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There are many causes of moral degradation, including poor parenting, influence of media, family breakdowns and influence of neoliberalism ideology. Approximately half of the US population thinks that the morality of the society is poor.

Lack of consideration for others, sense of entitlement and rampart narcissism also contribute to moral degradation. Family breakdowns contribute to moral degradation because they cause children to lose both self-respect and respect for others.

Media contributes to moral degradation because it presents uncensored messages and images to the public. Most of neoliberl MSM broadcast violence, crime and obscenity to raise the revenue.

Moral degradation is also revealed by dishonesty among business and government leaders and a the complete lack of accountability of the elite.  Most people are disgusted at  the perceived greed of the top 1 percent.

In evolutionary terms, "moral degradation" is simply proliferation of antisocial behavior.  This would be the opposite of "prosocial" behavior, which many researchers have proposed is an evolved trait that has helped us survive as a species since we started walking upright. 

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As to the factors that have contributed most to moral degradation, I suspect the following have been the most influential:

  1. The elevation of greed, acquisitiveness, selfishness, indifference and exploitation that is so feverishly celebrated in market capitalism.
  2. Institutions that enforce dogmatic, tribalistic groupthink to maintain their own power.
  3. Self-absorbed individualism (atomism) that does not appreciate the social context in which it exists (and without which it wouldn't exist at all).
  4. The persisting confusion and ignorance about the relationship (or lack thereof) between highly destructive and disingenuous "religiosity," and highly constructive authentic spirituality.
  5. Affluence that has not been earned, has no awareness of the negative externalities that have sustained it, and sidesteps moral accountability because of its position of privilege in society.
  6. Resource scarcity without any hope of changing the situation.  

    Larry CrawfordElectromechanical field.

     

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    Larry Crawford

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    The standard for the measurement of moral degradation for individuals is the same for societies, just on a larger scale. For individuals it is called morals, and for societies it is called ethics.

    Ethics is where multiple individuals with multiple senses of what is moral disagree, interface, and do agree.

    Ethics deemed to be important enough, and are allegedly agreed upon enough, are legislated and we have laws for. Laws are written and enforced by government.

    There are also many ethical topics that are not legislated, and people have to tolerate others when there is a difference between individuals sense of morality, and no law is being broken.

    Moral degradation is corruption. Ethical corruption at the societal level is expressed as unjust legislation. Moral corruption at the individual level is expressed as breaking the just laws, with the exception of breaking an unjust law.

    The paradox is when the entity that writes and enforces the law becomes corrupt.

    The intended solution to this paradox is citizen participation by voting and communicating with elected officials.

    One measure of moral degradation is when only approximately half of the population that could vote does vote.

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    Marcos Sheldon Padilla, people? they aight.

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    Thank you for the A2A. T Collins Logan gives a more thoughtful answer than I can conjure up today, but I'll add to it. As commonly used, it usually simply means change, in a manner that the speaker does not approve of. And it doesn't usually refer to actual morals, it refers to behavior, with underlying unstated assumptions that often may themselves be immoral. Breastfeeding, say. Objecting to that has some puritanical (not bad in itself) underpinnings that says "breasts are naughty" (a dehumanizing statement) and so "babies should not be fed that way" (an unhealthy, very fucked-up thought). It's hard for me to think of a less immoral act - yet we have had a breakdown in our morality that has turned that immoral.

    So, in a sense, I say that it is immorality couched in morality - that we can benefit from the misfortune of others as long as we don't "want" the misfortune of others directly. Which... is our economic system. When you have a system that insists very strongly on treating people a certain way, they will conform and act that certain way. So if we are objects (not people), without basic human rights (to eat, to be healthy), naturally subject to exploitation (capitalism), then we ACT that way. One is something of an outcast if one promotes the opposite, and one has a harder life. It is a harder life to be openly gay - yet, one is acting quite naturally. Why? Ultimately I think because it makes people think of S-E-X, which is dirty because passion is dirty because it's an emotion. And, that our bodies are dirty because they get involved in passion. And we dig deeper, and we find it's because people want to "own" others, most prominently men wanting to own women, moreso, own their passion - almost a form of slavery. What does this have to do with being gay? Nothing. But you can see that the roots run very deep, and "moral degradation" comes when we don't consider the roots of things, and so way on the top - we are disrespecting the right of people to be human, to have privacy, to love for crissakes. It's easy to say "it's wrong because of x, y, z" but it wrongER to disrespect those other rights.

    Someone can starve, because I have the right to earn my money. A mother can't breastfeed her baby, because sex is uncontrollable. And... I can rob and steal, because in our world, people are trying to rob and steal every day (using those terms to include more than the materialistic). As you can see, this is using lesser morals to disregard higher morals. That's where the degradation comes. Morality and ethics, ultimately, involves being able to balance and evaluate and do the "righter" thing - not just find the one truism that happens to fit your own selfishness.


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[Jun 12, 2021] Fifteen percent of Americans agree that the government, media and financial worlds are controlled by pedophiles

Jun 06, 2021 | www.wsj.com

The problem with conspiracy theories (CIA invented term to whitewash CIA participation in killing of JFK) that some of them in ten to twenty years no longer viewed as conspiracies. They enter mainstream.

An online poll this week from Ipsos reported 15% of Americans agree that the government, media and financial worlds are controlled by Satan-worshiping pedophiles. Not 15% of Republicans or conservatives, but of Americans. That's a lot.

... ... ...

America is a lonely place. When you hold to a conspiracy theory, you join a community. You're suddenly part of something. You have new friends you can talk to on the internet ...

... One of the enduring and revealing songs of America asks "Which side are you on / Which side are you on? / You go to Harlan County / There is no neutral there / You'll either be a union man / Or a thug for J.H. Blair."

... ... ...

Conspiracy believers don't believe what the mainstream media tell them. Why would they? Newsrooms are undergoing their own revolution, with woke progressives vs. journalistic traditionalists, advocacy versus old-school news values. It is ideological. "We are here to shape and encourage a new reality." "No, we are here to find and report the news." It is generational: The young have the upper hand and the Slack channel. The woke are winning.

...

When you think your country has grown completely bizarre...Think of what normal human beings have been asked to absorb the past year. The whole country was shut down and everyone was told to stay in the house. They closed the churches, and the churches agreed. There was no school and everyone made believe""really, we all made believe!""screens were a replacement. A bunch of 13-year-old girls in the junior high decided they were boys and started getting shots, and no adults helped them by saying, "Whoa, slow down, this is a major life decision and you're a kid." The school board no longer argues about transgender bathrooms, they're on to transgender boys wanting to play on the girls team. Big corporations now tell you what you should think about local questions, and if this offends you, they don't care. There were riots and protests last summer and local government seemed overwhelmed.

[Jun 07, 2021] Fifteen percent of Americans agree that the government, media and financial worlds are controlled by pedophiles

Jun 06, 2021 | www.wsj.com

The problem with conspiracy theories (CIA invented term to whitewash CIA participation in killing of JFK) that some of them in ten to twenty years no longer viewed as conspiracies. They enter mainstream.

An online poll this week from Ipsos reported 15% of Americans agree that the government, media and financial worlds are controlled by Satan-worshiping pedophiles. Not 15% of Republicans or conservatives, but of Americans. That's a lot.

... ... ...

America is a lonely place. When you hold to a conspiracy theory, you join a community. You're suddenly part of something. You have new friends you can talk to on the internet ...

... One of the enduring and revealing songs of America asks "Which side are you on / Which side are you on? / You go to Harlan County / There is no neutral there / You'll either be a union man / Or a thug for J.H. Blair."

... ... ...

Conspiracy believers don't believe what the mainstream media tell them. Why would they? Newsrooms are undergoing their own revolution, with woke progressives vs. journalistic traditionalists, advocacy versus old-school news values. It is ideological. "We are here to shape and encourage a new reality." "No, we are here to find and report the news." It is generational: The young have the upper hand and the Slack channel. The woke are winning.

...

When you think your country has grown completely bizarre...Think of what normal human beings have been asked to absorb the past year. The whole country was shut down and everyone was told to stay in the house. They closed the churches, and the churches agreed. There was no school and everyone made believe""really, we all made believe!""screens were a replacement. A bunch of 13-year-old girls in the junior high decided they were boys and started getting shots, and no adults helped them by saying, "Whoa, slow down, this is a major life decision and you're a kid." The school board no longer argues about transgender bathrooms, they're on to transgender boys wanting to play on the girls team. Big corporations now tell you what you should think about local questions, and if this offends you, they don't care. There were riots and protests last summer and local government seemed overwhelmed.

[Jun 06, 2021] The Cover-Up Continues- The Truth About Bill Gates, Microsoft, and Jeffrey Epstein by Whitney Webb

Notable quotes:
"... Vanity Fair ..."
"... After Epstein's 2019 arrest, it emerged that Epstein had "directed" Bill Gates to donate $2 million to the MIT lab in 2014. Epstein also allegedly secured a $5 million donation from Leon Black for the lab. Ito was forced to resign his post as the lab's director shortly after Epstein's 2019 arrest. ..."
"... Epstein appears to have become involved with Brockman as early as 1995, when he helped to finance and rescue a struggling book project that was managed by Brockman. ..."
"... According to former Israeli intelligence operative Ari Ben-Menashe, Bill Clinton had been the main focus of Epstein's sexual blackmail operation in the 1990s, a claim supported by Epstein victim testimony and Epstein's intimate involvement with individuals who were close to the former president at the time. ..."
"... Despite tensions arising from the Clinton administration's pursuit of Microsoft's monopoly in the late 1990s, the Gates and Clinton relationship had thawed by April 2000, when Gates attended the White House " Conference on the New Economy ." Attendees besides Gates included close Epstein associate Lynn Forester (now Lady de Rothschild) and then secretary of the treasury Larry Summers, who has also come under fire for his Epstein ties. ..."
"... Huffington Post ..."
"... Huffington Post ..."
"... Black was deeply tied to Epstein, even having Epstein manage his personal "philanthropic" foundation for several years, even after Epstein's first arrest. ..."
"... Indeed, 2013 was also the year that the Gates mansion systems engineer, Rick Allen Jones, began to be investigated by Seattle police for his child porn and child rape collection, which contained over six thousand images and videos. Despite the gravity of his crime, when Jones was arrested at the Gates mansion a year later, he was not jailed after his arrest but was merely ordered "to stay away from children," according to local media reports. From Melinda's perspective, this scandal, combined with Bill Gates's growing association with convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein may have posed a threat to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation's reputation, well before Epstein's 2019 arrest. ..."
"... Evening Standard ..."
"... The likely reason for the continued cover-up of the true extent of Epstein's ties to Gates has much more to do with Gates's company Microsoft than with Bill Gates himself. While it is now permissible to report on ties that discredit Gates's personal reputation, the information that could tie his relationship with Epstein and the Maxwells to Microsoft has been omitted. ..."
"... If, as the Evening Standard ..."
"... This is hardly an isolated incident, as similar efforts have been made to cover up (or memory hole) the ties of Epstein and the Maxwells to other prominent Silicon Valley empires, such as those led by Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk . One key reason for this is that the Epstein network's blackmail operation involved not only sexual blackmail but electronic forms of blackmail ..."
"... That Isabel and Christine Maxwell were able to forge close business ties with Microsoft after having been part of the front company that played a central role in PROMIS-related espionage and after explicitly managing their subsequent companies with the admitted intention to "rebuild" their spy father's work and legacy, strongly points to the probability of at least some Microsoft products having been compromised in some fashion, likely through alliances with Maxwell-run tech companies. The lack of mainstream media concern over the documented ties of the Epstein network to other top Microsoft executives of the past, such as Nathan Myhrvold, Linda Stone, and Steven Sinofsky, makes it clear that, while it may be open season on the relationship between Bill Gates and Epstein, such is not the case for Microsoft and Epstein. ..."
"... The ties of Epstein and the Maxwells to Silicon Valley, not just to Microsoft, are part of a broader attempt to cover up the strong intelligence component in the origin of Silicon Valley's most powerful companies. Much effort has been invested in creating a public perception that these companies are strictly private entities despite their deep, long-standing ties to the intelligence agencies and militaries of the United States and Israel . The true breadth of the Epstein scandal will never be covered by mainstream media because so many news outlets are owned by these same Silicon Valley oligarchs or depend on Silicon Valley for online reader engagement. ..."
"... Perhaps the biggest reason why the military/intelligence origins and links to the current Silicon Valley oligarchy will never be honestly examined, however, is that those very entities are now working with breakneck speed to usher in the Fourth Industrial Revolution, which would make artificial intelligence, automation, mass electronic surveillance, and transhumanism central to human society. One of the architects of this "revolution," Klaus Schwab, said earlier this year that rebuilding and maintaining trust with the public was critical to that project. However, were the true nature of Silicon Valley, including its significant ties to serial child rapist and sex trafficker Jeffery Epstein and his network, to emerge, the public's trust would be significantly eroded, thus threatening what the global oligarchy views as a project critical to its survival ..."
"... What a menace these philanthropic organizations are to the ordinary and lowly. These billionaire creeps never stop plotting and figuring out even more ways to stomp on people and push their creepy agendas, which remain forever hidden. ..."
Jun 06, 2021 | www.unz.com

It further appears that Bill Gates, then head of Microsoft, made a personal investment in CommTouch at the behest of Isabel Maxwell. In an October 2000 article published in the Guardian , Isabel "jokes about persuading Bill Gates to make a personal investment" in CommTouch sometime during this period.

The Guardian article then oddly notes, regarding Isabel Maxwell and Bill Gates:

"In a faux southern belle accent, [Isabel] purrs: 'He's got to spend $375m a year to keep his tax-free status, why not allow me to help him.' She explodes with laughter."

Given that individuals as wealthy as Gates cannot have "tax-free status" and that this article was published soon after the creation of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Isabel's statements suggest that it was the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation Trust, which manages the foundation's endowment assets, that made this sizable investment in CommTouch.

Furthermore, it is worth highlighting the odd way in which Isabel describes her dealings with Gates ("purring," speaking in a fake Southern accent), describing her interactions with him in a way not found in any of her numerous other interviews on a wide variety of topics. This odd behavior may be related to Isabel's previous interactions with Gates and/or the mysterious relationship between Gates and Epstein during this time.

Isabel Maxwell as CommTouch President

After 2000, CommTouch's business and clout expanded rapidly, with Isabel Maxwell subsequently crediting investments from Microsoft, led by Gates, and Paul Allen for the company's good fortune and the success of its effort to enter the US market. Maxwell, as quoted in the 2002 book Fastalliances , states that Microsoft viewed CommTouch as a key "distribution network," adding that "Microsoft's investment in us put us on the map. It gave us instant credibility, validated our technology and service in the marketplace." By this time, Microsoft's ties to CommTouch had deepened with new partnerships, including CommTouch's hosting of Microsoft Exchange .

Though Isabel Maxwell was able to secure lucrative investments and alliances for CommTouch and saw its products integrated into key software and hardware components produced and sold by Microsoft and other tech giants, she was unable to improve the company's dire financial situation, with CommTouch netting a loss of $4.4 million in 1998 and similar losses well into the 2000s, with net losses totalling $24 million in 2000 (just one year after the sizable investments from Microsoft, Paul Allen and Gates). The losses continued even after Isabel formally left the company and became president emeritus in 2001. By 2006, the company was over $170 million in debt. Isabel Maxwell left her position at CommTouch in 2001 but for years retained a sizable amount of CommTouch stock valued at the time at around $9.5 million . Today, Isabel Maxwell is, among other things, a " technology pioneer " of the World Economic Forum.

Epstein, Edge, and Nathan Myhrvold

Another indication of a relationship between Epstein and Gates prior to 2001 is Epstein's cozy ties with Nathan Myhrvold, who joined Microsoft in the 1980s and became the company's first chief technology officer in 1996. At the time, Myhrvold was one of Gates's closest advisers, if not the closest, and cowrote Gates's 1996 book, The Road Ahead , which sought to explain how emerging technologies would impact life in the years and decades to come.

In December of the same year that he became Microsoft's CTO, Myhrvold traveled on Epstein's plane from Kentucky to New Jersey, and then again in January 1997 from New Jersey to Florida. Other passengers accompanying Myhrvold on these flights included Alan Dershowitz and "GM," presumably Ghislaine Maxwell. It is worth keeping in mind that this is the same period when Gates had a documented relationship with Ghislaine's sister Isabel.

In addition, in the 1990s, Myhrvold traveled with Epstein in Russia alongside Esther Dyson , a digital technology consultant who has been called "the most influential woman in all the computer world." She currently has close ties to Google as well as the DNA testing company 23andme and is a member of and agenda contributor to the World Economic Forum. Dyson later stated that the meeting with Epstein had been planned by Myhrvold. The meeting appears to have taken place in 1998, based on information posted on Dyson's social media accounts. One photo features Dyson and Epstein, with a time stamp indicating April 28, 1998, posing with Pavel Oleynikov, who appears to have been an employee of the Russian Federal Nuclear Center. In that photo, they are standing in front of the house of the late Andrei Sakharov, the Soviet nuclear scientist and dissident, who is alleged to have had ties to US intelligence. Sakharov and his wife, Yelena Bonner, were supporters of Zionist causes .

The photos were taken in Sarov, where the Russian Federal Nuclear Center is based. That same day, another photo was taken that shows Epstein inside a classroom full of teens, apparently also in Sarov, given the time stamp.

Another Dyson image , one without a visible time stamp but with a caption stating the photo was taken "at Microsoft Russia in Moscow" in April 1998, shows Nathan Myhrvold. Dyson's caption further states, "This was the beginning of a three-week trip during which Nathan and a variety of hangers-on (including a bodyguard) explored the state of post-Soviet science." Epstein appears to be one of the "hangers-on," given the photographs, dates, and the described purpose of the trip.

Myhrvold and Epstein apparently had more in common than an interest in Russian scientific advances. When Myhrvold left Microsoft to cofound Intellectual Ventures, Vanity Fair reported that he had received Epstein at the firm's office with "young girls" in tow who appeared to be "Russian models." A source close to Myhrvold and cited by Vanity Fair claimed that Myhrvold spoke openly about borrowing Epstein's jet and staying at his homes in Florida and New York. Vanity Fair also noted that Myhrvold has been accused of having sex with minors provided by Epstein by none other than Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz, who stands accused of the same crime and who had previously flown with Myhrvold on Epstein's private plane.

In addition, a former colleague of Myhrvold's at Microsoft later developed her own ties to Epstein. Linda Stone , who joined Microsoft in 1993 and worked directly under Myhrvold, eventually became a Microsoft vice president. She introduced Epstein to Joi Ito of the MIT Media Lab after Epstein's first arrest. "He has a tainted past, but Linda assures me that he's awesome," Ito later said in an email to three MIT staffers. In Epstein's famous little black book, there are several phone numbers for Stone, and her emergency contact is listed as Kelly Bovino, a former model and alleged Epstein coconspirator. After Epstein's 2019 arrest, it emerged that Epstein had "directed" Bill Gates to donate $2 million to the MIT lab in 2014. Epstein also allegedly secured a $5 million donation from Leon Black for the lab. Ito was forced to resign his post as the lab's director shortly after Epstein's 2019 arrest.

Nathan Myhrvold , Linda Stone , Joi Ito, Esther Dyson , and Bill Gates were all members of the Edge Foundation community (edge.org website), alongside several other Silicon Valley icons. Edge, which is described as an exclusive organization of intellectuals " redefining who and what we are ," was created by John Brockman, a self-described "cultural impresario" and noted literary agent. Brockman is best known for his deep ties to the art world in the late 1960s, though lesser known are his various "management consulting" gigs for the Pentagon and White House during that same period. Edge, which the Guardian once called "the world's smartest website," is an exclusive online symposium affiliated with what Brockman calls "the Third Culture." Epstein appears to have become involved with Brockman as early as 1995, when he helped to finance and rescue a struggling book project that was managed by Brockman.

Edge, however, is more than just a website. For decades, it was also instrumental in bringing together tech executives, scientists who were often Brockman's clients, and Wall Street financiers through its Millionaires' Dinner, first held in 1985. In 1999, this event rebranded as the Billionaires' Dinner, and Epstein became intimately involved in these affairs and the Edge Foundation itself. Epstein was photographed attending several of the dinners as was Sarah Kellen, Ghislaine Maxwell's chief "assistant" and coconspirator in the Epstein/Maxwell-run sex trafficking and blackmail scheme.

Nathan Myhrvold, Microsoft and Jeffrey Epstein at the 2000 Edge Billionaires' Dinner Source: https://www.edge.org/igd/1200

From 2001 to 2017, Epstein funded $638,000 out of a total of $857,000 raised by Edge. During this period, there were several years when Epstein was Edge's only donor. Epstein stopped giving in 2015, which was incidentally the same year that Edge decided to discontinue its annual Billionaires' Dinner tradition. In addition, the only award Edge has ever given out, the $100,000 Edge of Computation prize, was awarded in 2005 to Quantum computing pioneer David Deutsch -- it was funded entirely by Epstein. A year before he began donating heavily to Edge, Epstein had created the Jeffrey Epstein VI Foundation to "fund and support cutting edge science around the world."

Since the Epstein scandal, regular attendees of the Billionaires' Dinner, sometimes called the Edge annual dinner, have referred to the event as an "influence operation." If one follows the money, it appears it was an influence operation largely benefitting one man, Jeffrey Epstein, and his network. The evidence points toward Myhrvold and Gates as being very much a part of that network, even before Epstein's involvement in Edge increased significantly.

A Tale of Two Bills

It is worth exploring the ties between the "philanthropic" endeavors of Bill Gates and Bill Clinton in the early 2000s, particularly given Epstein's and Ghislaine Maxwell's ties to the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton Global Initiative during that period. According to former Israeli intelligence operative Ari Ben-Menashe, Bill Clinton had been the main focus of Epstein's sexual blackmail operation in the 1990s, a claim supported by Epstein victim testimony and Epstein's intimate involvement with individuals who were close to the former president at the time.

Bill Gates at the White House Conference on the New Economy in 2000, Source: LA Times

Despite tensions arising from the Clinton administration's pursuit of Microsoft's monopoly in the late 1990s, the Gates and Clinton relationship had thawed by April 2000, when Gates attended the White House " Conference on the New Economy ." Attendees besides Gates included close Epstein associate Lynn Forester (now Lady de Rothschild) and then secretary of the treasury Larry Summers, who has also come under fire for his Epstein ties. Another attendee was White House chief of staff Thomas "Mack" McLarty, whose special assistant Mark Middleton met with Epstein at least three times at the Clinton White House. Middleton was fired after press reports surfaced detailing his ties to illegal donations linked to foreign governments that had been made to Clinton's 1996 re-election campaign. Another participant in the conference was Janet Yellen, Biden's current Secretary of the Treasury.

Gates spoke at a conference panel entitled "Closing the Global Divide: Health, Education and Technology." He discussed how the mapping of the human genome would result in a new era of technological breakthroughs and discussed the need to offer internet access to everyone to close the digital divide and allow the "new" internet-based economy to take shape. At the time, Gates was backing a company , along with American Telecom billionaire Craig McCaw, that hoped to establish a global internet service provider monopoly through a network of low-orbit satellites. That company, Teledesic, shut down between 2002 and 2003 and is credited as being the inspiration for Elon Musk's Starlink.

Bill Clinton and Bill Gates entered the world of philanthropy around the same time, with the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation launching in 2000 and the Clinton Foundation, in 2001. Not only that but Wired described the two foundations as being "at the forefront of a new era in philanthropy, in which decisions -- often referred to as investments -- are made with the strategic precision demanded of business and government, then painstakingly tracked to gauge their success."

Other media outlets, however, such as the Huffington Post , challenged that these foundations engaged in "philanthropy" and asserted that calling them such was causing "the rapid deconstruction of the accepted term." The Huffington Post further noted that the Clinton Global Initiative (part of the Clinton Foundation), the Gates Foundation, and a few similar organizations "all point in the direction of blurring the boundaries between philanthropy, business and non-profits." It noted that this model for "philanthropy" has been promoted by the World Economic Forum and the Milken Institute. It is also worth noting that several of Epstein's own "philanthropic" vehicles were also created just as this new era in philanthropy was beginning.

The Milken Institute was founded by Michael Milken , the notorious Wall Street "junk bond king," who was indicted on 98 counts of racketeering and securities fraud in 1989. He served little prison time and was ultimately pardoned by Donald Trump. Milken committed his crimes while working alongside Leon Black and Ron Perelman at Drexel Burnham Lambert before its scandalous collapse. Black was deeply tied to Epstein, even having Epstein manage his personal "philanthropic" foundation for several years, even after Epstein's first arrest. Perelman was a major Clinton donor whose 1995 fundraiser for the then president was attended by Epstein and whose companies offered jobs to Webster Hubbell and Monica Lewinsky after their respective scandals in the Clinton administration. Like Gates, Milken has transformed his reputation for ruthlessness in the corporate world into one of a "prominent philanthropist." Much of his "philanthropy" benefits the Israeli military and illegal Israeli settlements in occupied Palestine.

Years after creating their foundations, Gates and Clinton discussed how they have "long bonded over their shared mission" of normalizing this new model of philanthropy. Gates spoke to Wired in 2013 about "their forays into developing regions" and "cites the close partnerships between their organizations." In that interview, Gates revealed that he had met Clinton before he had become president, stating, "I knew him before he was president, I knew him when he was president, and I know him now that he's not president."

Also in that interview, Clinton stated that after he left the White House he sought to focus on two specific things. The first is the Clinton Health Access Initiative (CHAI), which he stated exists "thanks largely to funding from the Gates Foundation," and the second is the Clinton Global Initiative (CGI), "where I try to build a global network of people to do their own thing."

The Clinton Health Access Initiative first received an $11 million donation from the Gates Foundation in 2009. Over the last twelve years, the Gates Foundation has donated more than $497 million to CHAI. CHAI was initially founded in 2002 with the mission of tackling HIV/AIDS globally through "strong government relationships" and addressing "market inefficiencies." The Gates Foundation's significant donations, however, began not long after CHAI's expansion into malaria diagnostics and treatments. Notably, in 2011, Tachi Yamada, the former president of the Gates Foundation's Global Health program, joined CHAI's board alongside Chelsea Clinton.

Bill Gates and Bill Clinton at the annual Clinton Global Initiative in 2010

Regarding the CGI, Epstein's defense lawyers argued in court in 2007 that Epstein had been "part of the original group that conceived of the Clinton Global Initiative," which was first launched in 2005. Epstein's lawyers described the CGI as a project "bringing together a community of global leaders to devise and implement innovative solutions to some of the world's most pressing challenges." The Gates Foundation gave the CGI a total of $2.5 million between 2012 and 2013 in addition to its massive donations to the CHAI and an additional $35 million to the Clinton Foundation itself. In addition to the Gates Foundation donations, Gates's Microsoft has been intimately involved in other "philanthropic" projects backed by Clinton.

In addition to these ties, Hillary Clinton established a partnership between the Clinton Foundation and the Gates Foundation in 2014 as part of the Clintons' No Ceilings initiative. That partnership sought to "gather and analyze data about the status of women and girls' participation around the world" and involved the two foundations working "with leading technology partners to collect these data and compile them." Months before the partnership was announced, Gates and Epstein met for dinner and discussed the Gates Foundation and philanthropy, according to the New York Times . During Hillary Clinton's unsuccessful run for president in 2016, both Bill and Melinda Gates were on her short list as potential options for vice president.

In addition, Epstein attempted to become involved in the Gates Foundation directly, as seen by his efforts to convince the Gates Foundation to partner with JP Morgan on a multibillion-dollar "global health charitable fund" that would have resulted in hefty fees paid out to Epstein, who was very involved with JP Morgan at the time. Though that fund never materialized, Epstein and Gates did discuss Epstein becoming involved in Gates's philanthropic efforts. Some of these contacts were not reported by the mainstream press until after the Bill and Melinda Gates divorce announcement. Yet, as mentioned, it was known that Epstein had "directed" Gates to donate to at least one organization -- $2 million in 2014 to the MIT Media Lab.

Recent revelations about Gates and Epstein meetings that took place between 2013 and 2014 have further underscored the importance Epstein apparently held in the world of billionaire "philanthropy," with Gates reportedly claiming that Epstein was his "ticket" to winning a Nobel Prize. Norwegian media, however, reported in October 2020 that Gates and Epstein had met the Nobel Committee chair, which failed to make a splash in international media at the time. It is worth asking if Epstein managed to arrange such meetings with other individuals who also coveted Nobel Prizes and if any such individuals later received those prizes. If Epstein had such connections, it is unlikely that he would use them only once in the case of Bill Gates, given the vastness of his network, particularly in the tech and science worlds.

The year 2013 is also when Bill and Melinda Gates together met with Epstein at his New York residence, after which Melinda allegedly began asking her soon-to-be ex-husband to distance himself from Epstein. While the stated reason for this, in the wake of the Gateses' divorce announcement, was that Melinda was put off by Epstein's past and his persona, it could potentially be related to other concerns about Melinda's reputation and that of the foundation that shares her name.

Indeed, 2013 was also the year that the Gates mansion systems engineer, Rick Allen Jones, began to be investigated by Seattle police for his child porn and child rape collection, which contained over six thousand images and videos. Despite the gravity of his crime, when Jones was arrested at the Gates mansion a year later, he was not jailed after his arrest but was merely ordered "to stay away from children," according to local media reports. From Melinda's perspective, this scandal, combined with Bill Gates's growing association with convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein may have posed a threat to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation's reputation, well before Epstein's 2019 arrest.

2013 was also the year that the Maxwells become involved in the Clinton Foundation. That year, Ghislaine Maxwell's TerraMar Project, which officially supported UN Sustainable Development Goals as they relate the world's oceans, made a $1.25 million commitment to the Clinton Global Initiative as part of an effort to form a Sustainable Oceans Alliance. TerraMar shut down shortly after Epstein's 2019 arrest.

Isabel Maxwell and Al Seckel at the World Economic Forum's 2011 Annual Meeting

Notably, Ghislaine's TerraMar Project was in many ways the successor to Isabel Maxwell's failed Blue World Alliance, which was also ostensibly focused on the world's oceans. Blue World Alliance was set up by Isabel and her now deceased husband Al Seckel, who had hosted a "scientific conference" on Epstein's island. The Blue World Alliance also went under the name Globalsolver Foundation, and Xavier Malina, Christine Maxwell's son, was listed as Globalsolver's liaison to the Clinton Foundation. He was previously an intern at the Clinton Global Initiative.

Malina later work ed in the Obama administration at the Office of White House Personnel. He now works for Google. It is also worth noting that during this same period, Isabel Maxwell's son, Alexander Djerassi , was chief of staff at the Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs in the Hillary Clinton–run State Department.

Gates Science and Epstein Science

While the Gates Foundation and the Clinton Foundation intermingled, and the latter had ties to Epstein and Maxwell, it also appears that Epstein had significant influence over two of the most prominent science advisers to Bill Gates over the last fifteen years -- Melanie Walker and Boris Nikolic.

A screenshot from a 2019 presentation Melanie Walker gave for Rockefeller Foundation, where she is a fellow. Source: YouTube

Melanie Walker , now a celebrated neurosurgeon, met Jeffrey Epstein in 1992 soon after she graduated from college, when he offered her a Victoria's Secret modelling job. Such offers were often made by Epstein and his accomplices when recruiting women into his operation and it is unclear if Walker ever actually worked as a model for the Leslie Wexner-owned company. She then stayed at a New York apartment building associated with Epstein's trafficking operations during visits to New York, but it is unclear how long she stayed there or at other Epstein-owned properties. After she graduated from medical school in 1998, she became Epstein's science adviser for at least a year. By 1999, she had grown so close to Prince Andrew that she attended a Windsor Castle birthday celebration hosted by the Queen along with Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. During this period, Melanie appears on Epstein's flight logs under her birth name , Melanie Starnes , though it looks like "Starves" on the flight logs.

The close relationship between Prince Andrew and Melanie Walker came under scrutiny after Epstein's former housekeeper at the Zorro Ranch property, Deidre Stratton, stated in an interview that Prince Andrew had been "given" a "beautiful young neurosurgeon" while he stayed at Epstein's New Mexico property. Given that only one neurosurgeon was both close to Prince Andrew and a part of Epstein's entourage at the time, it seems highly likely that this woman "gifted" to Andrew was Melanie Walker. According to Stratton, Andrew "kept company" with this woman for three days. The arrangement was set up by Epstein, who was not at the property at the time. The exact timing of the stay is uncertain, but it likely took place between 1999 and 2001.

Stratton said the following about the stay:

"At the time, Jeffrey had this, she supposedly was a neurosurgeon, quite young, beautiful, young and brilliant, and she stayed in the home with him At one point we had all these different teas and you could pick the teas that you wanted and she asked me to find one that would make Andrew more horny.

I'm guessing she understood her job was to entertain him because I guess, the fear, I don't know; the fear would be that Andrew would say, "No I didn't really find her that attractive." . . . He would tell Jeffrey that and then she would be on the ropes.

I'm guessing that, another theory is, that Jeffrey probably had her on retainer and she knew what her job would be, should be, to make these people happy. . . . Sex was all they thought about. I mean, I know for sure that Jeffrey would ideally like three massages a day."

Sometime later, Walker moved to Seattle and began living with then Microsoft executive Steven Sinofsky, who now serves as a board partner at the venture capital firm Andreesen Horowitz. Andreesen Horowitz notably backs Carbyne911, the Israel intelligence-linked precrime start-up funded by Epstein and his close associate, former prime minister of Israel Ehud Barak, as well as another Israeli intelligence-linked tech company led by Barak, called Toka . Toka recently won contracts with the governments of Moldova, Nigeria, and Ghana through the World Bank, where Melanie Walker is currently a director and a former special adviser to its president. It is unclear when, how and under what circumstances Walker met Sinofsky.

After moving to Seattle to be with Sinofsky and after a brief stint as a "practitioner in the developing world" in China with the World Health Organization, Walker was hired as a senior program officer by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation in 2006. Given that the main feature of Walker's resume at the time was having been a science adviser to another wealthy "philanthropist," Jeffrey Epstein, her hire by the Gates Foundation for this critical role further underscores how Bill Gates, at the very least, not only knew who Epstein was but knew enough about his scientific interests and investments to want to hire Walker. Walker went on to become deputy director for Global Development as well as a deputy director of Special Initiatives at the foundation. According to the Rockefeller Foundation , where she is a fellow, Walker later advised Gates on issues pertaining to neurotechnology and brain science for Gates's secretive company bgC3 , which Gates originally registered as a think tank under the name Carillon Holdings. According to federal filings, bgC3's focus areas were "scientific and technological services," "industrial analysis and research," and "design and development of computer hardware and software."

During her time at the Gates Foundation, Walker introduced Boris Nikolic, Gates's science adviser, to Epstein. Today, Melanie Walker is the cochair of the World Economic Forum's Global Future Council on Neurotechnology and Brain Science, having previously been named a WEF Young Global Leader. She also advises the World Health Organization, which is closely linked to Bill Gates's "philanthropy."

At the WEF, Walker wrote an article in 2016 entitled " Healthcare in 2030: Goodbye Hospital, Hello Home-spital ," in which she discusses how wearable devices, brain-machine interfaces, and injectable/swallowable robotic "medicines" will be the norm by 2030. Years before COVID-19 and the Great Reset–inspired efforts to change health care in just this way, Walker wrote that while the dystopian scenario she was painting "sounds crazy . . . most of these technologies are either almost ready for prime time, or in development." Of course, a lot of those technologies took shape thanks to the patronage of her former bosses, Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Gates.

In the case of Boris Nikolic, after being introduced to Epstein through Walker, he attended a 2011 meeting with Gates and Epstein where he was photographed alongside James Staley, then a senior JP Morgan executive, and Larry Summers, former Secretary of the Treasury and a close Epstein associate. Nikolic was chief adviser for science and technology to Bill Gates at the time, advising both the Gates Foundation and bgC3. According to the mainstream narrative, this is supposed to be the first time that Gates and Epstein had ever met. In addition, this may have been when Epstein pitched the joint Gates Foundation–JP Morgan "global health charitable fund."

The 2011 meeting at Jeffrey Epstein's Manhattan mansion attended by James E. Staley, Larry Summers, Jeffery Epstein, Bill Gates and Boris Nikolic

In 2014, Nikolic " waxed enthusiastic " about Epstein's supposed penchant for financial advice ahead of a public offering for a gene-editing company that Nikolic had a $42 million stake in . Notably, both Nikolic and Epstein were clients of the same group of bankers at JP Morgan, with Bloomberg later reporting that Epstein regularly helped those bankers attract wealthy new clients.

In 2016, Nikolic cofounded Biomatics capital, which invests in health-related companies at "the convergence of genomics and digital data" that are "enabling the development of superior therapeutics, diagnostics and delivery models." Nikolic founded Biomatics with Julie Sunderland, formerly the director of the Gates Foundation's Strategic Investment Fund.

At least three of the companies backed by Biomatics -- Qihan Biotech , eGenesis , and Editas -- were cofounded by George Church, a Harvard geneticist with deep ties to Epstein and also closely associated with the Edge Foundation. Biomatics investment in Qihan Biotech is no longer listed on the Biomatics website. Church's Qihan Biotech seeks to produce human tissues and organs inside pigs for transplantation into humans, while eGenesis seeks to genetically modify pig organs for use in humans. Editas produces CRISPR gene-editing "medicines" and is also backed by the Gates Foundation as well as Google Ventures.

Church has been accused of promoting eugenics as well as unethical human experimentation . Epstein's significant interest in eugenics was made public after his death, and Bill Gates, as well as his father William H. Gates II, have also been linked to eugenics movements and ideas.

After Epstein's death in 2019, it was revealed that Nikolic had been named the "successor executor" of Epstein's estate, further suggesting close ties to Epstein despite Nikolic's claims to the contrary. After details of Epstein's will were made public, Nikolic did not sign a form indicating his willingness to be executor and did not ultimately serve in that role.

The Epstein Cover-Up Continues

Despite the relatively abrupt shift in the mainstream media regarding what is acceptable to discuss regarding the Jeffrey Epstein–Bill Gates relationship, many of these same media outlets refuse to acknowledge much of the information contained in this investigative report. This is particularly true in the case of the Evening Standard article and Bill Gates's odd relationship with Ghislaine Maxwell's sister Isabel and CommTouch, the company Isabel previously led.

The likely reason for the continued cover-up of the true extent of Epstein's ties to Gates has much more to do with Gates's company Microsoft than with Bill Gates himself. While it is now permissible to report on ties that discredit Gates's personal reputation, the information that could tie his relationship with Epstein and the Maxwells to Microsoft has been omitted.

If, as the Evening Standard reported, Epstein did make millions out of his business ties with Gates prior to 2001 and if Gates's ties to Isabel Maxwell and the Israeli espionage–linked company CommTouch were to become public knowledge, the result could easily be a scandal on a par with the PROMIS software affair. Such a disclosure could be very damaging for Microsoft and its partner the World Economic Forum , as Microsoft has become a key player in the WEF's Fourth Industrial Revolution initiatives that range from digital identity and vaccine passports to efforts to replace human workers with artificial intelligence.

There are clearly powerful actors with a vested interest in keeping the Epstein-Gates narrative squarely focused on 2011 and later -- not necessarily to protect Gates but more likely to protect the company itself and other top Microsoft executives who appear to have been compromised by Epstein and others in the same intelligence-linked network.

This is hardly an isolated incident, as similar efforts have been made to cover up (or memory hole) the ties of Epstein and the Maxwells to other prominent Silicon Valley empires, such as those led by Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk . One key reason for this is that the Epstein network's blackmail operation involved not only sexual blackmail but electronic forms of blackmail , something used to great effect by Robert Maxwell on behalf of Israeli intelligence as part of the PROMIS operation. Given its nature, electronic forms of blackmail through illegal surveillance or backdoored software can be used to compromise those in power with something to hide, but who were uninclined to engage in the exploitation of minors, such as those abused by Epstein.

That Isabel and Christine Maxwell were able to forge close business ties with Microsoft after having been part of the front company that played a central role in PROMIS-related espionage and after explicitly managing their subsequent companies with the admitted intention to "rebuild" their spy father's work and legacy, strongly points to the probability of at least some Microsoft products having been compromised in some fashion, likely through alliances with Maxwell-run tech companies. The lack of mainstream media concern over the documented ties of the Epstein network to other top Microsoft executives of the past, such as Nathan Myhrvold, Linda Stone, and Steven Sinofsky, makes it clear that, while it may be open season on the relationship between Bill Gates and Epstein, such is not the case for Microsoft and Epstein.

The ties of Epstein and the Maxwells to Silicon Valley, not just to Microsoft, are part of a broader attempt to cover up the strong intelligence component in the origin of Silicon Valley's most powerful companies. Much effort has been invested in creating a public perception that these companies are strictly private entities despite their deep, long-standing ties to the intelligence agencies and militaries of the United States and Israel . The true breadth of the Epstein scandal will never be covered by mainstream media because so many news outlets are owned by these same Silicon Valley oligarchs or depend on Silicon Valley for online reader engagement.

Perhaps the biggest reason why the military/intelligence origins and links to the current Silicon Valley oligarchy will never be honestly examined, however, is that those very entities are now working with breakneck speed to usher in the Fourth Industrial Revolution, which would make artificial intelligence, automation, mass electronic surveillance, and transhumanism central to human society. One of the architects of this "revolution," Klaus Schwab, said earlier this year that rebuilding and maintaining trust with the public was critical to that project. However, were the true nature of Silicon Valley, including its significant ties to serial child rapist and sex trafficker Jeffery Epstein and his network, to emerge, the public's trust would be significantly eroded, thus threatening what the global oligarchy views as a project critical to its survival .

kapoore , says: June 6, 2021 at 2:48 am GMT • 1.3 hours ago

I'm always impressed with the vigorous detail and documentation in your articles. What a menace these philanthropic organizations are to the ordinary and lowly. These billionaire creeps never stop plotting and figuring out even more ways to stomp on people and push their creepy agendas, which remain forever hidden.

[May 28, 2021] Epstein Prison Guards Admit Falsifying Logs, Get Plea Deal To Avoid Jail Time by Thomas Lifson

Notable quotes:
"... The two prison guards who allowed Jeffrey Epstein to die with nobody checking up on his safety (despite having been on suicide watch), are getting a slap on their wrists: 100 hours of community service and 6 months of pretrial supervision . This seems a very light penalty considering that they falsified documents attesting to their carrying out the duties that they neglected, and the profound consequences of their perjurious neglect of duty. Public confidence in the integrity of the Bureau of Prisons and the entire justice system has been tanked. ..."
"... But are the prosecutors in the Southern District of New York really interested in finding out if someone took advantage of (and possibly encouraged) the guards' negligence to assassinate Epstein, as so many believe? ..."
"... And that sort of self-protective instinct among federal employees, avoiding embarrassment, could extend to letting sleeping dogs lie when it comes to getting to the bottom of Epstein's activities with the rich, powerful, and famous. ..."
"... A few years ago, I would have been mildly hopeful that the two guards would spill the beans to prosecutors if Epstein didn't kill himself and there was some sort of conspiracy that disabled security cameras and kept the guards away as an assassin killed him. But after witnessing the behavior of the DOJ during the Trump presidency and after, In have no faith whatsoever in the integrity of its prosecution decisions. ..."
May 22, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Thomas Lifson via AmericanThinker.com,

If there was a conspiracy to assassinate a man who knew compromising information about the power elite, two of the lowest level conspirators are getting away with no jail time.

The two prison guards who allowed Jeffrey Epstein to die with nobody checking up on his safety (despite having been on suicide watch), are getting a slap on their wrists: 100 hours of community service and 6 months of pretrial supervision . This seems a very light penalty considering that they falsified documents attesting to their carrying out the duties that they neglected, and the profound consequences of their perjurious neglect of duty. Public confidence in the integrity of the Bureau of Prisons and the entire justice system has been tanked.

There is a faint ray of hope, however.

According to a letter submitted to court seeking approval of the arrangement, the two guards, Michael Thomas and Tova Noel, "will cooperate with a pending Department of Justice Office of Inspector General review by providing truthful information related to their employment by the Bureau of Prisons, including about the events and circumstances described in the Indictment."

Their cooperation will be enforced because the plea is a "deferred prosecution," meaning that if their cooperation is deemed inadequate, they can be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, likely meaning prison time. But are the prosecutors in the Southern District of New York really interested in finding out if someone took advantage of (and possibly encouraged) the guards' negligence to assassinate Epstein, as so many believe? We have been told that Epstein had extensive video surveillance of the activities of his guests and that his New York home was searched. Why has there been no sign of criminal prosecution of sex with underage girls, as has been almost universally assumed to be taking place at his mansion?

The guards may have benefited from consideration of their state of overwork due to short staffing at the Manhattan facility. One was on a second consecutive 8-hour shift while the other had worked mandatory overtime 5 days in a row. The prosecutors are not pushing a narrative that would embarrass their fellow Justice Department colleagues at the Federal Bureau of Prisons.

And that sort of self-protective instinct among federal employees, avoiding embarrassment, could extend to letting sleeping dogs lie when it comes to getting to the bottom of Epstein's activities with the rich, powerful, and famous.

A few years ago, I would have been mildly hopeful that the two guards would spill the beans to prosecutors if Epstein didn't kill himself and there was some sort of conspiracy that disabled security cameras and kept the guards away as an assassin killed him. But after witnessing the behavior of the DOJ during the Trump presidency and after, In have no faith whatsoever in the integrity of its prosecution decisions.

[May 09, 2021] L Affaire Joffrey Epstein

An interesting article from Daily Beast. Recommended reading.
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And now Esther Dyson comes into picture: "Myhrvold did, however, take a trip to Russia with tech journalist and conference host Esther Dyson sometime in the 1990s, and spent time with Epstein there. When reached by The Daily Beast, Dyson said that Epstein joined her and Myhrvold for a couple of days when their itineraries intersected in Sarov. The Microsoft executive had planned the meetup with the financier, she said."
Notable quotes:
"... Gates' friendship with Epstein "who for years was accused of molesting scores of underage girls" still haunts Melinda, according to friends of the couple who spoke to The Daily Beast this week in light of the pair's divorce announcement, which had been weeks in the making. ..."
May 09, 2021 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

"Melinda Gates Warned Bill About Jeffrey Epstein" [The Daily Beast].

Normally if I want to quote a gossip rag, I go for Page Six.

Nevertheless: "Melinda Gates met with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein alongside her husband, Bill, in New York City and soon after said she was furious at the relationship between the two men, according to people familiar with the situation.

The previously unreported meeting occurred at Epstein's Upper East Side mansion in September 2013, on the same day the couple accepted the Lasker-Bloomberg Public Service Award at The Pierre hotel and were photographed alongside then-Mayor Mike Bloomberg.

The meeting would prove a turning point for Gates' relationship with Epstein, the people familiar with the matter say, as Melinda told friends after the encounter how uncomfortable she was in the company of the wealthy sex offender and how she wanted nothing to do with him.

Gates' friendship with Epstein "who for years was accused of molesting scores of underage girls" still haunts Melinda, according to friends of the couple who spoke to The Daily Beast this week in light of the pair's divorce announcement, which had been weeks in the making.

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[May 09, 2021] Melinda Gates Was Meeting With Divorce Lawyers Since 2019 to End Marriage With Bill Gates

May 09, 2021 | www.wsj.com

The split between Bill and Melinda Gates, announced last week, has been in the works for a long time.

Ms. Gates consulted with divorce lawyers roughly two years before she filed for divorce from Mr. Gates, saying their marriage was "irretrievably broken," according to people familiar with the matter and documents reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

The 56-year-old philanthropist has been working with lawyers at several firms since at least 2019 to unwind the marriage of more than 25 years, according to these people and the documents.

Last Monday, the billionaire couple announced they were ending their marriage . In a joint statement posted on Twitter , they said, "we no longer believe we can grow together as a couple in this next phase of our lives."

The couple hasn't said what prompted the split. One source of concern for Ms. Gates was her husband's dealings with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, according to the people and a former employee of their charity, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Ms. Gates's concerns about the relationship dated as far back as 2013, the former employee said.

... ... ...

In early 2020, Mr. and Ms. Gates surprised many people when they said they wouldn't attend the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, an annual gathering of business and world leaders that the power couple had attended for years.

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A few months later, on March 13, Mr. Gates said he was resigning from the boards of Microsoft Corp. MSFT 1.09% and Berkshire Hathaway Inc. BRK.B 0.42% The Microsoft co-founder said he planned to focus more on his philanthropic efforts.

[May 08, 2021] 'Furious' Melinda Gates Warned Bill Over Jeffrey Epstein Escapades- Report - ZeroHedge

May 08, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Melinda Gates, whose 'people' are undoubtedly trying to distance her from Bill's controversies, was reportedly 'furious' after the couple had an uncomfortable 2013 meeting with Jeffrey Epstein - who by then was a convicted pedophile .

People 'familiar with the matter' tell the Daily Beast , the previously unreported meeting was held at Epstein's Upper East Side mansion in September, 2013, the same day the couple was awarded the Lasker-Bloomberg Public Service award at the Pierre Hotel , where they were photographed with then-Mayor Mike Bloomberg.

According to said 'people', the 2013 meeting would "prove a turning point for the Gates' relationship with Epstein,' with Melinda telling friends after the encounter how uncomfortable she was to be hanging around the wealthy sex offender.

According to the New York Times , Gates and Epstein met at least six times , including visits to Epstein's New York mansion on 'multiple occasions,' staying at least once into the night.

So - the Gates' had no problem traveling across the country to meet with the convicted pedophile - who named Gates adviser Boris Nikolic as a fallback executor in a will Epstein amended just days before his August 2019 death in a Manhattan jail cell.

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Gates hilariously claimed that he wasn't aware it was Epstein's plane!

In March 2013, Mr. Gates flew on Mr. Epstein's Gulfstream plane from Teterboro Airport in New Jersey to Palm Beach, Fla., according to a flight manifest. Ms. Arnold said Mr. Gates -- who has his own $40 million jet -- hadn't been aware it was Mr. Epstein's plane . - New York Times

Meanwhile, employees of the Gates foundation also visited Epstein's mansion on multiple occasions, while Epstein also "spoke with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and JPMorgan Chase about a proposed multibillion-dollar charitable fund -- an arrangement that had the potential to generate enormous fees for Mr. Epstein ," according to the Times .

In late 2011, at Mr. Gates's instruction, the foundation sent a team to Mr. Epstein's townhouse to have a preliminary talk about philanthropic fund-raising, according to three people who were there. Mr. Epstein told his guests that if they searched his name on the internet they might conclude he was a bad person but that what he had done -- soliciting prostitution from an underage girl -- was no worse than "stealing a bagel," two of the people said.

How Gates and Epstein met , according to the New York Times ;

Two members of Mr. Gates's inner circle -- Boris Nikolic and Melanie Walker -- were close to Mr. Epstein and at times functioned as intermediaries between the two men.

Ms. Walker met Mr. Epstein in 1992 , six months after graduating from the University of Texas. Mr. Epstein, who was an adviser to Mr. Wexner, the owner of Victoria's Secret, told Ms. Walker that he could land her an audition for a modeling job there , according to Ms. Walker. She later moved to New York and stayed in a Manhattan apartment building that Mr. Epstein owned. After she graduated from medical school, she said, Mr. Epstein hired her as a science adviser in 1998.

Ms. Walker later met Steven Sinofsky, a senior executive at Microsoft who became president of its Windows division, and moved to Seattle to be with him. In 2006, she joined the Gates Foundation with the title of senior program officer.

At the foundation, Ms. Walker met and befriended Mr. Nikolic , a native of what is now Croatia and a former fellow at Harvard Medical School who was the foundation's science adviser. Mr. Nikolic and Mr. Gates frequently traveled and socialized together.

Ms. Walker, who had remained in close touch with Mr. Epstein, introduced him to Mr. Nikolic, and the men became friendly.

Mr. Epstein and Mr. Gates first met face to face on the evening of Jan. 31, 2011 , at Mr. Epstein's townhouse on the Upper East Side. They were joined by Dr. Eva Andersson-Dubin , a former Miss Sweden whom Mr. Epstein had once dated, and her 15-year-old daughter. (Dr. Andersson-Dubin's husband, the hedge fund billionaire Glenn Dubin, was a friend and business associate of Mr. Epstein's. The Dubins declined to comment.)

The gathering started at 8 and lasted several hours, according to Ms. Arnold, Mr. Gates's spokeswoman. Mr. Epstein subsequently boasted about the meeting in emails to friends and associates. "Bill's great," he wrote in one, reviewed by The Times.

"I didn't go to New Mexico or Florida or Palm Beach or any of that," claims Gates. "There were people around him who were saying, hey, if you want to raise money for global health and get more philanthropy, he knows a lot of rich people."

And it looks like Gates was one of Epstein's "rich people." According to the report, Gates donated $2 million to MIT's Media Lab, which university officials described as having been "directed" by Epstein .

According to Arnold, Gates' spokeswoman, "Over time, Gates and his team realized Epstein's capabilities and ideas were not legitimate and all contact with Epstein was discontinued."

Perhaps 'Gates and his team' should have steered clear of the known pedophile in the first place?

[Apr 02, 2021] Biden's son Hunter, the "smartest guy" his father knows, has his feet firmly in his mouth in excerpts from an interview this Sunday

Apr 02, 2021 | www.moonofalabama.org

PJB , Apr 2 2021 21:50 utc | 107

Meanwhile Biden's son Hunter, the "smartest guy" his father knows, has his feet firmly in his mouth in excerpts from an interview this Sunday about his 💻 that was full of underage porn & business dealings involving his father when VPOTUS.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hunter-biden-laptop-certainly-could-be-mine

Will the media still try to bury this, or is it time to replace old Joe?

ZH does a good job tee Ukraine v Russia today:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/frightening-escalation-looms-russia-warns-nato-against-sending-any-troops-ukraine

[Mar 10, 2021] One in particular named Wexner, Victoria's Secret, and how after buying Abercrombie and Fitch he introduced "thongs for pre-teens" into their clothing line.

Mar 10, 2021 | www.unz.com

Zoom-Copter , says: March 9, 2021 at 1:20 pm GMT • 22.7 hours ago

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Epstein is also foreshadowed in the "Turner Diaries" in the person of "Kappy the Kike." On the subject of Dr. Pierce and his works, the jews and their canp followers deleted hundreds of hours of videos– first from YT then from every other video site– of Dr. Pierce's weekly broadcasts set to some very skillful video editing.
One in particular named Wexner, Victoria's Secret, and how after buying Abercrombie and Fitch he introduced "thongs for pre-teens" into their clothing line.
If you have never seen the aforementioned videos of dr. Pierce's broadcasts set to video, highly recommend scouring various torrents until you find them

BannedHipster , says: Website March 9, 2021 at 1:24 pm GMT • 22.7 hours ago

The FBI/SDNY reported they had seized DVD's from Epstein's Manhattan townhouse that were labeled "Young [name] + name."

Why hasn't the FBI/SDNY arrested anyone found on the videotapes? Why haven't they confirmed or denied future prosecutions? If they have the tapes, they can prosecute.

So what's the hold up?

According to former FBI Sibel Edmonds, the FBI and everyone else knew about Dennis Hastert and they had video evidence. But the Clinton administration refused to prosecute because it was better for them to use it as blackmail and political leverage.

Why hasn't Glenn Dubin andEva Andersson been arrested and charged for human trafficking? There is already eyewitness testimony they had confiscated the passport of an underage girl they had kidnapped and were holding against he will.

annamaria , says: March 10, 2021 at 2:17 am GMT • 9.8 hours ago
@restless94110 ated software that was then sold to governments and companies throughout the world. That plot's success was largely due to the role of a close associate of then-President Ronald Reagan and an American politician close to Maxwell, who later helped aid Reagan in the cover-up of the Iran Contra scandal.

Perhaps the best illustration of how the connections between many of these players often meld together can be seen in Ronald Lauder: a Mega Group member, former member of the Reagan administration, long-time donor to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel's Likud Party, as well as a long-time friend of Donald Trump and Roy Cohn.

annamaria , says: March 10, 2021 at 2:22 am GMT • 9.7 hours ago
@restless94110 Mega Group members -- and B'nai B'rith, particularly its spin-off known as the Anti-Defamation League (ADL). The Bronfman brothers were major donors to the ADL, with Edgar Bronfman serving as the ADL's honorary national vice-chair for several years.

In addition, Max Fisher of the Mega Group founded the National Jewish Coalition, now known as the Republican Jewish Coalition -- the main pro-Israel neoconservative political lobbying group, known for its support of hawkish policies, and whose current chief patrons, Sheldon Adelson and Bernard Marcus, are among Donald Trump's top donors.

Yes, we can only hope and pray for justice.

[Mar 10, 2021] Wherefore Art Thou Ghislaine Maxwell, by Philip Giraldi

The unanswered question is: why this was allowed? If Philip Giraldi is right that means full subservience of CIA and FBI to Mossad.
Mar 10, 2021 | www.unz.com

It is now going on a year and a half since "financier" and pedophile Jeffrey Epstein died, allegedly by hanging himself in a New York City prison. Since that time it has surfaced that there were a number of "administrative" errors in the jail, meaning that Epstein was not being observed or on suicide watch even though he had reportedly attempted to kill himself previously. The suspicion that Epstein was working for Israel's external intelligence agency Mossad or for its military intelligence counterpart also seemed confirmed through both Israeli and American sources. A recent book Epstein: Dead Men Tell No Tales written by Ari Ben-Menashe the former Israeli intelligence officer who actually ran the Epstein operation, described inter alia how Epstein was blackmailing prominent politicians on behalf of Israeli intelligence. Epstein had been working directly for the Israeli government since the 1980's and his operation, which was funded by Israel and also by prominent American Jews, was a classic "honey-trap" which used underage girls as bait to attract well-known politicians from around the world, a list that included Prince Andrew and Bill Clinton. The politicians would be photographed and video recorded when they were in bed with the girls. Afterwards, they would be approached and asked to do favors for Israel.

It doesn't take much to pull what is already known together and ask the question "Who among the celebrities and top-level politicians that Epstein cultivated were actually Israeli spies?" And of course there is a subplot. Assuming that Epstein was in fact involved in recruiting and/or running high level American agents in an "influence operation" that may have involved blackmail it is possible to come to the conclusion that he was killed in prison and that the suicide story was just a convenient cover-up. The Epstein case remains "open" and under investigation though it doesn't seem that anything is actually happening, the sure sign that someone powerful in the Establishment is making sure that nothing incriminating surfaces. Indeed, there already exists some evidence that Epstein was being protected when he was convicted in Florida of sex crimes in 2008 and was given a sentence that was little more than a slap on the wrist. After the fact, the U.S. Attorney for Miami Alexander Acosta involved in the case reported that the arrest and sentencing were above his pay grade, that he had been told that Epstein "'belonged to intelligence', and to leave it alone" a comment that apparently has never been pursued by investigators.

That the Epstein investigation appears to be in reverse gear suggests that one or more powerful Americans are still not implicated in the case but are concerned that that might change, but there remains an accessory to what went on at the Epstein mansion in Manhattan and on his private island in the Caribbean. That would be Ghislaine Maxwell, who is currently in prison in the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn and will be tried in July. Like the Epstein story in general, she has largely dropped off the media screen and one has to wonder what "get out of jail free" card she might be holding.

It has long been assumed that Epstein video recorded the sexual encounters with the underage girls that he used in his intelligence activity to blackmail prominent politicians among others. It has been suspected that Ghislaine has at least some of those tapes hidden in a secret location and may be using them to cut a deal with investigators and prosecutors. It now appears that she briefly discussed the tapes with CBS News 60 Minutes producer Ira Rosen, also making clear that there were tapes of both Bill Clinton and Donald Trump . The conversation took place in 2016 and she reportedly told Rosen that, given Trump's involvement in the upcoming election, she would not release any information derived from the tapes relating to Clinton until after the election and she would only do so while also exposing Trump. Up until now, she has done neither.

It has long been known that Epstein knew both the ex-and future presidents, though both have denied knowing the sex offender well for obvious reasons. Clinton, for example, flew on Epstein's Lolita Express private 727 at least 26 times and his presence at Epstein's island refuge has also been well documented. Trump clearly knew Epstein but has denied having any contact with him after his registration as a sex offender in 2008.

Ghislaine, for her part, was allegedly recruited young girls for Epstein to exploit and was a partner in his activity, though she has denied any guilt. Numerous victims say otherwise. Her lawyers have tried a number of ploys to free her, including claims that she had been abused by prison staff and that the jury being selected to try her will be "too white." Her brother Ian claimed last week that she is enduring "brutal and degrading treatment" in prison with four guards watching her at all times. He added that she has lost 20 pounds and "ability to concentrate."

Ghislaine also offered to post a $28.5 million bail or a $5 million bond for home arrest in which she would wear an ankle monitor, but the judge decided that given her extensive resources she constitutes a considerable flight risk even if she turns in her American, British and French passports. She would also be able to flee to Israel based on her father Robert's religion and service to that country and Israel does not normally extradite.

The most interesting aspect of the arrest, imprisonment and trial of Ghislaine Maxwell is what it does not do. She basically is being tried on whether it can be confirmed that she was a "pimp" for Jeffrey Epstein. Her father was an Israeli intelligence asset and it is believed that he made the connection between Epstein and the Jewish state's military intelligence. But no one in that New York court room in July will be asking that. Nor will there be any revelations about Epstein's "intelligence connection" nor of the possibility that the Israelis had their hooks in both a former and a future American president. None of that will be on the table and meanwhile Ghislaine might have those possibly incriminating tapes squirreled away somewhere. That is the really important stuff that I would like to have the answers to. The fact that the answers are not forthcoming sounds a bit like a cover-up, doesn't it?

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation (Federal ID Number #52-1739023) that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is https://councilforthenationalinterest.org address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected]


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LondonBob , says: March 9, 2021 at 8:06 am GMT • 1.2 days ago

I always wondered what it was the Israelis had on Clinton.

Jon Halpenny , says: March 9, 2021 at 8:33 am GMT • 1.1 days ago

Just imagine how differently the Epstein story would be covered by the media if Epstein and Maxwell were ethnic Russians, and if Maxwell's father had received a State funeral in Russia.

Not Only Wrathful , says: March 9, 2021 at 10:39 am GMT • 1.1 days ago

A recent book Epstein: Dead Men Tell No Tales written by Ari Ben-Menashe the former Israeli intelligence officer who actually ran the Epstein operation,

He did that after being cut by the Israelis in the 80s for treason? Or he did that while working with them on the Iran Contra scandal – must have been busy!

Lol

You, Philip Giraldi, are such a total fraud

anon [318] Disclaimer , says: March 9, 2021 at 11:38 am GMT • 1.0 days ago

America is notorious for justifying or even undertaking with full knoeldege each and every illegal activity as a necessity against foreign and domestic threat or for national seciruty.
But often more than not,the secuirty is ignored and threat is not adderssed . Eptesin tape ,Ghisling – Quisling tapes arent going to disappear even if their lives are erased from the memories of the victims ,politicians,or from their handlers.

I wonder ifSaudi and UAE royals also flew or if they flew the gilrs to London or Riyadh. Theur capitulations to Israeli demands could only be explained as results of manipulations.

Bardon Kaldian , says: March 9, 2021 at 12:08 pm GMT • 23.9 hours ago

I don't see that Epstein was so certainly an Israeli asset. Anyway- what could sex blackmail achieve? Those politicians were already supportive of Israel. Why bother with blackmailing them?

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The entire affair is something truly- sleazy. And pathetically humiliating. One would imagine that all those powerful guys could get laid as they wished, in any privately arranged surroundings, fulfilling their geriatric sex fantasies. And here, all that is an old-fashioned pimping via some sleazebag to get a piece of meat from runaway girls.

Truly degrading.

TKK , says: March 9, 2021 at 12:35 pm GMT • 23.5 hours ago

The deal Epstein received in Florida is nothing short of ..world shaking.

This creature's entire life was raping 13 year old girls who were white, poor and had no fathers. Remember- they legally cannot give consent. It's an old bar exam troupe: Man has 16 year old girl execute notarized statement agreeing to sex , has her mother deposed, buys her a 5 carat diamond, has a psych eval to make sure she is emotionally sophisticated enough to have sex and then has sex with her. Legal? Never.

Legally, a human being is incapable of giving consent to have sexual intercourse under the age of 18 in Florida.

When a few gumshoes and state Detectives began aggressively investigating Epstein- Epstein hired Private Investigators to harass th em.

Let that sink in. He hired a PI to shine his headlights in a Detective's home at 3AM for hours and blow his horn. If we did that, we would be getting our head kicked in at the jail and probably be recorded as accidental death.

The naked brazenness of Epstein is prima facie evidence he was and is being protected by the US government for the Israeli government . And he still is. His ferret faced pimp Maxwell thought he would protect her and that is why she foolishly remained in American -- -because she knew Epstein was alive and believed his power was her talisman.

Who is that dumb? To believe a man who treated young girls like a masturbation dishrags was going to be her hero?

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aandrews , says: March 9, 2021 at 2:37 pm GMT • 21.4 hours ago

"A recent book Epstein: Dead Men Tell No Tales written by Ari Ben-Menashe ."

I don't see him listed as an author.

Unit472 , says: March 9, 2021 at 3:59 pm GMT • 20.1 hours ago
@Bardon Kaldian no sense. If Epstein was as 'connected ' as we are led to believe, why did he leave Paris and return to the US to face arrest? Surely he would have been tipped off that he was under investigation.

Then there is the $158 million Epstein was paid by Apollo Capital's Leon Black. As you note a man with his wealth could rustle up his own stable of teeny boppers if that was his desire. He had no need for an Epstein. Further the 'fees' he was paying Epstein were raising eyebrows with other senior managers at Apollo.

Something sinister going on for sure but what could be so valuable for billionaires to risk their reputations by associating with an Epstein?

macilrae , says: March 9, 2021 at 4:24 pm GMT • 19.7 hours ago

The apparently irrational support for Israel and extreme Jewish causes on the part of those highly placed in society has to be far more to do with blackmail than with mere financial leverage as is generally believed. This thing is now on an industrial scale and I should suppose 'they' can now get to just about anybody that they want to 'influence'.

anonymous [400] Disclaimer , says: March 9, 2021 at 4:30 pm GMT • 19.6 hours ago

A couple of pervs being useful to foreign intelligence services. The true source of all his unlimited money doesn't seem to ever have been truly explained so it's quite possible that the Israeli state was secretly subsidizing him from behind the scenes. Maxwell has three passports? That's quite unusual. The trial will have a narrow focus on the pimping so we'll never hear about anything beyond that so I have to agree with Mr Giraldi on that. I can't agree with this Epstein is alive idea. It's like the mafia: he became just a liability, knew too much and had outlived his usefulness. Dead people don't talk. They're not in the business of rescuing people. Murder or suicide, he's dead.

There's been lots of speculation about the sexual depravities of the political class. Where there's smoke there's fire. It's hard to see, though, what a foreign government could get through blackmail that they couldn't get with old-fashioned bribery. Perhaps it works best at the second tier of elites, inducing corporate heads to make investments here and there, allowing technical knowledge to be transferred, letting them spy through internet backdoors, etc.

UncommonGround , says: March 9, 2021 at 4:31 pm GMT • 19.5 hours ago
@Bardon Kaldian ith underage females (no pedophilia) for Anglo & Anglo-American elite with a strong Jewish presence.

It's possible. But why would he have done that? Probably the business with the girls costed millions. What would he get back from it? What have politicians payed him for the service? Why would he do very expensive favours for politicians?

If your idea is right, there would be money involved in the business and there would be many other "clients". But we never heard about them, only about a few names of politicians. It seems that the Prince was more or less close to him, but this is apparently not the case with other possible famous clients.

Zoom-Copter , says: March 9, 2021 at 5:03 pm GMT • 19.0 hours ago

A Question For Mr. Girardi,

Mr. Girardi, Given your experience in world of espionage and time spent in the UK, could you possibly take a shot at answering this?

OK– given who Robert Maxwell was and that his infamy went so far that even a teenage American pleb like me knew about his raid on the pension funds and his "suicide" 20+ years ago, how the hell did MI-5 not know?

Assuming MI-5 knew, how could they not call up The Royal Protection Squad and say to them: " hey, mention to Randy Andy he is bringing mossad spies into the royal palaces and God only knows what they could be planting in there."

Or is MI-5 so Jewed they dare not even mention the obvious?

Cauchemar du Singe , says: March 9, 2021 at 6:05 pm GMT • 18.0 hours ago
@Stan d Mute

The FBI grabbed the safe and its contents that were in Epstein's NYC townhouse that he got from Leslie Wexner of the New Albany and Columbus Wexners.
The FBI, now in possession of all that Blackmail material, continues J. Edgar Hoover's tradition of shakedown and manipulation of Gubbamint perverts.
Democracy In Action.

anon [413] Disclaimer , says: March 9, 2021 at 6:05 pm GMT • 18.0 hours ago

Phil Giraldi,

Thanks so much for writing this. Our politicians, business and civic leaders, and young up-and-coming leading citizens all need to be forewarned that various intel agencies still run honey-traps using secret recordings.

I imagine they watch a target's online life also. If a business magnate is sneaking around on a website like Adultfriendfinder, or orders an expensive hooker from a website to come to a hotel's penthouse in New York, these intel agencies may have ways of knowing this and setting him up. They could have assets approach hin in the hotel bar also. Im grateful your colum can serve as a warning, and hope its widely shared.

Sean , says: March 9, 2021 at 6:06 pm GMT • 18.0 hours ago
@anon l case entails. The police chief did that because Epstein legal and investigative team were running rings round the state police.

Extremely wealthy men are not what the legal system is set up for dealing with, so Epstein got off lightly, compared to what the average man would have got. However it must be borne in mind that his victims got paid very substantial compensation–totaling tens of millions– as part of the deal, and Epstein was sent to prison as a sex offender and publicly disgraced. Not a very impressive result for a centi-millionaire who also had high level Deep State people intervening for him. Ditto Ghislaine.

Agent76 , says: March 9, 2021 at 8:00 pm GMT • 16.1 hours ago

Oct 31, 2020 Ghislaine Maxwell stonewalls & dodges questions about Epstein, Prince Andrew & Bill Clinton

Ghislaine Maxwell stonewalls & dodges questions about Epstein, Prince Andrew & Bill Clinton.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/qlAdwj7TMnE?feature=oembed

restless94110 , says: March 9, 2021 at 8:48 pm GMT • 15.3 hours ago

First, a pedophile is a person who is attracted sexually to prepubescent females. Since Epstein was not that then he is definitively not a pedophile.

Second, a pimp is a person, almost always male, who has a "stable" of 2 or more girls that he sends out to have sex for money, all or most of which he takes. Since Maxwell is at most accused of asking older teenagers–all of them within 18 months of or over the legal age of consent, depending on the individual state and the individual country–if they would go take money for sex, and since Maxwell did not take any part of the money the girls received, and since the girls voluntarily had the sex for the money, it is definitively clear that Maxwell was not a pimp, and there is no case at all against her.

Third and last, I followed the link referenced in regard to Maxwell saying that she had tapes on Trump and Clinton, and that's not what she said. The source is murky and weird anyway, but what there is of it is that it comes from a producer of 60 Minutes who no longer works there but had a book to sell. He asked her a leading question ("There are tapes aren't there?") and she gave a couple of noncommittal responses that neither admitted nor revealed anything. It looks like the guy was trying to pump up his boring book to get more sales.

The fact is that your article is just regurgitated nonsense. Maxwell will walk. She should have been given bail months ago. She wasn't running and she wasn't hiding before. Obviously the felt strongly that she had done nothing illegal. And it's clear, she hadn't.

This is a complete waste of time and money. It is obvious that female prosecutors are behind it. We can only hope and pray for justice. Don't let them get away with their Stalinist show trials one day longer.

Titus Jerusalem Smasher , says: March 9, 2021 at 8:52 pm GMT • 15.2 hours ago

After the fact, the U.S. Attorney for Miami Alexander Acosta involved in the case reported that the arrest and sentencing were above his pay grade, that he had been told that Epstein " 'belonged to intelligence' , and to leave it alone" a comment that apparently has never been pursued by investigators.

This is absolutely key. How has this not been followed up? How is Acosta able to live a normal life without being hounded day and night to reveal who told him this? Which intelligence agency? Why isn't this the subject of counter-intelligence investigations? Where is Acosta now?

Annony Mouse , says: March 9, 2021 at 10:18 pm GMT • 13.8 hours ago

I believe the fact that Bill Clinton was recorded to have been on the Lolita Express approximately 26 times illustrates that he was shown tapes very early on and thought "in for a penny – in for a pound" and went back for more helpings. I am not surprised at all that he was compromised as he is known to think with his lower regions, but for others, i.e. Prince Andrew, surely he would be aware of Ashkenazi tactics – especially with blackmail.

lysias , says: March 9, 2021 at 11:01 pm GMT • 13.0 hours ago

I think the blackmailed put themselves in a position to be blackmailed because they were told that that was the way to join the insiders whose careers were guaranteed.

Alden , says: March 9, 2021 at 11:19 pm GMT • 12.7 hours ago
@Curmudgeon n an act of prostitution at 17, or under the age of 18, even the day before his or her 18 birthday.

Although being a prostitute age 18 and over is legal in the UK; pimping pandering soliciting for prostitution running a brothel and being the customer of a prostitute is still illegal in England

If, as you say she was paid by Epstein $5,000 for sex with Andrew, Guiffre committed an illegal act of prostitution . If Epstein paid her, that was pimping or money for sex; illegal in the UK. If, as Guiffre claimed, the act of prostitution took place in Maxwell's home, that was Maxwell committing the crime of running a brothel or house of prostitution.

CanSpeccy , says: Website March 10, 2021 at 4:34 am GMT • 7.5 hours ago
@Annony Mouse

but for others, i.e. Prince Andrew, surely he would be aware of Ashkenazi tactics – especially with blackmail.

Question is, what the Hell werePrince Andrew's official "protection officers" doing? These people are presumably managed by one or other of Britain's security services. They must have known what Andrew was doing. Why, then, did the security service not intervene and warn Andrew off Epstein's Island? Or was he doing a job for them -- spying on Epstein's spying operation?

Commentator Mike , says: March 10, 2021 at 7:34 am GMT • 4.5 hours ago
@Alden n well and correctly the technicalities of the situation in the UK and that Guiffre, Maxwell and Epstein were all guilty of some crimes relating to the illicit sex trade. But was Prince Andrew guilty of anything? Unless he was soliciting for sex with Guiffre? He wasn't offering her money, but if he knew she was being paid by Epstein and trafficked across borders by Epstein and Maxwell? Of course he may have been using underage girls of this sex ring elsewhere that we have not been told about. But you are right, Curmudgeon should know that even transporting a grandmother across borders to engage in paid sex, i.e prostitution, is sex/human trafficking and a crime in most countries.
Mulga Mumblebrain , says: March 10, 2021 at 7:44 am GMT • 4.3 hours ago
@annamaria

Actually, if you read the 'Chicago Jewish News', October 24, 2008, the article by Pauline Yearwood, entitled 'Obama and the Jews', you will find that Abner Mikva, Chicago Jewish society stalwart, former Congressman, judge and Clinton apparatchik, declared Obama 'the first Jewish President'. Obviously Clinton was just another useful Sabbat Goy idiot.

[Mar 04, 2021] Not only is America's crisis systemic, but its elites are uncultured , badly educated and mesmerized by decades of their own propaganda, which in the end, they accept as a reality

Mar 04, 2021 | www.unz.com

Franz , says: March 2, 2021 at 5:35 am GMT • 2.8 days ago

I ordered this book when Paul Craig Roberts mentioned, and quoted from it, on February 14, 2021. I especially liked PCRs quote halfway through the essay:

The United States isn't a nation any longer . It is a collection of peoples without a country. A nation requires a unifying spirit of the people, and the United States has no such unifying spirit. Martyanov observes that there is nothing in common between a white WASP farm worker from Iowa, a Jewish lawyer from Manhattan, and a black rapper from the Bronx. They view the world, America and their place in it differently, and those visions are irreconcilable.

This has been obvious to some of us for decades. Worse yet, there is no mechanism or movement anyone can imagine that will keep the disintegration process in check. If anything, the elites are finding new and exciting ways to divide Americans further, and nobody is happier about it than the social media addicts who enjoy bigger and better rotten egg memes they can toss at the enemy de jour.

This is interesting too:

Not only is America's crisis systemic, but its elites are uncultured , badly educated and mesmerized by decades of their own propaganda, which in the end, they accept as a reality

I do hope the author means "uncultured" in the pejorative, insulting, Russian sense of the word. They are the "elites" who are revolting, and they are too dumb to know they are kicking the floorboards out from under their feet.

RichardTaylor , says: March 2, 2021 at 5:52 am GMT • 2.8 days ago

"People of the United States, your ruling elites are lying to you just like the chamber orchestra on the Titanic that was playing music while the supposedly "unsinkable" Titanic was sinking!".

The difference is, the actual American ship was just fine and hadn't hit an iceberg. Rather, we were being deliberately sunk by a bunch of loons who were punching holes in the hull of the ship!

But don't go thinking the whole shebang is about to go under. This has been the dream of preppers on the right, and various anti-American groups on the other side, for generations. The Big Collapse, in which the whole North American continent, with all its power and wealth, just vanishes, is a pipe dream.

Mulga Mumblebrain , says: March 2, 2021 at 6:10 am GMT • 2.8 days ago

The most immediate causes of US collapse are, in my opinion, the rise of the predator, parasite, class to a position of total dominance while the proles have sunk into the shite, and the rise of China...

[Feb 16, 2021] What Intel agency did Robert Maxwell and Mega group work for?

Feb 16, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

For those who read and study history, it has long been known that the CIA has placed their operatives throughout every agency of the U.S. government, as explained by Fletcher Prouty in The Secret Team ; that CIA officers Cord Myer and Frank Wisner operated secret programs to get some of the most vocal exponents of intellectual freedom among intellectuals, journalists, and writers to be their voices for unfreedom and censorship, as explained by Frances Stonor Saunders in The Cultural Cold War and Joel Whitney in Finks , among others; that Cord Myer was especially focused on and successful in "courting the Compatible Left" since right wingers were already in the Agency's pocket.


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They are always leading you. They deal with different levels of awareness with different narratives.

Did you ever stop and wonder for a single minute if one man, Rockefeller, was really the single power behind standard oil? Ever hear of front men? Those are the ones meant to be seen.

How few ever wonder who TF really controlled the CIA and it's precursor?

No, people stop right there. They think they are super informed by knowing Rockefeller and the CIA. They try to hold the line there.

This suppression of conspiracy theory tactic, of trying to get people to fixate on operation paperclip, which is a limited hangout nothingburger, is also really over used.

Ever hear of the Mossad Honeypot run by Epstein and other enemy foreign agents? How about how the whole world watched the FBI cover it up?

Oh, that's way too hot to touch. Let's talk about standard oil and operation paperclip.

Why was Epstein's island named Little St James? What did the feds bury there with that heavy equipment? What Intel agency did Robert Maxwell and Mega group work for? Why doesn't anybody mention that they are all Mossad

Oh yeah, there is the answer to all of it. Now let's go revisit those "anti-Semitic conspiracy theories" on currency ownership.

[Feb 11, 2021] The thoroughly unlikable, foul mouthed (((Rosanne Barr))) was telling everyone that would listen (before being de-platformed) that Trump's DOJ was arresting more pedophiles an at any time in past, and was cracking down on trafficking of under age children

Feb 11, 2021 | www.unz.com

Curmudgeon , says: February 10, 2021 at 10:12 pm GMT • 12.8 hours ago

@War for Blair Mountain fre-jeffrey-epstein-accuser-claims-reporter-embellished-many-donald-trump-connections/"> https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/virginia-giuffre-jeffrey-epstein-accuser-claims-reporter-embellished-many-donald-trump-connections/

As for Roberts, I suspect that, as someone on the "inside" and knowing how things actually, not theoretically, get done, he sees Trump as a disrupter. Even Reagan, under whom Roberts served, was frequently hamstrung by a number of these people, and Reagan had the advantage of being Governor of California. I'm not so sure his enthusiasm is about Trump, beyond Trump's ripping the mask of US foreign policy and exposing the deep state media for what it is.

[Feb 03, 2021] "for example, on September 28, 2018, Hunter ordered $95,000 transferred without explanation), a "business" run by Jim Biden out of a residential address. Jim regularly invoiced Hunter for office expenses and employee costs, as well as a monthly retainer cost of some $68,000, plus other fees in the tens of thousands of dollars."

Feb 03, 2021 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

DJG , February 2, 2021 at 6:38 pm

Hunter Biden's laptop. The article is by Peter Van Buren, who indeed is not a nutcase.

Anyone here ever / currently a free lance? You'll love these details:

"for example, on September 28, 2018, Hunter ordered $95,000 transferred without explanation), a "business" run by Jim Biden out of a residential address. Jim regularly invoiced Hunter for office expenses and employee costs, as well as a monthly retainer cost of some $68,000, plus other fees in the tens of thousands of dollars."

Sure: My accountant would have been ga-ga for that. Then there's this little tidbit in which the CPA seems to believe that paying taxes is voluntary:

"The CPA's concern is that the IRS is sensitive to the fact that some try to conceal income as loans to be written off as expenses later, especially if the amounts are large. This can trigger an audit. If the loans are "forgiven," then they are income. If not declared, that is potential fraud. The same note from the CPA indicates Hunter owes $600,000 in personal taxes and another $204,000 for Owasco and urges him to file a return even if he is not going to pay the taxes."

[Feb 03, 2021] Hunter Biden's Guilty Laptop - The American Conservative

Feb 03, 2021 | www.theamericanconservative.com

The most charitable reading of the sleazy saga is that Joe Biden, one of the most powerful men in the world, is an incredibly gullible idiot. (By vasilis asvestas / Shutterstock)

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PETER VAN BUREN

Iread the files on Hunter Biden's laptop. They paint a sleazy picture of multi-million dollar wire transfers, potential money laundering, and possible tax evasion. They raise serious questions about the judgment and propriety of Jim Biden, the president-elect's brother, and Joe himself. Call it smoke not fire, but smoke that should not be ignored. The files were supplied to TAC by a known source previously established to have access.

Joe Biden is lucky a coordinated media effort kept Hunter out of the campaign. The FBI has had the laptop since 2019, when they subpoenaed the files in connection with a money laundering investigation. Federal investigators also served a round of subpoenas on December 8, a month after the election, including one for Hunter Biden himself. While the legal thrust of the investigation by the federal prosecutor in Delaware is taxes, the real focus seems to be on Hunter's Chinese connections. This all comes after the FBI has had over a year to examine some of the same files TAC looked at.

https://lockerdome.com/lad/13045197114175078?pubid=ld-dfp-ad-13045197114175078-0&pubo=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theamericanconservative.com&rid=&width=838

In the final weeks before the election, Hunter's laptop fell into Republican hands. The story went public in the New York Post , revealing that Hunter Biden introduced his father, then vice president, to a top executive at Ukrainian energy firm Burisma less than a year before the elder Biden pressured government officials in Ukraine into firing a prosecutor who was investigating the company. The meeting is mentioned in a message of appreciation that Vadym Pozharskyi, an adviser to the board of Burisma, sent Hunter Biden about a year after Hunter himself joined the Burisma board at a salary of $ 83,000 a month with no obvious work duties past making such introductions.

Nice work if you can get it, and to get it your dad better be vice president. If all that alone does not meet the test of impropriety, we need a new test. Hunter Biden's value to clients was his perceived access to the White House. His father Joe was at least a passive participant in the scheme, maybe more than that.

The problem was many Americans never heard this story. Twitter led a social media charge to not allow the information online. After years of salivating over every bit of Trump family gossip, the mainstream media claimed the Biden story did not matter, or was Russian disinfo . Surveys suggest the information could have swung the election if voters had known about it. One survey showed that enough people in battleground states would have changed their votes to give Trump 311 electoral votes and reelection.

No mind, really. As soon as it became clear Joe Biden was going to win, the media on all sides lost interest in the laptop. The story became about the story. It devolved into think pieces about the Orwellian role of social media and some online giggling about the sex tapes on the laptop. But our short attention spans have consequences. The laptop still has a lot to tell us.

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Hunter's laptop was chock-a-block with video that appears to show Hunter smoking crack while engaged in a sex act with a woman, as well as numerous other sexually explicit images. There's evidence there that Hunter spent money on escorts , some $21,000 on cam sites, big plays on all sorts of depravities . There is also Joe's car insurance information, Hunter's SSN, pages of call logs, and lots of email addresses, bank account numbers, and personal information of prominent people. None of the material is encrypted, just dumped on a standard MacBook Pro using the password "Hunter02." The machine was regularly connected to the internet and might as well have had an electronic sign on it saying "My dad is important, here's what you'll need to blackmail me and others to get to him."

But there is more. The laptop shows Hunter, through a number of front companies, accepted money from Chinese and Ukrainian entities and moved that money to the U.S. where it was parceled out to other entities, including Joe Biden's brother. Some of it then went back to Chinese hands. There is no way a simple read-through can tell if the money was legal consulting fees or illegal money laundering and tax fraud. But it all smells bad: multi-million dollar transfers to LLCs without employees, residences used as multiple business addresses, legal tricks from Cyprus and the British Virgin Islands, and even a minor CIA connection.

Ask yourself if this demands more investigation. Ask yourself if voters might not have benefited from knowing more about Joe Biden's side of all this.

The majority of the contents of the laptop are a jumbled record of Hunter's international business ventures and financial records. Outstanding in the haystack are a large number of wire transfers. Those with traceable addresses appear to be mostly anonymous shell companies run out of lawyers' offices, with no employees and fuzzy public paper trails. One off the top involved $259,845 traveling on April 2, 2018, from the Hudson West III in New York to a numbered account held by Cathay Bank. Hudson West was created by Hunter Biden's own law firm, Owasco, with several Chinese nationals, including a Ye Jianming associate, Gong Wendong. Ye Jianming is chairman of CEFC China Energy, who reportedly had close ties to both the Chinese government and the People's Liberation Army. He's been arrested in China on corruption charges and has conveniently disappeared.

Biden in August 2018 also returned $100,000 back to CEFC in China via its own New York subsidiary LLC, Hudson West V, whose listed address is 12 Foxwood Road, Great Neck, NY 11024. That address is not a business office but instead a single family home worth over $6 million. Phone records suggest two people live there, including Gong Wendong. Money appears to move from physical China to virtual Hunter back to virtual China in the U.S., starting and ending in accounts tied to Gong Wendong after touching base with Hunter, a potential indicator of laundering. Chinese money in China changed into Chinese money in America. Caution is needed; while what looks like money laundering at first glance may indeed be so, it may be designed to hide the cash from the Chinese government while staying inside American law, a quasi-legal service Hunter possibly supplied.

That 12 Foxwood address shows up again on Biden's laptop as the mailing address for another Gong Wendong venture, ColdHarbour Capital, which sent and received money to Biden. It is also listed as the residence of Shan Gao, who appears to control accounts in Beijing tied to Hudson, CEFC, and 12 Foxwood.

The most significant appearance of 12 Foxwood was as the mailing address for a secured VISA card in the name of Biden's company, Hudson West III. The card is funded by someone unnamed through Cathay Bank for $99,000 and guaranteed by someone's checking account held by Cathay worth $450,000. Shared users of the card are Hunter and Gong Wendong. The card was opened as CEFC secured a stake in a Russian state-owned energy company. Biden and others subsequently used the credit card to purchase $101,291.46 worth of extravagant items, including airline tickets and multiple items at Apple stores, pharmacies, hotels, and restaurants. A Senate report characterized these transactions as "potential financial criminal activity." Putting money on a secured VISA card in lieu of a direct wire transfer to Biden may be seen by some as an attempt to hide the source of the money and thus allow Biden not to claim it as income.

James Biden and Sara Biden were also authorized users of the credit card, though their business connection to Hunter and Gong Wendong is unclear. Jim is Joe's brother, Sara his wife. Jim over the years has been a nightclub owner, insurance broker, political consultant, and investor. When he ran into financial trouble having triple mortgaged his home, he was bailed out via loans from Joe and Hunter and by a series of Joe's donors. Jim also received a loan of $500,000 from John Hynansky, a Ukrainian-American businessman and longtime donor to Joe Biden's campaigns. This all was in 2015, at the same time the then-vice president oversaw U.S. policy toward the country. As a senator, Joe Biden made use of a private jet owned by Hynansky's son.

The 12 Foxwood address also appears on millions of dollars worth of bank transfers among Cathay Bank, CEFC, and multiple semi-anonymous LLCs and hedge funds. One single transfer to Hudson West III on August 8, 2017, represented the movement of $5 million from Northern Capital International, which appears to be a Chinese government-owned import-export front company.

Switch over to the CDB Bank folder and you see a wire transfer from Burisma for 36,000 euros, run through a bank in Cyprus, to Biden's own account on that island. Burisma is the one company from the laptop that made the news. Hunter's role, what he actually did besides introduce his father to other people, is still unclear.

Burisma must be an interesting place. Hunter's laptop partially exposes a complex web of sub-companies in Cyprus and the British Virgin Islands such that figuring out who owns who is near impossible. Hunter, speaking to his business partner, speculates about buying a Lithuanian bank to receive the Ukrainian money, and he also notes that Joseph Cofer Black , former director of the CIA's Counterterrorism Center, sits on Burisma's board. Black previously served as vice chairman at mercenary provider Blackwater Worldwide (now Academi).

All just business, right? Not everyone saw it that way. An email from Wells Fargo's corporate compliance team (Wells Fargo handled many of the international wire transfers) asks on September 20, 2018, what the actual business of Hudson West is, who its owners are, and where it is located. Also asked is what the purpose of all the incoming wires is. It notes some business accounts appear to be for personal expenses. It also questions numerous outgoing wires to the Lion Hall Group (for example, on September 28, 2018, Hunter ordered $95,000 transferred without explanation), a "business" run by Jim Biden out of a residential address. Jim regularly invoiced Hunter for office expenses and employee costs, as well as a monthly retainer cost of some $68,000, plus other fees in the tens of thousands of dollars.

There is no record of these questions being answered. It is possible to see the disbursal of funds via credit card to Jim Biden as a way to diffuse the amounts away from Hunter, and via Jim's invoices, a way to convert income from China into deductible business expenses for Hunter in America, reducing his tax burden. The involvement of Lion Hall and Jim Biden also spreads the money around, lowering its profile. If the invoices were shown to be fraudulent (i.e., Jim did not actually consult for Hunter), the potential for tax fraud exists.

Besides Wells Fargo, others also had questions. Hunter's own CPA, preparing to file 2018 federal taxes, wrote to Hunter asking, "As far as Owasco [Hunter's law firm] is concerned there were some receipts we classified as loans. Owasco received approximately $550,000 from Burisma and paid about one half this amount to, I believe, someone named 'Devon.' I am not sure of the payee The one half payment to 'Devon' was not recorded as income."

Devon is likely Devon Archer , co-founder and managing partner of Rosemont Capital alongside Hunter. Who else was part of Rosemont? Christopher Heinz , John Kerry's son. And, small world, Devon Archer sat on the board of Burisma alongside Hunter Biden. The CPA's concern is that the IRS is sensitive to the fact that some try to conceal income as loans to be written off as expenses later, especially if the amounts are large. This can trigger an audit. If the loans are "forgiven," then they are income. If not declared, that is potential fraud.

The same note from the CPA indicates Hunter owes $600,000 in personal taxes and another $204,000 for Owasco and urges him to file a return even if he is not going to pay the taxes. Besides taxes, things did not always go well for Hunter. On March 6, 2019, he sent an email to a friend saying, "Buddy do you have a cash app to send me $100 until wire goes. I have no money for gas and I'm literally stuck at a rest stop on 95." He earlier had sought a $35,000 advance from his regular "draw" out of Owasco. And keep an eye on Hunter's health -- he pays close to $9,000 a quarter for life insurance.

Joe Biden is one lucky S.O.B. When the powers that be decided Barack Obama needed someone a little more, you know, establishment, as his VP to calm voters, there was Joe, as white-bread as the state he represented, vaulted into the White House that had otherwise eluded him. His only controversial points came from having supported the status quo for so many years that it had changed underneath him. Are we tough on crime, or do Black Lives Matter? Didn't matter to Joe, just point him in the right direction so he knows what to agree with. And so in 2020, when the Democrats realized exactly what kind of man they needed to wipe away the sins of two dishonest and chaotic primaries, well, there was Joe again.

Joe was fortunate that the mainstream media memory-holed Hunter's story and conservative media lost focus looking for a tweetable smoking gun when the truth was a bit too complicated to parse out in a sentence or two. But there is still a story here.

The short version is there's a lot to suggest money laundering and tax fraud on Hunter's part. The purpose of the money in and out was always unclear, with invoices for vague expenses and lots and lots of "consulting." One could invent a legal explanation for everything. One could imagine many illegal explanations. There is no way anyone could know the difference without seeing Hunter's taxes, asking him questions, and doing some serious forensic accounting. It is unlikely any of that will happen now that the election is over. Even to Guiliani et al., it really doesn't matter any more. They took one shot, missed, and walked away.

That will leave undigested the bigger tale of president-elect Biden, who ran in part on an anti-corruption platform following the Trump family escapades. While Joe Biden no doubt regrets what appears to have been a one-off meeting with the Burisma official, he did indeed take the meeting as VP. It's always easier to apologize when caught than seek permission in advance in Joe's world.

A 2017 email chain involving Hunter brokering an ultimately failed deal for a new venture with old friend CEFC, the Chinese energy company, described a 10 percent set-aside for the "big guy," whom former Hunter Biden partner Tony Bobulinski publicly identified as Joe Biden . Joe also took Hunter to China with him on Air Force Two and met with Chinese leaders while Hunter tried to make deals on his own. Joe also had Hunter and partner Devon Archer to the White House only two days before they joined Burisma. It was Joe's donors and pals who bailed out brother Jim over the years with sweetheart loans.

A lot of appearance of improprietous malarkey from a senior statesman who knows better. In places like China and the Ukraine, where corruption is endemic, it is assumed the sons of rich and powerful men have access to their father and that access is for sale. Hunter Biden traded on those assumptions for millions of dollars, and Joe stood by understanding what was happening. Every father wants to help his son, and Hunter, one can imagine, went to his dad time after time pleading for just one more little favor to get him clear of his sordid past. Joe, a decent man at heart, likely nodded. So a meeting. A handshake. An office visit, a posed photo, whatever would help but was still plausibly deniable. Until the next time. Just one more, Dad. Please?

Joe's larger role in all things Hunter needs to be questioned. Joe, as well as the Obama State Department, knew about Hunter's antics. Joe pretended Hunter's financial windfalls had nothing to do with their relationship and were simply a constant series of coincidental lucky breaks for a ne'er-do-well son who happened to fail upward while his dad was VP. Joe says he and his son never talked about business. Maybe Joe assumed Hunter's Porsche was just a lucky find (his car payments are on the laptop).

While, of course, Hunter is an adult with his own mind, his father was one of the most powerful men in the world and yet apparently did nothing to stop what was going on among Hunter, his brother Jim, the Chinese, the Ukrainians, and himself -- at minimum, the gross appearance of impropriety over a period of years. Biden's defense has always been sweeping : "My son did nothing wrong." That alone raises questions of judgment on the part of Joe Biden. Not least because in a few weeks he becomes president of the United States. And if the president does it, it's not illegal, right?

Peter Van Buren is the author of We Meant Well: How I Helped Lose the Battle for the Hearts and Minds of the Iraqi People , Hooper's War: A Novel of WWII Japan , and Ghosts of Tom Joad: A Story of the 99 Percent .


kouroi a month ago

Maybe it is the sad truth..?

danram kouroi a month ago

Maybe you're just deluded enough to believe it because it's what you want to believe.

kouroi danram a month ago

Why do you project your certitude onto others. "Maybe" does not imply certainty, just the opposite...

5JimBob danram a month ago • edited

Maybe you can offer information that contradicts the assertions and alleged facts in this article? Please make the effort to enlighten the rest of us. It'll force you to seriously read the article and learn its contents in order to refute them. If you can't do that then you haven't the courage to try and support your own assertions. It's hard to face the possibility that you're wrong, but if you build a case maybe you'll actually change a few minds here and there. As things stand right now you seem guilty to me of being "just deluded enough to (not) believe it (the article) because it's what you want to (not) believe."

Katepacomen a month ago

Jared Kushner and I don't care

kenofken a month ago

Nobody outside the Trump Cult cares about Hunter Biden and since they know Biden isn't really the president, they have no cause for concern.

former-vet kenofken a month ago

That's exactly how I would have felt if Trump's kids had a strong appearance of selling their father's influence for tens of millions of dollars! And if the Trump kids business partners turned on them and gave testimony under oath to the FBI about it, and volumes of documentary evidence supported it!

Nothingburger! I'm sure you and the media would have agreed with how I felt, and completely ignored Trump corruption before the election. 'Cause that's the fair and balanced media we all enjoy!

penelopeo former-vet a month ago

Silly vet. Trump's kids HAVE A STRONG APPEARANCE OF SELLING THEIR FATHER'S INFLUENCE.

Have you been living under a rock? Why did Ivanka get several Chinese patents AT THE SAME TIME Daddy was letting a Chinese company off the hook and hosting the Chinese leader at Mar-A-Lago? Why is Jared Kushner jetting off to ME countries looking for investment money while an active advisor in the West Wing? Why are Beavis and Butthead (Don Jr and Eric) looking for foreign properties while Daddy is president?

Wake up.

Joe_Hubris penelopeo a month ago

Trump's children were actively involved in international business concerns long before Trump ran for office. Hunter Biden is a low-life crack head who never achieved anything until his daddy was VP. If you can't acknowledge the difference, you are incapable of reason.

Rick Mercier Joe_Hubris a month ago

@Joe_Hubris Quite right, we all heard that donkey jr met with the Russians at Trump Tower. There was ample evidence, before he let it out himself. But that wasn't exactly conducting business, that was trying to steal an election.
Honest, Ivanka seems rather smart. Of course, Midlle Eastern money into Jared's businesses will dry up, still, they'll save the furniture.
But, as soon as they are given the chance, Beavis and Butthead will do their best to blow Trump Inc to smithereens and burn all that remains of it to the ground.

kasandra Joe_Hubris a month ago

Oh, Hunter was in on the grift long before Joe became VP. He was brought into MBNA's "Executive Training" program and made a member of the Board of AMTRAC while his daddy was in the Senate.

sentry1 Joe_Hubris a month ago

Is crack his drug of choice? That would surprise me.

former-vet penelopeo a month ago

I'm awake. Whenever there have been allegations of corruption against Trump's family, I've tried to track the facts down (same as I've done with Biden, and before either of them other candidates/Presidents).

There is one difference. My perception of major media the past four years is that with Democrats, they've worked to minimize the damage on any story harmful to the left (Hunters' laptop and Tara Reades' allegations of rape being prime examples), while any story involving Trump they've exaggerated, left important facts out of their coverage, or outright lied. So I believe that if there was any real corruption involving Trump, the MSM would have covered it endlessly, just like they did with the bogus allegations of Trump collaborating with the Russians to steal the election, and many other examples.

I'm not hiding from facts involving Trump family corruption. I just haven't seen anything supporting it yet. I don't know if Jared Kushner was soliciting investment money in the ME; that has been rumor and innuendo by his political enemies with no factual basis so far. Ivanka having a fashion line and protecting it globally seems normal to me (China is a huge market - bigger than the U.S.). Don Jr. and Eric seem like they're doing the same things they were doing before DJT sought office, which is managing a normal business.

Everything about Hunter and Joe's brothers' business activities seem incredibly suspicious to me, on the other hand.

steve j. former-vet a month ago

And there is solid evidence with the laptop, witnesses who have testified (no anonymous ones) and J Biden's recorded comments on Burisma.

danram former-vet a month ago

Right! For example, I'm sure that Ivanka Trump got all of those lucrative licensing deals in China SOLELY because of her amazing financial and business acumen! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

patrick danram a month ago

At least she has an actual product to sell in an actual business

JasonT danram a month ago

She has been in business much longer than her dad has been in politics.

sentry1 danram a month ago

It ain't that hard if you're not afraid to deal with the Chinese.

Shakin' my head sentry1 a month ago

Well,cwe know "covid"Joe isn't shy about doing business with them,bright? He said he had more time with Chinese leaders than any modern president. And, using those chinese connections,he had a virus made, and crazy Nancy Pelosi helped him spread it on her end of the country. They used the impeachment, then the antics of the democratic socialists kicked in, with Nancy calling him fat. And, when he tried to restrict flights from china, they called him xenophobic and racist. Then distracted him more by inviting people to Chinese new year! Before the virus, Trump was unstoppable. With ultra low unemployment rates, and factories going strong, not to mention the legislation"Alzheimer's" Joe got going, causing at least one man twenty years in prison for stealing a shovel! No one really considered Biden to be a serious rival to trump then once they got the virus going, they used the lowering of the presidents ratings and the virtual emptying of every other candidates, plus the virus allowed them to get that mail in voting going, which is easier to tamper with than electronic voting machines. Did you notice,with all the super sick people,we had the highest turnout in history? Before you say it can't be true, another nugget to chew:right before the election, about 90% of the bad things"Dirty" Joe did just know kinda "vanished from social media!! We all know, if it shows up there, it never goes away, right? Wrong when the democratic socialists control them...so in honoring Joe's greatest accomplishment, I give to you....the JOVID virus...it's kinda...catchy, eh?but we need to shout out loud, so he can hear, that everyone knows what he did last year! JOVID! JOVID! Put your hands in the air like you just don't care and, with half the country hating this Biden clown we should be as loud as Metallica in a phone booth!! Don't let them get away with it!!!!

mrlyn60 danram a month ago

Unlike Joe Biden's grifting clan, Trump's offspring had successful enterprises well before their father entered into politics. And yes, in China and a number of international countries also. Like their father, and unlike the Biden's, the Trump family didn't strike it rich from political office. In fact, President Trump donated his entire presidential salary of $400k/yr to charities all four years. Imagine Joe Biden doing that.

Michael Schaefer kenofken a month ago

Real cults are into infanticide a la abortion on demand like the DNC.

sentry1 Michael Schaefer a month ago • edited

It is a sad state we find ourselves in today. Democrats whine about "white privilege" against people who had nothing to do with slavery and in fact lost ancestors fighting it. Meanwhile in a more real and present instance of privilege at the expense of other humans, current vaccinations against Covid19 were developed using cell lines derived from aborted human children. To my knowledge not a single vaccine is being offered that does not rest on this heinous recipe.

sentry1 kenofken a month ago

Buaaaaaahahahahahaha!

M Orban a month ago • edited

- It worked when swiftboating Kerry,
- it worked with Hillary's emails.
...now it fell flat. 2:1. still a winning score.

any good so much winning memes out there?

[Jan 28, 2021] Do Apollo's Ties To Jeffrey Epstein Run Deeper Than Leon Black

Jan 28, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

By now, most people know that Leon Black has stepped down as CEO of Apollo Global Management after ties to paedophile Jeffrey Epstein, including paying the late Epstein $158 million for "tax advice". We documented the details of Black's departure in this piece , out earlier this week.

Now the question becomes: how deep does the rabbit hole continue to go?

Edwin Dorsey, founder of The Bear Cave newsletter , posted an epic Tweet thread (you can follow Dorsey here ) back in December 2020 that - if accurate - shows that more Epstein-related bombs could soon be going off.

"John J. Hannan, Apollo's cofounder and senior partner, donated $166k to Epstein in 1999. Hannan also replaced Epstein on the Black Foundation Board in 2013," he notes.

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Dorsey also notes: "Marc Rowan, another Apollo co-founder that worked at Drexel in the 1980s, met with Epstein in his townhouse in 2015."

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Further, he points out that "one of Epstein's defense attorneys, Gerald Lefcourt, also represented Drexel. Yet another tie between the two entities."

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He also notes that Epstein appears to have hired Black's key employees from Drexel over the years:

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Beller's name also shows up in a subpoena:

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Dorsey concludes: "If Harry Beller, Epstein's longtime notary/accountant, worked closely with Black, Rowan, or Hannan this would take the story to a whole new level. My guess is there is much more that has not been reported yet."

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But thanks to Dorsey's digging, there may very well be more on the way.

Recall, the announcement of Black's departure came as Apollo revealed the conclusion of a review by law firm Dechert into Black's relationship with Epstein, which reportedly "cleared" Black and Apollo of any "involvement in criminal activities" with Epstein.

"I have advised the Apollo board that I will retire as C.E.O. on or before my 70th birthday in July and remain as chairman, " Black said in a statement.

Over the past year and a half, Apollo CEO and founder Leon Black had been caught in a web of allegations that he was "too close" to Epstein after it emerged Black had paid Epstein $158 million after he was released from jail.

And while Black published a letter in which he admitted that "it was a terrible mistake" to associated with Epstein and "like many people I respected, I decided to give Epstein a second chance," Black said last October, it wasn't nearly enough as some asset managers froze their new capital allocations to Apollo. It eventually prompted Apollo to hire Dechert to conduct an "independent review" of Black's dealings with Epstein to clear Black's - and Apollo's - name.

Among the key findings of the Dechert report:

Black "believed, and witnesses generally agreed, that Epstein provided advice that conferred more than $1 billion and as much as $2 billion or more" in tax savings, the report states, which - needless to say - is ridiculous for a person who was already surrounded by the biggest tax experts on earth who also happened to be Black's employees. 11,410 33 NEVE play_arrow


Cable Guy 45 minutes ago

Google Bill Clinton and Leon Black. Have fun. We live in a very corrupt country.....

1Y4NixfGQ4MbMO4f 1 hour ago remove link

Something is rotten in the state of denmark

cookiesanyone 56 minutes ago

EVERYTHING is rotten in the state of Denmark

End Times Prophecy 11 seconds ago

Thirty two years and counting since ABSOLUTELY NOTHING has been done. Even if 100% of the world's no longer existent law enforcement layers were still in business you couldn't be much more criminally incompetent, negligent or complicit than this.

YoodenVranx 8 minutes ago

Black "believed, and witnesses generally agreed, that Epstein provided advice that conferred more than $1 billion and as much as $2 billion or more" i

Sure..by not releasing a few very particular photos, Epstein saved Black well in excess of that.

joyful-feet 28 minutes ago

As if the psychopaths in Washington both D and R care one bit. They support these things. Their lapdog enforcers will do what they tell them to do. There is no justice, they are just crackdown arm to censor and attack those who threaten their power.

Jumanji1959 38 minutes ago

Jeffrey & Gisele say hello from the beaches of Tel Aviv.

[Jan 01, 2021] Search "longest setting speaker of the house of representatives child molester"

Notable quotes:
"... He was speaker while Podesta was Clinton's chief of staff ..."
Jan 01, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Ophiuchus PREMIUM 9 hours ago

It's been a one party country since George H. W. Bush. It took that long to stack congress with a majority compromised on video phucking children.

Search "longest setting speaker of the house of representatives child molester"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Hastert

Imagine that! The third most powerful person in the so-called free world was in power for 8 YEARS. A child molester. The guy was a child molester. Let that sink in. A child molester. Dennis Hastert was a child molester and he was in line to become the president of the United States if something was to happen to the two evil parasites in the White House. HOW MANY CHAINS DID HE HELP to PUT ON THE SO CALLED FREE PEOPLE OF AMERICA? A PHUCKING CHILD MOLESTER. THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE FOR 8 YEARS WAS A CHILD MOLESTER!

blueapples STAFF 1 hour ago

He was speaker while Podesta was Clinton's chief of staff

[Dec 20, 2020] The American ruling class has failed on pretty much every issue of significance for the past several decades

Neoliberals as an occupying force for the country
Notable quotes:
"... The bottom line is the true enemies of the American people are no foreign nation or adversary---the true enemy of the American people are the people who control America. ..."
"... This way of thinking points to a dilemma for the American ruling class. Contrary to a lot of the rhetoric you hear, much of the American ruling class, including the "deep state" is actually quite anti-China. To fully account for this would take longer than I have here. But the nutshell intuitive explanation is that the ruling class, particularly Wall Street, was happy for the past several decades to enrich both themselves and China by destroying the American working class with policies such as "free-trade" and outsourcing. But in many ways the milk from that teat is no more, and now you have an American ruling class much more concerned about protecting their loot from a serious geopolitical competitor (China) than squeezing out the last few drops of milk from the "free trade." ..."
Dec 20, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Bemildred , Dec 19 2020 2:00 utc | 124

This is awesome, he nails the dilemma which our owners are confronted with;

I'll put it this way: It is not as though the American ruling class is intelligent, competent, and patriotic on most important matters and happens to have a glaring blind spot when it comes to appreciating the threat of China. If this were the case, it would make sense to emphasize the threat of China above all else.

But this is not the case. The American ruling class has failed on pretty much every issue of significance for the past several decades. If China were to disappear, they would simply be selling out the country to India, Saudi Arabia, Vietnam, or some other country (in fact they are doing this just to a lesser extent).

Our ruling class has failed us on China because they have failed us on everything. For this reason I believe that there will be no serious, sound policy on China that benefits Americans until there is a legitimate ruling class in the United States. For this reason pointing fingers at the wickedness and danger of China is less useful than emphasizing the failure of the American ruling class. The bottom line is the true enemies of the American people are no foreign nation or adversary---the true enemy of the American people are the people who control America.

This way of thinking points to a dilemma for the American ruling class. Contrary to a lot of the rhetoric you hear, much of the American ruling class, including the "deep state" is actually quite anti-China. To fully account for this would take longer than I have here. But the nutshell intuitive explanation is that the ruling class, particularly Wall Street, was happy for the past several decades to enrich both themselves and China by destroying the American working class with policies such as "free-trade" and outsourcing. But in many ways the milk from that teat is no more, and now you have an American ruling class much more concerned about protecting their loot from a serious geopolitical competitor (China) than squeezing out the last few drops of milk from the "free trade."

The Zürich Interviews - Darren J. Beattie: If Only You Knew How Bad Things Really Are


Grieved , Dec 19 2020 3:12 utc | 129

@102 karlof1 - "By deliberately setting policy to inflate asset prices, the Fed has priced US labor out of a job, while as you report employers sought labor costs that allowed them to remain competitive."

I never heard it said so succinctly and truly as this before. That is what happened isn't it? The worker can't afford life anymore, in this country.

And if the worker can't afford the cost of living - who bears the cause of this, how follows the remedy of this, and what then comes next?

I really appreciate your point of view, which is the only point of view, which is that the designers of the economy, the governors of the economy, have placed the workers of the economy in a position that is simply just not tenable.

No wonder they strive to divide in order to rule - because they have over-reached through greed and killed the worker, who holds up the society.

How long can the worker flounder around blaming others before the spotlight must turn on the employer?

uncle tungsten , Dec 19 2020 3:12 utc | 130

Bemildred #115

You have to remember these people really do think they are better. They do think in class terms even if they avoid that rhetoric in public. The problem is they thought they could control China like they did Japan. That was dumb then and it looks even dumber now. You can see similar dumbness in their lack of grip on any realisitic view of Russia. Provincials really. Rich peasants.

Thank you, they certainly DO think in class terms ALWAYS. + Rich peasants is perfect :))

Thankfully they are blinded by hubris at the same time. The USA destroyed the Allende government in Chile in 1973. After the Nixon Kissinger visit to China in 1979 they assumed they could just pull a color revolution stunt when they deemed it to be the right time. Perhaps in their hubris they thought every Chinese worker would be infatuated with capitalism and growth.

They tested that out in the People Power colour (yellow) revolt in the Filipines in 1986 following a rigged election by Marcos. In 1989 only 16 years after China had been buoyed up with growth and development following the opening to USA capitalism, they tried out the same trick in Tienanmen square in China but those students were up against the ruling party of the entire nation - not the ruling class. BIG MISTAKE. The ruling party of China was solidly backed by the peasant and working class that was finally enjoying some meager prosperity and reward a mere 40 years after the Chinese Communist Party and their parents and grandparents had liberated China from 100 years of occupation, plunder, human and cultural rapine and colonial insult. Then in 2020 it was tried on again in Hong Kong. FAIL.

The hubris of the ruling class and its running dogs is pathetic.

We see the same with Pelosi and the ruling class in the Dimoratss today. They push Biden Harris to the fore, piss on the left and refuse to even hold a vote on Medicare for All in the middle of a pandemic. Meanwhile the USAi ruling class has its running dogs and hangers on bleating that "its wrong tactic, its premature, its whatever craven excuse to avoid exposing the ruling class for what they are - thieves, bereft of compassion, absent any sense of social justice, fakes lurking behind their class supposition.

They come here to the bar with their arrogant hubris, brimming with pointless information some even with emoji glitter stuck on their noses. Not a marxist or even a leftie among them. Still its class that matters and its the ruling class that we must break.

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@102 karlof1 and Grieved | Dec 19 2020 3:12 utc | 129

I did not understand inflate-assets/suppress-workers and forgot to return to it to clear it up. Grieved sent me back to Karlof1. I just got it.

That viewpoint indeed explains method of operation to accomplish the results I observed. When Nixon was forced to default on Bretton Woods use of Gold Exchange Standard* [the USD is as good as gold], then printing fiat solved the problem [threat to US inventory of gold]....but printing fiat [no longer redeemable as a promise convert to gold] became the new problem [no way to extinguish the promises to redeem/pay].

So how to proceed? Aha! Steal from the workers; squeeze 'em, entertain and dazzle 'em!.. Such an elegant solution...slow, certain and hardly noticeable...like slow-boiling frogs...an on-going project as we blog.

Now I'll read Karlof1's link.

[Dec 10, 2020] Prince Andrew's accuser LIED about her age was 'prostitute' paid off by Epstein, court papers show

Dec 05, 2020 | www.rt.com

Prince Andrew's chief accuser was a prostitute who lied about her age and was paid "half a million" by disgraced businessman Jeffrey Epstein, new court papers allege, according to the Telegraph.

Virginia Roberts Giuffre, who is now an advocate for victims of sex trafficking, has claimed she had sex with the royal at least three times in 2001, when she was 17.

Giuffre claims this happened after she met with American financier Jeffrey Epstein, who was charged with procuring underage and young women for powerful clients, together with his close associate Ghislaine Maxwell.

According to the report , Sharon Churcher, the journalist who first revealed that Giuffre was among Epstein's victims, told New York publisher Tony Lyons that Giuffre lied about her age when she met Epstein.

"She took a year off [her age]. Apparently she was 16, not 15, when she was recruited [by Epstein]. But she'd been on the game for about a year then. Epstein's women were – he basically had prostitutes," the paper quoted Churcher as saying about Giuffre, citing a transcript of her conversation with Lyons.

Churcher was quoted as saying that Giuffre was "suing everybody," including Epstein's lawyer, Harvard professor Alan Dershowitz. "The idea is that he will then pay her off. This really is blackmail," she said, adding that Giuffre would "just move on to other people" and that Epstein had "paid her off."

"She had settled with Epstein. She'd taken half a million, I think it was."

The journalist also reportedly suggested that Giuffre may have produced fake emails that were later presented as having been written by Churcher.

In a comment to the Telegraph, Giuffre's lawyer, Chuck Cooper, said: "We are looking forward to taking Ms. Churcher's deposition under oath."

Prince Andrew has denied ever having sex with Giuffre. He admitted to having been friends with Epstein but claimed he had no idea at the time that the businessman was involved in sex trafficking. In 2001, the prince was photographed wrapping his hand around Giuffre's waist in Maxwell's London apartment.

Epstein was found dead in August 2019 inside a prison cell in New York, where he was awaiting trial. Maxwell was arrested in July and charged with helping Epstein to procure underage girls for sex trafficking.

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[Dec 06, 2020] Bill Clinton Couldn t Stay Away From Jeffrey Epstein, Visited Pedo Island According To Former Chief Aide

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... Band said he had no idea about Epstein's sex crimes back then but got enough bad vibes that he advised Clinton to end the relationship. But Clinton continued to socialize with Epstein and take his money. In 2006 Epstein donated $25,000 to the Clinton Foundation. Clinton made more than two dozen trips on Epstein's jet around this time, Epstein's flight logs show. In January 2003, according to Band, Clinton visited Epstein's private Caribbean island, Little St. James. Band said it was one of the few trips he declined to go on in his time with Clinton. - Vanity Fair ..."
"... Chelsea Clinton had a relationship with Epstein and his alleged co-conspirator in an underage sex trafficking ring, Ghislaine Maxwell. ..."
"... Chelsea had ties to Epstein and Maxwell, Band said; he showed me a photo of Bill and Chelsea posing with Epstein and Maxwell at the King of Morocco's wedding. Chelsea remained friends with Maxwell for years after the press revealed Maxwell was a close associate of Epstein's. For instance, Chelsea invited Maxwell to her 2010 wedding at the Brooke Astor estate in Rhinebeck, New York, after Epstein had pleaded guilty in Florida to procuring sex from a minor. - Vanity Fair ..."
"... "Ghislaine had access to yachts and nice homes. Chelsea needed that ," said Band. ..."
"... Thanks again to WikiLeaks, we also know that Band was soliciting donations for Clinton through his PR and investment firm, Teneo in an sordid example of "pay for play" which most of the mainstream media refused to cover - which he worried about in an email to John Podesta, saying: " If this story gets out, we are screwed ." ..."
"... In 2011, Band says he instructed Bill Clinton's staffers to ban Maxwell 'from all Clintonworld events' to try and drive a wedge between Chelsea and Ghislaine . ..."
Dec 04, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Bill Clinton's former top aide and Chelsea Clinton nemesis Doug Band has told Vanity Fair that former President Bill Clinton did visit Jeffrey Epstein's infamous "pedo island" in January 2003, and that he was unable to push Epstein out of Clinton's orbit since they flew to Africa together in 2002 aboard the the pedophile's (Epstein's) private 727, dubbed the "Lolita Express."

Band said he had no idea about Epstein's sex crimes back then but got enough bad vibes that he advised Clinton to end the relationship. But Clinton continued to socialize with Epstein and take his money. In 2006 Epstein donated $25,000 to the Clinton Foundation. Clinton made more than two dozen trips on Epstein's jet around this time, Epstein's flight logs show. In January 2003, according to Band, Clinton visited Epstein's private Caribbean island, Little St. James. Band said it was one of the few trips he declined to go on in his time with Clinton. - Vanity Fair

Band - who revealed the Clinton Foundation's 'for-profit' activity and accused Chelsea Clinton of tapping Foundation funds to pay for her wedding (known only because of WikiLeaks) - also says Chelsea Clinton had a relationship with Epstein and his alleged co-conspirator in an underage sex trafficking ring, Ghislaine Maxwell.

Chelsea had ties to Epstein and Maxwell, Band said; he showed me a photo of Bill and Chelsea posing with Epstein and Maxwell at the King of Morocco's wedding. Chelsea remained friends with Maxwell for years after the press revealed Maxwell was a close associate of Epstein's. For instance, Chelsea invited Maxwell to her 2010 wedding at the Brooke Astor estate in Rhinebeck, New York, after Epstein had pleaded guilty in Florida to procuring sex from a minor. - Vanity Fair

"Ghislaine had access to yachts and nice homes. Chelsea needed that ," said Band.

Bill Clinton walks with Doug Band

Band notably created the now-defunct Clinton Global Initiative, which has helped to raise $74 billion for Clinton global charities, according to Newsmax . Thanks again to WikiLeaks, we also know that Band was soliciting donations for Clinton through his PR and investment firm, Teneo in an sordid example of "pay for play" which most of the mainstream media refused to cover - which he worried about in an email to John Podesta, saying: " If this story gets out, we are screwed ."

In response to Band's claims about Chelsea, a family spokesperson said that " Chelsea was on friendly terms with Maxwell because of a mutual friend (Gateway computer founder Ted Waitt) and only took one yacht trip with Maxwell in 2009: "It wasn't until 2015 that Chelsea became aware of the horrific allegations against Ghislaine Maxwell and she hopes that all the victims find justice."

In 2011, Band says he instructed Bill Clinton's staffers to ban Maxwell 'from all Clintonworld events' to try and drive a wedge between Chelsea and Ghislaine .

"I knew in telling everyone to stop including Ghislaine that Chelsea and her father would be very angry. It made it harder for them to justify being close to her," said Band.

[Nov 23, 2020] Ghislaine Maxwell 'constantly' snapped PHOTOS of topless girls at pedo Epstein's mansion, kept pictures in album -- RT USA New

Nov 23, 2020 | www.rt.com

Ghislaine Maxwell was a voracious photographer who "constantly" snapped photos of topless girls at Jeffrey Epstein's mansion and kept the pictures in an album, according to freshly released court documents.

A former butler at Epstein's Florida home told lawyers that Maxwell was an "avid" photographer who routinely took photos of scantily clad girls with a "special camera".

Most of the images were taken poolside and were of "topless" young women, which Maxwell would later store in an album she kept on her desk, according to former employee John Alessi.

"She was very avid with photographs," Alessi said in federal court papers unsealed on Saturday. "She had this high-tech camera. She was constantly taking photographs."

Alessi said most of the girls were European and some were American.

RT © Giuffre v. Maxwell, Southern District of New York

British socialite Maxwell is in a New York jail awaiting trial on multiple counts of procuring girls as young as 14 for Epstein to abuse, and of allegedly abusing some of the girls herself. The 58-year-old has denied all the charges she faces.

Alessi's statements to lawyers were made in June 2016 and were unsealed by a judge on Saturday. They relate to a settled defamation case between Maxwell and Virginia Roberts Giuffre, who claims she was coerced into having sex with Prince Andrew from the British royal family.

The FBI wants to interview Prince Andrew but he has denied all claims of wrongdoing. A lawyer representing Epstein's victims branded it "outrageous" that a year has passed since the queen of England's second-eldest son publicly promised to cooperate with the US authorities.

Lisa Bloom called on the royal to submit to an interview with the FBI, saying "it is never too late to do the right thing."

Disgraced businessman Epstein was found dead in a New York jail in August 2019 while awaiting trial on federal sex trafficking charges. His death was officially ruled a suicide, and intense speculation has surrounded the circumstances.


TheRealElDee 6 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 02:03 PM

Even Maxwell is still a fall guy for the many people who used Epstein's services. People like Alan Dershowitz (who benefitted from the deal he made Epstein MORE than Epstein did) and well known politicians who are said to include a British Prime Minister (they don't actually say it's Blair) and other well known US Clintons called Bill. There had been no appetite under Obama to pursue this and as Biden is about to take the reins I'm sure that this will not be pressed as hard as it should be. I still think Maxwell will be convicted, but it will be left there, as though she obtained the girls purely for Epstein to abuse and not any of the hundreds of others who have walked away due to Dershowitz's deal. Enough money and you have the power to buy your way out of anything..
neeon9 TheRealElDee 3 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 04:44 PM
There was a lot of Jewish secret service and CIA involved as well, blackmailing with honey traps.
Cosmicwaffles 10 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 09:51 AM
I'm sure trump loved them! He, like many celebrities and politicians, was good friends with epstein. In 2009, when an employee leaked epstein's personal address book it showed multiple phone numbers for trump and his wife. Additionally, was uncovered that he left two phone messages for epstein in November 2004 on a message pad obtained by investigators from epstein's home. Republicans and democrats alike were and still are involved shows how broken the system is
Big Tex 9 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 10:42 AM
We are tired of hearing the Prince Andrew stories. Tell us what is happening to all of the Americans who did the same thing. Where are the stories about Bill Clinton, Harvey Weinstein, Les Wexner, Kevin Spacey, and Bill Gates?
Cryptoid 34 minutes ago 22 Nov, 2020 07:45 PM
Female pedophiles are very,very common but mostly they fly under the radar.

[Nov 07, 2020] These three people Wexner/Epstein/Maxwell worked as a team - that is clear from all the photographs and their associations let alone the testimonies and evidence.

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uncle tungsten , Nov 6 2020 22:22 utc | 149

On Trumps friend: Many among the USAi elite have been maliciously trapped by the Wexner/Epstein/Maxwell foreign agent team. Les Wexner - not yet arrested for his role - was Epsteins mentor and is chairman of L Brands, which owns retailers including Victoria's Secret. There are allegations circling of the use of Wexners air services company to import children from eastern europe.

Wexner purchased the New York mansion for $13M and appears to have gifted it to Epstein fully wired for sound and video. The New York mansion is currently valued at over $80M. The New York Times reports the property was formally transferred in 2011 from a trust controlled by Wexner & Epstein to a Virgin Islands-based entity controlled by Epstein.

These three people Wexner/Epstein/Maxwell worked as a team - that is clear from all the photographs and their associations let alone the testimonies and evidence.

The entrapment of the elite is either direct through child prostitution entrapment or by association as more and more images are revealed of the elite set joyfully seeking to be photographed alongside the Wexner/Epstein/Maxwell gliterati. Maxwell managed a stable of photographers and journalists to get their happy snaps in leading New York mags. Take a lesson in all of this from Whitney Webb at Unlimited hangout. So Trump and his over-hyped ego could not possible have resisted the joint photographs but they prove NOTHING other than pathetic gullibility. (If you can bear to analyse it go to Amazing Polly on utoob as she has mapped the journalists and the web of entrapment that Maxwell used to manage them. beware AP is a Qanon mouthpiece so you will suffer some.)

The same goes for a vast tranche of the USA elite -guilty by association! That has them all neatly neutered and controllable ;)

On your last point. I don't see how you arrived at that conclusion. I read b's general position as being that both Trump and Biden are grossly inadequate for the task.

As for later calls to have your post removed: I totally oppose that as your post is provocative and we are all entitled to wrangle with b and challenge his posts if we could be bothered. I come here for information AND mostly discussion among the barflies.

[Nov 05, 2020] Exclusive- How the Bidens Made Off With Millions in Chinese Cash -

Nov 05, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

Exclusive: How The Bidens Made Off With Millions In Chinese Cash

New documents show that as regulators closed in, Hunter struck a fresh deal with his Chinese partners World Food Program USA Board Chairman Hunter Biden speaks at the World Food Program USA's Annual McGovern-Dole Leadership Award Ceremony at Organization of American States on April 12, 2016 in Washington, DC. (Photo by Paul Morigi/Getty Images for World Food Program USA)

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ARTHUR BLOOM

The Senate's report on Hunter Biden's activities released several months ago, which was spun by the New York Times as having shown "no evidence of wrongdoing," nevertheless had several important gaps in the business activities of the troubled son of the former vice president.

Draft legal documents and 2017 bank records obtained by The American Conservative show at least $5 million was transferred to Hunter and Jim Biden from companies associated with the Chinese conglomerate CEFC, with millions coming after the company had come under legal scrutiny both in the United States and China.

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CEFC official Patrick Ho was arrested in November 2017 and charged by the Southern District of New York with corruption, and was convicted last year. In addition, on or about March 1, 2018, CEFC Chairmen Ye Jianming was arrested in China for economic crimes and hasn't been seen since. CEFC assets in China were seized by Chinese state agencies. In the U.S., major beneficiaries were Hunter and Jim Biden.

What the following documents show is that as regulators moved to seize CEFC's assets, Hunter Biden attempted to take control of the company founded in partnership with it. Instead, after striking a deal with two CEFC employees in the U.S., the funds were disbursed over the next six months to his and his uncle's companies until it was all gone, in total at least $5 million.

2017 Bank Records

On August 5, 2017, the Bidens and CEFC entered into a 50-50 limited liability company agreement (Hudson West III) between Owasco, Hunter Biden's company, and Hudson West V (CEFC). The Sep 22, 2020 report from the Senate Judiciary Committee (the "HGSAC Report") surmised an agreement like this, but a copy can be seen, for the first time here . In early 2017, CEFC was ranked as one of the top 500 corporations in the world.

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Hudson West III set up two bank accounts with Cathay Bank, with the first set up on or about August 5. A company associated with CEFC deposited $5 million into the account on August 8; no contribution was made by the Bidens. On Nov 2, 2017, CEFC Limited deposited a further $1 million into the account. (Subsequently, the Hudson West III account shows a wire of $1 million back to CEFC Limited on Nov 21, followed a few days later on Nov 27 by a credit memo for $999,938. The HGSAC Report interpreted the Nov 21 wire transfer as a return of the $1 million, but appear to have omitted consideration of the credit memo apparently reversing the return). The net result is that CEFC and its affiliates deposited almost exactly $6 million into Hudson West III in 2017.

In the 5 months between August 8 and Dec 31, 2017, Hudson West III disbursed almost $1.6 million to Owasco (Hunter Biden) in wire transfers and credit card binges by the Bidens. The transfers appear to have been structured as $165,000 in monthly payments, plus two other payments of $400,000 and $220,387.

Collated screengrabs from Hudson West III bank statements showing payments to Owasco (Wells Fargo Clearing Services LLC)

The HGSAC Report reported on the $99,000 credit card spree by the Bidens in early September 2017, but, in addition to that spree, there was an additional $77,700 in credit card sprees, making a total of $176,700 for the five month period.

Figure 2. Screengrab from Hudson West III bank statements showing credit card disbursements

Total expenditures by Hudson West III in the five months were $1,947,439, of which $1,522,000 went to the Bidens (via Owasco and credit cards). Hudson West III bank accounts contained more than $4 million in cash at the end of 2017.

March 2018 Deal

Shortly after the arrest of CEFC Chairman Ye Jianming on March 1, 2018, there appears to have been a rolling seizure of CEFC assets. Even with the profligate spending by the Bidens, Hudson West III would still have had about $3.5 million in cash in March.

On March 26, a Chinese-American employee who was fiercely loyal to Hunter suggested to him that Hunter and the two CEFC employees in the U.S. (Mervyn Yan and Kevin Dong) figure out a way to appropriate the Hudson West III cash before it was frozen by Chinese regulators or receivers:

you guys (You/Mervyn/Kevin) figure out a way to have the money transferred to the right U.S. account before any restriction levied by Chinese regulators or appointed new boss in charge of manage the enterprise Ye left behind.

In fact, Hunter had already begun the process of appropriating Hudson West III cash before a receiver could arrive. On March 18, Hunter's lawyer sent a letter to Mervyn Yan proposing that Hudson West V (the proximate CEFC entity) assign its interest in Hudson West III to Owasco (Hunter), a transaction which would give control of all the cash to Hunter (see here , and here ).

On or about March 30, 2018, Hunter and the two Chinese appear to have worked out a different arrangement. Among the newly available documents are redlined versions of an assignment agreement in which Hudson West V assigned its 50% interest in Hudson West III to Coldharbour Capital Inc., with Kevin Dong the proposed signatory for Hudson West V, Mervyn Yan for Coldharbour Capital and Hunter signatory for Owasco's consent to the assignment.

The HGSAC Report does not appear to have had access to these documents: they noted that ownership of Hudson West III at some point was 50% Coldharbour, but does not appear to have been aware of the prior ownership of this interest by Hudson West V or the assignment to Coldharbour in late March 2018.

During the next six months, the cash was completely drained into the accounts of Owasco and Coldharbour, spent on consulting fees and expenses. According to the HGSAC Report, total payments from Hudson West III to Owasco amount to an astonishing $4,790,375 by September 2018, when the Hudson West III accounts were totally depleted. In November 2018, Hudson West III was dissolved by Owasco and Coldharbour.

From the 2017 bank records, we know that $1,444,000 had been transferred to Owasco in 2017 (excluding direct payment of credit card sprees); thus, transfers to Owasco in the first eight months of 2018 were approximately $3,345,000.

The assignment of Hudson West V's interest in Hudson West III to Coldharbour and the dissipation of cash to the Hudson West III managers would probably not have stood up to a determined receiver appointed by the Chinese parent company, but there doesn't appear to have been any attempt by the parent company to stop or control the dissipation of Hudson West III's cash reserves.

Lion Hall (Jim Biden) Invoices

Included in the newly available material are invoices to Owasco and, separately, to Hudson West III from Jim Biden doing business as Lion Hall Group. The HGSAC Report stated that, between Aug 14, 2017 and Aug 3, 2018, Owasco sent 20 wires totaling $1,398,999 to Lion Hall Group. The newly available documents show that Jim Biden charged Owasco $82,500 per month as a "monthly retainer for international business development":

Readers will recall that Hudson West III bank statements showed regular monthly payments of $165,000 for the last 5 months of 2017. The corollary is that Hunter split this regular monthly payment from Hudson West III 50:50 with Jim Biden. The HGSAC Report notes that the payments to Lion Hall Group had been flagged by Owasco's bank (Wells Fargo) for potential criminal activity. The new documents contain an inquiry email from Wells Fargo compliance, together with a reply from Hunter which was unresponsive on the key compliance questions. By the time that Wells Fargo raised its compliance concerns, the Hudson West III cash had been exhausted and with it, presumably the stream of 50-50 payments to Uncle Jim.

As noted above, in addition to the regular $165,000 monthly payments, Owasco received other large transfers in 2017 and presumably in 2018. It is not known whether Uncle Jim split these 50-50 as well, or whether this was a side transaction by Hunter.

Concurrent with this flood of money from CEFC, Hunter continued to receive a lavish stipend from Burisma. Nonetheless, by the end of 2018, Hunter had hundreds of thousands in tax liens. In March 2019, despite having received millions from Chinese business interests, Hunter even had to plead with former partner Jeffrey Cooper to email him $100 for gas so that he wouldn't be stranded on the highway. ABOUT THE AUTHOR Arthur Bloom is editor of The American Conservative online. He was previously deputy editor of the Daily Caller and a columnist for the Catholic Herald. He holds masters degrees in urban planning and American studies from the University of Kansas. His work has appeared in The Washington Post, The Washington Times, The Spectator (UK), The Guardian, Quillette, The American Spectator , Modern Age, and Tiny Mix Tapes. email

[Nov 03, 2020] Did Hunter Biden Help Facilitate NBCUniversal's Beijing Theme Park- -

Nov 03, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

An email from the famous hard drive indicates a Chinese state-owned company wanted an introduction from Rosemont Seneca Hunter Biden, from ABC News Nightline one year ago ( Source )

NOVEMBER 3, 2020

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ARTHUR BLOOM

Back in March, I wrote a column in these pages about the Chinese business entanglements of major media companies in the U.S. By far the most seriously entangled is Comcast, the owner of NBCUniversal, parent company of NBC and MSNBC, which is in the process of opening a Universal Studios theme park in Beijing.

Portions of Hunter Biden's hard drive have now been shared with TAC. On the drive is an email from president of Rosemont Seneca Eric Schwerin, a company co-founded by Hunter and John Kerry's stepson, saying that Chinese state-owned enterprise CITIC was hoping they would make introductions with Universal employees and propose the Beijing theme park.

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"They'd like an introduction to Universal (Comcast) as they'd like to open a Universal Studios China theme park outside of Beijing," Schwerin writes. "As I said, that one should be easy via Melissa Mayfield/David Cohen [two Comcast executives]."

"She said they'd like to pay us for our help on these -- I told her we'd discuss whether we could do that -- but were sure we could figure something out even if it was success fee based on the US side but that I would talk to you," Schwerin added.

To what extent this was followed up on is at this point unclear. However, what it indicates is that a company founded by two Democratic political scions was willing to facilitate a deal for their friendliest media network, a network that has been unrelentingly hostile to Trump and more or less completely ignored recent Hunter Biden disclosures. If Hunter helped facilitate a sweet deal like this, it's only fair that they scratch his back too.

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[Nov 02, 2020] Hunter Biden's 'Laptop From Hell' Was National Security Nightmare -

Nov 02, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Hunter Biden's 'Laptop From Hell' Was National Security Nightmare


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Hunter Biden's abandoned laptop contained a 'treasure trove of top-secret material, including his father's private emails and mobile phone numbers,' and was protected by the password "Hunter02", according to the Daily Mail .

The younger Biden's MacBook Pro was full of 'classic blackmail material' between compromising sexual material and the private information of not only the Bidens, but also Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Hunter's passport, driver's license, social security and credit card numbers were also on the laptop, which revealed that he spent $21,000 on a 'live cam' porn website (while claiming he was too broke to pay his stripper baby-mama child support?).

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The material, none of which was encrypted or protected by anything as basic as two-factor authentication, includes:

The article does not that while Hunter may have used his family name to boost deals with Chinese and Ukrainian firms, there is nothing implicating Joe Biden in any wrongdoing (just a massive like that he 'never spoke with Hunter' about his business dealings).

"'It's a data breach and dangerous to have this type of material floating around," one former police commander told the Mail . "For someone prominent, there is not only a risk of great reputational damage but also a risk of blackmail should the material fall into the wrong hand s."

Hunter's laptop was filled with 11 gigabytes of material covering the period from when his father was Vice President, to when Hunter dropped it off at a Mac Store in Wilmington, Delaware. wee-weed up , 10 hours ago

"What laptop?" -- MSM

Macho Latte , 10 hours ago

The Progs are now using the MSM to broadcast the Biden corruption scandal so that they can use it to justify elevating Queen Kam El Tow to POTUS very soon after the Biden inauguration. He'll be gone before April 1. Queen Kami will give him a pardon within minutes of seizing power. All investigations into the Criminal Elite will be disappeared and all evidence will be destroyed.

Progs don't take a dump, son, without a plan.
- Admiral Painter

systemsplanet , 9 hours ago

FBI was planning on using Hunter's laptop as Biden's control file.

ImGumbydmmt , 5 hours ago

And they are BOTH (Hunter and Hitlery) still walking out and about the world as free people.

Sessions?

Barr?

Durham?

Wray?

Riiiiight.

ballot box?

Cartridge box is all thats left folks

Kan , 4 hours ago

Clinton crime family is still doing the 501.3c TAX dodge for trillions of dollars from the gates foundation and over 100 universities in the jUSSA.... many other fun things.

BaNNeD oN THe RuN , 9 hours ago

Exactly, plus there is no way that the NSA did not have the IP and MAC address of every computer that had ever downloaded every email to and from Hunter Biden. The "Big Guy" had been on the Senate Intelligence Committee and already knew this which is why he insisted on verbal directions only.

What "voters" don't fully understand is that elected representatives are the first line of "useful idiots" for deep state.

BGen. Jack Ripper , 10 hours ago

The FBI and CIA are the real national security nightmare

Vivekwhu , 10 hours ago

Spot on! Good luck in claiming back the US Republic from these traitors at the top. This must start this Tuesday or it is all done for.

Macho Latte , 9 hours ago

Too many people succumb to the psychological warfare that has been raging against us for 5 decades. It is very difficult to break free from the indoctrination regardless of intelligence or education. The backbone of the DemonRat organization is a very strong emotion that overcomes all logic and reason. It is HATE. Today it is called by the gentle name of Identity Politics. Nevertheless, it is still a hate based psychological manipulation. Women need to hate men. Blacks need to hate everyone. Whites need to hate themselves. Everybody needs to Hate Trump.

Argon1 , 5 hours ago

They have power, they are corrupt, but such things are not absolute. Which is why people are made examples of in law (pour encourager les autres ), but enforcement is minimal. Number of Federal employees 2 million, population 330 million, number of FBI employees 35,000 of which we can say only a 3rd will be available some are office staff, sick and others have long term commitments. So these riots would have meant FBI would have been deployed even if not used etc or would have been at the Mexican border since the wall closing has allowed a much tougher border regime.

Proudly Unaffiliated , 6 hours ago

As represented by FBIbook and DNCIA.

LetThemEatRand , 10 hours ago

Countdown to charges being brought against everyone who ever possessed the hard drives.... Certainly more likely than anyone with the last name Biden getting in trouble. MSM has already declared that there is no evidence that Joe had any involvement in Hunter's business deals, which is demonstrably false. There's the "Big Guy" emails; there's the fact that these foreign entities kept paying Hunter millions for his "name," and they would not have continued to do so if they were getting nothing in return; there's the fact that Bobulinksi has proof that Joe attended meeting with Hunter's employers; and that's just scratching the surface with what we know now.

ponchoramic , 10 hours ago

The laptop/ hard drives were abandoned for more than 90 days, transffering ownership to the shop owner, by law!

hashr_syndicate , 2 hours ago

@ Caloot

Crack is not purified, it is just changed to a base form which lowers it melting point allowing someone to smoke it, hence the term free base. Smoking allows for a faster uptake into the body giving more or a rush. The only way you can get the same rush with coke is to shoot it up. The closest you could come your statement of it being true is to perform an acid/base extraction by turning it into crack and then filtering contaminants and then using an acid to drop the carbon back off and returning it to cocaine.

cabystander , 6 hours ago

To quote Schumer (+/-): the intelligence agencies have six ways from Sunday of getting you.

That can be extended to the Government, in general. In spades.

Gobble D. Goop , 9 hours ago

Apparantly, C. Wray has an interest in keeping the laptop suppressed:

https://www.infowars.com/posts/the-fbi-snow-job-on-bidens-laptops/

HardlyZero , 9 hours ago

Yes. Wray and Barr.

https://truepundit.com/exclusive-fbi-dir-wray-profited-from-hunter-bidens-illegal-china-russia-kickback-deal-is-this-why-the-fbi-covered-up-hunters-laptop/

radical-extremist , 10 hours ago

"This has all been debunked and we're not going to dignify it by responding to it."

- The Democrat News Media Complex

Floki_Ragnarsson , 9 hours ago

The FBI has NEVER had America's interests at heart. Ruby Ridge ring a bell?

invention13 , 9 hours ago

No, the FBI has it's own interests at heart. I would love to see the files that J. Edgar had on everyone in Washington.

edotabin , 9 hours ago

Why are you surprised? You are dealing with a culture so corrupt, so rabid, so evil.... These people smell worse, are dirtier than and are harder to remove than than 6 months of cat urine in an abandoned house.

Anyone who has dealt with cat urine in abandoned and severely neglected houses knows how extensive the steps required are to remove the rot/stench.

Hint: When you open the doors and windows and run outside, you can still smell it 30-40 yards away. I've even had to use a jackhammer at an angle to chisel it out from the concrete slab.

TBT or not TBT , 7 hours ago

The D after the name is the tell. It's a party of racketeers, pervs and grifters seeking more power. The very best of them are merely amoral cynical AF Machiavellians.

Vivekwhu , 10 hours ago

And the FBI kept all this secret while Trump was being impeached over a phonecall to the Ukrainian president? Why? So they could blackmail and control another US President, as in this vile corrupt Biden creature, when he was quietly elected next week? This is the only possible explanation for Wray and his band of corrupt leaders.

Just how rotten is the FBI, uh, the premier law enforcement agency in the world???

radical-extremist , 9 hours ago

"We'll be prepared to issue comments on Hunter Biden's laptops after the election. For right now our focus is on dangerous white supremacist militias and hate crime hoaxes."

- C. Wray, Director of the FBI

J J Pettigrew , 9 hours ago

And why did Christopher Wray sit on this for ten months?

Comey protected Hillary

Wray protects Biden

novictim , 9 hours ago

"'It's a data breach and dangerous to have this type of material floating around," one former police commander told the Mail . "For someone prominent, there is not only a risk of great reputational damage but also a risk of blackmail should the material fall into the wrong hand s."

Show of hands:

Who thinks that the CCP spy chief that the Bidens were in business with did not already have all of this blackmail material?

The Bidens kept the secrets from the USA and even screwed that up. But the Ukrainians, Russians and Chinese Communist Party had all of this all along. That is why China Joe is such a great alternative to Trump for them. China Joe is totally and completely compromised and millions have already voted for him. Which would be funny if not for the insane Deep State that also seems to be owned by the Communists.

radical-extremist , 9 hours ago

Biden is in no way compromised because any evidence the CCP goes public with will never be reported on, except by maybe Fox News.

cjones1 , 9 hours ago

Mueller was FBI Director when both Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were committing national security violations and money grubbing, "pay to play" diplomacy - 2012 election interference by the IRS, etc., too!

This "Deep State" complicity in and enabling of such corruption runs several levels deep in our intelligence and law enforcement agencies.

J J Pettigrew , 7 hours ago

Comey protected Hillary

Wray protects Biden

and as luck would have it...both Democrats.

And the attacks on the GOP elected President...fake and falsified with the assistance of......

those who protected Biden and Hillary.

Remarkable for an apolitical entity such as the FBI.

Shut. It. Down. , 9 hours ago

Stripper mama's lawyer needs to file a subpoena for access to the hard drive.

No telling what assets Hunter was hiding while trying to weasel out of child support.

Should be good for another couple mil.

LetThemEatRand , 10 hours ago

Note that the FBI investigation into Hunter is for "money laundering," as opposed to anything involving public corruption or influence peddling. That tells me that they are carefully avoiding anything that would involve Joe. And we all know that a year or two from now or whenever this story settles down, there will be a page 8 newspaper article about how the FBI found insufficient evidence of any criminal activity by Hunter to justify charges.

They keep using the same script, and it always ends in a twist ending involving anyone you've ever heard of doing nothing wrong other than "poor judgment."

quanttech , 8 hours ago

Biden values - bomb children in countries that never attacked us. tell supporters they're organic, grass-fed love bombs.

Trump values - bomb children in countries that never attacked us. tell supporters we're withdrawing from the wars while INCREASING the bombings.

American values - duuuuuuuh i dont care as long as inocent children are being bombed. duuuuuuuh i'm so sad they cancelled keeping up with the khardashians. duuuuuuuuuuuh i need a chicken sandwhich but i'm too fat to get out of my lazyboy duuuuuh

SummerSausage , 9 hours ago

CIA trailed Hunter to brothels and drug dens when he was overseas. They knew.

Foreign countries sucked electronic information off Hunters computers and phones when he was overseas. They knew.

Jill and Joe kept Hunter away from children. They knew.

Kerry's step son was in business with hunter. They knew.

Obama spied on everybody. He knew.

American media covered up for Hunter & Joe for years. They knew.

Looks like normal Americans were the last to know.

J S Bach , 9 hours ago

"There is not only a risk of great reputational damage but also a risk of blackmail should the material fall into the wrong hands."

Yep... and with this knowledge... ANYONE who votes for Joe Biden is a traitor to this country whether they like it or not.

From Dante's "Inferno"...

The ninth (deepest) circle of hell is reserved for traitors...

"9). Treachery: The deepest circle of Hell, where Satan resides. As with the last two circles, this one is further divided, into four rounds. The first is Caina, named after the biblical Cain, who murdered his brother. This round is for traitors to family. The second, Antenora -- from Antenor of Troy, who betrayed the Greeks -- is reserved for political/national traitors. The third is Ptolomaea for Ptolemy, son of Abubus, who is known for inviting Simon Maccabaeus and his sons to dinner and then murdering them. This round is for hosts who betray their guests; they are punished more harshly because of the belief that having guests means entering into a voluntary relationship, and betraying a relationship willingly entered is more despicable than betraying a relationship born into. The fourth round is Judecca, after Judas Iscariot, who betrayed Christ. This round is reserved for traitors to their lords/benefactors/masters. As in the previous circle, the subdivisions each have their own demons and punishments."

Not to take all of this literally, but it shows the wisdom of our ancestors and the intense acrimony they felt towards this most nefarious act.

freedommusic , 7 hours ago

Imagine what was on Weiners laptop.

So let's review boys and girls.

The FBI now has Anthony Weiner's and Hunter Biden's laptops.

If Law enforcement and the DOJ do NOT do the jobs they swore an oath to, then who does that leave to uphold the Constitution and Rule of Law?

Chew on that for a moment...

jeff montanye , 7 hours ago

don't forget seth rich's phone and laptop never looked at by either the d.c. police or the fbi.

corruption in washington d.c. is like the hindus' turtle akupara on the back of a larger turtle, on the back of . . .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down

UnicornTears , 9 hours ago

National pulse has the story.

Christopher Wray is directly implicated in the laptop emails. He recieved a 14% stake in Rosneft shares. Arrest everyone in DC and get some rope.

OpenEyes , 8 hours ago

Yes, it's coming out that Wray was actually on the other side of the table in Hunter's negotiation for his Chinese "chairman" in the deal to buy into the Russian energy company. Wray was working for the law firm representing the Russian energy company (he made millions there before coming into the FBI). Not only was Wray aware of the crime, he was a player in that deal. No wonder the laptop, and all other evidence, has sat untouched in a dark vault at the FBI for almost a year.

I'm hoping that Trump fires Wray, Haspel and Barr on Wednesday regardless of the election outcome. Then I'm hoping that Wray is facing an indigtment before Christmas.

Floki_Ragnarsson , 9 hours ago

What REALLY sinks the Bidens is having to account for all of that cash that they a) never paid taxes on and b) Potato Head Joe NEVER declared on his financial disclosure forms as required by law!

BinAnunnaki , 8 hours ago

They both go to jail for not registering under FARA.

Just like Michael Flinn

OllieHalsall , 9 hours ago

Giving evidence to a criminal organisation like the FBI is like asking Joe Biden to babysit your 11 year old daughter.

You wouldn't do it would you!

American2 , 9 hours ago

Immediately, ask for Bill Clinton, or Jeffery Epstein as his replacement.

Someone Else , 8 hours ago

Landslide for Trump!

desertboy , 9 hours ago

Anybody who could think the Biden's would be played by the CCCP in China business dealings is a conspiracy theorist.

And everyone knows Joe Biden is too smart to be co-opted by his son in his dealings, anyway.

(straight-face delivery)

Nunny , 9 hours ago

Bada-bing

UnicornTears , 9 hours ago

"Never underestimate Joe's ability to screw things up"

The MagicNegro

Ision , 9 hours ago

I wonder if Hunter ever held a government job, or appointment, which involved the handling of classified information? I have no idea.

But, exactly how did Hunter get TS information on his computer?

No matter. The National Security Act of 1947 applies. Since it does, multiple felonies have been committed. How many people are involved in the commission of these felonies, besides Hunter?

Just like Hillary's illegal servers...the existence of which automatically gives rise to dozens of felonies...Hunter's felonies are automatic with the existence of ANY TS classified information, found outside of officially controlled, and authorized, locations.

If anyone planned to deliberately deliver such information to unauthorized individuals, additional felonies are involved.

There is simply no excuse, or defense.

I say this as a former NSA field agent. It appears Hunter should be in prison, along with Hillary.

MTGOPLAYER , 9 hours ago

According to the FBI, as long as his intentions were pure, no crime was committed.

vasilievich , 9 hours ago

I can't begin to describe how shocked and angry I am - and I've been involved to the extent of risk to my life.

I've had one US Army person say to me: You were in...!?

Invert This MM , 7 hours ago

The crime families like to keep together. There are pictures on the laptop of Hunter doing Malia Obama. Her cocaine riddled credit card was in the picture. Hunter has a tattoo of the Finger Lakes on his back. That region is suspected of being an area heavy into child trafficking. These people are sick.

9.0onthericterscale , 9 hours ago

Demlibs keep screeching out 'Russia Russia Russia!' like they have Tourettes Syndrome.

They can't help it anymore .It's so far past the point of meaningfulness you gotta feel sorry for the little +ards.

Mzhen , 9 hours ago

Hunter took three laptops to the repair shop. And they were all wet . Which appears to indicate a deliberate attempt by someone to destroy the data. Before there were second thoughts. This period of time coincided with the final breakup with Hallie.

almostnuts , 9 hours ago

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Hmmmm. Hiding assets from child support, all those cozy names with phone numbers attached, passport info, ss info, 21,000$ in **** sites. This isn't going to well huh Robert? Anyhow the fbi has you covered, but your drug habit is going to kill you because you are a liability to a lot of people, places, and things. From now on Robert i'd beware of pretty women in a foreign land and don't sleep in the same place every night. You may be well connected, but you're marked for disposal. Tah, tah, be reading about you.

DavidJoshimisk , 7 hours ago

So if I understand this correctly.........Hunter and Jim Biden were front men for the Biden Family operations and the Big Guy was calling the shots. So...Obama and the FBI knew nothing of this? Seems unlikely.

Oilwatcher , 10 hours ago

Dude must be baked hard all the time to go off and leave data like that at a repair shop instead of coughing up an $80 repair bill.

Anonymous IX , 10 hours ago

Exactly.

"Baked hard" + arrogance (with having always gotten away with no consequences for all his illegal/immoral actions in the past).

Sometimes the powerful and mighty fall hard. Evidently, we're in one of those epoches. He may suffer very little criminal action against him, but he'll never recover...nor will the Bidens...from a scandal of this magnitude and distasteful revelations.

ponchoramic , 10 hours ago

He probably hates his Pop. I think it's in some of his texts. Def the blacksheep of family. Prob why he was on drugs in the first place.

Samual Vimes , 9 hours ago

Recovering drug addict Hunter Biden 'broke sober streak ...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13029782/hunter-biden-party-los-angeles-drugs-sober-mansion/

HUNTER Biden rented a pricey Los Angeles mansion for a party and allegedly "broke his sober streak" after fighting with his new wife weeks ago, according to a new report. Joe Biden's son ...

glasshour , 8 hours ago

The Bidens are compromised.

Detain. Interrogate. Jail.

OpenEyes , 9 hours ago

It's coming out that Wray was actually on the other side of the table in Hunter's negotiation for his Chinese "chairman" in the deal to buy into the Russian energy company. Wray was working for the law firm representing the Russian energy company (he made millions there before coming into the FBI). Not only was Wray aware of the crime, he was a player in that deal. No wonder the laptop, and all other evidence, has sat untouched in a dark vault at the FBI for almost a year.

I'm hoping that Trump fires Wray, Haspel and Barr on Wednesday regardless of the election outcome. Then I'm hoping that Wray is facing an indigtment before Christmas.

OpenEyes , 8 hours ago

And Fauci too. God, I hope he gets rid of that slime-ball.

[Nov 02, 2020] Hunter Biden's Story Could Help Hillary Clinton To Become Vice President

Nov 02, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Hunter Biden's Story Could Help Hillary Clinton To Become Vice President

The recently revealed business deals of Hunter Biden will strongly influence politics after an eventual Joe Biden win in tomorrows election.

On October 15 the New York Post published a story on Hunter Biden based on data from a laptop Joe Biden's son had left with a repair shop. The Biden family has not disputed that the laptop or the data on it is genuine. Next to the porn on the laptop there were thousand of emails which describe shady deals with a (now defunct) large Chinese energy company , CEFC.

Twitter , Facebook and other media like the Intercept tried to prevent the distribution of the story. They falsely claimed that the information was 'hacked' or unproven. The censorship inevitably made the story more prominent and increased the number of people who learned of it.

A week after the NY Post story ran Tony Bobulinski, a former business partner of Hunter Biden, went public with further allegations against him:

Tony Bobulinski, a former business associate of Hunter Biden, said Wednesday night that he can confirm details regarding his overseas business dealings, including that a reference to a "Big Guy" in a May 13, 2017 email did, in fact, refer to Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden.

In a lengthy statement, Bobulinski identified himself as the CEO of Sinohawk Holdings, a firm he described as "a partnership between the Chinese operating through CEFC/Chairman Ye and the Biden family." He added that Hunter Biden and James Gilliar, another business associate, brought him on as CEO of the venture.

"Hunter Biden called his dad 'the Big Guy' or 'my Chairman,' and frequently referenced asking him for his sign-off or advice on various potential deals that we were discussing," Bobulinski said. "I've seen Vice President Biden saying he never talked to Hunter about his business. I've seen firsthand that that's not true, because it wasn't just Hunter's business, they said they were putting the Biden family name and its legacy on the line."

A number of outlets have each carried various snippets of the whole story of Hunter Biden's very profitable dealings with foreign companies. That has created a confusing picture. Stephen McIntyre, who has done useful investigative research on climate change, Russiagate, and the OPCW shenanigans in Syria, has thankfully created a 19 pages long timeline with all the Biden-China evidence that has so far seen the daylight. He writes:

The Biden family was involved in two major Chinese deals: Nearly all of the interesting texts and emails from 2017 and Bobulinski's information are limited to this second deal. These were only a small fraction of sleazy transactions by Hunter Biden, Devon Archer and associates. Concurrent with this affair were transactions in Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Russia as well as participation in major frauds by John Galanis and Jason Sugarman in which Archer (but not so far, Hunter Biden) have been convicted. The texts and emails have been released in a piecemeal and disorganized way. In this article, I'll attempt to re-assemble a narrative of events for the CEFC affair.
...

Another timeline of the Hunter Biden affairs with slightly different material has been collected by Seamus Bruner and John Solomon. They write:

The New York Post broke news last week that Joe Biden himself may have benefited from his son's dealings. The Post quoted a cryptic message from one of Hunter's partners, saying that "10 [percent] held by H for the big guy?" The recipient of that message, Tony Bobulinski, says "there is no question" that "H" stands for Hunter and the "big guy" is Joe Biden.

We gain further insight into the operations of Biden Inc. in emails provided to us by Bevan Cooney, a former business associate of Hunter Biden. Cooney, who is currently in prison for his role in the Indian Bond Scheme that is sending Hunter Biden business partner Devon Archer also to jail, shared 26,000 emails that show what Hunter's role was in their business ventures. The Biden name was considered "currency" for their foreign business ventures, and was a "direct pipeline" to the Obama-Biden administration. Deals involving Hunter benefited from the "Biden lift," the help that the name would provide in overseas dealings.

What might the Bidens' foreign benefactors have expected in return for all this largesse? We can't say. But some may see a correlation between that foreign money and Joe Biden's policy posture toward the sources of that money.

Stephen McIntyre has promised to update his timeline with the material revealed by the other authors. As McIntyre is always diligent in his work his timeline can be taken as an authoritative source.

While I am still digging through the above collections here my first thoughts on why these matter.

The facts show that Hunter Biden and other traded on and profited from Joe Biden's position by selling his 'influence' to foreign companies. It is likely that Joe Biden at least indirectly also profited from that work.

The evidence is not rumored Russiagate material like the shoddy Steele dossier but real stuff which has legal consequences :

A federal judge named Joe Biden as a possible "witness" along with his son Hunter in a criminal fraud case last year that ended in the convictions of two of Hunter's business partners, according to little-noticed court documents. The Democratic presidential candidate's appearance on a witness list casts new doubt on his claims he knew nothing about his son's shady business dealings.

As revenge for Russiagate the Republicans will use the affair to their utmost advantage.

There are only two ways for Joe Biden to prevent Republicans and independent media from further digging into the affair and all the potentially illegal issues it reveals.

The second case is especially interesting. Vice President candidate Kamala Harris has been groomed by Hillary Clinton's inner circle since 2017 :

The Democrats' "Great Freshman Hope," Sen. Kamala Harris, is heading to the Hamptons to meet with Hillary Clinton's biggest backers.

The California senator is being fêted in Bridgehampton on Saturday at the home of MWWPR guru Michael Kempner, a staunch Clinton supporter who was one of her national-finance co-chairs and a led fund-raiser for her 2008 bid for the presidency. He was also listed as one of the top "bundlers" for Barack Obama's 2012 re-election campaign, having raised $3 million.

Clinton's recent Foreign Affairs piece, A National Security Reckoning - How Washington Should Think About Power , must be seen as a job application for a high position in a Harris (Biden) administration. Removing Joe Biden soon after he has won may well be in Clinton's interest.

Should the somewhat demented Joe Biden leave 'for health reasons' soon after he has been sworn into office Kamala Harris would become President. She then could use the 25th Amendment to select Hillary Clinton as the new Vice President.

If, after a Biden win in the election, Hillary Clinton supporters in the liberul media stop censoring the Hunter Biden affair or even start to further expose it we can be sure that such a scheme is on the verge of being implemented.

Posted by b on November 2, 2020 at 19:07 UTC | Permalink


Jose Garcia , Nov 2 2020 19:27 utc | 1

Bingo. The Clintons are never too far away from all political shenanigans that go on in the US. They and their cohorts were called the Southern Mafia for a reason.
lysias , Nov 2 2020 19:29 utc | 2
Once LBJ became president, the corruption case against him quickly disappeared.
lysias , Nov 2 2020 19:31 utc | 3
If Kamala Harris does this, she must have a death wish.
Perimetr , Nov 2 2020 19:33 utc | 4
As I suggested once before on MoA, Harris was chosen by the Clintons. B has explained why. ,
Ghost Ship , Nov 2 2020 19:35 utc | 5
Once Hillary is VP, something happens to Harris and Hillary becomes president.
Christian J. Chuba , Nov 2 2020 19:41 utc | 6
A Joe Biden impeachment if guilty of payouts from China would be a victory of our system of checks and balances. Still not voting for Trump.

Steele Dossier update I read that the primary source for Steele was Ms. Galkina, basically a nobody creating fiction for pay and not a 'a high ranking Kremlin official'. Does this mean that the Trump Shills like Don Jr, Hannity, Ingraham, et al will stop calling it Russian misinformation sent to the Democrats to attack Donald Trump?

Jackrabbit , Nov 2 2020 19:49 utc | 7
This is plausible.

Hillary as Pres. or V. Pres. is the only reason why the Deep State might prefer Biden over Trump.

!!

Down South , Nov 2 2020 19:53 utc | 8
It explains why they chose Joe Biden as presidential candidate even though he is clearly not up to the job. He is to be the expendable Trojan horse through which some very unpalatable to the public people will gain power they otherwise would not have been able to.

This should worry those who will vote for Biden. What they are voting for and what they are going to get is not the same thing.

Jpc , Nov 2 2020 19:57 utc | 9
The US electorate have been grossly deceived by the MSM and social (hah!) media providers.
Down South , Nov 2 2020 19:58 utc | 10
after an eventual Joe Biden win in tomorrows election

I don't agree with this though.

I think Trump is going to win.

Paul Damascene , Nov 2 2020 20:02 utc | 11
Useful clarity, b, as always.
Not sure I can agree that Republican reps will drag this into the light post election.
My impression was that they didn't go into Ukraine defense at impeachment was that the campaign finance / money laundering / influence peddling gravy train there, as elsewhere, probably, was and is bipartisan.
Daniel Lynch , Nov 2 2020 20:02 utc | 12
I can buy everything B is saying, but who exactly will investigate President Biden if D's win both Houses of Congress?

Bill Barr could start an investigation, if one has not already been started, but government moves slowly so it is hard to see the Trump administration bringing charges before Biden is sworn in.

But if Hillary wants to throw Biden under the bus after the election, well she could probably do so.

urblintz , Nov 2 2020 20:05 utc | 13
@#10
Alas, DS... no one wins here. We all lose, either way.
Wind Hippo , Nov 2 2020 20:16 utc | 14
The best arguments against life extension science are people like Clinton, Biden, and Pelosi. Imagine them as speaker or senator or Supreme Court justice for the next 1000 years.
james , Nov 2 2020 20:18 utc | 15
thanks b... as jr the bunny notes - this is plausible... the clintons sure are creepy... this is a good halloween story..
Old and Grumpy , Nov 2 2020 20:24 utc | 16
Wouldn't the 25th amendment be the desired method of transferring power to Harris? Although it has always struck me a wee bit odd that the computer repairman called the FBI after making a copy, which in turn he gave to Rudy Giuliana. Do all computer repairmen have Rudy on speed dial by any chance? Sadly the weird of the whole scenario is very Clintonian. How long til an Arkancide or two happens. Can't the Clintons just go away for good?
Bill , Nov 2 2020 20:35 utc | 17
@ Daniel Lynch | Nov 2 2020 20:02 utc | 12

The democrats will investigate and kick Biden out. The democrats knew all along that this stuff about Biden was real but they had no chance to win with the other losers. So, the order was given to the others to drop from the race and let strawman Biden beat Bernie. If Biden gets elected, they will bring all his dirt up, impeach him and govern from the shadows through Kamala who has no principles and questionable character (e.g., slept with Willie to move her career up).

pnyx , Nov 2 2020 20:37 utc | 18
Or maybe Harris poisons Biden to speed things up and invites Micky Mouse to become her vice president.

Come on B, this is really clumsy, below your standard. We all know that Biden is corrupt, but we also know that Tronald is even more corrupt, that he is a fascist who has filled every post in his administration with the most disgusting reactionary you can find in the country. And that means something. The man belongs to scrap iron. One cannot reject the bad in favor of the even worse. That is irrational.

Tsar Nicholas , Nov 2 2020 20:37 utc | 19
Biden will not win, MoA. You were also wrong about Covid-19.
NemesisCalling , Nov 2 2020 20:49 utc | 20
Yes, this has been hinted on by my local conservative radio host since Pelosi introduced legislation re: removing unfit presidents about a month ago.

It was always about removing Biden, if he were elected, not Trump.

Biden has never struck me during his whole campaign of a genuine interest in the presidency.

It has always seemed more like he was doing it begrudgingly for "the cause."

Contrast this to the emotion Trump exhibited during his 2016 run when he gripped and nearly ripped his notes in anger after a debate with Hillary Clinton ended. Or how he sat stone-faced during Obama's speech during a white house correspondence dinner where Obama tore into Trump and the audience roared with laughter. Trump just stared right back.

These are pieces any sane person can put together with the understanding that these men are all still subject to egoism and revenge. It is not all elites against us as some simpletons wish to boil it down to. It is much more subtle and so you must use discernment and study their tells and what gives their true desires away.

oldhippie , Nov 2 2020 21:08 utc | 21

Hillary is so unlikely to have authored the Foreign Affairs article. Staff work. Whose staff? Uninteresting to pursue. Other than that appearance Hills has been very quiet. Suspiciously quiet. Could be that Obama or whoever succeeded in shutting her up, that would have been daunting and just plain hard. Better bet is her health is failing.
lulu , Nov 2 2020 21:10 utc | 22
b, you may need to check this story:

Hong Kong media tycoon Jimmy Lai 's right-hand man "I'm not a spy" Mark Simon falls on his sword for the Hunter Biden story .

In short, Mark Simon took initiative and gave $10,000 to a guy called Crhistopher Balding , an associate professor at Beijing University and late moved to Vietnam on Fulbright Scholarship, to prepare and disseminate the "Aspen dossier" detailing supposed Chinese influence ops targeting the Biden family basing an the "info/disinformation" from a supposed Swiss investigator Martin Aspen.

After NBC article exposes Martin Aspen is actually an AI-created persona, Jimmy Lai, who depends on the support from USG to continue his anti-China activities in HK, publicly distance himself from the whole operation, and his trusted lieutenant Mark Simon, a possible CIA agent, announced his resignation from Apple Daily after Balding exposed his involvement. Detail here

teri , Nov 2 2020 21:11 utc | 23
Okay, sleazy and yet very normal (one might say habitual) corruption in a US political family. But by 2017, Joe Biden was out of office, and there is nothing that suggests that he, rather than his repulsive son, was profiting before that.
The stake in the Bohai Harvest Partners Investment Fund (2013) does not name Joe Biden as an investor at all.

This may be why the FBI, the media, and even Glenn Greenwald in his article, say that there is nothing in this pile of dog crap that implicates Joe Biden at this point.

Plymouth Rock , Nov 2 2020 21:13 utc | 24
All very plausible, all very Byzantine and decadent. The "United States of America" is in the midst of decay and breakup, which will occur no matter who is "elected" or otherwise gains power, legally or militarily. It is only a question of which "gang in power" -to use Murray Rothbard's phrase- is running your successor state.
lulu , Nov 2 2020 21:25 utc | 25

How a fake persona laid the groundwork for a Hunter Biden conspiracy deluge .

A quick search on BHR Partners , it says:

According to The New Yorker, in June 2013, "[Jonathan] Li, Archer, and other business partners signed a memorandum of understanding to create the fund, which they named BHR Partners, and, in November, they signed contracts related to the deal. Hunter became an unpaid member of BHR's board but did not take an equity stake in BHR Partners until after his father left the White House →".

The Aspen Dossier was peddled by Balding to right wing websites, which then first published in mid-Sept and now got the momentum.

c1ue , Nov 2 2020 21:29 utc | 26
The notion that the Democrats will allow their party name to be associated with a deposed Democrat President seems more than far-fetched.
Far more likely is that the "investigation" will drag on long enough to fade from public view, then quietly pardon everyone.
This Biden to Harris to HRC seems much more like a plot for a fantasy/spy novel.
Norwegian , Nov 2 2020 21:31 utc | 27
Stephen McIntyre is a very credible source. I have followed his climate work, it is top notch.

Hillary Clinton as vice president? Who could have guessed? /s She will have the same role as Cheney had over Bush. A nightmare scenario.

H.Schmatz , Nov 2 2020 21:33 utc | 28
Meanwhile...we are being distracted by the Huntergate ...an autum of terror in being prepared in Europe...
At least 150 private military contractors have been transported to Europe on Pentagon-chartered flights over the last weeks, including from Benghazi, #Libya via #Malta to Sofia, #Bulgaria

https://twitter.com/dgaytandzhieva/status/1322605905054257155


H.Schmatz , Nov 2 2020 21:36 utc | 29
Posted by: H.Schmatz | Nov 2 2020 21:33 utc | 28

Someone also added to this:

https://twitter.com/GDarkconrad/status/1323158782000640005

Sunny Runny Burger , Nov 2 2020 21:40 utc | 30
Harris could simply resign some weeks after Clinton II gets the VP, Harris could do so for any reason but if it was me writing the script I would cook up some mumbo jumbo about "clean slate", "not yet ready", "for the sake of blah-blah" and so on.

That way Harris can come back and fill the gap between Clinton II and Clinton III (no prizes for guessing who).

Not that I don't think the US won't be gone long before that can happen or won't be in a civil war if any of it does or maybe from Biden or the "election" alone.

vk , Nov 2 2020 21:47 utc | 31
I agree with many here: looks like a typical political elite family corruption (Roman-style corruption).

But I have a theory: with Reagan's hegemony (1980-1992), the old Democrat elites were wiped out. The Democratic Party came near to extinction, the USA almost becoming a single-party nation. Reagan looked invincible, the consensus he commanded among the American people incontestable. He easily elected his successor (George H. W. Bush).

The Democrats were reborn, like a Phoenix, thanks to a huge transformation: the rise of the so-called "Southern Democrats". This newly-born faction, much more conservative, had one clear leadership: Bill Clinton, from Arkansas.

Bill Clinton then surprisingly won against George H. W. Bush and got extremely lucky: he got the USSR in tatters, ready for the sack. The ransacking of the Soviet Sphere marked the only time after the post-war miracle (1945-1974) when the USA registered a trade surplus (+38%).

This ransacking, in my theory, generated the rise of a new set of families of a new Democrat elite. All of then are vassals to the Clinton family (as we can deduce from the de facto fusion between the Clinton Foundation and the DNC), but each got the right to a piece of the ex-Soviet cake. Victoria Nuland, for example, got the telecommunication industries of the ex-Yugoslavia through her husband. My guess is the Bidens are part of this new, "Southern Democrat" elite, hence their casual connections with ex-Soviet states and mafias.

Everything must have been done quickly and hastily, as Bill Clinton wasn't able to elect his successor (Al Gore). This realization that "time was short" may explain the apparent amateurish partition of the ex-socialist cake by those families. Hence the laptop episode.

The Obama phenomenon may be easily explained: the crisis of 2008 prompted Wall Street to enter the field because they needed the bailout (Bush's Congress blocked the bailout in November 2008, putting the Texan on his knees) to pass as soon as January 2009. Hilary Clinton was senator for New York (you cannot be elected in NY without Wall Street's consent), so it wasn't that she was in any position to rig the DNC at that moment. Penny Pritzker somehow convinced Wall Street moguls Obama (senator from Illinois, USA's second financial center) was the better candidate to the task. Even then, Hilary competed with Obama, and there were primaries, so the process wasn't as smooth as many alt-rightists like to tell us today. Plus, Hilary was still young, so she had time: she may have calculated Obama would be left to clean the shit from the crisis and she would reap the economic recovery as his successor; that Obama survived and easily got reelected is merely one of those windfalls of destiny.

Anyhow, the fact is that Obama disappeared after his second term and the Clintons came back to the forefront of the Democratic Party. This is an indication he was more of a detour on the party's project, the Southern Democrats never really losing grip. I don't think the Bidens are, therefore, part of Obama's entourage, but of the Clinton's.

Willy2 , Nov 2 2020 21:51 utc | 32
- When I read that Hillary Clinton has put out a job application then I almost want Trump to win the presidential election of 2020.
- There was one person who said that the choice between Clinton and Trump (in 2016) and Biden and Trump (in 2020) was the choice between having typhoid and having cholera.
lulu , Nov 2 2020 21:58 utc | 33
Quick check on Chinese webiste, the exact name of the joint fund Hunter Biden's company participated is Bohai Harvest RST (Shanghai) Equity Investment Fund Management Co. Ltd , a sub fund of Bohai Harvest Partners Investment Fund.

Its aim is to use Shanghai FTA to covert Chinese Yuan to dollar to invest overseas.

(Somehow, I personally doubt this kind of funds could be used by rich Chinese tycoons and corrupt officials to shift their illegal gains out of China.)

As mention above, Hunter was unpaid board member of BHR and didn't have an equity stake in BHR Partners .

Obviously, it looks rather nepotism, but isn't it the fact that lots of relatives of the American (Chinese, European, Japanes, etc.) politicians have been doing these kind dubious business deals all the time?

Are any patriotic Trump supporters making a big fuss about this: Wilbur Ross Remained on Chinese Joint Venture Board While Running U.S.-China Trade War .

Probably, the pot shouldn't call the kettle black?

Sakineh Bagoom , Nov 2 2020 22:03 utc | 34
I don't know b. Too many if, then, elses, for this nirvana to occur.
I'll bide/bite my time and wait.
SteveLaudig , Nov 2 2020 22:05 utc | 35
Hunter was quite the sleaze an "honorary" Trump family member.
Jackrabbit , Nov 2 2020 22:05 utc | 36
I don't know much abou the Hillary-Kamala relationship but I do know that Hillary is prehaps the only person that Congress can agree on to be VP.

Fact check: If the vice president becomes president, House speaker doesn't become new VP

"Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress," Section 2 of the amendment explains.

!!
Carlton Meyer , Nov 2 2020 22:15 utc | 37
Biden is a petty criminal compared to the Clinton crime family.

Her role in massive arms smuggling from Benghazi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc4wrSIOUxc


And the coup in Honduras: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3RXl3u9oxw

oldhippie , Nov 2 2020 22:15 utc | 38
Vk@31

Penny Pritzker? Where do you come up with this stuff? She's a nasty piece of work all right but that she moved Wall Street or played kingmaker is just absurd.

Penny couldn't even manage basic South Side real estate swindles without buckets of help. Including from Obama. Who has a long family pedigree and outranks Pritzkers in every way.

S , Nov 2 2020 22:16 utc | 39
@Christian J. Chuba #6
I read that the primary source for Steele was Ms. Galkina, basically a nobody creating fiction for pay and not a 'a high ranking Kremlin official'. Does this mean that the Trump Shills like Don Jr, Hannity, Ingraham, et al will stop calling it Russian misinformation sent to the Democrats to attack Donald Trump?

You might have missed this, but it has been established by U.S. scientists that Russians are not animals. Russians is a giant fungal mycelium that may form animal mimic fruiting bodies colloquially known as "Russian individuals". Thus, while it may appear to you that Galkina is a separate organism, in reality "she" is a mere outgrowth of Russians. Any action taken by "her" is an action of the entire organism. That is why any time a Russian fruiting body misbehaves, the sanctions are imposed on the entire mycelium. Hope this helps.

lulu , Nov 2 2020 22:16 utc | 40
Suddenly , some of the woke liberals and MSM journos start to doubt the corrupt Chinese billionaire Guo Wengui aka Miles Kwok, a fugitive, and MSM's mostly beloved master of Chinese "leaker", is working for CCP(!) and begin to expose his undemocratic behavour:


- Guo Wengui Is Sending Mobs After Chinese Dissidents


- They once peddled misinformation for Guo Wengui and Steve Bannon. Now they're speaking out

All because of his involvement of collecting/making-up disinformation "leaks" about Biden family?

vk , Nov 2 2020 22:19 utc | 41
@ Posted by: oldhippie | Nov 2 2020 22:15 utc | 38

She was Obama's main fundraiser I think. This is public knowledge.

Obama raised double of what John McCain did. It was a comfortable victory.

gottlieb , Nov 2 2020 22:21 utc | 42
I think Biden was chosen, because no one wanted him, as a 'consensus candidate' against Bernie Sanders. Sanders is a much more existential threat to the 'establishment' than Donald Trump. And yeah, sheep dog etc. the point is the ideas behind Sanders - to begin mitigation of corporate power - is the enemy.

Hillary Clinton? If the plan is to seal the deal for a third party movement to actually rival the two-party monopoly, then good plan.

Bemildred , Nov 2 2020 22:29 utc | 43
Posted by: lulu | Nov 2 2020 22:16 utc | 40

Yeah, no doubt they suckered Hunter, then saved the laptop for October while making up a story for how they got it. I have always felt - I won't say thought - that the whole story stunk, it was just too convenient, the timing too perfect, the scandal too juicy, and Trump is a vindictive person, it's payback. Perhaps they enhanced the contents a bit too. If there is an investigation, it could be interesting.

Jen , Nov 2 2020 22:38 utc | 44
B's prediction that Joe Biden being pushed out early during his first term as President, either because of Hunter Biden's scandals or his own worsening dementia, to be replaced by Kamala Harris as President who would then nominate The Klintonator as her VP, will depend on Biden winning the Presidency.

The way the election seems to be going - I have seen some news that an Australian news reporter in the US, monitoring the news polls and speaking to people, is confused because while the polls predict a Biden win, the majority of the people he talks to (I presume he travels quite a lot and speaks to people of very different backgrounds and communities) are voting for Trump - the results may be very close, they will depend on votes coming from US voters casting votes overseas or mail-in votes, the Electoral College voting may be very close and I hazard that the final result may not be known until December.

Plenty of time then for both Democrats and Republicans to accuse each other of stalling on the results, for fighting to break out all around the nation, and cities to try to enforce lockdowns to the extent of calling in the military. Perhaps when civil war breaks out, someone will propose some kind of unity government, Congress in its panic will agree and somehow The Klintonator manages to wangle her way into the Presidency or a position as Secretary of Defense or Secretary of State.

james , Nov 2 2020 22:50 utc | 45
here is a post from someone at sst - jersey jeffersonian - quoting from a website... i don't know if or how much of this is true, but it goes with all of this..

"It seems now that Chris Wray's FBI was sitting on the Hunter Biden laptop, too.

And probably, beyond permitting the whole impeachment farago to plow ahead by hiding evidence supportive of President Trump's actions, or lack thereof, in Ukraine, because certain activities in which Wray had been involved earlier might come back to haunt him. Here is a passage quoted from James Kunstler's blog post of this morning on this point:

"...here's a strange Swamp sidelight to all this: CEFC's main exploit during the Biden hook-up years was the purchase of a 14 percent stake in Russia's oil-and-gas giant, Rosneft, to help China circumvent US sanctions on Russia's oil sales. Guess who was one of the lawyers working for Rosneft: Christopher Wray, just before he became FBI director. And guess who has been sitting on Hunter Biden's laptop since at least December of 2019. Oh, the FBI. And guess what else: the Rosneft files have since been deleted by Mr. Wray's old law firm, King and Spalding."

Recall here Biden's negotiations with the head of CEFC, Ho Chiping, to establish a humongous LPG facility in Louisiana (see the referenced blog post for more information)." here is the website link as well for the specific quote - The Awful Reckoning

lysias , Nov 2 2020 22:57 utc | 46
When the last serious dispute about who had won a presidential election occurred, in 1876, they had four months between the election and the inauguration of the new president to resolve the matter, and then the dispute was only resolved at the last moment, just before the inauguration date.

Now, with the inauguration date moved back from March to December, they will have considerably less time to resolve a dispute.

JoeG , Nov 2 2020 23:00 utc | 47
Trump has already won FL.
The early voting makes that clear.
https://joeisdone.github.io/florida/

[Oct 31, 2020] Article on Joe and Hunter Biden Censored By The Intercept by Greenwald

Oct 31, 2020 | greenwald.substack.com

An attempt to assess the importance of the known evidence, and a critique of media lies to protect their favored candidate, could not be published at The Intercept Oct 29 675 380


I am posting here the most recent draft of my article about Joe and Hunter Biden -- the last one seen by Intercept editors before telling me that they refuse to publish it absent major structural changes involving the removal of all sections critical of Joe Biden, leaving only a narrow article critiquing media outlets. I will also, in a separate post, publish all communications I had with Intercept editors surrounding this article so you can see the censorship in action and, given the Intercept's denials, decide for yourselves (this is the kind of transparency responsible journalists provide, and which the Intercept refuses to this day to provide regarding their conduct in the Reality Winner story). This draft obviously would have gone through one more round of proof-reading and editing by me -- to shorten it, fix typos, etc -- but it's important for the integrity of the claims to publish the draft in unchanged form that Intercept editors last saw, and announced that they would not "edit" but completely gut as a condition to publication:

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TITLE: THE REAL SCANDAL: U.S. MEDIA USES FALSEHOODS TO DEFEND JOE BIDEN FROM HUNTER'S EMAILS

Publication by the New York Post two weeks ago of emails from Hunter Biden's laptop, relating to Vice President Joe Biden's work in Ukraine , and subsequent articles from other outlets concerning the Biden family's pursuit of business opportunities in China , provoked extraordinary efforts by a de facto union of media outlets, Silicon Valley giants and the intelligence community to suppress these stories.

One outcome is that the Biden campaign concluded, rationally, that there is no need for the front-running presidential candidate to address even the most basic and relevant questions raised by these materials. Rather than condemn Biden for ignoring these questions -- the natural instinct of a healthy press when it comes to a presidential election -- journalists have instead led the way in concocting excuses to justify his silence.

After the Post's first article, both that newspaper and other news outlets have published numerous other emails and texts purportedly written to and from Hunter reflecting his efforts to induce his father to take actions as Vice President beneficial to the Ukrainian energy company Burisma, on whose board of directors Hunter sat for a monthly payment of $50,000, as well as proposals for lucrative business deals in China that traded on his influence with his father.

Individuals included in some of the email chains have confirmed the contents' authenticity . One of Hunter's former business partners, Tony Bubolinski, has stepped forward on the record to confirm the authenticity of many of the emails and to insist that Hunter along with Joe Biden's brother Jim were planning on including the former Vice President in at least one deal in China. And GOP pollster Frank Luntz, who appeared in one of the published email chains, appeared to confirm the authenticity as well, though he refused to answer follow-up questions about it.

Thus far, no proof has been offered by Bubolinski that Biden ever consummated his participation in any of those discussed deals. The Wall Street Journal says that it found no corporate records reflecting that a deal was finalized and that "text messages and emails related to the venture that were provided to the Journal by Mr. Bobulinski, mainly from the spring and summer of 2017, don't show either Hunter Biden or James Biden discussing a role for Joe Biden in the venture."

But nobody claimed that any such deals had been consummated -- so the conclusion that one had not been does not negate the story. Moreover, some texts and emails whose authenticity has not been disputed state that Hunter was adamant that any discussions about the involvement of the Vice President be held only verbally and never put in writing.

Beyond that, the Journal's columnist Kimberly Strassel reviewed a stash of documents and "found correspondence corroborates and expands on emails recently published by the New York Post," including ones where Hunter was insisting that it was his connection to his father that was the greatest asset sought by the Chinese conglomerate with whom they were negotiating. The New York Times on Sunday reached a similar conclusion : while no documents prove that such a deal was consummated, "records produced by Mr. Bobulinski show that in 2017, Hunter Biden and James Biden were involved in negotiations about a joint venture with a Chinese energy and finance company called CEFC China Energy," and "make clear that Hunter Biden saw the family name as a valuable asset, angrily citing his 'family's brand' as a reason he is valuable to the proposed venture."

These documents also demonstrate, reported the Times, "that the countries that Hunter Biden, James Biden and their associates planned to target for deals overlapped with nations where Joe Biden had previously been involved as vice president." Strassel noted that "a May 2017 'expectations' document shows Hunter receiving 20% of the equity in the venture and holding another 10% for 'the big guy' -- who Mr. Bobulinski attests is Joe Biden." And the independent journalist Matt Taibbi published an article on Sunday with ample documentation suggesting that Biden's attempt to replace a Ukranian prosecutor in 2015 benefited Burisma.

All of these new materials, the authenticity of which has never been disputed by Hunter Biden or the Biden campaign, raise important questions about whether the former Vice President and current front-running presidential candidate was aware of efforts by his son to peddle influence with the Vice President for profit, and also whether the Vice President ever took actions in his official capacity with the intention, at least in part, of benefitting his son's business associates. But in the two weeks since the Post published its initial story, a union of the nation's most powerful entities, including its news media, have taken extraordinary steps to obscure and bury these questions rather than try to provide answers to them.

The initial documents, claimed the New York Post, were obtained when the laptops containing them were left at a Delaware repair shop with water damage and never picked up, allowing the owner to access its contents and then turn them over to both the FBI and a lawyer for Trump advisor Rudy Giuliani. The repair store owner confirmed this narrative in interviews with news outlets and then (under penalty of prosecution) to a Senate Committee; he also provided the receipt purportedly signed by Hunter. Neither Hunter nor the Biden campaign has denied these claims.

Publication of that initial New York Post story provoked a highly unusual censorship campaign by Facebook and Twitter. Facebook, through a long-time former Democratic Party operative, vowed to suppress the story pending its "fact-check," one that has as of yet produced no public conclusions. And while Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey apologized for Twitter's handling of the censorship and reversed the policy that led to the blocking of all links the story, the New York Post, the nation's fourth-largest newspaper, continues to be locked out of its Twitter account, unable to post as the election approaches, for almost two weeks.

After that initial censorship burst from Silicon Valley, whose workforce and oligarchs have donated almost entirely to the Biden campaign, it was the nation's media outlets and former CIA and other intelligence officials who took the lead in constructing reasons why the story should be dismissed, or at least treated with scorn. As usual for the Trump era, the theme that took center stage to accomplish this goal was an unsubstantiated claim about the Kremlin responsibility for the story.

Numerous news outlets, including the Intercept , quickly cited a public letter signed by former CIA officials and other agents of the security state claiming that the documents have the "classic trademarks" of a "Russian disinformation" plot. But, as media outlets and even intelligence agencies are now slowly admitting, no evidence has ever been presented to corroborate this assertion. On Friday, the New York Times reported that "no concrete evidence has emerged that the laptop contains Russian disinformation" and the paper said even the FBI has "acknowledged that it had not found any Russian disinformation on the laptop."

The Washington Post on Sunday published an op-ed -- by Thomas Rid, one of those centrists establishmentarian professors whom media outlets routinely use to provide the facade of expert approval for deranged conspiracy theories -- that contained this extraordinary proclamation: "We must treat the Hunter Biden leaks as if they were a foreign intelligence operation -- even if they probably aren't."

Even the letter from the former intelligence officials cited by The Intercept and other outlets to insinuate that this was all part of some "Russian disinformation" scheme explicitly admitted that "we do not have evidence of Russian involvement," though many media outlets omitted that crucial acknowledgement when citing the letter in order to disparage the story as a Kremlin plot:

Despite this complete lack of evidence, the Biden campaign adopted this phrase used by intelligence officials and media outlets as its mantra for why the materials should not be discussed and why they would not answer basic questions about them. "I think we need to be very, very clear that what he's doing here is amplifying Russian misinformation," said Biden Deputy Campaign Manager Kate Bedingfield about the possibility that Trump would raise the Biden emails at Thursday night's debate. Biden's senior advisor Symone Sanders similarly warned on MSNBC : "if the president decides to amplify these latest smears against the vice president and his only living son, that is Russian disinformation."

The few mainstream journalists who tried merely to discuss these materials have been vilified. For the crime of simply noting it on Twitter that first day, New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman had her name trend all morning along with the derogatory nickname "MAGA Haberman." CBS News' Bo Erickson was widely attacked even by his some in the media simply for asking Biden what his response to the story was. And Biden himself refused to answer, accusing Erickson of spreading a "smear."

That it is irresponsible and even unethical to mention these documents became a pervasive view in mainstream journalism. The NPR Public Editor, in an anazing statement representative of much of the prevailing media mentality, explicitly justified NPR's refusal to cover the story on the ground that "we do not want to waste our time on stories that are not really stories . . . [or] waste the readers' and listeners' time on stories that are just pure distractions."

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To justify her own show's failure to cover the story, 60 Minutes' Leslie Stahl resorted to an entirely different justification . "It can't be verified," the CBS reporter claimed when confronted by President Trump in an interview about her program's failure to cover the Hunter Biden documents. When Trump insisted there were multiple ways to verify the materials on the laptop, Stahl simply repeated the same phrase : "it can't be verified."

After the final presidential debate on Thursday night, a CNN panel mocked the story as too complex and obscure for anyone to follow -- a self-fulfilling prophecy given that, as the network's media reporter Brian Stelter noted with pride , the story has barely been mentioned either on CNN or MSNBC. As the New York Times noted on Friday : "most viewers of CNN and MSNBC would not have heard much about the unconfirmed Hunter Biden emails.... CNN's mentions of "Hunter" peaked at 20 seconds and MSNBC's at 24 seconds one day last week."

On Sunday, CNN's Christiane Amanpour barely pretended to be interested in any journalism surrounding the story, scoffing during an interview at requests from the RNC's Elizabeth Harrington to cover the story and verify the documents by telling her: "We're not going to do your work for you." Watch how the U.S.'s most mainstream journalists are openly announcing their refusal to even consider what these documents might reflect about the Democratic front-runner:

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/oSB_fQHbSiA?rel=0&autoplay=0&showinfo=0

These journalists are desperate not to know. As Taibbi wrote on Sunday about this tawdry press spectacle: " The least curious people in the country right now appear to be the credentialed news media, a situation normally unique to tinpot authoritarian societies."

All of those excuses and pretexts -- emanating largely from a national media that is all but explicit in their eagerness for Biden to win -- served for the first week or more after the Post story to create a cone of silence around this story and, to this very day, a protective shield for Biden. As a result, the front-running presidential candidate knows that he does not have to answer even the most basic questions about these documents because most of the national press has already signaled that they will not press him to do so; to the contrary, they will concoct defenses on his behalf to avoid discussing it.

The relevant questions for Biden raised by this new reporting are as glaring as they are important. Yet Biden has had to answer very few of them yet because he has not been asked and, when he has, media outlets have justified his refusal to answer rather than demand that he do so. We submitted nine questions to his campaign about these documents that the public has the absolute right to know, including:

Though the Biden campaign indicated that they would respond to the Intercept's questions, they have not done so. A statement they released to other outlets contains no answers to any of these questions except to claim that Biden "has never even considered being involved in business with his family, nor in any business overseas." To date, even as the Biden campaign echoes the baseless claims of media outlets that anyone discussing this story is "amplifying Russian disinformation," neither Hunter Biden nor the Biden campaign have even said whether they claim the emails and other documents -- which they and the press continue to label "Russian disinformation" -- are forgeries or whether they are authentic.

The Biden campaign clearly believes it has no need to answer any of these questions by virtue of a panoply of media excuses offered on its behalf that collapse upon the most minimal scrutiny:

First , the claim that the material is of suspect authenticity or cannot be verified -- the excuse used on behalf of Biden by Leslie Stahl and Christiane Amanpour, among others -- is blatantly false for numerous reasons. As someone who has reported similar large archives in partnership with numerous media outlets around the world (including the Snowden archive in 2014 and the Intercept's Brazil Archive over the last year showing corruption by high-level Bolsonaro officials ), and who also covered the reporting of similar archives by other outlets (the Panama Papers, the WikiLeaks war logs of 2010 and DNC/Podesta emails of 2016), it is clear to me that the trove of documents from Hunter Biden's emails has been verified in ways quite similar to those.

With an archive of this size, one can never independently authenticate every word in every last document unless the subject of the reporting voluntarily confirms it in advance, which they rarely do. What has been done with similar archives is journalists obtain enough verification to create high levels of journalistic confidence in the materials. Some of the materials provided by the source can be independently confirmed, proving genuine access by the source to a hard drive, a telephone, or a database. Other parties in email chains can confirm the authenticity of the email or text conversations in which they participated. One investigates non-public facts contained in the documents to determine that they conform to what the documents reflect. Technology specialists can examine the materials to ensure no signs of forgeries are detected.

This is the process that enabled the largest and most established media outlets around the world to report similar large archives obtained without authorization. In those other cases, no media outlet was able to verify every word of every document prior to publication. There was no way to prove the negative that the source or someone else had not altered or forged some of the material. That level of verification is both unattainable and unnecessary. What is needed is substantial evidence to create high confidence in the authentication process.

The Hunter Biden documents have at least as much verification as those other archives that were widely reported. There are sources in the email chains who have verified that the published emails are accurate. The archive contains private photos and videos of Hunter whose authenticity is not in doubt. A former business partner of Hunter has stated, unequivocally and on the record, that not only are the emails authentic but they describe events accurately, including proposed participation by the former Vice President in at least one deal Hunter and Jim Biden were pursuing in China. And, most importantly of all, neither Hunter Biden nor the Biden campaign has even suggested, let alone claimed, that a single email or text is fake.

Why is the failure of the Bidens to claim that these emails are forged so significant? Because when journalists report on a massive archive, they know that the most important event in the reporting's authentication process comes when the subjects of the reporting have an opportunity to deny that the materials are genuine. Of course that is what someone would do if major media outlets were preparing to publish, or in fact were publishing, fabricated or forged materials in their names; they would say so in order to sow doubt about the materials if not kill the credibility of the reporting.

The silence of the Bidens may not be dispositive on the question of the material's authenticity, but when added to the mountain of other authentication evidence, it is quite convincing: at least equal to the authentication evidence in other reporting on similarly large archives.

Second , the oft-repeated claim from news outlets and CIA operatives that the published emails and texts were "Russian disinformation" was, from the start, obviously baseless and reckless. No evidence -- literally none -- has been presented to suggest involvement by any Russians in the dissemination of these materials, let alone that it was part of some official plot by Moscow. As always, anything is possible -- when one does not know for certain what the provenance of materials is, nothing can be ruled out -- but in journalism, evidence is required before news outlets can validly start blaming some foreign government for the release of information. And none has ever been presented. Yet the claim that this was "Russian disinformation" was published in countless news outlets, television broadcasts, and the social media accounts of journalists, typically by pointing to the evidence-free claims of ex-CIA officials.

Worse is the "disinformation" part of the media's equation. How can these materials constitute "disinformation" if they are authentic emails and texts actually sent to and from Hunter Biden? The ease with which news outlets that are supposed to be skeptical of evidence-free pronouncements by the intelligence community instead printed their assertions about "Russian disinformation" is alarming in the extreme. But they did it because they instinctively wanted to find a reason to justify ignoring the contents of these emails, so claiming that Russia was behind it, and that the materials were "disinformation," became their placeholder until they could figure out what else they should say to justify ignoring these documents.

Third , the media rush to exonerate Biden on the question of whether he engaged in corruption vis-a-vis Ukraine and Burisma rested on what are, at best, factually dubious defenses of the former Vice President. Much of this controversy centers on Biden's aggressive efforts while Vice President in late 2015 to force the Ukrainian government to fire its Chief Prosecutor, Viktor Shokhin, and replace him with someone acceptable to the U.S., which turned out to be Yuriy Lutsenko. These events are undisputed by virtue of a video of Biden boasting in front of an audience of how he flew to Kiev and forced the Ukrainians to fire Shokhin, upon pain of losing $1 billion in aid.

But two towering questions have long been prompted by these events, and the recently published emails make them more urgent than ever: 1) was the firing of the Ukrainian General Prosecutor such a high priority for Biden as Vice President of the U.S. because of his son's highly lucrative role on the board of Burisma, and 2) if that was not the motive, why was it so important for Biden to dictate who the chief prosecutor of Ukraine was?

The standard answer to the question about Biden's motive -- offered both by Biden and his media defenders -- is that he, along with the IMF and EU, wanted Shokhin fired because the U.S. and its allies were eager to clean up Ukraine, and they viewed Shokhin as insufficiently vigilant in fighting corruption.

"Biden's brief was to sweet-talk and jawbone Poroshenko into making reforms that Ukraine's Western benefactors wanted to see as," wrote the Washington Post's Glenn Kessler in what the Post calls a "fact-check." Kessler also endorsed the key defense of Biden: that the firing of Shokhin was bad for Burima, not good for it. "The United States viewed [Shokhin] as ineffective and beholden to Poroshenko and Ukraine's corrupt oligarchs. In particular, Shokin had failed to pursue an investigation of the founder of Burisma, Mykola Zlochevsky," Kessler claims.

But that claim does not even pass the laugh test. The U.S. and its European allies are not opposed to corruption by their puppet regimes. They are allies with the most corrupt regimes on the planet, from Riyadh to Cairo, and always have been. Since when does the U.S. devote itself to ensuring good government in the nations it is trying to control? If anything, allowing corruption to flourish has been a key tool in enabling the U.S. to exert power in other countries and to open up their markets to U.S. companies.

Beyond that, if increasing prosecutorial independence and strengthening anti-corruption vigilance were really Biden's goal in working to demand the firing of the Ukrainian chief prosecutor, why would the successor to Shokhin, Yuriy Lutsenko, possibly be acceptable? Lutsenko, after all, had "no legal background as general prosecutor," was principally known only as a lackey of Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, was forced in 2009 to "resign as interior minister after being detained by police at Frankfurt airport for being drunk and disorderly," and "was subsequently jailed for embezzlement and abuse of office, though his defenders said the sentence was politically motivated."

Is it remotely convincing to you that Biden would have accepted someone like Lutsenko if his motive really were to fortify anti-corruption prosecutions in Ukraine? Yet that's exactly what Biden did: he personally told Poroshenko that Lutsenko was an acceptable alternative and promptly released the $1 billion after his appointment was announced. Whatever Biden's motive was in using his power as U.S. Vice President to change the prosecutor in Ukraine, his acceptance of someone like Lutsenko strongly suggests that combatting Ukrainian corruption was not it.

As for the other claim on which Biden and his media allies have heavily relied -- that firing Shokhin was not a favor for Burisma because Shokhin was not pursuing any investigations against Burisma -- the evidence does not justify that assertion.

It is true that no evidence, including these new emails, constitute proof that Biden's motive in demanding Shokhin's termination was to benefit Burisma. But nothing demonstrates that Shokhin was impeding investigations into Burisma. Indeed, the New York Times in 2019 published one of the most comprehensive investigations to date of the claims made in defense of Biden when it comes to Ukraine and the firing of this prosecutor, and, while noting that "no evidence has surfaced that the former vice president intentionally tried to help his son by pressing for the prosecutor general's dismissal," this is what its reporters concluded about Shokhin and Burisma:

[Biden's] pressure campaign eventually worked. The prosecutor general, long a target of criticism from other Western nations and international lenders, was voted out months later by the Ukrainian Parliament .

Among those who had a stake in the outcome was Hunter Biden , Mr. Biden's younger son, who at the time was on the board of an energy company owned by a Ukrainian oligarch who had been in the sights of the fired prosecutor general .

The Times added: "Mr. Shokhin's office had oversight of investigations into [Burisma's billionaire founder] Zlochevsky and his businesses, including Burisma." By contrast, they said, Lutsenko, the replacement approved by Vice President Biden, "initially continued investigating Mr. Zlochevsky and Burisma, but cleared him of all charges within 10 months of taking office."

So whether or not it was Biden's intention to confer benefits on Burisma by demanding Shokhin's firing, it ended up quite favorable for Burisma given that the utterly inexperienced Lutesenko "cleared [Burisma's founder] of all charges within 10 months of taking office."

The new comprehensive report from journalist Taibbi on Sunday also strongly supports the view that there were clear antagonisms between Shokhin and Burisma, such that firing the Ukrainian prosecutor would have been beneficial for Burisma. Taibbi, who reported for many years while based in Russia and remains very well-sourced in the region, detailed:

For all the negative press about Shokhin, there's no doubt that there were multiple active cases involving Zlochevsky/Burisma during his short tenure. This was even once admitted by American reporters, before it became taboo to describe such cases untethered to words like "dormant." Here's how Ken Vogel at the New York Times put it in May of 2019:

"When Mr. Shokhin became prosecutor general in February 2015, he inherited several investigations into the company and Mr. Zlochevsky, including for suspicion of tax evasion and money laundering. Mr. Shokin also opened an investigation into the granting of lucrative gas licenses to companies owned by Mr. Zlochevsky when he was the head of the Ukrainian Ministry of Ecology and Natural Resources."

Ukrainian officials I reached this week confirmed that multiple cases were active during that time.

"There were different numbers, but from 7 to 14," says Serhii Horbatiuk, former head of the special investigations department for the Prosecutor General's Office, when asked how many Burisma cases there were.

"There may have been two to three episodes combined, and some have already been closed, so I don't know the exact amount." But, Horbatiuk insists, there were many cases, most of them technically started under Yarema, but at least active under Shokin.

The numbers quoted by Horbatiuk gibe with those offered by more recent General Prosecutor Rulsan Ryaboshapka, who last year said there were at one time or another " 13 or 14 " cases in existence involving Burisma or Zlochevsky.

Taibbi reviews real-time reporting in both Ukraine and the U.S. to document several other pending investigations against Burisma and Zlochevsky that was overseen by the prosecutor whose firing Biden demanded. He notes that Shokhin himself has repeatedly said he was pursuing several investigations against Zlochevsky at the time Biden demanded his firing. In sum, Taibbi concludes, "one can't say there's no evidence of active Burisma cases even during the last days of Shokin, who says that it was the February, 2016 seizure order [against Zlochevsky's assets] that got him fired."

And, Taibbi notes, "the story looks even odder when one wonders why the United States would exercise so much foreign policy muscle to get Shokin fired, only to allow in a replacement -- Yuri Lutsenko -- who by all accounts was a spectacularly bigger failure in the battle against corruption in general, and Zlochevsky in particular." In sum: "it's unquestionable that the cases against Burisma were all closed by Shokin's successor, chosen in consultation with Joe Biden, whose son remained on the board of said company for three more years, earning upwards of $50,000 per month."

The publicly known facts, augmented by the recent emails, texts and on-the-record accounts, suggest serious sleaze by Joe Biden's son Hunter in trying to peddle his influence with the Vice President for profit. But they also raise real questions about whether Joe Biden knew about and even himself engaged in a form of legalized corruption. Specifically, these newly revealed information suggest Biden was using his power to benefit his son's business Ukrainian associates, and allowing his name to be traded on while Vice President for his son and brother to pursue business opportunities in China. These are questions which a minimally healthy press would want answered, not buried -- regardless of how many similar or worse scandals the Trump family has.

But the real scandal that has been proven is not the former Vice President's misconduct but that of his supporters and allies in the U.S. media. As Taibbi's headline put it: "With the Hunter Biden Exposé, Suppression is a Bigger Scandal Than the Actual Story."

The reality is the U.S. press has been planning for this moment for four years -- cooking up justifications for refusing to report on newsworthy material that might help Donald Trump get re-elected. One major factor is the undeniable truth that journalists with national outlets based in New York, Washington and West Coast cities overwhelmingly not just favor Joe Biden but are desperate to see Donald Trump defeated.

It takes an enormous amount of gullibility to believe that any humans are capable of separating such an intense partisan preference from their journalistic judgment. Many barely even bother to pretend: critiques of Joe Biden are often attacked first not by Biden campaign operatives but by political reporters at national news outlets who make little secret of their eagerness to help Biden win.

But much of this has to do with the fallout from the 2016 election. During that campaign, news outlets, including The Intercept, did their jobs as journalists by reporting on the contents of newsworthy, authentic documents: namely, the emails published by WikiLeaks from the John Podesta and DNC inboxes which, among other things, revealed corruption so severe that it forced the resignation of the top five officials of the DNC. That the materials were hacked, and that intelligence agencies were suggesting Russia was responsible, not negate the newsworthiness of the documents, which is why media outlets across the country repeatedly reported on their contents.

Nonetheless, journalists have spent four years being attacked as Trump enablers in their overwhelmingly Democratic and liberal cultural circles: the cities in which they live are overwhelmingly Democratic, and their demographic -- large-city, college-educated professionals -- has vanishingly little Trump support. A New York Times survey of campaign data from Monday tells just a part of this story of cultural insularity and homogeniety:

Joe Biden has outraised President Trump on the strength of some of the wealthiest and most educated ZIP codes in the United States, running up the fund-raising score in cities and suburbs so resoundingly that he collected more money than Mr. Trump on all but two days in the last two months....It is not just that much of Mr. Biden's strongest support comes overwhelmingly from the two coasts, which it does.... [U]nder Mr. Trump, Republicans have hemorrhaged support from white voters with college degrees. In ZIP codes with a median household income of at least $100,000, Mr. Biden smashed Mr. Trump in fund-raising, $486 million to only $167 million -- accounting for almost his entire financial edge....One Upper West Side ZIP code -- 10024 -- accounted for more than $8 million for Mr. Biden, and New York City in total delivered $85.6 million for him -- more than he raised in every state other than California....

The median household in the United States was $68,703 in 2019. In ZIP codes above that level, Mr. Biden outraised Mr. Trump by $389.1 million. Below that level, Mr. Trump was actually ahead by $53.4 million.

Wanting to avoid a repeat of feeling scorn and shunning in their own extremely pro-Democratic, anti-Trump circles, national media outlets have spent four years inventing standards for election-year reporting on hacked materials that never previously existed and that are utterly anathema to the core journalistic function. The Washington Post's Executive Editor Marty Baron, for instance, issued a memo full of cautions about how Post reporters should, or should not, discuss hacked materials even if their authenticity is not in doubt.

That a media outlet should even consider refraining from reporting on materials they know to be authentic and in the public interest because of questions about their provenance is the opposite of how journalism has been practiced. In the days before the 2016 election, for instance, the New York Times received by mail one year of Donald Trump's tax returns and -- despite having no idea who sent it to them or how that person obtained it: was is stolen or hacked by a foreign power? -- the Times reported on its contents .

When asked by NPR why they would report on documents when they do not know the source let alone the source's motives in providing them, two-time Pulitzer Prize winner David Barstow compellingly explained what had always been the core principle of journalism: namely, a journalist only cares about two questions -- (1) are documents authentic and (2) are they in the public interest? -- but does not care about what motives a source has in providing the documents or how they were obtained when deciding whether to reporting them:

Michael Barbaro @mikiebarb Why NYT's David Barstow does not care who leaked us Trump's tax return, or what the motivation was. Listen: The Journalist Who Broke Open Trump's Taxes On Why He Doesn't Care Who The Source Is David Barstow, the three-time Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and co-author of the bombshell New York Times investigation of Donald J. Trump's taxes, was asked whether he cared who had anonymously m soundcloud.com

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The U.S. media often laments that people have lost faith in its pronouncements, that they are increasingly viewed as untrustworthy and that many people view Fake News sites are more reliable than established news outlets. They are good at complaining about this, but very bad at asking whether any of their own conduct is responsible for it.

A media outlet that renounces its core function -- pursuing answers to relevant questions about powerful people -- is one that deserves to lose the public's faith and confidence. And that is exactly what the U.S. media, with some exceptions, attempted to do with this story: they took the lead not in investigating these documents but in concocting excuses for why they should be ignored.

As my colleague Lee Fang put it on Sunday : "The partisan double standards in the media are mind boggling this year, and much of the supposedly left independent media is just as cowardly and conformist as the mainstream corporate media. Everyone is reading the room and acting out of fear." Discussing his story from Sunday, Taibbi summed up the most important point this way: "The whole point is that the press loses its way when it cares more about who benefits from information than whether it's true."

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Glen, I just paid for a subscription so that I can say this one FACT. The PODESTA EMAILS WERE NOT THE RESULT OF A HACK.

Please stop reporting this nonsense. The cover story was all part of the plan (approved by HRC) to shift attention to a Trump-Russia collusion narrative that has always been fiction. Guccifer 2.0 was created out of this same scheme. The meta data on the files prove that it's impossible that those emails were hacked, they had to be downloaded on a local device (thumbdrive most likely).

The FISA Abuse, the spying on Trump, The plan to implicate collusion, the Flynn frameup, the Impeachment, The Mueller investigation were not the base crimes, those were all part of a cover up. By you insinuating that the DNC server got hacked (which there is zero evidence for), you are wittingly or unwittingly complicit in perpetuating the lie that it was. You're missing a much, much bigger story here. The biden laptop isn't even the tip of the icebeg here.

Ask yourself this; "Why would dozens of high level DOJ, FBI, CIA and Whitehouse officials in the Obama Administration put their careers on the line and commit literally hundreds of felonies all in an effort to obstruct/neutralize Trump?" That is first question any true journo should be asking right now.

Reply 85 replies Alex G. 23 hr

I became a fan of yours when I was in law school at UC Hastings in 2003. Your the best, for sure. But fuck...

I got to be honest...I'm glad the press is ignoring this story. There's just too much at stake. Biden might be losing his edge, his family might be trading in his name, but who gives a shit? The alternative is worse by light years.

And yeah, I don't trust the "people" out there to get it right. The "people" are rubes. Those idiots voted for this piece of shit once before, they'll do it again, in a heartbeat.

More importantly, you really want to do Rudy Giuliani's work for him? I don't know, I don't get it...why so eager to make the campaign's case for them? It's not a rhetorical question. I just don't get it.

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[Oct 31, 2020] Senate Committee Verifies Bobulinski Evidence On Bidens (So Why Is MSM Covering It Up-)

Oct 31, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Sara Carter via SaraACarter.com,

The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee confirmed Wednesday the information exposed by former Hunter Biden business associate Tony Bobulinski that connects the former Vice President to companies and ventures in China. But you wouldn't know it by following the main stream press.

Bobulinski's bombshell interview with Fox News host Tucker Carlson Tuesday, along with Carlson's follow up exclusive on Wednesday, revealed that Democratic candidate Joe Biden was aware of his son's business questionable overseas business dealings. It should be a huge story. After all, Joe Biden has publicly denied knowing about his son's business ventures in China, Ukraine and other parts of the world.

So why isn't this story on the front page of every newspaper and covered by every cable network?

How is it possible that the majority of main stream media outlets, newspapers and cable networks had no problem running unsubstantiated stories about President Donald Trump, his family and his businesses only to find out later – without corrections- that the information they published was bogus.

Here, there is an eye witness to the Biden family operations: Bobulinski. He has come forward and shown his credibility. He has verified documents, photos, receipts from Hunter Biden's hard drive that the FBI had obtained, along with President Trump's friend and personal lawyer former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

Why hasn't the FBI done anything with this before the election? The bureau has had it for almost a year. Giuliani then did the only thing he could do – he turned over the documents to The New York Post. Those documents obtained from Hunter Biden's laptop are the massive breadcrumbs to a real political scandal.

These documents raise serious questions as to whether or not our possible future president really is compromised by foreign adversaries, or whether or not he was using his position in government to profit his family.

Still, it's only crickets from the main stream media. At the same time, big tech giants like Twitter, Google and Facebook are also working diligently to squash the story and keep the truth from the American people.

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Tucker Carlson had the highest ratings – historic ratings – at Fox News Tuesday night with more than 7 million viewers tuning in for the Bobulinski story. Yet, the Bobulinski interview wasn't trending on Twitter, and in fact, it appeared that his story was non-existent on the other networks.

Not even the Senators, who held a hearing on Wednesday, could get a straight answer from Twitter's CEO Jack Dorsey on why his platform banned The New York Post stories.

Sen. Ted Cruz said on Twitter "What @Jack told the Senate, under oath, is false."

"I just tried to tweet the @nypost story alleging Biden's CCP corruption. Still Blocked."

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Censorship in full force. However, this is not like the old Soviet censorship – this is a bizarre new self-censorship by elitist leftists who believe they know what's best for the American people.

Think about this – what if this story was about information these news agencies discovered on Donald Trump Jr. or Eric Trump. How would they treat it?

Let's start with the most widely discussed and central to the issue of alleged corruption was Hunter Biden's paid position on the board of Ukrainian energy giant Burisma Holdings. Despite the fact Hunter Biden had no background in energy he was being paid more than $50,000 a month and in some instances as much as $83,000 a month.

What about the most concerning connection for the Biden's with China's CEFC, an energy giant that is compared to Goldman Sachs. It is directly connected to the Chinese Communist Party and according to Bobulinski, as well as senior lawmakers investigating, possible used as leverage against the Bidens by the communist government.

"Joe Biden and the Biden family are compromised" said Bobulinski in Tuesday night's hour long interview with Carlson. He said he turned over evidence to the FBI and openly spoke about his alleged meetings with then Vice President Joe Biden. Biden is referred to by his son Hunter Biden in emails obtained by the FBI and first published by The New York Post as the 'Big Guy' and or 'the Chairman.'

Bobulinski revealed that he "held a top-secret clearance from the NSA and the DOE. I served this country for four years in one of the most elite environments in the world, the Naval Nuclear Power Training Command, and to have a congressmen out there speaking about Russian disinformation or Joe Biden at a public debate referencing Russian disinformation when he knows he sat face-to-face with me, I traveled around the world with his son and his brother. To say that and associate that with my name is absolutely disgusting to me ."

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Joe Biden, however, has publicly denied having any financial gain from his son's, Hunter, business ventures. He said at the second Presidential debate, "I have not taken a penny from any foreign source ever in my life." However, Biden has refused to answer any questions regarding the allegations or address some of the accusations against him or his son.

The American public has the right to know if their next president has been compromised by their families business dealings with the communist Chinese. Moreover, many of the business ventures his son was connected with were during his tenure as Vice President.

Our nation has been divided but not by President Trump. It's been divided by an army of bureaucrats, liberal elites, the New Democratic socialists, special interests and more importantly a biased partisan media.

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For now, Americans will be left in the dark. On Wednesday committee Chairman Sen. Ron Johnson, R- WI, told The Daily Caller, that Bobulinski will not be called to testify before the Nov. 3 elections. He said the committee is working to review all the information that has been provided to the committee by Bobulinski.

The information has to be verified, as it is subject to the same false information to Congress laws that verbal or written testimony does.

However, a Johnson spokesperson told the Caller that all the material provided by Bobulinski to the committee is legitimate and verified .

The committee has "also" not come across any "signs" or evidence to suggest the content Hunter Biden and Bobulinksi content is false , the spokesperson added.

It's tragic to think that if by chance – a small remote chance – that Biden actually wins the election justice will never be served and our nation will fundamentally change.

America will be at a crossroads on November 3. The main stream media is doing its part to ensure that the American people are not informed, so it is up to you to vote your conscience and seek out the truth.

Col. Leghorn CSA , 9 hours ago

I suggest enabling RICO charges against any media that conspires to hide the truth.

[Oct 31, 2020] Yes, Hunter Biden is corrupt. It's one of the perks of having a daddy who helps run a global empire. Deal with it by Yasha Levine

Notable quotes:
"... New York Post story ..."
"... If you want a quick rundown of the Burisma op and Hunter's role in it, check out this 2019 report in the Wall Street Journal. This respectable news outlet might not have called what he did there as "corruption" or "graft," but that's exactly what it was: Hunter traded his dad's name and access for money. ..."
Oct 20, 2020 | yasha.substack.com
What's truly scandalous about this whole Hunter thing is that it shows just how normalized elite corruption is in our imperial society and how little anyone at the top cares.

Last week I stepped away from the Internet for 24 hours and came back to find the most ridiculous thing took place: Twitter decided to just straight up censor a New York Post story that weaponized Hunter Biden's boring rich kid degenerate life and his corrupt dealings in Ukraine. This crude attempt at censorship only inflamed interest in this obvious h



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Glenn, was curious for your take on Yasha Levine's piece on the matter. As far as the censorship angle goes, I think you are both in agreement, but as far as just how big a story this really is, he seems to be a little more jaded. https://yasha.substack.com/p/yes-hunter-biden-is-corrupt-its-one

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Political Economist Oct 29

It's unclear at this point how much Joe knew about what was going on. For my part, I suspect he knew but was not actually directing Hunter's activities. I actually also doubt that he has any idea that a piece of the China deal was being held for him, if indeed it was.

That said, I think it is clear that he knew that Hunter was throwing the Biden name around to gin up business deals and he didn't tell him to stop it.

I think it's also clear that the media in general is desperate to avoid any mention of the story...which is, in my mind at least, the best argument to vote for Trump. A lapdog media is no check on the crazy stuff that happens in DC

Reply Cypher Oct 29

Here's Yasha's conclusion:

If you want a quick rundown of the Burisma op and Hunter's role in it, check out this 2019 report in the Wall Street Journal. This respectable news outlet might not have called what he did there as "corruption" or "graft," but that's exactly what it was: Hunter traded his dad's name and access for money.

So it's strange that people have been getting so worked up over this New York Post story. Even if the emails end up being fake or some details were fudged, it's doesn't change anything because they're riffing on something real. If Hunter hadn't sold his access to a Ukrainian oligarch, there would be no story here -- fake emails or no. And that's what's truly scandalous about this whole Hunter Biden thing: It shows just how normalized elite corruption is in our imperial society and how little anyone at the top cares about it.

Watching liberals deflect this reality by screaming about some devious foreign plot to subvert democracy well, it's hard to be shocked or outraged anymore. All you can do now is mock it and laugh.

-- Yasha Levine

PS: Aside from all the other problems, screaming about "the Russians" every time Hunter's corruption comes up is yet another example of the xenophobia and racism that's become totally normalized among our liberal elite.

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Reply SAH 8 hr

Each time I read about Hunter's scandal in Ukraine, I have to think of VP Joe Biden and his family! They all, in this way, traded in VP Biden's name and position! So the real question is, why is this behavior so widespread amongst these family members?! Honestly...without cooperation from the VP, would that have happened to the degree it did?!

Let's see...."If you don't fire the prosecutor, you're not getting the one billion dollars!"

Reply Cypher Oct 29

Also, I see that you brushed on the fact that it might be corruption, but it's been legalized: "But they also raise real questions about whether Joe Biden knew about and even himself engaged in a form of legalized corruption."

So what Levine is saying is that - yeah it's bad, but it's not only legal - it's been going on for years and across both parties.

Reply Candis 22 hr

Yeah..the swamp..we know.

judd 21 hr

from a purely political standpoint, the reason once credible liberal/mainstream sources seek to suppress/malign right wing and conservative voices is simple: these voices would inform policy as most americans would embrace those voices. most people want to hear tucker carlson call looters...looters - especially when no one else is saying it. and want to see fair and impartial handling of media. so every viewpoint is ignored, or derided...this isnt to say that righwing voices are always correct - just that they appeal to a deep seated need that is missing on the left: simplicity. not everything has to be analyzed to death. not everything has shades of white supremacy. not everything reeks of...the list goes on and on. some things are just simple. we need safety. we need a good economy. the truth is multiplex and evolving, and not everything is just because a dark web of college educated journalist elitist say so. trump and his supporters exist because of msm. they enabled him, they created this massive nationwide gaslighting of simple straight forward policies and ideas that most people have held peacefully for decades (like the fact that censorship is indeed bad). and if he wins, it'll be because of the deeply corrupt media elites. and i hope he wins. they deserve it.

on this article, it looks like hunter did some shady stuff, but as for this story, it lacks real credibility, and as a consumer of news in america, i'd ask the question why msm ran with russiagate for 3 years with zero credible evidence but is silent now. the truth is simple. we don't need to go further.

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[Oct 31, 2020] First steal, then find

Is UPS a subsidiary of the US intelligence agencies, or DNC or both ? Who would think about such a possibility ;-)
Oct 31, 2020 | www.rt.com
UPS has found documents that went missing in transit to Tucker Carlson, putting to rest questions about the whereabouts of a trove that the Fox News host had called "damning" of presidential candidate Joe Biden's family.

"After an extensive search, we have found the contents of the package and are arranging for its return," a UPS spokesman told the Daily Beast on Thursday. "UPS will always focus first on our customers and will never stop working to solve issues and make things right."

ALSO ON RT.COM Hunter's ex-business partner says Joe Biden is 'COMPROMISED' by China, while detailing family deals in explosive interview

While the successful search resolved the issue of the documents' whereabouts, questions remain about how they disappeared from a package sent to Carlson in California from a producer in New York -- and who, if anyone, was behind it. Without naming the company involved or specifically saying the papers were purposely targeted and stolen, Carlson suggested on his show on Wednesday night that the disappearance wasn't coincidental.

"As of tonight, the [shipping] company has no idea and no working theory even about what happened to this trove of material – documents that are directly relevant to the presidential campaign just six days from now," Carlson said. The company's executives "seemed baffled and deeply bothered by this, and so are we."

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Carlson described the package as containing confidential documents about the Biden family and said they were "authentic, real and damning." He said he asked a Fox producer in New York to send the documents to him in Los Angeles, where he had traveled to interview former Biden business associated Tony Bobulinski on Tuesday. The package didn't show up on Tuesday morning, prompting UPS to begin an exhaustive search.

Mainstream media critics mocked Carlson for saying the documents had disappeared, including some who suggested that they never existed. HuffPost said Carlson "concocted yet another conspiracy theory " to explain the disappearance of documents related to what they called his "conspiracy theory" about Biden's son, Hunter.

Carlson devoted his entire show on Tuesday night to the Bobulinski interview, which provided more specific allegations about the Biden family's business dealings in China following an Oct. 14 New York Post report on the ventures. Although Bobulinski provided legal documents, text messages and recordings to back up his claims, the interview was largely ignored by other mainstream media outlets.

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[Oct 30, 2020] What Tony Bobulinski told me and why it matters by Tucker Carlson

Oct 30, 2020 | www.foxnews.com

Tuesday night, we heard at length and on camera from one of the Biden family's former business partners. His name is Tony Bobulinski. He's a very successful businessman and a Navy veteran.

Bobulinski spoke to "Tucker Carlson Tonight" for a full hour. He told us he met two separate times with Joe Biden himself. Not just with Joe Biden's son or his brother, but with Joe Biden -- the former vice president and the man now running for president -- to discuss business deals with the communist government of China .

That's a very serious claim, and whatever your political views, it's hard to dismiss it when Tony Bobulinski makes it because Bobulinsky is an unusually credible witness. He's not a partisan, he's not seeking money, he's not seeking publicity. He did not want to come on our show.

But when Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., and the Biden campaign accused Tony Bobulinski of participating in a Russian disinformation effort, he felt he had no choice. That was a slander against him and against his family. So Bobulinski came to us. He arrived with heaps of evidence to bolster the story he was telling. He brought contemporaneous audio recordings, text messages, e-mails, many financial documents.

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By the end of the hour, it was very clear to us that Tony Bobulinski was telling the truth and that Joe Biden was lying. We believe that any honest person who watched the entire hour would come to the same conclusion.

Well, on Wednesday, a Senate committee confirmed it . The Senate Homeland Security Committee reported that all of Tony Bobulinski's documents are, in fact, real. They are authentic. They are not forgeries. This is not Russian disinformation. It is real.

Bobulinski told a remarkable story. Joe Biden -- who, once again, could be president of the United States next week, was planning business deals with America's most formidable global opponent. And when he was caught doing it, Joe Biden lied. And then he went further. He slandered an innocent man as a traitor to his own country. It is clear that Joe Biden did that. That's not a partisan talking point uttered in bad faith on behalf of another presidential campaign. It's true.

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So the question is, what is Joe Biden's excuse for doing that? What is his version of this story? Everyone has a version and we'd like to hear it, but we don't know what Joe Biden's version of the story is, because no one in America's vast media landscape has pressed Joe Biden to answer the question. Instead, reporters at all levels and their editors and their publishers have openly collaborated with Joe Biden's political campaign. That is unprecedented. It has never happened in American history.

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Wednesday morning, the big papers completely ignored what Tony Bobulinski had to say. So did the other television networks. Not a single word about Bobulinski appeared on CNN or anywhere else. Newsweek decided to cover it, but came to the conclusion that the real story was about QAnon somehow. This is Soviet-style suppression of information about a legitimate news story. Days before an election, the ramifications of it are impossible to imagine. But we do know the media cannot continue in the way that it has.

No one believes the media anymore and no one should. You should be offended by this, not because the media are liberal, but because this is an attack on our democracy. You've heard that phrase again and again, but this is what it looks like. In a self-governing country, voters have a right -- an obligation -- to know who they're voting for. In this case, they have the right to know the Democratic nominee for president was a willing partner in his family's lucrative influence-peddling operation, an operation that went on for decades and stretched from China and Ukraine all the way to Oman, Romania, Luxembourg and many other countries. This is not speculation once again, and it's not a partisan attack. It's true, and Tony bobulinski confirmed it.

Bobulinski met with Joe Biden at a hotel bar in Los Angeles in early May of 2017, and when he did, Joe Biden's son introduced Bobulinski this way: "Dad. Here's the individual I told you about that's helping us with the business that we're working on and the Chinese."

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Now, written documents confirmed this is real. At one point, Joe Biden's son texted Tony Bobulinski to say that Joe Biden, his father, was making key decisions about their business deals with China.

CARLSON: When Hunter Biden said his chairman, he was talking about his dad.

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BOBULINSKI: Correct, and what Hunter is referencing there is, he spoke with his father and his father is giving an emphatic 'no' to the ask that I had, which was putting proper governance in place around Oneida Holdings.

CARLSON: So, Joe Biden is vetoing your plan for putting stricter governance in the company. I mean, and it's it's right here in the email.

BOBULINSKI: Yes, Tucker, I want to be very careful in front of the American people. That is not me writing that. That is not me claiming that. That is Hunter Biden writing on his own phone. Typing in that 'I spoke with my chairman,' referencing his father.

All this is spelled out in the clearest possible language in documents that Bobulinski provided us, documents that subsequently federal authorities have authenticated as real.

On May 13, 2017, for example, Hunter Biden got an email explaining how his family would be paid for their deal with the Chinese energy company. His father, Joe Biden, was getting 10%.

BOBULINSKI: In that email, there's a statement where they go through the equity, Jim Biden's referenced as, you know, 10%. It doesn't say Biden, it says Jim. And then it has 10% for the big guy held by H. I 1,000% sit here and know that the big guy is referencing Joe Biden. It's, that's crystal clear to me because I lived it. I met with the former vice president in person multiple times.

That was three years ago, and we still don't know where all that money went, because the media haven't forced Joe Biden to tell us. But Tony, Bobulinski did add a telling detail. Joe Biden's brother, Jim, saw his stake in the deal double from 10% to 20%. Was Jim Biden getting his brother's share again? It might be worth finding out.

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We also know that according to an email from a top Chinese official, this one written on July 26, 2017, the Chinese proposed a $5 million dollar interest-free loan to the Biden family, "based on their trust on [sic] BD [Biden] family." The e-mail continued, "Should this Chinese company, CEFC, keep lending more to the family?" And indeed, CEFC was supposed to send another $5 million dollars to the Bidens' business ventures. Apparently, that money never made it to the business. Where did it go? A recent Senate report suggests it went to Hunter Biden directly. And from there, who knows? Again, no one's asked.

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Tony Bobulinski also told us he learned Hunter Biden became the personal attorney to the chairman of CEFC, Ye Jianming, just as they were tendering 14% of a Russian state-owned energy company. That was a deal valued at $9 billion dollars. It's pretty sleazy. It's pretty amazing, actually, that this happened and no one noticed.

We're not going to spend the next six months leading you through a maze of complex financial transactions. This isn't that complicated: Millions of dollars linked directly to the Communist Party of China went to Joe Biden's family, and not because they're capable businessmen. Jim Biden's one business success appears to have been running a nightclub in Delaware that ultimately went under.

No, the Bidens were cut in on the world's most lucrative business deals, massive infrastructure deals in countries around the world for one reason: Because Joe Biden was a powerful government official willing to leverage his power on behalf of his family.

Now, if that's not a crime, it's very close to a crime and it's certainly something every person voting should know about. The Bidens didn't do this once. They did it for decades. So the question is, how did they get away with it for so long? Tony Bobulinski asked Jim Biden that question directly. To his credit Jim Biden answered that question honestly.

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BOBULINSKI: And I remember looking at Jim Biden and saying, 'How are you guys getting away with this?' Like, 'Aren't you concerned?' And he looked at me and he laughed a little bit and said, 'Plausible deniability.'

CARLSON: He said that out loud.

BOBULINSKI: Yes, he said it directly to me. One on one, in a cabana at the Peninsula Hotel.

"Plausible deniability." In other words, "we lie." We get away with selling access to the U.S. government, which we do not own, because we lie about what we're doing. And as we lie, we try to make those lies plausible. That's why we call it "plausible deniability." That is the answer that Joe Biden's brother gave when asked directly.

So the question is, what is Joe Biden's answer to that question? We wish we knew.

ForFoxSake!!! 1 hour ago Everything that is happening right now is because Trump was right about the swamp, the media, and the ruling class families who have been selling out America for decades. ohhappyday657 1 hour ago Tucker is doing this country a great service. The FBI doesn't seem to want to engage. Mr. Bobulinski is a patriot and we are lucky he came forward. The Bidens need to be called out for their high crimes and misdemeanors. Joe should be impeached for his time as VP. Thank you Tucker. resipsaloquitor ohhappyday657 29 minutes ago You can smell the desperation on the Trump supporters. The lies, the distortions and the grasping, pathetic search for the proverbial Hail Mary to salvage the quickly sinking ship. If Mr. Bobulinski is the best you have the Democrats will 'trump' you with: 227,000 dead Americans, close to 9 million more infected and an economy in tatters. The day of reckoning is approaching and a dozen Bobulinskis won't change that. Trump and his unseemly administration are doomed.

[Oct 30, 2020] Tucker Carlson's interview with Tony Bobulinski is must-see TV by Andrea Widburg

Oct 28, 2020 | www.americanthinker.com

On Tuesday night, Tucker Carlson did something he'd never done before: he dedicated his entire show to a single interview. The person he interviewed was Tony Bobulinski, an experienced international businessman who found himself working with Hunter Biden, James Biden, and others on a deal between the Biden group and CEFC, a Chinese energy company with ties to the communist government and the military. Bobulinski powerfully confirms that Joe Biden was deeply involved in the transaction, which had its beginnings when Joe was still vice president.

Fox News has not yet uploaded (and may never upload) the interview in its entirety. However, the four videos below bring together almost everything from the interview.

Tucker opened by making the point that he was dedicating his show to the Bobulinski interview because the rest of the American media are assiduously ignoring the story, downplaying it, or claiming it's a Russian smear. The leader of the Russian smear approach is, naturally, Rep. Adam Schiff, a man who has all the hallmarks of a conscienceless psychopath. Ironically, it was Schiff's smear about Hunter Biden's hard drive that led Bobulinski, a Democrat, to go public with his story.

If you can't watch the interview, here's a brief overview:

Bobulinksi is a former naval officer with a Q clearance. That's an extremely high clearance level for people working in the Department of Energy -- and Bobulinski worked in the Navy's nuclear program. He comes from a military family and is very proud of that legacy.

After leaving the Navy, Bobulinski became an international businessman. His expertise led to Hunter Biden and his people wooing Bobulinski to give them the business expertise they needed to get their partnership up and running.

The partnership, SinoHawk, was intended to bring together CEFC and the Biden family. Both Hunter and James Biden, after all, brought nothing to the table other than their last name and, with it, the promise that China would have access to political influence at the highest level of American government.

Bobulinski's name recently became public knowledge when James Gilliar, another businessman working on SinoHawk, sent an email to Tony Bobulinski, setting out the terms Gilliar had been negotiating with CEFC. What caught everyone's interest was the statement that Hunter would hold "10[%] for the Big Guy." Bobulinski confirmed that Joe Biden was the "Big Guy."

At this point, Schiff, the media, and Joe Biden, none of whom ever denied the legitimacy of the email, claimed that the whole thing was a Russian smear. This unfounded accusation got Bobulinski's dander up. As a naval officer from a military family and a true patriot, being smeared as a Russian agent was beyond the pale.

Bobulinski demanded that Schiff retract the insult, and when Schiff failed to do so, he went public and did a full document dump. Bobulinski had saved everything -- every document, every email, and every text.

That's the quick background to the interview with Carlson, during which Bobulinski said that

If we had a decent media establishment, this story would be on every front page and at the top of every news hour. Instead, Bobulinski is trying desperately to get Americans to know that he is not a Russian agent and that Joe Biden was in bed with the communist Chinese government, starting when he was vice president and continuing after he left the White House. This screen shot from Memeorandum shows that none of the legacy media outlets is touching the story:

(As an aside, and separate from the Bobulinski interview, a former CIA operations office believes it's entirely possible that Biden was already doing China's bidding in 2012, when the Obama administration gave China free rein in the South China Sea.)

In case the embedded videos do not play, you can find them here , here , here , and here .

We've always known that Joe Biden is an odd bird. Just think of the lies, the egotistical boasting, the offers to fight people, the skinny-dipping, and the way he fondles and sniffs little girls. He is a genuinely creepy man.

It speaks volumes about Washington, D.C. and the Democrat party that Joe spent 47 years in the swamp and rose to the second highest office in the land. What we've learned now, though, irrefutably and without any Russian hokum, is that Joe Biden is also a profoundly corrupt man who willingly sold out America and her allies to enrich himself and his sleazy, incompetent family.

Image: Tony Bobulinski Tucker Carlson interview . Tucker Carlson Show screen grab.

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Fox News has not yet uploaded (and may never upload) the interview in its entirety. However, the four videos below bring together almost everything from the interview.

Tucker opened by making the point that he was dedicating his show to the Bobulinski interview because the rest of the American media are assiduously ignoring the story, downplaying it, or claiming it's a Russian smear. The leader of the Russian smear approach is, naturally, Rep. Adam Schiff, a man who has all the hallmarks of a conscienceless psychopath. Ironically, it was Schiff's smear about Hunter Biden's hard drive that led Bobulinski, a Democrat, to go public with his story.

If you can't watch the interview, here's a brief overview:

Bobulinksi is a former naval officer with a Q clearance. That's an extremely high clearance level for people working in the Department of Energy -- and Bobulinski worked in the Navy's nuclear program. He comes from a military family and is very proud of that legacy.

https://lockerdome.com/lad/9371484590420070?pubid=ld-8832-1542&pubo=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.americanthinker.com&rid=www.americanthinker.com&width=610

After leaving the Navy, Bobulinski became an international businessman. His expertise led to Hunter Biden and his people wooing Bobulinski to give them the business expertise they needed to get their partnership up and running.

The partnership, SinoHawk, was intended to bring together CEFC and the Biden family. Both Hunter and James Biden, after all, brought nothing to the table other than their last name and, with it, the promise that China would have access to political influence at the highest level of American government.

Bobulinski's name recently became public knowledge when James Gilliar, another businessman working on SinoHawk, sent an email to Tony Bobulinski, setting out the terms Gilliar had been negotiating with CEFC. What caught everyone's interest was the statement that Hunter would hold "10[%] for the Big Guy." Bobulinski confirmed that Joe Biden was the "Big Guy."

At this point, Schiff, the media, and Joe Biden, none of whom ever denied the legitimacy of the email, claimed that the whole thing was a Russian smear. This unfounded accusation got Bobulinski's dander up. As a naval officer from a military family and a true patriot, being smeared as a Russian agent was beyond the pale.

Bobulinski demanded that Schiff retract the insult, and when Schiff failed to do so, he went public and did a full document dump. Bobulinski had saved everything -- every document, every email, and every text.

That's the quick background to the interview with Carlson, during which Bobulinski said that

If we had a decent media establishment, this story would be on every front page and at the top of every news hour. Instead, Bobulinski is trying desperately to get Americans to know that he is not a Russian agent and that Joe Biden was in bed with the communist Chinese government, starting when he was vice president and continuing after he left the White House. This screen shot from Memeorandum shows that none of the legacy media outlets is touching the story:

Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/10/tucker_carlsons_interview_with_tony_bobulinski_is_mustsee_tv.html#ixzz6cECCtpGU
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[Oct 30, 2020] This Was A Terrible Mistake -- Apollo's Black Regrets Giving Epstein A Second Chance

The real question is how closely this guy is connected to Wexner
Oct 30, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

In the aftermath of the widespread blowback amid Apollo clients, many of whom have frozen their new capital allocations to the private equity giant in response to recent reports that co-founder Leon Black had paid "suicided" pedophile Jeffrey Epstein $50 million after he was released from jail, during a conference call on Thursday morning discussing Apollo's third-quarter results, Black said he regretted doing business with sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, even though other prominent people had done the same.

"Like many people I respected, I decided to give Epstein a second chance," Black said Thursday during a conference call to discuss Apollo's third-quarter results.

"This was a terrible mistake", the former Drexel banker added pointing out the obvious, although it still remains unclear just what "second chance" services Epstein provided to Black that was worth a whopping $50 million in compensation, but we are confident we will find out soon enough.

And in what may be the greatest example of "whataboutism" in modern history, Black said that Epstein worked with many prominent individuals after he was released from jail, and that "the distinguished reputations of these individuals gave me misplaced comfort."

In other words, if everyone is going to "picnics" on Epstein's underage girl island in their private jets, it's all cool.

Laughably, Black - who is surrounded by the most brilliant financial minds of his generation 24/7 - has said he sought advice from Epstein for matters such as taxes, estate planning and philanthropy.

Apollo hired law firm Dechert LLP to conduct a review that's expected to take 60 to 90 days, according to people familiar with the matter.

That said, we doubt their reputations will be just as "distinguished" once it emerges just what "services" underage girls Epstein was providing them.

Also on the call we learned that despite the posturing, Apollo's clients were not really turned off by the ongoing scandal, and the PE giant raised another $4 billion in the third quarter even though it expects fundraising to slow, co-founder Joshua Harris said on the call.

[Oct 30, 2020] Tucker Carlson's interview with Tony Bobulinski is must-see TV - American Thinker

Oct 30, 2020 | www.americanthinker.com

October 28, 2020 Tucker Carlson's interview with Tony Bobulinski is must-see TV By Andrea Widburg

On Tuesday night, Tucker Carlson did something he'd never done before: he dedicated his entire show to a single interview. The person he interviewed was Tony Bobulinski, an experienced international businessman who found himself working with Hunter Biden, James Biden, and others on a deal between the Biden group and CEFC, a Chinese energy company with ties to the communist government and the military. Bobulinski powerfully confirms that Joe Biden was deeply involved in the transaction, which had its beginnings when Joe was still vice president.

Fox News has not yet uploaded (and may never upload) the interview in its entirety. However, the four videos below bring together almost everything from the interview.

Tucker opened by making the point that he was dedicating his show to the Bobulinski interview because the rest of the American media are assiduously ignoring the story, downplaying it, or claiming it's a Russian smear. The leader of the Russian smear approach is, naturally, Rep. Adam Schiff, a man who has all the hallmarks of a conscienceless psychopath. Ironically, it was Schiff's smear about Hunter Biden's hard drive that led Bobulinski, a Democrat, to go public with his story.

If you can't watch the interview, here's a brief overview:

Bobulinksi is a former naval officer with a Q clearance. That's an extremely high clearance level for people working in the Department of Energy -- and Bobulinski worked in the Navy's nuclear program. He comes from a military family and is very proud of that legacy.

After leaving the Navy, Bobulinski became an international businessman. His expertise led to Hunter Biden and his people wooing Bobulinski to give them the business expertise they needed to get their partnership up and running.

The partnership, SinoHawk, was intended to bring together CEFC and the Biden family. Both Hunter and James Biden, after all, brought nothing to the table other than their last name and, with it, the promise that China would have access to political influence at the highest level of American government.

Bobulinski's name recently became public knowledge when James Gilliar, another businessman working on SinoHawk, sent an email to Tony Bobulinski, setting out the terms Gilliar had been negotiating with CEFC. What caught everyone's interest was the statement that Hunter would hold "10[%] for the Big Guy." Bobulinski confirmed that Joe Biden was the "Big Guy."

At this point, Schiff, the media, and Joe Biden, none of whom ever denied the legitimacy of the email, claimed that the whole thing was a Russian smear. This unfounded accusation got Bobulinski's dander up. As a naval officer from a military family and a true patriot, being smeared as a Russian agent was beyond the pale.

Bobulinski demanded that Schiff retract the insult, and when Schiff failed to do so, he went public and did a full document dump. Bobulinski had saved everything -- every document, every email, and every text.

That's the quick background to the interview with Carlson, during which Bobulinski said that

If we had a decent media establishment, this story would be on every front page and at the top of every news hour. Instead, Bobulinski is trying desperately to get Americans to know that he is not a Russian agent and that Joe Biden was in bed with the communist Chinese government, starting when he was vice president and continuing after he left the White House. This screen shot from Memeorandum shows that none of the legacy media outlets is touching the story:

(As an aside, and separate from the Bobulinski interview, a former CIA operations office believes it's entirely possible that Biden was already doing China's bidding in 2012, when the Obama administration gave China free rein in the South China Sea.)

In case the embedded videos do not play, you can find them here , here , here , and here .

We've always known that Joe Biden is an odd bird. Just think of the lies, the egotistical boasting, the offers to fight people, the skinny-dipping, and the way he fondles and sniffs little girls. He is a genuinely creepy man.

It speaks volumes about Washington, D.C. and the Democrat party that Joe spent 47 years in the swamp and rose to the second highest office in the land. What we've learned now, though, irrefutably and without any Russian hokum, is that Joe Biden is also a profoundly corrupt man who willingly sold out America and her allies to enrich himself and his sleazy, incompetent family.

Image: Tony Bobulinski Tucker Carlson interview . Tucker Carlson Show screen grab.

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Fox News has not yet uploaded (and may never upload) the interview in its entirety. However, the four videos below bring together almost everything from the interview.

Tucker opened by making the point that he was dedicating his show to the Bobulinski interview because the rest of the American media are assiduously ignoring the story, downplaying it, or claiming it's a Russian smear. The leader of the Russian smear approach is, naturally, Rep. Adam Schiff, a man who has all the hallmarks of a conscienceless psychopath. Ironically, it was Schiff's smear about Hunter Biden's hard drive that led Bobulinski, a Democrat, to go public with his story.

If you can't watch the interview, here's a brief overview:

Bobulinksi is a former naval officer with a Q clearance. That's an extremely high clearance level for people working in the Department of Energy -- and Bobulinski worked in the Navy's nuclear program. He comes from a military family and is very proud of that legacy.

https://lockerdome.com/lad/9371484590420070?pubid=ld-8832-1542&pubo=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.americanthinker.com&rid=www.americanthinker.com&width=610

After leaving the Navy, Bobulinski became an international businessman. His expertise led to Hunter Biden and his people wooing Bobulinski to give them the business expertise they needed to get their partnership up and running.

The partnership, SinoHawk, was intended to bring together CEFC and the Biden family. Both Hunter and James Biden, after all, brought nothing to the table other than their last name and, with it, the promise that China would have access to political influence at the highest level of American government.

Bobulinski's name recently became public knowledge when James Gilliar, another businessman working on SinoHawk, sent an email to Tony Bobulinski, setting out the terms Gilliar had been negotiating with CEFC. What caught everyone's interest was the statement that Hunter would hold "10[%] for the Big Guy." Bobulinski confirmed that Joe Biden was the "Big Guy."

At this point, Schiff, the media, and Joe Biden, none of whom ever denied the legitimacy of the email, claimed that the whole thing was a Russian smear. This unfounded accusation got Bobulinski's dander up. As a naval officer from a military family and a true patriot, being smeared as a Russian agent was beyond the pale.

Bobulinski demanded that Schiff retract the insult, and when Schiff failed to do so, he went public and did a full document dump. Bobulinski had saved everything -- every document, every email, and every text.

That's the quick background to the interview with Carlson, during which Bobulinski said that

If we had a decent media establishment, this story would be on every front page and at the top of every news hour. Instead, Bobulinski is trying desperately to get Americans to know that he is not a Russian agent and that Joe Biden was in bed with the communist Chinese government, starting when he was vice president and continuing after he left the White House. This screen shot from Memeorandum shows that none of the legacy media outlets is touching the story:

Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/10/tucker_carlsons_interview_with_tony_bobulinski_is_mustsee_tv.html#ixzz6cECCtpGU
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[Oct 30, 2020] Hunter Biden Documents Mysteriously Vanish From Overnight Envelope, Tucker Carlson Says

Oct 30, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Ivan Pentchoukov via The Epoch Times,

A collection of confidential documents related to the Biden family mysteriously vanished from an envelope sent to Fox News host Tucker Carlson , the host said on Wednesday night.

Carlson's team allegedly received the documents from a source on Monday. At the time, Carlson was on the West Coast filming an interview with Tony Bobulinski, the former business partner of Hunter Biden and James Biden. Carlson requested the documents to be sent to the West Coast.

According to Carlson, the producer shipped the documents overnight to California using a large national package carrier. He didn't name the company, saying only that it's a "brand name company."

"The Biden documents never arrived in Los Angeles. Tuesday morning we received word from our shipping company that our package had been opened and the contents were missing," Carlson said. "The documents had disappeared."

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The company took the incident seriously and immediately began a search, Carlson said. The company traced the package from when it was dropped off in New York to the moment when an employee at a sorting facility reported that the package was opened and empty.

" The company's security team interviewed every employee who touched the envelope we sent. They searched the plane and the trucks that carried it. They went through the office in New York where our producers dropped the package off. They combed the entire cavernous sorting facility. They used pictures of what we had sent so that searchers would know what to look for," Carlson said.

"They far and beyond, but they found nothing."

"Those documents have vanished," he added.

"As of tonight, the company has no idea and no working theory even about what happened to this trove of materials, documents that are directly relevant to the presidential campaign just six days from now."

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Executives at the shipping company were "baffled" and "deeply bothered" by the incident, Carlson said.

Carlson's interview with Bobulinski aired on Tuesday night. In the interview, Bobulinski opined that Joe Biden and the Biden family are compromised by China due to the business dealings of Hunter Biden and James Biden. Joe Biden has not publicly responded to Bobulinski's allegations, but during a presidential debate on Oct. 22 said he had "not taken a penny from any foreign source ever in my life."

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Bobulinski provided more than 1,700 pages of emails and more than 600 screenshots of text messages to Senate investigators and handed over to the FBI the smartphones he used during his business dealings with the Bidens. The documents detailed a failed joint venture between a billionaire tied to the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and a company owned by Hunter Biden, James Biden, Bobulinski and two other partners.

While the corporate documents don't mention Biden by name, emails sent between the partners suggest that either James Biden or Hunter Biden held a 10 percent stake for the former vice president. In the email, the stake is assigned to "the big guy," who Bobulinski says is Joe Biden.


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I heard Tucker talk about this earlier tonight and realized we are FULLY controlled now. Whatever the **** is going on, whether this is true or not doesn't matter. We are just unwitting participants in some kind of TV reality show now. Everything is meaningless.

lwilland1012 , 5 minutes ago

Please tell me he was smart enough to make copies...

CatInTheHat , 1 minute ago

Ok.

What was IN the documents and from whom?

This is an inside job. Probably a never Trumper at Fox. There are a few.

quanttech , 3 minutes ago

If Trump loses, Fox will go full Dem. Trump will start TrumpTV, and Tucker will need a job....

btw, Tucker should get the Nobel Peace Prize for keeping us out of Iran for the last 3.5 years.

Nona Yobiznes , 4 minutes ago

This story doesn't make sense. You sent confidential, highly sensitive documents via post? Because Tucker was on the west coast? You couldn't scan them in? Were they originals, and are there copies? This doesn't smell right.

icolbowca , 6 minutes ago

Takes a special kind of moron to send something like that via mail...

[Oct 30, 2020] UPS Suddenly Locates -Lost- Biden Evidence, Returning Docs To Tucker Carlson -

Notable quotes:
"... Biden's campaign earlier this month said Biden never had a meeting with an executive at a shady Ukrainian gas company, Burisma Holdings, while he was the vice president and his son sat on the board of the firm. A report from the New York Post, citing alleged Hunter Biden emails, suggested Hunter Biden had arranged a meeting between him, the executive, and Joe Biden. ..."
Oct 30, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Jack Phillips via The Epoch Times,

Delivery giant UPS confirmed Thursday it found a lost trove of documents that Fox News' Tucker Carlson said would provide revelations in the ever-growing scandal involving Joe Biden 's son Hunter and his overseas business dealings.

UPS Senior Public Relations Manager Matthew O'Connor told Business Insider on Thursday afternoon that the documents are located and are being sent to Carlson.

"After an extensive search, we have found the contents of the package and are arranging for its return," he said in a statement.

"UPS will always focus first on our customers, and will never stop working to solve issues and make things right. We work hard to ensure every package is delivered, including essential goods, precious family belongings and critical healthcare."

It came after Glenn Zaccara, UPS's corporate media relations director, confirmed Carlson used the company to ship the materials before they were lost.

"The package was reported with missing contents as it moved within our network," Zaccara said before they were located. "UPS is conducting an urgent investigation."

During his Wednesday night broadcast, Carlson said that a UPS employee notified them that their package "was open and empty apparently, it had been opened."

"The Biden documents never arrived in Los Angeles. Tuesday morning we received word from our shipping company that our package had been opened and the contents were missing," Carlson also remarked. "The documents had disappeared."

On Tuesday night, Carlson interviewed former Hunter Biden associate Tony Bobulinski, who claimed that the former Democratic vice president could be compromised by the Chinese Communist Party due to Hunter and brother James Biden's business dealings in the country.

Joe Biden has not responded to Bobulinski's allegations. Last week during his debate with President Donald Trump, he said he had "not taken a penny from any foreign source ever in my life."

Biden's campaign earlier this month said Biden never had a meeting with an executive at a shady Ukrainian gas company, Burisma Holdings, while he was the vice president and his son sat on the board of the firm. A report from the New York Post, citing alleged Hunter Biden emails, suggested Hunter Biden had arranged a meeting between him, the executive, and Joe Biden.

It's now possible that a special counsel will investigate Joe Biden should he win the presidency.

"You know, I am not a big fan of special counsels, but if Joe Biden wins the presidency, I don't see how you avoid one," Senate Homeland Security Chairman Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.) said . "Otherwise, this is going to be, you know, tucked away, and we will never know what happened. All this evidence is going to be buried."

UPS did not provide further details about the apparent mishap.

[Oct 30, 2020] Bobulinski will sing tonight - Sic Semper Tyrannis

Notable quotes:
"... Hunter Biden is the modern equivalent of the pre-Reformation papacy selling indulgences. Cash in exchange for unfettered passage into the promised land ..."
Oct 30, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

Bobulinski will sing tonight


"Former Biden insider Tony Bobulinski allegedly has a recording of Biden family operatives begging him to stay quiet , or he will "bury" the reputations of everyone involved in Hunter's overseas dealings.

According to The Federalist 's Sean Davis, Bobulinski will play the tape on Fox News' "Tucker Carlson Tonight" on Tuesday , when Carlson will devote his show 'entirely' to an interview with the Biden whistleblower."

"According to a source familiar with the planning, Bobulinski will play recordings of Biden family operatives begging him to stay quiet and claiming Bobulinski's revelations will "bury" the reputations of everyone involved in Hunter's overseas deals."

As The Federalist notes:

The Federalist confirmed with sources familiar with the plans that Bobulinski, a retired Navy lieutenant and Biden associate, will be airing tapes of Biden operatives begging Bobulinski to remain quiet as former Vice President Joe Biden nears the finish line to the White House next week.

Bobulinski flipped on the Bidens following a Senate report which revealed that they received a $5 million interest-free loan from a now-bankrupt Chinese energy company .

According to the former Biden insider, he was introduced to Joe Biden by Hunter, and they had an hour-long meeting where they discussed the Biden's business plans with the Chinese, with which he says Joe was "plainly familiar at least at a high level." " Zerohedge

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First of all, Bobulinski is NOT a "retired Navy lieutenant." He is a former Navy Lieutenant.

Well, folks, it's up to you to watch TC's show tonight if you want to learn about this. Tucker's show is the most watched news show in the history of cable television, so the pain should not be too great, pl

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/youll-bury-everyone-involved-bobulinski-recorded-biden-operatives-begging-him-stay-quiet


ked , 27 October 2020 at 11:31 AM

I don't watch cable TV so I'll have to depend on the objectivity of observers. I'll be curious who / what is a "family operative"? are they traceable like a military chain-of-command?

in related news, we can get a fix on the play between private / public behaviors & the pace of Justice winding.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/10/federal-judge-smacks-down-bill-barrs-attempt-to-have-doj-defend-trump-in-rape-defamation-case/

I am willing to predict that these examples will have equal impact on the election.

Diana L Croissant , 27 October 2020 at 11:59 AM

Tucker Carlson's show is my favorite news/commentary show. I try not to miss it. Because of the fact that he seems to try hard to verify his sources--and the people he interviews, I trust him. He also tries to provide guests from the left in an attempt to be fair.

He's definitely not a Hannity, who is the one who turns many off of FOX (though Hannity comes right after Tucker).

Deap , 27 October 2020 at 01:23 PM

Hunter Biden is the modern equivalent of the pre-Reformation papacy selling indulgences. Cash in exchange for unfettered passage into the promised land .

Paco , 27 October 2020 at 03:37 PM

selling indulgences.

If St. James day is on Sunday Indulgentia Plena.

Fred , 27 October 2020 at 03:42 PM

Ked,

Thank goodness the Federal Judge has allowed the lawsuit by the private citizen and writer, based on the 1990s allegation, to procede without government interference. I'm sure nobody will do that to democrats in the future. Meanwhile in the Flynn case the DOJ confirms that the govenment documents and discovery exhibits are ture and correct. I'm sure Judge Sullivan will procede expeditiously with granting the unopposed motion to dismiss that case.

https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1320935992329687040

GEORGE CHAMBERLAIN , 27 October 2020 at 04:08 PM

This story interests me because I believe he is the first to leave the sinking ship but not the last.
There would be no reason for this if he thought Joe would win and the investigation would be snuffed out.
If Trump wins there will most likely be a new version of "Let's Make A Deal" being aired on the nightly news.
I am down to one package of popcorn. I need to restock.

Norber M Salamon , 27 October 2020 at 04:18 PM

another interesting tid-bit:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hunter-biden-confesses-partnership-china-spy-chief-fumes-after-he-and-joe-named-criminal

Lyttennnburgh , 27 October 2020 at 04:30 PM

2Deap

Actually, indulgences were more akin to BitCoins. Especially after 1567, when His Holiness the Pope finally officially banned them... but they had been still produced and sold in large quantities. In France only Richeliue put a stop to this con.

turcopolier , 27 October 2020 at 04:35 PM

Lyttenburgh

Yes, the Catholic Church is so old that it has been corrupt and reformed many times

Fred , 27 October 2020 at 08:04 PM

George,

"version of "Let's Make A Deal""

The democrats turned that down a couple weeks ago, thus this is blowing up in their faces right now.

james , 27 October 2020 at 08:28 PM

lol! you are filling in some of the many blanks in my musical knowledge... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbX2diR9b4U

GEORGE CHAMBERLAIN , 27 October 2020 at 08:34 PM

Serve me my plate a Crow. Maybe.
He is saying now that he is 2nd generation military and that they pissed him off claiming he was a Russian asset.
That is plausible.
Maybe it is both?
Regardless it seems he has a great deal of proof.

Diana L Croissant , 27 October 2020 at 09:20 PM

I was convinced during the interview. Bobulinsky seemed pretty convincing in his concern for his own reputation, having been associated with the Biden "Mafia" in the first place.

It was clear during the interview that he had provided Tucker verification for his claims.

I am more concerned that this revelation comes too late and that many, many people have voted early. He referenced some hearings that will be held in Congress. I doubt that will affect the election, given the slow pace of anything getting done in Congress. I voted early, but I am not personally concerned because I did NOT vote for Biden; however, I am concerned that those who voted early for Biden could not now change their votes.

elaine , 27 October 2020 at 09:22 PM

ked, Tucker Carlson Tonight shows are usually on YouTube shortly
after they air on cable

turcopolier , 27 October 2020 at 09:25 PM

james

Yes. You have to watch out for unannounced medical visits. "Guido, get in the wagon, you need a check up."

akaPatience , 27 October 2020 at 10:12 PM

SO, if I understand the situation correctly, Bobulinski was essentially sought after, used and then screwed by the Bidens, which seems risky on the part of the clan. But I guess if Joe wins the election, they will have gotten away with it as I can't imagine, in spite of any damning evidence, the Bidens will suffer the same punishing rectal examination-like scrutiny and vilification the Trump family's been subjected to.

Eric Newhill , 27 October 2020 at 10:12 PM

Col Lang,
Hoping you write about your assessment of B and what he had to say.

I found him to be generally credible. All of his motives for singing largely make sense to me. I think he's a patriot. Some good supporting evidence. He's sharp. I liked him. He's the kind of guy I'd enjoy working with.

I don't know anything about the realm of international deal making and finance. I'm wondering how a Navy O3 works his way to enjoying yachts in Monaco while making $millions. Is he an Annapolis guy? Tight with the right classmates? Not a lot to be found on him via Google.

turcopolier , 27 October 2020 at 10:22 PM

Eric Newhill

He was no longer in the navy when he was messing around with the Biden familia. He was probably in the Navy three or four years. He ought to lay off on that. I'll think it over tonight.

turcopolier , 27 October 2020 at 10:24 PM

akapatience
Yes, bend over for the Silver Stallion. "Ah, I see a polyp!"

Fred , 27 October 2020 at 10:37 PM

akapatience,

Once Wray's FBI gets done with the Rusty Wallace Noose Case they'll have time to deep dive the laptop he's had for almost a year.

Col.,

Bobulinski seemed awful polished during that interview. Almost too good to be true. Hunter being a druggy and Burisma payments being real certainly lend an air to credibility.

Deap , 28 October 2020 at 01:55 AM

Adam Schiff:........"Bobolinski is a Russian agent".
BAM!

Executive summary of the interview.

Bobo , 28 October 2020 at 07:52 AM

Turns out Patrick Ho Hunters partner in CEFC had a FISA warrant on him when he was nabbed in New York awhile back. His first call was to Hunter to seek legal advice and Hunter represented him. So them scumbags in the FBI have been sitting on this for awhile and will use it on Joe (if elected) when needed. Must be modus operandi at the FBI in gathering dirt on all politicians via FISA's, Hoover is still there.
As with all of us Bobulinski is not lily white but is making an effort to clean his act and those around him. Lily White always comes in degrees. Not much in the NY Times, Wash Post or WSJ this morning but the WSJ deserves a little credit with McBurn's editorial.
Bobulinski obviously comes from a military family thus his harping on his Navy creds. Guess when your in that much sunshine you fall back strongly on anything available.

fakebot , 28 October 2020 at 09:25 AM

I don't doubt his credibility and it's good that he at least got on Tucker Carlson to provide some much needed answers, but he's not a known quantity and I have hard time imagining his revelations will change minds.

I think the FBI sandbagging the whole affair is what holds back this story getting the attention it deserves from the public. The president I'm sorry to say has been badly served by Wray, Haspel, and company. I think he should have replaced them months ago and waiting until reelection to do it may have been a mistake.

[Oct 30, 2020] Tucker Carlson- What Tony Bobulinski told me and why it matters - Fox News

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Tuesday night, we heard at length and on camera from one of the Biden family's former business partners. His name is Tony Bobulinski. He's a very successful businessman and a Navy veteran.

Bobulinski spoke to "Tucker Carlson Tonight" for a full hour. He told us he met two separate times with Joe Biden himself. Not just with Joe Biden's son or his brother, but with Joe Biden -- the former vice president and the man now running for president -- to discuss business deals with the communist government of China .

That's a very serious claim, and whatever your political views, it's hard to dismiss it when Tony Bobulinski makes it because Bobulinsky is an unusually credible witness. He's not a partisan, he's not seeking money, he's not seeking publicity. He did not want to come on our show.

But when Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., and the Biden campaign accused Tony Bobulinski of participating in a Russian disinformation effort, he felt he had no choice. That was a slander against him and against his family. So Bobulinski came to us. He arrived with heaps of evidence to bolster the story he was telling. He brought contemporaneous audio recordings, text messages, e-mails, many financial documents.

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By the end of the hour, it was very clear to us that Tony Bobulinski was telling the truth and that Joe Biden was lying. We believe that any honest person who watched the entire hour would come to the same conclusion.

Well, on Wednesday, a Senate committee confirmed it . The Senate Homeland Security Committee reported that all of Tony Bobulinski's documents are, in fact, real. They are authentic. They are not forgeries. This is not Russian disinformation. It is real.

Bobulinski told a remarkable story. Joe Biden -- who, once again, could be president of the United States next week, was planning business deals with America's most formidable global opponent. And when he was caught doing it, Joe Biden lied. And then he went further. He slandered an innocent man as a traitor to his own country. It is clear that Joe Biden did that. That's not a partisan talking point uttered in bad faith on behalf of another presidential campaign. It's true.

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So the question is, what is Joe Biden's excuse for doing that? What is his version of this story? Everyone has a version and we'd like to hear it, but we don't know what Joe Biden's version of the story is, because no one in America's vast media landscape has pressed Joe Biden to answer the question. Instead, reporters at all levels and their editors and their publishers have openly collaborated with Joe Biden's political campaign. That is unprecedented. It has never happened in American history.

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Wednesday morning, the big papers completely ignored what Tony Bobulinski had to say. So did the other television networks. Not a single word about Bobulinski appeared on CNN or anywhere else. Newsweek decided to cover it, but came to the conclusion that the real story was about QAnon somehow. This is Soviet-style suppression of information about a legitimate news story. Days before an election, the ramifications of it are impossible to imagine. But we do know the media cannot continue in the way that it has.

No one believes the media anymore and no one should. You should be offended by this, not because the media are liberal, but because this is an attack on our democracy. You've heard that phrase again and again, but this is what it looks like. In a self-governing country, voters have a right -- an obligation -- to know who they're voting for. In this case, they have the right to know the Democratic nominee for president was a willing partner in his family's lucrative influence-peddling operation, an operation that went on for decades and stretched from China and Ukraine all the way to Oman, Romania, Luxembourg and many other countries. This is not speculation once again, and it's not a partisan attack. It's true, and Tony bobulinski confirmed it.

Bobulinski met with Joe Biden at a hotel bar in Los Angeles in early May of 2017, and when he did, Joe Biden's son introduced Bobulinski this way: "Dad. Here's the individual I told you about that's helping us with the business that we're working on and the Chinese."

The man I told you about.

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Now, written documents confirmed this is real. At one point, Joe Biden's son texted Tony Bobulinski to say that Joe Biden, his father, was making key decisions about their business deals with China.

CARLSON: When Hunter Biden said his chairman, he was talking about his dad.

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BOBULINSKI: Correct, and what Hunter is referencing there is, he spoke with his father and his father is giving an emphatic 'no' to the ask that I had, which was putting proper governance in place around Oneida Holdings.

CARLSON: So, Joe Biden is vetoing your plan for putting stricter governance in the company. I mean, and it's it's right here in the email.

BOBULINSKI: Yes, Tucker, I want to be very careful in front of the American people. That is not me writing that. That is not me claiming that. That is Hunter Biden writing on his own phone. Typing in that 'I spoke with my chairman,' referencing his father.

All this is spelled out in the clearest possible language in documents that Bobulinski provided us, documents that subsequently federal authorities have authenticated as real.

On May 13, 2017, for example, Hunter Biden got an email explaining how his family would be paid for their deal with the Chinese energy company. His father, Joe Biden, was getting 10%.

BOBULINSKI: In that email, there's a statement where they go through the equity, Jim Biden's referenced as, you know, 10%. It doesn't say Biden, it says Jim. And then it has 10% for the big guy held by H. I 1,000% sit here and know that the big guy is referencing Joe Biden. It's, that's crystal clear to me because I lived it. I met with the former vice president in person multiple times.

That was three years ago, and we still don't know where all that money went, because the media haven't forced Joe Biden to tell us. But Tony, Bobulinski did add a telling detail. Joe Biden's brother, Jim, saw his stake in the deal double from 10% to 20%. Was Jim Biden getting his brother's share again? It might be worth finding out.

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We also know that according to an email from a top Chinese official, this one written on July 26, 2017, the Chinese proposed a $5 million dollar interest-free loan to the Biden family, "based on their trust on [sic] BD [Biden] family." The e-mail continued, "Should this Chinese company, CEFC, keep lending more to the family?" And indeed, CEFC was supposed to send another $5 million dollars to the Bidens' business ventures. Apparently, that money never made it to the business. Where did it go? A recent Senate report suggests it went to Hunter Biden directly. And from there, who knows? Again, no one's asked.

JIM BIDEN REFUSES TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT FAMILY'S BUSINESS DEALINGS

Tony Bobulinski also told us he learned Hunter Biden became the personal attorney to the chairman of CEFC, Ye Jianming, just as they were tendering 14% of a Russian state-owned energy company. That was a deal valued at $9 billion dollars. It's pretty sleazy. It's pretty amazing, actually, that this happened and no one noticed.

We're not going to spend the next six months leading you through a maze of complex financial transactions. This isn't that complicated: Millions of dollars linked directly to the Communist Party of China went to Joe Biden's family, and not because they're capable businessmen. Jim Biden's one business success appears to have been running a nightclub in Delaware that ultimately went under.

No, the Bidens were cut in on the world's most lucrative business deals, massive infrastructure deals in countries around the world for one reason: Because Joe Biden was a powerful government official willing to leverage his power on behalf of his family.

Now, if that's not a crime, it's very close to a crime and it's certainly something every person voting should know about. The Bidens didn't do this once. They did it for decades. So the question is, how did they get away with it for so long? Tony Bobulinski asked Jim Biden that question directly. To his credit Jim Biden answered that question honestly.

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BOBULINSKI: And I remember looking at Jim Biden and saying, 'How are you guys getting away with this?' Like, 'Aren't you concerned?' And he looked at me and he laughed a little bit and said, 'Plausible deniability.'

CARLSON: He said that out loud.

BOBULINSKI: Yes, he said it directly to me. One on one, in a cabana at the Peninsula Hotel.

"Plausible deniability." In other words, "we lie." We get away with selling access to the U.S. government, which we do not own, because we lie about what we're doing. And as we lie, we try to make those lies plausible. That's why we call it "plausible deniability." That is the answer that Joe Biden's brother gave when asked directly.

So the question is, what is Joe Biden's answer to that question? We wish we knew.

ForFoxSake!!! 1 hour ago Everything that is happening right now is because Trump was right about the swamp, the media, and the ruling class families who have been selling out America for decades. ohhappyday657 1 hour ago Tucker is doing this country a great service. The FBI doesn't seem to want to engage. Mr. Bobulinski is a patriot and we are lucky he came forward. The Bidens need to be called out for their high crimes and misdemeanors. Joe should be impeached for his time as VP. Thank you Tucker. resipsaloquitor ohhappyday657 29 minutes ago You can smell the desperation on the Trump supporters. The lies, the distortions and the grasping, pathetic search for the proverbial Hail Mary to salvage the quickly sinking ship. If Mr. Bobulinski is the best you have the Democrats will 'trump' you with: 227,000 dead Americans, close to 9 million more infected and an economy in tatters. The day of reckoning is approaching and a dozen Bobulinskis won't change that. Trump and his unseemly administration are doomed.

[Oct 30, 2020] Plausible Deniability

Oct 30, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

"Plausible Deniability"


" ... the former CEO of SinoHawk Holdings, which he said was the partnership between the CEFC Chairman Ye Jianming and the two Biden family members.

"I remember saying, 'How are you guys getting away with this?' 'Aren't you concerned?'" he told Carlson.

He claims that Jim Biden chuckled.

"'Plausible Deniability,' he said it directly to me in a cabana at the Peninsula Hotel," he said.

In the interview, he outlines how an alleged meeting with Joe Biden took place on May 2, 2017. Fox News first reported text messages that indicated such a meeting. Bobulinski said that it was the Bidens, not him, who had pushed the meeting.

"They were sort of wining and dining me and presenting the strength of the Biden family to get me engaged and to take on the CEO role to develop SinoHawk in the U.S. and around the world in partnership with CEFC," he said.

He went at length into how Joe Biden arrived for a Milken conference, partly held at the Beverly Hilton Hotel, and how he was introduced by Jim and Hunter Biden to the former vice president.

"I didn't request to meet with Joe" Biden, he said. "They requested that I meet with Joe [Biden ]. They were putting their entire family legacy on the line. They knew exactly what they were doing."" FN

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Bobulinski is a successful international business hustler. I know the type well. The Biden familia wanted him in this China deal for the purpose of having him hold the reins of this enterprise even as they looted it for the purpose of quickly enriching the fam.

A TV commentator remarked last night after watching the interview that this defection from the Biden camp is reflective of an old business truth which can be stated as "don't screw your partner if he has enough material to sink you."

I am unimpressed with selfless patriotism as Bobu's most basic motivation in sticking it to Joe, Jimmy and Hunter Biden. A sense of betrayal in a business deal wrecked by the Bidens' overwhelming greed and their desire to consolidate family riches as fast as they could is a more plausible. motivation.

This does not mean that Bobu is not telling the truth. His collection of e-mails addressed to him and incriminating memoranda is most impressive.

IMO, what has been revealed is a truth with regard to the Biden crime family. They are nouveau riche grifters who will have a much grander stage for their efforts if Joe is elected as a presidential figurehead. pl

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/plausible-deniability-tony-bobulinski-biden-family


Deap , 28 October 2020 at 11:39 AM

Did Hunter Biden's young business partners bring anything of value to the table, or were they just name brand ride-alongs too. Archer, Conley, Heinz, etc. Biden was running a very leaky ship, with such a large but relatively unsophisticated and compromised entourage.

jonst , 28 October 2020 at 01:04 PM

I am, and I'm sure this is not an original observation, because it's as the Col notes, singularly unimpressed with the entire lot of them. Bobo, Jim B, Hunter B, Duncan Hunter, Joe B, Bulger's nephew, I've seen more gravitas among bookies, juicemen, and fences, that I grew up with in NYC. And I mean that. Not a throw away line. And THESE guys will run the show? And Harris I find singularity creep, artificial, and somehow just down right inappropriate. I would not select any of them to run a post office.

NancyK , 28 October 2020 at 01:13 PM

I guess it comes down to a choice between the grifters we know and the grifters we don't know. I still trust Joe Biden more than Trump.

Bill H , 28 October 2020 at 01:26 PM

I got a little tired of the man making so much of his "service to his country." Not that it isn't worth quite a lot and I respect him for it, but four years... I served six years, and what I dwell on is how much I loved serving in submarines and the enormous degree that it contributed to building my character. The degree to which my service benefited my country was trivial. It benefited me enormously.

Like you, I think he is telling the truth in that interview.

turcopolier , 28 October 2020 at 01:32 PM

nancyK
What is the evidence that Trump is a "grifter?" Not accusations, evidence?

Rick Merlotti , 28 October 2020 at 02:38 PM

NancyK

After 4 plus years of the intelligence agencies and MSM looking under every conceivable rock, you think that there is anything left to find about Trump? You are delusional and headed for a massive case of buyer's remorse if swiss-cheese-for-brains gets in.

Diana L Croissant , 28 October 2020 at 02:45 PM

Thank you for asking that question. I was about to ask it myself. My understanding is that Trump's children are working for him as he is President for little pay. They may be still handling Trump business accounts; but it seems they work for his White House office and its many functions--and for his campaign.

I still believe in the American middle class, the people who make American run. These are the people at his rallies, wearing MAGA hats, and showing up in overflow numbers.

They are not people who are easily swayed by "false prophets."

Trump keeps pointing out how well our economy was doing UNTIL China sent the virus (and, I DO believe they sent it). He promises the return of that economy.

That is why Biden now is totally into frightening people about COVID and pushing masks and social distancing. He is afraid that Trump will indeed be able to bring back a good economy. He doesn't know how to do that, as is clear by this desperate attempt to cover up his shady dealings with first Ukraine and now China.

Where I live, a large percentage of our population are clearly very tired and bored with the COVID scare. We still do as our DEMOCRAT Governor, who hails from the People's Republic of Boulder, Colorado, and the University of Colorado, where Socialist, Marxist, and Ultra Feminists rule in the Arts and Humanities. We call Boulder "forty square miles surrounded by reality." Unfortunately, the Boulder/Denver triangle contains the largest voting block. We used to be able to count on Colorado Springs, but the universities in that area and into Pueblo have also been taken over by the leftists.

What is also clear is that Biden's real hope was to build his own family dynasty by using the Presidency as nothing but a cash cow for him and his inept and useless son.

I don't care really what Bobulinski's motives were for coming forward with his documents and emails, I'm just thankful that he did. I hope it wasn't too late. And I'm thankful he chose Tucker Carlson's show as the place to do it.

akaPatience , 28 October 2020 at 03:01 PM

Joe Biden doesn't seem to be the brightest bulb for someone with a JD. To wit: why didn't he just offer that he's given his son some fatherly advice about business now and then? Instead, he's repeatedly and categorically denied discussing ANYTHING with his son about his business dealings, which we now know is provably false. I'm no lawyer but I'd think Joe's repeated lying infers a tacit admission of guilt. Deniability doesn't seem plausible in this case.

I'd even go so far as to infer that Joe's gotten away with business dealings of this sordid sort for SO long that he's become sloppy (e.g., the braggadocio ON VIDEO of withholding US aid to Ukraine until its solicitor investigating Burisma, which was paying his son $50-80 thousand per month, was fired.) He obviously has the [justifiable] expectation of never being held accountable.

JohninMK , 28 October 2020 at 03:15 PM

Did anyone else clock his comment that he wasn't being paid, not even expenses, for all these trips. He said he was funding them himself, presumably until the $5M arrived.

Then it didn't but the Bidens got their $5M. The Bidens arrogance just piles onto their stupidity. Did they really think that kind of operator would take it lying down?

eakens , 28 October 2020 at 03:49 PM

NancyK. It unfortunately appears a vaccine for covid is way ahead of anything for TDS

smoke , 28 October 2020 at 06:09 PM

@ Diana Croissant

With one foot in Colorado Springs, I'd like to suggest that you may be overstating the weight of the local colleges in ColSpr's growing Democrat numbers. El Paso county election results have remained fairly reliably Republican, if not by as sure a margin as once.

Population growth may be more significant mover, the high rate of in-migration to Colorado, esp Denver. The seven county Greater Denver-Boulder area, with a population of 3.3 million, grew 1.1% last year, and has grown as fast or faster in the previous ten years. In number, the Denver population has grown faster than anywhere else in the state. In the past ten years the population of Denver Co alone increased 21%.

Colorado Springs/ El Paso Co. has grown quickly in the same period, but not as much as Denver. The current population of 720,000 increased 16% from ten years ago. A good part of this growth has been driven by Denver's growth and skyrocketing housing prices. A house costs much less in El Paso County.

Too many Denverites are choosing to commute an hour+ from ColSpr to Denver, as seen by the explosion of new housing at the north end of El Paso County and the now-daily traffic crawl at rush hour on I-25 between ColSpr and Denver. Just try to get up to the speed limit on that stretch. The state is adding extra lanes as fast as it can. It appears that Denver attitudes move in with many of these commuters. Is ColSpr fated to become a bedroom community?

Finally, Colorado appears to be one of the places attracting migrants from the blighted, overbuilt, overdetermined coasts. Again, newcomers arrive with attitudes from the places they left.

I am hoping that the open skies and spaces, the particular self-reliance of rural Colorado, and the more democratic openness to citizen initiatives via the ballot will mellow their views.

This level of population growth and shifting politics, lacking a concommitant growth in productivity of local biz and industry, is not viewed with equanimity by older inhabitants of ColSpr. IMO It would be best if Colorado remained independent, with reasonable political compromise and collaboration between parties, as before it has been.

Is a comparable dynamic underway north of Denver in your direction?


The Twisted Genius , 28 October 2020 at 08:40 PM

pl and NancyK,

In reference to Trump's reputation as a grifter, I offer the following sample:
- He paid $2 million in fines and had to close down the Trump Foundation for using it as a personal piggy bank.
- The Eric Trump Foundation was forced to close for similar grift. It was funneling money into Trump family businesses and accounts. It's wasn't like the family directly stole money from kids with cancer, but it ended up doing just that.
- His friend Bannon's recent grift with his Build the Wall Foundation, along with Manafort's tax and bank fraud convictions, and Cohen's conviction for paying hush money for Trump's sexual escapades.
- The sham Trump University was forced to close with a $25 million settlement to two class action lawsuits and a NY civil lawsuit.

None of this sunk Trump. What it did do was inure the American public to the increasing shittyness of our politician's behavior. Hunter's antics would have caused Joe to withdraw from public life ten years ago, but today it's just par for the course.
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turcopolier , 28 October 2020 at 11:19 PM

TTG
My friend, as I have told you before, you have no real knowledge of practice in the business world. Nobody says Trump has sold the US for his family's profit.

[Oct 25, 2020] RNC Spox Liz Harrington- Everything Democrats Accuse Us Of Doing Is What They Did With The Steele Dossier - Video - RealClearPolitics

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RNC Spox Liz Harrington: Everything Democrats Accuse Us Of Doing Is What They Did With The Steele Dossier Posted By Tim Hains
On Date October 23, 2020

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RNC's national spokesperson Liz Harrington battled CNN's Christiane Amanpour for refusing to engage with allegations of corruption against Joe Biden and his family after years of hyping unverified Trump-Russia allegations.

"Why don't you want to report this? This is one of the most powerful families in Washington," she asked. "And you're okay with our interests being sold out to profit Joe Biden and his family, while we're suffering during a pandemic from communist China?"

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"Absolutely, absolutely," CNN's Amanpour replied. Related Topics: Liz Harrington , Hunter Biden

[Oct 25, 2020] Tony Bobulinski to Provide Evidence in FBI, Senate Probes of Bidens - Newsmax.com

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Hunter Biden, son of Democrat presidential nominee Joe Biden, addresses the political party's virtual convention Aug. 20. ( Getty Images)

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Former Hunter Biden business associate Tony Bobulinski is going to turn over his electronic devices and business records to the FBI and appear Friday before two Senate committees investigating accusations centered on content from a laptop linked to Hunter.

Fox News' reporter John Roberts tweeted:

"Tony Bobulinski will announce that he will turn his electronic devices and records of business dealings with Hunter and Jim Biden over to the FBI"

Bobulinski, a retired Navy lieutenant and CEO of Sinohawk Holdings, will hold a briefing in Nashville, Tennessee, as he attends Thursday night's debate as a guest of President Donald Trump, Roberts also reported.

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And both the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee and Senate Finance Committee will hear testimony from Bobulinski in their investigations into a purported pay-for-play scheme that some have alleged also benefited former Vice President Joe Biden.

Committee Chairmen Sens. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., and Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, issued the following statement Thursday, announcing Bobulinski's cooperation Friday:

"As part of the committees' efforts to validate the authenticity of recently publicly released emails involving the Biden family's international financial entanglements, we sent letters to five individuals identified in the emails. Those letters were sent [Wednesday], and the deadline is Oct. 23, 2020. So far, the committees have received a response only from Mr. Tony Bobulinski, who appears to be willing to fully cooperate with our investigation.

"In fact, Mr. Bobulinski has already agreed to appear for an informal interview by the committees tomorrow, Friday, Oct. 23, 2020."

[Oct 25, 2020] Rudy Giuliani to Newsmax TV- Joe Biden Got 50 Percent of 'Bribe Money' - Newsmax.com

Ted Crus: "This whole issue is not about Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden by all appearances has led a troubled and challenging life. This whole inquiry is about Joe Biden who wants to be President and whether Joe Biden was personally corrupt," Cruz said. "One of the most striking things is what Joe Biden isn't saying... Biden has not denied that he personally met with the Ukrainian oligarch he repeatedly swore he never met.
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Rudy Giuliani to Newsmax TV: Joe Biden Got 50 Percent of 'Bribe Money'

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Former Vice President Joe Biden used his son Hunter Biden as a "bag man" and got 50% of the "bribe money" from foreign entities, Rudy Giuliani told Newsmax TV .

Appearing Tuesday on "Greg Kelly Reports," Giuliani, who says he is in possession of a copy of a hard drive purportedly belonging to Hunter Biden, said the current Democrat presidential nominee could have used several "flunkies" as a "bag man" rather than his own son, but instead involved Hunter in a purported bribery scheme with Chinese businesses.

"Ten percent of the money that was being whacked up, that was $10 million a year, and then 50% of the profits with three Chinese Communists, one of whom was a Chinese intelligence operative -- that 10% of that was going to H. for 'the big guy,'" Giuliani said.

"The big guy" has been identified by a Fox News source as Joe Biden, and Giuliani said his team has identified Joe Biden by other means as well.

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Pressed by host Greg Kelly for more revelations, Giuliani demurred, saying he has only been able to look through about half the hard drive so far.

Giuliani said the hard drive -- which he noted has never been denied as authentic by Joe or Hunter Biden -- contains evidence of about "five major federal crimes" and "$30-40 million" going to the Biden family as bribes.

The hard drive is said to have come from a laptop left at a Delaware repair shop by a man described by the owner of the shop as Hunter Biden. It was never picked up, and the original drive was given to the FBI.

In one purported email, Hunter Biden complains he receives no respect for his work, but tells his family he will not make them pay him "half your salary" like "Pop" did.

"This is not about Hunter," Giuliani said, but about what a criminal and "horrible father" Joe Biden is.

"These are major bribes in which he sold out the United States to China."

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[Oct 25, 2020] Twitter Nukes Alleged Hunter Biden Sex Tape After Letting Borat-Giuliani Sex Scene Trend

Notable quotes:
"... The "real issue" is the elite culture that produced and supports Biden. Looking at the family, you can tell it's just a bunch of degenerate mobster politicians. They're not even good at what they do. Who's behind them? Who is pushing Joe forward? ..."
"... It's a vampire squid of globo-homo kleptocracy and militant neoliberalism. Unfortunately the only other contender is our ziostooge DJT. ..."
"... I wouldn't call it the "elite culture" but one created by the CIA/FBI. They know who's doing what to whom and for how long and they've got the pictures, videos and confessions to prove it. If those agencies aren't shutdown or cleaned up, it won't matter who we elect...they will control them. ..."
"... It's a "culture" because it involves thousands of people: bureaucrats, journalists, politicians, attorneys, businessmen, bankers, and religious leaders. There is a conspiracy, but most of these people instictively know what to do and don't require orders. This basic class of people has been in power since Woodrow Wilson was put in the WH by Baruch and House. ..."
"... The politicians are like the Intel Agencies' zoo animals. ..."
Oct 25, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

A few days ago, the MSM and their political allies in the Democratic Party celebrated the release of a "compromising" photo appearing to show former NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani with his hands down his pants. Giuliani claimed that he was merely retucking in his shirt after removing some recording equipment, but nevertheless, the whole news cycle played out in full view of the public as social media giants like Twitter and Facebook looked the other way, allowing the photo, and links to news stories covering the controversy (orchestrated by "Borat" prankster Sasha Baron Cohen) to circulate widely.

However, just days later, a Chinese digital media company has published footage showing a man who looks identical to Hunter Biden engaging in a sex fetish act with an unidentifiable woman (along with a photo purporting to show what appears to be the same man engaging in sex with a Ukrainian prostitute). But instead of allowing discussion and links to the video to circulate, Twitter has scrubbed all links and photos related to the video and story, and is suspending accounts that appear to be trying to spread the video or screenshots from the footage.

Some background: Late Saturday afternoon, a mysterious link surfaced on Reddit purporting to be the vaunted Hunter Biden sex tape - or at least, one of the Hunter Biden sex tapes (whispers about more footage have so far gone unsubstantiated).

In it, a naked Hunter Biden can be seen, smoking crack, and laying with an unidentified woman, possibly a prostitute. The woman's face is blurred out, making it impossible to tell whether or not she appeared to be underage.

The video itself was posted by a news site purporting to be an anti-CCP intelligence operation called G-TV, which is also tied to Guo Wengui, the Chinese billionaire dissident who is close to Steve Bannon (Bannon was reportedly arrested after a visit on Guo's yacht in Connecticut).

Interested parties can find the video here .

Footage of the sex act is preceded by footage of Guo Wengui at the national press club raging over a Chinese takeover of the US, "9/11 times a thousand," he says, before transitioning to a screed slamming Western politicians who collaborate with the CCP, and warning about the dangers of American kleptocrats falling sway to CCP "influence" (blackmail etc).

During the opening minutes if the video, Hunter can be heard complimenting the woman on her technique. "That's so professional," Hunter exclaims. "You can't even find that on there," he laughs as he gestures toward something off camera.

A few minutes in, the man who is allegedly Hunter Biden can be seen firing up a crack pipe.

The reaction on Twitter was swift. Users who tried to share the link and photos were quickly blocked (even though Twitter famously allows porn and nudity). Some cracked jokes about Hunter Biden receiving what appeared to be a 'footjob', while shrugging off the video as simply evidence that Biden has been victimized by revenge porn.


Others simply noted the disparity in treatment between the Hunter Biden story and the "Borat" revelations about Giuliani, and wondered aloud how Twitter might be handling this if those photos were of Donald Trump Jr., not Hunter Biden.

Of course, twitter didn't simply ignore the Giuliani photo; the news became one of the top trending topics (thanks to the fact that Twitter's user-base skews toward young leftists).

At any rate, the group that released the footage and the above-mentioned screenshot are promising to release more compromising material, while the MSM and Big Tech rallies to Hunter Biden's defense.

rtb61 , 2 hours ago

It is not like you were not warned before hand and could have investigated how Biden stole the primary through postal votes, when Gabbard by proposing new legislation to block that electoral fraud. The corporate Democrats are utter ****e, worse than the Republicans and the Libertarians are way better than the Republicans and of course in the USA the Greens are by far the best of them all (what a real political party should look and of course be like and just corruptly and ruthlessly attacked by the corporate Democrats showing how truly evil the corporate Demcrats are, denying Americans democracy).

Krink26 , 3 hours ago

What a train wreck. The real issue is his father. He sold out the second highest seat in the land. And he'd do it all again if he gets into the top spot.

TBT or not TBT , 3 hours ago

His dad had the presidential level judgement to bring this mess of a person on Air Force 2 diplomatic missions to corrupt countries to be the point man for family deal making. Stellar judgement!

Propaganda Phil , 1 hour ago

What? You don't want to see pics of Hunter smoking crack in the White House?

Didymus , 3 hours ago

The "real issue" is the elite culture that produced and supports Biden. Looking at the family, you can tell it's just a bunch of degenerate mobster politicians. They're not even good at what they do. Who's behind them? Who is pushing Joe forward?

It's a vampire squid of globo-homo kleptocracy and militant neoliberalism. Unfortunately the only other contender is our ziostooge DJT.

Gerrilea , 3 hours ago

I wouldn't call it the "elite culture" but one created by the CIA/FBI. They know who's doing what to whom and for how long and they've got the pictures, videos and confessions to prove it. If those agencies aren't shutdown or cleaned up, it won't matter who we elect...they will control them.

Didymus , 2 hours ago

It's a "culture" because it involves thousands of people: bureaucrats, journalists, politicians, attorneys, businessmen, bankers, and religious leaders. There is a conspiracy, but most of these people instictively know what to do and don't require orders. This basic class of people has been in power since Woodrow Wilson was put in the WH by Baruch and House.

palmereldritch , 1 hour ago

The politicians are like the Intel Agencies' zoo animals.

[Oct 25, 2020] Blaming Russia for Hunter's problems was a big misstep, Joe, and it may prove to be your downfalld by Micah Curtis

Oct 25, 2020 | www.rt.com

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23 Oct, 2020 15:07 / Updated 1 day ago Get short URL Blaming Russia for Hunter's problems was a big misstep, Joe, and it may prove to be your downfall © Getty Images / David McNew / Staff 203 Follow RT on RT Joe Biden recently suggested that stories circulating about his son Hunter were part of a Russian disinformation campaign. Whatever he has or hasn't been up to, blaming another nation is unwise and won't go down well with voters.

It's safe to say that Hunter Biden, the son of former vice president and current presidential candidate Joe Biden, is having a rough time. After the contents of his laptop, including details of his international business dealings, came into the public domain, it transpired that the computer had been the subject of a subpoena in a money-laundering investigation. Now, former business partners are beginning to turn on him, and one of them has said that he's turning " everything " over to the FBI and the Senate. Another one claimed that Biden was consulted with regard to Hunter's foreign deals.

During the second and final presidential debate, Biden made a key mistake when it came to addressing these issues. Instead of simply stating that he had no comment to make, he decided to blame Russia for the fact that Hunter's emails had been leaked from the laptop's hard drive. Ah yes. So we're back to that old 'reliable' narrative. I'm assuming that Joe may have missed the embarrassment that was the Mueller investigation .

Maybe Biden doesn't like Russia. Whether he does or doesn't is inconsequential. It is a very bad idea to blame his problems on a foreign power. In fact, it's not the proper behavior of someone who wants to be president. Here's the truth. Hunter Biden's dealings across the pond likely had some issues. It's hard to say exactly what these might be, because there's an ongoing investigation. I don't think that Biden is so dumb that he doesn't realize that this hurts his chances of the presidency. However, there is a big lack of responsibility here. Blaming what's happening on anyone except Hunter is a bit silly. I'd even argue that it's incredibly irresponsible.

ALSO ON RT.COM By backing censorship of Hunter Biden story, mainstream media only hurt their own cause

What's even more obvious is the desperation. Biden and the Democrats in general want this story, whatever it is, to be squashed. It's why you have seen so little coverage on left-leaning TV networks. If Donald Trump Jr was in a similar situation it would be a story on every single one of them, and likely the subject of a Don Lemon lecture or five.

What Biden may not realize is that when voters see something being blamed on Russia, they tend to roll their eyes. It invokes the image of Boris and Natasha grabbing a laptop in the hopes of finally grabbing the moose and squirrel. It's cartoonish. And what happens if the worst-case scenario for Biden comes true and his son is indicted for something? Well, at that point it's more than just a ' Russian disinformation campaign' . It's very real indeed.

And this is where Biden could end up with plenty of egg on his face. If he and his son are in trouble, then no amount of blaming another country is going to change that. And it wouldn't surprise me if this becomes a major factor in the upcoming election. Why would you vote for someone who can't, or won't, take responsibility for what is going on with their own family?

What Biden needs to do at this point is come clean on what his level of involvement was, and simply be a dad to his son instead of a politician. Then again, Biden has been a politician longer than he's been a father, so it's hard saying which hat he plans on wearing for the next two weeks.

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MakeAmericaFree 1 day ago The world is witness to the blatant corruption and deceit at the highest levels of American government. Trump has tried to clean things up and he has a lot more left to do. We should wish him well in those efforts. I am starting to think Attorney General William Barr has capitulated though. Where are all the indictments, Mr. Barr? Reply 14 ariadnatheo MakeAmericaFree 1 day ago Barr? The CIA offspring? He does what he is told, not necessarily by his official boss SJMan333 1 day ago If Joe is running against another regular Republican politician, Hunter Biden's corruption would have been a non-issue. The US politics is a cesspool of corruption, money laundering, sex and all forms of moral decay. Each politician is in it for self-serving purposes. Position, power, money, etc etc. A big section of naive Americans believe their politicians are there to serve the people's interests. Politicians from both sides of the aisle have a tacit understanding NOT to cross a red line. They will never accuse their opponents of corruption. 'You make your money, I make mine.' is their omerta. They put up huge shows of debating with each other in public purportedly in defense of the people's welfare and benefits. Behind closed door, they celebrate their loots from the nation's tax money and illegal brides from businesses in camaraderie together. I don't like Trump. But his exposure of the alleged crimes of the Biden family is something to be applauded, even he's doing it for self-serving purposes. DukeLeo 1 day ago Joe Biden is using Hillary's methods. Not wise. You don't use the same fraud twice. shadow1369 DukeLeo 1 day ago Well the CIA have used the same lies for 75 years. White Elk shadow1369 1 day ago Must be a bit worn out by now. Reply 2 shadow1369 White Elk 1 day ago You would think so, you would also think that everybody would have seen through them by now, but not at all. The CIA orchestrated coup in Kiev used exactly the same methods as the one they orchestrated in Iran in 1953. The details of Operation Ajax are now publicly available, but few bother to look into it. allan Kaplan White Elk 1 day ago Not worn out but perfected! Lois Winters 1 day ago I am not surprised at anything Biden says after seeing his performance in these debates. He is obviously a tired old man and relies on sheafs of notes with the same old so called empathic statements to the citizens of America. It is a wonder that he's a presidential candidate at all. After all the original candidates finally were eliminated, no one but these two want this thankless job. allan Kaplan 1 day ago Now that the shameless "mind managers" the msm propagandists are in the opens, we, the people (an old cliche) must start making noises of holding these anti-American mouth pieces accountable. Compel to change the FCC Rules to take away their broadcasting licensees, penalized those self proclaimed journalists of zero integrities, jailed most of them, and never again allow such ego bloated nincompoops ever to come near the radio and TV stations and banned them from entering any newspaper offices as well. Other punitive measures must be enacted to deface and disregard these paid mouths of fake news and disinformation msm Complex! I'm starting a business of manufacturing toilet bowls and the pubic urinals with the faces impregnated into the ceramic of all those who exploited American freedom of speech to advance their personal careers and that would certainly include almost all the politicians and the tech giants etc. What do you think as a statement to test the real FREE SPEECH?

[Oct 25, 2020] Delaware GOP Senate Candidate Says Sen. Chris Coons' Daughter is 'Featured on Hunter's Laptop'

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Lauren Witzke @LaurenWitzkeDE US Senate candidate, DE BIG BREAKING NEWS: "Sources close to and with deep knowledge of the investigation, have informed me that Chris Coons' DAUGHTER in addition to seven other underage girls are also featured on [Hunter Biden's] laptop." 1:22 PM · Oct 24, 2020 5.2K 4.4K people are T

[Oct 25, 2020] Insiders Spill the Beans on Dirty Trick the FBI DOJ Employed to Rig the Hunter Biden Laptop Investigation

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Cracker Pipes , 29 minutes ago

CCP Hunter Biden sex/crack tape just dropped...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/go-chinas-gtv-releases-videos-hunter-biden-sex-tapes-smoking-crack/

aspen1880 , 11 minutes ago

there has been no gov accountability in the USA for any party since Abe

ponchoramic , 19 minutes ago

Only people who are genuinely interested in the skulduggery will understand the reality of any political situation. The rest of the public will just scratch & sniff their way through.

General public sentiment: It's politics, they're all the same. Bunch of liars. Lalala.

[Oct 25, 2020] The Devil doesn't steal souls. They are sold by their owners.

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IRC162 , 3 hours ago

The Democrat party is an existential threat to the United States of America

Cheap Chinese Crap , 3 hours ago

And, no, I don't feel bad for R. Hunter Biden, nor is he a victim.

He is a WLLLING PARTICIPANT in his father's vast corruption schemes and lived mega-large while the living was good.

The Devil doesn't steal souls. They are sold by their owners.

He could have walked away but he didn't.

And it makes me wonder how corrupt his brother was since that was Joe's fair-haired boy until he died from spending too much time on a cell phone.

Make_Mine_A_Double , 2 hours ago

Yeahhhh, might have to revisit the autopsy and death certificate on that one.

Though Hunter didn't waste any time bangin' deceased bros wifey - what a fambly.

Anno Domini , 3 hours ago

The Hunter sex stuff merely illustrates that there is mega Kompromat on the Bidens. It gets worse.

Here, just 2 weeks after DJT wins the White House, old Joe is recorded telling Ukraine's leader to clean up the evidence BEFORE Trump gets wind of it. This is it. Pure guilt on display-- it's always the coverup.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/released-biden-call-ukraine-november-2016-election-shows-biden-pressuring-president-poroshenko-end-burisma-investigation/Biden corruption.

SurfingUSA , 3 hours ago

Your link just goes to a .jpg

I think you mean this:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/released-biden-call-ukraine-november-2016-election-shows-biden-pressuring-president-poroshenko-end-burisma-investigation/

Go down to "Biden secret phone call," or straight to this Twitter link:

https://twitter.com/Rob60965449/status/1320134533803638784

Anno Domini , 3 hours ago

Thanx.

lwilland1012 , 3 hours ago

Means nothing without INDICTMENTS! Get off your keister and do something useful for once in your life, Barr, you sad Swamp sack of garbage!

Totally_Disillusioned , 3 hours ago

The Bidens are so owned by the Chinese CCP it's almost unfathomable...and they are so stupid.

aspnaz , 2 hours ago

Worrying about Russians while the CCP are infesting the country.

Totally_Disillusioned , 3 hours ago

Hunter is free and 21 yrs old and can engage in any sexual perversions with a consenting adult. What he can't do however is sell his father's political influence to foreign govts. That's treason.

quanttech , 3 hours ago

correct, and all the sex stuff takes the focus away from the financial crimes.

Templar X , 3 hours ago

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

...For years, I watched one betrayal after another, as politicians like Joe Biden sold out American Workers at every turn -- shattering the lives of millions of American families while THEIR families raked in millions of dollars...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1319822460443750402

Kefeer , 3 hours ago

Where is the story about the rental car return and the left behind crack-pipe? Remember that story - Hertz? 2016

Report: Cocaine Pipe Found In Joe Biden Son's Rental Car In 2016 (fisrt 45 seconds or so (Watter's World)

[Oct 25, 2020] China's Elite-Capture Strategy The Bidens -

Oct 25, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

China's Elite-Capture Strategy & The Bidens


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Authored by Clive Hamilton and Mareike Ohlberg via The Epoch Times,.

Excerpted from the book: 'Hidden Hand: Exposing How the Chinese Communist Party Is Reshaping the World'

In 2018 the well-connected Washington Post columnist Josh Rogin pointed out that China had been building networks of influence in the United States over many years, and that the U.S. government "is preparing for the possibility that the Chinese government will decide to weaponize" them to get what it wants. (Although Beijing is not known to use Russian-style "active measures" in the West, deploying them is only a matter of political calculation.)

One of the CCP's most auda­cious penetration operations, Chinagate in 1996, saw a top intelligence operative meeting a naive President Clinton in the White House, along with donations to the Clinton campaign made through people with ties to the Chinese military.

Beijing has been working to gain influence in the U.S. Congress since the 1970s. Through the activities of the CCP's International Liaison Department, and Party-linked bodies like the China Association for International Friendly Contact, China has made some influential friends. Nevertheless, Congress has for the most part remained skeptical of China, although its voice has been muted at times by the influence of "pro-China" members. The president, the White House, the bureaucracy, think tanks, and business lobby groups have all been targeted by Beijing, to good effect.

Democratic Presidential candidate and former Vice President Joe Biden gestures as he speaks during the final presidential debate at Belmont University in Nashville, Tenn., on Oct. 22, 2020. (Jim Watson/AFP/Getty Images)

Until recently, almost all players in Washington D.C. and beyond were convinced by the "peaceful rise of China" trope, and the value of "constructive engagement." The common belief was that as China developed economically, it would naturally morph into a liberal state. This view was not without foundation, because the more liberal factions within the CCP did struggle with the hardliners, but in the U.S. it reinforced a kind of institutional naivety that was exploited by Beijing. Many of those who stuck to this view even after the evidence pointed firmly to the contrary had a strong personal investment in defending Beijing.

The billionaire businessman and former New York mayor Michael Bloomberg was a late entrant in the contest to become the 2020 Democratic Party candidate for U.S. president. He is the most Beijing-friendly of all aspirants. With extensive investments in China, he opposes the tariff war and often speaks up for the CCP regime.

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Former Democratic presidential candidate Mike Bloomberg addresses his staff and the media after announcing that he will be ending his campaign, in New York City, on March 4, 2020. (Spencer Platt/Getty Images)

His media company has suppressed stories critical of CCP leaders, and Bloomberg himself claimed in 2019 that "Xi Jinping is not a dictator" because he has to satisfy his constituency.

The Washington Post 's Josh Rogin argued that "his [Bloomberg's] misreading of the Chinese government's character and ambitions could be devastating for U.S. national security and foreign policy. He would be advocating for a naive policy of engagement and wishful thinking that has already been tried and failed."

In May 2019 Joe Biden distinguished himself from all of the other candidates for the Democratic Party's presidential nomination by ridiculing the idea that China is a strategic threat to the United States. "China is going to eat our lunch? Come on, man," he told a campaign crowd in Iowa City. Biden had for years adopted a soft approach to China. When President Obama's secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, was taking a tougher position towards China's adventurism in Asia, Vice President Biden was urging caution. Biden had formed a warm personal relationship with Xi Jinping when Xi was vice president and president-in-waiting.

Hunter Biden (R) with then President Barack Obama (L) and Vice President Joe Biden during a college basketball game at the Verizon Center in Washington on Jan. 30, 2010. (Mitchell Layton/Getty Images)

In his second term, Obama replaced Clinton as secretary of state with the more accommodating John Kerry. The dynamics help to explain why Obama's 2012 "pivot to Asia" was a damp squib. The United States stood back while China annexed islands and features in the South China Sea and built military bases on them, something Xi had promised Obama he would not do. Breaking the promise has given China an enormous strategic advantage.

Joe Biden cleaves to the belief, now abandoned by many China scholars and most Washington politicians, that engagement with China will entice it into being a responsible stakeholder. The University of Pennsylvania's D.C. think tank -- named, for him, the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement -- aims to address threats to the liberal international order, yet China is absent from the threats identified on its website : Russia, climate change and terrorism. Biden has spoken about China's violation of human rights but still clings to the idea of China's "peaceful rise."

So does it matter if Joe Biden has a different view of China? It does, because there is evidence that the CCP has been currying his favor by awarding business deals that have enriched his son, Hunter Biden. One account of this is given by Peter Schweizer in his 2019 book "Secret Empires." Some of his key claims were subsequently challenged and Schweizer refined them in an op-ed in the New York Times (famous for fact-checking). In short, when Vice President Biden travelled to China in December 2013 on an official trip, his son flew with him on Airforce Two. While Biden senior was engaging in soft diplomacy with China's leaders, Hunter was having other kinds of meetings. Then, "less than two weeks after the trip, Hunter's firm which he founded with two other businessmen [including John Kerry's stepson] in June 2013, finalized a deal to open a fund, BHR Partners, whose largest shareholder is the government-run Bank of China, even though he had scant background in private equity."

The Bank of China is owned by the state and controlled by the CCP. Hunter Biden's exact role in the company is disputed, but one expert has said that his share in it would be worth around $20 million.

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However, the point here is not the ethics of the Bidens (as the news media have framed it) but the way in which the CCP can influence senior politicians. This "corruption by proxy," in which top leaders keep their hands clean while their family members exploit their association to make fortunes, has been perfected by the "red aristocracy" in Beijing .

Cover of the book "Hidden Hand" by Clive Hamilton and Mareike Ohlberg.

In the crucial years 2014 and 2015, Beijing was aggressively expanding into the South China Sea while Obama, Kerry, and Biden were sitting on their hands...

2 play_arrow e-man , 1 hour ago

" Chinagate in 1996, saw a top intelligence operative meeting a naive President Clinton in the White House"

I wonder how much a naive President Clinton got for selling out America.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States%E2%80%93China_Relations_Act_of_2000

Soloamber , 1 hour ago

Exactly correct and some of the biggest enemies the USA has are inside the fence .

They include most MSM , "higher education ' , climate change con men , and all levels of government

that are infiltrated or bought .

The intel agencies see the political gong show as theatre to be ignored unless they stage a coup like the one on Trump .

Oldwood , 1 hour ago

Globalism is not nationalism. It pervades all economies, all borders.

This election is NOT a choice between democrat and republican. It is a war to retain America as a constitutional sovereign republic versus capitulation to a globalist regime comprised of unelected elitist organizations unaccountable to anyone. A illusory democracy will remain, where voting will be simply a certification of indoctrinated themes and agendas, and contradictory voices will be expunged as threats to peace and "harmony ", if acknowledged at all.

NoDebt , 1 hour ago

In his second term, Obama replaced Clinton as secretary of state with the more accommodating John Kerry.

Because there are some thing so distasteful even a Clinton won't do them?

Sinophile , 35 minutes ago

Neolib: Russia, Russia, Russia.....

Neocon: China, China, China.....

Redpilled: DC, DC,DC.....

Only one of the three admits the truth.

Russia did not destroy America.

China did not destroy America.

Washington DC destroyed Amerika.

Handful of Dust , 57 minutes ago

Allegedly, Bloomberg himself is in some of those videos of Pedo Parties with underage Chinese girls.

The FBI will crucify a soccer Mom for trying to get her baby daughter into college, yet ignores widespread pedophilia of some of our top politicians and their sons.

Soloamber , 1 hour ago

Biden was in political power the entire time millions of USA jobs were sent to China .

Pay back is a bitch especially when your kid gets rich from pay to play .

Whiskey Tango Texas , 1 minute ago

An anti-CCP group called "The New Federal State of China" is now releasing Hunter Biden sex tape footage in order to show the depth of CCP infiltration and how compromised / owned the Bidens are specifically.

They claim to be dropping new stuff every hour.

https://thedonald.win/p/11PVkKV2gr/hunter-bidens-sex-tapes-the-ccps/

Shemp 4 Victory , 1 hour ago

Two China-bashing neocons getting an excerpt of drivel from their book printed in Falun Gong's propaganda megaphone The Epoch Times - what an amazing coincidence.

Well, I suppose weekend Tyler must have bills to pay like anyone else...

East Indian , 1 hour ago

You may expose the hidden hand or any other part of anatomy, but people of America do not seem to care or notice; if they ever notice, then that story is disappeared by the tech giants; and if the story escapes black out, then a counter-story breaks, whereby America will be caught doing the same things in China...

The time for taking a firm stand is approaching. Whosoever takes a firm stand will survive...

Parrotile , 1 hour ago

Big drama! The Chinese are copying US decades-old policy!

Yes, Non-Communist China is certainly reshaping the World, despite the US's efforts to stop them (which includes the US -made "China Virus" - NO credible evidence that there was any "leak" from the Wuhan facility, but ZeroHedge just keeps on trotting out the anti-China rhetoric to keep the Republican cretinocracy happy!)

America drops record quantities of munitions on those who don't bend the knee to their "rulers", whilst China has the One Belt, One Road program (and by fortifying the Spratley Island chain, has shown that they are very aware of how the US goaded Japan into the Pearl Harbour incident.

China provides added value via trade, the US indulges in frank piracy.

When the end comes (and it will), may your God help you, since you may rest assured that the rest of the civilised World will be cheering in the streets (and rightly so).

[Oct 25, 2020] Jaw-Dropping Report Details Chinese State-Owned Company's Partnership With Biden, Kerry Families by Jennifer Van Laar

Oct 23, 2020 | redstate.com

(This is the first in a series of articles exploring Hunter Biden and Chris Heinz's business dealings with Chinese entities. Additional reporting and research have been provided by RedState's Scott Hounsell . Links to additional pieces are at the bottom.)

A nearly 60-page intelligence report dated October 2 and provided to RedState late Wednesday, October 21 details the relationship between multiple Chinese State-Owned Entities (SOE's) and companies owned by Hunter Biden, Chris Heinz (stepson of former Secretary of State John Kerry), Devon Archer, James Bulger, and suspected Chinese intelligence asset Michael Lin. Despite what Hunter Biden's attorney claimed in 2019 , Hunter started traveling to China shortly before the Big Guy became Vice President and signed contracts with SOE's while the Big Guy was Vice President.

According to Christopher Balding, Associate Professor at Peking University HSBC School of Business Shenzhen – who notes that he did not vote for Donald Trump in 2016 and will not be voting for him this year – who reviewed the report before publication:

Lost among the salacious revelations about laptop provenance is the more mundane reality of influence and money of major United States political figures. Ill-informed accusations of Russian hacking and disinformation face the documented reality of a major Chinese state financial partnership with the children of major political figures. A report by an Asian research firm raises worrying questions about the financial links between China and Hunter Biden.

Beginning just before Joe Biden's ascendancy to the Vice Presidency, Hunter Biden was traveling to Beijing meeting with Chinese financial institutions and political figures would ultimately become his investors. Finalized in 2013, the investment partnership included money from the Chinese government, social security, and major state-owned banks a veritable who's who of Chinese state finance.

It is not simply the state money that should cause concern but the structures and deals that took place. Most investment in specific projects came from state-owned entities and flowed into state-backed projects or enterprises.

According to the report Hunter Biden made incredible profits for essentially doing nothing, including a tidy sum off of a copper mine in the Congo and another healthy bundle for allowing the Bank of China to allocate its share of an IPO in Hong Kong to his venture capital firm, BHR. So he's either the world's savviest investor or there are some shenanigans/influence-peddling going on.

These activities were directed by people at the highest levels of the Chinese Communist Party, according to the report.

The entire arrangement speaks to Chinese state interests. Meetings were held at locations that in China speak to the welcoming of foreign dignitaries or state to state relations. The Chinese organizations surrounding Hunter Biden are known intelligence and influence operatives to the United States government. The innocuous names like Chinese People's Institute for Foreign Affairs exist to " carry out government-directed policies and cooperative initiatives with influential foreigners without being perceived as a formal part of the Chinese government."

Balding, an American who lived in China for nine years, says of the report's veracity:

I did not write the report and I am not responsible for the report. I have gone over the report with a fine-tooth comb and can find nothing factually wrong with the report. Everything is cited and documented. Arguably the only weakness is that we do not have internal emails between Chinese players or the Chinese and Bidens that would make explicit what the links clearly imply.

Among the other revelations in the report:

Balding says this information is easily discoverable, that "there is no secret method for discovering this data other than actually looking," and that knowing how the Chinese government operates, the links between Beijing and the Bidens are very worrisome:

Having lived in China for nine years throughout the Xi regime's construction of concentration camps and having witnessed first hand their use of influence and intelligence operations, the Biden links worry me profoundly.

Whether Joe Biden personally knew the details, a very untenable position, it is simply political malpractice to not be aware of the details of these financial arrangements. These documentable financial links simply cannot be wished away.

The entire report can be read here .

Part 2: Hunter, Joe Biden's 2013 China Trip Overlapped With Ukrainian Delegation

Part 3: State-Owned Bank of China is Majority Owner of Hunter Biden's Venture Capital Firm

Part 4: Hunter Biden's Company Partnered With Chinese Military to Acquire Stealth Tech, Assisted By The Big Guy and John Kerry

[Oct 24, 2020] Rep. Gosar Calls To Defund NPR As Backlash Grows Over Biden Laptop Coverup

Oct 24, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Rep. Gosar Calls To Defund NPR As Backlash Grows Over Biden Laptop Coverup


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Arizona Republican Rep. Paul Gosar has called for defunding National Public Radio after the outlet officially refused to cover the Hunter Biden laptop scandal (while happily peddling anti-Trump rumors for years) - calling it a ' waste of time. '

"It's time to defund @NPR. This is appalling. #DefundNPR," Gosar tweeted on Thursday.

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Gosar joins a growing chorus of conservative voices who are furious over the outlet's decision to censor perhaps the biggest political bombshell in decades .

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As Jack Phillips of the Epoch Times notes:

NPR public editor Kelly McBride published an inquiry on its website Thursday from a listener who did not understand why the outlet was ignoring the story.

"Someone please explain why NPR has apparently not reported on the Joe Biden, Hunter Biden story in the last week or so that Joe did know about Hunter's business connections in Europe that Joe had previously denied having knowledge?" listener Carolyn Abbott asked.

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McBride responded in saying there are "many, many red flags" in an investigation carried out by the New York Post, which last week published reports that were sourced from the alleged laptop hard drive. NPR then went on to repeat claims that Russia is attempting to interfere in the election.

" Even if Russia can't be positively connected to this information, the story of how Trump associates Steve Bannon and Rudy Giuliani came into a copy of this computer hard drive has not been verified and seems suspect. And if that story could be verified, the NY Post did no forensic work to convince consumers that the emails and photos that are the basis for their report have not been altered," McBride said, adding: "But the biggest reason you haven't heard much on NPR about the Post story is that the assertions don't amount to much."

Her response included a statement from NPR managing editor Terence Samuel.

" We don't want to waste our time on stories that are not really stories , and we don't want to waste the listeners' and readers' time on stories that are just pure distractions. And quite frankly, that's where we ended up, this was a politically driven event and we decided to treat it that way," Samuel said.

The claims that the reports are part of a Russian disinformation plot were dismissed by Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe.

The FBI, meanwhile, did not dispute Ratcliffe's statements earlier this week.

FBI Assistant Director Jill C. Tyson sent a letter to Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, in response to Johnson's request for more information about the emails, reports around which have alleged that Hunter Biden tried to introduce a Ukrainian businessman to his father when he served as vice president in the Obama administration. The law enforcement agency said it has "nothing to add at this time" to Ratcliffe's statement.

A number of conservatives and allies of President Donald Trump criticized NPR following its decision to publish the inquiry .

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" Wow. Foreign corruption from a major party is not considered news for taxpayer-funded #fakenews NPR, " wrote the America First PAC on Twitter in response.

It came as Twitter and Facebook also announced they would either block or limit the reach of the NY Post's reports. White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany's account and a Trump campaign account were also blocked. The Senate Judiciary Committee, as a result, voted to issue subpoenas on Thursday to Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg and Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey to appear before the committee after raising concerns about censorship and election interference.

Biden's campaign has denied that he ever met with a Ukrainian gas company official, which was allegedly revealed in a trove of emails that purportedly were found on a laptop hard drive belonging to his son, Hunter, who sat on the company's board while his father was the vice president. The NY Post also obtained a hard drive containing the emails from former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Other allegations have surfaced in recent reports over the days, including from a former Hunter Biden associate who confirmed the legitimacy of an email.

"The Attorney General of Delaware's office indicated that the FBI has 'ongoing investigations regarding the veracity of this entire story.' And it would be unsurprising for an investigation of a disinformation action involving Rudy Giuliani and those assisting him to involve questions about money laundering, especially since there are other documented inquiries into his dealings," the campaign said.

TheFederalistPapers , 22 minutes ago

I work way too hard to fund these ****ers. NPR is owned by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB) and sneak a peek at their Board of Directors https://www.cpb.org/aboutcpb/leadership/board

Jeremy Roenick , 22 minutes ago

NPR = Tax payer funded propaganda

[Oct 24, 2020] Full statement by Tony Bobulinski on his business dealings with Biden and the Chinese.

Oct 24, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Down South , Oct 22 2020 19:39 utc | 15

https://m.facebook.com/wxyzdetroit/posts/10157530043341135

Full statement by Tony Bobulinski on his business dealings with Biden and the Chinese.

Down South , Oct 22 2020 19:52 utc | 17

This is big!

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/22/biden-whistleblower-emails-chinese-energy-company-gave-5-million-non-secured-forgivable-loan-biden-family/amp/

[Oct 23, 2020] Facts have that unfortunate tendency to be, "anti-semitic, as you say, not me

Are 85% of US oligarchs avid Zionists?
Oct 23, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
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yojimbo , 6 hours ago

You have the F35 program and you believe corruption to be cultural? It sure is though, 85% of oligarchs are of a certain.. tribal persuasion after all.

youshallnotkill , 5 hours ago

No, I don't think it's cultural, I think it's funny to pretend that you are protecting culture when in fact you are protecting corruption. Your antisemitic smear nicely rounds out the picture.

LibertarianMenace , 5 minutes ago

Facts have that unfortunate tendency to be, "anti-semitic, as you say, not me.

Vivekwhu , 5 hours ago

Stop denigrating the US [neoliberal] Dems. Corruption is not just part of the Dems culture.

IT IS THEIR CULTURE.

Along with most of the Reps in Congress.

[Oct 23, 2020] The 2016 deposition of Jeffrey Epstein's alleged accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell has been unsealed

Oct 23, 2020 | twitter.com

The more than 400-page deposition was released early Thursday after Maxwell lost an appeal earlier in the week to keep the document sealed. Maxwell was charged by federal prosecutors in early July for allegedly helping recruit and sexually abuse minors as part of a years-long criminal enterprise run by Jeffrey Epstein.




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Bloomberg @business A judge has released hundreds of pages of Ghislaine Maxwell's testimony from a civil lawsuit by one of her accusers. The documents are the only substantive public record from Maxwell about what she said she did for her former boyfriend Jeffrey Epstein https:// trib.al/U50D55n
9:48 AM · Oct 22, 2020
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[Oct 23, 2020] The Biden/CCP set-up.

Oct 23, 2020 | www.baldingsworld.com

play_arrow No_Pretzel_Logic 9 hours ago (Edited)

Don't know if this was already posted but it looks like a VERY GOOD read. The Biden/CCP set-up.

https://www.baldingsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/KVBJHB.pdf

Might want to download that PDF....possible it won't be up for long.

[Oct 23, 2020] During the years that Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. was helping the credit card industry win passage of a law making it harder for consumers to file for bankruptcy protection, his son had a consulting agreement that lasted five years with one of the largest companies pushing for the changes...

Oct 23, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

johnny two shoes , 9 hours ago

During the years that Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. was helping the credit card industry win passage of a law making it harder for consumers to file for bankruptcy protection, his son had a consulting agreement that lasted five years with one of the largest companies pushing for the changes...

It was a savage piece of legislation, and Joe Biden even worked to block an amendment that would have offered bankruptcy protection to people with medical debt. The bill also blocked people from discharging private student loan debt under bankruptcy. Total student loan debt was under $400 billion in 2005; it surged in the wake of the law's passage and is now over $1.5 trillion.

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/25/us/politics/25biden.html

https://nypost.com/2019/10/15/joe-bidens-brother-and-son-have-a-long-history-of-profiting-off-his-name/

junction , 9 hours ago

The bank was MBNA. I know from personal experience that MBNA charged a late penalty on online payments for their credit card on the last day due, illegally calling the payment late even though the Federal Reserve Bank has a rule that if you make payment before the cut-off time on the last date due, your payment must be considered as processed that date. MBNA also kept funds that should have been transferred to the state's Abandoned Property Fund, to boost its bottom line while its criminal owners were trying to sell the bank to Bank of America.

[Oct 23, 2020] Bad and very bad news about Biden family

Oct 23, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com


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Occams_Razor_Trader , 11 hours ago

In Biden Family News:

The Good News: Media reports of Hunter Biden boffing his dead brother's wife

were media exaggerations ..........................

The Bad News: It appears that Hunter Biden was actually molesting his dead brother's 14 year old daughter

FreedomWriter , 10 hours ago

Well, at the risk of sounding tasteless, Joe always liked them young. Why should Hunter be any different?

[Oct 23, 2020] KVBJHB.pdf

Highly recommended!
Oct 23, 2020 | www.baldingsworld.com

1. SUMMARY -3-

2. THE NEXUS OF CHINESE MONEY & INFLUENCE - 4 -

3. HUNTER RECEIVED CHINESE STATE MONEY - 7 -

2010 Hunter Courts Chinese State Money - 7 -

2012 Hunter's First China Deal - Wanxiang - 9 -

2012 - 2013 Hunter's Second China Deal - BHR -10 -

2013 Biden and Hunter visit China and meet BHR CEO LI -11 -

2015 Hunter's Third China Deal - Sino-Ocean -17 -

2012 Archer's China Deal - Sichuan Chemical -17 -

2019 Biden denies knowledge of Hunter's China Deals -18 -

4. HOW BIDEN WAS COMPROMISED BYTHE CPC -19-

Biden Family Compromised -19 -

The Approach -20-

TheStrawman -21-

The Intro - 22 -

Targeted by China's Foreign Influence Organizations - 24 -

Biden and Hunter Mix Business with Politics - 25 -

The Set-Up -26-

Lin Continues to Promote Chinese Culture - 28-

Hunter Cultivated by Chinese Intelligence (Updated) - 31 -

Biden Softens View on China - 32 -

5. THE PLAYERS -33-

HUNTER AND PARTNERS - 33 -

CHINA'S STATE CAPITAL - 34 -

US-CHINATOUCHPOINTS - 39 -

CHINA'S FOREIGN INFLUENCE ORGANIZATIONS - 40 -

6. DETAILED TIMELINE -44-

7. APPENDICES -57-

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TYPHOON INVESTIGATIONS PROJECTTIME

1. SUMMARY

l. Joe Biden's compromising partnership with the Communist Part}' of China runs
via Yang Jiechi (CPC's Central Foreign Affairs Commission). YANG met frequently
with BIDEN during his tenure at the Chinese embassy in Washington.

2. Hunter Biden's 2013 Bohai Harvest Rosemont investment partnership was set-up
by Ministry' of Foreign Affairs institutions designed to garner influence with foreign
leaders during YANG's tenure as Foreign Minister.

3. HUNTER has a direct line to the Politburo, according to SOURCE A, a senior
finance professional in China.

4. Michael Lin brokered the BHR partnership and partners with MOFA foreign
influence organizations.

5. LIN is a POI for his work on behalf of China, as confirmed by SOURCE В and
SOURCE С (at two separate national intelligence agencies).

6. BHR is a state managed operation. Leading shareholder in BHR is a Bank of China
and BHR's partners are SOEs that funnel revenue/assets to BHR.

7. HUNTER continues to hold 10% in BHR. He visited China in 2010 and met with
major Chinese government financial companies that would later back BHR.

8. HUNTER's BHR stake (purchased for $400,000) is now likely be worth approx.
$50 million (fees and capital appreciation based on BHR's $6.5 billion AUM).

9. HUNTER also did business with Chinese tycoons linked with the Chinese military
and against the interests of US national security.

10. BIDEN's foreign policy stance towards China (formerly hawkish), has since turned
positive despite China's country's rising geopolitical assertiveness.

[Oct 23, 2020] 'Don't Mention Joe Being Involved' -- New Biden Biz Partner Emerges, Confirms "Big Guy" Was Directly Involved In China Deal

Hunter, Ivanka, and especially Kushner are essentially apples from the same goverment corruption tree. The problem is much deeper the Biden Family of Trump family.
Oct 23, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Former Hunter Biden business partner Tony Bobulinski has confirmed that an email published in the New York Post 's bombshell exposé is indeed genuine - something the Biden camp hasn't disputed, and that the "Big Guy" described in one of those emails is none other than Joe Biden himself . Bobulinski also says Joe Biden was lying when he said he and Hunter never discussed business dealings.

"My name is Tony Bobulinski. The facts set forth below are true and accurate; they are not any form of domestic or foreign disinformation. Any suggestion to the contrary is false and offensive. I am the recipient of the email published seven days ago by the New York Post, which showed a copy to Hunter Biden and Rob Walker. That email is genuine .' -New York Post

Bobulinski issued the statement late Wednesday, affirming that, contrary to Joe Biden's claims that he never discussed business dealings with Hunter, the former Veep actually profited from his son's dealings, which were undertaken with the full support of the Biden family.

Bobulinski claims cash and equity positions and 10% stakes in dealings were set aside for " the big guy ," - aka Joe Biden .

Bobulinski said: "I've seen Vice President Biden saying he never talked to Hunter about business" - "I've seen firsthand that that's not true."

" I've seen firsthand that that's not true, because it wasn't just Hunter's business, they said they were putting the Biden family name and its legacy on the line."

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What's more, Bobulinski was admonished at one point for mentioning Joe Biden in communications :

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According to Bobulinski, he was the CEO of Sinohawk Holding, a holding company partnership between now-bankrupt CEFC China Energy Co. and the Biden family. He said the Chinese weren't in partnership for any kind of commercial purpose: they were there to pay for "influence" in the US.

"I realized the Chinese were not really focused on a healthy financial ROI. They were looking at this as a political or influence investment. Once I realized that Hunter wanted to use the company as his personal piggy bank by just taking money out of it as soon as it came from the Chinese, I took steps to prevent that from happening"

In the final weeks of the presidential campaign, Joe Biden has labeled Hunter Biden's emails as a "smear" campaign against him, and Democrats like Adam Schiff have accused these reports of being linked to a Russian intelligence operation, even though intelligence officials have said there's no evidence that this is true.

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Here is Bobulinski's statement in full ( emphasis ours ):

My name is Tony Bobulinski. The facts set forth below are true and accurate ; they are not any form of domestic or foreign disinformation. Any suggestion to the contrary is false and offensive. I am the recipient of the email published seven days ago by the New York Post which showed a copy to Hunter Biden and Rob Walker. That email is genuine .

This afternoon I received a request from the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Government Affairs and the Senate Committee on Finance requesting all documents relating to my business affairs with the Biden family as well as various foreign entities and individuals. I have extensive relevant records and communications and I intend to produce those items to both Committees in the immediate future.

I am the grandson of a 37 year Army Intelligence officer, the son of a 20+ year career Naval Officer and the brother of a 28 year career Naval Flight Officer. I myself served our country for 4 years and left the Navy as LT Bobulinski. I held a high level security clearance and was an instructor and then CTO for Naval Nuclear Power Training Command. I take great pride in the time my family and I served this country. I am also not a political person. What few campaign contributions I have made in my life were to Democrats.

If the media and big tech companies had done their jobs over the past several weeks I would be irrelevant in this story . Given my long standing service and devotion to this great country, I could no longer allow my family's name to be associated or tied to Russian disinformation or implied lies and false narratives dominating the media right now.

After leaving the military I became an institutional investor investing extensively around the world and on every continent. I have traveled to over 50 countries. I believe, hands down, we live in the greatest country in the world.

What I am outlining is fact . I know it is fact because I lived it. I am the CEO of Sinohawk Holdings which was a partnership between the Chinese operating through CEFC/Chairman Ye and the Biden family . I was brought into the company to be the CEO by James Gilliar and Hunter Biden. The reference to "the Big Guy" in the much publicized May 13, 2017 email is in fact a reference to Joe Biden. The other "JB" referenced in that email is Jim Biden, Joe's brother.

Hunter Biden called his dad 'the Big Guy' or 'my Chairman,' and frequently referenced asking him for his sign-off or advice on various potential deals that we were discussing . I've seen Vice President Biden saying he never talked to Hunter about his business. I've seen firsthand that that's not true, because it wasn't just Hunter's business, they said they were putting the Biden family name and its legacy on the line.

I realized the Chinese were not really focused on a healthy financial ROI. They were looking at this as a political or influence investment. Once I realized that Hunter wanted to use the company as his personal piggy bank by just taking money out of it as soon as it came from the Chinese, I took steps to prevent that from happening.

The Johnson Report connected some dots in a way that shocked me -- it made me realize the Bidens had gone behind my back and gotten paid millions of dollars by the Chinese, even though they told me they hadn't and wouldn't do that to their partners.

I would ask the Biden family to address the American people and outline the facts so I can go back to being irrelevant -- and so I am not put in a position to have to answer those questions for them.

I don't have a political ax to grind; I just saw behind the Biden curtain and I grew concerned with what I saw. The Biden family aggressively leveraged the Biden family name to make millions of dollars from foreign entities even though some were from communist controlled China.

God Bless America!!!!

All of which will likely be "muted" in tonight's highly anticipated debate.

[Oct 22, 2020] Sean Davis on Twitter- -A source with direct knowledge says Tony Bobulinski has provided all relevant Hunter Biden documents, including conversations from Hunter himself about leveraging the family name in business deals with communist China, to congressi

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Lesley Stahl "DISCREDITED HERSELF" She repeatedly cited the Senate GOP Report on Biden corruption @realDonaldTrump : "Do you think it's OK for the mayor of Moscow's wife to give him millions?" Lesley falsely says "no real evidence of that" It's in the VERY report she cites! 225K views 0:02 / 2:14 1.4K 11.3K 25K
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NPR covered the fake Steele Dossier. But won't cover the real Hunter Biden emails. "Journalism." Quote Tweet NPR Public Editor @NPRpubliceditor · 12h Why haven't you seen any stories from NPR about the NY Post's Hunter Biden story? Read more in this week's newsletter https:// tinyurl.com/y67vlzj2 Show this thread
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[Oct 22, 2020] An email dated May 15, 2017 sent from Jim, Joe's brother, to Hunter and his team revealed the list of key domestic contacts for phase one target projects in the Biden family business: Harris, D-Calif.; Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y.; Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn.; Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.; Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y.; New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo; NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio; former Virginia Gov. Terry McCauliffe

Oct 22, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Mike K , 8 hours ago

Headline:

"Chinese Energy Firm Gives Biden Crime Family $5 Million "Interest-Free" Loan Through Investment Vehicle Described as 'Consulting Fees' to Hunter Biden."

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/chinese-energy-firm-gives-biden-crime-family-5-million-interest-free-loan-investment-vehicle-described-consulting-fees-hunter-biden/

ReadyForHillary , 8 hours ago

That Hunter must be a brilliant guy! He's being paid a fortune to sit on boards and provide consulting to a number of institutions all over the world!

Enraged , 10 hours ago

An email dated May 15, 2017 sent from Jim, Joe's brother, to Hunter and his team revealed the list of key domestic contacts for phase one target projects in the Biden family business: Harris, D-Calif.; Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y.; Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn.; Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.; Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y.; New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo; NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio; former Virginia Gov. Terry McCauliffe.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/new-email-reveals-kamala-harris-top-democrats-listed-key-domestic-contacts-biden-family-business-ventures/

[Oct 21, 2020] Wikipedia and truth

Oct 21, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com


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Lucky Guesst , 2 hours ago

Hunter Biden's current Wikipedia page.......

Biden served on the board of Burisma Holdings , a major Ukrainian natural gas producer, from 2014 to 2019. He and his father have been the subjects of debunked right-wing conspiracy theories pushed by Donald Trump and his allies concerning Biden business dealings and anti-corruption efforts in Ukraine. [1]

CheapBastard , 2 hours ago

And wiki has the nerve to ask for donations.

[Oct 21, 2020] So, Joe... all of those incriminating emails on your son's laptop aren't proof of "profiting off your family name", huh?

Oct 21, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

J S Bach , 2 hours ago

So, Joe... all of those incriminating emails on your son's laptop aren't proof of "profiting off your family name", huh?

The lying never ceases with these wretches. It's all they know how to do.

Their father in hell awaits them all.

HANGTHEOWL , 2 hours ago

They know to just keep lying,,the media will cover for them and so will the government,,,both sides will,,even though they will make it seem like they are doing something about it,,,,,

snatchpounder , 2 hours ago

Yes the Biden crime family has years of experience yet Boobus Americanus will dutifully line up and vote for the demented old crook.

radical-extremist , 2 hours ago

Because they know they're protected by the Democrat Media Complex.

Reaper , 3 hours ago

Hunter was his father's bagman.

Bay of Pigs , 2 hours ago

Joe's denial isn't going to work. Why?

Evidence, that's why.

markar , 1 hour ago

Hunter used daddie's name to bilk the poor Sioux tribe out of $60 mill in a fraudulent bond deal. His partner Cooney took the fall and is now in prison for it. He's spilling the beans. The other partner in the scam, Devon Archer lost his appeal and is going to prison in Jan for the same crime. Where's Hunter?

[Oct 21, 2020] BOOM! Rudy Giuliani Drops a Bomb -- Joe Biden Broke the Law by NOT Notifying Officials of Hunter's Naked Crack Smoking and Sexual Abuse of Minors

Oct 21, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Teamtc321 , 2 hours ago

BOOM! Rudy Giuliani Drops a Bomb -- Joe Biden Broke the Law by NOT Notifying Officials of Hunter's Naked Crack Smoking and Sexual Abuse of Minors (VIDEO

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/boom-rudy-giuliani-drops-bomb-joe-biden-broke-law-not-notifying-officials-hunters-naked-crack-smoking-sexual-abuse-minors-video/

[Oct 21, 2020] Joe Biden Insists Son Never Profited Off Family Name; Except Hunter And Ex-President Of Poland Say He Did -

Oct 21, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Joe Biden Insists Son Never Profited Off Family Name; Except Hunter And Ex-President Of Poland Say He Did


by Tyler Durden Wed, 10/21/2020 - 12:25 Twitter Facebook Reddit Email Print

In a Tuesday interview, former Vice President Joe Biden claimed that there was no basis "whatsoever" to claims that his son, Hunter, profited off the family name .

When asked local Wisconsin TV station WISN if there was any legitimacy to comments by Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) that Hunter " together with other Biden family members, profited off the Biden name ," the former Vice President replied " None whatsoever, " adding (without finishing the sentence) " This is the same garbage Rudy Giuliani, Trump's henchman... "

"It's the last ditch effort in this desperate campaign to smear me and my family."

https://www.youtube.com/embed/7NDwG-2UqvI?start=280

Except, Hunter admitted he profited off his family name!

"If your last name wasn't Biden, do you think you would've been asked to be on the board of Burisma?" asked ABC News ' Amy Robach in an October 15, 2019 interview.

"I don't know. I don't know. Probably not, in retrospect," said Hunter. " I don't think that there's a lot of things that would have happened in my life if my last name wasn't Biden ," he added, " because my dad was Vice President of the United States. "

"There's literally nothing, as a young man or as a full-grown adult that -- my father in some way hasn't had influence over."

https://www.youtube.com/embed/IFlZPnS0gKc?start=52

What's more, the former President of Poland and Burisma board member Aleksander Kwasniewski said last November that Hunter was picked to sit on the company's board because of his name .

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"I understand that if someone asks me to be part of some project it's not only because I'm so good, it's also because I am Kwasniewski and I am a former president of Poland. ... Being Biden is not bad. It's a good name ," he said.

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Let's also not glaze over the fact that both Joe and Hunter said that Joe had 'no knowledge' of Hunter's international business dealings, while recently released emails from Hunter's laptop prove that Hunter 'introduced' Joe to a top Burisma executive - a meeting Biden's camp says never happened. Joe also met with a CCP-linked delegation of Chinese investors arranged by Hunter and his business partners, according to emails released by imprisoned ex-Hunter business associate, Bevan Cooney.

[Oct 21, 2020] Biden's global pay for play schemes using his drug addict son as bagman spanned Ukraine, Romania, Poland, Kazakhstan

Oct 21, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

markar , 53 minutes ago

Biden's global pay for play schemes using his drug addict son as bagman spanned Ukraine, Romania, Poland, Kazakhstan, and the grand daddy of all, China makes him a national security risk. The fact he's this close to being president is a sad commentary on how far the country has fallen into the abyss.

DefendYourBase4 , 51 minutes ago

what is sad is the FBI do nothing. The FBI is a criminal organization as far as i am concerned, and they are not to be taken seriously. ive already had multiple visits with them and i laugh in their face

markar , 1 hour ago

Joe Biden was the architect of a 1986 crime bill that specifically targeted Blacks with very stiff sentences for small amounts of crack cocaine. Biden is the spawn of the KKK and a long time racist. Look up his vile comments over the years including recently. That BLM supports this scumbag is proof they care little about the well being of Black people.

[Oct 21, 2020] Rudy Giuliani Turns Over Alleged Photos Of Underage Girls From Hunter's Hard Drive To Delaware Police -

Oct 20, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Things just took a very dark turn in the Hunter Biden laptop scandal.

While the alleged crack, cronyism, corruption was enough to spark the biggest media suppression in history, and no denials whatsoever from the Biden camp, the bombshell that Rudy Giuliani just dropped, if true, is egregious to say the least (not just with regard Hunter Biden but the law enforcement authorities who have allegedly had this information since before Trump's impeachment but done nothing about it).

In an interview this evening with Newsmax TV, former NYC Mayor and current attorney to President Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani announces he has turned over Hunter Biden's laptop hard-drive to Delaware State Police due to pictures of underage girls and inappropriate text messages.

In one of the texts, Hunter Biden allegedly says to his sister-in-law (also his lover) that he face-timed a 14-year-old girl while naked and doing crack - "she told my therapist that I was sexually inappropriate."

Giuliani adds, "this would be with regard an unnamed 14 year old girl," adding that "this is supported by numerous pictures of underage girls."

Watch the full interview below (the above exchange begins around 5:20):

https://www.youtube.com/embed/coFx3ZDXWrg

Furthermore, JustTheNews' John Solomon reports that former New York Police Department commissioner Bernard Kerik joined him when he delivered photographs and text messages to the New Castle County Police Department.

https://lockerdome.com/lad/13084989113709670?pubid=ld-dfp-ad-13084989113709670-0&pubo=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com&rid=www.zerohedge.com&width=890

"I told them other details about what appears to be an inappropriate sexual relationship," he said in an interview. "They told me it would be investigated."

Law enforcement officials in Delaware told Just the News that Giuliani's concerns have been forwarded to the state Department of Justice.

"The FBI has had this for a long time," Giuliani said.

"No indication they did anything about this, so I went to the local police and said, 'What are you going to do about this?'"

Perhaps the most damning statement from Giuliani, with regard the election, was the former mayor alleging that:

"I will tell you the evidence I gave them states it was reported to Joe Biden. What did he do about it?"

Before this is wholly dismissed as yet more Russian disinformation or 'Giuliani' lies, we remind readers that we previously reported that Hunter Biden's alleged laptop contents included a curious piece of evidence - a photograph of an FBI subpoena which bears the signature of the agency's top child porn investigator, special agent Joshua Wilson.

FBI agent Wilson's identity was confirmed by both Western Journal and Business Insider , the latter of which compared his signature to a 2012 criminal complaint and concluded that it "clearly matches the unreversed signature on the subpoena published by the New York Post ."

As BI notes:

It's unclear whether the FBI employs more than one agent named Joshua Wilson. But the available evidence seems to show **the Joshua Wilson who signed the subpoena for Hunter Biden's laptop, and the Joshua Wilson who investigates child pornography for the FBI, are the same person**. This raises the possibility, not explored by the Post, that the FBI issued the subpoena for reasons unrelated to Hunter Biden's role in Ukraine and Burisma.

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So why is the FBI's top child porn lawyer involved in the Hunter Biden laptop case? OANN 's Chanel Rion says she's seen the contents of the hard drive, which includes "Drugs, underage obsessions, power deals," which make "Anthony Weiner's down under selfie addiction look normal . "

https://platform.twitter.com/embed/index.html?dnt=false&embedId=twitter-widget-0&frame=false&hideCard=false&hideThread=false&id=1316737387943395328&lang=en&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fpolitical%2Frudy-giuliani-turns-over-alleged-photos-underage-girls-hunters-hard-drive-delaware-police&siteScreenName=zerohedge&theme=light&widgetsVersion=ed20a2b%3A1601588405575&width=550px

All of which now makes some sense, given Giuliani's alleged findings, and raises a stunning question: if there is/was incriminating child porn on Hunter's computer, what has the FBI been doing about it?

[Oct 21, 2020] A Bidengate summary from the Daily Mail - Sic Semper Tyrannis

Notable quotes:
"... I always thought the Steele Dossier was poor trade craft; way too over the top. An example being jumping around on a bed and urinating on multiple prostitutes. It puzzled me why they would tell such far out stories. Why stretch credulity?. SWMBO's response was that such behavior is so ubiquitous and frequent among democrat elites that they just assume everyone is doing it. To them it's not far out in the least, it's just a typical Saturday night. I begin to think that she is on to something. ..."
Oct 21, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

A Bidengate summary from the Daily Mail "Documents appear to show Hunter Biden's signature on $85 receipt for repair of laptops left at Delaware store at center of email scandal - while other paperwork reveals FBI's contact with owner

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Well, pilgrims, he sure looks comfy in the tub. I still wonder who took the pictures. Was it the gal in California who later sued him over paternity of her child/fetus, whatever.

Did he take the pictures himself? Interestingly, the Bidens have not denied the implicit charge of corruption, bribery, etc., etc. that is the mass of incriminating e-mail traffic on the hard drive. And then, there are the disgusting sex videos. Does anyone think that these were faked?

SWMBO says that the Bidens have set a new standard for depraved and addled stupidity. As usual, she is right. pl

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8857893/Documents-Hunter-Bidens-signature-Delaware-computer-repair-shop-receipt.html


Eric Newhill , 20 October 2020 at 12:17 PM

It's interesting that Bidens, Epsteins, Clintons, Hollywood types, Weiners, et al engage in all of the sordid behaviors that they accused Trump of in the "Steele Dossier" (and then some).

I always thought the Steele Dossier was poor trade craft; way too over the top. An example being jumping around on a bed and urinating on multiple prostitutes. It puzzled me why they would tell such far out stories. Why stretch credulity?. SWMBO's response was that such behavior is so ubiquitous and frequent among democrat elites that they just assume everyone is doing it. To them it's not far out in the least, it's just a typical Saturday night. I begin to think that she is on to something.

Deap , 20 October 2020 at 12:20 PM

Borgs for Biden - 50 former intel agents sign statement claiming this Hunter Biden thing is a Russian disinformation racket: https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2020/10/20/50-former-intel-agents-flush-their-credibility-and-show-why-their-agency-should-be-blown-up/

Any familiar names here, any traps the unwary?

turcopolier , 20 October 2020 at 12:24 PM

Deap Brennan, Clapper, McLaughlin are all properly described as intelligence bureaucrats, not "agents."

BillWade , 20 October 2020 at 01:42 PM

Rudy Guiliani and Steve Bannon stated this morning that more information will be forthcoming within 24-48 hours. The Q folks are thinking that it will be released on Thurs morning for maximum effect at the later in the evening debate. The Admiral who oversaw the Bin Laden raid has endorsed Joe Biden in spite of being a pro life and 2nd amendment advocate. Things are getting interesting to say the least.

TV , 20 October 2020 at 02:31 PM

Another oxymoron, like "government worker" - "intelligence" officials.
Self important parasites....oh wait....selfless patriots who "risk their lives every day" for America.

NancyK , 20 October 2020 at 02:51 PM

The Bidens are not involved, one Biden is. Joe Biden is not responsible for his son's idiocy. I do believe he has massive addiction issues but I need a lot more proof that he took all 3 of his computers in for work and the bill was only $85.00. I need the name of that repair shop it is much more expensive where I live.

Keith Harbaugh , 20 October 2020 at 02:57 PM

Here is an account from the MSM documenting Biden Inc.'s practice of graft.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/08/02/joe-biden-investigation-hunter-brother-hedge-fund-money-2020-campaign-227407

Quote:

"Don't worry about investors," [James Biden] said, according to the executive,
who spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing fear of retaliation.
"We've got people all around the world who want to invest in Joe Biden."

End quote

Anybody claiming Politico is a Russian disinformation operation?

Thanks to Andrew McCarthy for the link.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AndrewCMcCarthy/status/1318595953893494785

ancientarcher , 20 October 2020 at 03:40 PM

Colonel,

While I hope and pray for a Trump victory, I am not so sure that he will be able to overcome systematic rigging. What is your opinion on the level of rigging that is going on?

All sorts of worms from all over the place are crawling up and endorsing the slime ridden corrupt Bidens. Who knows what sort of pressure must have been put on them to do that. And if that is so, can you imagine the level of pressure the democrat machine must have put on those who are in charge of conducting the election? Look at the commission on presidential debates for God's sake. Absolutely, no hint of neutrality there!

The media is pulling the wool over everyone's eyes just like in the last election. The polls are all for democrats, again, just like the last election. Methinks the difference this time might just be the magnitude of vote rigging that the democrats will do. How much more will that be versus the last time? Enough to swing the election?

TV , 20 October 2020 at 04:10 PM

BillWade:
That's the same (Obama) Admiral who said that Trump should be gone:
"......then it is time for a new person in the Oval Office -- Republican, Democrat or independent -- the sooner, the better."
Like the other retired brass and "intelligence" officials, just more swamp creatures wailing about an "outsider" disturbing their little world of endless losing wars and a foreign policy of bending over.

BillWade , 20 October 2020 at 04:56 PM

NancyK, Which is worse, voting for someone with dementia or voting for someone pretending to have dementia?

I haven't heard anything about Joe's brother or sister-in-law having a drug problem, have you? Maybe they just have a pay to play problem, any thoughts?

Hillary certainly looked wonderful in her Chinese cut clothing in the 2016 debates. Joe's got those nice 3 Red Flags going for him on his campaign poster, maybe he should wear a rice farmer's hat to the upcoming debate, no?

I decided to vote today instead of Nov 5th as you had recommended. Did I do the right thing?

ancientarcher , 20 October 2020 at 05:00 PM

NancyK,

You think Joe is innocent of all that has been done by his family? You think druggy Hunter deserved to get a senior vice president position at MBNA straight after graduating from college at $100k a year or that seat at Burisma at $50k a month? Do you think he deserved all of that not because of his dad's influence but because he was so smart and because he graduated from yale? If you believe all of that, you must be smoking some strong stuff.

Here is something you can read to improve your knowledge. This is not how a normal cv looks like, for sure.

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2020/10/16/joe_bidens_boosters_wrote_his_prodigal_sons_entire_resume_125616.html


Brats like Hunter don't get these amazing deals because they are smart or create value for their employers because of their work. He got these deals because it is a way of paying off his father, the guy who then bats for these employers in the senate or the white house.

james , 20 October 2020 at 05:56 PM

@ NancyK.. true - biden senior is not responsible for biden junior... however it seems junior got the gig thanks daddys connections and willingness to fire the prosecutor so that junior could continue to have the job! that is the part you appear to be turning a blind eye to.... senior has major dirt on him due all this.. either you think it is a made up russian propaganda set up, or you think it isn't... there is enough info at present to show that it isn't a set up, but that daddy was using his position as vp unscrupulously or criminal depending on how you want to filter it.. the fact the media want to push it under the carpet with whatever excuse they provide, doesn't change any of it..

Deap , 20 October 2020 at 06:01 PM

Vote rigging?

14 House seats in California GOP districts flipped a few weeks after the GOP "won" on election night. It took that long for all the third party "harvested votes" to go through the government employee union dominated election office verification procedures.

This election when the GOP turned tables and did their own "vote-harvesting" the Democrat AG and Secy of State cried foul, sent the GOP a cease and desist letter to stop or face fines and punishment. GOP said go pound sand. And the Dems had to back down since the law was too vague to even be enforced.

Unfortunately this means the Democrats in this state will only double down on their "vote harvesting". As if winning or losing California matters - except in the House. One guesses, after the 2020 census California will lose a few House seats anyway, due to the state's outflow of population and the reluctance of illegals to participate in the census in the first place.

Don't forget, it was "term limits" that led to this one-party, one agenda domination of this state. Never ever think "term limits" is an answer for anything.

Term limits only created a huge power vacuum, and in swooped the Democrat back public sector unions running a steady string of revolving door talking head flunkies out of the public sector union world, who immediately passed super-majority legislation that only solidified their permanent domination. It happened so fast since 2000, few in the state knew what hit them.

In 2016, they added "vote- harvesting" - allowing third parties to help fill out and collect mail-in ballots and drop them off by the car loads, which technically must be checked and verified, but in such volumes as to overwhelm the election offices - Cloward-Pivens on steroids- a favorite technique of Barry Soetoro.

turcopolier , 20 October 2020 at 06:52 PM

james

You are mistaken. Under US law they, IMO, are a conspiracy under RICO.

[Oct 21, 2020] This Is Not A Russian Hoax 'Nonpublic Information' Debunks Letter From '50 Former Intel Officials'

Highly recommended!
Is this 50 former Intel officials or 50 former national security parasites? Real Intel officials should keep quite after retirement. National security parasites go to politics and lobbying. One telling sign that a particular parson is a "national security parasite" is his desire to play "Russian card"
From comments: "Did the 50 former intelligence officials find the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction yet?"
Oct 21, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
"This Is Not A Russian Hoax": 'Nonpublic Information' Debunks Letter From '50 Former Intel Officials'

by Tyler Durden Tue, 10/20/2020 - 08:45 Twitter Facebook Reddit Email Print

Hours before Politico reported the existence of a letter signed by '50 former senior intelligence officials' who say the Hunter Biden laptop scandal "has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation" - providing "no new evidence," while they remain "deeply suspicious that the Russian government played a significant role in this case," Tucker Carlson obliterated their (literal) conspiracy theory .

According to the Fox News host, he's seen 'nonpublic information that proves it was Hunter's laptop ,' adding " No one but Hunter could've known about or replicated this information ."

" This is not a Russian hoax. We are not speculating ."

Watch:

https://platform.twitter.com/embed/index.html?dnt=false&embedId=twitter-widget-0&frame=false&hideCard=false&hideThread=false&id=1317255675320348673&lang=en&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fpolitical%2Fnot-russian-hoax-tucker-carlson-has-seen-nonpublic-information-proving-laptop-was-hunter&siteScreenName=zerohedge&theme=light&widgetsVersion=ed20a2b%3A1601588405575&width=550px

TUCKER: "This afternoon, we received nonpublic information that proves it was Hunter's laptop. No one but Hunter could've known about or replicated this information. This is not a Russian hoax. We are not speculating." pic.twitter.com/cl2ktdmdVc

-- August Takala (@AugustTakala) October 17, 2020

Meanwhile, the Delaware computer repair shop owner who believes Hunter dropped off three MacBook Pros for data recovery has a signed work order bearing Hunter's signature . When compared to the signature on a document in his paternity suit, while one looks more formal than the other, they are a match.

Going back to the '50 former senior intelligence officials' and their latest Russia fixation, one has to wonder - do they think Putin was able to compromise Biden's former business associate , Bevan Cooney, who gave investigative journalist Peter Schweizer his gmail password - revealing that Hunter and his partners were engaged in an influence-peddling operation for rich Chinese who wanted access to the Obama administration?

https://lockerdome.com/lad/13084989113709670?pubid=ld-dfp-ad-13084989113709670-0&pubo=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com&rid=www.zerohedge.com&width=890

Did Putin further hack Joe Biden in 2011 to make him take a meeting with a Chinese delegation with ties to the CCP - arranged by Hunter's group, two years they secured a massive investment of Chinese money?

The implications boggle the mind.

Here's the clarifying sentences from the '50 former senior intelligence officials' that exposes the utter farce of it all:

While the letter's signatories presented no new evidence , they said their national security experience had made them "deeply suspicious that the Russian government played a significant role in this case" and cited several elements of the story that suggested the Kremlin's hand at work.

"If we are right," they added, "this is Russia trying to influence how Americans vote in this election, and we believe strongly that Americans need to be aware of this."

It would appear these former intel officials are not aware of the current intel official views, confirmed by DNI Ratcliffe yesterday that:

"Hunter Biden's laptop is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign."

And then there's the fact that no one from the Biden campaign has yet to deny any of the 'facts' in the emails. lay_arrow jin187 , 2 hours ago

Totally ridiculous. This ******** beating around the bush for both sides pisses me off. Dump all the laptop contents on Wikileaks if it's real. Let the people sort it out. If you say it's not real, prove it. If Biden wants me to believe it's not real, then stand behind a podium, and say clear as day into a pile of cameras that's it's all a forgery, and that you've done nothing wrong.

Instead we have Giuliani swearing he has a smoking gun, but as far as I can tell he's just pointing his finger underneath his shirt. Biden on the other hand, keep using weasel words to imply it's fake, but never denies it outright. It's almost like he's trying to hedge his bet that no one will manage to prove it's real before he gets into office, and makes it disappear.

Roacheforque , 7 hours ago

To play the "Russian Card" yet again should be beyond embarrassing. An insult to the intelligence of anyone with an IQ over 80. And so it's harmful to the left wingnut derangeables. Like Assad's chemical weapons and Saddam's WMDs, it is now code for pure ********. Not even code, just more like a signal.

A signal that say's "guilty as charged - we got nothin' but lies and BS over here".

East Indian , 4 hours ago

An insult to the intelligence of anyone with an IQ over 80.

They know their supporters wont find this insulting.

Kayman , 4 hours ago

@vulvishka.

538 ? North Korea has better propaganda.

Don't forget to go all in, like you did with Hillary.

Antedeluvian , 2 hours ago

Unfortunately, some very bright people are sucked into the conspiracy theory. I know one. Very bright lawyer. She says, "I still think there is substantive evidence of Russian collusion." I can point to a sky criss-crossed with chemtrails (when you see these "contrails" crossing at the same altitude, this is one sure clue these are not from regular passenger jet traffic) and she refuses to look up. She KNOWS I am an idiot (a PhD scientist idiot at that) because I get news and analysis on the web from sites that just want to sell me tee shirts and coffee mugs (well, she is partly right there!) whereas she gets her news from MSNBC, a venerable and trustworthy news source.

4DegreesOfSeparation , 6 hours ago

More Than 50 Former Intel Officials Say Hunter Biden Smear Smells Like Russia

"If we are right," the group wrote in a letter, "this is Russia trying to influence how Americans vote."

DescendantofthePatriots , 7 hours ago

That ****, James Clapper, signed his name at the top of this list.

Known liar, saboteur, and sneak.

The cognitive dissonance in our country is astounding. The fact that they would take these people's opinion over hard fact is astounding.

No wonder why we're sliding down the steep, slippery slope.

strych10 , 8 hours ago

So... let me get this straight.

50, that's 10 times five, fifty former intelligence officials are going with a convoluted narrative about a ludicrously complicated Russian Intelligence disinformation campaign involving planted laptops and at least half a dozen patsies when the two words "crack cocaine" explain the entire thing?

I'm not sure what's more terrifying; That these people think everyone else is dumb enough to believe this or that they're actually retired intelligence officials ​​​​​​.

Who the actual **** is running this ****show? The bastard child of Barney Fife and Inspector Clouseau?

Seriously, "Pink Panther Disinformation Operation" is more believable at this point.

Someone Else , 9 hours ago

This needs to get out, because a FAVORITE method of the Deep State, Democrats and the media (but I repeat myself) is to parade some sort of a stupid letter with a bunch of signature hoping to look impressive but that really don't mean a damn thing.

Notre Dame graduates against the Supreme Court nominee, Intelligence agents alleging collusion, former State Department operatives against Trump. Its grandstanding that has been overdone.

moneybots , 8 hours ago

The letter by 50 former intelligence officials is itself, disinformation.

otschelnik , 8 hours ago

Remember when Weiner's attorney turned over Huma's home laptop to SDNY/FBI with all of Shillary's emails, and the FBI sat on it for a month and then Comey deep sixed them without even looking at them?

So now the FBI subpeona'd Hunter's laptop and burried it? Deja vu all over again.

enough of this , 8 hours ago

The FBI and DOJ constantly hide behind self-serving excuses to refuse the release of documents and, when forced to do so, they release heavily redacted files. They offer up the usual pretexts to fend off public disclosure such as: the information you seek cannot be disclosed because it involves an ongoing investigation, or the information you seek involves national security, or our methods and sources will be jeopardized if the information you seek is divulged to the public. But it seems the ones who would be most harmed by public disclosure are the corrupt FBI and DOJ officials themselves

Cobra Commander , 7 hours ago

A short 4 years ago the FBI and CIA were all concerned about "Kompromat" the Ruskies might have on Candidate Trump; concerned enough to spy on his campaign and open a counter-intelligence operation.

There are troves of Kompromat material, actual emails and video, on Joe, Hunter, and the whole Biden family; not made-up DNC-funded dossiers claiming a Russian consulate in Miami.

Now when it's Candidate Biden, everyone be all like, "Meh."

Cobra!

The Fonz...before shark jump , 5 hours ago

we gotta listen to the 50 former intelligence agents...you know the ones that had lone superpower status in the early 90s and then pissed it all away with 9/11 and infinity wars in middle east hahahahah ok buddy lol... histories D students....

Occams_Razor_Trader_Part_Deux , 7 hours ago

Signed by James Clapper and John Brennan;

You mean, the 2 Bozos who under the threat of perjury said there was NO evidence of Russian Collusion and the Trump campaign................. and 2 hours later called Trump 'Putin's puppet' on CNN.............

[Oct 21, 2020] DNI Says Hunter Biden Emails Are Not 'Russian Disinformation'

Oct 19, 2020 | news.antiwar.com
Ratcliffe responded to comments made by Rep. Adam Schiff

Dave DeCamp Posted on October 19, 2020 Categories News Tags Biden , Russiagate , Ukraine

Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe said on Monday that the information published by The New York Post that allegedly came from Hunter Biden's laptop is not part of a "Russian disinformation campaign."

Ratcliffe's comments came after Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA), the House Intelligence Committee chairman, said the scandal surrounding the Bidens and a Ukrainian gas company is a "smear" coming "from the Kremlin."

"Hunter Biden's laptop is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign," Ratcliffe said in an interview with Fox Business . "Let me be clear: The intelligence community doesn't believe that because there is no intelligence that supports that. And we have shared no intelligence with Adam Schiff, or any member of Congress."

Ratcliffe said the FBI is now in possession of the laptop. He said the FBI's investigation is "not centered around Russian disinformation."

Issues have been raised concerning the chain of custody of the laptop since two allies of President Trump were involved, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, and former White House strategist Steve Bannon. But besides speculation from Schiff and the media, nothing ties the laptop to Moscow.

The first email published by the Post last week purports Hunter Biden introduced his father, then-Vice President Joe Biden, to a top executive of the Ukrainian company Burisma Holdings in 2015. Joe Biden has previously said that he never spoke with Hunter about his overseas business dealings.

Hunter Biden landed a high-paying job with Burisma Holdings after the Obama administration orchestrated a coup in Ukraine . Joe Biden has been accused of leveraging a US loan to Kyiv to pressure Ukrainian officials to fire a prosecutor investigating corruption at the company.

[Oct 21, 2020] Giuliani- I Turned Over Hunter Biden's Laptop With Pictures Of -Underage Girls- To Delaware Police

Oct 21, 2020 | www.realclearpolitics.com

Posted By Ian Schwartz
On Date October 20, 2020

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Rudy Giuliani talks about "sensitive" material on the laptop of Hunter Biden including "numerous pictures" of underage girls and an alleged text message exchange he had with his father where he admits to a relationship with a 14-year-old girl and creating an unsafe environment for his children.

The former New York City mayor said he turned the laptop over to police in Delaware with Bernard Kerik because he felt "uncomfortable" with it in his possession in an interview Monday with Newsmax TV's Greg Kelly.

Giuliani narrated the text message in which Hunter talks about his former sister-in-law and lover with the elder Biden:

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She told my therapist that I was sexually inappropriate. (Giuliani: This would be with an unnamed 14-year-old girl.)

When she says that I Facetime naked with [the unnamed 14-year-old girl] and the reason I can't have her out to see me is because I walk around naked smoking crack talking... girls on face time. When she was pressed she said that [the unnamed 14-year-old girl] never said anything like that but the bottom line is that I created and caused a very unsafe environment for the kids.

"This is supported by numerous pictures of underage girls," Giuliani said after reading the message.

"Bernie Kerik and I turned it over to the Delaware State Police because I'm very uncomfortable with this. And I'm very uncomfortable with the fact that these underage girls were not protected," he said.

Giuliani later said that this is not about Hunter Biden but exposing Joe Biden as incompetent. "This is not about Hunter," Giuliani said, but about what a criminal and "horrible father" Joe Biden is. Related Videos

[Oct 21, 2020] Peter Schweizer- Hunter Biden's jailed former business partner flips, grants access to NEVER-before-revealed emails - TheBlaze

Oct 21, 2020 | www.theblaze.com


When Bevan Cooney -- the former "junior" business partner to Hunter Biden and Devon Archer -- went to jail in 2019, investigative reporter and New York Times bestselling author Peter Schweizer thought he'd never gain access to the damning emails Cooney had promised. That all changed three weeks ago when Schweizer was given complete access to Cooney's gmail account. POLL: Did you watch any of the 2020 Presidential Town Halls last night?

Schweizer joined Glenn Beck on the radio program Tuesday to describe just some of the business deals revealed within these emails -- like Hunter working with an alleged Russian criminal and with Chinese communists to secure their assets, or to secure one-on-one time with his dad, then-Vice President Joe Biden. And all of this new information is completely separate from the emails allegedly discovered on Hunter Biden's laptop recently reported by the New York Post.

"So, I want to make this clear. This [Cooney's emails] has nothing to do with what's on the laptop It didn't come from [Rudy] Giuliani. It didn't come from anybody else, right?" Glenn asked Schweizer.

That's absolutely correct," Schweizer confirmed.

He briefly explained how Cooney, a former Los Angeles nightclub owner, is currently serving a prison sentence for his involvement in a fraudulent business bond scheme with Biden and Archer. From prison, Cooney gave Schweizer written permission to access his Gmail account.

"This is really important," he noted. "We're not looking at printouts. Not looking at PDFs. We're actually in his Gmail accounts themselves, sifting through these emails. And there's a shocking amount of information about deals involving China, involving Russia, involving all sorts of things they were trying to pull off ."

Watch the video below to catch more of the conversation:

[Oct 21, 2020] Peter Schweizer- We Will Prove Hunter Biden Laundered Russian Oligarch's Money - Video - RealClearPolitics

Oct 21, 2020 | www.realclearpolitics.com

Posted By Tim Hains
On Date October 18, 2020

Peter Schweizer: We Will Prove Hunter Biden Laundered Russian Oligarch's Money

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Government Accountability Institute President Peter Schweizer told FNC's Sean Hannity on Friday that evidence will be released before the election proving that Hunter Biden and Russian oligarch Elena Baturina have more of a relationship than previously admitted.

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HANNITY: All right. So, we can bifurcate for people. This is all separate from what The New York Post was reporting this week. This is separate from what we knew earlier, and it's separate from Ron Johnson and Chuck Grassley's report that they put out, 87 pages, which talked about, well, Russian oligarchs, Kazakh oligarchs, the $3.5 million payment with the former first lady of Moscow, Chinese nationals, $100,000 shopping spree, Russian nationals, Kazakhs nationals, Ukrainian nationals.

How much money are we talking about here, and were all three of them involved in all of these endeavors?

SCHWEIZER: Well, it kind of jumps around, but let me just make clear, these are all separate emails from The New York Post and what the Senate did, but they all reinforce the same.

I mean, to take, for example, Ms. Baturina, the Russian oligarch links to organized crime that the Senate sent $3.5 million based on Treasury Department documents, we will be rolling out a story in a couple of days demonstrating that their relationship, meaning Hunter and Devon Archer's relationship with Elena Baturina goes way back and they were performing a number of banking and other financial services for her, services that they had trouble doing, by the way, because several banks did not want to work with her because the money was seen as dirty.

HANNITY: So, literally, these nationals were allowed access to Biden inside the White House according to these emails. I guess my next question is if both of Hunter's business partners are convicted, how did he go scot-free?

SCHWEIZER: Well, that's the question, Sean. There was a trial in 2016, and we actually, I've gone through the notes of that trial, and what it demonstrates is that Hunter Biden's fingerprints are all over this. He has named repeatedly in the court trials, but he was never charged by the prosecutors in New York.

[Oct 21, 2020] Is FBI investigating child pornography on Hunter Biden's laptop- 'You just made the connection' - Geller Report News

Oct 21, 2020 | gellerreport.com

A top Republican senator acknowledged the possibility that the FBI investigated whether there was child pornography on a laptop and hard drive that allegedly belonged to Hunter Biden.

by Daniel Chaitin, Washington Editor | October 18, 2020 12:50 PM

Journalist Maria Bartiromo asked Sen. Ron Johnson, the chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, about a Business Insider report that described faint handwriting on a subpoena served last year to a Delaware business that was given a water-damaged MacBook Pro to repair but was never retrieved and a hard drive with its contents. The hardware purportedly contained data about foreign business dealings and other matters related to the son of former Vice President Joe Biden.

The subpoena appeared to show the FBI agent who served it was someone named "Joshua Wilson." There was a Joshua Wilson, according to a Star-Ledger report published last year , who was an FBI agent based in New Jersey who spent nearly five years investigating child pornography, but it remains unclear if this is the same Wilson and what exactly the bureau was investigating.

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Bartiromo twice asked Johnson, a lead congressional investigator, if he knows of any connection on her Fox News program, Sunday Morning Futures .

"I think you just made the connection. Again, this is what the FBI, I think, has to come clean about," the Wisconsin Republican said in his first reply. Johnson was alluding to his letter to FBI Director Christopher Wray about the laptop sent last week.

Pressed a second time after his initial response, the senator said he could not comment any further.

"I don't want to speculate, other than to say that -- what I said publicly before. Our report uncovered so many troubling connections, so many things that need to be investigated, that I really think we're just scratching the surface," Johnson said. "And, yes, I have heard all kinds of things that I think will probably be revealed over the next few days."

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Republicans, including President Trump, have repeatedly raised the younger Biden's foreign business ventures as being ripe for corruption that could stem all the way to his father, who is now running for president. Joe Biden called the reporting on the emails and photos that purportedly come from his son's laptop, a story that was broken by the New York Post last week , a "smear campaign." Still, neither Hunter Biden nor the Biden campaign have disputed the validity of the data that has generated a wave of headlines in recent days.

John Paul Mac Isaac, the computer store owner in Delaware who claims he copied the hard drive of the laptop that he later gave to former Mayor Rudy Giuliani's lawyer, Robert Costello, told reporters last week he "did not see" child pornography on the hardware.

Asked about the burgeoning controversy, an FBI spokesperson told the Washington Examiner last week that the bureau declines to comment "keeping with our standard practice of not confirming or denying the existence of an investigation." The Associated Press reported the FBI is now investigating whether Russia was involved in the release of emails tied to Hunter Biden.

[Oct 21, 2020] The Biden Campaign and China's Oligarchs - Global ResearchGlobal Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

Oct 21, 2020 | www.globalresearch.ca

The Biden Campaign and China's Oligarchs By Nauman Sadiq Global Research, October 19, 2020 Region: Asia , Europe , USA Theme: Intelligence In-depth Report: U.S. Elections

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In two bombshell reports, Emma-Jo Morris and Gabrielle Fonrouge of the New York Post have leveled damning allegations of Hunter Biden' s murky financial dealings with Ukrainian and Chinese oligarchs. As expected, $50,000 remuneration paid by Burisma Holdings of Ukraine annually for Hunter's "consultancy job" was only the tip of the iceberg. Hunter was paid millions of dollars bribes that sustained his "rockstar lifestyle" over the years.

Although it was the first report [1] published on Thursday, October 14, and titled "Smoking-gun email reveals how Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad" that gained most attention on the mainstream media, it was the second report [2] published on Friday, October 15, in which the authors have furnished documentary evidence of Hunter Biden's dealings, amounting to millions of dollars and stakes in equities and profits of a private Chinese oil company doing business in Africa, with a Chinese billionaire Ye Jianming that raises serious questions whether the loyalty of the Biden campaign to the American electorate has been compromised due to Hunter Biden's illicit financial transactions with the representatives of the Chinese government.

Image on the right: CEFC's founder Ye Jianming. Photo: SCMP/Handout

China detains CEFC's founder Ye Jianming, wiping out US$153 million in value off stocks | South China Morning Post

It's noteworthy that the name of Ye Jianming came up in the Johnson-Grassley report released last month, too.

"The Suspicious Activity Reports of the Treasury Department flagged millions of dollars in transactions from the Ukrainian gas company Burisma Holdings, a Russian oligarch named Yelena Baturina, and a Chinese businessmen with ties to Beijing's communist government," the Senate report said.

The Johnson-Grassley report further alleged:

"Hunter Biden had business associations with Ye Jianming, Gongwen, and other Chinese nationals linked to the communist government and the People's Liberation Army. Those associations resulted in millions of dollars in cash flow."

Corroborating the Senate investigation, Emma-Jo Morris and Gabrielle Fonrouge noted in the second report of the New York Post:

"Another email -- sent by Biden as part of an Aug. 2, 2017, chain -- involved a deal he struck with the since-vanished chairman of CEFC, Ye Jianming, for half-ownership of a holding company that was expected to provide Biden with more than $10 million a year 'for introductions alone.'

"'The chairman changed that deal after we me[t] in MIAMI TO A MUCH MORE LASTING AND LUCRATIVE ARRANGEMENT to create a holding company 50% percent [sic] owned by ME and 50% owned by him,' Biden wrote.

"A photo dated Aug. 1, 2017, shows a handwritten flowchart of the ownership of 'Hudson West' split 50/50 between two entities ultimately controlled by Hunter Biden and someone identified as 'Chairman.'

"According to a report on Biden's overseas business dealings released last month by Sens. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) and Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), a company called Hudson West III opened a line of credit in September 2017.

"Biden's email was sent to Gongwen Dong, whom the Wall Street Journal in October 2018 tied to the purchase by Ye-linked companies of two luxury Manhattan apartments that cost a total on $83 million.

"The documents obtained by The Post also include an 'Attorney Engagement Letter' executed in September 2017 in which one of Ye's top lieutenants, former Hong Kong government official Chi Ping Patrick Ho, agreed to pay Biden a $1 million retainer for 'Counsel to matters related to US law and advice pertaining to the hiring and legal analysis of any US Law Firm or Lawyer.'

"In December 2018, a Manhattan federal jury convicted Ho in two schemes to pay $3 million in bribes to high-ranking government officials in Africa for oil rights in Chad and lucrative business deals in Uganda. Ho served a three-year prison sentence and was deported to Hong Kong in June."

According to a Washington Post report [3] in September:

"Ye Jianming had made inroads with Joe Biden's brother James Biden, as well as Hunter Biden, as the Chinese tycoon sought to build influence in the United States. In early 2018, Hunter Biden was paid $1 million to represent Ye's aide while he was facing the federal bribery charges in the United States.

"In August 2017, a subsidiary of Ye's company wired $5 million into the bank account of a US company called Hudson West III, which over the next 13 months sent $4.79 million marked as consulting fees to Hunter Biden's firm, the report said. Over the same period, Hunter Biden's firm wired some $1.4 million to a firm associated with his uncle and aunt, James and Sara Biden."

Ironically, it was the mainstream media that first broke the story of the illicit financial transactions between the Biden family and Chinese billionaire Ye Jianming in December 2018, though that was a year before Joe Biden was chosen as the Democratic presidential candidate in April.

Giving a detailed biographical account of Ye Jianming from his rapid ascent to a sudden fall from grace in 2017, as the FBI closed in on the Chinese billionaire's company and aides, a December 2018 New York Times report [4] revealed:

"Ye Jianming, a fast-rising Chinese oil tycoon, ventured to places only the most politically connected Chinese companies dared to go. But what he wanted was access to the corridors of power in Washington -- and he set out to get it.

"Soon, he was meeting with the family of Joseph R. Biden Jr., who was then the vice president. He dined with R. James Woolsey Jr., a former Central Intelligence Agency director and later a senior adviser to President Trump. He bestowed lavish funding on universities and think tanks with direct access to top Washington leaders, looking for the benefits access can bring.

"'This is a guy who courted and maintained networks with the People's Liberation Army and took the strategy of 'friends in high places,' said Jude Blanchette, a senior adviser and China head at Crumpton Group, a business intelligence firm.

"He seemed to have the blessings of Beijing. State banks offered CEFC billions of dollars in loans. The company also hired a large number of former military officers, whom Mr. Ye told visitors he prized for their organizational skills. He was deputy secretary of a Chinese military organization from 2003 to 2005 that congressional researchers called a front for the People's Liberation Army unit that has 'dual roles of intelligence collection and conducting People's Republic of China propaganda.'

"From 2009 to 2017, CEFC's revenue jumped from $48 million to $37 billion. [a time period incidentally coinciding with Joe Biden's vice presidency.]

"'It's been clear for some time that this is not just a Chinese commercial company, that they had some intelligence ties,' Mr. Martin Hala, an academic based in Prague, said. 'People from the U.S. intelligence agencies should have known something was going on.'

"Five years ago, CEFC approached Bobby Ray Inman, a retired admiral and national security adviser to President Jimmy Carter, about setting up a joint venture, Mr. Inman said in an interview. The company promised it would pay him $1 million a year, without specifying what business they would go into. He turned down the offer.

"On a 2015 trip to the United States Ye met with Alan Greenspan, the former Federal Reserve chairman, to discuss the economy, according to CEFC.

"CEFC also donated at least $350,000 to the Institute for the Analysis of Global Security, a politically connected think tank, according to court testimony. The think tank counts Robert C. McFarlane, the Reagan-era national security adviser, as its president and Mr. Woolsey, a Clinton-era C.I.A. director, as its co-chairman.

"Mr. Ye also further loosened CEFC's purse strings, donating as much as $100,000 to the Clinton Foundation. Outside the Beltway, a CEFC foundation donated at least $500,000 to a Columbia University research center.

"CEFC also organized forums in Hong Kong and Washington that brought together retired American and Chinese military officers, among other events.

"By 2015, Mr. Ye had begun working on perhaps his most politically connected quarry yet: the family of Mr. Biden, the vice president.

"An aide to Mr. Ye met the vice president's second son, Hunter Biden, in Washington. Mr. Ye then met privately with Hunter Biden at a hotel in Miami in May 2017. Mr. Ye proposed a partnership to invest in American infrastructure and energy deals.

"During this period, the vice president's son was managing Rosemont Seneca Partners, an investment firm he formed with Chris Heinz, the stepson of John Kerry, the former secretary of state.

"The trial and conviction in New York in December 2018 of one of his top lieutenants, Patrick Ho, showed that company officials used bribery to win oil and energy contracts in Africa.

"In 2017, as American authorities closed in on Mr. Ye's company, the first call made by one of his emissaries in custody was to Mr. Biden's brother.

"James Biden, a financier and brother of the former vice president, was in a hotel lobby in November 2017 when he got a surprise call on his cellphone. The call was from Patrick Ho, Mr. Ye's lieutenant. Mr. Ho, 69, was in trouble.

"In a brief interview, James Biden said he had been surprised by Mr. Ho's call. He said he believed it had been meant for Hunter Biden, the former vice president's son. James Biden said he had passed on his nephew's contact information.

"'There is nothing else I have to say,' James Biden said. 'I don't want to be dragged into this anymore.'

"Federal agents who had monitored CEFC's rise since at least the summer of 2016 had sprung into action, arresting Mr. Ho in New York on allegations that he had bribed African officials in Chad and Uganda.

"Mr. Ye, meanwhile, has disappeared into the custody of the Chinese authorities. He was last seen in February, 2018, when his private jet touched down in the Chinese city of Hangzhou. CEFC is struggling under $15 billion in debt, and was dissolved early this year."

After reading all this revelatory information regarding suspicious financial transactions between prominent former officials of the US government and the "disappeared" Chinese billionaire, it becomes abundantly clear that Ye Jianming, most likely a pseudonym, was a frontman for the Chinese government who was sent on a clandestine mission to nurture business relations with the Beltway elites, and later made to disappear after his cover was blown once his aides were charged with criminal offenses in the US courts.

China is known to follow the economic model of "state capitalism," in which although small and medium enterprises are permitted to operate freely by common citizens, large industrial and extraction companies, especially a multi-billion dollar corporation the size of CEFC, are run by the Communist Party stalwarts masquerading as business executives.

In addition, China is alleged to practice "debt-trap diplomacy" for buying entire governments through extending financial grants and loans, and what better way to buy the rival government of the United States than by financing the Biden campaign through bestowing financial largesse on the profligate son of the former vice president and current presidential candidate.

Image below: Guo Wengui (Source: Wikimedia Commons)

Guo Wengui - Wikipedia

Notwithstanding, in a tit-for-tat response to the New York Post's explosive report alleging Hunter Biden introduced a top executive at a Ukrainian energy firm he was working for to his vice president dad, the Daily Beast came up with a scoop [5] on Friday, October 16, that the hard disks in which Hunter's emails were found were provided to Rudy Giuliani by a Chinese billionaire Guo Wengui on behalf of dissident members of the Chinese Communist Party.

According to the report,

"Weeks before the New York Post began publishing what it claimed were the contents of Hunter Biden's hard drive, a Sept. 25 segment on a YouTube channel run by a Chinese dissident streamer, who is linked to billionaire and Steve Bannon-backer Guo Wengui, broadcast a bizarre conspiracy theory.

"According to the streamer, Chinese politburo officials had 'sent three hard disks of evidence' to the Justice Department and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi containing damaging information about Joe Biden as well as the origins of the coronavirus in a bid to undermine the rule of Chinese President Xi Jinping

"While Guo's ties to Steve Bannon have long been known -- Bannon was arrested for defrauding donors in August on a 152-foot-long yacht reportedly owned by Guo -- the billionaire appears to have also joined forces with Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani in the former New York mayor's relentless anti-Biden dirt-digging crusade."

Besides posting pictures of Rudy Giuliani and Guo Wengui "cavorting and smoking cigars together" and leveling unsubstantiated allegations that Giuliani has stakes in Guo's fashion lineup, the Daily Beast hasn't challenged the authenticity of Hunter's emails but only questioned the source of origin of hard disks containing irrefutable evidence of the Biden family's murky financial dealings and made a paradoxical claim that dissident members of Chinese Communist Party are trying to sabotage Joe Biden's electoral campaign on Trump's behalf.

Nevertheless, the report raises startling questions that why Chinese dissidents would form "a government-in-exile" in the United States and allegedly support the Trump campaign against Joe Biden's bid for the presidency unless the Biden campaign had received financial support from the government of People's Republic of China whom the Chinese dissidents want to subvert.

The report further alleges:

"Guo Wengui has been in the Trumpworld orbit pretty much from the beginning, paying the $200,000 initiation fee to become a member of the president's Florida golf resort Mar-a-Lago, which Trump has dubbed the 'Southern White House.' But Guo's membership soon became a headache for the administration in the run-up to Trump's first summit meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping in 2017, due to Guo's fugitive status in China.

"At one point, Trump had reportedly considered deporting Guo after the Chinese government called for his extradition in a letter delivered to Trump by casino mogul Steve Wynn in 2017. After presenting the letter during a policy meeting, the president reportedly said, 'We need to get this criminal out of the country,' only for aides to remind him that Guo was a Mar-a-Lago member, eventually talking him out of the decision and ensuring the deportation was scuttled

"Guo has framed himself as a stalwart critic of the CCP and China's corrupt elite, but his efforts have divided China's exile community. Guo has enthusiastically attacked other critics of Beijing as jealous poseurs, including most recently a Texas Christian pastor and Tiananmen protester named Bob Fu -- who was imprisoned in China for his faith before escaping to the U.S. -- whom Guo accuses of being a secret agent for the CCP. Fu has lobbed the same charge back at Guo and his followers."

Instead of debunking Trump's witty remarks following the publishing of Hunter Biden's emails that "the Biden family treated the vice presidency as a for-profit corporation," the information contained in the Daily Beast article lends further credence to the investigative reporting by Emma-Jo Morris and Gabrielle Fonrouge for the New York Post exposing Hunter Biden's sleazy financial dealings with Ukrainian and Chinese oligarchs.

In an exclusive report [6] for the Breitbart New on Friday, October 16, Peter Schweizer and Seamus Bruner allege that newly obtained emails from a former business associate of Hunter Biden's inner-circle reveal that Hunter and his colleagues used their access to the Obama administration to peddle influence to potential Chinese clients and investors -- including securing a private, off-the-books meeting with the former vice president.

The never-before-revealed emails, unconnected to the Hunter Biden emails being released by the New York Post, were provided to Schweizer by Bevan Cooney, a one-time Hunter Biden and Devon Archer business associate. Cooney is currently in prison serving a sentence for his involvement in a 2016 bond fraud investment scheme.

Cooney believes he was the "fall guy" for an investment scheme in which Hunter and business associate Devon Archer avoided responsibility. He reached out to Schweizer after the journalist published a book "Secret Empires" in 2018. Archer was initially spared jail and handed a second trial, however, a federal appeals court reinstated Archer's fraud conviction in the case last week.

The report notes:

"On November 5, 2011, one of Archer's business contacts forwarded him an email teasing an opportunity to gain 'potentially outstanding new clients' by helping to arrange White House meetings for a group of Chinese executives and government officials.

"The group was the China Entrepreneur Club (CEC) and the delegation included Chinese billionaires, Chinese Communist Party loyalists, and at least one 'respected diplomat' from Beijing. Despite its benign name, CEC has been called 'a second foreign ministry' for the People's Republic of China -- a communist government that closely controls most businesses in its country. CEC was established in 2006 by a group of businessmen and Chinese government diplomats.

"CEC's leadership boasts numerous senior members of the Chinese Communist Party, including Wang Zhongyu (vice chairman of the 10th CPPCC National Committee and deputy secretary of the Party group), Ma Weihua (director of multiple Chinese Communist Party offices), and Jiang Xipei (member of the Chinese Communist Party and representative of the 16th National Congress), among others.

"'I know it is political season and people are hesitant but a group like this does not come along every day,' an intermediary named Mohamed A. Khashoggi wrote on behalf of the CEC to an associate of Hunter Biden and Devon Archer. 'A tour of the white house and a meeting with a member of the chief of staff's office and John Kerry would be great.'

"The email boasted of CEC's wealthy membership: CEC's current membership includes 50 preeminent figures such as: Liu Chuanzhi, Chairman of the CEC, Legend Holdings and Lenovo Group; Wu Jinglian, Zhang Weiying, and Zhou Qiren, China's esteemed economists; Wu Jianmin, respected diplomat; Long Yongtu, representative of China's globalization; Wang Shi (Vanke); Ma Weihua (China Merchants Bank); Jack Ma (Alibaba Group); Guo Guangchang (Fosun Group); Wang Jianlin, (Wanda Group); Niu Gensheng (LAONIU Foundation); Li Shufu (Geely); Li Dongsheng (TCL Corporation); Feng Lun (Vantone) and etc.

"The gross income of the CEC members' companies allegedly 'totaled more than RMB 1.5 trillion, together accounting for roughly 4% of China's GDP.' The overture to Hunter Biden's associates described the Chinese CEC members variously as

'industrial elites,' 'highly influential,' and among 'the most important private sector individuals in China today,' dubbed as the China Inc.

"Hunter Biden and Devon Archer apparently delivered for the Chinese Communist Party-connected industrial elites within ten days The Obama-Biden Administration archives reveal that this Chinese delegation did indeed visit the White House on November 14, 2011, and enjoyed high-level access.

"The visitor logs list Jeff Zients, the deputy director of Obama's Office of Management and Budget (OMB), as the host of the CEC delegation. Obama had tasked Zients with restructuring and ultimately consolidating the various export-import agencies under the Commerce Department -- an effort in which the Chinese delegation would have a keen interest.

"Curiously, the Obama-Biden visitor logs do not mention any meeting with Vice President Joe Biden. But the Vice President's off-the-books meeting was revealed by one of the core founders of the CEC. In an obscure document listing the CEC members' biographies, CEC Secretary General Maggie Cheng alleges that she facilitated the CEC delegation meetings in Washington in 2011 and boasts of the Washington establishment figures that CEC met with. The first name she dropped was that of Vice President Joe Biden."

Schweizer suggests that the meeting may have opened the door for Hunter and Devon Archer down the road -- as just two years later they formed the Chinese government-funded Bohai Harvest RST (BHR) investment fund which saw Chinese money pour into it for investments in CEC-linked businesses.

According to the report,

"One of BHR's first major portfolio investments was a ride-sharing company like Uber called Didi Dache -- now called Didi Chuxing Technology Co. That company is closely connected to Liu Chuanzhi, the chairman of the China Entrepreneur Club (CEC) and the founder of Legend Holdings -- the parent company of Lenovo, one of the world's largest computer companies. Liu is a former Chinese Communist Party delegate and was a leader of the 2011 CEC delegation to the White House. His daughter was the President of Didi."

The report adds:

"Liu has long been involved in CCP politics, including serving as a representative to the 9th, 10th, and 11th sessions of the National People's Congress of the PRC and as a representative to the 16th and 17th National Congress of the Chinese Communist Party. Liu was the Vice Chairman of the 8th and 9th Executive Committee of All-China Federation of Industry and Commerce (ACFIC), an organization known to be affiliated with the Chinese United Front."

After reading the names of these high-profile Chinese business and political elites visiting the White House and cultivating personal friendships and commercial relationships in the highest echelons of the Obama-Biden administration, one wonders whether the latter devised trade and economic policies serving the interests of the American masses or took care of financial stakes of global power elites.

With his anti-globalist and protectionist agenda, Trump represents a paradigm shift in the global economic order. Trump withdrawing the United States from multilateral treaties, restructuring trade agreements and initiating a trade war against China are a revolution against globalization and free trade of which China is the new beneficiary with its strong manufacturing base and massive export potential.

Thus, it's only natural for the Chinese government to be "anti-Trump", while supporting his neoliberal Democratic rivals, who favor globalization and free trade, in the upcoming US presidential elections.

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[Oct 20, 2020] Eyes Wide Shut the final scene of the child in the toy store

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Daves Not Here , 8 hours ago

Epic film. I heard Kubrick was involved in that one too.

littlewing , 7 hours ago

Eyes Wide Shut the final scene of the child in the toy store if you are familiar with their satanic imagery its all there.

Woman who seduces Cruise wearing same odd dress as woman in Access Hollywood tape.

I am the only one who noticed this.

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Daves Not Here , 7 hours ago

Not exactly same dress, but close.

Comrade Gezza , 46 minutes ago

Different cut to the dress, no ruffles, colour is not an exact match, but I still pick up what you are laying down.

They are all a bunch of satan worshipping near do wells who deserve the fate they have requested.

May they all rot in the eternal home they have chosen.

BouncingCat , 8 hours ago

I'm glad they're former intelligence officials, but sad they still work in the field. They should be working on the fast food industry.

ineluctable , 7 hours ago

Because Giuliani and his fabricated laptop suddenly appearing two week before the election is SO much more credible.

CallingDrFraudschi , 7 hours ago

Suddenly? Toolbag - it's been around for 11 months and the Federal Bureau of Inactivity has been sitting on it to cover up Biden improprieties.

dead hobo , 9 hours ago

also, the Democrats follow the oldest tactic in the world. Some people ascribe it to Lenin. Others to Alinsky. Nobody really knows who said it first.

Accuse Others Of What You Are Doing Yourself

Secondly,

Deny Deny Deny in a way that puts your accuser on the defensive (if they're stupid and fall for it)

WHATDIFFERENCEDOESITMAKE , 8 hours ago

Saul Alinsky, said it in his "Rules for Radicals' book and taught it all to his student Hillary Clinton who claimed him to be her mentor.

palmereldritch , 8 hours ago

And Alinsky's book was dedicated to Lucifer...

JD Rock , 7 hours ago

I looked it up, and you are correct!

dead hobo , 8 hours ago

Said to be a rumor only. I looked for the phrase and I couldn't find it there.

Also, Lenin was before Alinsky by many years.

Still, it's a great tactic. People are sheep if the right person makes the accusation.

dead hobo , 3 hours ago

Vintage Alinsky or Stalin or actually any psychopath who is clued into their surroundings. Part of the Distraction trick. I'm a Saint, You're the Evil one as proved by this insignificant thing off to the side that the sheep will believe is a big deal.

Dragonlord , 9 hours ago

50 satanic agents doing the devil work by spreading his lies all over the world.

PrintCash , 8 hours ago

This is exactly what the right needed. For my whole life those on the right have revered the military and the CiA and FBI and law enforcement. They could make no mistakes. They were to always be trusted. Always doing great things. Beyond reproach.

No longer. They are just like the rest of bloated, ineffective, politically motivated government. They are run and POPULATED by individuals who have their own motives, which are wholly different than those of the country.

The swamp is deep, wide, diverse, and pervasive. It's all stacked against the individual. It's all stacked against freedom and liberty. The institutions of this country have not a wit in common with the Public Relations they spew, and that the MSM gladly parrots and amplifies. They are in it for themselves, and themselves only.

Now Voyager , 8 hours ago

For my whole life those on the right have had great respect for the Republican party and were willing to accept any crappy candidate they put forward. Imagine if as far back as 1996 they had demanded that hell no we won't accept Bob Dole. Get us a real candidate. If they had done that where would we be today? Probablynot on the edge of this cliff.

PrintCash , 8 hours ago

Bravo

Yukon Cornholius , 6 hours ago

Would that have stopped PNAC and their 9/11 plot?

FUG , 4 hours ago

Not with Shabbos Bush occupying the WH.

media_man , 8 hours ago

If AJ Soprano was Joe Biden's son would he have gotten into Yale Law to? Just how corrupt is the Ivy League admittance process?

Jam Akin , 6 hours ago

"Diversity" Uber Alles...

[Oct 20, 2020] Did Hunter Biden's Laptop Contain Pedophilic Content by Kelen McBreen

Notable quotes:
"... "What we're in possession of contains 1,000, maybe more, photographs that are highly, highly – anywhere from inappropriate to illegal – and have to be possessed by the Chinese government," Giuliani said. ..."
"... If there is "underage" material on the hard drive allegedly belonging to Hunter, the FBI will have to answer some questions as well. ..."
Oct 15, 2020 | www.newswars.com

Originally from: Kelen McBreen | INFOWARS.COM

A tweet published by One America News Network's Chief White House Correspondent Chanel Rion claims the hard drive from Hunter Biden's laptop contained "underage obsessions."

"Just saw for myself a behind the scenes look at the Hunter Biden hard drive: Drugs, underage obsessions, power deals " she wrote "Druggie Hunter makes Anthony Weiner's down under selfie addiction look normal. Biden Crime Family has a lot of apologizing to do. So does Big Tech."

Perhaps also referring to "underage" content, Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani told Steve Bannon on the War Room Pandemic podcast on Wednesday that the hard drive contains "sensitive stuff."

"What we're in possession of contains 1,000, maybe more, photographs that are highly, highly – anywhere from inappropriate to illegal – and have to be possessed by the Chinese government," Giuliani said.

Only a portion of the data in the hard drive has been released so far, so an even bigger October Surprise could be awaiting the Democrat Party.

If there is "underage" material on the hard drive allegedly belonging to Hunter, the FBI will have to answer some questions as well.

According to the computer repairman who obtained the laptop, "The FBI first made a forensic copy of the laptop, then returned a few weeks later with a subpoena and confiscated it."

However, the agency did not know the repairman also made a copy in case anything suspicious took place.

ZeroHedge reports , "After he stopped hearing back from the FBI, Isaac said he contacted several members of Congress, who did not respond, at which point his intermediary reached out to Rudy Giuliani's attorney, Robert Costello."

[Oct 20, 2020] Tucker Carlson- The American Media Will Never Be The Same After Hunter Biden Story - Video - RealClearPolitics

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... Meanwhile, back on ABC, Joe Biden skated on answering any questions of substance about his son or Antifa or BLM. On NBC, Guthrie pushed Donald Trump to condemn QAnon and White supremacy, and he did it dutifully. But it wasn't enough. The point of demanding performative disavowals isn't to get the disavowal, it's to smear the person you're asking to disavow the group by association with the group. ..."
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TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS: If you flipped the channel during our show Thursday night, you may have seen the president and his challenger making their respective cases to voters. But President Trump and Joe Biden weren't debating each other. That would have been too risky. There's a massive public health crisis underway, you may have heard.

So to avoid what doomsday hobbyists on Twitter like to call a "superspreader event," Trump and Biden held separate indoor town halls surrounded by people. They talked to partisan moderators instead of each other. That might seem like a loss to the country three weeks before a presidential election. But unfortunately, the science on this question is clear: Nothing could be more dangerous to America than a televised in-person debate between Joe Biden and Donald Trump.

So the so-called debate commission made certain a debate couldn't happen. Who benefitted from that decision? Well, not voters. America has held regularly scheduled presidential debates for decades and we have them for a reason. The more information voters can get directly from the candidates rather than the media, the better our democracy functions, not that anyone's interested in democracy anymore.

Joe Biden doesn't care either way. He just didn't want to talk about Burisma. That's the scandal that vividly illustrates how, as vice president, Biden subverted this country's foreign policy in order to enrich his own family. The good news for Biden Thursday night was that he didn't have to talk about it. No one from ABC News asked him about that scandal for the entire 90 minutes.

As we've been telling you this week, the New York Post and a few other news outlets, including "Tucker Carlson Tonight," have published e-mails taken from Hunter Biden's personal laptop. They show that Hunter Biden was paid by foreign actors to change American foreign policy using access to his father, then the vice president. This is a big story. It is also a real story.

Friday afternoon, we received nonpublic information that proves conclusively this was indeed Hunter Biden's laptop. There are materials on the hard drive of that computer that no one but Hunter Biden could have known about or have replicated. This is not a Russian hoax. Again, we're saying this definitively. We're not speculating. The laptop in question is real. It belonged to Hunter Biden. So there is no excuse for not asking about it.

But they didn't ask about it. It was a cover-up in real time. No matter what happens in the election next month, the American media will never be the same after this. It cannot continue this way. It is too dishonest.

Nevertheless, we did learn a few things Thursday night. (It's hard not to learn when you watch Joe Biden try to speak for 90 minutes.) At one point, an activist told Joe Biden that she has an eight-year-old transgender daughter. She asked Joe Biden what he thought about that. Here's how he responded:

BIDEN: The idea that an eight-year-old child or a 10-year-old child decides, 'You know, I've decided I want to be transgender. That's what I think. I'd like to be a -- make my life a lot easier.' There should be zero discrimination. What's happening is too many transgender women of color are being murdered. They're being murdered. I mean, I think it's up to now 17, don't hold me to that number.

So if an eight-year-old biological boy decides one day that he's really a girl, that's final and you'd have to be a bigot to pause and say, "Wait a minute, you're eight years old, you're a small child. Maybe let's think about this for a minute." That's what a normal person who has kids would say. People with kids know that children grow and change. They change their minds about a lot of things, including themselves. That's the reality of it.

But if you're a crazed ideologue, you don't care about reality. So you would tell the rest of us that an eight-year-old is entitled to hormone therapy on demand and permanent, life-altering surgery. That's what Biden is telling us.

It doesn't matter how fashionable talk like this is right now, and it is very fashionable, it is crazy and it's destructive and it's having a profound effect. No one wants to say it, but it's true. We know that between 2016 and 2017, the number of gender surgeries for biological females in this country quadrupled. We also know that many people who get those surgeries regret them later, deeply regret them. We'd have a lot more data on that, but universities are actively punishing researchers who follow that line of inquiry. So much for science.

In the end, mania like this will end. The left is at war with nature. Inevitably, they will lose that war, because nature always prevails. But in the meantime, many children are being hurt irreparably. Biden doesn't care. It's the new thing, and so he's for it. In fact, Biden is now busy rewriting his entire life story to pretend that he has been woke for 60 years. Thursday night, he told us he became a gay rights supporter during the Kennedy administration, sometime around 1962, when he and his father saw two gay men kissing.

When asked about police brutality, the former vice president speculated that maybe people like George Floyd would be alive today if the police had just shot him in the leg a few times.

BIDEN: There's a lot of things we've learned and it takes time. But we can do this. You can ban chokeholds ... But beyond that, you have to teach people how to deescalate circumstances, deescalate. So instead of anybody coming at you and the first thing you do shoot to kill, shoot him in the leg.

How much would you have to know about firearms or human biology to wonder if maybe there could be some unintended consequences there? People do have arteries in their legs, after all, and sometimes bullets do miss their targets. So why did no one point out how demented Biden's answer was?

Well, we have some clarity on the question of why no one pointed it out. It turns out George Stephanopoulos, the moderator of last night's ABC town hall, was not the only political operative in the room. One supposedly uncommitted voter was, in fact, a former Obama administration speechwriter called Nathan Osburn. Osburn repeated Biden campaign talking points to the letter, at one point referring to court-packing as a safeguard "that'll help ensure more long-term balance and stability" on the Supreme Court.

BIDEN: I have not been a fan of court-packing because I think it just generates, what will happen ... Whoever wins, it just keeps moving in a way that is inconsistent with what is going to be manageable.

STEPHANOPOULOS: So you're still not a fan?

BIDEN: Well, I'm not a fan ... It depends on how this turns out, not how he wins, but how it's handled, how it's handled. But there's a number of things that are going to be coming up and there's going to be a lot of discussion about other alternatives as well.

So we did learn something new last night: Joe Biden isn't a fan of court-packing. Court-packing has had a few off years, and Joe Biden started to lose his faith in it, even sold his "Court-Packing" jersey. But at the end of the day, Joe Biden is still open to court-packing and can get back on the court-packing bandwagon depending on how things are "handled." Got it?

Biden was allowed to answer non-questions like this because he was surrounded by sycophants and former employees of his party. Over at NBC, by contrast, the sitting president didn't have that luxury, to put it mildly. (By the way, it's not good for you to be sucked up to too much. It's good to get smacked around a little bit. It makes you sharper.)

During the president's one-hour event, moderator Savannah Guthrie asked him dozens more questions than the voters in the room got to ask. And when Trump began speaking, Guthrie interrupted him over and over again. Joe Biden wasn't there, so the moderator played stand-in for Joe Biden.

The good news about all of this is it's so bad and so transparent that it can't continue. All their stupid little morning shows and their dumb Sunday shows and their even dumber cable shows -- all of that's going away when the smoke clears from this election. There will be a massive realignment in the media no matter who wins, because they've showed who they are and it's so unappealing, so far from journalism, that it can't continue.

Meanwhile, back on ABC, Joe Biden skated on answering any questions of substance about his son or Antifa or BLM. On NBC, Guthrie pushed Donald Trump to condemn QAnon and White supremacy, and he did it dutifully. But it wasn't enough. The point of demanding performative disavowals isn't to get the disavowal, it's to smear the person you're asking to disavow the group by association with the group.

GUTHRIE: You were asked point-blank to denounce White supremacy [at the first debate]. In the moment, you didn't ... A couple of days later on a different show, you denounce White supremacy --

TRUMP: You always do this. You've done this line -- I denounce White supremacy, OK?

GUTHRIE: You did two days later.

TRUMP: I've denounced White supremacy for years. But you always do, you always start off with the question. You didn't ask Joe Biden whether or not he denounces Antifa ... Are you listening? I denounce White supremacy. What's your next question?

NBC was under a lot of pressure from Democrats to make Thursday night's town hall look like this, and just like Facebook and Twitter delivered earlier this week, NBC delivered, too.

whatmeworry? 1 day ago The only difference between the "news" media today, and, say a decade ago, is that they no longer try to conceal their bias. They've dropped the cloak of objectivity and come out as democrat activists. It's sort of refreshing. We no longer have to waste time and energy arguing about the fairness of the media. Scotty2Hotty 1 1 day ago Liberals are more an enemy of the free press than Donald Trump is--we know that for sure after the NY Post incident. For all the times Trump has trashed the press, he has never shut them down (he can't), but the liberals at Facebook and Twitter did just that to the New York Post, because they didn't like a story of theirs. The story should never have been banned anywhere. In a free society, bogus stories are debunked by other free speech outlets and press agencies. They are not banned. Trump is not a friend of the press, but liberals are a worse enemy than he is, to press freedom. Leftists have a strong totalitarian streak, and they continually work to create environments where only one viewpoint is permitted, whether in academia, television, the press or elsewhere. Liberals believe more in shutting down dissent than in discrediting it, through argument. Gadsden_1968 2.0 1 day ago 90% of the media is now formally known as the Democratic Party propaganda ministry. Arm yourselves, it appears the majority of people are 100% controlled by the Democratic Party's propaganda ministry. If Biden wins, his propaganda ministry will make Pravda look like a high school news paper. Architech 1 day ago Why is the crackhead Hunter Biden a taboo subject? Nobody mentions that Hunter is The Train Wreck of the Century. Even on right wing news they don't tell you what a drop dead irresponsible loser low life that Hunter is. He sleeps with his dying brothers wife while he is still alive. Red flag. Plenty of other girls, but no, your sister in law. But that is nothing. Nada. Kicked out of the Navy for drug use. Banged 1000 strippers in Wash DC, knocked one up, denied the child, was proven he was the dad, denied child support and was forced to pay. Nice. Dead beat dad deluxe. There are about 100 things like that. Too long to list. And nobody mentions is. They act like Hunter is just another guy.... Calling out the Loser of the Century is not off limits in my book. Calling out stupidity, no self control, no personal responsibility, corruption, unethical behavior, outright crimes....not off limits. It's actually illegal to be a crack addict did you know that?

[Oct 20, 2020] Glenn Greenwald- Media and Intel Community Working Together To Manipulate The American People - Video - RealClearPolitics

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... "The whole point of the Intelligence Community since the end of World War II was that whatever propaganda the CIA produces, whatever disinformation campaigns they engaged were never supposed to be directed domestically," he said. "That was the point of the NSA, the CIA, and all those intelligence communities." ..."
"... "What we have seen since 2016 going back to the 2016 campaign is incessant involvement in U.S. domestic politics. Working with journalists to disseminate purely for partisan ends. If you want to talk about things like violating norms, and dangers to democracy, what's more dangerous than allowing the CIA constantly to be manipulating our politics by making cover for the Biden campaign by claiming anonymously that the Russians are behind the story and therefore you disregard it. Even if the Russians why does that alleviate the responsibility of journalists to evaluate the emails and to examine whether or not Joe Biden actually engaged in misconduct?" Greenwald asked. ..."
Oct 20, 2020 | www.realclearpolitics.com

Glenn Greenwald: Media and Intel Community Working Together To Manipulate The American People Posted By Ian Schwartz
On Date October 19, 2020

Glenn Greenwald: Media and Intel Community Working Together To Manipulate The American People

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Glenn Greenwald appeared on Tucker Carlson's FOX News show Monday night to criticize the media for its lack of response to the Hunter Biden laptop story. Greenwald also criticized intel community activity in domestic elections and posed the question that even if Russians are behind the story it just requires journalistic investigation in case Biden is compromised.

"Adam Schiff is seriously the most pathological liar in all of American politics that I've seen in all of my time covering politics and journalism," Greenwald said on 'Tucker Carlson Tonight.' "He just fabricates accusations at the drop of the hat at the other people change underwear. He's simply lying when he just asserts over and over that the Russians or the Kremlin are behind the story. He has no idea whether or not that is true. There is no evidence to support it."

"And what makes it so much worse is that the reason that the Bidens aren't answering basic questions about the story," Greenwald said. "Basic questions like did Hunter Biden drop that laptop off of the repair shop? Are the emails authentic? Do you know denied that they are. Do you claim that any have been altered or are any of them fabricated? Did you in fact meet with Barisma executives? The reason they don't answer the questions is because the media has signaled that they don't have to. That journalists will be attacked and vilified simply for asking."

"The whole point of the Intelligence Community since the end of World War II was that whatever propaganda the CIA produces, whatever disinformation campaigns they engaged were never supposed to be directed domestically," he said. "That was the point of the NSA, the CIA, and all those intelligence communities."

"What we have seen since 2016 going back to the 2016 campaign is incessant involvement in U.S. domestic politics. Working with journalists to disseminate purely for partisan ends. If you want to talk about things like violating norms, and dangers to democracy, what's more dangerous than allowing the CIA constantly to be manipulating our politics by making cover for the Biden campaign by claiming anonymously that the Russians are behind the story and therefore you disregard it. Even if the Russians why does that alleviate the responsibility of journalists to evaluate the emails and to examine whether or not Joe Biden actually engaged in misconduct?" Greenwald asked.

"The much bigger point is the way that the information is being disseminated," he said. "It is a union of journalists who have decided that their only goal is to defend Joe Biden and election him president of the United States working with the FBI, CIA, NSA not to manipulate our adversaries or foreign governments, but to manipulate the American people for their own ends. It's been going on for four straight years now and there's no sign of it stopping anytime soon." Related Videos

[Oct 20, 2020] Feds Confirm Biden Emails Are -Authentic-; '50 Former Intel Officials' Wrong On Russian Disinfo -

Oct 20, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Update (1930ET) : In yet another death blow to Adam Schiff and the '50 former senior intelligence officers' "Russia, Russia, Russia" claims, the FBI and DOJ have told a Fox News producer that they do not believe that Hunter Biden's laptop and its contents are part of a Russian disinformation campaign , confirming that the 'current' intelligence community agrees with DNI Ratcliffe's comments yesterday.

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Additionally, a Federal Law Enforcement Official also confirmed to Fox News' Martha MacCallum that the emails are "authentic".

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All of which leaves on big gaping unanswered question (that we all know the answer to)...

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We look forward to the reporting from other mainstream media news agencies now that federal law enforcement has confirmed this is not a 'hoax' and we assume that the NYPost will once again be allowed to tweet since this is now as 'factual' as anything thrown at Trump for the last five years.



y_arrow Fizzy Head , 9 hours ago

Excuse me, but Who cares what these "former" senior officials think? I want names and party affiliations, that will tell the tale.

and furthermore, if these former guys can muster up a letter why can't the real officials muster up something, anything? They've known for months!! This is growing more ridiculous as time goes by.

Han Cholo , 8 hours ago

"former" -- Meaning they are mostly looking from the outside in and have no clue.

[Oct 20, 2020] Hunter Biden Is Not The Problem, The Problem Is His Dad -

Oct 20, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

American Pravda John McCain, Jeffrey Epstein, and Pizzagate, by Ron Unz - The Unz Review

I don't use Social Media myself, but near the end of the 2016 presidential campaign, I gradually began seeing more and more Trump supporters referring to something called "Pizzagate," a burgeoning sexual scandal that they claimed would bring down Hillary Clinton and many of the top leaders of her party, with the chatter actually increasing after Trump was elected. As near as I could tell, the whole bizarre theory had grown up on the far-right fringe of the Internet, with the utterly fantastical plot having something to do with stolen secret emails, DC pizza parlors, and a ring of pedophiles situated near the top of the Democratic Party. But given all the other strange and unlikely things I'd gradually discovered about our history, it didn't seem like something I could necessarily dismiss out of hand.

At the beginning of December, a right-wing blogger produced a lengthy exposition of the Pizzagate charges, which finally gave me some understanding of what was actually under discussion, and I soon made arrangements to republish his article. It quickly attracted a great deal of interest, and some websites pointed to it as the best single introduction to the scandal for a general audience.

Pizzagate

Aedon Cassiel • December 2, 2016 • 3,100 Words

A couple of weeks later, I republished an additional article by the same writer, describing a long list of previous pedophilia scandals that had occurred in elite American and European political circles. Although many of these seemed to be solidly documented, nearly all of them had received minimal coverage by our mainstream media outlets. And if such political pedophile rings had existed in the relatively recent past, was it so totally implausible that there might be another one simmering beneath the surface of today's Washington DC?

Precedents for Pizzagate

Aedon Cassiel • December 23, 2016 • 6,200 Words

Those interested in the details of the Pizzagate Hypothesis are advised to read these articles, especially the first one, but I might as well provide a brief summary.

John Podesta had been a longtime fixture in DC political circles, becoming chief of staff to President Bill Clinton in 1998, and afterward remaining one of the most powerful figures in the Democratic Party establishment. While serving as as chairman of Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign, his apparent carelessness with the password security of his Gmail account allowed it to easily be hacked, and tens of thousands of his personal emails were soon published on WikiLeaks. A swarm of young anti-Clinton activists began scouring this treasure-trove of semi-confidential information, seeking evidence of mundane bribery and corruption, but instead they came across some quite odd exchanges, seemingly written in coded language.

Now use of coded language in a supposedly secure private email account raises all sorts of natural suspicions regarding what might have been under discussion, with the most likely possibilities being illegal drugs or sex. But most of the references didn't seem to fit the former category, and in our remarkably libertine era, in which political candidates compete for the right to be Grand Marshal at an annual Gay Pride Parade, one of the few sexual activities still discussed only in whispers would seem to be pedophilia, with some of the very strange remarks possibly hinting at this.

The researchers also soon discovered that his brother Tony Podesta, one of the wealthiest and most successful lobbyists in DC, had extremely odd taste in art. Major items of his very extensive personal collection seemed to represent tortured or murdered bodies, and one of his favorite artists was best known for paintings depicting young children being held captive, lying dead, or suffering under severe distress. Such peculiar artwork obviously isn't illegal, but it might naturally arouse some suspicions. And oddly enough, arch-Democrat Podesta had long been a close personal friend of former Republican Speaker and convicted child-molester Dennis Hastert, welcoming him back into DC society after his release from prison.

Furthermore, some of the rather suspiciously-worded Podesta emails referred to events held at a local DC pizza parlor, greatly favored by the Democratic Party elite, whose owner was the gay former boyfriend of David Brock, a leading Democratic activist. The public Instagram account of that pizza-entrepreneur apparently contained numerous images of young children, sometimes tied or bound, with those images frequently labeled by hashtags using the traditional gay slang for underage sexual targets. Some photos showed the fellow wearing a tee-shirt bearing the statement "I Love Children" in French, and by a very odd coincidence, his possibly assumed name was phonetically identical to that very same French phrase, thus proclaiming to the world that he was "a lover of children." Closely connected Instagram accounts also included pictures of young children, sometimes shown amid piles of high-value currency, with queries about how much those particular children might be worth. None of this seemed illegal, but surely any reasonable person would regard the material as extremely suspicious.

DC is sometimes described as "Powertown," being the seat of the individuals who make America's laws and govern our society, with local political journalists being closely attuned to the relative status of such individuals. And oddly enough, GQ Magazine had ranked that gay pizza parlor owner with a strange focus on young children as being one of the 50 most powerful people in our national capital, placing him far ahead of many Cabinet members, Senators, Congressional Chairmen, Supreme Court justices, and top lobbyists. Was his pizza really that delicious?

These few paragraphs provide merely a sliver of the large quantity of highly-suspicious material surrounding various powerful figures at the apex of the DC political world. A vast cloud of billowing smoke is certainly no proof of any fire, but only a fool would completely ignore it without attempting further investigation.

I usually regard videos as a poor means of imparting serious information, far less effective and meaningful than the simple printed word. But the overwhelming bulk of the evidence supporting the Pizzagate Hypothesis consists of visual images and screen shots, and these are naturally suited to a video presentation.

Some of the best summaries of the Pizzagate case were produced by a young British YouTuber named Tara McCarthy, whose work was published under the name of "Reality Calls," and her videos were viewed hundreds of thousands of times. Although her channel was eventually banned and her videos purged, copies were later reloaded to other accounts, both on YouTube and BitChute. Some of the evidence she presents seemed rather innocuous or speculative to me and other elements were probably based upon her unfamiliarity with American society and culture. But a great deal of extremely suspicious material remains, and I would suggest that people watch the videos and decide for themselves.

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Around the same time that I first became familiar with the details of the Pizzagate controversy, the topic also started reaching the pages of my morning newspapers, but in an rather strange manner. Political stories began giving a sentence or two to the "Pizzagate hoax," describing it as a ridiculous right-wing "conspiracy theory" but excluding all relevant details. I had an eery feeling that some unseen hand had suddenly flipped a switch causing the entire mainstream media to begin displaying identical signs declaring "Pizzagate Is False -- Nothing To See There!" in brightly flashing neon. I couldn't recall any previous example of such a strange media reaction to some obscure Internet controversy.

Articles in the Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times also suddenly appeared denouncing the entirety of the alternative media -- Left, Right, and Libertarian -- as "fake news" websites promoting Russian propaganda , while urging that their content be blocked by all patriotic Internet giants such as Facebook, Twitter, and Google. Prior to that moment, I'd never even heard the term "fake news" but suddenly it was ubiquitous across the media, once again almost as if some unseen hand had suddenly flipped a switch.

I naturally began to wonder whether the timing of these two strange developments was entirely coincidental. Perhaps Pizzagate was indeed true and struck so deeply at the core of our hugely corrupted political system that the media efforts to suppress it were approaching the point of hysteria.

Not long afterward, Tara McCarthy's detailed Pizzagate videos were purged from YouTube. This was among the very first instances of video content being banned despite fully conforming to all existing YouTube guidelines, another deeply suspicious development.

I also noticed that mere mention of Pizzagate had become politically lethal. Donald Trump had selected Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, as his National Security Advisor, and Flynn's son served as the latter's chief of staff. The younger Flynn happened to Tweet out a couple of links to Pizzagate stories, pointing out that the accusations hadn't yet been actually investigated let alone disproven, and very soon afterward, he was purged from the Trump transition team, foreshadowing his father's fall a few weeks later. It seemed astonishing to me that a few simple Tweets about an Internet controversy could have such huge real-life impact near the top of our government.

The media continued its uniform drumbeat of "Pizzagate Has Been Disproven!" but we were never told how or by whom, and I was not the only individual to notice the hollowness of such denunciations. An award-winning investigative journalist named Ben Swann at a CBS station in Atlanta broadcast a short television segment summarizing the Pizzagate controversy and noting that contrary to widespread media claims, Pizzagate had neither been investigated nor debunked. Swann was almost immediately purged by CBS but a copy of his television segment remains available for viewing on the Internet.

There is an old wartime proverb that enemy flak is always heaviest over the most important target, and the remarkably ferocious wave of attacks and censorship against anyone broaching the subject of Pizzagate seems to raise obvious dark suspicions. Indeed, the simultaneous waves of attacks against all alternative media outlets as "Russian propaganda outlets" laid the basis for the continuing regime of Social Media censorship that has become a central aspect of today's world.

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Pizzagate may or may not turn out to be true, but the ongoing Internet crackdown has similarly engulfed topics of a somewhat similar nature but with vastly stronger documentation. Although I don't use Twitter myself, I encountered the obvious implications of this new censorship policy following McCain's death last August.

The senator had died on a Saturday afternoon, and readership of Sydney Schanberg's long 2008 expose quickly exploded, with numerous individuals Tweeting out the story and a large fraction of our incoming traffic therefore coming from Twitter.

This continued until the following morning, at which point the huge flood of Tweets continued to grow, but all incoming Twitter traffic suddenly and permanently vanished, presumably because "shadow banning" had rendered those Tweets invisible.

My own article on McCain's very doubtful war record simultaneously suffered the same fate, as did numerous other articles of a controversial nature that we published later that same week.

[Oct 20, 2020] Hunter Biden was paid $3.5 million from the Mayor of Moscow's wife

Oct 20, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

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JGResearch , 21 minutes ago

Add this to the list:

BREAKING NEWS: Here's Why the Mayor of Moscow's Wife Paid Hunter Biden $3.5 Million And Likely More!

According to US treasury documents provided by the Senate Finance and Homeland Security Committees, Hunter Biden was paid $3.5 million from the Mayor of Moscow's wife.

The report by the Senate Finance and Homeland Security Committees was released last month and it was devastating.

Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Yelena Baturina, the wife of the former mayor of Moscow.

Until today we didn't know why Yelena Baturina paid Hunter millions of dollars.

According to emails and documents, Yelena Baturina laundered funds into the US in avoidance of sanctions, Devon Archer claimed the firm received $200 million.

Emails provided by Matthew Tyrmand come directly from Hunter associate's Gmail account. They are still hosted on Google's servers. Bevan Cooney flipped and gave his login info.

Sources:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/breaking-news-mayor-moscows-wife-paid-hunter-biden-3-5-million-likely/

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BAMCIS , 37 minutes ago

The sky is blue, water is wet and women have secrets.

Might as well add: " Politicians are dishonest." That is not an "October Surprise". More like ....duuuuuh.

Not sure where the moral contest lies between Biden and Trump. Perhaps that Trump wears his corruption on his sleeve?

truth or go home , 26 minutes ago

Anyone who was paying attention knew all about this at least 5 years ago. It's not an October surprise.

Biden has been successfully playing the political game for almost 50 years. He should know better than to put his hand in the cookie jar for his son over and over, and yet he did it. It shows you all you need to know about his character.

But you already knew that too. The fact that he is even in the position to run for President at his age and with clear mental decline beginning to show means he is fully beholden to the deep state. He is and will be a total puppet of the machine.

The election is down to this: Do you want a nice guy who is a sellout and a puppet and will do and say whatever the money masters want him to? or do you want a complete ******* who tells the truth, but gets shut down at every turn?

HarryKallahan , 4 minutes ago

Looks like Hunter's job has always been being the 'bag man'.

Collecting payoff money for daddy Joe Biden.

That's how Joe has lived in that big mansion on a senator's salary.

captain-nemo , 16 minutes ago

Breaking news

Holy ****. The Biden's received 3.5 million dollars in a wire transfer from Yelena Baturina, the wife of the former mayor of Moscow , to launder Russian funds into the US in order to avoid US sanctions. The fund that was laundered this way was 200 million dollars, and for this job, the Biden's was compensated with the net sum of 3.5 million dollars. If this is not a crime , what is?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/breaking-news-mayor-moscows-wife-paid-hunter-biden-3-5-million-likely/

Atlas_Shrugged , 8 minutes ago

That was cheap. The fees should have atleast been 10%

[Oct 20, 2020] Sperry Exposes The Complete History Of Hunter Biden's Crony-Connected Jobs -

Oct 20, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Sperry Exposes The Complete History Of Hunter Biden's Crony-Connected Jobs

by Tyler Durden Mon, 10/19/2020 - 23:00 Twitter Facebook Reddit Email Print

Authored by Paul Sperry via RealClearInvestigations.com,

Hunter Biden profited from his father's political connections long before he struck questionable deals in countries where Joe Biden was undertaking diplomatic missions as vice president. In fact, virtually all the jobs listed on his resume going back to his first position out of college, which paid a six-figure salary, came courtesy of the former six-term senator's donors, lobbyists and allies , a RealClearInvestigations examination has found.

Hunter Biden: Through a lawyer, he maintained he and his father dutifully avoided "conflicts of interest." Democratic National Convention/YouTube

One document reviewed by RCI reveals that a Biden associate admitted "finding employment" for Hunter Biden specifically as a special favor to his father, then a Senate leader running for president. He secured a $1.2 million gig on Wall Street for his young son, even though it was understood he had no experience in high finance. Many of his generous patrons, in turn, ended up with legislation and policies favorable to their businesses or investments, an RCI review of lobbying records and legislative actions taken by the elder Biden confirms.

That the 50-year-old Hunter has been trading on his Democratic father's political influence his entire adult life raises legal questions about possible influence-peddling, government watchdogs and former federal investigators say. In addition, the more than two-decades-long pattern of nepotism casts fresh doubt on Joe Biden's recent statements that he "never discussed" business with his son, and that his activities posed "no conflicts of interest."

No fewer than three committees in the Republican-controlled Senate have opened probes into potential Biden family conflicts. Investigators are also poring over Treasury Department records that have flagged suspicious activities involving Hunter's banking transactions and business deals that may be connected to his father's political influence.

U.S. ethics rules require all government officials to avoid even the appearance of a conflict of interest in taking official actions. The Bidens have denied any wrongdoing.

While most of the attention on Hunter has focused on his dealings in Ukraine and China when his father was in the White House, he also cashed in on cushy jobs and sweetheart deals throughout his dad's long Senate career, records reveal.

"Hunter Biden's Ukraine-China connections are just one element of the Biden corruption story," said Tom Fitton, president of the Washington-based watchdog group Judicial Watch, who contends Biden used both the Office of the Vice President and the Senate to advance his son's personal interests.

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In each case, Hunter Biden appeared under-qualified for the positions he obtained. All the while, he was a chronic abuser of alcohol and drugs, including crack cocaine, and has cycled in and out of no fewer than six drug-rehab treatment programs, according to published reports. He's also been the subject of at least two drug-related investigations by police, one in 1988 and another in 2016, according to federal records and reports. A third drug investigation resulted in his discharge from the U.S. Navy Reserve in 2014.

This comprehensive account of Hunter Biden's "unique career trajectory," as one former family friend gently put it, was pieced together through interviews with more than a dozen people, several of whom insisted on anonymity to describe private conversations, and after an in-depth examination of public records, including Securities and Exchange Commission filings, court papers, campaign filings, federal lobbying disclosures, and congressional documents.

Hunter Biden's resume begins 24 years ago. Here is a rundown of the plum positions he has managed to land since 1996, thanks to his politically connected father and his boosters:

1996-1998: MBNA Corp.

Fresh out of college, credit-card giant MBNA put him on its payroll as "senior vice president" earning more than $100,000 a year, plus an undisclosed signing bonus. Delaware-based MBNA at the time was Biden's largest donor and lobbying the Delaware senator for bankruptcy reforms that would make it harder for consumers to declare bankruptcy and write off credit-card debt.

When Tom Brokaw asked Biden in 2008 about whether his son's job was a conflict of interest, he snapped "Absolutely not." It was an answer he'd repeat many times in the future. NBC News/YouTube

Besides a job for Hunter, bank executives and employees gave generously to Joe Biden's campaigns – $214,000 total, federal records show – and one top executive even bought Biden's Wilmington, Del., home for more than $200,000 above the market value, real estate records show. The exec paid top dollar – $1.2 million – for the old house even though it lacked central air conditioning. MBNA also flew Biden and his wife to events and covered their travel costs, disclosure forms show.

Sen. Biden eventually came through for MBNA by sponsoring and whipping votes in the Senate to pass the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention Act.

When NBC News anchor Tom Brokaw asked Biden during the 2008 presidential campaign whether it was wrong "for someone like you in the middle of all this to have your son collecting money from this big credit-card company while you were on the (Senate) floor protecting its interests," Biden gave an answer he would repeat many times in the future: "Absolutely not," he snapped, arguing it was completely appropriate and that Hunter deserved the position and generous salary because he graduated from Yale.

1998-2001: Commerce Department

Hunter also capitalized on the family name in 1998 when he joined President Clinton's agency. In spite of having no experience in the dot-com industry, he was appointed "executive director of e-commerce policy coordination," pulling down another six-figure salary plus bonuses.

He landed the job after his father's longtime campaign manager and lawyer William Oldaker called then-Commerce Secretary William Daley, who'd also worked on Biden's campaigns, and put in a good word for his son, according to public records.

2001-2009: Oldaker, Biden & Belair

After Republican President George W. Bush took over the Commerce Department, Hunter left the government and joined Oldaker to open a lobbying shop in Washington, just blocks from Congress, where he gained access to exclusive business and political deals.

Robert Skomorucha: Hunter had "a very strong last name that really paid off in terms of our lobbying efforts." LinkedIn

Federal disclosure forms show Hunter Biden and his firm billed millions of dollars while lobbying on behalf of a host of hospitals and private colleges and universities, among other clients. In a 2006 disclosure statement submitted to the Senate, Hunter said his clients were "seeking federal appropriations dollars."

Hunter won the contract to represent St. Joseph's University from an old Biden family friend who worked in government relations at the university and proposed he solicit earmarks for one of its programs in Philadelphia. The friend, Robert Skomorucha, remarked in a press interview that Hunter had "a very strong last name that really paid off in terms of our lobbying efforts."

These clients, like MBNA, also favored bankruptcy reforms to make it harder for patients and students to discharge debt in bankruptcy filings. At the same time Hunter was operating as a Beltway lobbyist, he was receiving "consulting payments" from his old employer MBNA, which was still courting his father over the bankruptcy reforms.

In 2007, Hunter also dined with a private prison lobbyist who had business before a Senate Judiciary subcommittee Joe Biden chaired, according to published reports. Senate rules bar members or their staff from having contact with family members who are lobbyists seeking to influence legislation.

William Oldaker: Did not just make Hunter a rich lobbyist, but secured him a $1 million loan that went sour. ldaker & Willison

Hunter's lawyer-lobbyist firm was embroiled in a conflict-of-interest controversy in 2006 when it was criticized for representing a lobbyist under investigation by the House ethics committee. The lobbyist was still taking payments from his old K street firm while working as a top aide on the House Appropriations Committee. Hunter at the time was lobbying that same committee for earmarks for his clients.

William Oldaker did not just make Hunter a rich lobbyist. Oldaker also secured a $1 million loan for him through a bank he co-founded, WashingtonFirst, that Hunter sought for an investment scheme, which later went sour.

Joe Biden deposited hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign and political action committee donations at WashingtonFirst, while funneling hundreds of thousands in campaign and PAC expenditures to Oldaker, Biden & Belair. Joe Biden's payments to Hunter's lobbying firm, including more than $143,000 in 2007 alone, were listed as "legal services" in Federal Election Commission filings.

Oldaker did not respond to a request for comment left at his office.

National Group: Hunter won earmarks for the University of Delaware and other Biden constituents. thenationalgroup.net

2003-2005: National Group LLP

While serving as a partner at Oldaker, Biden & Belair, Hunter also registered as a lobbyist for National Group, a lobbying-only subsidiary which shared offices with OB&B and specialized in targeted spending items inserted into legislation known as "earmarks."

Hunter represented his father's alma mater, the University of Delaware, and other Biden constituents and submitted requests to Biden's office for earmarks benefiting these clients in appropriations bills.

2006-2007: Paradigm Companies LLC

In 2005, when Joe Biden was thinking about making another run at the White House, after a 1987 bid that ended in plagiarism charges, his lobbyist son was looking for a new line of work too.

In early 2006, Wall Street executive and Biden family friend Anthony Lotito said, Biden's younger brother, Jim, phoned him on behalf of the senator. He said Biden wanted his youngest son – whom he still called "Honey" – to get out of the lobbying business to avoid allegations of conflicts of interest that might dog Biden's presidential bid.

"Biden was concerned with the impact that Hunter's lobbying activities might have on his expected campaign [and asked his brother to] seek Lotito's assistance in finding employment for Hunter in a non-lobbying capacity," according to a January 2007 complaint that Lotito filed in New York state court against Hunter over alleged breach of contract in a related venture. (Jim and Hunter Biden denied such a phone call took place as described.)

Lotito told the court he agreed to help Hunter as a favor to the senator, who had served on the powerful banking committee. He figured "the financial community might be a good starting place in which to seek out employment on Hunter's behalf," the court documents state. But he quickly found that Wall Street had "no interest" in hiring Biden.

So the Bidens hatched a scheme to buy a hedge fund, "whereby Hunter would then assume a senior executive position with the company." And Lotito helped broker the deal. Despite having no Wall Street experience, Biden was appointed interim CEO and president of the Paradigm investment fund and given a $1.2 million salary, according to SEC filings . Lotito joined the enterprise as a partner, and agreed to shepherd Hunter, still in his mid-thirties, through his new role in high-finance.

"Given Hunter Biden's inexperience in the securities industry," the complaint states, it was agreed that Lotito would maintain an office at the new holding company's New York headquarters "in order to assist Biden in discharging his duties as president."

After the venture failed, Lotito sued the Bidens for fraud. The Bidens countersued and the two parties settled in 2008.

2006-2009: Amtrak

During this same period, Hunter was appointed vice chairman of the taxpayer-subsidized rail line, thanks to the sponsorship of powerful Democratic Sen. Harry Reid, a political ally of his father.

Joe Biden: The "senator from Amtrak" had a son from Amtrak too. Michael Perez/AP for Siemens

In a 2006 statement submitted to the Senate during his confirmation, Hunter asserted that he was qualified for the Amtrak board because "as a frequent commuter and Amtrak customer for over 30 years, I have literally logged thousands of miles on Amtrak."

Amtrak has been a major supporter of Joe Biden, donating to both his Senate and presidential campaigns and even naming a train station after him in Wilmington. In return, Biden has supported taxpayer subsidies for the government railroad throughout his political career.

In his testimony, Hunter denied his Amtrak appointment pushed conflict-of-interest boundaries.

2009- : Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC

Hunter co-founded the investment firm five months after his father moved into the White House and incorporated it in his father's home state of Delaware, which has strict corporate secrecy rules.

At the time, Obama had tapped Vice President Biden to oversee the recovery from the financial crisis. Three weeks after Rosemont was incorporated, Hunter and his partners set up a subsidiary called Rosemont TALF and got $24 million in loans from the federal program known as the Term Asset-Backed Securities Loan Facility. TALF was designed to help bail out banks and auto lenders hit by the crisis.

Within months, Rosemont had secured a total of $130 million from the program. Some of the government cash was then funneled into an investment fund incorporated in the Cayman Islands, SEC records show. Such offshore accounts are commonly used to evade taxes.

The move raised ethical flags with government watchdogs who suspected the bailout cash was used to benefit a well-connected insider.

Other records reveal that another subsidiary created years later – Rosemont Realty – touted to its investors that board adviser Hunter was politically connected. It highlighted in a company prospectus that he was the "son of Vice President Biden."

2009-2012: Eudora Global

On his resume, Hunter also lists himself as "founder" of yet another investment firm. But Eudora's articles of incorporation show it was actually set up by a major Biden donor, Jeffrey Cooper, who put Hunter on his board after his father became vice president.

A self-described "friend of the Biden family," Cooper also happened to run one of the largest asbestos-litigation firms in the country -- SimmonsCooper LLC -- and had courted Biden to make it easier to file asbestos lawsuits by defeating tort reforms. As a leader on the Senate Judiciary Committee, Biden had blocked reform of asbestos litigation every time bills reached the Senate floor.

Cooper's law firm, which directly lobbied the Delaware senator's office to kill such bills, donated more than $200,000 to Biden's campaigns over the years, as well as his Unite Our States PAC, FEC records show. In fact, SimmonsCooper was one of Biden's biggest donors during his failed 2007-2008 run for president, pumping $53,000 into his campaign.

The firm also put up $1 million in investment capital to help his son buy out the Paradigm hedge fund as part of the arrangement brokered by another Biden family friend, Lotito, to find non-lobbying work for Hunter.. Thanks in large part to Biden's effort to kill bills reining in asbestos trial lawyers, SimmonsCooper has hauled in more than $1 billion for alleged asbestos victims.

Attempts to reach Cooper for comment were unsuccessful.

2009-2016: Boies Schiller Flexner LLP

When Joe Biden became Vice President, Hunter landed a high-paying, no-show job at the New York-based law firm, a Democrat shop long tied to the Clintons. Another major Biden donor, the firm gave him the title "of counsel."

Boies Schiller Flexner: Got Fraud charges against Hunter Biden dismissed, then brought him aboard. Boies Schiller Flexner

Boies Schiller brought Hunter aboard in 2009 after the Bidens hired the firm to defend Hunter against charges he defrauded partners in the Paradigm investment venture. Boies Schiller managed to get the case dismissed .

In 2014, a corrupt Ukrainian oligarch, who was under investigation and looking to repair his reputation to attract Western investors, started sending large payments to Boies to support Hunter for unspecified work. It's unclear what Hunter did for the oligarch, who ran the gas giant Burisma, but $283,000 showed up at the same time his father was tapped by Obama to play a central role in overseeing U.S. energy policy in Ukraine.

Boies Schiller has pumped more than $50,000 into Biden's campaigns, Federal Election Commission records show.

2013-2019: BHR Partners

After Obama named Biden his point man on China policy, Rosemont Seneca set up a joint venture worth $1 billion with the Bank of China called BHR – and Hunter was named vice-chairman and director of the new concern.

BHR Partners: Hunter arranged for one of his Chinese partners to shake hands with his father, the vice president. Beijing approved a business license shortly afterward. BHR Partners

Following in the shadow of his father's political trajectory, Hunter's new venture won the first-of-its-kind investment deal with the Chinese government at the same time Biden was jetting to Beijing to meet with top communist leaders. Secret Service records reveal Hunter flew to China on Air Force Two with his father while brokering the December 2013 deal. He arranged for one of his Chinese partners to shake hands with the vice president. BHR was registered 12 days later. Beijing OK'd a business license shortly afterward.

"No one else had such an arrangement in China," said Peter Schweizer, president of the Government Accountability Institute.

Hunter resigned from the board of the Beijing-backed equity firm earlier this year as his father faced growing criticism on the campaign trail over what critics called a glaring conflict of interest. He did not, however, divest his 10% equity stake in the Chinese fund, which is estimated to be worth tens of millions of dollars.

Schweizer, whose books include "Profiles in Corruption: Abuse of Power by America's Progressive Elites," said Biden went "soft" on the Chinese communists so his son could "cash in" on China business deals. Biden insists he did not discuss the venture with his son before, during or after his official visit to Beijing. But others see obvious hypocrisy at play in the Biden family's self-dealing in notoriously corrupt China.

"Biden was one of the most vocal champions of anti-corruption efforts in the Obama administration. So when this same Biden takes his son with him to China aboard Air Force Two, and within days Hunter joins the board of an investment advisory firm with stakes in China, it does not matter what father and son discussed," said Sarah Chayes, author of "Thieves of State: Why Corruption Threatens National Security." "Joe Biden has enabled this brand of practice."

2013-2014: U.S. Navy Reserve

Hunter was selected for a direct commission as a public affairs officer in a Virginia reserve unit.

He clearly received special treatment in securing the part-time post. Officers had to issue him two waivers – one for his age and one for a previous drug offense.

His vice president father swore him in at the White House in a small, private ceremony.

Barely a year later, authorities booted Hunter from the Navy for cocaine use after he tested positive from a urine test. The reason for his discharge was withheld from the press for several months.

2014-2019: Burisma Holdings

The Ukrainian gas giant added Hunter to its board soon after Obama named his father his point man on Ukraine policy, focusing on energy. The company paid his son as much as $83,000 a month, even though he had no energy experience to bring to the table and was required to attend just one board meeting a year.

Golf buddies: White House visitor logs show that Joe Biden met with Hunter's business partner Devon Archer, far left, on April 16, 2014. Burisma put Archer on its board shortly thereafter, followed by Hunter, far right, the next month. Fox News

At the time, the vice president was steering U.S. aid to Kiev to help develop its gas fields, which stood to benefit Burisma as the holder of permits to develop natural gas in three of Ukraine's most lucrative fields. Biden promised Ukrainian officials the US would pump more than $1 billion into their energy industry and economy during a visit to Kiev in late April 2014. He urged leaders to increase the country's gas supply and to rely on Americans to help them. Less than three weeks later, Burisma appointed his son to the board, after already retaining him for undisclosed services through Boies Schiller.

Burisma was run by an oligarch, Mykola Zlochevsky, who was under investigation at the time and seeking Western protection from prosecution. In a move observers suspect was intended to send a message to prosecutors, the company sent out a news release in May 2014 claiming, falsely, that Hunter would be in charge of its "legal unit." Burisma also trumpeted the fact that Hunter was "the son of the current U.S. Vice President Joseph Biden."

Biden's office was aware Burisma was under investigation. The administration had tried to partner with the gas company through U.S. aid programs, but the outreach project was blocked over corruption concerns lodged by career diplomats.

Viktor Shokin, ex-Ukraine prosecutor: "The truth is that I was forced out because I was leading a wide-ranging corruption probe into Burisma, and Joe Biden's son was a member of the board," he said in a recent sworn affidavit prepared for a European court. AP Photo/Sergei Chuzavkov, File

In early 2016, Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees if Ukraine did not dismiss the country's top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, who was investigating Burisma. "If the prosecutor is not fired," Biden recalled telling Ukraine's leader, "you're not getting the money."

Biden's muscling worked: Shokin was sacked in March 2016.

The former vice president says he was carrying out official U.S. policy that sought to remove an ineffective prosecutor. But Shokin had raided the home of Burisma's owner and seized his property.

In addition, Shokin said that as part of his probe he was making plans to interview Hunter about millions of dollars in fees he and his partners had received from Burisma. He insists he was fired because he refused to close the investigation.

"The truth is that I was forced out because I was leading a wide-ranging corruption probe into Burisma, and Joe Biden's son was a member of the board," Shokin said in a recent sworn affidavit prepared for a European court. "I assume Burisma had the support of Joe Biden because his son was on the board." He added that the vice president himself had "significant interests" in Burisma.

The prosecutor who replaced Shokin shut down the Burisma probe within 10 months. Burisma's founder was also taken off a U.S. government visa ban list.

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Biden claims he only learned of his son joining the Burisma board from the news media. But there is evidence Biden had been consulted in advance. White House visitor logs show that Biden met with Hunter's business partner Devon Archer on April 16, 2014. Burisma put Archer on its board shortly thereafter, followed by Hunter the next month. (Both Archer and Hunter maintain Burisma never came up during the private visit in Biden's office, which lasted late into the night.)

The day after Joe Biden's meeting with Hunter's partner in the White House, Burisma executive Vadym Pozharskyi reportedly emailed Hunter to thank him for inviting him to Washington and "giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent[sic] some time together." The Biden campaign asserts it cannot find a meeting with Pozharskyi on the former vice president's "schedule," though it did not deny such a meeting could have taken place. The Ukrainian official mentioned going out for coffee with Hunter on April 17, 2014, which indicated he was physically in D.C. at the time. RCI has not confirmed the authenticity of the April 17 email document, first disclosed by the New York Post after obtaining it from a hard drive allegedly copied from a laptop of Hunter Biden left at a computer repair shop in Wilmington, Del. Pozharskyi did not respond to emails seeking comment.

Hunter stepped down from Burisma's board in April 2019, a month before his father announced his White House bid and after critics made an issue of the conflicts his sinecure posed. He has since kept a very low profile. Unlike Trump's children, Biden's son is not out on the trail campaigning for him.

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"Hunter Biden had no experience in the field, but he did have a notable connection to the vice president, who publicly has bragged about making clear to the Ukrainians that he alone controlled U.S. aid to the country," noted Jonathan Turley, a public-interest law professor at George Washington University.

Retired FBI official I.C. Smith, who led public corruption investigations in Washington and Little Rock, Ark., said both father and son should have known joining Burisma was a bad idea, adding that it gives at least the appearance he was leveraging his name for payoffs from shady clients abroad.

I.C. Smith, ex-FBI official: "I would think, given Hunter's past, the father would have asked more questions." icsmith.com

"Clearly he's led a troubled life and would be the sort of person susceptible to becoming engaged in this sort of rather sordid deal," Smith said of Hunter.

"When he said his father asked if the deal was on the up and up and was assured it was, I would think, given Hunter's past, the father would have asked more questions," he added.

Hunter acknowledged in an ABC News interview last year that he lacked experience in both energy and Ukraine, but maintained that Burisma was impressed by other things on his resume.

"Ironically, Hunter highlighted his work at MBNA and his work on the board of Amtrak as evidence of his qualifications for the Burisma gig," said Fitton of Judicial Watch. "But both the MBNA and Amtrak jobs, under any sensible analysis, were obvious favors for Joe Biden."

Fitton argued that Biden's claim he never discussed his son's jobs and business deals rings hollow against the lengthy record of something-for-nothing nepotism.

"That's campaign spin," he said. "Hunter has already admitted to having at least one conversation on the Ukraine issue with Vice President Biden."

Biden defenders argue that many relatives of politicians are often involved in government and politics. Ivanka Trump and Don Trump Jr., for instance, have cozy relationships with, or financial stakes in, companies that may benefit from those decisions. They also point out that, while they may look bad, there's nothing illegal about such arrangements.

Fitton isn't so sure. He said Judicial Watch is demanding Obama administration documents related to Hunter's Ukraine and China deals, as well as other business arrangements potentially monetizing Biden's political power.

"We can't be sure if the arrangements were legal," he said. "If any payments or jobs were neither ordinary nor customary, there may be legal issues."

It's a federal crime to provide a government benefit or favorable change in policy in exchange for something of personal value. At a minimum, argued former federal prosecutor Andrew McCarthy, Biden "had a conflict of interest with the position his son had" on the Burisma board, noting that at the time, Biden was pushing energy policies that favored the gas giant.

The Biden School, part of the University of Delaware, which is keeping a lid on Biden records. Biden School of Public Policy and Administration

Not all of Hunter Biden's critics are coming from the right, either.

"It's hard to avoid the conclusion that Hunter's foreign employers and partners were seeking to leverage Hunter's relationship with Joe, either by seeking improper influence or to project access to him," said Robert Weissman, president of Public Citizen, a liberal watchdog group based in Washington.

The Biden Institute: Maggie Haberman, New York Times White House correspondent, was a featured speaker in 2018, according to its website . The University of Delaware holds more than 1,850 boxes of Biden records under seal . Biden Institute/University of Delaware

While Joe Biden insists "there's been no indication of any conflict of interest from Ukraine or anywhere else," Senate investigators are seeking a number of related emails and memos generated during the Obama administration, as well as his 36-year Senate career. That period, spanning from 1973 to 2009, coincides with a large chunk of his son's resume.

However, Biden has sealed the bulk of the records at the University of Delaware Library, which refuses to release any of his papers until after the election. It maintains more than 1,850 boxes of Biden records, including his speeches, voting records, position papers and notes from confidential interviews he's conducted with foreign leaders, among other documents. The papers the university is keeping a lid on could shed light on Biden's thinking behind foreign policies and controversial bills he sponsored.

A spokeswoman said the library will not release any of Biden's papers to the public until they are "properly processed and archived." Until then, "access is only available with Vice President Biden's express consent," she said, while declining to answer whether the university would comply if the Senate subpoenaed documents as part of its investigation of the Bidens.

The university houses the Biden Institute, which is part of the Joseph R. Biden, Jr. School of Public Policy and Administration.

Through a lawyer, Hunter maintained he and his father dutifully avoided "conflicts of interest" -- or even "the appearance of such conflicts." In every business pursuit, he asserted, they acted "appropriately and in good faith."

However, in a moment of candor during a recent ABC News interview, Hunter confessed: "I don't think that there's a lot of things that would have happened in my life if my last name wasn't Biden," before adding, "There's literally nothing my father in some way hasn't had influence over."

Still, the elder Biden argues it's the Trump family who has the nepotism problem. In a recent CBS "60 Minutes" interview, he slammed the president for letting his daughter and son-in-law "sit in on Cabinet meetings."

"It's just simply improper because you should make it clear to the American public that everything you're doing is for them," he intoned. "For them."

play_arrow _triplesix_ , 10 minutes ago

Crickets from the MSM on the biggest political scandal in history. They can't refute it, so they simply refuse to cover it.

I'm afraid the American Experiment is over either way, but if Biden and the Dems are successful in stealing the election, we are destined to be the next Venezuela.

[Oct 19, 2020] Hunter Biden's Laptop -Is Not Some Russian Disinformation Campaign-; DNI Ratcliffe Slams Schiff

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It appears the "Russia, Russia, Russia" cries from Adam Schiff and his dutiful media peons is dead (we can only hope) as Director of National Intel John Ratcliffe just confirmed to Foxx Business' Maria Bartiromo that:

"Hunter Biden's laptop is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign."

As Politico's Quint Forgey details (@QuintForgey) , DNI Ratcliffe is asked directly whether accusations leveled against the Bidens in recent days are part of a Russian disinformation effort.

He says no:

"Let me be clear. The intelligence community doesn't believe that because there is no intelligence that supports that."

" We have shared no intelligence with Chairman Schiff or any other member of Congress that Hunter Biden's laptop is part of some Russian disinformation campaign. It's simply not true. "

"And this is exactly what I said would I stop when I became the director of national intelligence, and that's people using the intelligence community to leverage some political narrative."

"And in this case, apparently Chairman Schiff wants anything against his preferred political candidate to be deemed as not real and as using the intelligence community or attempting to use the intelligence community to say there's nothing to see here."

"Don't drag the intelligence community into this. Hunter Biden's laptop is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign. And I think it's clear that the American people know that."

Of course, this 'fact' from 'intelligence' is unlikely to stop the "emails are Russian" narrative growing ever louder as MSM attempt to distract from the actual content of the emails. As Caitlin Johnstone noted:

So "the emails are Russian" narrative serves the interests of political convenience, partisan media ratings, and the national security state's pre-planned agenda to continue escalating against Russia as part of its slow motion third world war against nations which refuse to bow to US dictates, and you've got essentially no critical mainstream news coverage putting the brakes on any of it. This means this narrative is going to become mainstream orthodoxy and treated as an established fact, despite the fact that there is no actual, tangible evidence for it.

Joe Biden could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and the mainstream press would crucify any journalist who so much as tweeted about it. Very little journalism is going into vetting and challenging him, and a great deal of the energy that would normally be doing so is going into ensuring that he slides right into the White House.

If the mainstream news really existed to tell you the truth about what's going on, everyone would know about every questionable decision that Joe Biden has ever made, Russiagate would never have happened, we'd all be acutely aware of the fact that powerful forces are pushing us into increasingly aggressive confrontations with two nuclear-armed nations, and Trump would be grilled about Yemen in every press conference.

But the mainstream news does not exist to tell you the truth about the world. The mainstream news exists to advance the interests of its wealthy owners and the status quo upon which they have built their kingdoms. That's why it's so very, very important that we find ways to break away from it and share information with each other that isn't tainted by corrupt and powerful interests.

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As we detailed previously, as the Hunter Biden laptop scandal threatens to throw the 2020 election into chaos with what appears to be solid, undisputed evidence of high-level corruption by former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter, the same crowd which peddled the Trump-Russia hoax is now suggesting that Russia is behind it all .

To wit, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, who swore on National television that he had evidence Trump was colluding with Russia - now says that President Trump is handing the Kremlin a "propaganda coup from Vladimir Putin."

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Senator Chris Murphy (D-CT) has gone full tin-foil , suggesting that Giuliani was a 'key target' of 'Kremlin constructed anti-Biden propaganda.'

2/ Russia knew it had to play a different game than 2016. So it built an operation to cull virulently pro-Trump Americans as pseudo-assets, so blind in their allegiance to Trump that they'll willingly launder Kremlin constructed anti-Biden propaganda.

Guiliani was a key target.

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Headlines in major publications are perhaps even more conspiratorial:

And of course, propagandists are doing their thing...

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Yet, if one looks at the actual facts of the case - in particular, that Hunter Biden appears to have dropped his own laptops off at a computer repair shop, signed a service ticket , and the shop owner approached the FBI first and Rudy Giuliani last after Biden failed to pick them up, the left's latest Russia conspiracy theory is quickly debunked .

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Authored by Larry C Johnson via Sic Semper Tyrannis (emphasis ours)

This is the story of an American patriot, an honorable man, John Paul Mac Issac, who tried to do the right thing and is now being unfairly and maliciously slandered as an agent of foreign intelligence, specifically Russia. He is not an agent or spy for anyone. He is his own man. How do I know? I have known his dad for more than 20 years. I've known John Paul's dad as Mac. Mac is a decorated Vietnam Veteran, who flew gunships in Vietnam. And he continued his military service with an impeccable record until he retired as an Air Force Colonel. The crews of those gunships have an annual reunion and Mac usually takes John Paul along, who volunteers his computer and video skills to record and compile the stories of those brave men who served their country in a difficult war.

This story is very simple – Hunter Biden dropped off three computers with liquid damage at a repair shop in Wilmington, Delaware on April 12, 2019. The owner, John Mac Issac, examined the three and determined that one was beyond recovery, one was okay and the data on the harddrive of the third could be recovered. Hunter signed the service ticket and John Paul Mac Issac repaired the hard drive and down loaded the data . During this process he saw some disturbing images and a number of emails that concerned Ukraine, Burisma, China and other issues . With the work completed, Mr. Mac Issac prepared an invoice, sent it to Hunter Biden and notified him that the computer was ready to be retrieved. H unter did not respond . In the ensuing four months (May, June, July and August), Mr. Mac Issac made repeated efforts to contact Hunter Biden. Biden never answered and never responded. More importantly, Biden stiffed John Paul Mac Issac–i.e., he did not pay the bill.

When the manufactured Ukraine crisis surfaced in August 2019, John Paul realized he was sitting on radioactive material that might be relevant to the investigation. After conferring with his father, Mac and John Paul decided that Mac would take the information to the FBI office in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Mac walked into the Albuquerque FBI office and spoke with an agent who refused to give his name. Mac explained the material he had, but was rebuffed by the FBI. He was told basically, get lost . This was mid-September 2019.

Two months passed and then, out of the blue, the FBI contacted John Paul Mac Issac. Two FBI agents from the Wilmington FBI office–Joshua Williams and Mike Dzielak–came to John Paul's business . He offered immediately to give them the hard drive, no strings attached. Agents Williams and Dzielak declined to take the device .

Two weeks later, the intrepid agents called and asked to come and image the hard drive. John Paul agreed but, instead of taking the hard drive or imaging the drive, they gave him a subpoena. It was part of a grand jury proceeding but neither agent said anything about the purpose of the grand jury. John Paul complied with the subpoena and turned over the hard drive and the computer.

In the ensuing months, starting with the impeachment trial of President Trump, he heard nothing from the FBI and knew that none of the evidence from the hard drive had been shared with President Trump's defense team.

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The lack of action and communication with the FBI led John Paul to make the fateful decision to contact Rudy Giuliani's office and offer a copy of the drive to the former mayor. We now know that Rudy accepted John Paul's offer and that Rudy's team shared the information with the New York Post.

John Paul Mac Issac is not responsible for the emails, images and videos recovered from Hunter Biden's computer. He was hired to do a job, he did the job and submitted an invoice for the work. Hunter Biden, for some unexplained reason, never responded and never asked for the computer. But that changed last Tuesday, October 13, 2020. A person claiming to be Hunter Biden's lawyer called John Paul Mac Issac and asked for the computer to be returned. Too late. That horse had left the barn and was with the FBI.

John Paul, acting under Delaware law, understood that Hunter's computer became the property of his business 90 days after it had been abandoned.

At no time did John Paul approach any media outlet or tabloid offering to sell salacious material . A person of lesser character might have tried to profit. But that is not the essence of John Paul Mac Issac. He had information in his possession that he learned, thanks to events subsequent to receiving the computer for a repair job, was relevant to the security of our nation. He did what any clear thinking American would do–he, through his father, contacted the FBI. When the FBI finally responded to his call for help, John cooperated fully and turned over all material requested .

The failure here is not John Paul's . He did his job. The FBI dropped the ball and, by extension, the Department of Justice. Sadly, this is becoming a disturbing, repeating theme–the FBI through incompetence or malfeasance is not doing its job.

Any news outlet that is publishing the damnable lie that John Paul is part of some subversive effort to interfere in the United States Presidential election is on notice. That is slander and defamation. Fortunately, the evidence from Hunter Biden's computer is in the hands of the FBI and Rudy Giuliani and, I suspect, the U.S. Senate. Those with the power to do something must act. John Paul Mac Issac's honor is intact. We cannot say the same for those government officials who have a duty to deal with this information.

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[Oct 19, 2020] Does anyone care- I do

Note that this was written by a former intelligence office.
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Does anyone care? I do.

"In this episode of Common Sense, Rudy Giuliani, who was the trailblazer for RICO prosecutions in the 1980s, demonstrates how the thirty years of the Biden Family selling public office, and many other crimes, makes a perfect RICO case." RICO case

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Rudy has a u-tube show. pl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LuSpHJNPe0&feature=youtu.be


Eric Newhill , 19 October 2020 at 11:53 AM

Rudy lays out a solid case in the video. I'd say damning. I like the cigar ad too!

Biden has gone silent for four days. He apparently won't re-emerge until the debate Thursday. That's what they say anyhow. How weird for this point in the election cycle! IMO, he will probably dodge the debate because he knows Trump will hit him hard with this material. I even think that at least one Biden will be leaving us, permanently, in the near future.

Just when I thought the media couldn't defile themselves any further, they will sink to the bottom of the abyss of unethical behavior to try to save the Democrats. They must either accept defeat or go full on dictatorship, with all that implies. We are standing at the crossroads.

Fred , 19 October 2020 at 02:01 PM

The movement to discredit/disqualify any commentary on this story is intesifying. Biden's cowering in the bunker and Obama's bringing what's left of his reputation to Philly. Lord knows who'll attend that speech in person unless Covid, like in all the George Floyd events, is declared risk free for his appearance. The real polling numbers must be horrendously bad for the left.

blue peacock , 19 October 2020 at 02:23 PM

Col. Lang,

What is your confidence that a second term Trump administration will bring those at the highest levels of government to account unlike the current Trump administration?

What do you believe will change in a second Trump administration? Will Trump hire once again the same types of people like Rosenstein, Wray, Kelley, Mattis, Bolton, Barr, et al?

[Oct 19, 2020] Why Is The FBI's Top Child Porn Lawyer Involved In Hunter Biden Laptop Case- -

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Why Is The FBI's Top Child Porn Lawyer Involved In Hunter Biden Laptop Case?


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The recent New York Post bombshell reports on Hunter Biden's alleged laptop contents included a curious piece of evidence - a photograph of an FBI subpoena which bears the signature of the agency's top child porn investigator, special agent Joshua Wilson .

According to the Post , a laptop was dropped off at a Delaware computer repair shop by a man believed by the owner, John Paul Mac Isaac, to be Hunter Biden . The shop owner made a copy of the hard drive before turning it over to the FBI, which includes incriminating emails detailing alleged Biden family corruption in Ukraine and China, as well as a 'raunchy, 12-minute video that appears to show Hunter smoking crack while engaged in a sex act with an unidentified woman,' as well as ' numerous other sexually explicit images .'

FBI agent Wilson's identity was confirmed by both Western Journal and Business Insider , the latter of which compared his signature to a 2012 criminal complaint and concluded that it "clearly matches the unreversed signature on the subpoena published by the New York Post ."

As BI notes:

It's unclear whether the FBI employs more than one agent named Joshua Wilson. But the available evidence seems to show **the Joshua Wilson who signed the subpoena for Hunter Biden's laptop, and the Joshua Wilson who investigates child pornography for the FBI, are the same person**. This raises the possibility, not explored by the Post, that the FBI issued the subpoena for reasons unrelated to Hunter Biden's role in Ukraine and Burisma.

So why is the FBI's top child porn lawyer involved in the Hunter Biden laptop case? OANN 's Chanel Rion says she's seen the contents of the hard drive, which includes "Drugs, underage obsessions, power deals," which make "Anthony Weiner's down under selfie addiction look normal . "

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Meanwhile, if there is incriminating child porn on Hunter's computer, what has the FBI done about it?


IP freely , 1 hour ago

Oh good....the FBI is involved. should go no where.

Spurius Lartius , 1 hour ago

Corruption and the FBI go together like hookers and blow. Or Lindsey Graham and little boys.

Montana Cowboy , 1 hour ago

Project Veritas has produced more evidence than the corrupt Boy Scouts at the FBI.

SmokeyBlonde , 1 hour ago

People really need to get over the notion that the FBI is a law enforcement agency. They have proven time and again that they only act on behalf of the deep state, oligarchs, kleptocrats, and pederasts at the expense of the rest of us.

CrookedHillieLies , 1 hour ago

The FBI has been led by Prancing Gay Sissies, Crossdressers and Pedophiles since their inception. Crack and Hooker Hunter Biden will never be convicted of child **** - he will claim it was "planted" on his computer. The emails are a different problem and hopefully they will cause him some problems with the IRS. What a dumbazz. I can't believe the DemonRATS nominated his father to be their choice for President. Landslide for Trump / Pence / Senate / House / Supreme Court / MAGA / KAG 2020! Let's Roll.

Cash Is King , 1 hour ago

What's that old adage about apples & trees?

Spurius Lartius , 1 hour ago

You could prolly hang anyone who has been in DC for >10 years and be sure you were doing God's work.

OCnStiggs , 22 minutes ago

Why Is The FBI's Top Child **** Lawyer Involved In Hunter Biden Laptop Case?

Because the FBI has been covering like mad for the criminality in D.C. and they want Biden to win.

Just sayin'.

Kan , 1 hour ago

Because he is working to hide any real evidence of any of it, please see weiners laptop that had ALL the clinton emails and all the BIDEN corruption emails. ...

quanttech , 30 minutes ago

Tim Nolan, former judge & chairman of Donald Trump's presidential campaign in Kentucky, pled guilty to 19 counts of child sex trafficking and on February 11, 2018, he was sentenced to 20 years in prison.

Republican Ralph Shortey, former state senator & chairman of Donald Trump's presidential campaign in Oklahoma was indicted on 4 counts of child sex trafficking and child *********** and on September 17, 2018, he was sentenced to 15 years in prison.

Republican Dennis Hastert, former Speaker of the House from 1999 to 2007 & congressman of Illinois, was indicted on federal charges of molesting 4 young boys and on April 27, 2016, he was sentenced to 15 months in prison.

I could go on, but suffice to say that anyone who thinks it's just Dems or just Repubs that are the problem... are wrong.

Gardentoolnumber5 , 1 hour ago

Again, the FBI is on the case! Whoa hahahahahaha! And how long have they had a copy of the hard drive and under Wray's FBI buried it. Ya know... can't interfere in an election 6-8 months out. Abolish the FBI. Pass those who honor their oath over into the Marshals office.

dogismycopilot , 1 hour ago

The Russians and Chinese would have set him up with underage Moldovan, Ukrainian or Romanian trafficked girls.

100% so they could blackmail his dad when president.

chiswickcat , 1 hour ago

A Political family involved in sex with minors, drugs and corruption? I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you.

CheapBastard , 1 hour ago

Odd the Epstain Island flight logs handed over to the FBi have mysteriously disappeared.

OpenEyes , 39 minutes ago

As disgusting as child **** is, somehow it seems like when they put Capone away for tax evasion.

First of all, the FBI has had this laptop since last December and done absolutely nothing about it. But, with Rudy turning it over to the New York Post and making it public they have to at least appear to be doing something. (something other than investigating Russia's part in this, which nobody with an IQ above room temperature actually believes)

My guess is that they decided "we can get him for having child *********** on his computer and everybody will forget about that other stuff."

IronForge , 1 hour ago

Looks like Hunter is Jail-bound.

Pop would have Pardoned Hunter, and Harris would have Pardoned Pop.

However, since someone who saw the laptop content mentioned the "UnderAged" matl on TWTR, it's safe to presume that Hunter had access to or participated in Patronizing "UnderAged Paedo" Photos, Site Memberships, Prostitutes, Hookups, or Trafficking Arrangements.

His Strip Club Posse probably had an UnderAged Member.

Hard to Pardon Paedophiles before the BodyPolitic.

Mayor Giuliani might have several Silver Bullets here. He'll need 24/7 Escorting now since DNC/Bidens/Obama/RED_QUEEN may be Highlighted. He might as well send a Copy to Wikileaks just in case he gets Nailed by Bidens' Owners.

RICO+Drug+NatSec Charges would have been enough; but we are obligated as a Society to Deal With, Due Process, and Prosecute Allegations of Paedophilia/Child Abuse/Trafficking.

Most importantly, we will bring those Girls Out of Hunters' Alleged Patronage and into Protective Custody.

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What a Mess. I understand some Young Girls are attracted to and want to be Married/InRelationship/Mating with those in Fame/Power/Money quickly; but once the Male is Out Of HS, any new "relationship" he gets involved with needs to be with Dames 18+ and Out of HS.

chiquita , 1 hour ago

"Leave my son outta this! He has a drug problem."

lennysrv , 1 hour ago

That Biden clan, what a wonderful familial role model for the rest of the nation. Further, I'm amazed at how productive li'l Hunter is; from making mega-deals with the Chinese and Ukrainians to banging his dead brother's widow to knocking up a stripper to being a deadbeat dad to smoking crack and engaging in sex acts on video.

Joe Biden has to be so very proud of the family he has created. What a model Democrat/Liberal.

HaywoodYaBlowMe , 29 minutes ago

There are rumors, that the horrific atrocities, on the anthony weiner tape are too horrid for the public to find out. I call bulls**t! Release the kraken. To quote Louis Brandeis: "Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants." Let the "people" be made aware of the offensive behavior, perpetrated, and perpetuated by the dregs of our society. Our society needs a good flushing. We have many turds who need to be flushed from our system. It's been said that hardened NYPD officers, who have seen it all, were vomiting and having nightmares, upon viewing what was on weiner's laptop. Deputy Chief Steven Silks, of the NYPD, was found dead in his car of what was reported to be a suicide gun shot wound to his head. In fact, 9 of the 12 NYPD officials, who viewed what was on the lap top, have been found dead of supposed suicide. This info needs to be revealed to the public.

Leguran , 1 hour ago

FBI again!!! Hunter is involved....good grief, get that to the top immediately! Now, start the Kabuki Circus SHOW. Tarrah see, it we sent it right to the top in order to show the complaint will be taken seriously. Meanwhile, all future information goes to the same guy at the top and nowhere else. The job is to keep the lid on and under "investigation" so nothing leaks. Well, Josh, I hope you do not mind me calling you Josh, where are the files and where is the action? And, since you told the CIA Director, we can see the the present CIA Director is involved as well.

I just do not see how the FBI can become more corrupt. Yep it is a culture of corruption.

z tranche , 1 hour ago

Time to interview Ghislaine Maxwell and review the Epstein flight logs.

rockstone , 1 hour ago

Why? You think they were the only two people in the under age sex business catering to Washington elites??

Lou Saynis , 1 hour ago

I think the only Washington elites who were engaging in underage sex are democrats. Maybe I'm being biased but It's just a feeling.

DickStoneVan , 36 minutes ago

John Dennis Hastert. Longest running Republican Speaker of the house in history. A federal judge referred to him as a "serial child molester" and sentenced him to a mere 15 months in prison.

Lil Stevie , 1 hour ago

If there ever was a reason for TERM LIMITS this is it.

fnsnook , 1 hour ago

biden has ruling class qualified immunity. you must have missed that chapter of the constitution.

chiquita , 1 hour ago

Hunter doesn't

Rhal , 1 hour ago

This still mild compared to what was on Anthony Wieners laptop -labeled "life insurance". Yet no arrests were made there. I mean I get that Trump had to replace hundreds of judges(literally) before justice could prevail, but we're still at peak corruption!. Indictments plz.

Ecclesia Militans , 2 hours ago

The Swamp isn't going to let Joe off the hook, it's going to hold this over his head like a Sword of Damocles to keep him at his desk for his full term, in line and compliant.

MadameDeficit , 10 minutes ago

If that computer repairman hadn't made a copy and gone to a lawyer, we never would have heard about this.

On a similar note, it's very telling what the NY Post said about the contents - what (aside from child p0rn) would be illegal for them to publish?

BugMan , 43 minutes ago

Hunter and Joe Biden Scandal Takes a Dark Turn -- FBI's Top Lawyer on Child **** Involved in Case

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/hunter-joe-biden-scandal-takes-dark-turn-fbis-top-lawyer-child-****-involved-case/

noguano , 48 minutes ago

So he can cover it up?

PC kills us all , 49 minutes ago

Wray, that Deep State swamp creature, probably had the FBI remove the child **** from the computer at Joe Biden's request. Thankfully, the computer repair agent is a super patriot that copied the hard drive before it was seized by the FBI. Trump and Guiliani need to hide the repair shop owner, and hire reliable protection for him, in order to protect him from Deep State assassins.

Invert This MM , 1 hour ago

Yeah, poor little Joey. He just Quid Pro Quoed his whole carrier and got away with it until that mean new boss came to town.

chiquita , 1 hour ago

What rock do you live under? Joe has been a horrible human being his whole adult life--corrupt, lying, and cheating from the time he was in college. There's nothing redeemable about him--don't ever think he "is not a terrible man"--he is and this new information just opens up the final chapter that sheds light on a man who would use his son for decades--going back into the early 1980s--to enrich himself and his family through corruption that goes so deep, it's beyond criminal.

Brazillionaire , 1 hour ago

No. Biden is a pos. He's one of the main reasons so many Americans are in credit card debt up to their eyeballs at ridiculous interest rates. And that's the legal stuff. He's corrupt as hell. Maybe they all are. But he sure is.

Al Capone , 1 hour ago

You forgot the /sarc.

Goldencrapshoot , 1 hour ago

Anyone remember what happened to Nikolae Ceausescu?

Made in Occupied America , 1 hour ago

FBI = Friends of Biden Incorporated (in Delaware, of course)

[Oct 18, 2020] Another 'hack' job- Censorship of the Hunter Biden story shows Twitter Facebook have a big dog in the US political fight -- RT Op-ed

Oct 18, 2020 | www.rt.com

Another 'hack' job? Censorship of the Hunter Biden story shows Twitter & Facebook have a big dog in the US political fight Robert Bridge Robert Bridge

Robert Bridge is an American writer and journalist. He is the author of 'Midnight in the American Empire,' How Corporations and Their Political Servants are Destroying the American Dream. @Robert_Bridge 16 Oct, 2020 16:26 / Updated 1 day ago Get short URL Another 'hack' job? Censorship of the Hunter Biden story shows Twitter & Facebook have a big dog in the US political fight FILE PHOTO: Hunter Biden introduces his father Vice President Joe Biden during the World Food Program USA's 2016 McGovern-Dole Leadership Award Ceremony at the Organization of American States on April 12, 2016 in Washington, DC. © Getty Images / Kris Connor/WireImage 270 Follow RT on RT By suppressing news of Joe Biden's son's alleged emails, the social media titans have revealed their political stakes. That should make them ineligible to protections granted by Section 230 of the Telecommunications Act.

This week, the New York Post dropped a veritable bombshell smack in the middle of the 2020 presidential battlefield with a story so explosive it should have reverberated from sea to shining sea for many weeks. Instead, the news was duly squashed under the jackboot of Twitter and Facebook. The effort to smother the news backfired, though, instead kicking up a discussion of the social media giants having too much control over the spread of information that could be of interest to millions.

As most readers probably know by now, the Post reported this week that Hunter Biden had introduced his father, Joe Biden, the current Democratic presidential contender, to the head of Burisma, the Ukrainian energy firm where Hunter was a paid board member. What makes this revelation so significant is that not only was Joe serving as vice president at the time of the alleged introduction, but he has gone on record as saying he knew nothing about his prodigal son's overseas business dealings.

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The rabbit hole travels much deeper, however, considering that Joe Biden publicly bragged about withholding one billion dollars from the Ukrainian government unless it removed a prosecutor who was investigating Burisma at the time. And deeper still when it is remembered that Donald Trump was impeached for simply asking the Ukrainian president to investigate Joe Biden's activities in the country.

Had the social media monsters had no political 'dog in the fight,' so to speak, the Post story would have lit up Twitter and Facebook like Saturday night at the amusement arcade. Instead, both platforms quickly yanked the plug on the story, preventing even the Post from tweeting it out. Twitter explained its decision by saying the article had violated its policy with regard to "hacked material."

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That excuse does not hold a drop of water. According to the Post, Hunter Biden's emails were found in a laptop delivered to a computer repair shop in Delaware back in April 2019 – allegedly by Hunter Biden himself. When the laptop was never retrieved, however, the shop owner assumed legal ownership of the device as was his right. In other words, there was no illegal hacking of the device, as suggested by Twitter. In fact, the computer repairman was sufficiently concerned with what he had found on the laptop that he promptly handed the device over to the FBI, also providing a copy of the hard drive to Rudy Giuliani, a member of Trump's legal team.

If Twitter was genuinely concerned about the origins of the Biden email story, going so far as to block even the government's ability to retweet the Post story, then how does one explain the company's decision not to interfere with the New York Times and its exposé on Donald Trump's tax status? After all, the Times never mentioned who provided the US president's financial documents, which have still not seen the light of day. Think about that. The Post story was censored over documents it can actually produce, while the Times story was put on the fast lane to public consumption with zero physical evidence to support its claims.

ALSO ON RT.COM Caitlin Johnstone: Imagine if MSM consistently applied the evidentiary standards it's applying to Hunter Biden's emails

Why was Twitter not suspicious that the New York Times had received hacked material, as very well could have been the case? It would be very difficult to explain that as anything other than naked political interference and meddling, which Silicon Valley and the Democratic Party, by the way, would have us believe is the sole purview of Russia.

Should Twitter and Facebook lose Section 230 immunity?

Needless to say, the Republicans, forever whining that they have been unfairly targeted by Big Tech, have called on Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey to appear before the Senate as early as next week. But we've been down this dead-end road before. Every several months, the Silicon Valley CEOs make their star-studded photo-ops in Washington, swearing up and down before Congress that they are detached, apolitical animals, with the end result being that absolutely nothing changes. Maybe this time around, concerned Republicans (and Democrats) should finally do what they've been promising for so long, and that is to deprive Big Tech of its immunity by rescinding Section 230 of the Telecommunications Act of 1996.

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For the uninitiated, Section 230 grants social media companies such as Twitter and Facebook immunity from legal action taken as a result of bad information posted to its platforms. This frees Big Tech from having to perform the grueling fact-checking demanded of regular publishers; rather, they are simply supposed to serve as a free flow of information.

Yet ever since the defeat of Hillary Clinton in the 2016 elections, and the concomitant rise of Russiagate, Big Tech went against the spirit of Section 230, creating algorithms in its alleged battle against 'fake news' as a back door to creating its desired narrative. At the same time, it outsourced fact-checking to third-party organizations, among them ABC News, Snopes, Associated Press, and the Atlantic Council, each of which naturally has its own political ax to grind. With unsettling frequency, however, the ax has an uncanny way of dropping on the right-leaning creators.

In fact, back in May, Twitter even marked one of Donald Trump's tweets as potentially misleading. And now it seems that more than just the Republicans have noticed.

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This week, Federal Communications Commission Chairman Ajit Pai promised to "move forward with a rulemaking to clarify" the meaning of Section 230.

Judging by Pai's past record, this may signal a new dawn for social media, in which people are granted access to platforms that do not censor their content based on political considerations, as the First Amendment demands. Instead of taking away Big Tech's immunity from legal responsibility, however, it would be best to keep it intact, on condition there would be no more monkey business with users' accounts. Nothing less than total free speech. Is this a dream too far? Possibly.

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In any case, it would be poetic justice if the outcome of the 2020 presidential race between Trump and Biden ultimately comes down to the actions of a Delaware computer repairman, for repairs are certainly in order at this critical stage in US political history, dependent as it now is on Big Tech.

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[Oct 18, 2020] FBI 'Has To Come Clean' About Corruption Evidence, Potential Child Porn On Hunter Biden's Laptop- Sen. Johnson -

Oct 18, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

FBI 'Has To Come Clean' About Corruption Evidence, Potential Child Porn On Hunter Biden's Laptop: Sen. Johnson


by Tyler Durden Sun, 10/18/2020 - 16:35 Twitter Facebook Reddit Email Print

Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) is calling on the FBI to 'come clean' over the agency's involvement with Hunter Biden's laptop , after refusing to 'confirm or deny' certain details contained in a whistleblower complaint by a Delaware computer shop owner.

" The FBI has a duty to inform us . If they believe this was maybe Russian disinformation, they should give us a defensive briefing," Johnson told Fox News ' "Sunday Morning Futures."

"If, for example, they also believe that what information this whistleblower gave us is fraudulent, that would also be a crime, and FBI should tell us that."

Host Maria Bartiromo brought up a salient point - that the FBI was allegedly in possession of Hunter Biden's laptop which contains apparent evidence of pay-for-play corruption in Ukraine, at the same time Congressional Democrats were impeaching President Trump for asking Ukraine to investigate exactly that.

"If the FBI was in possession of these emails from Hunter Biden's computer indicating all of these payouts, why did they not make this public, as President Trump was being impeached in the Senate about Ukraine?"

Johnson replied: "the larger question really is; if they had this information - and these are genuine emails which would probably reveal all kinds of things that would have been very relevant to the impeachment case, why did they sit out? Are they covering up because Hunter Biden might be engaged in things that also maybe should have been investigated and possibly prosecuted? Dow we have two systems of justice? One for Democrats, one for Republicans, one for the well connected, vs. one for the rest of the Americans."

https://www.youtube.com/embed/UONQiPT0Mks?start=233

Child porn?

Bartiromo then steered the conversation to national security risks - noting that the signature of the FBI's top child porn lawyer appeared on the subpoena for Hunter's laptop.

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"The subpoena was served by an FBI agent whose name is Joshua Wilson, and over the last five years he has been working on child pornography issues. Connect the dots - if an FBI agent is working on child pornography issues for five years, why is he subpoenaing the laptop of Hunter Biden? Is there a connection here? Should this suggest that there's a child pornography issue here on that laptop?"

"Well, I think you just made the connection ," Johnson replied. "This is what the FBI has to come clean about . This isn't a standard investigation... this is something that, as we were talking about, relates to national security. And if there's criminal activity involved that can be tied to Hunter Biden or his business associates, or even possibly tied back to members of the Biden family - well some of these emails indicate that Joe Biden is fully aware of this ."

As we noted on Friday, FBI agent Wilson's identity was confirmed by both Western Journal and Business Insider , the latter of which compared his signature to a 2012 criminal complaint and concluded that it "clearly matches the unreversed signature on the subpoena published by the New York Post ."

play_arrow 2 AlaricBalth , 8 hours ago

Hunter Biden has most likely been compromised by tapes of him with young girls while he was in China. When I was traveling back and forth to China a few years ago, I was told by our Chinese attorney to be very cautious because Americans were always recorded in their hotel rooms.

It was the policy of the Chinese government. Privacy laws are non existent. All Americans were taped in the event that any American could be utilized for the benefit of the CCP in the future.

Also, there are many high end "Karaoke" parlors in China where horizontal refreshment can be procured. Many Americans frequent these establishments. The girls are beautiful. The places have cameras everywhere.

Urfa Man , 4 hours ago

Thanks for mentioning the Chicoms, TBT. None of the tabloid-level sex stuff counts nearly as much as the fact that Joe Biden's secret payoffs from the Chinese (via Ye Jianming, Biden's Chinese paymaster). The sneaky Chinese money for Biden makes this election a dangerous national security crisis.

Joe Biden couldn't get a security clearance for even a low level government job now, let alone C in C of the US armed forces.

Dogbreath15 , 1 hour ago

"It's not physically possible to shame a Democrat."

The Elite Democrats WANT to sell out the country, they welcome dragging the USA through the sewer (and then blame the opposition!)

St. TwinkleToes , 6 hours ago

Makes you wonder how many of those Asian/Chinese massage parlors are spying and collecting operations for the CCP, filming compromising acts to be used against you when the time comes arrives.

DeathMerchant , 5 hours ago

It's referred to as the Epstein Protocol.

optimator , 5 hours ago

Credit where it's due. Cheaper to run a few massage parlors than running an expensive island operation.

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Warthog777 , 4 hours ago

Chinese whistleblower provided 3 hard drives of damning info from the ccp on the Biden family, biological weapons etc. , to the DOJ, Pelowsi, and eventually Trump.

Compromised!

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/chinese-whistleblower-testimony-on-biden/

vovishka.2018 , 6 hours ago

Biden Derangement Syndrome ..

@Dragonlord. - The TrumpTard that has gone completely out of his mind. The TrumpTard wants to blame the Biden family for the corruption, perversion, the violence & destruction of the moral fabric in the US - LOL

The TrumpTard believes that Trump is going to solve the corruption, the political and racial divide in Yankeelandia - LOL

Corruption is Legal in America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tu32CCA_Ig&ab_channel=RepresentUs

For yr entertainment: "Dueling Town Halls Cold Open - SNL"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UFfD0HIhv4&ab_channel=SaturdayNightLive

fpdguy , 5 hours ago

Sydney Powell should be near the top of the list for candidates to replace Wray. She's familiar with a fair amount of the chain of corruption while dealing with the Flynn railroading. She's seen what lengths they are willing to go to and would be less apt to think she needs to play nice once appointed.

2banana , 8 hours ago

But yet a "noose" in a NASCAR garage gets 15 FBI agents.

Ex-NYPD Commissioner: I've Seen Hunter's Hard Drive; the Bidens 'Belong in Handcuffs'

https://neonnettle.com/news/12943-ex-nypd-commissioner-i-ve-seen-hunter-s-hard-drive-the-bidens-belong-in-handcuffs-

FUG , 8 hours ago

He'll be another NYPD officer to "commit suicide" as others who saw Weiner's laptop.

SDShack , 7 hours ago

and Pizzagate is just a conspiracy...yep...right.

KnightOfSwords , 7 hours ago

Pizzagate is anything but a "conspiracy theory" These people are sick, evil, degenerates. Take a real good look at John Podesta and Hillary Clinton.

Calibabe , 8 hours ago

What is contained on Hunter Biden's laptop is enough to put anyone on this site in prison for a long, long, long time. Yet, he remains free, walking around, not a worry in the world. I wonder how his "wife" and the stripper who had his child feel about him now? This guy is a major creeper. The bigger question however isn't so much what the CCP has on Hunter, but what does the CCP have on ole Joe? You can bet that file they have is thick and probably just as bad.

Robert De Zero , 6 hours ago

Say what you will about Rudy Giuliani. None of this would be happening right now without him. He's truly the best friend President Trump could have. He helped get him through 4 years of hell with the fake Russia hoax and then hits a home run in the last inning leading up to Election Day.

Now Rudy is taking massive flak from the corrupt liar media.

Rudy, my hat is off to you sir. You deserve medals.

Robert De Zero , 6 hours ago

The tired and failed "Russia is behind everything" trope never gets old for you guys or the fake news. Get some new material, yawn.

indaknow , 8 hours ago

Not sure how the left can spin this as Russian disinformation when Hunter's own lawyer just last week contacted the shop owner asking for the laptop back.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/breaking-email-sent-computer-shop-owner-john-paul-mac-isaac-hunter-bidens-attorney-released/

lester1 , 8 hours ago

Chris Wray is a deep state swamp creature. Did anyone actually expect him, or the FBI to do the right thing and indict Biden for corruption? They have been sitting on this laptop evidence for almost a year!!

dibiase , 8 hours ago

Those q guys were telling us to trust him just a year or so back

Fishthatlived , 8 hours ago

"Us?"

SDShack , 7 hours ago

The timing of all this is what connects the dots. 3 Laptops were dropped off in early 2019 to the computer repair shop. Work was done and technician tried to get paid for 3-4 months and have the laptops picked up. This is now fall 2019. Then the Russian Mueller Hoax Impeachment hits the news, and the technician realizes he is holding dynamite with a lit fuse, so he contacts the FBI. The coverup begins by December 2019.

NOTE - this is when the Dem Primary Season is kicking off. Bernie is the leader, but no establishment demorat can stop him and are winnowed out, especially the big donor favorite Kamalho early on. When Bernie is feared to be the nominee, a full court press for Senile Joe is made by the establishment to stop him. Pretty obvious now that the establishment was being extorted by the Chicoms with the original information on these hard drives. Who would be video taping a PASSED OUT HUNTER, and sex romps by Hunter with chinese girls, other then the CCP? The message was install compromised Joe...or we take down your party. And Lordy...look what happened...Senile Joe steamrolled Bernie, and Kamalho became the fallback position. I could never figure out the reason for the demorats to rig the system for Senile Joe, who was clearly one of the weakest candidates. It all makes sense when you realize HE was the CCP Favorite.

They thought the only people that had the blackmail info was the CCP and the demorat establishment and swamp. The fix was in. They never figured on an idiot crackhead giving the hard drive evidence to a 3rd party. That wrinkle is now beyond their control and is going to blow up DC. The Mutual Assured Destruction card has just been played. The ***-puckering on all sides has to be reaching nuclear levels.

mc888 , 6 hours ago

I could never figure out the reason for the demorats to rig the system for Senile Joe

Remember Obama stating he wanted a "continuation" of his administration?

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/robert-spencer/2020/10/17/biden-muslims-will-serve-at-every-level-of-his-administration-n1066190

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/exclusive-former-obama-vp-joe-biden-recent-ad-disparages-police-calls-muslim-voters-wage-jihad/

Southern_Boy , 4 hours ago

So where is Seth Rich's case in all of this?

Tseg , 4 hours ago

With the Kennedy Assassination redactions.

Mister Delicious , 4 hours ago

the reason they STILL wont release all the Kennedy assassination files is Israel and the Jewish/Zionist International Mafia is implicated.

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/File:Final_Judgment.pdf

https://www.unz.com/article/did-israel-kill-the-kennedies/

Just like 9/11.

fxrxexexdxoxmx2 , 4 hours ago

Unsolved homicide. And nothing will come of it since no investigation by any law enforcement agency is happening.

4Y_LURKER , 3 hours ago

Unbelievably, it's all connected!

ponchoramic , 6 hours ago

Seriously, this is sick as f and the implications for blackmail 'were/ are' huge.

Think about what Trump has said, over and over.

If Biden wins, China will own America.

I will add, and Joe Biden.

William Dorritt , 6 hours ago

Is this another reason the FBI hid the Hunter Biden Laptop?

By Selwyn Duke

It didn't surprise the informed, and understandably a bit cynical, to hear that the FBI sat on Hunter Biden's laptop instead of seeking justice. The bureau was previously involved in an illegal plot to take down Donald Trump, after all, and its Deep State elements would assuredly love to see Joe Biden succeed him in January. So why would they reveal damning information on their establishment hope? Yet suppressing Huntergate perhaps provided a secondary benefit:

The information could be used against Biden once he was in office.

This wouldn't be anything new. It's believed that longtime, legendary FBI director J. Edgar Hoover used "dirt files" on politicians for leverage; for one thing, it's said, this enabled him to remain bureau head for as long as he wished. William Sullivan, once the number three official under Hoover, put it this way: From the moment the director got damning information on a senator, the man would be "right in his pocket."

So not only could suppressing Huntergate get Biden in office, but then maybe it's, "Nice presidency you've got there, Mr. Biden -- I'd hate to see anything happen to it."

https://archive.is/YZgSo#selection-367.0-581.169

Goldenfoxx , 5 hours ago

Didn't Guiliani tell the FBI that they had a copy of Humper's hard drive - or the owner of the computer business? It all sounds so convenient. No wonder Biden went into hiding, his son probably told dad what he did and that 50% of the take was too much. Humper maybe gave dad an ultimatum. Drug addicts are like that "you bring me down, you go down lower." Blackmail can be a bitch.

NumbNuts , 4 hours ago

Can they come clean on:
1) JFK assassination
2) WTC 93' bombing set up
3) OKC bombing set up
4) MLK death
5) Waco
6) Just about all other domestic terrorism activities

@therealOrangeBuffoon , 4 hours ago

Conspiracy theorists have no intention of believing anything provable. It's about chasing rainbows.

NumbNuts , 4 hours ago

Then we should believe what they have to tell us about the Russian Collusion and all things Biden? Naive, are we?

Stu Pedassle , 4 hours ago

I can prove that Building 7 fell uniformly on it's own footprint in what appears to be a controlled demolition - does that count?

NumbNuts , 4 hours ago

According to @therealOrangeBuffoon , you have to go with what NIST told us, before they changed their story, thanks to AE911truth.org .

Stu Pedassle , 4 hours ago

Truth is treason in an empire of lies - Ron Paul

[Oct 16, 2020] -more interesting to me and my family ...- NY Post - Sic Semper Tyrannis

Oct 16, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

"more interesting to me and my family ..." NY Post

"Hunter Biden pursued lucrative deals involving China's largest private energy company -- including one that he said would be "interesting for me and my family," emails obtained by The Post show .

One email sent to Biden on May 13, 2017, with the subject line "Expectations," included details of "remuneration packages" for six people involved in an unspecified business venture.

Biden was identified as "Chair / Vice Chair depending on agreement with CEFC," an apparent reference to the former Shanghai-based conglomerate CEFC China Energy Co.

His pay was pegged at "850 " and the email also noted that "Hunter has some office expectations he will elaborate."

In addition, the email outlined a "provisional agreement" under which 80 percent of the "equity," or shares in the new company, would be split equally among four people whose initials correspond to the sender and three recipients, with "H" apparently referring to Biden ."

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Well, you can see why the Chinese wanted and needed Hunter's expertise. He had demonstrated his worth with the Ukrainian companies.

And who is the "big guy" for whom Hunter is said to be holding 1o M? pl

https://nypost.com/2020/10/15/emails-reveal-how-hunter-biden-tried-to-cash-in-big-with-chinese-firm/

Bobo , 16 October 2020 at 05:40 PM

Well I expect by the end of next week all them Biden voters via mail will be running to their Supervisor of Elections offices to retract their votes. Hopefully they are allowed to, if not, run to the courts.
As to the "Big Guy" It's Pop, you know the one who gets 50% of everything. I read that in one of Hunters texts to his daughter that Rudy is holding.

Fred , 16 October 2020 at 06:09 PM

The not so widely read Breitbart has a doozy out about Hunter's early business associate Devon Archer, one going back to 2011. If true it's another on-target salvo to the Biden family reputation.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/16/exclusive-this-is-china-inc-emails-reveal-hunter-bidens-associates-helped-communist-aligned-chinese-elites-secure-white-house-meetings/

[Oct 16, 2020] Banned by Biden! A Digital Iron Curtain Descends Upon America. By Fred - Sic Semper Tyrannis

Oct 16, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

...You have undoubtablely heard about the Weineresque hard drive discovery involving Hunter Biden and his emails. You probably didn't see it on Twitter or Facebook.

In a quite open effort to suppress news, restrain the trade of news organizations in competition with them, these two firms have actively 'shadow banned' the story and locked out a number organizations and people from their accounts, starting with:
The NY Post, one of the largest news organizations in the US and publisher of the story .

Censor the press? Why yes, that's exactly what was done here. Questions from other competitors in the press? Well those aren't banned; however, it sure looks like the Biden campaign supplies those to the fake news reporters. Let me suggest one.

Continue reading "Banned by Biden! A Digital Iron Curtain Descends Upon America. By Fred" "

Posted at 09:45 AM in As The Borg Turns , China , Current Affairs , Fred , gove


longarch , 16 October 2020 at 10:32 AM

Tor, IPFS, and I2P are still available for the moment. If a serious Iron Curtain descends, uninformed Americans can ask their friends who pirate Internet content to teach them how to use basic anonymity and pseudonymity tech. That should work for a while, at least. Eventually, if any hardcore privacy tech attracts mainstream users, we can expect that every nosy private detective and her cat will have exploits to defeat it, so the march of software development is never-ending.

However, we are not at the stage where we must teach our neighbors how to use 8kun.top. (If you want to learn, you're welcome to join us, but honestly it has a learning curve and it is not optimal for the present situation.)

Currently clearnet sites are summarizing anonymous research. You can reach out to convenient new sites such as:

https://wearethene.ws/

to get user-friendly summaries of the news that the lamestream media doesn't want you to see. You will note that many of the stories at that site come from user-friendly news sites that you might already know about, such as:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/

https://www.oann.com/

Diana L Croissant , 16 October 2020 at 11:32 AM


Perhaps it's time for people to get back to simpler lives and just quit finding any reason to use any of the services of the "Digital Iron Curtain" establishments.

You would be surprised how much more pleasant your life will become without them. Become a "Luddite" for our time.

I've learned that it's easy not to use the services or products of companies that have become too political.

Deap , 16 October 2020 at 12:19 PM

All good points and a very timely reminder. How does this Biden total media blackout control comport with Democrat claims Trump is a dictator, that we will lose America if Trump is re-elected and we must all end Trump's reign of authoritarian control?

So glad I never signed up for Twitter, do not have a Facebook account and don't even own a cell phone. Yet the Biden "news" still broke through the high-tech censorship Wall. Democrats are patently schizophrenic about "open borders".

Artemesia , 16 October 2020 at 12:29 PM


regarding C-Span: " In related news C-SPAN suspends political editor Steve Scully. Yes, he was going to be the presidential debate moderator at the second debate; now he admits he lied about his Twitter feed being hacked. Blue, check."

I watch C Span online; have done so for years. I think C Span is one of the more insidious of the media outlets, precisely because people think it is so "fair and balanced," "not like Fox or CNN" that have an obvious bias.

C Span's unobvious bias is what you don't hear -- never, ever hear, and that is any word that disparages ADL, AIPAC, or the narratives they and their myriad associated organizations hold dear.
Steve Scully has been one of the fiercest defenders of that invisible protective barrier, their Golden Boy for most of his career and most of C Span's existence. Maybe Scully is becoming too expensive: C Span has begun posting advertisements before granting access to live stream programs.

Or perhaps he's aging out. The people who ensure the above-mentioned policies prevail are unabashed about their practice of hand-picking people like Scully: Irish, Catholic, innocent choir-boy appearance.

As Plaintiff's Exhibit #1 I offer statements from Anita Weiner's Expanding Historical Consciousness: The Development of the Holocaust Education Foundation https://tinyurl.com/y5q7eg5v
a book describing how, in the late-1980s and early 1990s Zvi Weiss proceeded step-by-step to include "holocaust education" first at Northwestern University, where Weiss selected Irish Catholic scholar of German history Peter Francis Hayes, spent $3000 for a substitute teacher for Hayes's classes while he spent the semester in Israel being prepped to spearhead Weiss's agenda. Weiss's success at Northwestern propelled him next to Notre Dame, then to universities across the country, and then to US military academies. In 2013 a department of holocaust studies became fully integrated into Northwestern University; it's reasonable to assume Northwestern is not alone in this.

Fred , 16 October 2020 at 12:43 PM

Artemesia,

CSPAN suspended political editor Steve Scully for lying. Other news organizations covering the election did not.
http://static.c-spanvideo.org/files/pressCenter/C-SPAN+statement+on+Steve+Scully+October+15%2C+2020.pdf
I don't think CSPAN is a 'media outlet" as that term is generally understood. However, for your other complaints, you should take them up with CSPAN management.
https://www.c-span.org/about/mission/

Bill H , 16 October 2020 at 02:03 PM

With respect to this hard drive, the Washington Post has an article saying that the White House was warned last year that Rudy Giuliani was "the target of an influence operation by Russian intelligence." The source of that information is, of course, "sources who demanded anonymity to discuss sensitive information" and some "intercepted communications."

So from that we are to assume that the Hunter Biden hard drive is not real, but is a subterfuge created by the FSB, or the GRU, or perhaps by Putin himself.

Peter VE , 16 October 2020 at 02:05 PM

The absolutely dumbest part of it all was that, by banning the Post, Twitler and Faceplant have created more interest in the story than had they ignored it. Even NPR had to cover the reaction to the ban, whilst curiously omitting mention of the details of the EMails.

Fred , 16 October 2020 at 02:44 PM

Bill H,

With respect to the reporters, did anyone call the referenced person in Ukraine? Did anyone call the local FBI and ask what happened? Did anyone ask any of the Bidens? With respect to discrediting anyone associated with Trump, including Guliani, where have you been since 2016?

akaPatience , 16 October 2020 at 03:15 PM

IRON CURTAIN - what an apt reference for these times of shameless, reckless, ruinous, fascist-like censorship, intellectual dishonesty, and utter hypocrisy.

Fred , 16 October 2020 at 03:20 PM

Artemesia,

I wrote a blog post on censorship, your second resonse about events 15 years ago is almost as long as what I wrote and is also irrelevant to what big tech is doing with the Hunter Biden story. Take your axe and animus against CSPAN elsewhere.

Eric Newhill , 16 October 2020 at 04:38 PM

Fred,
Apparently, in believing there is something to the Hunter Biden email story, you are the victim of yet another Russian misinformation operation designed to help their good friend Donald Trump. That was what I'm picking up from the MSM. The FBI is even about to confirm...er uh...I mean investigate, Russian involvement. You should be more careful! Thankfully, socially media continues to do their job of protecting you from the forces of evil! Can I get an "amen"?

Fred , 16 October 2020 at 06:06 PM

Eric,

Amen and don't you dare read that article about Hunter's "business associate" over on Breitbart, they've already been discredited.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/16/exclusive-this-is-china-inc-emails-reveal-hunter-bidens-associates-helped-communist-aligned-chinese-elites-secure-white-house-meetings/

Eric Newhill , 16 October 2020 at 07:03 PM

Fred,
Too late. I read it earlier today. But I swear I only so because I was just curious as to what kind of sinister misinformation those dastardly Ruskies are putting out there to defame noble Joe Biden and interfere with our system of government. And, to be clear, I only read Breitbart to see what Russia aligned far-right terrorist white supremacists are plotting. Have to be informed to be properly on guard, you know.

And if I was ever seen in a strip club, that wasn't me, but if it was, I was only there for the music.

No need to put me on a list, to deactivate my internet access or contact my employer to let HR know they have an employee wandering down the crooked path to the Wrong Side of History.


Artemesia , 16 October 2020 at 07:39 PM

Fred, I don't understand the "Field" photo.

What is burning?

nb. Ironic that you censored my comment that detailed the way that groups given a platform by C Span are using the US legal system to **censor** people who legitimately sought to speak out against the proposed, and now effected, removal of the statue of Robert E Lee in Charlottesville.

Fred , 16 October 2020 at 07:49 PM

Artemesia,

When you live in a concrete jungle and the building burn down you are left with a field of concrete dreams.

This is a private blog, not a commercial enterprise, to which I have been granted the privelege of writing commentary. I deleted you 600+ words, as I felt them to be nothing more than irrelevant trolling. Long and irreleven commentary being one of the halmarks of trolling. But since you are requesting politely I'll post them in their entirety over on an open thread, and perhaps our host will publish them.

You can complain to C-SPAN about their actions from 15 years ago here:
https://www.c-span.org/about/contactUs/
Good luck.

[Oct 15, 2020] Ghislaine Maxwell urges US appeals court to keep 'sensitive' deposition on relations with Jeffrey Epstein under wraps -- RT USA News

Oct 15, 2020 | www.rt.com

Ghislaine Maxwell urges US appeals court to keep 'sensitive' deposition on relations with Jeffrey Epstein under wraps 13 Oct, 2020 22:31 / Updated 20 hours ago Get short URL Ghislaine Maxwell urges US appeals court to keep 'sensitive' deposition on relations with Jeffrey Epstein under wraps Ghislaine Maxwell appears via video link during her arraignment hearing in Manhattan Federal Court in New York. © Reuters / Jane Rosenberg 111 16 Follow RT on RT Ghislaine Maxwell's sworn testimony on her ties with convicted sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein must remain sealed to ensure she receives a fair hearing in her own criminal case, her lawyer told a federal appeals court.

Attorney Adam Mueller urged the 2nd US Circuit Court of Appeals in New York on Tuesday to reverse an earlier federal court ruling to unseal Maxwell's deposition. The British socialite is charged with enabling Epstein's sexual abuse of underage girls – some allegedly as young as 14 years old – but denies any wrongdoing.

READ MORE: Virgin Islands AG demands ENTIRETY of Epstein flight logs, 'sparking panic' among wealthy passengers

The revelation of "intimate, sensitive, and personal" details in the deposition will violate Maxwell's right against self-incrimination, Mueller argued, adding that those facts may also imperil a fair trial as jurors may show prejudice towards his client.

We're concerned about preserving the status quo. There's going to be a public criminal trial, and this will all be aired in open court... We think that vindicates the public interest as well.

Maxwell's 418-page testimony was provided during a civil defamation suit brought by Virginia Giuffre, who claims Epstein kept her as a "sex slave" and that the British socialite acted as an accomplice. The deposition was filled with suggestive questions, her lawyer said, arguing that some of Maxwell's answers could be just as "revealing" as an admission of wrongdoing.

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Meanwhile Giuffre's lawyer, David Boies, insists the deposition should be unsealed in an "even-handed way" to ensure no context is lost, arguing there is a "substantial presumption" of public access to the material.

Financier Jeffrey Epstein, who had many friends among US elites, died in an apparent suicide at a Manhattan jail last year as he was awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges. His former confidant Maxwell was arrested in July and remains in custody, as the 58-year-old was deemed an unacceptable flight risk. Mickey Mic 17 hours ago The judge ruled that the documents should be unsealed. Ms. Maxwell has yet again sought to muddy the water as the clock clicks closer to midnight. The federal agents who arrested Maxwell found a cellphone wrapped in tin foil inside of her New Hampshire home in "a misguided effort to evade detection," prosecutors said Monday. Prosecutors revealed new details of what took place the day Maxwell was arrested and argued they underscore the risks of allowing her out of detention. They also pointed to her wealth, saying she controls a Swiss trust worth $4 million and has an account in England that has at times held over $2 million. "To the extent the defendant now refuses to account for her ownership of or access to vast wealth, it is not because it does not exist it's because she is attempting to hide it," prosecutors wrote. She shouldn't be able to delay the unsealing of anything. Just put her on trial and let us see the court see the evidence (or lack thereof). If she truly has nothing to hide...then why is she always trying to hide things? Maxwell former girlfriend of Epstein; believes the convicted pedophile was murdered while awaiting trial and fears the same ? Notice how the story was swept under the rug as quick as facts started to emerge ? Covid, Riots kept the heat off the MSM who was found guilty of suppressing the facts about Epstein's case. Not one name was revealed about getting compromised ? Prosecutors needs to set their sights higher !!!! alfredi 17 hours ago Strange - a defendant doesn't want the crimes committed to be exposed. Shekelsburg 6 hours ago She is afraid Trump will off her too. Nathan075 17 hours ago What she means to inform the judges is " If you give away Israel's game ( after all I am a stooge), then you will be open to extermination" Veritas Nathan075 12 minutes ago It will be Ghislaine herself who will be in danger from Mossard operatives not the judges, just remember what happened to her boss Epstein. RRRicD Nathan075 15 hours ago This strikes so close to the truth its the Elephant in the room no one will look at. Truthfrees 12 hours ago She has a lot of money and connections to the Mossad, who have connections to USA justice system. She will likely get a get out of jail card by simply exposing a few higher ups and work a sweet deal to escape to EU or Israel where she will not be charged or sued by the victims. bookburner451 8 hours ago Sensitive to whom? The intelligence agencies that ran her? Carl Cuckproof 14 hours ago who was her dad i forget. heard he was with our greatest allies Reply Veritas Carl Cuckproof 10 minutes ago Maxwell the owner of the UK's Daily Mirror and allegedly an Israeli spy, he drowned at sea. Reply Ally Hauptmann-Gurski Carl Cuckproof 14 hours ago Her Dad plundered people's pension accounts and sent the money to New York where she was to have a newspaper. But then Daddy died unexpectedly and young Ghislaine needed a financial adviser. She found that in the Epstein brothers who became quite wealthy with the stolen money. She had still access to it though, and therefore paid her hideout with 2 million cash after Epstein's death. Shekelsburg 6 hours ago How much did Trump pay her? Reply 1 Veritas Shekelsburg 7 minutes ago I do not believe anyone in the Republicans were involved with Epstein to any gre talmudicticks Dmitri193 10 hours ago I rather see her getting a life sentence in prison, i expect the female prisoners as intolerant to pedo's as the male section.

[Oct 14, 2020] 'Cuties' is merely 'misunderstood,' Netflix co-CEO says, and idea of 'censoring storytelling' is 'surprising' in 2020 America -- RT USA News

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'Cuties' is merely 'misunderstood,' Netflix co-CEO says, and idea of 'censoring storytelling' is 'surprising' in 2020 America 13 Oct, 2020 22:26 / Updated 13 hours ago Get short URL 'Cuties' is merely 'misunderstood,' Netflix co-CEO says, and idea of 'censoring storytelling' is 'surprising' in 2020 America Netflix's Ted Sarandos is shown arriving at an awards show in February. © Reuters / Lucas Jackson 93 Follow RT on RT Netflix co-CEO Ted Sarandos is taken aback that anyone would seek to censor 'Cuties,' saying the film – called "child porn" by critics and the subject of a criminal indictment by a Texas grand jury – is just "very misunderstood."

"It is a film that is very misunderstood with some audiences, uniquely within the United States," Deadline quoted Sarandos as saying on Monday at the Mipcom online trade show for entertainment content distributors. "The film speaks for itself."

ALSO ON RT.COM Netflix's backing of 'Cuties' is bad for its reputation, but the damage the film is doing to profits should hurt it more

The statement marked Sarandos' first public comments on the controversy since a grand jury in Tyler County, Texas last month indicted Netflix for promoting "lewd exhibition" of the genitals or pubic area of underage children. The indictment said the material "appeals to the prurient interest in sex and has no serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value."

READ MORE 'Cuties' goes to court: Netflix INDICTED by Texas grand jury for lewd depiction of children in controversial film 'Cuties' goes to court: Netflix INDICTED by Texas grand jury for lewd depiction of children in controversial film

Netflix said last week that the charge was "without merit" and that ' Cuties' was "social commentary against the sexualization of young children."

But lawmakers called for a federal investigation of whether Netflix violated child pornography laws by distributing the film, and Democrat US Representative Tulsi Gabbard said ' Cuties' would "whet the appetite of pedophiles and fuel the child sex-trafficking trade." Republican senator from Texas Ted Cruz, meanwhile, has asked US attorney general to investigate whether Netflix violated federal laws against child pornography. A boycott campaign to cancel Netflix subscriptions erased $8 billion of Netflix's market value as a publicly traded company in two days.

Sarandos didn't expect such intense controversy, especially after the film was shown in Europe without much pushback. "It's a little surprising in 2020 America that we're having a discussion about censoring storytelling," he said.

Ironically, Netflix was criticized in August for using a promotional poster that sexualized underage girls in ' Cuties,' while the poster used for the film in Europe was relatively innocuous.

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The storytelling in ' Cuties' included sexualized dance routines by preteen girls and a scene in which a girl pulls down her underwear and takes a picture of her genitals to post online. Other storytelling in the movie includes close-up shots of the girls' crotches and buttocks, as well as a scene in which they discuss a pornographic video. yhwhisevil 9 hours ago Its not about a story, its about normalizing an imagery so that their people can finally get to do their works publicly. Reply 10 Earthwatch yhwhisevil 4 hours ago Its been normailzed for the past 50 years. All you people sound like youve just been unfrozen from the 50s and are only now realising how much the world has changed. Reply 1 MiloDiddlbomb 8 hours ago So Netflix requiring all sorts of WOKE content and characters or you won't get a contract isn't censoring? Reply 5 LordWabbit 5 hours ago I think he is the person who has a misunderstanding. Lets start with the fact that the main actors are 13 years old. Nothing inherently wrong with having 13 year old actors, but lets take a look at what they are doing in the movie. "Twerking : The rhythmic gyrating of the lower fleshy extremities in a lascivious manner with the intent to elicit sexual arousal." And perhaps now you see the problem. But perhaps I still do not understand, I don't understand how the sexual objectification of 13 year old children can possibly be construed as anything but wrong. Before this movie came out, if a convicted sex offender had footage of this type on his phone he would be rapidly sentenced to another jail term as a repeat sex offender, and rightly so. Now he or his lawyer can argue that whatever footage he has on his phone that has 13 year olds acting with the intent to elicit sexual arousal is just art, that it's being misunderstood. After all, there is an entire movie doing it, so why can't he. Anyone who was involved in this movie, who thought it was a "Jolly good idea" to make it, anyone who decided to release it into the public domain, and anyone who attempts to defend it and label those who have issues with it as not being able to understand it should be locked up. It's child pornography. If they don't understand this, me and a couple hundred thousand fathers will help them understand it, with baseball bats to the part they seem to be thinking with. Reply 3 ivyp 13 hours ago cancelling netflix as we speak Reply 15 1 Show 2 previous replies PeterOchoa ivyp 5 hours ago I cancelled it a month ago. I could see the agenda Reply 6 Earthwatch ivyp 6 hours ago I'm sure Netflix is devastated at your loss... Reply 1 5 Show 3 more replies bedwere 18 hours ago What is not surprising is that the power elite is made of paedophiles. Reply 18 sukmiwangyak 15 hours ago Ted Sarandos is only trying to get Joe Bidens favorite film back up for some stress relieve. lol lolz Reply 7 Cosmos 9 hours ago See if he was on Epstein island? Reply 5 bookburner451 8 hours ago Epstein was just misunderstood. Reply 5 1 Kenneth Betts 14 hours ago Perhaps all pedophiles are just misunderstood. And the childhood trauma is just an imagination. (gag gag vomit) Reply 7 Aine1068 6 hours ago The level of denial and projection is so strong with these sick power puppets. Reply 4
Franc 4 hours ago It isn't the story that is the problem, it's the blatant pedophilic content that was filmed. We've had tons of controversial stories and dark topics in movies before, but actually making the CHILD actors do these things on film and then releasing the film to the public is the problem here. In trying to make a film denouncing child p*rn, you have made child p*rn. And shame on netflix for being too perverse or too dumb to admit this. Reply Earthwatch 6 hours ago This story tells me everything wrong with the US. Triggered religious nuts flying off the handle over any perceived injustice, when they have no idea of the content. Happened with video nasties in the 80s and video games in the 90s. Reply 1 3 Franc Earthwatch 3 hours ago You don't have to have any faith at all to know that exploiting children is wrong. Just because the film is about the dangers of child exploitation, doesn't make it okay to exploit children while making the movie. Wake up. Reply CA_Sue 27 minutes ago Another perverted example of so called entertainment, by any other name, still stinks of greed.

[Sep 23, 2020] 'Cuties' Has Been Here for Decades by HUNTER DERENSIS

Sep 21, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

Child exploitation in the name of art is nothing new. 30 years ago, Robert Mapplethorpe was doing it with taxpayer funding. Cincinnati: Hundreds of anti-porn protesters gathered outside the Hamilton Co. Courthouse in protest of the Robert Mapplethorpe photo exhibition. The exhibit contains explicit homo-erotic & mado-masochistic photos.

Art, as an expression of human emotion and imagination, is so timeless that it evades definition. No two people can agree on what constitutes "good art," or even what art is at all. Art can be beautiful or ghastly, sublime or pedestrian, simple or complex, affirming or contentious. But in these wide and diverse interpretations, should any action or image be permitted in the name of art?

That is the far-reaching question that ought to be asked following the contested release of the film Cuties . A French film being distributed through the streaming service Netflix, Cuties tells the story of an eleven-year old French-Senegalese Muslim girl whose identity is split between her traditionally minded heritage and her interest in joining an adult-style dance troupe.

While the film carries an overall message that the sexualization of young girls leads to negative, unhealthy results, it does so by presenting the viewer with unconscionable, extended camera shots of the girls' butts and groins as they perform provocative, sexualized dance routines. The director's choice to go beyond visual necessity, and compel the film's audience to ogle the girls, is wholly unethical.

Additionally, it was a purposeful decision by Netflix executives to utilize the sexual exploitation of children in the marketing of the film. The American poster, unlike its French counterpart, shows the girls in their skimpiest outfits while in dramatic, adult poses. The trailer, edited by Netflix, portrays the film as an inspiring story of liberation, with none of the anti-sexualization themes found in the full-length feature. The Netflix brand has become synonymous with the promotion of children as sex objects.

Besides the immense pushback Cuties has received from the American public, its distribution may also come under review by the Justice Department. Multiple members of Congress have separately sent letters to the U.S. Attorney General asking, in the words of Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX), whether the "filming and production of 'Cuties' violated any federal laws against the production and distribution of child pornography." The possibility of legal consequences has already been described as a baseless overreaction.

What today's culture warriors don't realize is that they've already settled into battle lines drawn over thirty years ago.

Robert Mapplethorpe was a photographer who specialized in black-and-white images and was known for including risqué elements of the underground gay sex scene into his work. In 1988, with the assistance of the Institute of Contemporary Art at the University of Pennsylvania, he coordinated a new exhibit entitled "The Perfect Moment." It was partially funded by a $30,000 grant from the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA), a government agency founded in 1965 to provide financial support to American art initiatives. It was the last show he organized before his death in March 1989 of AIDS. He was 42 years old.

"The Perfect Moment" was composed of 175 photographs, most ranging from celebrity portraits to flowers. Seven of the photos, however, gained infamy in public life as particularly obscene. Five of them, dubbed the "X-Portfolio," featured homosexual and sadomasochistic behavior and acts. The two others, titled "Jesse McBride" and "Rosie," were of exposed children. The first was of an eight-year-old boy, sitting on an overstuffed chair in the nude. The second was of a three-year old girl in a dress sitting on a bench outdoors; her right leg is propped up, making her vagina fully visible.

When arch-conservative Senator Jesse Helms of North Carolina became aware of the exhibition, which was set to be showcased at the Corcoran Gallery of Art in Washington D.C., he went on a crusade against indecency. Helms photocopied pictures of the photographs and distributed them to other members of Congress in folders marked "personal and confidential." Over one hundred signatures were collected by congressmen who were outraged that the exhibit had received NEA funding.

Under scrutiny from both Congress and the public, the Corcoran Gallery cancelled the exhibit three weeks before opening day. The artist community and gay rights groups were infuriated. They organized a 900-person protest outside the Corcoran and used high-powered projectors to cast fifty-foot enlargements of Mapplethorpe's photographs over the side of the building. The crowd applauded and whistled as giant pictures of children's genitals overlooked 17th street.

Later that summer, Jesse Helms introduced an amendment to an appropriations bill stipulating that no federal money would be used to "promote, disseminate, or produce obscene or indecent materials, including but not limited to depictions of sadomasochism, homoeroticism, the exploitation of children, or individuals engaged in sex acts." Passed in 1990 with toned-down language, the "obscenity" clause remains in force today.

Artists, bohemians, and counter-culture enthusiasts objected that Helms was motivated only by bigotry, a homophobe possessed of a small mind that sought to censor art and limit freedom of expression.

"I do not propose that Congress censor artists," the senator insisted. "I do propose that Congress put an end to the use of federal funds to support outrageous 'art' that is clearly designed to poison our culture. Those who insist on producing such garbage should be required to do it on their own time and with their own money. Taxpayers should not be required to pay for it."

"Mapplethorpe was a talented photographer. He took some good photographs," Helms conceded. "But the ones we are talking about, and the ones we have been talking about, are pictures that deliberately promoted homosexuality and child molestation, and other activities that I cannot even discuss on the floor of the Senate."

Rep. Bob Dornan of California was less polite in his characterization. "Robert Mapplethorpe took pictures of little children He was a child pornographer. He lived his homosexual, erotic lifestyle and died horribly of AIDS," the Congressman said.

The authorities of Cincinnati, Ohio certainly agreed. In April 1990, when "The Perfect Moment" was mounted at the city's Contemporary Arts Center, both the museum and its director were charged with pandering obscenity and child pornography. It marked the first criminal prosecution of a museum for one of its exhibits in U.S. history. That fall, following a ten-day trial, a Cincinnati jury acquitted the center of all charges.

But that wasn't the end of litigation. In 2014, Mark Bolles was arrested in Texas for viewing pictures of nude children on a public library computer. A search of his phone revealed an image of Mapplethorpe's "Rosie," and a second cropped image that was zoomed in on the three-year old's vagina. Bolles was convicted of possessing child pornography and was sentenced to two years in prison; a decision later upheld by the Texas court of criminal appeals.

Today, Mapplethorpe and his photographs have become martyrs for the anti-bourgeois. The Washington Post , for instance, has waged a thirty-year campaign celebrating Mapplethorpe against what it sees as provincial and prudish conservatives. In 2016 the Post called the protest outside the Corcoran "dazzling" and "stunning," while last year it lovingly described Mapplethorpe's photographs as "innocent" and "childlike." So when the corporate press defends Cuties by labeling its critics " scandal-mongers " who are " terrified of child sexuality ," it's all within the same pattern of behavior.

"There is in the professional art world a sentimental attachment to the idea that art is at its best when it is most extreme and disruptive," wrote Hilton Kramer, chief art critic of the New York Times , in 1989. "In lieu of an authentic avant-garde in art, we now have something else -- that famous 'cutting edge' that looks more and more to an extra-artistic content for its fundamental raison-d'etre."

The same problem continues today. "A lot of times, unfortunately, I think people get lost in thinking something's art and they don't realize how inappropriate it is," commented Grace Randolph, film critic and entertainment journalist, regarding Cuties . "I feel like a lot of times critics, artists, they get so lost in pushing the edge of the envelope."

The art establishment must stop viewing itself as separate from, or even above, the respectable standards of our society. "Controversial" and "offensive" cannot continue to be synonyms for "good art." When people defend Mapplethorpe's photographs of children, or the marketing of Cuties , they step too closely to the cinematic line of Jack Nicholson's Joker in defense of his own cruelty: "I make art until someone dies."

Hunter DeRensis is Assistant Editor at the Libertarian Institute and a regular contributor to The American Conservative. You can follow him on Twitter @HunterDeRensis .

[Sep 23, 2020] Virgin Islands AG demands ENTIRETY of Epstein flight logs, 'sparking panic' among wealthy passengers

Notable quotes:
"... Passenger logs for Epstein's four helicopters and three planes have been subpoenaed by Virgin Islands AG Denise George, who recently sued the disgraced financier's estate for 22 counts including human trafficking, child abuse, neglect, prostitution, aggravated rape, and forced labor, according to a Sunday report by the UK Mirror. ..."
"... Epstein pilot David Rodgers previously provided a passenger log in 2009 tying dozens of politicians, actors, and other celebrities to the infamous sex offender – including former US President Bill Clinton, actor Kevin Spacey, and model Naomi Campbell. ..."
"... George has also subpoenaed more than 10 banks – including JPMorgan, Citibank, and Deutsche Bank – in her quest to get to the bottom of the financial edifice Epstein built up before he died. The financial institutions have been ordered to submit documents related to some 30 corporations, trusts, and nonprofit entities tied to the predatory playboy. ..."
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VIRGIN ISLANDS AG DEMANDS ENTIRETY OF EPSTEIN FLIGHT LOGS, 'SPARKING PANIC' AMONG WEALTHY PASSENGERS Published: September 22, 2020
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The US Virgin Islands Attorney General has subpoenaed 21 years' worth of deceased pedophile Jeffrey Epstein's flight logs, reportedly striking fear in the hearts of high-profile passengers not yet exposed as Lolita Express riders.

Passenger logs for Epstein's four helicopters and three planes have been subpoenaed by Virgin Islands AG Denise George, who recently sued the disgraced financier's estate for 22 counts including human trafficking, child abuse, neglect, prostitution, aggravated rape, and forced labor, according to a Sunday report by the UK Mirror.

In addition to the passenger lists, George has requisitioned " complaints or reports of potentially suspicious conduct " and any " personal notes " the pilots made while flying Epstein's alleged harem of underage girls around the world. She also wants the names and contact information of anyone who worked for the pilots – or who " integrated with or observed " Epstein and his passengers.

Epstein pilot David Rodgers previously provided a passenger log in 2009 tying dozens of politicians, actors, and other celebrities to the infamous sex offender – including former US President Bill Clinton, actor Kevin Spacey, and model Naomi Campbell.

However, lawyers for Epstein's alleged victims have argued that list did not include flights by Epstein's chief pilot, Larry Visoski, who allegedly worked for him for over 25 years.

" The records that have been subpoenaed will make the ones Rodgers provided look like a Post-It note ," a source told the Mirror over the weekend, claiming that George's subpoena had triggered a " panic among many of the rich and famous. "

Epstein's private plane, nicknamed the Lolita Express, counted among its passengers such luminaries as the UK's Prince Andrew, celebrity lawyer Alan Dershowitz, actor Chris Tucker, Harvard economist Larry Summers, Hyatt hotel mogul Tom Pritzker, and model agency manager Jean-Luc Brunel along with Campbell, Spacey, and Clinton (who the logs show flew with Epstein over two dozen times). However, the passengers who enjoyed his other aircraft have not been made public – yet.

George has also subpoenaed more than 10 banks – including JPMorgan, Citibank, and Deutsche Bank – in her quest to get to the bottom of the financial edifice Epstein built up before he died. The financial institutions have been ordered to submit documents related to some 30 corporations, trusts, and nonprofit entities tied to the predatory playboy.

Epstein supposedly committed suicide last year in a Manhattan jail facility, while his accused madam Ghislaine Maxwell remains imprisoned in a Brooklyn detention center awaiting trial on charges related to child trafficking and perjury after her arrest earlier this year. Maxwell's lawyers have struggled to keep documents introduced as part of a recent defamation suit by one of Epstein's alleged victims under seal, insisting the information would deny her a fair trial.

[Aug 23, 2020] Private Equity Billionaire Leon Black To Receive Subpoena Over Decades-Long Relationship With Jeffrey Epstein -

Aug 23, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Private Equity Billionaire Leon Black To Receive Subpoena Over Decades-Long Relationship With Jeffrey Epstein by Tyler Durden Sun, 08/23/2020 - 16:50 Twitter Facebook Reddit Email Print

Officials in the US Virgin Islands plan to subpoena billionaire investor Leon Black over his decades-long relationship with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, according to the New York Times .

Epstein served as a director on the Leon Black Family Foundation for over a decade, while the pedophile accepted a $10 million donation for his Gratitude America foundation from Black's "BV70 LLC" charity.

Meanwhile, after Epstein got out of prison for pedophilia , Black met with the financier at his company's New York offices. Black also dispatched Apollo co-founder Marc Rowan to attend a meeting at Epstein's Manhattan mansion with representatives of Edmond de Rothschild Group to discuss how the two firms could work together more closely, people with knowledge of the meeting told Bloomberg in July, 2019.

On Thursday, US Virgin Islands attorney general Denise N. George notified a local court that she would issue civil subpoenas to Black, founder of Apollo Global Management, as well as several entities he's tied to, according to the chief clerk of the court.

The subpoenas, copies of which were filed with the court, seek financial statements and tax returns for a number of entities , including Black Family Partners and Elysium Management, which oversee some of Mr. Black's $9 billion fortune. Subpoenas will also go to Apollo and entities that help manage Mr. Black's extensive art collection.

Mr. Black has said Mr. Epstein provided him with advice on tax strategy, estate planning and philanthropy, but has provided no details. A representative for Mr. Black said the financier had no further comment.

Mr. Black and his companies paid millions in fees to Southern Trust Company , which Mr. Epstein set up in the Virgin Islands in 2013 , according to three people briefed on the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly. - New York Times

According to territorial officials, Epstein claimed that Southern Trust was creating a DNA data-mining service, and would have a "financial arm." It collected $184 million in fees from 2013 - 2018, though the Times notes that it is unclear how much of that came from Black - who claims Epstein did no work for Apollo.

Some of the firms about to receive subpoenas include companies which Black has used to build a staggering art collection which includes works by Pablo Picasso, Edgar Degas and Henri Matisse.

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The requests represent a significant step in Ms. George's efforts to unravel the mystery of how Mr. Epstein amassed an estate valued at more than $600 million. They are part of a civil forfeiture suit she filed against his estate in January, claiming Mr. Epstein had misled government officials in the Virgin Islands to secure lucrative tax breaks for his businesses while engaging in sex trafficking and the abuse of underage girls.

Ms. George has also sent subpoenas to banks that handled Mr. Epstein's money, including JPMorgan Chase and Deutsche Bank . Some of the payment information involving Mr. Black surfaced during a review by Deutsche Bank, according to one of the people briefed on the matter. Deutsche Bank recently reached a settlement with regulators in New York who found the bank had done little to vet Mr. Epstein's financial dealings. - New York Times

Black claims that he was "completely unaware" of Epstein's alleged sex-trafficking ring.

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[Aug 22, 2020] Trump, Clinton and Epstein VIP brothel

No mention of Sheldon
Aug 22, 2020 | www.unz.com

Stan d Mute , says: August 21, 2020 at 1:05 pm GMT

@Thomasina ent-text">

I highly doubt it. Little girls wouldn't be Trump's style. He likes flashy women, tall, arm candy.

Clinton? Oh, yeah, he'd be in there. He's sleazier.

Trump was born rich and handsome, he never had any problem getting laid. Clinton was poor, but handsome and smart – he used Epstein for the private jet, the flashy friends, etc. I'd be very surprised if either one of them was drawn into Epstein's mossad honey-pot.

Epstein's targets were the powerful men who were neither rich enough nor handsome enough to have a shadow of a hope for nailing the high school cheerleaders. Guys very much like Epstein himself or his patrons like Wexner or Dershowitz.

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Roderick Spode , says: August 21, 2020 at 2:45 pm GMT
@Thomasina

Yeah, Trump's completely uncompromised by Israel, which is why he's been a Zionist dream president while shirking nearly all of his campaign promises to actual Americans.

Curmudgeon , says: August 21, 2020 at 3:52 pm GMT
@Roderick Spode

You mean the guy that banned Epstein from his resort and the only one to have helped the accusers with their lawsuit against Epstein?

[Aug 20, 2020] 'Can't make this up'- Photos of Bill Clinton being MASSAGED by Epstein 'sex slave' surface just in time for Dem convention speech

Did Bill slept with Maxwell? You can expect anything from this sex addict...
Notable quotes:
"... During a fueling stop at a small airport in Portugal, Epstein confidante Ghislaine Maxwell urged Davies to give the former president a massage. ..."
Aug 20, 2020 | www.rt.com

As if it weren't awkward enough for the party that bills itself as a defender of women to feature Bill Clinton at its convention, photos of the ex-president with one of Jeffrey Epstein's victims surfaced on the day of his speech.

The UK's Daily Mail published exclusive pictures on Tuesday showing Clinton receiving a massage in 2002 from 22-year-old Chauntae Davies, who was allegedly raped by billionaire Epstein repeatedly over a period of four years. The massage occurred while Clinton, along with actors Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker, flew with Epstein on the pedophile's infamous private jet, nicknamed the Lolita Express, on a humanitarian trip to Africa.

According to the newspaper, Clinton complained of having a stiff neck after falling asleep on the plane. During a fueling stop at a small airport in Portugal, Epstein confidante Ghislaine Maxwell urged Davies to give the former president a massage. Clinton, who was 56 at the time, then allegedly said to Davies, "Would you mind giving it a crack?" The photos show Davies massaging Clinton's neck and shoulders as he leans back in his seat at what looks to be a small airport lounge.

Davies, who worked for Epstein as a masseuse, said Clinton was a "perfect gentleman during the trip and I saw absolutely no foul play involving him."

ALSO ON RT.COM Bill Clinton hung out with Epstein because of affair with late financier's madame Maxwell, new book alleges

Nevertheless, the images serve as an untimely reminder of the many sexual misconduct allegations made against Clinton during his years in politics and of his relationship with Epstein, a convicted sex offender who allegedly killed himself last year at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York while awaiting trial on new sex trafficking charges.

A Clinton spokesman has said the former president knew nothing about Epstein's crimes and flew on the financier's jet only four times, but flight logs showed that he traveled on the plane dozens of times in 2002 and 2003. Davies and other alleged victims said in a 2020 Netflix documentary on Epstein that he had secret surveillance cameras at his properties to gather blackmail-worthy dirt on his powerful friends.

"The question is, why were they taking pictures of Bill Clinton receiving a massage?" UK journalist Paul Joseph Watson said on Tuesday on Twitter. "And we already know the answer."

The Daily Mail didn't say where it obtained the exclusive photos. Maxwell is currently in jail in New York awaiting trial on charges that she facilitated Epstein's abuse of girls as young as 14.

ALSO ON RT.COM Clintons & Obamas headline DNC speaker list, showing Democrats gazing backward not forward

Other Twitter users suggested that far more incriminating pictures are being held back. "Epstein took pics and videos of everything, and the FBI has it all," one said. Another said: "If they took pictures of this, there are most definitely worse things recorded just waiting to come out against people."

Others said Clinton should be kept away from the Democratic National Convention, including one who tweeted: "Bruh, no way they can let this man speak tonight." Another said: "And this guy is headlining the DNC tonight. Can't make this up."

[Aug 02, 2020] Wexner and Epstein helped move CIA's Southern Air Transport to Ohio to handle business out of HK in mid 90's

Aug 02, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Kay Fabe , Aug 1 2020 10:59 utc | 91

Nemesiscalling@77

Trump is clean. Well, after laundering so much money for Russian/israeli mafia , yeah, maybe.

He has known and palled around with Epstein since Epstein was with Bear Stearns in 1978 , being hired after his stint at Dalton School where he taught Ace Greensbergs daughter.

Barrs father hired Epstein to teach at Dalton School in 1974 despite him only having a HS degree. Barr Jr. was working at CIA at the time.

Trumps mentor was a homosexual named Roy Cohn who also ran a sex ring to entrap people, prostitutes included young boys at parties held in his suite at the Plaza Hotel. After Roy died in 1986 of AIDS , Trump bought the Plaza Hotel in 1988 and held his own parties, the nature of which are unknown.

Clinton was attracted to girls like Monica , but who knows, maybe he found younger girls hot too. When Donald Trump was watching his 16-year-old daughter Ivanka host the 1997 Miss Teen USA pageant, he turned to the then-Miss Universe and asked: "Don't you think my daughter's hot? She's hot, right?"

Epstein had a falling out with Trump over a real estate deal in Palm Beach. From some accounts he tried to trap Trump but got caught. Trump knew what is MO was. Shortly after that he gets charged. Trump had his own plane and his own property. I doubt he ever needed to go to the island to sample Epstein's product, unlike Clinton. Besides he knew what Epstein was up too, knowing Robert and Ghislaine Maxwell like he did before Clinton even ran for President

Its curious , Trump, Kushners and Epstein all did their banking at Deutsche Bank, famous for laundering Russian money and playing fast and loose with banking regulations. Deutsche Banks largest shareholder is Chinese. Trump and Kushners personal wealth manager Rosemary worked for Epsteins wealth manager at Deutsche (he hired her) who committed suicide a couple month after Epstein. Deutsche Bank , being sued by shareholders for not being careful enough dealing with their wealthy clients. That trial may have lead to Trump/Kushner transactions.

So a guy who used to work for Kroll Moscow kills the judges son. Then suiciding himself. Kroll was in charge of security for WTC and was owned by AIG. Deutsche Bank incidentally was the bank that placed PUTS on AA and UA and was connected to Buzzy Krongard at the CIA , which was connected to Kroll. Deutsche Bank had bought Bankers Trust while Krongard was there , and it was this arm of Deutsche Bank that placed the PUTS.

Trumps AG Barr says he will investigate the murder. Its curious that Barr was counselor of the law firm that handled Epsteins case and negotiated the sweet heart deal in 2008. The guy signing off on the deal was Acosta who then joins the Trump team in 2017

Looking at Barr again. Barrs father hired Epstein in 1974 with his HS degree to teach at Dalton School while he is at CIA. One of his students was Bear Stearns CEO daughter. Ace Greenberg was the head of Bear Stearns, and friend of Trump, and hires Epstein in 1978.

Barr and the Clintons reportedly go way back to when Clinton was providing protection for Bushs Iran-Contra Operation run out of a AK .

Lets look closer at Trumps Barr. He was counsel for the law firm representing Epstein in 2008, not to mention working for law firms handling CIA's Southern Air Transport (Wexner and Epstein helped them move to Ohio to handle business out of HK in mid 90's) and the head of a BCCI connected US bank in the 80's (First General) that the Clinton/Bush backer Stevens attempted to buy on behalf of BCCI. Stevens ran Systematics and used and distributed the backdoored PROMIS and also hired Foster and Hillary's law firm, and no doubt was a key to laundering the drug money out of Mena using Clintons bond program set up for that purpose

Last time Barr was AG under Bush Sr. lots of guys were getting snuffed out and investigations slowed , stonewalled or stopped (BCCI, Inslaw. Iran-Contra).

The same year that Casolaro died for investigating the Octopus, there were several other suspicious deaths involving people directly connected to the Promis scandal or involved in Casolaro's investigation of "the Octopus" -- including Alan Standorf, one of Casolaro's sources; Robert Maxwell, father of Ghislaine Maxwell, Mossad operative, and salesman of the bugged Promis software; and John Tower -- the former Texas senator who assisted Maxwell in selling the bugged Promis software to the Los Alamos laboratories, and John Heinz, senator of PA

John Heinz chaired a three-man presidential review board that probed the Iran-Contra affair and had in his possession all the damning documents from that affair, while John Tower led the infamous Tower Commission that investigated a variety of different CIA criminal activities and dirty dealings and was working on a tell all book. John Heinz and John Tower died in plane wrecks on successive days in 1991 – Tower in Georgia, and Heinz in Montgomery County, Pa. John Kerry then marries Heinz widow, a reward perhaps for his role in the coverup of Bush crimes.

Craig Spence, after his trafficking and exploitation of minors was exposed, died under mysterious circumstances on 11/11/89. His death was quickly labeled a suicide, not unlike Jeffrey Epstein's. This was the first year of the Bush administration with Barr working at the Justice Department

Barr also advised Bush on stonewalling investigations of the CIA when Bush was CIA Director in the 70's following his stint in China. It was Bush who began the privatization of the CIA operations after Carter came in and pushed him out and then purged much of the CIA. He formalized this privatization as VP under Reagan when Barr mysteriously returns to his side and entities like the CIA front NED were created.

Maybe I am making Barr out to be more than he was but he was connected with so much stuff. He actually signed off on spying on Americans telephone calls (international) as Bush's AG before leaving and working for telecom industry before retiring from Verizon in 2009. So no doubt he was involved in the domestic surveillance that was ramped up after 9/11.

By 1993, after Billy Barr leaves as AG, prosecutors in Illinois and New York who had spent years investigating Hoffenberg's Towers Financial were able to proceed. In front of a grand jury in Chicago, federal prosecutor Edward Kohler walked Hoffenberg, who had just agreed to cooperate with the government, through the design of the scam. In the narrative Kohler laid out, Epstein was the technical wizard who kept the money moving around to support Hoffenberg's various schemes.

Epstein was never charged. Curiously Rudy Giuliani was the attorney for Towers Financial

Food for thought, yah think? Or maybe people cant think anymore,

Clean, yeah right. LOL


Bemildred , Aug 1 2020 11:35 utc | 93

@Kay Fabe | Aug 1 2020 10:59 utc | 961

I think you have Barr about right, but I don't see what you think we are supposed to do about it? I don't remember anybody here much defending him. It's true I don't read long rants much, so there might be some. We do have a few Trumpists here, I think, but given the low quality of the alternatives to Trump, I'm not willing to criticize them.

But your post brought Poppy back to mind, he just runs all through the political fecklessness in this country these last 70 years or so, he brings to mind LBJ too. But anyway, now that Poppy has gone to meet his reward, that got me thinking about the changes that must have take place in his wake. Who is running the governments criminal underground these days, now that Poppy is gone?

Mark2 , Aug 1 2020 11:55 utc | 94

Kay Fabe @ 96
Thank you for that excellent summary of the Epstein, Maxwell racket inc background.
That's MOA At it's best. This entire post is first rate. I in tend to just listen and learn.
It's on thing knowing about the curuption, another thing being able to do something about it !
This is why I beleave the only true politics now is street politics, wheather we like it or not.
There is more now that unites us than devides us. Left Right politics will include a lot of mistrust.
Media misinformation being the deliberate course of that. Along with media self-censorship. Until we resolve that. Civil war is enevitable!

migueljose , Aug 1 2020 13:31 utc | 98

@Kay Fabe96
@Bemildred98
Totally agree with both on Barr. His name burned into my brain around 1999 when I picked up a bombshell book from my local library by Terry Reed: https://www.amazon.com/Compromised-Clinton-Bush-Terry-Reed/dp/1561712493

Reed was a Vietnam vet, Air Force pilot, then recruited into CIA, worked with private companies connected with CIA, then continued to tangle himself into training pilots in Mena AK in the early 80s. The book is an autobio which they always leave a ton of stuff out-- I will when I write mine (LOL)- but Reed tells the story of the Contra cocaine/arms ratline running through Bill Clinton's Arkansas, names names: Barr, HW Bush, Barry Seal, HW's friend Felix (he killed Che)Rodriguez,the drug addled--and involved-- Bush boys (W and Jeb). At one point in his story Barr appears in Arkansas and threatens Clinton.
If anyone can refute this story please do. I have not been able to in over 20 years. The book is hard to get now, very expensive, but might be in some libraries. disappeared from mine.
Here's a youtube clip on him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H01_dY6atfc
Bottom line, my guess is that Reed was like many, ambitious young up and comer who used his position and skills to climb until he found himself in a tangled web: a mafia cell that easily could have snuffed him. Barr, Clintons, Bush's,... they're all players and they play by mafia rules.

miguejose , Aug 1 2020 13:43 utc | 101

Barr...
He's in way deeper than Trump. I suspect that he is connected with the highest levels in the CIA which means the people who want Trump to go away along with the few remaining who think Trump is a useful idiot.
If you watch the mainstream media watch how they portray Barr. My prediction: he will not be harmed.
Bottom line... Trump's "friends" are squirming, moving and re-positioning.

pretzelattack , Aug 1 2020 14:35 utc | 103

when we talk about mena arkansas, don't forget that clinton was kissing reagan's butt on that drug smuggling/terrorist supply network, i don't think he was that addled at that point, so the buck stops with him, being president and making a career of supporting terrorists in central and south america.

NemesisCalling , Aug 1 2020 14:38 utc | 104

@96 key fabe

Let me know when you actually get to any dirt. All I see is innuendo and tying together his acquaintances.

Seems like an awful lot of brain power spent on something unlikely to bear any good fruit. But maybe it just needs more time to ripen.

In the mean time, my comment stands. Trump was probably not engaged in any of that activity involving innocents. His dip into Stormy Daniels is proof enough to me that he has simple taste and worlds apart from the more refined and cultivated taste of whisking minors to secret islands to have your way. /sarc

IMO, he continually seats himself at a different table for elites. His breakup with Epstein probably also follows this logic: Epstein was trying harder and harder things, as elites do, and POTUS probably sought better ties or not to be acquainted with such scum.

Jackrabbit , Aug 1 2020 14:48 utc | 106

Kay Fabe @Aug1 10:59 #96

Truly excellent rebuttal to NemesisCalling and everyone else that thinks that Trump is "looking clean" wrt Epstein.

Trump is not the "populist outsider" that his fans, sycophants, and apologists claim him to be. He's an insider that has been around a long, long time. I see him as more of an opportunist and social climber though. Qualities instilled in him by his over-bearing father. As such, he's an enabler.

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oldhippie , Aug 1 2020 17:50 utc | 127

Multiple posts about Bill Barr's insider status. Don't see one that mentions he was born CIA. His father Donald Barr was OSS and original 1947 CIA. His career move to be an "educator" only meant that he worked in recruitment.

The CIA has factions. We are not privileged to know much about them. Barr's loyalty is more likely with the company than withTrump.

[Aug 02, 2020] Clinton connection to Epstein was not accidental

Notable quotes:
"... Looks like Clinton "dicking (underage) blondes." I am shocked! ..."
Aug 02, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Mao , Aug 1 2020 4:15 utc | 66

In recently unsealed court documents involving dead child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein and his alleged accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell, a woman named Virginia Giuffre, who publicly accused Epstein of sex trafficking, said that she once saw former Democratic President Bill Clinton on Epstein's island with "two young girls" from New York.

In the questioning by lawyer Jack Scarola, Guiffre was asked, "Do you have any recollection of Jeffrey Epstein's specifically telling you that 'Bill Clinton owes me favors?'"

"Yes, I do," Guiffre answered. "It was a laugh though. He would laugh it off. You know, I remember asking Jeffrey what's Bill Clinton doing here [on Epstein's island] kind of thing, and he laughed it off and said well he owes me favors."

https://www.newsweek.com/bill-clinton-went-jeffrey-epsteins-island-2-young-girls-virginia-giuffre-says-1521845


Hoarsewhisperer , Aug 1 2020 5:07 utc | 72

Interesting extract from Xymphora's July 31 blog entry...

Tweet (trappedpatriot):

"So they screwed up bigtime on the redactions for the Ghislaine Maxwell release today. You can literally copy and paste the redacted pages into notepad and read them. Check out document #143 for a great example. #Epstein #Maxwell"

The trick works (I'd like to think it is not a mistake but some direct action by a court employee who is tired of all the lies). From document #143 (a deposition of Maxwell where her lawyer instructs her not to answer most, but not all, questions:
...

I can wait for the Official Version but I'd be interested to hear if any of MoA's resident sleuths have found the copy/paste assertion to be true?

NemesisCalling , Aug 1 2020 5:55 utc | 74

@74 hoarse

Not holding my breath but my ears are perked.

It looks like they highlighted what was to be redacted in adobe instead of scanning redacted documents manually.

Somebody screwed up? Intentionally? Mistrial for Maxwell?

Looks like Clinton "dicking (underage) blondes." I am shocked!

Trump is looking clean and I would have already guessed it with his foray into the porn industry w/ Stormy Daniels. Whereas with paedophiles, it is about power and domination, when you are into a chick like Daniels, you are staying simple and "keeping your cart wheel in worn ruts." (Tao Te Ching)

[Aug 01, 2020] DOJ posted in a format that can be unredacted. Many people have already downloaded over 2400 pages of Epstein files!

Aug 01, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

chubbar , 3 hours ago

ALERT!

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/breaking-documents-released-epstein-case-last-night-contain-redactions-can-unredacted-copying-notepad/

DOJ posted in a format that can be unredacted. Many people have already downloaded over 2400 pages of Epstein files!

New info coming shortly!

[Aug 01, 2020] Unsealed docs say Bill Clinton was on 'pedophile island' w- 'young girls' cite Epstein saying former president 'owed him favor'

Aug 01, 2020 | www.rt.com

Newly unsealed files tied to the Jeffrey Epstein sex-trafficking case imply that former US President Bill Clinton visited the investor's private island along with "young girls," and that the FBI knew well about the minors' abuse.

Comprising hundreds of pages of documents, the trove was released on Thursday night following a judge's order last week to have it unsealed, over the objections of Ghislaine Maxwell, a former girlfriend to Epstein who has recently been charged as an accomplice in his alleged sex-trafficking operation.

ALSO ON RT.COM US judge authorizes release of previously-sealed documents in case of Jeffrey Epstein associate Ghislaine Maxwell

The records stem from a 2015 defamation suit filed by Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre, which was placed under lock and key after the case was settled in 2017, but was recently unsealed, as a result of a lawsuit brought last year by conservative blogger Mike Cernovich and the Miami Herald newspaper.

Among other revelations, the documents indicate that former US president Bill Clinton consorted with "young girls" during at least one visit to Epstein's private resort in the Virgin Islands, where the billionaire was said to host regular "sex orgies."

"When you were present with Jeffery Epstein and Bill Clinton on the island, who else was there?" one witness – presumably Giuffre – was asked during an interview, to which she replied that Epstein, Maxwell, an unidentified woman named "Emmy" and "2 young girls" had been on the island with the former POTUS. The witness did not elaborate on Clinton's interactions with the girls, however.

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The same witness also told her attorney in 2011 that she had overheard Epstein saying that Clinton owed him "favors," but noted she couldn't tell whether he was joking.

"He would laugh it off. You know, I remember asking Jeffrey 'What's Bill Clinton doing here?' and he laughed it off and said 'well he owes me a favor,'" she said. "He never told me what favors they were. I never knew. I didn't know if he was serious."

He told me a long time ago that everyone owes him favors. They're all in each other's pockets.

One of America's top law enforcement agencies was also apparently aware that underage girls were still being abused at Epstein's properties as far back as 2011 – years after he was sentenced for similar crimes in his first criminal case. During her defamation suit, Giuffre said she had provided the FBI a now widely circulated photo of herself and the UK's Prince Andrew – where he is pictured smiling with an arm around her bare waist.

In 2014, moreover, Giuffre contacted the FBI to request evidence they had previously seized from Epstein's residences to aid her civil case, suggesting the bureau had for long been informed of her allegations regarding Epstein and his continued involvement with minor girls.

Home USA News Unsealed docs say Bill Clinton was on 'pedophile island' w/ 'young girls' & cite Epstein saying former president 'owed him favor' 31 Jul, 2020 06:18 Get short URL FILE PHOTO: US Attorney Audrey Strauss speaks at a news conference announcing charges against Ghislaine Maxwell for her role in the sexual exploitation and abuse of minor girls by Jeffrey Epstein. © Reuters / Lucas Jackson 3593 Follow RT on RT Newly unsealed files tied to the Jeffrey Epstein sex-trafficking case imply that former US President Bill Clinton visited the investor's private island along with "young girls," and that the FBI knew well about the minors' abuse.

Comprising hundreds of pages of documents, the trove was released on Thursday night following a judge's order last week to have it unsealed, over the objections of Ghislaine Maxwell, a former girlfriend to Epstein who has recently been charged as an accomplice in his alleged sex-trafficking operation.

ALSO ON RT.COM US judge authorizes release of previously-sealed documents in case of Jeffrey Epstein associate Ghislaine Maxwell

The records stem from a 2015 defamation suit filed by Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre, which was placed under lock and key after the case was settled in 2017, but was recently unsealed, as a result of a lawsuit brought last year by conservative blogger Mike Cernovich and the Miami Herald newspaper.

Among other revelations, the documents indicate that former US president Bill Clinton consorted with "young girls" during at least one visit to Epstein's private resort in the Virgin Islands, where the billionaire was said to host regular "sex orgies."

"When you were present with Jeffery Epstein and Bill Clinton on the island, who else was there?" one witness – presumably Giuffre – was asked during an interview, to which she replied that Epstein, Maxwell, an unidentified woman named "Emmy" and "2 young girls" had been on the island with the former POTUS. The witness did not elaborate on Clinton's interactions with the girls, however.

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The same witness also told her attorney in 2011 that she had overheard Epstein saying that Clinton owed him "favors," but noted she couldn't tell whether he was joking.

"He would laugh it off. You know, I remember asking Jeffrey 'What's Bill Clinton doing here?' and he laughed it off and said 'well he owes me a favor,'" she said. "He never told me what favors they were. I never knew. I didn't know if he was serious."

He told me a long time ago that everyone owes him favors. They're all in each other's pockets.

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One of America's top law enforcement agencies was also apparently aware that underage girls were still being abused at Epstein's properties as far back as 2011 – years after he was sentenced for similar crimes in his first criminal case. During her defamation suit, Giuffre said she had provided the FBI a now widely circulated photo of herself and the UK's Prince Andrew – where he is pictured smiling with an arm around her bare waist.

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In 2014, moreover, Giuffre contacted the FBI to request evidence they had previously seized from Epstein's residences to aid her civil case, suggesting the bureau had for long been informed of her allegations regarding Epstein and his continued involvement with minor girls.

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President Donald Trump also made an appearance in the unsealed papers. However, an associate of Epstein, Juan Alessi, said in an interview that Trump "never" stayed overnight while visiting Epstein's Palm Beach estate, and that he did not receive any "massages" there, as "he's got his own spa." An alleged victim also maintained that while Trump and Epstein were "good friends," Trump made no attempts to "flirt" with her. Home USA News Unsealed docs say Bill Clinton was on 'pedophile island' w/ 'young girls' & cite Epstein saying former president 'owed him favor' 31 Jul, 2020 06:18 Get short URL FILE PHOTO: US Attorney Audrey Strauss speaks at a news conference announcing charges against Ghislaine Maxwell for her role in the sexual exploitation and abuse of minor girls by Jeffrey Epstein. © Reuters / Lucas Jackson 3593 Follow RT on RT Newly unsealed files tied to the Jeffrey Epstein sex-trafficking case imply that former US President Bill Clinton visited the investor's private island along with "young girls," and that the FBI knew well about the minors' abuse.

Comprising hundreds of pages of documents, the trove was released on Thursday night following a judge's order last week to have it unsealed, over the objections of Ghislaine Maxwell, a former girlfriend to Epstein who has recently been charged as an accomplice in his alleged sex-trafficking operation.

ALSO ON RT.COM US judge authorizes release of previously-sealed documents in case of Jeffrey Epstein associate Ghislaine Maxwell

The records stem from a 2015 defamation suit filed by Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre, which was placed under lock and key after the case was settled in 2017, but was recently unsealed, as a result of a lawsuit brought last year by conservative blogger Mike Cernovich and the Miami Herald newspaper.

Among other revelations, the documents indicate that former US president Bill Clinton consorted with "young girls" during at least one visit to Epstein's private resort in the Virgin Islands, where the billionaire was said to host regular "sex orgies."

"When you were present with Jeffery Epstein and Bill Clinton on the island, who else was there?" one witness – presumably Giuffre – was asked during an interview, to which she replied that Epstein, Maxwell, an unidentified woman named "Emmy" and "2 young girls" had been on the island with the former POTUS. The witness did not elaborate on Clinton's interactions with the girls, however.

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The same witness also told her attorney in 2011 that she had overheard Epstein saying that Clinton owed him "favors," but noted she couldn't tell whether he was joking.

"He would laugh it off. You know, I remember asking Jeffrey 'What's Bill Clinton doing here?' and he laughed it off and said 'well he owes me a favor,'" she said. "He never told me what favors they were. I never knew. I didn't know if he was serious."

He told me a long time ago that everyone owes him favors. They're all in each other's pockets.

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One of America's top law enforcement agencies was also apparently aware that underage girls were still being abused at Epstein's properties as far back as 2011 – years after he was sentenced for similar crimes in his first criminal case. During her defamation suit, Giuffre said she had provided the FBI a now widely circulated photo of herself and the UK's Prince Andrew – where he is pictured smiling with an arm around her bare waist.

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In 2014, moreover, Giuffre contacted the FBI to request evidence they had previously seized from Epstein's residences to aid her civil case, suggesting the bureau had for long been informed of her allegations regarding Epstein and his continued involvement with minor girls.

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President Donald Trump also made an appearance in the unsealed papers. However, an associate of Epstein, Juan Alessi, said in an interview that Trump "never" stayed overnight while visiting Epstein's Palm Beach estate, and that he did not receive any "massages" there, as "he's got his own spa." An alleged victim also maintained that while Trump and Epstein were "good friends," Trump made no attempts to "flirt" with her.

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Despite repeatedly insisting he had no ties to Epstein's sex-trafficking ring, legal scholar and former Harvard Law School professor Alan Dershowitz is directly accused in the documents of having "sexual relations" with an underage girl. He is also said to have witnessed "the sexual abuse of many other minors by Epstein and several of Epstein's co-conspirators," and would later help to negotiate an undisclosed immunity deal for himself during Epstein's first criminal case. Home USA News Unsealed docs say Bill Clinton was on 'pedophile island' w/ 'young girls' & cite Epstein saying former president 'owed him favor' 31 Jul, 2020 06:18 Get short URL FILE PHOTO: US Attorney Audrey Strauss speaks at a news conference announcing charges against Ghislaine Maxwell for her role in the sexual exploitation and abuse of minor girls by Jeffrey Epstein. © Reuters / Lucas Jackson 3593 Follow RT on RT Newly unsealed files tied to the Jeffrey Epstein sex-trafficking case imply that former US President Bill Clinton visited the investor's private island along with "young girls," and that the FBI knew well about the minors' abuse.

Comprising hundreds of pages of documents, the trove was released on Thursday night following a judge's order last week to have it unsealed, over the objections of Ghislaine Maxwell, a former girlfriend to Epstein who has recently been charged as an accomplice in his alleged sex-trafficking operation.

ALSO ON RT.COM US judge authorizes release of previously-sealed documents in case of Jeffrey Epstein associate Ghislaine Maxwell

The records stem from a 2015 defamation suit filed by Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre, which was placed under lock and key after the case was settled in 2017, but was recently unsealed, as a result of a lawsuit brought last year by conservative blogger Mike Cernovich and the Miami Herald newspaper.

Among other revelations, the documents indicate that former US president Bill Clinton consorted with "young girls" during at least one visit to Epstein's private resort in the Virgin Islands, where the billionaire was said to host regular "sex orgies."

"When you were present with Jeffery Epstein and Bill Clinton on the island, who else was there?" one witness – presumably Giuffre – was asked during an interview, to which she replied that Epstein, Maxwell, an unidentified woman named "Emmy" and "2 young girls" had been on the island with the former POTUS. The witness did not elaborate on Clinton's interactions with the girls, however.

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The same witness also told her attorney in 2011 that she had overheard Epstein saying that Clinton owed him "favors," but noted she couldn't tell whether he was joking.

"He would laugh it off. You know, I remember asking Jeffrey 'What's Bill Clinton doing here?' and he laughed it off and said 'well he owes me a favor,'" she said. "He never told me what favors they were. I never knew. I didn't know if he was serious."

He told me a long time ago that everyone owes him favors. They're all in each other's pockets.

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One of America's top law enforcement agencies was also apparently aware that underage girls were still being abused at Epstein's properties as far back as 2011 – years after he was sentenced for similar crimes in his first criminal case. During her defamation suit, Giuffre said she had provided the FBI a now widely circulated photo of herself and the UK's Prince Andrew – where he is pictured smiling with an arm around her bare waist.

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In 2014, moreover, Giuffre contacted the FBI to request evidence they had previously seized from Epstein's residences to aid her civil case, suggesting the bureau had for long been informed of her allegations regarding Epstein and his continued involvement with minor girls.

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President Donald Trump also made an appearance in the unsealed papers. However, an associate of Epstein, Juan Alessi, said in an interview that Trump "never" stayed overnight while visiting Epstein's Palm Beach estate, and that he did not receive any "massages" there, as "he's got his own spa." An alleged victim also maintained that while Trump and Epstein were "good friends," Trump made no attempts to "flirt" with her.

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Despite repeatedly insisting he had no ties to Epstein's sex-trafficking ring, legal scholar and former Harvard Law School professor Alan Dershowitz is directly accused in the documents of having "sexual relations" with an underage girl. He is also said to have witnessed "the sexual abuse of many other minors by Epstein and several of Epstein's co-conspirators," and would later help to negotiate an undisclosed immunity deal for himself during Epstein's first criminal case.

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More than 1,000 pages of documents from Giuffre's civil defamation case had previously been released in August 2019, indicating that a long list of wealthy and powerful figures regularly spent time with Epstein at his lavish properties. One day after that trove was unsealed, Epstein was found hanging in his Manhattan prison cell, dead from an apparent suicide after being charged with sex trafficking and imprisoned some weeks previously.

Maxwell was arrested and charged with procuring minors for sexual abuse earlier this month, after keeping a low profile in the period following Epstein's death. She has pleaded not guilty to six criminal counts and remains in custody without bail, after prosecutors had labeled her an "extreme" flight risk.

[Jul 31, 2020] Here Are The Top Highlights From Ghislaine Maxwell's Unsealed Court Records

Notable quotes:
"... Epstein was a Mosad Operation run by the Mega Group. ..."
"... These allegations are shocking, bombshell, ghastly, and just about any other adjective that could possibly describe a once-in-a-lifetime event of such wide-reaching and horrific proportions. Yet the mainstream media is completely silent at this time. This doesn't make any sense. Is this because the owners of the mainstream media are also complicit in a giant pedophilia conspiracy? I am struggling to come to terms with the deafening silence of the mainstream media. But, it's the only explanation that makes sense going forward. ..."
"... Let me guess how many inside the MSM made trips to Pedo Island? Yes, that would explain their silence as you suggest. ..."
"... The CIA runs American Media, ever since the ban on propaganda was lifted in 2012. ..."
Jul 31, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Dozens of exhibits related to Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein were unsealed Thursday evening , providing insight into allegations against the financier and his purported 'madam,' as well as other high-profile individuals, including Bill Clinton, Alan Dershowitz and several other people whose names one can only guess (and the internet has).

The documents, related to a 2015 civil defamation lawsuit against Maxwell by Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre, were ordered to be released on July 23 by US District Judge Loretta Preska - which also included flight logs from Epstein's private jets , as well as police reports from the multiple locations where Epstein maintained residences.

Among the findings:

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Bill Clinton was allegedly on pedo island with '2 young girls'

Sordid details from alleged sexual encounters

... ... ...

The DOJ let free Epstein's co-conspirator's in the FL case.

This included Maxwell and Sarah Kellen.

Here the victim describes the abuse during flights from Epstein, Maxwell, and Kellen. pic.twitter.com/1zF2MELFDw

-- Techno Fog (@Techno_Fog) July 31, 2020

Of course:

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Maxwell was in communication with Epstein in January of 2015 - contradicting her claim that she hadn't been in touch with him in more than a decade .

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Alan Dershowitz is mentioned several times (and has gone to great lengths to defend himself - suggesting on multiple occasions that this very document release would in exonerate him).

NEWS:

This same document appears also to have been released publicly tonight in unredacted form and shows Jane Doe 3 accusing Alan Dershowitz. @CourthouseNews https://t.co/lgTDT2yq88 pic.twitter.com/AyehpGYVBY

-- Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) July 31, 2020

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Dersh defends:

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Epstein accuser(s) allegedly had to have sex with this guy ...

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And former New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson (D)

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Other speculative mentions (redacted): Prince Andrew, Jean Luc Brunel , and more .

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Trump is in the clear ( which we've known for some time ) :

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And some food for thought...

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Check back for more...

Ghost who Walks , 12 hours ago

Whatever happened to Anthony Weiner's Laptop? https://www.redstate.com/stu-in-sd/2020/03/29/about-that-anthony-weiner-laptop%E2%80%A6/

Seems to be a lot of magic happening in the US Justice system with things mysteriously disappearing.

Patmos , 12 hours ago

Yeah, I've long felt they're just going to present a case of supposed "justice" which is in reality just partial justice if you could even call it justice at all.

All the Nazi occult Book of the Dead MK Ultra crap kept under wraps.

Maybe for a good reason, and maybe they're dealing with it behind the scenes, who knows. I'm kind of thinking no, though, that we're just going to get the illusion of justice.

OldAmsterdam , 7 hours ago

Just imagine the amount on influence this pedovore - blackmail ring has had on the lives of each of us individually. It is hard to phantom if you add up everything. The selling of military secrets, the selling of IP, the setting of policies including wars and all that has been the result of those, the misappropriation of public funds and the following self-enrichment of them, the abuse of corrupt parts of the intelligence agencies to crush dissent and achieve their goals, the shaping of public opinion with twisted logic of what is supposed to be the right by corrupting and controlling MSM and pop-culture, the suffering of victims of the criminal networks used to procure their "merchandise", etc

The extent of this whole horrific saga has shaped global human life for at least 2 decades and most likely more. There is hardly a way to grasp the scope of what these power hungry self serving bunch of perverted degenerates have made each global citizen undergo. I agree there is no way we will ever get to know more than perhaps 20% of the story

Feel free to add more.

bigdumbnugly , 6 hours ago

most importantly the blackmailing of lawmakers and supreme court (and lower court) justices.

Putty in their hands.

Accurite , 6 hours ago

I agree, I think it it why Chief Justice Roberts flipped on Obama Care and why he continues to vote with the left. They have stuff on this guy

JimmyJones , 5 hours ago

Looks like the MSM will need another high profile funeral, to distract from this story, their timing was off on this one with Lewis. Who's next?

Edit: so if you get your hands on the orginal PDF's released you can copy and paste the Text into note pad and see what was redacted.

PDFs https://files.catbox.moe/2r05c5.***

Viewing the redactions

https://twitter.com/ShirtlessPundit/status/1289038498238877696?s=19

Question_Mark , 5 hours ago

Roberts needs to find a way to go away forever. he is shaming his family and his friends.

his life is forfeit, and he needs to have the sense to transcend his hell. he should resign and retire.

Pro_sanity , 4 hours ago

Gorsuch too, certainly something going on there too.

Jean Gateau , 1 hour ago

My prediction: Roberts will decide the 2020 Election.

William Dorritt , 6 hours ago

The Compromising Epstein Association with Supreme Court Justice Roberts Is Gaining Momentum and Explains Many of Roberts Mystery Rulings

Submitted by Dave Hodges on Tuesday, July 28, 2020

The Forbes investigation also found that "Kennedy and Scalia wrote the bulk of the conservative dissent, and that dissent was not originally written as a majority opinion. It's that the conservative Justices held Roberts' opinion in such contempt that they did not want to dignify it with a response "

Forbes also mentioned the prominent role that Justice Scalia played in attempting to reign in Roberts on this obvious miscarriage of justice. And what happened to Scalia? He was lured to Texas and was subsequently murdered, or should I say Scalia's body found on a Texas farm known for its child-sex trafficking activities. What's not known was if Scalia was murdered elsewhere and then And let's not forget that Scalia was found with a pillow case over his face and then this devout Catholic was cremated with no autopsy performed in violation of Texas law. Subsequently, the Obama administration never ordered an investigation into the very suspicious death of a senior level official in the government. This behavior was inexcusable and wreaks of coverup.

https://thecommonsenseshow.com/activism-conspiracy-united-states/compromising-epstein-association-supreme-court-justice-roberts-gaining-momentum-and-explains

Question_Mark , 41 minutes ago

Pedophiles are Predators

With the arrest of Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein is back in the news.[1],[2] Allegations that for decades, Maxwell obtained underage girls for Epstein and his high-profile guests to exploit -- for purposes including blackmail -- are widely known. Is blackmail why it took 24 years from the time the FBI knew of the allegations until the arrest? [9] But the problem runs much deeper.

It's a touchy subject. Adults using children and infants for sexual gratification is a repugnant topic. Let's not gloss over it: pedophiles are predators. No just society can excuse the predatory behavior of the sexual deviants who term themselves "child lovers" in a vain hope that society will overlook their cruel -- and sometimes deadly -- abuses. We will not.

The scope of the problem is uncertain, but according to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, some 800,000 children are reported missing each year in the United States -- about 2,000 daily.[3],[4] Estimates vary domestically and internationally, and few reliable statistics are available.[5] We do know that under the Trump administration, law enforcement task forces have increased prosecutions at the state and federal level.[6] The Children's Bureau estimates that the United States had over 678,000 cases of child abuse -- 9 per 1,000 -- in 2018.[7]

Many pedophiles even select careers giving access an endless stream of young victims. These include occupations most would never suspect -- clergy, coaches, counselors, teachers, scout leaders -- those we have trusted with our kids' safety.

But what happens to these babies and kids? Where are they now? What happens when they are "used up"–too physically damaged and psychologically traumatized to satisfy adult perverts?

Does there really exist a black market for child sex slaves? Is there any truth to the allegations that sometimes Child Protective Services, foster care, and Amber Alerts are accessories to these crimes?

Yet a shocking 2005 study showed that 79% of abusers were children's own parents, followed by the parent's unmarried partners. A whopping 40% of child victims (counting all forms of abuse) were abused by their mothers alone, and 17% by both parents. The study found that substance abuse accompanies 70% of child maltreatment cases.[8] Should child abuse prevention efforts focus on solving substance abuse? What about broader social trends that cause dissolution of families?

Parents shouldn't be complacent. Turning a blind eye or downplaying the problem will not save our children. We all need to become more vigilant.

What is child *********** but depictions of abuse? Both those who create, and those who consume, digital depictions of child sex abuse should be severely punished. Demand for the "genre" has surged with the advent of broadband internet.

Sweeping the problem under the rug hasn't worked. We need accurate statistics, education, and public awareness. The solution isn't to normalize perversion, but to prosecute the deviants -- both producers and consumers.

We don't need new laws either. There are plenty of statutes which -- if robustly enforced -- could quickly end the menace of child sex abuse. We need adequate funding for law enforcement to investigate and prosecute the crimes, a commitment to equal justice, transparency, and harsh sentencing for those found guilty of violating the laws of God and mankind.

[1] Ghislaine Maxwell arrest: Armed agents, spy planes used to take down Epstein gal pal, https://nypost.com/2020/07/05/ghislaine-maxwell-arrest-spy-planes-armed-agents-used-in-takedown/

[2] DeutscheBank fined $150M for failure to monitor convicted sex offender Epstein's suspicious payments, https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8498433/Deutsche-Bank-pay-150million-fine-failing-monitor-Jeffrey-Epsteins-suspicious-payments.html

[3] Missing Children in America: Unsolved Cases, ABC News, https://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-children-america-unsolved-cases/story?id=19126967 (2015)

[4] FBI, 2019 NCIC Missing Person and Unidentified Person Statistics, https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/2019-ncic-missing-person-and-unidentified-person-statistics.pdf/view

[5] International Centre for Missing and Exploited Children, Missing Children's Statistics, https://globalmissingkids.org/awareness/missing-children-statistics/

[6] FBI's Op. Kick Boxer leads to arrest of distributors, makers of child sex abuse materials, https://fox6now.com/2020/07/06/fbis-op-kick-boxer-leads-to-arrest-of-distributors-makers-of-child-sex-abuse-materials/

[7] Child Abuse Statistics in the United States, https://www.verywellmind.com/child-abuse-statistics-2633350

[8] Who Are the Perpetrators of Child Abuse?, https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/somatic-psychology/201105/who-are-the-perpetrators-child-abuse

[9] FBI Knew Of Allegations Against Ghislaine Maxwell As Early As 1996, Accuser Says; It Took 24 Years To Arrest Her, https://dailycaller.com/2020/07/02/fbi-ghislaine-maxwell-jeffrey-epstein-maria-farmer/

GreatUncle , 3 hours ago

Not possible to flush the corruption from a 100% corrupt society.

Inevitable end is revolution for a 100% corrupt society (as in the political class) ... for ordinary people it is just going to get a whole lot worse.

Pooper Popper , 10 hours ago

The video is out there,,,,that shows hillary and huma torturing a young girl,,,,and cutting her face off to terrify her.The video i saw didnt show visual,,,but the girls screams will leave stains on your soul...This is what the seasoned detectives had to get therapy about......Andrenochrome!!!

Do the research,,but beware ,,,,its beyond messed up.....its flat out ,,,evil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHpXgtDFnYs

15:45 start.......18:00 ,,,,,,evil,,,,,Pedovore!

bigdumbnugly , 6 hours ago

"Trump is in the clear."

"Donald Trump was aiso a good friend of Jeffreys. He didn't partake in sex with any of us but he flirted with me. He'd laugh and tell Jeffrey, 'You've got the life."

I'm not so sure. He didn't partake - OK..... but if he kind of knew what was going on and didn't report they'll jump all over him for that.

Question_Mark , 4 hours ago

dude he literally ran for and became president to stop it. earth to you, hello?

BaNNeD oN THe RuN , 3 hours ago

LOL - he ran on a lot of things that he didn't do. This was a Mossad political control operation, has their work inside the USA been shut down?

Is it a Cohen-cidence that one of Bibi's political enemies, Ehud Barak is mentioned frequently in the media as a regular visitor? They also have kompromat on Trump, I can guarantee it.

Do you really think he has done what he has for Israel because he believes in their cause?

Pfeffernusse , 3 hours ago

Yet he wishes her well- more like he wishes she would keep her mouth shut

Smiddywesson , 4 hours ago

The pedophiles are all left wingers.

Trump was never on the plane or on the island.

If she thought he was "flirting" with her, I'm not surprised, she was young and obviously had a hard life, and Donald Trump was very charismatic and was a big star back in the day.

They've been trying to pin this **** on Trump for years, and all they have is he attended a party at Epstein's once, and banned Epstein from his club for hitting on the girls. That doesn't sound like "good friends" to me.

Everything that went on in Epstein's NY house was video taped. If you think Trump did anything and they are suppressing the video, you are out of your mind. If they'd frame Trump for colluding with Russians, they'd use the tape to get rid of him.

Ask yourself, how did Donald Trump even come up in this interview? Epstein knew thousands and thousands of people. The answer is the very same people who eventually FRAMED him in an attempted coup, the FBI, were fishing for dirt and brought his name up with the victim.

bigdumbnugly , 4 hours ago

Apparently neither of you two can interpret words or sentences properly.

I didn't say anything about his being involved. I thought that was pretty clear. Well, to most.

The statement was about how he might be attacked by not reporting what he may have known about.

Try again, after remedial reading.

you_are_cleared_hot , 1 hour ago

George W didn't do anything about this...Obama didn't do anything about this nobody seems to be bringing this up in the MSM...just sayin.

55 men , 56 minutes ago

Dont forget Boys town in Nebraska, George Sr was involved....i have a good friend whos cousin was one of the boys involved in that, pretty sad....

geo_synch , 58 minutes ago

Actually, you're wrong there. Court documents showed that Trump was the only person contacted by the DA who volunteered to step forward and cooperate with the investigation back when Epstein was charged back in the early 2000s.

bigdumbnugly , 14 minutes ago

I'm not wrong - and while the rest is true, geo, it doesn't change the narrative that'll come out.

"Why did Trump WAIT until an investigation was started and not whistleblow himself" they'll ask.

"Trump could've saved umpteen hundred young girls from their horrible fates if he did so" they'll say.

You have to think like the opposition. Again, my point is that he is not "cleared" as was stated because he will have to deal with this canard... i can almost guarantee it.

Personally, i do not believe for a minute he'd get himself involved in any kind of thing like Epstein/Maxwell/Mossad was running. Maybe egotistical, but smarter than falling into a widely-known in certain circles honey trap.

Arrow4Truth , 11 hours ago

Reckon it would be easy enough to connect the dots and determine that the "US Justice system" is the problem? DOJ in bed with the black robed cult? They are all in the same "union"... the same club.

fallst , 11 hours ago

no laptop , no videos, no nothing but tawk

1777 , 3 hours ago

The Clean-team®™ has been very busy!

William Dorritt , 6 hours ago

Epstein was a Mosad Operation run by the Mega Group. One of many. Both Epstein and the tapes are safe in Isreal

2 former CIA and 1 former Mosad have said it was a Mosad operation

The FBI, DOJ and Federal Courts have totally collapsed

They can't indict, arrest or prosecute Elite Pedos

The Courts openly run cover for the Pedos

And spend the rest of the time erasing the Bill of Rights

Feudalism is the Destination

Nuremberg Courts and Executions are the Answer

$21 Trillion Missing – U.S. Government a Criminal Enterprise –

Catherine Austin Fitts

By Greg Hunter On October 1, 2017

https://usawatchdog.com/21-trillion-missing-u-s-government-a-criminal-enterprise-catherine-austin-fitts/

The Missing Money – $21 Trillion

in Undocumentable Adjustments and Counting with Dr. Mark Skidmore September 23, 2017

https://home.solari.com/the-missing-money-19-trillion-in-undocumentable-adjustments-and-counting-with-dr-mark-skidmore/

lwilland1012 , 12 hours ago

Comey deserves to ROT in Hell....

Anthraxed , 12 hours ago

Understatement of the year.

NewDarwin , 12 hours ago

He's just a pawn. The powers behind the scenes always have something worse than hell over their agents. That's why the Comey types obey so willingly. The money changers have their protocols of power, Comey has his obedience.

https://www.place4free.com/Downloads/Books/Interesting/ProtocolsOfTheEldersOfZion.pdf

The only way to avoid enslavement is to be self sufficient outside their system of corrupt money.

Max Cynical , 12 hours ago

My take...DOJ and FBI are utterly corrupt and need to be disbanded.

Itchy and Scratchy , 12 hours ago

JFK tried!

Stan Smith , 9 hours ago

It's what got him killed.

Fluff The Cat , 5 hours ago

The main things that got JFK killed were his attempts to end the Rothschilds' Fed money printing scam and his announcement just days prior to his assassination that he was going to reveal the secret plot to overthrow our country from within and enslave every man, woman and child. There's no way for them to have dismissed whatever President JFK said as being a mere "conspiracy theory".

Here's his speech on secret societies. Interesting how when you put in a search for "JFK speech secret societies" on YouTube that they bury it far down the results, because they don't want people to hear it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnkdfFAqsHA

Radioactive Ideas , 3 hours ago

There is little doubt this was one of the great motivations for JFK's killing, but there are others that are equally as plausible. Including the 'shatter them to a million pieces' line. JFK took on THE most powerful and paid the unltimate price.

Blue Snowflake , 2 hours ago

JFK was not trying to dismantle the Fed. The 2 EOs he issued regarding silver certificates were temporary measures to allow the treasury to continue doing what they were already doing until the FED certificates were enacted. So in that sense JFK was helping the FED.

That is true, secret society speech notwithstanding.

sbin , 12 hours ago

DEA NSA CIA all 17 intelligence agencies would be a good start.

Defund the Pentagon should be a thing.

Why such corruption and failure is rewarded is only explained by massive grifting of all involved.

1777 , 3 hours ago

Wouldn't the NSA have ALL of this evidence anyway???

f society , 1 hour ago

Yes, they have it. The NSA could take down the Deep State if they wanted to.

lester1 , 11 hours ago

Republicans want to build a billion dollar new FBI building in the coronavirus stimulus bill. Lol

Fiscal.Enema , 9 hours ago

nobody in D.C. including Trump has the balls to Chop their heads off.

amadeus40 , 5 hours ago

As long as Tribe members connected to MOSAAD reside in the U.S., our nation' government, financial and judicial systems will remain compromised and will be controlled by Israel. Donald Trump is a compromised president and under the control of MOSAAD. His silence and casual comments on the characters of Epstink and Maxstink are damning.

2willies , 12 hours ago

It all makes Nixon look pretty pretty good now.

Max.Power , 11 hours ago

Yeah, all this put many other things in perspective. It may turn out that Trump is the most decent US president of last 30 years. Who would've thought...

bobroonie , 10 hours ago

At the very least Trump is the single most investigated and vetted president in American history...

55 men , 51 minutes ago

And what sucks is, this actually things that should be talked about wiith and delt with but in an hour we will be back to 2nd greatest scam, (FED being the first), corona.

vova.2018 , 5 hours ago

It may turn out that Trump is the most decent US president of last 30 years. Who

Nah - Trump should explain why his name was on Epstein's plane manifest. Trump is friends with Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwel and attended Epstein's kid-rape island 23 times, sometimes with Bill Clinton. Lawsuit Charged Donald Trump with Raping a 13-Year-Old Girl in CA.

Trump and Epstein accused of raping 13-year-old girl in complaint filed with United States District Court for the Southern District
http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=71156

Trump's excuse, he didn't know that the girl(s) were underage & he claims that his encounter with the girls, in 2 occasions with his body Epstein in Lolita Island (1993), was a CIA/Dyncorp operation with 12 low-light cameras.

Trump also claims the Epstain put the girls in the room. This is the kind of dirt that Eptain & Ghislaine Maxwell have on Trump. Is these gossip, fabrication, expostulation or it should be investigated (:

DA Alexander Acosta was the lawyer for Jeffery Epstein for child rapist charges where Trump was on witness list (FL court records). Case dropped in deal. DA Alexander Acosta gave Epstien a sweat heart deal to avoid Trump having to take the stand and face charges.

Anyone with Google can look up Trump involvement with Jeffrey Epstein and his court cases and nomination of Alexander Acosta as Labor Secretary

Trump's ties to Mossad/CIA Pedophile Ring
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/01/28/trumps-ties-to-mossad-cia-pedophile-ring/

Trump not only got skeleton in his closet, he owns the entire cemetery. Trump give the psychopath a bad name

theory , 12 hours ago

AND........
Who was running the FBI at the time........???????

Good old Bob Mueller.......!!!!!!!!!!!!

El Chapo Read , 11 hours ago

That was "out of his purview"

OldAmsterdam , 9 hours ago

It looks like what we know already is finally gonna come out, I would say

sherlocky , 12 hours ago

Exact same operations were run by dome kopfs out of 1920 & 1930's Berlin. khazarian mafia. look up Institut für Sexualwissenschaft run by Magnus (((Hirschfeld))) and many many other such operations

Anthraxed , 12 hours ago

1980's Boys town.

See Franklin scandal.

lwilland1012 , 12 hours ago

Thank you! Now this is something we can agree on!

SassyPants , 6 hours ago

The old folks are just the ones they'll give up. And low level scum.

alexcojones , 12 hours ago

I still don't know WHY she came back??

Makes NO sense at all...

And where is Raz Simone, former King of Chaz Chop?

And is he involved too?

badassassassin , 11 hours ago

back from where and what makes you think she was there

Muppet , 2 hours ago

In my opinion, she is the most powerful in the world right now. She certainly wasn't arrested. She agreed to such props. She's has been, or will be, extremely highly rewarded in exchange, she will follow the buyer wishes. I suspect it will end up being to destroy Trump. Its obvious, she has too many demorat friends, I don't think she'll turn on them, nor is it likely that a conservative bought her. It is most likely a liberal buyer and thus target Trump.

MongoStraight , 12 hours ago

It's hard to believe that Marvin Minsky would have to pay for it.

sbin , 12 hours ago

Sarcasm tag is not needed on that one.

So ugly his mother wouldn't breast feed him.

His hand wants double price.

Only way to have sex was jewish black mail freak paid for by CIA and vile little apartheid government in Palestine.

libtears , 12 hours ago

He'd get laid in Thailand

Things that go bump , 9 hours ago

By an eleven-year-old virgin.

ThePub'Lick_Hare , 1 hour ago

Thailand on NY's 7th Avenue!

Librarian , 12 hours ago

These allegations are shocking, bombshell, ghastly, and just about any other adjective that could possibly describe a once-in-a-lifetime event of such wide-reaching and horrific proportions. Yet the mainstream media is completely silent at this time. This doesn't make any sense. Is this because the owners of the mainstream media are also complicit in a giant pedophilia conspiracy? I am struggling to come to terms with the deafening silence of the mainstream media. But, it's the only explanation that makes sense going forward.

Our major news sources seem to be compromised. Those in charge of our major media who decide what is "news" are also very likely the most depraved type of criminals imagineable.

There needs to be investigations. There needs to be trails.

Sid Davis , 12 hours ago

Let me guess how many inside the MSM made trips to Pedo Island? Yes, that would explain their silence as you suggest.

Another thing that would explain their silence is some big leftists names need protecting, and given this is election time, what big name Democrats are running.

I wonder if Pedo Island had a booth where little girls sat so that someone could lean over and sniff their freshly washed hair.

libtears , 12 hours ago

We know why Bill And Hillary were there.

SassyPants , 6 hours ago

And which Republicans are making a big deal about this? Same silence on both sides. Republicans are not pure as the snow, just because you want to believe.

Justapleb , 12 hours ago

The CIA runs American Media, ever since the ban on propaganda was lifted in 2012.

Fiscal Reality , 12 hours ago

Yawn. Wake me up when someone is in handcuffs. Like Pedo Slick Willy, Cankles, Dersh or Kevin Spacey. Until then, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

sbin , 12 hours ago

Will never happen.

WaterWings , 4 hours ago

Probably the most important comment on this board. Elections really don't matter anymore. FBI corruption tells you we are at the point of Revolution again.

Iskiab , 12 hours ago

It really makes you think. I'm starting to think most of the political elites are sociopaths.

cryptoligarch , 10 hours ago

What you and everyone reading this should know and prepare for is this... They will say and do anything even in the face of humiliation and zero credibility. But they will not leave until physical force is applied. Even with that, it will only be the beginning of a real struggle for us as honorable humans.

Stan Smith , 9 hours ago

If you think about it remotely logically, you have to have a certain kind of mindset to be a career politician. And it'd be hard to argue that being a sociopath isn't part of that.

Seasmoke , 11 hours ago

This country is an absolute cesspool. The People were lazy & allowed the Tribe to tear The Republic to shreds. And Comey and the FBI should hang first before all the degenerates. Absolutely Treasonous!!!!

OldAmsterdam , 9 hours ago

The US plays a big part but this is a global story, US prominence is to be expected because of its prominence on the world stage.

SassyPants , 6 hours ago

Or maybe people from other countries just aren't as sick as American politicians.

Dr. Bonzo , 10 hours ago

See? Pizzagate was just conspiracy fantasy. Nothing to see here, folks. Russiagate was real though!

Think about this... the entire apparatus of the mainstream media.... tens of THOUSANDS of folks... conspired to repress information about organized pedophilia among top politicians and key business leaders... and attempt to undermine and overthrow a sitting US president. Now they support a Marxist insurrection.

The Twilight Zone has NOTHING on reality. NOTHING....................... Surreal doesn't BEGIN to sum it up.

bobroonie , 10 hours ago

Yup...

From:* Trudy Vincent [ mailto:[email protected] ] >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 08, 2015 11:45 AM

CC: John Podesta (and others)

And I thought I'd share a couple more notes: >> We plan to heat the pool, so a swim is a possibility. Bonnie will be >> Uber Service to transport Ruby, Emerson, and Maeve Luzzatto (11, 9, and >> almost 7) so you'll have some further entertainment, and they will be in >> that pool for sure. And with the forecast showing prospects of some sun, >> and a cooler temp of lower 60s, I suggest you bring sweaters of whatever >> attire will enable us to use our outdoor table with a pergola overhead so >> we dine al fresco (and ideally not al-CHILLo).

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/46736

cankles' server , 7 hours ago

Does anyone think the firing last month of the SDNY prosecutor is a coincidence? A week later they arrest Maxwell.

That's the office that has the Weiner laptop, the holy grail of criminal evidence.

philipat , 8 hours ago

Let the horse trading begin! Andrew will be OK after the UK agreed to cut off Huawei from its 5G network and some other concessions probably leading to a grossly (US) one-sided FTA.

The others? Depends who has what and who needs what in return, which is what Epstein was all about all along.

Nothing new here, just the same old depravity and corruption among the "Elites". Lovely people aren't they?

Luc X. Ifer , 4 hours ago

Ghislaine is still breathing ...

neidermeyer , 3 hours ago

Disagree with the UK assessment ,, the entire royal family is going down... but the trade agreements will be fair as we need England to be an example for the rest of the EU states to see that they can emerge in good shape.

thetruthhurts , 3 hours ago

Well now we know what Hillary Clinton meant when she said if that SOB wins we'll all hang. And we also know why England the UK was so anxious to be part of the conspiracy against President Trump. To protect the prince. Brings new word to the vocabulary "Dalley Ho"

thetruthhurts , 3 hours ago

Well now we know what Hillary Clinton meant when she said if that SOB wins we'll all hang. And we also know why England the UK was so anxious to be part of the conspiracy against President Trump. To protect the prince. Brings new word to the vocabulary "Dalley Ho"

Know thy enemy , 9 hours ago

C'mon, Bill Clinton at Epstein Island is old hat, let's have the Vaccinator-in-Chief, Bill Gates explain what he was doing with Epstein, on his island, home in New York, etc.... Inquiring minds want to know more....

SassyPants , 6 hours ago

There will be no new names. Those people can still be used.

Zionism_is_racism , 9 hours ago

Where are all the feminazis? We have a war against men from the women who hate men. Shouldn't they rally since their minor sisters were raped by old white men and old chosenites?

... ... ...

Zionism_is_racism , 9 hours ago

His wife helped GM find girls? I will have to look that one up because that would be a major point on CNN hate Trump network. Pander masters in Tel Aviv? there is tremendous chosenite political power here in the US, so it's like a mine field.

We didn't have a major war, with your Clinton II we would have had a major war for Israel. Looks like Orange man is slowly but surely decreasing exposure to the Middle East, NATO and Afghanistan, the political pressure from your congressman and senator is something he must deal with. So he has done real good if you ask me, again your choice would have been more war and Biden means More Wars for Israel.

Are you registered to vote?

MadHatt , 5 hours ago

Clinton. Looks like the bible is upside down.

amp.usatoday.com/amp/5322448002

AlphaSnail , 8 hours ago

theres an interview whitney webb conducted with another victim, besides guiffre, in which the victim describes the procurement. if you search well, you will find it. lets not be selective here, we should not cherry pick which witness be believe. there are probably hundreds of others whose testimony we have not heard since the fbi buried it or chose to ignore it. i say again, they are all compromised. vote for whichever pos you care to.

MerLynn , 9 hours ago

It was actually on SDNY's Watch Epstein died and there's where you know nothing about Deep State to ignore this center of democrat corruption

AlphaSnail , 8 hours ago

democrat...republican. i cant tell the difference these days.

STP , 11 hours ago

Timing is everything. Right before the DC recess, starting in August, we've got Barr not guaranteeing that some kind of 'report' is not going to come out before the election. And revealing that a second investigation into the unmasks is ongoing with US Attorney John Bash. Then Trump totally throws a troll bomb tweet about the elections and now this. Many of the most powerful men in the world having their names revealed in a US District Court today. The gloves are off. The other side did all sorts of pre-election hanky spanky and turn about is fair play. The indictments are coming. It would do no good for Trump to wait after the elections to take action. Why bother then? He may not be in office and all of this will be swept under the rug. It has to happen now. All these people will be at home in August. It makes sense to do a nation wide sweep and indict them at home. The indictments are spread far and wide across the country, so that makes sense that they'll be served in their home states and cities. I believe it's coming and coming soon.

Psadie , 11 hours ago

Dershowitz should just off himself...he set up immunity from the govt. Trump's one Secretary resigned over giving Epstein a slap on the hand but it was Dersh who did it all.

Itchy and Scratchy , 12 hours ago

Clinton arranged for Epsteins aircraft to have a government tail number enabling all passengers to avoid standard customs & immigration procedures. The flight logs were strictly at the discretion of the pilots. Doubtful that the truth of who went to the poisonous island will ever be exposed!

baghead , 12 hours ago

The pilot kept logs of the passengers. That's how we know what we know already

ThePub'Lick_Hare , 57 minutes ago

The visual evidence is damning enough - photos, videos, vivid memories of terror.

Equinox7 , 8 hours ago

And all of these crimes NOW come out under the Presidency of Donald J Trump. Its amazing how the Bushs, Clintons, and Obamas just buried the truth. ...

KJ8982 , 12 hours ago

lmao I noticed this too today. They have some serious censorship going on. I wonder if it's due to advertising, or have they been taken over...

Totally_Disillusioned , 11 hours ago

Many of you are all thinking this Epstein thing - human trafficking - will be like watching/reading a bunch of juicy **** with underage girls.

This human trafficking also involves organ harvesting....

AI Agent , 11 hours ago

We live in a sick and wicked world, and the wicked people are winning.

bobroonie , 11 hours ago

"It was the child sacrifices that got to me" Ronald Bernard money launderer and banker for the elite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UpDs4AB9FU

Totally_Disillusioned , 11 hours ago

He gave the interview and then they killed him.

Totally_Disillusioned , 11 hours ago

It appears they are winning. Half of the battle is learning who your enemy is and their behaviors. The other half of the battle is taking it to them...directly to them. they can no longer hide this away. Once the people know, it won't be safe for them to walk down the street.

OldAmsterdam , 9 hours ago

It's a bunch of them sure, but surely not all of them. Just like us most of them are mere cattle for those power hungry supremacist bastards and ignorant of what is going on. Specifying this more will make it easier to spread the story, otherwise you will just be dismissed as a anti-semite.

I reckon all on here know 1 or 2 at the least, are you really of the opinion that they are all part of that evil scheme or just people trying to get by and live their lives like most of us?

It's on par with BLM activists calling all whites racist.

Give Me Some Truth , 3 hours ago

I must have made 200 posts on Epstein and Maxwell. I bet in 30 of these posts I mentioned the fact that Virginia Roberts gave the original photo of her and Prince Andrew to FBI agents ... years ago.

Not only did she give these agents the photo, she gave them details of what she actually did for Epstein and Maxwell.

This, to me, has always been a huge detail.

Basically: The FBI - and by extension DOJ - knew everything at least nine years ago (probably 20 years ago). This is not just a case involving seedy behavior of hundreds of VIP "johns," It's also a case where numerous agencies of our own government covered up these crimes and did nothing to stop this operation for who knows how many years or decades.

This scandal is so much larger than "Watergate" ... and the press won't even pursue these angles, which tells us that they must be complicit in concealing the full truth.

"Leave Epstein alone. He's intelligence."

Well, no duh. Obviously.

Why no charges yet against the public officials who spiked earlier investigations?

eatapeach , 2 hours ago

Because they have power and these pawns are important to them. Can you imagine what possession of those tapes can do for someone? for a country?

"stand down (my buddy Jeff told me to tell you that)"

USAllDay , 2 hours ago

The US .gov was obviously well aware what was going on- they were in on it. Epstein was a known and protected Mossad agent operating within the USA with the knowledge and blessing of the CIA.

[Jul 21, 2020] Ghislaine Maxwell's Testimony About Her Sex Life Could Soon Be Released by Patricia Hurtado

Notable quotes:
"... U.S. District Judge Loretta Preska in New York scheduled a Thursday conference to discuss the possible unsealing of five different sets of documents relating to a defamation lawsuit against Maxwell by Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre, whom Maxwell had said was lying ..."
"... A federal appeals court in New York unsealed 40 of the 613 pages of Maxwell's testimony last August. Her sworn denials of knowledge about Epstein's abuse of underage girls are the basis for two perjury counts that accompanied the sex-trafficking charges in the indictment unsealed against her on July 2 by Manhattan federal prosecutors ..."
"... The record of Giuffre's lawsuit was sealed in 2017 after the parties reached a confidential settlement. ..."
"... Menninger in June argued against further unsealing, saying one document pertained to Giuffre's efforts "to compel Ms. Maxwell to answer intrusive questions about her sex life" during her deposition. Menninger said Maxwell answered the questions because she had "a strong expectation of continued confidentiality." ..."
"... In the testimony that has been made public, Maxwell acknowledged hiring Giuffre as a 17-year-old massage therapist for Epstein at his Palm Beach estate but denied knowledge of any sexual abuse. ..."
Jul 21, 2020 | www.msn.com
(Bloomberg) -- A federal judge is considering making public a trove of previously sealed records from a 2015 lawsuit against Ghislaine Maxwell, who is now facing charges that she trafficked girls as young as 14 for her former boyfriend Jeffrey Epstein.

U.S. District Judge Loretta Preska in New York scheduled a Thursday conference to discuss the possible unsealing of five different sets of documents relating to a defamation lawsuit against Maxwell by Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre, whom Maxwell had said was lying.

The possible release is coming as Maxwell's lawyer are trying to tamp down statements about her criminal case, in which she has pleaded not guilty. On Tuesday, they asked the judge in that case, U.S. District Judge Alison Nathan, to issue a gag order on prosecutors, FBI agents and lawyers for Maxwell and Epstein's alleged victims.

The documents Preska is considering unsealing appear to be partly related to deposition testimony Maxwell, 58, gave in the case in April and July 2016. One of her lawyers said in a recent court filing that one of the documents included "intrusive questioning" about Maxwell's sex life that she had answered based on her expectation of confidentiality.

A federal appeals court in New York unsealed 40 of the 613 pages of Maxwell's testimony last August. Her sworn denials of knowledge about Epstein's abuse of underage girls are the basis for two perjury counts that accompanied the sex-trafficking charges in the indictment unsealed against her on July 2 by Manhattan federal prosecutors.

Read More: Ghislaine Maxwell's Sworn Testimony Is Coming Back to Haunt Her

The record of Giuffre's lawsuit was sealed in 2017 after the parties reached a confidential settlement. The partial unsealing last year followed Epstein's arrest on sex-trafficking charges. He was found dead of an apparent suicide in his Manhattan jail cell on Aug. 10, a day after parts of Maxwell's testimony first became public.

Maxwell's lawyer Laura Menninger didn't immediately return voicemail and email messages seeking comment about the conference.

Menninger in June argued against further unsealing, saying one document pertained to Giuffre's efforts "to compel Ms. Maxwell to answer intrusive questions about her sex life" during her deposition. Menninger said Maxwell answered the questions because she had "a strong expectation of continued confidentiality."

The lawyer also cited the then ongoing criminal investigation of Maxwell, saying any disclosures from the Giuffre lawsuit could "inappropriately influence potential witnesses or alleged victims."

Sigrid McCawley, a lawyer for Giuffre, couldn't be immediately reached for comment about Preska's planned conference.

In the testimony that has been made public, Maxwell acknowledged hiring Giuffre as a 17-year-old massage therapist for Epstein at his Palm Beach estate but denied knowledge of any sexual abuse.

"You can be a professional masseuse at 17 in Florida, so as far as I am aware, a professional masseuse showed up for a massage," Maxwell said. "There is nothing inappropriate or incorrect about that."

[Jul 20, 2020] Beer Countess Who Flew Epstein's 'Lolita Express' 32 Times Quits Child Protection Charity

Lex Wexler name surfaces in way too many places connected to Epstein VIP brothel, Why he is not arrested like Maxwell?
Notable quotes:
"... Hazell, now known as Lady Iveagh, worked for Epstein 'Madam' Ghislaine Maxwell according to accuser Maria Farmer , who says she also interacted with Iveagh at the Ohio estate of Victoria's Secret boss Leslie Wexner. Farmer said that Hazell "liked having nice drinks, piles of cash and nice outfits." She was listed in Jeffrey Epstein's famous Black Book as "Clare Hazell-Iveagh." ..."
"... Much like Epstein pal Prince Andrew, Hazell has not been charged with any of the crimes she's been accused of, however we somehow doubt she'll be speaking with US prosecutors anytime soon. ..."
Jul 20, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Clare Hazell - an interior designer who became the Countess of Iveagh after her 2001 marriage to the 4th Earl of Guinnes (of the brewing dynasty) - took 32 flights on Epstein's infamous airplane between 1998 and 2000, which included "trips to his homes in New York, Florida, the Caribbean and New Mexico," according to the Daily Mail . Epstein accompanied Hazell on all but one of the trips aboard the plane, per flight logs.

Ms Hazell was studying at Ohio State University in the 1990s and reportedly had a modelling agency and an apartment in Columbus, Ohio.

The friend described her as being at Epstein's 'beck and call', saying how mutual plans would be cancelled immediately if she was needed by Epstein and Maxwell. - Daily Mail

Hazell, now known as Lady Iveagh, worked for Epstein 'Madam' Ghislaine Maxwell according to accuser Maria Farmer , who says she also interacted with Iveagh at the Ohio estate of Victoria's Secret boss Leslie Wexner. Farmer said that Hazell "liked having nice drinks, piles of cash and nice outfits." She was listed in Jeffrey Epstein's famous Black Book as "Clare Hazell-Iveagh."

Another Epstein accuser, Virginia Giuffre, accused Hazel of sexually abusing her:

Virginia Giuffre @VRSVirginia • 9h v
You want names? There's 2 on this Gwendolyn Beck & Claire Hazel. They both had sexually abused me as a minor and even though there not JE's age type. These 2 are just some of the "older" women in JE's orbit that served a purpose wonder what that could be? #notmovingon #Help W

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#ClareHazel #Guinness #EmmyTayler
#GwendolynBeck #EpsteinCoverup
#ArrestMaxwell @VRSVirginia
@bobby_capucci @ohreallytruly

The dirty co-conspirators are ubiquitous and not one has been held accountable!

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Hazell, formerly the President of the NSPCC's West Suffolk branch hosted events for the charity at Elveden Hall - a lavish estate in Suffolk, England owned by the Guinness family since 1894 in which several scenes from Eyes Wide Shut were filmed. The estate now operates as a farm, growing root vegetables and cereals on the 22,000 acre property.

Much like Epstein pal Prince Andrew, Hazell has not been charged with any of the crimes she's been accused of, however we somehow doubt she'll be speaking with US prosecutors anytime soon.

[Jul 19, 2020] The Family of Spies: Ghislaine Maxwell

Jul 19, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Templar X , 3 hours ago

The Family of Spies: Ghislaine Maxwell

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•Premiered Jul 10, 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YMAZK61zaQ&t=8s

SOURCES

Robert Maxwell, Israel's Superspy: https://archive.org/details/robert-maxwell-israels-superspy-thomas-dillon-2002/page/n383/mode/2up

Jeffrey Epstein 'Friend' Ghislaine Maxwell Has More Skeletons in Her Family Closet Than a House of Horrors https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-friend-ghislaine-maxwell-has-more-skeletons-in-her-family-closet-than-a-house-of-horrors?ref=scroll

Sir Robert Maxwell's FBI file is getting more classified by the minute https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2017/jun/28/sir-robert-maxwells-fbi-PROMIS/

Chiliad Case Study FBI https://web.archive.org/web/20120524130022/http://www.chiliad.com:80/docs/ChiliadCaseStudy_FBI.pdf

FBI Shows off Counterterrorism database https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2006/08/30/fbi-shows-off-counterterrorism-database/8bec6026-4ac2-4d6c-bfc3-98b61b01de3f/

Chiliad, the Company That Solved the 9/11 'Connecting the Dots' Problem, Hires Dan Ferranti as CEO https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20080303005669/en/Chiliad-Company-Solved-911-Connecting-Dots-Problem

CIA's CIO retires; Intelligence agency names successor https://www.cio.com/article/2448368/cia-s-cio-retires--intelligence-agency-names-successor.html

Betty Maxwell Telegraph article http://archive.is/cgInY

Juval Aviv on Promis and the Octopus Conspiracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB2U8yQRMN0

Promis software linked to several murders https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqxc-KzcOz4

Dirtier than Watergate https://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2011/04/promis-government-inslaw

Seat of Satan Pergamon https://www1.cbn.com/700club/seat-satan-ancient-pergamum

Ghislaine Maxwell's Twin Sisters Have Their Own Wild Stories https://www.thecut.com/2019/08/ghislaine-maxwell-family-twin-sisters.html

The Maxwell dynasty: what happened to the disgraced mogul's family? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/family/life/maxwell-dynasty-happened-disgraced-moguls-family/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YMAZK61zaQ&t=8s

Templar X , 3 hours ago

Everything you need to know about Scott Borgerson, the tech CEO tied to Jeffrey Epstein's alleged madam, Ghislaine Maxwell

Scott Borgerson, the CEO of a maritime analytics company, is back in the news for his ties to Jeffrey Epstein's inner circle.

The Daily Mail reported last summer that Borgerson was dating and housing Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein's former girlfriend and alleged madam. Authorities arrested Maxwell on July 2 , and she remains behind bars without bail until she stands trial in 2021 to face allegations she recruited underaged girls for Epstein.

Borgerson denied the August 2019 report to Business Insider at the time, and said Maxwell was only a "former friend" who was not living at his home in Manchester-by-the-Sea, Massachusetts. Maxwell was then spotted at an In-N-Out Burger joint in Los Angeles the next day.

The relationship between Borgerson and Maxwell is still not clear, but the CEO's name has resurfaced after prosecutors recently alleged in court that Maxwell is secretly married . Maxwell has declined to provide the name of her spouse, but news outlets have suggested it could be Borgerson...

...Scott Borgerson, 44, is the CEO of CargoMetrics, a data-analytics company for maritime trade and shipping. He cofounded the Boston-based company in 2010, and it was most recently valued at $100 million in 2016.

Borgerson's company has raised nearly $23 million from investors, which include former Google CEO Eric Schmidt. Schmidt led a $10 million funding round for CargoMetrics in August 2017, according to PitchBook.

Borgerson owns an oceanfront property, reportedly worth $3 million, in Manchester-by-the-Sea, Massachusetts. Manchester-by-the-Sea is a small town north of Boston with a population of just over 5,000 people.

The Daily Mail reported in August 2019 that Borgerson was dating and housing Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein's alleged madam who had largely remained out of the public eye. Maxwell was close to Epstein, and reportedly recruited underage girls for Epstein and participated in their abuse.

The Daily Mail also reported Maxwell had become a "homebody" who was "hiding out" at Borgerson's home, and that the pair have been dating for around five years. However, Borgerson denied the report to Business Insider at the time, and said Maxwell was a "former friend."...

https://www.businessinsider.com/who-is-scott-borgerson-ceo-ghislaine-maxwell-jeffrey-epstein-cargometrics-2019-8

Anyone involved with Ghislaine Maxwell must automatically be suspected of being involved in underage prostitution, pedophilia, money laundering, and sex slavery.

[Jul 19, 2020] Is Ghislaine Maxwell a Foreign Operative?

Jul 19, 2020 | www.unz.com

Priss Factor , says: Website July 13, 2020 at 4:44 pm GMT

Is Ghislaine Maxwell a Foreign Operative?

https://www.youtube.com/embed/d_FcUYoSMrY?feature=oembed

[Jul 19, 2020] What about Les Wexner? Why he is not arrested?

Many have also totally missed – or are afraid to notice – the big picture: Israeli intelligence agencies and especially Mossad seem to be running pedophile rings that blackmail Western political, business and scientific leaders.
Jul 19, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

youshallnotkill , 1 hour ago

Contrary to popular belief not all rich folks know each other and hang out together.

This is highly noteworthy: https://twitter.com/donwinslow/status/1284296818315030528?s=20

Aubiekong , 1 hour ago

Didnt Bill Clinton go there 124 times while ordering his secret service protection not to accompany him?

Lucius Quinctius , 1 hour ago

Someone turned over a rock and exposed this nasty business. Epstein with his mysteriously sourced money, evidently controlled and facilitated by Ghislaine Maxwell. Her father, the Publisher, was the honored Israeli agent. Sorry, I am not anti Semitic but the finger points to Israel. Yes, they live in a tough neighborhood, and history has been harsh to them, but this move was a mistake, a moral failing.

Distant_Star , 2 hours ago

I don't give a Fu** about Prince Andrew. This is more misdirection to protect Bill Clinton and some others from scrutiny. Billy is rarely even mentioned in any news report about Epstein but there are eye witnesses who have SEEN him on the island and other properties.

frontierland , 1 hour ago

Are you going to point the finger at the J3wish nature of the operation?

What about Maxwell's parties hosted at your hotel Donald and your ex-wife's involvement of the recruitment of White women into the (((International))) blackmail operation?

What about Les Wexner?

While we're at it, let's talk of your friendship with your mentor, Roy Cohen.

[Jul 15, 2020] Epstein associate Ghislaine Maxwell employed ex-British military personnel to hide from FBI by Zack Budryk

Jul 15, 2020 | www.msn.com

Ghislaine Maxwell, the British socialite charged with aiding the late Jeffrey Epstein in the sex trafficking of minors, employed former British military personnel as security at the New Hampshire estate where she was arrested earlier this month, federal prosecutors said in a court filing Monday.

The office of the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York said Maxwell, in addition to the security detail, wrapped her cell phone in aluminum foil to avoid detection. FBI agents had to break down the door of the facility and found her hiding inside a room in its interior, prosecutors said, according to The Washington Post.

The FBI added that Maxwell sent the security personnel out to make "purchases for the property" with a credit card, and that the guards worked in rotating shifts.

The U.S. attorney's office has argued Maxwell is a flight risk, citing her citizenship in three countries, including her birthplace of France, which does not extradite citizens.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Alison Moe cited these precautions as further evidence Maxwell, who has denied the charges, is a flight risk. "As these facts make plain, there should be no question that the defendant is skilled at living in hiding," Moe wrote, according to the Post.

Since Maxwell's indictment, Moe wrote, investigators "have been in touch with additional individuals who have expressed a willingness to provide information regarding the defendant," who have given the U.S. attorney's office further information that "has the potential to make the Government's case even stronger," according to the newspaper.

Federal prosecutors have charged Maxwell on six counts, including sex trafficking, perjury and enticement of minors. She is due to appear in court Tuesday.

Maxwell's lawyers have claimed she was estranged from Epstein at the time of his death and that her precautions were against the media rather than law enforcement.

[Jul 15, 2020] Ghislaine Maxwell Pedo Sex-Trafficking Investigation Launched In Virgin Islands -

Jul 15, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Ghislaine Maxwell Pedo Sex-Trafficking Investigation Launched In Virgin Islands by Tyler Durden Tue, 07/14/2020 - 10:44 Twitter Facebook Reddit Email Print

Ghislaine Maxwell - who's facing six charges in New York over her alleged role in Jeffrey Epstein's pedophile sex-trafficking ring, is also under investigation in the US Virgin Islands .

The revelation comes in a July 10 filing to intervene in a lawsuit Maxwell filed against Epstein's estate seeking reimbursement for legal fees, and claiming that Epstein had repeatedly promised to support her financially, according to The Sun .

The Island's Justice Department is "investigating Maxwell's participation in Epstein's criminal sex trafficking and sexual abuse conduct," read the court papers.

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Epstein infamously owned Little St. James island, dubbed 'pedo island' over accusations that he would fly underage girls there to fulfill his sexual desires and those of his associates. Famous guests reportedly include Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew, Stephen Hawking, Les Wexner and others.

One accuser, Chaunte Davies, says she was raped by Epstein over the course of several years before finally parting ways with him in 2005.

Accuser Chaunte Davies, Ghislaine Maxwell

Now 40, Chaunte says the ex-Wall Street banker performed a sex act on himself during their first massage session - and that she was "manipulated" into staying in their circle by Maxwell . "Within weeks she was jetting round the world on his private jet and on to his island of Little Saint James," according to the report.

"The government's need to intervene is further fueled by Maxwell's inappropriate use of the Virgin Islands courts to seek payment and reimbursement from the Epstein criminal enterprise, while she circumvents the service of process of government subpoenas related to her involvement in that criminal enterprise ," reads the filing.

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Island officials have also subpoenaed Maxwell to try and compel her to appear before a local court - a bid which may prove difficult considering her current status as an inmate awaiting trial at a New York detention center following her July 2 arrest in New Hampshire. Maxwell has evaded Virgin Islands officials since March.

Maxwell is set to appear for a virtual bail and arraignment hearing on Tuesday. Her legal team has requested that she be freed on $5 million bail, arguing that she's not a flight risk and may catch coronavirus in jail. Prosecutors for the US Justice Department strongly disagreed, pointing to Maxwell's opaque finances and global contacts that pose a significant flight risk.

"She has demonstrated her ability to evade detection, and the victims of the defendant's crimes seek her detention," said DOJ prosecutors in their filing. "Because there is no set of conditions short of incarceration that can reasonably assure the defendant's appearance, the government urges the Court to detain her ."

[Jul 14, 2020] New Court Filing- Ghislaine Maxwell 'Fled' Across House During Raid; FBI Found Tin Foil-Wrapped Cell Phone -

Jul 14, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

According to the filing, one of Maxwell's security guards told agents that that the British socialite's brother had hired former members of the British military to guard her 24-7. As Bloomberg reports, Maxwell gave one of the guards a credit card in the name of the same LLC which bought her luxury New Hampshire bugout last year. According to the guard, Maxwell hadn't left the property in the time he'd been working there, and had been ordered to buy things for the estate.

Federal prosecutors detailed the lengths Maxwell went to in order to evade US law enforcement in order to argue that she's a flight risk who has access to "extraordinary financial resources" and would flee the country if allowed free on bail. A federal judge will decide on Tuesday whether to grant Maxwell's request to post $5 million bond so she can live under house arrest until her trial.

"She has demonstrated her ability to evade detection, and the victims of the defendant's crimes seek her detention," said DOJ prosecutors in their filing. "Because there is no set of conditions short of incarceration that can reasonably assure the defendant's appearance, the government urges the Court to detain her."

Maxwell wouldn't be extradited if she fled to France where she has citizenship, argued the prosecution, as the country does not extradite its own citizens to the US for prosecution, according to the report.

The government also argued Maxwell has been hiding from authorities, living in a secluded 156-acre estate in Bradford, New Hampshire, since late last year.

Maxwell is accused of luring girls as young as 14 for sexual encounters with Epstein and engaging in some of the abus e. Prosecutors argued she could face as long as 35 years in prison if convicted. Epstein died in a Manhattan lockup last August of an apparent suicide while awaiting trial on federal sex-trafficking charges.

While Maxwell's lawyers said in a separate court filing that she has six people willing to co-sign her bond, prosecutors argued she hasn't identified these people, whether any are even in the U.S. or have the sufficient finances to pay if she does flee. - Bloomberg

Maxwell's defense team also cited her long ties to the US, where she has lived for decades. They're also arguing that Maxwell was covered by Epstein's controversial 2007 non-prosecution agreement which allowed the convicted pedophile to avoid federal sex trafficking charges.

Federal prosecutors called that "absurd," arguing that the current case involved evidence from two new accusers who weren't involved in the prior prosecution - and that their case could become "even stronger" as additional witnesses have come forward to offer evidence against Maxwell.

See the court filing below:

[Jul 14, 2020] The defendant is skilled at living in hiding,

Jul 14, 2020 | www.msn.com

ender Jeffrey Epstein, sought to evade FBI detection by using former British military personnel as personal security and wrapping her cellphone in tin foil in an apparent anti-tracing attempt, federal prosecutors alleged Monday.

When the FBI moved on Maxwell at her estate in New Hampshire about two weeks ago, agents had to break down the door and found Maxwell hiding in a room in the interior of the home, according to a new court filing from the government opposing her release on bail.

The details of her arrest were disclosed as Maxwell, 58, is expected to face a Manhattan judge for the first time on Tuesday for a ruling on the $5 million bail bond package -- with home confinement and GPS monitoring -- that her lawyers proposed last week.

The U.S. attorney's office for the Southern District of New York has maintained that Maxwell, who has citizenship in three countries including the United States, is a flight risk. She was tracked down at the secluded estate in Bradford, N.H., and arrested July 2.

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She was born in France, which does not extradite its own citizens, raising fears among prosecutors that she could leave the country if released and never return to face charges. Authorities have accused her of recruiting underage girls for Epstein to abuse and occasionally participating in criminal sex acts alongside him, saying she "normalized" the idea of having sex with Epstein, her longtime companion, causing lasting psychological and emotional damage to the victims.

Maxwell has denied the allegations, and her attorneys recently said she was estranged from Epstein for a decade before his suicide in August while awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges. She faces up to 35 years in prison.

Maxwell, the wealthy daughter of a deceased British media mogul, was so intent on not being located that she never left her house, sending the security staff out "to make purchases for the property" using a credit card they were provided, a guard there allegedly told the FBI, according to Monday's court filing. The guards were hired by Maxwell's brother and worked in "rotations," prosecutors wrote.

"As these facts make plain, there should be no question that the defendant is skilled at living in hiding," Assistant U.S. Attorney Alison Moe wrote.

The U.S. attorney's office noted in its filing that since Maxwell's indictment, investigators "have been in touch with additional individuals who have expressed a willingness to provide information regarding the defendant." The evidence provided by those individuals, who were not identified in the filing, "has the potential to make the Government's case even stronger," it says.

Maxwell's bail proposal involves posting "a multi-million dollar property" in the United Kingdom as collateral -- which prosecutors have deemed essentially useless because the U.S. government could not seize it -- and she has refused to reveal the true extent of her assets to investigators, the filing says.

Maxwell's attorneys argued last week that she was hiding from the media, not the FBI, before her arrest and that she should not be subjected to the risk of contracting the novel coronavirus at the Brooklyn federal jail where she has been held since her transfer from New Hampshire.

[Jul 11, 2020] Ex-Jewel Thief Claims Epstein And Ghislaine Maxwell 'Forced Him To Watch Pedo Videos Involving US Politicians'

This is a paid interview. What he was paid to say ?
Notable quotes:
"... Whether one believes an anonymous ex-jewel thief's exclusive interview with The Sun is up to the reader. That said, Epstein accuser Maria Farmer claimed there was a ' secret media room ' in the dead pedophile's New York mansion which was full of recording equipment. ..."
"... What's more, former Israeli spy Ari Ben-Menashe - alleged "handler" of Ghislaine's father, Robert Maxwell, told the authors of Epstein: Dead Men Tell No Tales , that the Epstein was operating a "complex intelligence operation" at the behest of Mossad, and 'filmed US politicians and power players having sex with underage girls to blackmail them.' ..."
"... "I wouldn't say it was a relationship -- it was all about what she could use me for to help them. Me being a cocky young guy from New York City, seeing their arrogance and their wealth -- I just looked at it as an opportunity to milk them for what I could. ..."
"... Steel also says Ghislaine is a "nymphomaniac" who would try "everything and anything in bed." ..."
"... ...he was shown footage involving two high-profile US politicians having sex with minors and two high society figures having a threesome with an under-age girl. ..."
"... "She said to me that she often thought she needed to do something about Epstein, telling me, 'He is going to be the death of me'" claimed Steel. " So while she protected him and helped him, she was simultaneously plotting against him and trying to distance herself. " ..."
"... Ghislaine allegedly told Steel she had a "Polanski plan," named after disgraced pedophile and film director Roman Polanski, who fled the US after he was charged with the rape of a 13-year-old girl. ..."
Jul 11, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

An alleged former Jewel thief who says he had group sex with Ghislaine Maxwell but 'drew the line at under-age girls' claims he was forced to watch pedo videos involving 'two high-profile US politicians' and 'two high society figures having a threesome with an under-age girl.'

Whether one believes an anonymous ex-jewel thief's exclusive interview with The Sun is up to the reader. That said, Epstein accuser Maria Farmer claimed there was a ' secret media room ' in the dead pedophile's New York mansion which was full of recording equipment.

What's more, former Israeli spy Ari Ben-Menashe - alleged "handler" of Ghislaine's father, Robert Maxwell, told the authors of Epstein: Dead Men Tell No Tales , that the Epstein was operating a "complex intelligence operation" at the behest of Mossad, and 'filmed US politicians and power players having sex with underage girls to blackmail them.'

Jumping into the salacious claims by the jewel thief, who goes by the name William Steel, the story begins in the mid-1990s when Steel claims he met Epstein in the "upstairs room at a very high-end diamond dealer, the kind of place where only a few people are allowed in at a time."

"I was there doing what I do. I was meeting my fence.

" I saw Jeff with a young girl who looked only about 13 or 14 and he had his hand in the back of her shorts.

"That's what first got my attention.

"She was so young and he was much older. That's when I knew that he was dirty.

" I had about 200,000 dollars worth of jewellery that I was getting rid of and later I struck up a conversation with him .

"He later said the girl he was with was his niece but I called bulls**t on that, telling him I saw what he was doing with her. - The Sun

At some point later, Steel says he met Ghislaine Maxwell - who he says he had sex with on multiple occasions - and wanted to see how she could use him to help Epstein. Steel says he was trying to do the same thing:

"I wouldn't say it was a relationship -- it was all about what she could use me for to help them. Me being a cocky young guy from New York City, seeing their arrogance and their wealth -- I just looked at it as an opportunity to milk them for what I could.

I used to brag about what I was capable of to them."

Steele added that " When I wanted to impress or scare somebody, I'd get my briefcase out and it would have police scanners in it, gloves, lock picks, guns with silencers, " adding "I even owned an ultra-thermic torch which would burn a hole into anything in seconds."

" That impressed Ghislaine and Jeff. "

SEX, LIES AND VIDEOTAPE:

Steel claims that he saw a parade of underage girls 'coming and going' from Epstein's Palm Beach oceanfront mansion, but that he never participated in pedophilic sex acts.

"I only ever had sex with Maxwell and threesomes with her and other adult females," he said. "I suspected what they were doing with the under-age girls, I knew their routine, so when they tried to get me involved, I said, 'No, I'm not into that -- you're not getting me on video doing any of that'."

Steel also says Ghislaine is a "nymphomaniac" who would try "everything and anything in bed."

...he was shown footage involving two high-profile US politicians having sex with minors and two high society figures having a threesome with an under-age girl.

Steel -- who is not being paid for this interview -- also branded Maxwell , 58, who was arrested last week in connection with trafficking young girls, a wild "nymphomaniac" who would try "everything and anything in bed".

He says: " I was forced to watch their videos because they were trying to impress me.

"They wanted to convince me of their power and who they held in their grip.

" They boasted about 'owning' powerful people.

" Ghislaine was more into showing me those than Jeff.

"When you're in a situation like that, you have to pretend to be non- judgmental. But it was shocking. - The Sun

"She said to me that she often thought she needed to do something about Epstein, telling me, 'He is going to be the death of me'" claimed Steel. " So while she protected him and helped him, she was simultaneously plotting against him and trying to distance herself. "

"She knew they could drag each other down," adding "I think she saw herself as the more respectable of the two. She wanted me to do something about Jeff. "

Ghislaine allegedly told Steel she had a "Polanski plan," named after disgraced pedophile and film director Roman Polanski, who fled the US after he was charged with the rape of a 13-year-old girl.

"She told me about her Polanski plan where she would flee to France because they couldn't extradite her," he said, adding "I was surprised to hear she'd been picked up in New Hampshire."

"I want the authorities to know about her plan before her bail hearing."

Steel claims he absconded with evidence - "discs and things they were trying to get rid of," and says he "sent them to the authorities, but I don't know if they did anything with them."

Why he wouldn't make copies is anyone's guess.

Steel said the pair also asked him to help them find girls -- but he refused.

He adds: "Ghislaine was always talking down to people.

"She tried to pull that on me but I told her straight, ' Don't speak to me like you speak to your f***ing staff. I'm doing favours for you guys. You're not talking down to me. I don't give a f how much money you have '.

"They knew I had connections in various places and they offered me money to bring in girls but I never took them up on any of that.

"They told me, 'Whatever the girls want, I can help them with their modelling career if they want that or pay for their education, and it's just massages'.

"And I said, 'Yeah, I'm pretty sure what your massages turn into'.

"And he would just smirk at me and say that I could have what I wanted.

"I said I didn't want that, it's not fair to take advantage of these young girls. It's not right.

" He wanted me to help him with a plan he had to kidnap or pay 100 young girls and take them to an island where he would have sex with them, orgies, use them for blackmail and have babies with them.

"I just told him to shut up. I didn't even realise he was serious until years later.

"For him, at that time, his focus was getting girls that were not from the United States.

" He wanted girls from abroad because he felt they wouldn't know how the criminal justice system in the US works and would be less likely to report him.

"He said he would help look after their families but I said, 'I'm not going to help you ruin a teenage girl's life'. - The Sun

And that, is the rest of the ex-jewel thief's sordid tale.

[Jul 09, 2020] Is Jeffrey Epstein's Boss Ghislaine Maxwell Helping Mossad Run Pedophile Rings for Prince Andrew and the Ruling Elite, by Marco de Wit

Jul 09, 2020 | www.unz.com

The Epstein Pedoscandal Mossad Timeline shows in detail how Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell were working for the Israeli intelligence agency, Mossad.

The timeline generated many comments at Unz.com but surprisingly most of them dealt whether Epstein was a pedophile or not. This despite the overwhelming evidence of pedophilia.

Many have also totally missed – or are afraid to notice – the big picture: Israeli intelligence agencies and especially Mossad seem to be running pedophile rings that blackmail Western political, business and scientific leaders.

Furthermore, it seems that Ghislaine Maxwell was and still is the master mind behind many of these pedophile rings.

One of the reasons Epstein and Ghislaine were able to continue sex trafficking with impunity for so long was the appearance that Epstein was a victim of jealous people and overzealous police. Many people thought that Epstein had only had sex with a 17-year old girl who had lied about her age.

This excuse worked well because in Florida the age of consent is 18 while in most other American states it is 16.

Epstein was able to play the martyr by not only claiming that unscrupulous girls had lied their age but also by implying that the age of consent is too high anyway in Florida.

This was also one reason why in New Mexico where Epstein had his Zorro Ranch the officials refused to register him as a sex offender. In New Mexico the age of consent was 16 until in 2018 it was raised to 18.

Furthermore, unlike in many other states, in New Mexico the courts recognize a mistake of age defense.

New Mexico courts recognize a mistake of age defense . The mistake of age defense is basically "I thought she was 17." However, this is no guarantee that this defense will work in court. Moreover, the mistake of age is the creation of judges in the absence of a direct statute addressing the defense. State lawmakers may pass a law overriding the courts on this issue at any time. ( LegalMatch )

In reality the Epstein-Ghislaine case is not whether it is wrong for an adult to have sex with a 17 year old. Instead it is about many other things such as prostitution, grooming, pedophilia and the exploitation of children.

This all is connected to global politics involving sex trafficking, drug and arms trade, money laundering, Ponzi schemes, spy networks and blackmailing for Mossad.

Epstein's victims were caught in a web of international spy network that used them as pawns for blackmail operations. The younger the girls were, the more leverage Israel would have over politicians, billionaires and scientists. Thus Epstein and Ghislaine tried to also recruit girls who were well under the age of 16.

What is more, they personally enjoyed having sex with these very young girls. Both Epstein and Ghislaine seem to have been pedophiles who were attracted to prepubescent girls and boys, i.e. small children.

Pedophilia is defined as:

Pedophilia ( alternatively spelt paedophilia) is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children. [1] [2] ( Wikipedia )

Note that in order to be a pedophile it is enough to have merely occasional sexual attraction to prepubescent, i.e. sexually immature children who have not yet developed secondary sex characteristics, such as breasts.

Julie Brown from Miami Herald notes that Courtney Wild was only 14 when she was recruited into Epstein's sex ring.

Wild still had braces on her teeth when she was introduced to him in 2002 at the age of 14.

She was fair, petite and slender, blonde and blue-eyed. (emphasis added. Miami Herald )

Link to Miami Herald

Julie Brown also notes that Epstein preferred girls who were not only white [and non-Jewish] but also appeared prepubescent.

Wild, who later helped recruit other girls, said Epstein preferred girls who were white, appeared prepubescent and those who were easy to manipulate into going further each time. (Emphasis added. Miami Herald )

For Epstein and Ghislaine it was important that the girls at the very least looked like small children. This is obviously why they preferred girls who were under 16.

Courtney Wild told the police that she brought Epstein over 70 girls and they were all under 16.

By the time I was 16, I had probably brought him 70 to 80 girls who were all 14 and 15 years old (Emphasis added. Miami Herald )

Some girls were even younger. According to the police many were 13 year old.

The girls -- mostly 13 to 16 -- were lured to his pink waterfront mansion by Wild and other girls, who went to malls, house parties and other places where girls congregated, and told recruits that they could earn $200 to $300 to give a man -- Epstein -- a massage, according to an unredacted copy of the Palm Beach police investigation obtained by the Herald. (Emphasis added. Miami Herald )

It is also important to note that even 13 was not the minimum age for Epstein and Ghislaine. In fact, there was no limit to how young the girls could be. Both Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell emphasized that the younger the better.

Eventually, she said Maxwell trained her to recruit new girls for Epstein.

"Jeffrey was very particular in the kind of girls he wanted. First off, the younger the better ."

Epstein said that to her, Giuffre claimed, and " Maxwell said that too . During the training and telling me how to do it, she said 'You always have to go for the youngest-looking ones .'" (Emphasis added. The Daily Beast )

Link to The Daily Beast

It seems the primary purpose was not even blackmail since especially Epstein was having sex with these young girls all the time. On some days Epstein was having sex several times a day.

Sex games were more important for Epstein than work. Obviously, he was extremely attracted to these young girls.

Palm Beach multimillionaire Jeffrey Epstein, 54, was accused of assembling a large, cult-like network of underage girls -- with the help of young female recruiters -- to coerce into having sex acts behind the walls of his opulent waterfront mansion as often as three times a day , the Town of Palm Beach police found. (Emphasis added. Miami Herald )

In six months, I never saw him do a day's work," Ransome told The Telegraph. "I never saw him work. He was literally sexually abusing us all day long . (Emphasis added. Business Insider )

Link to Business Insider

Ghislaine also seemed to be obsessed with sex. Just like her father, Robert Maxwell she was rumored to be interested in unconventional sex which includes also sex with young children.

As she [Ghislaine] posed for the pics, which ran in a publication meant to promote Sotheby's vintage fashion collection, she allegedly let slip comments that hinted at a twisted double life.

"She didn't talk about Epstein, but during the shoot she did tell a story about how she just hosted a dinner party for a number of young girls, and she put dildos at each place setting," the source said. "Ghislaine then described how during the dinner two guests, who were a couple, began demonstrating how to do the perfect fellatio on a man for all at the table. She was laughing about it."

"A friend of mine has a whole theory about her, that Epstein was like her father Robert Maxwell, who himself is believed to have had some strange sexual practices." ( Page Six )

Link to PageSix

The Epstein Mossad-Timeline shows how Ghislaine was most probably trained by Mossad to use sex to gather information. That training would not have been too difficult for her since she was hypersexual. Many even considered her a nymphomaniac.

In fact, even many Israeli Jews – who usually have much fewer sexual taboos than puritan English and Americans – were shocked by her raunchy sexuality.

Flirtatious indeed: I understand from a mutual friend that after school she travelled to Israel and visited a kibbutz; she was immediately ostracised by the other girls for making a rather-too-obvious beeline for the Adonis-like lifeguard at the kibbutz pool. Very quickly she got her way, as she would with much in her life. ( Tatler . Emphasis added.)

Even Ghislaine's friend were sometimes shocked by her open sexuality that so often contrasted with her otherwise lady-like behavior and position in high society.

Ghislaine was, added Mason, 'fantastically entertaining' and 'saucy' – the paper said that she talked openly about sex .

In fact, said another acquaintance who saw her often at parties, she was 'obsessed by sex . She's Sphinx-like, mysterious. The last time I saw her, five, 10 years ago, I said what are you up to? And she said "I'm selling this product – stainless-steel mini dumb-bells – that you put up your fanny. For exercising your vaginal muscles, exercise your pelvic floor, learn the Singapore Grip. I'm giving seminars in LA and they all turn up and I tell them, this is how you keep your man."' ( Tatler . Emphasis added.)

Epstein and Ghislaine were both hypersexual. All kind of sex interested them. Little girls were just part of the menu. Or more specifically, the best – and most profitable – part.

Epstein and Ghislaine were so attracted to young girls that nothing seemed to satisfy them. Perhaps this is why Epstein and Ghislaine created the highly risky sexual pyramid scheme. The girls were offered two alternatives: Either satisfy Epstein and Ghislaine sexually or get more girls to satisfy them.

In this way Epstein and Ghislaine were able to recruit literally hundreds of young girls. However, some of these girls went to the police and the sexual pyramid scheme collapsed.

When Epstein got out of jail in 2009 he had half-learned his lesson: American girls are too risky.

Now Epstein and Ghislaine would only concentrate on East European girls with the help of their Jewish-Ukrainian friend Peter Listerman.

One of the lesser-known shadowy figures linked to Jeffrey Epstein and his sex ring of teenage girls and young women is Ukrainian-born Peter Listerman, who has worked as a businessman and television presenter but is most known for his "match-making" abilities.

What match-making really means is that Listerman procures women, often underage, for the jet-set society to use for sexual purposes. His "clients" include Russian oligarchs and American businessmen and seems to have also included Jeffrey Epstein. ( Citizen Truth )

Link to the Citizen Truth.org

Listerman has such a bad reputation that he is shunned even in Ukraine!

Tatiana Savchenko, who founded the first modeling school in Odessa, Ukraine explained to the Daily Beast the lengths she had to go to keep Listerman from getting his hands on young women and trafficking them for sex work.

She claimed that he would frequently approach her students and attempt to lure them with promises of a luxurious lifestyle, and that "It took a lot of work to keep him from tricking our teen models in his traps." ( Citizen Truth )

Peter Listerman is the usual suspect. Link to Fishki.net Do you think I am kidding? I am Peter Listerman! Link to Fishki.net

Both Epstein and Listerman were attracted to very young girls. Neither even tried to hide it much. In fact, Epstein was quite open about his attraction to tweens.

Just three months ago, as federal prosecutors were closing in with new charges, Mr. Epstein had a conversation with R. Couri Hay, a publicist, about continuing to improve his reputation. Mr. Epstein asserted that what he was convicted of did not constitute pedophilia, said Mr. Hay, who declined to represent him.

The girls he had sex with were "tweens and teens," Mr. Epstein told him. ( The New York Times )

But what is a tween?

Preadolescent is generally defined as those ranging from age 10 to 13 years. [4] [6] While known as preadolescent in psychology, the terms preteen, preteenager or tween are common in everyday use. ( Wikipedia )

Epstein was right, of course. What he was convicted of in 2007 did not constitute pedophilia. However, that is precisely one reason why people are so outraged!

Epstein and Ghislaine did not see any problem of recruiting, grooming and having sex also with tweens. And apparently neither did the Justice Department and the FBI led by Robert Mueller !

But it gets even worse. As pointed out in the Epstein Pedoscandal Mossad Timeline , it seems that Epstein and Ghislaine were after even younger girls.

In 2003 Epstein financed Jean-Luc Brunell's(?) and Jeff Fuller's(J) new modelling agency MC2 that seemed to have worked with Peter Listerman.

MC2 obviously refers to the famous Einstein equation E = MC2 , the energy-mass equivalence. Equally obviously, E equals Epstein, the energy, whereas the girls equal MC2, the mass energized by Epstein.

Jean-Luc Brunell

Brunell is generally known as the sleaziest man in model business who has long faced accusations that girls were drugged and raped in his employ . Already in the 80s he was the subject of a famous 60 Minutes expose on sexual abuse in the modeling industry

https://www.youtube.com/embed/CH8NAaPUvlo?feature=oembed

Despite all this – or for the very reason – Epstein invested in MC2 and became particularly close to its founders Brunel and Fuller.

The agency operates in New York, Miami and Tel Aviv. It's in practice half-Israeli.

Many call Israel the capital of human trafficking and organ harvesting .

Link to Ynet.com

MC2 concentrates on importing East European girls to Israel and America. The younger the better.

Marina Lynchuk of MC2 Lolita Lvola from MC2 Linta Lapinda from MC2

Brunel seems to have given 12-year old triplets to Epstein as a birthday present.

'Jeffrey bragged after he met them that they were 12-year-olds and flown over from France because they're really poor over there, and their parents needed the money or whatever the case is and they were absolutely free to stay and flew out,' Giuffre said.

She said she saw the three girls with her own eyes and that Epstein had repeatedly described to her how the girls had massaged him and performed oral sex on him. They were flown back to France the next day.

Link to Daily Mail

It seems that even tweens were not young enough for Epstein.

According to court papers in 2005 Brunel called Epstein and left a message that "he is sending him a 16-year-old Russian girl for purposes of sex". However, the written message says something even worse.

The message, filed as an exhibit in the case, was written on an office message pad, partly in code, and read: "He [Brunel] has a teacher for you to teach you how to speak Russian. She is 2×8 years old not blonde. Lessons are free and you can have your 1st today if you call." ( New York Post )

Does it mean that two eight year olds are involved? Or does 2 x 8 mean to sex 8 year old? (2=to, x=sex)

Why would the lessons be free and why is it relevant that the "teacher" is not a blond?

There is no denying that Epstein and Ghislaine sexualised even small children. This became clear in 2005 when police raided Epstein's Palm Peach mansion.

In one photo that was hanging on the wall a small six or seven year old girl was bending over in a tiny dress. Police blurred out the photo in the video taken during the raid.

Link to The Daily Mail

https://www.youtube.com/embed/-KhMIXqZWt8?feature=oembed

Despite all this only the Russian Television was actively trying to expose Epstein and Ghislaine.

RT aired this video already nine years ago!

The description on the video is even more revealing. It even mentions the 12-year old triplets.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/0f_Md0yzy4Q?feature=oembed

The American TV networks were actively suppressing the story for years.

The American media has also been trying to cover up the fact that Jeffrey Epstein was most probably murdered in his cell. He had to be silenced.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/8non5URYbQs?feature=oembed

But it gets even worse.

This hung on Ghislaine's home wall.

NEW YORK CITY, NY – MARCH 13: Atmosphere at Hamish Bowles, Ghislaine Maxwell and Lillian von Stauffenberg dinner for ALLEGRA HICKS at Home of Ghislaine Maxwell on March 13, 2007 in New York City. (Photo by Patrick McMullan/Patrick McMullan via Getty Images). Link to Getty Images.

The so called artwork seems to be full of pedophile symbols.

Link to Wikileaks.org

The quality of the photos taken at Ghislaine's home are so good that even more symbols have been found in her artwork.

For some reason the mainstream media has not picked up on this pedophilia angle. No mainstream media journalist has even tried to ask why would Ghislaine have such art and symbols on her home wall.

This despite the fact that Ghislaine is most probably an Israeli superspy just like was her father, Robert Maxwell. She probably has been trained to use sex – including pedophilia – as a tool for blackmail and manipulation.

At the time in Israel females molesting little boys was not even considered rape.

Link to Haaretz.com

Nor have mainstream journalists asked where was Ghislaine when Madeline McCann was abducted.

That would not be an unreasonable question since one of the E-Fit images looks a lot like Ghislaine.

Link to Enchanted Life Path.com

Furthermore, two of the E-Fit images (1A, 1B) look like the Podesta brothers. John Podesta was White House Chief of Staff to Bill Clinton and the Chairman of the 2016 Hillary Clinton presidential campaign.

Ghislaine and Epstein were close to the Clintons and the Podesta brothers have been directly linked also to Pizzagate.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/l5AxV1SrTkE?feature=oembed

Link to Pizzagate Map created by Tuukka Pensala

Was Ghislaine helping to run also Pizzagate and other pedophile rings for Mossad?

At least she seems to be perfectly trained to do just that. First, her own hypersexuality, family background and possible training by Mossad made it easy for her to master mind the pedophilia ring she run with Epstein.

Second, Ghislaine and Epstein had all the apparel to help run also other pedophile rings: Lolita express airplanes and helicopters, Zorro Ranch in New Mexico and luxury mansions in New York, Palm Peach and Paris.

Even more importantly they had their own island in the Virgin Islands.

In the 90s Epstein bought Little St. James island from the Virgin islands. It had a mansion which Epstein expanded.

Soon locals started to call it the Pedophile Island.

Little St. James island. Link to Wall Street Journal article

The island seems to have tunnels with several underground entrances.

Underground entrance Link to Twitter

The island also has a strange temple.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/LNue92Gta3s?feature=oembed

We Are Change's Luke Rudkowski and the Dollar Vigilante's Jeff Berwick secretly visited the island but were soon chased out.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/VmgSM7lWRts?feature=oembed

Ghislaine has a Helicopter Pilot License and often transported quests to the island.

On the weekends in the 1990s, Maxwell would have her Rollerblades FedExed to Epstein's island in the Caribbean, and said she got her helicopter's license so she could transport anyone she liked without pilots knowing who they were .

Maxwell also said the island had been completely wired for video; the friend thought that she and Epstein were videotaping everyone on the island as an insurance policy, as blackmail.

A source close to Maxwell says she spoke glibly and confidently about getting girls to sexually service Epstein, saying this was simply what he wanted, and describing the way she'd drive around to spas and trailer parks in Florida to recruit them. She would claim she had a phone job for them, "and you'll make lots of money, meet everyone, and I'll change your life."

Maxwell had one other thing to tell this woman: "When I asked what she thought of the underage girls, she looked at me and said, 'they're nothing, these girls. They are trash .'" (Emphasis added. Vanity Fair )

Ghislaine was naturally using Epstein's helicopters. Some of them shared their FAA tail number with a US contractor, Dyncorp . That would have helped Ghislaine and Epstein to fly drugs and children.

FAA records and Epstein's pilot's flight manifest indicate that Epstein's Bell helicopter used the same tail number of N474AW . This was the same tail number used until 2006 by State Department contractor Dyncorp for counter-insurgency operations in Latin America.

The congruence of Epstein's Bell N474AW and Dincorp's Bronco N474AW is noteworthy. In 2002, the year Epstein's aircraft fleet stands accused of flying underage teen girls, some between the ages of 12 and 15 , coincided with Dyncorp's trafficking in underage females between the ages of 12 and 15 from Kosovo and Bosnia in the Balkans.

One Dyncorp whistleblower reported to The Washington Times's Insight magazine's Kelly O'Meara in 2002 the following on one Dyncorp employee in Bosnia:

[he] owned a girl who couldn't have been more than 14 years old. It's a sick sight anyway to see any grown man [having sex] with a child, but to see some 45-year-old man who weights 400 pounds with a little girl, it just makes you sick."

Tail number N474AW has been shared between Epstein's Bell helicopter like the one in this photo. (Emphasis added. Political Bull Pen )

DynCorp's pedophilia ring became internationally infamous with the release of the movie Whistleblower.

Link to Wikipedia

Helicopters can always be seen. However, Ghislaine also has a license to operate submarines!

In 2012 – three years after Epstein got out of jail – Maxwell founded The TerraMar Project , [51] a nonprofit organization that advocated protecting ocean waters.

She gave a lecture for TerraMar at the University of Texas at Dallas and a TED talk, at TEDx Charlottesville in 2014. [52] Maxwell accompanied Stuart Beck (J), a 2013 TerraMar board member, to two United Nations meetings to discuss the project. [17] ( Wikipedia )

In 2014, a United Nations event featured Maxwell as a speaker. According to her bio in the program, Maxwell's "web-based non-profit" aimed "to protect the Oceans by empowering a global community of ocean citizens ." It further described Maxwell as "a private helicopter pilot and an Emergency Medical Technician and a qualified ROV and Deepworker submarine pilot ."

A former Coast Guard officer, Borgerson was also a fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations , which featured Borgerson and Maxwell as speakers during one 2014 talk titled "Governing the Ocean Commons: Growing Challenges, New Approaches." Friends of Maxwell, according to The New York Times , said Borgerson became her boyfriend. Maxwell had allegedly described Borgerson as a " Navy SEAL " to her pals.

Maxwell's dubious charity also roped in the Clinton Global Initiative , the now-defunct networking platform for the Clinton Foundation. In the fall of 2013, CGI named TerraMar as one of the "commitments to action" at their annual meeting. (Emphasis added. Daily Beast )

Did the Pedophile Island have an underground submarine base? Was it a part of global pedophile network?

And was the Ocean Citizens project an attempt to escape national jurisdictions and thus gain at least a partial immunity from police investigations and prosecutions?

Link to TerraMar Project

Interestingly, as late as 2016 Epstein bought also the nearby Great St. James Island. He started to build on the island without permits.

There were rumors that he was building underground. For some reason the mainstream media has had no interest in this second island.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/v1NKk78YQKI?feature=oembed

Why is the mainstream media not interested in Ghislaine's many links to pedophilia?

Perhaps because Ghislaine has so many powerful friends. The photo of the pedophile artwork on Ghislaine's wall was taken 13 March 2007 during a party at Ghislaine's New York townhouse. The guest list included a curious combination of elite Jews, aristocratic Brits and American WASPs.

Atmosphere==
Hamish Bowles, Ghislaine Maxwell and Lillian von Stauffenberg dinner for ALLEGRA HICKS. Home of Ghislaine Maxwell. March 13, 2007©Patrick McMullan. Photo-Patrick McMullan/Patrick McMullan.com. Link to Quick N Dirty

The party was in Ghislaine's huge 7000-square-foot townhouse. It is located in the most opulent and prestigious neighborhood of America, the Upper East Side , New York on East 65th Street just off Park Avenue. Epstein's townhouse was only 10 blocks away.

Ghislaine's five story townhouse. Link to Street Easy Ghislaine's townhouse floor plan. Link to Street Easy Ghislaine's townhouse 2nd floor gallery. Link to Street Easy

There are reports from reliable sources that the townhouse was sold in 2000 to Ghislaine by Lynn Forester de Rothschild . The very same woman who had introduced Epstein and Ghislaine to Alan Dershowits and the Clintons in the 90s.

The Manhattan property, which is close to Epstein's mansion, is owned by Lynn Forester de Rothschild, wife of British financier Sir Evelyn de Rothschild. (See The Times and the original article .)

According to Business Insider Forester sold the townhouse to Ghislaine for less than half the price.

Forester sold the mansion for about $8.5 million less than its assessed market value, which was more than $13.4 million.

Was this a pay-off to Ghislaine from the King of Jews, the Rothschilds for services rendered?

Hillary Clinton, Evelyn de Rothschild, Bill Clinton and Lynn Forester de Rothschild. Link to Mint Press

It probably is also relevant that at the time of the sale of the townhouse the Prime Minister of Israel was Ehud Barak. In the 80s he had been the head of Aman, the Israeli Military Intelligence Agency. As the Epstein Pedoscandal Mossad Timeline revealed, both Epstein and Ghislaine worked for the Israeli intelligence agencies already in the 80s during the Iran-Contra operation.

Note that it was around year 2000 that Epstein and Ghislaine started the pedophile operation in earnest. In the 80s and 90s blackmail operations were a side show but now it became the main show involving hundreds of young girls.

Sexual blackmail – especially involving little children – can be an extremely efficient way to influence key politicians and even military officials. A successful blackmail operation can achieve more than several army divisions. No wonder Barak was so close to Epstein and Ghislaine.

Furthermore, in 2000 the president of Israel was Moshe Katsev who was sexually harassing and even raping his female subordinates. Later Katsev would be convicted of rape.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Fw9-HUiI9Ak?feature=oembed

It was also in 2000 when the Israeli Vice-Consul of Rio de Janeiro, Arie Scher and Hebrew language Professor George Schteinberg were running a pedophile ring for Israeli tourists. When the Brasilian police started to investigate the Israeli consulate Scher managed to flee back to Israel.

Link to Rodoh.info

In Israel Scher was not prosecuted. Instead in 2005 he was promoted to Consul of Canberra, the capital of Australia. A spokesman for the Israeli Foreign Ministry in Jerusalem, Mark Regev explained:

He [Arie Scher] was a young and single man at the time [in Brazil]. Now he is married and he's six years older and there is no reason why he shouldn't make an excellent diplomatic appointment in Australia.

Australia refused to let Scher enter the country.

Link to William Bowles Info

The most shocking part of the Arie/Aryeh Scher story is that the mainstream media was not interested. Either the stories have been scrubbed from the internet or no stories were ever written by mainstream journalists except one short story by BBC in 2000 and one even smaller story by The Sydney Morning Herald in 2005. Even more surprisingly Youtube does not seem to have any videos about the Scher case.

No wonder Barak was absolutely convinced that the Western mainstream media would never dare to criticize Israel and its intelligence agencies. Not even when Mossad was running pedophile rings.

It was probably the Israeli leaders Shimon Peres, Ehud Barak and Moshe Katsev together with the ultra-Zionist Mega Group who made sure Epstein and especially the Maxwell family had not only immunity from prosecution but also all the blackmail apparel necessary including luxury townhouses, airplanes, yachts, submarines, ranch and a private island. All, of course, bugged to the hilt.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak (R) talks to Shimon Peres, Minister of Regional Planning, after Barak's speech at the opening session of parliament in Jerusalem 30 October 2000. AFP PHOTO / SVEN NACKSTRAND (Photo credit should read SVEN NACKSTRAND/AFP/Getty Images) Link to Getty Images

Here the pedophile artwork at Ghislaine's New York townhouse can be seen behind Lillian von Staufenberg who in March 2007 together with Ghislaine and Hamish Bowles organized a dinner party in honor of Allegra Hicks. This at a time when Epstein had already been charged with abusing young girls.

Karen Groos, Allegra Hicks, Lillian von Stauffenberg==
Hamish Bowles, Ghislaine Maxwell and Lillian von Stauffenberg dinner for ALLEGRA HICKS. Home of Ghislaine Maxwell, NYC. March 13, 2007 ©Patrick McMullan/Patrick McMullan.com. Link to QuickNDirty

Why would Ghislaine have such a suspicious artwork on her wall knowing that it would probably be photographed during the parties?

Why would Ghislaine and her quests take such a huge risk? Or was it a sign meant to be seen? Was Ghislaine flaunting her power?

Ghislaine and her quests seemed to be absolutely sure that the mainstream media would not dare to ask embarrassing questions.

They were right, of course. The mainstream media knows its place.

However, occasionally some courageous mainstream journalist or editor does try to give hints. Some have even reported on Ghislaine's hyper-sexual reputation and her orgies. It is just that the stories have mostly been scrubbed from the internet.

Fortunately, Whitney Webb from Mintpress has found many of the scrubbed stories. Some of them mention the Mossad connection and others note the orgies. For example, in 2003 a British newspaper, The Evening Standard reported a revealing rumor.

Salacious reports have crossed the Atlantic about Ghislaine hosting bizarre parties at her house to which she invites a dozen or so young girls, then brandishes a whip and teaches them how to improve their sexual techniques.

It seems that Ghislaine was not only a madame to Epstein but also to the ruling elite. This would both explain her popularity and the fact that the media – and especially the American media – dares not to criticize her too much. Not even after her boyfriend Epstein was charged with sex trafficking minors!

Ghislaine's friends are just too powerful. After the March 2007 party the British Daily Mail newspaper was amazed how Ghislaine could still have attracted such creme de la creme of the highest elite. Even more amazingly, the elite was practically swooning over her.

The night before the party, the hostess [Ghislaine] had been inundated with calls from disgruntled socialites, irked that they hadn't received an invitation.

The hostess greeted their objections with her customary charm, but remained unmoved. As always, her list had been carefully edited, and she intended it to stay that way.

Among the select few were Hollywood star Matthew Modine, Kennedy family member Mrs Anthony Radziwill, Peggy Siegel, PR consultant to the stars, and Julie Janklow, heir to a literary dynasty.

There was a Rockefeller on the list, as well as the inevitable countesses, billionaires and New York luminaries.

Link to Daily Mail

The guests at the party included also Renee Rockefeller who is married to Mark Rockefeller , the son of ex-Vice President Nelson Rockefeller and nephew of David Rockefeller.

Allegra Hicks, Renee Rockefeller==
Hamish Bowles, Ghislaine Maxwell and Lillian von Stauffenberg dinner for ALLEGRA HICKS. Home of Ghislaine Maxwell, NYC. March 13, 2007 ©Patrick McMullan/Patrick McMullan.com. Link to QuickNDirty

David Rockefeller lived at 146 East on the same 65th Street in the Upper East Side as Ghislaine. They were practically neighbors. Ghislaine would have to walk only two minutes to visit David.

David liked to pose for photos in his Beetle Room next to his favorite Picasso painting depicting a nude child "prostitute".

David Rockefeller. Link to Jeffrey Harris Desing.com

David was often visited by his close friend Jacob Rothschild, the patriarch of the Rothschild family.

The very same family that got Ghislaine her luxury townhouse next door.

The patriarchs, Jacob Rothschild and David Rockefeller. Link to Jeffrey Harris Design.com

As shown by the Epstein Pedoscandal Mossad Timeline both Epstein and Ghislaine continued to move in the highest circles long after Epstein got out of jail. In fact, only last year Ghislaine was invited to a secret writers' retreat hosted by the richest man in the world, Jeff Bezos.

Link to The Daily Mail

Not only billionaires but also royalty kept in close contact with Ghislaine.

Prince Andrew was recently interviewed by the BBC about his relationship with Epstein, Ghislaine and their sex slave Virginia Roberts.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/AKQi3wzNFGQ?feature=oembed

Amazingly, Andrew claimed she has no recollection of Epstein's and Ghislaine's sex slave, Virginia Roberts. This despite the fact that they were photographed together!

Prince Andrew, Virginia Roberts and Ghislaine Maxwell. Link to Daily Mail Link to The Sun.com

https://www.youtube.com/embed/TVawMbof6sQ?feature=oembed

Hardly anybody believes Andrew. The queen had no choice but to sack his own son.

Link to Daily Mail

Andrew got sacked because he was caught in a lie.

Andrew claimed he could not have had sex with the 17-year old Virginia in 2001 because he had stayed with the British consul general.

The problem is the consul general does not recall Andrew staying with him.

Link to Daily Mail

Curiously, most of the mainstream media has forgotten that it was Ghislaine who recruited and manipulated Virginia Roberts to become a sex slave.

Even the BBC forgot this crucial fact despite Andrew mentioning Ghislaine many times during the interview.

Time and again, the Prince invoked his friendship with Maxwell, 57, daughter of disgraced media tycoon Robert Maxwell, as the reason he came into paedophile Epstein's orbit.

Asked when he last saw Maxwell, Andrew said his last contact was 'earlier this year, funnily enough', when she 'was here doing some rally'. ( Daily Mail )

Andrew claimed to have met Ghislaine last spring. In fact, they met in June just after US prosecutors reopened the case against Epstein.

The Duke of York held a meeting with Ghislaine Maxwell in London two weeks after US prosecutors announced they wanted to reopen their investigation into Jeffrey Epstein.

The meeting took place on or about June 5, the day before Ms Maxwell took part in a four-day charity motoring rally from London to Monte Carlo.

Did Ghislaine demand that Andrew help make sure that the her own parallel case would not be reopened?

After meeting Andrew she literally disappeared from the face of the earth.

The ex-socialite has not been seen since although rumours have placed her in Brazil, France, the American mid-West and even the UK.

'No one knows where she is,' a lawyer for one of Epstein's victims said last night. 'She's done the greatest disappearing act known to man – or woman.' ( Daily Mail )

Link to Daily Mail

Shockingly, during the BBC interview Prince Andrew mentioned Ghislaine many times and seemed to be proud of their friendship. Despite this the interviewer did not dare to ask questions about their relationship.

Was this a message to all: Leave Ghislaine alone.

Ghislaine is obviously protected not only by the royal family but also by the whole ruling elite. No wonder that she has the Get-Out-of-Jail-Free card .

Ghislaine also tries to protect other Epstein associates.

Link to Daily Mail

Prince Andrew is now afraid to go to the US.

Five women who accuse Jeffrey Epstein of abusing them say Prince Andrew witnessed how people were given massages at the sex offender's homes.

The lawyer for the women has told BBC Panorama he plans to serve subpoenas to force the Duke of York to testify as a witness in all five cases.

He says the prince could have important information about sex trafficking. ( BBC )

Link to BBC story and video

The BBC has now finally zoomed in on Ghislaine.

Another Epstein victim, Sarah Ransome told Panorama Ghislaine Maxwell, one of Prince Andrew's oldest friends, worked hand in hand with Epstein.

"Ghislaine controlled the girls. She was like the Madam," she said.

"She was like the nuts and bolts of the sex trafficking operation and she would always visit Jeffrey on the island to make sure the girls were doing what they were supposed to be doing.

"She knew what Jeffrey liked. She worked and helped maintain Jeffrey's standard by intimidation, by intimidating the girls, so this was very much a joint effort."

Ms Maxwell could not be reached for comment but has previously denied any involvement in or knowledge of Epstein's abuse. ( BBC )

But the American media is still not interested in Ghislaine.

What the American mainstream media always willfully forgets is that Ghislaine Maxwell is the key person and mastermind behind the whole pedo sex trafficking operation.

The key role of Ghislaine is not surprising. After all, her father was an Israeli super spy, Robert Maxwell.

But perhaps this is the very reason why the American media is not interested.

For years Ghislaine has been at the center of a vast pedophile sex trafficking network. But still to this day the American police has never dared to even interview her.

She simply knows too much.

[Jul 09, 2020] Maxwell personally molested a lot of these girls

Notable quotes:
"... Ghislaine has to be made to talk. That's just a start. ..."
"... Part of me thinks they could all be scoundrels, one no better than the next. Knowing what I know about Jared Kushner's father has made me believe the worst. I'd like to think. We'll see. ..."
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In the wake of - and in spite of - his death, France began a preliminary investigation of Epstein for rape, etc., last year. He had an apartment in Paris and was returning to the US from there when he was arrested in New Jersey in July, 2019.

Could this answer speculation as to why Ghislaine Maxwell chose to settle here in the US instead of France?


FakeBot , 08 July 2020 at 07:03 PM

I can't make heads from tails here until I see more done. Clayton still has to get confirmed and Ghislaine has to be made to talk. That's just a start.

Part of me thinks they could all be scoundrels, one no better than the next. Knowing what I know about Jared Kushner's father has made me believe the worst. I'd like to think. We'll see.

Leith , 08 July 2020 at 07:10 PM

She has hired Christian Everdell for her defense. "He was named one of New York's 2019 Super Lawyers for white collar criminal defense." He used to be an Assistant US Attorney for SDNY where he helped convict El Chapo of the Sinaloa drug cartel.

A former colleague says he will do what is in the best interests of the client, but no doubt he will be talking to her about the benefits of becoming a cooperating witness.

turcopolier , 08 July 2020 at 07:26 PM

FakeBot

...She will sing to avoid dying in prison (she would make a splendid laundress).

turcopolier , 08 July 2020 at 07:31 PM

A. Pols

She personally molested a lot of these girls. She used sex toys and her fingers on their genitals to "train" them. That's all right by you?

[Jul 09, 2020] Prince Andrew's Cousin Says Ghislaine Maxwell Has Secret Video Of Him by Steve Watson

Jul 09, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Steve Watson via Summit News,

An acquaintance of Ghislaine Maxwell has told reporters that the socialite has secret video footage of Prince Andrew that was filmed during her time as Jeffrey Epstein's so called 'madam'.

Christina Oxenberg told The Sun that Andrew, the British Queen's son, "is one of many johns, all of whom were videotaped by Ghislaine."

"He is not a victim here, but Ghislaine was never his friend, she was taping him," Oxenberg added, noting that "Friends don't tape friends."

Oxenberg is the daughter of Princess Elizabeth of Yugoslavia, making her Prince Andrew's cousin.

She told reporters that she believes Maxwell is seeking to trade information with the FBI, and possibly the videos to save herself.

"I think she thinks she can get out, obviously she's planning on trading [information]," Oxenberg said.

Oxenberg says she was interviewed by the FBI last year in regards to the case, and that she is willing to testify against Maxwell.

The report claims that the royal said Maxwell previously bragged to her about obtaining underage girls under Epstein's influence.

"I will definitely be there to remind her that in '97, she told me copious amounts," Oxenberg said.

It is not clear if Oxenberg is the same person who was cited anonymously in another report this week claiming that Maxwell has secret sex tapes that "could implicate some twisted movers and shakers."

"If Ghislaine goes down, she's going to take the whole damn lot of them with her," the source told the Daily Mail .

As we highlighted last week, a lawyer for one of Epstein's accusers thinks that Ghislaine Maxwell could reveal a "bigger name" involved in Epstein's pedophile network in order to secure a plea deal following her arrest.

"I'm sure that Ghislaine's attorneys will try to make a deal where she speaks out about a bigger name to get reduced charges for herself," said Lisa Bloom

[Jul 08, 2020] The lawyer dunnit. - Sic Semper Tyrannis

Notable quotes:
"... who set up the dummy LLC through which the property was acquired? A law firm, right? And who found the place? Were they steered to this property by the FBI? ..."
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When I was a kid I used to drive my father back and forth from Sanford, Maine to Grenier, AFB at Manchester, NH. He had a retirement job at the base (long closed) as the budget analyst for the facility. He never learned to drive. Central New Hampshire is a forested and somewhat gloomy land both east and west of Manchester. Bradford looks to be 40 miles NW of Manchester. I never had any reason to go west of Manchester into the center of the state. All of central NH is a land of coniferous forest and tiny villages like Bradford. South of Manchester the scene is dominated by immigrants from Massachusetts centered around a big town, Nashua. The actual locals in greater NH refer to them as Massholes. They moved to NH to escape MA taxes.

A million bucks for 156 acres of pine and fir with a nice house and the wondrous barn mentioned above? Sounds like a great deal to me, even in an all cash deal. A million dollars wouldn't get you anything like that where I live at Alexandria in Occupied, Virginia now ruled by the Quisling Northam. So, who set up the dummy LLC through which the property was acquired? A law firm, right? And who found the place? Were they steered to this property by the FBI?

The FBI in NY gave a presser and handed out a memo on the "score." Why the NY City office of the FBI? My WAG would be that they have had one or more sources on the books in NY City telling them where she has been since her "disappearance," and keeping them up to date on her activities and location. Who? There must be at least one lawyer in the mix. A lot of lawyers would "rat out" a client in a heartbeat if approached by the FBI. They know the cost of refusing to cooperate.

The FBI brought the NYPD as well as the local flics to make this arrest? Why did they do that? I just checked in Wikipedia and Bradford has not been ceded to NY City.

My uber WAG would now be that she probably never left the US. In an age of digital passport controls at frontiers it is not easy to move around internationally without being reported electronically. I suppose she could have sneaked across the Canada/US border in northern New England, but she doesn't look the type for spooking around in some little border town or hiking through the Maine woods. And, the Canadians would have noticed her when she arrived at one of their airports even by private jet.

No, on balance I would bet that all the stuff about her residence in Israel or France is probably hot air, but I could be wrong. pl

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/07/07/metro/ghislaine-maxwells-new-hampshire/


FakeBot , 08 July 2020 at 11:08 AM

She could have escaped the country. Carlos Ghosn had escaped prosecution in Japan by hiding in a box taken aboard a private plane, eventually finding his way to Lebanon.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-50964040

Perhaps she felt she was untouchable. Or maybe Israel, where she would have been protected against extradition to the US, wasn't safe for her.

What I still can't grasp is the whole Berman/Clayton situation. There's no question she could have been arrested sooner. It seems Berman was blocking her arrest. Also there is a lot of resistance to Clayton's nomination. Even Senator Lindsay Graham, who has become something of an ally to Trump, has come out in opposition to it. It's very strange.

Oilman2 , 08 July 2020 at 12:06 PM

You aren't the only person thinking this strongly enough to write about it:

http://stateofthenation.co/?p=19070

It has enough irregularity in it to remind me of JFKjr plane crash. If she truly has the same goods as JE, then it would require days of testimony and corroboration, months even, along with locating and reviewing said actual physical evidence. It would not take a few days post-arrest; legal matters simply take forever at this level, and the more lawyers the longer it takes whether civil or criminal.

This reeks to me of a cover story for someone who had their ears pinned back months or years ago by one team or the other.

walrus , 08 July 2020 at 04:28 PM

I don't know but I suspect she calculated that she was safer in America than elsewhere. I think she was probably concerned about the British more than anyone else. Prince Andrew is a chump, but a Royal one.

I would expect that the FBI and perhaps her lawyers also lulled her into a false sense of security. - designed to keep her "within range" and perhaps over time she becomes careless enough to reveal the location of hidden evidence.

In my darkest moods I suspect she now needs to be "dealt with", perhaps to remove spoiling opportunities with one or more Democratic party candidates.

I am concerned for her safety. I am especially concerned that she be kept totally isolated from the rest of the prison population. We had a "super grass" crook - Carl Williams in jail here. He was singing about judicial corruption. He was inexplicably transferred to a unit shared with two homicidal inmates who murdered him. I say "inexplicable" since the prison governor responsible then went deer hunting near here and has not been seen since.

turcopolier , 08 July 2020 at 04:32 PM

fakebot

"What I still can't grasp is the whole Berman/Clayton situation. There's no question she could have been arrested sooner." Of course you "grasp it." Democrat big-wigs will be implicated if she talks. It is amusing how much this affair resembles the TeeVee Series "Billions."

NY is a caricature of the show.

Posted by: turcopolier , 08 July 2020 at 04:32 PM

[Jul 07, 2020] Ghislaine Maxwell Goes From Posh Hideout To COVID-Stricken 'Third World Country' NY Jail -

Is she a player or a patsi? What is the role of Wexler in this story?
Jul 07, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

For the first time in her privileged life, ex-socialite Ghislaine Maxwell is living in conditions described by one judge in 2016 as similar to a 'prison on Turkey or a Third World Country.'

The 58-year-old Maxwell was arrested after hiding out in a lavish four-bedroom, four-bathroom mansion in New Hampshire, which Bloomberg notes sports views of the Mount Sunapee foothills from every room.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/4uGgHrM1URw

After being initially booked in New Hampshire on multiple charges related to trafficking underage girls for the sexual gratification of dead pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, Maxwell was transferred on Monday to New York's Metropolitan Detention Center (MDC) - home to over 1,600 male and female detainees which was built at the turn of the 20th century and used during both world wars, according to Bloomberg .

No one wants to go to jail, but the conditions described at the MDC have been the subject of numerous complaints and scrutiny that rival the rat-infested federal lockup in Lower Manhattan where Epstein was held.

In early 2019, hundreds of inmates at the MDC were locked shivering in their cells for at least a week after an electrical fire knocked out power in the building. The inmates spent some of the coldest days of that winter in darkness, largely without heat and hot water. - Bloomberg

One inmate, Derrilyn Needham, has been incarcerated at MDC since last November along with 30 other women who slept in bunk beds. Needham said social distancing was difficult, and that for three days starting April 23, the women were on "lockdown on our bunk beds, not able to leave our bunks except to use the bathroom or shower.

She added that they hadn't been given gloves, hand sanitizer or disinfectant wipes - and that despite symptoms of COVID-19, the assistant warden said she couldn't receive a test for the virus.

According to The Intercept , " The number of reported coronavirus symptoms far exceeds the number of tests MDC has performed ." In May, the facility came under fire for allegedly destroying medical records "as part of a deliberate effort to obscure the number of incarcerated people infected with the coronavirus."

The report , filed Thursday as part of a putative class-action lawsuit by people held in custody at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn, casts doubt on assertions by the Bureau of Prisons , which runs the jail, and the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Eastern District, which serves as counsel for the bureau. The Bureau of Prisons and federal prosecutors have insisted in court that the situation at the jail is under control. But the medical examiner's report -- which contradicted prison assertions that Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidelines were being followed -- suggests that the six people in custody who have tested positive for the disease likely represent the tip of the iceberg . - The Intercept

After the pandemic began, the detention center was deemed "ill-equipped" to deal with the spread of COVID-19 by former chief medical officer for the city's jails, Homer Venters, who says he's "concerned about the ongoing health and safety of the population," and slammed administrators for failing to adequately deal with the pandemic.

That said, MDC has been on the receiving end of criticism over its conditions long before coronavirus was an issue.

Cheryl Pollak, the federal magistrate in Brooklyn, has repeatedly voiced concerns about the MDC after reviewing a report by the National Association of Women Judges, who visited the facility and found that 161 female inmates were housed 24 hours a day, seven days a week, in two large rooms that lacked windows, fresh air or sunlight and weren't allowed out to exercise. - Bloomberg

"Some of these conditions wouldn't surprise me if we were dealing with a prison in Turkey or a Third World Country," Pollak said during a 2016 hearing. "It's hard for me to believe it's going on in a federal prison."


White Nat , 30 minutes ago

Multiple charges related to trafficking underage girls for the sexual gratification of dead pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. These charges barely scratch the surface of what Maxwell and Epstein were guilty of.

JamesJOMeara , 4 hours ago

Anyone who thinks "Barr finally let the hammer down!" needs to ask themselves, if Maxwell is Public Enemy #1, why would they casually, matter of factly, ho-humly, stick her in the same lousy facility where 1. her partner Epstein mysterious croaked, and which 2. just happens to be filled with Corvid-19 cases. Why not stick her in an army base a la Frankie Five Angels? (Oops, that didn't work out either). Or some cell in Oklahoma? It's an obvious set up for her demise (though only a real crank would think the whole Corvid-19 was a set-up for this from the start.....) Oh, and by the way, that obviously isn't Ghislaine Maxwell.

OCnStiggs , 4 hours ago

Think outside the box:

If you wanted TOTAL and complete cooperation from Epstein's close associate, why not threaten her with the same fate as her boss? In fact, perhaps Epstein was sacrificed simply to put pressure on Maxwell.

She is the literal walking-talking black book who knows everything and everyone. She knows more than Epstein. She set everything up. Ever wonder why she stayed in the states? My guess, the Feds got to her 12 months ago and have been monitoring her calls since then. They have already worked out a plea bargain with her. And the woman seen going into a lock up? A double or Maxwell before they walk her out the front door and into a cab.

NOTHING can stop what is coming. NOTHING.

MsCreant , 4 hours ago

"The Latest Flu Hoo Hoo" posted a document below that is supposed to be the indictment. If true, it does not go into near enough detail.

Copy paste from below:

2020-095.pdf Ghislaine Maxwell Indictment, July 2, 2020 (7.1MB)

No other people, blackmail, intercourse, narrow number of years, there's nothing honey.

SubjectivObject , 4 hours ago
Roger Casement , 3 hours ago

It takes a village ...

SubjectivObject , 10 minutes ago

it takes a pillage

the latest flu hoo hoo , 5 hours ago

..G.M. sealed indictment:

2020-095.pdf Ghislaine Maxwell Indictment, July 2, 2020 (7.1MB)

MsCreant , 4 hours ago

If accurate, this is outrageous and NOT NEARLY ENOUGH on so many dimensions.

Is Acosta still on the case here? What the Intercourse Batman!

Someone needs to go down HARD for this bull ****.

Where is the ******* press? This should not be allowed to stand.

Justapleb , 5 hours ago

Clever deceptive wording. She's been arrested on charges "related to" sex trafficking underage kids. Not charges FOR sex trafficking of underage kids. If she got a parking ticket while kidnapping, raping, and killing a child, that parking ticket would be "related to" the murder.

Look how she is not charged for the sex trafficking itself! This is obviously a limited hangout. The documentary got the general public asking why she was living high on the hog, scot free.

So this is to placate the public more than tighten any screws.

Cigarshopper , 5 hours ago

After a life of luxury and then a night in the New York's Metropolitan Detention Center, you know she's told her lawyer to start wheeling and dealing to get her out of that hellhole. She'll be giving everybody up and handing over everything she has on the people who came through all of Epstein's properties. Maxwell couldn't make it through a year at this place or any federal penitentiary. With the entire world knowing what her proclivities are she'll be licking the pussies of every inmate locked up where ever she's sent.

JLM , 6 hours ago

Imagine putting a person of her status in a third world hole after engaging in crimes that could not in her wildest dreams ever be held accountable for. It was her right to do it "her way". How dare the world interfere... . This is not right.

joep3joep3 , 7 hours ago

I spent a weekend in Manhattan detention. I was one of the worst experiences in my life, all from a dui. Cockroaches, smells like piss, nowhere to lay down, metal benches, people screaming on drugs, gang members and very cold.

On the bright side, I got free representation lawyer, because everyone gets a free lawyer. That's the way they make money. Free lawyers that charge the state.

Roger Casement , 7 hours ago

******** Produced by Ewen Cameron Directed by Tavistock,

Who was the spy Robert Maxwell ? What treachery did he commit? Who did he work for? The Magic Circle. Who did he work for, really?

Fireman , 7 hours ago

Jizzlaid does Midnight Excess....

You're not taking me to the sanatorium!

"Some of these conditions wouldn't surprise me if we were dealing with a prison in Turkey or a Third World Country," Pollak said during a 2016 hearing. "It's hard for me to believe it's going on in a federal prison."

translation: It's not good for "expensive" juice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncbaQiK_NGw

Crime Ideas Always , 7 hours ago

This is all complete BS. Unless she is retarded, she never would have been in the US.

fersur , 8 hours ago

Unedited !

Racheal Chandler Is The Centerpiece *PizzaGate

Anson Moore

Racheal Chandler is a centerpiece for the entire deep state elite. She connects the Clintons and their Foundation, Jeffrey Epstein, The Royal Family , Hollywood & Government Leaders around the world. She references Spirit Cooking.

Trying her to Marina Abramovic and PizzaGate. She was photographed with Prince Andrew and Ghislaine Maxwell. Hollywood connects her to James Rothschild. Through Paris Hilton's sister Nicky marrying him. Her family owning the Los Angeles Times for over 100 Years, and getting her start at the Standard Hotel Chain.

So not only should Prince Andrew be worryed the list of names run long. The sick ties with Epstein & Ghislaine should open eyes. The best is yet to come the elite time is up.

BaNNeD oN THe RuN , 7 hours ago

Predator Lives Matter

cleg , 9 hours ago

They will throw Prince Andrew to the wolves....maybe a mid level banker or two. That 's it. Move along....nothing o see here

the latest flu hoo hoo , 9 hours ago

..it's a thin line...

...

We immediately noticed a peculiarity about the indictment document provided by Strauss. It covered only a brief 4-year period, running from 1994 through 1997. One of the main accusers of Maxwell, Virginia (Roberts) Giuffre, has credibly indicated in previous court filings that Epstein and Maxwell sexually abused her "between 1999 and 2002." That should lengthen the scope of the indictment by five additional years.

...

The Southern District of New York, home to some of the biggest and most powerful Wall Street banks and their attorneys, who cycle in and out of jobs in that office, might have a strong reason to want to keep Giuffre's claims out of this case. Giuffre has stated the following in a previous court filing against Epstein:

"In addition to being continually exploited to satisfy Defendant's every sexual whim, Plaintiff was also required to be sexually exploited by Defendant's adult male peers, including royalty, politicians, academicians, businessmen, and/or other professional and personal acquaintances most of these acts of abuse occurred during a time when Defendant knew that Plaintiff was approximately 15, 16 and 17 years old "

Indicative of how things work in the Southern District of New York, Maxwell's lawyer in the case is Christian Everdell of Cohen & Gresser. Everdell spent almost a decade as an Assistant U.S. Attorney in that office before arriving at Cohen & Gresser in 2017.

There is an abundance of evidence to be suspicious of how the U.S. Attorney's office is handling this case. It is 14 years that the Justice Department has been sitting on the case against Maxwell.

The Palm Beach, Florida Police Chief, Michael Reiter, handed a deeply investigated case against Epstein and Maxwell over to the FBI in July of 2006 according to the intrepid reporting of Julie K. Brown in the Miami Herald in November of 2018. Brown indicated that it took just eight months of FBI interviews for the U.S. Attorney's office in Florida to have a 53-page Federal indictment ready to file against Epstein involving sexual assaults against dozens of underage girls.

But the indictment was never filed. A "deal" was worked out by then U.S. Attorney, Alex Acosta, and Epstein's well-connected lawyers. Federal charges were dropped against Epstein and he was allowed to plead guilty to only Florida state charges: one count of soliciting sex from a minor and one count of soliciting sex from an adult woman. Epstein was able to serve just 13 months in jail while also given a work release program to sit in his well-appointed office 12 hours a day, and driven around by his chauffeured limo. The deal was so outrageously constructed that it even denied his victims knowledge of the terms of the deal.

It was only because of the public outrage that was unleashed by Brown's reporting in the Miami Herald and her emotional personal video interviews with Epstein's victims, that the Justice Department was forced to bring new charges in 2019. Those charges were brought by the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York, the same office that just indicted Maxwell.

...

https://wallstreetonparade.com/2020/07/ghislaine-maxwell-wall-streets-secrets-and-the-u-s-attorneys-office/

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https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article221404845.html

Able Ape , 9 hours ago

This whole thing smells... Why wasn't she taken out when Jeffy exited the stage in some form or another... You can't tell me that nobody knew where she was... Nothing makes sense about this...

Murph , 10 hours ago

What I genuinely don't understand is that, given Maxwell's power and connections, given the total corruption of the alphabet agencies, how was she not spirited away to Israel and given a new identity? Instead she's arrested without trouble on American soil. I truly don't get it.

fersur , 10 hours ago

Unedited - WTF made into f-li-ck !

Ghislaine Maxwell seems to be going through hell right now, only she doesn't want you to know it danielgbates Jul 4

'What the flick is going on seriously, what the flick', said the English woman's voice. It was minutes before the first appearance for Ghislaine Maxwell at federal court in New Hampshire was due to start and the voice unexpectedly came on the dial-in line for journalists. The voice appeared extremely upset and said: 'I don't understand'. She repeated it again but broke down in tears and couldn't finish the word. I heard her say 'I'm trying' but all you could hear was sobbing. A court officer came on and said: 'Please mute your lines, people' and she was gone. By the time the hearing began she was a different person, calm and composed, her working class accent replaced by the familiar cut glass English voice telling the world: I'm in control.

But what we heard moments before appeared to be Ghislaine Maxwell caught on a hot mic, unaware that dozens of journalists, including me, were listening in to her. She sounded confused and in complete disbelief.

For somebody who has lived in privilege her whole life, you can imagine that this did not compute. Plucked from her $1m, 156-acre New Hampshire estate at 8.30am by FBI agents, she was now appearing in a federal court via video link from the Merrimack county jail. How could this happen to me. This isn't right. I don't understand, or as she apparently put it: 'Seriously, what the flick?'

You can't help but feel that Maxwell is having a taste of what her alleged victims have been going through for years. A feeling that you are no longer in control of your own life, a feeling that your sense of power has been stripped away from you. Both sound horrible and like nothing anyone should ever go through but, as her alleged victims no doubt see it, they couldn't happen to a nicer person.

I really hope that the federal authorities ensure that Maxwell lives to face a trial. After such a long wait her victims deserve that much, and she deserves due process (an unpopular view among some, perhaps, but everyone deserves it, even terrorists). Maxwell denies all the allegations that she was Epstein's 'madam' who arranged underage girls for him to have sex with, and sometimes took part in the abuse. But the evidence against her is compelling and you just have to look at the flight logs from Epstein's planes to raise serious questions. How will she answer this? 'Tell me Miss Maxwell, what were you doing flying 815 times between 1995 and 2007 on a private jet called the Lolita Express with a man who in 2009 became a registered sex offender who had admitted having raped underage girls?'

I suspect that the timing of Maxwell's arrest has to do with the compensation scheme for Epstein's victims starting taking applications a week before, on June 25. Under the programme, victims of Epstein can submit their cases for money from his estate with all $650m apparently up for grabs and no upper cap. But there is one catch: the victims have to stay any civil action against Epstein's estate in order to get the money. Until Maxwell was charged it meant they had to make the awful choice between compensation and chasing justice through the civil courts. That was essentially a re-run of Epstein's 2008 sweetheart plea deal only this time they had to give their approval to it (which in some ways is worse). But now Maxwell has been indicted there is no conflict: they can stay their civil cases and watch as Maxwell's case works its way through the courts. It must be a huge relief for them all.

The two perjury charges against Maxwell show that her arrogance has been one of the things that brought her down. Epstein invoked his Fifth Amendment during every deposition and walked out when asked about the shape of penis (egg shaped, if you're curious -- you have attorney Spencer Kuvin to thank for that gem). Maxwell wasn't as crafty and at one point banged a table in frustration at the 'lies' being told about her. She lost her head and lost her cool and said 'I don't know what you're talking about' when asked if Epstein had a scheme to recruit underage girls. Asked if she knew Epstein used sex toys in sexual activities, she said 'no'. According to federal prosecutors, these were both lies, and she was talking under oath. Why didn't she just keep her mouth shut and plead the Fifth? To me it's baffling.

1 of 2 !

fersur , 10 hours ago

2 of 2 !

One of the really sweet ironies about Epstein killing himself (at least, that's what the autopsy said) is that it almost certainly made Maxwell's arrest more likely. Much has been written about how Epstein did his best to shaft his victims by setting up a trust to manage his financial affairs in the USVI two days before he died. That didn't work out because was we now know they could get all his (declared) money in compensation. But the real kicker is that with his death the no.1 target of the FBI's investigation became Maxwell. Would she have been arrested if he was still alive? Maybe, but it was far less likely.

With his final act Epstein stuck a knife in the back of the person who was one his girlfriend and right hand woman. That's loyalty for you.

Bearing that in mind why wouldn't Maxwell talk to the prosecutors to save herself? It's not like Epstein is still around for her to protect, and even if he was, do you think she'd care? And if Maxwell is talking then, oh boy, that makes this case even more interesting. In a mafia investigation you'd get the guys lower down the ladder first and them to build a case against the boss. But if you've already got the boss, who do you use her to get?

Stravaig , 10 hours ago

But why is she in the US anyway? Was she kept here? Who has what plans for her and her knowledge?

Bastiat , 10 hours ago

Maybe she's be "laundered" through the US "justice" system.

Felix da Kat , 10 hours ago

Ghislaine (S is silent) Maxwell is the youngest of ten siblings (two of whom have passed away.)

Father was Jewish (non-observant,) her mother, Anglican. All children were raised Anglican by their not-so-strict mother. The children enjoyed a wildly privileged upbringing akin to that of the Royals.

Ghislaine's father, the 6'4" Robert Maxwell, led a colorful life but over-reached and his publishing empire began to crack. He died in 1991 after falling overboard from his 180' motor yacht, "Lady Ghislaine," (named for his favorite child.) He suffered a heart attack (probably while struggling to climb back aboard) and drowned.

Ghislaine was said to be the apple of his eye.

The fate of Ghislaine is sad, really. It didn't have to be that way. She fell under the spell of Epstein. Epstein was the wealthy father figure coveted by Ghislaine to fill in the void left by her father's death.

Growing up, she was "Daddy's precious girl." After the death of her father in '91 when she was 29, she longed for that bond of closeness and security which she saw in surrogate Epstein. But Epstein used her and abused her for his own gratification and surely coerced her into fulfilling the "pimp" role that Epstein required to live the prurient life he demanded.

Ghislaine is not without significant guilt but she was not the ringleader; that was Epstein. I predict she won't be sentenced as severely as many would like. And rightly so because Epstein prodded her into doing much of, if not all of what she did that was criminal. She needed Epstein; he was her oxygen.

That said, the crime of pedophilia and corruption of minors is a reprehensible crime for which she must pay.

"Mercy to the criminal is violence to the victim"

NH property location: 43.217254, -71.997862 Google maps for birds eye view

progro , 10 hours ago

Don't be an apologist. Many people have bad upbringings and turn out to be outstanding members of our community.

Because she was a spoiled brat and was the daughter of an embezzler gives her a break with the lack of judgement she had?

Stanley Kubrick , 10 hours ago

"Ghislaine's father, the 6'4" Robert Maxwell, led a colorful life but over-reached and his publishing empire began to crack."

You mean, Robert Maxwell aka "the bouncing Czech"? The man behind the $500 million dollar pension-fraud scandal?

Revisionist history.

f society , 10 hours ago

I get the pessimism, but this time feels different...

REPORT: Epstein Associate Ghislane Maxwell Possesses "Stash of Pedophile Sex Tapes"

She will absolutely sell everyone out for a plea deal.

FreeMoney , 7 hours ago

I think both Epstein and his Mossad handler Gislane, will have multiple backups of incriminating evidence on hundreds of politicians, judges, academics, celebrities, and business leaders ( not the shareholders, but the hired guns ), for exactly this set of circumstances.

[Jul 07, 2020] The first New York City court appearance for Ghislaine Maxwell may be Friday, July 10 - Sic Semper Tyrannis

Jul 07, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

The first New York City court appearance for Ghislaine Maxwell may be Friday, July 10

By Robert Willmann

(Update, Tuesday, 7 July: The hearing is now set for Tuesday morning, 14 July)--

https://turcopolier.typepad.com/files/gmaxwell_letter_hearing_to_be_14july.pdf

After being arrested in Bradford, New Hampshire last Thursday, before the Fourth of July weekend, Ghislaine Maxwell, charged with helping Jeffrey Epstein abuse underage girls, may have her arraignment, initial appearance, and bail hearing in Manhattan, New York City on Friday afternoon, 10 July.

In a letter dated and filed in the federal court on Sunday, 5 July, the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York (SDNY) said that when in New Hampshire Maxwell had what would have been a brief appearance before a judge. This is required after an arrest, and is to occur "without unnecessary delay" [1].--

https://turcopolier.typepad.com/files/gmaxwell_letter_initial_appearance.pdf

The government asked that Maxwell be detained in custody until a trial, in a paper filed the day of the arrest. The motion for detention contains a few items of interest. She was born in France and is a citizen of and appears to have passports for at least France, Britain, and the U.S. The request for detention says: " Based on the Government's investigation to date, the Government has identified more than 15 different bank accounts held by or associated with the defendant from 2016 to the present, and during that same period, the total balances of those accounts have ranged from a total of hundreds of thousands of dollars to more than $20 million"--

https://turcopolier.typepad.com/files/gmaxwell_motion_to_detain.pdf

The criminal indictment of Maxwell, which was unsealed the day of the arrest on 2 July, charges a curious time period of only "at least in or about 1994, up to and including at least in or about 1997", and refers to only three victims--

https://turcopolier.typepad.com/files/gmaxwell_indictment.pdf

The very limited written criminal charge can of course be seen as an opening gambit by the prosecution, since it can be expanded in a superseding indictment.

The letter filed with the court clerk identifies Christian Everdell as the current attorney for Maxwell; he had been a federal prosecutor in the SDNY for nearly 10 years [2]. In court documents a familiar surname appears as one of the SDNY co-prosecutors for the federal government -- Maurene Comey -- who was in the same role in the aborted prosecution of Jeffrey Epstein. The legal communities in New York City and Washington D.C. are two little clubs that sometimes tend to overlap.

If a court hearing takes place Friday, it will probably duplicate some of what happened in New Hampshire on 2 July. The big issue at this time is whether Ghislaine Maxwell will remain in custody or be released on bail under some specific conditions. Her arrest was described in an article in the British Daily Mail newspaper [3].

Documents from the 2 July court proceeding in New Hampshire have now been filed in the SDNY. Here are three of the 33 pages: the court clerk's docket sheet from Concord, New Hampshire, and the arrest warrant, which was authorized at the courthouse in White Plains, New York, and not in Manhattan! The pages that are excluded are the indictment, the order allowing a hearing by video and telephone conference, the commitment order to send Maxwell to the SDNY, and three pages that basically duplicate the clerk's docket sheet--

https://turcopolier.typepad.com/files/gmaxwell_new_hampshire_court_docs.pdf

The case is multi-sided. Ghislaine's father, Robert Maxwell, was a publisher who also was caught up in financial machinations. He died under mysterious circumstances in 1991 when he was found in the water outside of his large boat in the area of the Canary Islands. There were rumors he had relationships with government intelligence agencies. He was given a large funeral in Israel attended by Israeli politicians and was buried in a cemetery there. Ghislaine's close relationship with Jeffrey Epstein is part of the factual foundation of the pending case. Epstein had been protected from criminal liability by the U.S. government through the Department of Justice which became evident in state and federal criminal cases developed against him in Florida that resulted in a disgraceful plea deal in Florida state court and in an equally disgraceful and concealed non-prosecution agreement with the federal government. Only through the determination of Florida attorney Bradley Edwards and Utah lawyer Paul Cassell, a former federal judge, was the perfidy of the federal government and Justice Department revealed through their lawsuit against the government under the Crime Victims' Rights Act--

https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2019/07/alex-acosta-let-the-cat-out-of-the-bag-the-justice-department-knew-all-about-the-jeffrey-epstein-plea-deal.html

Jeffery Epstein made some court appearances in his criminal case in the SDNY before he was said to have been found dead in the Manhattan federal Metropolitan Corrections Center from an "apparent suicide", when cameras were not working, blah blah blah. That explanation was rightfully laughed out of town. In terms of probability, Epstein was either murdered in the jail or was helped to escape.

And now here comes Ghislaine Maxwell.

[1] Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 5. Initial Appearance.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title18a-node35-title2-rule5&num=0&edition=prelim

https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_5

[2] https://www.cohengresser.com/attorney/christian-r-everdell/

[3] https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8490443/FBI-agents-smashed-door-Ghislaine-Maxwells-bolthole-hauled-handcuffs.html


Posted by: turcopolier , 06 July 2020 at 01:57 PM

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I read that one of the victims listened to the arraignment on the telephone and a woman with a British accent could be heard sobbing and wailing in background and saying "How could this happen? How can this be?" Sounds like she thought she had her stay in NH "wired up."

blue peacock , 06 July 2020 at 04:37 PM

IMO, anyone expecting that the plutocrat pedo ring will be busted will be sorely disappointed and is not paying attention to justice in contemporary America!

Sir Epstein was reportedly at the epicenter of a pedo ring for decades. He clearly engaged in all this with impunity for a long while. Including getting a sweetheart deal from the US attorney in Miami who landed up as Trump's Labor Secretary. This indictment is for the period 1994-97 so far. It would imply that Prince Andrew and Dershowitz are off the hook. Also, Virginia Roberts Guiffre's sex trafficking claims are not part of this indictment, while a judge has ordered her to destroy evidence. She also has a defamation case against Ghislaine Maxwell.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8483209/Attorneys-representing-Virginia-Giuffre-ordered-destroy-evidence.html

Master Slacker , 06 July 2020 at 04:51 PM

Given the American take on jail permeability, I wonder how long she will survive.

Barbara Ann , 06 July 2020 at 05:53 PM

Robert, thanks for keeping us up to speed with the legal details.

Do you have an opinion on whether count three's mention of co-conspirators may be significant, or the fact that the Public Corruption Unit are handling the case?

Colonel, my first thought when I heard the story of the sobbing woman with a British accent was that it could easily have be staged, so as to give the impression of justice being done. Cynicism is hard to escape in this case, though I try to keep an open mind.

TV , 06 July 2020 at 06:24 PM

We'll find out if Bill Barr is for real or just another swamp creature in sheep's clothing. Still waiting on the Durham "investigation" and the election is only 4 months away.

English Outsider , 06 July 2020 at 07:19 PM

Fred - You mention the Duke of York. I don't think he's all there - https://foreignpolicy.com/2010/12/01/wikileaks-reveals-the-mixed-blessings-of-royal-diplomacy/

"I can't judge Prince Andrew; we've all been young once," Jordan's Prince Hassan told an English interviewer. I'm not sure whether that's a barbed comment or not given that the Duke is scarcely in his first youth.

"Andrew is naive and unworldly, a product of the royal bubble." says another scandal sheet. I suspect he may well be innocent of everything except naivety.

Naivety in the Epstein circle could lead to a lot of trouble. I'm surprised the Palace establishment let one of their charges out without a minder. Bit late now.

JP Billen , 06 July 2020 at 08:05 PM

Let's hope the Federal Detention Center in Brooklyn is more secure than the one in Manhattan where Epstein was held. What about Epstein's other accomplices that helped to recruit underage girls? Maxwell was just one of several.

Wiki entry on Maxwell says that she also associated with Kevin Spacey a self-confessed a$$ bandit. So the question arises, was she also pimping out underage poolboys?

TV , 06 July 2020 at 09:52 PM

This is a very good read on Ghislaine's options:
https://medium.com/@dylanhoward/ghislaines-last-stand-if-epstein-s-accomplice-tells-all-will-the-fallout-be-too-much-even-for-u-s-8fc87089da

Dan , 06 July 2020 at 09:59 PM

I read an interesting point I can't really evaluate on my own, which is that the prosecution is coming out of the FBI's Public Corruption Unit, which is a department specifically designed to deal with issues arising from prosecution of politicians. Reportedly they suss out subtle quid-pro-quos, rarely settle, and indicates there could be more interesting layers to this case.

mcohen , 06 July 2020 at 10:25 PM

https://theconversation.com/these-are-the-customers-who-support-sex-trafficking-in-the-us-121866

Looks like they were in good company

FakeBot , 06 July 2020 at 10:40 PM

Senator Graham won't nominate Clayton:

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/503711-graham-signals-he-wont-take-up-us-attorney-pick-without-schumer-gillibrand

The fact Graham won't approve Trump's nominee to oversee the case against Ghislaine is very odd.

Vegetius , 06 July 2020 at 11:29 PM

Anyone who ever appeared in a picture partying with Epstein needs to be questioned up to, and including, POTUS.

But let's start with Cindy McCain.

johnf , 07 July 2020 at 02:12 AM

More on the Steele story here:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jul/06/peer-baffled-by-claims-he-was-targeted-by-fake-pr-campaign-to-boost-huawei

Charlie Wilson , 07 July 2020 at 09:13 AM

Does she have an Izzy passport or not? Other passports are worthless.

[Jul 05, 2020] Epstein at Bear Stearns ran brokerage errands for the CIA money launderers and pimps of BCCI. Epstein bragged about being CIA and Ohio state VIPs believed him.

Jul 03, 2020 | www.unz.com

Epstein brought CIA drug smugglers Southern Air Transport to Columbus. Epstein at Bear Stearns ran brokerage errands for the CIA money launderers and pimps of BCCI. Epstein bragged about being CIA and Ohio state VIPs believed him.

Epstein skated for the Tower Financial ponzi scheme that topped up CIA's covert-crime slush fund after CIA proprietary BCCI stole everybody's money and blew up. Epstein got bankrolled by CIA's famous secret agent Adnan Kashoggi. Epstein smuggled an enormously illegal NYPD shotgun in through British customs, using CIA agent Ed Wilson's old trick for impressing foreign VIPs. Federal prosecutors convict 99.8% of their perps, but one let Epstein off the hook for his giant pedo whorehouse because he was told Epstein belonged to intelligence.

You would not have thought it was possible, but Epstein with his hilariously fake hedge fund is more blatantly CIA than Imran Awan. So clearly we need six thousand more internet bullshitters screaming about pervy Mossad blackmailers – CIA is hopelessly busted for everybody with a 3-digit IQ.

[Jul 03, 2020] I don't think we can assume that even now Trump actually has control of the FBI; it is still in hands of Obama faction

Highly recommended!
FBI does have strong levers on Trump. This is the essence of the "Deep State" concept -- intelligence agencies became unhinged and work as a powerful political actors.
Notable quotes:
"... Thank you Mina, yes that or the deep state throwing down the gauntlet. I don't think we can assume that Trump actually has control of the FBI. If he did he would likely have deep sixed the Democrazis through the Awan family spy and blackmail scam. But he didn't. They and Debbie Wasserman Shultz were protected/had dirt on DT. ..."
Jul 03, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
uncle tungsten , Jul 3 2020 7:08 utc | 107

Mina #101

Maxwell's arrest makes me wonder if it is not about Trump throwing down the gauntlet?

Thank you Mina, yes that or the deep state throwing down the gauntlet. I don't think we can assume that Trump actually has control of the FBI. If he did he would likely have deep sixed the Democrazis through the Awan family spy and blackmail scam. But he didn't. They and Debbie Wasserman Shultz were protected/had dirt on DT.

If the kiddy fiddlers get outed following Ghislaine dropping some of her likely thousands of hours of home movies then that includes Trump and Biden.

In the fetid atmosphere of accusations against pussy grabbers and finger f#ckers and hair sniffers neither could survive. The pack will run rabid.

Is there a woman in the house? Yes, they cried AND she has experience!! Plus the campaign will be televised and it would be a virtual campaign because Covid. No need to rig audience, the polls or the balllot.

[Jul 03, 2020] Maxwell, Epstein and financial oligarchy

Jul 03, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

uncle tungsten , Jul 3 2020 8:46 utc | 118

Richard Steven Hack #115

The question now is: How do they stop Ghislaine from testifying? Having her "commit suicide" in her cell with all the cell block cameras off starts to look a little, I don't know, "blatant", wouldn't one think?

Well, blatant is not a concept that the oligarch class actually feel any problem with.

[Jul 03, 2020] Ghislaine Maxwell Arrested In New Hampshire

Jul 02, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Update (1215ET): Acting US Attorney Audrey Strauss said that "this case against Ghislaine Maxwell is a prequel to the earlier case that we brought against Jeffrey Epstein,"

" Maxwell lied because the truth, as alleged, was almost unspeakable. Maxwell enticed minor girls, got them to trust her, then delivered them into the trap that she and Epstein had set for them. She pretended to be a woman they could trust..."

" We were working hard on this investigation this past year. It's not easy to put together a case that goes back that far. There's nothing other than we did the investigation, and we were ready at this time to proceed."

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Strauss said that the firing of Former US Attorney Geoffrey Berman did not affect timing of this arrest "at all". We will likely never know one way or another but the timing is definitely interesting.

Finally, asked about a royal connection, Strauss declines to update on the status of anyone in an investigation but says that she "would welcome Prince Andrew coming in to talk with us."

"We would like to have the benefit of his statement," Strauss said, adding their doors remain open.

We will not be holding our breath.

Additionally, FBI New York Assistant Director in Charge William Sweeney, Jr. said investigators have been discreetly keeping tabs on Maxwell's location and found that she had "slithered away" to a "gorgeous" home in Bradford, New Hampshire, where she was arrested Thursday without incident.

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Having been decidedly off-the-radar for months since the controversial 'suicide' of Jeffrey Epstein, NBC New York reports that Ghislaine Maxwell, has been arrested by the FBI and charged by federal prosecutors.

Multiple senior law enforcement officials reportedly said the British socialite and heiress was arrested in New Hampshire on Epstein-related charges and is expected to appear in a federal court later today .

The long-time friend and confidante of Jeffrey Epstein was alleged to have helped Epstein groom teen girls for sex with the rich and powerful.

As Adam Klasfeld reports, the indictment reads that:

"[Ghislaine] Maxwell assisted, facilitated and contributed to Jeffrey Epstein's abuse of minor girls by, among other things, helping Epstein to recruit, groom, and ultimately abuse victims ...

"The victims were as young as 14."

"In particular, between in or about 1994 and in or about 1997, MAXWELL was in an intimate relationship with Epstein and also was paid by Epstein to manage his various properties."

Ghislaine has been accused by three women of procuring and training young girls to perform massage and sexual acts on Epstein and his associates.

Virginia Giuffre (previously named Virginia Roberts), one of Epstein's alleged victims, claimed in a civil lawsuit that Maxwell "recruited" her into Epstein's orbit, where she was forced to have sex with Epstein and his powerful friends, including Prince Andrew.

Giuffre asserts in her complaint that Maxwell, the sole defendant in the suit and the daughter of late publishing magnate Robert Maxwell, routinely recruited underaged girls for Epstein and was doing so when she approached the $9-an-hour locker room attendant at Mar-a-Lago in 1999 about giving massages to the wealthy investment banker.

Giuffre alleges that Maxwell ultimately trained her in how to give "massages" to Epstein that involved sex acts and, essentially, prostitution . When Maxwell publicly denied the allegations and called Giuffre a liar in 2015, that gave her the opening to head to federal court and file the defamation suit now headed for trial. - Politico

Maxwell's Her new luxury abode is only a short five-minute drive from Epstein's £7million pad on Avenue Foch (pictured)

In May we noted that the accused 'madam' was reportedly holed up in a luxury apartment on Paris's Avenue Matignon - just a five minute drive from the dead pedophile's $8.6 million flat.

Maxwell "is moving locations every month to keep private investigators off her tail and is ­staying at the residences of trusted colleagues and contacts," according to a source.

"She wants to remain in France for as long as she can to take advantage of extradition laws and has a huge network of contacts willing to keep her hidden," they added. " Under French law anyone born on French soil is safe from extradition to another country, regardless of the alleged crime. "

As Esquire's Gabrielle Bruney explained in May, Maxwell is the youngest of Elisabeth and Robert Maxwell's nine children, and was born in France in 1961 . The family lived in an English mansion, and her father was the founder of a media empire and served in Parliament . Maxwell attended one of the UK's most exclusive boarding schools and then Oxford University. As members of British high society, Maxwell mingled with some of the nation's most celebrated families, and became friends with Prince Andrew .

Her father died in 1991, after falling off his yacht and drowning. It's been speculated that his death may have been a suicide , as on the day he died he was due to meet with the Bank of England over the matter of his being in default on millions in loans. After his death, the British media dubbed him the " crook of the century ," when it was revealed that he'd taken hundreds of millions of pounds from his employees pension funds. Maxwell told one news outlet after her father's death that she felt he was murdered .

She moved to the United States the year of her father's death, and soon met Jeffrey Epstein. The relationship marked a second reversal of fortunes for Maxwell, whose family lost much of its wealth after her father's death. In 2000, she moved into a $4.95 million Manhattan townhouse purchased "by an anonymous limited liability company, with an address that matches the office of J. Epstein & Co. Representing the buyer was Darren Indyke, Mr. Epstein's longtime lawyer." She was his companion for years, managing his households and introducing him to her society friends

Maxwell and her father in 1984.

According to a lawsuit she filed this year in hopes of winning funds from the late financier's estate, "While under Epstein's employ, Maxwell was responsible for managing Epstein's properties located in New York, Paris, Florida, New Mexico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands."

"During the course of their relationship, including while Maxwell was in Epstein's employ," the lawsuit reads , "Epstein promised Maxwell that he would support her financially. Epstein made these promises to Maxwell repeatedly, both in writing and in conversation."

However, a 2003 Vanity Fair profile of Epstein denied that Maxwell was an employee.

After Epstein's 2008 conviction for soliciting prostitution from an underage girl, the two appeared to end their public association. In 2009, accuser Virginia Roberts Giuffre filed a civil suit against Epstein accusing him and Maxwell of grooming her into their alleged sex trafficking ring. However, Maxwell remained a fixture in New York society until around 2015. In 2012, she founded an environmental nonprofit called The TerraMar project, which folded in late 2019.

Epstein with Maxwell in 1995

Though multiple survivors have alleged that Maxwell participated in Epstein's alleged crimes, she's never been criminally charged. One thing that could stymie potential efforts to level charges against Maxwell is the infamous 2008 plea deal that Epstein struck with the US Attorney for Miami, Alexander Acosta , which found him serving just 13 months in prison after initially facing charges that could have garnered him a life sentence. Jeffrey Epstein: Filthy Rich producer Joe Berlinger described the deal to Esquire as "unprecedented, unheard of sweetheart deal" that "included a non-prosecution agreement for named and unnamed co-conspirators."

In April, an appeals court upheld the 2007 deal, writing in its opinion that the decision was "not a result we like, but it's the result we think the law requires."

Maxwell at a 2016 event.

Maxwell is currently suing Epstein's estate for money for her legal fees, and for the price of private security, alleging that her " prior employment relationship " with Epstein has caused to her be subjected to death threats.

As Jonathan Turley notes , frankly, as a criminal defense lawyer, I am surprised that Maxwell risked returning to the United States. She was believed to be living in Paris. It was well-known that the Justice Department was pursuing the case, including demands to interview Prince Andrew.

Her arrest may be unnerving for figures like Prince Andrew. She would be the ultimate cooperating witness if she decided to cooperate on broader criminal inquiries. Giuffre and others have alleged that she was the primary procurer of young girls for Epstein to abuse.

Such prosecutions are not easy given the passage of time. However, the government clearly has live witnesses like Giuffre who might have a significant impact on a jury. The government would have to show more than her mere presence at these homes or parties.

Interestingly, Turley notes that the improper role played by the Justice Department in the original Epstein case deal may actually help it now with any prosecution of Maxwell.

[Jul 03, 2020] Why now? That was the obvious question a year ago with Epstein

Notable quotes:
"... Will we go from Epstein-gate, to Ukraine-gate, to Impeachment-gate, to Corona911-gate, to BLM-gate and now to Maxwell-gate – with perhaps a not so subtle attempt to piss all over Bill Clinton, since these alleged crimes were when he was commander in chief? ..."
"... This mean Maxwell can be jailed for contempt of court, should she continue to run and hide; that is: ignore court orders in this civil lawsuit. ..."
"... With today's jailing of her by the DOJ, on what looks like the same facts as in the civil case, [though it may not be; even if the 1994 to 1997 time period is the same] --- Maxwell's concerns about the civil case now pale in comparison with the new, criminal case against her. That is, assuming DOJ gets conviction. ..."
"... So one question I don't know answer to is: why did she remain in the US? ..."
"... We'll see if Maxwell-gate can trump BLM-gate, and all manner of other sorts of Hang Outs happening before our eyes. ..."
"... I am reminded of Don Corleone's speech: ..."
"... I'm a superstitious man, and if some unlucky accident should befall Michael - if he is to be shot in the head by a police officer, or be found hung dead in a jail cell... or if he should be struck by a bolt of lightning - then I'm going to blame some of the people in this room; and then I do not forgive. But with said, I pledge - on the souls of my grandchildren - that I will not be the one to break the peace that we have made today. ..."
Jul 02, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com
02 July 2020 at 11:11 PM

Ghislaine Maxwell, arrested, in jail.

Why now?

Southern District of New York US Attorney Audrey Strauss says crimes they are prosecuting are for years
1994 to 1997

Bill Clinton was president.

Don't laugh.

There is little information on how long the feds knew where she was, that they say was Bedford, NH.

According to NYMAG.com: [["An eye was being kept" on Maxwell was about all that Audrey Strauss]] said.

That is past tense, was being kept, assuming this is accurate information.

For how long, months, days, years, decades, all the way back to the 1970s?

CNN framed it this way:
[[FBI New York Assistant Director in Charge William Sweeney said that bureau officials "have been discreetly keeping tabs" on Maxwell who had "slithered away to a gorgeous property" in New Hampshire.

"We learned she had slithered away to a gorgeous property in New Hampshire, continuing to live a live a life of privilege while her victims continue to live with the trauma inflicted upon them years ago. We moved when we were ready and Ms. Maxwell was arrested without incident," he said.

Sweeney said that the FBI, along with the NYPD, arrested Maxwell in Bradford, New Hampshire, this morning without incident.

Audrey Strauss, acting US Attorney for the Southern District of New York, explained the process that led to Maxwell's arrest: "an eye was being kept, and information was being collected and then the indicted was just recently voted and filed and that is when we were able and prepared to move to arrest her."

Sweeney said that indictment alleges that from 1994 until 1997, Maxwell assisted Epstein in committing crimes against minors.]]

Strauss said and the indictment of Maxwell says, numerous times: 1994 to 1997 alleged crimes, aiding and abetting Epstein.

What is interesting, at least to me, in a news report by The Guardian – this report say that the DOJ said that Maxwell had the ability to get out of the US.

Which begs the questions: Then why the hell didn't she? The feds don't explain that part.

The Guardian:

The sprawling property in Bradford where she was arrested was purchased "through a carefully anonymized LLC", federal prosecutors said. Maxwell also has the money to flee if let out on bail, they maintained

Will we go from Epstein-gate, to Ukraine-gate, to Impeachment-gate, to Corona911-gate, to BLM-gate and now to Maxwell-gate – with perhaps a not so subtle attempt to piss all over Bill Clinton, since these alleged crimes were when he was commander in chief?

One other thing that may be related to the timing of this apprehension of her.

One of the alleged victims of Maxwell, who, according to a civil lawsuit filed against her in federal court in January. . . well, there was a "tiny problem."

The lawyer for the plaintiff, a Jane Doe, who claims to have been a young teen – when: "It all started in 1994 when 13-year-old Jane Doe met Epstein and Defendant Ghislaine Maxwell at a summer camp in Michigan. . . ."

This civil complaint says: "In 1997, while at Epstein's townhouse on 9 East 71st Street in the city of New York, Epstein asked the 17-year old Doe if she had a boyfriend. Doe replied that she did not. Epstein responded that when she did have a boyfriend she would want the sex to be 'good' and that she should 'get it over with already' meaning lose her virginity. Despite Doe's resistance, Epstein then pushed Doe down onto her stomach and raped her. From that point forward for several years in New York, Epstein raped Doe on multiple occasions. During Doe's time in New York, Maxwell also regularly facilitated Epstein's abuse of Doe and was frequently present when it occurred."

Any ways, the little problem was that: despite numerous times the Jane Doe lawyer tried to serve Maxwell, many times, this lawyer always came up empty.

But on June 15, the presiding federal judge ruled that. . . that because of certain judicial rules and because of the numerous attempts, the judge deemed that Maxwell had been served.

Doe's lawyer, the judge ruled, had done enough to demonstrate service; and thus the service attempts were deemed to have been "reasonably calculated to place Maxwell on notice of this suit and to constitute sufficient service under the circumstances presented here."

Thus Maxwell must respond, in a federal civil lawsuit brought by an alleged rape victim, that this plaintiff claims the pair [her and Epstein] betook against her.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.530336/gov.uscourts.nysd.530336.9.0.pdf

This mean Maxwell can be jailed for contempt of court, should she continue to run and hide; that is: ignore court orders in this civil lawsuit.

With today's jailing of her by the DOJ, on what looks like the same facts as in the civil case, [though it may not be; even if the 1994 to 1997 time period is the same] --- Maxwell's concerns about the civil case now pale in comparison with the new, criminal case against her. That is, assuming DOJ gets conviction.

The judge's June 15 order deeming her served in the civil case, however, meant that Maxwell would have been facing jail if she failed to appear according to any court orders requiring her to.

So one question I don't know answer to is: why did she remain in the US? [Or did she actually flee, and we just ain't being told that? I D K]

Would no other country take her, did she attempt to leave and was rebuffed [by who?] or did she want to stay here and take her chances, knowing that she could run, assuming she tried to, that is; but could not hide forever?

We'll see if Maxwell-gate can trump BLM-gate, and all manner of other sorts of Hang Outs happening before our eyes.

Lastly, I'm not saying it's a weak case; but, why her and why now, since they obviously had no trouble locating her, assuming they did not always have tabs on Maxwell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CoCBw4Tdts

If anyone actually has an actual photo of her being taken out of her New Hampshire house, I'd like to see them. For Roger Stone, we don't have to ask this question. Perhaps Judge Amy Berman should handle this case and/or share it with Judge Gilbert and Sullivan.

Eric Newhill , 03 July 2020 at 12:04 AM

The FBI already has all kinds of evidence on a lot of people from their raids on Epstein residences. Now they just need Maxwell so they can squeeze her a little to tie up any loose ends. She will then die and the loose ends will be taken care of and the democrat/globalists will be safe from prosecution. FBI destroys some of the evidence they obtained and uses other evidence against their enemies (e.g. Trump associates, democrats gone off the reservation, like Dershowitz)

Barbara Ann , 03 July 2020 at 08:22 AM

All

It seems likely to me that she was Epstein's Mossad controller. Walrus is right. It will be difficult to keep her alive. Why she fled to NH escapes me so far.

Posted by: turcopolier | 03 July 2020 at 12:39 AM

Sir,

noone really sees into Israeli inner politics, but probably has to with the new grand coalition there.


Just my guessing.

Posted by: Balint Somkuti, PhD | 03 July 2020 at 04:21 AM

Count Three in the indictment interests me, as it is the only one mentioning third party defendants. If it wasn't for this I'd assume the whole thing was scoped so as to limit any fallout beyond Ghislaine herself.

"GHISLAINE MAXWELL, the defendant, Jeffrey Epstein, and others known and unknown , willfully and knowingly did combine, conspire, confederate, and agree together and with each other to commit an offense against the United States, to wit, transportation of minors, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 2423 (a)." (emphasis mine)

I'd like to hear Robert Willmann's view on the significance of this, combined with the pertinence of the fact that the SDNY's Public Corruption Unit is handling the case.

This, combined with the fact that she was arrested in the US, is (as of the time of writing) still alive and Barr's urgency in sacking Berman, gives me some hope that there is a real intention to go after someone else, perhaps higher up the food chain (Wexner?). Have Trump and Barr got a big surprise in store? I do hope so.

Yeah, Right , 03 July 2020 at 08:51 AM

I had read somewhere that she believed that Mossad had killed her father, so she may not have thought that Israel was a safer location.

Not sure. I don't think that she ever came out and openly accused Mossad of his death, but I do believe she is on record as claiming that her father was assassinated.

As for "why now", it may simply be that it has taken this long to track down and seize all the "insurance" documents that she had.

I certainly thought at the time that Epstein's days were numbered the moment the FBI raided his Manhattan mansion, in the sense that that the raid was undertaken to seize that all the videos and photos that he was relying on to keep himself safe.

Take those away from him = he is a goner. The same may be true of this woman.

turcopolier , 03 July 2020 at 11:58 AM

I do not know how reliable Ari Ben-Menashe is as a source, but, for what it is worth, he claims that Mossad was not the Israeli agency for which Epstein and the Maxwells worked.

From an article last month by Elizabeth Vos in 'Consortium News':

'In an interview with Consortium News, former Israeli intelligence officer Ari Ben-Menashe said Epstein did not work with Mossad. "Military intelligence was who he was working with," said Ben-Menashe. "Big difference," he said. "He never worked with Mossad, and Robert Maxwell never did, either. It was military intelligence."'

(See https://consortiumnews.com/2020/06/18/epstein-case-documentaries-wont-touch-tales-of-intel-ties/ .)

Be that as it may, it is not clear to me that Ghislaine Maxwell would have been any safer in Israel than in the U.S. If she is prudent, she will have followed the example of the former NKVD 'Resident' in Spain, Alexander Orlov. From his 'Wikipedia' entry:

'Meanwhile, the Great Purge continued as Stalin and his inner circle sought to exterminate all suspected enemies of the people. Orlov was alerted as close associates and friends were arrested, tortured and shot, one by one. In 1938, Orlov realised that he would soon be next. When he received orders from Moscow to report to a Soviet ship in Antwerp, Orlov was certain that he was about to be arrested. Instead of obeying, Orlov fled with his wife and daughter to Canada.

'Before leaving Paris, Orlov left two letters for the Soviet Ambassador, one for Stalin and one for NKVD chief Yezhov. He told them that he would reveal everything he knew about NKVD operations if any action was taken against him or his family. In a two-page attachment, Orlov listed the codenames of numerous illegals and moles operating in the West.'

(See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Orlov_(Soviet_defector) .)

He kept his side of the bargain, and 'The Secret History of Stalin's Crimes' was only published after its subject's death in March 1953.

Posted by: David Habakkuk | 03 July 2020 at 09:02 AM

David Habakkuk

I am reminded of Don Corleone's speech:

I'm a superstitious man, and if some unlucky accident should befall Michael - if he is to be shot in the head by a police officer, or be found hung dead in a jail cell... or if he should be struck by a bolt of lightning - then I'm going to blame some of the people in this room; and then I do not forgive. But with said, I pledge - on the souls of my grandchildren - that I will not be the one to break the peace that we have made today.
Epstein may well have died thanks to his being insufficiently suspicious. If Ghislaine Maxwell ever suffered from the same weakness, she must surely have been cured of it by now.

Posted by: Barbara Ann | 03 July 2020 at 09:38 AM

David Habakkuk

It could well have been Israeli IDF intelligence that she, Epstein and her father worked for. I knew these fellows well and the whole thing would have appealed to their sense of humor.

[Jul 03, 2020] Look how long Epstein lived in Federal custody. The clock is ticking.

Jul 03, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

J , 02 July 2020 at 05:40 PM

The real story is how long Epstein's Mossad partner Maxwell lives before the contract on her demise is fulfilled. Look how long Epstein lived in Federal custody. The clock is ticking.

[Jul 03, 2020] Hollywood, Disney, Goldman Sachs, Bitcoin, Epstein child trafficking networks exposed

Wexner is the key figure in Epsten-maxwell story
Notable quotes:
"... This is a thread about Marc Collins-Rector and the powerful child rape ring which extends from the BBS era to the cryptocurrency era with ties throughout entertainment and silicon valley, from Disney executives to crypto circles and social media. #opDeathEaters ..."
"... Both Epstein and his spotter were nothing more than consumables that thought they were were players. I'm not sure what the tabloid interest in this pair of clowns is all about. ..."
"... The Maxwell trial will be a carefully choreographed nothing burger ! The delay in bringing her to justice, was so as to plan and negotiate the details. To the satisfaction of all concerned. ..."
"... Letting the likes of prince Andrew and Clinton's and Trump off the hook regarding any incriminating evedence. So who is running the show (answer) Israel and their lobby groups. ..."
"... Ghislaine Maxwell and Les Wexner are the boss and Epstein was the CEO at their bidding. Wexner GAVE Epstein the Manhatten apartment. That is a five story large building and it was already fully fitted out with recording gear from the handover day. They don't come cheap. This was one of the biggest, deliberate global entrapment rackets the world has seen. Ghislaine was the handler and Wexner the financier and front man. ..."
"... Note how the operatives avoid my inquiry as to who owned the safe house and/or how Maxwell came to own it and who aided her in that endeavor? ..."
"... More on the Nutter Butter law firm that helped Maxwell purchase the New Hampshire safe house. It has strong ties to Harvard. Epstein was in deep with the Harvard folks and the Harvard folks, all Ivy League in fact, are in deep with the intelligence services. It's important in the clandestine services to keep changing your name. Chinese Princelings, fyi, prize a Harvard education. Gee, imagine that. ..."
Jul 03, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Richard Steven Hack , Jul 3 2020 6:51 utc | 102

Another example of what hackers *might* able to do... (PSA: I have *no* idea whether *any* of this information is correct - but wouldn't it be great if it was?)

Anonymous and OpDeathEaters begin massive expose of powerful child rape ring, big names set to be dropped
"Hollywood, Disney, Goldman Sachs, Bitcoin, Epstein child trafficking networks exposed," Anonymous tweeted

This is a thread about Marc Collins-Rector and the powerful child rape ring which extends from the BBS era to the cryptocurrency era with ties throughout entertainment and silicon valley, from Disney executives to crypto circles and social media. #opDeathEaters

Featuring: Bryan Singer, Gary Goddard, Jeffrey Sachs, Mitchell Blutt, David Neuman, David Geffen, Sandy Gallin, Terry Semel, Michael Huffington, Garth Ancier, Gary Gersh, John Silva, Marc Nathanson, Steve Bannon, Jeffrey Epstein, Al Seckel and more.

Peter AU1 , Jul 3 2020 7:19 utc | 110

Both Epstein and his spotter were nothing more than consumables that thought they were were players. I'm not sure what the tabloid interest in this pair of clowns is all about.

uncle tungsten , Jul 3 2020 8:46 utc | 118

Richard Steven Hack #115

The question now is: How do they stop Ghislaine from testifying? Having her "commit suicide" in her cell with all the cell block cameras off starts to look a little, I don't know, "blatant", wouldn't one think?

Well, blatant is not a concept that the oligarch class actually feel any problem with.

Mark2 , Jul 3 2020 9:23 utc | 122

Peter AU1 #110

The Maxwell trial will be a carefully choreographed nothing burger ! The delay in bringing her to justice, was so as to plan and negotiate the details. To the satisfaction of all concerned.

Letting the likes of prince Andrew and Clinton's and Trump off the hook regarding any incriminating evedence. So who is running the show (answer) Israel and their lobby groups.

Q. What's on the table ? Power, money and territory! As always. This is harvest time for Israel I'm afraid !

(Oh and) -- -- -- In my opinion.

uncle tungsten , Jul 3 2020 8:55 utc | 120
Both Epstein and his spotter were nothing more than consumables that thought they were were players. I'm not sure what the tabloid interest in this pair of clowns is all about.

Ghislaine Maxwell and Les Wexner are the boss and Epstein was the CEO at their bidding. Wexner GAVE Epstein the Manhatten apartment. That is a five story large building and it was already fully fitted out with recording gear from the handover day. They don't come cheap. This was one of the biggest, deliberate global entrapment rackets the world has seen. Ghislaine was the handler and Wexner the financier and front man.

But I am just an observer and if you want the gritty stuff then tune in to Whitney Webb and listen to her take on this. She has been revealing an immense amount of evidence and links since Epstein was first arrested 3? years ago. I am about to do that myself.

I don't give a flat rock what the MSM thinks or does in this case.

Mina , Jul 3 2020 9:37 utc | 123

The Maxwell trial for the show and the annexation in the background? With no cash allowed to flow to the axis of resistance (no banks, no planes, no Gulf expats enabled to bring in cash without the virus risk?).

The BBC article had an interesting snippet about Andrew, at the very end of the article: "Asked about the prince on Thursday, acting Attorney Strauss said: "I am not going to comment on anyone's status in this investigation but I will say that we would welcome Prince Andrew coming in to talk with us, we would like to have the benefit of his statement."

A source close to Prince Andrew's lawyers told BBC News: "The Duke's team is bewildered by the DoJ's [Department of Justice's] comments earlier today as we have twice reached out to them in the last month and have received no reply.""

450.org , Jul 3 2020 16:05 utc | 160

Note how the operatives avoid my inquiry as to who owned the safe house and/or how Maxwell came to own it and who aided her in that endeavor? Now why would they avoid that most important question and change the subject and surround the inquiry with distracting nonsense? I'll let the few honest ones amongst you answer that question. It's an easy answer, fyi. Hey Gruff, I see you.

Accused Jeffrey Epstein Sex Crimes Accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell Arrested At $1 Million New Hampshire Home

Authorities said Thursday that Maxwell was caught at a 156-acre property in that town, where land records list just one lot of that size, on East Washington Road.

"The defendant appears to have been hiding on a 156-acre property acquired in an all-cash purchase in December 2019 (through a carefully anonymized LLC) in Bradford, New Hampshire, an area to which she has no other known connections," said a court filing by Manhattan federal prosecutors. An LLC is a limited liability corporation.

Other records show the buyer was Granite Reality LLC, whose listed manager is a Boston lawyer named Jeffrey Roberts.

Roberts did not immediately respond to a request for comment. The web site of his firm, Nutter McClennen & Fish, says that Roberts "chairs Nutter's Private Client Department and serves as a member of the firm's Executive Committee."

"His broad-based practice consists of estate planning for high net worth individuals," among other areas, according to the web site. Nutter, whose spokeswoman did not immediately respond to a request for comment, is located at the same Boston address as the mailing address of the LLC that bought the property.

450.org , Jul 3 2020 16:11 utc | 161

More on the Nutter Butter law firm that helped Maxwell purchase the New Hampshire safe house. It has strong ties to Harvard. Epstein was in deep with the Harvard folks and the Harvard folks, all Ivy League in fact, are in deep with the intelligence services. It's important in the clandestine services to keep changing your name. Chinese Princelings, fyi, prize a Harvard education. Gee, imagine that.

Lawyers are the most evil beings to ever exist.

About Nutter McClennen & Fish LLP

Nutter has deep roots in the Boston community. In 1879, a young Louis D. Brandeis founded the firm with fellow Harvard alumnus Samuel D. Warren.

Although Brandeis would leave private practice for the judiciary -- he was appointed to the United States Supreme Court after 35 years at the firm -- Nutter has maintained its prestigious reputation through multiple name changes.

[Jul 02, 2020] Browder connections timeline

Jul 02, 2020 | www.unz.com

Pft , says: Show Comment July 3, 2020 at 12:02 am GMT

Browder connection timeline

Interesting history Browder has. I suspect he has a history with Putin before Putin became President , but its hard to find anything on a connection. Anyways lots of interesting connections, meaningful or not, I cant say.

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1985 - bugged version of PROMIS was sold for Soviet government use, with the media mogul Robert Maxwell as a conduit.

1990 - just after the fall of the Berlin Wall, Browder found himself on assignment in Poland for Boston Consulting Group. The government had begun privatizing state-owned companies and selling their shares at ridiculously low valuations.

1991 - Anatoly Sobchak, a former law professor of Putin's at Leningrad State, became mayor of Leningrad.* Sobchak hired Vladimir Putin, whom he had known when Putin worked at Leningrad State. Putin was still on active reserve with the KGB.

Putin's tenure in Sobchak's office was so rife with scandal that it led to a host of investigations into illegal assignment of licenses and contracts . Putin was head of the Committee for Foreign Liaison; collaborated with criminal gangs in regulating gambling; a money-laundering operation by the St. Petersburg Real Estate Holding Company, where Kumarin was involved and Putin served on the advisory board; Putin's role in providing a monopoly for the Petersburg Fuel Company, then controlled by the Tambov criminal organization; and much, much more -- virtually all of which was whitewashed. While he was in St. Petersburg in the nineties, Putin signed many hundreds of contracts doling out funds to his cronies.

1991 - November 5, Robert Maxwell, allegedly drowned after falling off his yacht in the Canary Islands near the northwest coast of Africa. Billions were missing from his pension funds

Maxwell's investment bankers included Salomon Brothers. Eventually, the pension funds were replenished with monies from investment banks Shearson Lehman and Goldman Sachs, as well as the British government.

It was March 1991 when William Browder went to work for British billionaire Robert Maxwell as his "investment manager". Just how deep into the investment decisions of Maxwell did Browder participate as an investment manager?

1991 November 10, Maxwell's funeral took place on the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem, the resting place for the nation's most revered heroes. Prime Minister Shamir eulogized: "He has done more Israel than can today be said."

1992 - Interestingly, after Maxwell died, Bill Browder went to work for the Salomon Brothers in the middle of their own scandal. Browder was put in charge of the Russian proprietary investments desk at Salomon Brothers. He was given 25 million to invest and used it by paying cash for vouchers in Russian companies the government had issued to citizens , and used them to buy shared at public auction. In a short period he turned that into 125 million

The scandal at Salomon Brothers was the manipulation of the US Treasury auctions back then.After that scandal where the government was threatening to shut down Salomon Brothers who was the biggest bond dealer in the USA for manipulating markets, all of a sudden, people from Goldman Sachs started taking posts in government.

1996-Browder left Salomon Brothers and with Edmond Safra founded Hermitage Capital Management for the purpose of investing initial seed capital of $25 million in Russia during the period of the mass privatization after the fall of the Soviet Union. Beny Steinmetz was another of the original investors in Hermitage, the Israeli diamond billionaire.

Cyprus is a favorite place for Russian to launder money. Thats probably why Browder and his accounting advisor Jamison Firestone chose it to launder Browder's Russian profits.

Browder from about 1997 to the mid-2000s used Cyprus shell companies to move money out of Russia to cheat the country of multi-millions of dollars in taxes. He used the Russian shells to invest in shares, including Gazprom shares that were illegal for foreigners to buy in Russia, then moved the shares to Cyprus shells

1996 article entitled, "The Money Plane," published by New York Magazine detailed how the "Russian mob gets a shipment of up to a billion dollars in fresh $100 bills," Edmond Safra's bank, Republic National, was directly implicated.

Guess we know where Browder got the cash money to pay for the vouchers

1998 - If Salomon had not been merged with Travelers Group in 1997 (which owned retail brokerage, Smith Barney), no doubt Salomon Brothers would have collapsed in the 1998 Long-Term Capital Management debacle created by one of their own – Salomons John Meriwether.

Safra lost $1 billion in Russia during the 1998 Long-Term Capital Management crisis over Russian bonds and investments which was why he put his bank, Republic National Bank, up for sale to HSBC in 1999.

1999 - Following the Russian financial crisis of 1998, despite significant outflows from the fund, Hermitage became a prominent shareholder in the Russian oil and gas. It was in 1999 when VSMPO-AVISMA Corporation (Russian: ВСМПО-АВИСМА) – the world's largest titanium producer - filed a RICO lawsuit against Browder and other Avisma investors including Kenneth Dart, alleging they illegally siphoned company assets into offshore accounts and then transferred the funds to U.S. accounts at Barclays.

Browder and his co-defendants settled with Avisma in 2000; they sold their Avisma shares as part of the confidential settlement agreement.

1999 - Republican National Bank was owned by Safra . On May 11, HSBC, announced a $10.3 billion deal to purchase Edmond Safra's holdings including the Republic National Bank of New York and Safra's shares in Bill Browder's firm, Hermitage Capital. The announcement came only nine months after Russia's economy collapsed and Browder's clients, lost over $900 million. It was also nine months after $4.8 billion in IMF funds was deposited in an undisclosed account at Safra's bank and well before the public became aware that that same money was dispersed and stolen through the Bank of New York, off-shore companies, and foreign financial institutions.

HSBC then became Browders partner of the Heritage Fund . Browder's shell companies were registered in Cyprus but owned by HSBC (Guernsey) as the trustee for his Hermitage Capital Management.

Cypriot shells Glendora and Kone were part of his offshore network "owned" by an HSBC Private Bank Guernsey Ltd trust. The real owner was Browder's Hermitage Fund. Assets (stocks and money) went from Russia to Cyprus and then to parts unknown.

Republic International Trust, registered by Mossack Fonseca of Panama Papers fame and listed on the Glendora document, was in the offshore network of Republic National Bank owner Edmond Safra, an early investor who then held 51% of Hermitage Fund shares.

1999 December 3 - Safra was killed in suspicious fire that broke out in his Monte Carlo home. Although some believe that Safra was killed by the Russian mafia, Lurie reported that a Swiss prosecutor investigating the missing IMF money believed that Safra was killed "because of his revelations to the FBI and the Swiss Prosecutor's Office investigating the disappearance and laundering of $4.8 billion of the IMF stablilization loan." One of the more interesting things to note here is that the prosecutor implied that Safra not only spoke with the FBI about the missing IMF funds but with Swiss authorities as well.

Funny how Browders bosses/partners get killed

1999 - the bombings that killed nearly three hundred innocent Russians were likely the product of a "false flag" operation that enabled Putin to consolidate power.

Putin promised to stop the plundering of the Russian state by rich oligarchs. But very few Russians knew that Putin had been a primary actor in the same kind of activity in St. Petersburg. And as for cleaning up corruption, one of Putin's first acts as president was to pardon Boris Yeltsin, thereby guaranteeing immunity from prosecution to the outgoing president.-

Putin recruited two oligarchs who were among his closest confidants, Roman Abramovich and Lev Leviev, to undertake the highly unlikely mission of creating a new religious organization called the Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia under the leadership of Rabbi Berel Lazar, a leader in the Hasidic movement called Chabad-Lubavitch.

Founded in the late eighteenth century, the tiny, Brooklyn-based Chabad-Lubavitcher movement is a fundamentalist Hasidic sect centered on the teaching of the late Rabbi Menachem Schneerson, who is sometimes referred to as a messiah -- moshiach -- a savior and liberator of the Jewish people. It is antiabortion, views homosexuality as a perversion, and often aligns itself politically with other fundamentalist groups on the right.

Its biggest donors included Leviev, an Israeli billionaire who was an Uzbek native and was known as the "King of Diamonds" thanks to his success in the diamond trade, and Charles Kushner, an American real estate developer who was later jailed for illegal campaign contributions, tax evasion, and witness tampering. Kushner is also the father of Jared Kushner, who married Donald Trump's daughter, Ivanka, and later became a senior adviser to President Trump. Leviev's friendship with Lazar dates back to 1992 and, according to Haaretz, made Leviev "the most influential, most active and most connected person in the Jewish community of Russia and made Lazar the country's chief rabbi."

Roman Abramovich, controlled the trading arm of one of Russia's largest oil companies through an Isle of Man company that had figured in the Bank of New York affair. Mr. Abramovich ran the Siberian oil giant Sibneft, which sold its oil through a company called Runicom.

His name emerged after speculation that Swiss investigators were looking into the role of Runicom as part of the widening investigation into the laundering of up to $15 billion of Russian money through American banks. Runicom is owned by at least two offshore companies set up by the Valmet Group, a financial services concern partly owned by Menatep, a failed Russian bank that used the Bank of New York."

2001- Salomon Brothers Building (WTC 7) collapses. Tenants include the Department of Defense, the Secret Service, the IRS, and the Securities and Exchange Commission

2005 - Steinmetz of Browders Heritage Fund teamed up with another diamond magnate, Putins buddy Lev Leviev, to purchase the top ten floors of Israel's Diamond Tower which also houses the Israeli Diamond Exchange. Haaretz.com reported that "the buyers intend to build a connector from the 10 floors – the top 10 floors of the building – to the diamond exchange itself in order to benefit from the security regime of the other offices within the exchange." And benefit they did.

According to one website reporting on a Channel 10 (Israel) news story, from 2005 – 2011, an "underground" bank was set up to provide "loans to firms using money taken from other companies while pretending it was legally buying and selling diamonds." The bank apparently washed over $100 million in illicit funds over the course of six years and both Steinmetz and Leviev were directly implicated as "customers" of the bank but Neither of them were charged in the case.

Then there's HSBC's involvement in the diamond industry and Leviev's ties not only to arms dealer Arcadi Gaydamak via Africa-Israeli Investments but Roman Abramovich and Kushner

2007 - Browders Hermitage Capital Management, was raided by Russian interior ministry officers, who confiscated stamps and documents. These were then used to file bogus tax returns to the Russian Treasury, which were paid out to bank accounts controlled by Klyuev and his associates, according to the U.S. government.

Browder claimed Organized crime carried out the tax refund fraud against the Russian Treasury under which criminals used collusive lawsuits to fake damages and get refunds of company taxes. The tax refund fraud using Browder's companies netted $230 million.

2008 - HSBC (Guersey) director Paul Wrench filed a complaint about the tax refund fraud in July on behalf of Hermitage (after Starova's complaints) .

Maginitsky was arrested for being the accountant (not a lawyer) of Browder's tax evasion schemes.

2008 - A lawsuit alleged Bayrock's projected profits were "to be laundered, untaxed through a sham Delaware entity" to the FL Group, Iceland's largest private investment fund, the first major firm to collapse in 2008 when Iceland's financial bubble burst, and a favored financial instrument for loans to Russia-connected oligarchs who were, court papers claim, in favor with Vladimir Putin. According to Bloomberg, Eva Joly, who assisted Iceland's special prosecutor in the investigation of the financial collapse, said, "There was a huge amount of money that came into these banks that wasn't entirely explained by central bank lending. Only Mafia-like groups fill a gap like that."

Another significant Bayrock partner, the Sapir Organization, had, through its principal, Tamir Sapir, a long business relationship with Semyon Kislin, the commodities trader who was tied to the Chernoy brothers and, according to the FBI, to Vyacheslav Ivankov's gang in Brighton Beach.

In addition to being wired into the Kremlin, Sapir's son-in-law, Rotem Rosen, was a supporter of Chabad along with Sater, Sapir, and others at Bayrock, and, as a result, was part of an extraordinarily powerful channel between Trump and Putin. After all, the ascent of Chabad in Russia had been part of Putin's plan to replace older Jewish institutions in Russia with corresponding organizations that were loyal to him.

The biggest contributor to Chabad in the world was Leviev, the billionaire "King of Diamonds" who had a direct line to Rabbi Berel Lazar, aka "Putin's rabbi," to Donald Trump, and to Putin himself dating back to the Russian leader's early days in St. Petersburg.

Indeed, one of the biggest contributors to Chabad of Port Washington, Long Island, was Bayrock founder Tevfik Arif, a Kazakh-born Turk with a Muslim name who was not Jewish, but nonetheless won entry into its Chai Circle as a top donor.

2013-The Hermitage Fund, an HSBC-backed vehicle that invested in Russia and became embroiled in a diplomatic war with the Kremlin over the death of one of its accountants, closes down..

2014, Vekselberg's Renova Group became a partner with Wilbur Ross in the takeover of the Bank of Cyprus, which had held billions in deposits from wealthy Russians.

Back in early 90's Trump found himself in financial trouble when his three casinos in Atlantic City were under foreclosure threat from lenders. He was bailed-out by senior managing director of N.M. Rothschild & Sons, Wilbur Ross, who Trump would later appoint as Secretary of Commerce. Ross, who is known as the "King of Bankruptcy," specializes in leveraged buyouts of distressed businesses.

Along with Blackstones Carl Icahn, Ross convinced bondholders to strike a deal with Trump that allowed Trump to keep control of the casinos.

By the mid-1990s, Ross was a prominent figure in New York Democratic Party politics and had caught the attention President Bill Clinton who appointed him to lead the U.S.-Russia Investment Fund.

2015 - Donald Trump, after emerging from a decade of litigation, multiple bankruptcies, and $ 4 billion in debt, had risen from the near-dead with the help of Bayrock and its alleged ties to Russian intelligence and the Russian Mafia. "They saved his bacon," said Kenneth McCallion, a former federal prosecutor

2015 - Kushner paid $295 million for some of the floors in the old New York Times building, purchased in 2015 from the US branch of Israeli-Russian oligarch Leviev's company, Africa Israel Investments (AFI), and partner, Five Mile Capital.

Kushner later borrowed $285 million from the German financial company Deutsche Bank, which has also been linked to Russian money laundering,

Jared and Ivanka were also close to another of Putins oligarchs, Roman Abramovich and his wife, Dasha Zhukova.

2015-While Wilbur Ross served as vice-chairman of the Bank of Cyprus, the bank's Russia-based businesses were sold to a Russian banker and consultant, Artem Avetisyan, who had ties to both the Russian president and Russia's largest bank, Sberbank. At the time, Sberbank was under US and EU sanctions following Russia's annexation of Crimea.

Avetisyan had earlier been selected by Putin to head a new business branch of the Russian president's strategic initiative agency, which was tasked with improving business and government ties.

Avetisyan's business partner, Oleg Gref, is the son of Herman Gref, Sberbank's chief executive officer, and their consultancy has served as a "partner" to Sberbank, according to their website. Ross had described the Russian businesses – including 120 bank branches in Russia – as being worth "hundreds of millions of euros" in 2014 but they were sold with other assets to Avetisyan for €7m (£6m).

Ross resigned from the Bank of Cyprus board after he was confirmed as commerce secretary in 2017

2018 - Cyprus suspended cooperation with Russia, which had been seeking assistance from the government in Moscow's alleged case of tax evasion against Hermitage Capital Founder Bill Browder.

[Jul 02, 2020] There is an interesting connection between Bill Bowder, Robert Maxwell, Bill Clinton, Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell and others. They are all members of "CLUB"

Jul 02, 2020 | www.unz.com

Alfred , says: Show Comment July 2, 2020 at 3:31 pm GMT

There is an interesting connection between Bill Bowder, Robert Maxwell, Bill Clinton, Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell and others. They are all members of "CLUB"

There are many more revealing articles on Martin Armstrong's blog. Browder is one of the biggest scumbags to ever walk on this earth. He is trying to start a war against Russia – because they took away some of the things he had stolen. An absolute arsehole.

Ghislaine Maxwell Arrested – Clinton's & Epstein's Lover | Armstrong Economics

Really No Shit , says: Show Comment July 2, 2020 at 3:55 pm GMT
Ben Cardin must feel like a schmuck given Ben Bidder's exposé in the Der Spiegel but having suborned the late drama queen Johnny McCain in supporting him in his efforts to protect a fellow tribesman, the noodge won't make any effort to rescind the illicit bill now that's the power of corruption!
Bombercommand , says: Show Comment July 2, 2020 at 4:54 pm GMT
@Saggy Many thanks for posting this. Halfway through the film I began to suspect that Browder had Magnitsky killed: "Dead Men Tell No Tales", and an accountant can tell very important tales for the procecution. I had no idea that several guys connected with Browder shell companies convienently turned up dead. Looks like the "cleanup" scenes in Scorcese's "Casino".
Craig Nelsen , says: Show Comment July 2, 2020 at 5:34 pm GMT
The Nekrasov film is absolutely devastating. Bowder comes off looking like the rat-faced vermin he is.
geokat62 , says: Show Comment July 2, 2020 at 9:32 pm GMT
Here's a link to all 6 parts of Browder's deposition in the Previzon case

https://www.youtube.com/embed/videoseries?list=PLNR-zS4HKxC3_GPQM39JKcsDWk7PiAbnh

[Jul 02, 2020] On Ghislaine Maxwell, I trust Les Wexner is not overlooked

Notable quotes:
"... Now trending on twitter: #Ghislanemaxwelldidntkillherself ..."
"... But where is Les Wexner, the chief, the founder of this racket. For that matter where are the Awan family spy and blackmail gang? ..."
Jul 02, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Jackrabbit , Jul 2 2020 21:10 utc | 46

Ghislaine Maxwell arrested

Whitney Webb's view

1/2 Having now read the SDNY indictment of Ghislaine Maxwell, one thing stands out. The charges are mainly for enticing minors to travel to engage in illegal sex acts specifically w Epstein and there is also a perjury charge ....

2/2 However, the indictment says Maxwell herself sexually abused the victims but WASN'T charged for that. In other words, they admit that she sexually assaulted minors but is only charged her for enticing minors to travel for abuse by Epstein, NOT her. Slap on the wrist incoming

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Now trending on twitter: #Ghislanemaxwelldidntkillherself

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uncle tungsten , Jul 2 2020 21:42 utc | 51

William Gruff #45

Well Ghislaine Maxwell could have hidden in Salisbury UK with all those spooks about. She has UK citizenship so maybe a prisoner exchange for Julian Assange is possible. Mind you the englanders do like their torture toys.

But where is Les Wexner, the chief, the founder of this racket. For that matter where are the Awan family spy and blackmail gang?

Mark2 , Jul 2 2020 23:55 utc | 65
Here's Maxwell with Trump.
So what has she got on trump. ?
https://mobile.twitter.com/the_resistor/status/1278834914540937217/photo/1
james , Jul 3 2020 0:11 utc | 66
how many intel agencies are behind this blackmailing duo?? can't be just one...

[Jul 02, 2020] Ghislaine Maxwell, Associate of Jeffrey Epstein, Is Arrested

Notable quotes:
"... Civil lawsuits have accused Ms. Maxwell of managing a network of recruiters that Mr. Epstein relied on to entice young and often financially strapped girls and women into his scheme, promising he would help them with their education and careers. ..."
Jul 02, 2020 | www.msn.com

Ghislaine Maxwell, Associate of Jeffrey Epstein, Is Arrested Nicole Hong, Benjamin Weiser and Mihir Zaveri 6 hrs ago


Ghislaine Maxwell , the former girlfriend and longtime associate of the disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein, was arrested Thursday in New Hampshire on criminal charges linked to his alleged sex-trafficking operation, according to a law enforcement official.

Ms. Maxwell was accused in an indictment of recruiting and grooming "multiple" girls, including one as young as 14, for Mr. Epstein, who sexually abused them. She also faces perjury charges.

The arrest came nearly a year after Mr. Epstein was charged in a federal indictment with sexually exploiting and abusing dozens of underage girls at his mansion in Manhattan, his estate in Palm Beach, Fla. and other locations between at least 2002 and 2005.

The indictment said he paid the girls to give him massages while they were nude or topless, in encounters that typically included sex acts.

Mr. Epstein hanged himself in August in his cell at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Lower Manhattan, where he was jailed pending trial on the federal sex-trafficking charges.

Ms. Maxwell, a longtime confidante and companion of Mr. Epstein's, had for years been accused of helping to procure and groom young girls for the financier, including instructing them on how to pleasure Mr. Epstein sexually.

The daughter of the British publishing magnate Robert Maxwell, Ms. Maxwell also helped manage Mr. Epstein's properties and introduced him to the high-profile celebrities and business executives who would form his social circle.

Civil lawsuits have accused Ms. Maxwell of managing a network of recruiters that Mr. Epstein relied on to entice young and often financially strapped girls and women into his scheme, promising he would help them with their education and careers.

"They were like partners in a business," Mr. Epstein's house manager, Janusz Banasiak, said in a deposition.

"She orchestrated the whole thing for Jeffrey," one of Mr. Epstein's accusers, Sarah Ransome, who sued him in 2017, told The New York Times in an interview.

The new federal indictment, unsealed on Thursday, charged Ms. Maxwell with six counts: enticing minors to travel to engage in illegal sex acts, transportation of a minor with intent to engage in sexual activity, two conspiracy counts related to those charges and two counts of perjury.

The indictment described three instances between 1994 and 1997 of Ms. Maxwell befriending girls, taking them shopping and to the movies. After establishing a rapport with them, Ms. Maxwell would "normalize sexual abuse" by undressing in front of the girls or talking about sexual topics, the indictment claimed.

Mr. Epstein would then abuse the girls in various residences and other locations in New York, New Mexico, Florida and London, according to the indictment.

Jeffrey Pagliuca, who has been a lawyer for Ms. Maxwell, did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

[Jul 01, 2020] SPECIAL REPORT- Jeffrey Epstein and his royal protector

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Prince Andrew's life has been torn asunder by the fallout of his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein – triggering a stalemate with the US Justice Department which threatens the reputation of the entire British royal family. This Sky News Australia special investigation probes their friendship and brings you that latest in the royal scandal which has gripped the world.

[Jul 01, 2020] Justice US style: Ghislaine Maxwell lives in a very luxury appartment in Paris,at a few minutes distance from both the 8.6 million dollars Epstein property and its neighbour the Israeli Embassy.

Jul 01, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

willie , Jun 28 2020 23:59 utc | 74

Haven't read the article in french that I link to now:

https://www.agoravox.fr/tribune-libre/article/ghislaine-maxwell-rabatteuse-de-225385

but I'm off to bed.

The title says: Ghislaine Maxwell lives in a very luxury appartment in Paris,at a few minutes distance from both the 8.6 million dollars Epstein property and its neighbour the Israeli Embassy.

International criminals usually live in Paris,where Interpol always looks on the wrong side,inspector Clouseau heads it.

[Jun 24, 2020] Virginia Giuffre's sealed depositions reveal that she was directed by Jeffrey Epstein to have sex with former Israeli PM Ehud Barak Victoria's Secret's Les Wexner.

Jun 24, 2020 | www.unz.com

geokat62 , says: Show Comment Next New Comment June 23, 2020 at 8:51 pm GMT

Breaking news

NEW: Alan Dershowitz's attorney confirms that his client has access to Virginia Giuffre's sealed depositions. Those depositions reveal that she was directed by Jeffrey Epstein to have sex with former Israeli PM Ehud Barak & Victoria's Secret's Les Wexner.

-- julie k. brown (@jkbjournalist) June 23, 2020

[Jun 19, 2020] Epstein Case Documentaries Won't Touch Tales Of Intel Ties

Jun 19, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Two new documentaries on the Jeffery Epstein affair delve into lurid details & give voice to his victims, but both scratch the surface of the political & intelligence dimensions of the scandal... Authored by Elizabeth Vos via ConsortiumNews.com,

Investigation Discovery premiered a three-hour special, "Who Killed Jeffrey Epstein?" on May 31, the first segment in a three-part series, that focused on Epstein's August 2019 death in federal custody. The series addresses Epstein's alleged co-conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell, his links with billionaire Leslie Wexner, founder of the Victoria Secrets clothing line, and others, as well as the non-prosecution deal he was given.

The special followed on the heels of Netflix's release of " Jeffrey Epstein: Filthy Rich ," a mini-series that draws on a book of the same name by James Patterson.

Promotional material for "Who Killed Jeffery Epstein?" promises that: " exclusive interviews and in-depth investigations reveal new clues about his seedy underworld, privileged life and controversial death. The three-hour special looks to answer the questions surrounding the death of this enigmatic figure." Netflix billed its series this way: "Stories from survivors fuel this docuseries examining how convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein used his wealth and power to carry out his abuses."

Neither documentary however deals at all with Epstein's suspected ties to the world of intelligence.

Absent from both are Maxwell's reported links to Israeli intelligence through her father, Robert Maxwell , former owner of The New York Daily News and The Mirror newspaper in London. Maxwell essentially received a state funeral in Israel and was buried on the Mount of Olives after he mysteriously fell off his yacht in 1991 in the Atlantic Ocean.

Ari Ben-Menashe. (From his memoir, "Profits of War")

In an interview with Consortium News , former Israeli intelligence officer Ari Ben-Menashe said Epstein did not work with Mossad. "Military intelligence was who he was working with," said Ben-Menashe. "Big difference," he said. "He never worked with Mossad, and Robert Maxwell never did, either. It was military intelligence."

Ben-Menashe claimed Robert Maxwell was Epstein's "tie over. Robert Maxwell was the conduit [in the Iran-Contra scandal]. The financial conduit."

In " Epstein: Dead Men Tell No Tales ," a book published in December, Ben-Menashe is quoted as saying he worked with Robert Maxwell who introduced his daughter and Epstein to Israeli intelligence, after which they engaged in a blackmail operation for Israel. "[Epstein] was taking photos of politicians f**king fourteen-year-old girls -- if you want to get it straight. They [Epstein and Maxwell] would just blackmail people, they would just blackmail people like that," he says in the book.

Ben-Menashe also claims that Robert Maxwell had attempted to blackmail Mossad. "He really lost his compass once he started playing these games with people," he told Consortium News.

Prince Andrew

Prince Andrew in a carriage procession, June 2012. (Carfax2, CC BY-SA 3.0, Wikimedia Commons)

About a week after both documentaries premiered, the U.S. Department of Justice approached the U.K.'s Home Office requesting that Prince Andrew answer questions in the U.K. over his links to Epstein, The Mirror reported. If he refuses, the paper said, U.S. prosecutors would ask that he be brought to a British court to respond to their questions. Andrew's lawyers say he three times agreed to be questioned by U.S. authorities, but it is not known if Andrew attached conditions, such as immunity.

Both documentaries mention Prince Andrew in the context of allegations about him from one of Epstein's victims, Virginia Roberts Giuffre. But neither film goes into much detail about Andrew's role in the Epstein operation, which Ben-Menashe said, was to lure powerful men into Epstein's orbit.

"One of the things that are really key to this is that he [Epstein] befriended a very useful idiot called Prince Andrew," Ben-Menashe told CN . "Now what really happened was that this Prince Andrew, with nothing to do, was having fun with this, and Prince Andrew brings in the fancy people, invites them to play golf with him, and then takes them out for fun. Then Epstein shows up, and these people are basically blackmailed."

"The only person that can talk, that probably knows quite a bit, is the great prince," Ben-Menashe said. "He was with him [Epstein] all the time. I really don't know what his future is going to be like, either."

Since a number of influential figures were named in a lawsuit filed by Giuffre against Ghislaine Maxwell the day before Epstein was found dead in his federal prison cell in New York, Ben-Menashe said: "I'm starting to think that lawsuit was his death sentence, because people didn't want to be named. That's my guess, it's just a guess. Obviously, somebody decided that he had to go."

Epstein's death was ruled a "suicide" by New York's chief medical examiner. A pathologist hired by Epstein's brother said it was homicide.

An Angry Call

Just before Ben-Menashe spoke to Consortium News on Monday, he said he had received an angry telephone call from Israel's Channel 13 television station.

"They called me, and they went wild: 'What, you believe Israel would use little girls? You are saying that? You are insulting the nation, you are making us anathema around the world.' I said, 'The truth is the truth.' And Jeffrey Epstein's story is something that nobody wanted to hear. He was working with the Israelis, he was working with Maxwell," Ben-Menashe said.

He added: "It's a very bad story, and I can see why the Israelis are so concerned about it. I believe [Channel 13] were expressing anger, and I believe this was a message. I don't like messages like that it has to do with the timing and these stories coming out about Epstein. They [Israel] are starting to become anathema to the world, this adds to it -- the Epstein story."

Victims' Voices

The Netflix and Investigation Discovery productions allow survivors to recount their experiences in interviews as well as taped police recordings and focus on the sweetheart plea deal provided to Epstein by former Trump Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta during Acosta's tenure as U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Florida.

Each series outlines Epstein's relationships with Wexner, Maxwell, and a variety of elite figures. Investigation Discovery focuses on the controversy surrounding Epstein's death while Netflix's "Filthy Rich" examines the second attempt to prosecute Epstein in the context of the Me Too movement.

The Netflix series describes the initial investigation of Epstein as it shifted from the state to the federal level, and airs allegations that Florida journalists covering the story were threatened. Netflix also interviews psychologist Dr. Kathryn Stamoulis, a specialist in adolescent sexuality, who gives a description of Epstein's targeting and grooming of young girls. Epstein survivor Giuffre later describes in the film being groomed to tolerate exploitation and sex trafficking as part of a "deranged family."

The final section of the fourth episode in Netflix's miniseries includes a survivor stating that this was not simply an Epstein operation, but an "international sex trafficking ring that reached all over the world." Epstein is described as a "very small piece in a huge network." But the documentary goes no further than that.

As in the Belgian Dutroux case , victims alleged that multiple abusers acted in concert with each other, using blackmail to keep each other in line. In both instances, authorities and the media portrayed the abuse as chiefly the product of an aberrant lone predator.

"This wouldn't be the only time this happened, but this guy got way over his head," Ben-Menashe told Consortium News . "He probably was blackmailing too many people, too many powerful people. And then, this is a story the Israelis wouldn't want to come out, anyway."

Thriving in Murky Waters

Another angle the documentaries did not approach was the environment in which Epstein thrived like an algae bloom in stagnant water, that is, within a long history of child trafficking rings linked with intelligence agencies , often with the aim of gathering blackmail material. It was within this reality that Epstein appeared to be rendered untouchable.

Omitting the intelligence aspect of Epstein's history allows the Establishment media to portray his case as a mysterious and unsolvable aberration, rather than perhaps a continuation of business-as-usual amongst those in power.

The glaring refusal to address Epstein's intelligence involvement becomes clear when Investigation Discovery and Netflix's programs discuss the role of Acosta in securing Epstein's "sweetheart" plea deal, but do not reference Acosta's widely reported explanation as to why Acosta agreed to the deal. As reported by The Daily Beast , Acosta claimed that he cut the non-prosecution deal because he had been told that "Epstein 'belonged to intelligence' and to leave it alone."

Independent journalist Whitney Webb has reported on Epstein's many ties with intelligence , telling CNLive! in August last year that there is evidence this included with the CIA.

Webb spoke about Iran-Contra links to Epstein via his and billionaire Wexner's efforts to relocate Southern Air Transport (formerly the CIA's Air America) from Florida to Ohio: "What's significant here is that out of all the airlines in the United States, Wexner and Epstein choose the airline, the only airline that is outed, publicly known at the time, to be a CIA cut-out. Out of all the airlines that exist, that's the one they go for," she said.

Webb also cited reporting by Nigel Rosser, a British journalist, who wrote in the Evening Standard in 2001 that Epstein claimed he worked for the CIA in the 1990s.

Lip Service

Investigation Discovery and Netflix give lip service to Wexner's ties with Epstein, omitting that Wexner gave Epstein the largest private residence in New York City -- essentially for free . Investigation Discovery does not mention that the residence was extensively wired with surveillance equipment, per Webb and The New York Times .

"James Patterson, before writing his book on Epstein, 'Filthy Rich,' on which this documentary [by Netflix] is based, wrote a novel ['The President is Missing'] with Bill Clinton , who is of course quite close to the Epstein scandal, so that definitely, in my opinion, raises some eyebrows," Webb told Consortium News.

"I think that one of the goals of this [Netflix] documentary is to basically imply that Epstein was the head of the operation and that now that he is dead, all of that activity has ceased," Webb said. "If they had actually bothered to explore the intelligence angle, in some of the more obvious facts about the case, like Leslie Wexner's role, for example, it becomes clear that Epstein was really just more of a manager of this type of operation, [and] that these activities continue."

Webb said a main reason for avoiding discussion of the intelligence angle is that mention of state sponsorship would lead to calls for accountability and open inquiry into a history of sexual blackmail by intelligence agencies. "So if they had given even superficial treatment of those ties, it would have exposed threads that if anyone had bothered to pull on a little bit, would start to unravel a lot of things that obviously these powerful people and institutions don't want exposed," Webb said.

More than nine months since Epstein's death, no alleged Epstein co-conspirator has been arrested or charged with a crime despite reports of an active criminal investigation of Maxwell (who has disappeared), and multiple failed attempts of alleged Epstein victims to serve her with civil suits.

"The criminal case against him, and all the evidence that was gathered against him as part of that, will never be made public unless someone else is charged," said Webb. "So, the fact that they're not charging anyone else is quite telling, and the fact that the mainstream media isn't pushing back against that, I think is telling as well."

The omissions of major aspects of the Epstein case by the media, specifically its links with the intelligence community, seems to be yet another example of a buffer between justice and those responsible for rendering Epstein untouchable.

[Jun 16, 2020] Saagar Enjeti- FBI ZEROES IN on Prince Andrew in Epstein investigation

Jun 16, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Saagar Enjeti discusses the FBI's decision to formally request Prince Andrew's cooperation in the sexual abuse investigation into Jeffrey Epstein.


Dutch , 6 days ago

"The Clintons would like to extend their sympathy to the royal family for the upcoming suicide of Prince Andrew."

spaceracer23 , 1 week ago

Why is the FBI focusing on foriegn nationals instead of the numerous AMERICAN politicians involved with Epstein? It's like the FBI has a long history of not having any interest in holding the Clintons accountable....

Kira Barsmith , 6 days ago

That photo is worth more than a thousand words, absolutely priceless.

Andy DSouza , 6 days ago

Why have we still not found Ghislain Maxwell.Who stands to inherit Epsteins assets?

Peter Sepall , 1 week ago

I will believe the FBI when they stop talking the talk and start walking the walk.

Mark Taylor , 6 days ago

All of the worldwide 1% "elite" are riddled with corruption. What pukes...


Lying Dutchman
, 6 days ago

Come on, Saagar, we know why he got off: he was a CIA operative. Alex Acosta said he "belonged to Intelligence."

Mila Lewis , 6 days ago (edited)

Shouldn't the FBI be hounding their own American "elites" as well? Why the studious silence by the US alphabet soup agencies on Maxwell and her whereabouts? Why have the Clintons and Dershowitz and even Trump been handled with kid gloves in this case? Or what about Bill Gates? By all means, put pressure on Prince Andrew, but it's the lack of consistency in the manner in which US authorities have been handling this from the get go that piques my ire. It's as if Andrew is being used as a sacrificial scapegoat to deflect attention away from America's own very, very, long list of Epstein and Maxwell's "clients"... many of them serious power-players with incredible influence. How typical of the monumental hypocrisy and double standards which have become the "stock in trade" of the US empire.

Jisti Koff , 6 days ago

How about Bill Gates, the world's healer? Another buddy of Epstein.

Luce Ra , 1 week ago

There are no conspiracy theories around Epstein's case, just obvious facts. A group of the richest people share same sexual appetite for kids. And justice department will not do anything about it.

josh benedict , 3 days ago

The Hill is just exposing the tip of the iceberg. Look more into the Clintons, Winfrey, and Gates if you're serious.

galactica80 , 3 days ago

Why have I known about Clinton for so long? I can't even remember when I first heard that Clinton was on the island and the Lolita express? I thought it was public knowledge.


dobrodave123
, 2 days ago

"Einstein didn't kill himself" : AOC.

ThatRegnar , 1 week ago

When are we going to question Bill Clinton over his association with Epstein?

[Jun 14, 2020] Extracts from Kunstler's "Nemesis Rising!" concerning pedophile Jeffrey Epstein

Jun 14, 2020 | www.serendipity.li

And now there is the Epstein matter, which threatens not only former president Bill Clinton, but a cosmos of political, financial, and entertainment "stars" in countless ugly incidents that involve a kind of personal corruption that has no political context but says an awful lot about the obliteration of moral and ethical boundaries by the people who ended up running things in this fretful moment of US history.

[Jun 10, 2020] Eventually even the emperors were idiots. Some of them think they can compartmentalize competencies, so you see these absolutely castrated and chemically autistic nerds working the buttons in technical academia

Jun 10, 2020 | www.unz.com

anon8383892 , says: Show Comment June 10, 2020 at 5:53 pm GMT

@Alfa158 It won't work though. There isn't a significant generation of 'hyper-competent' people amidst a suppressed populace. Instead you get idiocracy, where even the elites show signs of mental impairment, increasingly as time goes by. The Romans were rendered idiotic by arbitrary and ruthless imperial autocracy, which scythed through families and ancient clans, leaving only careerist slaves in its wake.

Eventually even the emperors were idiots. Some of them think they can compartmentalize competencies, so you see these absolutely castrated and chemically autistic nerds working the buttons in technical academia. You can produce bureaucrats of technocracy this way, but nothing much new will come of it.

Elon Musk is not the most competent. He is the scion of a diamond magnate family if I'm not mistaken. He is a silly man, nothing against him, but most of us don't admire him all.

We feel sorry for people that have this kind of cultish infatuation with the man, his golf-carts, and space-rockets. He is complete with our own Marie Antoinette, Grimes, each an absolute clown, clown royals for a clown society. Idiocracy.

Hilarious to see Alex Jones pimping him as like a new Howard Hughes. Most of the alt press is fizzled, co-opted or neutralized in some way. Infatuation with big, great people, heroes from the heavens of the stars, is a pathology, whether it's directed at Trump or Bernie or whoever.

People need to cultivate the hero within, and generate the ground level sovereignty that could restore (from the earth and man up) a free republic. There are a lot of authority figures from the deathstar on Youtube telling us how they are patriots and are fighting back. May be. Could also be the enemy fucking with us. Really no way to know, which again, is a motivating factor for de-centralization and vesting sovereignty into free men, free communities, and up. The federal entity is necessary, but cannot hover self-sufficiently over a devastated (by corporate dictat -- for human resource extraction) populace. If the states withdraw their channeled sovereignty from the federal entity, it should collapse. Otherwise it is a foreign entity. To the extent we are ruled by a tiny cabal of vampires, we lose justification for the belief that our rulers are ours at all. Such an arrangement of power presents an attractive target (minimal points of failure) for a strategic adversarial compromise.

One reason I don't want people being anti-antifa, is I understand most of those people just want local self-governance. Food-not-bombs people mostly just want to have a nice little community garden and not be turned into slaves by the system. These are the 'anarchists'. I've met them, mostly they are not so bad. It's a lot of divide-and-conquer going on.

Apologies for the stream-of-consciousness; I've posted some of this before, just pounding on the nail.

[Jun 08, 2020] Filthy Rich

Jun 08, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

migueljose , Jun 8 2020 3:27 utc | 55

I watched all of the Netflix series on Epstein-- "Filthy Rich" last night. I'd be interested in others' perspectives.

It focused on the victims' stories, did a good job on revealing how young, poor girls who are psychologically scarred through family breakdowns, predatory adults and neglect are then easily exploited during their teen years by sociopaths.Very revealing.

However, there was not one mention of Israel. Whitney Webb's work including her recent interviews with Maria Farmer are essential:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADRRgaPwWeo

Watch them both-- the Netflix series and Whitney Webb's.

[May 20, 2020] The sex pistols in I believe 1972, were banned from the BBC supposedly for saying something about the queen, but in reality it was because they kept insisting that Jimmy saville was a pedophile

May 20, 2020 | www.unz.com

Anon [344] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment May 7, 2020 at 1:04 am GMT

@botazefa Well one of the problems with that would be, David icke said for decades that Jimmy saville was a pedophile, the BBC said he was crazy , bit when Jimmy died in 2011, we found out he had hundreds if not thousands of victims, and people turned a blind eye for years just like rotherdam. He preyed on the extremely young, kids in hospitals, the mentally challenged, and even their corpses.
He was similar to dick Clark, except much more powerful, was knighted, had Christmas with the queen every year, was friends with the Beatles, and very Rich , despite no real large known sources of income ( procuring children for elites)

The sex pistols in I believe 1972, were banned from the BBC supposedly for saying something about the queen, but in reality it was because they kept insisting that Jimmy saville was a pedophile.( Think about that notorious punk band standing up for kids, much more forcefully than the British government has in recent memory.)

One of the director generals of the BBC , that had news stories about savile quashed repeatedly( ala Epstein) mark Thompson , is the current head/ CEO of the new York times. David icke was one of the few and the proud who said for years and years Savile was a pedo, that had state protection. Does that mean I think we are controlled by shape shifting lizard elites? Certainly not.
But just because somebody is wrong on one issue, does not automatically disqualify them on every issue, a broke clock is right twice a day after all, but moreover a persons willingness and ability to endure ridicule to say what they believe is commendable and a signal they refuse to compromise. David icke and the sex pistols tried to protect kids, the BBC played the fiddle while Rome burned. Also I consider it possible Icke said the lizard stuff to render himself s laughing stock, so they didn't feel it necessary to kill him. Check out his book , everything you need to know, and try and tell me with a straight face , the man is not brilliant.

NTM is you are at all aware of Bayesian ( the absolute best way to make predictions, says anyone with a working brain)reasoning you realize that one single data point can serve to discredit someone's other opinions, very significantly, but never all the way to zero.

Be well,remember to keep an open mind, and have a great day.

[Apr 30, 2020] https://www.zerohedge.com/health/five-eyes-western-intelligence-investigating-wuhan-researcher-highlighted-zero-hedge-january

Apr 30, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

xxx 2 days ago (Edited)

Whitney Webb interview to be broadcast in 15 minutes.

If you want to understand the police state roll out of today, you have to understand the CIA's Phoenix program. Watch our discussion here:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TVAI9VXSxII

xxx 2 days ago

She's a really sharp researcher/investigative journalist. Not many of those left and she is fearless.

Ms No, 2 days ago

Whitney Webb just reminded everybody of this. So many coincidences with these people.

https://www.seattlepi.com/seattlenews/amp/Gates-estate-staff-member-sentenced-for-child-6344956.php?__twitter_impression=true

"(FYI, the guy in the second link was funded by Epstein and advises a gene-editing start-up funded by Gates)"

https://futurism.com/geneticist-says-his-dna-dating-app-isnt-really-eugenics/amp?__twitter_impression=true

https://futurism.com/dating-app-match-users-dna

"Bill Gates claiming that he didn't meet with Epstein until 2013 is complete crap. A 2001 newspaper article on Epstein said that Epstein made millions from his business links with Gates in the 1990s."

https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2019/9/10/20858936/bill-gates-jeffrey-epstein-meetings-interview?__twitter_impression=true

[Apr 15, 2020] Mossad False Flag Attacks on Jews by Philip Giraldi

Notable quotes:
"... The Plot to Destroy America ..."
"... The recent tale of Israeli-American Michael Kadar, who has been credited with many of early 2017's nearly two thousand bomb scares targeting Jewish community centers and synagogues worldwide, is illustrative. ..."
"... The court in Tel Aviv convicted Kadar on counts including "extortion, disseminating hoaxes in order to spread panic, money laundering and computer hacking over bomb and shooting threats against community centers, schools, shopping malls, police stations, airlines, and airports in North America, Britain, Australia, New Zealand, Norway and Denmark." It claimed that "As a result of 142 telephone calls to airports and airlines, in which he said bombs had been planted in passenger planes or they would come under attack, aircraft were forced to make emergency landings and fighter planes were scrambled." ..."
"... Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation (Federal ID Number #52-1739023) that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is ..."
Apr 15, 2020 | www.unz.com

Even though distracted by the havoc resulting from the coronavirus, the United States and much of Europe is engaged in a frenzied search for anti-Semitism and anti-Semites so that what the media and chattering class are regarding as the greatest of all crimes and criminals can finally be extirpated completely. To be sure, there have recently been some horrific instances of ethnically or religiously motivated attacks on synagogues and individual Jews, but, as is often the case, however, quite a lot of the story is either pure spin or politically motivated. A Jewish student walking on a college campus who walks by protesters objecting to Israel's behavior can claim to feel threatened and the incident is recorded as anti-Semitism, for example, and slurs written on the sides of buildings or grave stones, not necessarily the work of Jew-haters, are similarly categorized. In one case in Israel in 2017, the two street swastika artists were Jews.

Weaponizing one point of view inevitably limits the ability of contrary views to be heard. The downside is, of course, that the frenzy that has resulted in the criminalization of free expression relating in any but a positive way to the activity of Jewish groups. It has also included the acceptance of the dishonest definition that any criticism of Israel is ipso facto anti-Semitism, giving that nation a carte blanche in terms of its brutal treatment of its neighbors and even of its non-Jewish citizens.

Jewish dominated Hollywood and the entertainment media have helped to create the anti-Semitism frenzy and continue to give the public regular doses of the holocaust story. Currently there are a number of television shows that depict in one form or another the persecution of Jews. Hunters on Amazon is about Jewish Americans tracking and killing suspected former Nazis living in New York City in the 1970s. The Plot to Destroy America on HBO is a retro history tale about how a Charles Lindbergh/Henry Ford regime installs a fascist government in the 1930s. One critic describes the televisual revenge feast "as one paranoid Jewish fantasy after another advocating murder as the solution to what they perceive as the problem of anti-Semitism."

But, as always, nothing is quite so simple as such a black and white portrayal where there are evil Nazis and Jewish victims who are always justified when they seek revenge. First of all, as has been demonstrated , many recent so-called anti-Semitic attacks on Jews involve easily recognizable Hasidic Jews and are actually based on community tensions as established neighborhoods are experiencing dramatic changes with the newcomers using pressure tactics to force out existing residents. And after the Hasidim take over a town or neighborhood, they defund local schools to support their own private academies and frequently engage in large scale welfare and other social services fraud to permit them to spend all their days studying the Talmud, which, inter alia teaches that gentiles are no better than beasts fit only to serve Jews.

The recent concentration of coronavirus in Orthodox neighborhoods in New York as well as the eruption of measles cases last year have been attributed to the unwillingness of some conservative Jews to submit to vaccinations and normal hygienic practices. They also have persisted in illegal large gatherings at weddings and religious ceremonies, spreading the coronavirus within their own communities and also to outsiders with whom they have contact.

Regularly exposing anti-Semitism is regarded as a good thing by many Jewish groups because the state of perpetual victimization that it supports enables them to obtain special benefits that might otherwise be considered excessive in a pluralistic democracy. Holocaust education in schools is now mandatory in many jurisdictions and more than 90% of discretionary Department of Homeland Security funding goes to Jewish organizations. Jewish organizations are now lining up to get what they choose to believe is their share of Coronavirus emergency funding.

Claims of increasing anti-Semitism, and the citation of the so-called holocaust, are like having a perpetual money machine that regularly disgorges reparations from the Europeans as well as billions of dollars per year from the U.S. Treasury. Holocaust and anti-Semitism manufactured guilt are undoubtedly contributing factors to the subservient relationship that the United States enjoys with the state of Israel, most recently manifested in the U.S. Department of Defense's gift of one million surgical masks to the Israel Defense Force in spite of there being a shortage of the masks in the United States (note how the story was edited after it first appeared by the Jerusalem Post to conceal the U.S. role but it still has the original email address and the photo cites the Department of Defense).

And then there is the issue of Jewish power, which is discussed regularly by Jews themselves but is verboten to gentiles. Jews wield hugely disproportionate power in all the Anglophone states as well as in France and parts of Eastern Europe and even in Latin America. If anti-Semitism is as rampant as has often been claimed it is odd that there are so many Jews prominent in politics and the professions, most especially financial services and the media. Either anti-Semitism is not really "surging" or the actual anti-Semities have proven to be particularly incompetent in making their case.

Further muddying the waters, there have been a number of instances in which Jews have themselves been responsible for what have been claimed to be anti-Semitic incidents. There has also been credible speculation that some of the incidents have been false flags staged by the Israeli government itself, presumably acting through its intelligence services. The objective would be to create sympathy among the public in Europe and the U.S. for Israel and to encourage diaspora emigration to the Jewish state. The recent tale of Israeli-American Michael Kadar, who has been credited with many of early 2017's nearly two thousand bomb scares targeting Jewish community centers and synagogues worldwide, is illustrative.

Kadar, who holds both Israeli and American nationality, was arrested in Ashkelon Israel on March 2017 by Israeli police in response to the investigation carried out by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Kadar's American address was in New Lenox Illinois but he actually resided in Israel. Kadar's defense was that he had a brain tumor that caused autism and was not responsible for his actions, but he was found to be fit for trial and was sentenced to 10 years in prison in June 2017. He was apparently subsequently quietly released from prison and returned to Illinois in mid-2018. In August 2019 he was arrested for violation of parole on a firearms and drugs offense.

The court in Tel Aviv convicted Kadar on counts including "extortion, disseminating hoaxes in order to spread panic, money laundering and computer hacking over bomb and shooting threats against community centers, schools, shopping malls, police stations, airlines, and airports in North America, Britain, Australia, New Zealand, Norway and Denmark." It claimed that "As a result of 142 telephone calls to airports and airlines, in which he said bombs had been planted in passenger planes or they would come under attack, aircraft were forced to make emergency landings and fighter planes were scrambled."

It was also claimed by the court that Kadar had gotten involved with the so-called restricted access "dark web" to make threats for money. He reportedly earned $240,000 equivalent worth of the digital currency Bitcoin. Kadar has reportedly refused to reveal the password to his Bitcoin wallet and its value is believed to have increased to more than $1 million.

The tale borders on the bizarre and right from the beginning there were many inconsistencies in both the Department of Justice case and in terms of Kadar's biography and vital statistics. After his arrest and conviction, many of his public, private and social networking records were either deleted or changed, suggesting that a high-level cover-up was underway.

Most significant, the criminal complaint against Kadar included details of the phone calls that were not at all consistent with the case that he had acted alone. The threats were made using what is referred to as spoofing telephone services, used by marketers to hide the caller's true number and identify, but the three cell phone numbers identified by the Department of Justice to make the spoofed calls were all U.S.-based and one of them was linked to a Jewish Chabad religious leader and one to the Church of Scientology's counter-intelligence chief in California. In addition, some of the calls were made when Kadar was in transit between Illinois and Israel, suggesting that he had not initiated the calls.

DOJ's criminal complaint also included information that the threat caller was a woman who had "a distinct speech impediment." Michael Kadar's mother has a distinct speech impediment. Oddly enough she has not been identified in any public documents and the Israelis claimed that Michael was disguising his voice, but she is believed to be Dr. Tamar Kadar, who resided in Ashkelon at the same address as Michael. Dr. Kadar is a chemical weapons researcher at the Mossad-linked Israel Institute for Biological Research ("IIBR").

Michael appears to have U.S. birthright citizenship because he was born in Bethesda in 1990 while his mother was a visiting researcher at the U.S. Army Military Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID). While Dr. Kadar was at USAMRIID, anthrax went missing from the Army's lab and may have been subsequently used in the 2001 anthrax letter attacks inside the U.S., which resulted in the deaths of five people. The FBI subsequently accused two USAMRIID researchers of the theft, but one was exonerated and the other committed suicide, closing the investigation.

So, there are some interesting issues raised by the Michael Kadar case. First of all, he appears to have been the fall guy for what may have been a Mossad directed false-flag operation actually run by his mother, who is herself an expert on biological weapons and works at an Israeli intelligence lab. Second, the objective of the operation may have been to create an impression that anti-Semitism is dramatically increasing, which ipso facto generates a positive perception of Israel and encourages foreign Jews to emigrate to the Jewish state. And third, there appears to have been a cover-up orchestrated by the Israeli and U.S. governments, evident in the disappearance of both official and non-official records, while Michael has been quietly released from prison and is enjoying his payoff of one million dollars in bitcoins. As always, whenever something involves promoting the interests of the state of Israel, the deeper one digs the more sordid the tale becomes.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation (Federal ID Number #52-1739023) that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected] .


niteranger , says: Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 5:17 am GMT

Good piece of work Dr. Giraldi. A few things about this case of the Kadars. Basically Israel refused to cooperate with the FBI at the beginning and resisted giving up the kid. Furthermore, the FBI was told to "back off" by higher ups in the agency and let Israel handle it. So the results are what you would expect with a false flag.

The anthrax case still has legs. Bruce Irvins was the microbiologist at Detrick you are referring to. He was never charged and they never proved he was involved and the FBI could not place him in any of the spots they wanted. He had some issues and the FBI gang banged him looking for a patsy. Dr. Hatfill was the "original" Person of Interest whom the Jewish controlled media followed around and they ruined his life. He sued the FBI and won a lot of money.

The FBI appeared to intentionally mess up the anthrax samples. Reviews by the National Academy of Science rocked the idiots at the FBI and they concluded Irvins was not involved. The real kicker to all of this is that the FBI leader of the investigation was Robert Mueller! The same Mueller who spent almost 3 years chasing Russian spies well knowing that it was lie.

And finally who sealed the files so no one could ever come up with the real perpetrators ..Obama!

Antares , says: Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 8:45 am GMT
Antisemitism is pro-Israel, the Nazis included (shipping jews to Palestine).

For some reason I know exactly what a neonazi looks like, how he behaves, how he talks, how he thinks and even how he feels. But I never met one. Where does this 'knowledge' come from?

I happen to remember some television that I have seen as a child. Most people don't and are living in a fantasy world with fantasy enemies and fantasy friends and take it for reality.

Been_there_done_that , says: Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 9:49 am GMT

"Further muddying the waters, there have been a number of instances in which Jews have themselves been responsible for what have been claimed to be anti-Semitic incidents."

There have been so many such incidents over the years that when a synagogue or cemetery gets spray-painted with swastikas, the default presumption for any subsequent investigation is automatically "inside-job".

The stereotypical perpetrator would tend to be a deranged student residing at the campus Hillel House, majoring in film studies or some other flakey college program.

Years ago there was a case of a San Francisco synagogue on fire. After the arsonist, a Jew, was caught and confessed, the tenor of the response was that one had to feel sorry for him because he needed help.

In light of such incidents there has even been a visual meme out there: Hey Rabbi Watcha Doin'?! (See Google Images)

Getting a patsy to do the dirty work is significantly more effective in provoking outrage and sympathy. Though last year's attack on a synagogue in Halle, Germany, during Yom Kippur services in early October was highly suspicious, media reports managed to suppress those aspects and instead generated a victimhood-card bonanza that lasted for weeks.

The German population was easily bamboozled. Prominent Jewish representatives publicly demanded more stringent laws against "anti-semitism", as recently re-defined, and parliamentarians duly obliged.

News that had not been much reported about, but was circulating at the outset in alternative media:

• Mentally deranged perpetrator, who had shared his views on an Internet chat group, expressed his desire to attack Muslims and Antifa.

• Anonymous "handler / minder" in California offered to pay him half a bitcoin to redirect his attack toward the synagogue instead.

• Synagogue had just recently been equipped with elaborate security system installed by Israeli company to withstand shooting and bombing attacks.

• Local police, which normally would provide security outside, during holiday services, were conspicuously absent during that time, and slow to respond (likely stand-down orders from above).

• Perpetrator filmed his rampage, which he broadcast in real-time as a live stream video online (wanting to emulate an earlier attack in New Zealand), enabling his handlers to monitor the shooting spree while in progress.

• After his mission failed, frustrated perpetrator "spilled the beans" in real-time and cussed out the Californian bitcoin payer, who had apparently set him up to be framed, as probably being a Jew.

Of course, by design, the securely locked synagogue door easily withstood the shooting attack with multiple exterior bullet holes into its wooden exterior. Everybody in the world probably saw that part.

Robert Pinkerton , says: Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 11:05 am GMT
Pressure of an external enemy reinforces group cohesion.

In Roman antiquity the Main Enemy was Carthage. Once it was destroyed, fissures in Roman social cohesion became canyons.

niente , says: Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 12:57 pm GMT
I was born in Argentina, 1950. There was a populist nationalist government then, strongly disliked by the US. It included a whole spectrum, right to left. It assisted together with the Vatican the rescuing of Nazi criminals that settled in the country. There was an antisemitic movement headed by a provocateur, Juan Guillermo Kelly for name. Jews emigrated to Israel. In the 80s he made public he was a Mossad agent
Desert Fox , says: Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 1:13 pm GMT
... get the book By Way of Deception by former Mossad officer Victor Ostrosky, it can be had on amazon.
Jake , says: Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 1:35 pm GMT
@vot tak How can Jews be a 'colonial occupation force' in any nation that is English-speaking and has not totally rejected the political and cultural heritage of WASP Empire?

Anglo-Saxon Puritanism was a Judaizing heresy. When the Anglo-Saxon Puritans won their revolution, they cemented Modern English culture as one twined with Jewish ideas and ideals. Archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell cemented that doubly by allying with Jewish bankers on the Continent. From the mid-1600s, Jews have been the defining bankers of English Empire, of WASP Empire. And bankers are always the opposite of outsiders. Bankers own and eventually come to control fully.

Anglo-Zionist Empire has existed since at least Oliver Cromwell.

Greg Bacon , says: Website Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 1:59 pm GMT
As in the case of the Mossad asset Jeff Epstein, who was running a child-rape assembly line on his 'Orgy Island' and on his 'Lolita Express,' to ensnare weakling politicians, video-taping them in the process of raping young girls–and boys–then use that to blackmail them into becoming an enthusiastic supporter of Israel, the one lead that was never pursued was, "How many other Epstein's are out there, doing their slimy business for Israel?"

The same could be asked of this 'Mikey' Kadar terrorist, who I'm sure has plenty of accomplices world-wide, still phoning in threats or maybe spray-painting Jew cemeteries with the dreaded Nazi Swastika.

This terrorist does about one year in prison, then is set free and off to the USA he runs? If his name had been Mohammed or he was a skin-headed nationalist, he'd be in prison for the rest of his life, but since he's from that class of those Chosen by G-d, he gets a pass.

geokat62 , says: Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 2:24 pm GMT
@niente

There was an antisemitic movement headed by a provocateur, Juan Guillermo Kelly

Very interesting information. I did a quick search and the only info I found was this wiki entry in Spanish.

I used google translate to convert to English.

Do you have any sources that confirm his alleged affiliation with Mossad?

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From a young age he was a member of the Nationalist Liberation Alliance. Until then, it was led by Juan Queraltó and had a clear anti-Semitic profile that Kelly fought against. The group went on to become a shock force of Peronism.

During the bombing of Plaza de Mayo, when a group of military personnel opposed to the government of Juan Domingo Perón attempted to assassinate him and carry out a coup d'état, several squadrons of aircraft belonging to Naval Aviation, bombarded and machine-gunned them with anti-aircraft ammunition, Plaza de Mayo and the Casa Rosada, as well as the CGT building, Kelly, aided by the Nationalist Liberation Alliance, dueled with the Marines responsible for the attack. [2]

After the self-proclaimed liberating revolution dictatorship was established, after a bombardment of the headquarters of his organization, located in San Martín and Corrientes Avenue in Buenos Aires. On September 21, the coup armed forces received from Córdoba the order to eliminate that focus of resistance in the heart of the city of Buenos Aires and advanced on it with cannons and two Sherman tanks, sending an emissary to surrender. The cannons and tanks fired and some fifty men, led by Guillermo Patricio Kelly, surrendered. Those who remained inside died under the rubble of the three-story building, destroyed with gunshots. The number of deaths that some raise to more than 400 is unknown. [3] After that, he was arrested by the dictatorship and transferred to the Río Gallegos prison, where one night in 1957 he starred in a film escape along with John William Cooke, Jorge Antonio and Héctor Cámpora and other political prisoners managed to escape, after which he applied for political asylum in Chile, but this was denied. When he was about to be sent to Argentina, he escaped again, this time dressed as a woman, [required appointment] to Venezuela where Perón was. When he left Chile for Caracas, he used a new identity: he was "Doctor Vargas, psychoanalyst".

When on January 26, 1958, the newspaper El Nacional titled "Perón led the repression against the Venezuelan people," he identified him, along with Kelly, as "National Security torture consultants" and published Perón's fraternal letters to the head of that body.

When the revolution broke out in Venezuela, Perón was another of the insurgents' objectives, along with his collaborators, among whom was Kelly, and they had to take refuge in the Embassy of the Dominican Republic. Outside, more than a thousand people were shaking the entrance gate. They had already been locked up for two days, and people were still outside. All the Argentines looked askance at Kelly. "They are going to kill us all because of this one," they growled. There were several who wanted to kick him out and someone raised the motion: to vote if he should withdraw. It was not necessary: ​​Kelly decided to face up. He only asked for two conditions: that he be given a pair of dark glasses and a hat. He also asked for silver. When he walked out of the embassy and mixed with the crowd, no one could recognize him. In the midst of the seizure, Kelly made contact with two CIA agents: -- The Communists are going to enter the embassy and they are going to kill Perón. And if they kill him, the entire continent is communicated – he warned them. Finally, the United States prepared to rescue him, interceding with the revolutionary government to clear the area and facilitate his departure to the Dominican Republic. [4]

Kelly was stoned from the Caracas airport, obtained refuge in Haiti and, after a turbulent stay in which he was imprisoned, [5] crossed the border to the Dominican Republic, where he remained for a few days. He returned to Argentina in 1958 with the passport that he stole from Roberto Galán and after six months he was arrested and transferred again to the Ushuaia prison. [6]

Throughout his life he was imprisoned for almost eight years. In 1966 he occupied the headquarters of the PJ National Coordinating Board for a few hours, from where he launched a violent proclamation against union leader Augusto Vandor. [appointment required]

In 1981, in the midst of a military dictatorship, he denounced the theft of $ 60 million from Argentina, 10% of that debt belonging to General Suárez Mason, considering him a "murderer of the people." According to Kelly, Mason is involved in the YPF emptying in the 1980s. He also said that the military man worked as a mercenary training mercenary troops to fight in the Caribbean, which received money from the Nord high command, who was accused of murdering the brother and two nephews of former President Arturo Frondizi. Also involved in this robbery was former judge Pedro Narvaez who fled to Rio de Janeiro and then to Spain. [7] [8]

In 1983, he gained notoriety after formulating a series of complaints related to the P-2 Lodge, the YPF dismissal and the murder of Fernando Branca, in addition to filing a criminal complaint against Emilio Massera. Shortly thereafter, in August of that year, Kelly was kidnapped and severely beaten by a gang led by Aníbal Gordon, who claimed to have acted on the orders of the last military dictator Reynaldo Bignone and the Army Corps I.

In 1991, during the presidency of Carlos Menem, he was the host of an ATC program called Sin Concesiones, in which he maintained that it would reveal "where the children of the ´Noble Ladies´ come from", alluding to the children adopted by the director from the Clarín newspaper, Ernestina Herrera de Noble. After a meeting between Herrera de Noble, Héctor Magnetto and Carlos Menem held at the Quinta de Olivos on Thursday, May 2, 1991, Clarín and the government agreed on Kelly's air release at ATC in exchange for the air output of the program of the journalist Liliana López Foresi, Magazine 13, Journalism with an opinion, in which Menem was severely criticized. [9] [10] [11] [12]

On the subject of Herrera de Noble's children, Kelly wrote a book published by Arkel Publishing in 1993 titled Noble: Imperio Corrupto. Only 200 copies were published, although the author gave several of them to public libraries in the United States. [13]

He died on July 1, 2005 at 8:30 am, a victim of terminal cancer at the German Hospital in the City of Buenos Aires. [14] [15]

https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillermo_Kelly

Richard B , says: Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 2:35 pm GMT
@Colin Wright

Informative piece.

Very much so. Because it helps direct our attention to something very important.

Though they're good at infiltration, subversion, betrayal, destruction and death, they're no good at social-managment.

Who's "they"?

I refer to them as Jewish Supremacy Inc. (JSI).

It's a distinction worth making because it separates them from Jews who don't hate Whites and aren't obsessed with being Jewish.

They're out there, however small their numbers might be.

After all, Gilad Atzmon's not the only one.

It's also worth pointing out that JSI gets lots of help from three other groups who aren't Jewish at all. In fact they're White.

1. the cynical, self-centered whores of opportunity who will do anything to protect their own materialistic, narcissistic trough.

2. the incurably gullible, pathologically naive Whites from Left-wingy Multi-Culties to Right-wing Christian Zionists.

3. the perfectly indifferent who walk around with that stroked out look on their face from watching too much ESPN and Pornhub.

The rest of us are freedom-lovers, or TUR readers/commenters or potential TUR readers/commenters.

Meaning they'd be open to what the actual readers/commenters have to say and won't fly off the handle with a knee-jerk reaction before springing into fight or flight mode.

In short, this boils down to a battle of

Dogma versus Pragma

.

What's the difference?

Pragma is open to exposing its ideas to a process of continuous feedback and correction for the purpose of improving the quality of its social-management

And Dogma isn't.

Trinity , says: Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 2:59 pm GMT
Excuse me, but this is comical. There is no other group in America and the entire West who are more protected and more privileged than Jews. While White Gentiles are routinely attacked, beaten to a pulp, raped, and brutally murdered by Blacks, Hispanics, Pakis, Arabs, in Europe and America, just for having the temerity to walk outside in countries built by their White ancestors. How does a painted swastika equate with rape-torture murders of the Christian-Newsom Knoxville Horror? And if you think the Christian-Newsom murders are a rare crime in America, you are living under a rock. And lest we forget the Christian-Newsom Murders nor the Wichita Massacre murders were labeled "hate crimes." Despite thousands upon thousands of Black on White and other nonwhite on White attacks, rapes, murders in this country, you can bet the house that no one in Washington has voiced concerns over the violence being perpetrated on White Gentiles daily in America. America is indeed a racist country and Whites experience that racism every single day.

Remember a couple years ago when someone was calling bomb threats to Jewish Community Centers? Remember that they found out it was some Jewish guy in a Tel Aviv basement calling in the bomb threats. Of course at first the (((media))) went through their spiel about how anti-Semitism was on the rise in America, and then once we all found out that the perpetrator was a Jewish guy in Israel, ( I believe a dual citizen at that) the (((media))) dropped this case quicker than you could claim some NY/NJ rabbis were selling body organs.

Most of these hate crime HOAXES are simply Jews and/or Blacks drawing swastikas, hanging a nooses in a locker, or some other ridiculous and downright childish act that in no way even if done by a White racist who hates Jews and Blacks, equates to a Mississippi girl named Jessica Chambers being burned alive, a 12 year old white male being burned alive with a blow torch by an adult black female in Texas, etc., etc. The fact of the matter is that "hate crimes" against nonwhites and Jews are downright rare in America, ( not talking about HOAXES here) and there is no way that a crayon drawing of a swastika or hanging a noose in someone's locker can be linked as the same as someone dying a horrific and brutal death like the White victims I listed. IF we lived in a TRULY just and decent country, EVERYONE out there, regardless of color, creed or religion would recognize that we need to stop all the hate and violence directed at White Gentiles before moving on to worrying about crayon drawings.

Trinity , says: Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 3:18 pm GMT
Remember when Noel Ignatiev the Jewish professor stated we need to "abolish Whiteness?" Now imagine a White professor stating that we need to "abolish Jewishness in America?" Can you imagine what would have happened to that guy? Is it possible for a Jew in America/Canada or Europe to be fired from his or here job for making racist or inflammatory remarks about Whites?
TGD , says: Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 3:22 pm GMT
The story of Michael Kadar is reminiscent of the tale of another criminal young male with dual Israeli US citizenship, Samuel Sheinbein.

Sheinbein and a colleague murdered, dismembered and burnt a fellow high school classmate, the hispanic Fredo Enrique Tello, Jr., in September, 1997. Sheinbein fled to Israel and in a long drawn out court battle, Sheinbein's requested extradition to the State of Maryland to stand trial was refused by Israel's supreme court.

You can read the whole sordid story in Wikipedia including how Sheinbaum was killed in a shootout with the guards who were escorting him from one prison to another.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Sheinbein

Wally , says: Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 3:50 pm GMT
@Been_there_done_that A must see:
Fake Hate Crimes: a database of hate crime hoaxes in the USA :
http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/

plus:
-Mural of Tina Turner is defaced with a red swastika outside a North Carolina record store .. Who benefits? : https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7830579/Tina-Turner-mural-defaced-North-Carolina-record-store.html
– Jewish suspects arrested over swastika graffiti on synagogues : http://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-suspects-arrested-over-swastika-graffiti-on-synagogues/
– Poorly Drawn Swastikas Spray-Painted On Monument In Milwaukee : https://www.prisonplanet.com/fake-hate-trump-rules-poorly-drawn-swastikas-spray-painted-on-monument-in-milwaukee.html
Jew arrested for dozens of fake 'hate crimes': http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/23/israeli-jew-19-arrested-antisemitic-hate-crime-hoax-spree/
– Man Caught Spray Painting Swastika On College Campus Is Black : http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/16/man-caught-spray-painting-swastika-on-college-campus-is-black-report-says/
– Staged Jew bomb hoaxes: http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-files-massive-indictment-against-jcc-bomb-hoaxer-for-thousands-of-counts-of-threats-extortion-fraud/
– another staged 'hate crime' / 'Neo-Nazi' Graffiti Found In Brooklyn Synagogue – Suspect is Black leftist https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12101
– Fake Hate? 'Trump Rules' & Poorly Drawn Swastikas Spray-Painted On Monument In Milwaukee
https://www.prisonplanet.com/fake-hate-trump-rules-poorly-drawn-swastikas-spray-painted-on-monument-in-milwaukee.html
– Jewish suspects arrested over swastika graffiti on synagogues : http://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-suspects-arrested-over-swastika-graffiti-on-synagogues/

Curmudgeon , says: Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 4:39 pm GMT
@Jake Here we go with the WASP thing again. A minority of descendants of the Angles were Puritans, and even fewer Saxons were Puritans. There were also Norse Puritans, Norman Puritans and Briton Puritans. All Puritans were minorities. Many "Protestant" Churches, including the Anglican Church, considered Puritans dissenters, verging on heretics, and not really Protestants beyond protesting the Church of Rome. Knox's Presbyterians had a lot in common with Puritans as did Dutch Protestants, and there were a lot of Dutch who moved to East Anglia. Some became Puritans. It's silly to refer to it at it being "Anglo-Saxon Puritans" as not all were Angles or Saxons. They were Puritans who happened to be Angles, Saxons and others. WASP is even sillier. Are there Brown, Yellow, or Red Anglo-Saxons?

Cromwell seized power because the Stuarts were unpopular for many reasons, and as with every revolution, a minority with zealotry seizes power from an apathetic majority. Sure he turned to the Jewish Amsterdam bankers, who were already funding the Dutch Empire, including New Amsterdam, but who else would have helped? The Puritans were vehemently anti Catholic and would have never turned there. They were also vehemently anti-Muslim, so the Ottomans were out. The Jews were it by elimination.

As for the culture. The culture of the elite is seldom the culture of the general population.

The "Anglo-Saxons" were more than happy to restore the Stuarts after Cromwell, as long as they were Protestants. The installation of King Billy, replacing James, was due to James having converted to Catholicism and the fear of his imposing it on the country.

It was under William and Mary that the newly, created by Parliament, Bank of England was taken over by Jewish bankers. The same minority Puritan Parliament that restored the Stuarts and sponsored the overthrow of James.

[Apr 14, 2020] Israel as safe haven for pedophiles

Apr 14, 2020 | www.unz.com

Olivier1973 , says: Show Comment April 14, 2020 at 12:30 am GMT

@A123 Thanks a lot for bringing this subject!

Blowback:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/israel-safe-haven-paedophiles-jerusalem-sex-abuse-jewish-community-watch-a7445246.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-jewish-american-pedophiles-hide-from-justice-in-israel/

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20200221-accused-of-paedophilia-jewish-americans-are-escaping-to-israel-report-finds/

Safe haven, isn't it?

You write "peace" followed by a LOL icon. The meaning is indeed very clear. Thanks a lot for displaying so openly your hate.

[Mar 31, 2020] In the last days of the 1944/45 Mussolini Regime, the police in the area around Venice rounded up the good looking younger teenagers and imprisoned them in a mansion to be preyed upon be homosexual members of the clergy, civil service, and Magistracy.

Mar 31, 2020 | www.unz.com

anon [423] Disclaimer , says: Show Comment March 30, 2020 at 5:54 am GMT

I saw the first part of Salo in 1993, didn't return after intermission.

The film was autobiographical.

In the last days of the 1944/45 Mussolini Regime, the police in the area around Venice rounded up the good looking younger teenagers and imprisoned them in a mansion to be preyed upon be homosexual members of the clergy, civil service, and Magistracy.
The rules were explained to the children by a Ghislaine Maxwell type Madam, and were that any member of the Elite could use them in any way he saw fit, any refusal would result in the loss of a limb, any demonstration of affection between the children would result in the loss of a limb, at the choice of the offended party. A limb might be interpreted as an eye, a finger, a hand
Pasolini had waited 30 years to tell this story, murdered for his trouble a little while later.

Jones gives no clue about any of this, perhaps he never saw the film, perhaps he is a disinfo agent.

Salo was showing at the Trak cimema in Toorak, Catholics were outside on the footpath picketing, trying to dissuade people from going inside.
From the reactions of some in the theatre, they had expected to be attending a porno film.

Franz , says: Show Comment March 30, 2020 at 9:10 am GMT
Much thanks to the author for the short but thoughtful words about Pier Paolo Pasolini.

A tragic figure if there ever was one, Pasolini could see the problem. Sad he was a slave to his appetites, but perhaps during the few seconds of lucidity he had before his murderer finished him, he saw how rightly wrong he had been.

When I was way too young I saw a sadly beat-up version of The Gospel According to Saint Matthew and found it profoundly moving. Even the worn and decrepit version held out so much promise. On researching I discovered Pasolini had attempted to make a sort of mental pilgrimage with it. "I tried to see it as He would have, or someone close by," is how he put it. People tried to read social gospel and all that into it, but it defies easy analysis. It looks for all the world like a newsreel, circa the time of Christ.

Very interesting topic. Some people we see as mad or degenerate really are on a sort of journey. Many journeys end badly. Too bad Pasolini was one of them. He was a fundamentally serious soul, just not a perfect one.

[Feb 25, 2020] FBI, NYPD Raid Fashion Exec Peter Nygard's Headquarters In Sex-Trafficking Pedophilia Investigation

Feb 25, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

FBI, NYPD Raid Fashion Exec Peter Nygard's Headquarters In Sex-Trafficking Pedophilia Investigation by Tyler Durden Tue, 02/25/2020 - 11:39 The FBI and NYPD detectives raided the Manhattan headquarters of fashion executive Peter Nygard on Tuesday morning in connection with an ongoing sex-trafficking investigation , according to the New York Times , citing two law enforcement officials who spoke on condition of anonymity.

The 78-year-old Nygard has been under investigation for at least five months by a joint child-exploitation task force overseen by the Manhattan US attorney's office. According to the report, at least four women have accused Nygard in a lawsuit of sexually assaulting them when they were 14 and 15.

While the raid is the latest in an ongoing joint investigation, Nygard has racked up decades of sexual misconduct allegations culminating in lawsuits from nine women.

That lawsuit was filed this month. On Sunday, The New York Times detailed how a fight with his wealthy neighbor led to the lawsuit, and also showed a pattern of complaints about sexual misconduct by Mr. Nygard stretching back 40 years .

Nine women in Canada and California, mostly employees, have sued him or reported him to authorities alleging sexual harassment or assault since 1980 . In addition, another nine former employees told The Times in interviews that he raped them, touched them inappropriately or proposed sex. - NYT

The Times interviewed the 10 women - most of whom allege Nygard raped them during "pamper parties" in the Bahamas , his home since 1986. The parties, which mostly took place on Sundays at his lavish estate, featured young women who would receive 'pedicures, massages, Jet Ski rides and endless alcohol,' according to the report.

Nygard has denied the charges, claiming that his adversary and neighbor in the Bahamas - hedge-fund billionaire Louis Bacon and his private investigators are behind the charges. Bacon says he wanted to get justice for the women.

See here for more on the spat between Nygard and Bacon.

Meanwhile, Nygard was also investigated in late 2015 and the summer of 2017 on sex-trafficking allegations . He was also probed by the Department of Homeland Security, which investigated him for nine months with no result.

Nygard notoriously travels with an entourage of models and paid girlfriends as a self-avowed playboy. He has at least 10 children with eight women, and demands a steady supply of sex partners 'who hunted for young women at shops, clubs and restaurants' for him. Sound familiar?

[Feb 22, 2020] Jeffrey And I Had Everyone On Videotape Ghislaine Maxwell Reportedly Told Friend

Notable quotes:
"... The acquaintance, socialite and distant relative to the royals Christina Oxenberg, said that Maxwell also told her that Epstein bought a private helicopter because commercial pilots were "eyes and ears" he did not need. ..."
"... Maxwell has been accused by several alleged Epstein victims of both facilitating and participating in sexual crimes. She has vehemently denied the claims and has not been charged with any crimes in connection to Epstein's activities. ..."
Feb 22, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Jeffrey Epstein's alleged 'madam' told a former acquaintance that she and the now-dead pedophile had "everything on videotape," according to The Telegraph .

The acquaintance, socialite and distant relative to the royals Christina Oxenberg, said that Maxwell also told her that Epstein bought a private helicopter because commercial pilots were "eyes and ears" he did not need.

She revealed she had spoken to the FBI about what she had been told.

Ms Oxenberg, 57, first met Maxwell in the early 1990s and said she would never forget a conversation the pair once had in Maxwell's home.

"We were alone," she said. "She said many things. All creepy. Unorthodox. Strange. I could not believe whatever she was saying was real. Stuff like: 'Jeffrey and I have everyone on videotape.'"...

Maxwell has been accused by several alleged Epstein victims of both facilitating and participating in sexual crimes. She has vehemently denied the claims and has not been charged with any crimes in connection to Epstein's activities.

If true, we wonder who exactly was taped?

[Feb 21, 2020] Who Is Les Wexner Decline and Fall of Victoria's Secret Titan

Feb 21, 2020 | www.bloomberg.com

L Brands went public in 1969 and Wexner was a billionaire by the 1980s, a person familiar with his finances has said. A self-proclaimed workhorse, Wexner preferred to focus on his job rather than managing his money, according to people who knew him at the time.

Then Epstein showed up.

The former math teacher and Bear Stearns Cos. banker became a central figure in the billionaire's life. The pair met in the late 1980s in Palm Beach, Florida, when Epstein was hustling for clients of his money-management firm that he said catered only to billionaires. The New Yorker and Wexner, one of the nation's richest people at the time, struck up a friendship that seemed odd to some who were close to the fashion mogul. Wexner soon abandoned the money manager he had been working with. In 1991, he gave Epstein power of attorney. He explained in a letter to his philanthropic foundation in August -- days before Epstein hanged himself in his Manhattan jail cell -- that the financier previously had "wide latitude to act on my behalf with respect to my personal finances." 'Good Decisions'

One of Epstein's roles was to manage Wexner's soaring stock holdings, but his duties also included suburban planning and yacht design. He represented Wexner when the billionaire sold a New York townhouse to the German government in 1991, according to Jessica Rohm, a retired real estate agent. Epstein was the beneficiary of hand-me-downs including a Boeing 727 and another Manhattan mansion on East 71st Street. "He votes the shares. I decide when to sell it," Epstein said in a 2003 interview at his private Caribbean island. "If you take a look back you'll see I've made very good decisions."

Wexner has a $7 billion fortune, according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index . Less than a fifth of that is tied up in L Brands, thanks in part to the share sales Epstein oversaw. The mandate proved enormously profitable for him. Epstein's Financial Trust Co. collected $208 million in fee income from 2003 through 2006, according to accounts first obtained by the New York Times.

The filings indicate that Wexner was his central -- perhaps only -- backer in those years. When the two cut ties in 2007, fee income at Financial Trust fell to $4 million that year from $66 million in 2006.

Epstein's Backer

Fee income at financier's firm cratered after Wexner cut ties

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Twelve years later, in July 2019, those ties sparked a crisis for Wexner after Epstein was arrested and charged with sex trafficking. After weeks of silence, Wexner disavowed the convicted pedophile, who had served time on other charges in Florida a decade earlier, noting his former money manager had "misappropriated vast sums of money from me and my family." Days later, Epstein was dead.

[Feb 20, 2020] Epstein Mentor Les Wexner Leaves L Brands, Sells 55% Stake In Victoria's Secret For $525 Million

Feb 20, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Les Wexner is stepping down as chairman and CEO of L Brands as the company prepares to sell a 55% stake in its flagship brand, Victoria's Secret, to private equity firm Sycamore Partners for $525 million, according to a pair of reports from Bloomberg and WSJ.

Last month, we reported that Wexner, a longtime friend, benefactor and mentor to financier pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, was preparing to sell the company that he essentially built and led for decades.

Sources familiar with the talks told WSJ at the time that a full or partial sale of Victoria's Secret was expected, as the company was finally giving up on turning around the struggling lingerie brand.

WSJ described the decision to give up control of Victoria's Secret was an acknowledgement that 82-year-old billionaire Wexner "couldn't revei the fortunes of a troubled lingerie brand he had built around shopping malls and sex appeal.

Three other L Brands board members will step down along with Wexner, though Abigail's will remain on the board. A successor has already been chosen, per WSJ.

In an internal memo to staff, Mr. Wexner shared news of the deal and his departure. "I've thought about where I fit in the picture," he wrote in the email. "In keeping with this same thoughtful examination, I have decided that now is the right time to pass the reins to new leadership."

L Brands said it had promoted one of its longtime executives, Andrew Meslow, to take over as chief executive and be added to the board when the Sycamore deal closes. Mr. Meslow, who joined the company in 2003, is chief operating officer of its Bath & Body Works chain.

Three longtime board members, including L Brand's lead independent director, will step down at the next annual meeting. Two other directors left last year amid pressure from an activist investor. Mr. Wexner, who owns a 17% stake, and his wife Abigail will keep seats on the board.

The deal will spin off VS as a separate company with a valuation worth $1.1 billion, just a fraction of the $34 billion valuation for Lululemon Athletica and other rivals.

[Feb 10, 2020] Victoria's Secret Sale To Sycamore Imminent; L Brands' Shares Pop

Notable quotes:
"... - Alex Acosta Federal Prosecutor was told to tank the case against Epstein because Epstein was Intelligence, who gave Acosta the order, his Boss AG Gonzales who reported directly the Bush Jr aka Clinton's brother from another mother ? ..."
"... He's not being terminated, he's being removed from the scene. Financier of pedofile ring and abuser of women is not positive for the brand. Even if branch is only throw away underwear - maybe he can move into adult diaper industry. ..."
Feb 10, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Victoria's Secret Sale To Sycamore Imminent; L Brands' Shares Pop by Tyler Durden Mon, 02/10/2020 - 07:15 0 SHARES Shares of Victoria's Secret parent company L Brands jumped 10% Monday on news private equity firm Sycamore Partners is close to a deal to purchase the women's lingerie brand, reported CNBC .

News of the potential deal involving Sycamore was released in the overnight hours, with more details expected this week.

There was no word on a succession plan for L Brands CEO Les Wexner. Still, as we noted several weeks ago, his mediocre performance as CEO and controversial relationship with late sex criminal Jeffrey Epstein , assured that his time at the helm of the company is coming to an end. That said, since we first previewed the potential sale of Victoria's Secret, there has been no indication if the transaction is tied to Wexner's relationship with Epstein.

Victoria's Secret has experienced declining sales in the last four years, which triggered a mass exodus of investors from L Brands' stock, sending it plunging 74% since 2016. Shareholders criticized Wexner for his inability to evolve Victoria's Secret to changing consumer demands, despite L Brands having massive success in its other companies, such as Bath & Bodyworks personal care shop.

Victoria's Secret generated $7.4 billion in sales last year but has been considered a dying brand among consumers.


William Dorritt , 3 hours ago link

WEXNER & THE OTHER OLIGARCHS WHO FINANCED EPSTEIN'S KIDDIE SEX SLAVE OPERATION

William Dorritt , 4 hours ago link

WEXNER'S 300 ft yacht will never be sold

- Too much physical evidence on the ship ??

- It will be quietly scrapped in Pakistan

while the DOJ, FBI and Federal Courts continue to provide cover for the Elite Pedos

- 2 x CIA and 1 former Mosad have stated that Epstein was a Mosad Compromise Operation

- The operation created Control Files on the Business, Academic (MIT, Harvard etc) and Political Elite in the US and Europe

- Dershowitz and Weinstein were frequent Flyers as were both Clintons

- Virginia Roberts testified she was forced to have sex with Dershowitz who she found repulsive

- Prince Andrew was photographed embracing under age Roberts inside of the Wexner-Epstein kiddie sex mansion in NYC as was Israeli PM Barak who also supplied Weinstein with former Mosad contact; company that specialized in making PR problems go away, Black Cube

- Asia Argento, Me Too, accused Weinstein of raping her and up to 100 other actresses; boyfriend Antony Bordain who had outspoken against Weinstein died after x Mosad was employed to solve problems

- Epstein was a Globalist who belonged to the CFR and Tri Lateral Commission

- Epstein ran a Eugenics program in NM, in the Middle of the Governor's Ranch, Zorro Ranch

- Bill Gates was friends with Epstein after Epstein's kiddi-sex conviction

- McCain's wife said they knew about Epstein, and did zero for the kiddie-sex-slaves

- Epstein's neighbor in the Virgin Island also ran a sex slave cult operation, Nexium

- Alex Acosta Federal Prosecutor was told to tank the case against Epstein because Epstein was Intelligence, who gave Acosta the order, his Boss AG Gonzales who reported directly the Bush Jr aka Clinton's brother from another mother ?

- AG Barr successfully defended the Acosta deal as AG, the next day the Federal Judge who approved the original deal told the kiddie sex victime 30+ of them to piss up a rope or better luck next time

- Epstein's "death" ended all legal action in the courts

- Sleeping guards, the cameras were broken, hung himself with toilet paper from 3 feet etc, videos lost and erased from prison. 4- chan reported Epstein taken out of prison in van minutes before death announcement was made

- Disney was bring children to Epstein Island

Seasmoke , 4 hours ago link

Wexner > Epstein.

mendigo , 4 hours ago link

He's not being terminated, he's being removed from the scene. Financier of pedofile ring and abuser of women is not positive for the brand. Even if branch is only throw away underwear - maybe he can move into adult diaper industry.

William Dorritt , 2 hours ago link

Wiki

Sycamore Partners was founded in 2011 by Stefan Kaluzny and Peter Morrow. Before Sycamore, Kaluzny was a Managing Partner at Golden Gate Capital and was employed since the firm's inception. Prior to joining Golden Gate, he co-founded Delray Farms, Inc. and also served as its Chief Executive Officer. Kaluzny received a BA from Yale University and an MBA from Harvard Business School . Morrow served as a Principal at Golden Gate before co-founding Sycamore. Morrow received a BA from Stanford University and an MBA from Stanford Graduate School of Business .

LBO = Asset Stripping, Pension Stripping, Part time workers, WalMart Pay Scale, No benefits, Everything Made in Slave Countries ????

NAV , 17 minutes ago link

New York: Stefan Kaluzny has made a ton of money -- and drawn his share of critics -- buying down-on-the-heels retailers using lots of debt.

Now, Kaluzny's Sycamore Partners is under scrutiny again, after completing a deal that left even seasoned leveraged-buyout experts agog. On Tuesday, Sycamore pulled off a $5.4 billion refinancing of Staples Inc., which it bought in 2017, that funded a staggering $1 billion dividend to the private equity firm.

The dividend is among the biggest in recent memory, even in a world where buyout firms routinely extract large sums for themselves after taking companies private. Combined with a payment it took in January, it means Sycamore has recovered -- in less than two years -- roughly 80% of the equity it originally put up as part of the deal. Private equity investors typically run their companies for five to seven years before taking profits and exiting the investment. - Sycamore Partners under scrutiny after pocketing $1 billion from Staples deal, live mint.com

MARDUKTA , 3 hours ago link

WEXNER A SICK ******* POS PEDO, WEAPONS AND DRUG TRAFFICKER WHO WILL HANG AT GITMO WHEN IT'S HIS TURN.

WHY THE HELL DO YOU THINK HE SOLD HIS **** COMPANY?

YO, EPSTEIN!

ReflectoMatic , 3 hours ago link

Draw a huge oval shaped ring around the San Luis Valley of Colorado, at the top edge is Vail, at the bottom edge is the Epstein Zorro Ranch. In the center is the Blood-of Christ Mnt, Crestone and the Baca Grande Ranch which was owned by Maurice Strong, and where his wife Hanne & Nazi paperclip Vrill communicated with non-human beings starting in 1978.

In 1982 Maurice convened in Vail a gathering of the 300 top world leaders to 'hand them' the plan during a week long gathering in which they were drugged with psychedelics. 10 years later Maurice gave us Agenda 21 then in 2015 Agenda 2030, meanwhile, trade with China expanded and factories were relocated to China, the European Union was created and the North American Union was being created in secret. All seemed to be progressing well to bring about the plan, the One World Government & Religion (GAIA).

Did China get suckered by the globalist & democrats into thinking they were going to takeover the United States? Even worse, did the globalist think they were playing the top of the game?

Jeffery Epstein is thought to be the Messiah of biblical prophesy by many of the most powerful people. China is now a sort of leper colony. Saint James, kin to Jesus, and a central theme of this play, it is home of Rothschild & Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell. The associated mindset/group, they bring to us this plague of bat theme.

The brains were at the northern edge, that ring, in Vail. The

[Feb 02, 2020] I Felt Like I Was In Hell - NYT Exposes Rampant Sexism, Harassment Toxic Masculinity At Victoria's Secret

Feb 02, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

The reaction that L Brands shareholders displayed last week following reports that Les Wexner was planning to sell Victoria's Secret and step down from leading the parent company is all readers really need to know when it comes to Wexner's legacy.

As the founder and CEO of L Brands, Wexner took Victoria's Secret, a brand he bought in 1980 for a million dollars and transformed it into a multibillion dollar juggernaut in women's fashion. But years of tepid sales, combined with the cancellation of the VS fashion show and the canning of longtime marketing chief Ed Razek last August were harbingers of more change to come. And after Wexner's name was once again dragged through the mud thanks to his status as a key enabler of former protege Jeffrey Epstein (with whispers that his conduct as Epstein's biggest financial benefactor might even have verged on criminal), it seemed obvious that the man who once ruled the company from a position of untouchable strength had finally lost the confidence of the board, and - more importantly - of its investors.

When news of the pending sale of VS and Wexner's plan for retirement hit the tape last week, some wondered about the timing, seeing as the company's earnings report isn't due for another three-and-a-half weeks.

Well, a report published Saturday by the New York Times might offer a few clues. After four Times reporters interviewed more than two dozen former models and employees, the paper put together a #MeToo-style expose revealing allegations of abusive behavior by top executives - behavior that Wexner was aware of, and which he openly condoned.

But rampant sexism and a culture that protected bullies and sex pests weren't Wexner's only shortcomings, according to NYT. He also rebuffed and punished executives who tried to steer Victoria's Secret in a more progressive and contemporary direction - for example, executives who suggested selling underwear that could actually fit American women.

Six current and former executives said in interviews that when they tried to steer the company away from what one called its "porny" image, they were rebuffed. Three said they had been driven out of the company.

Criticism of Victoria's Secret's anachronistic marketing went viral in 2018 when Mr. Razek expressed no interest in casting plus-size and "transsexual" models in the fashion show.

When it came to depredations targeting models, Razek showed no qualms about flexing his power and leverage to try and push models to date him.

He also clearly allowed Epstein to portray himself as an executive at the company as a ruse to meet with models.

"I had spent all of my savings getting Victoria's Secret lingerie to prepare for what I thought would be my audition," a woman identified as Jane Doe said in a statement read aloud last summer in a federal court hearing in the Epstein case. "But instead it seemed like a casting call for prostitution. I felt like I was in hell."

Razek left the company in August, just before the company cancelled the Victoria's Secret fashion show. But the blame for his behavior ultimately falls on Wexner, an executive who clearly had no qualms about enabling abusers, especially when their victims were minors and/or women.

"With the exception of Les, I've been with L Brands longer than anyone," Mr. Razek wrote to employees in August when he announced he was leaving the company he had joined in 1983.

Mr. Razek was instrumental in selecting the brand's supermodels - known as "Angels" and bestowed with enormous, feathery wings - and in creating the company's macho TV ads.

But his biggest legacy was the annual fashion show, which became a global cultural phenomenon.

"That's really where he sunk his teeth into the business," said Cynthia Fedus-Fields, the former chief executive of the Victoria's Secret division responsible for its catalog. By 2000, she said, Mr. Razek had grown so powerful that "he spoke for Les."

Wexner was also portrayed as behind the times, particularly where his views on the 'body positive' movement were concerned

In March, at a meeting at Victoria's Secret headquarters in Columbus, Ohio, an employee asked Mr. Wexner what he thought about the retail industry's embrace of different body types. He was dismissive.

"Nobody goes to a plastic surgeon and says, 'Make me fat'" Mr. Wexner replied, according to two attendees.

Razek would sometimes directly remind models that he could make or break their careers.

Mr. Razek often reminded models that their careers were in his hands, according to models and current and former executives who heard his remarks.

Alyssa Miller, who had been an occasional Victoria's Secret model, described Mr. Razek as someone who exuded "toxic masculinity." She summed up his attitude as: "I am the holder of the power. I can make you or break you."

He would sometimes pester models for their phone numbers while they were standing around in VS lingerie. He also showed a preference for young, typically barely legal models.

At castings, Mr. Razek sometimes asked models in their bras and underwear for their phone numbers, according to three people who witnessed his advances. He urged others to sit on his lap. Two models said he had asked them to have private dinners with him.

One was Ms. Muise. In 2007, after two years of wearing the coveted angel wings in the Victoria's Secret runway show, the 19-year-old was invited to dinner with Mr. Razek. She was excited to cultivate a professional relationship with one of the fashion industry's most powerful men, she said.

Mr. Razek picked her up in a chauffeured car. On the way to the restaurant, he tried to kiss her, she said. Ms. Muise rebuffed him; Mr. Razek persisted.

For months, he sent her intimate emails, which The Times reviewed. At one point he suggested they move in together in his house in Turks and Caicos. Another time, he urged Ms. Muise to help him find a home in the Dominican Republic for them to share.

"I need someplace sexy to take you!" he wrote.

Ms. Muise maintained a polite tone in her emails, trying to protect her career. When Mr. Razek asked her to come to his New York home for dinner, Ms. Muise said the prospect of dining alone with Mr. Razek made her uneasy; she skipped the dinner.

She soon learned that for the first time in four years, Victoria's Secret had not picked her for its 2008 fashion show.

One incident reported by the NYT is particularly cringe-worthy: Razek allegedly made a lewd comment about supermodel Bella Hadid's "titties", and whether they would meet TV standards, right in front of the influential model and her team.

In 2018, at a fitting ahead of the fashion show, the supermodel Bella Hadid was being measured for underwear that would meet broadcast standards. Mr. Razek sat on a couch, watching.

"Forget the panties," he declared, according to three people who were there and a fourth who was told about it. The bigger question, he said, was whether the TV network would let Ms. Hadid walk "down the runway with those perfect titties." (One witness remembered Mr. Razek using the word "breasts," not "titties.")

At the same fitting, Mr. Razek placed his hand on another model's underwear-clad crotch, three people said.

And with that, the same newspaper that helped launch the #MeToo movement has claimed another scalp in its crusade to rework American culture in accordance with its progressive, 'body positive' agenda. The age of Wexner and Razek at L Brands has ended. What's next? Only time will tell.

[Jan 25, 2020] "We All Knew About Epstein" Admits Cindy McCain - Who Did Nothing About It

Jan 25, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

by Tyler Durden Sat, 01/25/2020 - 18:30 0 SHARES

Sen. John McCain's widow says "everyone" knew about Jeffrey Epstein's sex trafficking ring, but were "afraid" to do anything about it.

"Epstein was hiding in plain sight," said McCain, during an appearance at the State of the World 2020 conference in Florida, according to the Washington Examiner .

" We all knew about him. We all knew what he was doing, but we had no one that was -- no legal aspect that would go after him . They were afraid of him. For whatever reason, they were afraid of him."

McCain said a girl from her daughter's high school was one of Epstein's victims and that she hopes Epstein "is in hell."

Epstein's massive wealth and his connections to powerful politicians and celebrities allowed him to continue trafficking young women and girls long after many had exposed his devious interests.

Dr. Barbara Sampson, the New York City medical examiner, said Epstein died by suicide at a Manhattan federal detention facility last August. His death and the circumstances surrounding it have created controversy after the former medical examiner of New York, Dr. Michael Baden, told 60 Minutes that he believes Epstein was murdered . - Washington Examiner

https://www.youtube.com/embed/MwE0P1UYPm0

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[Jan 23, 2020] Ghislaine Hacked Jeffrey Epstein's Alleged Madam Claims Email Server 'Breached'

Jan 23, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Give Me Some Truth , 1 hour ago link

How is it possible that Maxwell's lawyers keep doing all this work for her when nobody apparently knows where she is?

I know all kind of civil lawyers are trying to reach her for questioning, depositions, etc? If her lawyers know where she is, do they have to reveal this? I guess not. Or they are working for someone they never even talk to?

Bizarre.

Give Me Some Truth , 1 hour ago link

Jean Brunnell, the modeling agency executive and another one of Epstein's main procurers of girls, is another important Epstein accomplice who is apparently on the lam (and another co-accoplice authorities have not arrested or even questioned).

Brunnell's lawyer has actually admitted in interviews that he has no idea where his client is.

Brunnel had previously been quoted that he would be eager and willing to work with authorities or answer their questions. This same lawyer responded to this quote, with the comment, "I don't know about that." I at least give him points for honesty.

toady , 1 hour ago link

This is the stuff...

They need not be allowed a defense unless they appear. Tried in absentia, with a defense... convicted without the ability to appeal due to their failure to appear. And the lawyers should be sent to gitmo until they give them up.

Give Me Some Truth , 1 hour ago link

It has now been over a year since the DOJ "re-opened" its "investigation" into Epstein. Any prosecutor who has just passed his bar exam would need only a few weeks to compile a mountain of evidence against Ghislaine Maxwell. Enough to charge her with scores of crimes.

And it's not like the Feds were starting from scratch. In 2007, the FBI did its own investigation (until it was spiked) and this after the Palm Beach Police Department had compiled its own mountains of evidence. Plus, there have been numerous civil court filings that prove her guilt and complicity as well as numerous public comments of former victims, all of whom implicate and name her as Epstein's key partner.

The fact she is so clearly "off limits" is the greatest tell about the scale of corruption and the extent of the cover-up involved here.

... Now, I do think at some point authorities will conclude they have no choice but to charge her (given that the entire world thinks just like me), so it will be interesting how they handle her if and when she is arrested. They certainly will not use her to reveal the entire real story. They simply cannot do this at this point without charging scores of current and former government employees.

Why are the FBI and DOJ even being allowed to lead this "Investigation?"

[Jan 20, 2020] Everything you wanted to know about Prince Andrew but was afraid to ask

Jan 20, 2020 | youtu.be

RobG Everything you wanted to know about Prince Andrew but was afraid to ask

https://youtu.be/OkCn_V6juxM?t=4378

[Jan 20, 2020] The type who would want a frightened little girl (someone like a Bill Clinton) is a much more devious character. They're into power. They crave fear.

Jan 20, 2020 | www.unz.com

Thomasina , says: Show Comment January 20, 2020 at 8:02 pm GMT

@Rev. Spooner I would highly doubt Trump has had sex with minors or raped women. It doesn't fit his MO. Crass, big-mouthed, a braggart? Yes, but not a rapist or a child abuser. Trump likes big, glamorous women who he can impress with his money, who make HIM look good, the type who come to him, not little girls who are frightened. He's into enticing women with his status.

The type who would want a frightened little girl (someone like a Bill Clinton) is a much more devious character. They're into power. They crave fear. "Look how powerful I am, they're frightened of me." Now this is a sick individual.

And no way Trump is a rapist. He doesn't have to be; it would be beneath him, in his mind.

[Jan 12, 2020] The founder of TruNews accused PayPal of conducting a financial pogrom hours after the Florida-based Christian broadcaster published a hard-hitting news report that linked the Jeffrey Epstein child sex scandal to Israel s Mossad spy agency

Jan 12, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Pollygotacracker , 4 minutes ago link

Rick Wiles (TruNews) goes full red pill on Zionist Israel. The U.S. is conquered territory. You will be placed in a digital ghetto if you discuss Israel's crimes, or complain about the Jewish mafia takeover in America. Rabbi Trumpenstein will look the other way to appease his Jewish handlers. These outrageous Jewish actions are becoming more and more outrageous under the Agent Orange administration. Meanwhile, we are distracted by what is going on in the M.E.

Jeffrey Epstein was a Mossad operative who was tasked with blackmailing influential politicians and persons of interest in the West, but in America in particular.

TruNews got dropped by PayPal after this report. The video is an hour long, but the best bit is the opening monologue, which is shorter. Here is the summary.

TruNews :

The founder of TruNews accused PayPal of conducting a "financial pogrom" hours after the Florida-based Christian broadcaster published a hard-hitting news report that linked the Jeffrey Epstein child sex scandal to Israel's Mossad spy agency.

PayPal abruptly terminated the account of TruNews without warning or explanation. The conservative Christian news program has received donations in its PayPal account for more than 16 years without any problems. TruNews is funded by donations from viewers. The weekday Christian news and commentary program started in 1999.

TruNews' founder and host Rick Wiles accused PayPal CEO Daniel Schulman, a progressive leftwing Jewish business executive, of punishing the Christian broadcaster for its hard-hitting reports on Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell:

"PayPal abruptly closed our account on the morning of January 3, 2020. TruNews' report on January 2 was titled 'Ghislaine Maxwell: Which spy agency is hiding her?' Our newscast focused on her father's longtime service to Israel's intelligence agencies, how she was Jeffrey Epstein's handler for Mossad, and how Epstein's team video-recorded influential American men having sex with underage girls who had been recruited by Ghislaine Maxwell."

Wiles said the swiftness of PayPal's action hours after the release of TruNews' report on the Epstein-Maxwell-Mossad child sex blackmail operation was not a coincidence:

"Any American citizen or entity that questions Israeli actions and its influence in America are now marked targets. Israel's blackmail operation in America for over 30 years was so successful that it is now dangerous for any law-abiding American citizen to demand a real investigation into the biggest scandal in American history which resulted in much of America's ruling class being caught in a child-sex blackmail trap."

Damn. When you're right, you're right, Rick.

Rick Wiles even saw through the whole fake "teen sex" angle that the media was pushing and promoting. The real story wasn't some 16-year-old girls, but the children that the Jews were using for blackmail purposes. This is the real kompromat that the Jews have on our politicians.

Wiles accused PayPal of conducting a financial pogrom against opponents of Israeli Zionism.

"TruNews is a victim of a PayPal pogrom. PayPal and the other Techno-Nazis like YouTube and Facebook are pushing American patriots into digital ghettos if they dare to act like free men and women."

Wiles said he is driven by his commitment to justice:

"TruNews is demanding justice for thousands of American girls who were raped in Epstein's fake mansions, and we're demanding a legitimate investigation into Israel's blackmailing of influential American men."

Wiles admitted he has little hope of seeing a real investigation because the FBI and Department of Justice have been corrupted too.

When you understand the Jewish Question, you can just cut through the ******** like a laser. The JQ like nothing else sharpens the minds and hones you in on the truth.

PayPal also abruptly closed on the same day the account of Bless an Orphan; a nonprofit Christian ministry founded by Wiles' daughter Karissa Washburn. The Florida-based organization rescues children in South America who were kidnapped or sold into sex trafficking. Wiles blasted PayPal for punishing his daughter:

"PayPal's action against Bless an Orphan was cruel and vindictive. Daniel Schulman punished my daughter who is saving the

lives of little girls who were sold to sex traffickers. PayPal closed Bless an Orphan's account for one reason. They wanted to intimidate me by targeting my daughter. PayPal is also making me aware that they know what my daughter is doing in South America to rescue children."

TruNews has relentlessly pursued the Jeffrey Epstein child sex scandal. The Christian news organization believes that Ghislaine Maxwell was Epstein's Mossad handler, not his lover. Maxwell is the daughter of the late Robert Maxwell who mysteriously drowned in 1991. Maxwell, whose real name was Ján Ludvík Hyman Binyamin Hoch, was a Jewish billionaire who was suspected of being a Mossad agent. He was given a state funeral in Israel and buried on the Mount of Olives.

TruNews also believes that Epstein was not a billionaire, but an imposter recruited by Mossad to act like a billionaire:

"You cannot convince me that Jeffrey Epstein was a self-made billionaire with only one client who owned mansions throughout America and London and Paris. His mansions were owned by wealthy Jews through trusts."

Absolutely correct.

The outspoken TruNews founder also wants to know who received the video feeds from Epstein's mansions:

"According to anonymous former employees and women who were in those homes as teenagers, we know that cameras were in all bedrooms and bathrooms that fed video to secret media rooms that were staffed with people capturing the child sex acts on video. Who received the video? I believe it was sent to Tel Aviv for blackmail purposes."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKpVZBSStlc&t=1830s

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Tiny_Pay 2 points · 5 hours ago

What a weird tweet. level 1

IAmTeaBag4 2 points · 4 hours ago

Paul is probably just trying to get ahead of it. Possibly he was tipped off he was about to be busted? Just a thought. Nothing better than blaming Q in a leftist mind..

Edit: In the Alex Jones case they sent the child porn as an attachment to an email. This is straight up using his IP address. I'm no computer expert so I don't know if this can be done? Or how hard it would be to do. level 2

Tarlok888 1 point · 3 hours ago

If someone had a backdoor into his system, it's theoretically possible they could have done it by remote control. His description of it is completely ridiculous, though. Continue this thread level 1

nocoinerclub 1 point · 3 hours ago

even though prison limits Internet usage, the good news is he'll be allowed to use a FAX MACHINE!


(FYI- Krugman's two famous predictions are 1) bitcoin is not worth its $100 price and will soon go to $0.. and 2) the Internet will fail and be nothing more than a glorified fax machine)

[Jan 08, 2020] Something is really fishy with Paul Krugman: he complained that someone used his IP address to download child porn

Something is really fishy here. Dynamic IP address is reassigned only if you do not switch on you computer on for several days, which is not very probable for Krugman. Otherwise it is glued to this device and is difficult to highjack without installing malware on the computer or router. and he should have static IP anyway, he is not some poor shmuck and can afford extra $10 a month to have.
Two devices with the same IP on the network are usually automatically detected and it is difficult to use them for download, as during this time the second device will lose Internet connection completely and the problem will be detected by the ISP support.
So the only option is that somebody installed backdoor malware on Krugman computer and used his harddrive for storage. That's an extremely improbable scenario, unless he visited some grey site himself.
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Death2Fiat , 5 minutes ago link

No doubt Krugman has dirt on him for blackmail. No one gets his kind of job without being compromised.

The Last Sasquatch , 12 minutes ago link

These aren't my pants

Johann Gelbwesten , 25 minutes ago link

Probably happened when he clicked on an email from Prince Andrew.

theWHTMANN , 25 minutes ago link

C'mon that guy's face screams...

CosmoJoe , 31 minutes ago link

Getting ahead of it quickly eh Paul?

WP82 , 32 minutes ago link

Gee. Maybe it's nobody other than Krugman using His IP address.

Covering his a$$?

Captain Phoebus , 33 minutes ago link

Don't we believe him?

Jackprong , 35 minutes ago link

Typical ... to blame his actions on his perceived enemies.

[Dec 23, 2019] From "Spook Air" to the "Lolita Express" The Genesis and Evolution of the Jeffrey Epstein-Bill Clinton Relationship by Whitne

Notable quotes:
"... Far from being the work of a single political party, intelligence agency or country, the power structure revealed by the network connected to Epstein is nothing less than a criminal enterprise that is willing to use and abuse children in the pursuit of ever more power, wealth and control. ..."
"... According to one U.S. investigator with substantial knowledge of BCCI's activities, some BCCI officials have acknowledged that some of the females provided some members of the Al-Nahyan family [one of the ruling families in the UAE] were young girls who had not yet reached puberty, and in certain cases, were physically injured by the experience. The official said that former BCCI officials had told him that BCCI also provided males to homosexual VIPs." ..."
"... BCCI was largely brought into the United States business community through the efforts of Jackson Stephens and Bert Lance, former budget director for Jimmy Carter, who assisted with BCCI's acquisition of First American Bank. The law firm involved in this effort was Arkansas' Rose Law Firm and it involved several of the firm's lawyers, including Hillary Rodham Clinton, Webster Hubbell and C.J. Giroir. Also involved in the effort was Clark Clifford, former Secretary of Defense under Lyndon B. Johnson, and Kamal Adham, former director general of Saudi intelligence. ..."
"... The late journalist Michael Ruppert asserted that this "bugged software" was none other than the Promis software, which both U.S. and Israeli intelligence had bugged in order to spy on intelligence and which had been marketed in part by Robert Maxwell, father of Jeffrey Epstein's madam, Ghislaine Maxwell. Ruppert cited Systematics as "a primary developer of Promis for financial intelligence use." Promis had originally been leased by Inslaw Inc., a small software company founded by Bill Hamilton, to the Department of Justice -- which later stole it from Inslaw, forcing it to declare bankruptcy. ..."
"... Systematics also had a subsidiary in Israel that, according to a former Israeli intelligence officer, was operated by contractors for the Mossad and sold software to banks and telecommunications companies. According to Richardson's letter, that Israeli subsidiary of Systematics also had a Massachusetts-based front company, which was partially owned by a former U.S. intelligence official. ..."
"... Two partners in the Rose Law Firm who would later serve in the Clinton administration, Vince Foster and Webster Hubbell, acquired significant financial interests in Systematics through ownership in Alltel, which purchased Systematics in the early 1990s. The Hamiltons also provide considerable evidence that Foster's distress prior to his death in 1993 appears to have been related to concerns about litigation involving Systematics and the on-going litigation over Promis' theft. ..."
"... Casolaro had been investigating an international crime syndicate he termed " the Octopus " at the time of his death in 1991. Casolaro believed that this "Octopus" involved powerful individuals in the private and public sectors as well as the criminal underworld and that they were collectively responsible for some of the biggest scandals of the 1980s, including Iran-Contra, BCCI and the theft of the Promis software. ..."
"... Two days after arriving in Martinsburg, Casolaro was found dead in his hotel room and his briefcase full of his research notes and evidence was missing. His death was ruled a suicide. ..."
"... Speculation only grew following the FBI investigation , given that the FBI lied to Congress, pressured its own agents not to question whether it was a suicide and lost 90 percent of its files related to Casolaro's death -- among other glaring inconsistencies. ..."
"... Ostrovsky, in his #1 New York Times bestseller " By Way of Deception ," notes that Khashoggi had been recruited by the Mossad years before and that his private jet had been fitted in Israel. In relation to Iran-Contra, Ostrovsky claims that it was a $5 million bridge loan that Khashoggi provided that helped to overcome the lack of trust between Israel and Iran during the initial arms deals in the early 1980s, and thus his participation was critical to the success of the scheme. ..."
"... One of Epstein's clients after leaving Bear Stearns, per Ward's sources, was the CIA/Mossad-linked Khashoggi at the very time that Khashoggi was involved in Iran-Contra, an operation involving both U.S. and Israeli intelligence. British journalist Nigel Rosser reported in January 2001 in the Evening Standard that Epstein had claimed that he was also working for the CIA during this same time period. ..."
"... Since Epstein's arrest, records of Rosser's article have been scrubbed from British newspaper archives, including the Evening Standard 's own. However, MintPress independently confirmed with Bob Fitrakis, whom Rosser had interviewed for the article in question, that the article did allege that Epstein used to claim he worked for the CIA. In addition, other reports from the time period cited excerpts of Rosser's article, including the reference to Epstein's past claims of involvement with the CIA. ..."
"... Though Epstein denied past connections to the CIA at the time Rosser's article was published, it is worth mentioning that Robert Maxwell -- father of Ghislaine Maxwell and long-time Mossad operative -- also vehemently denied his now well-documented links to Israeli intelligence until his death. Furthermore, as will be shown later in this article, Epstein and his only known billionaire "client," Leslie Wexner, would later forge a business relationship with the CIA front company Southern Air Transport and play a major role in the airline's relocation to Columbus, Ohio in the mid-1990s. During that period, two prominent Ohio officials believed that both Epstein and Wexner were working with the CIA, according to Ohio-based journalist Bob Fitrakis. ..."
"... Furthermore, there is the additional fact that BCCI trafficked underage girls for sex as a means of obtaining favors from and gaining leverage over powerful individuals, something in which Epstein would later become deeply involved. As was shown in Part II of this series, several individuals who were running either sexual blackmail operations involving minors or child trafficking operations were connected to CIA front companies like BCCI, other organizations connected to the Iran-Contra scandal, and several individuals close to the Reagan White House. ..."
"... The CIA director at the time, Bill Casey, was a close friend of Roy Cohn, who also ran the sexual blackmail operation involving underage boys out of Manhattan's Plaza Hotel, described in Part I of this series. According to Cohn's long-time secretary Christine Seymour, Casey was one of Cohn's most frequent callers. ..."
"... [T]he CIA may have used B.C.C.I. as more than an undercover banker: U.S. agents collaborated with the black network in several operations, according to a B.C.C.I. black-network "officer" who is now a secret U.S. government witness. Sources have told investigators that B.C.C.I. worked closely with Israel's spy agencies and other Western intelligence groups as well, especially in arms deals ." (emphasis added) ..."
"... Later iterations of that arms deal were allegedly brokered with the involvement of Prince Charles of the British royal family, and corruption investigations into Al Yamamah were later shut down by the efforts of Tony Blair as well as Prince Andrew. Leese is said to have spoken of Epstein's "genius" and lack of morals when he introduced him to Steve Hoffenberg of Tower Financial, and soon after that introduction Hoffenberg hired Epstein. ..."
"... Two years after BCCI's fraud-driven collapse, Tower Financial imploded in 1993 in what is still considered to be one of the largest Ponzi schemes in American history. Hoffenberg later asserted in court that Epstein had been intimately involved in Tower's shady financial practices and had called Epstein the "architect of the scam." However, by the time Tower Financial had collapsed, Epstein was no longer working for the company. Despite Hoffenberg's testimony and abundant evidence regarding Epstein's role in the scheme, Epstein's name was mysteriously dropped from the case. ..."
"... It is likely that Epstein's conspicuous cultivation and support of prominent scientists was in fact camouflage to help cover his real role as a covert operative specializing in blackmail. Comments by some scientists who attended his soirees indicate that Epstein was scientifically an ignoramus and was unserious in scientific discussions. ..."
"... The Mena story was an open secret in Arkansas. Paul Greenberg (who bestowed the monicker "Slick Willie" upon The Boy Wonder) wrote extensively upon this subject. There have been rumors–never confirmed– that Clinton may have been recruited by Spook Inc. as early as his undergrad days at G-Town (it's still not clear how Clinton, a relatively unknown American college graduate, could gain entry into the USSR in the summer of '69 for a "vacation" at a time when our relations with that country were as low as they ever were). ..."
"... What con man does not claim to be a secret agent? ..."
"... Epstein also claimed to be a blackmailer, He promoted himself as freelance secret agent, acting for governments or malefactors whichever paid most, when he was trying to get a journalist to write a book about him in the eighties. Last year Epstein told a NYT journalist that he had compromising material on top tech magnates (this was probably Elon Musk) ..."
"... There was another interview around the same time in which Epstein "rambled" about the big tech people he knew to business reporters at his mansion. Every reporter who was around him decided he was full of it. ..."
"... Going on like this, Epstein would have been disposed of by his own organisation .. if it actually existed. The Mafia kill people for far less ..."
"... Wexner was one of five key managers of organized crime cash flows in the United States. many members of the so-called Mega Group, which Wexner co-founded, had direct ties to the Lansky crime syndicate. Meyer Lansky was a pioneer of sexual blackmail operations and was deeply connected to both U.S. intelligence and Israel's Mossad. ..."
"... I don't buy a word of this. Too much emphasis on sex trafficking, the meaningless description underage and the so-called victims. For some reason everyone believed the story that Epstein was some kind of pervert. Only children trust the Government when it says sex crime, WMD, ISIS or UFO. ..."
Aug 23, 2019 | www.unz.com

Far from being the work of a single political party, intelligence agency or country, the power structure revealed by the network connected to Epstein is nothing less than a criminal enterprise that is willing to use and abuse children in the pursuit of ever more power, wealth and control.

On August 10th, and for several days after, speculation swirled after it was announced that Jeffrey Epstein had been found dead in his cell. His cause of death has officially been ruled suicide by hanging.

Epstein, the billionaire pedophile and sex trafficker with a myriad of connections to the rich and powerful in the United States and several other countries, had told those close to him that he had feared for his life prior to his sudden "suicide," the Washington Post reported, while his defense lawyers claimed that he had planned to cooperate with federal authorities.

Following the controversial conclusion by the New York Medical Examiner that Epstein's death was a suicide -- a conclusion contested by Epstein's attornies as well as by independent forensic pathologists, given the apparent evidence pointing towards strangulation -- corporate media coverage of the Epstein case has slowed to a trickle, save for sensationalist stories about his alleged co-conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell and new salacious details of his past. Gone from corporate media are any hints of the larger scandal, revolving around the admission that Epstein had "belonged to intelligence."

In this four-part series, " The Jeffrey Epstein Scandal: Too Big to Fail ," MintPress has revealed that Epstein's activities -- a sexual blackmail operation involving minors and connected to intelligence agencies -- was one of many such operations that have taken place for decades, developing from the nexus forged between the CIA, organized crime and Israeli intelligence shortly after World War II.

As Part II of this series revealed, these sexual blackmail operations proliferated during the Iran-Contra affair, which involved this same dark alliance between U.S./Israeli intelligence and organized crime. Though this series has thus far largely focused on the ties of Republican officials to those operations and associated crimes, the final installment of this series will focus on Democratic politicians, namely the Clinton family, and their ties to this same network as well as Jeffrey Epstein.

The Clintons' own involvement in Iran-Contra revolved around the covert activities at Arkansas' Mena Airport, which involved the CIA front company Southern Air Transport and occurred while Clinton was governor. Just a few years into the Clinton presidential administration, Leslie Wexner and Jeffrey Epstein would play a major role in Southern Air Transport's relocation to Columbus, Ohio, leading to concerns among top Ohio officials that both men were not only working with the CIA, but that Wexner's company, The Limited, sought to use the CIA-linked airline for smuggling.

During that same period of time, Epstein had already forged close ties to important Clinton White House officials and prominent Clinton donors like Lynn Forester de Rothschild and made several personal visits to the official presidential residence.

Some of these ties appear related to Epstein's shady financial activities, particularly involving currency markets and offshore tax havens -- activities he began to perfect while working for prominent Iran-Contra figures in the early 1980s, several of whom were tied to the CIA-linked bank Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) and had known relationships with Israeli intelligence, namely the Mossad. The nature of Epstein's work for these individuals and other evidence strongly suggests that Epstein himself had a relationship with BCCI after leaving Bear Stearns and prior to the bank's collapse in 1991.

Of particular importance are Epstein's relationship to the Clinton Foundation and the alleged role of Epstein's Virgin Islands-based hedge fund and the Clinton Foundation in money laundering activity, a relationship still under investigation by MintPress .

It is this tale of intrigue that fully reveals the extent to which this decades-old alliance between organized crime, the CIA, and Israeli intelligence has corrupted and influenced politicians of both political parties, both through the use of sexual blackmail and through other means of coercion.

Far from being the work of a single intelligence agency or a single country, the power structure revealed by this network connected to Epstein is nothing less than a criminal enterprise that transcends nationality and is willing to use and abuse children in the pursuit of ever more power, wealth and control. Existing for decades and willing to use any means necessary to cover its tracks, this criminal racket has become so integrated into the levers of power, in the United States and well beyond, that it is truly too big to fail.

Iran Contra, Mena Airport and the Clintons

When one thinks back to the now-famous Iran-Contra scandal, names like Ronald Reagan, Oliver North and Barry Seal comes to mind, but former President Bill Clinton also played an outsized role in the scandal -- using his home state of Arkansas, where he was then serving as governor, as a sort of rallying point for the CIA's U.S.-side of the Central American operation.

In fact, during Clinton's reign as governor a small town called Mena, nestled in the Ozark Mountains west of Arkansas' capital Little Rock, would be propelled into the national spotlight as a hub for drug and arms smuggling and the training of CIA-backed far-right militias.

Under the close watch of the CIA, then led by William Casey, the Mena Intermountain Regional Airport was used to stockpile and deliver arms and ammunition to the Nicaraguan Contras. The arms were sometimes exchanged for cocaine from South American cartels, which would then be sent back to Mena and used to fund the covert CIA operation.

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Though efforts have been made to dismiss Clinton's role in the scandal, his direct intervention in the Contras' attempts to overthrow the Sandinista government of Nicaragua suggests Clinton had some sort of personal stake in the efforts and was unlikely aloof to the major smuggling operation taking place in his state while he had been governor. In fact, while governor, Clinton split with many other state governments in sending a contingency of the Arkansas National Guard to Honduras to train the Nicaraguan Contras on how to overthrow their Sandinista government. Clinton would also discuss his first-hand knowledge of the operation with now-Trump administration Attorney General William Barr.

Much of this channeling of both weapons and drugs was carried out by notorious drug smuggler and alleged CIA/DEA operative Barry Seal. According to the book Whiteout: the CIA, Drugs and the Press by Alexander Cockburn and Jeffrey St. Clair:

A federal investigation aided by the Arkansas State Police established that Barry Seal, a drug dealer working for the Medellin cartel as well as with the C.I.A. and the D.E.A., had his planes retrofitted at Mena for drug drops, trained pilots there and laundered his profits partly through financial institutions in Arkansas. Seal, at this time was in close contact with [Oliver] North, who acknowledged the relationship in his memoir. These were the years in which North was constructing his covert supply lines for the contras."

Seal was known to use aircraft that belonged to the company Southern Air Transport and he also employed flight crews that worked for that same company. Southern Air Transport, formerly Air America, was once directly owned by the CIA and today is remembered for being a CIA front during Iran-Contra. Less known is the relationship between the CIA-linked airline and Leslie Wexner and his then-close associate Jeffrey Epstein, which will be discussed in detail later in this report.

Seal seemed to always operate with much less than six degrees of separation from Clinton while the latter served as governor. In his 1999 confessional expose, Cross-fire: Witness in the Clinton Investigation , former Arkansas policeman turned personal driver and security guard for Bill Clinton, L.D. Brown, recounts how Clinton encouraged him to seek out a post at the CIA. Clinton allegedly went so far as to edit the essay Brown wrote for this employment application. The essay topic was drug smuggling in Central America. Upon receiving his application, the CIA put Brown in touch with none other than Barry Seal. Seal would later be gunned down in 1986 while serving six-months probation for drug-smuggling charges.

Seal was not the only affiliate of Oliver North running a Contra-connected operation in Arkansas. Terry Reed, who had worked for North since 1983, claimed to have been put in touch with Seal by North and established a base just 10 miles north of Mena -- in Nella, Arkansas -- where "Nicaraguan Contras and other recruits from Latin American were trained in resupply missions, night landings, precision paradrops and similar maneuvers," according to Cockburn and St. Clair. Reed further asserted that drug money was being laundered through Arkansas financial institutions.

After Clinton's half-brother Roger was busted for cocaine smuggling (Clinton would later pardon him while president) the CIA sought to move Contra operations out of Arkansas, hoping to put a damper on the increasingly public and sloppy Arkansas-based operation. According to Terry Reed in his book Compromised: Clinton, Bush and the CIA , co-written with John Cummings, a hushed meeting was held in a bunker at Camp Robinson in North Little Rock, Arkansas. During the meeting, William Barr, who represented himself as the emissary of then-CIA Director Bill Casey told Clinton:

The deal we made was to launder our money through your bond business but what we didn't plan on was you and your n****r here start taking yourselves seriously and purposely shrinking our laundry."

Barr chastised Clinton for his sloppy handling of the delicate operation and his half-brother's very public fall from grace. He would later tell Clinton, according to Reed ,

Bill, you are Mr. Casey's fair-haired boy You and your state have been our greatest asset. Mr. Casey wanted me to pass on to you that unless you fuck up and do something stupid, you're No. 1 on the short list for a shot at the job that you've always wanted. You and guys like you are the fathers of the new government. We are the new covenant."

Attempts to investigate Clinton's role in the Mena operations and more broadly in the Iran-Contra affair were allegedly axed by Clinton's own confidantes, who consistently denied he played a role in the scandal. According to the Wall Street Journal , former IRS investigator William Duncan teamed with Arkansas State Police Investigator Russell Welch in what became a decade-long battle to bring the matter to light. In fact, of the nine separate state and federal probes into the affair, all failed.

Duncan would later say of the investigations, "[They] were interfered with and covered up, and the justice system was subverted," and a 1992 memo from Duncan to high-ranking members of the attorney general's staff notes that Duncan was instructed "to remove all files concerning the Mena investigation from the attorney general's office." The attorney general, serving under George H. W. Bush, at that time was William Barr, who is currently attorney general under Trump.

The Bank of Crooks and Criminals International

Another Clinton connection to the CIA and the Iran-Contra affair runs through the family's connection to Arkansas financier Jackson Stephens and the CIA-linked Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI), which critics nicknamed the "Bank of Crooks and Criminals International." Stephens was among the richest people in Arkansas and was also a major donor and backer of Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton . He also played a key role in the rise of Walmart .

Jackson Stephens and other members of the Stephens family bankrolled Bill Clinton's rise to political prominence , contributing large sums of money to both Clinton's gubernatorial and his later presidential campaigns. In addition, Worthen Bank, which was majority-owned by Stephens, provided Clinton's first presidential campaign a $3.5 million line of credit. In addition, Stephens' many businesses were frequently represented by the Rose Law Firm, where Hillary Clinton was a partner.

A redacted FBI report from 1998 describes Stephens as having "lengthy and continuing ties to the Clinton administration and associates" and also discusses allegations that Stephens has been involved in the "illegal handling of campaign contributions to the Democratic National Party."

BCCI had originally been founded by a group of bankers from Pakistan, though Newsweek later reported that CIA officials appeared to have been involved in the bank's founding and that BCCI founder Agha Hasan Abedi had been encouraged by the CIA to found the bank after "the agency realized that an international bank could provide valuable cover for intelligence operations." CIA documents that later surfaced during congressional hearings on the bank's activities and related scandals stated that BCCI was directly involved in "money laundering, narco-financing, gunrunning and holding large sums of money for terrorist groups."

Evidence in the case against BCCI shows cocaine seized from a warehouse and suitcases full of cash to be laundered. Photo | FLMD District Court

Though BCCI was known for its CIA links, Catherine Austin Fitts -- former Assistant Secretary for Housing–Federal Housing Commissioner at HUD during the George H. W. Bush administration, and investment banker with the firms Hamilton Securities Group and Dillon, Read & Co. -- believes that those links went well beyond the CIA. Fitts -- who was placed on the board of the BCCI subsidiary First American Bank following BCCI's collapse -- told MintPress that, after reading through troves of documents regarding the bank's activities prior to its implosion, it was clear to her that there was "no way" its clandestine activities were carried on without the full knowledge of the Federal Reserve, specifically the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, and the White House.

BCCI also played a key role in the Iran-Contra affair and accounts of the bank were used to send payoffs to individuals linked to the scheme. Adnan Khashoggi, a key figure and intermediary in the scandal, used one BCCI account to move more than $20 million related to illegal arms sales and BCCI created fake documentation, including checks signed by Oliver North, allowing the sale to go forward. The bank later, when its activities subsequently came under congressional scrutiny, claimed it had no records of these transactions.

In addition, BCCI appears to have been involved in the sex trafficking of underage girls, including girls that had not yet reached puberty. According to the report entitled " The BCCI Affair ," by then-U.S. Senators John Kerry (D-MA) and Hank Brown (R-CO), BCCI officials were alleged to have obtained leverage with powerful individuals, including prominent members of the ruling families of the United Arab Emirates (UAE), by providing them with young virgins.

The report (page 70) specifically states :

According to one U.S. investigator with substantial knowledge of BCCI's activities, some BCCI officials have acknowledged that some of the females provided some members of the Al-Nahyan family [one of the ruling families in the UAE] were young girls who had not yet reached puberty, and in certain cases, were physically injured by the experience. The official said that former BCCI officials had told him that BCCI also provided males to homosexual VIPs."

BCCI was largely brought into the United States business community through the efforts of Jackson Stephens and Bert Lance, former budget director for Jimmy Carter, who assisted with BCCI's acquisition of First American Bank. The law firm involved in this effort was Arkansas' Rose Law Firm and it involved several of the firm's lawyers, including Hillary Rodham Clinton, Webster Hubbell and C.J. Giroir. Also involved in the effort was Clark Clifford, former Secretary of Defense under Lyndon B. Johnson, and Kamal Adham, former director general of Saudi intelligence.

One of the men added to the BCCI board after the acquisition of First American Bank was Robert Keith Gray, whom Newsweek described as often having "boasted of his close relationship with the CIA's William Casey; Gray used to say that before taking on a foreign client, he would clear it with Casey." As was discussed in Part II of this series, Gray was also an expert in homosexual blackmail operations for the CIA and was reported to have collaborated with Roy Cohn in those activities. Some of Gray's clients at the powerful PR firm he led, Hill & Knowlton, included BCCI clients and Mossad-linked individuals, such as Adnan Khashoggi and Marc Rich.

While the Rose Law Firm was assisting BCCI's entrance into the American financial system, it also represented the Stephens-owned financial services company, Stephens Inc., as well as the data-processing company Systematics Inc., which Stephens acquired in the late 1960s. According to James Norman in his book The Oil Card: Global Economic Warfare in the 21st Century , Systematics was "a primary vehicle or front company for the National Security Agency in the 1980s and early 1990s to market and implant bugged software in the world's major money-center banks and clearinghouses as part of the Reagan/Bush 'follow the money' effort to break the Soviets."

The late journalist Michael Ruppert asserted that this "bugged software" was none other than the Promis software, which both U.S. and Israeli intelligence had bugged in order to spy on intelligence and which had been marketed in part by Robert Maxwell, father of Jeffrey Epstein's madam, Ghislaine Maxwell. Ruppert cited Systematics as "a primary developer of Promis for financial intelligence use." Promis had originally been leased by Inslaw Inc., a small software company founded by Bill Hamilton, to the Department of Justice -- which later stole it from Inslaw, forcing it to declare bankruptcy.

According to a 1995 document sent on behalf of Inslaw's founders to then-independent Counsel Ken Starr that asked him to review Inslaw's case, Systematics had "covertly implanted [software] into the computers of its bank customers" that allowed "allied intelligence agencies surreptitiously to track and monitor the flow of money through the banking system" and had done so at "the behest of the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) and its partner in Israeli intelligence." Inslaw also stated that the software was used by these same intelligence agencies in the "laundering of money, especially drug profits."

Systematics also had a subsidiary in Israel that, according to a former Israeli intelligence officer, was operated by contractors for the Mossad and sold software to banks and telecommunications companies. According to Richardson's letter, that Israeli subsidiary of Systematics also had a Massachusetts-based front company, which was partially owned by a former U.S. intelligence official.

Two partners in the Rose Law Firm who would later serve in the Clinton administration, Vince Foster and Webster Hubbell, acquired significant financial interests in Systematics through ownership in Alltel, which purchased Systematics in the early 1990s. The Hamiltons also provide considerable evidence that Foster's distress prior to his death in 1993 appears to have been related to concerns about litigation involving Systematics and the on-going litigation over Promis' theft.

BCCI itself was known to employ the Promis software after its theft by the DOJ; and one of its subsidiaries, First American Bank, also " filtered PROMIS money " -- i.e., laundered the money generated from the sale of the stolen Promis software -- according to the late journalist Danny Casolaro.

Casolaro had been investigating an international crime syndicate he termed " the Octopus " at the time of his death in 1991. Casolaro believed that this "Octopus" involved powerful individuals in the private and public sectors as well as the criminal underworld and that they were collectively responsible for some of the biggest scandals of the 1980s, including Iran-Contra, BCCI and the theft of the Promis software.

Casolaro had told friends and family that he was close to concluding his investigation and several people close to him had seen documents involving money transfers involving BCCI and the World Bank to people involved in these scandals, such as Earl Brian and Adnan Khashoggi. Casolaro went to Martinsburg, Virginia to meet with some sources to get the final piece of the puzzle and "bring back the head of the Octopus." Two days after arriving in Martinsburg, Casolaro was found dead in his hotel room and his briefcase full of his research notes and evidence was missing. His death was ruled a suicide.

Crime scene photos show deep lacerations in Casolaro's arms

Many, including Casolaro's family, do not believe that Casolaro committed suicide. A week before his death, Casolaro told his brother he had been receiving death threats and the manner in which he died, deep slashes in his arms, was not consistent with Casolaro's well-known squeamishness around even minor amounts of blood. Speculation only grew following the FBI investigation , given that the FBI lied to Congress, pressured its own agents not to question whether it was a suicide and lost 90 percent of its files related to Casolaro's death -- among other glaring inconsistencies.

In a 1994 letter provided to MintPress by Inslaw Inc., Inslaw lawyer Charles Work told then-Assistant Attorney General John Dwyer that one of Inslaw's confidential sources in government had stated that Casolaro had been injected with a substance that deadened his nerves from the neck down, explaining the apparent lack of struggle and that the substance used had come from the U.S. Army inventory. The person who had arranged Casolaro's final meeting before his death was a U.S. military intelligence officer named Joseph Cuellar.

The same year that Casolaro died, there were several other suspicious deaths involving people directly connected to the Promis scandal or involved in Casolaro's investigation of "the Octopus" -- including Alan Standorf , one of Casolaro's sources; Robert Maxwell , father of Ghislaine Maxwell, Mossad operative, and salesman of the bugged Promis software; and John Tower -- the former Texas senator who assisted Maxwell in selling the bugged Promis software to the Los Alamos laboratories.

Jeffrey Epstein and "The Dirtiest Bank of All"

While the role Arkansas played in Iran-Contra is one aspect of the scandal that is often overlooked, so to is the key role played by Israeli intelligence-linked arms dealers and smugglers who would later be connected to powerful individuals in the Mega Group and Jeffrey Epstein, such as Marc Rich and Adnan Khashoggi.

One of the key players in the Iran-Contra affair was Saudi arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi, uncle of the slain Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi. One lesser known fact about Adnan Khashoggi is that, at the time of his Iran-Contra dealings, he was working for the Israeli Mossad, according to former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky.

Ostrovsky, in his #1 New York Times bestseller " By Way of Deception ," notes that Khashoggi had been recruited by the Mossad years before and that his private jet had been fitted in Israel. In relation to Iran-Contra, Ostrovsky claims that it was a $5 million bridge loan that Khashoggi provided that helped to overcome the lack of trust between Israel and Iran during the initial arms deals in the early 1980s, and thus his participation was critical to the success of the scheme.

According to journalist Vicky Ward , Adnan Khashoggi was a client of Jeffrey Epstein's in the early 1980s, not long after Epstein's departure from Bear Stearns in 1981. The reason Epstein left the bank remains murky. Though some former Bear Stearns employees claim he was fired, others -- including Epstein himself -- claimed that he resigned of his own volition.

Ward suggests that Epstein may have left the bank owing to a Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) investigation into insider trading in a case that involved a tender offer placed by the Seagrams corporation for St. Joe Minerals Corp. Seagrams owner Edgar Bronfman, son of Meyer Lansky associate Samuel Bronfman and member of the Mega Group, had tipped off several investors and bankers of the coming tender offer. Epstein resigned from Bear Stearns the day after the SEC opened the case and later claimed he had left the company as a result of a relatively minor "Reg D" violation and rumors that he had an "illicit affair with a secretary."

Yet, as Ward noted :

The SEC never brought any charges against anyone at Bear Stearns for insider trading in St. Joe, but its questioning seems to indicate that it was skeptical of Epstein's answers. Some sources have wondered why, if he was such a big producer at Bear Stearns, he would have given it up over a mere $2,500 fine."

Regardless of the exact reason for Epstein's sudden departure, it was immediately after he left the bank that "the details [of Epstein's work history] recede into shadow. A few of the handful of current friends who have known him since the early 1980s recall that he used to tell them he was a "bounty hunter," recovering lost or stolen money for the government or for very rich people. He has a license to carry a firearm."

Writing in Salon , a former friend of Epstein's, Jesse Kornbluth, also stated that Epstein had claimed to be a "bounty hunter" for the rich and powerful:

When we met in 1986, Epstein's double identity intrigued me -- he said he didn't just manage money for clients with mega-fortunes, he was also a high-level bounty hunter . Sometimes, he told me, he worked for governments to recover money looted by African dictators. Other times those dictators hired him to help them hide their stolen money ." (emphasis added)

One of Epstein's clients after leaving Bear Stearns, per Ward's sources, was the CIA/Mossad-linked Khashoggi at the very time that Khashoggi was involved in Iran-Contra, an operation involving both U.S. and Israeli intelligence. British journalist Nigel Rosser reported in January 2001 in the Evening Standard that Epstein had claimed that he was also working for the CIA during this same time period.

Since Epstein's arrest, records of Rosser's article have been scrubbed from British newspaper archives, including the Evening Standard 's own. However, MintPress independently confirmed with Bob Fitrakis, whom Rosser had interviewed for the article in question, that the article did allege that Epstein used to claim he worked for the CIA. In addition, other reports from the time period cited excerpts of Rosser's article, including the reference to Epstein's past claims of involvement with the CIA.

Specifically, Rosser's article had included the following passage:

He [Epstein] has a license to carry a concealed weapon, once claimed to have worked for the CIA, although he now denies it – and owns properties all over America. Once he arrived at the London home of a British arms dealer bringing a gift – a New York police-issue pump-action riot gun. 'God knows how he got it into the country,' a friend said."

Though Epstein denied past connections to the CIA at the time Rosser's article was published, it is worth mentioning that Robert Maxwell -- father of Ghislaine Maxwell and long-time Mossad operative -- also vehemently denied his now well-documented links to Israeli intelligence until his death. Furthermore, as will be shown later in this article, Epstein and his only known billionaire "client," Leslie Wexner, would later forge a business relationship with the CIA front company Southern Air Transport and play a major role in the airline's relocation to Columbus, Ohio in the mid-1990s. During that period, two prominent Ohio officials believed that both Epstein and Wexner were working with the CIA, according to Ohio-based journalist Bob Fitrakis.

Past claims and evidence of Epstein's involvement with the CIA, coupled with his time as a "shadowy" financial fixer for double-asset Khashoggi, strongly suggest that, whatever Epstein was doing for Khashoggi during this time, it likely involved BCCI. According to " The BCCI Affair " report, Khashoggi "acted as the middleman for five Iranian arms deals for the United States, financing a number of them through BCCI" and "served as the 'banker' for arms shipments as the undercover scheme developed." The report continued:

Khashoggi and [another Iran-Contra arms dealer Manucher] Ghorbanifer performed a central role for the U.S. government in connection with the Iran-Contra affair in operations that involved the direct participation of CIA personnel [and both Khashoggi and Ghorbanifer] banked at BCCI's offices in Monte Carlo and, for both, BCCI's services were essential as a means of providing short-term credit for sales from the U.S. through Israel to Iran."

Saudi arms deale Adnan Khashoggi arrives at Manhatten Federal Court, New York, April 4, 1990. Photo | AP

This connection is even more likely given the fact that Bear Stearns -- Epstein's previous employer right up until he became a financial fixer for Khashoggi and other powerful people -- also worked directly with BCCI during this period. Indeed, Bear Stearns served as a broker to BCCI, a fact that remained hidden until a lengthy court battle in the U.K. concluded in 2011 and forced the government's "Sandstorm Report" about BCCI's activities to unredact the names of Bear Stearns and other institutions, individuals and countries that had done business with the CIA-linked bank.

Furthermore, there is the additional fact that BCCI trafficked underage girls for sex as a means of obtaining favors from and gaining leverage over powerful individuals, something in which Epstein would later become deeply involved. As was shown in Part II of this series, several individuals who were running either sexual blackmail operations involving minors or child trafficking operations were connected to CIA front companies like BCCI, other organizations connected to the Iran-Contra scandal, and several individuals close to the Reagan White House.

The CIA director at the time, Bill Casey, was a close friend of Roy Cohn, who also ran the sexual blackmail operation involving underage boys out of Manhattan's Plaza Hotel, described in Part I of this series. According to Cohn's long-time secretary Christine Seymour, Casey was one of Cohn's most frequent callers.

Another fact that further suggests that Epstein had connections to BCCI is that Epstein was known to have been close to other arms dealers of the period and BCCI was frequently used specifically for covert arms deals. After the bank's collapse in 1991, an article in Time magazine entitled "BCCI: The Dirtiest Bank of All" noted the following:

[T]he CIA may have used B.C.C.I. as more than an undercover banker: U.S. agents collaborated with the black network in several operations, according to a B.C.C.I. black-network "officer" who is now a secret U.S. government witness. Sources have told investigators that B.C.C.I. worked closely with Israel's spy agencies and other Western intelligence groups as well, especially in arms deals ." (emphasis added)

One of the arms dealers that Epstein apparently knew quite well was the British arms dealer Sir Douglas Leese. Leese was involved in brokering the first of a series of controversial British arms deals that involved Khashoggi , known as the Al Yamamah Deal and allegedly involving bribery of members of the Saudi royal family and top Saudi officials. In addition to Khashoggi, several of those officials and royal family members had deep ties to BCCI.

Later iterations of that arms deal were allegedly brokered with the involvement of Prince Charles of the British royal family, and corruption investigations into Al Yamamah were later shut down by the efforts of Tony Blair as well as Prince Andrew. Leese is said to have spoken of Epstein's "genius" and lack of morals when he introduced him to Steve Hoffenberg of Tower Financial, and soon after that introduction Hoffenberg hired Epstein.

Two years after BCCI's fraud-driven collapse, Tower Financial imploded in 1993 in what is still considered to be one of the largest Ponzi schemes in American history. Hoffenberg later asserted in court that Epstein had been intimately involved in Tower's shady financial practices and had called Epstein the "architect of the scam." However, by the time Tower Financial had collapsed, Epstein was no longer working for the company. Despite Hoffenberg's testimony and abundant evidence regarding Epstein's role in the scheme, Epstein's name was mysteriously dropped from the case.

Given that Epstein allegedly received his "sweetheart deal" in 2008 as a result of having "belonged to intelligence," Epstein's activities in the 1980s and early 1990s suggest that his ability to avoid charges in relation to the Tower Financial Ponzi scheme may have been for similar reasons.

Though Hoffenberg claims that he met Epstein through Leese, Epstein himself claimed that he had met the convicted fraudster through John Mitchell, former attorney general under Richard Nixon.

As was noted in Part II of this series, Mitchell was a "friend" of disgraced Washington lobbyist Craig Spence, according to Spence before his fall from grace. Spence, for much of the 1980s, ran a sexual blackmail operation in D.C. involving underage boys and had taken some of those "call boys" on midnight tours of the White House that he said had been arranged by then-National Security Adviser Donald Gregg. Spence, after his trafficking and exploitation of minors was exposed, died under mysterious circumstances. His death was quickly labeled a suicide, not unlike Jeffrey Epstein's.

With Epstein and Wexner's Help, "Spook Air" Finds a New Home

While the state of Arkansas became a hub for CIA activity during the Reagan years and the Iran-Contra scandal, another state appeared to take its place in the 1990s -- Ohio. Just as Arkansas oligarch Jackson Stephens helped attract the CIA to his home state during Iran-Contra, it was also an Ohio oligarch and his close associate that helped attract the CIA to the Buckeye State. Those men were Leslie Wexner and Jeffrey Epstein, respectively.

In Part III of this series, MintPress detailed Wexner's alleged ties to organized crime and his links to the still unsolved homicide of Columbus, Ohio lawyer Arthur Shapiro. Shapiro, who was representing Wexner's company "The Limited" at the time of his death, was set to testify before a grand jury about tax evasion and his involvement with "questionable tax shelters." Columbus police described the Shapiro murder as "a Mafia 'hit'" and a suppressed police report implicated Wexner and his business associates as being involved in or benefiting from Shapiro's death, and as having links to prominent New York-based crime syndicates.

However, Wexner and The Limited also appear to have had a relationship with the CIA. In 1995, Southern Air Transport (SAT) -- a well-known front company for the CIA -- relocated from Miami, Florida to Columbus, Ohio. First founded in the late 1940s, SAT from 1960 until 1973 was directly owned by the CIA, which sought to use the company as a cover for covert operations. After 1973, the company was placed in private hands, although all of its subsequent owners would have CIA ties, including James Bastian, a former lawyer for the CIA, who owned SAT at the time of its relocation to Ohio.

SAT was intimately involved in the Iran-Contra affair, having been used to funnel weapons and drugs to and from the Nicaraguan Contras under the guise of delivering "humanitarian aid," while also sending American weapons to Israel that were then sold to Iran in violation of the U.S. arms embargo. In 1986 alone, SAT transported from Texas to Israel 90 tons of TOW anti-tank missiles, which were then sold to Iran by Israel and Mossad-linked intermediaries like Saudi arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi.

Even though the airline's CIA links were well known, Leslie Wexner's company, The Limited, sought to coax SAT to relocate its headquarters from Miami, Florida to Columbus, Ohio, a move that was realized in 1995. When Edmund James, president of James and Donohew Development Services, told the Columbus Dispatch in March 1995 that SAT was relocating to Columbus' Rickenbacker airfield, he stated that "Southern Air's new presence at Rickenbacker begins in April with two regularly scheduled 747 cargo flights a week from Hong Kong," citing SAT President William Langton. "By fall, that could increase to four a week. Negotiations are underway for flights out of Rickenbacker to the Far East Much of the Hong Kong-to-Rickenbacker cargo will be for The Limited," Wexner's clothing company. "This is a big story for central Ohio. It's huge, actually," James said at the time.

The day following the press conference, Brian Clancy, working as a cargo analyst with MergeGlobal Inc., told the Journal of Commerce that the reason for SAT's relocation to Ohio was largely the result of the lucrative Hong Kong-to-Columbus route that SAT would run for Wexner's company. Clancy specifically stated that the fact that "[The] Limited Inc., the nation's largest retailer, is based in Columbus undoubtedly contributed in large part to Southern Air's decision."

According to documents obtained by journalist Bob Fitrakis from the Rickenbacker Port Authority, Ohio's government also tried to sweeten the deal to bring SAT to Columbus in order to please powerful Ohio businessmen like Wexner. Orchestrated by Governor George Voinovich's then-Chief of Staff Paul Mifsud, the Rickenbacker Port Authority and the Ohio Department of Development created a package of several financial incentives, funded by Ohio taxpayers, to lure the airline to relocate to Ohio. The Journal of Commerce described the "generous package of incentives from the state of Ohio" as "including a 75 percent credit against its corporate tax liability for the next 10 years, a $5 million low-interest loan, and a $400,000 job-training grant."In 1996, then-SAT spokesman David Sweet had told Fitrakis that the CIA-linked airline had only moved to Columbus because "the deal [put together by the development department] was too good to turn down."

Though SAT had promised Ohio's government that it would create 300 jobs in three years, it quickly laid off numerous workers and failed to construct the maintenance facility it had promised, even though it had already accepted $3.5 million in taxpayer funds for that and other projects. As the company's financial problems mounted, Ohio's government declined to recoup the millions in dollars it loaned the company, even after it was alleged that $32 million in the bank account of Mary Bastian, the wife of SAT's owner and former CIA lawyer James Bastian, were actually company funds . On October 1, 1998, SAT filed for bankruptcy. It was the very same day that the CIA's Inspector General had published a comprehensive report on the airline's illicit involvement in drug trafficking.

Furthermore, Fitrakis noted that in addition to Wexner the other main figures who were key in securing SAT's relocation to Ohio were Alan D. Fiers Jr., a former chief of the CIA Central American Task Force, and retired Air Force Major General Richard Secord, head of air logistics for SAT's covert action in Laos between 1966 and 1968, while the company was still known as Air America. Secord was also the air logistics coordinator in the illegal Contra resupply network for Oliver North during Iran-Contra. Fiers was one of the key individuals involved in Iran-Contra who was later pardoned by George H.W. Bush with the assistance of then-Attorney General Bill Barr. Barr -- currently serving as attorney general in the Trump administration, and top of the chain of DOJ command in the investigation of Epstein's death in prison -- has refused to recuse himself from the investigation into Epstein's network and his recent death.

Despite the involvement of these CIA-linked men, as well as the organized crime-linked Leslie Wexner, the then-president of SAT told the Columbus Dispatch that the airline was "no longer connected to the CIA."

Notably, It was during this same time that Epstein exerted substantial control over Wexner's finances; and, according to Fitrakis and his extensive reporting on Wexner from this period, it was Epstein who orchestrated logistics for Wexner's business operations, including The Limited. As was revealed in the Arthur Shapiro murder file and in ties between SAT and The Limited, much of The Limited's logistics involved figures and companies connected to organized crime and U.S. intelligence. It is also important to note that SAT was well-known for being a CIA front company prior to the efforts of Wexner et al. to bring the airline to Columbus, and that, a few years prior, Epstein himself had previously worked for intelligence-linked figures also involved in Iran-Contra, such as Adnan Khashoggi.

In addition, during this time period, Epstein had already begun to live in the now infamous New York penthouse that had first been purchased by Wexner in 1989. Wexner had apparently installed CCTV and recording equipment in an odd bathroom in the home after his purchase, and never lived in the home, as was noted in Part III of this series.

In an exclusive interview, Bob Fitrakis told MintPress that Epstein and Wexner's involvement with SAT's relocation to Ohio had caused suspicion among some prominent state and local officials that the two were working with U.S. intelligence. Fitrakis specifically stated that then-Ohio Inspector General David Strutz and then-Sheriff of Franklin County Earl Smith had personally told him that they believed that both Epstein and Wexner had ties to the CIA. These claims further corroborate what was first reported by Nigel Rosser in the Evening Standard that Epstein had claimed to have worked for the CIA in the past.

Fitrakis also told MintPress that Strutz had referred to SAT's route between Hong Kong and Columbus on behalf of Wexner's company The Limited as "the Meyer Lansky run," as he believed that Wexner's association with SAT was related to his ties to elements of organized crime that were connected to the Lansky-created National Crime Syndicate. In addition, Catherine Austin Fitts -- the former investment banker and government official, who has extensively investigated the intersection of organized crime, black markets, Wall Street and the government in the U.S. economy -- was told by an ex-CIA employee that Wexner was one of five key managers of organized crime cash flows in the United States.

As this series has noted in previous reports, Meyer Lansky was a pioneer of sexual blackmail operations and was deeply connected to both U.S. intelligence and Israel's Mossad. Furthermore, many members of the so-called Mega Group, which Wexner co-founded, had direct ties to the Lansky crime syndicate.

Marc Rich's Pardon and Israel's "Leverage" over Clinton

Another shadowy figure with connections to the Mega Group, Mossad, U.S. intelligence and organized crime is the "fugitive financier" Marc Rich, whose pardon during the last days of the Clinton White House is both well-known and still mired in controversy years after the fact.

Marc Rich was a commodities trader and hedge fund manager best known for founding the commodity trading and mining giant Glencore and for doing business with numerous dictatorships, often in violation of sanctions. He worked particularly closely with Israel and, according to Haaretz :

In the years after the 1973 Yom Kippur War and the ensuing global Arab oil embargo, a period when nobody wanted to sell oil to Israel, for almost 20 years Rich was the main source of the country's oil and energy needs."

It was that trading on Israel's behalf that would ultimately lead to Rich being charged in 1983 for violating the U.S. oil embargo on Iran by selling Iranian oil to Israel. Rich was also charged with tax evasion, wire fraud, racketeering and several other crimes.

Haaretz also noted that Rich's businesses were "a source of funding for secret financial arrangements" and that "his worldwide offices, according to several reliable sources, frequently served Mossad agents, with his consent." Rich had more direct ties to the Mossad as well. For instance, his foundation -- the Rich Foundation -- was run by the former Mossad agent Avner Azulay. Rich was also friendly with prominent Israel politicians, including former Prime Ministers Menachem Begin and Ehud Barak, and was a frequent provider of "services" for Israeli intelligence, services he freely volunteered.

Marc Rich, right, is pictured with Israel's Shimon Peres in a photo from Mark Daneil Ammann's "The King of Oil."

According to Rich's biographer, Daniel Ammann, Rich also fed information to U.S. intelligence but declined to give specifics. "He did not want to tell with whom he cooperated within the U.S. authorities or which branch of the U.S. government he supplied with intelligence," Ammann said in an interview with the Daily Beast .

One clue as to the nature of Rich's relationship to U.S. intelligence is his apparent ties to BCCI. "The BCCI Affair" report mentions Rich as a person to investigate in relation to the bank and states :

BCCI lending to Rich in the 1980s amounted to tens of millions of dollars. Moreover, Rich's commodities firms were used by BCCI in connection with BCCI's involv[ement] in U.S. guarantee programs through the Department of Agriculture. The nature and extent of Rich's relationship with BCCI requires further investigation."

Rich was also deeply tied to the Mega Group, as he was one of the main donors to the Birthright Israel charity along with Mega Group co-founder Charles Bronfman and Mega Group member Michael Steinhardt. Steinhardt was particularly close to Rich, first meeting the commodities trader in the 1970s and then managing $3 million for Rich, Rich's then-wife Denise, and Rich's father-in-law from the early 1980s to the mid-1990s through his hedge fund. In the late 1990s, Steinhardt would enlist other Mega Group members, such as Edgar Bronfman, in the effort to settle the criminal charges against Rich, which eventually came to pass with Clinton's controversial pardon in 2001. Steinhardt claimed to have come up with the idea of a presidential pardon for Rich in late 2000.

Rich's pardon was controversial for several reasons, and many mainstream outlets asserted that it "reeked of payoff." As the New York Post noted in 2016, in the run-up to the presidential pardon the financier's ex-wife Denise had donated $450,000 to the fledgling Clinton Library and "over $1 million to Democratic campaigns in the Clinton era." In addition, Rich had hired high-powered lawyers with links to powerful individuals in both the Democratic and Republican parties as well as the Clinton White House, including Jack Quinn, who has previously served as general counsel to the Clinton administration and as former chief of staff to Vice President Al Gore.

However, per Clinton's own words and other supporting evidence, the main reason behind the Rich pardon was the heavy lobbying from Israeli intelligence, Israeli politicians and members of the Mega Group like Steinhardt, with the donations from Denise Rich and Quinn's access to the president likely sweetening the deal.

Among the most ardent lobbyists for Rich's pardon were then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, former Prime Minister Shimon Peres, then-Mayor of Jerusalem Ehud Olmert, then-former Foreign Minister Shlomo Ben-Ami and former Director of the Mossad Shabtai Shavit. According to Haaretz , Barak was so adamant that Clinton pardon Marc Rich that he was heard shouting at the president on at least one occasion. Former adviser to Barak, Eldad Yaniv, claimed that Barak had shouted that the pardon was "important Not only from the financial aspect, but also because he helped the Mossad in more than one instance."

The Israel lobbying effort had considerable help from Mega Group member Michael Steinhardt as well as Abe Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), which was at the time heavily funded by Mega Group members, including Ronald Lauder and Edgar Bronfman.

There has been speculation for years that Clinton's decision to pardon Rich may have been the result of "leverage" or blackmail that Israel had acquired on the then-president's activities. As was noted in Part III of this report, the Mossad-linked "Mega" spy scandal broke in 1997, whereby Israeli intelligence had been targeting Clinton's effort to broker a peace agreement between Israel and Palestine and had sought to go to "Mega," likely a reference to the Mega Group, to obtain a sensitive document.

In addition, Israel is known to have acquired phone conversations between Clinton and Monica Lewinsky before their affair was made public. Author Daniel Halper -- relying on on-the-record interviews with former officials and hundreds of pages of documents compiled in the event that Lewinsky took legal action against Clinton -- determined that Benjamin Netanyahu told Clinton that he had obtained recordings of the sexually-tinged phone conversations during the Wye Plantation talks between Israel and Palestine in 1998. Netanyahu attempted to use this information to get Clinton to pardon convicted Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard. Clinton considered pardoning Pollard but decided against it after CIA Director George Tenet threatened to resign if the pardon was given.

Investigative journalist and author Gordon Thomas had made similar claims years prior and asserted that the Mossad had obtained some 30 hours of phone-sex conversations between Lewinsky and Clinton and used them as leverage. In addition, a report in Insight magazine in May 2000 claimed that Israeli intelligence had "penetrated four White House telephone lines and was able to relay real-time conversations on those lines from a remote site outside the White House directly to Israel for listening and recording."

Those phone taps apparently went well beyond the White House, as revealed by a December 2001 investigative report by Carl Cameron for FOX News . According to Cameron's report :

[Israeli telecommunications company Amdocs] helped Bell Atlantic install new telephone lines in the White House in 1997 [and] a senior-level employee of Amdocs had a separate T1 data phone line installed from his base outside of St. Louis that was connected directly to Israel

[I]nvestigators are looking into whether the owner of the T1 line had a 'real time' capacity to intercept phone calls from both the White House and other government offices around Washington, and sustained the line for some time, sources said. Sources familiar with the investigation say FBI agents on the case sought an arrest warrant for the St. Louis employee but [Clinton] Justice Department officials quashed it."

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According to journalist Chris Ketcham :

[Both Amdocs and Verint Inc. (formerly Comverse Infosys)] are based in Israel – having arisen to prominence from that country's cornering of the information technology market – and are heavily funded by the Israeli government, with connections to the Israeli military and Israeli intelligence

The companies' operations, sources suggest, have been infiltrated by freelance spies exploiting encrypted trapdoors in Verint/Amdocs technology and gathering data on Americans for transfer to Israeli intelligence and other willing customers (particularly organized crime)."

Given the extent of phone tapping of the U.S. government by Israeli intelligence-linked companies and Netanyahu's previous use of intercepted phone calls to pressure Clinton to pardon Jonathan Pollard, it is entirely reasonable to speculate that some other trove of intercepted communications could have been used to push Clinton to pardon Rich in the final hours of his presidency.

Also notable is the fact that several figures who heavily lobbied Clinton over the Rich pardon had ties to Epstein, who also had ties to Israeli intelligence and Israeli intelligence-linked tech companies, as discussed in Part III of this series. For example, Ehud Barak, a close friend and business associate of Epstein, and Shimon Peres, who introduced Barak to Epstein, were the major players in convincing Clinton to pardon Marc Rich.

Furthermore, as will be shown in a subsequent section of this report, Jeffrey Epstein had developed ties with the Clinton administration beginning in 1993 and those ties expanded, particularly in 1996, when Epstein's intelligence-linked sexual blackmail operation was underway. Clinton would later fly on Epstein's infamous private jet, nicknamed the "Lolita Express," and Epstein would later donate to the Clinton Foundation and claim to have played a key role in the creation of the Clinton Global Initiative.

In addition to the role of figures close to Epstein in securing Rich's pardon, Epstein himself appeared to share some level of connection with Rich's former business partners. For instance, Felix Posen -- who ran Rich's London operations for years and whom Forbes described as "the architect of Rich's immensely profitable but suddenly very controversial business with the Soviet Union" -- appears in Epstein's book of contacts . In addition, Epstein's offshore structured investment vehicle (SIV), Liquid Funding, has the same attorney and director as several Glencore entities : Alex Erskine of the law firm Appleby.

The significance of that connection, however, is unclear, given that Erskine was connected to a total of 274 offshore entities at the time of the "Paradise Papers" leak in 2014. Catherine Austin Fitts told MintPress that it could suggest that Epstein's Liquid Funding -- 40 percent of which had been owned by Bear Stearns , and which may have received a "secret" bail-out from the Federal Reserve -- is part of the same shadow economy "syndicate" as Glencore.

This possibility merits further investigation, given that Glencore is partially owned by British financier Nathaniel Rothschild, whose father, Jacob Rothschild, is on the board of advisers of Genie Energy, which includes Michael Steinhardt as well as several alleged associates of Epstein, such as Bill Richardson and Larry Summers. In addition, Nathaniel Rothschild's cousin by marriage, Lynn Forester de Rothschild, is a long-time associate of Jeffrey Epstein with considerable ties to the New York City "Roy Cohn machine." Marc Rich had long-standing ties to the Rothschild family, going back to the early 1970s when he began commodity trading at Philipp Brothers.

Lynn Forester de Rothschild's surprising interest in Epstein

After Epstein's arrests first in 2007 and then again last month, numerous media reports emerged detailing the links between Epstein and Clinton, with most asserting that they had met not long after Clinton left office in 2001 and, as recently mentioned, issued the controversial pardon of Marc Rich.

Those reports claimed that the Epstein-Clinton relationship had been facilitated by Epstein's long-time girlfriend and alleged madam Ghislaine Maxwell. However, documents obtained from the Clinton presidential library have revealed that the ties between Epstein and Clinton date back years earlier and were facilitated by powerful individuals who have largely evaded scrutiny in connection with the Epstein case.

One major player who has been largely overlooked in bringing Epstein and the Clintons together is Lynn Forester de Rothschild. Notably, Forester de Rothschild has long been connected to neoconservative Reagan era officials -- the Lewis Rosenstiel/Roy Cohn network described in Parts 1 and 2 of this series, as well as the Mega Group, which was detailed in Part 3 of this series.

Lynn Forester de Rothschild became involved in the world of Democratic Party politics in the late 1970s when she worked on the 1976 campaign of hawkish Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-NY) alongside now-notorious neoconservatives like Elliott Abrams , who would go on to play an important role in the Iran-Contra affair during the Reagan era and later serve in the State Department under Trump. She was also introduced to her second husband, Evelyn de Rothschild, by Henry Kissinger at a Bilderberg conference. Several of the individuals connected to the Mega Group and the Mossad-linked media mogul Robert Maxwell -- including Mark Palmer, Max Fisher and John Lehman -- were one-time aides or advisers to Henry Kissinger.

Before marrying into the Rothschild family in 2000, Lynn had previously been married to Andrew Stein, a major figure in New York Democratic politics, with whom she had two sons. Andrew's brother, James Finkelstein, married Cathy Frank, the granddaughter of Lewis Rosenstiel, the mob-linked businessman who ran a sexual blackmail operation exploiting underage boys, as was discussed in Part 1 of this series. Rosenstiel's protege Roy Cohn was the lawyer for Cathy Frank and James Finkelstein and it was at their behest that Cohn attempted to trick a nearly comatose Rosenstiel to into naming Cohn, Frank and Finkelstein the executors and trustees of his estate, valued at $75 million (more than $334 million in today's dollars).

According to the New Yorker , Lynn Forester de Rothschild requested "financial help" from none other than Jeffrey Epstein in 1993 during her divorce from Andrew Stein.

As far as Forester de Rothschild's ties to the Mega Group go, she is currently on the board of directors of Estee Lauder companies, which was founded and is still owned by the family of Ronald Lauder -- a member of the Mega Group, a former Reagan official, a family friend of Roy Cohn, and the alleged source of Jeffrey Epstein's now-infamous Austrian passport. In addition, Forester de Rothschild also partnered with Matthew Bronfman -- son of Mega Group member Edgar Bronfman and grandson of Samuel Bronfman, who had close ties to Meyer Lansky -- in creating the investment advisory firm Bronfman E.L. Rothschild LP.

It is unclear when Lynn Forester de Rothschild first met Jeffrey Epstein, but she was one of his leading advocates and had the ear of then-President Bill Clinton in the early 1990s, speaking to Clinton specifically about Epstein during her "fifteen seconds of access" with the president and also introducing Epstein to lawyer Alan Dershowitz in 1996.

Living History by Hilary Clinton Book Party Hosted Lynn Forester and Evelyn De Rothschild pose with Bill and Hilary Clinton at the Kensington Palace in London. Photo | Alan Davidson

Forester de Rothschild is a long-time associate of the Clintons and has been a major donor to both Bill and Hillary Clinton since 1992. Their ties were so close that Forester de Rothschild spent the first night of her honeymoon at the Lincoln Bedroom in the White House while Clinton was president. Furthermore, a leaked email between Forester de Rothschild and Hillary Clinton saw Clinton request "penance" from Forester de Rothschild for asking Tony Blair to accompany Clinton on official business while she was secretary of state, preventing Blair from making a planned social visit to Forester de Rothschild's home in Aspen, Colorado. Humbly requesting forgiveness is not something Hillary Clinton is known for, given that her former bodyguard once said she could "make Richard Nixon look like Mahatma Gandhi."

In 1995, Forester de Rothschild, then a member of Clinton's National Information Infrastructure Advisory Council, wrote the following to then-President Clinton:

Dear Mr. President: It was a pleasure to see you recently at Senator Kennedy's house. There was too much to discuss and too little time. Using my fifteen seconds of access to discuss Jeffrey Epstein and currency stabilization, I neglected to talk to you about a topic near and dear to my heart. Namely, affirmative action and the future."

Forester de Rothschild then states that she had been asked to prepare a memo on behalf of George Stephanopoulos, former Clinton communications director and currently a broadcast journalist with ABC News . Stephanopoulos attended a dinner party hosted by Epstein at his now infamous Manhattan townhouse in 2010 after Epstein's release from prison for soliciting sex from a minor.

While it is unknown what Forester de Rothschild discussed with Clinton regarding Epstein and currency stabilization, a potential lead may lie in the links of both Forester de Rothschild and Epstein to Deutsche Bank. Journalist Vicky Ward reported in 2003 that Epstein boasted of "skill at playing the currency markets 'with very large sums of money'" and he appears to have done much of this through his long-standing relationship with Deutsche Bank.

The New York Times reported last month :

[Epstein] appears to have been doing business and trading currencies through Deutsche Bank until just a few months ago, according to two people familiar with his business activities. But as the possibility of federal charges loomed, the bank ended its client relationship with Mr. Epstein. It is not clear what the value of those accounts was at the time they were closed."

In the case of Forester de Rothschild, she served as an advisor to the Deutsche Bank Microfinance Consortium for several years and is currently a board member of the Alfred Herrhausen Society of International Dialogue of Deutsche Bank.

The same year that Forester de Rothschild made the above-noted comments to Bill Clinton about Jeffrey Epstein, Epstein attended another Clinton fundraiser , hosted by Ron Perelman at his personal home, that was very exclusive, as the guest list included only 14 people.

The evolution of the Epstein-Clinton relationship

Even before Forester de Rothschild's 1995 meeting with Clinton, Epstein was already an established Clinton donor. Records obtained by the Daily Beast revealed that Epstein had donated $10,000 to the White House Historical Association and attended a Clinton donor reception alongside Ghislaine Maxwell as early as 1993.

The Daily Beast suggests that Bill Clinton's long-time friend from his college days, A. Paul Prosperi, was the facilitator of that early relationship, as Prosperi had a decades-long relationship with Epstein and even visited Epstein at least 20 times while he was in jail in 2008. Prosperi was intimately involved with the 1993 fundraiser for the White House Historical Association noted above.

The relationship between Epstein and Clinton would continue well after Clinton left office in 2001, a fact well-documented by Bill Clinton's now-infamous flights on Epstein's (recently sold) private jet -- often referred to as the "Lolita Express." Clinton flew on the Lolita Express no less than 26 times in the early 2000s according to flight logs. On some of those flights, Clinton was accompanied by his Secret Service detail but he was unaccompanied on other flights.

Arguably the most infamous flight taken by Clinton on Epstein's jet was a lengthy trip to Africa, where actor Kevin Spacey, who has also been accused of raping minors ; Ghislaine Maxwell; and Ron Burkle, a billionaire friend of Clinton's who has been accused of soliciting the services of "super-high-end call girls," were also present. Clinton specifically requested that Epstein make his jet available for the trip well in advance, with Doug Band as the intermediary. President Donald Trump, also a friend of Epstein, is said to have flown on the plane but appears only once on flight logs.

In addition to flights, an Epstein-run foundation gave $25,000 to the Clinton Foundation according to the 2006 filing tax return of Epstein's former charity, the C.O.U.Q. Foundation. Notably, Epstein's lawyers, Alan Dershowitz among them, claimed in 2007 that Epstein had been "part of the original group that conceived the Clinton Global Initiative, which is described as a project 'bringing together a community of global leaders to devise and implement innovative solutions to some of the world's most pressing challenges.'"

Before the associations between Epstein and the Clinton White House in the early 1990s were made public, Ghislaine Maxwell was thought to have been the bridge between Epstein and the Clinton family because of her close relationship to the family. However, the close relationship between Maxwell and the Clintons appears to have developed in the 2000s, with Politico reporting that it began after Bill Clinton left office. Clinton associate Doug Band was also reportedly friendly to Maxwell, appearing at an exclusive dinner party she hosted at her residence in New York in 2005. Maxwell later became particularly close to Chelsea Clinton, vacationing with Chelsea in 2009 and attending her wedding a year later. Maxwell was also associated with the Clinton Global Initiative at least up until 2013.

Other close Clinton associates and officials in the early 1990s also had notable relationships with Jeffrey Epstein, including Mark Middleton, who was a special assistant to Clinton Chief of Staff Mack McClarty beginning in 1993, and met with Epstein on at least three occasions in the White House during the early Clinton years. In addition, White House social secretary under Clinton, Ann Stock, appears in Epstein's "little black book" as does Doug Band , once referred to by New York Magazine as "Bill Clinton's bag carrier, body man, fixer, and all-purpose gatekeeper." Band also appears several times in the flight logs of Epstein's private jet.

Epstein was also associated with both Bill Richardson, former ambassador to the UN and former secretary of energy under Clinton, and Larry Summers, secretary of the treasury under Clinton. Both Richardson and Summers sit on the advisory board of controversial energy company Genie Energy, alongside CIA director under Clinton, James Woolsey; Roy Cohn associate and media mogul, Rupert Murdoch; Mega Group member Michael Steinhardt; and Lord Jacob Rothschild. Genie Energy is controversial primarily for its exclusive rights to drill in the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights. Bill Richardson also has ties to Lynn Forester de Rothschild as she was on the Secretary of Energy's Advisory Board while Richardson was secretary of energy.

Bill Richardson appears to be among the Clinton era officials closest to Jeffrey Epstein, having personally visited Epstein's New Mexico ranch and been the recipient of Epstein donations of $50,000 to his 2002 and 2006 gubernatorial campaigns. Richardson gave Epstein's donation in 2006 to charity after allegations against Epstein were made public. Richardson was also accused in recently released court documents of engaging in sex with Epstein's underage victims, an allegation that he has denied.

The Jeffrey Epstein scandal: A post-mortem

In 1990, Danny Casolaro began his fateful one-year investigation of "the Octopus," an investigation that played no small role in his untimely death. Shortly after he was found lifeless in a hotel bathtub, Casolaro's friend Lynn Knowles was threatened and told the following : "What Danny Casolaro was investigating is a business Anyone who asks too many questions will end up dead."

Nearly thirty years later, that same "Octopus" and its "business" remains with us and has become ever more wrapped around the levers of power -- particularly in the worlds of government, finance and intelligence.

This MintPress investigative series has endeavored to show the nature of this network and how the world of "the Octopus" is the same world in which Jeffrey Epstein and his predecessors -- Craig Spence, Edwin Wilson and Roy Cohn among them -- operated and profited. It is a world where all that matters is the constant drive to accumulate ever more wealth and ever more power and to keep the racket going at all costs.

While this network has long been able to ensure its success through the use of sexual blackmail, often acquired by the unconscionable exploitation of children, it has also been a driving force behind many other ills that plague our world and it goes far beyond human and child trafficking. Indeed, many of the figures in this same sordid web have played a major role in the illicit drug and weapons trades, the expansion of for-profit prisons, and the endless wars that have claimed an untold number of lives across the world, all the while enriching many of these same individuals.


BannedHipster , says: Website December 23, 2019 at 5:56 am GMT

The Jeffrey Epstein/Ghislaine Maxwell sexual trafficking ring is the "Deep State" itself being revealed.

https://bannedhipster.home.blog/2019/12/23/how-republicans-and-democrats-are-misrepresenting-the-real-deep-state/

This is the MOST important story of our generation, and it is directly related to the 9/11 attacks.

Google "Richard Fuisz" for how the 9/11 attacks and the sexual trafficking of teenage girls are intimately related.

Thank you, Whitney Webb, for your courageous reporting on this issue.

Greg Bacon , says: Website December 23, 2019 at 7:51 am GMT

the network connected to Epstein is nothing less than a criminal enterprise that is willing to use and abuse children in the pursuit of ever more power, wealth and control.

Another aspect of this Mossad honey pot op being run by Epstein is this: How many of those teenage girls, due to being plied by alcohol and drugs so they could perform for dirty old men, how many of them broke down mentally and either committed suicide or were killed off to hide the evidence?

My guess is that there's an underwater burial spot near Epstein's Orgy Island or maybe they're buried under yards and yards of concrete, thanks to Epstein buying and moving that concrete truck to that island.

As for the Rose Law firm in Arkansas, at the same time Hillary was working there, one of her co-workers was Johnathan Pollard, the Israeli spy that did a tremendous amount of damage to our intelligence apparatus, even getting spies killed who he helped expose.

Hillary's Secrets

Most progressives tend to think of the sordid topic of Vince Foster's death as the exclusive domain of the Rush Limbaugh right wing radio circuit. But did you know that Vince Foster, Hillary Clinton, and Jonathan Pollard were all simultaneously partners at Rose Law Firm? Yes, that Jonathan Pollard, the unrepentant spy for Israel, arrested and sentenced to life in 1986 for espionage . Did you know that Vince Foster was under CIA scrutiny for the exact same crime at the time of his "suicide" in 1993?

https://rense.com/general80/hll.htm

Why is it that many of these kind of incidents always involve our friend and special ally, Israel?

Spectacular job of reporting, that the large majority of Americans will never see, as the MSM is too busy serving the needs of the CIA and Israel, and not interested in reporting actual news.

sarz , says: December 23, 2019 at 8:23 am GMT
Whitney, is it more likely that Epstein was killed by the Clintons or Trump? It would be helpful to have a short paragraph giving the thrust of your thinking.
Rebel0007 , says: December 23, 2019 at 10:08 am GMT
What we have not been told yet regarding the Epstein scandal is exactly what political and monetary favors were provided to whom as a result of this sick, sadistic, satanic cult of predators.

The motive must have been for political favors, and not merely sums of cash, would be my guess. Yes, Epstein benefitted from the cash, but if Epstein was acting on behalf of the Mossad, it was apparently for policy control.

So who were the individuals that were threatenning politicians with exposure for not enacting, or for enacting specific policies, and precisely which policies and businesses would be financially rewarded is what has not yet been disclosed and what I think that everyone would like to know.

With Epstein dead, we don't know if we will ever find out. Obviously, many people in the surveillance state know exactly who these individual policy threatenners were, and which policies were demanded and have remained silent on these issues.

Bert , says: December 23, 2019 at 11:57 am GMT
It is likely that Epstein's conspicuous cultivation and support of prominent scientists was in fact camouflage to help cover his real role as a covert operative specializing in blackmail. Comments by some scientists who attended his soirees indicate that Epstein was scientifically an ignoramus and was unserious in scientific discussions.
Alfred , says: December 23, 2019 at 2:01 pm GMT
Around '83, I was living Beaufort Gardens, Knightsbridge. Only a few steps away from the big building occupied by the BCCI at 171-175 Brompton Road. It was purpose-built for the bank. I was without a job. Enjoying myself the way one used to be able to do in one of the smartest areas of London.

My friends and I could not help noticing the smart Mercedes saloons gliding into the underground parking lot of the BCCI every morning. The guys driving seemed to be all Pakistanis. I passed on foot past their imposing building several times every day for almost a year. But I never saw a customer entering into their banking hall. I was bewildered. My finances were non-existent and I envied these bankers. I just could not work out what sort of scam was going on. It was all so obvious to anyone remotely streetwise.

Prester John , says: December 23, 2019 at 2:14 pm GMT
The Mena story was an open secret in Arkansas. Paul Greenberg (who bestowed the monicker "Slick Willie" upon The Boy Wonder) wrote extensively upon this subject. There have been rumors–never confirmed– that Clinton may have been recruited by Spook Inc. as early as his undergrad days at G-Town (it's still not clear how Clinton, a relatively unknown American college graduate, could gain entry into the USSR in the summer of '69 for a "vacation" at a time when our relations with that country were as low as they ever were).
Republic , says: December 23, 2019 at 2:54 pm GMT
@Greg Bacon Pollard did not work in that Little Rock law firm. He was not a lawyer.
Desert Fox , says: December 23, 2019 at 3:06 pm GMT
@Prester John Agree, see the book Compromised, Clinton , Bush and the CIA by Terry Reed can be had on amazon and see his videos on youtube.
Sean , says: December 23, 2019 at 3:36 pm GMT
Netanyahu's son says Barak has a drinking problem.

Epstein used to claim he worked for the CIA

What con man does not claim to be a secret agent?

Gone from corporate media are any hints of the larger scandal, revolving around the admission that Epstein had "belonged to intelligence."

Hearsay, and the person supposed to have said it refused to discuss it, probably because it was a lie intended to explain why he gave Epstein a soft plea deal, and he fears being required to testify about it on oath.

Epstein also claimed to be a blackmailer, He promoted himself as freelance secret agent, acting for governments or malefactors whichever paid most, when he was trying to get a journalist to write a book about him in the eighties. Last year Epstein told a NYT journalist that he had compromising material on top tech magnates (this was probably Elon Musk)

The Day Jeffrey Epstein Told Me He Had Dirt on Powerful People
https://www.nytimes.com › 2019/08/12 › business › jeffrey-epstein-interview
12 Aug 2019 – I went to Mr. Epstein's Manhattan mansion to talk about Tesla. 16, 2018, I visited Jeffrey Epstein at his cavernous Manhattan mansion. . .

There was another interview around the same time in which Epstein "rambled" about the big tech people he knew to business reporters at his mansion. Every reporter who was around him decided he was full of it.

Going on like this, Epstein would have been disposed of by his own organisation .. if it actually existed. The Mafia kill people for far less

Far from being the work of a single intelligence agency or a single country, the power structure revealed by this network connected to Epstein is nothing less than a criminal enterprise that transcends nationality and is willing to use and abuse children in the pursuit of ever more power, wealth and control. Existing for decades and willing to use any means necessary to cover its tracks

How brave of you to write about it.

annamaria , says: December 23, 2019 at 3:57 pm GMT
@BannedHipster The "deciders" of the US foreign and internal politics:

Wexner was one of five key managers of organized crime cash flows in the United States. many members of the so-called Mega Group, which Wexner co-founded, had direct ties to the Lansky crime syndicate. Meyer Lansky was a pioneer of sexual blackmail operations and was deeply connected to both U.S. intelligence and Israel's Mossad.

Criminal, ignorant, deviant. The face of the US highest echelons of power.

anonymous [922] Disclaimer , says: December 23, 2019 at 4:24 pm GMT
The tawdry sleaziness of both Clintons has been apparent for many years to anyone who would spend ten minutes to check. Yet the media have glossed over all that and promoted Hilary for president. She has millions of fans and has been relentlessly promoted as the second coming, making one wonder as to how stupid are Americans anyway? There's a connection between mafia-like criminality, intelligence services and the supposed legitimate aboveground government. There's plenty of money to be had for all playing the game with the bulk of the American people being the cash cow that can be milked.

They'll never give up living like kings and queens; anybody threatening that gets suicided or otherwise dies young. They'll take us all to the brink of Armageddon with other countries rather than lose their positions. Some commenters have theorized Epstein is alive and living incognito elsewhere. This is doubtful.

It's like the mafia: when someone becomes a liability he's got to go. They're not going to take any chances. Epstein became the weak link and so had to be shut up permanently.

Hugh Guccione , says: December 23, 2019 at 8:11 pm GMT
I don't buy a word of this. Too much emphasis on sex trafficking, the meaningless description underage and the so-called victims. For some reason everyone believed the story that Epstein was some kind of pervert. Only children trust the Government when it says sex crime, WMD, ISIS or UFO.

Christians burned people at the stake. I suppose lots of children in the USA would support the Government if they decided to start burning people at the stake for sex. Think of the children!

[Dec 23, 2019] With Epstein and Wexner's Help, "Spook Air" Finds a New Home

Dec 23, 2019 | www.unz.com

While the state of Arkansas became a hub for CIA activity during the Reagan years and the Iran-Contra scandal, another state appeared to take its place in the 1990s -- Ohio. Just as Arkansas oligarch Jackson Stephens helped attract the CIA to his home state during Iran-Contra, it was also an Ohio oligarch and his close associate that helped attract the CIA to the Buckeye State. Those men were Leslie Wexner and Jeffrey Epstein, respectively.

In Part III of this series, MintPress detailed Wexner's alleged ties to organized crime and his links to the still unsolved homicide of Columbus, Ohio lawyer Arthur Shapiro. Shapiro, who was representing Wexner's company "The Limited" at the time of his death, was set to testify before a grand jury about tax evasion and his involvement with "questionable tax shelters." Columbus police described the Shapiro murder as "a Mafia 'hit'" and a suppressed police report implicated Wexner and his business associates as being involved in or benefiting from Shapiro's death, and as having links to prominent New York-based crime syndicates.

However, Wexner and The Limited also appear to have had a relationship with the CIA. In 1995, Southern Air Transport (SAT) -- a well-known front company for the CIA -- relocated from Miami, Florida to Columbus, Ohio. First founded in the late 1940s, SAT from 1960 until 1973 was directly owned by the CIA, which sought to use the company as a cover for covert operations. After 1973, the company was placed in private hands, although all of its subsequent owners would have CIA ties, including James Bastian, a former lawyer for the CIA, who owned SAT at the time of its relocation to Ohio.

SAT was intimately involved in the Iran-Contra affair, having been used to funnel weapons and drugs to and from the Nicaraguan Contras under the guise of delivering "humanitarian aid," while also sending American weapons to Israel that were then sold to Iran in violation of the U.S. arms embargo. In 1986 alone, SAT transported from Texas to Israel 90 tons of TOW anti-tank missiles, which were then sold to Iran by Israel and Mossad-linked intermediaries like Saudi arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi.

Even though the airline's CIA links were well known, Leslie Wexner's company, The Limited, sought to coax SAT to relocate its headquarters from Miami, Florida to Columbus, Ohio, a move that was realized in 1995. When Edmund James, president of James and Donohew Development Services, told the Columbus Dispatch in March 1995 that SAT was relocating to Columbus' Rickenbacker airfield, he stated that "Southern Air's new presence at Rickenbacker begins in April with two regularly scheduled 747 cargo flights a week from Hong Kong," citing SAT President William Langton. "By fall, that could increase to four a week. Negotiations are underway for flights out of Rickenbacker to the Far East Much of the Hong Kong-to-Rickenbacker cargo will be for The Limited," Wexner's clothing company. "This is a big story for central Ohio. It's huge, actually," James said at the time.

The day following the press conference, Brian Clancy, working as a cargo analyst with MergeGlobal Inc., told the Journal of Commerce that the reason for SAT's relocation to Ohio was largely the result of the lucrative Hong Kong-to-Columbus route that SAT would run for Wexner's company. Clancy specifically stated that the fact that "[The] Limited Inc., the nation's largest retailer, is based in Columbus undoubtedly contributed in large part to Southern Air's decision."

According to documents obtained by journalist Bob Fitrakis from the Rickenbacker Port Authority, Ohio's government also tried to sweeten the deal to bring SAT to Columbus in order to please powerful Ohio businessmen like Wexner. Orchestrated by Governor George Voinovich's then-Chief of Staff Paul Mifsud, the Rickenbacker Port Authority and the Ohio Department of Development created a package of several financial incentives, funded by Ohio taxpayers, to lure the airline to relocate to Ohio. The Journal of Commerce described the "generous package of incentives from the state of Ohio" as "including a 75 percent credit against its corporate tax liability for the next 10 years, a $5 million low-interest loan, and a $400,000 job-training grant."In 1996, then-SAT spokesman David Sweet had told Fitrakis that the CIA-linked airline had only moved to Columbus because "the deal [put together by the development department] was too good to turn down."

Though SAT had promised Ohio's government that it would create 300 jobs in three years, it quickly laid off numerous workers and failed to construct the maintenance facility it had promised, even though it had already accepted $3.5 million in taxpayer funds for that and other projects. As the company's financial problems mounted, Ohio's government declined to recoup the millions in dollars it loaned the company, even after it was alleged that $32 million in the bank account of Mary Bastian, the wife of SAT's owner and former CIA lawyer James Bastian, were actually company funds . On October 1, 1998, SAT filed for bankruptcy. It was the very same day that the CIA's Inspector General had published a comprehensive report on the airline's illicit involvement in drug trafficking.

Furthermore, Fitrakis noted that in addition to Wexner the other main figures who were key in securing SAT's relocation to Ohio were Alan D. Fiers Jr., a former chief of the CIA Central American Task Force, and retired Air Force Major General Richard Secord, head of air logistics for SAT's covert action in Laos between 1966 and 1968, while the company was still known as Air America. Secord was also the air logistics coordinator in the illegal Contra resupply network for Oliver North during Iran-Contra. Fiers was one of the key individuals involved in Iran-Contra who was later pardoned by George H.W. Bush with the assistance of then-Attorney General Bill Barr. Barr -- currently serving as attorney general in the Trump administration, and top of the chain of DOJ command in the investigation of Epstein's death in prison -- has refused to recuse himself from the investigation into Epstein's network and his recent death.

Despite the involvement of these CIA-linked men, as well as the organized crime-linked Leslie Wexner, the then-president of SAT told the Columbus Dispatch that the airline was "no longer connected to the CIA."

Notably, It was during this same time that Epstein exerted substantial control over Wexner's finances; and, according to Fitrakis and his extensive reporting on Wexner from this period, it was Epstein who orchestrated logistics for Wexner's business operations, including The Limited. As was revealed in the Arthur Shapiro murder file and in ties between SAT and The Limited, much of The Limited's logistics involved figures and companies connected to organized crime and U.S. intelligence. It is also important to note that SAT was well-known for being a CIA front company prior to the efforts of Wexner et al. to bring the airline to Columbus, and that, a few years prior, Epstein himself had previously worked for intelligence-linked figures also involved in Iran-Contra, such as Adnan Khashoggi.

In addition, during this time period, Epstein had already begun to live in the now infamous New York penthouse that had first been purchased by Wexner in 1989. Wexner had apparently installed CCTV and recording equipment in an odd bathroom in the home after his purchase, and never lived in the home, as was noted in Part III of this series.

In an exclusive interview, Bob Fitrakis told MintPress that Epstein and Wexner's involvement with SAT's relocation to Ohio had caused suspicion among some prominent state and local officials that the two were working with U.S. intelligence. Fitrakis specifically stated that then-Ohio Inspector General David Strutz and then-Sheriff of Franklin County Earl Smith had personally told him that they believed that both Epstein and Wexner had ties to the CIA. These claims further corroborate what was first reported by Nigel Rosser in the Evening Standard that Epstein had claimed to have worked for the CIA in the past.

Fitrakis also told MintPress that Strutz had referred to SAT's route between Hong Kong and Columbus on behalf of Wexner's company The Limited as "the Meyer Lansky run," as he believed that Wexner's association with SAT was related to his ties to elements of organized crime that were connected to the Lansky-created National Crime Syndicate. In addition, Catherine Austin Fitts -- the former investment banker and government official, who has extensively investigated the intersection of organized crime, black markets, Wall Street and the government in the U.S. economy -- was told by an ex-CIA employee that Wexner was one of five key managers of organized crime cash flows in the United States.

As this series has noted in previous reports, Meyer Lansky was a pioneer of sexual blackmail operations and was deeply connected to both U.S. intelligence and Israel's Mossad. Furthermore, many members of the so-called Mega Group, which Wexner co-founded, had direct ties to the Lansky crime syndicate.

Marc Rich's Pardon and Israel's "Leverage" over Clinton

Another shadowy figure with connections to the Mega Group, Mossad, U.S. intelligence and organized crime is the "fugitive financier" Marc Rich, whose pardon during the last days of the Clinton White House is both well-known and still mired in controversy years after the fact.

Marc Rich was a commodities trader and hedge fund manager best known for founding the commodity trading and mining giant Glencore and for doing business with numerous dictatorships, often in violation of sanctions. He worked particularly closely with Israel and, according to Haaretz :

In the years after the 1973 Yom Kippur War and the ensuing global Arab oil embargo, a period when nobody wanted to sell oil to Israel, for almost 20 years Rich was the main source of the country's oil and energy needs."

It was that trading on Israel's behalf that would ultimately lead to Rich being charged in 1983 for violating the U.S. oil embargo on Iran by selling Iranian oil to Israel. Rich was also charged with tax evasion, wire fraud, racketeering and several other crimes.

Haaretz also noted that Rich's businesses were "a source of funding for secret financial arrangements" and that "his worldwide offices, according to several reliable sources, frequently served Mossad agents, with his consent." Rich had more direct ties to the Mossad as well. For instance, his foundation -- the Rich Foundation -- was run by the former Mossad agent Avner Azulay. Rich was also friendly with prominent Israel politicians, including former Prime Ministers Menachem Begin and Ehud Barak, and was a frequent provider of "services" for Israeli intelligence, services he freely volunteered.

Marc Rich, right, is pictured with Israel's Shimon Peres in a photo from Mark Daneil Ammann's "The King of Oil."

According to Rich's biographer, Daniel Ammann, Rich also fed information to U.S. intelligence but declined to give specifics. "He did not want to tell with whom he cooperated within the U.S. authorities or which branch of the U.S. government he supplied with intelligence," Ammann said in an interview with the Daily Beast .

One clue as to the nature of Rich's relationship to U.S. intelligence is his apparent ties to BCCI. "The BCCI Affair" report mentions Rich as a person to investigate in relation to the bank and states :

BCCI lending to Rich in the 1980s amounted to tens of millions of dollars. Moreover, Rich's commodities firms were used by BCCI in connection with BCCI's involv[ement] in U.S. guarantee programs through the Department of Agriculture. The nature and extent of Rich's relationship with BCCI requires further investigation."

Rich was also deeply tied to the Mega Group, as he was one of the main donors to the Birthright Israel charity along with Mega Group co-founder Charles Bronfman and Mega Group member Michael Steinhardt. Steinhardt was particularly close to Rich, first meeting the commodities trader in the 1970s and then managing $3 million for Rich, Rich's then-wife Denise, and Rich's father-in-law from the early 1980s to the mid-1990s through his hedge fund. In the late 1990s, Steinhardt would enlist other Mega Group members, such as Edgar Bronfman, in the effort to settle the criminal charges against Rich, which eventually came to pass with Clinton's controversial pardon in 2001. Steinhardt claimed to have come up with the idea of a presidential pardon for Rich in late 2000.

Rich's pardon was controversial for several reasons, and many mainstream outlets asserted that it "reeked of payoff." As the New York Post noted in 2016, in the run-up to the presidential pardon the financier's ex-wife Denise had donated $450,000 to the fledgling Clinton Library and "over $1 million to Democratic campaigns in the Clinton era." In addition, Rich had hired high-powered lawyers with links to powerful individuals in both the Democratic and Republican parties as well as the Clinton White House, including Jack Quinn, who has previously served as general counsel to the Clinton administration and as former chief of staff to Vice President Al Gore.

However, per Clinton's own words and other supporting evidence, the main reason behind the Rich pardon was the heavy lobbying from Israeli intelligence, Israeli politicians and members of the Mega Group like Steinhardt, with the donations from Denise Rich and Quinn's access to the president likely sweetening the deal.

Among the most ardent lobbyists for Rich's pardon were then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, former Prime Minister Shimon Peres, then-Mayor of Jerusalem Ehud Olmert, then-former Foreign Minister Shlomo Ben-Ami and former Director of the Mossad Shabtai Shavit. According to Haaretz , Barak was so adamant that Clinton pardon Marc Rich that he was heard shouting at the president on at least one occasion. Former adviser to Barak, Eldad Yaniv, claimed that Barak had shouted that the pardon was "important Not only from the financial aspect, but also because he helped the Mossad in more than one instance."

The Israel lobbying effort had considerable help from Mega Group member Michael Steinhardt as well as Abe Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), which was at the time heavily funded by Mega Group members, including Ronald Lauder and Edgar Bronfman.

There has been speculation for years that Clinton's decision to pardon Rich may have been the result of "leverage" or blackmail that Israel had acquired on the then-president's activities. As was noted in Part III of this report, the Mossad-linked "Mega" spy scandal broke in 1997, whereby Israeli intelligence had been targeting Clinton's effort to broker a peace agreement between Israel and Palestine and had sought to go to "Mega," likely a reference to the Mega Group, to obtain a sensitive document.

In addition, Israel is known to have acquired phone conversations between Clinton and Monica Lewinsky before their affair was made public. Author Daniel Halper -- relying on on-the-record interviews with former officials and hundreds of pages of documents compiled in the event that Lewinsky took legal action against Clinton -- determined that Benjamin Netanyahu told Clinton that he had obtained recordings of the sexually-tinged phone conversations during the Wye Plantation talks between Israel and Palestine in 1998. Netanyahu attempted to use this information to get Clinton to pardon convicted Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard. Clinton considered pardoning Pollard but decided against it after CIA Director George Tenet threatened to resign if the pardon was given.

Investigative journalist and author Gordon Thomas had made similar claims years prior and asserted that the Mossad had obtained some 30 hours of phone-sex conversations between Lewinsky and Clinton and used them as leverage. In addition, a report in Insight magazine in May 2000 claimed that Israeli intelligence had "penetrated four White House telephone lines and was able to relay real-time conversations on those lines from a remote site outside the White House directly to Israel for listening and recording."

Those phone taps apparently went well beyond the White House, as revealed by a December 2001 investigative report by Carl Cameron for FOX News . According to Cameron's report :

[Israeli telecommunications company Amdocs] helped Bell Atlantic install new telephone lines in the White House in 1997 [and] a senior-level employee of Amdocs had a separate T1 data phone line installed from his base outside of St. Louis that was connected directly to Israel

[I]nvestigators are looking into whether the owner of the T1 line had a 'real time' capacity to intercept phone calls from both the White House and other government offices around Washington, and sustained the line for some time, sources said. Sources familiar with the investigation say FBI agents on the case sought an arrest warrant for the St. Louis employee but [Clinton] Justice Department officials quashed it."

https://content.jwplatform.com/players/yLU5qcWT-YuKiCfZc.html

According to journalist Chris Ketcham :

[Both Amdocs and Verint Inc. (formerly Comverse Infosys)] are based in Israel -- having arisen to prominence from that country's cornering of the information technology market -- and are heavily funded by the Israeli government, with connections to the Israeli military and Israeli intelligence

The companies' operations, sources suggest, have been infiltrated by freelance spies exploiting encrypted trapdoors in Verint/Amdocs technology and gathering data on Americans for transfer to Israeli intelligence and other willing customers (particularly organized crime)."

Given the extent of phone tapping of the U.S. government by Israeli intelligence-linked companies and Netanyahu's previous use of intercepted phone calls to pressure Clinton to pardon Jonathan Pollard, it is entirely reasonable to speculate that some other trove of intercepted communications could have been used to push Clinton to pardon Rich in the final hours of his presidency.

Also notable is the fact that several figures who heavily lobbied Clinton over the Rich pardon had ties to Epstein, who also had ties to Israeli intelligence and Israeli intelligence-linked tech companies, as discussed in Part III of this series. For example, Ehud Barak, a close friend and business associate of Epstein, and Shimon Peres, who introduced Barak to Epstein, were the major players in convincing Clinton to pardon Marc Rich.

Furthermore, as will be shown in a subsequent section of this report, Jeffrey Epstein had developed ties with the Clinton administration beginning in 1993 and those ties expanded, particularly in 1996, when Epstein's intelligence-linked sexual blackmail operation was underway. Clinton would later fly on Epstein's infamous private jet, nicknamed the "Lolita Express," and Epstein would later donate to the Clinton Foundation and claim to have played a key role in the creation of the Clinton Global Initiative.

In addition to the role of figures close to Epstein in securing Rich's pardon, Epstein himself appeared to share some level of connection with Rich's former business partners. For instance, Felix Posen -- who ran Rich's London operations for years and whom Forbes described as "the architect of Rich's immensely profitable but suddenly very controversial business with the Soviet Union" -- appears in Epstein's book of contacts . In addition, Epstein's offshore structured investment vehicle (SIV), Liquid Funding, has the same attorney and director as several Glencore entities : Alex Erskine of the law firm Appleby.

The significance of that connection, however, is unclear, given that Erskine was connected to a total of 274 offshore entities at the time of the "Paradise Papers" leak in 2014. Catherine Austin Fitts told MintPress that it could suggest that Epstein's Liquid Funding -- 40 percent of which had been owned by Bear Stearns , and which may have received a "secret" bail-out from the Federal Reserve -- is part of the same shadow economy "syndicate" as Glencore.

This possibility merits further investigation, given that Glencore is partially owned by British financier Nathaniel Rothschild, whose father, Jacob Rothschild, is on the board of advisers of Genie Energy, which includes Michael Steinhardt as well as several alleged associates of Epstein, such as Bill Richardson and Larry Summers. In addition, Nathaniel Rothschild's cousin by marriage, Lynn Forester de Rothschild, is a long-time associate of Jeffrey Epstein with considerable ties to the New York City "Roy Cohn machine." Marc Rich had long-standing ties to the Rothschild family, going back to the early 1970s when he began commodity trading at Philipp Brothers.

Lynn Forester de Rothschild's surprising interest in Epstein

After Epstein's arrests first in 2007 and then again last month, numerous media reports emerged detailing the links between Epstein and Clinton, with most asserting that they had met not long after Clinton left office in 2001 and, as recently mentioned, issued the controversial pardon of Marc Rich.

Those reports claimed that the Epstein-Clinton relationship had been facilitated by Epstein's long-time girlfriend and alleged madam Ghislaine Maxwell. However, documents obtained from the Clinton presidential library have revealed that the ties between Epstein and Clinton date back years earlier and were facilitated by powerful individuals who have largely evaded scrutiny in connection with the Epstein case.

One major player who has been largely overlooked in bringing Epstein and the Clintons together is Lynn Forester de Rothschild. Notably, Forester de Rothschild has long been connected to neoconservative Reagan era officials -- the Lewis Rosenstiel/Roy Cohn network described in Parts 1 and 2 of this series, as well as the Mega Group, which was detailed in Part 3 of this series.

Lynn Forester de Rothschild became involved in the world of Democratic Party politics in the late 1970s when she worked on the 1976 campaign of hawkish Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-NY) alongside now-notorious neoconservatives like Elliott Abrams , who would go on to play an important role in the Iran-Contra affair during the Reagan era and later serve in the State Department under Trump. She was also introduced to her second husband, Evelyn de Rothschild, by Henry Kissinger at a Bilderberg conference. Several of the individuals connected to the Mega Group and the Mossad-linked media mogul Robert Maxwell -- including Mark Palmer, Max Fisher and John Lehman -- were one-time aides or advisers to Henry Kissinger.

Before marrying into the Rothschild family in 2000, Lynn had previously been married to Andrew Stein, a major figure in New York Democratic politics, with whom she had two sons. Andrew's brother, James Finkelstein, married Cathy Frank, the granddaughter of Lewis Rosenstiel, the mob-linked businessman who ran a sexual blackmail operation exploiting underage boys, as was discussed in Part 1 of this series. Rosenstiel's protege Roy Cohn was the lawyer for Cathy Frank and James Finkelstein and it was at their behest that Cohn attempted to trick a nearly comatose Rosenstiel to into naming Cohn, Frank and Finkelstein the executors and trustees of his estate, valued at $75 million (more than $334 million in today's dollars).

According to the New Yorker , Lynn Forester de Rothschild requested "financial help" from none other than Jeffrey Epstein in 1993 during her divorce from Andrew Stein.

As far as Forester de Rothschild's ties to the Mega Group go, she is currently on the board of directors of Estee Lauder companies, which was founded and is still owned by the family of Ronald Lauder -- a member of the Mega Group, a former Reagan official, a family friend of Roy Cohn, and the alleged source of Jeffrey Epstein's now-infamous Austrian passport. In addition, Forester de Rothschild also partnered with Matthew Bronfman -- son of Mega Group member Edgar Bronfman and grandson of Samuel Bronfman, who had close ties to Meyer Lansky -- in creating the investment advisory firm Bronfman E.L. Rothschild LP.

It is unclear when Lynn Forester de Rothschild first met Jeffrey Epstein, but she was one of his leading advocates and had the ear of then-President Bill Clinton in the early 1990s, speaking to Clinton specifically about Epstein during her "fifteen seconds of access" with the president and also introducing Epstein to lawyer Alan Dershowitz in 1996.

Living History by Hilary Clinton Book Party Hosted Lynn Forester and Evelyn De Rothschild pose with Bill and Hilary Clinton at the Kensington Palace in London. Photo | Alan Davidson

Forester de Rothschild is a long-time associate of the Clintons and has been a major donor to both Bill and Hillary Clinton since 1992. Their ties were so close that Forester de Rothschild spent the first night of her honeymoon at the Lincoln Bedroom in the White House while Clinton was president. Furthermore, a leaked email between Forester de Rothschild and Hillary Clinton saw Clinton request "penance" from Forester de Rothschild for asking Tony Blair to accompany Clinton on official business while she was secretary of state, preventing Blair from making a planned social visit to Forester de Rothschild's home in Aspen, Colorado. Humbly requesting forgiveness is not something Hillary Clinton is known for, given that her former bodyguard once said she could "make Richard Nixon look like Mahatma Gandhi."

In 1995, Forester de Rothschild, then a member of Clinton's National Information Infrastructure Advisory Council, wrote the following to then-President Clinton:

Dear Mr. President: It was a pleasure to see you recently at Senator Kennedy's house. There was too much to discuss and too little time. Using my fifteen seconds of access to discuss Jeffrey Epstein and currency stabilization, I neglected to talk to you about a topic near and dear to my heart. Namely, affirmative action and the future."

Forester de Rothschild then states that she had been asked to prepare a memo on behalf of George Stephanopoulos, former Clinton communications director and currently a broadcast journalist with ABC News . Stephanopoulos attended a dinner party hosted by Epstein at his now infamous Manhattan townhouse in 2010 after Epstein's release from prison for soliciting sex from a minor.

While it is unknown what Forester de Rothschild discussed with Clinton regarding Epstein and currency stabilization, a potential lead may lie in the links of both Forester de Rothschild and Epstein to Deutsche Bank. Journalist Vicky Ward reported in 2003 that Epstein boasted of "skill at playing the currency markets 'with very large sums of money'" and he appears to have done much of this through his long-standing relationship with Deutsche Bank.

The New York Times reported last month :

[Epstein] appears to have been doing business and trading currencies through Deutsche Bank until just a few months ago, according to two people familiar with his business activities. But as the possibility of federal charges loomed, the bank ended its client relationship with Mr. Epstein. It is not clear what the value of those accounts was at the time they were closed."

In the case of Forester de Rothschild, she served as an advisor to the Deutsche Bank Microfinance Consortium for several years and is currently a board member of the Alfred Herrhausen Society of International Dialogue of Deutsche Bank.

The same year that Forester de Rothschild made the above-noted comments to Bill Clinton about Jeffrey Epstein, Epstein attended another Clinton fundraiser , hosted by Ron Perelman at his personal home, that was very exclusive, as the guest list included only 14 people.

The evolution of the Epstein-Clinton relationship

Even before Forester de Rothschild's 1995 meeting with Clinton, Epstein was already an established Clinton donor. Records obtained by the Daily Beast revealed that Epstein had donated $10,000 to the White House Historical Association and attended a Clinton donor reception alongside Ghislaine Maxwell as early as 1993.

The Daily Beast suggests that Bill Clinton's long-time friend from his college days, A. Paul Prosperi, was the facilitator of that early relationship, as Prosperi had a decades-long relationship with Epstein and even visited Epstein at least 20 times while he was in jail in 2008. Prosperi was intimately involved with the 1993 fundraiser for the White House Historical Association noted above.

The relationship between Epstein and Clinton would continue well after Clinton left office in 2001, a fact well-documented by Bill Clinton's now-infamous flights on Epstein's (recently sold) private jet -- often referred to as the "Lolita Express." Clinton flew on the Lolita Express no less than 26 times in the early 2000s according to flight logs. On some of those flights, Clinton was accompanied by his Secret Service detail but he was unaccompanied on other flights.

Arguably the most infamous flight taken by Clinton on Epstein's jet was a lengthy trip to Africa, where actor Kevin Spacey, who has also been accused of raping minors ; Ghislaine Maxwell; and Ron Burkle, a billionaire friend of Clinton's who has been accused of soliciting the services of "super-high-end call girls," were also present. Clinton specifically requested that Epstein make his jet available for the trip well in advance, with Doug Band as the intermediary. President Donald Trump, also a friend of Epstein, is said to have flown on the plane but appears only once on flight logs.

In addition to flights, an Epstein-run foundation gave $25,000 to the Clinton Foundation according to the 2006 filing tax return of Epstein's former charity, the C.O.U.Q. Foundation. Notably, Epstein's lawyers, Alan Dershowitz among them, claimed in 2007 that Epstein had been "part of the original group that conceived the Clinton Global Initiative, which is described as a project 'bringing together a community of global leaders to devise and implement innovative solutions to some of the world's most pressing challenges.'"

Before the associations between Epstein and the Clinton White House in the early 1990s were made public, Ghislaine Maxwell was thought to have been the bridge between Epstein and the Clinton family because of her close relationship to the family. However, the close relationship between Maxwell and the Clintons appears to have developed in the 2000s, with Politico reporting that it began after Bill Clinton left office. Clinton associate Doug Band was also reportedly friendly to Maxwell, appearing at an exclusive dinner party she hosted at her residence in New York in 2005. Maxwell later became particularly close to Chelsea Clinton, vacationing with Chelsea in 2009 and attending her wedding a year later. Maxwell was also associated with the Clinton Global Initiative at least up until 2013.

Other close Clinton associates and officials in the early 1990s also had notable relationships with Jeffrey Epstein, including Mark Middleton, who was a special assistant to Clinton Chief of Staff Mack McClarty beginning in 1993, and met with Epstein on at least three occasions in the White House during the early Clinton years. In addition, White House social secretary under Clinton, Ann Stock, appears in Epstein's "little black book" as does Doug Band , once referred to by New York Magazine as "Bill Clinton's bag carrier, body man, fixer, and all-purpose gatekeeper." Band also appears several times in the flight logs of Epstein's private jet.

Epstein was also associated with both Bill Richardson, former ambassador to the UN and former secretary of energy under Clinton, and Larry Summers, secretary of the treasury under Clinton. Both Richardson and Summers sit on the advisory board of controversial energy company Genie Energy, alongside CIA director under Clinton, James Woolsey; Roy Cohn associate and media mogul, Rupert Murdoch; Mega Group member Michael Steinhardt; and Lord Jacob Rothschild. Genie Energy is controversial primarily for its exclusive rights to drill in the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights. Bill Richardson also has ties to Lynn Forester de Rothschild as she was on the Secretary of Energy's Advisory Board while Richardson was secretary of energy.

Bill Richardson appears to be among the Clinton era officials closest to Jeffrey Epstein, having personally visited Epstein's New Mexico ranch and been the recipient of Epstein donations of $50,000 to his 2002 and 2006 gubernatorial campaigns. Richardson gave Epstein's donation in 2006 to charity after allegations against Epstein were made public. Richardson was also accused in recently released court documents of engaging in sex with Epstein's underage victims, an allegation that he has denied.

The Jeffrey Epstein scandal: A post-mortem

In 1990, Danny Casolaro began his fateful one-year investigation of "the Octopus," an investigation that played no small role in his untimely death. Shortly after he was found lifeless in a hotel bathtub, Casolaro's friend Lynn Knowles was threatened and told the following : "What Danny Casolaro was investigating is a business Anyone who asks too many questions will end up dead."

Nearly thirty years later, that same "Octopus" and its "business" remains with us and has become ever more wrapped around the levers of power -- particularly in the worlds of government, finance and intelligence.

This MintPress investigative series has endeavored to show the nature of this network and how the world of "the Octopus" is the same world in which Jeffrey Epstein and his predecessors -- Craig Spence, Edwin Wilson and Roy Cohn among them -- operated and profited. It is a world where all that matters is the constant drive to accumulate ever more wealth and ever more power and to keep the racket going at all costs.

While this network has long been able to ensure its success through the use of sexual blackmail, often acquired by the unconscionable exploitation of children, it has also been a driving force behind many other ills that plague our world and it goes far beyond human and child trafficking. Indeed, many of the figures in this same sordid web have played a major role in the illicit drug and weapons trades, the expansion of for-profit prisons, and the endless wars that have claimed an untold number of lives across the world, all the while enriching many of these same individuals.

[Dec 14, 2019] Washington DC is simply rival gangs of crooks: The crookedness is proportional to the count of starched collars

Dec 14, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Moneycircus , 8 hours ago link

Washington DC is simply rival gangs of crooks. Take your pick.

Amazing Polly links BCCI to The Finders to Ghislaine Maxwell to SRA ( Youth. Sex. Relationships. - We Ascend )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSDWgq2YUos

[Dec 14, 2019] This goes so much deeper, as Whitney Webb points out below, there are much broader implications beyond the depraved pedophile aspect.

Dec 14, 2019 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

zagonostra , December 13, 2019 at 2:37 pm

>Fair:Epstein

This goes so much deeper, as Whitney Webb points out below, there are much broader implications beyond the depraved pedophile aspect.

Epstein's links to intelligence have since been confirmed. The CIA-Mossad links to Epstein were detailed in a recent MintPress investigative series and several mainstream media reports have corroborated Epstein's time as a self-described "financial bounty hunter" who hunted down embezzled funds and also hid stolen money for powerful people and governments.

references allude to Epstein's shady business activities in the New York and Palm Beach real estate markets from the mid-1980s to the late-1990s that were used to launder massive amounts of money for organized crime and intelligence. It is likely for this reason that Epstein's real estate activities during this period have been so deliberately ignored by the U.S. press, even though other aspects of his financial activities were heavily scrutinized in recent months.

Indeed, in examining Epstein's involvement in real estate markets, particularly in New York, it becomes clear that those activities have no shortage of controversial tie-ins to the current U.S. presidential administration as well as major New York power players involved in suspect financial activity immediately prior to the September 11 attacks as well as the 2008 financial crisis.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/category/epstein-investigation/

Pat , December 13, 2019 at 4:02 pm

I would be vastly surprised if Epstein's ties to the NY real estate markets doesn't include most of the major players not just the Trump organization. The outlier real estate moguls would be those without ties to controversial partners and organized crime.

boydownthelane , December 13, 2019 at 5:27 pm

With regard to ""There will come a day where we will realize Jeffrey Epstein was the most prolific pedophile this country has ever known.":

The focus is on Epstein, but it doesn't belong there. What about the adolescent females who have been victimized? Does anyone here have a clue or give a damn about what it means psychologically for the rest of their lives? And what about the hundreds or thousands of politicians, judges, media people, cultural leaders, et al who have been intimidated, blackmailed, compromised? What does that mean for politics, the economy, justice, etc.?

" this is how these games are played. If you look carefully, you will see them widely. Inform, enlighten, while throwing in doubletalk and untruths. The small number of people who read such books and articles will come away knowing some history that has no current relevance and being misinformed on other history that does. They will then be in the know, ready to pass their "wisdom" on to those who care to listen. They will not think they are average.

But they will be mind controlled, and the killer cat will roam freely without a bell, ready to devour the unsuspecting mice."

https://www.unz.com/article/the-art-of-doublespeak-bellingcat-and-mind-control/

[Dec 07, 2019] Epstein Was A Mossad Agent Used To Blackmail American Politicians, Former Israeli Spy Claims

Notable quotes:
"... Ari Ben-Menashe, a former Israeli spy and alleged "handler" of Robert Maxwell, told the authors of a new book, Epstein: Dead Men Tell No Tales , that Epstein ran a "complex intelligence operation" at the behest of Mossad. ..."
"... Believing that Epstein planned to marry his daughter, Maxwell introduced him and Ghislaine Maxwell to Ben-Menashe's Mossad circle. ..."
"... "See, fucking around is not a crime. It could be embarrassing, but it's not a crime. But fucking a fourteen-year-old girl is a crime. And he was taking photos of politicians fucking fourteen-year-old girls -- if you want to get it straight. They would just blackmail people, they would just blackmail people like that." ..."
Dec 07, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Paul Joseph Watson via Summit News,

Jeffrey Epstein was a Mossad asset who was used by Israeli intelligence to blackmail American politicians, according to a former Israeli spy.

Ari Ben-Menashe, a former Israeli spy and alleged "handler" of Robert Maxwell, told the authors of a new book, Epstein: Dead Men Tell No Tales , that Epstein ran a "complex intelligence operation" at the behest of Mossad.

Believing that Epstein planned to marry his daughter, Maxwell introduced him and Ghislaine Maxwell to Ben-Menashe's Mossad circle.

"Maxwell sort of started liking him, and my theory is that Maxwell felt that this guy is going for his daughter," Ben-Menashe said.

"He felt that he could bless him with some work and help him out in like a paternal [way]."

Israeli intelligence bosses gave the green light and Epstein then became a Mossad asset.

"They were agents of the Israeli Intelligence Services," said Ben-Menashe.

When it became clear that Epstein wasn't very competent at doing much else, his primary role became "blackmailing American and other political figures."

"Mr. Epstein was the simple idiot who was going around providing girls to all kinds of politicians in the United States," said Ben-Menashe.

"See, fucking around is not a crime. It could be embarrassing, but it's not a crime. But fucking a fourteen-year-old girl is a crime. And he was taking photos of politicians fucking fourteen-year-old girls -- if you want to get it straight. They would just blackmail people, they would just blackmail people like that."

There's also a Mossad connection to a different kind of sex offender; Harvey Weinstein.

Weinstein reportedly hired ex-Mossad agents to suppress allegations against him. Working for an Israeli firm called Black Cube, these agents pressured witnesses and tried to intimidate journalist Ronan Farrow in order to "bury the truth" about Weinstein's activity.


Sgt_Rock_95 , 5 minutes ago link

So to sum it up without even reading the article.

  1. Epstein was a foreign agent sent to entrap and blackmail American Politicians
  2. The carrot, the biggest weakness for Democrat politicians, is the chance to have sex with the under aged?

Got it.

Templar X , 8 minutes ago link

Jeffrey Epstein worked for Mossad, which is blackmailing every politician around the world that it can, but most especially those in the United States of America and Britain.

OPUS 167 Mossad Epstein Connection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6-gUqNPi4I&t=13s

Alison Weir: Findings from the new book "Against Our Better Judgement": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ly75-R5TN8

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Templar X , 11 minutes ago link

Trump Was 'Only One' To Help Prosecutor In 2009 Epstein Case

And while Democrats have suggested that the new evidence may implicate President Trump - who once called Epstein a "Terrific guy" who "likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side" (yet reportedly kicked the billionaire pedophile out of his Mar-a-Lago club for trying to recruit an underage girl) others are focusing on the Clintons.

A the NY Post detailed in 2016, Epstein and the Clintons are close .

Epstein has spent the bulk of his adult life cultivating relationships with the worlds most powerful men. Flight logs show that from 2001 to 2003, Bill Clinton flew on Epsteins private plane, dubbed The Lolita Express by the press, 26 times . After Epsteins arrest in July 2006, federal tax records show Epstein donated $25,000 to the Clinton Foundation that year.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's Superdelegate daughter Christine quipped on Twitter "It is quite likely that some of our faves are implicated but we must follow the facts and let the chips fall where they may."...

...

And what about Trump?

Following a 2018 financial settlement between Florida attorney Bradley Edwards - who represented one of Epstein's accusers, only to be later sued by Epstein, Edwards claimed that Donald Trump was the 'only person' who provided assistance when Edwards served subpoenas and notices to high-profile individuals connected to Epstein.

Edwards: The only thing that I can say about President Trump is that he is the only person who, in 2009 when I served a lot of subpoenas on a lot of people, or at least gave notice to some pretty connected people, that I want to talk to them, is the only person who picked up the phone and said, let's just talk. I'll give you as much time as you want. I'll tell you what you need to know, and was very helpful , in the information that he gave, and gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever, but had good information. That checked out and that helped us and we didn't have to take a deposition of him in 2009...

...In January 2016, Vice.com ran Silverstein's story on Trump's ties to Epstein, which framed them as more social - including dinner parties, two plane trips, and Epstein hanging out at Trump's Mar-a-lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida. As Radar reported last April, "According to an investigation by Radar, Trump was among dozens of renowned New Yorkers who knew Epstein socially but ostracized him after Palm Beach police uncovered the financiers sleazy double life, " adding that Trump "once barred child molester Jeffrey Epstein from his famed Mar-a-lago club after the presidential candidate caught him hitting on a young girl."

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-07/trump-was-only-one-help-prosecutor-2009-epstein-case

Templar X , 12 minutes ago link

I posted this days ago in another thread:

Russia, Israel and Saudi Arabia: Jeffrey Epstein 'Found a Niche -- Blackmailing American and Other Political Figures' For Foreign Powers, According to His Ex-Spy Handler

By Dylan Howard

December 5, 2019

Shameless pedophile Jeffrey Epstein inherited his espionage business from ex-girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell, whose father British media magnate Robert Maxwell, was a super spy for Israel's Mossad. Here, in another excerpt from the newly released book "Epstein: Dead Men Tell No Tales," former Israeli spy Ari Ben-Menashe tells how Epstein ran a complex intelligence operation.

Ari Ben-Menashe, a former Israeli spy and alleged "handler" of Robert Maxwell said of Epstein: "Maxwell introduced him to us, and he wanted us to accept him as part of our group.

Ben-Menashe claimed that Epstein and Ghislaine were already dating in the late 1980s, and that Maxwell Senior grew fond of the young upstart.

"Epstein was hanging around with Robert Maxwell and the daughter was hanging around there too, and that's how they met," he told author James Robertson in an interview from Montreal. "Just two young souls, they met."

"Maxwell sort of started liking him, and my theory is that Maxwell felt that this guy is going for his daughter," Ben-Menashe said. "He felt that he could bless him with some work and help him out in like a paternal [way]."

According to the former spy, the ultimate order to embrace Epstein and involve him in the ongoing arms deals came from "the bosses" at Israeli intelligence headquarters.

"They were agents of the Israeli Intelligence Services," he told James Robertson.

"Later on [Ghislaine] got involved with Israeli intelligence together with him. But not in this arms deal with Iran business," Ben-Menashe also told Zev Shalev , former CBS News executive producer and investigative journalist for the website Narativ.

"These guys were seen as agents. They weren't really competent to do very much. And so they found a niche for themselves -- blackmailing American and other political figures."

He told Robertson, "Mr. Epstein was the simple idiot who was going around providing girls to all kinds of politicians in the United States. See, ******* around is not a crime. It could be embarrassing, but it's not a crime. But ******* a fourteen-year-old girl is a crime. And he was taking photos of politicians ******* fourteen-year-old girls -- if you want to get it straight. They would just blackmail people, they would just blackmail people like that."

Ben-Menashe is a mysterious Iranian-born Israeli businessman who claims to have worked for Mossad from 1977 to 1987, The Sun reported this week. He was arrested in 1989 in the US on arms dealing charges but was acquitted in 1990 after a jury accepted he was acting on behalf of Israel. Israel tried to distance themselves from him, with government sources saying he never had anything to do with intelligence services, although other news reports -- in both the US and Israel -- confirmed he did. He later wrote a book called Profits of War: Inside the US-Israeli Arms Network and in the early 1990s claimed that Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine's dad, worked for Mossad.

But there remains more questions than answers about how Epstein came to be one of the most horrifying villains the modern world has ever known -- a shameless pedophile who built a network of child sex abuse around the globe. But in this case, the rot of evil goes even deeper than that.

How did Epstein pull off his sex trafficking scheme?

Who was a participant, and who might have helped him?

These questions -- and more -- linger still, even after inmate 76318–054 was found dead at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York City...

https://medium.com/@dylanhoward/russia-israel-and-saudi-arabia-jeffrey-epstein-found-a-niche-blackmailing-american-and-other-d3499f4f60dd

[Dec 04, 2019] Is Jeffrey Epstein's Boss Ghislaine Maxwell Helping Mossad Run Pedophile Rings for Prince Andrew and the Ruling Elite by Marco

Dec 04, 2019 | www.unz.com

Video introduction to this article. (If the video is deleted by Youtube you can find it also here in Bitchute.)

https://www.youtube.com/embed/7iVHTrzAoRQ?feature=oembed

The Epstein Pedoscandal Mossad Timeline shows in detail how Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell were working for the Israeli intelligence agency, Mossad.

Link to Unz.com article

The timeline generated many comments at Unz.com but surprisingly most of them dealt whether Epstein was a pedophile or not. This despite the overwhelming evidence of pedophilia.

Many have also totally missed – or are afraid to notice – the big picture: Israeli intelligence agencies and especially Mossad seem to be running pedophile rings that blackmail Western political, business and scientific leaders.

Furthermore, it seems that Ghislaine Maxwell was and still is the master mind behind many of these pedophile rings.

One of the reasons Epstein and Ghislaine were able to continue sex trafficking with impunity for so long was the appearance that Epstein was a victim of jealous people and overzealous police. Many people thought that Epstein had only had sex with a 17-year old girl who had lied about her age.

This excuse worked well because in Florida the age of consent is 18 while in most other American states it is 16.

Link to Wikipedia

Epstein was able to play the martyr by not only claiming that unscrupulous girls had lied their age but also by implying that the age of consent is too high anyway in Florida.

This was also one reason why in New Mexico where Epstein had his Zorro Ranch the officials refused to register him as a sex offender. In New Mexico the age of consent was 16 until in 2018 it was raised to 18.

Furthermore, unlike in many other states, in New Mexico the courts recognize a mistake of age defense.

New Mexico courts recognize a mistake of age defense . The mistake of age defense is basically "I thought she was 17." However, this is no guarantee that this defense will work in court. Moreover, the mistake of age is the creation of judges in the absence of a direct statute addressing the defense. State lawmakers may pass a law overriding the courts on this issue at any time. ( LegalMatch )

In reality the Epstein-Ghislaine case is not whether it is wrong for an adult to have sex with a 17 year old. Instead it is about many other things such as prostitution, grooming, pedophilia and the exploitation of children.

This all is connected to global politics involving sex trafficking, drug and arms trade, money laundering, Ponzi schemes, spy networks and blackmailing for Mossad.

Epstein's victims were caught in a web of international spy network that used them as pawns for blackmail operations. The younger the girls were, the more leverage Israel would have over politicians, billionaires and scientists. Thus Epstein and Ghislaine tried to also recruit girls who were well under the age of 16.

What is more, they personally enjoyed having sex with these very young girls. Both Epstein and Ghislaine seem to have been pedophiles who were attracted to prepubescent girls and boys, i.e. small children.

Pedophilia is defined as:

Pedophilia ( alternatively spelt paedophilia) is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children. [1] [2] ( Wikipedia )

Note that in order to be a pedophile it is enough to have merely occasional sexual attraction to prepubescent, i.e. sexually immature children who have not yet developed secondary sex characteristics, such as breasts.

Julie Brown from Miami Herald notes that Courtney Wild was only 14 when she was recruited into Epstein's sex ring.

Wild still had braces on her teeth when she was introduced to him in 2002 at the age of 14.

She was fair, petite and slender, blonde and blue-eyed. (emphasis added. Miami Herald )

Link to Miami Herald

Julie Brown also notes that Epstein preferred girls who were not only white [and non-Jewish] but also appeared prepubescent.

Wild, who later helped recruit other girls, said Epstein preferred girls who were white, appeared prepubescent and those who were easy to manipulate into going further each time. (Emphasis added. Miami Herald )

For Epstein and Ghislaine it was important that the girls at the very least looked like small children. This is obviously why they preferred girls who were under 16.

Courtney Wild told the police that she brought Epstein over 70 girls and they were all under 16.

By the time I was 16, I had probably brought him 70 to 80 girls who were all 14 and 15 years old (Emphasis added. Miami Herald )

Some girls were even younger. According to the police many were 13 year old.

The girls -- mostly 13 to 16 -- were lured to his pink waterfront mansion by Wild and other girls, who went to malls, house parties and other places where girls congregated, and told recruits that they could earn $200 to $300 to give a man -- Epstein -- a massage, according to an unredacted copy of the Palm Beach police investigation obtained by the Herald. (Emphasis added. Miami Herald )

It is also important to note that even 13 was not the minimum age for Epstein and Ghislaine. In fact, there was no limit to how young the girls could be. Both Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell emphasized that the younger the better.

Eventually, she said Maxwell trained her to recruit new girls for Epstein.

"Jeffrey was very particular in the kind of girls he wanted. First off, the younger the better ."

Epstein said that to her, Giuffre claimed, and " Maxwell said that too . During the training and telling me how to do it, she said 'You always have to go for the youngest-looking ones .'" (Emphasis added. The Daily Beast )

Link to The Daily Beast

It seems the primary purpose was not even blackmail since especially Epstein was having sex with these young girls all the time. On some days Epstein was having sex several times a day.

Sex games were more important for Epstein than work. Obviously, he was extremely attracted to these young girls.

Palm Beach multimillionaire Jeffrey Epstein, 54, was accused of assembling a large, cult-like network of underage girls -- with the help of young female recruiters -- to coerce into having sex acts behind the walls of his opulent waterfront mansion as often as three times a day , the Town of Palm Beach police found. (Emphasis added. Miami Herald )

In six months, I never saw him do a day's work," Ransome told The Telegraph. "I never saw him work. He was literally sexually abusing us all day long . (Emphasis added. Business Insider )

Link to Business Insider

Ghislaine also seemed to be obsessed with sex. Just like her father, Robert Maxwell she was rumored to be interested in unconventional sex which includes also sex with young children.

As she [Ghislaine] posed for the pics, which ran in a publication meant to promote Sotheby's vintage fashion collection, she allegedly let slip comments that hinted at a twisted double life.

"She didn't talk about Epstein, but during the shoot she did tell a story about how she just hosted a dinner party for a number of young girls, and she put dildos at each place setting," the source said. "Ghislaine then described how during the dinner two guests, who were a couple, began demonstrating how to do the perfect fellatio on a man for all at the table. She was laughing about it."

"A friend of mine has a whole theory about her, that Epstein was like her father Robert Maxwell, who himself is believed to have had some strange sexual practices." ( Page Six )

Link to PageSix

The Epstein Mossad-Timeline shows how Ghislaine was most probably trained by Mossad to use sex to gather information. That training would not have been too difficult for her since she was hypersexual. Many even considered her a nymphomaniac.

In fact, even many Israeli Jews – who usually have much fewer sexual taboos than puritan English and Americans – were shocked by her raunchy sexuality.

Flirtatious indeed: I understand from a mutual friend that after school she travelled to Israel and visited a kibbutz; she was immediately ostracised by the other girls for making a rather-too-obvious beeline for the Adonis-like lifeguard at the kibbutz pool. Very quickly she got her way, as she would with much in her life. ( Tatler . Emphasis added.)

Even Ghislaine's friend were sometimes shocked by her open sexuality that so often contrasted with her otherwise lady-like behavior and position in high society.

Ghislaine was, added Mason, 'fantastically entertaining' and 'saucy' – the paper said that she talked openly about sex .

In fact, said another acquaintance who saw her often at parties, she was 'obsessed by sex . She's Sphinx-like, mysterious. The last time I saw her, five, 10 years ago, I said what are you up to? And she said "I'm selling this product – stainless-steel mini dumb-bells – that you put up your fanny. For exercising your vaginal muscles, exercise your pelvic floor, learn the Singapore Grip. I'm giving seminars in LA and they all turn up and I tell them, this is how you keep your man."' ( Tatler . Emphasis added.)

Epstein and Ghislaine were both hypersexual. All kind of sex interested them. Little girls were just part of the menu. Or more specifically, the best – and most profitable – part.

Epstein and Ghislaine were so attracted to young girls that nothing seemed to satisfy them. Perhaps this is why Epstein and Ghislaine created the highly risky sexual pyramid scheme. The girls were offered two alternatives: Either satisfy Epstein and Ghislaine sexually or get more girls to satisfy them.

In this way Epstein and Ghislaine were able to recruit literally hundreds of young girls. However, some of these girls went to the police and the sexual pyramid scheme collapsed.

When Epstein got out of jail in 2009 he had half-learned his lesson: American girls are too risky.

Now Epstein and Ghislaine would only concentrate on East European girls with the help of their Jewish-Ukrainian friend Peter Listerman.

One of the lesser-known shadowy figures linked to Jeffrey Epstein and his sex ring of teenage girls and young women is Ukrainian-born Peter Listerman, who has worked as a businessman and television presenter but is most known for his "match-making" abilities.

What match-making really means is that Listerman procures women, often underage, for the jet-set society to use for sexual purposes. His "clients" include Russian oligarchs and American businessmen and seems to have also included Jeffrey Epstein. ( Citizen Truth )

Link to the Citizen Truth.org

Listerman has such a bad reputation that he is shunned even in Ukraine!

Tatiana Savchenko, who founded the first modeling school in Odessa, Ukraine explained to the Daily Beast the lengths she had to go to keep Listerman from getting his hands on young women and trafficking them for sex work.

She claimed that he would frequently approach her students and attempt to lure them with promises of a luxurious lifestyle, and that "It took a lot of work to keep him from tricking our teen models in his traps." ( Citizen Truth )

Peter Listerman is the usual suspect. Link to Fishki.net Do you think I am kidding? I am Peter Listerman! Link to Fishki.net

Both Epstein and Listerman were attracted to very young girls. Neither even tried to hide it much. In fact, Epstein was quite open about his attraction to tweens.

Just three months ago, as federal prosecutors were closing in with new charges, Mr. Epstein had a conversation with R. Couri Hay, a publicist, about continuing to improve his reputation. Mr. Epstein asserted that what he was convicted of did not constitute pedophilia, said Mr. Hay, who declined to represent him.

The girls he had sex with were "tweens and teens," Mr. Epstein told him. ( The New York Times )

But what is a tween?

Preadolescent is generally defined as those ranging from age 10 to 13 years. [4] [6] While known as preadolescent in psychology, the terms preteen, preteenager or tween are common in everyday use. ( Wikipedia )

Epstein was right, of course. What he was convicted of in 2007 did not constitute pedophilia. However, that is precisely one reason why people are so outraged!

Epstein and Ghislaine did not see any problem of recruiting, grooming and having sex also with tweens. And apparently neither did the Justice Department and the FBI led by Robert Mueller !

But it gets even worse. As pointed out in the Epstein Pedoscandal Mossad Timeline , it seems that Epstein and Ghislaine were after even younger girls.

In 2003 Epstein financed Jean-Luc Brunell's(?) and Jeff Fuller's(J) new modelling agency MC2 that seemed to have worked with Peter Listerman.

MC2 obviously refers to the famous Einstein equation E = MC2 , the energy-mass equivalence. Equally obviously, E equals Epstein, the energy, whereas the girls equal MC2, the mass energized by Epstein.

Jean-Luc Brunell

Brunell is generally known as the sleaziest man in model business who has long faced accusations that girls were drugged and raped in his employ . Already in the 80s he was the subject of a famous 60 Minutes expose on sexual abuse in the modeling industry

https://www.youtube.com/embed/CH8NAaPUvlo?feature=oembed

Despite all this – or for the very reason – Epstein invested in MC2 and became particularly close to its founders Brunel and Fuller.

The agency operates in New York, Miami and Tel Aviv. It's in practice half-Israeli.

Many call Israel the capital of human trafficking and organ harvesting .

Link to Ynet.com

MC2 concentrates on importing East European girls to Israel and America. The younger the better.

Marina Lynchuk of MC2 Lolita Lvola from MC2 Linta Lapinda from MC2

Brunel seems to have given 12-year old triplets to Epstein as a birthday present.

'Jeffrey bragged after he met them that they were 12-year-olds and flown over from France because they're really poor over there, and their parents needed the money or whatever the case is and they were absolutely free to stay and flew out,' Giuffre said.

She said she saw the three girls with her own eyes and that Epstein had repeatedly described to her how the girls had massaged him and performed oral sex on him. They were flown back to France the next day.

Link to Daily Mail

It seems that even tweens were not young enough for Epstein.

According to court papers in 2005 Brunel called Epstein and left a message that "he is sending him a 16-year-old Russian girl for purposes of sex". However, the written message says something even worse.

The message, filed as an exhibit in the case, was written on an office message pad, partly in code, and read: "He [Brunel] has a teacher for you to teach you how to speak Russian. She is 2×8 years old not blonde. Lessons are free and you can have your 1st today if you call." ( New York Post )

Does it mean that two eight year olds are involved? Or does 2 x 8 mean to sex 8 year old? (2=to, x=sex)

Why would the lessons be free and why is it relevant that the "teacher" is not a blond?

There is no denying that Epstein and Ghislaine sexualised even small children. This became clear in 2005 when police raided Epstein's Palm Peach mansion.

In one photo that was hanging on the wall a small six or seven year old girl was bending over in a tiny dress. Police blurred out the photo in the video taken during the raid.

Link to The Daily Mail

https://www.youtube.com/embed/-KhMIXqZWt8?feature=oembed

Despite all this only the Russian Television was actively trying to expose Epstein and Ghislaine.

RT aired this video already nine years ago!

The description on the video is even more revealing. It even mentions the 12-year old triplets.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/0f_Md0yzy4Q?feature=oembed

The American TV networks were actively suppressing the story for years.

The American media has also been trying to cover up the fact that Jeffrey Epstein was most probably murdered in his cell. He had to be silenced.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/8non5URYbQs?feature=oembed

But it gets even worse.

This hung on Ghislaine's home wall.

NEW YORK CITY, NY – MARCH 13: Atmosphere at Hamish Bowles, Ghislaine Maxwell and Lillian von Stauffenberg dinner for ALLEGRA HICKS at Home of Ghislaine Maxwell on March 13, 2007 in New York City. (Photo by Patrick McMullan/Patrick McMullan via Getty Images). Link to Getty Images.

The so called artwork seems to be full of pedophile symbols.

Link to Wikileaks.org

The quality of the photos taken at Ghislaine's home are so good that even more symbols have been found in her artwork.

For some reason the mainstream media has not picked up on this pedophilia angle. No mainstream media journalist has even tried to ask why would Ghislaine have such art and symbols on her home wall.

This despite the fact that Ghislaine is most probably an Israeli superspy just like was her father, Robert Maxwell. She probably has been trained to use sex – including pedophilia – as a tool for blackmail and manipulation.

At the time in Israel females molesting little boys was not even considered rape.

Link to Haaretz.com

Nor have mainstream journalists asked where was Ghislaine when Madeline McCann was abducted.

That would not be an unreasonable question since one of the E-Fit images looks a lot like Ghislaine.

Link to Enchanted Life Path.com

Furthermore, two of the E-Fit images (1A, 1B) look like the Podesta brothers. John Podesta was White House Chief of Staff to Bill Clinton and the Chairman of the 2016 Hillary Clinton presidential campaign.

Ghislaine and Epstein were close to the Clintons and the Podesta brothers have been directly linked also to Pizzagate.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/l5AxV1SrTkE?feature=oembed

Link to Pizzagate Map created by Tuukka Pensala

Was Ghislaine helping to run also Pizzagate and other pedophile rings for Mossad?

At least she seems to be perfectly trained to do just that. First, her own hypersexuality, family background and possible training by Mossad made it easy for her to master mind the pedophilia ring she run with Epstein.

Second, Ghislaine and Epstein had all the apparel to help run also other pedophile rings: Lolita express airplanes and helicopters, Zorro Ranch in New Mexico and luxury mansions in New York, Palm Peach and Paris.

Even more importantly they had their own island in the Virgin Islands.

In the 90s Epstein bought Little St. James island from the Virgin islands. It had a mansion which Epstein expanded.

Soon locals started to call it the Pedophile Island.

Little St. James island. Link to Wall Street Journal article

The island seems to have tunnels with several underground entrances.

Underground entrance Link to Twitter

The island also has a strange temple.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/LNue92Gta3s?feature=oembed

We Are Change's Luke Rudkowski and the Dollar Vigilante's Jeff Berwick secretly visited the island but were soon chased out.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/VmgSM7lWRts?feature=oembed

Ghislaine has a Helicopter Pilot License and often transported quests to the island.

On the weekends in the 1990s, Maxwell would have her Rollerblades FedExed to Epstein's island in the Caribbean, and said she got her helicopter's license so she could transport anyone she liked without pilots knowing who they were .

Maxwell also said the island had been completely wired for video; the friend thought that she and Epstein were videotaping everyone on the island as an insurance policy, as blackmail.

A source close to Maxwell says she spoke glibly and confidently about getting girls to sexually service Epstein, saying this was simply what he wanted, and describing the way she'd drive around to spas and trailer parks in Florida to recruit them. She would claim she had a phone job for them, "and you'll make lots of money, meet everyone, and I'll change your life."

Maxwell had one other thing to tell this woman: "When I asked what she thought of the underage girls, she looked at me and said, 'they're nothing, these girls. They are trash .'" (Emphasis added. Vanity Fair )

Ghislaine was naturally using Epstein's helicopters. Some of them shared their FAA tail number with a US contractor, Dyncorp . That would have helped Ghislaine and Epstein to fly drugs and children.

FAA records and Epstein's pilot's flight manifest indicate that Epstein's Bell helicopter used the same tail number of N474AW . This was the same tail number used until 2006 by State Department contractor Dyncorp for counter-insurgency operations in Latin America.

The congruence of Epstein's Bell N474AW and Dincorp's Bronco N474AW is noteworthy. In 2002, the year Epstein's aircraft fleet stands accused of flying underage teen girls, some between the ages of 12 and 15 , coincided with Dyncorp's trafficking in underage females between the ages of 12 and 15 from Kosovo and Bosnia in the Balkans.

One Dyncorp whistleblower reported to The Washington Times's Insight magazine's Kelly O'Meara in 2002 the following on one Dyncorp employee in Bosnia:

[he] owned a girl who couldn't have been more than 14 years old. It's a sick sight anyway to see any grown man [having sex] with a child, but to see some 45-year-old man who weights 400 pounds with a little girl, it just makes you sick."

Tail number N474AW has been shared between Epstein's Bell helicopter like the one in this photo. (Emphasis added. Political Bull Pen )

DynCorp's pedophilia ring became internationally infamous with the release of the movie Whistleblower.

Link to Wikipedia

Helicopters can always be seen. However, Ghislaine also has a license to operate submarines!

In 2012 – three years after Epstein got out of jail – Maxwell founded The TerraMar Project , [51] a nonprofit organization that advocated protecting ocean waters.

She gave a lecture for TerraMar at the University of Texas at Dallas and a TED talk, at TEDx Charlottesville in 2014. [52] Maxwell accompanied Stuart Beck (J), a 2013 TerraMar board member, to two United Nations meetings to discuss the project. [17] ( Wikipedia )

In 2014, a United Nations event featured Maxwell as a speaker. According to her bio in the program, Maxwell's "web-based non-profit" aimed "to protect the Oceans by empowering a global community of ocean citizens ." It further described Maxwell as "a private helicopter pilot and an Emergency Medical Technician and a qualified ROV and Deepworker submarine pilot ."

A former Coast Guard officer, Borgerson was also a fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations , which featured Borgerson and Maxwell as speakers during one 2014 talk titled "Governing the Ocean Commons: Growing Challenges, New Approaches." Friends of Maxwell, according to The New York Times , said Borgerson became her boyfriend. Maxwell had allegedly described Borgerson as a " Navy SEAL " to her pals.

Maxwell's dubious charity also roped in the Clinton Global Initiative , the now-defunct networking platform for the Clinton Foundation. In the fall of 2013, CGI named TerraMar as one of the "commitments to action" at their annual meeting. (Emphasis added. Daily Beast )

Did the Pedophile Island have an underground submarine base? Was it a part of global pedophile network?

And was the Ocean Citizens project an attempt to escape national jurisdictions and thus gain at least a partial immunity from police investigations and prosecutions?

Link to TerraMar Project

Interestingly, as late as 2016 Epstein bought also the nearby Great St. James Island. He started to build on the island without permits.

There were rumors that he was building underground. For some reason the mainstream media has had no interest in this second island.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/v1NKk78YQKI?feature=oembed

Why is the mainstream media not interested in Ghislaine's many links to pedophilia?

Perhaps because Ghislaine has so many powerful friends. The photo of the pedophile artwork on Ghislaine's wall was taken 13 March 2007 during a party at Ghislaine's New York townhouse. The guest list included a curious combination of elite Jews, aristocratic Brits and American WASPs.

Atmosphere==
Hamish Bowles, Ghislaine Maxwell and Lillian von Stauffenberg dinner for ALLEGRA HICKS. Home of Ghislaine Maxwell. March 13, 2007©Patrick McMullan. Photo-Patrick McMullan/Patrick McMullan.com. Link to Quick N Dirty

The party was in Ghislaine's huge 7000-square-foot townhouse. It is located in the most opulent and prestigious neighborhood of America, the Upper East Side , New York on East 65th Street just off Park Avenue. Epstein's townhouse was only 10 blocks away.

Ghislaine's five story townhouse. Link to Street Easy Ghislaine's townhouse floor plan. Link to Street Easy Ghislaine's townhouse 2nd floor gallery. Link to Street Easy

There are reports from reliable sources that the townhouse was sold in 2000 to Ghislaine by Lynn Forester de Rothschild . The very same woman who had introduced Epstein and Ghislaine to Alan Dershowits and the Clintons in the 90s.

The Manhattan property, which is close to Epstein's mansion, is owned by Lynn Forester de Rothschild, wife of British financier Sir Evelyn de Rothschild. (See The Times and the original article .)

According to Business Insider Forester sold the townhouse to Ghislaine for less than half the price.

Forester sold the mansion for about $8.5 million less than its assessed market value, which was more than $13.4 million.

Was this a pay-off to Ghislaine from the King of Jews, the Rothschilds for services rendered?

Hillary Clinton, Evelyn de Rothschild, Bill Clinton and Lynn Forester de Rothschild. Link to Mint Press

It probably is also relevant that at the time of the sale of the townhouse the Prime Minister of Israel was Ehud Barak. In the 80s he had been the head of Aman, the Israeli Military Intelligence Agency. As the Epstein Pedoscandal Mossad Timeline revealed, both Epstein and Ghislaine worked for the Israeli intelligence agencies already in the 80s during the Iran-Contra operation.

Note that it was around year 2000 that Epstein and Ghislaine started the pedophile operation in earnest. In the 80s and 90s blackmail operations were a side show but now it became the main show involving hundreds of young girls.

Sexual blackmail – especially involving little children – can be an extremely efficient way to influence key politicians and even military officials. A successful blackmail operation can achieve more than several army divisions. No wonder Barak was so close to Epstein and Ghislaine.

Furthermore, in 2000 the president of Israel was Moshe Katsev who was sexually harassing and even raping his female subordinates. Later Katsev would be convicted of rape.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Fw9-HUiI9Ak?feature=oembed

It was also in 2000 when the Israeli Vice-Consul of Rio de Janeiro, Arie Scher and Hebrew language Professor George Schteinberg were running a pedophile ring for Israeli tourists. When the Brasilian police started to investigate the Israeli consulate Scher managed to flee back to Israel.

Link to Rodoh.info

In Israel Scher was not prosecuted. Instead in 2005 he was promoted to Consul of Canberra, the capital of Australia. A spokesman for the Israeli Foreign Ministry in Jerusalem, Mark Regev explained:

He [Arie Scher] was a young and single man at the time [in Brazil]. Now he is married and he's six years older and there is no reason why he shouldn't make an excellent diplomatic appointment in Australia.

Australia refused to let Scher enter the country.

Link to William Bowles Info

The most shocking part of the Arie/Aryeh Scher story is that the mainstream media was not interested. Either the stories have been scrubbed from the internet or no stories were ever written by mainstream journalists except one short story by BBC in 2000 and one even smaller story by The Sydney Morning Herald in 2005. Even more surprisingly Youtube does not seem to have any videos about the Scher case.

No wonder Barak was absolutely convinced that the Western mainstream media would never dare to criticize Israel and its intelligence agencies. Not even when Mossad was running pedophile rings.

It was probably the Israeli leaders Shimon Peres, Ehud Barak and Moshe Katsev together with the ultra-Zionist Mega Group who made sure Epstein and especially the Maxwell family had not only immunity from prosecution but also all the blackmail apparel necessary including luxury townhouses, airplanes, yachts, submarines, ranch and a private island. All, of course, bugged to the hilt.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak (R) talks to Shimon Peres, Minister of Regional Planning, after Barak's speech at the opening session of parliament in Jerusalem 30 October 2000. AFP PHOTO / SVEN NACKSTRAND (Photo credit should read SVEN NACKSTRAND/AFP/Getty Images) Link to Getty Images

Here the pedophile artwork at Ghislaine's New York townhouse can be seen behind Lillian von Staufenberg who in March 2007 together with Ghislaine and Hamish Bowles organized a dinner party in honor of Allegra Hicks. This at a time when Epstein had already been charged with abusing young girls.

Karen Groos, Allegra Hicks, Lillian von Stauffenberg==
Hamish Bowles, Ghislaine Maxwell and Lillian von Stauffenberg dinner for ALLEGRA HICKS. Home of Ghislaine Maxwell, NYC. March 13, 2007 ©Patrick McMullan/Patrick McMullan.com. Link to QuickNDirty

Why would Ghislaine have such a suspicious artwork on her wall knowing that it would probably be photographed during the parties?

Why would Ghislaine and her quests take such a huge risk? Or was it a sign meant to be seen? Was Ghislaine flaunting her power?

Ghislaine and her quests seemed to be absolutely sure that the mainstream media would not dare to ask embarrassing questions.

They were right, of course. The mainstream media knows its place.

However, occasionally some courageous mainstream journalist or editor does try to give hints. Some have even reported on Ghislaine's hyper-sexual reputation and her orgies. It is just that the stories have mostly been scrubbed from the internet.

Fortunately, Whitney Webb from Mintpress has found many of the scrubbed stories. Some of them mention the Mossad connection and others note the orgies. For example, in 2003 a British newspaper, The Evening Standard reported a revealing rumor.

Salacious reports have crossed the Atlantic about Ghislaine hosting bizarre parties at her house to which she invites a dozen or so young girls, then brandishes a whip and teaches them how to improve their sexual techniques.

It seems that Ghislaine was not only a madame to Epstein but also to the ruling elite. This would both explain her popularity and the fact that the media – and especially the American media – dares not to criticize her too much. Not even after her boyfriend Epstein was charged with sex trafficking minors!

Ghislaine's friends are just too powerful. After the March 2007 party the British Daily Mail newspaper was amazed how Ghislaine could still have attracted such creme de la creme of the highest elite. Even more amazingly, the elite was practically swooning over her.

The night before the party, the hostess [Ghislaine] had been inundated with calls from disgruntled socialites, irked that they hadn't received an invitation.

The hostess greeted their objections with her customary charm, but remained unmoved. As always, her list had been carefully edited, and she intended it to stay that way.

Among the select few were Hollywood star Matthew Modine, Kennedy family member Mrs Anthony Radziwill, Peggy Siegel, PR consultant to the stars, and Julie Janklow, heir to a literary dynasty.

There was a Rockefeller on the list, as well as the inevitable countesses, billionaires and New York luminaries.

Link to Daily Mail

The guests at the party included also Renee Rockefeller who is married to Mark Rockefeller , the son of ex-Vice President Nelson Rockefeller and nephew of David Rockefeller.

Allegra Hicks, Renee Rockefeller==
Hamish Bowles, Ghislaine Maxwell and Lillian von Stauffenberg dinner for ALLEGRA HICKS. Home of Ghislaine Maxwell, NYC. March 13, 2007 ©Patrick McMullan/Patrick McMullan.com. Link to QuickNDirty

David Rockefeller lived at 146 East on the same 65th Street in the Upper East Side as Ghislaine. They were practically neighbors. Ghislaine would have to walk only two minutes to visit David.

David liked to pose for photos in his Beetle Room next to his favorite Picasso painting depicting a nude child "prostitute".

David Rockefeller. Link to Jeffrey Harris Desing.com

David was often visited by his close friend Jacob Rothschild, the patriarch of the Rothschild family.

The very same family that got Ghislaine her luxury townhouse next door.

The patriarchs, Jacob Rothschild and David Rockefeller. Link to Jeffrey Harris Design.com

As shown by the Epstein Pedoscandal Mossad Timeline both Epstein and Ghislaine continued to move in the highest circles long after Epstein got out of jail. In fact, only last year Ghislaine was invited to a secret writers' retreat hosted by the richest man in the world, Jeff Bezos.

Link to The Daily Mail

Not only billionaires but also royalty kept in close contact with Ghislaine.

Prince Andrew was recently interviewed by the BBC about his relationship with Epstein, Ghislaine and their sex slave Virginia Roberts.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/AKQi3wzNFGQ?feature=oembed

Amazingly, Andrew claimed she has no recollection of Epstein's and Ghislaine's sex slave, Virginia Roberts. This despite the fact that they were photographed together!

Prince Andrew, Virginia Roberts and Ghislaine Maxwell. Link to Daily Mail Link to The Sun.com

https://www.youtube.com/embed/TVawMbof6sQ?feature=oembed

Hardly anybody believes Andrew. The queen had no choice but to sack his own son.

Link to Daily Mail

Andrew got sacked because he was caught in a lie.

Andrew claimed he could not have had sex with the 17-year old Virginia in 2001 because he had stayed with the British consul general.

The problem is the consul general does not recall Andrew staying with him.

Link to Daily Mail

Curiously, most of the mainstream media has forgotten that it was Ghislaine who recruited and manipulated Virginia Roberts to become a sex slave.

Even the BBC forgot this crucial fact despite Andrew mentioning Ghislaine many times during the interview.

Time and again, the Prince invoked his friendship with Maxwell, 57, daughter of disgraced media tycoon Robert Maxwell, as the reason he came into paedophile Epstein's orbit.

Asked when he last saw Maxwell, Andrew said his last contact was 'earlier this year, funnily enough', when she 'was here doing some rally'. ( Daily Mail )

Andrew claimed to have met Ghislaine last spring. In fact, they met in June just after US prosecutors reopened the case against Epstein.

The Duke of York held a meeting with Ghislaine Maxwell in London two weeks after US prosecutors announced they wanted to reopen their investigation into Jeffrey Epstein.

The meeting took place on or about June 5, the day before Ms Maxwell took part in a four-day charity motoring rally from London to Monte Carlo.

Did Ghislaine demand that Andrew help make sure that the her own parallel case would not be reopened?

After meeting Andrew she literally disappeared from the face of the earth.

The ex-socialite has not been seen since although rumours have placed her in Brazil, France, the American mid-West and even the UK.

'No one knows where she is,' a lawyer for one of Epstein's victims said last night. 'She's done the greatest disappearing act known to man – or woman.' ( Daily Mail )

Link to Daily Mail

Shockingly, during the BBC interview Prince Andrew mentioned Ghislaine many times and seemed to be proud of their friendship. Despite this the interviewer did not dare to ask questions about their relationship.

Was this a message to all: Leave Ghislaine alone.

Ghislaine is obviously protected not only by the royal family but also by the whole ruling elite. No wonder that she has the Get-Out-of-Jail-Free card .

Ghislaine also tries to protect other Epstein associates.

Link to Daily Mail

Prince Andrew is now afraid to go to the US.

Five women who accuse Jeffrey Epstein of abusing them say Prince Andrew witnessed how people were given massages at the sex offender's homes.

The lawyer for the women has told BBC Panorama he plans to serve subpoenas to force the Duke of York to testify as a witness in all five cases.

He says the prince could have important information about sex trafficking. ( BBC )

Link to BBC story and video

The BBC has now finally zoomed in on Ghislaine.

Another Epstein victim, Sarah Ransome told Panorama Ghislaine Maxwell, one of Prince Andrew's oldest friends, worked hand in hand with Epstein.

"Ghislaine controlled the girls. She was like the Madam," she said.

"She was like the nuts and bolts of the sex trafficking operation and she would always visit Jeffrey on the island to make sure the girls were doing what they were supposed to be doing.

"She knew what Jeffrey liked. She worked and helped maintain Jeffrey's standard by intimidation, by intimidating the girls, so this was very much a joint effort."

Ms Maxwell could not be reached for comment but has previously denied any involvement in or knowledge of Epstein's abuse. ( BBC )

But the American media is still not interested in Ghislaine.

What the American mainstream media always willfully forgets is that Ghislaine Maxwell is the key person and mastermind behind the whole pedo sex trafficking operation.

The key role of Ghislaine is not surprising. After all, her father was an Israeli super spy, Robert Maxwell.

But perhaps this is the very reason why the American media is not interested.

For years Ghislaine has been at the center of a vast pedophile sex trafficking network. But still to this day the American police has never dared to even interview her.

She simply knows too much.


Trinity , says: December 4, 2019 at 5:15 am GMT

I think the answer to the question in the title of this article is pretty damn obvious to anyone and everyone outside of the controlled media. smdh. Call me crazy, but I wouldn't be shocked to learn that pervert Jeffrey Epstein is still alive somewhere, not only do I not buy the "suicide story," but I am not buying he was murdered either. Ghislane described the girls involved in this pedophile ring/honey pot as "trash." If these girls are or were "trash" than what in the hell does that this demonic witch named Ghislane Maxwell?

[Dec 01, 2019] Will The Epstein Story Ever be Fully Told by Bill Rice

Notable quotes:
"... The list of those who might have some knowledge of Epstein's criminal enterprise includes a sitting president, ex-presidents, ex-prime ministers, Justice Department officials, State Department officials, FBI agents, employees of domestic and international intelligence agencies, state prosecutors, local law enforcement, politicians, ex-politicians, lobbyists, titans of industry and finance, CEOs, attorneys, accountants, banks and bankers, celebrities, academics, scientists, political operatives and executives within the Fourth Estate. ..."
"... For example, how is it possible that Ghislaine Maxwell - the "Bonnie" to Epstein's "Clyde" - has yet to be charged with any crimes? Or, as far as the public knows, even been questioned by authorities. ..."
"... Public skepticism about the "investigation" spiked when, five weeks after his arrest, the FBI finally raided Epstein's "Lolita" Island. Epstein's "ranch" in New Mexico has still not been searched. ..."
"... Every person named in court documents or press reports as allegedly or possibly having sex with an underaged girl or young woman at Epstein's bequest has denied the allegations. Which begs the question: Who's telling the truth and who's lying? ..."
"... True or not, many Americans believe the Department of "Justice" will not prosecute (perhaps even question) scores of individuals who may have broken U.S. laws and who may have been victims of a disturbing blackmail operation. ..."
"... At its core, the Epstein case will reveal whether government prosecutors and investigators possess the courage and integrity to expose sordid truths about some of the wealthiest, most-connected, powerful people in the world, and perhaps reveal embarrassing truths about our government. ..."
"... Bill Rice, Jr. is a freelance writer in Troy, Alabama. He can be reached by email at [email protected] ..."
Dec 01, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

More than four months after Jeffrey Epstein's arrest - and three months after his alleged suicide - it requires no opinion poll to know that few Americans believe the story of the international sex trafficking ring orchestrated by Epstein and his alleged "co-accomplices" will ever be fully told.

More specifically, many Americans believe that most (if not all) of the key questions regarding the case will remain unanswered. For example

In short, at least in the opinion of many, the public will never learn how massively corrupt our system of justice may be, and if a privileged class is in fact held to a different standard of justice, and/or is protected by the powers that be. Nor will the public learn how prurient, immoral and brazen a cross-section of the world's elite may be.

Of course, authorities may, in fact, do their jobs and ultimately disclose the entire scale of Epstein's operation. Prosecutions and plea deals to come could include a "Who's Who" of the world, and expose any government agencies that may have "looked the other way."

At least theoretically, our government could expose a decades-long criminal operation, a revelation that very possibly would change the way millions of people view the U.S. government; not to mention how the public views many powerful VIPs who navigate in the orbit of politicians and policy-makers.

Once upon a time, the number Americans who believed justice would ultimately prevail in a case like Epstein's would probably have filled a good-sized nation. Today, the number who posses this conviction might fill a medium-sized city.

Citizens who doubt the full story of the Epstein saga will ever be revealed have little trouble citing stories that explain their metastasizing skepticism.

For example, plenty of people did notice when Saudi Arabia and its Crown Prince Prince Mohammed bin Salman suffered no adverse consequences following the gruesome murder of columnist Jamal Khashoggi , a murder many people believe the prince ordered.

Others remain befuddled as UK authorities continue to insist that the government of Russia commissioned a hit team that used nerve agents in the assassination attempt of Sergei and Yulia Skripal, this despite the copious number of holes that pockmark the "official" story.

Similarly, the narrative that Syria President Bashar al - Assad "gassed his own people" - a highly questionable proposition to many - has nonetheless been widely accepted as truth, at least by intelligence agencies and a press corps that increasingly accepts official pronouncements as incontrovertible.

[ editor's note: see Caitlin Johnstone's latest on two OPCW whistleblowers whose claims effectively dubunk the narrative]

The aggressive prosecution (persecution) of Julian Assange is another story that disturbs at least some citizens. The fact so few members of the mainstream press have rallied to Assange's defense has only deepened the depression of one-time idealists.

And these examples do not include the most dubious government narrative of them all, the assertion Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction , a false predicate that ultimately caused the death and suffering of millions of people.

Cynics could also point to an investigation that, unlike several of the above examples, did receive incessant press coverage - the story that Russia somehow "rigged" or "hacked" a U.S. presidential election, a conclusion accepted as gospel by most in the mainstream press, but viewed as preposterous by millions of Americans.

In these and other cases, a growing number of citizens have come to believe that official "investigations" and "official findings" are either a sham or intentionally omit details which do not support the desired meme.

It's within this context that millions of Americans have latched onto the Epstein story and the growing conviction that our government (and press corp ) have become more interested in concealing truths than exposing them.

The Epstein story is not just the latest scandal of the week. The number of individuals who could have been involved, or who might have worked to cover-up its existence, almost certainly dwarfs the number implicated in Watergate.

The list of those who might have some knowledge of Epstein's criminal enterprise includes a sitting president, ex-presidents, ex-prime ministers, Justice Department officials, State Department officials, FBI agents, employees of domestic and international intelligence agencies, state prosecutors, local law enforcement, politicians, ex-politicians, lobbyists, titans of industry and finance, CEOs, attorneys, accountants, banks and bankers, celebrities, academics, scientists, political operatives and executives within the Fourth Estate.

Almost five months after Epstein's arrest, one is struck by curious events that have already occurred and by developments yet to occur.

For example, how is it possible that Ghislaine Maxwell - the "Bonnie" to Epstein's "Clyde" - has yet to be charged with any crimes? Or, as far as the public knows, even been questioned by authorities.

Public skepticism about the "investigation" spiked when, five weeks after his arrest, the FBI finally raided Epstein's "Lolita" Island. Epstein's "ranch" in New Mexico has still not been searched.

The public has also received no indication that authorities are, in fact, questioning any of Epstein's many "associates," especially those who may have had sexual contact with girls recruited and groomed by Epstein and Maxwell.

Every person named in court documents or press reports as allegedly or possibly having sex with an underaged girl or young woman at Epstein's bequest has denied the allegations. Which begs the question: Who's telling the truth and who's lying? To form an opinion on this central question, authorities would presumably need to interview anyone with possible knowledge of alleged sexual or criminal acts. Investigators could then seek information that either corroborates or impeaches each person's account. However, evidence is growing that the protocol in a typical "he-said, she-said" investigation is not being followed in the Epstein case. Instead, authorities may have simply accepted as truth the statements of denial issued by powerful public figures .

True or not, many Americans believe the Department of "Justice" will not prosecute (perhaps even question) scores of individuals who may have broken U.S. laws and who may have been victims of a disturbing blackmail operation.

Perhaps authorities have concluded it's better to not know . Perhaps they realize if they interview one suspected "John," they'll have to interview every potential "John." if this number ends up being massive, and includes a Who's Who of our society, important illusions about society's leaders and our system of justice could be shattered.

At its core, the Epstein case will reveal whether government prosecutors and investigators possess the courage and integrity to expose sordid truths about some of the wealthiest, most-connected, powerful people in the world, and perhaps reveal embarrassing truths about our government.

Americans might soon learn what objective is more important to Justice Department officials: Protecting the rich and powerful from the consequences of their behavior, or confirming that a system of justice grounded in trust can still be trusted.

Sadly, many Americans are convinced authorities will not do the right thing.

However, in proving skeptics wrong, authorities would accomplish at least four objectives, all noble. They would punish the guilty. They would provide justice to victims too long ignored. They would deter future Epsteins and future "Johns," especially those unaccustomed to being held accountable for their actions. And, perhaps most importantly, they would allow a ray of sunshine to pierce the shadow of cynicism that's spread across our country.

While such a development might not restore all trust in government, it would be an eye-opening start. For those who believe the moral character of a nation is important, it would send a message that all hope is not lost .

****

Bill Rice, Jr. is a freelance writer in Troy, Alabama. He can be reached by email at [email protected]

[Nov 29, 2019] The only question really is whether he was CIA asset doubling for Mossad, or the other way around.

Epstein murder/suicide was probably the most public elimination of critical witness...
Nov 29, 2019 | www.youtube.com

Matthew Weber , 1 week ago

Read "A Short Course in Secret War"... Epstein was definitely an intelligence asset. Ghislaine Maxwell was obviously his handler. The only question really is whether he was CIA asset doubling for Mossad, or the other way around.

Godwad , 1 week ago

"This Epstein case is probably the most blatant example of a witness being murdered......." Rogan is too high to remember Lee Harvey Oswald.

zack rudinski , 1 week ago

Not reacting to the Epstein case is to give the Government approval for this protocol.

J iKon , 1 week ago

Eddie Bravo puts it the best. "Epstein was suicided."

Salann , 1 week ago

Epstein died to protect Andrew maybe!!??

Ron Heathman , 1 week ago

The Epstein story is all about Robert Maxwell, his daughter and Mossad. It's deep and she is missing.

[Nov 28, 2019] Joe Rogan Experience #1386 - Matt Taibbi

Epstein murder/suicide was probably the most public elimination of critical witness...
Notable quotes:
"... “Biden to me is like having a flashlight with a dying battery and going for a long hike in the woods” - Joe Rogan 😅 1:28:33 ..."
Nov 28, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

HD , Nov 28 2019 19:45 utc | 38

Apologies if someone already posted this but on Nov 16 Joe Rogan and Matt Taibbi discussed the current state of the MSM in a wide-ranging conversation that I think most Barflies will find very interesting:

Joe Rogan Experience #1386 - Matt Taibbi) , Nov 16, 2019

Jeff phillips , 1 week ago

"Censorship is telling a grown man that he can't eat steak, because the baby can't chew it." - Mark Twain

Savannah Thomas , 1 week ago (edited)

“Biden to me is like having a flashlight with a dying battery and going for a long hike in the woods” - Joe Rogan 😅 1:28:33

T B , 1 week ago (edited)

“When the government's boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence.” - Gary Lloyd. We Americans are willingly blind to truth. It'll be the death of us.

Colin Hay , 1 week ago

George Orwell said it best: "If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever."

John Merlino , 1 week ago

Matt Taibbi: "they’re trying to sound like legitimate news, but they’re also completely selling out at the same time " perfectly sums up news outlets today, on both sides.

Tenzin Nordron , 11 hours ago (edited)

When I was a kid, i heard, on live radio broadcast, Oswald shot to death in Dallas Police Station - still think that's a more blatant murder of Witness.

Ricky Milano , 1 week ago

"There isn't the shame of screwing something up like there used to be." - Welcome to Hell everyone, we have jackets!!!

Adrienne Marini , 1 week ago

1:15:32 "There's also people that are like wolves trying to take out that baby joke wandering through the woods." So many good quotes in this podcast.

Major Bloodnok , 6 days ago

"We don't have any institutional respect anymore".. When even the broadsheets knowingly sow falsehoods or subtly mislead the public on a regular basis, you'd better be prepared for the harvest. You never win back respect from someone who's sussed out your con.

[Nov 25, 2019] Epstein and his assistants and friends were running a virtual prostitution and sex trafficking operation that sucked in huge numbers of teenaged girls at varying stages of development.

Nov 25, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

bevin , Nov 23 2019 19:01 utc | 92

"Epstein's blackmailing operation needed very young women. He wouldn't have used any one of them for more than a few years.!!" Jackrabbit@88

Young nubile women. Which means that to call him a pedophile or a person involved in a pedophile ring is simply demagogy. A lie told to attract attention. If the charges made against Epstein were true he will have been guilty of many things but there is no more evidence of pedophilia on his part than there is of cannibalism.

Jen , Nov 23 2019 19:45 utc | 94

Bevin @ 92:

Please stop the quibbling over Epstein being a literal paedophile or not. You are making yourself look obtuse over the fact that he and his assistants and friends were running a virtual prostitution and sex trafficking operation that sucked in huge numbers of teenaged girls at varying stages of development. No-one here takes you seriously on this issue and you only make yourself look more seedy the more you concentrate on the ages of the victims and trying to prove Epstein is not a paedophile. If you have no compassion for the victims who were lured into his web with false offers of money, work or other financial support, then leave the subject of Epstein alone.

bevin , Nov 23 2019 21:43 utc | 95
You are arguing in favour of lynch mob demagogy, Jen. And there is nothing seedier than that. I have a great deal of sympathy for the victims in question. I also have some sympathy for Epstein who seems to have been murdered while society looked the other way saying "served him right, he was a pedophile."

And he wasn't, so far as we know. He was simply a rich man abusing his power over vulnerable people- needy girls and frustrated guilt ridden old men. A very nasty business indeed, to which we can add his apologies for the terrorist zionist state and his support for the US Empire.

But once it becomes accepted that a man called a pedophile can be killed or tortured with impunity we are half way down the road that led to Auschwitz and leads to Gaza. And we can be assured that it will become a regular smear against dissidents-as it was against Assange- that their sexual habits, tastes or behaviour put them beyond the pale.

Most of your comments are sensible and indicative of decency and thoughtfulness on your part, which is why I urge you to be very careful on this and other matters not to follow the bourgeois herd- Bill Clinton, for example is a war criminal and deserving of punishment. But the only fault the bourgeoisie can find with him is that he is sexually promiscuous.

As to the specific charges made against Epstein, they will never be proved, which is probably why he was killed, which was made very much easier when he had been labelled a 'pedophile' and driven out of 'decent society.' Which is itself, if you think about it, a place so sordid-if you want to talk about trafficking look at a fashion house's sweatshops in Bangladesh- that Epstein fitted right in.

bevin , Nov 23 2019 21:56 utc | 96
Here, Jen, is an example of how the attitudes that you defend, and seem to urge others to adopt towards me, play out in real life'
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/11/23/meto-n23.html
Ort , Nov 23 2019 22:15 utc | 97
@ bevin | Nov 23 2019 21:43 utc | 95
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Thanks for this. I share your perspective.

It seems that "celebrity-class" reprehensible creeps are on the ascendancy-- or that may be a perception induced by sensational, febrile Western mass-media coverage of all things reprehensible and creepy. Unfortunately, so is binary thinking.

As it happens, I just watched a recent Rolling Stone "Useful Idiots" video; I'm ambivalent towards hosts Matt Taibbi and Katie Halper, but sympathized with Halper's outburst to the effect that she's getting sick and tired of having to bend over backwards to defensively point out that she's not "for" Trump, not a Trump fan, etc. every time she expresses any point that is arguably in Trump's favor.

I can relate. Epstein induces a similar reaction: even attempts to simply be clear or factual in matters relating to such social monsters provokes (self) righteous outrage.

BTW, I'm also ambivalent towards your comments because they reduce me to the status of virtual "dittohead". ;)

Jen , Nov 24 2019 4:11 utc | 98
Bevin @ 95, 96:

Now you're really sinking into a pile of shit of your own making.

I am referring to the way you quibble over the definition of paedophilia, trying to narrow it down to a purely biologically based definition in comments on previous MoA comments forums, and now you accuse me of lynch mob demagoguery and trying to encourage others to do the same.

If you had only said that you had sympathy for the victims, then we might agree to disagree and let the issue go.

I am not happy that Epstein is dead: he is a victim of his own greed and desire to be someone influential, and he ultimately was a plaything of others for whom he was running his blackmailing scheme and the associated sex trafficking.

You continue to damn yourself by suggesting that "frustrated guilt ridden old men" were also vulnerable and as much victims as the teenage girls were. Did any of these "old" men (Prince Andrew in his 40s at the time, old? - maybe in the head but not chronologically) in their frustration realise they were being manipulated by Epstein and contact the authorities, even though they would have risked their careers and reputations? They had a choice in the way that the teenage girls did not have a choice: they could have chosen not to participate in the activities at Epstein's mansions or in Little St James and walked away.

I do not accuse you or other MoA barflies of such attitudes in the way you accuse me @ 96. This is really low behaviour and you ought to be ashamed of that.

[Nov 24, 2019] Exposing Jeffrey Epstein's international sex trafficking ring

Nov 24, 2019 | www.youtube.com

60 Minutes Australia

The Jeffrey Epstein scandal – Tara Brown reports how a New York billionaire masterminded an international sex trafficking ring of young women, and why wealthy and powerful men, including HRH Prince Andrew, are now implicated in the saga. Subscribe here: http://9Soci.al/chmP50wA97J Full Episodes here http://9Soci.al/sImy50wNiXL

[Nov 23, 2019] Met faces new questions over 'trafficked' teen in Epstein case UK news by Jamie Doward

Notable quotes:
"... "the Met Police has refused to answer detailed questions about the allegations and whether they ever spoke to Epstein, his friend Ghislaine Maxwell, Prince Andrew or anyone from the royal household". ..."
"... The duke's decision to step down from public duties last week came after a raft of companies and charities sought to distance themselves from him following his disastrous interview. It is thought that both the Queen and Prince Charles were instrumental in forcing the duke to stand down. Prince Charles is reportedly returning to the UK on Monday after a royal tour, when he is expected to hold crisis talks with his brother. ..."
Nov 23, 2019 | www.theguardian.com

Victims' tsar to query Force's decision not to act over Prince Andrew claims

The Met has said that its investigators reviewed all 'available evidence' in relation to disputed claims that a 17-year-old was 'forced to have sex with Prince Andrew'. Photograph: Kirsty O'Connor/PA The Victims' Commissioner is demanding that the Metropolitan Police explain its decision not to pursue a full investigation into claims a teenager was trafficked to the UK to have sex with Prince Andrew .

The Observer understands that Dame Vera Baird QC, a former solicitor general and chair of the Board of the Association of Police and Crime Commissioners, has taken a close interest in the allegations, first examined by Scotland Yard in 2015.

Baird, who has focused on protecting victims of sexual and domestic abuse throughout her career, is currently observing election purdah and cannot speak to the media.

However, prior to the election she made her views known to a victims' rights campaigner , telling him that she would be requesting a meeting with the Met once purdah was over.

"Before the election was called I spoke at length with the Victims' Commissioner and we both find it extraordinary that this matter was not proceeded with," Harry Fletcher said.

The Met has said that its investigators reviewed all "available evidence" after receiving a complaint relating to claims that were made in court documents. It was alleged that in 2001 a 17-year-old, now known to be Virginia Roberts, was "forced to have sex with Prince Andrew", purportedly at the London home of socialite Ghislaine Maxwell, the one-time girlfriend of the late disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein . His victims are now bringing claims for damages against his estate.

It is understood that lawyers for Roberts also independently contacted the force in 2016. But the Met chose not to pursue a full investigation.

Channel 4 News reported in August that "the Met Police has refused to answer detailed questions about the allegations and whether they ever spoke to Epstein, his friend Ghislaine Maxwell, Prince Andrew or anyone from the royal household".

How seriously the Met took the claims is expected to form a key part of a BBC Panorama investigation into the Epstein scandal which will include an interview with Roberts and is due to be broadcast in December.

The Duke of York denies having sex with Roberts. In his Newsnight television interview he said he did not recall having ever met her.

But a photo of him with his arm around Roberts's waist has been widely circulated. There are claims the photo is fake. The duke says he cannot remember a picture being taken when he was in Maxwell's house.

It is believed that lawyers for Virginia Roberts Giuffre, above, contacted the Metropolitan police in 2016.

"You would expect the Crown Prosecution Service to have provided pre-investigative advice in this matter," said Fletcher, an adviser to Plaid Cymru and several victims' charities. "It needs to be confirmed whether this happened."

A spokeswoman for the CPS said its lawyers have "confirmed that we cannot comment on any input into investigations where persons have not been charged".

In a statement the Met confirmed that it had received an allegation of "non-recent" trafficking for sexual exploitation. "Having closely examined the available evidence, the decision was made that this would not progress to a full investigation," the Met said. Given the heightened interest in the case, the Met confirmed it had revisited the decision and concluded that it was the correct one. "Therefore no further action is being taken," it said.

But speculation about what went on at Maxwell's home is unlikely to die down. Lawyers bringing civil claims against the Epstein estate are looking to subpoena the duke, obliging him to provide testimony under oath as a witness. The duke has confirmed that he would be prepared to help law enforcement agencies but has given no commitment to cooperate with any civil actions.

The duke's decision to step down from public duties last week came after a raft of companies and charities sought to distance themselves from him following his disastrous interview. It is thought that both the Queen and Prince Charles were instrumental in forcing the duke to stand down. Prince Charles is reportedly returning to the UK on Monday after a royal tour, when he is expected to hold crisis talks with his brother.

Prince Andrew UK news The Guardian

[Nov 07, 2019] Note on the the degradation of the elite.

Notable quotes:
"... There is a collection of Democratic and Republican politicians and think tanks funded by various corporations and governments and bureaucrats in the government agencies mostly all devoted to the Empire, but also willing to stab each other in the back to obtain power. They don't necessarily agree on policy details. ..."
"... They don't oppose Trump because Trump is antiwar. Trump isn't antiwar. Or rather, he is antiwar for three minutes here and there and then he advocates for war crimes. ..."
"... He is a fairly major war criminal based on his policies in Yemen. But they don't oppose him for that either or they would have been upset by Obama. They oppose Trump because he is incompetent, unpredictable and easily manipulated. And worst of all, he doesn't play the game right, where we pretend we intervene out of noble humanitarian motives. This idiot actually say he wants to keep Syrian oil fields and Syria's oil fields aren't significant to anyone outside Syria. ..."
"... Our policies are influenced in rather negative ways by various foreign countries, but would be embarrassed to go to the extremes one regularly sees from liberals talking about Russian influence ..."
Nov 07, 2019 | crookedtimber.org

Donald 11.07.19 at 4:37 am 64

" In a sense, the current NeoMcCartyism (Russophobia, Sinophobia) epidemic in the USA can partially be viewed as a yet another sign of the crisis of neoliberalism: a desperate attempt to patch the cracks in the neoliberal façade using scapegoating -- creation of an external enemy to project the problems of the neoliberal society.

I would add another, pretty subjective measure of failure: the degradation of the elite. When you look at Hillary, Trump, Biden, Warren, Harris, etc, you instantly understand what I am talking about. They all look like the second-rate, if not the third rate politicians. Also, the Epstein case was pretty symbolic."

I had decided to stay on the sidelines for the most part after making a few earlier comments, but I liked this summary, except I would give Warren more credit. She is flawed like most politicians, but she has made some of the right enemies within the Democratic Party.

On Trump and " the Deep State", there is no unified Deep State. There is a collection of Democratic and Republican politicians and think tanks funded by various corporations and governments and bureaucrats in the government agencies mostly all devoted to the Empire, but also willing to stab each other in the back to obtain power. They don't necessarily agree on policy details.

They don't oppose Trump because Trump is antiwar. Trump isn't antiwar. Or rather, he is antiwar for three minutes here and there and then he advocates for war crimes.

He is a fairly major war criminal based on his policies in Yemen. But they don't oppose him for that either or they would have been upset by Obama. They oppose Trump because he is incompetent, unpredictable and easily manipulated. And worst of all, he doesn't play the game right, where we pretend we intervene out of noble humanitarian motives. This idiot actually say he wants to keep Syrian oil fields and Syria's oil fields aren't significant to anyone outside Syria.

But yes, scapegoating is a big thing with liberals now. It's pathetic. Our policies are influenced in rather negative ways by various foreign countries, but would be embarrassed to go to the extremes one regularly sees from liberals talking about Russian influence .

For the most part, if we have a horrible political culture nearly all the blame for that is homegrown.

Donald 11.07.19 at 4:40 am (no link)

Sigh. Various typos above. Here is one --

Our policies are influenced in rather negative ways by various foreign countries, but would be embarrassed to go to the extremes one regularly sees from liberals talking about Russian influence.
--

I meant to say I would be embarrassed to go to the extremes one regularly sees from liberals talking about Russian influence.

[Nov 07, 2019] Claims Royals 'pressured' U.S. network to drop Epstein story Nine News Australia - YouTube

Nov 05, 2019 | www.youtube.com

Leaked footage released by conservative web site Project Veritas of U.S. ABC journalist Amy Robach's off-air rant has led to allegations that the Royals pressured the television network to drop a story regarding Jeffrey Epstein. Subscribe: https://bit.ly/2noaGhv Get more breaking news at: https://bit.ly/2nobVgF

[Nov 03, 2019] Jeffrey Epstein's Accused Madam Attended Secretive Jeff Bezos 'Writer's Retreat' Last Year

Nov 03, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Last year there was a curious attendee at Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos' annual writer's retreat; Jeffrey Epstein's alleged 'madam,' Ghislaine Maxwell .

The daughter of an accused Mossad agent who died under mysterious circumstances, Maxwell was accused of participating in Jeffrey Epstein's sexual grooming and abuse of underage girls. She was confirmed to have attended at least one (and possibly three) of the secretive Bezos get-togethers, according to VICE .

Two Campfire 2018 attendees independently confirmed to Motherboard that Maxwell attended the exclusive retreat that year. One of the sources maintained that Maxwell had attended three Campfires including 2018 , but that Maxwell was not an attendee at Campfire 2019 held in early October. Campfire 2018 took place shortly before a Miami Herald investigation resurfaced Epstein's crimes and Maxwell's alleged links to them, which eventually led to new charges against Epstein. - VICE

Maxwell was accompanied to Campfire by tech CEO and Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member Scott Borgerson - who denied in August that he and Maxwell are romantically linked, or that she was hiding out at his "secluded oceanfront property" in New England - as reported by the Daily Mail .

What is Campfire?

According to the report, it's an " all-expenses-paid retreat courtesy of Bezos and Amazon that is completely off the record for attendees, who often bring their spouses and partners on the free trip." It was started in 2009.

The secretive conclaves have had virtually no press coverage (aside from a 2014 New York Times article), and has "largely remained under the radar ," reports VICE - which notes that Maxwell's attendance "further illustrates the connections that Epstein and Maxwell maintained to the wealthy elite."

Tech moguls , presidents , well-known actors, and Prince Andrew all came into their orbit even after Epstein's misdeeds and Maxwell's alleged role first came to light. In fact, a secretive 2011 dinner in Long Beach, California attended by Bezos and other tech CEOs was also attended by Epstein , less than two years after he served time for underage sex crimes.

Maxwell, who has never been charged or arrested and has only faced allegations in civil lawsuits , has always denied any wrongdoing or involvement with Epstein's crimes and has made few public appearances since they first surfaced in media reports. - VICE

Maxwell is currently missing. Aside from a strange and allegedly photoshopped photo-shoot of her having a burger and milkshake at a California "In-N-Out" (while reading a book about the CIA), her whereabouts are unknown.


wolf pup , 4 hours ago link

Look at her familial background. Her sister, and her career. Her father. Deeply inside CFR territory, as deeply as it gets. Her sister Christine's company (after she'd created and sold Magellan) was Chiliad. You've heard of it? Real time surveillance at epic levels, purchased by governments and Intelligence agencies around the planet and iirc she sold it recently, too. Chiliad was there before most others and this family could swing a deep escape for Everyone. Lol from Eps to Ghislane or anyone.
Inside. Big time inside.

Totally_Disillusioned , 4 hours ago link

Bezos typifies an individual who on their own are weak and usually not very successful in relationships. As a youth was viewed as geeky, strange not fitting in well with other students. We find Bezos who uses his money to become more than life-like with the extreme training and steroids.

He's power hungry and a ruthless doggedness in business that built Amazon. Despite his wealth, his wife couldn't remain in the marriage for reasons undisclosed.

My intuition is that while Bezos may have been weird as a youth and not very popular, his power and wealth gained in later life made the world of global trafficking, illicit drugs and pedophilia a favorite pastime. Just my intuition, but he certainly fits the picture of those elite who have reached the level through their wealth of no rules..

NO rules. There's no surprise for me that Bezos chummed around with Epstein and Maxwell.

Mithera , 3 hours ago link

Behind every great fortune...lies a great crime....

Dragon HAwk , 4 hours ago link

The NSA knows Everything, except of course for High Level Crimes. By Important People.

Dutchdope , 4 hours ago link

She objected to the release of the first batch of court documents shortly before Jeff being broken from jail.

So if her lawyers can write a letter, and she is still a subject in this "so important matter", why can't she be found?

Totally_Disillusioned , 4 hours ago link

She'd "found" and I believe 'kept". The question is by WHOM and WHY?

[Nov 02, 2019] These Scrubbed Reports Reveal New Secrets Into the Prince Andrew-Jeffrey Epstein Relationship by Whitney Webb

Notable quotes:
"... Correction | An earlier version of this report incorrectly stated the name of the artist that accompanied Prince Andrew to Los Angeles in 2000 as Bruce, as opposed to Brett, Livingstone Strong. ..."
Oct 21, 2019 | www.unz.com

Several now-censored reports from the 1990s and early 2000s reveal that Prince Andrew’s involvement with the minors exploited by Jeffrey Epstein is greater than previously believed.

While the Jeffrey Epstein scandal has largely faded from media coverage in the United States, it has continued to attract attention abroad, particularly in the United Kingdom in connection with Epstein’s long-standing association with Prince Andrew, the Duke of York and the Queen’s son.

The Epstein-Prince Andrew relationship has long been a fascination of the U.K. press, with numerous articles dating back to the early 2000s detailing the most outrageous aspects of their relationship. Prior to that, Epstein had also garnered attention from U.K. newspapers regarding his association with Ghislaine Maxwell, whose reputation in the U.K. is rather notorious, as was that of her father, Robert Maxwell.

Yet, since Epstein’s arrest in July, many of these older articles on Epstein and Maxwell, as well as those focusing on the Epstein-Prince Andrew relationship, have disappeared from the archives of several prominent U.K. media outlets that reported on these relationships years ago.

Several of these articles, though largely scrubbed from the internet, were recently obtained by MintPress and a review of their contents makes the likely motive behind their disappearance clear: several articles not only reference Epstein’s connection to both U.S. and Israeli intelligence years before the first investigation into Epstein’s exploitation of minors had even begun, but also reveal surprising aspects of Prince Andrew’s involvement with Epstein that strongly suggest that the Prince partook in illicit sexual activities with minors to a much greater extent than has previously been reported.

New, disturbing details of Prince Andrew’s early links to Epstein

Since Epstein was arrested the first time in 2006 and even more so after he was arrested again this past July, those named in press reports as his associates have made every effort to distance themselves from the accused pedophile and sex trafficker. For this reason, press reports that discuss Epstein long before there was any hint of the larger scandal are particularly important for understanding the true nature of Epstein’s past associations with the rich and powerful.

In light of what is now known about Epstein’s sexual blackmail operation and sex trafficking activities, several reports from the late 1990s and early 2000s contain details long since forgotten regarding Epstein’s relationship with Prince Andrew.

One particularly censored article that appeared in London’s Evening Standard in January 2001, for instance, gives several indications regarding the apparent entrapment of Prince Andrew as part of Epstein’s sexual blackmail operation, which is now known to have been connected to intelligence — specifically Israeli military intelligence, according to recent revelations in the case.

The article, written by Evening Standard journalist Nigel Rosser, quotes a personal friend of both Ghislaine Maxwell and Epstein as saying the following about their friendship with Prince Andrew:

A screenshot from a now-deleted 2001 Evening Standard article

A screenshot from a now-deleted 2001 Evening Standard article

Another friend of Maxwell and Epstein made similar claims that appear in the same article:

A screenshot from the same Evening Standard article

A screenshot from the same Evening Standard article

The article further describes Epstein and Prince Andrew as having a “curious symbiotic relationship,” adding that “wherever Ghislaine is seen with Prince Andrew, Epstein isn’t far behind.”

These quotes are particularly telling now that it is a matter of record that Epstein was seeking out rich and powerful individuals and entrapping them with minors for the purpose of blackmail. The fact that personal friends of Epstein and Maxwell at the time openly stated that their “manipulative” relationship with Prince Andrew was “very premeditated” and “probably being done for Epstein” strongly suggests that not only was the Prince entrapped, but that this type of entrapment activity was known to occur among those who were close to Epstein and Maxwell at the time.

Prince Andrew — as a member of the Royal Family, which is very protective of its social reputation, as well as the U.K. envoy for investment and trade — certainly fits into the category of people that Epstein entrapped on behalf of intelligence: rich, politically powerful, wary of damaging their social reputation, and thus susceptible to blackmail.

Notably, the year this article was published (2001), is the same year that Epstein’s most well-known accuser and victim, Virginia Giuffre (then Virginia Roberts), claims that she was introduced to Prince Andrew by Maxwell and Epstein and forced to have sex with the Prince on at least three occasions. She has also claimed that Epstein would subsequently instruct her to describe the encounters in order to learn compromising information about the Prince’s sexual habits and preferences. Her claims regarding Epstein’s trafficking of her, specifically to Prince Andrew, have since been largely corroborated by photographic evidence, flight logs, and public records.

This undated photo released by Virginia Giuffre shows Prince Andrew posing with a young Giuffre, Ghislaine Maxwell is shown standing in the background

This undated photo released by Virginia Giuffre shows Prince Andrew posing with a young Giuffre, Ghislaine Maxwell is shown standing in the background

While it appears that Prince Andrew was deliberately entrapped as part of Epstein’s intelligence-linked sexual blackmail operation, the article further suggests that Andrew’s involvement with the minors exploited by Epstein went far beyond his alleged three encounters with Giuffre.

Rosser quotes a friend of Prince Andrew’s ex-wife Sara Ferguson as saying that Andrew “used to be smart when he came back from abroad…He’s started having a girl massage him…He even travels abroad with his own massage mattress.”

During this same time period, Epstein and Maxwell also introduced Prince Andrew to “sex aid entrepreneur” Christine Drangsholt during a trip to Mar-a-Lago and describes Andrew traveling to Los Angeles, where he was seen “flirting…with a group of young girls,” and to Phuket, Thailand where he “wandered around the sex bars in the area’s red light district.” The Los Angeles trip saw Andrew accompanied by artist and close friend of Michael Jackson, Brett Livingstone Strong, and Ghislaine Maxwell accompanied Andrew to Thailand.

The mentions of massages from a “girl” and Andrew traveling around with Maxwell and Epstein while bringing along “his own massage mattress,” are particularly striking given what is now known about Epstein’s sex trafficking and sexual blackmail operation. Court documents, police reports, and other evidence have since made it clear that “massage” was the code word Epstein and his co-conspirators used for sex with the minors he exploited and massage tables and sex toys were frequently present together in the rooms of his various residences where he forced underage girls to engage in sexual acts with him and others.

Most notable of all is the fact that claims of Prince Andrew receiving “massages” from girls during his trips with Epstein and Maxwell were published in January 2001, at least two months before Virginia Giuffre states that she was first introduced to and forced to have sex with the Prince in March of 2001. This means that the claims of Epstein- and Maxwell-brokered “massages” refer to at least one other girl, strongly suggesting that Andrew’s involvement with minors exploited by Epstein is greater than has been recently acknowledged.

Other recently reported information has added to the likelihood that Prince Andrew engaged in illicit activities with more minors than Virginia Giuffre. For instance, the FBI recently expanded its probe into Epstein’s sex trafficking network to include a specific focus on the Prince’s role. The FBI has claimed that they are reviewing claims regarding Prince Andrew made by other Epstein victims aside from Giuffre, but did not specify the nature of those claims.

Ghislaine Maxwell’s open secret

Media reports cite Prince Andrew and Ghislaine Maxwell as having developed a close relationship at least by February 2000, when Andrew had spent a week at Epstein’s controversial New York penthouse at 9 East 71st Street. One report published in 2000 by London’s Sunday Times claimed that the two were introduced by Andrew’s ex-wife Sarah Ferguson, often referred to as “Fergie” in the press, and further claims that this introduction had taken place several years prior. Epstein is alleged to have first been introduced to Andrew via Maxwell in 1999.

A screenshot from a now-deleted 2000 Sunday Times article

A screenshot from a now-deleted 2000 Sunday Times article

Years after this introduction was made, Jeffrey Epstein would provide financial assistance to Ferguson at Prince Andrew’s behest by paying Ferguson’s former personal assistant £15,000, allegedly in order to allow for “a wider restructuring of Sarah’s £5 million debts to take place,” according to The Telegraph.

Oddly, by April of that year, Maxwell and Prince Andrew were spotted by their fellow diners at a posh New York restaurant holding hands, prompting both the Prince and Maxwell to claim that their relationship was merely “platonic.” However, a separate report from 2007 in the Evening Standard refers to Maxwell as one of Prince Andrew’s former girlfriends.

Within a year of their close relationship having become public, Andrew and Ghislaine were reported to have gone on eight different vacations together, of which Epstein accompanied them for five. Andrew also brought Maxwell and Epstein to celebrate the Queen’s birthday in 2000 as his personal guests.

Several reports from this period also provide interesting insight into Maxwell’s business activities and private life. One article from 2000, published in London’s Sunday Times, states that “for all her high-profile appearances on Manhattan’s A-List merry-go-round, she [Maxwell] is secretive to the point of paranoia and her business affairs are deeply mysterious.” It goes on to say that Maxwell “has been building a business empire as opaque as father’s” — referencing Robert Maxwell’s business empire, which included multiple front companies for Israeli intelligence — and adds that “her office in Manhattan refuses to confirm even the nature or the name of her business.”

On her relationship with Epstein, it states that “he’s always kept her secrets, no one knows what their relationship is really about.” An article from 2001 claims that Maxwell’s Manhattan lifestyle, her New York residence and her vehicles were all purchased by Epstein and that she was employed as his “consultant” while also acting as his social organizer and interior designer.

One report on Maxwell — which was published by the Evening Standard in 2003, years before Epstein was first publicly revealed to be exploiting minors — contains very telling information about Maxwell’s work for Epstein. It states “Ghislaine has risen, largely thanks to property developer Epstein bankrolling her, to become queen of the billionaires’ social circuit,” adding that “Jeffrey only likes billionaires or very young women and uses Ghislaine as his social pimp.” It then discusses “rumors” that Maxwell was hosting “bizarre parties at her house to which she invites a dozen or so young girls, then brandishes a whip and teaches them how to improve their sexual techniques.”

Given what is now known about Maxwell’s role as Epstein’s procurer of underage girls and her role in “training” them in sexual techniques, this passage — again from 2003 — reveals that Epstein’s and Maxwell’s dark acts were pretty much an open secret for years prior to Epstein’s first arrest in 2007.

Jeffrey Epstein, spy and property mogul?

One recurring theme in many of these older reports from the U.K. is their mention of Epstein’s alleged ties to both U.S. and Israeli intelligence. For instance, Nigel Rosser’s 2001 article contains the following passage:

A screenshot from a now-deleted 2001 Evening Standard article

A screenshot from a now-deleted 2001 Evening Standard article

Another articl e, published in 1992 in the U.K.’s Mail on Sunday, describes “rumors” that linked Epstein to the CIA and the Mossad and claimed that he had worked as “a corporate spy hired by big businesses to uncover money that had been embezzled.” In addition, an article published in 2000 in London’s Sunday Times also states of Epstein that “nobody knows whether he’s a concert pianist, property developer, CIA agent, a math teacher or a member of Mossad.”

A screenshot from a now-deleted 2000 Sunday Times article

A screenshot from a now-deleted 2000 Sunday Times article

Notably, these rumors of Epstein’s links to intelligence have since been confirmed. The CIA-Mossad links to Epstein were detailed in a recent MintPress investigative series and several mainstream media reports have corroborated Epstein’s time as a self-described “financial bounty hunter” who hunted down embezzled funds and also hid stolen money for powerful people and governments.

Another odd commonality among these now-scrubbed articles on Epstein from the 1990s and early 2000s is that the majority of them refer to Epstein not as a “financier” or “hedge fund manager,” as has become common in more recent reports, but as a “New York property developer” and even as a “property mogul.”

For instance, the 2001 Evening Standard article introduces Epstein as an “immensely powerful New York property developer and financier” with an “intensively secret business life” who “owns properties all over the country [the U.S.].” It also states that Epstein had made millions from “his business links with the likes of Bill Gates, Donald Trump and Ohio billionaire Leslie Wexner” during the 1990s and beyond.

A screenshot from a now-deleted 2001 Evening Standard article

A screenshot from a now-deleted 2001 Evening Standard article

Wexner, in addition to his other close financial ties to Epstein, was involved in several Manhattan real estate deals with Epstein and Epstein’s brother Mark while Donald Trump was then best known for his career as a New York property developer and real estate mogul. Trump is also cited in a separate article from January 2001 as being good friends with both Prince Andrew and his ex-wife. In addition, this article’s claim regarding Epstein’s most notable “business links” in 2001 contradicts Bill Gates’ recent assertions that he never had any business relationship with Epstein and did not meet with him until 2013. Notably, Gates’ former chief scientific adviser was recently named as an alternate executor for Epstein’s will and Gates appears on the flight logs of Epstein’s now-infamous private plane. Gates, one of the world’s richest men, has since claimed that he only had met with Epstein in order to meet other wealthy people and to discuss “philanthropy.”

Another article in the Evening Standard refers to Epstein as a “property mogul.” Several other articles — such as a 2000 article from Australia’s Sunday Mail, a 1995 article from Australia’s Sun Herald, and a 1995 article from the U.K.’s Mail on Sunday — also refer to Epstein as chiefly a “property developer.” Interestingly, references to Epstein as a property developer continued to occur (though less frequently) after his first arrest in 2007 and then again after his recent arrest this past July, yet oddly only in non-U.S. newspapers. Another article states that Ghislaine Maxwell had sold property on Epstein’s behalf and was also involved in the New York real estate market.

While several articles in the early 2000s describe Epstein as both “property developer” and “financier,” even earlier articles about Epstein refer to him exclusively as a “property developer.” For instance, the 1992 article in the Mail on Sunday cited above referred to Epstein as “a shadowy, almost maverick New York property developer” and noted that, even then, Epstein appeared “to have an inexhaustible supply of money and yet no one seems able to answer the question of precisely what the source.”

As will be revealed in an upcoming MintPress investigative series, these references allude to Epstein’s shady business activities in the New York and Palm Beach real estate markets from the mid-1980s to the late-1990s that were used to launder massive amounts of money for organized crime and intelligence. It is likely for this reason that Epstein’s real estate activities during this period have been so deliberately ignored by the U.S. press, even though other aspects of his financial activities were heavily scrutinized in recent months.

Indeed, in examining Epstein’s involvement in real estate markets, particularly in New York, it becomes clear that those activities have no shortage of controversial tie-ins to the current U.S. presidential administration as well as major New York power players involved in suspect financial activity immediately prior to the September 11 attacks as well as the 2008 financial crisis. All of those connections and more will be explored in MintPress’ upcoming investigative series on the financial crimes of Jeffrey Epstein and their broader implications.

Correction | An earlier version of this report incorrectly stated the name of the artist that accompanied Prince Andrew to Los Angeles in 2000 as Bruce, as opposed to Brett, Livingstone Strong.

(Republished from Mint Press News by permission of author or representative)


Curmudgeon , says: October 15, 2019 at 8:28 pm GMT

Given that the thoroughly despicable Alan Dershowitz, who was also accused by Giuffre, had his lawyers combing through emails between Roberts/Giuffre, and found emails in which she stated she didn't know who Dershowitz was, this appears to be little more than another shakedown.

Until someone comes up with a photo of Andrew boinking Roberts, there is no reason to believe her.
This long winded column is not about "reports" its about newspaper article speculation.

Call me naive, but it seems to me that with Andrew's connections, this bimbo would have met with an accident by the time she started in on Maxwell being a procurer.

I've had my picture take with famous people, it doesn't mean any sexual relations occurred.

Rabbitnexus , says: October 16, 2019 at 10:05 am GMT
@Curmudgeon Naive and ostrich like I'd say.

I've been around, travelled a bit and lived on the streets for a few years many years back and even I had met someone who was a victim of Epstein as a young girl.

I did not realise it was him she was talking about until recently but it all falls into place now.

Andrew's association with Epstein in itself and the proven lies being told about it are enough to show his guilt.

You believe whatever makes you feel good but not only was Epstein a pedo blackmailer and well known as such for many years you can use your own eyes to see the body on the Gurney is not Epstein by a wide margin.

Not surprisingly he has been spotted back on his island actually since his alleged suicide.

He is too valuable to the intel agencies which use him to be allowed to die or get locked up.

eah , says: October 16, 2019 at 10:17 am GMT
I found this "LOL" funny:

For instance, the FBI recently expanded its probe into Epstein's sex trafficking network to include a specific focus on the Prince's role.

The FBI has claimed that they are reviewing claims regarding Prince Andrew made by other Epstein victims aside from Giuffre, but did not specify the nature of those claims.

Yes, I'm sure the FBI, the same utterly compromised organization that was so complicit in the Trump/Russia coup/hoax, is working very hard to investigate the Epstein case.

nietzsche1510 , says: October 16, 2019 at 10:58 am GMT
the other chapter of prince Andrew's thing is that he is an MI6 guy: MI6, CIA, Mossad, they are all the same colonized bodies of the "chosen".
Anonymous [648] Disclaimer , says: October 16, 2019 at 11:29 am GMT
@Curmudgeon If the email report is true, it's more likely she didn't know who Dershowitz was at the time she was forced to have sex with him than her making it up.

As one of Epstein's chief advisors going back 25 years, one would assume Dershowitz was intimately aware of if not guiding Epstein's espionage on behalf of Mossad.

Moreover, Fox News continues to rely on Dershowitz for spin and so much so as to presumptively implicate Fox News as a limited hangout for Mega and Israeli intelligence in the ongoing cover up.

Sean , says: October 16, 2019 at 11:38 am GMT
@Curmudgeon Giuffre, said she had sex with Andrew in Britain, but Andy could have easily and perfectly legally had sex with younger (and much better looking) girls than the at least 17 year old Giuffre in Britain.

Andrew does not particularly like young girls, when he was young himself he went for much older women.

His wife Sarah Ferguson and American girlfriend Koo Stark were both older.

Andrew has been tabloid fodder, but he is not and never was a person of influence even by the standards of the almost entirely ceremonial royal family.

I think he was good PR for Epstein.

Andrew being seen with Epstein after his conviction is difficult to explain if Andy was some kind of agent of influence asset for Epstein's putative organisation.

Andy has been discredited by not immediately dropping him.

Jeff Stryker , says: October 16, 2019 at 11:43 am GMT
@Sick of Orcs Where were the underage girl's parents? Do you think Prince Andrew's daughter could be flown off from her high school to some Caribbean Island to be passed around? Or Epstein?

Why is it that these white girls are in a position where they can be exploited like this?

How can some old pervert show up at a public high school and start recruiting white girls for his sexual pyramid/bribery scam?

Why are underage white girls so sexually sophisticated at age 16?

Why are white girls willing to do this?

What backgrounds did they come from?

Sean , says: October 16, 2019 at 11:58 am GMT
@Rabbitnexus Have you been reading Stephen Fry's memoirs? At the kind of small schools the Royals went to there was none of that going on for anyone,certainly not them.

Andy was rumoured in upper class circles to have went gay for a while after his divorce though.

BTW the photo of Andy with Guiffre and Ghislaine Maxwell also in the shot was taken at Maxwell's central London house.

Guiffre was 17 years at least as she now admits, so there was no crime in (16 year old is the age of consent) Britain even if he had been fucking her brains out.
So even if he had film, where was the blackmail?

Bruno , says: October 16, 2019 at 12:04 pm GMT
For people who speak French, it is very interesting to read Gerard Fauré book and liste to his interviews :

He's father was a physician and sub-direction of WHealthOrg and he describes paedophilia, prostitution, drug and trafficking with political and media elites.

It's very stunning.

https://rmc.bfmtv.com/mediaplayer/video/le-grand-oral-de-gerard-faure-ancien-dealer-de-drogue-1511-1117556.html

Gordo , says: October 16, 2019 at 12:20 pm GMT

Why are white girls willing to do this?

You are edging close to blaming the victims.

Not that that is unfashionable.

melpol , says: October 16, 2019 at 12:37 pm GMT
Rare diamonds and precious gems were provided to those who came to Epstein's homes.

It is a closely guarded secret of what Epstein got in return.

The young hookers were just a false flag to hide the important transactions.

Young hookers are easily obtained by the poorest workers.

Anonymous [648] Disclaimer , says: October 16, 2019 at 12:55 pm GMT
@nietzsche1510 When you consider Chabad's overt hostility toward non-Jews, to the extent non-Jews are dogmatically said to have no souls and should be exterminated, save only so many as are needed to serve the Jew, it follows their presence within the CIA, FBI, State Dept, etc is presumptively as dangerous a security breach as having Capone's men in the Chicago police or serving as judges.

Any sane investigative heuristic would assume their guilt within the relevant reference class of Israeli espionage and Jewish criminality.

The rest is eyewash.

Kolya Krassotkin , says: October 16, 2019 at 12:55 pm GMT
@Sean Andrew has the ken of a fruit fly.

As a member of the Royal family he should have known that he had wealth, power and privilege but not nearly enough not to exercise great care in picking his friends.

They're the royal family, for God's sake.

They're expected to be predictable, traditional and stodgy.

Jeff Stryker , says: October 16, 2019 at 12:56 pm GMT
@Gordo No, I am questioning the entire framework around them.

Parents.

Society. Economics.

Cultural mores.

Why is it so easy for some old pervert to pass the word that he is willing to pay a few lousy bucks (Like $300 even though he is a billionaire) and half a high school's tenth grade girls will rush over to his house for a huge orgy session.

Why are they prepared to do these things?

And why do they appear to working class white girls? Not Jews.

Not Asian girls.

Not Muslim girls.

Nope, it was white Gentile girls.

And how are they so sexually sophisticated at the age of 15 or 16?

Is it biological? Are white girls simply more inclined to do sexual acts for money at an early age?

Is it economics? Psychology?

Sick of Orcs , says: October 16, 2019 at 1:05 pm GMT

BTW the photo of Andy with Guiffre and Ghislaine Maxwell also in the shot was taken at Maxwell's central London house.

Guiffre was 17 years at least as she now admits, so there was no crime in (16 year old is the age of consent) Britain even if he had been fucking her brains out.

Randy Andy denied there was any sex, so your legal strategery is not available to him.

Besides, the optics of that photo are disastrous, and well-deserved.

Harbinger , says: October 16, 2019 at 1:08 pm GMT
@Gordo

"You are edging close to blaming the victims."

Jeff Stryker makes an incredibly good and valid point that needs addressing.
If anything, the Epstein case, not only promotes Jewish predation upon the non Jews, but the moral and ethical decline of the west.
The 60's saw that begin.

Young women, even from poor working class families were still taught to have manners and be chaste.

Fathers were incredibly protective over them.

That all changed and we can certainly blame cultural Marxism which obliterated our cultures.

And we can also blame the rise of power within woman and ultimately the rise of single mothers, who see their daughter as 'best girl friends'.

They go out, together, on the hunt for men, mother in her mid thirties, dressed the same as her daughter and the daughter 17/18 trying to solicit sex.

I was out on the weekend, with friends, after a party, in a nightclub, being approached by a 20 year old.

Her mother was there and then they both had an argument with one another, because the mother also showed interest.

I quickly left as I had no interest from the start.

The west is in a moral and ethical, rapid state of decline.

eah , says: October 16, 2019 at 1:10 pm GMT
@Sean Your comment is rather absurd -- "Andy" -- what, are you on a first name basis with the useless mother fucker? -- almost from the moment I saw the foto reproduced here, I felt "Prince Andrew" was a lying weasel -- here is the only thing I could possibly say/ask that is even slightly in his favor: is he really so fucking stupid that he would allow such a foto to be taken? -- but the answer to that question is probably 'yes'.
anonymous [403] Disclaimer , says: October 16, 2019 at 1:46 pm GMT
It's not clear what value Andrew had.

If it's a spy operation then what sort of info could he provide? For blackmail what sort of policies could he affect? Perhaps Epstein liked hobnobbing with a 'prince'.

In this case this person is hardly different from the thousands of sex-tourists going to places like Thailand looking to obtain cheap and often underage sex.

He's just got a title, that's all.

The entire British royal family are just a clown show anyway.

Nothing's sadder than a dumb Jew , says: October 16, 2019 at 2:28 pm GMT
The enduring mystery of Epstein's life is how anybody managed to call him a "hedge fund manager" with a straight face.

He was so blatantly full of shit.

Actual investment professionals were left speechless by his make-believe bafflegab strategies.

Hedge.

He couldn't tell you what Black-Scholes is if his 3:15 dick massage depended on it.

He wouldn't know a Gaussian copula if it copulated with him.

The suggestion that an autodidact's knack for Algebra II & Trig and maybe AP Calculus prepared him for securities analysis only goes to show how stupid CIA thinks you are.

eah , says: October 16, 2019 at 2:41 pm GMT
@Harbinger Jeff Stryker makes an incredibly good and valid point that needs addressing.

And your comment is incredibly dumb, because in this context his "point" is irrelevant -- Epstein was accused of statutory sexual crimes -- in the case of statutory crimes, there is no such thing as "consent" on the part of the victim -- it's simply against the law (for good reason) to engage in such acts with females who are underage -- everything else, eg whether 'the west is in a moral and ethical, rapid state of decline' or not, is a matter for another discussion.

Chet Roman , says: October 16, 2019 at 2:56 pm GMT
@Jeff Stryker Read Whitney Webb's excellent four part series and most of your questions will be answered.

Epstein and his coreligionist, Maxwell, preyed on young goyim females who were troubled, poor, came from broken homes or just naive.

If you can't understand how a multi-millionaire could tempt poor young girls after reading Webb's articles then it's a willful ignorance.

Jeff Stryker , says: October 16, 2019 at 2:59 pm GMT
@Nothing's sadder than a dumb Jew Even as a predator, he wasn't very intelligent.

I lived in the Philippines at a time when a few sophisticated child predator operations were busted.

Epstein was sort of a dumb ass.

He was bound to be busted spreading the word around some local high school that he was a trick looking for young girls.

You would have thought he would have recruited girls from Eastern Europe or Russia or something.

Nope.

Just hung around the local high school like run-of-the-mill moron.

I'm not sold on this man's sophistication or the purported CIA web of blackmailing syndicates he supposedly he had behind him.

If this were the case, why hang around a local high school?

Sean , says: October 16, 2019 at 3:00 pm GMT
@Anonymous Epstein maybe took the photo but why would Giuffre end up with it? She is a shakedown artist.
giddyup , says: October 16, 2019 at 3:02 pm GMT
@Jeff Stryker Young white girls are addicted to snapchat, instagram, and pornography . Snapchat and Instagram are softcore porn sites that enable these girls to get attention from strangers, and attention to a woman –particularly a young woman– trumps everything.

You ask how in the world young white girls could be groomed by disgusting Muslims (and they ARE disgusting), well, they're given attention by these swarthy orcs.

And attention is everything to a young white woman.

Excitement is everything to a young white woman.

In fact I don't even think Epstein needed to pay these girls, though of course a couple hundred was nothing to him.

Young white women don't care about their heritage, their family, or their honor.

They only care about their depraved appetites being satisfied, by who or what, it doesn't matter.

They simply want attention.

True it is the fathers of these whores that are -- in the end– to blame, and I freely admit, the young white men of the West are similarly depraved, but I don't think my description of these women is off

Sean , says: October 16, 2019 at 3:04 pm GMT
@Nothing's sadder than a dumb Jew He portrayed himself as a tax avoidance specialist and bounty hunter of illicit funds.

Tax evasion schemes are a great way to rip people off. You cannot cheat an honest man.

melpol , says: October 16, 2019 at 3:06 pm GMT
@Harbinger Pedophiles know where to go to catch their prey.

It is in modeling agencies where the best fruit reside.

Of course the mother and the manager have to get a cut before the youngster is sold or borrowed for a night.

Pedophiles often work at orphanages where they have the access to blemish their prey with sexual juice.

No youngster is safe from the clutches of the Pedophile unless they are accompanied by the heavenly angel.

Sean , says: October 16, 2019 at 3:10 pm GMT
@Chet Roman Guiffre was working in a Trump resort and her father, who was a manager there, ran her to the interview for the job she was offered by Epstein.

Guiffre is now being represented by the top lawyers in the country, Jewish of course and bitter rivals of Dershowitz.

As in so many cases this boils down to arguments between Jews.

bluedog , says: October 16, 2019 at 3:38 pm GMT
@Wizard of Oz I don't think "forced sex" was the issue but the fact that under age sex is illegal, and I don't really think that you would have read any headlines that the queen's boy is a sex offender, which is something that has always been prevalent in the so called British royalty.!!!!
Jeff Stryker , says: October 16, 2019 at 3:46 pm GMT
@giddyup At 45 years old I am no longer a young man or up on youth.

I am a middle-class white, by the way.

Most 15 year old girls when I was 15 in 1989 were virgins.

A few slags, yes, but the idea of an ENTIRE HIGH SCHOOL OF GIRLS selling their bodies would have been ridiculous. Ridiculous.

Back in 1989 porn was around, but girls had no interest in watching it or women.

Even most grown men in 1989 did not watch porn habitually.

It was mostly teen boys, frat guys and a few dirty old men who watched porn.

The idea in 1989 of a female porn addict, much less a 15 year old girl, would have been impossible.

Nobody would have believed it.

Girls in 1989 cared more for their reputation than attention.

Rumors used to fly back in 1989 when some 15 year old girl had sex with a boy her own age that was relatively uncommon for middle-class or even working-class whites.

I have not been in the tenth grade in thirty years.

Heck, I have not lived in the US in 20 years.

But it is astounding the degree to which sexual morality has changed among young white girls.

Even working class ones.

As for the British preteen girls, I suspect this is proximity.

These are poor whites who just did not sell their house in time before their community became a Caliphate/ghetto of Pakistanis.

Probably lower class parents without much money.

Maybe a single mother too.

Jeff Stryker , says: October 16, 2019 at 4:12 pm GMT
@eah How many times can we state that Epstein and his slut B J queen wife/madam/whatever Maxwell was were amoral human pieces of shit before we start to examine the underlying cause?

Epstein was no Charles Manson with hypnotic Rasputin charm.

And Maxwell was not kidnapping girls at gunpoint and forcing them over to the mansion.

Which leads me to ask:

What kind of idiot parent lets their 15 year old daughter fly off to an island in the Caribbean alone with some creepy Jews? I mean it is one thing to lie to your Mom and sneak off to a slumber party or something but where were Mom and Dad when some 10th grade girl is being flown by two Pedos off to the Virgin Islands!

How is it that half of a 10th grade of girls from a single high school are such hardened hookers at age 15 that they will rush over to trade their bodies for cash like hardened call girls?

We know about child prostitution in desperately poor countries like Brazil or Cambodia but this kind of poverty exists in Southern Florida among white people!

Where is Dad? Dad just doesn't care that little Suzie in the ninth grade is off to some ungodly EYES WIDE SHUT orgy with a sinister cabal of rich people on some island in the Caribbean for the weekend .Back when I was in 10th grade girls had to lie to go to a slumber party.

$300 is really that much to young girls in this day and age that they trade in their virginity to some creepy old pervert?

Forget Epstein and what he did.

He did it because he could.

There will always be guys that do that.

Amorality is as cheap as table sugar.

But what is does it say about white girls in society today?

Sean , says: October 16, 2019 at 4:28 pm GMT
I never understand those who think the royals are a supreme elite in Britain.

Rupert Murdoch and his family now that is real wealth, power and privilege.

Anyone else who did what Murdoch and his son did with bugging people's phones would accessing the police computer and paying them for information ect ect would get a term in prison.

Vermin.

But the establishment let them get a stranglehold over the media, so they are untouchable.

Anonymous [648] Disclaimer , says: October 16, 2019 at 4:31 pm GMT
@Jeff Stryker White women in both countries, as a matter of fact, are so utterly brainwashed they mistake giving the edge in elections to their families' executioners as proof of their empowerment.
Bill , says: October 16, 2019 at 4:57 pm GMT
@Jeff Stryker

I'm not sold on this man's sophistication or the purported CIA web of blackmailing syndicates he supposedly he had behind him.

If this were the case, why hang around a local high school?

What sophistication? He ran a blackmailing op for an intelligence service most likely. He was crude and clumsy because he didn't have to be subtle and deft.

Clumsy ole him didn't get caught for a long time (how did that happen?), and, when he did get caught, he got let go (how did that happen?).

Sean , says: October 16, 2019 at 5:02 pm GMT
@bluedog 1) Guiffre was 17 at least, she originally claimed to be 15 but employment records in the defamation case led her to admit she was a full 2 year older when she started working for Epstein.

While she was working for him she had a boyfriend who was Epstein's bodyguard.

She finished at 19.

2) The photo was taken in Britain where Giuffre says she had sex with Andrew.

3) The age of consent in Britain then as now was 16.

Andrew committed no crime having sex with her in Britain and possibly not in America either .

4) If Giuffre was, as she claims, a trafficked sex slave for a honeytrap blackmailer pimp, how could she possibly have come into possession of a photograph that was Epstein's bread and butter?

Bill , says: October 16, 2019 at 5:02 pm GMT
@Jeff Stryker

How many times can we state that Epstein and his slut B J queen wife/madam/whatever Maxwell was were amoral human pieces of shit before we start to examine the underlying cause?

You aren't interested in the underlying cause, though.

You're interested in thinking and talking, a lot, about slutty tenth-grade white girls and the slutty, sexy, oh so interesting things you think they're up to.

Harbinger , says: October 16, 2019 at 5:09 pm GMT
@melpol meipol,

Parents should not be putting their children in modelling agencies PERIOD! They do so for their own greed, having failed in their lives and use their children as commodities to financially gain from.

It's immoral.
Let us also understand as well that paedophilia is having sexual intercourse with pre-pubescent children.

A girl who is menstruatng and boy who is having wet dreams, producing sperm are now women and men.

They are, by nature's decree, adults and ready to procreate.

Does this mean that I have sex with children who are menstruating and producing sperm? Good God no, but I am merely explaining that nature is above man, not the other way around and society is wrong on the definition of adult and child.

That stated, yes, sexual predators DO groom the young.

I won't deny that.

And this is PRECISELY WHY I am an anarchist and promote anarchy.

Were there no police to PROTECT these sexual predators, society would deal with them incredibly fast – noose around the neck, hoisted over a tree bough, strung up and their bellies opened up.

End of existence for those who do wrong.

Alden , says: October 16, 2019 at 5:17 pm GMT
@Jeff Stryker Many of the high school girls in Florida were Hispanic.

And the pimps don't recruit girls in or near schools.

Part of the job description of prostitutes is recruiting other prostitutes as you know very well.

Teens don't tell their parents what they're doing..

Probably told parents they had a baby sitting gardening cleaning restaurant etc job

Test Execution , says: October 16, 2019 at 5:27 pm GMT
Nobody really cares about 17 year old courtesans who "know" old men for money unless they can watch it on the internet.

The oldest profession is so common around the world it is telling that the American propaganda system with its police state played up the salacious aspects of sensationalized sex to hide, obscure and protect the real crimes of the elite – and then not say another word about it while leaving the surveillance and opinion forming to the less than main stream media outlets.

Hedge fund manager Epstein's real troubles were probably too complicated for most of the zombies to understand because they don't really understand finance, Only massive international debt keeps the dollar afloat, and the military.

The elites have counted on widespread ignorance in the sheep like public – the criminal law really only applies to the poor.

Lots of Americans would have gladly bedded old men for thousands of dollars when they were teenagers too knowing what they know now but didn't know then

eah , says: October 16, 2019 at 5:28 pm GMT
@Sean

1) Guiffre was 17 at least
2) The photo was taken in Britain where Giuffre says she had sex with Andrew.

People should note: the info commenter Sean gives here essentially matches what Giuffre/Roberts says about "Prince Andrew", eg in her affidavits -- but the fact that it was not statutory rape does not make it any less tawdry, and therefore something he would naturally want to strongly deny -- what her interest might be in lying about him in particular is far less clear -- I personally still think he is lying .

What's not known is what other girls/young women, perhaps some underage, he may have had sex with thru Epstein -- because Epstein was murdered (duh), the investigation was severely blunted.

Alden , says: October 16, 2019 at 5:36 pm GMT
@Harbinger A hot 34 year old mom and hot 16 year old daughter together in a bar on the prowl for a 3 some.

Standard porn movie plot.

Watch your porn movies if you like.

Why repeat the plots here? Are the plumbers and pizza delivery porn actors girls and the housewives men porn actors now? Pool girl and house husband must be the new genre in porn.

And if those bars you frequent are so tawdry and immoral, why do you keep going to them?

You're behind the times.

Those hook up bars and all bars are having problems surviving, especially the gay bars.

Gays use Grindr heterosexuals use Tinder.

Cheaper no buying drinks or driving to the bar, wasting hours chatting being rejected, finally finding someone then driving to his or her place for sex, then driving home.

Jeff Stryker , says: October 16, 2019 at 5:36 pm GMT
@Alden I didn't read that many of Epstein's victims were Hispanic.

From what I can read the victims were white and from chaotic backgrounds.

Maybe it was a poor high school! Must have been poor for 50 students to rush out and trade their bodies for cash to some leathery old Jewish man.

The idea that some girl could show up at homeroom and say "pssttt, there is the old creepy couple who are offering $300 if you'll go to their house and prostitute yourself."

Sean , says: October 16, 2019 at 5:40 pm GMT
@eah

Epstein was accused of statutory sexual crimes -- in the case of statutory crimes, there is no such thing as "consent" on the part of the victim

Not true because lack of consent would mean a far more serious charge .

Consent is not a defence to under age sex, but refusing to recognise there was consent by a 17 year old girl (Giuffre started with Epstein when she was 17) is a mere legal fiction.

While she worked for Epstein, Guiffre had a boyfriend.

Alfred , says: October 16, 2019 at 5:56 pm GMT
@Curmudgeon Prince Andrew was and is surrounded by people whose sole job is to ensure that he does not get into "trouble".

The fact that he got himself embroiled in all these allegations is ample proof that he chose to ignore the instructions of his minders.

These minders were/are answerable to the Queen.

Undoubtedly, she knows all about his escapades.

Jeff Stryker , says: October 16, 2019 at 6:01 pm GMT
@Bill Why would the CIA endorse an operation ON US SOIL that involved a sloppy pervert bird-dogging the local high school?

Why not recruit out of Russia? Eastern Europe?

I mean why would the US government want to get entangled in a domestic situation involving the teachers of some students at a local high school?

Colin Wright , says: Website October 16, 2019 at 6:14 pm GMT
Prince Andrew is a red herring.

He, Alan Dershowitz, Bill Clinton, and Ehud Barak were all obviously getting their kicks screwing the fourteen year old shiksas Epstein provided.

The 'Lolita Express '

Now ask yourself why is you hear the most about Prince Andrew, very little about Dershowitz and Clinton, and nothing at all about Ehud Barak.

His involvement is very thoroughly documented -- but it's all been nicely scrubbed out.

There's not even a reference on his Wikipedia page.

Why would that be? Think it was Prince Andrew who had Epstein whacked?

British Royals are fair game.

Throw one into the lion pit and everyone will watch that while we ignore the ones we're intended to ignore.

If a former Prime Minister of Israel was implicated -- well, can't have that.

This is a fucking production.

It's choreographed.

Alden , says: October 16, 2019 at 6:25 pm GMT
@Jeff Stryker Palm Beach Fl high school.

Big Hispanic population in Palm Beach.

And when you first appeared on this site you claimed that most of the White girls in your high school were drug addicted tattooed teen mother prostitutes.

And yes, prostitutes do recruit other prostitutes as you well know.

You've made a living in the sex and porn industry your entire life.

How do I know this? I read your posts bragging about it.

And sneering at the White American men who stayed here and managed to make a good living at normal jobs.

And not involved in porn / sex industry jobs.

As you so obviously are.

Alden , says: October 16, 2019 at 6:43 pm GMT
@anonymous Jeff Stryker operates a business in Thailand.

Because his posts are exclusively about sex and porn ; one cannot help but speculate about what his Thai business is.

Agent76 , says: October 16, 2019 at 7:33 pm GMT
Jul 7, 2019 IT BEGINS: Epstein Indicted, Black-Ops Mega-Base Destroyed!

IT'S TRUE: Jeffrey Epstein has actually been arrested.

https://divinecosmos.com/davids-blog/23251-it-begins-epstein/

September 4, 2019 Strange Things Are Happening on Epstein Island: Drone Footage

Recent drone footage of Little Saint James reveals strange activity and telling facts about the Jeffrey Epstein investigation since his death.

As expected, everything points towards a massive cover-up.

Here are the most revealing images captured by drones in the past weeks.

https://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/strange-things-are-happening-on-epstein-island-drone-footage/

melpol , says: October 16, 2019 at 7:35 pm GMT
Excuse my typographical error, Epstein had ED not ER, he couldn't maintain an erection.

His thrill was making a buck, he seldom had any sexual encounters.

Epstein was another Bernie Madoff, but his investments and high returns were kept secret.

He traded with international drug dealers whose investments in poppy crops promised big profits.

All collapsed because of the Afghanistan drought.

Now the big secret is out.

lauris71 , says: October 16, 2019 at 8:40 pm GMT
@Wizard of Oz

On the main subject of gossip I would say that the pictire of Andrew and Giufre/Roberts would be enough for a jury to disbelieve any allegation of forced sex.

I am pretty sure that nobody thinks that Prince Andrew violently raped underage girls.

But soliciting prostitutes is illegal in many places, soliciting underage prostitutes is illegal everywhere, trafficking prostitutes over state borders is illegal, manipulating minors to have sex is illegal in most places, knowingly using prostitutes that have been trafficked/manipulated/forced to do what they do is illegal etc.

etc.

And not reporting it is also crime.

As is knowingly using the results of crime of someone else to your personal gain.

Andrew should convince the jury that he did not know how and why Virginia Roberts happened to be in Epstein company and why she was so eager to have sex with him.

And court system being as corrupt as it is, he probably will succeed.

Gordon Pratt , says: October 16, 2019 at 9:04 pm GMT
If Epstein was a blackmailer, he broke a lot of rules of the game.

Rule 1.

Do not let your victims know about each other.

They will only be manageable if they feel alone.

Rule 2.

Conceal the fact you are a blackmailer.

If word gets out about your activities you won't get any more victims.

Rule 3.

Do not let your victims know where you live.

They might come after you.

Epstein was a pimp.

He ran a club for perverts who wanted to rape children and he used his contacts to shelter the club members from prosecution.

The members no doubt promised to advance the careers of other members and to respect the interests of an unnamed foreign power.

Everybody understood the arrangement from the outset.

There was no entrapment.

The pervs knew they were being recorded but also knew that evidence would never surface as long as they respected club rules.

The problem with the Blackmail's narrative is it makes the club members, however loathsome, into victims.

They were willing participants.

And what happened to all the videos Epstein gathered to enforce club rules?

BTW there was an entry in Epstein's book for Dr Ellie Wiesell.

Wizard of Oz , says: October 16, 2019 at 10:08 pm GMT
@Chet Roman When did Ghislaine Maxwell convert to Judaism?

This about her mother from Wikipedia:

"She was born Elisabeth Jenny Jeanne Meynard in La Grive, near Saint-Alban-de-Roche, France, to Louis "Paul" Meynard and Colombe (née Petel) Meynard.

Paul Meynard was a Protestant descendant of the Huguenot aristocracy and Colombe Meynard was a Roman Catholic (whose marriage to a Protestant resulted in her excommunication).

Her father Paul owned a silk-weaving factory and was the mayor of the village.

Elisabeth had one sibling, an older sister, Yvonne.

Her parents sent her to England at age nine to attend the convent of Our Lady of Compassion at Acocks Green in Birmingham.

In 1932, she returned to France.

Elisabeth Meynard studied law at the Sorbonne"

There is nothing about her converting to Judaism before Ghislaine's birth or at all.

Nothing's sadder than a dumb Jew , says: October 16, 2019 at 10:36 pm GMT
Jeff Stryker 65, "Why would the CIA endorse an operation ON US SOIL that involved a sloppy pervert bird-dogging the local high school?"

Because they know they can get away with it.

This has been another episode of Simple Answers to Stupid Questions.

Jonathan Mason , says: October 16, 2019 at 11:02 pm GMT
@Jeff Stryker

Why are they prepared to do these things?

You have probably not worked in social services or law enforcement.

Part of it is probably to do with getting older men to provide them with drugs and alcohol.

Obviously not all working class white girls get into this scene, but some of the more delinquently inclined ones do, especially when they come from homes where there is drink, drugs, and crime.

One of the most stunning statistics I have ever heard, which has been verified, is that 33% of the men born in Britain in 1953 have at least one criminal conviction.

These will be nearly all white men, born before there was any kind of drug problem in England, whose parents were veterans of World War II.

I was born two years earlier, but if I had been asked to guess the number of that cohort who had criminal convictions, I would have guessed around 5%.

Nope! Not even close.

In fact 9% of the women born the same year had criminal convictions too.

https://www.unlock.org.uk/policy-issues/key-facts/

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2002/apr/14/workandcareers.observercashsection

Having lived in Florida for many years, it would not surprise me in the least if an equal number or greater of the men of the same age as Ms Giuffre/Roberts' father's generation living in Florida have similar records.

Certainly, in various areas of social services, it is quite difficult to find male employees as a large proportion of potential applicants are ruled out for criminal records.

So there are a lot of delinquent families living in a trailer park near you, and when relatively large amounts of money, like $300 are being handed out in no questions cash, money talks and there are plenty of people ready to lend an ear.

Sean , says: October 16, 2019 at 11:42 pm GMT
@lauris71 You are getting confused with th Florida schoolgirls under age sex and soliciting conviction of Epstein.

Epstein never faced any charges at all in relation to Virginia Roberts/Giuffre, and she was not used as a witness by prosecutors either.

They obviously did not think her stories were credible.

Rich men bang the help, and I can believe Epstein did her.

Her assertion to have been sleeping with presidents and prime ministers on Epstein's orders makes is highly dubious though.

Giuffre being employed by Epstein as a masseuse is hardly evidence of her being any kind of prostitute or victim that Andrew had a duty to inform the authorities about.

Andrew denies having any sexual contact with her.

There simply is no possible case against Andrew. The royals are used to these kind of baseless allegations.

I would like someone to tell me why she was in possession of that photograph if Epstein was the blackmailer .

anonymous [324] Disclaimer , says: October 16, 2019 at 11:43 pm GMT
@Harbinger The people who made these laws were just trying to set some guidelines to protect young girls and boys from predators.

A civilized society is a society of laws which may not seem logical, especially over the passage of time, but nevertheless were intended to protect the young.

Our society has changed dramatically and young people have more knowledge about sex than old people did 100 years ago.

The one thing that hasn't changed is that while nature might make young girls of 12 able to get pregnant, it doesn't mean that their maturity is capable of fully appreciating the gravity of the situation.

The laws are still valid because a certain segment of older men need to be kept in their place and give the state the means to prosecute those that violate the law.

Most men who might approach a 12 year old girl for sex if it was totally legal don't because there are severe penalties for doing so.

The men who aren't controlled by the threat of punishment for any wrongdoing fill our prisons.

Just because the system is flawed doesn't mean that these child protection laws should be thrown out.

Look at countries that have little or no protection for minors, are they better than what we have? If you don't like it here you can always move to Thailand, India or the Philippines that have little or no protection for children. Oh, I just heard, they've started deporting people who are caught violating young children back to the US or Europe.

Hard to get away from those pesky laws.

Anarchy is so much more fun!

sally , says: October 17, 2019 at 5:02 am GMT
@Curmudgeon https://www.mintpressnews.com/category/epstein-investigation/

Thanks for the article and the organization of its contents..

they help.

But I think it might be more productive to focus on how to frame a set of null hypotheses in complete enough fashion to allow proactive involvement of every person interested in getting to the truth of this question Does external foreign or criminal influence control or influence the behaviors of persons, agencies or elected officials in the USA? if so what agency, person or contractor has not been compromised ?

I think a great deal of investigative journalism should be framed in hypothesis to be tested formats..

Then, for each hypothesis discuss the matters related, present the then known facts and prove or disprove or leave open for want of evidence to prove the null the hypothesis..

By using the hypothesis frame work, the journalist commits the audience to the investigation..

Articles such as this one come and go..

people forget the names, points made and miss or ignore items missing from the article..and cannot later retrieve the article itself.

But the hypothesis that still stand keep getting closer and closer to the failure of evidence to prove the null.

By employing a method of research as a journalist endeavor (say by creating and numbering a set of hypothesis) and then by setting out to prove the null for each of the hypothesis ( may serve to keep the salient facts in everyone's mind and help to discover and properly state updated and related hypothesis to be tested.

The collective works remained connected, and can lead to a final statement for which no nullifying evidence exist.

Hypothesis: At least one of Epstein's behavior was directed by a Mossad agency.

<= what evidence proves this statement wrong?
Hypothesis; Epstein modified at least one of his behaviors to suit or accommodate a Mossad Agency.
Hypothesis: X was (is) directed by a Mossad agency.

<= what evidence proves this s statement wrong?
Hypothesis: The FBI is directed by a Mossad agency < what evidence proves this statement wrong?
Hypothesis: At least one behavior of highly placed persons in the FBI was influenced by a Mossad Agency <what evidence proves this statement wrong? and if slightly wrong, how should the hypothesis be amended to accommodate in the hypothesis the new or better understood information.
Hypothesis: At least one of Trump's behaviors was (is) directed by a Mossad agency < what evidence proves this statement wrong?
Hypothesis: Epstein was a CIA agent?
Hypothesis: At least one of Epstein's behaviors was directed by a CIA agency.
Hypothesis: Members of the CIA are directed by one or more foreign agencies.
Hypothesis: Epstein, et.

al was a CIA Agency
Hypothesis: Epstein was directed by an agency of Saudi Arabia..
Hypothesis: The political party (D or R) candidates for elected office in the USA are denied access to party backed candidacy until and unless the hopeful person candidate has been compromised by a Mossad Agency?
To prove the null (that this statement is wrong) it is only necessary to show that at least one of the elected persons h/n/b compromised by a Mossad Agency?
Until such proof is presented the hypothesis and statement stand.

What is needed is an ever narrowing set of continuously undated and restated and improve hypothesis or set of hypothesis which stand as true until evidence sufficient to prove their positive statement ( the null ) wrong.

If the journalist involves everyone's help it might not be long until a lot of questions appear that need evidence to deny them.

Active searches for the answers and evidence by the audience could result in proving nulls and finally shed a lot of light on this problem the journalist is investigating.

Also such a method makes it possible to advance ideas that might be impossible using narrative methods only
IMO.

Sick of Orcs , says: October 17, 2019 at 6:11 pm GMT
@Niebelheim

What's so damning about everyone smiling and so happy .

As if people never fake-smiled for cameras?

Once Randy Andy denied there was any sex, the 'UK's age of consent' argument no longer mattered.

Virginia Roberts Giuffre's criminal complaint is the encounter was non-consensual, she was ordered or otherwise coerced to perform a sexual act with someone she never would have of her own choosing.

JFK did similar, using his authority to coerce frightened intern and then virgin Mimi Alford, whom he later allegedly passed around to others epstein-style.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9079446/Mimi-Alford-tells-of-her-secret-affair-with-JFK.html

eah , says: October 17, 2019 at 9:49 pm GMT
@Sean Look, I find you tiresome, in some ways obtuse, and would normally just ignore you -- but:

Not true because lack of consent would mean a far more serious charge.

I thought what I said was pretty clear: when one party is underage, consent plays no role in whether a criminal act occurred : it's a crime, period -- consent/no consent -- you may be right: if the sex was forced, perhaps there are normally additional charges -- I don't know (and don't really care, as it is not relevant here).

I do not give a damn if Giuffre/Roberts consented or not -- in fact, I have always assumed the act itself was not forced, in the sense that "Prince Andrew" did not force himself on her -- nonetheless, a case could be made that her entire association with Epstein was a form a coercion , and the sex acts with "Prince Andrew" happened within this context -- also, how old was she initially when this (ostensibly) coercive relationship with Epstein began?

Finally, read my comments about "Prince Andrew": the only thing I said about him was I think he's lying -- I think he is lying about having sex with her.

Commentator Mike , says: October 17, 2019 at 10:56 pm GMT
@Jeff Stryker Jeff,

Why not recruit out of Russia? Eastern Europe?

But he was doing that too.

https://www.wired.com/story/global-girl-jeffrey-epstein-and-the-lolita-express/

Wizard of Oz , says: October 18, 2019 at 12:17 pm GMT
@byrresheim Alden is a woman and one who, as a former parole officer (I believe) knows a little about the law.

I am not sure whether she sees the point of arguing whether Epstein was or was not a pederast.

I believe there is a definite point because neither Mossad nor the CIA would want to be tainted with pederasty for which there is general disgust, way exceeding statutory rape.

BTW her "pled" is quite eccentric.

Said to be a one to twenty minoroty usage for "pleaded".

Alden , says: October 18, 2019 at 6:31 pm GMT
@Commentator Mike I believe many American states have the 3 year thing .

18 and 15 is ok.

In actual fact, young boyfriends don't get in trouble.

In the good old days outraged parents might want to charge them.

But realistically, those police reports went nowhere. Investigation goes nowhere when the " victim" of the crime tells the investigator it never happened.

But over all, there are too many comments ignorant of the fact that the charges were procuring for prostitution, not statutory rape or molestation of minors.

Until I began reading UNZ, I didn't realize there were so many middle aged fathers of 1 or 2 children so interested in the fertility of teen girls.

I don't mean just Harbinger. It's been about 6 years I think and I noticed it from the start.

If these fertility fanatics want women to have large families they should do what my husband did.

Have a large family, instead of blathering about it on UNZ.

I can see being militantly for or against abortion.

But men obsessing about the fertility of total stranger women just strikes me as totally absolutely weird.

Think Whites should more children? Then do your part.

And Harbinger really needs to buy some medical school pediatric textbooks which have several chapters on human development including puberty, an obstetrics text book, a standard baby and child care book, and read about the history of marriage and family for the last 1400 years.

His claims that girls menstruated and had babies at 12 1,000 years ago is contrary to all historical fact and 1400 years of Christian church marriage and birth records.

Men think differently than woman I know.

But I still think Harbinger's focus on pregnant 11 and 12 year olds is just weird and unseemly.

And he was the only commenter to bring up menstruation.

He was totally wrong.

Girls didn't start to menstruate at 10,11, 12 till the 20th century because of better nutrition and kerosene and electric light.

Maybe it was the only job he could get, but bouncers in gay clubs shouldn't preach about morality to others.

Alden , says: October 18, 2019 at 6:34 pm GMT
@Sean Great post.

Epstein was a procurer of prostitutes.

Compared to all these idiots arguing against age of consent laws you can read and comprehend at a 3rd grade level.

Thank you

Micro Micky , says: October 18, 2019 at 6:38 pm GMT
If they had something on Andrew (and the fact he visited Epstein after his conviction suggests Andrew was after what Epstein provided), the problem for us Brits becomes any British government will do whatever it takes to keep the royal family from seedy exposure which could even bring the monarchy down.

We'd become extremely vulnerable to doing things that are clearly not in our interest, such as getting involved in Middle East wars.

byrresheim , says: October 18, 2019 at 7:01 pm GMT
@Alden Pled for the past of plead is correct english.

Still I have no use for her abominable behaviour.

The lady doth protest too much.

Perversion hides behind zealotry.

The most disgusting case of pederasty I know of – and they are all digusting – happened in Germany, Worms.

Look up Spatzennest.

The director of a foster home accused several parents of sexually abusing their children – what is called statutory rape in certain countries.

The medical exams of several girls taken away from their parents showed no anomalies before these girls were entrusted to his care.

They did show anomalies several months later, if you get the gist.

He ended up in prison, sadly a few years too late for those poor girls and their parents whose life he ruined.

Look it up, perhaps you come to the same conclusion I do: people who play fast and loose with that sort of slander have weighty but ugly reasons to do so.

[Oct 30, 2019] Jeffrey Epstein Was Strangulated, Famous Forensic Expert Says

Oct 30, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

"Jeffrey Epstein Was Strangulated", Famous Forensic Expert Says by Tyler Durden Wed, 10/30/2019 - 09:35 0 SHARES

This morning on Fox and Friends, Dr. Michael Baden , a famous forensic expert and former New York City medical examiner said that at the end of the investigation he did on behalf of Jeffrey Epstein's brother, its findings are more consistent with homicidal strangulation than suicidal hanging .

https://video.foxnews.com/v/video-embed.html?video_id=6099044550001&loc=zerohedge.com&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fpolitical%2Fjeffrey-epstein-was-strangulated-famous-forensic-expert-says&_xcf=

Dr. Michael Baden, who was hired by Epstein's brother and observed the autopsy, told Fox News that the 66-year-old Epstein had two fractures on the left and right sides of his larynx, specifically the thyroid cartilage or Adam's apple, as well as one fracture on the left hyoid bone above the Adam's apple, Baden told Fox News.

"Those three fractures are extremely unusual in suicidal hangings and could occur much more commonly in homicidal strangulation," said Baden.

"The prominent hemorrhage in the soft tissues of the neck next to the fractures is evidence of a fresh neck compression that could have caused the death."

"I've not seen in 50 years where that occurred in a suicidal hanging case," the 85-year-old medical legend told Fox News.

This disagrees with New York City Medical Examiner Barbara Sampson's rulling that Epstein's cause of death was suicide by hanging.

"It appears that this could have been a mistake," Baden said.

"There's evidence here of homicide that should be investigated, to see if it is or isn't homicide."

Just another "mistake."


eileentgif , 11 minutes ago link

Isn't there anyone trying to get to the bottom of this story? It is the most brazen cover-up ever. The official explanation of suicide is a joke and simply unbelievable given the reported conditions in Epstein's cell (ceiling height, etc.) and hurried autopsy (already being challenged by experts who are concluding murder was much more likely). Dozens of among the most powerful people in the world had a very clear motive to get rid of him. Wray has been examining the "malfunctioning cameras" in the labs at Quantico for more than 2 months now and not a word. Barr, the master of over-ups, was/is in charge of the investigation. He promised Epstein's co-conspirators would be brought to justice but we are to believe that not even Ghislaine Maxwell has been located. Prison guards, including those "asleep" at the time of his obvious murder, were supposedly being interviewed. Was there any follow-up? There are hundreds of leads out there. Isn't anyone following them? Unless the truth comes out, America is lost. Justice, apparently, is not blind.

Rutalkingtome , 1 hour ago link

I do not think that this pedo is dead at all. He was (still is I think) working for powerful organization/s (Mossad, CIA, Israeli government, etc) that among other things controls the US rulers no question about it. I do not think for a second that this organizations let him down.

Kotzbomber747 , 1 hour ago link

Trump and "lock her up" Hillary probably worked together on this 'suicide.'

Win-win for both, Trump can swipe his inconveniently yet "he's a terrific guy" friend under the rug who inconveniently hung out with Trump, and Hillary can erase Pedo-Bill's inconveniently trips to Pedo-Island.

Trump and Hillary are same ****, different name, and that's the reason why Killary is not locked up. 🙄

Emergency Ward , 1 hour ago link

Well, TrumpO is on the record as kicking him out of his club for unsavory behavior, and Hillary's Bill is on record making many flights on Teenager-Trafficking Air.

So not quite the same. No one is happier about the "suicide" than William Jefferson.

The Clintons will never be charged, and it's not just about Trump. (Remember, Hillary had all the dossiers on political figures. She turned back the ones on Republicans, but kept the ones on her own party.)

smacker , 1 hour ago link

If Epstein really is dead (he's more likely to be kiddie-fiddling down Brazil's Eastern seaboard between Fortaleza and Rio), then it was homicide. Suicide just doesn't fit what we know about this guy's character.

Gead , 1 hour ago link

The scumbag Epstein is either as many think - alive; or, he's been cremated. I seriously doubt reviewing some forensic notes is going to do much besides sell air-time on some 'diddle-your-niddle' "news" show.

doktormagnificus , 1 hour ago link

Of course Epstein was murdered, the dumbest guy with Downs syndrome has figured that out months ago. The real mystery is why this has surfaced NOW?

I venture a guess that it will die down and be forgotten in a week. Man, they keep baiting us with actual justice once in a while but we know the drill, nobody with real power will ever get caught.

[Oct 27, 2019] There is a probably valid school of thought that the deep establishment has a faction that is pro-Trump and behind the general idea of disengaging from wasteful overseas adventures, since it is becoming clear that this is a ruinous path that the US cannot really afford anymore...

Oct 27, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

juliania , Oct 26 2019 15:24 utc | 105

My thought about Barr holding fire on Epstein is that he may have known that was a red herring, false flag, or whatever you want to call it. That whole Epstein affair sounded like a juicy distraction to me, in the manner of "if it bleeds it leads". When someone actually dies who is the center of contraversial activity, you may be sure, unfortunately, that someone, he or another, is getting close to truths that ought not see the light of day. Somewhat in the nature of the baiting of Putin as Ukraine was beginning its time of troubles. The old revolutionary dictum "Hold your fire until you see the whites of their eyes" may have been in Barr's mind at the time of Epstein's demise.

Certainly such investigations as the one he is involved in take much time to sort out the who-what-where in terms sufficiently damaging to become a credible enterprise. We have seen such attempts fail in the past. I hope he takes his time and gets all his ducks in a row before the hammer falls as fall it must. It is so vital to this country that this attempt succeed; for if it fails only the shambles of Kiev style fisticuffs in Congress can be the result. Not pretty.

In b's post we are reminded of the power of the press to misinform. I would suggest we badly need divestiture of our media from the huge corporations now more wealthy than some countries. The latter are too powerful in this country now, and they do need to be whittled down to size. We not only need fact finders, we need eloquent voices to present those facts to the public. We need free speech!


flankerbandit , Oct 26 2019 17:12 utc | 111

Juliania...about Barr...

He is a deep state creature...his father Donald Barr was an OSS guy and original CIA [which morphed from the wartime OSS]...

Barr senior was also Epstein's mentor and got him his start at the deeply establishment Dalton School [and probably Epstein's handler as an asset or 'agent' as they are called]...

So things go a bit deeper than the surface when it comes to Barr junior...and what he is doing here...

There is a probably valid school of thought that the deep establishment has a faction that is pro-Trump and behind the general idea of disengaging from wasteful overseas adventures, since it is becoming clear that this is a ruinous path that the US cannot really afford anymore...

I would also agree with the theory that says that these two 'deep' factions ['nationalist' vs 'globalist'] are at war...with the 'DNC-Hillary-MSM-interventionist faction' possibly on the decline, but still powerful enough to blow up a lot of the plans that Trump and his deep backers would like to get done...

Epstein is a whole 'nuther can of worms here and I would not be surprised if he was not actually dead...Trump himself is deeply entangled with many of the prime players in the Epstein web...it all depends if he is more useful alive than dead...

Btw...pulling off a deception like a fake death is kindergarten level for these kinds of operators and the unlimited resources they possess to shape so-called 'reality' as brought to us on our little screens...

So really I find it kind of silly that the right wingers are looking at Barr as some kind of White Knight...there really are none of those in these circles...as much as the sheeple would like to believe that...

chu teh , Oct 26 2019 19:08 utc | 112
karlof1 | Oct 25 2019 22:15 utc | 54

re: source of "God has an infinite sense of humor"...

Was told that in 1994[?] conversation w Jerry, a fellow worker, abt the baffling condition of Mankind. Never heard it before or since. At the time it was one of most incisive and impinging viewpoints; it still is.

It was said to me dryly, not coy and no smile, almost plaintively as tho it would be ignored and pass thru unrecognized. I never met a more rational or sharper mind.

Once, I remarked I was looking for an obscure book that was mentioned in another book, as "1 of the 3 best autobios ever written in English" by someone I never heard of. J:"Who and what?" Me:"Kropotkin and Revolutionist".
J:"Oh, sure! I think my wife still has a copy" and he brought it in next day.[An awesome read, too!]

karlof1 , Oct 26 2019 19:56 utc | 113
chu the @112--

Thanks for your reply! I was also thinking that perhaps it was a cynical observation made by a stoic son of a Baptist or Methodist Minister, like the retort in M*A*S*H about how someone like that (Hawkeye, IIRC) got into the Army--"He got drafted," which caused the audience to erupt in laughter (definitely a context-dependent joke).

Peter AU 1 , Oct 26 2019 20:43 utc | 114
flankerbandit 111
"There is a probably valid school of thought that the deep establishment has a faction that is pro-Trump and behind the general idea of disengaging from wasteful overseas adventures, since it is becoming clear that this is a ruinous path that the US cannot really afford anymore..."

I think this what is occuring. And when Trump says swamp, I think it is the section of the swamp that this faction believe set the US on a ruinous path.

pogohere , Oct 26 2019 20:46 utc | 115
chu teh @44 & 112

God is a comedian whose audience refuses to laugh.

uncle tungsten , Oct 26 2019 20:52 utc | 116
Bemildred #66

Good post my friend, no wonder the demoncrazies went berserk over Trump dipping in to their honeypot. I could never definitively find a reason for those spectacular ammunition storage bonfires in Ukraine. I figured it was either to disable their sale or cover up theft.

ERing46Z , Oct 26 2019 22:55 utc | 117
W. Gruff, thanks for the process insight.
I was long-aware the removal of the Smith-Mundt Act was loaded into the 2012 NDAA. No attempt on Trump's watch has been made to bring a needed, modern form of it back. I didn't vote for Trump, and until the damn looney media is reeled back into factual, in-context reporting, it will remain obvious Trump is only expanding a variety of nefarious things on the absence of legislation such as the S-M Act.

[Oct 09, 2019] Epstein Co-Conspirators Named By Accuser; Alleged Pedo Scout Ready To Spill The Beans

Oct 09, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

by Tyler Durden Wed, 10/09/2019 - 16:45 0 SHARES

Jeffrey Epstein accuser Jennifer Araroz filed an amended complaint Tuesday which names two accomplices in the convicted pedophile's alleged sex-trafficking operation along with more than 20 corporate entities, according to CNN .

While Epstein's alleged 'madam' Ghislaine Maxwell has been accused of actively participating in Epstein's sex crimes, the new complaint asserts that "secretary" Lesley Groff and former executive assistant Cimberly Espinosa "participated with and assisted Epstein in maintaining and protecting his sex trafficking ring, ensuring that approximately three girls a day were made available to him for his sexual pleasure ."

Jennifer Aroz, 14, via NBC News

"The co-conspirators provided organizational support to Epstein's sex trafficking ring, identifying and hiring the recruiters of underage girls for Epstein's sexual pleasure, scheduling appointments with these underage girls for Epstein's sexual pleasure , intimidating potential witnesses to Epstein's sex trafficking operation, and generally providing administrative oversight of his sex trafficking operation and ensuring it remained secret ," the complaint continues.

"He raped me, forcefully raped me" Araoz told NBC News in July. The 32-year-old Epstein accuser says she was 14-years-old when the abuse began. " I was terrified, and I was telling him to stop. 'Please stop,' " Araoz continud.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/CYNnkAJHk_w

Groff's attorney, Michael Bachner, told CNN "As an executive assistant to Epstein, Lesley worked as part of a professional staff that included in-house attorneys, accountants, an office manager and other office staff."

"Lesley's job included making appointments for Mr. Epstein as directed by him, taking his messages, and setting up high-level meetings with CEOs, business executives, scientists, politicians and celebrities," the statement continues - adding " At no time during Lesley's employment with Epstein did she ever engage in any misconduct. "

Also included in the complaint are the executors of Epstein's estate (one of whom was reportedly seen removing a bag of items the day after Epstein's death).

In August, Araoz told reporters that her abuse at the hands of Epstein and his enablers "robbed me of my youth, my identity, my innocence, my self-worth."

Brunel ready to talk

On Monday, an attorney for Epstein's former confidant, business partner, and model scout Jean-Luc-Brenel says he's ready to talk to authorities, according to the Telegraph .

Brunel and Ghislaine Maxwell (via the Daily Mail)

The Paris prosecutor's office opened a preliminary investigation in August into any possible Epstein victims in its territory, and Mr Brunel is of potential interest to investigators.

Last month police searched Karin Models, which Mr Brunel founded.

In court filings, Virginia Guiffre, a long-time accuser of Epstein, claimed teenage girls were brought to the US by Brunel and were "farmed out" by him to have sex with Epstein . Ms Guiffre also claims she was forced to have sex with Brunel several times. Brunel denies both allegations.

His lawyer Corinne Dreyfus-Schmidt said Mr Brunel "firmly contests accusations in the press" and "will reserve his statements for justice officials."

On Monday Ms Dreyfus-Schmidt, said that her client has notified the Paris prosecutor's office that he is at the disposition of judicial officials. - Telegraph

According to Epstein accuser Virgina Giuffre Roberts, Brunel "would bring young girls (ranging to ages as young as twelve) to the United States for sexual purposes and farm them out to his friends, especially Epstein."

"Brunel would offer the girls "modeling" jobs. Many of the girls came from poor countries or impoverished backgrounds, and he lured them in with a promise of making good money."

Illustration via the Daily Beast

In the 1980s Brunel was featured in a 60 Minutes expose after having gained a reputation for sleeping with many of his underage models. His name was prominently featured in a series of phone messages recovered from trash pulls of Epstein's mansion.

[Oct 06, 2019] Is the neoliberal use of children for nefarious purposes increasing?

Oct 06, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

Kiza , Oct 4 2019 19:49 utc | 20

Slightly off topic, but is not the Western use of children for nefarious purposes increasing? From the first Hong King rioter who got shot for attacking a policeman, at all of his 14 years of age, through Epstein's sexual use of young girls for blackmail, to Greta and the climate change screaming kids. If you are younger than 18, and without or with weak parental oversight due to challenging economic conditions (struggle to survive), you are a fair game for the Western "elite". Earn some pocket money by burning down Hong Kong.

This will only increase, because it runs parallel to the tactics of turning adults against each other to miss to notice the "elite's" hand in all of their pockets. Fight each other people and send your children into the front lines. That is how they channel anger toward's "elite's" alternative-model enemies (China) and away from the real perpetrators and the real issues. This is why the images of Hong Kong riots overlap with the two minute hate from the movie 1984.

Finally, the Communist elite used children too, to do the dying in revolutions, to report their own parents the communist authorities and to severely punish ideological opponents. The use of children is nothing new, but it shows total moral depravity.

[Oct 05, 2019] The Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts are up to their usual responsibility-dodging gymnastics regarding their obligations to the children who were sexually assaulted by various authority figures in both institutions.

Oct 05, 2019 | economistsview.typepad.com

ken melvin , October 04, 2019 at 08:45 AM

Scary stuff

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/feature/inside-the-christian-legal-army-weakening-the-church-state-divide

EMichael -> ken melvin... , October 04, 2019 at 08:54 AM
Yes.

And it is even beyond scary.

"This one crosses a bunch of state lines. The Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts are up to their usual responsibility-dodging gymnastics regarding their obligations to the children who were sexually assaulted by various authority figures in both institutions. From USA Today:

'Pennsylvania state Rep. Tom Murt slid into a pew at his childhood church, seeking a break from politics and the stress of work. In his sermon, the priest talked about a bill pending in the state Legislature that would give survivors of child sexual abuse more time to sue their abusers – and the institutions that hid abuse.

Then the priest singled out Murt. Tom Murt, the priest said, wasn't defending the church in its time of need. In fact, the Republican and lifelong Catholic was supporting the legislation.'

What the hell? Do these clowns want someone to come after their tax exemptions? Does Father Lobbyist want to go to hell? You can't be using your sacred office to lobby for a specific piece of legislation. That's sacrilegious. Also stupid.

Such efforts may have appeared hyperlocal and deeply personal, but they weren't. They were part of a coordinated effort by the Catholic Church to kill the Pennsylvania legislation. That effort extended from the halls of the statehouse – where church-sponsored lobbyists worked behind the scenes and testified publicly – to the very pews where some legislators bowed their heads in prayer.

The fight is over extending the statute of limitations on complaints of child sexual abuse. The Church and the Scouts thought they were getting over their disastrous history of cover-up and complicity. But being an accessory after the fact is not something on which you can skate so easily. "After the fact" doesn't have a time limit on crimes like these."

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a29356647/texas-governor-greg-abbott-homeless-austin/

ilsm -> EMichael... , October 04, 2019 at 09:00 AM
Worshiping Moloch.........
ken melvin -> EMichael... , October 04, 2019 at 09:10 AM

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

The First Amendment guarantees freedoms concerning religion, expression, assembly, and the right to petition. It forbids Congress from both promoting one religion over others and also restricting an individual's religious practices. It guarantees freedom of expression by prohibiting Congress from restricting the press or the rights of individuals to speak freely. It also guarantees the right of citizens to assemble peaceably and to petition their government.


im1dc -> ken melvin... , October 04, 2019 at 09:39 AM
Very happy to see you on are the bandwagon with me in regard to the church state divide and ongoing attacks by the religious on the US Constitution and the basis of our Founding.

[Oct 03, 2019] Former Israeli Intel Official Claims Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell Worked for Israeli Intel by Whitney Webb

Oct 03, 2019 | www.unz.com

A recent interview given by a former high-ranking official in Israeli military intelligence has claimed that Jeffrey Epstein's sexual blackmail enterprise was an Israel intelligence operation run for the purpose of entrapping powerful individuals and politicians in the United States and abroad.

Since the apparent death by suicide of Jeffrey Epstein in a Manhattan prison, much has come to light about his depraved activities and methods used to sexually abuse underage girls and entrap the rich and powerful for the purposes of blackmail. Epstein's ties to intelligence, described in-depth in a recent MintPress investigative series , have continued to receive minimal mainstream media coverage, which has essentially moved on from the Epstein scandal despite the fact that his many co-conspirators remain on the loose.

For those who have examined Epstein's ties to intelligence, there are clear links to both U.S. intelligence and Israeli intelligence, leaving it somewhat open to debate as to which country's intelligence apparatus was closest to Epstein and most involved in his blackmail/sex-trafficking activities. A recent interview given by a former high-ranking official in Israeli military intelligence has claimed that Epstein's sexual blackmail enterprise was an Israel intelligence operation run for the purpose of entrapping powerful individuals and politicians in the United States and abroad.

In an interview with Zev Shalev, former CBS News executive producer and award-winning investigative journalist for Narativ , the former senior executive for Israel's Directorate of Military Intelligence, Ari Ben-Menashe, claimed not only to have met Jeffrey Epstein and his alleged madam, Ghislaine Maxwell, back in the 1980s, but that both Epstein and Maxwell were already working with Israeli intelligence during that time period. "They found a niche"

In an interview last week with the independent outlet Narativ , Ben-Menashe, who himself was involved in Iran-Contra arms deals, told his interviewer Zev Shalev that he had been introduced to Jeffrey Epstein by Robert Maxwell in the mid-1980s while Maxwell's and Ben-Menashe's involvement with Iran-Contra was ongoing. Ben-Menashe did not specify the year he met Epstein.

Ben-Menashe told Shalev that "he [Maxwell] wanted us to accept him [Epstein] as part of our group . I'm not denying that we were at the time a group that it was Nick Davies [Foreign Editor of the Maxwell-Owned Daily Mirror ], it was Maxwell, it was myself and our team from Israel, we were doing what we were doing." Past reporting by Seymour Hersh and others revealed that Maxwell, Davies and Ben-Menashe were involved in the transfer and sale of military equipment and weapons from Israel to Iran on behalf of Israeli intelligence during this time period.

He then added that Maxwell had stated during the introduction that "your Israeli bosses have already approved" of Epstein. Shalev later noted that Maxwell "had an extensive network in Israel at the time, which included the then-Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, according to Ben-Menashe."

Ben-Menashe went on to say that he had "met him [Epstein] a few times in Maxwell's office, that was it." He also said he was not aware of Epstein being involved in arms deals for anyone else he knew at the time, but that Maxwell wanted to involve Epstein in the arms transfer in which he, Davies and Ben-Menashe were engaged on Israel's behalf.

However, as MintPress reported in Part IV of the investigative series " Inside the Jeffrey Epstein Scandal: Too Big to Fail ," Epstein was involved with several arms dealers during this period of time, some of whom were directly involved in Iran-Contra arms deals between Israel and Iran. For instance, after leaving Bear Stearns in 1981, Epstein began working in the realms of shadow finance as a self-described "financial bounty hunter," where he would both hunt down and hide money for powerful people. One of these powerful individuals was Adnan Khashoggi, a Saudi arms dealer with close ties to both Israeli and U.S. intelligence and one of the main brokers of Iran-Contra arms deals between Israel and Iran. Epstein would later forge a business relationship with a CIA front company involved in another aspect of Iran-Contra, the airline Southern Air Transport, on behalf of Leslie Wexner's company, The Limited.

[Oct 01, 2019] Eyes Wide Shut by Trevor Lynch

Oct 01, 2019 | www.unz.com

The day Jeffrey Epstein turned up dead in a New York jail cell, I decided I needed to write something about Eyes Wide Shut (1999), Stanley Kubrick's last and weakest movie.

Epstein has quickly faded from the headlines, so let me remind you briefly of who he was. Epstein was an American Jew who enjoyed immense wealth from unknown sources, hob-knobbed with the global elite, including Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew, and was a pervert with a taste for underage girls, meaning that he was a serial rapist. He is also accused of sharing these women with his wealthy and powerful friends, which would have implicated them in marital infidelity and statutory rape, making them subject to blackmail.

In 2006, the FBI began investigating Epstein, tracking down over 100 women. In 2007, he was indicted by the federal government on multiple counts of sex trafficking and conspiracy to traffic minors for sex. If convicted, he and his co-conspirators could have spent the rest of their lives in prison. But US Attorney Alex Acosta was told to go easy on Epstein, because "he belonged to intelligence." Epstein received a sweetheart deal. He pled guilty to two state prostitution charges and spent 13 months at a Florida county jail with generous work release. Epstein's co-conspirators were not prosecuted at all. The records were sealed, and would have remained so, were it not for the efforts of reporter Julie Brown , whose stories led to the unsealing of Epstein's records, followed by his arrest and death in custody.

The most plausible explanation for Epstein's mysterious life and death is that he was a pimp who implicated rich and powerful men and then blackmailed them, financially and politically. If he enjoyed the patronage of "intelligence," it was most likely Israeli. When he was first arrested, he called in favors from his patrons (and probably from his victims as well), to avoid federal prosecution, which could have embarrassed many powerful people. When Epstein was re-arrested, there was no way he could escape prosecution, so he was murdered to protect the secrets of any (or all) of his patrons and victims.

... ... ...

The higher one climbs in the social hierarchy, the closer one approaches the inner party, the greater the degeneracy and the more ferocious the assault on marital fidelity.

... ... ...

So why would the power-elites of a society engage in group perversion? The richer a person is, the more opportunities there are for self-indulgence. After a while, though, such people get jaded and hunger for exotic pleasures, including ones that violate the rules of morality and the laws of society. It takes a highly developed sense of honor not to abuse the freedom granted by great wealth. Even when such an aristocratic ethos was cultivated, there were many spectacular failures. Moreover, today's oligarchy has dispensed with the pretenses of honor entirely.

...Beyond routine degeneracy, elites also use sexual perversion as a tool of control. Just as street gangs require prospective members to sully themselves with crimes to join, elites have similar rituals, the more morally repulsive the better.

The prospects are eager to incriminate themselves because joining the gang will bring them power. But self-incrimination also gives the gang power over its members, who must obey lest they be exposed and humiliated. And of course worse sanctions are waiting in the wings, as Jeffrey Epstein reminds us.

... ... ...

But for all its faults, Eyes Wide Shut has two important messages to which today's Dissident Rightists are particularly receptive. It dramatizes important truths about man-woman relationships and displays how sexual perversion is a tool of elite control. If you already know the score on these matters, however, you might not want to suffer through two hours and forty minutes of Cruise and Kidman.

[Sep 30, 2019] Epstein Connection to CIA and DynCorp -- Steemit

Sep 30, 2019 | steemit.com

Your browser indicates if you've visited this link https://steemit.com /epstein/@krnel/epstein-connection-to-cia-and-dyncorp The sex trafficking network has connections to the CIA and DynCorp. A special report on Occurrences: Foreign and Domestic identified Epstein's suspected trafficking vehicle, a small plane, which had the "same tail number as a State department Bronco used under contract by DynCorp."

[Sep 24, 2019] Jeffrey Epstein claims additional Trump people were in on his plea deal by Bill Palmer

Jul 16, 2019 | www.unz.com

According to the Washington Post, Epstein's legal team is claiming that Sigal Mandelker is one of the people at the DOJ who signed off on the lenient plea deal. This is eye popping, because Donald Trump ended up appointing Mandelker as Under Secretary of the Treasury. Epstein is also claiming that Alice Fisher signed off on the deal, which is also eye popping when you consider that according to Politico, Donald Trump interviewed Fisher to be FBI Director. Again, this is on top of Trump having appointed Alexander Acosta as his Secretary of Labor.


Fisher is telling the Washington Post that she did not approve the Epstein deal. There's obviously a paper trail for this kind of plea deal showing who was and was not involved, and it'll surface. If Epstein is falsely accusing these people, it'll only make his legal troubles even worse. What stands out is that Epstein and Trump clearly have conflicting goals here


Jeffrey Epstein is trying to prove that some of the people currently running the federal government are the same people who already gave him a plea deal, and thus they shouldn't get to bring new charges against him for the same crimes. That's a feeble argument that's unlikely to go anywhere, but it's all that Epstein has left. It just so happens that in the process, Epstein is pointing to additional Trump people who were (allegedly) in on the original plot to let Epstein off the hook. This whole thing is getting uglier by the minute.

[Sep 24, 2019] Sigal Mandelker, the Zionist Under Secretary of the Treasury in charge of enforcing sanctions and boycotts, was one of the high-ranking Department of Justice officials who signed off on the nonprosecution agreement with Jeffrey Epstein in 2008

Sep 24, 2019 | www.unz.com

lysias , says: September 23, 2019 at 3:00 pm GMT

Sigal Mandelker , the Zionist Under Secretary of the Treasury in charge of enforcing sanctions and boycotts, was one of the high-ranking Department of Justice officials who signed off on the nonprosecution agreement with Jeffrey Epstein in 2008.

Was she the one who told Acosta to back off on Epstein, as he belonged to intelligence and was above Acosta's pay grade?

[Sep 13, 2019] Epstein, like Maxwell, was laying the groundwork for Israeli espionage activities

Sep 13, 2019 | www.counterpunch.org

Media tycoon and former Labour MP Robert Maxwell (father of Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein's partner in crime) was given a state funeral in Jerusalem after *accidentally* falling off his yacht – the unluckily named "Lady Ghislaine". Later it was revealed Maxwell Sr was a Mossad asset who used his vast network of connections and publishing platforms to run editorial interference over his purchased assets to influence enemies and friends alike, ensuring their fealty to the foreign government that had enlisted him for its espionage work.

His tabloid empire was the piss-colored propaganda organ of the interests he served, overseeing its rapid growth and tentacled reach across the globe. More ominously, he was behind the spy agency's successful attempt to install a trapdoor in software intended for government use, allowing the Israelis a direct pipeline into a vast network of computers installed with undectable malware.

At the time of his death, the disgraced magnate was under investigation for raiding his companies' pension funds to cover the losses incurred from his multiple and reckless takeovers, and finance a luxury lifestyle he enjoyed sharing with high profile pals like Henry Kissinger and Barbara Walters. Curiously, many of these fossilized specimens from Robert Maxwell's roster of friends from the Reagan era would circle around Epstein, most notably Donald Trump whose Mar-a-Lago resort would later become a recruiting center for employer Epstein's underage "massage therapists".

Fast forward a couple of decades since the days a casino mogul was gobbling down canapés with the old guard denizens of the 'swamp'. Notice a similar, if not identical MO in both Maxwell and Epstein's role in procuring technology for the Israelis, who in turn sold it with undisclosed add-ons, providing an open window into its users' databases.

Like his predecessor, Epstein had a financial stake in a startup (headed by former Israeli Defense Minister and later Prime Minister Ehud Barak) connected to Israel's defense industry that provides infrastructure for emergency services as a call handling platform. Considering the company's connection to military intelligence, it wouldn't be a stretch to speculate on some of this software's other 'special' features. A variation of the early technology that Maxwell was able to procure for his Israeli bosses was later sold to the Saudis, who leveraged its sophisticated tracking features to assassinate Jamal Khashoggi.

Epstein, like Maxwell, was laying the groundwork for Israeli espionage activities through his interests in companies with a political agenda concealed in products intended for international export. If true, the playboy philanthropist feted and flattered his high profile friends to ensnare them as complicit partners in what amounts to the legal definition of treason. Epstein's covert activities have undiminished real world consequences for anyone on Israel's international radar, especially those challenging the status quo policies in place that prioritize "The Jewish State's" political and financial objectives over actual justice and global stability.

If you have ever asked yourself why Israel's war crimes and settlement expansion go unchallenged by US lawmakers, consider the career destroying consequences contained within those dossiers compiled by the braintrust behind Epstein's 'suicide'. "We'll trade you one US Embassy in Jerusalem for 10 minutes of hidden camera footage of you . . . let's say 'enjoying' a rolled up Forbes magazine".

Were the surveillance apparatuses installed throughout Epstein's properties merely a voyeur's tools, or did he use them to leverage the moral failings of his former friends for purposes that might have risked exposure of more than the nether regions of wealthy pedo-punters? Considering his connections to Israeli defense industries and his own Achilles penis that required, by his own admission, "three orgasms a day", the answer points to an unslakable addiction that dovetailed conveniently with his state-sponsored sex crimes.

Did Epstein make the same mistake of Maxwell (who had asked for nearly half a billion dollar in "loans" from his Israeli backers to relieve him of his mounting debts) believing the dirt he had in his possession would prove radioactive if released? By this time, the corpulent tycoon was nicknamed the 'Bouncing Czech' a reference in most part to his worsening money woes. The implication of this request, if turned down, was the exposure of Israel's state secrets. Epstein could have also attempted to collateralize the cache of damning evidence still in his possession to secure his his freedom with the same fatal consequences.

Both Maxwell and Epstein somehow evaded the electronics that linked them to the outside world at the time of their deaths, even though the latter had reportedly made an attempt on his own life while in custody. Both men, facing ruination and serious prison time gave their executioners an alibi: They had nothing to left to live for. The establishment media is already trotting out ancient, ding-a-ling conspiracy theories from obscure right wing sources (attributed to Russia, of course) to highlight the absurdity and futility of questioning the official story of Epstein's death. Verdict: Nothing to see here.

By now, it's a given that the parasitic and preferred daughter of the deceased tycoon, made the fateful introduction between her new boyfriend and the Israeli operatives seeking an entry level plutocrat to carry out their blackmail operations after the untimely death of his predecessor. An impoverished socialite has to survive in pricey Manhattan somehow, and that somehow was re-establishing the shady connections to the espionage underworld that had recruited Maxwell Sr.

Ghislaine's later role as Epstein's Chief Procurement Officer (or pimp for short) gives more credence to the rumors that she is more than just a debased, barnacle-like appendage to a billionaire, desperate to please her platonic partner by "organizing his social life", but a fully cognizant co-conspirator in an operation aimed at strengthening Israel's hand in all matters pertaining to its national security interests, or more accurately, its overseas criminal enterprises.

The recent raid on Epstein's Manhattan apartment was not the result of a so-called Justice Department righting the egregious wrong it committed by letting Epstein off with a slap on the wrist after his initial conviction that allowed him to serve his sentence largely outside the minimum-security facility with an open door policy for its billionaire guest. More likely, the reversal of Epstein's "sweetheart" deal was a joint operation between the oligarch cabal informally known as the Mega-Group, and the state security apparatuses that do their bidding.

It's seems likely that this sudden pivot towards justice from a Justice Department initially spooked into inaction by the spook in his custody, was motivated by the need to remove the most damning bits among Epstein's vast trove of physical evidence against the pervy punters who visited his island getaway for unintended photo ops with underage girls.

Perhaps his own abuse of these minors was a perk he felt entitled to, and one that would be overlooked in the service of "national security". It's hard for most people to differentiate between the government he actually worked for and the ruling establishment on his home turf.

It's possible that Epstein felt his serial transgressions were merely par for the plutocracy and justified in the service of a higher calling.

The 'Israel First' philanthropist shared an unyielding ideological justification for his own criminality as Robert Maxwell, whom the British Home Office had considered recruiting for its own intelligence gathering in the mid 1960's. Having determined that the well-connected, multilingual, rising star politician was strictly "Zionist", the spy agency withdrew his candidacy.

Epstein's real crimes had little to do with raping children, despite the overturned plea deal that came about when a federal judge ruled that prosecutors had violated the victims rights by by concealing the agreement from them. The one time teflon-coated "member of intelligence" who was "above the pay grade" of a powerful District Attorney (now a now scandal-tainted former Labor Secretary) was ultimately (and lethally) penalized for not destroying the contents of his secret-laden safes, leaving his handlers still vulnerable to their explosive contents.

Had the doomed financier divested himself of the toxic assets still in his possession, he might still be roaming the earth today, scouring it for new specimens to populate his underage petting zoo. As a result of the Justice Department's decision to reverse the non-prosecution deal meant to bury the most incendiary facts of the case, lower-rung punters like former governor Bill Richardson and Senator George Mitchell are being publicly named for their part in the sordid scandal. Someone has to take the fall. (Rule number one of PR crisis management: Crucify the insignificant and let them hang out to dry until the public tires of watching the slow motion spectacle of their undoing.) Meanwhile, documented and/or photographic evidence against more powerful players like Bill Clinton and Donald Trump will have already been destroyed in the pursuit of selective justice.

The fallout of Epstein's spectacular downfall predictably miss the mark as scandals involving the rich and powerful tend to do. Much of the controversy will dissolve into a Cheetoh dust maelstrom of disinformation, disseminated on Reddit and 4Chan by incel info-warriors before shooting up a shopping mall or playground.

Subsequent reporting of the case will overlook decades of the elite-driven state craft that elevated corrupt and ruthless entities like Epstein and Trump, both ring-kissing acolytes in their youth of influential mob fixer/politcal power broker Roy Cohn – himself a serial sexual predator who similarly caught the fancy of fellow deviants Joe McCarthy and J. Edgar Hoover. Follow the money trail from Tel Aviv and you'll discover an ancestral link between the corpse of Epstein and his ghostly godfathers waiting with his rewards in hell.

Along with the other disgraced and expendable patsies left in the wake of this ongoing scandal is Alan Dershowitz, Epstein's octogenarian chief legal counsel and 'wing man' aboard the Lolita Express. The now unemployable cable news pundit will live out the remainder of his pointless life under a cloud of suspicion. Despite all the damning testimony against him, the statutory rape allegations never quite stick, but follow him around like a sneaky fart, forcing a distance between himself and the rest of humanity that will last until he is engulfed by the sulfurous fumes of his own making.

The former Harvard law professor's lifelong service to Israel will go unrewarded – not as a result of victim testimony placing him at multiple crime scenes, but in consideration of his own inept self-defense strategy: "I'm a scurvy rat aboard a sinking ship eating its own tail to stay alive. Pity me"! Dershowitz at this point will be lucky if he can achieve the same pay grade and social status of Lindsay Lohan. Ditto for Prince Andrew who can at least be relied on to expire slowly of gout in his time-out corner at Windsor Castle.

The moral of this story could be "Lie down with dogs and never wake up again with a prison-issued sheet around your neck". A variation of the old "Lie down with dogs and and wake up as fish food". Join the debate on Facebook More articles by: Jennifer Matsui

Jennifer Matsui is a writer living in Tokyo and a columnist for the print edition of CounterPunch magazine .

[Sep 13, 2019] Several women procured girls for Epstein, then were granted immunity. Why ?

Sep 13, 2019 | www.unz.com

Bumpkin , says: September 11, 2019 at 10:52 am GMT

Seen some good Epstein links that commenters throw up here, thought I'd add some that I read recently:

– A literary agent named John Brockman was pushing Epstein fairly brazenly:

"Jeffrey Epstein, the billionaire science philanthropist showed up at this weekend's event by helicopter (with his beautiful young assistant from Belarus) He also got into trouble and spent a year in jail in Florida. If he contacts you it's probably worth your time to meet him as he's extremely bright and interesting the cover of the NYpost had a full-page photo of Jeffrey and Andrew walking in Central Park under the headline: 'The Prince and the Perv.' (That was the end of Andrew's role at the UK trade ambassador.)"
https://newrepublic.com/article/154826/jeffrey-epsteins-intellectual-enabler

– Two sisters reported Epstein decades ago, nothing happened, even after one got death threats from Ghislaine Maxwell:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/26/us/epstein-farmer-sisters-maxwell.html

– Scientist Steven Pinker and head of MIT Media lab Joi Ito caught up in it:

https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2019/07/12/tarring-steve-pinker-and-others-with-jeffrey-epstein/
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-an-elite-university-research-center-concealed-its-relationship-with-jeffrey-epstein

– Several women procured girls for Epstein, then were granted immunity:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epsteins-alleged-accomplices-where-are-sarah-kellen-nadia-marcinkova-adriana-ross-and-lesley-groff

As for the above piece, interesting stuff and probably mostly true, but needs to be edited better.

[Sep 13, 2019] Gordon Thomas on Robert Maxwell/Mossad Espionage Project in the USA and Beyond

Sep 13, 2019 | www.unz.com

wesmouch , says: September 11, 2019 at 5:23 pm GMT

@Wally Read the complete 4 part series at mint press. She outlines Israeli/Mossad connections to the Mega group, organized crime connections to the mega group, Epstein connections to the Mega group, Les Wexner connections to organized crime and CIA, Mossad spying on Clinton, attempts by Mossad to install backdoor software to spy via PROMIS which was sold by Robert Maxwell and was installed in Los Alamos nuclear laboratory, etc.

Also the connections of Epstein and Barak to Calybr software which is a potential spy application.

Even more so is the attempt by Paul Singer to populate US technology firms with former Israeli intelligence assets.

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anon [113] Disclaimer , says: September 12, 2019 at 6:30 am GMT
@wesmouch Agreed. Their obsessions blind them to the huge story unfolding before our eyes. Have you looked at Gilad Atzmon's post about Gordon Thomas?

His interview is in the last 25 minutes of the TruNews video.

The beauty of Epstein is that they're only hiding the deeper story. They haven't created some heroic counter-narrative. So everyone knows Epstein's name, and they know he was a creep.

Gordon Thomas on Robert Maxwell/Mossad Espionage Project in the USA and Beyond

http://www.unz.com/gatzmon/gordon-thomas-on-robert-maxwell-mossad-espionage-project-in-the-usa-and-beyond/

[Sep 10, 2019] Being called a narcissist by Jim Comey is akin to being accused of having sex with underage girls by the late Jeffrey Epstein by Larry C Johnsons

Highly recommended!
Sep 04, 2019 | turcopolier.typepad.com

Diana C ,

"Being called a narcissist by Jim Comey is akin to being accused of having sex with underage girls by the late Jeffrey Epstein."

As usual, your analogy here is spot on. I'm still giggling.

[Sep 10, 2019] How Deep Is the Rot in America s Institutions by Charles Hugh Smith

Highly recommended!
The question why the USA intelligence agencies were "unaware" about Epstein activities is an interesting one. Similar question can be asked about Hillary "activities" related to "Clinton cash".
Actually the way the USA elite deal with scandals is to ostracize any whistleblower and silence any media that tryt to dig the story. Open repression including physical elimination is seldom used those days as indirect methods are quite effective.
Notable quotes:
"... Either we root out every last source of rot by investigating, indicting and jailing every wrong-doer and everyone who conspired to protect the guilty in the Epstein case, or America will have sealed its final fall. ..."
"... If you doubt this, then please explain how 1) the NSA, CIA and FBI didn't know what Jeffrey Epstein was up to, and with whom; 2) Epstein was free to pursue his sexual exploitation of minors for years prior to his wrist-slap conviction and for years afterward; 3) Epstein, the highest profile and most at-risk prisoner in the nation, was left alone and the security cameras recording his cell and surroundings were "broken." ..."
"... America's ruling class has crucified whistleblowers , especially those uncovering fraud in the defense (military-industrial-security) and financial (tax evasion) sectors and blatant violations of public trust, civil liberties and privacy. ..."
"... Needless to say, a factual accounting of corruption, cronyism, incompetence, self-serving exploitation of the many by the few, etc. is not welcome in America. Look at the dearth of investigative resources America's corporate media is devoting to digging down to the deepest levels of rot in the Epstein case. ..."
Sep 09, 2019 | www.oftwominds.com

Either we root out every last source of rot by investigating, indicting and jailing every wrong-doer and everyone who conspired to protect the guilty in the Epstein case, or America will have sealed its final fall.

When you discover rot in an apparently sound structure, the first question is: how far has the rot penetrated? If the rot has reached the foundation and turned it to mush, the structure is one wind-storm from collapse.

How deep has the rot of corruption, fraud, abuse of power, betrayal of the public trust, blatant criminality and insiders protecting the guilty penetrated America's key public and private institutions? It's difficult to tell, as the law-enforcement and security agencies are themselves hopelessly compromised.

If you doubt this, then please explain how 1) the NSA, CIA and FBI didn't know what Jeffrey Epstein was up to, and with whom; 2) Epstein was free to pursue his sexual exploitation of minors for years prior to his wrist-slap conviction and for years afterward; 3) Epstein, the highest profile and most at-risk prisoner in the nation, was left alone and the security cameras recording his cell and surroundings were "broken."

If this all strikes you as evidence that America's security and law-enforcement institutions are functioning at a level that's above reproach, then 1) you're a well-paid shill who's protecting the guilty lest your own misdeeds come to light or 2) your consumption of mind-bending meds is off the charts.

How deep has the rot gone in America's ruling elite? One way to measure the depth of the rot is to ask how whistleblowers who've exposed the ugly realities of insider dealing, malfeasance, tax evasion, cover-ups, etc. have fared.

America's ruling class has crucified whistleblowers , especially those uncovering fraud in the defense (military-industrial-security) and financial (tax evasion) sectors and blatant violations of public trust, civil liberties and privacy.

Needless to say, a factual accounting of corruption, cronyism, incompetence, self-serving exploitation of the many by the few, etc. is not welcome in America. Look at the dearth of investigative resources America's corporate media is devoting to digging down to the deepest levels of rot in the Epstein case.

The closer wrong-doing and wrong-doers are to protected power-elites, the less attention the mass media devotes to them.

... ... ...

Here are America's media, law enforcement/security agencies and "leadership" class: they speak no evil, see no evil and hear no evil, in the misguided belief that their misdirection, self-service and protection of the guilty will make us buy the narrative that America's ruling elite and all the core institutions they manage aren't rotten to the foundations.

Either we root out every last source of rot by investigating, indicting and jailing every wrong-doer and everyone who conspired to protect the guilty in the Epstein case, or America will have sealed its final fall.

[Sep 09, 2019] So what had happened in 2014? I guess, some people had decided that Epstein needed to be taken out.

Definitely there is lack of facts regarding Epstein, only plausible hypothesis. But it does not make Epstein affair less dangerous or less sordid. For example, the role of Wexner in it.
Notable quotes:
"... The issue is never whether Epstein was a criminal. The issue is whether Epstein was the mastermind of a vast pedophile conspiracy masquerading as the Democrat Party, whether he made his fortune as a pimp selling pre-pubescent little girls to Democrats, whether his extortion made him millions or even tens of millions, whether Epstein's services to the pedophile conspiracy of the Democrat Party turned the Democrat Party into a bunch a Zionist traitors. Those are the issues. Saying it's about minimizing the crime is a lie meant to ram through everything else. ..."
"... I am not convinced its Jews, I propose situs to be within the inter-sanctum of Economic Zionism, Jewishness is not required for admission... ..."
"... Epstein never took on young women with resources, he recruited those who had none. This whole scene has little to do with sexual norms and everything to do with the power of money over poverty, privilege over disenfranchisement, resource over hollowness. ..."
"... It's a class struggle, as with everything else. ..."
"... Whitney Webb at mintpressnews.com has described how Jewish gangsters provided blackmail services to CIA/FBI and how Epstein was connected to the 'Mega Group' of billionaire Jewish philanthropists (some with gangster pasts) as well as other groups and individuals that are likely to have connections to Mossad. ..."
"... People were talking about trafficking young women, most of them from impoverished backgrounds or dysfunctional families afflicted by violence or alcoholism, and recruited with promises of easy wealth and security, as prostitutes / sex slaves for wealthy men. No-one was talking about consent laws. ..."
"... Michael Chertoff, who ran Homeland Security under former president George W. Bush, serves on Carbyne's advisory board. Chertoff wrote the Patriot Act, which authorised sweeping digital surveillance of Americans. ..."
"... Given that Epstein spent only 13 months in jail for what appears to be a 38-year crime-spree, how did Epstein evade justice? The answer may lie in a gentlemen's agreement shaping the Israeli-US intelligence relationship. Essentially, spies can operate with impunity when both countries agree on the same security objectives. ..."
"... With a technology and espionage sector rife with criminals like Epstein, Chinese and Russian oligarch investors; there is more than meets the eye to Israel's intelligence. More critically, its security industry may be more compromised and unrestricted than the rest of the world is able to recognise. ..."
"... Victims' lawyers Lisa Bloom and David Boies used to work for Harvey Weinstein involving Black Cube - Lisa Bloom advised on how to smear the accusers. ..."
"... MIT establishes the trends in terms of nowadays Academia. US prestige. What is funded. Result: European and Arab sheeps aka decision makers going 100% technology, hard science and hyper-specialization. ..."
"... ben@67 somehow thinks that if I remind anyone that the goal of the Epstein re-run is to paint the Democratic Party, almost officially known as the Democrat Party by Republicans, as a monstrous pedophile conspiracy operated by Jew gangsters, I am endorsing this madness. ..."
"... Witney Webb at mintpressnews.com has described a history of blackmail ops by Jews in USA that preceded Epstein (Lewis Rosenstiel, Meyer Lansky, Roy Cohn). It's not antisemitic to take note of this anymore than it would be anti-Italian to note that the mafia is run by Italian families. And this history has nothing to do with partisan politics. ..."
Sep 09, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org
somebody , Sep 8 2019 20:35 utc | 42
Posted by: b | Sep 8 2019 18:47 utc | 36

BTW - the whole Epstein issue only creeped up again because one reporter at McClatchy dug into the old files, spent some shoe lather and talked to witnesses. It had exactly zero to do with Trump.

Journalists don't just "dig up" issues that had been closed 10 years ago. Julie K. Brown worked for the Miami Herald in 2008 when the sweet deal was done. She did not start digging then. Journalists (and photographers) go to work because someone gives them a tip that this will be a huge story. The context is always political.

For ten years the Epstein issue had been successfully kept out of the news.
What had changed ?

When Julie K Brown of the Miami Herald approached a former police chief of Palm Beach, Florida, in 2017, hoping to get him to open up about his investigation of the child sex crimes for which the wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein had been fleetingly jailed a decade earlier, she was surprised by how unresponsive he was.

Michael Reiter told Brown he had been down this road many times and was sick of it. As Brown recalled in a WNYC interview last month, Reiter said he had talked to many reporters and told them precisely where to find damning evidence against Epstein. But nothing ever came of it.

"He was convinced that a lot of media had squashed the story and he was fed up," she said. Reiter warned Brown what would happen were she to continue digging: "Somebody's going to call your publisher and the next thing you know you are going to be assigned to the obituaries department."

Julie K. Brown obviously had the support from her paper in doing what she was doing. Something seems to have happened in 2014 when Virginia Giuffre got a first class pro bono lawyer . Successful pro bono cases are PR for law firms, so David Boies likely had a hunch something was going to happen and this was before Trump and before the Weinstein case.

So what had happened in 2014? I guess, some people had decided that Epstein needed to be taken out.

That he was part of a (Israel run) blackmail campaign becomes obvious when one looks at the connections.

Connections are to Iran-Contra.


AuGold , Sep 8 2019 21:01 utc | 46

@4 steven t johnson - check out some of George Webb's youtube videos pertaining to Epstein .. he believe the pedophile angle is largely missing the point and that Epstein represented a drug / weapons trade more than anything if i recall correctly.. interesting take at the very least
steven t johnson , Sep 8 2019 22:04 utc | 50
"Connection" are Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon. No, it is not at all certain Epstein was a spy.

Nor is it certain Epstein was pimping an army of girls or an extortionist, much less that he made hundreds of millions from it. The allegations are that the girls were recruited by other girls, who would be the ones turning their friends into prostitutes. It is amazingly unclear that the recruiters were paid. It is clear Epstein was a customer, which is indeed criminal.

I have no idea how you can honestly excuse the alleged accomplices (which you and everyone else really do.) The girls were reportedly neglected and abused by their families but the families get excused too, because apparently sexual purity is far more important than anything else about these girls.

The issue is never whether Epstein was a criminal. The issue is whether Epstein was the mastermind of a vast pedophile conspiracy masquerading as the Democrat Party, whether he made his fortune as a pimp selling pre-pubescent little girls to Democrats, whether his extortion made him millions or even tens of millions, whether Epstein's services to the pedophile conspiracy of the Democrat Party turned the Democrat Party into a bunch a Zionist traitors. Those are the issues. Saying it's about minimizing the crime is a lie meant to ram through everything else.

Last the notion that Trump has nothing to do with the Justice Department as it started what may have been a violation of double jeopardy to attack the Democrats for the upcoming election is excessively naive. Acost wasn't even on good ground with Trump at the Labor Department, either. The notion that Acosta wasn't concerned with Republican Party politics in 2008 is about as dubious.

snake | Sep 8 2019 15:25 utc | 7

Mr. Steven t Johnson.@4.. Epstein affairs may expose CIA and others throughout world.. people are dying and retiring and hiding..

AFAICT.. deep state <=> CIA <=> Epstein <=> Universities <=>foundations <=> NGOs <=> Bureaucracies <=> monopoly powered private corporations

I am not convinced its Jews, I propose situs to be within the inter-sanctum of Economic Zionism, Jewishness is not required for admission...

Grieved , Sep 8 2019 22:41 utc | 51

@36 b - "It is solely the grown up..."

Thank you for pouring some cold water on the "Jailbait Nostalgia Hour" discussion that was simmering. Jesus...

~~

@ 42 dh - "...well brought up but ultimately one can only hope they are immune"

Of course they are immune - they have resources that you and your family have given them to operate in this world. They are thus not helpless and vulnerable.

Epstein never took on young women with resources, he recruited those who had none. This whole scene has little to do with sexual norms and everything to do with the power of money over poverty, privilege over disenfranchisement, resource over hollowness.

It's a class struggle, as with everything else.

Jackrabbit , Sep 8 2019 23:02 utc | 53
somebody @42

So what had happened in 2014?

Maybe Israel/Mossad tried to use their blackmail material after Russia blocked Obama from bombing Syria? Isn't that when calls for a 'No-fly Zone' started?

Connections are to Iran-Contra.

The "connections" go well beyond Iran-Contra. Whitney Webb at mintpressnews.com has described how Jewish gangsters provided blackmail services to CIA/FBI and how Epstein was connected to the 'Mega Group' of billionaire Jewish philanthropists (some with gangster pasts) as well as other groups and individuals that are likely to have connections to Mossad.

Her latest: How the CIA, Mossad and "the Epstein Network" are Exploiting Mass Shootings to Create an Orwellian Nightmare .

Jackrabbit , Sep 8 2019 23:19 utc | 55
steven t johnson @50

Possibly the most disturbing whataboutism I've ever seen.

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It is amazingly unclear that the recruiters were paid.

How stupid do you think we are?

The girls were reportedly neglected and abused by their families ...

Epstein chose to victimize those that he could most easily control.

The issue is never whether Epstein was a criminal.

Epstein is a convicted sex offender.

somebody , Sep 9 2019 0:03 utc | 60
Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 8 2019 23:02 utc | 53

A lot of this is conjecture. Epstein's funding a certain type of research certainly looks like him acting as a kind of front possibly a CIA front.

The way he was shielded from the law in 2008 suggests he was a US secret service asset for what other agencies he might have worked for or not.

It looks like Victoria Giuffre moving from Australia back to the United States made all the difference .

Giuffre said she contacted the FBI in April 2014, months after she moved back to the United States. "But, it seemed like the hands of [assistant U.S. Attorney Marie] Villafaña and the FBI were always tied by someone else with more authority," she said.
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Jen , Sep 9 2019 0:28 utc | 63
Bevin @ 61:

No-one was talking about paedophilia on this comments thread until you decided to butt in and mention it. What are you trying to insinuate?

People were talking about trafficking young women, most of them from impoverished backgrounds or dysfunctional families afflicted by violence or alcoholism, and recruited with promises of easy wealth and security, as prostitutes / sex slaves for wealthy men. No-one was talking about consent laws.

The more you pontificate on this issue in the way you have done on past MoA comments forums and elsewhere, as though to muddy the conversation with irrelevant information about age of consent laws and how to slice-n-dice the definition of paedophilia, encourages people to suspect you have a hidden agenda, and perhaps not a pleasant one at that.

Jackrabbit , Sep 9 2019 0:44 utc | 64
bevin defends perversity with circular logic that will make your head spin.

40 year olds with 14 year olds? Its only natural, he claims. To think otherwise is defending the wealthy who have imposed this outrage upon us . Yeah, the old scumbags that want to bed 14 year olds TRICKED us into enacting bizarre laws that protect our children from them. LOL.

It would all be devilishly clever, if we were stupid enough to believe bevin's outlandish drivel.

Jackrabbit , Sep 9 2019 2:41 utc | 68
Why are 4 or 5 MoA regulars defending Epstein - weeks after his demise?

Who would defend Epstein except hasbara propagandists? They know that Epstein is Jewish and believed to be (with good reason!) a key member of a Mossad blackmail op.

It's almost comical to see them in action. @4 steven t johnson wraps his pro-Epstein views in the colors of democracy but his STFU message comes through loud and clear.

ben , Sep 9 2019 3:12 utc | 72
I don't get the confusion over the Pimp Epstein, perverse purveyor of young women to the rich and famous.

Ain't rocket science, it's as old as humanity..

uncle tungsten , Sep 9 2019 3:21 utc | 73
Thank you jackrabbit #68, the combined effort of the apologist team is disgusting and totally exposes their ulterior motive - to excuse the Maxwell and Wexner complicity in this ongoing crime. THESE TWO above all else must be protected by lowering the Maxwell Smart cone of silence.

Your succinct rebuttal is welcome as are the sane words of jen.

A User , Sep 9 2019 3:25 utc | 74
When I stumbled across the New Yorker article about the Epstein rock spider's control over MIT Media Labs, the first thing which occurred to me was "that's interesting, WTF does this MIT Media Labs thing do?"
After googling, duckduck going and yandexing this joint I am still none the wiser.
eg Check out this sleazy operation's wikipedia page & see if you become enlightened.

No? Same here, I particularly like this piece of what used to be called guff:

"Some recurring themes of work at the Media Lab include human adaptability,[18] human computer interaction, education and communication, artistic creation and visualization, and designing technology for the developing world. Other research focus includes machines with common sense, sociable robots, prosthetics, sensor networks, musical devices, city design, and public health. Research programs all include iterative development of prototypes which are tested and displayed for visitors"
.

Hmm not good, the news media is saturated with articles about how the rock spider would turn up to meetings with a female child on each arm, a couple of scientist virtue signalled how they would rescuse the children although none did, yet there isn't anything anywhere in any article which specifically deals with what was discussed. Isn't that rather odd?

I thought so then I came across this list of Media Lab spin off corporations .

Nearly all the corporations listed had links to their web site conveniently included which was handy since apart from Buzz Feed News I was unfamiliar with most.
I Haven't included any links altho the 'about page of Buzz Feed is an indication of their propaganda bent and the Crowd Supply page had me wondering if MIT Media Labs was about developing spy ware.
Well spyware and a lot of other nefarious shit I would say. No wonder MIT bosses rid themselves of Joi Ito so fast, not doing so would almost certainly have caused investigation of the Media Labs and could have caused some otherwise dutiful believers to wonder if MIT really was into 'academic objectivity'.

Peter AU 1 , Sep 9 2019 3:45 utc | 78
"WTF does this MIT Media Labs thing do?"

A good guess would be research regime change and population control, foreign and domestic.
From your wiki link ..
"The Media Lab was founded in 1985 by Nicholas Negroponte and former MIT President Jerome Wiesner, and is housed in the Wiesner Building (designed by I. M. Pei), also known as Building E15. The Lab has been written about in the popular press since 1988, when Stewart Brand published The Media Lab: Inventing the Future at M.I.T., and its work was a regular feature of technology journals in the 1990s. In 2009, it expanded into a second building"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Negroponte
"In August 2007, he was appointed to a five-member special committee with the objective of assuring the continued journalistic and editorial integrity and independence of the Wall Street Journal and other Dow Jones & Company publications and services"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wall_Street_Journal
"August 1, 2007, News Corporation and Dow Jones entered into a definitive merger agreement.[31] The US$5 billion sale added The Wall Street Journal to Rupert Murdoch's news empire, ..."

A User , Sep 9 2019 5:48 utc | 93
Well that is interesting as it seems many posters prefer discussing tabloid gossip whose effect is pretty much confined to the participants, than issues which could effect all of us.

Peter AU, one of the few who considered this highly relevant issue, has interpreted the Media Lab mission statement or WTF it is as, "research regime change and population control, foreign and domestic ", which it may well be that open ended guff at the site certainly doesn't preclude it but it also doesn't satisfy my point about how it is that everyone in journalism appears completely untroubled by the complete paucity of information that an organisation which troubles them because of its close relationship with a notorious rock spider, has been permitted to blithely skate through upon.
If this organisation is shady because it enabled Epstein's reprehensible behaviour surely that organ of democracy, a free press would also check out what it was that this organisation did to attract the largesse of a pedophile.
Incidentally FWIW, I have no doubt that the Epstein gang committed genuinely evil acts against children.

There was a link here a coupla months back to a Whitney Webb article which detailed how one of Epstein's 'girls' had been kidnapped off a NJ street when her mother went into a store to pay for some takeaway pizza. That 'young adult' was 11 years old and she had to endure an argument between Epstein & one of his clients about which one had the 'right'
to take her vaginal virginity after both had just sodomized her.
Tell me again this was just a bit of fun between some high spirited fellas.

I have known a few women 'on the game' in the course of my life and too many of them had horror stories of pre-teen rape and other abuse in their past for me to believe that it is all jolly hockeysticks and bluebells. I should also point out that where I live prostitution has been legal for more than 20 years.
It makes no difference because although some women are smart and self-motivated enough to dealt with the hypocrisy of a society which allows prostitution while is disparages the prostitutes, reality is that a majority of women hawk their forks because they have been made to feel that their vaginas are their sole marketable feature, and the disparagement they cop from nearly every part of society reinforces that.
People who have been subjected to abuse as a child frequently have a substandard education because for example, at the time other kids are asking their Dads to lend a hand with a science project, they are having to devote their time and energy to ensuring that they are never alone in a room with 'Dad'.

Peter AU 1 , Sep 9 2019 6:30 utc | 96
The MIT founder is associated with Murdoch who was a founding member of Reagan's perception management. The MIT's founder was put in charge of Murdoch's propaganda purchase to ensure editorial integrity.
MIT researches perception management.
The wheel revolves.
phiw13 , Sep 9 2019 6:54 utc | 97
@ A User | Sep 9 2019 5:48 utc | 94

MIT are the techbros par excellence . From the very early days of the "internet" and personal computers, they were at the forefront to popularises this thing (and making all its surveillance / spying / controlling origins.

See Yasha Levine's "Surveillance valley".

chu teh , Sep 9 2019 9:21 utc | 100
somebody | Sep 9 2019 7:58 utc | 100

..."We will develop a scenario for obtaining private funding," ...

Drug trade + weapons trade + energy prime sources trade [petroleum and U235 + nuclear reactors] operating under "cover of law" using "national security" as perfect cover to enable secret/off-the-books operations by private groups without actual government oversight. The surveillance/assassination state.

A. McCoy [Politics of Heroin in S Asia] explained how, under DeGaulle, France was able to covertly fund secret operations after WW2 using opiate drugs. The above is the natural extension of that successful policy.

That is Epstien's world. His pedophilia is a sensational attention grabber [Hey! Look at that red herring!] albeit despicable, so we do not see the rest.

All of us have been programmed, some more spinny than others but most unable to confront the utter lies of the collapse of WorkdTradeCenter Bldg. #7 or the JFK Magic Bullet or What were we doing killing millions in Viet Nam and leaving the legacy of unexploded bomblets and Agent Orange.

somebody , Sep 9 2019 9:32 utc | 101
Posted by: chu teh | Sep 9 2019 9:21 utc | 102

More Epstein's world

Jeffery Epstein was arrested on July 6 for the sex trafficking of minors within the US.

The billionaire shared the same personal network that included Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, former Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak, infamous Blackwater founder Erik Prince, Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, UAE Crown Prince Mohamed bin Zayed, Donald Trump and Bill Clinton.

Israeli ties notwithstanding, the Carbyne investor and advisory board brought strong ties to the US military-industrial complex.

Michael Chertoff, who ran Homeland Security under former president George W. Bush, serves on Carbyne's advisory board. Chertoff wrote the Patriot Act, which authorised sweeping digital surveillance of Americans.

Peter Thiel, one of the founders of Paypal, Facebook and Palantir, is also a Carbyne investor.

Thiel is an avid Trump supporter, and is heavily invested in military and intelligence companies. Thiel's Palantir is described as making use of "war on terror tools to track American citizens".

Trae Stephens, another co-founder of Palantir, is on Carbyne's advisory board. Stephens also served as the head of Trump's Department of Defense transition team.

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Given that Epstein spent only 13 months in jail for what appears to be a 38-year crime-spree, how did Epstein evade justice? The answer may lie in a gentlemen's agreement shaping the Israeli-US intelligence relationship. Essentially, spies can operate with impunity when both countries agree on the same security objectives.

With a technology and espionage sector rife with criminals like Epstein, Chinese and Russian oligarch investors; there is more than meets the eye to Israel's intelligence. More critically, its security industry may be more compromised and unrestricted than the rest of the world is able to recognise.

For nations not in the know, it could mean their security and privacy. For authoritarian leaders, the no-qualms approach Israel offers could be the opportunity of a lifetime.

somebody , Sep 9 2019 9:37 utc | 102
It is all a small world where everybody trades across party lines and countries.

Victims' lawyers Lisa Bloom and David Boies used to work for Harvey Weinstein involving Black Cube - Lisa Bloom advised on how to smear the accusers.

Mina , Sep 9 2019 10:50 utc | 105
Ref MIT lab
MIT establishes the trends in terms of nowadays Academia. US prestige. What is funded. Result: European and Arab sheeps aka decision makers going 100% technology, hard science and hyper-specialization.

Best way to avoid dissent, critical reflection, creativity.

You taxpayers did not wonder where has all the education money gone? Why were social sciences left deriving neuro? or humanities deriving statistics and computing?

steven t johnson , Sep 9 2019 14:18 utc | 109
ben@67 somehow thinks that if I remind anyone that the goal of the Epstein re-run is to paint the Democratic Party, almost officially known as the Democrat Party by Republicans, as a monstrous pedophile conspiracy operated by Jew gangsters, I am endorsing this madness.

It is of course people who excuse all the accomplices and all the families in this, tacitly insisting Epstein had demonic powers, while falsely equating rejection of this insane vicious scheme with defense of pedophilia who are promoting antisemitic pedophile=Democrat Party allegations. There is no decent motive for this. It is as contemptible as insisting the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a real expose.

The horrible story about kidnapping an eleven year old girl off the street after the mom went into a pizzeria? This is an excellent example of the filthy hypocrites excusing all sorts of criminals so they can Jew bait pedophile Democrat Party monsters. When the mother walks out of the store, she reports a missing child.

Which police commander suppressed the report? When the girl resurfaces with this hideous tale, which police commander suppressed the investigation into the kidnapping? If the mother didn't report the rape at all, why not? Who transported the girl across state lines (the revised Mann Act is what the "new" charges are supposed to be about?) Instead of even wondering who did all these things---which Epstein didn't personally do---instead of caring about these criminals also going to jail at all, these dirtbags only want to talk about Trump's enemies being monsters and international Jewry, pretending that none of this can be investigated because Epstein's files have been disappeared. This is despicable.

b , Sep 9 2019 14:19 utc | 110

Jackrabbit , Sep 9 2019 15:34 utc | 111

steven t johnson @109:
... people ... who are promoting antisemitic pedophile=Democrat Party allegations.
The only one associating the Democratic Party with Epstein is YOU. You appear to be doing so as a device to intimidate and silence us.

But your bullshit doesn't work because:

>> Intelligence agencies don't care about political divisions. A large-scale blackmail op like Epstein's would ensnare people across the political spectrum.

>> There are still suspicions regarding Trump despite no direct evidence that he got "massages". The video of him scoping out girls with Epstein (and Ghislaine in the background) is damning enough.

>> Jews are significant donors to BOTH parties.

>> US establishment support for Israel is bi-partisan.

>> Epstein, Ghislaine, Wexner, and Dershowitz are all Jewish. They are the principals and most prominent people involved. I'd guess that billionaire Wexner is republican while we know that Dershowitz is a Democrat.

>> Witney Webb at mintpressnews.com has described a history of blackmail ops by Jews in USA that preceded Epstein (Lewis Rosenstiel, Meyer Lansky, Roy Cohn). It's not antisemitic to take note of this anymore than it would be anti-Italian to note that the mafia is run by Italian families. And this history has nothing to do with partisan politics.

Mina , Sep 9 2019 17:12 utc | 117
How funds end up in 'trending labs' that 'research' nothing else but marketing.
https://slate.com/technology/2019/09/mit-media-lab-jeffrey-epstein-joi-ito-moral-rot.html?via=gdpr-consent
and how the US impose a model of 'money has no smell'
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/08/opinion/joichi-ito.html

[Sep 09, 2019] Epstein Connection to CIA and DynCorp

Notable quotes:
"... Epstein's arrest has been a shock really. I never thought the day would come where he would actually face the rest of his life in prison. Perhaps, as others have suggested, he's being thrown under the bus to protect the un-named co-conspirators who also received blanket immunity in his sweet-heart plea deal. (Clintons? Trump? Podesta? Hastert? Dershowitz? Summers? Spacey?...) ..."
Sep 09, 2019 | steemit.com

Disgraced billionaire Jeffrey Epstein is being charged as a child molester molestation involving "dozens of minor girls" as young as 14 between 2002 and 2005, according to an unsealed indictment released by prosecutors.

This is a separate from last weeks court order for documents which may contain the names of high-level individuals. The indictment says he "sexually exploited and abused dozens of minor girls at his homes in Manhattan... and Palm Beach."

Epstein apparently used recruiters to help him create "a vast network of underage victims for him to sexually exploit in locations including New York and Palm Beach" . Receruiters are how these sex trafficking groups and sex cults like NXIVM work. Miami Herald Investigative Reporter Julie K. Brown mentioned how there are many more victims who she hopes come forward.

"They were taken advantage of by someone who knew how to prey upon them and groom them to do things he wanted them to do."

The Miami Herald previously exposed how the current U.S. labor secretary Alex Acosta violated federal law he swore to uphold when he gave Epstein the deal without clearing it with his victims.

"The Miami Herald last year published a series of articles reporting that the top federal prosecutor in southern Florida at the time, Alex Acosta, worked with Epstein's lawyers to fashion the deal. Acosta, now the U.S. labor secretary, violated federal law when he failed to clear the federal non-prosecution agreement with many of Epstein's alleged victims, a federal judge ruled in February."

The Herald apparently found 60 victims, some who were 14 and 15 years old, who were also trafficked with 25 to 30 others.

The sex trafficking network has connections to the CIA and DynCorp. A special report on Occurrences: Foreign and Domestic identified Epstein's suspected trafficking vehicle, a small plane, which had the "same tail number as a State department Bronco used under contract by DynCorp." This is the same plane that was involve din DynCorp sex trafficking of minors in the Balkans.

Most of the business DynCorp had by 2003 came from the CIA. Wired wrote of the importance of DynCorp in 2003:

DynCorp represents nothing less than the future of national security. While outfits like Raytheon make their money developing weapons systems, DynCorp offers the military an alternative to itself. In 2002, the company took in $2.3 billion doing what you probably thought was Pentagon work. DynCorp planes and pilots fly the defoliation missions that are the centerpiece of Plan Colombia.

Armed DynCorp employees constitute the core of the police force in Bosnia. DynCorp troops protect Afghan president Hamid Karzai. DynCorp manages the border posts between the US and Mexico, many of the Pentagon's weapons-testing ranges, and the entire Air Force One fleet of presidential planes and helicopters. During the Persian Gulf War, it was DynCorp employees, not soldiers, who serviced and rearmed American combat choppers, and it's DynCorp's people, not military personnel, who late last year began "forward deploying" equipment and ammunition to the Middle East in preparation for war with Iraq.

DynCorp inventories everything seized by the Justice Department's Asset Forfeiture Program, runs the Naval Air Warfare Center at Patuxent River, Maryland, and is producing the smallpox and anthrax vaccines the government may use to inoculate everyone in the United States.

It stands to reason that the CIA was involved in sex trafficking as part of their operations at the time, possibly for their own operatives or other soldiers who had these perverted predilections. The operation may have been multi-national, with who knows how many planes trafficking girls in various areas of the world for sexual exploitation by the powerful rich or military men.


References:


Thank you for your time and attention. Peace. v4vapid ( 72 ) · 2 months ago (edited) Fun Fact: my very first post on Steemit was about Epstein and his connections to America's oligarchy. Epstein is/was also a member of the Trilateral Commission, the CFR and very closely connected to Harvard law school.

The connections to Dyncorp are tangible - for anyone interested in this connection fellow steemian @rebelskum wrote a self published e-book on the subject from his investigation into the contractor.

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The Epstein case is a giant iceberg with much more below the surface, with tentacles connecting a seemingly unconnected network of child abuse rings on an international scale.

Epstein's arrest has been a shock really. I never thought the day would come where he would actually face the rest of his life in prison. Perhaps, as others have suggested, he's being thrown under the bus to protect the un-named co-conspirators who also received blanket immunity in his sweet-heart plea deal. (Clintons? Trump? Podesta? Hastert? Dershowitz? Summers? Spacey?...)

Will be following this very closely, thanks for keeping us up to date!

theouterlight ( 72 ) · 2 months ago I forgot about that story about the tail number and the airplane, otherwise would have talked about that in my last vid. Great article btw!

[Sep 09, 2019] Jeffrey Epstein His Accomplices, His Victims, His Powerful and Possibly Official Entanglements

Epstein scandal does not begin and does not ends with Epstein. It was pioneers by Meyer Lansky and OSS. It was continued by J. Edgar Hoover and
Sep 08, 2019 | jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com
Jeffrey Epstein: His Accomplices, His Victims, His Powerful and Possibly Official Entanglements
"Yet, as this report will show, all of these rings -- and more -- were connected to the same network that involved key figures linked to the Reagan White House and linked to Roy Cohn -- revealing the true scope of the sordid sexual blackmail operations and sex rings that involved the trafficking of children within the U.S. and even in Central America for their exploitation by dangerous and powerful pedophiles in the United States.

Appalling for both the villainous abuse of children itself and the chilling implications of government by blackmail, this tangled web of unsavory alliances casts a lurid light on the political history of the United States from the Prohibition Era right up to the present day and the Age of Trump, a fact made increasingly clear as more and more information comes to light in relation to the Jeffrey Epstein case."

Whitney Webb, Too Big to Fail: Government By Blackmail

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

Ephesians 6:12

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[Sep 07, 2019] Epstein-Linked MIT Media Lab And NYT Director Resigns After Expos Reveals Scramble To Conceal Ties

Sep 07, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

LetThemEatRand , 1 hour ago link

Is there really any question that Epstein was Mossad/CIA, seeking out powerful people to befriend, ensnare, and then blackmail for the good of the Deep State?

Blue Boat , 1 hour ago link

Here's an important question I haven't seen asked yet.....anywhere:

How many SICK MOTHERFUCKERS are there in America who want to SCREW CHILDREN??? It appears to be an epidemic problem. This stuff here is about elite people. But, guess what? Routinely, like monthly, at minimum, I see articles in the paper of my large Midwestern city about pedo-sickos being arrested for diddling kids or having kiddie ****.

It must be happening ALL OVER the country. Wait, and those are just the ones getting caught! Times that by 10, at least.

So, BOTTOMLINE --- what percentage of men in this country want to **** kids??? It's time for ANSWERS.

Totally_Disillusioned , 1 hour ago link

it's evil so think in terms of how many people in the world who have possibly sold their soul for fame, wealth, celebrity or just because they were hopelessly caught up in drugs and gay sex.

Percentage? Maybe 34+ males and 25+ females. And on the local news front, pay attention to missing kids and how many trafficking arrests are made. Here in TN it's epidemic and the TN Bureau Invest. has a special unit that hunts this crap down.

Dogbreath15 , 48 minutes ago link

So the Smart, Elite M.I.T Ivory League M'F'ers that know better than us and want to lead us...
Hanging out with known pedophiles and taking Pedophile's money.... I thought so!!

beemasters , 47 minutes ago link

It's entirely true: the efforts that are reflexively undertaken to cover up the greatest crimes perpetrated by the U.S. Federal Government are as complex and convoluted as they are incomprehensible.

If the American people knew what really went on regarding notorious pedovore Jeffrey Epstein and his clandestine relationship with Attorney General William Barr, they would retch with utter disgust and revulsion.

http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=127454

beemasters , 44 minutes ago link

if the DoJ did not want Epstein killed or kidnapped -- IN A HIGHLY MONITORED FEDERAL DETENTION FACILITY -- he would have been put in Level 5 lockdown which would have made him the most protected prisoner in U.S. history (After all, he was the most valuable inmate in history). Nevertheless, his melodramatic suiciding op was loaded with much more meaning as this exposé explains: HOLY CHUTZPAH! Epstein Suicide Psyop Sends Serious Message to Humanity

Quite obviously, this entire affair was engineered at the highest levels of justice and law enforcement, which ensured Epstein would escape from his fate safely and quickly, which he did.

[Sep 06, 2019] 9-11 and Jeffrey Epstein Media Malfeasance on Steroids by Kevin Barrett

It is not vey clear for whom Epstein used to work. Mossad connection is just one hypothesis. What sovereign state would allow compromising politician by a foreign intelligence service. This just does not compute.
But the whole tone of discussion below clearly point to the crisis of legitimacy of neoliberal elite. And Russiagate had shown that the elite cares about it and tried to patch the cracks.
Sep 06, 2019 | www.unz.com

As Eric Rasmusen writes: "Everybody, it seems, in New York society knew by 2000 that Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell were corrupting teenage girls, but the press wouldn't cover it." Likewise, everybody in New York society has long known that Larry Silverstein, who bought the asbestos-riddled white elephant World Trade Center in July 2001 and immediately doubled the insurance, is a mobbed-up friend of Netanyahu and a confessed participant in the controlled demolition of Building 7 , from which he earned over 700 million insurance dollars on the pretext that al-Qaeda had somehow brought it down. But the press won't cover that either.

The New York Times , America's newspaper of record, has the investigative talent and resources to expose major corruption in New York. Why did the Times spend almost two decades ignoring the all-too-obvious antics of Epstein and Silverstein? Why is it letting the absurd tale of Epstein's alleged suicide stand? Why hasn't it used the work of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth -- including the brand-new University of Alaska study on the controlled demolition of WTC-7 -- to expose the biggest scandal of the 21 st century, if not all of American history?

The only conceivable answer is that The New York Times is somehow complicit in these monstrous crimes. It must be protecting its friends in high places. So who are those friends, and where are those high places?

One thing Epstein and Silverstein have in common, besides names ending in "-stein," is alleged involvement in the illicit sex industry. Epstein's antics, or at least some of them, are by now well-known. Not so for Silverstein, who apparently began his rags-to-9/11-riches story as a pimp supplying prostitutes and nude dancers to the shadier venues of NYC, alongside other illicit activities including "the heroin trade, money laundering and New York Police corruption." All of this was exposed in a mid-1990s lawsuit. But good luck finding any investigative reports in The New York Times .

Another Epstein-Silverstein connection is their relationships to major American Jewish organizations. Even while he was allegedly pimping girls and running heroin, Larry Silverstein served as president for United Jewish Appeal of New York. As for Epstein, he was the boy toy and protégé of Les Wexner, co-founder of the Mega Group of Jewish billionaires associated with the World Jewish Congress, the Anti-Defamation League, and other pro-Israel groups. Indeed, there is no evidence that "self-made billionaire" Epstein ever earned significant amounts of money; his only investment "client" was Les Wexner. Epstein, a professional sexual blackmailer, used his supposed billionaire status as a cover story. In fact, he was just an employee working for Wexner and associated criminal/intelligence networks.

Which brings us to the third and most important Epstein-Silverstein similarity: They were both close to the government of Israel. Jeffrey Epstein's handler was Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of Mossad super-spy Robert Maxwell; among his friends was Ehud Barak, who is currently challenging Netanyahu for leadership of Israel. Larry Silverstein, too, has friends in high Israeli places. According to Haaretz , Silverstein has "close ties with Netanyahu" (speaking to him on the phone every weekend) as well as with Ehud Barak, "whom Silverstein in the past offered a job as his representative in Israel" and who called Silverstein immediately after 9/11.

We may reasonably surmise that both Jeffrey Epstein and Larry Silverstein have been carrying on very important work on behalf of the state of Israel. And we may also surmise that this is the reason The New York Times has been covering up the scandals associated with both Israeli agents for almost two decades. The Times , though it pretends to be America's newspaper of record, has always been Jewish-owned-and-operated. Its coverage has always been grotesquely distorted in favor of Israel . It has no interest in exposing the way Israel controls the United States by blackmailing its leaders (Epstein) and staging a fake "Arab-Muslim attack on America" (Silverstein). The awful truth is that The New York Times is part of the same Jewish-Zionist " we control America " network as Jeffrey Epstein and Larry Silverstein.

Epstein "Suicide" Illustrates Zionist Control of USA -- and the Decadence and Depravity of Western Secularism

Since The New York Times and other mainstream media won't go there, let's reflect on the facts and lessons of the Jeffrey Epstein suicide scandal -- a national disgrace that ought to shock Americans into rethinking their worldviews in general, and their views on the official myth of 9/11 in particular.

On Saturday, August 10, 2019, convicted child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein was allegedly found dead in his cell at Metropolitan Correctional Center (MCC) in New York City, one of America's most corrupt prisons. The authorities claim Epstein hanged himself. But nobody, not even the presstitutes of America's corporate propaganda media, convincingly pretends to believe the official story.

Jeffrey Epstein was a pedophile pimp to presidents and potentates. His job was recruiting young girls for sex, then offering them to powerful men -- in settings outfitted with hidden video cameras. When police raided his New York townhouse on July 6-7 2019 they found locked safes full of pornographic pictures of underage girls, along with piles of compact discs labeled "young (name of girl) + (name of VIP)." Epstein had been openly and brazenly carrying on such activities for more than two decades, as reported throughout most of that period by alternative media outlets including my own Truth Jihad Radio and False Flag Weekly News . (Even before the 2016 elections, my audience knew that both Bill Clinton and Donald Trump were blackmailed clients of Jeffrey Epstein, that Clinton was a frequent flyer on Epstein's "Lolita Express" private jet, and that Trump had been credibly accused in a lawsuit of joining Epstein in the brutal rape of a 13-year-old, to whom Trump then allegedly issued death threats.) It was only in the summer of 2019 that mainstream media and New York City prosecutors started talking about what used to be consigned to the world of "conspiracy theories."

So who was Epstein working for? His primary employer was undoubtedly the Israeli Mossad and its worldwide Zionist crime network. Epstein's handler was Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of Mossad super-spy Robert Maxwell. According to sworn depositions, Ghislaine Maxwell recruited underage girls for Epstein and oversaw his sex trafficking operations. As the New Yorker reported August 16: "In court papers that were unsealed on August 9th, it was alleged that Maxwell had been Epstein's central accomplice, first as his girlfriend, and, later, as his trusted friend and procuress, grooming a steady stream of girls, some as young as fourteen, coercing them to have sex with Epstein at his various residences around the world, and occasionally participating in the sexual abuse herself." Alongside Maxwell, Epstein's other Mossad handler was Les Wexner, co-founder of the notorious Mega Group of billionaire Israeli spies , who appears to have originally recruited the penniless Epstein and handed him a phony fortune so Epstein could pose as a billionaire playboy.

Even after Epstein's shady "suicide" mega-Mossadnik Maxwell continued to flaunt her impunity from American justice. She no doubt conspired to publicize the August 15 New York Post photograph of herself smiling and looking "chillingly serene" at In-And-Out-Burger in Los Angeles, reading The Book of Honor: The Secret Lives and Deaths of C.I.A. Operatives . That nauseating photo inspired the New Yorker to accuse her of having "gall" -- a euphemism for the Yiddish chutzpah , a quality that flourishes in the overlapping Zionist and Kosher Nostra communities.

Maxwell and The New York Post , both Kosher Nostra/Mossad assets, were obviously sending a message to the CIA: Don't mess with us or we will expose your complicity in these scandalous crimes. That is the Mossad's standard operating procedure: Infiltrate and compromise Western intelligence services in order to prevent them from interfering with the Zionists' over-the-top atrocities. According to French historian Laurent Guyénot's hypothesis, the CIA's false flag fake assassination attempt on President John F. Kennedy, designed to be blamed on Cuba, was transformed by Mossad into a real assassination -- and the CIA couldn't expose it due to its own complicity. (The motive: Stop JFK from ending Israel's nuclear program.) The same scenario, Guyénot argues, explains the anomalies of the Mohamed Merah affair , the Charlie Hebdo killings, and the 9/11 false flag operation. It would not be surprising if Zionist-infiltrated elements of the CIA were made complicit in Jeffrey Epstein's sexual blackmail activities, in order to protect Israel in the event Epstein had to be "burned" (which is apparently what has finally occurred).

So what really happened to Epstein? Perhaps the most likely scenario is that the Kosher Nostra, which owns New York in general and the mobbed-up MCC prison in particular, allowed the Mossad to exfiltrate Epstein to Occupied Palestine, where he will be given a facelift, a pension, a luxury suite overlooking the Mediterranean, and a steady stream of young sex slaves (Israel is the world's capital of human trafficking, an honor it claimed from the Kosher Nostra enclaves of Odessa after World War II). Once the media heat wave blows over, Epstein will undoubtedly enjoy visits from his former Mossad handler Ghislaine Maxwell, his good friend Ehud Barak, and various other Zionist VIPs. He may even offer fresh sex slaves to visiting American congressmen.

This is not just a paranoid fantasy scenario. According to Eric Rasmusen : "The Justice Dept. had better not have let Epstein's body be cremated. And they'd better give us convincing evidence that it's his body. If I had $100 million to get out of jail with, acquiring a corpse and bribing a few people to switch fingerprints and DNA wouldn't be hard. I find it worrying that the government has not released proof that Epstein is dead or a copy of the autopsy."

But didn't the alleged autopsy reportedly find broken neck bones that are more commonly associated with strangulation murders than suicides? That controversy may have been scripted to distract the public from an insider report on 4chan , first published before the news of Epstein's "suicide" broke, that Epstein had been "switched out" of MCC. If so, the body with the broken neck bones wasn't Epstein's.

The Epstein affair (like 9/11) illustrates two critically important truths about Western secularism: there is no truth, and there are no limits. A society that no longer believes in God no longer believes in truth, since God is al-haqq, THE truth, without Whom the whole notion of truth has no metaphysical basis. The postmodern philosophers understand this perfectly well. They taught a whole generation of Western humanities scholars that truth is merely a function of power: people accept something as "true" to the extent that they are forced by power to accept it. So when the most powerful people in the world insist that three enormous steel-frame skyscrapers were blown to smithereens by relatively modest office fires on 9/11, that absurd assertion becomes the official "truth" as constructed by such Western institutions as governments, courts, media, and academia. Likewise, the assertion that Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide under circumstances that render that assertion absurd will probably become the official "truth" as recorded and promulgated by the West's ruling institutions, even though nobody will ever really believe it.

Epstein's career as a shameless, openly-operating Mossad sexual blackmailer -- like the in-your-face 9/11 coup -- also illustrates another core truth of Western secularism: If there is no God, there are no limits (in this case, to human depravity and what it can get away with). Or as Dostoevsky famously put it: "If God does not exist, everything is permitted." Since God alone can establish metaphysically-grounded limits between what is permitted and what is forbidden, a world without God will feature no such limits; in such a world Aleister Crowley's satanic motto "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law" becomes the one and only commandment. In today's Godless West, why should men not "do what they wilt" and indulge their libidos by raping young girls if they can get away with it? After all, all the other sexual taboos are being broken, one by one. Fornication, adultery, homosexuality, sadomasochism, gender-bending all of these have been transformed during my lifetime from crimes and vices to "human rights" enjoyed by the most liberal and fashionable right-thinking Western secularists. Even bestiality and necrophilia are poised to become normalized "sexual identities" whose practitioners will soon be proudly marching in "bestiality pride" and "necrophilia pride" parades. So why not normalize pedophilia and other forms of rape perpetrated by the strong against the weak? And why not add torture and murder in service to sexual gratification? After all, the secret bible of the sexual identity movement is the collected works of the Marquis de Sade, the satanic prophet of sexual liberation, with whom the liberal progressivist secular West is finally catching up. It will not be surprising if, just a few years after the Jeffrey Epstein "suicide" is consigned to the memory hole, we will be witnessing LGBTQBNPR parades, with the BNPR standing for bestiality, necrophilia, pedophilia, and rape. (It would have been LGBTQBNPRG, with the final G standing for Gropers like President Trump, except that the G was already taken by the gays.) The P's, pioneers of pedophile pride parades, will undoubtedly celebrate Jeffrey Epstein as an ahead-of-his-time misunderstood hero who was unjustly persecuted on the basis of his unusual sexual orientation.

It is getting harder and harder to satirize the decadence and depravity of the secular West, which insists on parodying itself with ever-increasing outlandishness. When the book on this once-mighty civilization is written, and the ink is dry, readers will be astounded by the limitless lies of the drunk-on-chutzpah psychopaths who ran it into the ground.


NoseytheDuke , says: September 5, 2019 at 4:30 am GMT

Correct me if I am wrong but I thought Lucky Larry only leased the WTC buildings rather than actually purchased them. I think I have read that his investment was in the region of 150 mill for which he has recouped a whopping 4 bill.
Wizard of Oz , says: September 5, 2019 at 4:42 am GMT
Would you please answer a preliminary question before I put finishing this on my busy agenda? You stake a fair bit of your credit on what you say about Larry Silverstein and insurance. My present understanding is that the insurance cover for WTC 1 and 2 was increased as a routine part of the financing deal he had made for a purchase which was only months old. Not true? Not the full story? Convince us.

As to WTC 7 my understanding is that he had owned the building for some years and had not recently increased the insurance. Not true? And when did any clause get into his WTC7 insurance contract which might have had some effect on inflating the payout?

Fozzy Bear , says: September 5, 2019 at 4:55 am GMT
“Trump had been credibly accused in a lawsuit of joining Epstein in the brutal rape of a 13-year-old, to whom Trump then allegedly issued death threats.)”
The “Katie Johnson” case collapsed in 2016 when it was revealed that “she” was in fact a middle-aged man, a stringer for the Jerry Springer show. Just another Gloria Allred fraud.
nsa , says: September 5, 2019 at 5:26 am GMT
“a society that no longer believes in god no longer believes in the truth, since god is the truth….blah blah blah”
This is thin gruel indeed…..just silly platitudes from a muzzie convert. There are at least 100 billion galaxies in the universe with each galaxy containing as many as 100 billion stars. And there is no telling how many universes there are. Does anyone really believe Barrett’s preferred deity takes a time out from running this vast empire to service Barrett’s yearning for “truth”? Just goes to prove that humans will believe almost any idea as long as it’s sufficiently idiotic.
utu , says: September 5, 2019 at 5:47 am GMT
The release of Prof. J. Leroy Hulsey report on the finite element analysis of the WTC7 collapse should be a big news.

http://ine.uaf.edu/wtc7

http://ine.uaf.edu/media/222439/uaf_wtc7_draft_report_09-03-2019.pdf

Conclusion form the EXECUTIVE SUMMARY:

“The principal conclusion of our study is that fire did not cause the collapse of WTC 7 on 9/11, contrary to the conclusions of NIST and private engineering firms that studied the collapse.”

“It is our conclusion based upon these findings that the collapse of WTC 7 was a global failure involving the near-simultaneous failure of all columns in the building and not a progressive collapse involving the sequential failure of columns throughout the building.”

WorkingClass , says: September 5, 2019 at 5:47 am GMT
Trump is Israel’s best friend. Right? So why is the Jew York Times trying to destroy him? I don’t get it.
Mark James , says: September 5, 2019 at 5:52 am GMT
Speaking of the truth v. parody I’d really rather work on the cause of Epstein’s death –yes I think he’s dead– suicide or strangulation ?
There are some things the Justice Dept. could do if they wanted to. Why they apparently didn’t want to expose the corpse in greater detail, let media view the cell, have correspondent(s) interview the ex- cellmate of Epstein, et.al just leads to suspicions. This is something they should have to answer for . That includes AG Barr. Trump could make it happen–like every thing else– if Barr says no. The President won’t.

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utu , says: September 5, 2019 at 5:58 am GMT
Dostoyevsky with his “If God does not exist, everything is permitted.” overlooked the Jewish God who permits much more when it comes to Jewish gentile relations. The Jewish God is not limited by the Kant’s First Moral Imperative. The Jewish God’s moral laws are not universal. They are context dependent according to the Leninist Who, whom rule.
utu , says: September 5, 2019 at 6:00 am GMT

Not so for Silverstein, who apparently began his rags-to-9/11-riches story as a pimp supplying prostitutes and nude dancers to the shadier venues of NYC, alongside other illicit activities including “the heroin trade, money laundering and New York Police corruption.”

I would like to see more about the beginnings of Silverstein’s career.

BlackDragon , says: September 5, 2019 at 6:19 am GMT
Good work Kevin, Irrelevant exactly what Silverstein did in way of insurance.The FACT is that WTC7 DID NOT FALL due to fires. Neither did WTC1 or 2. The 6 million dollar question is ‘WHO put the ‘bang’ in the building?’ to bring them down, by what ever means. Im in favour of nukes for 1 and 2.
Answer that! Why isnt Silverstein arrested? I think Kevin provided the answer in the article..
Antares , says: September 5, 2019 at 6:27 am GMT
I liked the article but skipped the part about some god. Nothing matches intellectual integrity.

“It is getting harder and harder to satirize the decadence and depravity of the secular West”

This is the same line of reasoning as Vltchek’s but then from a(nother) religious point of view.

The Duke of Dork , says: September 5, 2019 at 6:28 am GMT
I just stumbled onto your article from a link on reddit, r/epstein. You make some convincing arguments. I was thrilled that you brought 9/11 into this – because the Epstein “suicide” and how it is being covered reminds me so much of how I felt after 9/11 and the run-up to the war. -But you lost me at the end with the stuff about Godless secularism. I’ve read the bible and it is not the answer to what’s wrong with the world.
Sean , says: September 5, 2019 at 6:31 am GMT

Why did the Times spend almost two decades ignoring the all-too-obvious antics of Epstein and Silverstein? Why is it letting the absurd tale of Epstein’s alleged suicide stand?

One thing cannot be denied : Epstein was arrested, denied bail and jailed awaiting trail on a Federal indictment for much the same offence he had pleaded guilty to a decade ago, which did not involve even a single homicide yet made him universally reviled and in as much trouble with the legal system as a man could be (almost certain never to get out again). Epstein was in far more trouble that anyone of his financial resources has ever been, but then that was for paying for sex acts with young teen girls.

What an awesomely impressive testament to the impunity enjoyed by the Jewish elite Epstein is. It is no wonder that Larry Silverstein was insouciant about the risks of a Jewish lightning fraud controlled demolition killing thousands of people in a building he had just bought and increased the insurance coverage of. After all, it wasn’t anything serious like paying for getting hundreds of handjobs from underage girls. And it is not like someone like the Pizzagate nut that fired his AR15 into underground child molestation complex beneath the Dems restaurant/pedophile centre would take all those WTC deaths seriously enough to shoot at him just because of inevitable internet accusations of mass murder. Mr Barrett, why don’t you step up and do it, thereby proving you believe the things you say .

Macon Richardson , says: September 5, 2019 at 7:11 am GMT
@NoseytheDuke Yes, he leased the World Trade Center buildings one and two from the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. He built World Trade Center building seven, having acquired a ground lease from Port Authority.

I can’t imagine why you ask this question in a public venue. I found the answer in less than one minute on the internet.

I assume the insurance policies were for the present value of his net profits for the duration of the leases.

Lastoknow , says: September 5, 2019 at 7:26 am GMT
I recall reading about this guy prior to the event. I believe it was USATODAY . He and a silent partner had bought the complex with a down of 63million and had it insured for 7billion. I thought it odd that the port authority would let go of the property at the time.
As the building deficiencies became known afterwards,my thoughts were along the line of insurance fraud.
I came across a copy of the rand Corp “state of the world 2000” which accurately describes the scenario and resulting culture of terror as “one possible future “…. funny how it’s taken all these years to discover this website.
Sean , says: September 5, 2019 at 9:08 am GMT

Indeed, there is no evidence that “self-made billionaire” Epstein ever earned significant amounts of money.

Good thing that Wexner is Jewish so we can discount the possibility that he was telling the truth the other month when he said that Epstein stole vast amounts of Wexner money

his only investment “client” was Les Wexner

Clever of Wexner to give Epstein 80 million dollars to deliberately lose.
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/jeffrey-epstein-lost-usd80-million-in-hedge-fund-bet-gone-bad.html

Alongside Maxwell, Epstein’s other Mossad handler was Les Wexner, co-founder of the notorious Mega Group of billionaire Israeli spies

Wexner and his fellow Mossad spy Maxwell leaving Virginia Roberts alive to repeatedly sue them, and use the world”s media to accuse them of sexually abusing, trafficking, pimping her out to VIPs, and fiming the trysts was a brilliant way to keep everything a secret.

Mossad handler Ghislaine Maxwell, his good friend Ehud Barak, and various other Zionist VIPs.

Yes, they are the greatest covert operatives ever.

Just another serf , says: September 5, 2019 at 9:45 am GMT
Epstein’s crimes are simple breaches of etiquette when compared to Silverstein. I believe the term “Silverstein valleys” has been used to describe the melted granite discovered beneath the former towers, Silverstein grins widely in interviews, while so many suffered horribly.

One might even consider the 9/11 deaths to be something of a “holocaust”. Certainly one of the most evil human beings to have walked the Earth.

Whitewolf , says: September 5, 2019 at 10:11 am GMT
@Wizard of Oz Silverstein said he gave the okay for wtc 7 to be “pulled”. The building was on fire at the time. Either someone wired it to be pulled while it was on fire and already damaged or it was wired for demolition beforehand. The second scenario seems a lot more likely. In that case all the insurance contract details are largely irrelevant to the bigger picture.
Twodees Partain , says: September 5, 2019 at 10:54 am GMT
The idea that the CIA is somehow independent of Mossad and that Mossad would have to warn the CIA off of the Epstein matter is implausible to me. Guyenot’s hypothesis tends to give cover to the CIA in the assassination of JFK by claiming that the CIA plot was set in motion as some sort of attempt to control JFK and that it was hijacked into an actual assassination by Mossad. That just isn’t credible.

It’s much more accurate to observe that the CIA was erected by the same zionists who oversaw the creation of Israel and later the forming of Mossad, and that the two agencies have been joined at the hip ever since.

anon [383] • Disclaimer , says: September 5, 2019 at 11:33 am GMT
@WorkingClass Bad cop good cop. NYT is trying to destroy him . Israel says to him :” send this , do this ,allow us to do this , increase this by this amount , and we will make sure that in final analysis you don’t get hurt ”
Trump possibly knows that the only people who could hurt him is the Jewish people of power .

Has NYT ever criticized Trump for relocating embassy , recognizing Golan, for allowing Israel use Anerican resources to hit Syria or Gaza , for allowing Israel drag US into more military involvement. for allowing Israel wage war against Gaza ,? Has NYT ever explored the dynamics behind abrogation of JCPOA and application of more sanctions?

NYT has focused on Russia gate knowing in advance that it has no merit and no public traction, Is it hurting Trump or itself ?

Kevin Barrett , says: • Website September 5, 2019 at 12:25 pm GMT
@NoseytheDuke It was a 100 year lease, which is better described by the word purchase .
anon [383] • Disclaimer , says: September 5, 2019 at 12:28 pm GMT
People with normal IQ would believe that Epstein killed himself, if the following took place –

Media day and night asking questions about him from 360 degree of inquiries

1 why the surveillance video were not functioning despite the serious nature of the charges against a man who could rat out a lot in court against powerful people
2 why the coroner initially thought that Epstein was murdered
3 how many guards and how many fell asleep?
4 who and why allowed the spin story around Epstein brilliance and high IQ build up over the years ?
5 how does Epstein come to get linked to non -Jews people who have absolute loyalty to Israel
6 how did Epstein get involved with Jewish leaders ?
7 How did Epstein continue to enjoy seat on Harvard and enjoy social celebrity status after plea deal ?
8 Why did Wexner allow this man so much control over his asset ?
9 Media felt if terrorism were unique Muslim thing , why media is not alluding to the fact that pedophilia is a unique Jewish thing ?
10 why the angle of Israel being sex slavery capital and Epstein being sex slave pimp not being connected ?
11 how death in prison in foreign unfriendly countries often become causus celebre by US media , politicians , NGO and US treasury – why not this death ?

Kevin Barrett , says: • Website September 5, 2019 at 12:37 pm GMT
@Fozzy Bear Not true. A respectable civil rights attorney, Lisa Bloom, handled Katie Johnson’s case. Shortly before the scheduled press conference at which Johnson was to appear publicly, she received multiple death threats: “Bloom said that her firm’s website was hacked, that Anonymous had claimed responsibility, and that death threats and a bomb threat came in afterwards.” https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation Johnson folded because she was terrified (and perhaps paid off).
DaveE , says: September 5, 2019 at 12:51 pm GMT
@Twodees Partain In “Body of Secrets” by James Bamford, a newspaper article from the Truman era is referenced where the OSS, predecessor of the CIA, is described as “a converted vault in Washington used as an office space for 5 or 6 Jews working to protect our national secrets” (or similar wording).

Going from memory and gave away my copy of the book….. sorry for the vague reference, but you can look it up.

DanFromCT , says: September 5, 2019 at 1:24 pm GMT
@nsa An atheist like “nsa” must concede Dosteovsky’s point from his novel The Possessed that even for the atheist the concept of God represents the collective consciousness, highest principles, and ontological aspirations of believers. Given this sense, “nsa’s” real animus is more than likely an atavistic hatred of Christians and Muslims, probably for just being alive in his paranoid mind. What imbecility when this clown cites a multiverse of universes that has no proof and less plausibility for its existence than the tooth fairy. I’d also bet “nsa” speaks algebra, too, like the recently deceased mathematical genius, Jeffrey Epstein.

What’s Mr. Wexner’s, Mega’s, and Mossad/CIA’s involvement? That’s the real question trolls like “nsa” and the Dems and Republicans alike are crapping in their pants we’ll find out. When evidence starts to cascade out of their ability to spin or suppress it, things will get interesting. Meanwhile, Fox News is still doing its best from what I can tell to run cover for 911, now extended to the suspiciously related perps in the Epstein affair.

Patrikios Stetsonis , says: September 5, 2019 at 1:24 pm GMT
“The Epstein affair (like 9/11) illustrates two critically important truths about Western secularism: there is no truth, and there are no limits. A society that no longer believes in God no longer believes in truth…..”

You said it ALL Kevin.

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Mulegino1 , says: September 5, 2019 at 1:37 pm GMT

“While the Zionists try to make the rest of the World believe that the national consciousness of the Jew finds its satisfaction in the creation of a Palestinian state, the Jews again slyly dupe the dumb Goyim. It doesn’t even enter their heads to build up a Jewish state in Palestine for the purpose of living there; all they want is a central organisation for their international world swindler, endowed with its own sovereign rights and removed from the intervention of other states: a haven for convicted scoundrels and a university for budding crooks.
It is a sign of their rising confidence and sense of security that at a time when one section is still playing the German, French-man, or Englishman, the other with open effrontery comes out as the Jewish race.”

More prophetic words were ever spoken or written by any of the statesmen of the Twentieth Century than these, even though they themselves were insufficient to describe the horrors that the Zionist state would bring upon the world if left unchecked- and its power and influence have been unchecked since the 1960’s. The last time that the world stood up to Zionist power in an appreciable way was during the Suez Crisis.

renfro , says: September 5, 2019 at 1:41 pm GMT
@Wizard of Oz

Not the full story? Convince us.

Connect the dots….

DOT.. Port loses claim for asbestos removal | Business Insurance
https://www.businessinsurance.com › article › ISSUE01 › port-loses-claim-…
May 13, 2001 – The suit sought claim of the Port Authority’s huge cost of removing asbestos from hundreds of properties ranging from the enormous World Trade Center complex

DOT…Silverstein knew when he leased WTC 7 that he would have to pay out of pocket for asbestos abatement removal in WTC 7, multiple millions, which is why the Port Authority leased it so cheaply.

DOT…In May, 2000, a year before, signing the lease, he already had the design drawn for a new WTC building. Silverstein had no plans to remove the asbestos as he already had plans to replace it.

DOT… Larry Silverstein signs the lease just six weeks before the WTC’s twin towers were brought to the ground by terrorists in the September 11, 2001, attacks.

DOT….After leasing the complex, Silverstein negotiated with 24 insurance companies for a maximum coverage of $3.55 billion per catastrophic occurrence. However, the agreements had not been finalized before 9/11.

DOT…..Silverstein tries to sue insurers for double the payout claiming 2 catastrophic occurrences because of 2 planes involved.

DOT….Silver loses that lawsuit but sues the air lines and settles for almost another billion, $ 750,000,000.

Just another Jew insurance fire folks. He planned on tearing down WTC 7 to begin with. The only missing DOT is who he hired to set the demolition explosives in WTC 7. Were they imported from our ME ally?

[Sep 06, 2019] A Deeper Dive Into The Epstein-Dubin Wall Street Connection

Sep 06, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Jeffrey Epstein may be dead, but there are still many stones to turn over while investigators sift through his network of high-profile friends, some of whom may be guilty of sex crimes themselves.

The wealthy pedophile, transhumanist, and financier's circle of friends included Bill Clinton, Ehud Barack, Prince Andrew, and Victoria's Secret boss Les Wexner.

It also included billionaire hedge fund manager Glenn Dubin and his wife, Dr. Eva Andersson-Dubin - a former Miss Sweden who dated Epstein for three years before she and Dubin married in 1994.

The Dubins and Epstein were close, and remained close after his 2008 conviction for pedophilia - inviting him to their Palm Beach home for Thanksgiving the following year. Eva even wrote an email to Epstein's probation officer insisting that she was "100% comfortable" with the pedophile and registered sex-offender being around her minor children.

According to Vanity Fair ' s William Cohan, several sources said that Epstein was the godfather to the Dubins' three children - a claim which the family disputed ("The Dubins are Jewish and Jewish people do not typically do godparents," said a spokesman).

Epstein, Dubin and Wall Street

In 2004, Epstein reportedly received a $15 million fee after JPMorgan Chase bought control of Dubin's hedge fund, Highbridge Capital. Epstein had introduced Dubin to then-JPM Exec Jes Staley, who is now CEO of Barclays. According to Bloomberg , Staley "visited Epstein on the private island, accompanied by his wife Debora." He also visited Epstein at his Palm Beach office while the Epstein was on prison work-release.

Dubin, meanwhile, also directed some of Epstein's money to at least two hedge fund mangers; Dan Zwirn and Joseph Kusnan - both former Highbridge employees who left to start their own firms.

"Glenn Dubin introduced me to Epstein as a new manager that he was familiar with and thought highly of," Kusnan told Vanity Fair - insisting that he and Epstein only met once, and never communicated again . Notably, Kusnan delivered "a good rate of return on his modest investment."

The relationship between Epstein and Dubin also ventured into more controversial realms, if one believes the depositions recently unsealed in an old court case between one of Epstein's alleged victims, Virginia Giuffre, and Epstein's longtime companion and alleged madam, Ghislaine Maxwell. According to Giuffre's May 2016 deposition, Dubin was the "first" powerful person that Maxwell sent her to have sex with "after my training." She also said that she was instructed by Maxwell to have sex with, among others, Alan Dershowitz, the Harvard Law professor; George Mitchell, the former U.S. senator; Bill Richardson, the former New Mexico governor; and Jean-Luc Brunel, a French model scout. "My whole life revolved around just pleasing these men and keeping Ghislaine and Jeffrey happy," Giuffre said in her deposition. "[Maxwell and Epstein's] whole entire lives revolved around sex. They call massages sex. They call modeling sex." She said Maxwell told her to give Dubin "a massage." (The Dubins categorically deny Giuffre's allegations. Their spokesperson also provided evidence they say disproves Giuffre's account. Dershowitz, Mitchell, Richardson, and Brunel have also denied her allegations.) - Vanity Fair

Did the Dubins bring in a 15-year-old girl?

Former Dubin chef and assistant Rinaldo Rizzo claimed in a recently unsealed June 2016 deposition that when he and his wife Debra worked for the Dubins, Andersson-Dubin brought home a 15-year-old Swedish girl who had been with Epstein and Maxwell during a visit to the Dubins' home.

The girl was "distraught," "upset," and "she was shaking" said Rizzo, who added that the girl seemed "on the verge of crying."

According to the report, "[T]he girl told him and his wife that she worked for Epstein as his "executive personal assistant," and when Rizzo expressed shock that such a young girl could have that job, "she just breaks down hysterically." Rizzo stated that the girl told him she was involved in some forced sexual activity at Epstein's Caribbean island and was told by Maxwell and Epstein not to discuss it. "

But about a month later, according to Rizzo, the Dubins, along with the girl and the Rizzos, were on Dubin's private jet back to Sweden and the girl was returned home . "We flew to Sweden," Rizzo said in his deposition, "we stopped at an airport we didn't usually stop at and she got off the plane." The Rizzos left the Dubins' employ in October 2005, following those events, he said in his deposition. " My wife and I had discussed these incidents, and this last one was just, we couldn't deal with it, " he said. - Vanity Fair

The Dubins have denied everything - stating through a spokesman who shared flight records "There was never a 15-year-old Swedish nanny in the Dubins' home and flight records for trips to Sweden on the Dubins' plane do not include any minors other than family members." The Dubins' longtime live-in nanny also attested "with certainty" that they had never employed an underage nanny.

That said, the Dubins did confirm having traveled with Epstein on his private jet - occasionally flying between Palm Beach and New York, where they all had homes. Maxwell, meanwhile, flew on Dubin's plane twice along with his children; once in 2004 and again in 2010.

Pilot Jim Dowd who flew for both Epstein and the Dubins said that both men were "friends" who liked "vacationing together."

Meanwhile, a Russian model who worked for French modeling exec and accused rapist Jean-Luc Brunel was reportedly "friendly" with Andersson-Dubin. The model, Lana Pozhidaeva, recently made headlines for having received a $55,000 donation from Epstein for her New York-based nonprofit.

Dubins and Wexner

Last but not least, Vanity Fair 's Cohan notes that the Dubins were close enough to Victoria's Secret boss (and former Epstein pal) Leslie Wexner, the billionaire founder and CEO of L Brands. Wexner - Epstein's only known financial client - allowed the Dubins and their children to use their 316-foot, $100 million yacht, Limitless, for a Mediterranean vacation .

"Wexner's wife, Abigail, "graciously invited the Dubins to use their boat for four days while Eva Dubin was recovering from breast cancer surgery," Dubin's spokesperson explained," according to the report - which adds that it was "quite unusual for Wexner to let anyone use Limitless when he was not on board."

Interestingly - all parties have denied all wrongdoing, and many claim to have had no knowledge of Epstein's proclivities despite hanging out with him during and following his conviction for pedophilia . What's wrong with these people?


Mr. Pain , 11 minutes ago link

"Interestingly - all parties have denied all wrongdoing, and many claim to have had no knowledge of Epstein's proclivities despite hanging out with him during and following his conviction for pedophilia . What's wrong with these people"

It is the same as to why parents let their kids hang around with Micheal Jackson. They get something from the relationship which seems to be much more important than their kids mental and emotional wellbeing.

LetThemEatRand , 18 minutes ago link

I suppose they need to continue trotting out stories like this to make it appear that someone is actually investigating something, before the whole thing winds up in the memory hole.

yaright , 19 minutes ago link

Key indicator here people, if nothing happens then justice is for the "sheep" only.

Bill of Rights , 16 minutes ago link

Its not about Justice, its about how deep your wallet is...Everyone has a price.

wokegoy , 23 minutes ago link

Lots of (((connections)))

Snippy21 , 16 minutes ago link

(((cohencidence)))

[Sep 06, 2019] A possible role of Sigal Mandelker in obstructing justice in the first Epstein investigation

See also Gilsinan, Kathy (July 20, 2019). "The Woman at the Center of Trump's Iran Policy". The Atlantic.
Sep 06, 2019 | www.unz.com

annamaria , says: September 5, 2019 at 6:16 pm GMT

"It must be protecting its friends in high places." -- Occam razor in action.

From here, the question is, who had guided the Israel-firster Sigal Mandelker in 2008 to protect Epstein from any real punishment for his gross crimes? And who has awarded Sigal Mandelker with the job of Under Secretary of Treasury as a reward for protecting Epstein? https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-epstein-bail-hearing-20190715-x2oztbwjkbcdrho7ae73vhmzvy-story.html

"From her influential post at the Treasury Department, Sigal Mandelker has vowed to defend "our great partner, Israel" by sanctioning Iran: https://thegrayzone.com/2019/09/03/pro-israel-sigal-mandelker-fbi-americans-iran/

Who is Sigal Mandelker? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigal_Mandelker

A child of Holocaust survivors...he was born in Tel Aviv, Israel.

She worked in the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York as Assistant U.S. Attorney before becoming Counsel to the Deputy Attorney General, where she worked on national security and counterterrorism. She was Counselor to the Secretary of Homeland Security before she worked in the Criminal Division of the Department of Justice as Deputy Assistant Attorney General.

What are Sigal Mandelker' connections to this illustrious group?

Even while he was allegedly pimping girls and running heroin, Larry Silverstein served as president for United Jewish Appeal of New York.

As for Epstein, he was the boy toy and protégé of Les Wexner, co-founder of the Mega Group of Jewish billionaires associated with the World Jewish Congress, the Anti-Defamation League, and other pro-Israel groups.

Reads like the best of the best among Israel-firsters: Pimps, drug-dealers, thugs from the ADL, major mafioso-philanthropists for Israel, WJC activists with a special fondness for the illegal settlers' terrorism against native Palestinians, and the most active promoters of the Wars for Eretz Israel, including a war-in-making against Iran.

[Sep 06, 2019] US State Dept Program Offers $15 Million to Iran Revolutionary Guards

While people do not agree of detail the main theme is common: government stories explaining both 9/11 and Epstein death are not credible. And that government tried to create an "artificial reality" to hide real events and real culprits.
Absence of credible information create fertile ground for creation of myths and rumors, sometimes absurd. But that'a well known sociaological phenomenon studies by late Tamotsu Shibutani in the context of WWII rumors ( Improvised News: A Sociological Study of Rumor (1966)).
Now we can interpret famous quote of William Casey "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false as an admission of the fact that the government can create artificial reality" much like in film Matrix and due to thick smoke of propaganda people are simply unable to discern the truth.
Sep 06, 2019 | www.unz.com

renfro , says: September 5, 2019 at 2:31 pm GMT

A foreign policy of "maximum pressure" and swagger: tawdry bribes, heavy-handed threats, and complete failure ..now what group does this remind me of?

US State Dept Program Offers $15 Million to Iran Revolutionary Guards September 4, 2019

The US State Department has unveiled a new $15 million "reward program" for anyone who provides information on the financial inner workings of Iran's Revolutionary Guard, in an attempt to further disrupt them.
The program comes after the US declared the Revolutionary Guards "terrorists," but remains very unusual, in as much as it targets an agency of a national government instead of just some random militant group.

The Financial Times reports on the farce that is our government's Iran policy:

Four days before the US imposed sanctions on an Iranian tanker suspected of shipping oil to Syria, the vessel's Indian captain received an unusual email from the top Iran official at the Department of State.
"This is Brian Hook . . . I work for secretary of state Mike Pompeo and serve as the US Representative for Iran," Mr Hook wrote to Akhilesh Kumar on August 26, according to several emails seen by the Financial Times. "I am writing with good news."
The "good news" was that the Trump administration was offering Mr Kumar several million dollars to pilot the ship -- until recently known as the Grace 1 -- to a country that would impound the vessel on behalf of the US. To make sure Mr Kumar did not mistake the email for a scam, it included an official state department phone number.
The administration's Iran obsession has reached a point where they are now trying to bribe people to act as pirates on their behalf. When the U.S. was blocked by a court in Gibraltar from taking the ship, they sought to buy the loyalty of the captain in order to steal it. Failing that, they resorted to their favorite tool of sanctions to punish the captain and his crew for ignoring their illegitimate demand. The captain didn't respond to the first message, so Hook persisted with his embarrassing scheme:
"With this money you can have any life you wish and be well-off in old age," Mr Hook wrote in a second email to Mr Kumar that also included a warning. "If you choose not to take this easy path, life will be much harder for you."
Many people have already mocked Hook's message for its resemblance to a Nigerian prince e-mail scam, and I might add that he comes across here sounding like a B-movie gangster. Hook's contact was not an isolated incident, but part of a series of e-mails and texts that he has sent to various ships' captains in a vain effort to intimidate them into falling in line with the administration's economic war. This is what comes of a foreign policy of "maximum pressure" and swagger: tawdry bribes, heavy-handed threats, and complete failure.

independent109 , says: September 5, 2019 at 2:53 pm GMT
The Committee of 300 is an evolution of the British East Indies Company Council of 300. The list personally last seen included many Windsors (Prince Andrew), Rothchilds, other Royals. Some of the Americans included some now dead and other still living: George HW Bush, Bill Clinton Tom Steyer, Al Gore, John Kerry, Netanyahu, lots of bankers, Woolsey (ex CIA), journalists like Michael Bloomberg, Paul Krugman, activists and politians like Tony Blair, now dead Zbigniew Brzezinski, CEOs Charles and Edgar Bronfman. The list is long and out of date but these people control much of what goes on whether good or bad. Their hands are everywhere doing good and maybe some of this bad stuff.
Irish Savant , says: Website September 5, 2019 at 2:56 pm GMT
Given the facts a 10 year-old child could see that the official 911 explanation was totally flawed. Just three of these facts are sufficient, the 'dancing Israelis', Silverstein admitting to the 'pull (demolish) it' order and the collapse of steel-framed WTC 7 in freefall despite not being hit. It is not hyperbole to say that America is a failed state given that the known perpetrators were never even charged. ZOG indeed.
Junior , says: September 5, 2019 at 4:08 pm GMT
@Kevin Barrett

A respectable civil rights attorney, Lisa Bloom, handled Katie Johnson's case.

"Respectable"?
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
You do realize that Lisa Bloom is the daughter of Glora Allred and defender of Harvey Weinstein do you not?

You people are so desperate to try to link Trump to Epstein it's pathetic.

I suggest you go back to your gatekeeping nonsense of trying to discredit the 9/11 Truth Movement by spreading misinformation about nukes in the towers.

Tony Hall , says: September 5, 2019 at 4:20 pm GMT
This article stakes out much important ground of information and interpretation Kevin Barrett. The essay resonates as a historic statement of some of our current predicaments. What about the comparisons that might be made concerning the mysteries attending the disappearing corpses of Osama bin Laden and Jeffrey Epstein. And according to Christopher Ketcham, the release of the High Fivin' Urban Movers back to Israel was partially negotiated by Alan Dershowitz who played a big role in defending Epstein over a long period.
Tony Hall , says: September 5, 2019 at 4:29 pm GMT
@anon The ultimate "nutjob quackery" of 9/11 is Phillip Zelikow's 9/11 Commission Report, a document that stands as a testimony and marker signifying the USA's descent into a mad hatter's imperium of lies. legend and illusion.
restless94110 , says: September 5, 2019 at 4:40 pm GMT
Has someone (hint: the author of this article) got a real bad case of TDS? Yes, someone has.

Does someone think the pedophilia means consensual relations with 17 year olds? Yes, someone does.

Ronald Thomas West , says: Website September 5, 2019 at 4:58 pm GMT

It is getting harder and harder to satirize the decadence and depravity of the secular West, which insists on parodying itself with ever-increasing outlandishness. When the book on this once-mighty civilization is written, and the ink is dry, readers will be astounded by the limitless lies of the drunk-on-chutzpah psychopaths who ran it into the ground

You might try:

https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2019/07/29/gina-haspel-wild-indians/

'Believers' aren't exactly innocent in the criminal history of the disintegrating Western culture

follyofwar , says: September 5, 2019 at 5:02 pm GMT
@Kevin Barrett Adding to Junior's comment, I quit reading after you wrote of "credible accusations" of Mr. Trump being involved "in the brutal rape of a 13 year old." And feminist shakedown artist Lisa Bloom, daughter of the even more infamous feminist shakedown artist G. Allred, is your "credible source?" Bloom has about as much credibility as the sicko democrat women who tried to derail Judge Kavanaugh.

Regardless of how much one might hate Trump (and I'm no Trump supporter) levelling such unfounded accusations is journalistic malfeasance. Did we elect the Devil Incarnate? Mr. Barrett, I'm done reading you.

9/11 Inside job , says: September 5, 2019 at 5:09 pm GMT
The special relationship between the CIA and the Mossad was driven partly by the efforts of CIA officer James Angleton . Philip Weiss in his article in Mondoweiss entitled "The goy and the golem: James Angleton and the rise of Israel." states that Angleton's " greatest service to Israel was his willingness no to say a word about the apparent diversion of highly enriched plutonium from a plant in Western Pennsylvania to Israel's nascent nuclear program " The same program which JFK tried to curtail which efforts may have led to his assassination .

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Intelligent Dasein , says: Website September 5, 2019 at 5:22 pm GMT

a confessed participant in the controlled demolition of Building 7,

For the love of God, this is stupid. Larry Silverstein was talking about the Fire Commander , for fuck's sake. The Fire Commander made the decision to pull the firefighters out of the building because they could not put the fire out and were in unnecessary danger. That's all he meant. There is not one word in this that has anything to do with a controlled demolition whatsoever.

In order to believe what the 9/11 Douchers would have you believe about this comment, you would have to believe that 1) Building 7 was wired for demolition beforehand; 2) That the NYC Fire Commander somehow knew about this; 3) That the NYC Fire Commander was perfectly okay with allowing his men to spend hours inside a burning building in which he knew that explosive charges had already been rigged to blow; 4) That the NYC Fire Commander had the authority to decide when the charges should be blown and had access to the master switch that would blow them all; 5) That after 7 hours of attempting to fight the fire, the NYC Fire Commander (who by now can be nothing but a full-fledged member of the conspiracy) decides, after briefly consulting with Larry Silverstein, "Oh, the hell with this! Let's just blow up the building now!", to which Larry Silverstein agrees; 6) That after spending 7 hours in a burning building that had fires burning randomly throughout it and that had been struck by multiple pieces of debris, all of the explosive charges and their detonators were still in perfect working order; 7) That none of the firefighters extensively searching the building for survivors happened to notice any of the pre-placed explosive charges nor thought it necessary to report about such; 8) That the NYC Fire Commander then proceeds to "pull" the building after presumably giving some other order for the men to evacuate, which order was never recorded because the "pull" order must have meant "blow up the building"; 9) And that Larry Silverstein, after being part of a massive conspiracy involving insurance fraud, murder, and arson which, if exposed, would send him to a federal death sentence, just decides to casually mention all of this in a television interview for all and sundry to see, but it is only the 9/11 Douchers who pick up on the significance of it.

Does any of this sound remotely believable? Did anyone subscribing to this nonsense stop to think about the context in which this conversation took place? Do any of you 9/11 Douchers even care that you're being completely ridiculous and grasping at nonexistent straws in your vain attempt to establish some sort of case for controlled demolition? Do you even care that everybody can see that what you are saying makes no sense at all? It is perfectly obvious that Larry Silverstein is NOT talking about controlled demolition here. To believe otherwise would require you to literally be insane, to not understand the plain meaning of words and to have no awareness of conversational contexts; yet not only have you swallowed all of this, you have been beating the drum of this insanity for nearly 20 years.

There is no point in reasoning with an insane person. There is, however, the possibility that you don't really believe what you are saying and are just flogging a hobbyhorse, in which case it is you who are engaging in mendacious journalism and trafficking in lies. In either case, you need to be silenced. Neither lies nor insanity have any "right" to be uttered in the public square. You 9/11 Douchers are really the ones doing everything you accuse the mainstream media of doing, and worse. You have become a danger to the public weal and must be stopped. Your conspiratorial nonsense just isn't cute anymore.

Major1 , says: September 5, 2019 at 5:31 pm GMT
Let's recap:

The official stories about the Kennedy assassination, Epstein's death, and 9/11 are clearly suspect. No one with the capacity for critical thinking can seriously deny this. Which elements of these stories are true and which are false will never be resolved.

Because:
The mainstream media including Fox News have abdicated their mission as fact finders and truth tellers. They peddle entertainment and sell ad space. Rachel Maddow foaming at the mouth about Trump's pee tape and Hannity fulminating about FISA abuse are the same product, simply aimed at different demographics.

Nothing in the above two paragraphs is even remotely novel. It's all been said before twenty bazillion times.

... ... ...

Kevin Barrett , says: Website September 5, 2019 at 5:39 pm GMT
Being a feminist or Democrat (or nonfeminist or Republican) is irrelevant to a person's credibility. It's possible that Lisa Bloom was part of a conspiracy to invent a fictitious Katy Johnson story, in which case Bloom is guilty of criminal fraud as well as civil libel. That would be quite a risk for her to take, to say the least. It's also possible that she was somehow duped by others, in which case they would be running the civil and criminal liabilities, while she would just get disbarred for negligence.

The same is true of Johnson's attorney Thomas Meagher.

It is also possible that Johnson's story is at least roughly accurate. There is supporting testimony from another Epstein victim.

If you set aside your prejudices about Democrats-Republicans, feminists-antifeminists, Trump-Hillary, etc., and just look at what's been reported, you'll agree with me that the allegations are credible (but of course unproven). If you suffer emotional blocks against thinking such things about a President, as so many did when similar things were reported about Bill Clinton, I sympathize but also urge you to get psychiatric treatment so you can learn to face unpleasant facts and then get to work cleaning up this country.

CanSpeccy , says: Website September 5, 2019 at 5:42 pm GMT
@utu

The release of Prof. J. Leroy Hulsey report on the finite element analysis of the WTC7 collapse should be a big news.

But won't be.

Democracy works this way. The ruling elite, via the media, Hollywood, etc., tell the people what to think, the people then vote according to the way they think.

Ensuring such top-down control was a primary objective of the bankers, j0urnalists -- including doyen of American journalism, Walter Lippman, and politicians who established the Council on Foreign Relations , America's ruling political establishment.

So the truth of 9/11 will never be known to the majority unless we have a public statement from George W. Bush acknowledging that he personally lit the fuse that set off the explosions that brought WTC 7 down at free-fall speed .

This is fortunate for the intrepid Dr. Hulsey* who would, presumably, otherwise have had to be dispatched by a sudden heart attack, traffic accident, weight-lifting accident suicide with a bullet to the back of the head. As it is, hardly anyone will ever know what he will say or what it means.

* Fortunate also for those who so rashly advocate for truth here and elsewhere on the yet to be fully controlled Internets.

Durruti , says: September 5, 2019 at 5:45 pm GMT
Kevin Barrett

Nicely done. Article will not be featured on front page NYT & discussed on TV.

There are many highlights in your article. This is one.

Epstein's career as a shameless, openly-operating Mossad sexual blackmailer -- like the in-your-face 9/11 coup -- also illustrates another core truth of Western secularism: If there is no God, there are no limits (in this case, to human depravity and what it can get away with). Or as Dostoevsky famously put it: "If God does not exist, everything is permitted."

Morality is officially out of style.

Durruti

anonymous [307] Disclaimer , says: September 5, 2019 at 6:11 pm GMT
Please consult the following papers about the CIA/Mossad crimes against humanity and their pimps who pose as 'politicians' of the fake Western 'democracy' where Epstein was their agent serving their interest as a PIMP.

{from being the work of a single political party, intelligence agency or country, the power structure revealed by the network connected to Epstein is nothing less than a criminal enterprise that is willing to use and abuse children in the pursuit of ever more power, wealth and control.}

https://www.mintpressnews.com/genesis-jeffrey-epstein-bill-clinton-relationship/261455/

[Government by Blackmail: Jeffrey Epstein, Trump's Mentor and the Dark Secrets of the Reagan Era]

https://www.mintpressnews.com/blackmail-jeffrey-epstein-trump-mentor-reagan-era/260760/

Mega Group, Maxwells and Mossad: The Spy Story at the Heart of the Jeffrey Epstein Scandal

https://www.mintpressnews.com/mega-group-maxwells-mossad-spy-story-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/261172/

[Sep 04, 2019] Standard procedure was not following in case of Epstein: the fact the Maxwell was not arrested tells a lot

Notable quotes:
"... Absolutely standard procedure in this case where the conduct took place openly over years would include: a. informants wearing wires; b. securing the crime scenes, including all the properties and the planes; c. simultaneous arrests of 20-50 co-defendants/conspirators ranging from Maxwell and Wexner at the top to most all staff at the properties where the crimes occurred, the pilots, etc. None of this happened. ..."
"... The Bureau of Prisons has two main operations: prisons for convicted offenders and "federal jails". They are completely separate lines of business. The purpose of the "jails" in the federal system, where each District has its own, is to obtain convictions from the detainees. The BOP staff in the jails are members of the prosecution team for all practical purposes. All mail in and out is read and copied. All calls are monitored and recorded. Detainees are placed in units after consultations among the BOP, U.S. Marshals and U.S. Attorneys for the District. ..."
"... Cooperating codefendants may all be placed on the same unit, for example, so that they get their stories straight, while those fighting cases are elsewhere. ..."
"... Snitching is rampant and good information is rewarded by downgrading of charges, lenient sentencing and assignment to sweet spots in the prison system. Berman and his team were involved in formulating and were continuously aware of the most minute details of the conditions of Epstein's confinement. ..."
Sep 04, 2019 | www.unz.com

skeptic23 says: September 3, 2019 at 1:00 am GMT 400 Words Geoffrey Berman, U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, is the only government official who is clearly trustworthy , because he could have stopped the 2019 Epstein indictment and he didn't. I don't think Attorney-General Barr could have blocked it, and I don't think President Trump could have except by firing Berman. I do trust Attorney-General Barr, however, from what I've heard of him and because he instantly and publicly said he would have not just the FBI but the Justice Dept. Inspector-General investigate Epstein's death, and he quickly fired the federal prison head honcho.

The above statement re: Berman is exactly wrong. He is a Trump Appointee and transition team member.

1. There was no real Epstein indictment/investigation , just a piece of paper sufficient to take him into custody and institute a criminal proceeding.

Absolutely standard procedure in this case where the conduct took place openly over years would include: a. informants wearing wires; b. securing the crime scenes, including all the properties and the planes; c. simultaneous arrests of 20-50 co-defendants/conspirators ranging from Maxwell and Wexner at the top to most all staff at the properties where the crimes occurred, the pilots, etc. None of this happened.

They took computers and records from NY and visited Little St. James for a few hours 30 days after the arrest. see Rusty Shackleford videos. The way they always build a case like this is to get the little guys to talk and then move up the food chain to the big boys (and girls).

2. The Bureau of Prisons has two main operations: prisons for convicted offenders and "federal jails". They are completely separate lines of business. The purpose of the "jails" in the federal system, where each District has its own, is to obtain convictions from the detainees. The BOP staff in the jails are members of the prosecution team for all practical purposes. All mail in and out is read and copied. All calls are monitored and recorded. Detainees are placed in units after consultations among the BOP, U.S. Marshals and U.S. Attorneys for the District.

Cooperating codefendants may all be placed on the same unit, for example, so that they get their stories straight, while those fighting cases are elsewhere.

Snitching is rampant and good information is rewarded by downgrading of charges, lenient sentencing and assignment to sweet spots in the prison system. Berman and his team were involved in formulating and were continuously aware of the most minute details of the conditions of Epstein's confinement.

Berman was at the center of whatever it was that happened.

[Sep 04, 2019] A Debauched Culture Leads to a Debauched Foreign Policy

The author should use the word "neoliberal" instead of "debauched"
Notable quotes:
"... When talking about politics, we should be careful not to define "debauched" too narrowly. While debauchery is typically associated with over-indulgence of the sensual pleasures, a more fitting political definition is a general loss of self-control. ..."
"... In the political realm, debauchery is less characterized by the sensual vices than by an overzealous desire for power. ..."
"... The ghost of Jeffrey Epstein is all one needs to see that many elites are very debauched as regards social mores. Yet how might a debauched culture be reflected in the realms of domestic and foreign policy? ..."
"... Class warfare tends to resonate most broadly when the wealthy become self-indulgent and unworthy, and dissolute plutocracies are oft times defended by "conservatives." In the terminal phase of a democracy, this can portend domestic revolution. ..."
"... Belligerent intervention is not nationalism! It is Neocon Texas - Harvard Redneckism ..."
"... I'm not sure I agree with the author's thesis: that debauchery or gratuitous political leadership results in immoral foreign policy. Were the highly-disciplined and self-sacrificing Japanese militarists who bombed Pearl Harbor and aligned with the Axis (Hitler, Mussolini) guided by any more virtuous foreign policy than say, "debauched" Churchill and Roosevelt? I doubt it. ..."
"... The article lacks specifics on how America's leaders are debauched and how this debauchery influences foreign policy, other than to say they are "unrestrained". But is non-restraint debauchery? Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton was running a gratuitous non-profit institute to shake down foreign rulers in return for promising political favors if elected. She was going to sell the country out. ..."
"... We stole Venezuela's assets in the U.S. and even denied their baseball players the ability to send money back to their families, we really love them. We have an oil embargo on Syria and we are the only reason the Saudis are able to starve Yemen. None of these countries have ever done anything to us but it feels good that we can do this and even get most of the world to support us. ..."
"... It drives me crazy that devout Protestants in govt who believe that human nature is corrupt act as if they are standing in the gap while being belligerent and never questioning their own judgment. ..."
"... The problem is that we are led by sociopaths. ..."
"... This current round of unprovoked aggression against small countries started when Clinton attacked Serbia even though he did not have authorization from the UN. He did it because he could -- Russia had collapsed by then so they were powerless to prevent NATO from attacking their ally. No one had the power to stop the hegemon so it was a short journey from the relative restraint of George W. Bush to going beserk all over the world (of course in the name of stopping genocide, ecocide, insecticide or whatever). Get absolute power, get corrupted. ..."
"... I think people like Epstein are state sponsored to use the warped values of the elites to gain political advantage for their masters. Destroying historic value sets is part of this package. ..."
Sep 04, 2019 | www.theamericanconservative.com
TAC are no doubt familiar with the truism that "politics is downstream of culture." This maxim, which is undoubtedly true, should not, however, only be applied to social issues. In fact, culture shapes our public policy very broadly, far more than do dispassionate "policymakers" exercising careful reason and judgment. The nature of our governance tends to reflect the cultural and philosophical orientation of our elites, and this orientation is increasingly debauched.

When talking about politics, we should be careful not to define "debauched" too narrowly. While debauchery is typically associated with over-indulgence of the sensual pleasures, a more fitting political definition is a general loss of self-control.

All the great religious and philosophical traditions understood that there is a part of our nature that can get out of control and a divine part that can exert control. A culture thus becomes debauched when elites lose the sense that they need to rein themselves in, that "there is an immortal essence presiding like a king over" their appetites, as Walter Lippmann put it. In the political realm, debauchery is less characterized by the sensual vices than by an overzealous desire for power.

The ghost of Jeffrey Epstein is all one needs to see that many elites are very debauched as regards social mores. Yet how might a debauched culture be reflected in the realms of domestic and foreign policy?

Let's start with domestic policy. How would debauched elites govern a democracy at home? One might surmise, for example, that their lack of self-control might cause them to spend federal money as a means of keeping themselves in power. They might also attempt to bribe their constituents by promising a variety of domestic programs while also pledging that the programs will be funded out of the pockets of others. If they were really debauched, they might even borrow money from future generations to pay for these incumbency protection initiatives. They might run up staggering debt for the sake of their expedient political needs and promise that "the rich" can provide for it all. In short, the hallmark domestic policy of a debauched democracy is, and has always been, class warfare.

It should be pointed out that class warfare is not simply a creation of demagogues on the left. Class warfare tends to resonate most broadly when the wealthy become self-indulgent and unworthy, and dissolute plutocracies are oft times defended by "conservatives." In the terminal phase of a democracy, this can portend domestic revolution.

While most conservatives might agree about the dangers of class warfare, it is on the foreign policy front where they seem most debauched themselves. They remain stuck in a vortex of GOP clichés, with standard references to Neville Chamberlain and Winston Churchill, leaders who were closer in their time to the American Civil War than we are to them now. For many of these "conservatives," every contemporary authoritarian leader is the progeny of Hitler and any attempt to establish cordial relations is a rerun of Munich 1938.

As with domestic policy, the true sign of a debauched foreign policy is a loss of self-control and an excessive will to power reflected in attempts to exert dominion over others with no particular nexus to the national interest. A debauched foreign policy might just look like the decision to invade Iraq -- a war whose supporters offered numerous justifications, including alleged weapons of mass destruction, democracy promotion, and anti-terrorism. Yet in hindsight, its real cause seems to have been the simple desire by our leaders to impose their will. In a debauched democracy, class warfare is the paradigmatic domestic policy and profligate war making is the paradigmatic foreign policy.

Given that self-control and restraint are the hallmarks of a genuinely conservative foreign policy -- because they remain humble about what human nature can actually achieve -- one should receive the recent conference on national conservatism with some skepticism . The retinue of experts who spoke generally espoused a foreign policy that sought dominion over others -- in other words, a continuation of the belligerent interventionism that characterized the second Bush administration. This may be nationalism, but it seems not to be conservatism.

One hopes that the leaders of this new movement will re-consider their foreign policy orientation as they have increasingly formidable resources to draw upon. The creation of the Quincy Institute and the rise of an intellectually formidable network of foreign policy "restrainers" provide hope.

Given that culture is king, however, these intellectuals may want to keep top of mind that restraint is not simply a policy option but a character trait -- a virtue -- that needs to be developed in leaders who are then elevated. Prudent policies are no doubt essential but the most important challenge in politics is, and always will be, attracting and encouraging the best leaders to rule. Our system often does the opposite. This is at root a cultural problem.

William S. Smith is research fellow and managing director at the Center for the Study of Statesmanship at the Catholic University of America, and author of the new book Democracy and Imperialism .


Chris in Appalachia 21 hours ago

Belligerent intervention is not nationalism! It is Neocon Texas - Harvard Redneckism. The two opposing teams loathe each other.

Other than that, a good analysis.

Wayne Lusvardi 19 hours ago
I'm not sure I agree with the author's thesis: that debauchery or gratuitous political leadership results in immoral foreign policy. Were the highly-disciplined and self-sacrificing Japanese militarists who bombed Pearl Harbor and aligned with the Axis (Hitler, Mussolini) guided by any more virtuous foreign policy than say, "debauched" Churchill and Roosevelt? I doubt it.

Moreover, has the author never heard of the concept "reasons of state"?: a purely political reason for action on the part of a ruler or government, especially where a departure from openness, justice, or honesty is involved (e.g. "the king returned that he had reasons of state for all he did"). In an existential emergency, would the leader of a nation be justified in using amoral means to save his nation; but in all other circumstances should rely on conventional Christian morality as the default position? This is what Pres. Truman apparently did when he dropped a-bombs on two Japanese cities. What Dietrich Bonhoeffer was apparently involved with in the assassination attempt on Hitler. What Moses was embroiled with when he slayed 3,000 of his "debauched" followers in the Exodus from Egypt.

The article lacks specifics on how America's leaders are debauched and how this debauchery influences foreign policy, other than to say they are "unrestrained". But is non-restraint debauchery? Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton was running a gratuitous non-profit institute to shake down foreign rulers in return for promising political favors if elected. She was going to sell the country out.

The opponent who beat her in the election promised the opposite and pretty much has delivered on his promises. Just how is the current administration "unrestrained" other than he has not fulfilled pacifist's fantasies of pulling out of every foreign country and conflict? Such pull outs have to be weighed on a case by case basis to determine the cost to human life and world order. If the current administration has a policy it is that our allies have to fight and fund their own wars and conflicts rather than rely on the U.S. to fight their wars for them.

The article is full of inflationary clichés ('politics is downstream of culture', 'class warfare', etc. And just how does the author connect the dots between pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, who was elected to nothing and held no power over anyone, and our "debauched' foreign policy? Correlation is not causation but there isn't even a correlation there.

tweets21 12 hours ago
The more one reads opinions of Intellectuals , and as anyone with half a brain knows, to never believe a Politician, I am always reminded, after considerable research why I personally choose Realism . Realism is certainly not new and has some varied forms. Realism re-surfaced leading up to and during WW 2.
chris chuba 11 hours ago
"...the true sign of a debauched foreign policy is a loss of self-control and an excessive will to power reflected in attempts to exert dominion over others"


I love this.

We stole Venezuela's assets in the U.S. and even denied their baseball players the ability to send money back to their families, we really love them. We have an oil embargo on Syria and we are the only reason the Saudis are able to starve Yemen. None of these countries have ever done anything to us but it feels good that we can do this and even get most of the world to support us.

This reminds me of a Nick Pemberton article when he wrote ...

"We still play the victim. And amazingly we believe it ... We believe we can take whatever we want. We believe that this world does not contain differences to be negotiated, but foes to be defeated."

I could never get this out of my head.

It drives me crazy that devout Protestants in govt who believe that human nature is corrupt act as if they are standing in the gap while being belligerent and never questioning their own judgment.

Trump the adulterer was the one who decided against bombing because he did not have a taste for blood while the pious were eager for it.

TruthsRonin 10 hours ago
"Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the Earth."
-Matthew 5:5

"Meek" is the wrong word/translation. In the original Greek, the word is "preais" and it does not mean docile and submissive. Rather the word means gentleness blended with restrained strength/power.

The passage should read, "Blessed are those who have swords and know how to use them but keep them sheathed: for they shall inherit the Earth."

Sid Finster 10 hours ago
The problem is that we are led by sociopaths.
fedupindian 10 hours ago
There is a simpler explanation of what has happened to the US. When it comes to human beings, the only thing you need to remember is Lord Acton's dictum: power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

This current round of unprovoked aggression against small countries started when Clinton attacked Serbia even though he did not have authorization from the UN. He did it because he could -- Russia had collapsed by then so they were powerless to prevent NATO from attacking their ally. No one had the power to stop the hegemon so it was a short journey from the relative restraint of George W. Bush to going beserk all over the world (of course in the name of stopping genocide, ecocide, insecticide or whatever). Get absolute power, get corrupted.

The same thing is true domestically in the US. A small ethnic minority gave 50% and 25% of the money spent by the Democrats and Republicans in the last presidential election. That gives them huge influence over the foreign policy of the country. Best of all, no one else can question what is going on because classic tropes etc. Give a small group absolute power, get the swamp.

PAX 9 hours ago
I think people like Epstein are state sponsored to use the warped values of the elites to gain political advantage for their masters. Destroying historic value sets is part of this package.

The destruction of main core Christianity has not helped stem this tide (subtle Happy Holidays, CE, BCE, etc.) . Brave women and men must arise and sewerize (drain the swamp) this mob of miscreants defiling our belief system. .They have a right to exist but not dictate by subterfuge and fake news our values as they have been doing.

NotCatholic 11 hours ago
I find it interesting the author is at Catholic u. I wonder how he feels about the Crusades or the Inquisition as an example of debauchery of power.
Joe R. 8 hours ago
Remove the OP pic of the Marines NOW, and fix the rest of your whine later.

This is America, we have no "betters" and our "gov't" has never, and will never, be comprised of anything other than our idiot ay-whole neighbors who needed a job, whose sole job it is to govern the machinations of gov't and not us, as an un-self-governed Society is otherwise un-governable.

And [due to human nature and physics (of which neither has or will change in the entire history of humanity)] sometimes you have to go to war at the slightest of hints of provocation in order to achieve "illimitably sustainable conflict" of "Society" [J.M. Thomas R., TERMS, 2012] not have to haphazardly fight minute to minute of every day.

If when Political objects are unimportant, motives weak, the excitement of forces small, a cautious commander tries in all kinds of ways, without great crises and bloody solutions, to twist himself skillfully into peace through the characteristic weakness of his enemy in the field and in the cabinet, we have no right to find fault with him, if the premise on which he acts are well founded and justified by success;

still we must require him to remember that he only travels on forbidden tracks, where the God of War may surprise him; that he ought always to keep his eye on the enemy, in order that he may not have to defend himself with a dress rapier if the enemy takes up a sharp sword ”.

(Clausewitz, “On War” pg. 137)

Loosely paraphrased: " peaceable resolution to conflict is only effective, and should only be sought and relied upon, when it is certain that the other party will never resort to arms, with the implication that that is never " [J.M.Thomas R., TERMS, 2012 Pg. 80]

Weakness is provocative don't provoke your enemies. Quit whining.

LFC 8 hours ago
Let’s start with domestic policy. How would debauched elites govern a democracy at home?

Let's see. They'd likely repeatedly cut taxes on the wealthiest and on corporations and skyrocket deficits. They'd likely increase military spending to insane levels to the benefit of the military industrial complex. They'd likely perform wide scale deregulation on polluting industries. They'd ignore all inconvenient science, especially that which didn't support the fossil fuel industry. They'd likely avoid meaningful action on a healthcare system that is more broken and expensive than any other OECD nation. Then they'd look for targets, the "others", to bash and attack in attempt to hide the real world consequences of what they were doing.

Why would they do this? They do it for campaign contributions, "a means of keeping themselves in power."

Clyde Schechter 6 hours ago
"...in other words, a continuation of the belligerent interventionism that characterized the second Bush administration. "

And the Clinton administration before it, and the Obama and Trump administrations following it.

Stephen J. 5 hours ago
I believe we are in the hands of:
The Demons of “Democracy”

The demons of “democracy” speak of “peace”
While their selling of weapons does not cease
Hypocrites from hell who posture on the world stage
When they should be in a gigantic prison cage

Evil reprobates in positions of power
Anything that’s good they devour
Destroying countries and families too
This is the satanic work they do

Fancy titles are given to their names
Such is the state of a system insane
Madness and filth has become “normal”
Nobody speaks or asks: “Is it moral”?

Principals and ethics, they are of them, devoid
Speaking of decency and truth has them annoyed
Pimping for war is their diabolical expertise
Killing and bombing is the forte of this demonic sleaze

Training and supporting terrorists, they do this as well
Will nobody arrest this treacherous crew from hell?
These people are devils and full of hypocrisy
We need to be freed from these, demons of “democracy”...

[much more info on this at link below]

http://graysinfo.blogspot.c...

[Sep 04, 2019] Lawyer For Epstein's 'Madam' Says 'Hundreds Of Names' Contained In Upcoming Records Dump

Sep 04, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Lawyer For Epstein's 'Madam' Says 'Hundreds Of Names' Contained In Upcoming Records Dump

by Tyler Durden Wed, 09/04/2019 - 10:45 0 SHARES

An attorney for Jeffrey Epstein confidant (and alleged groomer) Ghislaine Maxwell told a judge on Wednesday that there are "hundreds" of people named in what is expected to be approximately 2,000 pages of documents ordered unsealed by the federal appeals court in New York, according to Bloomberg .

The lawyer, Jeffrey Pagliuca, told U.S. District Judge Loretta Preska Wednesday that the materials also include an address book with about 1,000 names . Preska is considering how to carry out a ruling by the federal appeals court in New York that she must consider unsealing some of the documents. There was no detail at the hearing as to the identity of the people are named in the documents, and they may include women who say they are victims of Epstein, his friends and others . - Bloomberg

According to court filings, Maxwell was said to have hired, supervised and fired household staff, while directing the visits of dozens of "massage therapists" to Epstein's residence , according to the Journal .

In depositions taken in 2009 and 2010 as part of civil lawsuits against Mr. Epstein, household employees said Ms. Maxwell was a central figure in Mr. Epstein's private life . Several said Ms. Maxwell hired, supervised, and fired household staff, while directing the visits of dozens of "massage therapists" -- typically young women.

Juan Alessi, who said in one of the depositions that he served as the Palm Beach house manager from around 1992 through 2002, described a basket of sex toys in Ms. Maxwell's bathroom closet . He said he would find them around when he cleaned up after visits from the young women. - WSJ

The document release stems from a 2015 defamation lawsuit in New York brought by Epstein accuser Virginia Roberts Giuffre against Maxwell. Giuffre says Maxwell helped Epstein traffic herself and other underage girls to sex parties at the billionaire pedophile's many residences. Maxwell has denied any wrongdoing and called Giuffre a liar.

The case was settled in 2017 and the records were sealed - however appeals by the Miami Herald, Harvard Law professor (and former Epstein pal) Alan Dershowitz and right-wing blogger Mike Cernovich were successful.

In August, the US Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit has ordered the partial release of Epstein documents, which revealed that Giuffre said that President Trump was a "good friend of Jeffrey's," but that Trump 'didn't partake in any sex with any of us," adding "Donald Trump never flirted with me."

Epstein was found dead in federal lockup last month after his arrest on child sex-trafficking charges. While the case was dismissed against Epstein, Judge Preska must now consider how to release the sealed records - and from the looks of it, the possibility remains that they may not be released at all.


Son of Loki , 31 minutes ago link

You can be sure there is a **** storm of fierce fights amongst the pedos going on behind the scenes NOT to release the info.

Prince Andrew is already being "disinvited" from many events in the UK and ireland for fear he'll "change the conversation of the event."

M_Mulligan , 1 hour ago link

The real question about that name list, and why it may or may not be released is:

How many other 'Epsteins' are still active? Observing that Epstein was a hedge fund trader, one might posit that he 'traded' and 'hedged' with other 'non-financial traders' so...

spiderbite , 1 hour ago link

This was the same question I had for Penn State/Jerry Sandusky. My suspicion was there was a vast network across sports with elite alums sponsoring these nefarious activities. Paterno was sacked, an investigator killed and everything got very quiet.

Emergency Ward , 1 hour ago link

The other unasked question in this whole affair:

Who told Acosta to back off Epstein? Reddington probably knows, but isn't saying.

"I was told to back off, he belonged to intelligence."

[Sep 04, 2019] Jeffrey Epstein Was Just Another Stooge For The Elite By Richard Enos

This is just a hypothesis. Where are the facts ? The only facts that we have is that Epstein always got a "special treatment" and the Maxwell and other accomplices were not arrested as is usually ion such cases -- when prosecution tries to find "the weakest link" that starts telling the story and will implicate others.
Aug 30, 2019 | crushlimbraw.blogspot.com

In most circles, the mystery of exactly how Epstein made his fortune was shrugged off as simply part of his personal mystique. Epstein played the role of enigmatic billionaire 'to a T', able to exude the persona of a man who could use his charm and wit to get anything he wanted without revealing many of the nuts and bolts of how he rose to that position. He claimed that he would only advise people whose personal wealth was over a billion, yet any 'evidence' that he moved money around and made investments within the established industry markets were small-time and insignificant.

... ... ...

Steve Pieczenik, who has a storied history as a psychiatrist and a terrorism expert with important roles in foreign affairs with many U.S. administrations said the following about Jeffrey Epstein in the video below:

I want to talk about the Epstein pedophilia ring, what it really is, is a Mossad Israeli operative ring which goes back decades and decades. Jeff Epstein was picked out by the Mossad as the proper agent of influence, because, number one, he was grandiose, two, he had some intelligence and he was so narcissistic that they could manipulate him up and down and create a false front for him, which involved the fact that he had multi-million dollars, multi-billion dollars. But to make sure that Jeffrey Epstein was working properly, they had an operative from the Mossad who was named Maxwell, the daughter of Robert Maxwell, one of the greatest crooks in the world, who was an Israeli Mossad operative. When he died in 1991, he was either killed or he died, he was one of the biggest contributors to Israeli national security than anybody else. What the Israelis did, under the tutelage of two brilliant Mossad chiefs, both of whom used pedophilia as a honey trap to encapsulate any one of our operatives in America. Jeff Epstein was a willing operative.

He willingly was involved in pedophilia, the Israelis knew that, they created his story line, they made believe he was a billionaire, Wexner was the theoretical backup man to him. Acosta, the Secretary of Labor, was correct when he said that Epstein got off of the prosecutor's indictment in Florida because he worked in the intelligence service. And it was not only the Mossad who was involved, clearly the CIA was involved.

Blackmailer And Intelligence Operative

In the clip below from the Collective Evolution Show on CETV (you can watch the full episode as part of your free 7-day trial here ), Joe and I discussed not only Epstein's role as a blackmailer and intelligence operative, but the fact that he is nothing more than one person in a long line of people who have stepped in to play a role in these child sex blackmailing operations.

Connecting Epstein's operations to current CIA and Mossad programs and then further back even before the CIA existed, where these operations were formally being run by the American mafia and other powerful figures, reveals important patterns that help us piece together more accurately exactly what is happening in our world. If there is anything to pay attention to regarding Epstein's death, it is the level of desperation on the part of these powerful forces to squelch public attention around their very real organized criminal conspiracy that operates between intelligence, government, law enforcement, mainstream media and others, in which innocent women and children are taken, raped, and sometimes even tortured and killed as mere casualties of the self-serving power struggles amongst factions of world power.

[Sep 04, 2019] It's clear that the Epstein story is about much more than young girls and political blackmail.

Sep 04, 2019 | www.unz.com

Miro23 , says: September 3, 2019 at 5:37 am GMT

@Taras77

Whitney Webb has done a ton of research on these issues: Barr, Mena airport, Iran-Contra, guns and dope, and Clinton; he worked for Casey, CIA director under Reagan, as they say, there are no ex-spies.

https://www.sott.net/article/419114-From-Spook-Air-to-The-Lolita-Express-The-Genesis-And-Evolution-of-The-Jeffrey-Epstein-Bill-Clinton-Relationship

Thanks for that unbelievably good link.

Epstein has a "history" that explains a lot. When you run through it, it's clear that the Epstein story is about much more than young girls and political blackmail. In fact CIA airfields, drug running, Clintons, money laundering, assassinations etc. The conclusion is that Epstein is only the visible tip of the iceberg.

The Sott.net article is a 100% necessary article to print out and read carefully. It explains better than anything else I've read about how and why the US is in the place it is today.

[Sep 04, 2019] Jean-Luc Brunel is Jewish. He had a nasty reputation for drugging young women and raping them once they became helpless

Sep 04, 2019 | www.unz.com

Flo , says: September 3, 2019 at 5:33 pm GMT

@utu Jean-Luc Brunel is Jewish. He had a nasty reputation for drugging young women and raping them once they became helpless. His "modeling agency" had offices in Paris, N.Y., and Tel Aviv. He's in Israel right now, laying low.

[Sep 02, 2019] Questions Nobody Is Asking About Jeffrey Epstein by Eric Rasmusen

Highly recommended!
While details on Epstein death are not interesting (he ended like a regular pimp) the corruption of high level officials his case revealed in more troubling.
Notable quotes:
"... Epstein was released, and various lawsuits were filed against him and settled out of court, presumably in exchange for silence. The media was quiet or complimentary as Epstein worked his way back into high society. ..."
"... What would I do if I were Epstein? I'd try to get the President, the Attorney-General, or the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York to shut down the investigation before it went public. I'd have all my friends and all my money try to pressure them. If it failed and I were arrested, it would be time for the backup plan -- the Deal. I'd try to minimize my prison time, and, just as important, to be put in one of the nicer federal prisons where I could associate with financial wizards and drug lords instead of serial killers, black nationalists, and people with bad breath. ..."
"... What about the powerful people Epstein would turn in to get his deal? They aren't as smart as Epstein, but they would know the Deal was coming -- that Epstein would be quite happy to sacrifice them in exchange for a prison with a slightly better golf course. What could they do? There's only one good option -- to kill Epstein, and do it quickly, before he could start giving information samples to the U. S. Attorney. ..."
"... Trying to kill informers is absolutely routine in the mafia, or indeed, for gangs of any kind. ..."
"... Famous politicians, unlike gangsters, don't have full-time professional hit men on their staffs, but that's just common sense -- politicians rarely need hit men, so it makes more sense to hire them on a piecework basis than as full-time employees. How would they find hit men? You or I wouldn't know how to start, but it would be easy for them. Rich powerful people have bodyguards. Bodyguards are for defense, but the guys who do defense know guys who do offense. And Epstein's friends are professional networkers. One reporter said of Ghislaine Maxwell, "Her Rolodex would blow away almost anyone else's I can think of -- probably even Rupert Murdoch's." They know people who know people. Maybe I'm six degrees of separation from a mafia hit man, but not Ghislaine Maxwell. I bet she knows at least one mafioso personally who knows more than one hit man. ..."
"... Or, if you can hire a New York Times reporter for $30,000 ( as Epstein famously did a couple of years ago), you can spend $200,000 on a competent hit man to make double sure. Government incompetence does not lend support to the suicide theory; quite the opposite. ..."
"... Statutory rape is not a federal crime ..."
"... At any time from 2008 to the present, Florida and New York prosecutors could have gone after Epstein and easily convicted him. The federal nonprosecution agreement did not bind them. And, of course, it is not just Epstein who should have been prosecuted. Other culprits such as Prince Andrew are still at large. ..."
"... Why isn't anybody but Ann Coulter talking about Barry Krischer and Ric Bradshaw, the Florida state prosecutor and sheriff who went easy on Epstein, or the New York City police who let him violate the sex offender regulations? ..."
"... Krischer refused to use the evidence the Palm Beach police gave him except to file a no-jail-time prostitution charge (they eventually went to Acosta, the federal prosecutor, instead, who got a guilty plea with an 18-month sentence). Bradshaw let him spend his days at home instead of at jail. ..."
"... In New York State, the county prosecutor, Cyrus Vance, fought to prevent Epstein from being classified as a Level III sex offender. Once he was, the police didn't enforce the rule that required him to check in every 90 days. ..."
"... Trafficking is a federal offense, so it would have to involve commerce across state lines. It also must involve sale and profit, not just personal pleasure. ..."
"... Here, the publicity and investigative lead is what is most important, because these are reputable and rich offenders for whom publicity is a bigger threat than losing in court. They have very good lawyers, and probably aren't guilty of federal crimes anyway, just state crimes, in corrupt states where they can use clout more effectively. Thus, killing potential informants before they tell the public is more important than killing informants to prevent their testimony at trial, a much more leisurely task. ..."
"... Geoffrey Berman, U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, is the only government official who is clearly trustworthy, because he could have stopped the 2019 Epstein indictment and he didn't. I don't think Attorney-General Barr could have blocked it, and I don't think President Trump could have except by firing Berman. ..."
"... "It was that heart-wrenching series that caught the attention of Congress. Ben Sasse, the Republican senator from Nebraska, joined with his Democratic colleagues and demanded to know how justice had been so miscarried. ..."
"... President Trump didn't have anything personally to fear from Epstein. He is too canny to have gotten involved with him, and the press has been eagerly at work to find the slightest connection between him and Epstein and have come up dry as far as anything but acquaintanceship. But we must worry about a cover-up anyway, because rich and important people would be willing to pay Trump a lot in money or, more likely, in political support, if he does a cover-up. ..."
"... he sealing was completely illegal, as the appeals court politely but devastatingly noted in 2019, and the documents were released a day or two before Epstein died. Someone should check into Judge Sweet's finance and death. He was an ultra-Establishment figure -- a Yale man, alas, like me, and Taft School -- so he might just have been protecting what he considered good people, but his decision to seal the court records was grossly improper. ..."
"... Did Epstein have any dealings in sex, favors, or investments with any Republican except Wexner? ..."
"... Dershowitz, Mitchell, Clinton, Richardson, Dubin, George Stephanopolous, Lawrence Krauss, Katie Couric, Mortimer Zuckerman, Chelsea Handler, Cyrus Vance, and Woody Allen, are all Democrats. Did Epstein ever make use of Republicans? Don't count Trump, who has not been implicated despite the media's best efforts and was probably not even a Republican back in the 90's. Don't count Ken Starr– he's just one of Epstein's lawyers. Don't count scientists who just took money gifts from him. (By the way, Epstein made very little in the way of political contributions , though that little went mostly to Democrats ( $139,000 vs. $18,000 . I bet he extracted more from politicians than he gave to them. ..."
"... What role did Israeli politician Ehud Barak play in all this? ..."
"... Remember Marc Rich? He was a billionaire who fled the country to avoid a possible 300 years prison term, and was pardoned by Bill Clinton in 2001. Ehud Barak, one of Epstein's friends, was one of the people who asked for Rich to be pardoned . Epstein, his killers, and other rich people know that as a last resort they can flee the country and wait for someone like Clinton to come to office and pardon them. ..."
"... "intelligence" is also the kind of excuse people make up so they don't have to say "political pressure." ..."
"... James Patterson and John Connolly published Filthy Rich: A Powerful Billionaire, the Sex Scandal that Undid Him , and All the Justice that Money Can Buy: The Shocking True Story of Jeffrey Epstein . Conchita Sarnoff published TrafficKing: The Jeffrey Epstein Case. I never heard of these before 2019. Did the media bury them? ..."
"... There seems to have been an orchestrated attempt to divert attention to the issue of suicides in prison. Subtle differences in phrasing might help reveal who's been paid off. National Review had an article, "The Conspiracy Theories about Jeffrey Epstein's Death Don't Make Much Sense." The article contains no evidence or argument to support the headline's assertion, just bluster about "madness" and "conspiracy theories". Who else publishes stuff like this? ..."
"... The New York Times was, to its credit, willing to embarrass other publications by 2019. But the Times itself had been part of the cover-up in previous years . Who else was? ..."
"... Not one question involving Maurene Comey, then? She was one of the SDNY prosecutors assigned to this case, and her name has been significantly played down (if at all visible) in the reportage before or after Epstein's death. That she just "happened" to be on this case at all is quite an eyebrow raiser especially with her father under the ongoing "Spygate" investigation ..."
"... As important as it is to go on asking questions about the life and death of Jeffrey Epstein, I have to admit that personally I'm just not interested. I've always found people of his social class to be vaguely repulsive even without the sordid sex allegations. Just their demanding personalities, just the thought of them hanging around in their terrycloth jogging suits, sneering at the world with their irrefrangible arrogance, is enough to make me shudder. I want nothing of their nightmare world; and when they die, I couldn't care less. ..."
"... We are supposed to have faith in this rubbish? The cameras malfunctioned. He didn't have a cellmate. The guards were tired and forced to work overtime. ..."
"... One tiny mention of Jewish magnate Les Wexner but no mention how he & the Bronfmans founded the 'Mega Group' of ultra-Zionist billionaires regularly meeting as to how they could prop up the Jewish state by any & all means, Wexner being the source of many Epstein millions, the original buyer of the NYC mansion he transferred to Epstein etc the excellent Epstein series by Whitney Webb on Mint Press covering all this https://www.mintpressnews.com/author/whitney-webb/ ..."
"... ex-OSS father Donald Barr had written a 'fantasy novel' on sex slavery with scenes of rape of underage teens, 'Space Relations', written whilst Don Barr was headmaster of the Dalton school, which gave Epstein his first job, teaching teens ..."
Sep 02, 2019 | www.unz.com

The Jeffrey Epstein case is notable for the ups and downs in media coverage it's gotten over the years. Everybody, it seems, in New York society knew by 2000 that Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell were corrupting teenage girls, but the press wouldn't cover it. Articles by New York in 2002 and Vanity Fair in 2003 alluded to it gently, while probing Epstein's finances more closely. In 2005, the Palm Beach police investigated. The county prosecutor, Democrat Barry Krischer, wouldn't prosecute for more than prostitution, so they went to the federal prosecutor, Republican Alexander Acosta, and got the FBI involved. Acosta's office prepared an indictment, but before it was filed, he made a deal: Epstein agreed to plead guilty to a state law felony and receive a prison term of 18 months. In exchange, the federal interstate sex trafficking charges would not be prosecuted by Acosta's office. Epstein was officially at the county jail for 13 months, where the county officials under Democratic Sheriff Ric Bradshaw gave him scandalously easy treatment , letting him spend his days outside, and letting him serve a year of probation in place of the last 5 months of his sentence. Acosta's office complained, but it was a county jail, not a federal jail, so he was powerless.

Epstein was released, and various lawsuits were filed against him and settled out of court, presumably in exchange for silence. The media was quiet or complimentary as Epstein worked his way back into high society. Two books were written about the affair, and fell flat. The FBI became interested again around 2011 ( a little known fact ) and maybe things were happening behind the scenes, but the next big event was in 2018 when the Miami Herald published a series of investigative articles rehashing what had happened.

In 2019 federal prosecutors indicted Epstein, he was put in jail, and he mysteriously died. Now, after much complaining in the press about how awful jails are and how many people commit suicide, things are quiet again, at least until the Justice Department and the State of Florida finish their investigation a few years from now. (For details and more links, see " Investigation: Jeffrey Epstein "at Medium.com and " Jeffrey Epstein " at Wikipedia .)

I'm an expert in the field of "game theory", strategic thinking. What would I do if I were Epstein? I'd try to get the President, the Attorney-General, or the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York to shut down the investigation before it went public. I'd have all my friends and all my money try to pressure them. If it failed and I were arrested, it would be time for the backup plan -- the Deal. I'd try to minimize my prison time, and, just as important, to be put in one of the nicer federal prisons where I could associate with financial wizards and drug lords instead of serial killers, black nationalists, and people with bad breath.

That's what Epstein would do. What about the powerful people Epstein would turn in to get his deal? They aren't as smart as Epstein, but they would know the Deal was coming -- that Epstein would be quite happy to sacrifice them in exchange for a prison with a slightly better golf course. What could they do? There's only one good option -- to kill Epstein, and do it quickly, before he could start giving information samples to the U. S. Attorney.

Trying to kill informers is absolutely routine in the mafia, or indeed, for gangs of any kind. The reason people call such talk "conspiracy theories" when it comes to Epstein is that his friends are WASPs and Jews, not Italians and Mexicans. But WASPs and Jews are human too. They want to protect themselves. Famous politicians, unlike gangsters, don't have full-time professional hit men on their staffs, but that's just common sense -- politicians rarely need hit men, so it makes more sense to hire them on a piecework basis than as full-time employees. How would they find hit men? You or I wouldn't know how to start, but it would be easy for them. Rich powerful people have bodyguards. Bodyguards are for defense, but the guys who do defense know guys who do offense. And Epstein's friends are professional networkers. One reporter said of Ghislaine Maxwell, "Her Rolodex would blow away almost anyone else's I can think of -- probably even Rupert Murdoch's." They know people who know people. Maybe I'm six degrees of separation from a mafia hit man, but not Ghislaine Maxwell. I bet she knows at least one mafioso personally who knows more than one hit man.

In light of this, it would be very surprising if someone with a spare $50 million to spend to solve the Epstein problem didn't give it a try. A lot of people can be bribed for $50 million. Thus, we should have expected to see bribery attempts. If none were detected, it must have been because prison workers are not reporting they'd been approached.

Some people say that government incompetence is always a better explanation than government malfeasance. That's obviously wrong -- when an undeserving business gets a contract, it's not always because the government official in charge was just not paying attention. I can well believe that prisons often take prisoners off of suicide watch too soon, have guards who go to sleep and falsify records, remove cellmates from prisoners at risk of suicide or murder, let the TV cameras watching their most important prisoners go on the blink, and so forth. But that cuts both ways.

Remember, in the case of Epstein, we'd expect a murder attempt whether the warden of the most important federal jail in the country is competent or not. If the warden is incompetent, we should expect that murder attempt to succeed. Murder becomes all the more more plausible. Instead of spending $50 million to bribe 20 guards and the warden, you just pay some thug $30,000 to walk in past the snoring guards, open the cell door, and strangle the sleeping prisoner, no fancy James Bond necessary. Or, if you can hire a New York Times reporter for $30,000 ( as Epstein famously did a couple of years ago), you can spend $200,000 on a competent hit man to make double sure. Government incompetence does not lend support to the suicide theory; quite the opposite.

Now to my questions.

Why is nobody blaming the Florida and New York state prosecutors for not prosecuting Epstein and others for statutory rape?

Statutory rape is not a federal crime, so it is not something the Justice Dept. is supposed to investigate or prosecute. They are going after things like interstate sex trafficking. Interstate sex trafficking is generally much harder to prove than statutory rape, which is very easy if the victims will testify.

At any time from 2008 to the present, Florida and New York prosecutors could have gone after Epstein and easily convicted him. The federal nonprosecution agreement did not bind them. And, of course, it is not just Epstein who should have been prosecuted. Other culprits such as Prince Andrew are still at large.

Note that if even if the evidence is just the girl's word against Ghislaine Maxwell's or Prince Andrew's, it's still quite possible to get a jury to convict. After all, who would you believe, in a choice between Maxwell, Andrew, and Anyone Else in the World? For an example of what can be done if the government is eager to convict, instead of eager to protect important people, see the 2019 Cardinal Pell case in Australia. He was convicted by the secret testimony of a former choirboy, the only complainant, who claimed Pell had committed indecent acts during a chance encounter after Mass before Pell had even unrobed. Naturally, the only cardinal to be convicted of anything in the Catholic Church scandals is also the one who's done the most to fight corruption. Where there's a will, there's a way to prosecute. It's even easier to convict someone if he's actually guilty.

Why isn't anybody but Ann Coulter talking about Barry Krischer and Ric Bradshaw, the Florida state prosecutor and sheriff who went easy on Epstein, or the New York City police who let him violate the sex offender regulations?

Krischer refused to use the evidence the Palm Beach police gave him except to file a no-jail-time prostitution charge (they eventually went to Acosta, the federal prosecutor, instead, who got a guilty plea with an 18-month sentence). Bradshaw let him spend his days at home instead of at jail.

In New York State, the county prosecutor, Cyrus Vance, fought to prevent Epstein from being classified as a Level III sex offender. Once he was, the police didn't enforce the rule that required him to check in every 90 days.

How easy would it have been to prove in 2016 or 2019 that Epstein and his people were guilty of federal sex trafficking?

Not easy, I should think. It wouldn't be enough to prove that Epstein debauched teenagers. Trafficking is a federal offense, so it would have to involve commerce across state lines. It also must involve sale and profit, not just personal pleasure. The 2019 indictment is weak on this. The "interstate commerce" looks like it's limited to Epstein making phone calls between Florida and New York. This is why I am not completely skeptical when former U.S. Attorney Acosta says that the 2008 nonprosecution deal was reasonable. He had strong evidence the Epstein violated Florida state law -- but that wasn't relevant. He had to prove violations of federal law.

Why didn't Epstein ask the Court, or the Justice Dept., for permission to have an unarmed guard share his cell with him?

Epstein had no chance at bail without bribing the judge, but this request would have been reasonable. That he didn't request a guard is, I think, the strongest evidence that he wanted to die. If he didn't commit suicide himself, he was sure making it easy for someone else to kill him.

Could Epstein have used the safeguard of leaving a trove of photos with a friend or lawyer to be published if he died an unnatural death?

Well, think about it -- Epstein's lawyer was Alan Dershowitz. If he left photos with someone like Dershowitz, that someone could earn a lot more by using the photos for blackmail himself than by dutifully carrying out his perverted customer's instructions. The evidence is just too valuable, and Epstein was someone whose friends weren't the kind of people he could trust. Probably not even his brother.

Who is in danger of dying next?

Prison workers from guard to warden should be told that if they took bribes, their lives are now in danger. Prison guards may not be bright enough to realize this. Anybody who knows anything important about Epstein should be advised to publicize their information immediately. That is the best way to stay alive.

This is not like a typical case where witnesses get killed so they won't testify. It's not like with gangsters. Here, the publicity and investigative lead is what is most important, because these are reputable and rich offenders for whom publicity is a bigger threat than losing in court. They have very good lawyers, and probably aren't guilty of federal crimes anyway, just state crimes, in corrupt states where they can use clout more effectively. Thus, killing potential informants before they tell the public is more important than killing informants to prevent their testimony at trial, a much more leisurely task.

What happened to Epstein's body?

The Justice Dept. had better not have let Epstein's body be cremated. And they'd better give us convincing evidence that it's his body. If I had $100 million to get out of jail with, acquiring a corpse and bribing a few people to switch fingerprints and DNA wouldn't be hard. I find it worrying that the government has not released proof that Epstein is dead or a copy of the autopsy.

Was Epstein's jail really full of mice?

The New York Times says,

"Beyond its isolation, the wing is infested with rodents and cockroaches, and inmates often have to navigate standing water -- as well as urine and fecal matter -- that spills from faulty plumbing, accounts from former inmates and lawyers said. One lawyer said mice often eat his clients' papers."

" Often have to navigate standing water"? "Mice often eat his clients' papers?" Really? I'm skeptical. What do the vermin eat -- do inmates leave Snickers bars open in their cells? Has anyone checked on what the prison conditions really like?

Is it just a coincidence that Epstein made a new will two days before he died?

I can answer this one. Yes, it is coincidence, though it's not a coincidence that he rewrote the will shortly after being denied bail. The will leaves everything to a trust, and it is the trust document (which is confidential), not the will (which is public), that determines who gets the money. Probably the only thing that Epstein changed in his will was the listing of assets, and he probably changed that because he'd just updated his list of assets for the bail hearing anyway, so it was a convenient time to update the will.

Did Epstein's veiled threat against DOJ officials in his bail filing backfire?

Epstein's lawyers wrote in his bail request,

"If the government is correct that the NPA does not, and never did, preclude a prosecution in this district, then the government will likely have to explain why it purposefully delayed a prosecution of someone like Mr. Epstein, who registered as a sex offender 10 years ago and was certainly no stranger to law enforcement. There is no legitimate explanation for the delay."

I see this as a veiled threat. The threat is that Epstein would subpoena people and documents from the Justice Department relevant to the question of why there was a ten-year delay before prosecution, to expose the illegitimate explanation for the delay. Somebody is to blame for that delay, and court-ordered disclosure is a bigger threat than an internal federal investigation.

Who can we trust?

Geoffrey Berman, U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, is the only government official who is clearly trustworthy, because he could have stopped the 2019 Epstein indictment and he didn't. I don't think Attorney-General Barr could have blocked it, and I don't think President Trump could have except by firing Berman. I do trust Attorney-General Barr, however, from what I've heard of him and because he instantly and publicly said he would have not just the FBI but the Justice Dept. Inspector-General investigate Epstein's death, and he quickly fired the federal prison head honcho. The FBI is untrustworthy, but Inspector-Generals are often honorable.

Someone else who may be a hero in this is Senator Ben Sasse. Vicki Ward writes in the Daily Beast :

"It was that heart-wrenching series that caught the attention of Congress. Ben Sasse, the Republican senator from Nebraska, joined with his Democratic colleagues and demanded to know how justice had been so miscarried.

Given the political sentiment, it's unsurprising that the FBI should feel newly emboldened to investigate Epstein -- basing some of their work on Brown's excellent reporting."

Will President Trump Cover Up Epstein's Death in Exchange for Political Leverage?

President Trump didn't have anything personally to fear from Epstein. He is too canny to have gotten involved with him, and the press has been eagerly at work to find the slightest connection between him and Epstein and have come up dry as far as anything but acquaintanceship. But we must worry about a cover-up anyway, because rich and important people would be willing to pay Trump a lot in money or, more likely, in political support, if he does a cover-up.

Why did Judge Sweet order Epstein documents sealed in 2017. Did he die naturally in 2019?

Judge Robert Sweet in 2017 ordered all documents in an Epstein-related case sealed. He died in May 2019 at age 96, at home in Idaho. The sealing was completely illegal, as the appeals court politely but devastatingly noted in 2019, and the documents were released a day or two before Epstein died. Someone should check into Judge Sweet's finance and death. He was an ultra-Establishment figure -- a Yale man, alas, like me, and Taft School -- so he might just have been protecting what he considered good people, but his decision to seal the court records was grossly improper.

Did Epstein have any dealings in sex, favors, or investments with any Republican except Wexner?

Dershowitz, Mitchell, Clinton, Richardson, Dubin, George Stephanopolous, Lawrence Krauss, Katie Couric, Mortimer Zuckerman, Chelsea Handler, Cyrus Vance, and Woody Allen, are all Democrats. Did Epstein ever make use of Republicans? Don't count Trump, who has not been implicated despite the media's best efforts and was probably not even a Republican back in the 90's. Don't count Ken Starr– he's just one of Epstein's lawyers. Don't count scientists who just took money gifts from him. (By the way, Epstein made very little in the way of political contributions , though that little went mostly to Democrats ( $139,000 vs. $18,000 . I bet he extracted more from politicians than he gave to them.

What role did Israeli politician Ehud Barak play in all this?

Remember Marc Rich? He was a billionaire who fled the country to avoid a possible 300 years prison term, and was pardoned by Bill Clinton in 2001. Ehud Barak, one of Epstein's friends, was one of the people who asked for Rich to be pardoned . Epstein, his killers, and other rich people know that as a last resort they can flee the country and wait for someone like Clinton to come to office and pardon them.

Acosta said that Washington Bush Administration people told him to go easy on Epstein because he was an intelligence source. That is plausible. Epstein had info and blackmailing ability with people like Ehud Barak, leader of Israel's Labor Party. But "intelligence" is also the kind of excuse people make up so they don't have to say "political pressure."

Why did nobody pay attention to the two 2016 books on Epstein?

James Patterson and John Connolly published Filthy Rich: A Powerful Billionaire, the Sex Scandal that Undid Him , and All the Justice that Money Can Buy: The Shocking True Story of Jeffrey Epstein . Conchita Sarnoff published TrafficKing: The Jeffrey Epstein Case. I never heard of these before 2019. Did the media bury them?

Which newspapers reported Epstein's death as "suicide" and which as "apparent suicide"?

More generally, which media outlets seem to be trying to brush Epstein's death under the rug? There seems to have been an orchestrated attempt to divert attention to the issue of suicides in prison. Subtle differences in phrasing might help reveal who's been paid off. National Review had an article, "The Conspiracy Theories about Jeffrey Epstein's Death Don't Make Much Sense." The article contains no evidence or argument to support the headline's assertion, just bluster about "madness" and "conspiracy theories". Who else publishes stuff like this?

How much did Epstein corrupt the media from 2008 to 2019?

Even outlets that generally publish good articles must be suspected of corruption. Epstein made an effort to get good publicity. The New York Times wrote,

"The effort led to the publication of articles describing him as a selfless and forward-thinking philanthropist with an interest in science on websites like Forbes, National Review and HuffPost .

All three articles have been removed from their sites in recent days, after inquiries from The New York Times .

The National Review piece, from the same year, called him "a smart businessman" with a "passion for cutting-edge science."

Ms. Galbraith was also a publicist for Mr. Epstein, according to several news releases promoting Mr. Epstein's foundations In the article that appeared on the National Review site, she described him as having "given thoughtfully to countless organizations that help educate underprivileged children."

"We took down the piece, and regret publishing it," Rich Lowry, the editor of National Review since 1997, said in an email. He added that the publication had "had a process in place for a while now to weed out such commercially self-interested pieces from lobbyists and PR flacks.""

The New York Times was, to its credit, willing to embarrass other publications by 2019. But the Times itself had been part of the cover-up in previous years . Who else was?

Eric Rasmusen is an economist who has held an endowed chair at Indiana University's Kelley School of Business and visiting positions at Harvard Law School, Yale Law School, the Harvard Economics Department, Chicago's Booth School of Business, Nuffield College/Oxford, and the University of Tokyo Economics Department. He is best known for his book Games and Information. He has published extensively in law and economics, including recent articles on the burakumin outcastes in Japan, the use of game theory in jurisprudence, and quasi-concave functions. The views expressed here are his personal views and are not intended to represent the views of the Kelley School of Business or Indiana University. His vitae is at http://www.rasmusen.org/vita.htm .


Paul.Martin , says: September 2, 2019 at 3:54 am GMT

Not one question involving Maurene Comey, then? She was one of the SDNY prosecutors assigned to this case, and her name has been significantly played down (if at all visible) in the reportage before or after Epstein's death. That she just "happened" to be on this case at all is quite an eyebrow raiser especially with her father under the ongoing "Spygate" investigation

Apparently, there will always be many players on the field, and many ways to do damage control.

utu , says: September 2, 2019 at 4:43 am GMT

How easy would it have been to prove in 2016 or 2019 that Epstein and his people were guilty of federal sex trafficking?

It would be very easy for a motivated prosecutor.

Mann Act: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mann_Act The Mann Act was successfully used to prosecute several Christian preachers in 2008, 2010 and 2012.

So the problem was finding a motivated prosecutor in case of Jewish predator with very likely links to intelligence services of several countries. The motivation was obviously lacking.

Your "expertise" in game theory would be greatly improved if you let yourself consider the Jewish factor.

Intelligent Dasein , says: Website September 2, 2019 at 4:44 am GMT
As important as it is to go on asking questions about the life and death of Jeffrey Epstein, I have to admit that personally I'm just not interested. I've always found people of his social class to be vaguely repulsive even without the sordid sex allegations. Just their demanding personalities, just the thought of them hanging around in their terrycloth jogging suits, sneering at the world with their irrefrangible arrogance, is enough to make me shudder. I want nothing of their nightmare world; and when they die, I couldn't care less.
utu , says: September 2, 2019 at 4:46 am GMT

More generally, which media outlets seem to be trying to brush Epstein's death under the rug?

Not the National Enquirer:

Jeffrey Epstein Murder Cover-up Exposed!
Death Scene Staged to Look Like Suicide
Billionaire's Screams Ignored by Guards!
Fatal Attack Caught on Jail Cameras!
Autopsy is Hiding the Truth!

National Enquirer, Sept 2. 2019
https://reader.magzter.com/preview/7l5c5vd5t28thcmigloxel3670370/367037

Mark James , says: September 2, 2019 at 6:33 am GMT
I don't hold AG Barr in the high regard this piece does. While I'm not suggesting he had anything to do with Epstein's death I do think he's corrupt. I doubt he will do anything that leads to the truth. As for him relieving the warden of his duties, I would hope that was to be expected, wasn't it? I mean he only had two attempts on Epstein's life with the second being a success. Apparently the first didn't jolt the warden into some kind of action as it appears he was guilty of a number of sins including 'Sloth.'

As for the publications that don't like conspiracy theories –like the National Review -- they are a hoot. We are supposed to have faith in this rubbish? The cameras malfunctioned. He didn't have a cellmate. The guards were tired and forced to work overtime. There was no camera specifically in the cell with Epstein.
In the end I think Epstein probably was allowed to kill himself but I'm not confident in that scenario at all. And yes the media should pressure Barr to hav e a look in the cell and see exactly how a suicide attempt might have succeeded or if it was a long-shot at best, given the materiel and conditions.

SafeNow , says: September 2, 2019 at 6:49 am GMT
19. Why is the non-prosecution agreement ambiguous ("globally" binding), when it was written by the best lawyers in the country for a very wealthy client? Was the ambiguity bargained-for? If so, what are the implications?

20. With "globally" still being unresolved (to the bail judge's first-paragraph astonishment), why commit suicide now?

21. The "it was malfeasance" components are specified. For mere malfeasance to have been the cause, all of the components would have to be true; it would be a multiplicative function of the several components. Is no one sufficiently quantitative to estimate the magnitude?

22. What is the best single takeaway phrase that emerges from all of this? My nomination is: "In your face." The brazen, shameless, unprecedented, turning-point, in-your-faceness of it.

sally , says: September 2, 2019 at 7:32 am GMT
ER the answer is easy to you list of questions .. there is no law in the world when violations are not prosecuted and fair open for all to see trials are not held and judges do not deliver the appropriate penalties upon convictions. .. in cases involving the CIA prosecution it is unheard of that a open for all to see trial takes place.

This is why we the governed masses need a parallel government..

such an oversight government would allow to pick out the negligent or wilful misconduct of persons in functional government and prosecute such persons in the independent people's court.. Without a second government to oversee the first government there is no democracy; democracy cannot stand and the governed masses will never see the light of a fair day .. unless the masses have oversight authority on what is to be made into law, and are given without prejudice to their standing in America the right to charge those associated to government with negligent or wilful misconduct.

mypoint

Anonymous [425] Disclaimer , says: Website September 2, 2019 at 7:33 am GMT

https://www.youtube.com/embed/fMG8SVrqstg?feature=oembed

Brabantian , says: September 2, 2019 at 8:31 am GMT
There are big questions this article is not asking either

The words 'Mossad' seems not to appear above, and just a brief mention of 'Israel' with Ehud Barak

One tiny mention of Jewish magnate Les Wexner but no mention how he & the Bronfmans founded the 'Mega Group' of ultra-Zionist billionaires regularly meeting as to how they could prop up the Jewish state by any & all means, Wexner being the source of many Epstein millions, the original buyer of the NYC mansion he transferred to Epstein etc the excellent Epstein series by Whitney Webb on Mint Press covering all this
https://www.mintpressnews.com/author/whitney-webb/

Was escape to freedom & Israe,l the ultimate payoff for Epstein's decades of work for Mossad, grooming and abusing young teens, filmed in flagrante delicto with prominent people for political blackmail?

Is it not likely this was a Mossad jailbreak covered by fake 'suicide', with Epstein alive now, with US gov now also in possession of the assumed Epstein sexual blackmail video tapes?

We have the Epstein 'death in jail' under the US Attorney General Bill Barr, a former CIA officer 1973-77, the CIA supporting him thru night law school, Bill Barr's later law firm Kirkland Ellis representing Epstein

Whose Jewish-born ex-OSS father Donald Barr had written a 'fantasy novel' on sex slavery with scenes of rape of underage teens, 'Space Relations', written whilst Don Barr was headmaster of the Dalton school, which gave Epstein his first job, teaching teens

So would a crypto-Jewish 'former' CIA officer who is now USA Attorney General, possibly help a Mossad political blackmailer escape to Israel after a fake 'jail suicide'?

An intriguing 4chan post a few hours after Epstein's 'body was discovered', says Epstein was put in a wheelchair and driven out of the jail in a van, accompanied by a man in a green military uniform – timestamp is USA Pacific on the screencap apparently, so about 10:44 NYC time Sat.10 Aug

FWIW, drone video of Epstein's Little St James island from Friday 30 August, shows a man who could be Epstein himself, on the left by one vehicle, talking to a black man sitting on a quad all-terrain unit

Close up of Epstein-like man between vehicles, from video note 'pale finger' match-up to archive photo Epstein

Anon [261] Disclaimer , says: September 2, 2019 at 8:34 am GMT
The thing that sticks out for me is that Epstein was caught, charged, and went to jail previously, but he didn't die . The second time, it appears he was murdered. I strongly suspect that the person who murdered Epstein was someone who only met Epstein after 2008, or was someone Epstein only procured for after 2008. Otherwise, this person would have killed Epstein back when Epstein was charged by the cops the first time.

Either that, or the killer is someone who is an opponent of Trump, and this person was genuinely terrified that Trump would pressure the Feds to avoid any deals and to squeeze all the important names out of Epstein and prosecute them, too.

anonymous [340] Disclaimer , says: September 2, 2019 at 8:37 am GMT
The author professes himself "expert in the field of "game theory", strategic thinking," but he doesn't say how his 18 questions were arrived at to the exclusion of hundreds of others. Instead, the column includes several casual assumptions and speculation. For example:

As to this last, isn't "quickly [firing] the federal prison head honcho" consistent with a failure-to-prevent-suicide deflection strategy? And has Mr. Rasmusen not "heard" of the hiring of Mr. Epstein by Mr. Barr's father? Or of the father's own Establishment background?

I hope to be wrong, but my own hunch is that these investigations, like the parallel investigations of the RussiaGate hoax, will leave the elite unscathed. I also hope that in the meantime we see more rigorous columns here than this one.

Miro23 , says: September 2, 2019 at 9:45 am GMT

...Also, subsequently, it should have been a top priority to arrest Ghislaine Maxwell but the government, justice and media lack interest . Apparently, they don't know where she is, and they're not making any special efforts to find out.

Sick of Orcs , says: September 2, 2019 at 9:45 am GMT
Epstein had no "dead man's switch" which would release what he knew to media? C'mon! This is basic Villainy 101.

[Sep 01, 2019] Pedophilia as an instrument to compromise politicians

Notable quotes:
"... Child trafficking also serves three organizational functions. First, it provides reliably adverse compromising information to securely control CIA assets. Second, it initiates nomenklatura with grandiose feelings of power and freedom. (Recall Craig Spence worked hand-in-glove with Don Gregg, Ray Kline, DeGenova, Toensing, all the CIA big shots.) Third, pedophile abuse maintains a pool of persons with severe dissociative disorders who can be induced to commit, or just take the fall for, CIA crimes. ..."
"... "The Committee is concerned that the State party is one of theworld's largest producers, distributors and consumers of child pornography The Committee is concerned at the information that the State party remains among the main source countries for child sex tourism The Committee is concerned at the information that prostitution of children is a widespread and increasing phenomenon in the State party." ..."
Sep 01, 2019 | www.unz.com

hubba hubba Jon-Benet , says: February 8, 2019 at 4:21 pm GMT

We mustn't get wrapped around the axle with the satanist business. That's nonessential, sizzle for the steak. It helps CIA deride their denouncers as nuts. It's best to stick to a functional point of view: what does ritual 'satanic' abuse do for CIA?

Pedophile child trafficking is a CIA profit center that helps top up its unappropriated slush fund for clandestine crime. (Recall that FBI turbocharged Playpen, increasing its turnover and inventory by orders of magnitude. If you think that stuff sits on the shelf unused, well then I am a Nigerian Prince, please help me get my millions from the bank.)

Child trafficking also serves three organizational functions. First, it provides reliably adverse compromising information to securely control CIA assets. Second, it initiates nomenklatura with grandiose feelings of power and freedom. (Recall Craig Spence worked hand-in-glove with Don Gregg, Ray Kline, DeGenova, Toensing, all the CIA big shots.) Third, pedophile abuse maintains a pool of persons with severe dissociative disorders who can be induced to commit, or just take the fall for, CIA crimes.

When interdiction of child sexual abuse escaped FBI control and passed to a world-standard organization, unprecedented loads of shit hit the fan. It was great.

https://tbinternet.ohchr.org/_layouts/treatybodyexternal/Download.aspx?symbolno=CRC%2fC%2fOPSC%2fUSA%2fQ%2f2&Lang=en

"The Committee is concerned that the State party is one of theworld's largest producers, distributors and consumers of child pornography The Committee is concerned at the information that the State party remains among the main source countries for child sex tourism The Committee is concerned at the information that prostitution of children is a widespread and increasing phenomenon in the State party."

The Committee breaks down how the CIA regime keeps the traffic going with organizational deficiencies and feckless law enforcement busywork.

CIA pedophile trafficking constantly morphs: The Boy's Town/Franklin Scandal, The Dutroux Organization in Belgium, PIE/care homes in Britain, The Presidio, The McMaster School, The Finders, Craig Spence, the Digital Entertainment Network, Penn State/Fifth mile, the Congressional pedophile page ring of Foley/Hastert, the John of God child-livestock biz, and the continual dull roar of child migrant trafficking in California, Arizona, Florida, Texas, and Washington State.

Shitloads of links on request, but this is all open-source.

[Sep 01, 2019] What Jeffrey Epstein 'could not buy, he forcibly took' His accusers speak out in court

Epstein was strategic in recruiting girls and he selected those who badly need money and were ready for moral compromises to get to modeling career, or acting or massage therapy.
In a was this was a replay of how Hollywood treats starlets but a different set of "customers" for the girls. What is unclear why Maxwell was in this dirty business. Was it for money ?
Sep 01, 2019 | www.nbcnews.com

"The investigation into those matters has been ongoing, is ongoing, and will continue," a prosecutor for the Southern District of New York said.

Several accusers who spoke in court Tuesday named Epstein's former longtime associate, Ghislaine Maxwell.

"We all know he did not act alone," Sarah Ransome said, asking prosecutors to "finish what you have started."

Theresa Helm said that Maxwell needs to be "held accountable."

https://tpc.googlesyndication.com/safeframe/1-0-35/html/container.html?n=0

Another accuser, Virginia Roberts Giuffre, said she was 17 when Maxwell allegedly recruited her. Giuffre said she was told that she could have a career as a massage therapist, but she instead became "a victim of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell and the horrible acts they committed against me."

"I commend the prosecutors for the Southern District of New York for their ongoing pursuit of justice," she said.

Maxwell, a British socialite, has been named in some court filings by women alleging abuse by Epstein.

A cache of court papers relating to a separate 2015 federal defamation lawsuit filed by Giuffre against Maxwell shows that she claimed in a 2016 deposition that Epstein and Maxwell groomed her to become a "sex slave" for high-powered men starting when she was 16.

Maxwell has not been charged with a crime and has not commented publicly since the papers were released earlier this month. Her lawyer also has not previously returned a request for comment upon release of the documents Friday and could not be immediately reached on Tuesday.

Previously, in a motion to dismiss the suit, Maxwell's lawyers said Giuffre "produced no evidence substantiating any of her fantastical claims that she had been trafficked by Epstein, or by Maxwell."

U.S. Attorney Geoffrey Berman said Epstein's death was "a rather stunning turn of events" and that giving the women a chance to speak was a matter of law and "respect."

"I believe it is the court's responsibility and in its purview that the victims in the case are dealt with, with dignity and with humanity," he said.

[Aug 30, 2019] Jeffrey Zwi Epstein Migdal by Gilad Atzmon

That version does not explain presence of cameras in multiple Esptein homes. And the past that in his NYC home their installation predate his acquisition (actually the house was gifted to him by Wexner, who is the person who installed the cameras.) Camera is what is used to compromise politicians. Is this a typical mafia activity, or a typical intelligence agencies activity. I think the latter is more plausible.
Notable quotes:
"... Epstein wasn't the first Jewish sex trafficker. This seems like a good time to look back at Zwi Migdal, a Jewish global crime syndicate that operated a century ago and trafficked tens of thousands of Jewish women and under age girls as sex slaves. According to contemporary Jewish writer Giulia Morpurgo the Zwi Migdal had turned Argentina, "into a nightmare of prostitution and exploitation." ..."
"... The Zwi Migdal ..."
"... The Zwi Migdal organization operated from the 1860s to 1939. In its heyday, after the First World War, it had four hundred members in Argentina alone. Its annual turnover was fifty million dollars in the early 1900s. ..."
"... The recently released documents related to the Jeffrey Epstein affair suggest that Epstein and Maxwell were to be charged with child sex trafficking, and as the alleged procurer of underage girls. ..."
"... A very well-mannered and elegant-looking man would appear in a poor Jewish village in places such as Poland or Russia. He would advertise his search for young women to work in the homes of wealthy Jews in Argentina by posting an ad in the local synagogue. Fearful of pogroms and often in desperate economic circumstances, the trusting parents would send their naïve daughters away with these men, hoping to give them a fresh start." ..."
"... The last line recalls Virginia Giuffre's account of her encounter with the elegant British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell who allegedly lured her victims to 'escape' their misery. ..."
"... The Zwi Migdal Organization reached its peak in the 1920s when some 430 rufianos, or pimps, controlled 2,000 brothels trafficking around 30.000 Jewish women and girls in Argentina alone. "The largest brothels of Buenos Aires housed 60 to 80 female sex slaves. There were brothels all over Argentina, but most of them were in the big city, in the Jewish quarter, on Junin Street." ..."
"... One may wonder how all of that fit with Judaic tradition and Talmudic law. "In one brothel," the ACACA reports, "the Madam, an observant Jewish woman, would not let her women work on Fridays but instructed them herself in the art of lovemaking." ..."
"... Many commentators on the Epstein affair are amazed by the incapacity of America's law enforcement, legal system and federal agencies to bring justice to Epstein's victims and its failure to lock him away. Once again, that is not new. The JCACA writes of the Zwi Migdal criminality: "These activities went on undisturbed because they were frequented by government officials, judges, and reporters. City officials, politicians, and police officers were paid off. The pimps had powerful connections everywhere." ..."
"... The Jewish community didn't rush to save their abused daughters. "The prostitutes, who were mostly illiterate, destitute and despised by the mainstream Jewish community, banded together to form their own mutual-aid societies." However, rarely, some Jewish ethnic activists stood for the abused women and girls. "One night Nahum Sorkin, a well-known Zionist activist, stood outside the theatre and physically stopped the rufianos (Jewish pimps) from entering. Next, they were banned from the synagogues, and to top it all, they were refused burial in the Jewish cemetery." ..."
"... Her testimony led to an extensive investigation. The findings reached Dr. Rodriguez Ocampo, a judge who would not take Zwi Migdal bribes either. ..."
"... The lengthy trial ended in September 1930, with 108 detainees. "The very existence of the Zwi Migdal Organization directly threatens our society," the judge wrote in his verdict, handing down long prison terms." ..."
"... As with Epstein and his mobsters friends, things changed quickly and not in favour of justice let alone guided by ethical principles. The Zwi Migdal mobsters were at least as well connected as Epstein to politicians, judges and prosecutors. "While in prison, the pimps pulled some old strings, appealed their sentences in January 1931, and senior Justice Ministry officials left only three of the convicts in jail, discharging the rest." ..."
"... The JCACA sums up the Zwi Migdal saga by stating that the Jewish crime syndicate was "an organization that traded in women while its members wore tefillin (a Jewish religious garment) and built themselves a synagogue." I guess the same can be said about Epstein's ring. They may not be religious, they may not wear Tefillin but they are self identified Jewish Zionists who donate to Israel and vocally support Israel's criminal politics. ..."
"... The Wandering Who ..."
Aug 29, 2019 | dissidentvoice.org

The story of Jeffrey Epstein has lost its mystery as more and more commentators allow themselves to express the thought that it is a strong possibility that Epstein was connected to a crime syndicate affiliated with a Zionist political organisation or Israel and/or at least a few compromised intelligence agencies. Whitney Web and others have produced superb studies of possible scenarios, I would instead like to attack the topic from a cultural perspective. Epstein wasn't the first Jewish sex trafficker. This seems like a good time to look back at Zwi Migdal, a Jewish global crime syndicate that operated a century ago and trafficked tens of thousands of Jewish women and under age girls as sex slaves. According to contemporary Jewish writer Giulia Morpurgo the Zwi Migdal had turned Argentina, "into a nightmare of prostitution and exploitation."

During the first three decades of the 20th century Argentina was a rich country. It outgrew Canada and Australia in population, total income, and per capita income. Just before the first world war Argentina was the world's 10th wealthiest state per capita. When Argentina was a rich country, large parts of its economy, culture and politics were controlled by crime syndicates and particularly a Jewish organised crime apparatus named 'Zwi Migdal.'

In 2009 The International Jewish Coalition Against Sexual Abuse/Assault (JCACA) published a comprehensive article about the Zwi Migdal titled Understanding the Zwi Migdal Society which I am about to quote from extensively.

The Zwi Migdal , was an association of Jewish mobsters who were involved in the "sexual exploitation of Jewish women and children, which operated globally." Apparently the Zwi Migdal originally picked a pretty innocent sounding name: "Warsaw Jewish Mutual Aid Society." It does indeed sound almost as innocent, humane and charitable as 'Anti Defamation League,' 'Jews against Breast Cancer,' or even 'Jewish Voice for Peace' but the Warsaw Jewish Mutual Aid Society wasn't innocent at all. It forced thousands of women and girls to become sex slaves and destroyed their lives.

On May 7, 1906, the Jewish syndicate had to change its title after the Polish ambassador to Argentina filed an official complaint to the Argentine authorities regarding the use of the name 'Warsaw.' Clearly, the Polish government did not want to be associated with a Jewish crime syndicate. In that line, it would be appropriate to ask how long is it going to take before the American government and its politicians insist that AIPAC drop its first 'A' or before The Neocon Project of the New American Century are ordered to drop American from their title.

"Zwi Migdal means 'strong power' in Yiddish and it also honoured Zvi Migdal, known as Luis Migdal, one of the founders of the crime organization."

The Zwi Migdal organization operated from the 1860s to 1939. In its heyday, after the First World War, it had four hundred members in Argentina alone. Its annual turnover was fifty million dollars in the early 1900s.

Unlike Epstein and Maxwell who allegedly recruited non-Jewish underage women, the Zwi Migdal specialised in trafficking Jewish women. "Most of the Jewish women and children who were kidnapped were taken from impoverished shtetls (Jewish small towns) and brought to Buenos Aires."

The recently released documents related to the Jeffrey Epstein affair suggest that Epstein and Maxwell were to be charged with child sex trafficking, and as the alleged procurer of underage girls. It seems none of that is really novel in the Jewish world: "The Zwi Migdal Society lured decent girls and young women from Europe in many inventive and deceitful ways. A very well-mannered and elegant-looking man would appear in a poor Jewish village in places such as Poland or Russia. He would advertise his search for young women to work in the homes of wealthy Jews in Argentina by posting an ad in the local synagogue. Fearful of pogroms and often in desperate economic circumstances, the trusting parents would send their naïve daughters away with these men, hoping to give them a fresh start."

The last line recalls Virginia Giuffre's account of her encounter with the elegant British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell who allegedly lured her victims to 'escape' their misery.

The JCACA continues "The girls, aged mostly 13 to 16, packed a small bag, bade their families farewell and boarded ships to Argentina, believing that they were on their way toward a better future. However, they soon learned the bitter truth. Their period of training as sex slaves, which began on the ship, was cruel and brutal. The young virgins were "broken in" ~ raped, beaten, starved and locked in cages."

The Zwi Migdal Organization reached its peak in the 1920s when some 430 rufianos, or pimps, controlled 2,000 brothels trafficking around 30.000 Jewish women and girls in Argentina alone. "The largest brothels of Buenos Aires housed 60 to 80 female sex slaves. There were brothels all over Argentina, but most of them were in the big city, in the Jewish quarter, on Junin Street."

Apparently "Prostitutes who failed to satisfy their clients were beaten, fined, or taken to work in provincial houses. Every business transaction was logged. The rufianos 'held a meat market' where newly arrived girls were paraded naked in front of traders in places such as Hotel Palestina or Cafe Parisienne."

One may wonder how all of that fit with Judaic tradition and Talmudic law. "In one brothel," the ACACA reports, "the Madam, an observant Jewish woman, would not let her women work on Fridays but instructed them herself in the art of lovemaking."

Many commentators on the Epstein affair are amazed by the incapacity of America's law enforcement, legal system and federal agencies to bring justice to Epstein's victims and its failure to lock him away. Once again, that is not new. The JCACA writes of the Zwi Migdal criminality: "These activities went on undisturbed because they were frequented by government officials, judges, and reporters. City officials, politicians, and police officers were paid off. The pimps had powerful connections everywhere."

The Jewish community didn't rush to save their abused daughters. "The prostitutes, who were mostly illiterate, destitute and despised by the mainstream Jewish community, banded together to form their own mutual-aid societies." However, rarely, some Jewish ethnic activists stood for the abused women and girls. "One night Nahum Sorkin, a well-known Zionist activist, stood outside the theatre and physically stopped the rufianos (Jewish pimps) from entering. Next, they were banned from the synagogues, and to top it all, they were refused burial in the Jewish cemetery."

From Rachel (Raquel) Lieberman to Virginia Roberts Giuffre

We learn that the rufianos' audacity eventually led to their demise. "It happened when they refused to forgo their income from the work of one woman, Rachel Lieberman from Lódž, Poland. She, like so many others, was tempted to travel to Buenos Aires answering a matrimonial ad, but was taken to Jonin Street where she was forced to prostitute."

"After five years she had enough money to go into the antique furniture business to support herself and her sons but the rufianos made it impossible for her. They did not want her to set an example for their other slaves. But this woman had not been broken."

As was the case for Virginia Giuffre, it needed brave Rachel to come forward.

https://vimeo.com/124652938 In desperation, Rachel Lieberman "contacted Superintendent Julio Elsogray. She had heard his name mentioned on the street as one who would not take Zwi Migdal's money and was actually looking for ways to destroy the organization. She slipped into his office one day and gave a detailed account of the connections among the various pimps in the organization management.

Her testimony led to an extensive investigation. The findings reached Dr. Rodriguez Ocampo, a judge who would not take Zwi Migdal bribes either.

The lengthy trial ended in September 1930, with 108 detainees. "The very existence of the Zwi Migdal Organization directly threatens our society," the judge wrote in his verdict, handing down long prison terms."

As with Epstein and his mobsters friends, things changed quickly and not in favour of justice let alone guided by ethical principles. The Zwi Migdal mobsters were at least as well connected as Epstein to politicians, judges and prosecutors. "While in prison, the pimps pulled some old strings, appealed their sentences in January 1931, and senior Justice Ministry officials left only three of the convicts in jail, discharging the rest."

As was the case with The Miami Herald's Julie Brown and many of us in the alternative media who didn't allow the rotten. Epstein and his pedophile ring's crimes to be shoved under the carpet, the 1930s Argentinian media didn't agree to turn a blind eye to the Jewish syndicate's impunity.

When the media reported the release of the Zwi Migdal's mobsters from jail, "the public was very upset and pressured the authorities to reverse the discharge decision. Thereafter, hundreds of pimps were deported to Uruguay. "Over the years, they slowly returned one by one, but the era of the huge brothels ended."

The JCACA sums up the Zwi Migdal saga by stating that the Jewish crime syndicate was "an organization that traded in women while its members wore tefillin (a Jewish religious garment) and built themselves a synagogue." I guess the same can be said about Epstein's ring. They may not be religious, they may not wear Tefillin but they are self identified Jewish Zionists who donate to Israel and vocally support Israel's criminal politics.

The JCACA proclaims that the Zwi Migdal's "history is an embarrassment to all decent Jews. It involved loads of money, corrupt politicians, violent sex, international women trade, hard brutality, rape, and cheating, all lightly spiced with yiddishkeit and God-fearing traditions. Among those traditions, according to Jewish beliefs as expressed in the Torah, is that it is perfectly fine to keep slaves so long as they are not Jewish. Yet these Zwi Migdal also enslaved Jewish girls and a great many who ran the bordellos were Jewish women."

I find myself admitting that except for Benjamin Netanyahu who denounced Ehud Barak for his ties with Epstein for political opportunist reasons, I have yet to see a single Jewish organisation express any embarrassment in regard to Epstein and his sex trafficking operation.

On the contrary, Epstein's lawyer, Alan Dershowitz, announced that he is actually a victim of the #metoo movement . He also occasionally insists that Jews should never apologise for using their strength. Maxwell has kept quiet.

Wexner has yet to apologise. Like Dershowitz, he adopted the victim path announcing that Epstein 'misappropriated' a few shekels from his family and he regret being associated with the sex trafficker. JVP that cares so much for Palestinians must be slightly less bothered by Guiffre's plight.

I am left wondering, is it the fact that Zwi Migdal abused Jewish women and girls that provoked Jewish discomfiture? I guess that, at least for the time being, it seems as if Jews do not posses the cultural or psychological means to look refectively into Epstein and his ring. The only question left open is whether the FBI has the cojones to do its job.

Gilad Atzmon, now living in London, was born in Israel and served in the Israeli military. He is the author of The Wandering Who and one of the most accomplished jazz saxophonists in Europe. He can be reached at: [email protected] . Read other articles by Gilad , or visit Gilad's website .

[Aug 26, 2019] It's A Scandal! - England's Homeless Children Problem

216K children on the streets is a fule for all king of secual crimes against children.
Aug 26, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

You will find more infographics at Statista

Statista's Martin Armstrong notes that the report, 'Bleak Houses' also found that the temporary accommodation of families and children is often not fit for human habitation with shipping containers, office blocks and B&Bs being re-purposed to house them.

Commenting on the findings, Children's Commissioner Anne Longfield said:

"It is a scandal that a country as prosperous as ours is leaving tens of thousands of families in temporary accommodation for long periods of time , or to sofa surf."

On the reasons for the current situation, Polly Neate, chief executive of charity Shelter blamed "a cocktail of punitive welfare policies, a woeful lack of social homes and wildly expensive private rents mean this is frighteningly commonplace."


vienna_proxy , 32 minutes ago link

over 200,000 homeless Children yet the UK somehow has plenty of money to give the ****** and muzzie invaders free everything. then these niggers and muzzies and elites rape the homeless children. this is going on everywhere in the west. the west is evil and its soul is black as night

novictim , 1 hour ago link

Ok, smart guys. How can you supply native British children for rape and grooming by Muslims if you don't create a system that destroys the families first? Huh?! You CAN"T!

The system of laws and benefits is perfect and is doing exactly what was intended. Here, have some fentanyl.

numapepi , 1 hour ago link

Britain... throwing children onto the streets so able bodied 20 something male refugees can take those beds.

So Progressive!!!!!!!

numapepi , 1 hour ago link

The refugee theme song...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq_lhlIn1e0

Retired Guy , 1 hour ago link

That youtube was funny.

novictim , 57 minutes ago link

It would be funny if it were not 100% true.

wonder warthog , 30 minutes ago link

Ray Stevens has a couple of good ones too . . . right click and open in new window.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgOHOHKBEqE (Come to the USA)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aV8L9kX4xg (Juanita and the kids)

Retired Guy , 1 hour ago link

Are these native children or immigrant? Are these young children or immigrant 20 somethings who lied to get in? Is this a sign that there are more than enough people and you don't need immigrants?

Isn't wildly high rent a function of low interest rates pushing up real estate prices?

Does welfare attract poor immigrants?

phillyla , 1 hour ago link

What is the legal definition of a child for this report?

Technically everyone is a child. I have an adult 'child' as in I am his mother. Still I am my parents child. And we are all God's children.

In America we define children as people under 18; what age does the UK stop calling them 'children'?

I've spend weeks arguing with perverts on this board that girls at 16 or 17 are still children while being told in Europe where they are more progressive 14 is the age of consent. Does that mean a 14 year old is an adult?

[Aug 26, 2019] US and Israeli spy agency activities in the United States are by no means limited to sex trafficking and compromising politicians

Some links and pictures deleted...
Notable quotes:
"... “According to Nigel Rosser, a British journalist who wrote in the Evening Standard in 2001, Epstein apparently for much of the 1990s claimed that he used to work for the CIA.” ..."
"... The Times of Israel reported that Epstein was an “active business partner with former prime minister Ehud Barak” until 2015, adding: “Barak formed a limited partnership company in Israel in 2015, called Sum (E.B.) to invest in a high-tech startup…. A large part of the money used by Sum to buy the start-up stock was supplied by Epstein.” Webb wrote he “was a long-time friend of Barak, who has long-standing and deep ties to Israel’s intelligence community.” On the board of their company sat Pinchas Bukhris, a former commander of the IDF cyber unit 8200 ..."
Aug 26, 2019 | consortiumnews.com

The protection of sex traffickers by intelligence agencies is especially interesting in the wake of Epstein’s death. Like others, Epstein had long been purported to have links with spy agencies. Such allegations documented by Whitney Webb in her multi-part series were recently published in Mintpress News.

Webb states that Epstein was the current face of an extensive system of abuse with ties to both organized crime and intelligence interests. She told CNLive!that: “According to Nigel Rosser, a British journalist who wrote in the Evening Standard in 2001, Epstein apparently for much of the 1990s claimed that he used to work for the CIA.”

Vicky Ward,, who wrote on Epstein for Vanity Fair before his first arrest, and claimed the magazine killed one of her pieces after Epstein intervened with editor Graydon Carter, said in a Tweet that one of Epstein’s clients was Adnan Khashoggi, an arms dealer who was pivotal in the Iran Contra scandal and was on the Mossad (the Israeli intelligence agency) payroll. This was also noted in a book “By Way of Deception” by former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky.

The Times of Israel reported that Epstein was an “active business partner with former prime minister Ehud Barak” until 2015, adding: “Barak formed a limited partnership company in Israel in 2015, called Sum (E.B.) to invest in a high-tech startup…. A large part of the money used by Sum to buy the start-up stock was supplied by Epstein.” Webb wrote he “was a long-time friend of Barak, who has long-standing and deep ties to Israel’s intelligence community.” On the board of their company sat Pinchas Bukhris, a former commander of the IDF cyber unit 8200.

Epstein’s allegedly protected status was revealed by Alexander Acosta, the former U.S. attorney in Miami who gave Epstein an infamously lenient plea deal in 2007. Acosta, who was forced to resign as President Donald Trump’s labor secretary because of that deal, reportedly said of the case: “I was told Epstein ‘belonged to intelligence’ and to leave it alone.”


Abe , August 25, 2019 at 22:09

US and Israeli spy agency activities in the United States are by no means limited to sex trafficking.

Details about CIA and NSA surveillance activities conducted in the United States were revealed in the disclosure by Edward Snowden in June 2013.

A top-secret document provided by Snowden also revealed that the SIGINT National Unit of Israel routinely receives raw intelligence data (including those of U.S. citizens) from the NSA.

An agreement between the NSA and its Israeli counterpart places no legally binding limits on the use of the data by the Israelis.

Billions of dollars per year are spent by US government agencies to purchase software systems, including intelligence programs developed by private companies with direct links to Israeli intelligence agencies such as cyber warfare Unit 8200, which is subordinate to the Israel Military Intelligence directorate.

In addition to enormous security risks embedded in US government tech platforms, commercial systems and software produced by Israeli companies linked to Israeli intelligence put US citizens at significant risk.

The political implications of these government and consumer tech security vulnerabilities are staggering.

The fact that Israeli intelligence agencies have been given the means to spy on American citizens is of major concern. Surveillance of US citizens by Israel, and the potential for political blackmail of US government officials by Israel, should prompt immediate investigation.

In addition, many pro-Israel Lobby organizations trying to influence US politics have direct links to Israeli government ministries, military, and intelligence agencies.

In 2016, Al Jareeza installed an undercover journalist inside several Washington–based pro-Israel Lobby propaganda organizations, including the Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD), Stand With Us, the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, the Israel on Campus Coalition, the Zionist Organization of America's (ZOA) Fuel For Truth, and The Israel Project (TIP).

https://www.youtube.com/user/electronicIntifada

The Al Jareeza documentary series, "The Lobby – USA" exposed a covert war waged by the pro-Israel Lobby in America. News of the controversial documentary in October 2017 prompted efforts to censor its broadcast.

In February 2018, it was reported that Qatari leaders had reassured the leaders of Jewish American organisations that Al Jazeera would not be airing the documentary series on the Israel lobby in the United States.

According to Haaretz, the Qatari government had reportedly hired Republican Senator Ted Cruz's former aide Nicolas Muzin to open communications channels with Jewish American organisations. Earlier, the network had sent letters to several American pro-Israel organisations informing them that their employees would appear in the documentary. These letters generated speculation that the Qatari government had reneged on its earlier promise to block Al Jazeera from screening the controversial documentary which, like the earlier British series, had utilized clandestine footage and recordings of pro-Israel Lobby propaganda activities.

In March 2018, a group of US lawmakers including Democratic Congressman Josh Gottheimer, Republican Congressman Lee Zeldin, and Ted Cruz penned a letter urging United States Attorney General Jeff Sessions to investigate whether Al Jazeera should register as a foreign agent under the Foreign Agents Registration Act. They also urged the Justice Department to investigate reports that the network had infiltrated non-profit organisations and accused Al Jazeera of broadcasting "antisemitic", "anti-Israel", and "anti-American" content.

In April 2018, the Zionist Organization of America's president Morton Klein claimed credit for lobbying the Qatari government not to screen Al Jazeera's documentary series focusing on American pro-Israel Lobby.

In late August and early September 2018, leaked portions of the documentary series were aired by several outlets including The Electronic Intifada. In early November, The Electronic Intifada released the four episodes of "The Lobby – USA".

Larry Shea , August 25, 2019 at 12:17

Adnan Khashoggi was not only an arms dealer, he was also a money launderer and a cocaine kingpin who worked with and for the CIA. Please, see the article: "The Jeffrey Epstein Social Network & the Container Ship Crime Wave." This excellent article can be found online at Daniel Hopsicker's Madcow Productions. So, let's see; Donald Barr was former OSS, William Barr (aka Robert Johnson) was CIA, Adnan Khashoggi was an asset of the CIA, and Jeffrey Epstein Epstein claimed that he worked for the CIA in the 90's. Please, also see, "Creating a Crime: How the CIA Commandeered the DEA." This article, which was written by Douglas Valentine for Counterpunch (counterpunch.org), was published on September 11, 2015. Dennis Dayle, who was the former chief of an elite DEA enforcement unit made the following statement for the record: "In my thirty-year history in the Drug Enforcement Agency and related agencies, the major targets of my investigations almost invariably turned out to be working for the CIA." The quote is from "Causes and Cures National Campaign on the Narcotics Epidemic: Final Report, (Washington, D.C., 1991) 9.

JOHN CHUCKMAN , August 25, 2019 at 10:30

Epstein's private island was wired for video, literally everywhere, so that couples could not take off somewhere for a private get-together. If that doesn't sound like an intelligence service's elaborate "honey trap," I don't know what does.

Hard to see why Epstein and Company would record literally everyone, unless they were creating compromising material for potential blackmail or political pressure. Who would be interested in videos of a number homely, older men making love to young women, other than a blackmailer or a spy agency? But we have no evidence or even suggestion of blackmail. Many of Epstein's big-shot friends remained his friends for many years, returning for visits again and again.

But there are suggestions, in the way his case was handled by prosecutors for his conviction in 2008 and the highly unorthodox sentencing he received, of some kind of powerful outside influence at work. There's just no question about that. And, of course, his sentence allowed a complete return to the same arrangements he had had in New York to just continue on a private island, perhaps only adding a certain new sense of exotic adventure for visitors.

polistra , August 25, 2019 at 08:01

It's really automatic. Spy agencies recruit using blackmail, so their recruited members are going to have unfashionable and illegal habits. Spy agencies know a lot of secrets, so they have the material to engage in blackmail against leaders who try to subdue the agency. Vicious circle.

CitizenOne , August 24, 2019 at 23:03

Well researched article on one of the key tactics that intelligence uses to blackmail their targets they want to neutralize or hold a sword over their heads. Not only that but it does not nor does it always involve children. Adults that are tools for anyone trying to gain control over another person often use seduction and illicit sex as blackmail when the target is confronted with evidence that the relationship is known about and that the details of it if revealed would tarnish and perhaps severely damage the reputation of the targeted individual. It is a tool used by not just intelligence agencies but also the mob and any underhanded organization that hits below the belt.

That was the strategy of the FBI and its attempts to control MLK. They wiretapped his telephone, bugged his hotel rooms and eventually got a sex tape. When nobody in the press would publish it without sources that the FBI was unwilling to disclose they mailed the tape with a suicide note to MLK saying he would be destroyed by the tape and rather than facing his impending character assassination he should consider suicide to preserve his honor and legacy.

The FBI told MLK to kill himself.

On April 3 1968 MLK delivered his last speech. Part of that speech was an open recognition of the ruthless forces that tried to convince him he should kill himself rather than be shamed by sexual indiscretions. In the speech he said the following, "Well, I don't know what will happen now. We've got some difficult days ahead. But it really doesn't matter with me now, because I've been to the mountaintop. And I don't mind. Like anybody, I would like to live – a long life; longevity has its place. But I'm not concerned about that now. I just want to do God's will. And He's allowed me to go up to the mountain. And I've looked over. And I've seen the Promised Land. I may not get there with you. But I want you to know tonight, that we, as a people, will get to the Promised Land. So I'm happy, tonight. I'm not worried about anything. I'm not fearing any man. Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord"

The next day April 4th he was assassinated. The rest of the history of that crime is also mired in controversy. James Earl Ray was arrested and convicted but tried many times from jail to change his plea to innocent. His requests for a trial were never granted and he died in prison. The King family believes that MLKs death was at the hands of the government to this day.

Is it not feasible that the FBI upon failing to convince MLK to commit suicide would take matters into their own hands?

The whole unraveling of events begins with information obtained by wiretapping and bugging that King had committed illicit sex acts. The attempts to derail King and end his career or in the end his life stemmed from the initial dirt the FBI had on him about sex.

Initially Hoover approached Bobby Kennedy with his demands that Bobby Kennedy should authorize the wiretapping and bugging of King, which as Attorney General, Bobby Kennedy could do. He initially refused Hoover's demands until Hoover produced evidence of JFK's sexual improprieties and threatened to go public with the information in his possession. Upon examining the evidence and fearing the damage it could do to the presidency, he changed his mind and begrudgingly authorized the FBI to use whatever spy technology they had to eavesdrop on every private conversation MLK had.

MLK was assassinated April 4th 1968 and Bobby Kennedy was assassinated June 8th 1968 two months later. Mopping up operations for those who knew too much.

The point is that sex has been used as a tool by the powerful since the beginning of time as a way to completely control individuals over allegations of sexual impropriety. It is one of the most powerful means to control others and to get them to bend to ones will as are many blackmail situations.

Given what we know of history, there is motive and opportunity for those who would like to see a compromised and vulnerable Jeffery Epstein's voice silenced as he was one who knew too much about the methods used by powerful people in high places to exercise control over others.

That is why his activities were allowed for so many years and also why he is now dead.

Gregory Herr , August 25, 2019 at 01:03

I recommend William Pepper's research on the MLK assassination.

Also illuminating:
https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/Unspeakable/MLKconExp.html

One of MLK's finest hours was a speech he gave exactly a year prior to his assassination. Margaret Kimberley and Joanne Leon discuss:
http://aroundtheempire.com/2019/01/31/ep88-beyond-vietnam-feat-margaret-kimberley-2/

Sally Mitcheell , August 24, 2019 at 19:49

Monsters in suits they are the chosen ones and they can make their fantasies into reality that allow abuse to happen on any unfortunate child they want their sickness to choose. .We certainly do have a problem with mental illness in the world This is what the sick in power have become and the rest of us are too busy struggling for survival to want to know or believe or care. The disinterest is heartbreaking.we must mass socially to help human nature turn this behaviour around. Thank you for making me to never forget

Spike , August 24, 2019 at 18:16

This is an astonishing piece. If true, that actual pedophilia -- the sexual molestation of children who have not yet reached puberty -- is so common that it involves stunning numbers of people in high positions, then the world is an even worse place than I thought it was.

But what has mostly been going through my mind these past few weeks is how taboos on behaviors that really should not be so taboo have been used over the decades to extort, blackmail and hold in check powerful figures. J. Edgar Hoover's famous files that presumably noted adultery and homosexuality were used to hold and increase Hoover's power, and yet he couldn't touch the Mafia because they had evidence of Hoover's own homosexual activity. So the cost to society has been considerable.

It is not accurate to describe Epstein as a pedophile. Those girls were teenagers, reproductively viable young adults. Need I say that when the entire history of the human race is considered, most people were born to adolescents, because the luxury did not yet exist of living beyond the age of 20 or 30, so if one wanted to procreate, one had to do it early. Civilization has brought with it an extended period of preparation for adulthood, but that has not changed human physiology or delayed the onset of sexual behavior. It has only been since the 1980s that this fierce taboo against sex with teenagers has been a part of cultural hysteria.

I, along with everyone else in the general public, have only the vaguest knowledge of what transpired within the residences of Jeffrey Epstein. But it sounds like these girls were paid generously for their services and they kept coming back week after week. I think I read that one girl said she had been raped by Epstein twenty times. Did she not, after the first 'rape', go home to her parents, where she was presumably housed, fed, and clothed, where she did not tell her parents what happened, and then the next week returned to chez Epstein a second time, and then a third, and so forth? If that was the case, then every episode after the first was not a rape, which means that the first episode was not a rape also.

Every sanctimonious hypocrite who refers to the infamous Epstein parties as 'sex trafficking' 'pedophilia' should admit that, barring the need for discipline to avoid cheating on one's wife or to protect an elite reputation, they would have been happy to be given a consenting teenage girl as a party favor.

The point being made is that were there not this regressive cultural hysteria against teen sex then this whole mess, with it's likely extortions, would not have happened. There is a price society pays for this, and it's quite a bit more than just the death of one unscrupulous billionaire.

Alan Ross , August 25, 2019 at 09:23

" should admit that, barring the need for discipline to avoid cheating on one's wife or to protect an elite reputation, they would have been happy to be given a consenting teenage girl as a party favor."

I think many men would have reservations about having sex with 13 year old girls. Just because, at an earlier time in civilization it might have been necessary to procreate by having sex with very young women does not justify it now. Does the reservation have to do with the fact that 13 year-olds do not have fully developed personalities? Our criminal justice systems are beginning to recognize that young men and women under 18 are not really adults.

ML , August 25, 2019 at 12:07

Thank you, Alan Ross. I have made similar comments several times in the reply sections of these articles. Thearche begins before menarche, often a couple years or more before menarche. It can begin at 8, 9, or 10. That is puberty- therache followed by menarche. Children's bodies are not completely matured enough at the young end of the teen years to have sex. And of course, their minds, their judgement, their ability to see through deceit is extremely compromised at young ages. That's why teens are generally so dangerous behind the wheel of a car- lack of good judgment. The brain is still developing. When you add in the poverty some of these kids experienced and the promises of money, clothing, food, you get exploitation which people like "Spike" don't seem to see. Any person who thinks like he does isn't safe around children- be they 7 or 17.

Taras77 , August 24, 2019 at 14:16

This is an excellent article.

The author mentions Whitney Webb and her excellent series on Mint Press; here is the last of a four part serious:

https://www.mintpressnews.com/genesis-jeffrey-epstein-bill-clinton-relationship/261455/sl

Very long but well worth the read; as is well known, Bill clinton (slick) is up to his eyeballs in mena drug traffic, etc.
Also, to state the obvious, current AG Barr does not come off as a leading charger on a white horse for justice and accountability during his previous stint as AG under bush I. Could cause some to link to reasons for long delay of doj in releasing fbi,doj files, now over 90 days since trump gave the go ahead to release.

Amanda , August 24, 2019 at 12:38

Excellent article. Yes, this seems to be standard operating procedure and how our politicians are controlled behind the scenes.

Dave McGowan referred to this as the "Pedophocracy" in his book Programmed to Kill here: https://www.docdroid.net/riM594s/david-mcgowan-programmed-to-kill.pdf and here: http://www.whale.to/b/pedophocracy.html He also gets into the Dutroux case in Belguim, which you wrote about here: https://consortiumnews.com/2019/07/11/the-revelations-of-wikileaks-no-4-the-haunting-case-of-a-belgian-child-killer-and-how-wikileaks-helped-crack-it/

michael , August 24, 2019 at 08:27

The naive days of Joe McCarthy and the Lavender Scare are long over. Homosexuality and marital affairs no longer serve as effective blackmail materials, replaced by the leverage of filmed pedophilia, and torture and killing of sex objects.
Whitney Webb's coverage both historical through Epstein shows what America, or at least, its Intelligence Agencies have become, closely invested in the Mafia and Israel, as well as our financiers and politicians. Her last in her Epstein coverage: https://www.mintpressnews.com/genesis-jeffrey-epstein-bill-clinton-relationship/261455/

Zhu , August 24, 2019 at 03:25

A lot of "alleged" and "it is possible" here.

bardamu , August 23, 2019 at 23:29

Fine article.

Given that "intelligence" agencies with no functional oversight and regularly involved in black ops use these things, and that a fresh use surfaces every few years, it seems parsimonious to conclude that they are a regular part of some subsection of intelligence community and, by extension, government operation. It makes little sense that this sort of of business is forever starting and stopping: that would be difficult to do.

Given that neither of the two major US parties have shown any interest in pursuing such connections, it seems clear that neither see any political advantage in pursuing it. A parsimonious conclusion is that at least some powerful members of media and both parties are involved, and that the connections are enough of an open secret that people know not to pursue it.

By extension, do we avoid the conclusion that this is in some way a mafia-run government?

Arby , August 24, 2019 at 19:45

Well, Criminal is criminal. No organization can match the war-making State for criminality. As long as that's clear, make any comparison you like. The war-making State is a terror organization and, as such, it's not going to shock us when we find it involved in widespread abuse of children or anything criminal. War, then, isn't alone the health of the State (Randolph Bourne.) Any darkness you may wish to think of will be found committed by the State and its worshippers. This is the thought behind the expression that aggression of one State toward another (par for the course with the United States) is the supreme crime, including within that crime all others.

Edward Herman's thoughts about terrorism:

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The really massive and significant growth of terrorism since World War II has been that carried out by states Contrary to [Claire] Sterling's foolish remark about the "colossal" armaments of retail terrorists, state military resources are vastly larger State terrorism is also much more important than non-state violence because it is rooted in relatively permanent structures that allow terror to be institutionalized ." -pg 83 of "The Real Terror Network" by Edward Herman
= ===

Substitute "child abuse" for "terrorism" in the above quote and you'll find that it works. Is the 'institutionalization' of child abuse not what we are seeing here?

John Wright , August 25, 2019 at 16:43

The Deep State is simply an international mafia of smaller mafias, the center of which is the international banking cabal. While their various alliances may shift over time, their primary interest, to remain in power, stays the same.

The vast global Ponzi scam that is international banking has swelled to its bursting point and the current chapter of that fraud needs to be closed and restarted. Much of what we are now seeing are the end games of the various mafias scrambling for the best positions as this round of the game comes to a close.

Of course, none of this would be possible without the consent of the mostly ignorant masses.

Most people just don't want to know.

Larry Shea , August 23, 2019 at 18:21

Yup, Check out former Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, Dennis Hastert. See the video clip on NewsBud, "The Hastert Scandal: What the Media Isn't Telling You." The title of the piece is, The People's Campaign: The Real Hastert Case All in One Place. The above-mentioned video clip can be accessed within this article. More elite deviance!

Amanda , August 24, 2019 at 12:54

Larry Shea-

Yes, Sibel Edmonds has spoken about the FBI having blackmail information on Denny Hastert being a pedophile. No doubt, this is why he was given the position of Speaker of the House, since he was completely controlled. Sibel Edmonds has also spoken about Jan Shakowsky getting caught in some kind of lesbian honey trap by either Turkish or Israeli intelligence https://www.newsbud.com/2010/10/19/%e2%80%98kosher%e2%80%99-schakowsky-still-aipac%e2%80%99s-number-one-darling/ More on Shakowsky and her husband and Hastert is here: https://www.newsbud.com/2017/02/17/newsbud-special-report-state-secrets-sibel-edmonds-uncovers-the-untouchables/

I've also heard Cynthia McKinney reference blackmail files.

[Aug 26, 2019] On the board of their company sat Pinchas Bukhris, a former commander of the IDF cyber unit 8200.

Aug 26, 2019 | consortiumnews.com

The Times of Israel reported that Epstein was an "active business partner with former prime minister Ehud Barak" until 2015, adding: "Barak formed a limited partnership company in Israel in 2015, called Sum (E.B.) to invest in a high-tech startup . A large part of the money used by Sum to buy the start-up stock was supplied by Epstein."

Webb wrote he "was a long-time friend of Barak, who has long-standing and deep ties to Israel's intelligence community." On the board of their company sat Pinchas Bukhris, a former commander of the IDF cyber unit 8200.

Epstein's allegedly protected status was revealed by Alexander Acosta, the former U.S. attorney in Miami who gave Epstein an infamously lenient plea deal in 2007. Acosta, who was forced to resign as President Donald Trump's labor secretary because of that deal, reportedly said of the case: "I was told Epstein 'belonged to intelligence' and to leave it alone."

[Aug 25, 2019] Supposed talk between Bill Clinton and Netanyahu

Aug 25, 2019 | www.unz.com

Sean O'Farrell , says: August 24, 2019 at 6:56 am GMT

Netanyahu: "Bill, can I have a word with you?"

Clinton: "Sure, Bibi, what's up?"

Netanyahu: "Listen, I've got a bit of bad news. A tape recording has recently surfaced of you and Monica having phone sex. The good news is that one of my most trusted lieutenants has tracked it down. He assures me that he has the original tape and that there are no known copies. No one else knows about the tape but my lieutenant and me. Of course, I ordered him to destroy the tape and to never speak of it again. It will be like it never even happened. All that remains is our friendship."

Clinton: "Thank you, Bibi. Your friendship means the world to me."

Netanyahu: "I know, Bill. I feel the same way about you."

[Aug 25, 2019] Is Virginia Giuffre exaggerating things to get more money

Notable quotes:
"... Now she has set her sights on many millions and has a top notch team of lawyers behind her. ..."
"... The tens of millions in compensation that were paid out by Epstein to the schoolgirls in restitution has to be taken into account when considering if they got justice, or the system failed them in 2007. ..."
Aug 25, 2019 | www.unz.com

Sean , says: August 24, 2019 at 8:49 pm GMT

@Jeff Stryker Epstein was never married to Maxwell although she desperately wanted him to make her his wife (she could not have been forced to give evidence against him if she had been his wife of course)...

Incidentally, Laing was 17 years old when she started in the business. Virginia Roberts/ Giuffre started working for Epstein at 17 and Tony Figueroa is described by court documents as Epstein's former bodyguard who was dating Virginia Roberts/ Giuffre when she was employed by Epstein, and being handsomely paid.

Now she has set her sights on many millions and has a top notch team of lawyers behind her. Do not mix her and her lurid blackmail of prime ministers and presidents yarns (in which she is the breathtakingly sexy centre of international Jet Set attention that no man can resist of course) up with the thirty odd early teens from from Palm Beach High School that Epstein's legal troubles stemmed from, none of who said they had sexual contact with anyone but Epstein or saw anyone else there.

The tens of millions in compensation that were paid out by Epstein to the schoolgirls in restitution has to be taken into account when considering if they got justice, or the system failed them in 2007.

If he had beat the case, which Michael Jackson had just done with something not too different, the girls would have got nothing. That would have been failing them totally I think.

[Aug 25, 2019] Treatment of Maxwell makes sence only if we assume that she was an informant

Aug 25, 2019 | www.unz.com

Mark James , says: August 24, 2019 at 6:52 pm GMT

It's likely G-Max spent the spring in Manchester BTS, Ma. She left and where she is this summer isn't public (yet). It does make sense in some minds that she is an informant.

And for that reason, private but not on the run from law enforcement.

After Epstein's death you would have thought that she would have moved to the top of the list of people to be charged with related crimes to JE? If she has it's been very quiet.

[Aug 25, 2019] Ghislaine Maxwell father possible connections with intelligence services

Aug 25, 2019 | www.unz.com

Tony Ryals , says: August 24, 2019 at 8:31 pm GMT

MAXWELL, MOSSAD and the JEWISH MAFIA

http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2019/08/maxwell-mossad-and-jewish-mafia.html

[Aug 25, 2019] Don't forget that Maxwell's publishing empire started by getting publishing rights to much of Germany's scientific papers.

Aug 25, 2019 | www.unz.com

Alfred , says: August 24, 2019 at 12:19 pm GMT

@Tony Ryals Don't forget that Maxwell's publishing empire started by getting publishing rights to much of Germany's scientific papers.

As a British intelligence officer in Occupied Germany, he was in an excellent position to blackmail or threaten any number of people in order to get his way. Shooting people himself is not the easiest way of doing things. There are better ways in a country where people are starving.

What is the way that media king Robert Maxwell created a science publishing system that squeezes huge wealth from "science"?

[Aug 25, 2019] Jeffrey Epstein 'Friend' Ghislaine Maxwell Has More Skeletons in Her Family Closet Than a House of Horrors

Aug 25, 2019 | www.unz.com

Tony Ryals says: August 25, 2019 at 12:06 am GMT 600 Words

... ... ...


But about Ghislaine's brother-in-law. Where's the body ? What tragi-comedy.

Jeffrey Epstein 'Friend' Ghislaine Maxwell Has More Skeletons in Her Family Closet Than a House of Horrors

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-friend-ghislaine-maxwell-has-more-skeletons-in-her-family-closet-than-a-house-of-horrors

Curiously, Isabel followed in the family tradition of filing for bankruptcy in December 2015 despite having been a multi-millionaire. That move may have been related to the untimely demise at age 56 of her third husband, the infamous con man Al Seckel who, she later found out, was not legally her husband since he was still married to his first wife. In 2015, when he reportedly died, he was potentially on the hook for millions

Seckel befriended and bewitched the Nobel Prize-winning physicists Richard Feynman and Murray Gell-Mann among other neuroscientists, as well as academics and even magicians like James Randi.

Seckel then used those contacts to sell rare books to prestigious customers who were often hoodwinked out of thousands in bad deals. He moved on to co-opt the burgeoning field of optical illusion, popularizing the art of manipulating images by using research from others in books he wrote.

(His daughter, Elizabeth Seckel, has built on her father's work in optical illusion by pioneering something called "mirror box therapy." Seckel brought her method, sponsored by the Clinton Global Initiative, to Haiti after the earthquake in 2012 to help recent amputees with their phantom limb pain.)

In 2010, Seckel hosted a scientific conference on Jeffrey Epstein's infamous private island with Gell-Mann, Leonard Mlodinow, who was Stephen Hawking's co-author, and MIT's Gerald Sussman.

Oppenheimer told The Daily Beast this week that there was "no evidence" that Seckel or any of the scientists at the island party were involved in any sexual activity with young girls.

In 2004 Seckel gave a TED talk that's been viewed almost 2.5 million times about "perceptual illusions that fool our brains."

Because of Seckel's shady past, it was not surprising that vague reports of his death -- a perceptual illusion perhaps? -- began popping up just weeks after Oppenheimer's July 2015 story exposed him to hordes of creditors.

A paid obituary was published on Legacy.com, supposedly after appearing in the San Gabriel Valley Tribune, but it does not appear on the paper's website. One report has circulated around various Seckel-obsessed corners of the internet that his body was found at the bottom of a cliff near the home in France where he had moved with Isabel.

But The Daily Beast could not locate any officials in the town where Seckel was last known to live who had any report of his death. Oppenheimer and others said they have not yet found proof, either. The Daily Beast was unable to reach Isabel Maxwell or Elizabeth Secker for comment.

[Aug 25, 2019] Can you really take Wexner's excuses at face value?

Wexner, owner of Bath and Body Works, Victorias Secret and The Limited, heads a group of politically active Jewish billionaires intent on solving Israel's issues with American military lives.
Aug 25, 2019 | www.unz.com

Issar , says: August 25, 2019 at 2:04 am GMT

@Sean Good questions. Answer: Chutzpah? Alternate answer: Dersh didn't find it radioactive when he went down to Palm Springs and started digging up dirt on Epstein's accusers. At what point would he find it radioactive?

After all, Jeff and Jizzaline were on a free pass for the next 15 years scooting about on a magic carpet– ie.– they were accepted. Also, the recent Labor Secretary openly stated he, as a prosecutor, was told to leave it alone– 'Epstein belonged to intelligence.' What's not to like?

The only real surprise was the recent indictment. Why now? (needs research) NOW Dersh finds it radioactive.

Comment on Wexner– Can you really take Wexner's excuses at face value? We recently found out from Whitney Webb that Wexler installed monitoring equipment throughout the Upper East Side mansion he then 'gave' to Epstein. There's evidently more to this case than Epstein himself. Webb then connects Wexler to organized crime and well-heeled organized Zionism– both sponsors of multi-farious sex/blackmail schemes stretching back decades (as in Meyer Lansky and Roy Cohn). Jizzaline wasn't considered radioactive at Chelsea Clinton's wedding. Looks like pedophilia is as Zio-American as apple pie.

[Aug 25, 2019] It's just not typical for someone of such enormous wealth to all of a sudden give his money to some guy most people have never heard of

Sep 07, 2019 | observer.com

Originally from: Observer by By Sissi Cao

... ... ...

Wexner, 81, is the only known client of Epstein's mysterious money management firm registered in the U.S. Virgin Islands. He is also the former owner of Epstein's 45,000-square-foot residence on Manhattan's "Museum Mile."

Wexner hired Epstein to manage his multi-billion-dollar fortune in 1987. The relationship was seen as highly unusual per Wall Street standards. "It's just not typical for someone of such enormous wealth to all of a sudden give his money to some guy most people have never heard of," a person who knew Epstein told the New York magazine in 2002.

But Wexner has said that he severed ties with Epstein a decade ago after he faced allegations of sexually assaulting dozens of underage girls and running a sex trafficking scheme targeting minors. Those accusations led to a criminal case in 2008, but a team of skilled attorneys helped Epstein strike a controversially lenient plea deal with prosecutors.

In February, a federal judge in Flordia (where Epstein has a large home) appealed the verdict, saying prosecutors in the 2008 case had violated laws by allowing Epstein to plead guilty before notifying victims.

Last Saturday, Epstein was arrested at a New Jersey airport on newly unsealed indictments related to sex trafficking.

L Brands and the Wexner family haven't publicly commented on the new case against Epstein.

[Aug 25, 2019] The Mega Group's role in the Epstein case

Aug 25, 2019 | michaelruark.blog

In April 2003, a research report for the Wexner Foundation was leaked which was entitled Wexner Analysis: Israeli Communication Priorities 2003 . The document was prepared by the Luntz Research Companies and Israel Project. The document was a public relationship document which provided communication strategies for American supporters of Israel, especially those in the media, on how to sway U.S. public opinion in favor of Israel in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict, and how to link Israel's interests with those of the United States. It was considered controversial since it was seen as a covert communication campaign for swaying the American public and showed a lack of good faith in resolving the conflict.

In October 2018, Israeli reporter Erel Segal and news outlets such as mida had reported that US$2.3 million had been transferred to Ehud Barak for unknown work between 2004 and 2006 by the Wexner foundation, which had described the money transfer as payment for research.

On October 29th Maariv (through its Israeli radio station) reported that Ehud Barak had been given the funds while he was a private citizen and the fund transfer is under investigation.

However, on November 6 a call for investigation by the attorney general of Israel had been filed. The following day, it was reported that contrary to initial claims, the Wexner funds had been transferred to Ehud Barak while he may not have been a private person.

The Mega Group's role in the Epstein case has garnered some attention, as Epstein's main financial patron for decades, billionaire Leslie Wexner, was a co-founder of the group that unites several well-known businessmen with a penchant for pro-Israel and ethno-philanthropy (i.e., philanthropy benefiting a single ethnic or ethno-religious group). However, another uniting factor among Mega Group members is deep ties to organized crime, specifically the organized crime network, which was largely led by notorious American mobster Meyer Lansky.

[Aug 25, 2019] Who in the US goverment was protecting Epstein and facilitiating Epstein activities

Aug 25, 2019 | off-guardian.org

DunGroanin

Even when he was 'sent down' to the cushy jail – he had it made easy. He was able to buy all he wanted. Including kiddie size girl panties! In prison!!

His charitable work was supposed to be at a charity set up just before he went in prison guards accompanying him on his daily escapades and multi 'chiropractory' appointments per day were paid by him and had to dress in business suits the records of who met have been destroyed.

But the prison has had to release a whole bunch of records that still exist.

This is a exploding can of worms that doesn't look like stopping anytime soon.

[Aug 25, 2019] Conspiracy Theories: Jeffrey Epstein's Uniquely American Death in Jail

Aug 25, 2019 | www.mintpressnews.com

The deal, which former U.S. Attorney Alex Acosta struck with Epstein's attorney, ensured Epstein only served 13 months in county jail. According to a Miami Herald investigation , "potential co-conspirators" were granted immunity. Details of the deal were sealed until the judge approved the deal. Plus, the non-prosecution agreement effectively ended an FBI probe into "whether there were more victims and other powerful people who took part in Epstein's sex crimes."

"This is the story of how Epstein, bolstered by unlimited funds and represented by a powerhouse legal team, was able to manipulate the criminal justice system, and how his accusers, still traumatized by their pasts, believe they were betrayed by the very prosecutors who pledged to protect them," the Miami Herald's Julie K. Brown wrote.

Acosta was President Donald Trump's Labor Secretary until he was forced out in disgrace for his role in cementing the Epstein deal.

At one time or another, Epstein's social circle intersected with former President Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew, and Trump.

Documents unsealed on Friday contained allegations from one of Epstein's most well-known accusers, Virginia Giuffre. They implicated "former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, former U.S. Senator George Mitchell, Hyatt hotels magnate Tom Pritzker, hedge fund manager Glenn Dubin, the late Massachusetts Institute of Technology scientist Marvin Minsky, modeling agent Jean-Luc Brunel, Dershowitz, Prince Andrew, another unnamed prince, plus 'a well-known Prime Minister.'"

America's criminal punishment system operates with one system for the wealthy and powerful and one for the underclasses, especially people of color. Elites prevented a wide-ranging probe but in 2019, the publicity along with the # MeToo -inspired shift in consciousness meant they were no longer likely to escape accountability.

None of the above proves a conspiracy. However, it should give space to citizens to express their reservations about what happened until authorities involved in an investigation can transparently account for Epstein's death.

[Aug 25, 2019] The Genesis and Evolution of the Jeffrey Epstein, Bill Clinton Relationship

Some wild speculation which looks like third rate fiction. For example the episode describes as Barr meeting with Clinton looks like pure fiction: " During the meeting, William Barr, who represented himself as the emissary of then-CIA Director Bill Casey told Clinton: "The deal we made was to launder our money through your bond business but what we didn't plan on was you and your n****r here start taking yourselves seriously and purposely shrinking our laundry."
In such talks only two people are present and there are no notes...
But still Wexner emerges as a very strange semi-criminal figure who mingled with some people closely connected to organized crime and possibly intelligence agencies.
An interesting detail that is mentioned in this article is that Ghislaine Maxwell used to be closely connected with Chelsea Clinton.
Notable quotes:
"... Columbus Dispatch ..."
"... Epstein who orchestrated logistics for Wexner's business operations, including The Limited. As was revealed in the Arthur Shapiro murder file and in ties between SAT and The Limited, much of The Limited's logistics involved figures and companies connected to organized crime and U.S. intelligence. ..."
"... In addition, during this time period, Epstein had already begun to live in the now infamous New York penthouse that had first been purchased by Wexner in 1989. Wexner had apparently installed CCTV and recording equipment in an odd bathroom in the home after his purchase, and never lived in the home, as was noted in Part III of this series. ..."
"... In an exclusive interview, Bob Fitrakis told MintPress that Epstein and Wexner's involvement with SAT's relocation to Ohio had caused suspicion among some prominent state and local officials that the two were working with U.S. intelligence. ..."
"... Fitrakis specifically stated that then-Ohio Inspector General David Strutz and then-Sheriff of Franklin County Earl Smith had personally told him that they believed that both Epstein and Wexner had ties to the CIA. These claims further corroborate what was first reported by Nigel Rosser in the Evening Standard that Epstein had claimed to have worked for the CIA in the past. ..."
"... he believed that Wexner's association with SAT was related to his ties to elements of organized crime that were connected to the Lansky-created National Crime Syndicate. ..."
"... Catherine Austin Fitts -- the former investment banker and government official, who has extensively investigated the intersection of organized crime, black markets, Wall Street and the government in the U.S. economy -- was told by an ex-CIA employee that Wexner was one of five key managers of organized crime cash flows in the United States. ..."
"... As this series has noted in previous reports, Meyer Lansky was a pioneer of sexual blackmail operations and was deeply connected to both U.S. intelligence and Israel's Mossad. Furthermore, many members of the so-called Mega Group, which Wexner co-founded, had direct ties to the Lansky crime syndicate. ..."
"... Whitney Webb is a MintPress News journalist based in Chile. She has contributed to several independent media outlets including Global Research, EcoWatch, the Ron Paul Institute and 21st Century Wire, among others. She has made several radio and television appearances and is the 2019 winner of the Serena Shim Award for Uncompromised Integrity in Journalism. ..."
Aug 25, 2019 | www.mintpressnews.com

During that same period of time, Epstein had already forged close ties to important Clinton White House officials and prominent Clinton donors like Lynn Forester de Rothschild and made several personal visits to the official presidential residence.

Despite the involvement of these CIA-linked men, as well as the organized crime-linked Leslie Wexner, the then-president of SAT told the Columbus Dispatch that the airline was "no longer connected to the CIA."

Notably, It was during this same time that Epstein exerted substantial control over Wexner's finances; and, according to Fitrakis and his extensive reporting on Wexner from this period, it was Epstein who orchestrated logistics for Wexner's business operations, including The Limited. As was revealed in the Arthur Shapiro murder file and in ties between SAT and The Limited, much of The Limited's logistics involved figures and companies connected to organized crime and U.S. intelligence.

It is also important to note that SAT was well-known for being a CIA front company prior to the efforts of Wexner et al. to bring the airline to Columbus, and that, a few years prior, Epstein himself had previously worked for intelligence-linked figures also involved in Iran-Contra, such as Adnan Khashoggi.

In addition, during this time period, Epstein had already begun to live in the now infamous New York penthouse that had first been purchased by Wexner in 1989. Wexner had apparently installed CCTV and recording equipment in an odd bathroom in the home after his purchase, and never lived in the home, as was noted in Part III of this series.

In an exclusive interview, Bob Fitrakis told MintPress that Epstein and Wexner's involvement with SAT's relocation to Ohio had caused suspicion among some prominent state and local officials that the two were working with U.S. intelligence.

Fitrakis specifically stated that then-Ohio Inspector General David Strutz and then-Sheriff of Franklin County Earl Smith had personally told him that they believed that both Epstein and Wexner had ties to the CIA. These claims further corroborate what was first reported by Nigel Rosser in the Evening Standard that Epstein had claimed to have worked for the CIA in the past.

Fitrakis also told MintPress that Strutz had referred to SAT's route between Hong Kong and Columbus on behalf of Wexner's company The Limited as "the Meyer Lansky run," as he believed that Wexner's association with SAT was related to his ties to elements of organized crime that were connected to the Lansky-created National Crime Syndicate. In addition, Catherine Austin Fitts -- the former investment banker and government official, who has extensively investigated the intersection of organized crime, black markets, Wall Street and the government in the U.S. economy -- was told by an ex-CIA employee that Wexner was one of five key managers of organized crime cash flows in the United States.

As this series has noted in previous reports, Meyer Lansky was a pioneer of sexual blackmail operations and was deeply connected to both U.S. intelligence and Israel's Mossad. Furthermore, many members of the so-called Mega Group, which Wexner co-founded, had direct ties to the Lansky crime syndicate.

... ... ...

The Israel lobbying effort had considerable help from Mega Group member Michael Steinhardt as well as Abe Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), which was at the time heavily funded by Mega Group members, including Ronald Lauder and Edgar Bronfman.

There has been speculation for years that Clinton's decision to pardon Rich may have been the result of "leverage" or blackmail that Israel had acquired on the then-president's activities. As was noted in Part III of this report, the Mossad-linked "Mega" spy scandal broke in 1997, whereby Israeli intelligence had been targeting Clinton's effort to broker a peace agreement between Israel and Palestine and had sought to go to "Mega," likely a reference to the Mega Group, to obtain a sensitive document.

In addition, Israel is known to have acquired phone conversations between Clinton and Monica Lewinsky before their affair was made public. Author Daniel Halper -- relying on on-the-record interviews with former officials and hundreds of pages of documents compiled in the event that Lewinsky took legal action against Clinton -- determined that Benjamin Netanyahu told Clinton that he had obtained recordings of the sexually-tinged phone conversations during the Wye Plantation talks between Israel and Palestine in 1998. Netanyahu attempted to use this information to get Clinton to pardon convicted Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard. Clinton considered pardoning Pollard but decided against it after CIA Director George Tenet threatened to resign if the pardon was given.

... ... ...

Whitney Webb is a MintPress News journalist based in Chile. She has contributed to several independent media outlets including Global Research, EcoWatch, the Ron Paul Institute and 21st Century Wire, among others. She has made several radio and television appearances and is the 2019 winner of the Serena Shim Award for Uncompromised Integrity in Journalism.

Taras77 10 hours ago ,

To state the obvious, current AG Barr does not come off in this excellent report as a stalwart defender of justice and accountability. May explain why the DOJ is not exactly leading the charge in disclosing the pile of steaming ____ that is RussiaGate and the Brennan coup attempt.

[Aug 25, 2019] Living Amongst Others by Gilad Atzmon

Notable quotes:
"... A few days ago Vanity Fair , the same outlet that once attempted to block the exposé of monster pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, published an article by Venessa Grigoriadis that provides some details of Epstein's friend and alleged 'co-conspirator' Ghislaine Maxwell. ..."
"... She would claim she had a phone job for them, 'and you'll make lots of money, meet everyone, and I'll change your life .'" Vanity Fair's source added: "When I asked what she thought of the underage girls, she looked at me and said, 'they're nothing, these girls. They are trash." ..."
"... The disregard of others and the dismissal of human life, symptomatic of the Epstein Orbit, extends beyond ethnicity, religious barriers and class. Indeed, we read in various outlets that Leslie Wexner, long standing patron of Epstein, is accused by some of having some connection to the murder of Arthur Shapiro -- a Jewish lawyer who was killed in a 1985 'mob-style murder ..."
"... According to Halper, Israel attempted to use tapes of former US president Bill Clinton's steamy sex chats with intern Monica Lewinsky to leverage the release of Jonathan Pollard. ..."
"... This horrific narrative of how Israel allegedly blackmailed an American president initially surfaced in 1999. In his book Gideon's Spies , author Gordon Thomas claimed that the Mossad had collected some 30 hours' worth of phone sex conversations between Lewinsky and Clinton and was using them to blackmail the US or to protect a deeply-embedded mole in the White House. ..."
"... I now believe that Epstein was just a player in a huge crime syndicate that often seems to operate in large parts of American life, its politics, culture, academia and, of course, finance. In such a vile apparatus Epstein ran an amusement park. He was never 'a financier.' He specialized in accumulating filth that could be used to extract dollars or other favours. ..."
"... In America in 2019 just about every politician at any level except probably Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib has been reduced into a Zionist puppet. Every prominent American is subject to direct or indirect Zionist pressure of one kind or another. ..."
"... "they're nothing, these girls. They are trash." ..."
"... This is another example of "the virtue of hate." These psychotic posers who insist on improving the world have given themselves carte blanche to perform any evil deed they like because they believe that their cognitive abilities are superior. ..."
"... The Epstein drama has instilled in me substantial doubt about the moral character of U.S. and Israeli elites which will probably come as no surprise to those reading this post who reached the same point I'm currently at some years or even decades ago. ..."
"... What we always see since inception of the CIA regime is that they keep their puppet rulers under tight control. Of course they use foreign intelligence assets to lower the boom. That gives CIA operational control protected by eyes-only intelligence liaison agreements, which are "compacts" judicially deemed* beyond the treaty-making powers of Congress. ..."
"... We have two criminal enterprises: the USG and the Jewish State. Reasonable people can differ about which is the henchman and which is the mastermind. But the crimes, in this case VIP kompromat, are indisputably collaborative efforts. Elected officials in the USA are puppets. But not Zionist puppets. They are puppets of Mossad and CIA. ..."
"... I understand what you are saying (because I have heard it so often) but I have a much different view of the CIA. I truly believe the CIA is a tool of statecraft, no different in its own way, than the marines or the special forces. If the CIA is guilty of doing lots of nasty stuff (which it is), it is only because it has been instructed to do so .by the powers that be. ..."
"... If you stop to think about it, it makes no sense, whatsoever, for the CIA to be allowed to act in an autonomous fashion. It does act with shadowy impunity, but the instructions for its all its "shadowy misdeeds" come from above. If you want to blame the CIA for all the dirty things it does, it is , in my perspective, a lot like blaming the "9 mm with silencer" for all the people it kills. ..."
"... One of the most fascinating aspect of Jewish culture and ID politics is the contradictory mixture of arrogance and sense of grandeur together with shameless victimhood. If this discrepancy could be fixed, Zionism would have prevailed in making the Jews 'ppl like all other ppl' as it vowed initially ..."
Aug 25, 2019 | www.unz.com

A few days ago Vanity Fair , the same outlet that once attempted to block the exposé of monster pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, published an article by Venessa Grigoriadis that provides some details of Epstein's friend and alleged 'co-conspirator' Ghislaine Maxwell.

Multiple victims claim that Maxwell often brought girls to Epstein and that she was an active sexual participant as well. According to Vanity Fair, "a source close to Maxwell says she spoke glibly and confidently about getting girls to sexually service Epstein, saying this was simply what he wanted, and describing the way she'd drive around to spas and trailer parks in Florida to recruit them. She would claim she had a phone job for them, 'and you'll make lots of money, meet everyone, and I'll change your life .'" Vanity Fair's source added: "When I asked what she thought of the underage girls, she looked at me and said, 'they're nothing, these girls. They are trash."

This is gossipy information, but it seems consistent with what we have learned about Epstein and his ring. Those familiar with Maxwell family history won't be shocked that Maxwell is quoted calling the girls "trash." Daddy Maxwell plundered the lifetime pensions of his workers for his own use. He was alleged to be a Mossad agent. Not many know that Daddy Maxwell was also under police investigation for war crimes just before he drowned. Metropolitan Detectives were preparing to interview Maxwell, once a decorated captain in the British army, about an allegation that he murdered the unarmed mayor of a German City back in 1945.

One may say 'like father like daughter'. But the total dismissal of otherness and human life is not limited to the Maxwells. Those of us who follow the unfolding Palestinian tragedy are pretty familiar with the institutional disregard to human life that is symptomatic of Israeli policy and is supported by its forceful lobby around the world. The saga of disgraceful conduct on the part of Epstein and others in his orbit suggests that the dismissal of otherness is characteristic of a wide circuit of those affiliated ideologically, politically and spiritually with Zion.

During an interview with Miami news station WPLG Alan Dershowitz not only bashed one of his accusers, calling her an "admitted prostitute and a serial liar" but claimed that the then-teen was not victimized and in fact "made her own decisions in life." I am not in a position to determine whether Dershowitz is guilty of sex crimes (which he denies) but this kind of language is the last thing you would expect from a retired Ivy League law professor. One wouldn't imagine that a law 'scholar' would refer to an alleged victim of sex trafficking as 'an admitted prostitute.' Nor would one expect a veteran 'law scholar' to suggest that the child victim of sexual abuse by a registered sex offender was actually 'making her own decisions in life.' But this is exactly what we hear from Alan Dershowitz. No doubt one of the most vocal Zionist advocates around.

Watch the entire interview:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/_GlK8dr6MP0?feature=oembed

The disregard of others and the dismissal of human life, symptomatic of the Epstein Orbit, extends beyond ethnicity, religious barriers and class. Indeed, we read in various outlets that Leslie Wexner, long standing patron of Epstein, is accused by some of having some connection to the murder of Arthur Shapiro -- a Jewish lawyer who was killed in a 1985 'mob-style murder '. Shapiro's doomed soul was resurrected when the Columbus, Ohio Police released the controversial -- and once believed destroyed -- document investigating his death. Presumably Shapiro knew too much. And author Daniel Halper claims that Israel and its operators within American politics have not refrained from blackmailing even an American president.

According to Halper, Israel attempted to use tapes of former US president Bill Clinton's steamy sex chats with intern Monica Lewinsky to leverage the release of Jonathan Pollard. Halper claims that during the Wye Plantation talks between Israel and the Palestinian Authority, held in Maryland in 1998, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu pulled Bill Clinton aside to press for Pollard's release. "The Israelis present at Wye River had a new tactic for their negotiations–they'd overheard Clinton and Monica and had it on tape. Not wanting to directly threaten the powerful American president, a crucial Israeli ally, Clinton was told that the Israeli government had thrown the tapes away. But the very mention of them was enough to constitute a form of blackmail," Halper wrote, "according to information provided by a CIA source, a stricken Clinton appeared to buckle."

This horrific narrative of how Israel allegedly blackmailed an American president initially surfaced in 1999. In his book Gideon's Spies , author Gordon Thomas claimed that the Mossad had collected some 30 hours' worth of phone sex conversations between Lewinsky and Clinton and was using them to blackmail the US or to protect a deeply-embedded mole in the White House.

The Clintons have often been referred to in relation to the Epstein affair. It is likely, that as with the young women Epstein abused, the Clintons and other prominent Americans were also 'victims' so to say.

I now believe that Epstein was just a player in a huge crime syndicate that often seems to operate in large parts of American life, its politics, culture, academia and, of course, finance. In such a vile apparatus Epstein ran an amusement park. He was never 'a financier.' He specialized in accumulating filth that could be used to extract dollars or other favours.

In America in 2019 just about every politician at any level except probably Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib has been reduced into a Zionist puppet. Every prominent American is subject to direct or indirect Zionist pressure of one kind or another.

Igor Ogorodnev wrote yesterday on Russia Today that, "the media has wilfully misinterpreted Donald Trump's words to portray the most pro-Israel US president in history as an anti-Semite. It makes more sense to chide him for sacrificing US interests to please Benjamin Netanyahu." Here is my practical advice for Americans. Instead of accusing Trump of being an 'anti-Semite,' ask instead why your president is more loyal to Israel than most Israelis, let alone Jews.

To follow the path that led to Jeffrey Epstein's plea deal listen to this spectacular Jake Morphonios's podcast

https://www.youtube.com/embed/QK9GA46feWc?feature=oembed


lysias , says: August 23, 2019 at 3:25 pm GMT

Where is Ghislaine Maxwell? Does anybody know? Apparently, the photo of her in the LA burger joint is fake.
Jon Baptist , says: August 23, 2019 at 3:54 pm GMT

"they're nothing, these girls. They are trash."

This is another example of "the virtue of hate." These psychotic posers who insist on improving the world have given themselves carte blanche to perform any evil deed they like because they believe that their cognitive abilities are superior.

The mentality that calls for copulating with a wall in Jerusalem also calls for taking the innocence away from children and young teens. Dershowitz, Epstein, Maxwell, Weinstein, etc., can be sexual deviants because they are giving the world things like trans-humanism, sodomy, abortion and usury.

Gilad your idea in 'Nakba II' where you write that the, "Jewish State is making a real effort to redefine the notion of Jewish 'kindness'" is the most on-point analysis you have ever written. The "virtue of hate" is why the "Who" wanders. The group that speaks modern Hebrew as well as the diaspora who seek Eretz Yisrael and Tikkun Olam will eventually destroy themselves because their 42 volumes of theology is fatally flawed. The hate that they exude always returns back on them.

Who tried to correct their behavior over 2000 years ago? Who was crucified for telling them to "love your enemies?"

And right on cue, Whitney Webb retweets this .

Longfisher , says: August 23, 2019 at 7:43 pm GMT
The Epstein drama has instilled in me substantial doubt about the moral character of U.S. and Israeli elites which will probably come as no surprise to those reading this post who reached the same point I'm currently at some years or even decades ago.
Bob Gates' Latex Jew Schnozz , says: August 23, 2019 at 9:11 pm GMT
Notice that it happened at Wye Plantation. That's Aspen Institute's East Coast satellite office. And as any minimally sentient pongid knows, Aspen is CIA. Is anybody dumb enough to think CIA didn't know exactly what transpired? Staging the blackmail threat at a famous CIA front is what you call messaging. The message is, We Know, Too.

Closed caption for the hard-of-thinking: "according to information provided by a ► ► CIA ◄ ◄ source, a stricken Clinton appeared to buckle."

What we always see since inception of the CIA regime is that they keep their puppet rulers under tight control. Of course they use foreign intelligence assets to lower the boom. That gives CIA operational control protected by eyes-only intelligence liaison agreements, which are "compacts" judicially deemed* beyond the treaty-making powers of Congress.

We have two criminal enterprises: the USG and the Jewish State. Reasonable people can differ about which is the henchman and which is the mastermind. But the crimes, in this case VIP kompromat, are indisputably collaborative efforts. Elected officials in the USA are puppets. But not Zionist puppets. They are puppets of Mossad and CIA.

Purging all the bad Jew apples won't do you any good. The Mormons or the Family or some other cult will take over, and you'll be just as fucked. Your problem is CIA impunity. Fix that. Lock up some criminal spooks. They'll sing like John McCain in VC hands and you'll be free.

* in United States v. Belmont

AnonStarter , says: August 23, 2019 at 9:31 pm GMT
/Those of us who follow the unfolding Palestinian tragedy are pretty familiar with the institutional disregard to human life that is symptomatic of Israeli policy and is supported by its forceful lobby around the world. /

Micocosms of that disregard appear regularly among the zionazis that slum about this venue.

Here's a good example of it in your previous article's discussion thread:

Ah, you guys lost war after war. Had you won we would be gone. We won you are gone. Look India just took over Kashmir. The Palestinians are losers, losers do not get to dictate the right of who lives there and who doesn't

Sean , says: August 23, 2019 at 11:32 pm GMT

[D]ecorated captain in the British army

Robert Maxwell only won the George Medal, which is not for bravery in combat.

The disregard of others and the dismissal of human life, symptomatic of the Epstein Orbit, extends beyond ethnicity, religious barriers and class.

That is very true, but there was something that made Epstein a predator of his fellow Jews. Possibly because he hated the low social status in the Jewish community that his father job as a city groundsman relegated the family to. In fact the father of Roberts/Giuffre had a similar, but rather better job than Epstein's father.

alexander , says: August 23, 2019 at 11:51 pm GMT
@Bob Gates' Latex Jew Schnozz

I understand what you are saying (because I have heard it so often) but I have a much different view of the CIA. I truly believe the CIA is a tool of statecraft, no different in its own way, than the marines or the special forces. If the CIA is guilty of doing lots of nasty stuff (which it is), it is only because it has been instructed to do so .by the powers that be.

If you stop to think about it, it makes no sense, whatsoever, for the CIA to be allowed to act in an autonomous fashion. It does act with shadowy impunity, but the instructions for its all its "shadowy misdeeds" come from above. If you want to blame the CIA for all the dirty things it does, it is , in my perspective, a lot like blaming the "9 mm with silencer" for all the people it kills.

To find the real culprit, look to the hand that pulls its trigger.

Sean , says: August 24, 2019 at 1:04 am GMT
These are a lot of people on this site who seem quite normal until you mention the CIA then their schizophrenia spectrum disorder becomes salient.

To find the real culprit, look to the hand that pulls its trigger.

The real culprit is the real world , which forces every country into subversion and military menacing against every other country, forming alliances with them only to better subvert and wage war on other alliances.

anon [396] Disclaimer , says: August 24, 2019 at 5:09 am GMT
Comedian Bill Hicks explains the newly elected President's first day:

I have this feeling man, 'cause you know, it's just a handful of people who run everything, you know, that's true, it's provable. It's not -- I'm not a fucking conspiracy nut, it's provable. A handful, a very small elite, run and own these corporations, which include the mainstream media.

I have this feeling that whoever is elected president, like Clinton was, no matter what you promise on the campaign trail -- blah, blah, blah -- when you win, you go into this smoke-filled room with the twelve industrialist capitalist scum-fucks who got you in there. And you're in this smoky room, and this little film screen comes down, and a big guy with a cigar goes, "Roll the film."

And it's a shot of the Kennedy assassination from an angle you've never seen before that looks suspiciously like it's from the grassy knoll. And then the screen goes up and the lights come up, and they go to the new president, "Any questions?"

[mimicking Bush] "Er, just what my agenda is."

"First we bomb Baghdad."

"You got it "

Bill Hicks explains US Presidency

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Ytv15ono5J0?feature=oembed

Of course, the film they roll is both the Kennedy killshot from the grassy knoll and the President porking a 15 year old.

Jeff Stryker , says: August 24, 2019 at 5:14 am GMT
@Sean SEAN

As if Clinton did not prey on vulnerable and impressionable young Jewish girls. Or Hugh Hefner. Or Larry Flynt.

The core difference is that there are less of them.

If a creepy older Gentile couple went into some poor Jewish borough in New York City that was the equivalent of a trailer park, they would have any success getting 14 year old Jewish girls to come stampeding out for $300.

There are not many Jewish girls roaming the roads of Miami at 1 am on drugs in rich neighborhoods (What were these girls doing in a wealthy neighborhood even before they met Epstein? What were they planning to do there?).

Where were these girls' parents? Why are Jewish girls better insulated? Is this a Zion conspiracy?

Don't get me wrong. The world is full of trashy Jewish young women like Lewinsky or even middle-aged ones like Sarah Silverman who will do anything with any Gentile who will advance their careers. Porn has always been loaded with working-class Jewish girls.

But these are young women over 21 who have made a decision. Not kids.

So how are Jews protecting their children?

Why aren't Jewish girls pouring out trailer parks willing to do anything for $300?

Justsaying , says: August 24, 2019 at 6:40 am GMT

In America in 2019 just about every politician at any level except probably Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib has been reduced into a Zionist puppet.

It is virtually impossible to think of any country, powerful or weak, wealthy or poor that exercises such complete control over any other country, powerful or weak, rich or poor as Zionist Israel does over our country, the US of A. To top it all, discussion on the issue of liberation from this suffocating control and what in effect is annexation, has not even begun because the gagging that prevents it reflects the complete level that such control has achieved. It is a phenomenon that defies all logic. Anything short of a second war of independence, will not move this country closer to the company of free and sovereign nations of which, to be honest, are few and far between.

Frankie P , says: August 24, 2019 at 7:01 am GMT
Do any of these revelations surprise you anymore, Gilad? The Ghislaine Maxwell statement, "they're nothing, these girls. They're trash."? The Dersh comments calling a woman who was abused as a child "admitted prostitute and serial liar" who was "making her own decisions in life" when she was abused at age 15? Does any of it surprise you?

These people are informed, inculcated, immersed in this culture, thought, worldview:

Yossi Gurvitz: "The worst case, in my opinion, is the case of Maimonides, who decrees – first of all, he decrees that it is permissible to have sexual relations with a three-year-old girl. The age of consent is problematic. And second of all he decrees that if a Jew rapes a three-year-old non-Jewish girl, then she must be executed. Her, not him – because she tempted him to sin. And for this reason you have to treat her like an animal that put obstacles in a person's way, and he quotes some verse about a bull or something like that."

Gilad Atzmon , says: Website August 24, 2019 at 8:40 am GMT
@AnonStarter @AnonStarter

One of the most fascinating aspect of Jewish culture and ID politics is the contradictory mixture of arrogance and sense of grandeur together with shameless victimhood. If this discrepancy could be fixed, Zionism would have prevailed in making the Jews 'ppl like all other ppl' as it vowed initially

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Elizabeth Vos reviews the unsavory history of intelligence agencies providing protection to child sex-trafficking rings.

Jeffrey Epstein's compound in the Virgin Islands. (YouTube)

By Elizabeth Vos
Special to Consortium News

T he alleged use of sexual blackmail by spy agencies is hardly unique to the case of Jeffrey Epstein. Although the agencies involved as well as their alleged motivations and methods differ with each case, the crime of child trafficking with ties to intelligence agencies or those protected by them has been around for decades.

Some cases include the 1950s -1970s Kincora scandal and the 1981 Peter Hayman affair, both in the U.K.; and the Finders' cult and the Franklin scandal in the U.S. in the late 1980s. Just as these cases did not end in convictions, the pedophile and accused child-trafficker Jeffrey Epstein remained at arms' length for years.

"For almost two decades, for some nebulous reason, whether to do with ties to foreign intelligence, his billions of dollars, or his social connections, Epstein, whose alleged sexual sickness and horrific assaults on women without means or ability to protect themselves remained untouchable," journalist Vicky Ward wrote in The Daily Beast in July.

The protection of sex traffickers by intelligence agencies is especially interesting in the wake of Epstein's death . Like others, Epstein had long been purported to have links with spy agencies. Such allegations documented by Whitney Webb in her multi-part series were recently published in Mintpress News .

Webb states that Epstein was the current face of an extensive system of abuse with ties to both organized crime and intelligence interests. She told CNLive! that: "According to Nigel Rosser, a British journalist who wrote in the Evening Standard in 2001, Epstein apparently for much of the 1990s claimed that he used to work for the CIA."

Vicky Ward , who wrote on Epstein for Vanity Fair before his first arrest, and claimed the magazine killed one of her pieces after Epstein intervened with editor Graydon Carter, said in a Tweet that one of Epstein's clients was Adnan Khashoggi, an arms dealer who was pivotal in the Iran Contra scandal and was on the Mossad (the Israeli intelligence agency) payroll. This was also noted in a book "By Way of Deception" by former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky.

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The Times of Israel reported that Epstein was an "active business partner with former prime minister Ehud Barak" until 2015, adding: "Barak formed a limited partnership company in Israel in 2015, called Sum (E.B.) to invest in a high-tech startup . A large part of the money used by Sum to buy the start-up stock was supplied by Epstein."

Webb wrote he "was a long-time friend of Barak, who has long-standing and deep ties to Israel's intelligence community." On the board of their company sat Pinchas Bukhris, a former commander of the IDF cyber unit 8200.

Epstein's allegedly protected status was revealed by Alexander Acosta, the former U.S. attorney in Miami who gave Epstein an infamously lenient plea deal in 2007. Acosta, who was forced to resign as President Donald Trump's labor secretary because of that deal, reportedly said of the case: "I was told Epstein 'belonged to intelligence' and to leave it alone."

Alexander Acosta: "Told to leave it alone." (Flickr/Gage Skidmore)

Kincora Boy's Home

Several cases in the unsavory history linking intelligence agencies and sex scandals put the allegations against Epstein in context. Among these was the U.K. Kincora Boy's Home, where a t least 29 boys were reported to have been targeted at the Belfast, Northern Ireland, facility from the mid-1950s until the late 1970s, until it was shut in 1980. It also involved the alleged protection of child sexual abusers at the home and among their clients.

The Irish Times wrote that "destitute boys were systematically sodomised by members of Kincora staff and were supplied for abuse to prominent figures in unionist politics. The abusers – among them MPs, councillors, leading Orangemen and other influential individuals – became potentially important intelligence assets."

The Belfast Telegraph also quoted former Labour Party MP Ken Livingstone, who said: "MI5 weren't just aware of child abuse at Kincora Boys' Home – they were monitoring it. They were getting pictures of a judge in one case, politicians, a lot of the establishment of Northern Ireland going in and abusing these boys."

Three staff were eventually convicted of sexually abusing minors, which included the housemaster William McGrath, a loyalist "Orangeman" and allegedly an MI5 agent, according to the Belfast Telegraph in July 2014.

Kincora Boy's Home. (YouTube)

Although the U.K.'s Historical Institutional Abuse inquiry ultimately found " no credible evidence " to support the allegations, two former U.K. intelligence officers maintained their claim of MI5's involvement: Brian Gemmell says he alerted MI5 to the abuse at Kincora and was told to stop his investigation; and a former army intelligence officer, Colin Wallace, "consistently claimed that MI5, RUC special branch and military intelligence knew about the abuse at Kincora and used it to blackmail the pedophile ring to spy on hardline loyalists," according to The Guardian .

The Irish outlet, An Phoblacht , wrote: "The systematic abuse of young boys in the Home and the part played by the British intelligence organisations to keep the scandal under wraps ensured that one side of the murky world of Unionist paramilitarism and its links to the crown forces was kept out of the public domain for years."

In the U.S., the New York State Select Committee On Crime in 1982 investigated nationwide networks of trafficking underage sex workers and producing child pornography. Dale Smith, a committee investigator, noted that call services using minors also profited from "sidelines," besides the income from peddling prostitution. Smith said they sold information "on the sexual proclivities of the clients to agents of foreign intelligence." Presumably, this information could be used to blackmail those in positions of power. Smith added that one call service sold information to "British and Israeli intelligence."

The Hayman Affair

Ken Livingstone "MI5 monitored abuse at Kincora Boys' Home. (World Economic Forum)

Another U.K. scandal included allegations that Sir Peter Hayman , a British diplomat and deputy director of MI6, was a member of the Pedophile Information Exchange (PIE).

Police discovered that two of the roughly dozen pedophiles in his circle had been writing to each other about their interest in "the extreme sexual torture and murder of children," according to the The Daily Mail .

In 2015, The Guardian reported that former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher had been "adamant that officials should not publicly name" Hayman, "even after she had been fully briefed on his activities .formerly secret papers released to the National Archives shows."

Still, Hayman was unmasked as a subscriber to PIE in 1981 by M.P. Geoffrey Dickens, who also reportedly raised the national security risk of Hayman's proclivities, implying they were a potential source of blackmail sought by intelligence agencies.

The British tabloid The Mirror reported that intelligence agencies, including the KGB and CIA, kept their own dossiers on U.K. establishment figures involved with PIE and the abuse of minors, to blackmail the targets in exchange for information.

Hayman was never charged for his association with PIE: The U.K. attorney general at the time, Sir Michael Havers, defended the decision and denied claims that Heyman was given special treatment.

Labour Party MP Barbara Castle allegedly gave a dossier she compiled on pedophiles in positions of power to U.K. journalist Don Hale in 1984 when he was editor of the Brury Messenger . Hale alleged that soon afterward, police from the "Special Branch, the division responsible for matters of national security," raided his office and removed the Castle dossier. They then threatened him with a "D-notice," which prevented him from publishing the story on the threat of up to 10 years in prison.

The Finders Cult

Another group accused of trafficking children, which had links to intelligence agencies, was the "Finders" cult. In 1987, The Washington Post reported that two members were arrested in connection with the alleged abuse of six children. Investigators found materials in Madison County, Virginia, which they said linked to a "commune called the Finders."

Vauxhall Cross, London, headquarters of British Secret Intelligence Service.
(Laurie Nevay, CC BY-SA 2.0, Wikimedia Commons)

Besides nude photographs of children, a Customs Service memo written by special agent Ramon Martinez refers to files "relating to the activities of the organization in different parts of the world, including "London, Germany, the Bahamas, Japan, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Africa, Costa Rica, and Europe."

Martinez's memo notes that a Finders' telex ordered the purchase of two children in Hong Kong. Another expressed interest in "bank secrecy situations." The memo also documents high-tech transfers to the U.K., numerous properties under the Finders' control, the group's interest in terrorism, explosives, and the evasion of law enforcement.

Martinez describes the swift end to his investigation. He wrote that on April 12, 1987, he arrived at the Metropolitan Police Department and was told that all the data was turned over to the State Department which, in turn, advised MPD that "all travel and use of passports by the holders was within the law and no action would be taken. Then he was told that the investigation into the Finders had become a CIA internal matter. The MPD report was classified, not available for review" and "No further action will be taken."

Martinez was not the only person with unanswered questions. The U.S.News & World Report wrote that N. Carolina Rep. Charlie Rose (Dem.), chair of the House Administration Committee, and Florida's Rep. Tom Lewis (Rep.) asked "Could our own government have something to do with this Finders organization and turned their backs on these children? That's what the evidence points to," says Lewis, adding that "I can tell you that we've got a lot of people scrambling, and that wouldn't be happening if there was nothing here."

The leniency shown by the State Department and the fact that the CIA would designate the investigation of the Finders group as "an internal matter" raises serious questions. What motive might have driven the CIA to associate with or protect a child abuse ring?

Harry S. Truman State Department building. (Paco8191, CC BY 3.0, Wikimedia Commons)

The Franklin Scandal

The Franklin Scandal erupted in 1988, centering on a child-trafficking ring operating in Omaha, Nebraska, by Lawrence E. King Jr. , a former vice chairman of the National Black Republican Council: It was alleged that children were provided to politicians in Washington, D.C., and elsewhere, among other illegal activities.

The late former state Sen. John Decamp alleged in his book "The Franklin Coverup" that a special committee of the Nebraska Legislature launched a probe to investigate the affair, which involved King being indicted for embezzling money from the Franklin Credit Union. The committee hired former Lincoln, Nebraska, police officer Jerry Lowe, whose reports suggested that King was involved in "guns and money transfers to Nicaragua," and was linked with the CIA.

James Flanery, an investigative reporter at The World Herald who reported on the scandal, told associates that King was "running guns and money into Nicaragua," and that the CIA was heavily involved."

Like many scandals before and since, the Franklin case ended with no prosecution of the perpetrators. However, Paul Bonacci, one of the alleged victims, was indicted for perjury. He had alleged that he was sexually abused as a minor in Nebraska and around the country where he was flown by Lawrence King.

In 1999, the Omaha World Herald reported Bonacci was awarded $1 million in damages due to his lawsuit against King and other alleged perpetrators. Decamp, who was Bonacci's attorney, told the newspaper "Obviously, you don't award $1 million if you don't think he (Bonacci) was telling the truth."

Given the history of child trafficking rings that were allegedly connected with or enjoyed the protection of intelligence services, it is possible that similar claims about Jeffrey Epstein are something the authorities, though unlikely given these other instances, should investigate.

Elizabeth Vos is a freelance reporter and regular contributor to Consortium News.

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homer , August 24, 2019 at 11:05

You seemed to leave off quite a few names that are important to this piece one being, Jimmy Savile.

Zhu , August 24, 2019 at 03:25

A lot of "alleged" and "it is possible" here.

Esteleen , August 24, 2019 at 01:30

I will never clap for another politician as long as I live. Not a single politician has stood up for Epstein's child rape victims and Alexander Acosta's excuse to defend Epstein's victims confirms that our criminal justice system turns the other way for pedophiles or anyone as long as they have lots of money or power. Meanwhile, our own government spies on law-abiding citizens.

Our laws no longer protect whistle-blowers or law-abiding dissent especially when we have military police and criminal intelligence agencies that operate without civilian oversight. God help us save ourselves from ourselves. "Try as I may I can not escape the sound of suffering". Julian Assange

bardamu , August 23, 2019 at 23:29

Fine article.

Given that "intelligence" agencies with no functional oversight and regularly involved in black ops use these things, and that a fresh use surfaces every few years, it seems parsimonious to conclude that they are a regular part of some subsection of intelligence community and, by extension, government operation. It makes little sense that this sort of of business is forever starting and stopping: that would be difficult to do.

Given that neither of the two major US parties have shown any interest in pursuing such connections, it seems clear that neither see any political advantage in pursuing it. A parsimonious conclusion is that at least some powerful members of media and both parties are involved, and that the connections are enough of an open secret that people know not to pursue it.

By extension, do we avoid the conclusion that this is in some way a mafia-run government?

caseyf5 , August 24, 2019 at 07:53

Hello bardamu, Instead of a "mafia-run government" I would like to suggest a Columbian Drug Cartel government or some other sinister, more evil, group or groups.

Larry Shea , August 23, 2019 at 18:21

Yup, Check out former Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, Dennis Hastert. See the video clip on NewsBud, "The Hastert Scandal: What the Media Isn't Telling You." The title of the piece is, The People's Campaign: The Real Hastert Case All in One Place. The above-mentioned video clip can be accessed within this article. More elite deviance!

[Aug 24, 2019] The Missing Howls of Denunciation Over Major Sex Trafficking

Notable quotes:
"... MeToo overturns the presumption of innocence making one guilty until proven innocent, inciting mob rule. ..."
"... Antifa legitimizes force as speech, just what the fascists want. ..."
"... Intelligence and law enforcement are always infiltrating organisations seeking social change through legal means. In Britain an undercover policeman even married an organizer in the course of his duties. (a Stasi trick although one presumes the tactic is timeless). ..."
"... It looks for all the world that Epstein was basically pimping for the elitist of the insider elites throughout the capitalist universe. Sex trafficking has always been a big money-maker, even amongst street people, common reprobates and the clergy. The rich and powerful have fixers like Epstein to take care of all their nasty business. Does anyone think that muckety-mucks in high finance, the media monopoly, law enforcement, the courts, the highest levels of government and even some prominent female rainmakers may not have been among the beneficiaries of this service industry? ..."
"... A considerable factor in the Epstein case is not his individual perversity or crimes, but hierarchy and corruption, not just the corruption of the sexuality but the use of the sexuality in cementing, rewarding, and coercing corruption. ..."
"... There is no way that Epstein could have had the type of business that he is widely regarded as having had without the extensive and ongoing involvement of both major political parties and major media entities. ..."
"... The same corporate media behind the muted outrage response to the trafficking of girls and the anodyne narrative of Epstein's death just spent more than two years trying to convince the world that it was the Russians, not the fossilized Electoral College, that put Donald Trump into the Whitehouse based soley on rumor, suggestion, inference and accusations from well known liars and frauds ..."
"... "Over the past year," Haartez wrote, "a high number of powerful Jewish men have been accused of sexual misconduct. While it has provided fodder for anti-Semites, activists say addressing the problem is vital." ..."
"... Bronfman is the daughter of the legendary ultra Zionist billionaire Edgar Bronfman (1929 –2013) who was president of the World Jewish Congress. In his obituary, Edgar Bronfman was described by Haaretz as "prince of the Jews." His daughter has been ordered to pay a penalty of $6 million out of her $200 million fortune, and she faces up to two years in prison. ..."
"... Bloomberg, not exactly an 'anti-Semitic' outlet, dug into The Complicated Orbit of Jeffrey Epstein. Zionist enthusiast Leslie Wexner was identified as Epstein's 'patron'. The Jewish virtual library informs us that Wexner "often support[s] .. Jewish projects. He serves as Honorary Vice Chairman of the Board of Congregation Aguda Achim [And] established the Wexner Foundation, which runs both a Graduate Fellowship and an Israel Fellowship Program." ..."
"... Bloomberg lists the following as amongst Epstein's 'business partners': Harvey Weinstein, Mort Zuckerman, Donny Deutsch, Nelson Peltz, Ehud Barak and Ponzi aficionado Steven Hoffenberg. ..."
"... This raises critical questions, the most elementary of which is, why? Why are so many Jewish men currently in the news in connection with sexually predatory behaviour? What is it about these rich and influential people that pushes them over the edge? ..."
"... why hasn't Ghislane Maxwell been arrested yet? ..."
"... "Target" is the word. Franken was clearly an attempt by the Democratic leadership to push the party farther to the right. ..."
"... Not surprising if being compromised was a necessary preliminary to their careers being advanced. ..."
"... This only confirms what I suspected about the Me,Too movement from the very start – that it is not a genuine grassroots movement by women, but rather a political tool the "politically correct" Establishment party invented as a weapon to destroy powerful men of the Opposition. ..."
"... The missing howls can be explained easily. The military-industrial-congressional-corporate-media complex does not wish them to be. ..."
"... The monolithic, feckless "media" got the same memo Acosta did. "Congress" and conceptions of "justice" are as oil and water. And besides, they don't f*** with the "well-connected". ..."
"... The ruling elites (and CIA-Mossad) simply want this business buried so that the circus and the information flowing from it can continue through other means Me Too has no interest, nothing to be gained from, no ax to grind in this affair – apparently. Which would seem to indicate that it was as shallow and spiteful as it appeared in the main. ..."
"... That such as Epstein was allowed, given the nod and wink, to carry on as he had and that the Me Too movement has so far been silent about the whole business does indeed suggest that the women involved in that so-called movement were had motives other than really wanting a big change in socio-cultural attitudes toward and about male-female relationships, interactions, conceptions of each other. ..."
"... The reason for MeToo disinterest is because they are a CIA controlled operation. ..."
"... Lucianne Goldberg has been trying to get dirt on Democratic presidents from 1960 on, when she tried to get close to JFK before settling for Johnson. In 1972 she worked for the North American Newspaper Alliance, a CIA front, looking for dirt in the McGovern campaign. Lewinsky's "friend", Linda Tripp, has a military intelligence background. It appears to me that the Lewinsky scandal was planned to happen. ..."
"... I suspect that Bill was easy to hook for Epstein's operation. ..."
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Why have the howls of outrage not echoed through the media? Why has the trumpet's call to action been silent? Why haven't the halls of Congress resounded with denunciation and the demands for justice.

Sexual trafficking of women and children is probably the century's greatest assault on girls and young women outside of Boko Haram's rampages and the crimes of the Islamic State against the Yazidis. In terms of sheer numbers, it exceeds those atrocities. High among the malefactors is the Epstein-Maxwell operation. Its foul activities went on for 25 years. It was known to law enforcement authorities for most of that time. The sole legal action taken was the one count lodged against Jeffrey Epstein in 2006 for "soliciting a minor." With the connivance of the highest authorities in Washington, it was a genteel house arrest that was a mockery of supposed punishment.

U.S. lawmakers speak in support of End Demand for Sex Trafficking Act, 2005. (Wikimedia Commons)

The most grotesque aspect of this sinister criminal ring was the knowing participation of dozens of members of the highest echelons of the American elite – possibly including two occupants of the White House. Rape – both statutory and violent – was the order of the day. So, too, involuntary confinement, extortion, blackmail, intimidation and god knows what other heinous crimes.

Yet, the protests and cries for punishment from our self-styled militants for women's rights have been muted – to understate things. A brief flurry of ritual shock in the weeks immediately after Epstein's arrest is all. Such condemnation as we heard or read placed the entire affair in the wadding of a general critique of the abuses carried out by privileged men since 1776. Now, just the usual titillation about the deplorable condition of Epstein's jail cell and tidbits about Lady Ghislaine – the socialite super madame.

Stunning Discrepancy

Compare this soft murmuring with the hell raised by so many about garden variety sexual harassment ascribed to public personalities. Al Franken driven out of the Senate. Garrison Keillor cast into the wilderness by NPR. Etc., etc. No rape, no violence -- an uninvited hand on the bare back of a decade-long acquaintance in the latter instance. The discrepancy is stunning.

We comb the news waiting to hear of the reception held by Elizabeth Drew and U.S. Rep. Nancy Pelosi in the former's swank Manhattan apartment to console and honor the victims. We wait breathlessly for a special issue of MSM exposing who was involved and what happened. We imagine deputations flooding the Capitol to insist on a swift, no-holds-barred investigation. We peer into the gloom for Hillary bearing the torch of women's emancipation. We anticipate The New York Times' mea culpa as to why they ignored the story for a quarter century. Perhaps #MeToo could sponsor a benefit concert in Central Park to raise funds for the hapless victims from around the world. After all, these odious crimes occurred on American soil, committed almost exclusively by Americans. The Clinton Foundation would be the logical place to ask for financial support. There is an ancient Crusader saying: "first the feast, then the morals."

We comb the news.

Mirages all. Isn't happening; won't happen

But why? The mind searches for explanations. Were the professional enforcers of strict no-harassment codes who police the nation seeking out evidence of stray male hands – especially if the women are well-educated, upper middle class and live in safe neighborhoods – on vacation? Or did they repress knowledge of friends who likely were implicated in the Epstein-Maxwell crimes? Did they find intolerable the idea that some of their favorites among the high and mighty are despicable low-lifes? Is the fact that the chief operational officer of the criminal enterprise was a woman inhibiting of incisive responses?
Let's also bear in mind that taking on the power elites (Epstein/Maxwell/ clients – maybe the CIA/Mossad) would indeed be ahard and dangerous business. By contrast, a Frankel or Keillor is a soft target. Those guys and their like are sensitive to their self-image and are not born fighters – moreover, their bosses have long practiced the art of the preemptive cringe.

Or, is it due to a core ambivalence that touches deep sensitivities about the myths we live by – held by men as well as women? Is it simply unpalatable that numerous of the elites who rule us – we America, the last best hope of humankind – and whom we admire are in fact among the scum of the earth?
Michelangelo: they feel that it is "better to nurse a delicious FANCY Than GAG ON TRUTH."

Powers of Sublimation

Hillary Clinton, as first lady, giving her famous "women's rights are human rights" 1995 speech in Beijing. (Sharon Farmer/White House via Wikimedia Commons)

Finally, let's never underestimate the powers of sublimation in contemporary America. When facilitated by a lax media, and encouraged by self-serving politicos, there seem to be no limits to their capacity for self-censorship. Consider the most recent example of President Donald Trump's sexual abuses: E. Jean Carroll's highly graphic and persuasive description of Trump's assault on her in Bergdorf's. It survived little more than one or two news cycles.

Consider this, too, re. Epstein: The New Yorker gave us this bold cover story about the defense of Alan Dershowitz the notorious legal defender of unsavory types who was an Epstein attorney and who has been identified by at least one of Epstein's accusers as a participant in statutory rape. If you are having difficulty figuring out why the rush to provide him with several thousand words for self-justification and self-promotion, then I have a not-so-green island to sell you.

I personally have no hypotheses to offer in way of explanation. The silence of the arch 'feminist' militants is a mystery to me.

Michael Brenner is a professor of international affairs at the University of Pittsburgh. [email protected].


Jill , August 24, 2019 at 12:35

Michael,

Women don't deserve "mild" unwanted touching either. I hope maybe next time, that part of your article could be set aside. Also, I feel that your use of the term "arch "feminist" militants" is a mistake. I think you are asking a good question but this article seems more like a pejorative swipe at feminists than an actual inquiry when you use that phrase.

To answer your question plainly– women are neither worse nor better than men. As you must know, the movement for racial equality in the 60s was full of incredible sexism and cruelty by revolutionary men towards their sisters in the movement. Stokely Carmichael stated: 'the only position for women in SNCC is prone." MLK had some real problems with women. In other words, these men were hypocrites. They were both good and bad. Most movements for social change are filled with hypocrisy. There is freedom for some but not for all. This is shameful and I believe it is why revolutions never achieve their aim. Freedom must be for every person, not just one's chosen "worthy" group.

Women in the feminist movement also act shamefully when they fail to support justice for every abuse victim. Notice that you have difficulty criticizing Keiller (who also supports torture) and Franken because you like them. You are willing to minimize their actions because their politics and person meet your approval. This is what Democratic women are doing and have done when confronted by the victims of Bill and Hillary Clinton. Many Democratic women like this couple. They agree with their politics and they are willing to ignore wrongdoing by them because of that fact.

Your piece in a very real way, answers your own question. People won't see injustice in those whom they like. It's easier to pass it on by or minimize it. This is exactly the attitude we must all challenge inside ourselves. Until we do, until we are willing to admit to wrongdoing by those whom we like and agree with, abuse will continue.

Right, left or center– wrong is wrong. The abuse of women, men and children cannot be tolerated.

Truth , August 24, 2019 at 11:58

The pedophilia is satanic brought to usa by the past and present British Royals which epstein was and Andrew still is. Clinto Kerry and Rodham families as well. Do some real background on their geneology if you can. Scrubbing has eliminated most. Memory dates them all to B.C. druids and Earls in England.

Remember Stallones Movie Cobra? He was giving you hints. As he always has in the movies he writes. Broward county, Fla is home to the leaders the Bronfmans and their protégé D Wasserman.

Guy , August 24, 2019 at 10:21

The arrest of Jeffrey Epstein was an opportunity for all Americans to have a good look at themselves but it did not last long. Someone, some intelligence agency decided that it was too painful to expose the higher ups and it will do to show the world the corruption involved in the whole affair .So Epstein is now gone. The whole sordid affair is no more .No more to be said .Move on folks ,what was the score last night at that baseball game ?

Gerry L Forbes , August 24, 2019 at 05:21

Professor Brenner is a quick study, noticing the dog that didn't bark. Others have pointed out that MeToo might not even be a dog (a well-trained poodle at best) but I am concerned that all these extralegal groups might be part of a more insidious strategy: destroying the rule of law and the protections it provides.

MeToo overturns the presumption of innocence making one guilty until proven innocent, inciting mob rule.

Antifa legitimizes force as speech, just what the fascists want.

Counterprotests seek to restrict freedom of speech when the worst thing the speakers can do for their cause is express their views.

Intelligence and law enforcement are always infiltrating organisations seeking social change through legal means. In Britain an undercover policeman even married an organizer in the course of his duties. (a Stasi trick although one presumes the tactic is timeless).

A possible scenario: one or more of Trump's strategies implodes causing civil unrest. Heavy-handed response leads to full-blown riots. Americans do what they are supposed to and elect Biden whose advancing dementia only makes things worse. Cities burn. Martial law is declared. Prison labour builds walls paid for by Mexico and Canada (Seriously. We don't want millions of self-righteous refugees blithering cluelessly about Thoreau's Civil Disobedience. Had enough of that during the Vietnam war. And the Chinese and Indians won't stand for hordes of white, black and latino people diluting their influence).

Good luck!

Realist , August 24, 2019 at 02:30

It looks for all the world that Epstein was basically pimping for the elitist of the insider elites throughout the capitalist universe. Sex trafficking has always been a big money-maker, even amongst street people, common reprobates and the clergy. The rich and powerful have fixers like Epstein to take care of all their nasty business. Does anyone think that muckety-mucks in high finance, the media monopoly, law enforcement, the courts, the highest levels of government and even some prominent female rainmakers may not have been among the beneficiaries of this service industry?

It doesn't surprise me one bit that those who were saved by Epstain's demise would exercise their power and influence to make sure things were quickly "resolved" and the public calmed. The tried and true remedy has always been for the media to simply change the subject. There is certainly no way they are pinning this one on Putin, so it will quickly be forgotten and lost down the memory hole. They don't even need to put on a charade about reforming the system because the relevant laws are already on the books. The real reform will be that Epstain's replacement will make sure that no future service providers ever live long enough to file any legal complaints.

Douglas Schorr , August 23, 2019 at 20:17

Dang I didn't get past

'Boko Haram's rampages and the crimes of the Islamic State against the Yazidis'.

Aren't both products of the US. Second, surely a choice of just one American we'll-bring-you-democracy action over the last 20 years is far worse than Boko Haram? Indications to date are Epstein has been 'protected' by Rep and Dem since the early 80s, if not before.

Amanda , August 23, 2019 at 20:00

Thanks for posting on this.

Well, I'm actually not surprised–I always had the sense that the whole "MeToo" movement was controlled behind the scenes. Seems like it was quite useful when Kavanaugh was nominated for the Supreme Court (and I'm not a supporter of him–he's a Bushy and I'm pretty sure he had something to do with that Patriot Act), and Allyssa Milano was ready to go in telling us "we must believe all women" with regard to Dr. Chrissy Fraud and Julie Swetnick.

But they are interestingly quiet right now about the whole Epstein saga, and of course, there were no signs of support on the Friday before Epstein's supposed death, when there was a document drop, which indicated his victims named George Mitchell (D) and Bill Richardson (D) as men they were forced to have sex with. I think they may have issued a quick denial and then the MSM quickly moved away from it,never to be heard of again.

JWalters , August 23, 2019 at 18:13

Thanks to CN and Michael Brenner for maintaining attention on this extremely important topic. And while the #MeToo people are an understandable focus, the silence is deafening across the board. The politicians are all silent. The major news figures are silent. It's as if nobody had pulled back the curtain on the sociopaths who rule our society.

For convenience in posting to other sites, here is a link to the stunning CN interview with Whitney Webb on the Epstein case and its MANY ramifications.
"Whitney Webb in-depth history of Jeffrey Epstein"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBN7Xqf7rWI

Also, here is a series of in-depth reports on how the prosecution of Epstein was blocked by higher-ups at the state and federal levels. Jake Morphonios is an excellent, experienced investigator (so good he is being thrashed by YouTube).
https://www.blackstoneintel.com/podcast

bardamu , August 23, 2019 at 17:28

Just an idea --

A considerable factor in the Epstein case is not his individual perversity or crimes, but hierarchy and corruption, not just the corruption of the sexuality but the use of the sexuality in cementing, rewarding, and coercing corruption.

Perhaps not everyone who is concerned about sexual abuse is concerned about corruption and hierarchy in general. Perhaps not everyone concerned about sexual abuse even considers that hierarchy, with all its corruptions, is so much as unnecessary. For such people, the fact or apparent fact that Epstein is dead resolves matters insofar as they might be resolved–with all the hierarchy and its corruption in place, whatever such people may think of all that.

There is no way that Epstein could have had the type of business that he is widely regarded as having had without the extensive and ongoing involvement of both major political parties and major media entities.

So there will be no extensive and authentic push for investigation by Democrats, Republicans, or the push-style mass media that are allied to them. There is not likely to be a lot of investigation by foreign entities because those not allied with the above positions mostly do not find corruption in the United States to be news.

It seems that some who concern themselves with hierarchy might be principally concerned not with reducing hierarchy, but with changing which personnel or which demographics are favored.

It is a sad thing to recognize that one has fewer allies than one imagined. But it seems that for very many of us, the discoveries of the last few years have all been in this direction.

Seasoned Skeptic , August 23, 2019 at 16:37

The same corporate media behind the muted outrage response to the trafficking of girls and the anodyne narrative of Epstein's death just spent more than two years trying to convince the world that it was the Russians, not the fossilized Electoral College, that put Donald Trump into the Whitehouse based soley on rumor, suggestion, inference and accusations from well known liars and frauds

The same who brought us non existent WMDs in Iraq and moderate rebels and White Helmet rescuers in Syria, just to name a few more recent state sponsored fabrications. Justice and truth don't factor into the agenda of the swine who run our plutocracy.

I believe this horror story will be papered over, many accusers and collaborators will meet the same fate as Karen Silkwood and the think tanks and mainstream media talking heads will continue to bandy about the conspiracy theory trope while continuing to endorse the official false claims of the political establishment.

Stephen P , August 23, 2019 at 16:15

Whitney Webb has posted her next installment: https://www.mintpressnews.com/genesis-jeffrey-epstein-bill-clinton-relationship/261455/

Iowa Scribe , August 23, 2019 at 15:30

Gilad Atzmon's critique is far more substantive and more interesting, in part because he doesn't stoop to blaming class or feminists for the "missing howls of outrage" and "dearth of MeToo denunciations".

http://www.unz.com/gatzmon/predators-united/

"Not Just Weinstein: The Year #MeToo Rocked and Shocked the Jewish World" was the title of a 2018 Haaretz article that reviewed the large number of Jews involved in sex scandals that year. "Over the past year," Haartez wrote, "a high number of powerful Jewish men have been accused of sexual misconduct. While it has provided fodder for anti-Semites, activists say addressing the problem is vital."

Haaretz listed some of the prominent Jewish men accused of predatory sexual behaviour. "In addition to (Harvey) Weinstein and (Leon) Wieseltier, the list of Jewish men implicated in #MeToo over the past 12 months includes former Democratic senator Al Franken; ousted CBS chief Les Moonves; actors Dustin Hoffman, Jeffrey Tambor and Jeremy Piven; directors Woody Allen, James Toback and Brett Ratner; playwright Israel Horowitz; journalists Mark Halperin and Michael Oreskes; conductor James Levine; and radio show hosts Leonard Lopate and Jonathan Schwartz."

Apparently someone decided to 'clean the swamp'. Harvey Weinstein was just an early bird. In 2018 we also learned about the Nxivm sex cult and the role of Clare Bronfman at its centre. The Jewish Forward wrote that Nxivm's leader attracted "several prominent figures to his group, including heiress Clare Bronfman, who pleaded guilty in April to credit card fraud and harbouring an undocumented immigrant who provided unpaid "labor and services."

Bronfman is the daughter of the legendary ultra Zionist billionaire Edgar Bronfman (1929 –2013) who was president of the World Jewish Congress. In his obituary, Edgar Bronfman was described by Haaretz as "prince of the Jews." His daughter has been ordered to pay a penalty of $6 million out of her $200 million fortune, and she faces up to two years in prison.

When it seemed the Jewish universe couldn't cope with any more scandals involving predatory sexual behaviour, the Epstein affair resurfaced. The Jeffrey Epstein spectacle is one of the biggest of its kind in the history of America ensnaring presidents and prime ministers. Some of the world's most influential men in cultural, financial and academic fields are allegedly implicated in predatory behaviour with underage girls. And it doesn't take a genius to observe that the Epstein drama is, unfortunately, a 'Jewish drama.'

Bloomberg, not exactly an 'anti-Semitic' outlet, dug into The Complicated Orbit of Jeffrey Epstein. Zionist enthusiast Leslie Wexner was identified as Epstein's 'patron'. The Jewish virtual library informs us that Wexner "often support[s] .. Jewish projects. He serves as Honorary Vice Chairman of the Board of Congregation Aguda Achim [And] established the Wexner Foundation, which runs both a Graduate Fellowship and an Israel Fellowship Program."

Bloomberg lists the following as amongst Epstein's 'business partners': Harvey Weinstein, Mort Zuckerman, Donny Deutsch, Nelson Peltz, Ehud Barak and Ponzi aficionado Steven Hoffenberg.

Ghislaine Maxwell, the daughter of notorious Zionist pension plunderer Robert Maxwell, is described by Bloomberg as Epstein's 'Inner Circle.' And then there is Alan Dershowitz who has been labouring tirelessly to try to convince the American media and anyone else willing to listen that he didn't have sex with underage girls.

Again I find myself admitting that the list of Jewish names surrounding an unsavoury character, this time Epstein, resembles my Bar Mitzvah's guest list: a lot of Jewish names with just a few goyim at the margin.

This raises critical questions, the most elementary of which is, why? Why are so many Jewish men currently in the news in connection with sexually predatory behaviour? What is it about these rich and influential people that pushes them over the edge?

And there are deeper questions that beg attention. Why is it that with so many Jews in academia and media ordinarily so clever in explaining in a 'professorial manner' the psychology and sociology behind every world development and political shift, not one has volunteered to explain the cultural, ideological and spiritual continuum between Weinstein and Epstein and beyond? How is it that the academics and think tanks that are so adept in analysing 'cultural clashes' and, as they call it, 'Islamofascism,' are unwilling to analyse the roots of the cultural crisis at the core of the Epstein saga?

And I must extend this inquiry just one step further, why does the Jewish solidarity industry that cares so much for Palestine, Immigrants, the Civil Rights Movement and LGBT issues remain silent when it comes to the crimes committed, and on a mass scale, against underage girls just a few blocks from JVP's New York headquarters?

Litchfield , August 23, 2019 at 17:08

Uh, wait just a minute.
Good post up until this:

"why does the Jewish solidarity industry that cares so much for [1]Palestine, [2]Immigrants, the [3]Civil Rights Movement and [4]LGBT issues remain silent when it comes to the crimes committed, and on a mass scale, against underage girls just a few blocks from JVP's New York headquarters?"

Quick IQ test: of the four issues named, which one does not belong?
Yep, number 1.
These other groups are not known for their vocal or otherwise support of Palestine or, more precisely, the civil, political, property, and human rights of Palestinians.

This sentence sure looks like a misdirection game. Unless "cares for Palestine" actually is meant to mean, "cares for fighting indigenous rights in Palestine."

Anarcissie , August 23, 2019 at 12:57

This is all pretty stupid. #metoo was about people with legitimate complaints being ignored. 'Howls of outrage' were appropriate to get the needed attention. The Epstein business is hardly being ignored and involves so many bigwigs that its ramifications and effects are only beginning to be known. Cops, lawyers, journalists, and conspiracy theorists are on the case. So what are you all, including the author, talking about at such length?

Seamus Padraig , August 23, 2019 at 13:21

So, why hasn't Ghislane Maxwell been arrested yet? What's your theory there?

0ccupy on! , August 23, 2019 at 13:48

Dear Anarcissie, Puhleeze! You're comparing what Epstein 'allegedly' did with #MeToo's Al Franken's 'alleged' unwanted French kiss? Where is your sense of proportion?

Litchfield , August 23, 2019 at 15:26

In response to Anarcisse, all I can do is tell her to reread the article.

Why isn't #MeToo using its political and PR muscle to keep the pressure on Bill Barr to conduct a genuine investigation, which would include interrogating a number of big-wigs and also, Primus inter pares, Ghislaine Maxwell?

Until we see Maxwell subpoena'd and compelled to appear for questioning, we in the media peanut gallery will continue to assume that no serious investigation is to be espied in our crystal balls.

Re "Cops, lawyers, journalists, and conspiracy theorists are on the case. So what are you all, including the author, talking about at such length?"
This sounds a bit trollish (and sarcastic) to me, in particular the grouping "cops, lawyers, journalists and conspiracy theorists."
What we actually need is a wide-ranging and deep-delving investigation by the DOJ or by Congress. We need to get to the bottom of Epstein's ties to various intelligence communities. We need see chapter and verse as to how the sex trafficking interfaced with intelligence work. We need to know what is hidden under concrete at Little Saint James Island. Among other things. A genuine investigation, or multiple investigations, might allow the "ct" phrase to be retired in connection with this complex of crimes as it would uncover genuine evidence. Failing such a genuine investigation it can be inferred that evidence is being destroyed and/or suppressed and/or not developed (e.g., via under-oath questioning).

It is decidedly odd that Anarcisse thinks that "the case" can be adequately pursued by the four groups she names. "Cops"?

Karenvista , August 23, 2019 at 19:43

Unfortunately, of fortunately for some, William "Bill" Barr was involved in Iran-Contra and the Reagan/Bush Administration's dirty wars that not only illegally funded our death squads in Central America but also imported cocaine and promoted crack. As a side benefit, they also captured and trafficked in kids from the region, so anyone counting on him will be sadly disappointed.

See Whitney Webb https://www.mintpressnews.com/shocking-origins-jeffrey-epstein-blackmail-roy-cohn/260621/

Mary Vogt , August 23, 2019 at 12:51

Thank you for this. It's insane that the average person is not screaming for justice and for the disbanding of sex trafficking rings and the jailing of those participating and running them. Simply insane. And now, a woman who was going to Washington DC to testify against traffickers has 'disappeared'. I can't even find her disappearance, although reported by friends on social media, in the news at all. Isn't that interesting?

Bob In Portland , August 23, 2019 at 12:32

"Target" is the word. Franken was clearly an attempt by the Democratic leadership to push the party farther to the right. Better to have someone in the Senate to vote for wars and ignore social issues. This cleansing, on the surface, looked like a right-wing attack on Franken, check out the "complainants". But who did the DNC back during the primaries?

All sorts of veterans of the military-industrial complex, from the CIA through the military Buttigieg is Naval intelligence and worked in Afghanistan trying to track down the financing of the Taliban. Seems to me that the mystery of where the money's coming from could be easily answered by asking the soldiers who are guarding the opium fields. In the 2018 Democratic primaries the DNC backed over fifty "former" intelligence/military/Department of State et al.

Much of the suspicions about the Epstein case involve really high-end politicians, to include two Presidents. There are hints of Epstein's connections to Mossad. That information is even more valuable to the CIA, who would rather embarrass someone out of office than kill them. Someone thought it was time to pull the plug on him, and it didn't happen because of a sudden outrage by progressive women. Even Gloria Steinem, the woman chosen by the CIA to lead their faction of the feminist movement, is silent.

And, of course, many iconic feminist groups depend on the financing of the powerful. Realpolitik. Compromise everybody.

Maricata , August 23, 2019 at 12:29

Need we forget that our 'military contractors', like DynCorp have been found enslaving women in Kuwait, sexually raping them in Bosnia? Perhaps it is not that we forgot, perhaps it is that we never knew. https://www.mintpressnews.com/lawsuit-military-contractor-enslaved-american-employees-sewage-flooded-barracks-tent-cities/250994/

Eddie , August 23, 2019 at 12:21

The Me Too movement was an identity politics scheme initiated by elite bourgeois women actresses and their wannabes. From its very beginning , these well-to-do so-called liberals in the Democratic party had no interest in the plight of working class women. The working class victims of the neighbors and the country-club set of the Me Too leadership did not fit into the desired profile of the rich and spoiled.

Those on the roster of the status-seeking rich women do not have time for those who do not share their glamour and Beverly Hills addresses. Those who suffer the mundane and daily sexual harassment and outright sexual assault at their blue-color jobs just don't fit in with "right" crowd to be worthy of the fake Me Too outrage.

Clark M Shanahan , August 23, 2019 at 11:47

You said it so well, Mr Brenner. Thanks, My disgust started with the DNC's copyrighting the term "RESISTANCE". I agree totally w/ML on MeToo being a reactionary movement.

from an earlier comment I made on exclusionary politics:
"What about that BS imbroglio over the Women's March and Farrakhan
Should we have asked all Jewish participants to denounce apartheid Israel, before being allowed to take part..?"
(the DNC retracted their $$$ at that time.)

Pablo Diablo , August 23, 2019 at 11:31

HYPOCRISY? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.

joel , August 23, 2019 at 11:17

The list of names in Epstein's black book reads like a who's who of the political, media, finance, and entertainment establishment of the past thirty years. Virtually all of them are in there. The media and politicians do not want the public dwelling on the revelation that the neoliberal ruling elite is one big gang of child rapists.

ROBERT B HAVERS , August 23, 2019 at 15:43

Isn't it a little surprising that these who's who's didn't know that their sexually deviant behavior wasn't being recorded for the purposes of blackmail. And these are supposed to be the brightest the species has to offer.

lysias , August 24, 2019 at 07:59

Not surprising if being compromised was a necessary preliminary to their careers being advanced.

Helga I. Fellay , August 23, 2019 at 11:17

This only confirms what I suspected about the Me,Too movement from the very start – that it is not a genuine grassroots movement by women, but rather a political tool the "politically correct" Establishment party invented as a weapon to destroy powerful men of the Opposition.

ML , August 23, 2019 at 09:56

It is about class. #Me too was a reactionary moment at its core- not a movement, a moment of the "better classes." In one telling comment on a recent Consortium News Epstein article, a poster sited a Vanity Fair piece and claimed Lady Ghislaine had once called these poor girls "trash." You know, throwaway children so a waif on a street corner late at night or working in a spa gets trafficked and the bourgeoisie and the upper classes "don't really care, do you?" (Melania's jacket was a clue.)

But a Hollywood starlet gets patted on her bum? The horrors. It's about class -- always has been, always will be. If the burgeoning underclass in their precarity doesn't one day choose to rise up en masse, I will be disappointed. And I am prepared for disappointment.

Ghost Ship , August 23, 2019 at 06:11

"we America, the last best hope of humankind"
Nah, not really, the United States is just like any other country and the sooner USians realize this the better for everyone including USians.

Emma Peele , August 23, 2019 at 03:17

#MeToo was silent against the Clintons whose past with Epstein and brought slavery back to Libya was a crime against humanity.

Speaks volumes

Zhu , August 23, 2019 at 02:49

We Americans kill on an industrial scale; why wouldn't we F* ** on an industrial scale too? And the victims are all poor people.

jsinton , August 23, 2019 at 00:50

The missing howls can be explained easily. The military-industrial-congressional-corporate-media complex does not wish them to be.

LarcoMarco , August 23, 2019 at 00:45

It's been a month and a half since Nancy Pelosi's daughter said, "Quite likely, some of our faves are implicated."

robert e williamson jr , August 22, 2019 at 23:42

Professor Brenner's choice of topic here is somewhat suspect as far as I can tell. Given his professional background I would expect him to focus on Jeff Epstein's not so stellar career on Wall Street and the resulting melt down of the world economy after the subprime mortgage debacle. Those topics more aligned with his forte. But nothing on that.

Instead he turns his focus to criticize the ME TOO movement and others, "Why no howling?". He blew it, he seems to have made a pretty grievous error. I

He flirts with discussing MOSSAD and CIA and their potential involvement in this story quickly moving on to provide a hot link to lend exposure to the extremely troubling history of Alan Dershowitz and his ties to Jeff Esptein.

Chose the link and read the story. His effort here to me is puzzling, unless he sees this as him "howling".

If in fact Brenner is virtue signaling he has failed himself miserably. What he has submitted here seems to openly blame victims and their advocates and appears to be his attempt distance himself from "elite status"by naming a few caught up in this story. Given his profile at The Globalist:

https://www.theglobalsist.com/contribtors/micheal-p-brenner/

he seems to travel in some very elitist circles himself.

Craig rudholm , August 22, 2019 at 21:47

It breaks my heart that the only comment is about the article rather than the issue addressed. Sexual predators, no matter their sex, economic or social stature, politics, nationality or racial background are heartless, soulless, vampires. Blood suckers. My guess is that it is just hard to admit we humans have a shadowy side, part of which is envy of those who appreciates to get away with it.

Gregory Herr , August 22, 2019 at 20:33

"Why have the howls of outrage not echoed through the media? Why has the trumpet's call to action been silent? Why haven't the halls of Congress resounded with denunciation and the demands for justice?"

The monolithic, feckless "media" got the same memo Acosta did. "Congress" and conceptions of "justice" are as oil and water. And besides, they don't f*** with the "well-connected".

AnneR , August 23, 2019 at 08:33

In my opinion, admittedly not worth the time taken to express it, Mr Brenner has raised a thought-provoking point. Where indeed is the pious Me Too lot. And as he indicates the vast majority in/of the Me Too "movement" were among the privileged, the bourgeoisie. So too the Me Too's much heralded victims.

But the victims of human trafficking (mainly for sex, though not always), whether children, adolescents, young adults – well, they're clearly *not* from the same social class, not of the bourgeoisie. They and the treatment, abuse of them matter less, it would seem than straying hands on the backs, bums of adult females within the upper middle classes. Especially when that abuse is at the hands of someone from the bourgeoisie, particularly from that segment of the haute bourgeoisie within the ruling elites.

The ruling elites (and CIA-Mossad) simply want this business buried so that the circus and the information flowing from it can continue through other means Me Too has no interest, nothing to be gained from, no ax to grind in this affair – apparently. Which would seem to indicate that it was as shallow and spiteful as it appeared in the main.

I'm not saying that sexual assault should ever be ignored, that females who are forced to submit to sex – rape, surely?- in order to work, continue working should not have justice. Indeed they should and the men who do such things should not only lose their jobs but also spend a nice lengthy time in a real prison. But Me Too seemed to be more about identity politics rather than really changing societal and police/court room attitudes toward rape and sexual assault.

That such as Epstein was allowed, given the nod and wink, to carry on as he had and that the Me Too movement has so far been silent about the whole business does indeed suggest that the women involved in that so-called movement were had motives other than really wanting a big change in socio-cultural attitudes toward and about male-female relationships, interactions, conceptions of each other.

Steve , August 23, 2019 at 13:18

The reason for MeToo disinterest is because they are a CIA controlled operation.

Seamus Padraig , August 23, 2019 at 13:25

"#MeToo ignoring the Clintons was a huge oversight indeed."

Yup. It was about as big an oversight as BLM giving Hillary "Super-predators" Clinton a pass during the 2016 campaign, while protesting against Bernie Sanders.

Bob In Portland , August 23, 2019 at 18:17

Whether or not Clinton abused Lewinsky is debatable, the question being consensuality, but what is clear is that there were intelligence operatives all around the case, which always points to others beyond the stage actors the public sees pulling the strings. Lucianne Goldberg has been trying to get dirt on Democratic presidents from 1960 on, when she tried to get close to JFK before settling for Johnson. In 1972 she worked for the North American Newspaper Alliance, a CIA front, looking for dirt in the McGovern campaign. Lewinsky's "friend", Linda Tripp, has a military intelligence background. It appears to me that the Lewinsky scandal was planned to happen.

I suspect that Bill was easy to hook for Epstein's operation.

Herman , August 23, 2019 at 12:31

Tom Kath, the message I took from the article is that there are too many third rails that can be touched and there is not an attempt to find out the truth about possible widespread and heinous criminality. The way Epstein did jail time in the first instance should have touched the antennae of investigative journalists. Perhaps they will dig deeper but Mister Brenner is right to be suspicious. In fairness it is too early to starting pointing fingers but it is probable that what we know will be as far as it goes..

Maricata , August 23, 2019 at 12:32

Indignation at the failure of others might be suspect, but not rational criticism. In fact, lack of rational critique is what is suspect.

In 2003 I saw it with my own eyes and the founder of this website founded it as a venue where the truth could be told. Not madness, disinformation or no information but the real story. Robert Parry left Washington "Journalism" after he saw a coalescing group think during the Iran Contra hearings as a group think settled in Washington and all journalists that were not on point felt the sharp end of it. At the end Bob had shown a great amount of evidence that CIA Chief Bush met with Iranian officials in the fall of 1979 and arrangements were made to prolong the captivity of the hostages until after the election.

The fact that the hostages were released to the exact minute that Reagan was sworn in was a gift from the Iranians but not one paper asked one question. When the Iran Contra hearings got close to figuring out that the arms for money to fight the Sandinistas in Nicaragua went way back and it was becoming clear that the president and vice president might be involved both democrats and republicans on the hearing abruptly shut it down without reason.

You might ask yourself then "Where is the public outcry". Well my own state of mind at the time told me that what just happened was obviously not just a coincidence and the lame story that the Iranians waited until the minute that Reagan was sworn in because they were afraid of him was a total pile of dung. Why would the Iranians want in such a highly visible way for all to see their capitulation to Reagan and show the World their fear. But that's the story they ran with and soon all was forgotten.

If you still do not have a clue then you should read the many excellent articles in the archives of Robert Parry and his quests to uncover the truth and tell the stories that official Washington just refused to do.

[Aug 24, 2019] 200PM Water Cooler 8-23-2019 naked capitalism

Aug 24, 2019 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

anon in so cal , August 23, 2019 at 6:27 pm

Re: Jeffrey Epstein:

"From "Spook Air" to the "Lolita Express": The Genesis and Evolution of the Jeffrey Epstein-Bill Clinton Relationship"

by Whitney Webb

"Far from being the work of a single political party, intelligence agency or country, the power structure revealed by the network connected to Epstein is nothing less than a criminal enterprise that is willing to use and abuse children in the pursuit of ever more power, wealth and control ..

in this four-part series, "The Jeffrey Epstein Scandal: Too Big to Fail," MintPress has revealed that Epstein's activities -- a sexual blackmail operation involving minors and connected to intelligence agencies -- was one of many such operations that have taken place for decades, developing from the nexus forged between the CIA, organized crime and Israeli intelligence shortly after World War II .

.the final installment of this series will focus on Democratic politicians, namely the Clinton family, and their ties to this same network as well as Jeffrey Epstein.

The Clintons' own involvement in Iran-Contra revolved around the covert activities at Arkansas' Mena Airport, which involved the CIA front company Southern Air Transport and occurred while Clinton was governor. Just a few years into the Clinton presidential administration, Leslie Wexner and Jeffrey Epstein would play a major role in Southern Air Transport's relocation to Columbus, Ohio, leading to concerns among top Ohio officials that both men were not only working with the CIA, but that Wexner's company, The Limited, sought to use the CIA-linked airline for smuggling.

During that same period of time, Epstein had already forged close ties to important Clinton White House officials and prominent Clinton donors like Lynn Forester de Rothschild and made several personal visits to the official presidential residence .."

https://twitter.com/_whitneywebb/status/1164967483964624897?s=20

https://www.mintpressnews.com/genesis-jeffrey-epstein-bill-clinton-relationship/261455/

pjay , August 23, 2019 at 8:01 pm

The Webb article is a tour-de-force, as is the series itself. I'm not sure she connects all the dots, but she certainly identifies a sh**load of them. Particularly noteworthy is her discussion of the PROMIS software scandal in relation to Robert Maxwell and later events; few people seem to know about that. She also makes clear that the Clintons have been up to their eyeballs in slime since their days in Arkansas. Much more work to be done, but Webb throws out many clues for future investigation. I'm sure the NYT will get right on it.

[Aug 24, 2019] The outrage being expressed in reaction to Wexler and his company's implicit support for organized pedophilia and abuse of young women is deafening but no arrest were made

Aug 24, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

JARED , Aug 22 2019 18:51 utc | 14

The outrage being expressed in reaction to Wexler and his company's implicit support for organized pedophilia and abuse of young women is deafening - I can't hear anything. No protest?
Where are the advocates for fair and just treament of women?
Seems that all goes to wayside when politics does not align.
Vote for the Pedocrats.

Mina , Aug 22 2019 19:42 utc | 25

No protests in the US? When all the laws seem to be taylored to protect the wealthy and the criminals?
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jeffrey-epstein-will-trust-victims_n_5d5e9cdfe4b02cc97c898b20
What of the fight against money laundering and off shore finances?

[Aug 22, 2019] Epstein's Purported Madam Now a Focus in Sex Abuse Cases

Maxwell might well be prosecutors' next main target and she could potentially name others connected to the multimillionaire.
Aug 22, 2019 | www.theepochtimes.com

"She would tell me, I am going to take care of the house," Alessi said in the deposition, adding later that he drove Maxwell to spas around South Florida to look for young women who could do "massages" for Epstein -- their code for sexual acts.

"I remember one occasion or two occasions she would say to me, 'Juan, give me a list of all the spas in Palm Beach County,'" Alessi said. "And I will drive her from one to the other one."

In one of the lawsuits, Virginia Roberts Giuffre laid out in detail what was believed to be Maxwell's role in Epstein's alleged sex trafficking ring, which other women have echoed in similar claims. Giuffre, 15 at the time, says she was working at a Mar-a-Lago club when she was approached by Maxwell about a way to earn good money: learn massage therapy and get to know Epstein as a man who could give her a bright future.

Giuffre says in a sworn affidavit that she was trained by Maxwell and Epstein to become "everything a man wanted me to be" and that she was flown on Epstein's private planes to his properties in New Mexico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, Paris, and New York.

[Aug 22, 2019] New Indictments Expected in Wake of Epstein's Death, Lawyers Say

Aug 22, 2019 | www.theepochtimes.com

Two criminal defense attorneys told The Epoch Times that if the government was investigating Epstein to such a degree that they were able to make an arrest, it can be assumed that federal prosecutors in New York were also gathering evidence on those in his inner circle.

One attorney specifically mentioned the disgraced financier's former girlfriend, British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell , who allegedly assisted Epstein in luring minors. He said Maxwell would be prosecutors' next main target and she could potentially name others connected to the multimillionaire.

"She's going down. She's going to take everybody with her," Jeffery Greco, a New York criminal defense lawyer and former prosecutor, said in a phone call. "They are going to ask her, 'Who else did you provide these girls to?' I think that she is going to start talking."

"Remember, it's just pieces to a puzzle, so she may not know everything. But they are going to use her to place the people at those parties, so if she can say, 'I was there on this date and this senator and so-and-so was there,' that will be enough for them to get them involved."

Epstein often hosted parties at his Upper East Side mansion in New York City . He owned the property, which has been valued at $77 million, through an LLC. The seven-story building is located on East 71st Street, between Fifth and Madison avenues.

Nearly 2,000 pages of documents relating to Epstein were unsealed on Aug. 9, revealing allegations against a number of rich and powerful men, just a day before his apparent suicide. The court documents, from a lawsuit by one of Epstein's accusers, Virginia Giuffre, listed new names allegedly involved in Epstein's trafficking ring and more information on the role Maxwell played.

In a 2016 deposition, Giuffre claimed she was directed by Maxwell to have sex with a number of powerful men.

Greco believes the biggest implication of Epstein's death is that there will be "more and more indictments coming down." He said the government will be pressured to file "additional charges" against "additional people" and will be more aggressive in their methods.

"I think there is this extra pressure on the government now to really focus on these [unnamed] co-conspirators, no matter how high up because it's become so public," he said.

According to court documents , Epstein sexually exploited and abused dozens of minor girls at his homes in New York City and in Palm Beach, Florida, among other locations. Since his death, a slew of investigations have been opened or demanded into his death. The official autopsy result has been delayed , "pending further information at this time."

Julie Rendelman, a New York criminal defense attorney and former homicide prosecutor, said those who helped Epstein or assisted him along the way are now going to be the "focus of the future investigations" and will be "kind of the face of the Epstein case, instead of him."

[Aug 22, 2019] Justice Department Sat on Mountain of Epstein Evidence for 10 Years

Aug 22, 2019 | www.theepochtimes.com

"New evidence." An "assist" from journalists. Don't believe it.

The New York prosecutors didn't take action after reading a newspaper article about a game-changing piece of evidence. Compare the 2007 non-prosecution agreement with the new indictment. Both address sex trafficking of children. The Department of Justice (DOJ) has been sitting on mountains of evidence confirming Epstein's abuse of young girls for more than 10 years.

The "assist" was instead a wave of public outrage upon the discovery of how the Justice Department and Florida prosecutors protected a child sex offender with a lenient plea deal, hid the details from the victims and the public, and failed to prosecute the women who helped Epstein find, groom, and exploit children.

What did the Justice Department have on Epstein? The answers can be found in a 2008 lawsuit in which two of Epstein's alleged victims in Doe v. U.S. sued the United States for violating their rights under the federal Crime Victims' Rights Act. In particular, they claimed the government violated their right to confer during the negotiation of the non-prosecution agreement and failed to inform the victims that Epstein's state plea would end the federal case. The victims also claimed the government "violated their right to be treated with fairness" by concealing the non-prosecution agreement.

Judge Kenneth Marra sided with the victims on Feb. 21, ruling that the Justice Department violated the victims' rights under the Crime Victims' Rights Act. The opinion ( pdf ) set forth the DOJ's conspiracy with Epstein's lawyers to deceive the victims. Some of those who participated in the plea deal at the local level have offered justifications. As the Miami Herald's Julie Brown reported :

"Assistant U.S. Attorney [Marie] Villafaña, in court papers, said that prosecutors used their 'best efforts' to comply with the Crime Victims' Rights Act, but exercised their 'prosecutorial discretion' when they chose not to notify the victims.

"The reasoning went like this: The non-prosecution deal had a restitution clause that provided the girls a chance to seek compensation from Epstein. Had the deal fallen through, necessitating a trial, Epstein's lawyers might have used the prior restitution clause to undermine the girls' credibility as witnesses, by claiming they had exaggerated Epstein's behavior in hopes of cashing in."

These excuses fall flat. The volume of evidence that the DOJ had on Epstein and his criminal enterprise was extensive. For example, privilege logs filed by the prosecutors in the Doe case show they had records covering every part of Epstein's life, including his finances, corporate records, flight logs, and phone calls with conspirators.

When it came to the victims, the evidence was overwhelming. The DOJ had an FBI file entitled "Summary of Sexual Activity," containing an analysis of victim-specific information. This included a chart showing phone calls, travel, and grand jury evidence relevant to possible charges. Records show this involved at least nine potential victims. The DOJ was also in possession of FBI reports of interviews of victims and witnesses in New York back in March 2008.

Court records also revealed the DOJ had jury transcripts, witness and victim interviews, investigative files from the State of Florida and the Palm Beach Police Department, and records on potential co-conspirators.

The evidence was there. What was missing was the institutional desire to prosecute child sexual abuse. The institutions failed the victims. And the media has failed the public by not demanding those in power answer a simple question: "Why?"

The answer to that question lies with the Department of Justice headquarters, also known as "main Justice." They knew. Epstein's criminal defense lawyer Alan Dershowitz has stated that the plea deal "went through numerous levels of approval at main Justice."

The involvement of main Justice was confirmed in the court's Feb. 21 opinion, which states "any requirement that Epstein carry out his obligations under the [non-prosecution agreement] was delayed while he sought higher-level review within the Justice Department."

Further corroboration was provided by Acosta at his July 10 press conference, where he stated that people from main Justice were involved early in the development of the Epstein case and were aware of its progression. Acosta declined to state who at main Justice was involved in the Epstein case. I have names.

Court records show that post-plea-deal decisions went up to Deputy Attorney General Mark Filip, who, according to one former DOJ official, has a stellar reputation. Filip was informed of reasons to approve the continued prosecution of Epstein if he didn't comply with the non-prosecution agreement. Judge Marra noted that Filip reviewed the Epstein matter and determined that federal prosecution of Epstein was appropriate if he did not "comply with the terms and conditions of the agreement."

Another high-level Department of Justice official who had his fingerprints on the case is Andrew Oosterbaan, then-chief of the Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section. A privilege log filed on June 23, 2015, references several emails from 2007 between the Florida federal prosecutors and Oosterbaan regarding an "Epstein meeting" and "changes to the draft indictment and status of plea negotiations."

The same document shows emails from 2008 with Oosterbaan concerning a "continued delay in presenting case to grand jury due to failure to receive decision from D.C., the status of grand jury presentation and ongoing investigation" and a "meeting in DC" concerning the case.

Additionally, these records appear to show Epstein's attorneys reached out to Andy Lourie in May 2007 to arrange a meeting to discuss the Epstein investigation. Lourie was the acting chief of the Public Integrity Section of the Criminal Division in Washington in 2006, before becoming the acting principal deputy assistant attorney general and chief of staff to the Criminal Division by 2007. In 2007, he was also an assistant U.S. attorney in the Southern District of Florida. Lourie was kept in the loop on possible federal coercion and enticement charges, proposed changes to the indictment, "finalizing details with State Attorney's Office," and "final revisions to indictment package." There are also notations of 2007 emails from Florida federal prosecutors to Myesha Braden, who was serving as a trial attorney for the Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section of the DOJ's Criminal Division, regarding securing a pre-indictment consultation contract. This correspondence took place months before Epstein signed the non-prosecution agreement.

In other words, main Justice was well-informed with the investigation and status of the case.

The involvement of main Justice raises the question of who made the ultimate decision on Epstein's sweetheart deal. Was Acosta following orders from main Justice? If so, who issued the orders and how high did it go? Who did Filip and Oosterbaan report to?

And why did main Justice have such an interest in a South Florida child sex offender?

This quote from Acosta, cited in a July 9, 2019, Daily Beast article, may provide the answer: "I was told Epstein 'belonged to intelligence' and to leave it alone."

Views expressed in this article are the opinions of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.

[Aug 21, 2019] Epstein Used Network Of Shell Companies And Associates For Sex-Trafficking Ring, Lawsuits Claim

Aug 21, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Jeffrey Epstein used his tangled web of shell companies as a "brazen and powerful organization" to operate a sex-trafficking ring, according to three new civil lawsuits filed against his $578 million estate.

The new litigation was filed against the estate, its executors and the shell companies themselves, asking for unspecified damages for medical and psychological expenses, trauma, humiliation and other injuries suffered as recently as 2017, according to Bloomberg .

Among the companies named in all three suits are one that owned Epstein's Manhattan mansion until 2011 ; his money-management firm, Financial Trust Co.; and HBRK Associates Inc., which allegedly helped arrange travel for Epstein's accusers between New York and Florida . A Richard Kahn was listed as the registered agent for HBRK in New York state corporate filings in 2008.

Two of the complaints name as a defendant the company that once owned Little St. James , the smaller of Epstein's private islands in the Caribbean. Little St. James was one of the locations from which Epstein ran a " complex commercial sex trafficking and abuse ring , " according to the lawsuits.

...

The defendants include the executors, Darren Indyke and Richard Kahn , lawyers who were directors for a nonprofit Epstein had in the U.S. Virgin Islands called Gratitude America. - Bloomberg

Two of the women, "Katlyn Doe" and "Lisa Doe" claim to have met Epstein when they were seventeen. The third, "Priscilla Doe" says she was 20. The three say Epstein used a " vast enterprise " of associates working "in concert and at his direction, for the purpose of harming teenage girls through sexual exploitation, abuse and trafficking. Notably, the new suits claim that all of this happened after his deal with federal prosecutors in Florida in 2007.

Katlyn and Priscilla claim they were flown to Florida so that Epstein could continue to sexually abuse them while he was on work release from jail . Katlyn claims he promised to pay for medical treatment, while he manipulated Lisa and Priscilla by promising to advance their dance careers - which he did not do, according to the lawsuits.

Epstein's complicit associates include "chefs, butlers, receptionists, schedulers, secretaries, flight attendants, pilots, housekeepers, maids, sex recruiters, drivers and other staff members, " according to the suits.

Katlyn also alleges that in 2013 Epstein paid her $10,000 to marry an associate in order for him to become a legal resident of the United States - stiffing her on another $10,000 she says she was promised upon their divorce. She says she agreed to come to Florida after Epstein promised her a job at his office, and that HRBK coordinated her travel . She added that Epstein forced her to "engage in sexual encounters" with him and another young female at the headquarters of his Florida Science Foundation.

According to University of Oregon law professor Susan Gary, Epstein's death shouldn't serve as an impediment to their civil claims.

" They're still in a good position ," said Gary, adding that the challenge "is proving as required by law that he injured them and they should get benefits for their injury."

After Epstein served 13 months in a Palm Beach jail, he settled over two dozen lawsuits with accusers who say he lured them when they were teenagers to his mansion, where they were coerced into sex and paid to recruit others .

Three of those cases, filed by clients of Brad Edwards, settled for a total of $5.5 million . Edwards is the lawyer for the women who filed the complaints Tuesday in federal court in New York. The plaintiffs aren't named because of the "sensitive sexual nature" of the cases , the suits say.

Late Tuesday, Edwards submitted arguments on behalf of VE, another client who last week sued Epstein's estate and three of the same companies targeted by the latest suits, asking the court to allow her to proceed anonymously.

" Epstein's vast wealth and far reaching connections make it clear that retaliation could be employed against individuals pursuing claims against the estate " and could deter witnesses, according to the filing. VE's anonymity will serve society as well, which " has an interest in eradicating the predatory practices of powerful men against vulnerable, susceptible women. " - Bloomberg

According to Katlyn Doe, Epstein would often remind her of his "extraordinary power to reward and punish."

Meanwhile, plaintiff Lisa Doe says she met Epstein in 2002 when she was 17, when he told her he was "close personal friends with some of the most influential names in dance," and would help her with her career if she taught a dance-based exercise class at the home of a wealthy New York man. Instead, Epstein forced her to engage in sexual encounters and derailed her career aspirations .

Lastly, Priscilla Doe says that an Epstein "recruiter" asked her if she wanted to give the financier a massage in his Manhattan mansion in 2006 when she was 20-years-old.

An associate of his taught her the "exact way" he liked to receive oral sex and Epstein "forced himself on her and took her virginity," according to the complaint. While Epstein was receiving massages, the suit says, he took calls from four people, referred to in the suit as "Important Business Person" 1, 2, 3 and 4.

The plaintiff says she was forced to "engage in commercial sex" on each of more than 20 trips to the Virgin Islands between 2006 and 2012 . - Bloomberg

According to the lawsuits, "Each of the employees and associates were paid through companies believed to have been funded by Jeffrey Epstein and, regardless of such funding, were disciples of Jeffrey Epstein, constantly informing plaintiff and other victims of Jeffrey Epstein's power and ability to improve or destroy a victim's life depending on her level of cooperation


Ms No , 14 minutes ago link

The last good FBI agent was Ted Gunderson. That's why Van Decamp gave the documentary that Bush Administration had buried to him. We almost lost this documentary forever, but some heroic individuals and fate kept it alive, hoping people would give a ****. It all ties to somebody controlling our politicians with honeypots. Remember when NWO was a conspiracy theory people laughed about? Not funny any more.

This is Gunderson after the FBI. He KNEW. This is all honeypot. The Satanism is for leverage and not real. People get detoured into that.

"He also investigated a child molestation trial in Manhattan Beach, California. In a 1995 conference in Dallas , Gunderson warned about the supposed proliferation of secret occultist groups, and He also investigated a child molestation trial in Manhattan Beach, California. In a 1995 conference in Dallas , Gunderson warned about the supposed proliferation of secret occultist groups, and the danger posed by the New World Order , an alleged shadow government that would be controlling the United States government. [8] He also claimed that a "slave auction" in which children were sold by Saudi agents to men had been held in Las Vegas , that four thousand ritual human sacrifices are performed in New York City every year, and that the 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City was carried out by the US government. [8] Gunderson believed that in the United States there is a secret widespread network of groups who kidnap children and infants, and subject them to ritual abuse and subsequent human sacrifice. [9] [10] ) ,

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Gunderson

Conspiracy of Silence , a documentary listed for viewing in TV Guide Magazine was to be aired on the Discovery Channel, on May 3 1994. This documentary exposed a network of religious leaders and Washington politicians who flew children to Washington D.C. for sex orgies. Many children suffered the indignity of wearing nothing but their underwear and a number displayed on a piece of cardboard hanging from their necks when being auctioned off to foreigners in Las Vegas, Nevada, and Toronto, Canada.

"At the last minute before airing, unknown congressmen threatened the TV Cable industry with restrictive legislation if this documentary was aired. Almost immediately, the rights to the documentary were purchased by unknown persons who ordered all copies destroyed.

A copy of this videotape was furnished anonymously to former Nebraska state senator and attorney John De Camp who made it available to retired FBI Agent Ted L. Gunderson . While the video quality is not top grade, this tape is a blockbuster in what is revealed by its participants involved."

Can you imagine what these heroic men would think of this exposed Mossad honeypot? Its all exposed now, just needs to be linked together.

MadelynMarie , 5 minutes ago link

Really looks like this is how they control govts--not just in the US but all over the world.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/14-israelis-suspected-of-running-child-sex-trafficking-ring-in-colombia/

from the above article, I found this comment:

So the Jews have another South America pedophile scandal to their discredit. We haven't forgotten the child prostitution business run by Arie Scher and George Schteinberg in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, during the 1990s . It was exposed in the early summer of 2000 by an infuriated teenage girl who found a nude photo of herself online, after Schteinberg had PROMISED her that he'd never show it to anyone.

Schteinberg was arrested and given a slap on the wrist (they went easy on him because he was Jewish) while Arie Scher escaped to Israel, one step ahead of the authorities.

The Israeli government took away Scher's diplomat license for five years (because he got caught being naughty, presumably; properly trained Jews don't get caught, of course).

When the five years were past, Israel proposed to send Scher to Australia to replace Amir Laty, who'd made himself unwelcome by committing espionage and by being very rude to certain Australian women.

Somehow or other, the Australian public found out that the spy was being replaced by a pedophile as Israel's official ambassador to their country, and they got up in arms about it. This persuaded Scher to decline the post, perhaps keeping the cushy administrative job the Israeli government gave him during the previous five years

So, looks like there were running another operation like this in Brazil during the 90s (never heard of that one before)

Ms No , 3 minutes ago link

Thanks. I really appreciate your comments.

ILikeMeat , 14 minutes ago link

Sounds like the set up for a typical Mossad honey pot operation..

June 12 1776 , 15 minutes ago link

Case 1:19-cv-07772 Document 1 Filed 8/20/2019 Page 1 of 52

PRISCILLA DOE, Plaintiff,
vs.

DARREN K. INDYKE AND
RICHARD D. KAHN AS JOINT
PERSONAL REPRESENTATIVES OF THE
ESTATE OF JEFFREY E. EPSTEIN,
NINE EAST 71st STREET, CORPORATION,
FINANCIAL TRUST COMPANY, INC.,
NES, LLC, MAPLE,INC., LSJ,LLC,
HBRK ASSOCIATES, INC., JEGE, INC.,
Defendants.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6306617-Priscilla-Doe-v-Indyke.html

64. In 2006, Jeffrey Epstein told Plaintiff she was going on a trip with him to his island in the Unites States Virgin Islands.
65. On that trip was Jeffrey Epstein, Jean Luc Bruenel, Ghislaine Maxwell, Associate 2, Associate 8, and two other victims in addition to Plaintiff.
66. It was there that Ghislaine Maxwell taught Plaintiff the "proper way to give a blow job," describing to her the exact way that Jeffrey Epstein liked to be sexually serviced orally.

Case 1:19-cv-07772 Document 1 Filed 8/20/2019 Page 15 of 52

Give Me Some Truth , 16 minutes ago link

Easy predictions:

1) Authorities will NOT pursue, question or charge any of Epstein's clients or associates (the very people the entire trafficking operation catered to).

2) Authorities will NOT "follow the money."

3) Authorities will not arrest and prosecute any government employee who obstructed justice or participated in this scheme.

thefloridaman , 19 minutes ago link

You can't manage money if you are a felon!!! His licensing would have been revoked. It would have been on his U-4 and U-5.

Meanwhile he does not even show up on brokercheck.

Can anyone explain beyond the babble conspiracy theories. This is factual.

Jumanji1959 , 19 minutes ago link

The elites will have to get rid of people and evidence. The Clintons know too much and are oftened named. Nail gun sale at Home Depot. Those 2 geriatric fcuks must go.

Ms No , 9 minutes ago link

They are a huge liability on countless fronts. That will leave Chelsea to answer for any Clinton foundation questions, and she has been involved. She can play stupid and elicit sympathy. The Clintons are a huge problem.

south40_dreams , 25 minutes ago link

The clinton-soros-rothschild-obama cabal to rule the world is falling apart and the smell of arkancide is blowing heavy in the wind today......

Ms No , 7 minutes ago link

George Bush senior ran the CIA and his retarded offspring was in office for Israel's sept 11 false flag. Red team blue team is a joke.

Trump also has Mossad mob written all over him. His mentor was mob honeypotter, pedophile and hotel Titan Cohn.

They are all neck deep.

VWAndy , 39 minutes ago link

Notice these are civil lawsuits and not criminal cases.

Note the lack of perpwalks of the corrupted office holders.

Talk is cheap. Its in their actions we will know them by.

Ms No , 42 minutes ago link

JPMorgn and Douche bank need to be investigated for laundering the Epstein and Maxwell Mossad honeypot's money.

First JPMorgan was who they dealt with. Then when it started to get exposed they passed it to Douche.

Dont expect the Orange *** to investigate the Jewish Mob, that he is clearly an agent for.

the artist , 46 minutes ago link

Wait! Now there are TWO Islands!!!??? And Pedo Island is the SMALLER ONE???

WTF?

"Two of the complaints name as a defendant the company that once owned Little St. James , the smaller of Epstein's private islands in the Caribbean. "

marcel tjoeng , 53 minutes ago link

The Boss of Epstein is Wexner.

Wexner is related to Mossad and the very beginnings of the teaming up of Mossad with Dulles' CIA, after WWII, the OSS, the Irgun and the Stern gruppe, who did the King David Hotel bombing.

The Boss of Wexner is Henry Kissinger the 'republican free trader in favor of democracy'.

The Bosses of soldiers raping Kissinger in his Vietnam creation are the Rockefellers.

Kissinger ordered the Phoenix program mass murdering Vietnamese nationalist by the tens of thousands, which is a mere one feat in his massive killing career, like Churchill,

Kissinger who ran the Republican president Richard Nixon like fc*king a goat.

By the way, there are pictures in circulation of Republican president Ronald Reagan being deeply ejaculated into the manhole, enjoying that greatly (vehemently denied by his daughter at his funeral, pffffffff),

the same anecdotes exist of Prince Philip, husband of fake Queen Elisabeth, who requested to be manly penetrated by crew, when he was onboard visiting the British fleet.

USA USA USA

Bunch of parasite lunatics.

Burn it to the ground.

J S Bach , 1 hour ago link

" An associate of his taught her the "exact way" he liked to receive oral sex"

Wow... this is really important stuff.

How about a quote like:

"An associate of his taught him the "exact way" he liked to receive the blackmail information and videos in Israel."

MadelynMarie , 46 minutes ago link

"An associate of his taught him the "exact way" he liked to receive the blackmail information and videos in Israel."

Yes, interesting that we are NOT hearing about that aspect of the story.

I'm sure that Israel has operations like this all over the world. No doubt this is how they control governments behind the scenes.

Here's another one: https://www.timesofisrael.com/14-israelis-suspected-of-running-child-sex-trafficking-ring-in-colombia/

White Nat , 36 minutes ago link

And another ...

Homosexual Jewish Diplomat Runs a Child **** and Prostitution Business in Brazil

https://nationalvanguard.org/2016/08/recent-history-homosexual-jewish-diplomat-runs-a-child-****-and-prostitution-business-in-brazil/

NAV , 21 minutes ago link

And it it was no accident that the Monica Lewinsky/ Clinton sex scandal erupted into public view precisely at the moment Clinton had scheduled meetings with Netanyahu and Palestinian leader Yasir Arafat to revive the peace process by pressuring Netanyahu.

bustdriver , 1 hour ago link

Just to be clear on previous post.

"Time to investigate Mark Epstein and Humpty Dumpty."

Mark is Jeffrey's brother. He is a director of believe it or not the Humpty Dumpty Institute.

http://thehdi.org/about_humpty_dumpty.html

It is similar to the Clinton Foundation...

Give Me Some Truth , 15 minutes ago link

Mark Epstein has also gotten a pass. Add him to the long list.

Ms No , 1 hour ago link

This likely could be tied to Franklin child sex ring scandal and Mossad will be there too. Watch this free documentary before Jootube takes it down. Men died for you to know this. The show was yanked before it could be played mainstream. Extremely disturbing but VERY important. This was the last time they slipped through your fingers and this type of thing will be what destroys this evil.

https://youtu.be/PScfMeXAQwU

ironmace II , 1 hour ago link

chefs, butlers, receptionists, schedulers, secretaries, flight attendants, pilots, housekeepers, maids, sex recruiters, drivers and other staff members.

All small potatoes. The people really guilty all go free.

LEEPERMAX , 1 hour ago link

With his Death the Case is Closed . . . Mission accomplished.

TheAntiProgressive , 1 hour ago link

Yeah and since Sir Pedo's death was termed a suicide, then one would think his will dealy in US VI was planned, as was his death and me thinks a good lawyer would negate the will, trust, etc by simply terming this transfer of assets a fraudulent conveyance and yank it back where those abused can take a slice.

LEEPERMAX , 1 hour ago link

To Big to Jail

[Aug 20, 2019] The Pseudo Debate Over Jeffrey Epstein's Suicide Consortiumnews

Notable quotes:
"... However, while throughout Webb's articles she draws linkages that lead to the Mossad, she only suggests CIA connections. This is similar to but milder than a point made in an article written by Philip Giraldi, a former CIA counter-terrorism specialist, " Did Pedophile Jeffrey Epstein Work for Mossad? " Giraldi writes that the CIA "would have no particular motive to acquire an agent like Epstein." This makes no sense. Of course, it would. The CIA and the FBI have a long record of such activities, and to hold such a club over the heads of presidents, senators, et al to make sure they do their bidding is obviously a strong motivation. ..."
"... The CIA is organized crime, and if Epstein is Mossad connected, he is CIA also, which is most likely. Epstein could not have operated as he did for decades without being sustained and protected. ..."
"... no prosecution of the central operational cog in the gang, Ghislaine Maxwell, or her cohorts named in the fantastic settlement agreement ..."
"... “It is a mind game of extraordinary proportions, orchestrated by the perverted power elites who run the show and are abetted by their partners in the corporate mass media, even some in the alternative press who mean well but are confused, or are disinformation agents in the business of sowing confusion together with their mainstream Operation Mockingbird partners.” ..."
Aug 20, 2019 | consortiumnews.com

Death, sex, power, intrigue, murder, suicide -- these are the staples of the 19 th century penny press, mass media and the CIA, writes Edward Curtin .

By Edward Curtin
edwardcurtin.com

W hen phrases such as "the deep state" and "conspiracy theory" become staples of both the corporate mainstream media and the alternative press, we know the realities behind these phrases have outlasted their usefulness for the ruling elites who control the United States and for their critics, each of whom uses them refutably or corroboratively. These phrases are bandied about so often that they have become hackneyed and inane.

Everything is shallow now, in our faces, and by being in our faces the truth is taking place behind our backs. The obvious can't be true since it's so obvious, so let us search for other explanations, and when the searchers search, let us call them "conspiracy nuts." It is a mind game of extraordinary proportions, orchestrated by the perverted power elites who run the show and are abetted by their partners in the corporate mass media, even some in the alternative press who mean well but are confused, or are disinformation agents in the business of sowing confusion together with their mainstream Operation Mockingbird partners.

It is a spectacle of open secrecy, in which the CIA, which created the "conspiracy theory" meme to ridicule critics of the Warren Commission's absurd explanation of the Kennedy assassination, has effectively sucked everyone into a game of to and fro in which only they win.

"When I make a word do a lot of work like that," said Humpty Dumpty, "I always pay it extra."

Outside the Narrative Frame

Only by stepping outside this narrative frame with its vocabulary can we begin to grasp the truth here in our Wonderland of endless illusions.

Death, sex, power, intrigue, murder, suicide – these are the staples of the penny press of the 19 th century, Joseph Pulitzer's New York World , Hearst's New York Journal , the tabloids, today's mass media, and the CIA. People hunger for these stories, not for the real truth that impacts their lives, but for the titillation that gives a frisson to their humdrum lives. It is why post-modern detective stories are so popular, as if never solving the crime is the point.

Robert Pfaller in 2016. (Suzie1212, CC BY-SA 4.0, Wikimedia Commons)

To say "we will never know" is the mantra of a postmodern culture created to keep people running in circles. (Note the commentaries about the Jeffrey Epstein case.) Elusive and allusive indeterminacy characterizes everything in the culture of postmodernity. Robert Pfaller, a professor at the University of Art and Industrial Design in Linz, Austria, and a founding member of the Viennese psychoanalytic research group "stuzzicandenti," put it clearly in a recent interview :

"The ruling ideology since the fall of the Berlin Wall, or even earlier, is postmodernism. This is the ideological embellishment that the brutal neoliberal attack on Western societies' welfare (that was launched in the late 1970s) required in order to attain a "human", "liberal" and "progressive" face. This coalition between an economic policy that serves the interest of a tiny minority, and an ideology that appears to "include" everybody is what Nancy Fraser has aptly called "progressive neoliberalism". It consists of neoliberalism, plus postmodernism as its ideological superstructure."

The propagandists know this; they created it. They are psychologically astute, having hijacked many intelligent but soul-less people of the right and left to do their handiwork.

Money Buys Souls

Money buys souls, and the number of those who have sold theirs is numerous, including those leftists who have been bought by the CIA, as Cord Meyer, the CIA official phrased it so sexually in the 1950s: we need to "court the compatible left." He knew that drawing leftists into the CIA's orbit was the key to efficient propaganda. For so many of the compatible left, those making a lot of money posing as opponents of the ruling elites but taking the money of the super-rich, events like the JFK assassination are inconsequential, never to be broached, as if they never happened, except as the authorities say they did.

By ignoring these most in-your-face events with their eyes wide shut, a coterie of influential leftists has done the work of Orwell's crime-stop and has effectively succeeded in situating current events in an ahistorical and therefore misleading context that abets U.S. propaganda.

The debate over whether Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide or not is a pseudo-debate meant to keep people spinning their wheels over nothing. It attracts attention and will do so for many days to come. There are even some usually astute people suggesting that he may not be dead but might have been secretly whisked off somewhere and replaced with a dead look-alike. Now who would profit from suggesting something as insane as this? The speculation runs rampant and feeds the spectacle. Whether he was allowed to kill himself or was killed makes little difference.

(Christopher Dombres, CC0, Wikimedia Commons)

Debates to Nowhere

It's akin to asking who pulled the trigger that killed President John Kennedy. That's a debate that was intended to go nowhere, as it has, after it became apparent that Lee Harvey Oswald surely did not kill JFK. Kennedy's murder in broad daylight in public view is the paradigmatic event of modern times. It is obvious to anyone who gives minimal study to the issue that it was organized and carried out by elements within the national security state, notably the CIA. Their message was meant to be unequivocal and clear: We can kill him and we can kill you; we are in full control; beware. Then they went on to kill others, including RFK and MLK. It takes little intelligence to see this obvious fact, unless you wish not to or are totally lost in the neighborhood of make-believe.

As it was with Jack Ruby killing Lee Harvey Oswald, so it is with Epstein. There will be no trial. Nothing is really hidden except the essential truth. Guess, debate, wonder, watch, read to your sad heart's content. You will have gotten nowhere unless you step outside the frame of the reigning narrative.

New York Post: Reigniting the narrative.

A corollary example of another recent national headline grabber, the Mueller investigation, is apropos here. Douglas Valentine, expert on the CIA and author of "The CIA as Organized Crime," said in a recent interview that in all the endless mass media discussions of the Mueller investigation, one obvious question was never asked: What is the CIA's role in it all? It was never asked because the job of the corporate mass media is to work for the CIA, not to expose it as a nest of organized criminals and murderers that it is.

What is important in the Epstein case is the deep back story, a tale that goes back decades and is explored by Whitney Webb in a series of fine articles for the Mint Press. Read her articles and you will see how Epstein is just the current manifestation of the sordid history of the American marriage between various factions of the American ruling elites, whose business is sexual exploitation as a fringe benefit of being willing members of the economic and military exploitation of the world. A marriage of spies, mafia, intelligence agencies, sexual perverts, foreign governments and American traitors who will stop at nothing to advance their interests.

Destroys the Fairy Tale of Democracy

It is a hard story to swallow because it destroys the fairy tale that has been constructed about American "democracy" and the decency of our leaders. Webb's articles are not based on secret documents but on readily available information open to a diligent researcher. It's known history that has been buried, as is most history in a country of amnesiacs and educational illiterates. The average person doesn't have Webb's skill or time to pull it all together, but they can read her illuminating work. Often, however, it is the will to truth that is lacking.

While Webb places the Epstein matter in an historical context, she does not "solve" the case, since there is nothing to solve. It is another story from a long litany of sex/espionage stories openly available to anyone willing to look. They tell the same story. Like many commentators, she draws many linkages to the Israeli Mossad's long-standing connections to this criminal under and over world in the United States and throughout the world. She writes:

"Ultimately, the picture painted by the evidence is not a direct tie to a single intelligence agency but a web linking key members of the Mega Group [a secretive group of Jewish billionaires, including Epstein's patron Leslie Wexner], politicians, and officials in both the U.S. and Israel, and an organized-crime network with deep business and intelligence ties in both nations."

If anything is obvious about the Epstein case, it is that he was part of a sexual blackmail operation tied to intelligence agencies. Such blackmail has long been central to the methods of intelligence agencies worldwide and many arrows rightfully point to the Mossad.

However, while throughout Webb's articles she draws linkages that lead to the Mossad, she only suggests CIA connections. This is similar to but milder than a point made in an article written by Philip Giraldi, a former CIA counter-terrorism specialist, " Did Pedophile Jeffrey Epstein Work for Mossad? " Giraldi writes that the CIA "would have no particular motive to acquire an agent like Epstein." This makes no sense. Of course, it would. The CIA and the FBI have a long record of such activities, and to hold such a club over the heads of presidents, senators, et al to make sure they do their bidding is obviously a strong motivation.

Valentine's point about not asking the question about the CIA's involvement in the Mueller investigation pertains. Does Giraldi believe that the Mossad operates independently of the CIA? Or that they don't work in tandem? His statement is very strange.

The CIA is organized crime, and if Epstein is Mossad connected, he is CIA also, which is most likely. Epstein could not have operated as he did for decades without being sustained and protected. Now that he is dead there will be no trial, just as there will be no mainstream media or justice department revelations about the CIA or Mossad. There will be a lot of gibberish about conspiracy theories and the open secret that is the spectacle of secrecy will roll on. There will, of course, be much sex talk and outrage. We will anxiously await the movie and the TV "exposés." Most people will know, and pretend they don't, that the country is ruled by gangsters who would pimp their mothers if it served their interests.

Those of us who oppose these criminals – and there are growing numbers all over the world – must avoid being sucked into the Establishment narratives and the counter-narratives they spawn or create. We must refuse to get involved in pseudo-debates that are meant to lead nowhere. We must reject the language created to confuse.

If revolutionary change is to come, we must learn to tell a new story in language so beautiful, illuminating, and heart-rending that no one will listen to the lying words of child molesters, mass murderers, and those who hate and persecute truth tellers.

As John Berger said, "In storytelling everything depends on what follows what. And the truest order is seldom obvious."

Educated in the classics, philosophy, literature, theology, and sociology, Ed Curtin is a former professor of sociology. His writing on varied topics has appeared widely over many years. He sees all his work as an effort to enhance human freedom.

This article is from the author's website edwardcurtin.com .

Brent Anderson August 20, 2019 at 12:09

Prince Andrew hung out with Epstein because he made a good tuna on rye. We are all conditioned to accept that powerful people do not have to go to jail. Its just the way it is and will always remain so. There is not an honest person anywhere on planet earth who believes that Bill Clinton and the others did not have sex with “those girls”. America and the west are morally corrupt piles of garbage. No wonder the African Americans and others rage against an unbalanced system of justice. Actually it is just poor people of any color who get the book thrown at them.

I saw the pictures yesterday on the telegraph of the young blond girl leaving Epsteins Manhattan home with Prince Andrew poking his head out the door. The girl looked like she was no older than 14. The dear old Queen doesn’t represent justice either.

Vera Gottlieb, August 20, 2019 at 11:29

Just curious…will the Epstein saga be as prolonged and boring as the Russiagate saga???

Litchfield, August 20, 2019 at 14:00

I don’t think so.

It is in the interest of the puppetmeister to let thing die out ASAP. Not so the Russiagate hoax: the idea was to prolong it in the hopes of finally finding a smoking gun of some kind. With the Epstein story we are awash in smoking guns, but they are being ignored.

Dan D. August 20, 2019 at 09:34

If there is no trial and further revelations about the nature of this operation, which should be expected, it won’t simply be because Epstein is dead, but because there will be no prosecution of the central operational cog in the gang, Ghislaine Maxwell, or her cohorts named in the fantastic settlement agreement. There are more than sufficient facts in the public sphere to proceed.

Bob Van Noy, August 20, 2019 at 09:07

“It is a mind game of extraordinary proportions, orchestrated by the perverted power elites who run the show and are abetted by their partners in the corporate mass media, even some in the alternative press who mean well but are confused, or are disinformation agents in the business of sowing confusion together with their mainstream Operation Mockingbird partners.”

“The CIA is organized crime,…”

Edward Curtin has summarized our contemporary hell as few others can. In the above comments he fully describes our dilemma and underscores the necessity for sites like Consortiumnews to present the truth for citizens to be able to sort truth from lies. Still we cannot forget that our democracy is “a criminal conspiracy”…

https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKmockingbird.htm

Jill, August 20, 2019 at 08:47

I actually believe knowing what happened to Epstein is knowable. It is also important because it will reveal who/what has the power to make such a thing happen. However, while this information will take a long time to come out it is our job to push on behalf of his victims right now.

There is information showing that Maxwell and several other people committed multiple rapes of children. We do not see her, Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton and Donald Trump, just to name a few, hauled in for questioning. That really needs to happen. We have built up the powerful into untouchable icons. This needs to full stop now. These are not icons, they are potential and likely guilty child rapists of children. Our power system is held up by unspeakable cruelty to children and to others who simply don’t have the power to fight back unless we offer our support and services to them. There is enough testimony and other evidence to bring them in for questioning.

The conspiracy to commit rape should be ready to go. Investigators have had that information for a long time. I’m not buying that they are too incompetent to move that case forward. We are going to need to push for this. Deliberate infliction of human misery is evil and it is not acceptable to create one’s society on such a thing.

There is ground penetrating radar which can see under Jeff’s concrete pour. It can also show the tunnels on the islands. “Lost” evidence can be relocated from it’s undisclosed location. The ranch in NM can be sealed off and also scanned by this radar. No one should believe agencies with the resources of this government behind them are incapable of doing such things.

In the meantime, there is a tape of Jeff’s wing from that night. There’s one from the hospital and the investigators can offer immunity to anyone guard or hospital/ambulance employee in exchange for their truthful explanation of what they were doing and what they saw. This was not a series of incompetent actions which all went one way and one way only. It took a lot of planning and a lot of resources. That means there are a lot of witnesses.

We do need to uncover and dismantle this chain of human misery. No More.

ML, August 20, 2019 at 11:27

Excellent comment, Jill. As a family medicine nurse practitioner for many years, I have witnessed and helped many teen victims of adults who thought it somehow A-ok to sexually take advantage of them. I understand teen psychology. They are wholly unprepared to deal with the often underhanded tactics of pedophiles who use charm, deceit, threats, flattery, physical violence, tangible needed goods like money, clothing, or even a place to sleep, to get what they want— sex with a young person.

It is truly evil and that is not too strong a word for it. Epstein apparently used all of these tactics on his victims. How I wish there were a hell for the likes of him.

Litchfield, August 20, 2019 at 12:14

I agree with all you say, and thanks for putting it so clearly. There is NO EXCUSE for this case NOT to go forward and for all the parties of interest to be interrogated, and not with velvet gloves on. Clinton, Andrew, Dersh, Wexner, Maxwell, just for starters. Possibly Barr should recuse himself, as he seems to be too intertwined with the Epstein background story.

Brian Murphy, August 20, 2019 at 12:42

Is it really such a mystery what organizations acting together have the capability to have done this? They are identified in the article. The western coalition of intelligence agencies, which includes the Mossad along with NATO powers. In the USA, that includes the entire intelligence apparatus — CIA, NSA, MIA, FBI, Secret Service, as supported and defended by the DOJ.

Which of those entities placed someone in the jail cell to crack his neck is somewhat immaterial. The current President and at least one former President were implicated, which justifies the use of the full arsenal in the minds of those involved, as a “threat to national security,” which of course means strictly “threat to the profits of certain entities.”

Walter, August 20, 2019 at 06:56

There is sparse evidence and zero proof that the charming fellow committed suicide, and only claims (somebody said stuff) that he’s actually dead. (Same for his girlfriend’s dad, same for Skirpal :–)

Whitney Webb at Mintpressnews is doing good job on Mr E.

... ... ...

[Aug 20, 2019] In this sordid world, people without power have absolutely no value.

Notable quotes:
"... When Trump was first elected, I tried to calm down friends with advanced TDS, who expected Kristallnacht to be directed at their favorite brunch spots, by saying that "This is what empires in decline look like." ..."
"... In this sordid world, girls/women have absolutely no value ..."
"... Don't forget the young boys who get traded around like fudge recipes. Something quick on the Hollywood angle on bent dicks. It applies almost everywhere in America now: https://news.avclub.com/corey-feldman-made-a-documentary-about-sexual-abuse-he-1834310252 ..."
"... My reinterpretation of your comment would be; In this sordid world, people without power have absolutely no value. ..."
"... Epstein's World was tied in with Hollywood and Wall Street. Both are homoerotic paedophile havens. The world of the Vatican is tied in to Wall Street; it has it's own bank, the Instituto per le Opere de Religioni. ..."
"... As is true with the continued withholding of key documents in the JFK assassination, I believe that if the lousy reporting and official screwups in the Epstein case persist, it will be perfectly fine for the public to conclude and believe the absolute worst and act accordingly. ..."
"... Given the spotiness and inadequacy of reporting on the Epstein affair I wonder if an avenue for exploration might be that of a more direct involvement of media moguls and highly placed media staff in being serviced by Epstein i.e., the decision-makers regarding what gets covered and published are themselves subject to exposure, embarrassment, and other things that befall men caught in such matters. ..."
Aug 14, 2019 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

Michael Fiorillo , , August 14, 2019 at 11:38 am

I can't add much to Yve's excellent post and the follow-up comments, except to say that the events of recent days and weeks have made Pizzagate (as deranged as it was) into some kind of weird Jungian premonition which is to say, the s&#* is out of control.

When Trump was first elected, I tried to calm down friends with advanced TDS, who expected Kristallnacht to be directed at their favorite brunch spots, by saying that "This is what empires in decline look like."

In regard to this sordid tale, I'm reminded of Robert Graves' (and the superb BBC TV version of) "I, Claudius."

"Don't eat the figs."

adrena , , August 14, 2019 at 11:48 am

In this sordid world, girls/women have absolutely no value.

ambrit , , August 14, 2019 at 12:16 pm

Don't forget the young boys who get traded around like fudge recipes. Something quick on the Hollywood angle on bent dicks. It applies almost everywhere in America now: https://news.avclub.com/corey-feldman-made-a-documentary-about-sexual-abuse-he-1834310252

My reinterpretation of your comment would be; In this sordid world, people without power have absolutely no value. Otherwise, I'm with you all the way. Abuse is abuse. No other definition is logical.

ambrit , , August 14, 2019 at 4:18 pm

Epstein's World was tied in with Hollywood and Wall Street. Both are homoerotic paedophile havens. The world of the Vatican is tied in to Wall Street; it has it's own bank, the Instituto per le Opere de Religioni.

Who knows? Perhaps there will be some Prelates unearthed from the Lolita Express passenger log.

Pelham , , August 14, 2019 at 1:54 pm

As is true with the continued withholding of key documents in the JFK assassination, I believe that if the lousy reporting and official screwups in the Epstein case persist, it will be perfectly fine for the public to conclude and believe the absolute worst and act accordingly.

Actually, we SHOULD believe the worst.

Robin Kash , , August 14, 2019 at 2:16 pm

Given the spotiness and inadequacy of reporting on the Epstein affair I wonder if an avenue for exploration might be that of a more direct involvement of media moguls and highly placed media staff in being serviced by Epstein i.e., the decision-makers regarding what gets covered and published are themselves subject to exposure, embarrassment, and other things that befall men caught in such matters.

Who covers the press and roots out its secret malefactions? Rogue reporters? And who publishes them? Indeed!

[Aug 20, 2019] Evil Sex With Children Has Become Big Business In America

Notable quotes:
"... Sex trafficking -- especially when it comes to the buying and selling of young girls -- has become big business in America, the fastest growing business in organized crime and the second most-lucrative commodity traded illegally after drugs and guns. ..."
"... As investigative journalist Amy Fine Collins notes, "It's become more lucrative and much safer to sell malleable teens than drugs or guns . A pound of heroin or an AK-47 can be retailed once, but a young girl can be sold 10 to 15 times a day -- and a 'righteous' pimp confiscates 100 percent of her earnings." ..."
"... According to USA Today , adults purchase children for sex at least 2.5 million times a year in the United States. ..."
"... In Georgia alone, it is estimated that 7,200 men (half of them in their 30s) seek to purchase sex with adolescent girls each month , averaging roughly 300 a day. ..."
"... "Human trafficking -- the commercial sexual exploitation of American children and women, via the Internet, strip clubs, escort services, or street prostitution -- is on its way to becoming one of the worst crimes in the U.S. ," said prosecutor Krishna Patel. ..."
Apr 27, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Sex trafficking -- especially when it comes to the buying and selling of young girls -- has become big business in America, the fastest growing business in organized crime and the second most-lucrative commodity traded illegally after drugs and guns.

As investigative journalist Amy Fine Collins notes, "It's become more lucrative and much safer to sell malleable teens than drugs or guns . A pound of heroin or an AK-47 can be retailed once, but a young girl can be sold 10 to 15 times a day -- and a 'righteous' pimp confiscates 100 percent of her earnings."

Consider this: every two minutes, a child is exploited in the sex industry .

According to USA Today , adults purchase children for sex at least 2.5 million times a year in the United States.

Who buys a child for sex? Otherwise ordinary men from all walks of life.

" They could be your co-worker, doctor, pastor or spouse ," writes journalist Tim Swarens, who spent more than a year investigating the sex trade in America.

In Georgia alone, it is estimated that 7,200 men (half of them in their 30s) seek to purchase sex with adolescent girls each month , averaging roughly 300 a day.

On average, a child might be raped by 6,000 men during a five-year period of servitude .

It is estimated that at least 100,000 children -- girls and boys -- are bought and sold for sex in the U.S. every year , with as many as 300,000 children in danger of being trafficked each year. Some of these children are forcefully abducted, others are runaways, and still others are sold into the system by relatives and acquaintances.

"Human trafficking -- the commercial sexual exploitation of American children and women, via the Internet, strip clubs, escort services, or street prostitution -- is on its way to becoming one of the worst crimes in the U.S. ," said prosecutor Krishna Patel.

This is an industry that revolves around cheap sex on the fly, with young girls and women who are sold to 50 men each day for $25 apiece , while their handlers make $150,000 to $200,000 per child each year.

This is not a problem found only in big cities.

It's happening everywhere, right under our noses, in suburbs, cities and towns across the nation.

As Ernie Allen of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children points out, " The only way not to find this in any American city is simply not to look for it ."

Don't fool yourselves into believing that this is merely a concern for lower income communities or immigrants.

It's not .

It is estimated that there are 100,000 to 150,000 under-aged child sex workers in the U.S. These girls aren't volunteering to be sex slaves. They're being lured -- forced -- trafficked into it. In most cases, they have no choice.

In order to avoid detection (in some cases aided and abetted by the police ) and cater to male buyers' demand for sex with different women, pimps and the gangs and crime syndicates they work for have turned sex trafficking into a highly mobile enterprise, with trafficked girls, boys and women constantly being moved from city to city, state to state, and country to country.

For instance, the Baltimore-Washington area, referred to as The Circuit , with its I-95 corridor dotted with rest stops, bus stations and truck stops, is a hub for the sex trade.

No doubt about it: this is a highly profitable, highly organized and highly sophisticated sex trafficking business that operates in towns large and small, raking in upwards of $9.5 billion a year in the U.S. alone by abducting and selling young girls for sex.

Every year, the girls being bought and sold gets younger and younger.

The average age of those being trafficked is 13. Yet as the head of a group that combats trafficking pointed out, "Let's think about what average means. That means there are children younger than 13. That means 8-, 9-, 10-year-olds. "

"For every 10 women rescued, there are 50 to 100 more women who are brought in by the traffickers. Unfortunately, they're not 18- or 20-year-olds anymore," noted a 25-year-old victim of trafficking. " They're minors as young as 13 who are being trafficked. They're little girls."

Where did this appetite for young girls come from?

Look around you.

Young girls have been sexualized for years now in music videos, on billboards, in television ads, and in clothing stores. Marketers have created a demand for young flesh and a ready supply of over-sexualized children.

"All it takes is one look at MySpace photos of teens to see examples -- if they aren't imitating porn they've actually seen, they're imitating the porn-inspired images and poses they've absorbed elsewhere," writes Jessica Bennett for Newsweek . "Latex, corsets and stripper heels, once the fashion of porn stars, have made their way into middle and high school."

This is what Bennett refers to as the " pornification of a generation ."

"In a market that sells high heels for babies and thongs for tweens, it doesn't take a genius to see that sex, if not porn, has invaded our lives ," concludes Bennett . "Whether we welcome it or not, television brings it into our living rooms and the Web brings it into our bedrooms. According to a 2007 study from the University of Alberta, as many as 90 percent of boys and 70 percent of girls aged 13 to 14 have accessed sexually explicit content at least once."

In other words, the culture is grooming these young people to be preyed upon by sexual predators. And then we wonder why our young women are being preyed on, trafficked and abused?

Social media makes it all too easy. As one news center reported, "Finding girls is easy for pimps. They look on MySpace, Facebook, and other social networks. They and their assistants cruise malls, high schools and middle schools. They pick them up at bus stops. On the trolley. Girl-to-girl recruitment sometimes happens." Foster homes and youth shelters have also become prime targets for traffickers.

Rarely do these girls enter into prostitution voluntarily. Many start out as runaways or throwaways, only to be snatched up by pimps or larger sex rings. Others, persuaded to meet up with a stranger after interacting online through one of the many social networking sites, find themselves quickly initiated into their new lives as sex slaves.

Debbie , a straight-A student who belonged to a close-knit Air Force family living in Phoenix, Ariz., is an example of this trading of flesh. Debbie was 15 when she was snatched from her driveway by an acquaintance-friend. Forced into a car, Debbie was bound and taken to an unknown location, held at gunpoint and raped by multiple men. She was then crammed into a small dog kennel and forced to eat dog biscuits. Debbie's captors advertised her services on Craigslist. Those who responded were often married with children, and the money that Debbie "earned" for sex was given to her kidnappers. The gang raping continued. After searching the apartment where Debbie was held captive, police finally found Debbie stuffed in a drawer under a bed. Her harrowing ordeal lasted for 40 days.

While Debbie was fortunate enough to be rescued, others are not so lucky. According to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, nearly 800,000 children go missing every year (roughly 2,185 children a day).

With a growing demand for sexual slavery and an endless supply of girls and women who can be targeted for abduction, this is not a problem that's going away anytime soon.

For those trafficked, it's a nightmare from beginning to end.

Those being sold for sex have an average life expectancy of seven years , and those years are a living nightmare of endless rape, forced drugging, humiliation, degradation, threats, disease, pregnancies, abortions, miscarriages, torture, pain, and always the constant fear of being killed or, worse, having those you love hurt or killed.

Peter Landesman paints the full horrors of life for those victims of the sex trade in his New York Times article " The Girls Next Door ":

Andrea told me that she and the other children she was held with were frequently beaten to keep them off-balance and obedient. Sometimes they were videotaped while being forced to have sex with adults or one another. Often, she said, she was asked to play roles: the therapist patient or the obedient daughter. Her cell of sex traffickers offered three age ranges of sex partners--toddler to age 4, 5 to 12 and teens--as well as what she called a "damage group." "In the damage group, they can hit you or do anything they want to," she explained. "Though sex always hurts when you are little, so it's always violent, everything was much more painful once you were placed in the damage group."

What Andrea described next shows just how depraved some portions of American society have become. "They'd get you hungry then to train you" to have oral sex. "They put honey on a man. For the littlest kids, you had to learn not to gag. And they would push things in you so you would open up better. We learned responses. Like if they wanted us to be sultry or sexy or scared. Most of them wanted you scared. When I got older, I'd teach the younger kids how to float away so things didn't hurt."

Immigration and customs enforcement agents at the Cyber Crimes Center in Fairfax, Va., report that when it comes to sex, the appetites of many Americans have now changed. What was once considered abnormal is now the norm. These agents are tracking a clear spike in the demand for harder-core pornography on the Internet . As one agent noted, "We've become desensitized by the soft stuff; now we need a harder and harder hit."

This trend is reflected by the treatment many of the girls receive at the hands of the drug traffickers and the men who purchase them. Peter Landesman interviewed Rosario , a Mexican woman who had been trafficked to New York and held captive for a number of years. She said: "In America, we had 'special jobs.' Oral sex, anal sex, often with many men. Sex is now more adventurous, harder."

A common thread woven through most survivors' experiences is being forced to go without sleep or food until they have met their sex quota of at least 40 men . One woman recounts how her trafficker made her lie face down on the floor when she was pregnant and then literally jumped on her back, forcing her to miscarry.

Holly Austin Smith was abducted when she was 14 years old, raped, and then forced to prostitute herself. Her pimp, when brought to trial, was only made to serve a year in prison.

Barbara Amaya was repeatedly sold between traffickers, abused, shot, stabbed, raped, kidnapped, trafficked, beaten, and jailed all before she was 18 years old. "I had a quota that I was supposed to fill every night. And if I didn't have that amount of money, I would get beat, thrown down the stairs. He beat me once with wire coat hangers, the kind you hang up clothes, he straightened it out and my whole back was bleeding."

As David McSwane recounts in a chilling piece for the Herald-Tribune : "In Oakland Park, an industrial Fort Lauderdale suburb, federal agents in 2011 encountered a brothel operated by a married couple. Inside 'The Boom Boom Room,' as it was known, customers paid a fee and were given a condom and a timer and left alone with one of the brothel's eight teenagers, children as young as 13. A 16-year-old foster child testified that he acted as security, while a 17-year-old girl told a federal judge she was forced to have sex with as many as 20 men a night."

One particular sex trafficking ring catered specifically to migrant workers employed seasonally on farms throughout the southeastern states, especially the Carolinas and Georgia , although it's a flourishing business in every state in the country. Traffickers transport the women from farm to farm, where migrant workers would line up outside shacks, as many as 30 at a time , to have sex with them before they were transported to yet another farm where the process would begin all over again.

This growing evil is, for all intents and purposes, out in the open.

Trafficked women and children are advertised on the internet, transported on the interstate, and bought and sold in swanky hotels.

Indeed, as I make clear in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People , the government's war on sex trafficking -- much like the government's war on terrorism, drugs and crime -- has become a perfect excuse for inflicting more police state tactics (police check points, searches, surveillance, and heightened security) on a vulnerable public , while doing little to make our communities safer.

So what can you do?

Educate yourselves and your children about this growing menace in our communities.

Stop feeding the monster: Sex trafficking is part of a larger continuum in America that runs the gamut from homelessness, poverty, and self-esteem issues to sexualized television, the glorification of a pimp/ho culture -- what is often referred to as the pornification of America -- and a billion dollar sex industry built on the back of pornography, music, entertainment, etc.

This epidemic is largely one of our own making, especially in a corporate age where the value placed on human life takes a backseat to profit. It is estimated that the porn industry brings in more money than Amazon, Microsoft, Google, Apple, and Yahoo .

Call on your city councils, elected officials and police departments to make the battle against sex trafficking a top priority, more so even than the so-called war on terror and drugs and the militarization of law enforcement.

Stop prosecuting adults for victimless "crimes" such as growing lettuce in their front yard and focus on putting away the pimps and buyers who victimize these young women.

Finally , the police need to do a better job of training, identifying and responding to these issues; communities and social services need to do a better job of protecting runaways, who are the primary targets of traffickers; legislators need to pass legislation aimed at prosecuting traffickers and "johns," the buyers who drive the demand for sex slaves; and hotels need to stop enabling these traffickers, by providing them with rooms and cover for their dirty deeds.

That so many women and children continue to be victimized, brutalized and treated like human cargo is due to three things: one, a consumer demand that is increasingly lucrative for everyone involved -- except the victims; two, a level of corruption so invasive on both a local and international scale that there is little hope of working through established channels for change; and three, an eerie silence from individuals who fail to speak out against such atrocities.

But the truth is that we are all guilty of contributing to this human suffering. The traffickers are guilty. The consumers are guilty. The corrupt law enforcement officials are guilty. The women's groups who do nothing are guilty. The foreign peacekeepers and aid workers who contribute to the demand for sex slaves are guilty. Most of all, every individual who does not raise a hue and cry over the atrocities being committed against women and children in almost every nation around the globe -- including the United States -- is guilty.


dibiase , 1 hour ago link

How many teenage drug addicts and runaway die a year with out the police doing anything when they are found dead of an overdose with a man 40 years their senior???

Anthony Aaron , 1 hour ago link

The penalties for this need to be really severe -- capital punishment should be on the table in every case.

One day, when the law fails too much for too long, folks will get out their 2nd Amendment hardware and start to take back their streets and their cities and their lives and that will be when all of the **** starts coming to a halt.

dibiase , 59 minutes ago link

Then why are epstien/dershawitz/clinton/trump, etc still alive...???

Remember epstien used mar a largo to find his girls... TRUMPTARDS

DemandSider , 22 minutes ago link

And Bill was one of Epstein's best buddies, and flew on his plane, often.

dibiase , 18 minutes ago link

Bill was also buddies with zump....

Troy Ounce , 1 hour ago link

Here are the paedophile logos.

See the somewhere? Be aware?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3560069/The-symbols-pedophiles-use-signal-sordid-sexual-preferences-social-media.html

Lord Raglan , 1 hour ago link

I'd like to see the sources of data in this story. I find most of it hard to believe. Everything now is so exaggerated and over the top. A man has to be out of his mind to have sex with an underage girl. In my state, it is probably a 30 year prison sentence, not to mention being in possession of kiddy ****. I'm sure it is a problem but nothing like that portrayed in this sensationalizing article. I've been in every big city in the US and I've never seen a hooker that is obviously underage.

adr , 1 hour ago link

If you have enough money and are part of the protected class, you can do anything you want.

Pizzagate would have blown the whole thing wide open. Wall St tycoons, politicians, celebrities, all part of a massive operation. The story was quickly buried because it would have brought about a total revolution. It also would have tanked the stock market as the CEOs of a lot of Fortune 500 companies would go down.

Behind it all are the Tribesmen who see those who aren't them as livestock to feed those who want and will pay handsomely for it.

There is no doubt in my mind that Tim Cook has a harem of adolescent boys. People think Kevin Spacey is a pig, bit they have no idea. The moral depravity of high society in today's world is unfathomable to most people. They simply can not believe it because they are hopelessly naive.

himmelhund , 1 hour ago link

this is not the "protected class" paying 50$ for little kids. The protected class pays much more if they pay at all and they get "volunteers" in many cases.

this is ordinary shitheads paying for child slavery

[Aug 20, 2019] one key aspect of Epstein's own sex-trafficking and blackmail operation that warrants examination is Epstein's ties to Israeli intelligence and his ties to the 'informal' pro-Israel philanthropist faction known as 'the Mega Group

Notable quotes:
"... "The Mega Group's role in the Epstein case has garnered some attention, as Epstein's main financial patron for decades, billionaire Leslie Wexner, was a co-founder of the group that unites several well-known businessmen with a penchant for pro-Israel and ethno-philanthropy (i.e., philanthropy benefiting a single ethnic or ethno-religious group). [ ] another uniting factor among Mega Group members is deep ties to organized crime [ ] ..."
"... "By virtue of the role of many Mega Group members as major political donors in both the U.S. and Israel, several of its most notable members have close ties to the governments of both countries as well as their intelligence communities. [ ] the Mega Group also had close ties to two businessmen who worked for Israel's Mossad -- Robert Maxwell and Marc Rich -- as well as to top Israeli politicians, including past and present prime ministers with deep ties to Israel's intelligence community. ..."
"... "Years later, Maxwell's daughter -- Ghislaine Maxwell -- would join Jeffrey Epstein's 'inner circle' at the same time Epstein was bankrolling a similar software program now being marketed for critical electronic infrastructure in the U.S. and abroad. That company has deep and troubling connections to Israeli military intelligence, associates of the Trump administration, and the Mega Group. ..."
"... "Ultimately, the picture painted by the evidence is not a direct tie to a single intelligence agency but a web linking key members of the Mega Group, politicians, and officials in both the U.S. and Israel, and an organized-crime network with deep business and intelligence ties in both nations." ..."
Aug 14, 2019 | consortiumnews.com

Abe , August 14, 2019 at 00:45

"one key aspect of Epstein's own sex-trafficking and blackmail operation that warrants examination is Epstein's ties to Israeli intelligence and his ties to the 'informal' pro-Israel philanthropist faction known as 'the Mega Group.'

"The Mega Group's role in the Epstein case has garnered some attention, as Epstein's main financial patron for decades, billionaire Leslie Wexner, was a co-founder of the group that unites several well-known businessmen with a penchant for pro-Israel and ethno-philanthropy (i.e., philanthropy benefiting a single ethnic or ethno-religious group). [ ] another uniting factor among Mega Group members is deep ties to organized crime [ ]

"By virtue of the role of many Mega Group members as major political donors in both the U.S. and Israel, several of its most notable members have close ties to the governments of both countries as well as their intelligence communities. [ ] the Mega Group also had close ties to two businessmen who worked for Israel's Mossad -- Robert Maxwell and Marc Rich -- as well as to top Israeli politicians, including past and present prime ministers with deep ties to Israel's intelligence community.

"One of those businessmen working for the Mossad, Robert Maxwell, { ] who was a business partner of Mega Group co-founder Charles Bronfman, aided the successful Mossad plot to plant a trapdoor in U.S.-created software that was then sold to governments and companies throughout the world. That plot's success was largely due to the role of a close associate of then-President Ronald Reagan and an American politician close to Maxwell, who later helped aid Reagan in the cover-up of the Iran Contra scandal.

"Years later, Maxwell's daughter -- Ghislaine Maxwell -- would join Jeffrey Epstein's 'inner circle' at the same time Epstein was bankrolling a similar software program now being marketed for critical electronic infrastructure in the U.S. and abroad. That company has deep and troubling connections to Israeli military intelligence, associates of the Trump administration, and the Mega Group.

"Epstein appears to have ties to Israeli intelligence and has well-documented ties to influential Israeli politicians and the Mega Group. Yet, those entities are not isolated in and of themselves, as many also connect to the organized crime network and powerful alleged pedophiles [ ]

"Given that intelligence agencies in both the U.S. and elsewhere often conduct covert operations for the benefit of oligarchs and large corporations as opposed to 'national security interest,' Epstein's ties to the Mega Group suggest that this group holds a unique status and influence in both the governments of the U.S. and of Israel [ ] This is by virtue of their role as key political donors in both countries, as well as the fact that several of them own powerful companies or financial institutions in both countries. Indeed, many members of the Mega Group have deep ties to Israel's political class, including to Netanyahu and Ehud Barak as well as to now-deceased figures like Shimon Peres, and to members of the American political class.

"Ultimately, the picture painted by the evidence is not a direct tie to a single intelligence agency but a web linking key members of the Mega Group, politicians, and officials in both the U.S. and Israel, and an organized-crime network with deep business and intelligence ties in both nations."

Mega Group, Maxwells and Mossad: The Spy Story at the Heart of the Jeffrey Epstein Scandal
By Whitney Webb
https://www.mintpressnews.com/mega-group-maxwells-mossad-spy-story-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/261172/

[Aug 20, 2019] Mega group vs Al Capone

Aug 20, 2019 | consortiumnews.com

geeyp , August 15, 2019 at 00:42

M. Illoinen – I completely agree with you, innocent until proven guilty. I assume that you are referencing my post. When the Powers finally arrested the slippery Al Capone, they had him on tax evasion. They wanted him for a host of crimes. They had the evidence for tax evasion and went with that. These characters have ruined many innocent lives and have gotten away with it.

At this stage, I welcome any arrest of these greased pigs on any charges they want to file against them. If it's the Epstein case, that's certainly O.K. with me.

[Aug 20, 2019] Israel comes up often in Jeffrey Epstein case by Philip Weiss

Notable quotes:
"... Ehud Barak, 77, a former prime minister and defense minister, received some $2.3 million in payments from [the Wexner] foundation associated with Mr. Epstein from 2004 to 2006, and Mr. Epstein invested a reported $1 million in a limited partnership established by Mr. Barak in 2015 . . . ..."
"... Israeli news media has reported that the investment was about $1 million. Mr. Barak's company, Carbyne, formerly known as Reporty Homeland Security, specializes in emergency response geo-location and live video-streaming ..."
"... He'd cut the non-prosecution deal with one of Epstein's attorneys because he had "been told" to back off, that Epstein was above his pay grade. "I was told Epstein 'belonged to intelligence' and to leave it alone," he told his interviewers in the Trump transition, who evidently thought that was a sufficient answer and went ahead and hired Acosta. (The Labor Department had no comment when asked about this.) ..."
"... The Samson Option: Israel's Nuclear Arsenal and American Foreign Policy ..."
"... One theory circulating among prominent Republicans is that Epstein was a Mossad agent. Another is that the George W. Bush White House directed Acosta not to prosecute Epstein to protect Prince Andrew on behalf of the British government, then the U.S.'s closest ally in the Iraq war. ..."
Aug 19, 2019 | mondoweiss.net

... ... ...

Epstein's relationship with Ehud Barak, the former PM who is now trying to stage a comeback in Israel, has become an issue in the Israeli campaign, the New York Times reports. Epstein made what appear to be shadowy investments with Barak.

Ehud Barak, 77, a former prime minister and defense minister, received some $2.3 million in payments from [the Wexner] foundation associated with Mr. Epstein from 2004 to 2006, and Mr. Epstein invested a reported $1 million in a limited partnership established by Mr. Barak in 2015 . . .

"I never took part in any party or event with women or anything like that," Mr. Barak said, adding that in Mr. Epstein's house he had met the heads of leading American universities, philanthropists, Nobel Prize winners , older women from academia, business and law, and political figures from the Clinton, Obama and Trump circles . . .

Mr. Barak does not dispute having received some $2.3 million in three installments from the Wexner Foundation, an Ohio-based nonprofit, and its founder, Leslie H. Wexner, a retail mogul and a former close associate of Mr. Epstein's and an investor in his financial company.

Mr. Epstein was a trustee of the Wexner Foundation and one of its main donors.

The payments were registered as compensation for research, but Mr. Barak has refused to divulge any details about the research, saying that doing so could harm his future business

Rabbi Elka Abrahamson, the president of the Wexner Foundation, which provides development training for Jewish volunteer leaders and Israeli public figures, has declined to say what the research payments were for.

One of Epstein's investments in Barak, in 2015, would seem to have intelligence applications.

Israeli news media has reported that the investment was about $1 million. Mr. Barak's company, Carbyne, formerly known as Reporty Homeland Security, specializes in emergency response geo-location and live video-streaming

This brings up the intelligence angle. Federal investigators found an Austrian passport in Epstein's NY mansion with a fake name and listing an address in Saudi Arabia that Epstein reportedly used to enter four countries, "France, Spain, the United Kingdom, and Saudi Arabia."

The scandal at the heart of the new prosecution is that Epstein served only a year or so in jail on Florida solicitation charges in 2007-2008, even as his lawyers cut a non-prosecution plea deal from the feds on more serious charges. Dershowitz was a lawyer on that team . Former US attorney Alexander Acosta cut that deal, and resigned as Labor Secretary last week when it became an issue.

As the Daily Beast reports, Acosta said he went light on Epstein because of an intelligence connection.

He'd cut the non-prosecution deal with one of Epstein's attorneys because he had "been told" to back off, that Epstein was above his pay grade. "I was told Epstein 'belonged to intelligence' and to leave it alone," he told his interviewers in the Trump transition, who evidently thought that was a sufficient answer and went ahead and hired Acosta. (The Labor Department had no comment when asked about this.)

The speculation about Epstein's connections includes the fact that he was associated closely with a woman who allegedly helped bring him girl victims, Ghislaine Maxwell, who (as this news aggregator notes ), "is the daughter of Robert Maxwell, the media mogul who died under mysterious circumstances in 1991. Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh alleged in his book The Samson Option: Israel's Nuclear Arsenal and American Foreign Policy that Maxwell was tied to the Israeli Mossad. Hersh was sued for the allegation, but then received an apology ."

Gabe Sherman mentions Mossad in Vanity Fair :

One theory circulating among prominent Republicans is that Epstein was a Mossad agent. Another is that the George W. Bush White House directed Acosta not to prosecute Epstein to protect Prince Andrew on behalf of the British government, then the U.S.'s closest ally in the Iraq war.

In Epstein's 2004-2005 address book (published by Gawker) Israel has a listing among several countries (including Switzerland, Italy, France, Kenya, and Brazil). The Israel file includes future-prime-minister Ehud Olmert.

Several Israel supporters are in that address book, including former Murdoch news exec Gary Ginsberg, who wrote speeches for Netanyahu and is on the board of the Genesis Foundation, which gives prizes to Israel's friends. Also Ron Perelman, a financier and supporter of Israel.

The only thing we can be sure of in this case is that more names are likely to come out, and more speculation about how Epstein became such a wealthy international player when his financial chops were questionable to say the least.

Thanks to David Samel, Donald Johnson, and Adam Horowitz.

[Aug 20, 2019] Police Find Epstein Passport With Different Name And Saudi Arabia Residence Hallie Jackson MSNBC

Jul 15, 2019 | www.youtube.com

When Jeffrey Epstein was arrested last week, prosecutors say authorities found an expired 1980s passport, issued by an undisclosed foreign country, with Epstein's photo, a different name than his, and an address listed in Saudi Arabia, Stephnie Gosk reports.


Police Find Epstein Passport With Different Name And Saudi Arabia Residence | Hallie Jackson | MSNBC


RoNīN GaīJīN , 1 month ago

They brought up the passport because it shows evidence that he is capable of fleeing under an assumed name because he's done it before.

Idalina Oliveira , 1 month ago div class="

comment-renderer-text-content expanded"> Kudos to Miami Herald News You stuck to your story you said your story and you never gave up To all the victims the little girls who were in this ordeal God will be with you Stay strong and focused It's your turn for justice put them behind bars

sham hisham , 1 month ago

Epstein most likely ran a MOSAD operation to blackmail politicians in the U.S democrats and republicans

supreme1 , 1 month ago

Sounds like a tom cruise movie. Wtf is this guy.... . A spy prolly. Id imagine he has dirt on a lot of mf's

Vicki Ross Tudor , 1 month ago

A safe in a $77 million home filled with cash, pedophilia, fake passports and diamonds... Dude is a walking crime novel. I have no doubt that he's probably bribing the judge, prosecutors and law enforcement right now as we speak.

[Aug 19, 2019] In 2014 an onshore branch of Epstein by local pd in Miami. Everyone interviewed identified prince Andrew as the "boss"

Aug 19, 2019 | consortiumnews.com

Truth , August 16, 2019 at 11:57

In 2014 an onshore branch of Epstein(he is royal family also) was raided by local pd in Miami. Everyone interviewed identified prince Andrew as the "boss". he was booked and a few hours later doj showed up & drove him to airport where he left the country. The lady in this article filed charges against Andrew for raping her at age 14 and after. A local Female judge said her testimony was irrelevant and had had her statements stricken from the records. All this was reported in Miami newspapers but the fake deep state media quashed it all.. I read all this in the papers there as it happened. these are facts.
Epstein/Andrews activities went unchecked for over a decade as the operation contributed millions from their profits to local and state police and protected the elected who frequented this all pedophile operation, Hillary was also a customer.

[Aug 19, 2019] There is a video published by the daily mail showing Prince Andrew over at Epstein's place waving goodbye to the girls.

Aug 19, 2019 | www.unz.com

mcohen , says: August 19, 2019 at 12:18 pm GMT

Hi gilad

Why not mention prince andrew.

There is a video published by the daily mail showing him over at epsteins place waving goodbye to the girls.

Instead you are diverting attention away from all his fellow rot bags.But rest assured the evidence will come out.Jolly jumbuck,say what.

[Aug 19, 2019] Bill Clinton's Epstein Connection

Aug 19, 2019 | consortiumnews.com

The truth is that sexual abuse by the rich and famous transcends all political boundaries. Bill Clinton was very frequently on Epstein's plane and Epstein joins the very long list of those connected to the Clintons who died in dubious circumstances.

Two coincidences – the first being the bruise marks on the neck sustained in Epstein's first "suicide attempt" in jail – remind me of the case of John Ashe, the senior official very close to the Clintons who died with bruise marks on his neck, when he accidentally dropped his barbell on his throat while bench-pressing alone at home.

Ashe was charged and awaiting trial for receiving corrupt funds from businessman Ng Lap Seng while Ashe was serving in the USA's turn as president of the UN General Assembly. Ng Lap Seng, a six-time visitor to the Clinton White House, had previously been accused of making very large illegal donations to Clinton campaign funds, and was subsequently arrested while entering the USA with over $4 million in cash. Unlike the Clintons, Ashe was charged with taking Seng's money and rather like Epstein may have had an interesting song to sing while going down, had he not conveniently dropped the barbell on his throat.

I said that the first thing that jogged me to link the Epstein/Clinton and the Ashe/Clinton cases was the bruise marks on the throat. The second is that both stories have been debunked by self-proclaimed "conspiracy-busting" website Snopes – in a manner which shows that Snopes has no regard for the truth whatsoever.

In the case of John Ashe, Snopes wrote an utterly tendentious piece of "myth-busting" which stated that it was a myth that Ashe's death occurred shortly before his trial and that he was not due to testify against the Clintons. Snopes failed to mention that Ashe, a very senior Clinton appointee, was charged with taking corrupt money from precisely the same man who had been very widely accused of giving corrupt money to the Clintons. And while it was true his trial was not imminent, his pre-trial deposition was.

In the Epstein/Clinton case Snopes wrote a piece debunking the notion that this is a photograph of Bill Clinton on Epstein's private jet.

Snopes sets out to prove that this is not Epstein's private jet but that of another billionaire, and that the girl is not Rachel Chandler. For the sake of argument I am prepared to accept what they say on both counts. But is the sensible reaction to that photo to say "Oh that's OK it's another billionaire's jet" or to say "Why is Bill Clinton on a billionaire's private jet in an intimate pose with a worryingly young female?" As with the Prince Andrew photo, although it has been circulating for years, no alternative innocent explanation is on offer.

Passion for Sexual Exploitation

And the fact that this is another billionaire's plane should open again the much wider question of networks of the rich and the powerful indulging each other's passion for sexual exploitation of the young. It is a great shame that in the U.K., the Establishment has been able to characterize the falsifications of Carl Beech as discrediting the entire notion of historical child sexual abuse. It is as though one person making up stories about a bishop would mean there was never child exploitation in the Catholic Church.

The deeper question is why such a significant proportion of the rich and powerful have a propensity to want to assuage their sexual desires on the most vulnerable and powerless in society, as opposed to forming relationships among their peers. I suspect it is connected to the kind of sociopathy that leads somebody to seek or hoard power or wealth in the first place.

It is not necessary to develop that idea further, to understand that the Epstein case had given us a glimpse of criminal sexual behavior which, beyond doubt, involves many powerful people. It is essential that the threads that can be grasped are now worked on assiduously to uncover the entire network.

I am afraid to say I suspect the chances of that actually happening are very slim indeed.

Craig Murray is an author, broadcaster and human rights activist. He was British ambassador to Uzbekistan from August 2002 to October 2004 and rector of the University of Dundee from 2007 to 2010.


James Nelson , August 15, 2019 at 13:39

Famous people are asked to pose for pictures with others constantly. This is a rather thin reed to base a murder for hire charge. Let's provide more information and less innuendo. The rich and famous have left many shallow graves in their wake that warrant investigative digging. I sometimes think this kind of diversion serves their interests

Bif Webster , August 19, 2019 at 12:23

True. However, why did the Clinton's continue to do "business" with Epstein AFTER he was convicted?

Thelma Annes de Araujo , August 14, 2019 at 20:58

Carol, I suggest you read the three parts of Whitney Webb's report published by Mint Press. Here's the link for Part III, where you can also find links for Part I and Part II. Part III is rather long but definitely worth reading in full. There you will find what you're looking for Enjoy!
https://www.mintpressnews.com/mega-group-maxwells-mossad-spy-story-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/261172/?fbclid=IwAR3wcnnaVF0VOn4gYHs0gDc1-MOhVaLOry2e6JcVY8e5_oP0rq37PLM1jsw

willliam driscoll , August 14, 2019 at 20:36

The real question for me is why these people do not just pay for high priced beautiful prostitutes of legal age rather than risk their reputation, standing in society and possible jail time and law suits rather than by satisfying their sexual desires on underage and vulnerable children. The only answer that comes to mind is that there are people out their that are willing to provide these children for free in exchange for favors of money, power, political policy or some gain from blackmail.

I have dated fairly wealthy women and some that were lobbyists. I was surprised at the sense of entitlement from both the lobbyist and the veteran politicians in the way they did business. I understood quickly it was very much of the culture in the environment in which they worked. Every one was motivated to cower to each other for their own self interest whether it was maintaining or furthering their political career or enlarging their money interests by representing their clients that wanting to serve their own self interest in the political process.

To me the whole underlying common denominator is that there is no accountability for their actions and because of it they are able to maintain there behavior without any risk of sacrifice.

I remember in school the saying laws exist to prevent chaos in society, but it matters not if laws are enacted if they are not enforced to everyone equally. That statue of the lady of justice wearing a blindfold to represent justice equally for all I never seen in person but I have a feeling she is either a bundle of money behind her back or seeking a lucrative political appointment.

John Drake , August 14, 2019 at 20:13

The fact that Slick Willy would let his picture be taken with his arm around that pathetic young girl shows how above the law and social norms he thinks he is. On the other hand, if Hillary sees it he might be in for another black eye from her.

Bradley Anbro , August 14, 2019 at 20:43

I doubt very much that Bill Clinton worries about what Hillary "thinks" -- if she had any morals, she would have left him when
the Monica Lewinsky affair became public. She didn't -- because she's in it for the MONEY

[Aug 19, 2019] Maxwell asked court to keep Epstein papers sealed

Aug 19, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

Mina , Jul 19 2019 11:32 utc | 107

Behind paywall
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-18/epstein-s-socialite-pal-maxwell-asks-court-to-keep-files-sealed

[Aug 19, 2019] The labelling of a hypothesis as "conspiracy theory" is an attempt to erase uncomfortable evidence by re-prioritising the relevance of certain facts

Aug 19, 2019 | www.unz.com

Jewish economist Murray Rothbard contrasts "deep" conspiracy theories with "shallow" ones. According to Rothbard, a shallow theorist observes an event and asks, who benefits? He or she then jumps to the conclusion that the posited beneficiary is responsible for covertly influencing events. Under this theory, Israel benefiting from the events of 9/11 made it into a prime suspect. This is often a completely legitimate strategy and is exactly how detective and investigative researchers operate. In order to identify the culprit, they may well ask who would benefit from the crime. Of course this is only a first step towards substantiation.

According to Rothbard the "deep" conspiracy theorist begins with a hunch and then seeks out evidence. Rothbard describes deep conspiracy theory as the result of confirming whether certain facts actual fit one's initial 'paranoia.' This explanation pretty much describes a lot of how science works. Any given scientific theory defines the realm of facts that may support or refute its validity. Science is a deductive reasoning process, so that in science, it is the theory that defines the relevance of the evidence. Would Rothbard describe Newtonian physics as 'deeply conspiratorial'? I doubt it. My guess is that, bearing Rothbard in mind, attributing a 'conspiratorial nature' to a theory is an attempt the deny the relevance of the evidence it brings to light.

If for instance, the theory that Epstein was a Mossad agent is 'conspiratorial,' then the facts that he was a business partner of Ehud Barak and involved in a company that uses Israeli military intelligence tactics become irrelevant. The same applies to former Federal Prosecutor Alex Acosta's admission that Epstein belonged to intelligence and that was why he was the beneficiary of a laughable plea deal. If, for example, the theory that it was the Jews who led the 1917 Bolshevik revolution is 'conspiratorial,' then the facts regarding the demography that led the revolution and its criminal nature are of no consequence.

The labelling of a theory as conspiratorial is an attempt to erase uncomfortable evidence by reprioritising the relevance of certain facts.

[Aug 19, 2019] Does insanity of Maher reflects insanity of the US neoliberal elite as a whole

Aug 19, 2019 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

Whoa Molly! , July 28, 2018 at 7:31 am

Maher comes across as literally unhinged. Insane.

As James Howard Kunstler said recently, " I think that the thinking class in the United States has literally lost its mind. Donald Trump's persona is so odious that it's just driven them mad and he's like a giant splinter in the eye of the thinking class ."

I don't get it. Either Maher is part of the thinking class that has lost it's mind, or he's a destructive, cynical (familyblog) who is deliberately inflaming his 'Liberal Goodthinking' audience and gaslighting Wilkerson.

The LIberal Goodthinkers have gone so crazy they are making Trump look good.

Dangerous times.

PS: Thanks for term "Liberal Goodthinkers". Pretty good.

juliania , July 28, 2018 at 10:35 am

It's the thinking class versus the deplorables. And the former is enabling the latter in no uncertain terms. This period of lunacy won't be forgotten come voting time. Whereas, had the dems gracefully accepted defeat and concentrated on real issues that concern us all, they might have had a shot at the midterm merrygoround. Instead, they chose to keep the failed slurs of the last campaign a topic of conversation all the way through, as in fact the term 'transition' on these boards does as well. Transition = transitory.

Something is making Trump a very viable stayer through these turbulent times, and the minefield that these people have turned being President into is a sad commentary on the state of our union. But like the sanctions that are unthinkingly dispersed hither and yon, the blowback can be supercharged, and I can't think of more worthy recipients.

Damson , July 29, 2018 at 10:43 am

The Chattering Class is the UK term.. 'Thinking' is rather too generous for the mind-drool exemplified by Maher and his ilk

NotTimothyGeithner , July 28, 2018 at 9:09 am

Maher was a long time libertarian, and with the rightward shift of Team Blue and medical Marijuana (after all we still need to arrest minorities), Bill became a "liberal" type. He's still the same POS he was in the 90's.

Ur-Blintz , July 28, 2018 at 10:03 am

Bingo! How he ever fooled anyone into thinking he was less than a narcissistic, libertarian. money grubbing sociopath is beyond me. First time I saw him, way back when, he was railing against Social Security and he is perhaps most responsible for making a celebrity out of Arianna Huffington, giving her a nationwide pulpit on his original show when she was repulsively right-wing.

[Aug 19, 2019] La Danse Mossad: Robert Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein by Jennifer Matsui

Notable quotes:
"... Notice a similar, if not identical MO in both Maxwell and Epstein's role in procuring technology for the Israelis, who in turn sold it with undisclosed add-ons, providing an open window into its users' databases. ..."
"... Like his predecessor, Epstein had a financial stake in a startup (headed by former Israeli Defense Minister and later Prime Minister Ehud Barak) connected to Israel's defense industry that provides infrastructure for emergency services as a call handling platform. Considering the company's connection to military intelligence, it wouldn't be a stretch to speculate on some of this software's other 'special' features. ..."
"... Epstein, like Maxwell, was laying the groundwork for Israeli espionage activities through his interests in companies with a political agenda concealed in products intended for international export. ..."
"... Were the surveillance apparatuses installed throughout Epstein's properties merely a voyeur's tools, or did he use them to leverage the moral failings of his former friends for purposes that might have risked exposure of more than the nether regions of wealthy pedo-punters? Considering his connections to Israeli defense industries and his own Achilles penis that required, by his own admission, "three orgasms a day", the answer points to an unslakable addiction that dovetailed conveniently with his state-sponsored sex crimes. ..."
"... Epstein could have also attempted to collateralize the cache of damning evidence still in his possession to secure his his freedom with the same fatal consequences. ..."
"... The establishment media is already trotting out ancient, ding-a-ling conspiracy theories from obscure right wing sources (attributed to Russia, of course) to highlight the absurdity and futility of questioning the official story of Epstein's death. Verdict: Nothing to see here. ..."
"... the parasitic and preferred daughter of the deceased tycoon, made the fateful introduction between her new boyfriend and the Israeli operatives seeking an entry level plutocrat to carry out their blackmail operations after the untimely death of his predecessor. An impoverished socialite has to survive in pricey Manhattan somehow, and that somehow was re-establishing the shady connections to the espionage underworld that had recruited Maxwell Sr. ..."
"... Ghislaine's later role as Epstein's Chief Procurement Officer (or pimp for short) gives more credence to the rumors that she is more than just a debased, barnacle-like appendage to a billionaire, desperate to please her platonic partner by "organizing his social life", but a fully cognizant co-conspirator in an operation aimed at strengthening Israel's hand in all matters pertaining to its national security interests, or more accurately, its overseas criminal enterprises ..."
Aug 16, 2019 | www.counterpunch.org
Media tycoon and former Labour MP Robert Maxwell (father of Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein's partner in crime) was given a state funeral in Jerusalem after *accidentally* falling off his yacht – the unluckily named "Lady Ghislaine". Later it was revealed Maxwell Sr was a Mossad asset who used his vast network of connections and publishing platforms to run editorial interference over his purchased assets to influence enemies and friends alike, ensuring their fealty to the foreign government that had enlisted him for its espionage work.

His tabloid empire was the piss-colored propaganda organ of the interests he served, overseeing its rapid growth and tentacled reach across the globe. More ominously, he was behind the spy agency's successful attempt to install a trapdoor in software intended for government use, allowing the Israelis a direct pipeline into a vast network of computers installed with undectable malware.

At the time of his death, the disgraced magnate was under investigation for raiding his companies' pension funds to cover the losses incurred from his multiple and reckless takeovers, and finance a luxury lifestyle he enjoyed sharing with high profile pals like Henry Kissinger and Barbara Walters. Curiously, many of these fossilized specimens from Robert Maxwell's roster of friends from the Reagan era would circle around Epstein, most notably Donald Trump whose Mar-a-Lago resort would later become a recruiting center for employer Epstein's underage "massage therapists".

Fast forward a couple of decades since the days a casino mogul was gobbling down canapés with the old guard denizens of the 'swamp'. Notice a similar, if not identical MO in both Maxwell and Epstein's role in procuring technology for the Israelis, who in turn sold it with undisclosed add-ons, providing an open window into its users' databases.

Like his predecessor, Epstein had a financial stake in a startup (headed by former Israeli Defense Minister and later Prime Minister Ehud Barak) connected to Israel's defense industry that provides infrastructure for emergency services as a call handling platform. Considering the company's connection to military intelligence, it wouldn't be a stretch to speculate on some of this software's other 'special' features.

A variation of the early technology that Maxwell was able to procure for his Israeli bosses was later sold to the Saudis, who leveraged its sophisticated tracking features to assassinate Jamal Khashoggi.

Epstein, like Maxwell, was laying the groundwork for Israeli espionage activities through his interests in companies with a political agenda concealed in products intended for international export. If true, the playboy philanthropist feted and flattered his high profile friends to ensnare them as complicit partners in what amounts to the legal definition of treason. Epstein's covert activities have undiminished real world consequences for anyone on Israel's international radar, especially those challenging the status quo policies in place that prioritize "The Jewish State's" political and financial objectives over actual justice and global stability.

If you have ever asked yourself why Israel's war crimes and settlement expansion go unchallenged by US lawmakers, consider the career destroying consequences contained within those dossiers compiled by the braintrust behind Epstein's 'suicide'. "We'll trade you one US Embassy in Jerusalem for 10 minutes of hidden camera footage of you . . . let's say 'enjoying' a rolled up Forbes magazine".

Were the surveillance apparatuses installed throughout Epstein's properties merely a voyeur's tools, or did he use them to leverage the moral failings of his former friends for purposes that might have risked exposure of more than the nether regions of wealthy pedo-punters? Considering his connections to Israeli defense industries and his own Achilles penis that required, by his own admission, "three orgasms a day", the answer points to an unslakable addiction that dovetailed conveniently with his state-sponsored sex crimes.

Did Epstein make the same mistake of Maxwell (who had asked for nearly half a billion dollar in "loans" from his Israeli backers to relieve him of his mounting debts) believing the dirt he had in his possession would prove radioactive if released? By this time, the corpulent tycoon was nicknamed the 'Bouncing Czech' a reference in most part to his worsening money woes. The implication of this request, if turned down, was the exposure of Israel's state secrets. Epstein could have also attempted to collateralize the cache of damning evidence still in his possession to secure his his freedom with the same fatal consequences.

Both Maxwell and Epstein somehow evaded the electronics that linked them to the outside world at the time of their deaths, even though the latter had reportedly made an attempt on his own life while in custody. Both men, facing ruination and serious prison time gave their executioners an alibi: They had nothing to left to live for. The establishment media is already trotting out ancient, ding-a-ling conspiracy theories from obscure right wing sources (attributed to Russia, of course) to highlight the absurdity and futility of questioning the official story of Epstein's death. Verdict: Nothing to see here.

By now, it's a given that the parasitic and preferred daughter of the deceased tycoon, made the fateful introduction between her new boyfriend and the Israeli operatives seeking an entry level plutocrat to carry out their blackmail operations after the untimely death of his predecessor. An impoverished socialite has to survive in pricey Manhattan somehow, and that somehow was re-establishing the shady connections to the espionage underworld that had recruited Maxwell Sr.

Ghislaine's later role as Epstein's Chief Procurement Officer (or pimp for short) gives more credence to the rumors that she is more than just a debased, barnacle-like appendage to a billionaire, desperate to please her platonic partner by "organizing his social life", but a fully cognizant co-conspirator in an operation aimed at strengthening Israel's hand in all matters pertaining to its national security interests, or more accurately, its overseas criminal enterprises.

The recent raid on Epstein's Manhattan apartment was not the result of a so-called Justice Department righting the egregious wrong it committed by letting Epstein off with a slap on the wrist after his initial conviction that allowed him to serve his sentence largely outside the minimum-security facility with an open door policy for its billionaire guest. More likely, the reversal of Epstein's "sweetheart" deal was a joint operation between the oligarch cabal informally known as the Mega-Group, and the state security apparatuses that do their bidding.

It's seems likely that this sudden pivot towards justice from a Justice Department initially spooked into inaction by the spook in his custody, was motivated by the need to remove the most damning bits among Epstein's vast trove of physical evidence against the pervy punters who visited his island getaway for unintended photo ops with underage girls.

Perhaps his own abuse of these minors was a perk he felt entitled to, and one that would be overlooked in the service of "national security". It's hard for most people to differentiate between the government he actually worked for and the ruling establishment on his home turf.

It's possible that Epstein felt his serial transgressions were merely par for the plutocracy and justified in the service of a higher calling.

The 'Israel First' philanthropist shared an unyielding ideological justification for his own criminality as Robert Maxwell, whom the British Home Office had considered recruiting for its own intelligence gathering in the mid 1960's. Having determined that the well-connected, multilingual, rising star politician was strictly "Zionist", the spy agency withdrew his candidacy.

Epstein's real crimes had little to do with raping children, despite the overturned plea deal that came about when a federal judge ruled that prosecutors had violated the victims rights by by concealing the agreement from them. The one time teflon-coated "member of intelligence" who was "above the pay grade" of a powerful District Attorney (now a now scandal-tainted former Labor Secretary) was ultimately (and lethally) penalized for not destroying the contents of his secret-laden safes, leaving his handlers still vulnerable to their explosive contents.

Had the doomed financier divested himself of the toxic assets still in his possession, he might still be roaming the earth today, scouring it for new specimens to populate his underage petting zoo. As a result of the Justice Department's decision to reverse the non-prosecution deal meant to bury the most incendiary facts of the case, lower-rung punters like former governor Bill Richardson and Senator George Mitchell are being publicly named for their part in the sordid scandal. Someone has to take the fall. (Rule number one of PR crisis management: Crucify the insignificant and let them hang out to dry until the public tires of watching the slow motion spectacle of their undoing.) Meanwhile, documented and/or photographic evidence against more powerful players like Bill Clinton and Donald Trump will have already been destroyed in the pursuit of selective justice.

The fallout of Epstein's spectacular downfall predictably miss the mark as scandals involving the rich and powerful tend to do. Much of the controversy will dissolve into a Cheetoh dust maelstrom of disinformation, disseminated on Reddit and 4Chan by incel info-warriors before shooting up a shopping mall or playground.

Subsequent reporting of the case will overlook decades of the elite-driven state craft that elevated corrupt and ruthless entities like Epstein and Trump, both ring-kissing acolytes in their youth of influential mob fixer/politcal power broker Roy Cohn – himself a serial sexual predator who similarly caught the fancy of fellow deviants Joe McCarthy and J. Edgar Hoover. Follow the money trail from Tel Aviv and you'll discover an ancestral link between the corpse of Epstein and his ghostly godfathers waiting with his rewards in hell.

Along with the other disgraced and expendable patsies left in the wake of this ongoing scandal is Alan Dershowitz, Epstein's octogenarian chief legal counsel and 'wing man' aboard the Lolita Express. The now unemployable cable news pundit will live out the remainder of his pointless life under a cloud of suspicion. Despite all the damning testimony against him, the statutory rape allegations never quite stick, but follow him around like a sneaky fart, forcing a distance between himself and the rest of humanity that will last until he is engulfed by the sulfurous fumes of his own making.

The former Harvard law professor's lifelong service to Israel will go unrewarded – not as a result of victim testimony placing him at multiple crime scenes, but in consideration of his own inept self-defense strategy: "I'm a scurvy rat aboard a sinking ship eating its own tail to stay alive. Pity me"! Dershowitz at this point will be lucky if he can achieve the same pay grade and social status of Lindsay Lohan. Ditto for Prince Andrew who can at least be relied on to expire slowly of gout in his time-out corner at Windsor Castle.

The moral of this story could be "Lie down with dogs and never wake up agan with a prison-issued sheet around your neck". A variation of the old "Lie down with dogs and and wake up as fish food".

[Aug 19, 2019] After Allegations Of Druggings And Rape, Epstein-Pal And His Modeling Agencies Come Into Focus

Aug 19, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

After Allegations Of Druggings And Rape, Epstein-Pal And His Modeling Agencies Come Into Focus

by Tyler Durden Mon, 08/19/2019 - 11:15 0 SHARES

Following the death of Jeffrey Epstein, his seedy network of friends and potential co-conspirators alike have come into the spotlight.

One associate, considered to be Epstein's closest pal, is modeling maven Jean-Luc Brunel - who has recently been accused of pimping underage women around the world through his Mc2 and Karin modeling agencies, while former models have accused the 72-year-old of drugging and date-raping girls , according to the Daily Beast .

How close were Brunel and Epstein?

Brunel was one of the financier's most frequent male associates . The agent appears more than 15 times on flight logs from Epstein's private plane , jetting everywhere from Paris to New York, often in the presence of young women. He visited Epstein nearly 70 times in jail , according to visitor logs, and several more times while the financier was on house arrest in Palm Beach. According to one of Epstein's housemen, Brunel was comfortable enough to whip up his own meals in the financier's kitchen , and was one of Epstein's most frequent callers. - Daily Beast

Brunel's name appeared in a cache of court documents unsealed earlier this month, having called and left a message to let Epstein know that he "just did a good one - 18 years" who reportedly told him "I love Jeffrey."

"He has a teacher for you to teach you how to speak Russian," reads another note from September 2005, which adds " She is 2 X 8 [16] years old not blonde . Lessons are free and you can have 1st today if you call."

Epstein also extended a $1 million letter of credit to Brunel which was used to invest in Paris-based Elite Models. According to the Beast, "The venture, E Management, was first registered by Epstein's attorney, who listed its address as 457 Madison Avenue -- the same as Epstein's investment firm, J. Epstein & Co." Brunel says the venture fell apart after Elite Models learned of Epstein's sex-trafficking allegations - with the agent even suing Epstein in 2015 for tarnishing their reputation and causing a "tremendous loss of business."

At least two people say Brunel not only knew about the sex trafficking, he was actively participating in it .

Virginia Roberts (now Giuffre) -- one of the first alleged victims to speak out against Epstein after he was granted a sweetheart plea deal -- claimed in legal filings that Brunel was one of many powerful men she was forced to sleep with in her years as Epstein's "sex slave." She also accused Brunel of using his agency to find foreign girls, obtain visas for them, and "farm them out to his friends, including Epstein ."

"A lot of the girls came from poor countries or poor backgrounds, and he lured them in with a promise of making good money," Giuffre said in a 2015 affidavit. " Jeffrey Epstein has told me that he has slept with over 1,000 of Brunel's girls, and everything that I have seen confirms this claim. " - Daily Beast

" My assumption was that Jean-Luc Brunel got the girls from Eastern Europe (as he procured many young foreign girls for Epstein). They were young and European looking and sounding ," said Guiffre while describing an orgy she says she was forced to participate in on Epstein's 'pedo island.'

In a 1988 60 Minutes piece, several American models who worked with Brunel spoke of being plied with drugs and taken to parties with older men .

"My sense, based upon the allegations, is that Jean-Luc was a predator, his group was a predator, and they used their tools of power and leverage to force sex from women who otherwise might not be willing to engage in it," one of the reporters from the 60 Minutes piece told the Daily Beast .

Former model Thysia Huisman was 18-years-old when she says Brunel sexually assaulted her after giving her a spiked drink .

" I recall him lying on top of me, me trying to push him off, " she said in an interview. "I remember trying to move, but not really being able to. Like almost being paralysed. I heard the sound of my blouse – a black blouse – ripping. I had a black skirt, too. I felt him – this is difficult – between my legs. Pushing."

Huisman said the rest was a blur. She woke the next morning in a kimono that wasn't hers, with soreness on her inner thighs. "I felt we had had sex," she said. "I knew. I know."

She gathered her things and fled while Brunel spoke on the telephone in the living room, she said. Her modelling work never recovered and she embarked on a career in television, always behind the camera.

...

"I was really ashamed," she said. Huisman said she began telling her current partner about the incident eight years ago. He confirmed to the Guardian she then told him she was "molested" by someone at her modelling agency, and added more details – including Brunel's name – over time, explaining the full story about two years ago. - The Guardian

Another former model, Courtney Soerensen, says Brunel molested her when she was 19-years-old, and "sabotaged" her career when she rejected him.

Courtney Soerensen, Thysia Huisman

"He would get very handsy, start groping me, try to kiss me, try to get me to lay down on the bed just to 'try it out'" said Soerensen. "He would try to untuck my shirt, wanting to 'see my abs'. He would grab my breasts and put his hand on my bottom. There was one time where he rubbed himself up against me. "

" The guy was a vile pig" says former Brunel photographer and scout Clayton Nelson. "The girls who slept with him worked. The girls who didn't, he would tell bookers: 'I don't want her booked for anything'."

Former MC2 bookkeeper Martina Vasquez has also accused Brunel of similar behavior, claiming that Brunel employed scouts who would recruit teenage models from South America, Europe and the former USSR. " The most desirable of those teens were housed in Epstein's Upper East Side apartments and loaned out to wealthy clients for up to $100,000 a night, Vasquez alleged. If they refused to be "molested," she said, they would not be paid. (Brunel has denied these claims and says Vasquez was fired from his agency for embezzling company funds.)" according to the report.

Bloomberg , meanwhile, reports that MC2 Model Management had a growing list of concerned corporate clients by 2014 after Brunel's ties to Epstein came to light.

By 2014, Brunel's business partner Jeff Fuller was concerned that the relationship with Epstein could be damaging. In a letter reviewed by Bloomberg News, Fuller told Brunel that he was getting a "tremendous amount of worries from our clients" about the ties to Epstein , then went on to list as clients Nordstrom Inc., Macy's Inc., Saks Fifth Avenue, Neiman Marcus, J.C. Penney Co., Kohl's Corp., Target Corp., Sears and Belk . - Bloomberg

Brunel has denied all allegations of impropriety.

amadeus39 , 1 minute ago link

Molesting children is an abominable crime, but using that information to blackmail country leaders effects many more people. Using blackmail to gain political control will destroy nations and its citizens. It will destroy civilization. This Epstink plot will destroy trust of government. Once trust is destroyed, our world is destroyed.

nmewn , 13 minutes ago link

Jean-Luc Brunel, sounds Irish to me!

https://nypost.com/2019/08/13/french-officials-call-for-probe-into-epsteins-links-with-france/

Oh, I guess not ;-)

[Aug 19, 2019] Link to Edgar Bronfman: in 1981 he was fired from Bear Sterns for helping Edgar Bronfman in an insider trading scandal, which Bronfman blamed on his (phantom) Italian partner.

Aug 19, 2019 | www.unz.com

Tired of Not Winning , says: July 9, 2019 at 3:20 am GMT

This Epstein story is huge. I think Amazing Polly is just touching on the surface:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Vc-uysS6Tlw?start=1&feature=oembed

Epstein dropped out of Cooper Union and NYU at age 20, but mysteriously got a job teaching calculus and physics at the prestigious Dalton school in NYC. He was hired by then headmaster Donald Barr (born Jewish converted to Catholicism), father of current AG William Barr. A year later Donald Barr was forced out by a group of Dalton parents for not being "progressive" enough and replaced by a guy named Dunnan, who was later accused of having an affair with a teacher and also sexually molesting a 14 year old.

While at Dalton, Epstein taught the son of Bear Sterns CEO Ace Greenberg, and ended up working at Bear Sterns. Five years later in 1981 he was fired from Bear Sterns for helping Edgar Bronfman in an insider trading scandal, which Bronfman blamed on his (phantom) Italian partner.

Bronfman' and his two daughters have been embroiled in the NXIVM sex scandal case. Meanwhile, Epstein somehow got his start thanks to one major "investor", billionaire Les Wexner, founder of the Limited, Abercombie & Fitch, Victoria's Secret etc. Bronfman and Wexner co-founded mega, a Jewish organization that promotes Israel.

Epstein-Bronfman smells like a giant international Jew crime network that involves blackmailing of wealthy people, celebrities and politicians for having sex with underage girls. It's how Epstein gained his wealth. He had no money to start out. His "hedge fund" is nothing but a fake front for billionaires to wire their ransom money, which is why it is established offshore and so secretive. There has been two huge fires at his private island in BVI btwn 2018 and Jan. 2019. Speculation is that lots of incriminating video footage was burnt, but of course Epstein kept copies, and Mossad most likely has them as well. Got to keep the blackmailing of our political and economic elites going. Israhell has a right to exist.

[Aug 19, 2019] The scandal is about the Mega Group

Notable quotes:
"... The scandal is about the Mega Group [Bonfman and Wexner and the assorted group of other Israel-firsters with the ties to Mossad] ..."
"... Both Epstein and Bill Browder got started working for Maxwell. Why is nobody talking about Bill Browder's Epstein/Maxwell/Mossad connection? ..."
Aug 19, 2019 | www.unz.com

Anonymous [373] Disclaimer , says: August 18, 2019 at 2:12 pm GMT

One just wonders (but I have read no-one raising this question) why Epstein stopped being useful, why was his "business" dismantled.
All further steps, "suicide" comprised, are standard operation.

annamaria , says: August 19, 2019 at 3:35 pm GMT

@mcohen Learn, "mcohen," learn: https://www.mintpressnews.com/mega-group-maxwells-mossad-spy-story-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/261172/
https://www.mintpressnews.com/shocking-origins-jeffrey-epstein-blackmail-roy-cohn/260621/
https://www.mintpressnews.com/blackmail-jeffrey-epstein-trump-mentor-reagan-era/260760/

The scandal is about the Mega Group [Bonfman and Wexner and the assorted group of other Israel-firsters with the ties to Mossad], Maxwells [the old embezzler and his daughter the pimp, both tied to Mossad] and Mossad: "The Spy Story at the Heart of the Jeffrey Epstein Scandal."

Iris , says: August 18, 2019 at 8:55 pm GMT
@Anon

The end: blackmail the "elite" clients on behalf of a foreign intelligence service.

Thanks for posting this most interesting and edifying story about Israeli decade-long, standard practice, of using sex trafficking to blackmail and control politicians.

Although Shulamit Cohen's story is highly embellished by official historiography, she herself started working as a prostitute. The Syrian military she trapped was Adib Al Shishkali, who went on to become Syria's president.

The young girl she used to bait her "clients" was a 14-year Armenian youngster called Lucy Kobelian.

http://www.kawther.info/wpr/terrorists/shula-cohen-israeli-first-madam

annamaria , says: August 19, 2019 at 11:49 am GMT
@Anonymous Case in study -- Ben Cardin, the Israel-firster and promoter of Bill Browder http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/is-bill-browder-the-most-dangerous-man-in-the-world/

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-18/la-danse-mossad-robert-maxwell-and-jeffrey-epstein
Comment section:

Both Epstein and Bill Browder got started working for Maxwell. Why is nobody talking about Bill Browder's Epstein/Maxwell/Mossad connection?

annamaria , says: August 19, 2019 at 3:12 pm GMT
@Iris Interesting: http://www.kawther.info/wpr/terrorists/shula-cohen-israeli-first-madam

One of Mossad' main modes of operation is prostitution. Not surprising. The Jewish tribe is exceptional in having as its heroines a set of prostituting women -- Esther, Judith, Dalila. No wonder that the orthodox Jews treat women like filth. All within the national tradition.

In 1967, Shulamit Cohen, Rachel Raffoul and two of the Jewish prostitutes were released in a secret prisoner exchange after the Six Day War: they were exchanged against three officers of the Syrian air force (the official version states that they were exchanged for "over 500 prisoners").

Today Shula is a national hero of Israel and her story has been whitewashed and made "apt for public consumption". She lives in the neighborhood of the ultra-Orthodox Jewish fundamentalists, the Haredim, who are probably ignorant of her past.

https://www.haaretz.com/1.5223302 "Orthodox Jews treat women like filtfhy little things:"

And if a man and a woman are drowning in a river, first they'll save the man, "who is obligated to perform more commandments," whereas a woman's "wisdom is only in the spindle." In fact, "words of Torah should be burned rather than being given to women."

A man must say three blessings every day during morning prayers: He thanks God "that He didn't make me a gentile, that He didn't make me a woman, that He didn't make me an ignoramus."

[Aug 18, 2019] The best way to get at some semblance of the truth is to follow the money. Epstein seems to have appeared virtually out of nowhere as a made man. Wexner appears to have gifted him a $56 million heavily bugged mansion. What does this tell us?

Aug 18, 2019 | off-guardian.org

mark It seems obvious that Epstein was murdered, but in reality this is just a side issue.
The MSM will happily carry on sending people down rabbit holes for ever, and ignoring the real questions.
They would like nothing more than to turn this into another JFK, where people speculate endlessly, generating more heat than light. Just what motivated Epstein? Money? Vice? Paedo sex? Spying and blackmailing for Israel? All of the above? Where did his loyalties lie? Was he just a hired hand, an intelligence operative, another Christopher Steele? Or was he more of a gun for hire, an Erik Prince, serving Mossad, the CIA, the Zionist Lobby, or whoever would pay him? Or was he more of his own boss, running his own organisation in his own interests? What about Ghislaine Maxwell? Was she just Epstein's pimp and loyal lieutenant, carrying out his orders? Or was she his Mossad handler, calling the shots, with Epstein as front man?

The best way to get at some semblance of the truth is to follow the money. Epstein seems to have appeared virtually out of nowhere as a made man. Wexner appears to have gifted him a $56 million heavily bugged mansion. What does this tell us?

Surprisingly, Maxwell has not gone to ground as expected. She made an exhibition of herself in LA a few days ago, ostentatiously eating a burger in public with a little dog in tow, reading a book about the CIA.

I think the stage is being set for an Oprah or Anderson Cooper style interview, presenting herself as the victim. Now that Epstein is dead, it will be in the interests of a lot of people to load everything on to his deceased shoulders. "I loved Jeffrey .but he was a monster ..he made me do terrible things ..I was frightened of him ..I'm a victim too."

This will probably be coordinated with a smear campaign against the victims, trying to dig up dirt about things like drugs, any criminal or mental health history, and any other issues.

One interesting detail to emerge from the search of Epstein's property is that he had a painting of Bill Clinton in drag, wearing a blue dress, like that of Monica Lewinsky, on his toilet wall. This is probably a case of gloating over the entrapment of Clinton. This somewhat grubby little episode occurred around the time of the Oslo peace deal, when Peres, Barak and Co. were under some pressure to negotiate seriously with the Palestinians, and facing criticism over settlements. Clinton was also under pressure from Zionist interests to release the Jewish/ Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard, imprisoned for treason/ espionage. This is reminiscent of the transvestite J. Edgar Hoover, who was being blackmailed by Meyer Lansky with photographs of him and Claude Tolson wearing dresses.

Dershowitz is another highly dubious character whose involvement warrants serious scrutiny. He previously defended OJ Simson and Spectre. He will probably spearhead a campaign to discredit the witnesses.

Fortunately, this can't be buried completely, even if Maxwell and others escape prosecution. There are a number of outstanding civil claims which will generate even more publicity than would otherwise be the case.

[Aug 18, 2019] The debate over whether Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide or not is a pseudo-debate meant to keep people spinning their wheels over nothing

Death thus becomes a reward of escape from truth, consequences and responsibility; a blind defiance set against honesty and justice.
Aug 18, 2019 | off-guardian.org

It attracts attention and will do so for many days to come. There are even some usually astute people suggesting that he may not be dead but might have been secretly whisked off somewhere and replaced with a dead look-alike.

Now, who would profit from suggesting something as insane as this?

The speculation runs rampant and feeds the spectacle. Whether he was allowed to kill himself or was killed makes little difference.

It's akin to asking who pulled the trigger that killed President Kennedy. That's a debate that was intended to go nowhere, as it has, after it became apparent that Lee Harvey Oswald surely did not kill JFK. John Kennedy's murder in broad daylight in public view is the paradigmatic event of modern times. It is obvious to anyone that gives minimal study to the issue that it was organized and carried out by elements within the national security state, notably the CIA.

Their message was meant to be unequivocal and clear: We can kill him and we can kill you; we are in full control; beware. Then they went on to kill others, including RFK and MLK. It takes little intelligence to see this obvious fact, unless you wish not to or are totally lost in the neighborhood of make-believe.

As it was with Jack Ruby killing Lee Harvey Oswald, so it is with Epstein. There will be no trial. Nothing is really hidden except the essential truth. Guess, debate, wonder, watch, read to your sad heart's content. You will have gotten nowhere unless you step outside the frame of the reigning narrative.


nottheonly1

Those of us who oppose these criminals – and there are growing numbers all over the world – must avoid being sucked into the establishment narratives and the counter-narratives they spawn or create. We must refuse to get involved in pseudo-debates that are meant to lead nowhere. We must reject the language created to confuse.

To arrive at this conclusion is an attest of the deepest truth a mind can grasp. If I could only talk to someone as astute as You. This is not flattery, but the mere realization, that there is nobody in my surroundings that possesses Your ability to make such a point.

That there are now so few people that can have this insight is the result of the absence of philosophy from our lives. It is philosophy who opens the mind and therefore it had to be removed from society. People are well advised to look into it, to overcome this barrage of fabricated narratives.

Tim Hall
We have little or no true understanding to the degree that propaganda has been scientifically applied (estimated number engaged on this insidious activity 50,000 in 1991, under the all powerful Tavistock Institute) over 73 years to brainwashing and misdirecting the populations perception of reality – your article reflects this fact. CIA, Deep State et al are simply agents of a far bigger entity who's accumulated power and reach, built up assiduously over centuries, has now reached an unassailable level of control over the world which it intends to effectively own.

I suggest all readers refer to the following link to appreciate the futility of humanity's current position in regard to it's ability to resist the coming onslaught to its survival.

https://www.cia.gov/library/abbottabad-compound/4A/4A92FD2FB4DAE3F773DB0B7742CF0F65_Coleman.-.CONSPIRATORS.HIERARCHY.-.THE.STORY.OF.THE.COMMITTEE.OF.300.R.pdf

Edward, this sentiment is laudable, but they hold such a grip on mass psychological control that such sentiments represent chaff on the wind.

If revolutionary change is to come, we must learn to tell a new story in language so beautiful, illuminating, and heart-rending that no one will listen to the lying words of child molesters, mass murderers, and those who hate and persecute truth-tellers.

mark
In Britain, the post mortem, by a Home Office pathologist, would establish the physical cause of death.
Sometimes this is delayed in waiting for toxicology results.
Probably "Suspension" (Hanging.)
Any separate injuries or existing medical conditions would be noted in the post mortem report.

In the absence of any police criminal investigation, it would then be for a Coroner's Inquest, almost certainly sitting with a jury, to give a verdict.

Suicide, accidental death, misadventure, unlawful killing, open verdict.

It is for the Coroner's Court to examine the evidence and arrive at a verdict.
If there is doubt or uncertainty, there is the option of an Open Verdict.
Hanging could lead to a verdict of accident or misadventure in certain circumstances.
There was a case where a group of youths saw that someone had left a noose hanging from a tree in a park. One of them, larking around, put his head in the noose and accidentally hanged himself.

The US system seems to short circuit the decision making process of the Coroner's Court.
This appears to be no more than an opinion by the medical examiner, sometimes misleadingly referred to as the Coroner.
There seems to be no equivalent to the Coroner's Court.

William H Booby
He killed himself and the proof is the BBC said it, anyone who disagrees wears a tinfoil hat

[Aug 17, 2019] La Danse Mossad: Robert Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein by Jennifer Matsui

Notable quotes:
"... His tabloid empire was the piss-colored propaganda organ of the interests he served, overseeing its rapid growth and tentacled reach across the globe. More ominously, he was behind the spy agency's successful attempt to install a trapdoor in software intended for government use, allowing the Israelis a direct pipeline into a vast network of computers installed with undetectable malware. ..."
"... Like his predecessor, Epstein had a financial stake in a startup (headed by former Israeli Defense Minister and later Prime Minister Ehud Barak) connected to Israel's defense industry that provides infrastructure for emergency services as a call handling platform. ..."
"... Epstein, like Maxwell, was laying the groundwork for Israeli espionage activities through his interests in companies with a political agenda concealed in products intended for international export. ..."
"... If you have ever asked yourself why Israel's war crimes and settlement expansion go unchallenged by US lawmakers, consider the career destroying consequences contained within those dossiers compiled by the braintrust behind Epstein's 'suicide'. "We'll trade you one US Embassy in Jerusalem for 10 minutes of hidden camera footage of you . . . let's say 'enjoying' a rolled up Forbes magazine". ..."
"... Epstein could have also attempted to collateralize the cache of damning evidence still in his possession to secure his freedom with the same fatal consequences. ..."
"... By now, it's a given that the parasitic and preferred daughter of the deceased tycoon, made the fateful introduction between her new boyfriend and the Israeli operatives seeking an entry level plutocrat to carry out their blackmail operations after the untimely death of his predecessor. An impoverished socialite has to survive in pricey Manhattan somehow, and that somehow was re-establishing the shady connections to the espionage underworld that had recruited Maxwell Sr. ..."
"... Ghislaine's later role as Epstein's Chief Procurement Officer (or pimp for short) gives more credence to the rumors that she is more than just a debased, barnacle-like appendage to a billionaire, desperate to please her platonic partner by "organizing his social life", but a fully cognizant co-conspirator in an operation aimed at strengthening Israel's hand in all matters pertaining to its national security interests, or more accurately, its overseas criminal enterprises. ..."
"... The recent raid on Epstein's Manhattan apartment was not the result of a so-called Justice Department righting the egregious wrong it committed by letting Epstein off with a slap on the wrist after his initial conviction that allowed him to serve his sentence largely outside the minimum-security facility with an open door policy for its billionaire guest. More likely, the reversal of Epstein's "sweetheart" deal was a joint operation between the oligarch cabal informally known as the Mega-Group, and the state security apparatuses that do their bidding. ..."
"... The 'Israel First' philanthropist shared an unyielding ideological justification for his own criminality as Robert Maxwell, whom the British Home Office had considered recruiting for its own intelligence gathering in the mid 1960's. Having determined that the well-connected, multilingual, rising star politician was strictly "Zionist", the spy agency withdrew his candidacy. ..."
"... Rule number one of PR crisis management: Crucify the insignificant and let them hang out to dry until the public tires of watching the slow motion spectacle of their undoing ..."
"... Meanwhile, documented and/or photographic evidence against more powerful players like Bill Clinton and Donald Trump will have already been destroyed in the pursuit of selective justice. ..."
"... Subsequent reporting of the case will overlook decades of the elite-driven state craft that elevated corrupt and ruthless entities like Epstein and Trump, both ring-kissing acolytes in their youth of influential mob fixer/politcal power broker Roy Cohn – himself a serial sexual predator who similarly caught the fancy of fellow deviants Joe McCarthy and J. Edgar Hoover. Follow the money trail from Tel Aviv and you'll discover an ancestral link between the corpse of Epstein and his ghostly godfathers waiting with his rewards in hell. ..."
Aug 16, 2019 | www.counterpunch.org
Media tycoon and former Labour MP Robert Maxwell (father of Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein's partner in crime) was given a state funeral in Jerusalem after *accidentally* falling off his yacht – the unluckily named "Lady Ghislaine". Later it was revealed Maxwell Sr was a Mossad asset who used his vast network of connections and publishing platforms to run editorial interference over his purchased assets to influence enemies and friends alike, ensuring their fealty to the foreign government that had enlisted him for its espionage work.

His tabloid empire was the piss-colored propaganda organ of the interests he served, overseeing its rapid growth and tentacled reach across the globe. More ominously, he was behind the spy agency's successful attempt to install a trapdoor in software intended for government use, allowing the Israelis a direct pipeline into a vast network of computers installed with undetectable malware.

At the time of his death, the disgraced magnate was under investigation for raiding his companies' pension funds to cover the losses incurred from his multiple and reckless takeovers, and finance a luxury lifestyle he enjoyed sharing with high profile pals like Henry Kissinger and Barbara Walters. Curiously, many of these fossilized specimens from Robert Maxwell's roster of friends from the Reagan era would circle around Epstein, most notably Donald Trump whose Mar-a-Lago resort would later become a recruiting center for employer Epstein's underage "massage therapists".

Fast forward a couple of decades since the days a casino mogul was gobbling down canapés with the old guard denizens of the 'swamp'. Notice a similar, if not identical MO in both Maxwell and Epstein's role in procuring technology for the Israelis, who in turn sold it with undisclosed add-ons, providing an open window into its users' databases.

Like his predecessor, Epstein had a financial stake in a startup (headed by former Israeli Defense Minister and later Prime Minister Ehud Barak) connected to Israel's defense industry that provides infrastructure for emergency services as a call handling platform. Considering the company's connection to military intelligence, it wouldn't be a stretch to speculate on some of this software's other 'special' features. A variation of the early technology that Maxwell was able to procure for his Israeli bosses was later sold to the Saudis, who leveraged its sophisticated tracking features to assassinate Jamal Khashoggi.

Epstein, like Maxwell, was laying the groundwork for Israeli espionage activities through his interests in companies with a political agenda concealed in products intended for international export. If true, the playboy philanthropist feted and flattered his high profile friends to ensnare them as complicit partners in what amounts to the legal definition of treason. Epstein's covert activities have undiminished real world consequences for anyone on Israel's international radar, especially those challenging the status quo policies in place that prioritize "The Jewish State's" political and financial objectives over actual justice and global stability.

If you have ever asked yourself why Israel's war crimes and settlement expansion go unchallenged by US lawmakers, consider the career destroying consequences contained within those dossiers compiled by the braintrust behind Epstein's 'suicide'. "We'll trade you one US Embassy in Jerusalem for 10 minutes of hidden camera footage of you . . . let's say 'enjoying' a rolled up Forbes magazine".

Were the surveillance apparatuses installed throughout Epstein's properties merely a voyeur's tools, or did he use them to leverage the moral failings of his former friends for purposes that might have risked exposure of more than the nether regions of wealthy pedo-punters? Considering his connections to Israeli defense industries and his own Achilles penis that required, by his own admission, "three orgasms a day", the answer points to an unslakable addiction that dovetailed conveniently with his state-sponsored sex crimes.

Did Epstein make the same mistake of Maxwell (who had asked for nearly half a billion dollar in "loans" from his Israeli backers to relieve him of his mounting debts) believing the dirt he had in his possession would prove radioactive if released? By this time, the corpulent tycoon was nicknamed the 'Bouncing Czech' a reference in most part to his worsening money woes. The implication of this request, if turned down, was the exposure of Israel's state secrets. Epstein could have also attempted to collateralize the cache of damning evidence still in his possession to secure his freedom with the same fatal consequences.

Both Maxwell and Epstein somehow evaded the electronics that linked them to the outside world at the time of their deaths, even though the latter had reportedly made an attempt on his own life while in custody. Both men, facing ruination and serious prison time gave their executioners an alibi: They had nothing to left to live for. The establishment media is already trotting out ancient, ding-a-ling conspiracy theories from obscure right wing sources (attributed to Russia, of course) to highlight the absurdity and futility of questioning the official story of Epstein's death. Verdict: Nothing to see here.

By now, it's a given that the parasitic and preferred daughter of the deceased tycoon, made the fateful introduction between her new boyfriend and the Israeli operatives seeking an entry level plutocrat to carry out their blackmail operations after the untimely death of his predecessor. An impoverished socialite has to survive in pricey Manhattan somehow, and that somehow was re-establishing the shady connections to the espionage underworld that had recruited Maxwell Sr.

Ghislaine's later role as Epstein's Chief Procurement Officer (or pimp for short) gives more credence to the rumors that she is more than just a debased, barnacle-like appendage to a billionaire, desperate to please her platonic partner by "organizing his social life", but a fully cognizant co-conspirator in an operation aimed at strengthening Israel's hand in all matters pertaining to its national security interests, or more accurately, its overseas criminal enterprises.

The recent raid on Epstein's Manhattan apartment was not the result of a so-called Justice Department righting the egregious wrong it committed by letting Epstein off with a slap on the wrist after his initial conviction that allowed him to serve his sentence largely outside the minimum-security facility with an open door policy for its billionaire guest. More likely, the reversal of Epstein's "sweetheart" deal was a joint operation between the oligarch cabal informally known as the Mega-Group, and the state security apparatuses that do their bidding.

It's seems likely that this sudden pivot towards justice from a Justice Department initially spooked into inaction by the spook in his custody, was motivated by the need to remove the most damning bits among Epstein's vast trove of physical evidence against the pervy punters who visited his island getaway for unintended photo ops with underage girls.

Perhaps his own abuse of these minors was a perk he felt entitled to, and one that would be overlooked in the service of "national security". It's hard for most people to differentiate between the government he actually worked for and the ruling establishment on his home turf.

It's possible that Epstein felt his serial transgressions were merely par for the plutocracy and justified in the service of a higher calling.

The 'Israel First' philanthropist shared an unyielding ideological justification for his own criminality as Robert Maxwell, whom the British Home Office had considered recruiting for its own intelligence gathering in the mid 1960's. Having determined that the well-connected, multilingual, rising star politician was strictly "Zionist", the spy agency withdrew his candidacy.

Epstein's real crimes had little to do with raping children, despite the overturned plea deal that came about when a federal judge ruled that prosecutors had violated the victims rights by by concealing the agreement from them. The one time teflon-coated "member of intelligence" who was "above the pay grade" of a powerful District Attorney (now a now scandal-tainted former Labor Secretary) was ultimately (and lethally) penalized for not destroying the contents of his secret-laden safes, leaving his handlers still vulnerable to their explosive contents.

Had the doomed financier divested himself of the toxic assets still in his possession, he might still be roaming the earth today, scouring it for new specimens to populate his underage petting zoo. As a result of the Justice Department's decision to reverse the non-prosecution deal meant to bury the most incendiary facts of the case, lower-rung punters like former governor Bill Richardson and Senator George Mitchell are being publicly named for their part in the sordid scandal. Someone has to take the fall. ( Rule number one of PR crisis management: Crucify the insignificant and let them hang out to dry until the public tires of watching the slow motion spectacle of their undoing .) Meanwhile, documented and/or photographic evidence against more powerful players like Bill Clinton and Donald Trump will have already been destroyed in the pursuit of selective justice.

The fallout of Epstein's spectacular downfall predictably miss the mark as scandals involving the rich and powerful tend to do. Much of the controversy will dissolve into a Cheetoh dust maelstrom of disinformation, disseminated on Reddit and 4Chan by incel info-warriors before shooting up a shopping mall or playground.

Subsequent reporting of the case will overlook decades of the elite-driven state craft that elevated corrupt and ruthless entities like Epstein and Trump, both ring-kissing acolytes in their youth of influential mob fixer/politcal power broker Roy Cohn – himself a serial sexual predator who similarly caught the fancy of fellow deviants Joe McCarthy and J. Edgar Hoover. Follow the money trail from Tel Aviv and you'll discover an ancestral link between the corpse of Epstein and his ghostly godfathers waiting with his rewards in hell.

Along with the other disgraced and expendable patsies left in the wake of this ongoing scandal is Alan Dershowitz, Epstein's octogenarian chief legal counsel and 'wing man' aboard the Lolita Express. The now unemployable cable news pundit will live out the remainder of his pointless life under a cloud of suspicion. Despite all the damning testimony against him, the statutory rape allegations never quite stick, but follow him around like a sneaky fart, forcing a distance between himself and the rest of humanity that will last until he is engulfed by the sulfurous fumes of his own making.

The former Harvard law professor's lifelong service to Israel will go unrewarded – not as a result of victim testimony placing him at multiple crime scenes, but in consideration of his own inept self-defense strategy: "I'm a scurvy rat aboard a sinking ship eating its own tail to stay alive. Pity me"! Dershowitz at this point will be lucky if he can achieve the same pay grade and social status of Lindsay Lohan. Ditto for Prince Andrew who can at least be relied on to expire slowly of gout in his time-out corner at Windsor Castle.

The moral of this story could be "Lie down with dogs and never wake up again with a prison-issued sheet around your neck". A variation of the old "Lie down with dogs and and wake up as fish food".

[Aug 17, 2019] Cover Up Epstein Shipped $100K Cement Mixer To 'Pedo Island' Weeks Before Crushing Exposé

Human victims?
Notable quotes:
"... While Epstein's extensive construction on the island is no secret, the timing of the cement mixer shipment - and the fact that it was express shipped, raises suspicion. ..."
"... "The shipment arrived Epstein's island on November 7th of 2018, 21 days before Julie Brown's expose was published in the Miami Herald and 23 days before Epstein allegedly began to try to pay off witnesses. Considering both the scope of Brown's article and the urgency of the shipment, the possibility that the cement mixer was used to literally cover up evidence cannot be discounted. " ..."
"... Perhaps due to the heat on from the Miami Herald reports, which Manhattan police said was instrumental in their investigation, Epstein sold his infamous 'lolita express' Boeing 727-200 just weeks before his arrest according to court filings. ..."
"... Epstein, who was arrested on July 6 after returning from Paris on his Gulfstream G550 per Bloomberg , sold "the other jet" in June, 2019 - prior to his arrest . ..."
"... On other words, it looks like the financier unloaded the potentially 'evidence-rich' aircraft - said to have had a bed installed where passengers reportedly had group sex with young girls - right before the hammer came down. ..."
"... On Monday, the FBI and NYPD raided Little St. James island last week, packing up evidence - however as Rusty Shackelford's videos reveal, some of it had already been moved prior to the raid. ( before , after - note the computer on the right is gone). Perhaps they should have raided the island the same day he was arrested? ..."
Aug 17, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Approximately three weeks before a series of damning articles hit in the Miami Herald , Jeffrey Epstein paid up front to have a $100,000 cement mixe r express-shipped to his infamous Little St. James 'pedo island' at great expense, according to the Daily Mail .

The pedophile, who was found dead by apparent suicide on Saturday while awaiting trial for sex trafficking, got the Carmix 5.5 XL self loading concrete mixer delivered to Little St. James on November 7 last year .

Epstein was in such a hurry that he paid for the machine up front so it would arrive sooner - even though it meant being responsible if it got damaged in transit.

Three weeks later the Miami Herald published a series of articles called 'Perversion of Justice' on November 28, which eventually led to Epstein being arrested in July.

Shipping experts told DailyMailTV that the possibility that it was 'used to literally cover up evidence cannot be discounted'. - Daily Mail

The mixer can be seen in a drone video taken by YouTube user Rusty Shackleford. It appears buried in a storage warehouse behind some other equipment, however its barrel drum and other distinctive features can be made out.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/A83l9p5LpF0?start=93

While Epstein's extensive construction on the island is no secret, the timing of the cement mixer shipment - and the fact that it was express shipped, raises suspicion.

"While the purchase of the cement mixer on its own is not suspicious, particularly given the reported and approved repair of cisterns on Little St. James, both the timing of the shipment and the fact that it's the only item in our records shipped with an express bill of lading do raise concerns," said shipping data analyst William George.

"The shipment arrived Epstein's island on November 7th of 2018, 21 days before Julie Brown's expose was published in the Miami Herald and 23 days before Epstein allegedly began to try to pay off witnesses. Considering both the scope of Brown's article and the urgency of the shipment, the possibility that the cement mixer was used to literally cover up evidence cannot be discounted. "

Many have speculated that Epstein had underground tunnels or facilities on his island, while the drone footage reveals what appear to be several hill-side doors.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/nK63JAcD8uQ?start=93

The Mail also notes that Epstein had a complete dentist's chair shipped to the island, while many have observed from Shackleford's videos that Epstein had an ambulance as well - which seems odd for such a small island with no known medical facilities.

Perhaps due to the heat on from the Miami Herald reports, which Manhattan police said was instrumental in their investigation, Epstein sold his infamous 'lolita express' Boeing 727-200 just weeks before his arrest according to court filings.

Epstein, who was arrested on July 6 after returning from Paris on his Gulfstream G550 per Bloomberg , sold "the other jet" in June, 2019 - prior to his arrest .

On other words, it looks like the financier unloaded the potentially 'evidence-rich' aircraft - said to have had a bed installed where passengers reportedly had group sex with young girls - right before the hammer came down.

According to investigative journalist Conchita Sarnoff - who first revealed the former president's extensive flights on Epstein's "lolita express" in a 2010 Daily Beast exposé - former president Bill Clinton flew on the 'lolita express' no fewer than 27 times.

Via Radar Online

Clinton claimed in a July statement that he only took "a total of four trips on Jeffrey Epstein's airplane" in 2002 and 2003, and that Secret Service accompanied him at all times - which Sarnoff told Fox News was a total lie .

On Monday, the FBI and NYPD raided Little St. James island last week, packing up evidence - however as Rusty Shackelford's videos reveal, some of it had already been moved prior to the raid. ( before , after - note the computer on the right is gone). Perhaps they should have raided the island the same day he was arrested?


Huckleberry Pie , 8 minutes ago link

Takes a lot of cement to bury DNA "evidence".

Lumberjack , 9 minutes ago link

Nuff said...

https://www.jns.org/israel-maintains-us-tier-1-rating-on-human-trafficking-for-8th-consecutive-year/

MadelynMarie , 4 minutes ago link

https://www.haaretz.com/1.5078950

Report: 3,000 Women a Year Trapped in Sex Slave Industry (in Israhell)

A special Knesset committee has found that "3,000 women are sold each year in Israel's sex industry, in transactions with an annual volume of $1 billion." Exploitation of sex workers includes imprisonment, and other forms of rank coercion.

The special Knesset committee's interim report is to be released today. It describes the sex industry as a "modern form of slavery."

vasilievich , 18 minutes ago link

The whole idea of an orgy island is insane. How many rich, desperate people are at large?

vasilievich , 28 minutes ago link

When you look at the preposterous, cheap grandiosity of the so-called temple, your first thought should be: Madness.

He was perhaps clever, and expert at manipulating other people's weaknesses, but otherwise not particularly intelligent.

holyvanguard , 41 minutes ago link

Why not just toss **** in the ocean. If you have something that needs a cement truck to cover it up, you are already screwed.

Swamp Yankee , 46 minutes ago link

If U live on an island and U have access to a boat and some rocks it is 1000x easier to make 'something' disappear than engaging in a major concrete pour.

Just sayin'/

MadelynMarie , 35 minutes ago link

Yeah, I was always thinking they/he just tossed victims in the ocean.

holyvanguard , 46 minutes ago link

Epsteins deadmans switch have not been triggered yet. I bet you he is still alive. All the evidence they give you are trying to make you think he was assassinated on purpose. I hope he is being tortured to give up all his hidden information.

MadelynMarie , 36 minutes ago link

here's one possible scenario as to how it went down: https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2019/08/14/jeffrey-epstein-is-alive-a-fictional-scenario/

Smi1ey , 1 hour ago link

Did they take a cadaver dog to the island?

vasilievich , 1 hour ago link

People seem to think that rational decisions were made by a rational person or persons. Why?

Indelible Scars , 1 hour ago link

A concrete truck isn't worth a damn without concrete. I doubt he had a plant there but who knows? He surely could afford a small cement plant.

Bobportlandor , 1 hour ago link

The concrete truck is a small cement mixer just add:

1 part Portland cement

2 parts sand.

3 parts gravel.

1/2 part water.

Question I have is where is he placing the concrete if underground he needs a pumper and access point.

kaiserbill57 , 2 hours ago link

Two Words : Corpse Removal

Sudden Debt , 2 hours ago link

It was clear that the house was cleaned when he died.

It took weeks before they raided the house...

Try not to pay your taxes and see how long it takes before they take everything not nailed down from your office...

this is a joke...

where the CIA, NSA and FBI are involved.

Robin D. Hood , 1 hour ago link

JE is almost certainly alive. Decoy ambulances, no raids until weeks afterward and not at all locations allowing cleanup after he was extricated from 'prison' and debriefed.

Israel involved (as are other countries) leadership and business top guns.

Even Ghislaine (Gill-lane, silent s) has not been interviewed as well as Wexner, Kushner(s) et.al ..(can't forget Adnan Kasoggi and the Jewish mob).

JE isn't stupid and has insurance policies. He's alive and cut a deal not to use said insurance policies if allowed a very quiet retirement.

This is as big if not bigger than 911 with close ties if not involvement. Even Larry Silverstein is connected.

We can demand investigations until we become cyanotic but will be given a ******** happy meal (**** sandwich) ending served on a silver (MSM) platter.

Jared Diamond once wrote a book about this. Have you had enough? Has public perception become a turning point?

I would safely assume Jared Diamond is Jewish. The point he made in his book is things change after a certain percentage of the public agree on a concept or idea.

Case in point:

Prior to Steven Spielberg making a movie about an idea called The Holocaust. Anti Semitism was a worn out excuse used for decades with no effect except for those in the Jewish community.

After the film aired, public perception changed (perception management) to favor the idea set forth in the film and now anti-semitism is a weaponized term used for political purposes.

Anyone with any grey matter and synaptic activity should be very concerned now. It's time.

wdg , 2 hours ago link

Mega Group, Maxwells and Mossad: The Spy Story at the Heart of the Jeffrey Epstein Scandal

The picture painted by the evidence is not a direct Epstein tie to a single intelligence agency but a web linking key members of the Mega Group, politicians (Trump included), and officials in both the U.S. and Israel, and an organized-crime network with deep business and intelligence ties in both nations.

by Whitney Webb

https://www.mintpressnews.com/mega-group-maxwells-mossad-spy-story-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/261172/

[Aug 16, 2019] Epstein was a high level asset; not a low level thug. If he was killed, it sends a disquieting message to other undercover high level assets

Notable quotes:
"... There's no doubt in my mind that no jail will protect you when there's powerful people that want to reach you -- wherever you are. If he's going to implicate anyone in power that has the ability to reach in and somehow get to him – his life is definitely in jeopardy. ..."
"... Epstein was a high level asset; not a low level thug. If he was killed, it sends a disquieting message to other undercover high level assets. Then again, if he was rescued (i.e swapped out) then it sends a good message. BTW ask any psychiatrist if a true narcissist would commit suicide. ..."
Aug 16, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

frankthecrank , 11 minutes ago link

From this article https://torontosun.com/news/world/epsteins-sick-mantra-on-teen-sex-victims-the-younger-the-better

Kuvin added:

" There's no doubt in my mind that no jail will protect you when there's powerful people that want to reach you -- wherever you are. If he's going to implicate anyone in power that has the ability to reach in and somehow get to him – his life is definitely in jeopardy.

"I do question whether it was a true suicide attempt. I mean how do you choke yourself? It doesn't make any sense."

Epstein is currently locked up in the Metropolitan Correctional Centre ahead of a trial for charges of sex trafficking involving dozens of underage girls.

apberusdisvet , 3 minutes ago link

But...but...but

Epstein was a high level asset; not a low level thug. If he was killed, it sends a disquieting message to other undercover high level assets. Then again, if he was rescued (i.e swapped out) then it sends a good message. BTW ask any psychiatrist if a true narcissist would commit suicide.

Totally_Disillusioned , 20 minutes ago link

Can the Greatest Story Ever Told get any more bizarre? Why the endless drivel on Epstein? I believe it's perception management and aimed at focusing on Epstein as a perverse weirdo not to be believed, deflecting attention from the patrons of his debauchery.

Wild Bill Steamcock , 22 minutes ago link

Really ******* suspicious how they've moved the goal posts on that. Like that article posted here yesterday about his former bodyguard back-tracking from a prior interview where he stated Epstein liked younger girls and tried to stop him. Then this new interview a few days ago the guy was saying Epstein didn't have a thing for underage girls, he just liked women in their early-to-mid 20s. Guy was scared shitless and warned the reporter to back off

They're trying hard to rewrite this shitshow

[Aug 16, 2019] This Is How Epstein Manipulated Vulnerable Young Girls (And How You Can Protect Your Children From Predators)

Aug 16, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

This Is How Epstein Manipulated Vulnerable Young Girls (And How You Can Protect Your Children From Predators)

by Tyler Durden Fri, 08/16/2019 - 18:25 0 SHARES

Authored by Daisy Luther via The Organic Prepper blog,

This article contains content that some may find distressing.

Jeffrey Epstein "was" apparently a serial molester of children. He had manipulation down to an art form, as many molesters do. He seemed to be an expert at figuring out a girl's weak point, whether it was poverty, a deceased family member, or feeling alienated from her peers.

This is a common ploy. Many molesters seek out children or teens who have lost a parent and use this as a way to build a friendship. Then, because children don't think like adults, they are manipulated, coerced, or threatened into sexual activity.

The story below could be told a hundred thousand times with only tiny changes. The names and the faces would be different. The settings might not be a mansion in Manhattan or in Palm Beach but rather a quiet part of a church, a school, or some kind of activity for teens. The setting could be in the house next door to you, where someone with evil intent befriends a vulnerable young person with the stated goal of helping them, but an end result that couldn't be further from reality.

How 14-year-old Jennifer Araoz met Jeffrey Epstein

Jennifer Araoz was 14 years old when she first met her future rapist, Jeffrey Epstein. She wrote about how she was manipulated, first by his recruiter, then by Epstein himself. There are many powerful lessons that we as parents can learn from her story.

During my freshman year, one of Epstein's recruiters, a stranger, approached me on the sidewalk outside my high school. Epstein never operated alone. He had a ring of enablers and surrounded himself with influential people. I was attending a performing arts school on the Upper East Side, studying musical theater. I wanted to be an actress and a singer. ( source )

Another report based on court documents says that the recruiter befriended Jennifer, took her out to eat after school a few times, and learned more about her, such as the fact that Jennifer's father had died from an AIDs-related illness and her family could barely scrape by financially.

The recruiter told me about a wealthy man she knew named Jeffrey Epstein. Meeting him would be beneficial, and he could introduce me to the right people for my career, she said. When I confided that I had recently lost my father and that my family was living on food stamps, she told me he was very caring and wanted to help us financially. ( source )

The recruiter finally got Jennifer to go with her to meet Epstein. Court documents say that they all three met together for the first month or so.

The visits during the first month felt benign, at least at the time. On my second visit, Epstein also gave me a digital camera as a gift. The visits were about one to two hours long and we would spend the time talking. After each visit, he or his secretary would hand me $300 in cash, supposedly to help my family. ( source )

Epstein claimed he was 'a big AIDS activist' which you can imagine would mean a lot to a 14-year-old whose father died of the disease.

Soon the visits would take a dark turn.

By the second month of Jennifer's visits to the mansion, the recruiter no longer attended the visits., the manipulation began in earnest.

But within about a month, he started asking me for massages and instructed me to take my top off. He said he would need to see my body if he was going to help me break into modeling. I felt uncomfortable and intimidated, but I did as he said. The assault escalated when, during these massages, he would flip over and sexually gratify himself and touch me inappropriately. For a little over a year, I went to Epstein's home once or twice a week.

After that day, I never went back. I also quit the performing arts school -- the one I had auditioned for and had wanted so badly to attend. It was too close to his house, the scene of so many crimes. I was too scared I would see him or his recruiter. So I transferred to another school in Queens close to my home. Since I was no longer able to pursue my dream of performing arts I eventually lost interest and dropped out. ( source )

Sure, we can say that she knew things weren't right when he asked her to take her top off. By this point, she was 15 years old. Old enough to know right from wrong. But if she was getting $300 twice a week and helping her family with it, it's pretty easy to see how she would want to continue helping her family despite her discomfort. Epstein knew exactly what he was doing.

Epstein's wealth, power, and connections would have made going against him seem like an insurmountable feat for a vulnerable 15-year-old girl who had recently lost her father. Who would have believed her word against that of this presumed philanthropist?

A few days ago, Jennifer, now 32, filed a massive lawsuit against Epstein's estate, Ghislaine Maxwell, and 3 members of Epstein's household staff. The complaint alleges that Maxwell and the staff "conspired with each other to make possible and otherwise facilitate the sexual abuse and rape of Plaintiff."

Some of Epstein's victims recruited new girls for him.

Epstein's indictment explains how he manipulated some of the girls he sexually abused to bring other girls to him.

Prosecutors say he lured underage girls, some as young as 14, to his residences, promising them a cash payment in exchange for giving him a massage. Instead, he would sexually abuse them -- groping them, making them touch him while he masturbated, and using sex toys on the minors. Then, he would allegedly ask them to recruit other girls. ( source )

A detailed report in the Miami Herald referred to it as a "sexual pyramid scheme." One of Epstein's accusers, Courtney Wild, reiterates the theme of the story told by Jennifer Boaz.

"Jeffrey preyed on girls who were in a bad way, girls who were basically homeless. He went after girls who he thought no one would listen to and he was right,'' said Courtney Wild, who was 14 when she met Epstein. ( source )

Courtney's time spent with Epstein nearly destroyed her.

Before she met Epstein, Courtney Wild was captain of the cheerleading squad, first trumpet in the band and an A-student at Lake Worth Middle School.

After she met Epstein, she was a stripper, a drug addict and an inmate at Gadsden Correctional Institution in Florida's Panhandle.

Wild still had braces on her teeth when she was introduced to him in 2002 at the age of 14.

She was fair, petite and slender, blonde and blue-eyed. ( source )

She began to recruit other girls for him in Palm Beach.

Wild said Epstein preferred girls who were white, appeared prepubescent and those who were easy to manipulate into going further each time

"By the time I was 16, I had probably brought him 70 to 80 girls who were all 14 and 15 years old. He was involved in my life for years," said Wild, who was released from prison in October after serving three years on drug charges.

The girls -- mostly 13 to 16 -- were lured to his pink waterfront mansion by Wild and other girls, who went to malls, house parties and other places where girls congregated, and told recruits that they could earn $200 to $300 to give a man -- Epstein -- a massage, according to an unredacted copy of the Palm Beach police investigation obtained by the Herald. ( source )

Epstein had it down to an art form.

Palm Beach police detective Joseph Recarey explains how Epstein insinuated himself into the girls' lives.

"The common interview with a girl went like this: 'I was brought there by so and so. I didn't feel comfortable with what happened, but I got paid well, so I was told if I didn't feel comfortable, I could bring someone else and still get paid,' '' Recarey said.

During the massage sessions, Recarey said Epstein would molest the girls, paying them premiums for engaging in oral sex and intercourse, and offering them a further bounty to find him more girls

Epstein could be a generous benefactor, Recarey said, buying his favored girls gifts. He might rent a car for a young girl to make it more convenient for her to stop by and cater to him. Once, he sent a bucket of roses to the local high school after one of his girls starred in a stage production. The floral-delivery instructions and a report card for one of the girls were discovered in a search of his mansion and trash. Police also obtained receipts for the rental cars and gifts, Recarey said.

Epstein counseled the girls about their schooling, and told them he would help them get into college, modeling school, fashion design or acting. At least two of Epstein's victims told police that they were in love with him, according to the police report. ( source )

You may look at these stories and scorn the victims. After all, they kept going back, didn't they? They liked the money, didn't they?

But they were children. Many of them were isolated, vulnerable, and without support systems. Many of them felt ashamed but didn't know how to extricate themselves. They were confused and scared, and Epstein was a pro at taking advantage of these emotions and doubts.

The girls are not to blame here. The adults are.

Epstein is not the only predator out there.

While this article focuses on how Epstein was able to lure so many victims, as Dagny Taggert recently wrote , there are many more people in power out there preying on children. Clergy, priests, teachers, neighbors, musicians, and random people on the internet are out there preying on and trafficking children.

Dagny wrote:

According to The National Center for Victims of Crime , the prevalence of child sexual abuse (CSA) is difficult to determine because it is often not reported. Experts agree that the incidence is far greater than what is reported to authorities.

Statistics below represent some of the research done on child sexual abuse.

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services' Children's Bureau report Child Maltreatment 2010 found that 9.2% of victimized children were sexually assaulted (page 24).

Studies by David Finkelhor , Director of the Crimes Against Children Research Center , show that:

According to Darkness to Light , a non-profit committed to empowering adults to prevent child sexual abuse, only about one-third of child sexual abuse incidents are identified, and even fewer are reported .

The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children operates the CyberTipline , a national mechanism for the public and electronic service providers to report instances of suspected child sexual exploitation.

In 2018 the CyberTipline received more than 18.4 million reports, most of which related to:

Since its inception, the CyberTipline has received more than 48 million reports.

Those statistics are grim. ( source )

How do you keep your children safe?

When my children's father passed away, it wasn't too long afterward that I left my corporate job. I volunteered when the company began layoffs and took a small payment and my retirement fund to start a new life writing freelance. It wasn't long after that when I started this website.

I wanted to be home when they got back from school every day. I didn't want them to seem like prey to those looking for children with weak support systems. My own daughters could so easily have had a story like the one Jennifer has told.

I know that what I did is not possible for every family that suffers a loss. I was pretty fortunate to be able to find work from home that paid enough to allow me to be there.

What you, as a parent, must understand are the things that make your child seem vulnerable.

Some signs that your child could be getting abused or groomed.

Obviously, these lists are not comprehensive, nor are they sure signs of abuse. What teenager doesn't seem angry and withdrawn from time to time? But it's vital, no matter how hard they push you away, to stay involved, particularly after a traumatic event.

Here are some resources you may find helpful.

Teach your kids that some secrets should not be kept.

Predators manipulate children in all sorts of ways. One of the biggest ways is warning them to keep their "relationship" a secret or else.

Or else what?

Predators often put a burden on a child where they feel as though they must stay silent to protect the people they love.

Kids need to know that if anyone threatens them if they tell a secret, then they absolutely must tell that secret. Mom and Dad will be safe and will protect them. People who ask children to keep their presence in their lives a secret are never to be trusted.

And finally, make sure your children know that whatever they tell you, you will believe them and you know it's not their fault.

[Aug 16, 2019] Possible weakness of the hypotheses the blackmail was the motive of thing the brothel with underage prostitutes by Epstein

But why Wexner and Maxwell were involved ? Wexner gave the power of attorney to Epstein, so he essentially controlled Wexner fortune... Why such a level of trust ? Was later claims of abuse on the part of Epstein of his privileges and stolen money 40 million of which was supposed return to Wexner charity a part of cover-up
Aug 16, 2019 | www.unz.com

Paul Bustion , says: August 16, 2019 at 4:27 am GMT

Philip Giralid's theory that Jeffrey Epstein was running his prostitution ring as a honeypot operation that had his child prostitutes sexually seduce politicians so he could film the politicians having sex with children so he could blackmail them into supporting Israel and giving espionage information to the Mossad is ridiculous, to put it politely.

There is not only no evidence for this theory, there is also no reasonable or practical motive for the alleged behavior, and the alleged behavior would not make sense because it is very unlikely that any substantial number of politicians are pedophiles.

There is no reasonable or practical motive for the behavior because the Jewish political establishment already owns our political leaders as its puppets, so it does not need to blackmail them. T

he way it has establishment this amount of control is through forming a social network where Jews recruit Non-Jews to do their bidding, Jews created Freemasonry as their political agency to help them do this. Freemasonry is a political agency of Jewry, it allows Non-Jews to join it in order to help increase Jewish political power in Non-Jewish societies, Non-Jews who join it have to swear a loyalty oath to the organization and then form an in group preference for other members of the Jewish led organization. Jews also use their control of finance and banking to have this kind of political power. They do not need child prostitution ring to sexually seduce politicians so they can blackmail them to achieve political power, because they already control the political establishment.

Additionally, even if the Jewish political elites wanted or needed to blackmail our political leaders, this would be a very stupid way to do it. Filming sex between an adult and a child is a very serious crime, it actually in some cases is more serious than an adult having sex with a child, the person threatening blackmail against the person with the film would unless he had a very stupid victim have someone who would realize the person himself would go to prison if he showed anyone the film, so it would not be a good way to blackmail someone. There are much better ways to blackmail political leaders, such as finding out if they committed financial or political crimes or if they murdered someone, that would not involve such risks.

It is not plausible that any substantial number of politicians are pedophiles because pedophiles usually have very limited intellectual ability, and are perhaps even borderline mentally retarded, and pedophiles usually are mentally ill.

Dr. James Cantor, an expert on sexual perversion generally and pedophilia particularly, stated in a YouTube video titled "The Pedophile's Brain" published on the YouTube channel "TEDI BEAR Children's Advocacy Center" on July 19, 2015, that pedophiles on average, score 10-15 points below average on Intelligence Quotient tests.

That means that only between 16-25 percent of pedophiles are equally intelligent or more intelligent than the average person in western countries like Britain and America. Cantor also stated that pedophiles tend to have less white matter in their brains than the general population does, white matter is responsible for a lot of the social understanding of the brain and also for connecting brain regions to enable reasoning that requires connected understanding of different topics together. He also said that 30% of pedophiles are left handed while only 12% of the general population is left handed, this is what Darwin called a "correlation of growth" when two phenotypic traits appear very frequently together in biological organisms, another example cited by Darwin was that blue eyed cats are usually deaf.

Cantor said that the only other population groups with this high rates of left handed are autistics, schizophrenics and bipolars. Cantor concluded that what causes pedophilia is that pedophiles have a mental problem that causes their brain to be cross wired, so that the sexual responses are inappropriately connected with children whereas most people have a moral inhibition against sexual attraction to children. There are two peer reviewed articles by scientists I have read that discuss evidence autism is correlated in a causal way with pedophilia.

They are "Paraphilic Disorder in a Male Patient with Autism Spectrum Disorder: Incidence or Coincidence," by B. Kolta and G. Rossi, edited by A. Muocivic and J.R. Adler Cureus May 2018 and "Sexuality in autism: hypersexual and paraphilic behavior in women and men with high-functioning autism spectrum disorder," by Daniel Schottle, Peer Briken, Oliver Tuscher and Daniel Turner published in "Dialogues in Clinical Neuroscience," in December 2017 In the second article, the authors stated: ""Altogether, paraphilic sexual fantasies and behaviors were reported more frequently in male patients with ASD than in male HCs [Health Controls; that is people who are mentally healthy and do not have autism or another mental illness]. After correcting for multiple testing, significant differences were still present in the number of individuals reporting masochistic fantasies, sadistic fantasies, voyeuristic fantasies and behaviors, frotteuristic fantasies and behaviors, and pedophilic fantasies with female children"

The authors of the first article wrote: "Fernandes et al. were able to demonstrate that 30% of the low-functioning ASD patients showed some kind of inappropriate sexual behaviors, most frequently public masturbation, indecent exposure, and inappropriate heterosexual behaviors .

When looking at higher functioning patients with autism spectrum disorder they reported 10% demonstrated inappropriate sexual behaviors . The study also revealed that 24% of high-functioning individuals with ASD engaged in paraphilic sexual fantasies or behaviors including classic presentations of paraphilic disorder such as pedophilia, voyeurism, and sadomasochism " So pedophilia is linked to both low intellectual ability, and to mental illness.

A person needs to be highly intelligent to be a political leader, George W Bush was on the dumb side for a political leader and his Intelligence Quotient was 124, that is the 94th percentile, that means George W Bush is more intelligent than 94 percent of other people.

During the Nuremberg Trials all of the Nazis leaders who did anything of real importance scored at least 120 on the Intelligence Quotient test, which means they were smarter than 90% of other people, and the Nazis were also known for being on the dumb side for political leaders. The idea that any substantial number of politicians are pedophiles is ridiculous because of this, so this makes Giraldi's claim obviously ridiculous.

[Aug 16, 2019] On The Jewish Question by Karl Marx

Something on Epstein and neoliberalism from old Karl Marx paper
Aug 16, 2019 | www.marxists.org

The monotheism of the Jew, therefore, is in reality the polytheism of the many needs, a polytheism which makes even the lavatory an object of divine law. Practical need, egoism , is the principle of civil society , and as such appears in pure form as soon as civil society has fully given birth to the political state. The god of practical need and self-interest is money .

Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man – and turns them into commodities. Money is the universal self-established value of all things. It has, therefore, robbed the whole world – both the world of men and nature – of its specific value. Money is the estranged essence of man's work and man's existence, and this alien essence dominates him, and he worships it.

The god of the Jews has become secularized and has become the god of the world. The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange.

The view of nature attained under the domination of private property and money is a real contempt for, and practical debasement of, nature; in the Jewish religion, nature exists, it is true, but it exists only in imagination.

It is in this sense that [in a 1524 pamphlet] Thomas Münzer declares it intolerable

"that all creatures have been turned into property, the fishes in the water, the birds in the air, the plants on the earth; the creatures, too, must become free."

Contempt for theory, art, history, and for man as an end in himself, which is contained in an abstract form in the Jewish religion, is the real, conscious standpoint, the virtue of the man of money. The species-relation itself, the relation between man and woman, etc., becomes an object of trade! The woman is bought and sold.

The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general.

The groundless law of the Jew is only a religious caricature of groundless morality and right in general, of the purely formal rites with which the world of self-interest surrounds itself.

[Aug 16, 2019] Wexner's connection to Israeli causes is well worth examining.

Aug 16, 2019 | www.unz.com

Wizard of Oz , says: August 14, 2019 at 4:17 pm GMT

@Ron Unz The suicide of Epstein when life as he had played it was over is less surprising than that Madoff hasn't committed suicide. And incompetence or cynical negligence in the prison service is less surprising than your admission of familiarity with the popular culture of film and TV!

On a more constructive note let me proffer the following as a source containing some possibly relevant information about Epstein and his mysterious wealth.

"The relationship between Jeffrey Epstein and Jewish philanthropist Leslie Wexner, explained – Jewish Telegraphic Agency

https://www.jta.org/2019/08/13/united-states/the-relationship-between-jeffrey-epstein-and-jewish-philanthropist-leslie-wexner-explained&#8221 ;

The intelligence connection seems plausible and Mossad as the key agency but possibly having side deals with the CIA and FBI the most plausible. But, if so, Wexner's connection to Israeli causes is well worth examining.

[Aug 16, 2019] The relationship between Jeffrey Epstein and Jewish philanthropist Leslie Wexner, explained - Jewish Telegraphic Agency

Aug 16, 2019 | www.jta.org

( JTA ) -- One of the most befuddling questions surrounding the Jeffrey Epstein saga is why Leslie Wexner, a billionaire entrepreneur, entrusted all of his money to Epstein, a secretive financier with no college degree.

For those immersed in the Jewish world, there's an added question: How did Wexner -- a prominent philanthropist seen as a champion of Jewish learning and ethical teaching, whose foundation has trained waves of rabbis, Jewish professionals and volunteer board leaders -- end up so enmeshed and enamored with a future convicted sex offender and alleged sex trafficker?

Is Wexner connected to the sex abuse accusations against Epstein? Has the philanthropist been accused of any wrongdoing? Does any of this taint Wexner's legacy or the beneficiaries of his many programs?

Since the Epstein sex scandal resurfaced this year, these questions have dogged Wexner, the owner of Victoria's Secret who at one point was Epstein's only known financial client. Wexner was very close with Epstein and trusted him as a money manager and legal representative.

Epstein, who served a year in prison and registered as a sex offender more than a decade ago, was arrested recently and charged with sex trafficking. He was found hanged in his jail cell on Saturday in what officials are calling a suicide .

As the scandal has unfolded, Wexner and his associates have put out a series of statements on Epstein and their relationship. His connection with Epstein has also led to stormy discussions among the recipients of his largesse about the ethical dilemmas they face.

Here's a primer on how the two became so close, and why their relationship poses a dilemma for many in the Jewish community.

Who is Leslie Wexner?

He's an 81-year-old Jewish billionaire who lives in the Columbus, Ohio, area. Wexner made his fortune by founding The Limited, a women's clothing brand, in 1963.

Wexner has since expanded his apparel empire to include other brands, like Bath & Body Works, Pink and, most notably, Victoria's Secret, a once-obscure lingerie store that he turned into an empire. It's all now under the umbrella of his company, L Brands. He is the longest-running CEO of a Fortune 500 company.

He also ventured into real estate, developing the posh community of New Albany, Ohio, where Wexner lives in a 60,000-square-foot mansion. According to Forbes, he's worth $4.6 billion .

How much has he given to Jewish causes?

Plenty. The Wexner Foundation is among the most prominent private Jewish charities in the world. In 2017, according to tax documents, it gave $3.6 million in charity, much (but not all) of it to Jewish educational causes, as well as more money for educational programs.

The foundation is best known in the Jewish world for its graduate fellowship, which awards scholarships to 20 promising graduate students in Jewish fields, including rabbinical school, cantorial school, Jewish educational school or another degree program. More than 1,800 people have participated in its program aimed at providing volunteer board leadership with lessons in Jewish history, thought, texts and contemporary issues. The foundation runs a variety of other programs, including training for Israeli public officials.

What does all of this have to do with Jeffrey Epstein?

Nothing, and everything. For decades, if Wexner spent any money, Epstein was likely connected to it somehow. Epstein, a former prep school teacher, had entered the finance world and gained a reputation as an astute money manager for the super-wealthy. He met Wexner in the 1980s, and the two forged a close relationship. Epstein eventually received power of attorney over Wexner's finances.

In a statement last week distributed by his foundation, Wexner wrote that Epstein "had wide latitude to act on my behalf with respect to my personal finances while I focused on building my company and undertaking philanthropic efforts." In 2003, Wexner told Vanity Fair that Epstein had "excellent judgment and unusually high standards."

Epstein also was involved with Wexner's charitable efforts. In 1990, the two helped fund the construction of a new building for the Harvard Hillel. Two years later, after Wexner's mother fell ill, Epstein replaced her on the Wexner Foundation board.

In his recent statement, Wexner insisted that Epstein "had no executive responsibilities in the running of the Foundation" and "did not work directly with Foundation staff, and he did not engage with leadership initiatives in any way."

Sounds like they were really close.

Yes, and their relationship was more than a typical professional one. They were invested together in Wexner's Ohio real estate development. Epstein lived in Wexner's New York City townhouse for years, eventually acquiring it, along with acquiring a private plane from Wexner.

Epstein also supervised the construction of Wexner's yacht, Limitless, and was a frequent guest at Wexner's Ohio parties, according to The New York Times . The Times also reported that Epstein froze out some of Wexner's friends and acquaintances from his life.

When Epstein was first investigated in the mid-2000s, for unlawful sex acts with a minor, he denied the allegations. Eventually, however, he accepted a deal under which he pleaded guilty for two counts of solicitation of prostitution -- one with a minor. Wexner says he broke off his relationship with Epstein in 2007 and later found out that Epstein had taken a lot of money from him.

"This was, frankly, a tremendous shock, even though it clearly pales in comparison to the unthinkable allegations against him now," Wexner wrote in his recent message, regarding the financial misappropriation. "I am embarrassed that, like so many others, I was deceived by Mr. Epstein. I know now that my trust in him was grossly misplaced and I deeply regret having ever crossed his path."

In 2008, Epstein made a $46 million donation to one of Wexner's charities. Wexner wrote in his letter that "payments Mr. Epstein made to the charitable fund represented a portion of the returned monies" Epstein had misappropriated.

According to CNBC , Wexner has provided documents showing the financial misconduct to federal investigators.

So has anyone implicated Wexner in Epstein's crimes? And what does this have to do with Alan Dershowitz?

Wexner's name has been dragged into an ongoing legal battle between Alan Dershowitz and one of Epstein's accusers, Virginia Roberts Giuffre, and her lawyers.

Dershowitz had his own personal and professional relationship with Epstein. They were close (Dershowitz has said he loved talking with Epstein and would show him drafts of his books) and the high-profile lawyer has helped represent Epstein. Epstein once brought Dershowitz to one of Wexner's parties -- as, Dershowitz says, an " intellectual gift " to Wexner.

Two of Epstein's alleged victims, including Giuffre, have accused Dershowitz of sexual assault, which he denies . Dershowitz claims that the accusations against him were part of a plot by one of Giuffre's attorneys, David Boies, to extort money from Wexner.

According to a report in the Miami Herald , another of Giuffre's lawyers, Stanley Pottinger, submitted an affidavit saying his client said that under Epstein's direction, she had sex with both Dershowitz and Wexner.

But New York magazine reported that "Boies had three conversations with Wexner's lawyers in 2015, after which the allegations were quietly dropped." Boies asserted in an affidavit that "no settlement demand was ever made, or even discussed."

Some of Epstein's alleged abuse occurred at the Manhattan townhouse once owned by Wexner, where Epstein lived. Another Epstein accuser, Maria Farmer, said Epstein hired her to work on a mural at Wexner's home in Ohio in the summer of 1996, and assaulted her there. In an affidavit , she asserted that "Wexner's security staff refused to let me leave the property" and that she was held against her will for approximately 12 hours.

Farmer said that after returning to New York, she filed a report with the police and the FBI.

Farmer's affidavit does not suggest Wexner himself was involved with or knew about the incident.

Federal authorities thus far have not implicated Wexner in Epstein's crimes, according to Bloomberg , but prosecutors are still investigating which if any of Epstein's business associates were involved with his alleged crimes. In a statement posted in July, Wexner insisted (in all caps) that "I was NEVER aware of the illegal activity charged in the indictment."

The Wexner Foundation has not given interviews about the scandal and declined to speak to the Jewish Telegraphic Agency about the matter. JTA has asked the foundation specifically about the allegations by Farmer and Giuffre, and also has reached out to Guiffre's lawyers, including Pottinger, for comment.

According to The Times, Epstein also falsely represented himself as a talent scout for Victoria's Secret, then used that identity to meet women whom he assaulted.

L Brands' stock price has dropped as the Epstein scandal has unfolded.

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[Aug 16, 2019] Nice guy(Bill Clinton) uhhh got a lot of problems coming up, in my opinion, with the famous island with Jeffrey Epstein lot of problems

Aug 16, 2019 | www.unz.com

Assad al-islam , says: August 13, 2019 at 8:51 pm GMT

@Junior

"Nice guy(Bill Clinton) uhhh got a lot of problems coming up, in my opinion, with the famous island with Jeffrey Epstein lot of problems."
-Donald Trump at 2015 CPAC conference

https://youtu.be/kEnkJNEMLH0

How does the Candidate Trump knew in 2015 that, "Nice guy(Bill Clinton) uhhh got a lot of problems coming up, in my opinion, with the famous island with Jeffrey Epstein lot of problems."?

What does the above tell us about Candidate Trump and his foreknowledge to things to come?

[Aug 16, 2019] The Perverted Face of Elite America by Matt Purple

Notable quotes:
"... Bill Clinton flew ..."
"... dozens of times ..."
"... on the Lolita Express; was it really beyond him to order a hit? ..."
"... New York Times ..."
"... Are the Elites the arch villains from the comic books, probably not, but then again many of them operate corporations that cause suffering to economically deprived populations all over the world. ..."
"... Why is this surprising? Aristocrats have always behaved this way. ..."
"... The sexual abuse of children and kids in their early teens is a very democratic crime. While physical abuse and neglect are linked to lower-income parents, sexual abuse occurs in all strata of society. It is not confined to the elites or to money changers. Nor to Jews, if that is what you are implying. ..."
"... Unconcerned about negative consequences, these people have become increasingly brazen. They certainly know that the laws that apply to you and me do not apply to them. ..."
"... In the words of George Carlin, "it's a big club, and you ain't in it." I stopped reading after the first two para's on this, tone is exactly the same as the sneering disdain from the empire's various MSM propaganda arms aimed at those "not in the club." ..."
"... 1) Either our intelligence agencies knew what was going on with Epstein and did nothing to stop him. Or... ..."
"... 2) They had no clue .. ..."
"... Occam's Razor says Possibility No. 1 is more likely to be the truth. But what would such a truth tell us? ..."
"... "What I am saying is that Epstein's direct testimony – AND ONLY EPSTEIN'S DIRECT TESTIMONY – had the potential to create a Common Knowledge moment that could bring down – not just specific sociopathic oligarchs like Mob Boss Donald or Mob Boss Bill or Mob Boss Andrew if they were the specific targets of that testimony – but the entire Mob system of sociopathic oligarchy. ..."
"... One strongly suspects that Ghislaine Maxwell knows just as much as Epstein did. Her participation was just as important to the operation of this "trafficking" ring. She was the lead recruiter, handled logistics, "grooming" and also was Epstein's "in" to many of his VIP associates (who were really clients). If witness accounts are accurate, she was also a participant in a good number of these depraved, criminal acts. ..."
"... The fact she has not been charged is quite the tell about our system of "justice." ..."
"... This is a dangerous slope. People once bowed to the elites because there was a principle of enforcement called nobless oblige. Society felt that elites had to be held to a higher standard because they carried greater responsibilities and burdens for society and the welfare of the national good. ..."
"... Since the 1960s nobless oblige has been downgraded to sound bites and photo ops for publicity and marketing. The elites have all but abandoned their responsibilities to support religion, to support education (except to indocrinate), to support tradition and society and the national good. The elites have become inward looking, inbred and narcissistic with little to no outward focus except in a marxist totalitarian vein of thought which serves their interest, indulges their hungers, preserves their wealth and power. ..."
"... My point was that as popolo minuti transform into popolo grossi in terms of access to power, they tend to start to transform into them in terms of moral character as well. (Inequality of) power corrupts, and absolute (inequality of) power corrupts absolutely. Thus, it seems that the over-representation of psychopaths in positions of power is because the psychopathy is acquired (and plenty of studies show drastic declines in empathy with even a little priming for power), rather than because it is easier for psychopaths to rise to the top. The worst of the popolo grossi tend to be hereditary. ..."
"... I think we're a lot closer to 1789 France than we want to believe. Read some Chris Hedges to see how the socialists see the current situation. Here's an example. https://www.commondreams.or... ..."
"... "given that all available evidence points to gross negligence on the part of the jail." How is gross negligence different from deliberate negligence? ..."
Aug 16, 2019 | www.theamericanconservative.com

In our tense populist moment, Jeffrey Epstein's crimes land like a grenade. August 15, 2019

Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein in Cambridge, MA on 9/8/04. (Photo by Rick Friedman/Corbis via Getty Images) Hands up, those of you who made a Fort Marcy Park joke last Saturday. Anyone? Surely there were a few. Fort Marcy Park was the Washington, D.C. woodland where White House attorney Vince Foster was found dead in 1993, and while his demise was repeatedly ruled a suicide, certain conservatives spent years afterwards hallucinating that the Clintons had him killed. Now, a quarter century later, both right and left are back in conspiracy mode. Mere hours after pedo-to-the-stars Jeffrey Epstein was reported to have killed himself, the hash tag #ClintonBodyCount began circulating on Twitter, followed closely by #TrumpBodyCount. Both Bill Clinton and Donald Trump had been associates of Epstein's; both, the thinking went, might have been desperate for him not to take the stand.

It is wrong, of course, to publicly speculate that Epstein was whacked, given that all available evidence points to gross negligence on the part of the jail. But can you really blame people? Twenty-five years ago, if you'd said that a roll call of America's elites, everyone from a former president to the most famous lawyer in the country, would be implicated in a sex trafficking ring masterminded by an enigmatic Wall Street financier who was also a member of the Trilateral Commission , you would have been laughed into the darkest corner of the local subway platform (next to the guy holding the "Vatican Hides Pedophiles" sign, presumably). Today, you'd be reading AP copy. Validate an improbable conspiracy theory, and you grant license to all the related improbable conspiracy theories: Bill Clinton flew dozens of times on the Lolita Express; was it really beyond him to order a hit?

And if we know one thing about the Epstein story, it's that everything about it is utterly improbable. Epstein stands credibly accused of assembling a veritable underage harem . One of his victims, Virginia Guiffre, has already implicated Prince Andrew , the third-born of Queen Elizabeth II, and a picture has since emerged showing the royal with his arm around the then-teenager's waist. Guiffre says she was also ordered to have sex with , among others, a "foreign president," a "well-known prime minister," and a "large hotel chain owner." Such an open secret was all this perversion that the current president of the United States made cheeky reference to it back in 2002. So invincible did Epstein think himself that he discussed underage sex openly, telling a New York Times reporter that laws against pedophilia were a "cultural aberration."

That Epstein looked to other cultures to rationalize his behavior is nothing new -- Oscar Wilde wrapped his similar predilections in lofty talk about the Greek ideal. What is different is that rather than being hunted and exposed by the powerful, as Wilde was, Epstein was protected by them for decades. Even after he was convicted of soliciting an underage prostitute in 2008, he was sentenced to only 18 months in prison, held in a private wing of the Palm Beach County stockade, and let out on generous "work release."

Study the Epstein case long enough and you end up at Alex Jones's favorite conclusion: they're all sons of bitches. Everyone who was anyone seemed to be in on this, or at least acting at the behest of someone who was. The essence of the conspiratorial mindset is that powerful shadowy forces are, first, capable of and engaged in the most dastardly skullduggery imaginable, and, second, in cabal-like cooperation with each other across all levels of power. The Epstein case seems to affirm both planks. It makes our elites seem like aliens, of a different culture, a different moral code, a different species -- how else could they have let slide what none of us ever would? Mary Colum's remark to Ernest Hemingway, "The only difference between the rich and other people is that the rich have more money," has rarely rang less true.

There's been for some time now a sense of drift between most Americans and their elites, driven by factors like income inequality, geographic enclaving, and cultural differences. We are living in a populist moment, to be sure, an era when the usual purveyors of class warfare sound more apt than they otherwise would. In such a fraught environment, the Epstein revelation lands like a grenade. Not only are America's gentry hitching rides on the Acela while mumbling about deplorables -- so the feeling goes -- they're also running cover for a Caligula who's preying on little Susie down the street. Suddenly the populist divide doesn't just run between classes or races or regular toast versus avocado, but between ethical extremes, good and literal evil.

This is, of course, what most populists profess: the people as a group are wholesome, the elites as a group are venal, and the former has to be vaulted over the latter in order for society to be made whole again. Yet Epstein's crimes are so wicked as to potentially set this moral chasm ablaze like never before. That's why, though Trump may have associated with Epstein, he's unlikely to be damaged by him: everything that's happened only confirms what he's been saying for years. In fact, you might view the Epstein fracas as a dialectic between two of his former associates, Trump's throw-them-out populism versus Clinton's benevolent stewardship of society by the smart set. And Trump won out.

Just as populisms aren't driven entirely by economic causes, so too are revolutions often about more than bread. Consider the Russian Revolution, sparked at least in small part by the people's perception of Rasputin as a sexual deviant. Consider, too, the French Revolution's rage against the profligate "Madame Déficit" Marie Antoinette. In such cases, the moral tends to get intertwined with the economic; license is seen as enabling decadence while the people pray and starve. This can be a blind spot in traditional conservative thinking. We rightly detest (most) revolutions and the tremors they cause, but we sometimes fail to notice that the Jacobins have good reason to be angry and that the ruling classes they overthrow really are that loathsome.

America is nowhere near 1789 France, or armed revolution in general. But we are anxious, restive, hungry for justice. A republic likes ours depends on the harmonious coexistence of its people and its elites, a matter that our Founders spent a good deal of time worrying about. Now we have a hideous face f0r elite corruption, one that's enabled fever in the national mind and dehumanized those around him. For those of us who prize stability and liberty in a polity, who think populism is always best in modest doses, the weeks ahead may be reason for worry.

Because it seems there's only more to come. On Wednesday, another victim came forward , alleging that Epstein raped her when she was 14 after she turned down sex with him. That this carnal omega, this pathetic loser, this finger-sniffing pervert from every teen comedy lurking outside the pretty girl's home longing for a piece of discarded lingerie was somehow elevated into a Teflon-coated Wall Street sun god is beyond comprehension. My friend Michael Davis calls Epstein and company the Hellfire Club , but just how much will they torch on their way down?

Matt Purple is the managing editor of .


Amy Ehlers a day ago • edited

When I started to see what was going on in this country, which was my journey, I was amazed to find out that there is sex trafficking 8 blocks from the White House and I learned of this in 2011. Lisa Ling did a great documentary on it. "Night time traffic greater than the day time." Pimps attempting to recruit girls walking home from school. If you pay attention it is also a journey of the food chain of Corporate America that supports this.
This is a Money Changer issue, that is about the closing of eyes from both parties. and please don't tell me this is not so. I know better than that.
Krazy Uncle a day ago
To be absolutely, clear there was speculation that Epstein was going to be assassinated weeks before it happened. For the most part citizens aren't so much surprised, as disappointed that Justice is once again foiled.

Are the Elites the arch villains from the comic books, probably not, but then again many of them operate corporations that cause suffering to economically deprived populations all over the world.

When the World's 26 richest people own as much as poorest 50%, just how close do they seem to achieve a god like status when looking up from the bottom? Maybe that's one reason that people are so angry when it seems that the most vulnerable among us, our children, are the victims of a limited number of the Elites and their twisted and horrific appetites.

I personally doubt much will come of the Epstein affair it will most likely be just one more myth added to the tally of injustice, and the people will have to bitterly swallow it whole. It will probably take many more cases like this being exposed before the people actually have their fill, and decide to do something about it. In the meantime, prepare to see more of the same by the laughing and mocking Elites

Krazy Uncle Bill In Montgomey 15 hours ago
In this day and age, I doubt a reporter will touch this story, and if they did, the real story would never make it into the Main Stream Media. And, most likely the reporter would be permanently black balled, and never work in Journalism again. It's happened many times before, because it doesn't fit within the approved propaganda message.

Give the story a couple decades or more, and it may come out, but otherwise it will be handled as a whack-job Conspiracy Theory.

The Fourth Estate is the only business that is protected by the Constitution, and yet it has been neutered, and those in the Press, who were supposed to be the Watchdogs for the people, have become the Lapdogs of the Elites.

What passes as News today is formulaic programming, passed on from the Propagandist to the Media, both nationally and locally.

Have you ever seen Conan O'Brian's local news videos?
Newscasters Agree: Rising Gas Prices Edition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAkxR9T01pw
There is one reporter, Julie K. Brown, of the Miami
Herald that actually brought to light the Epstein story again.
Here's the Thing: How Julie Brown broke the Jeffrey Epstein story
https://www.wrvo.org/post/heres-thing-how-julie-brown-broke-jeffrey-epstein-story

So, there is at least one reporter that has the guts to do investigative journalism hope her life insurance policy is up to date.

p.s. I didn't listen to the broadcast in the second link I just posted it in case others are interested. I've read the story elsewhere.

polistra24 a day ago
Why is this surprising? Aristocrats have always behaved this way.
minsredmash a day ago
Two Republican state senators and two New York City Policemen died violently within 72 hours ....

1. On June 4, former Arkansas Senator Linda Collins-Smith, 57, was found dead outside her home, her body unrecognizable on discovery. Police are now investigating her death as a homicide. On June 5, the county prosecutor announced that the circuit judge sealed the documents and statements obtained by police.
2. On June 5, Deputy Chief Steven Silks, 62, weeks away from retirement, was found in an unmarked police car with a gunshot wound to the head. News reports reported indicate it seemed self-inflicted.
3. On June 5, former Oklahoma Sen. Jonathan Nichols, 53, was found shot dead in his home. Police have not announced whether they are investigating a suicide or homicide..
4. On June 6, Detective Joseph Calabrese, 58, was found near his police car on a Brooklyn, NY beach, dead of a gunshot wound in what one report called an apparent suicide.
RIP.
Many other Americans died violently this past week. Why link these four together?

The answer comes down to a dark suspicion and a few hard facts which suggest that one or more of these four deaths might have had something to do with these individuals' work against pedophiles and human trafficking, or the official corruption so often surrounding both.

Source .

Now Jeffrey Epstein...

Jessica Ramer Amy Ehlers a day ago
The sexual abuse of children and kids in their early teens is a very democratic crime. While physical abuse and neglect are linked to lower-income parents, sexual abuse occurs in all strata of society. It is not confined to the elites or to money changers. Nor to Jews, if that is what you are implying.

Just about everyone in America has a family member who was sexually abused by someone who was usually not elite. Therefore, I cannot get worked up about class issues because of Jeffrey Epstein.

What I can get worked up about are the way elites start wars for poor people to die in and the way poor people get cruel sentences while the elite either walk or get the Epstein treatment--private wing, generous work release.

mrscracker Jessica Ramer 16 hours ago
I agree. Young girls are trafficked in more circles than the elite. I don't understand the connection to any particular social class. But better connected people do have better lawyers and can get away with more. Until like Mr. Epstein , they don't.
Bill In Montgomey a day ago • edited
The true character of these people is starting to be revealed. This (lack of) character is not only displayed when these men travel to Pedo Island, it's on display everywhere they go, in everything they do. Every organization they lead, or have anything to do with, is likely rotten to the core.

Unconcerned about negative consequences, these people have become increasingly brazen. They certainly know that the laws that apply to you and me do not apply to them.

If the system is so corrupt to have protected Epstein for decades, who else is being protected? Who else is getting away with figurative rape in every department of government, or house of finance?

The sooner the public recognizes the "true face" of our elites and rulers the better. Left to their own devices, these people - who think they have class but in reality are the worst kind of trash - can bring down a nation.

Krazy Uncle Bill In Montgomey a day ago
who else is being protected?

Good point... who else indeed... and how many more children are suffering?

prodigalson a day ago
Literally no one I know thought this guy would make it to trial alive with the exception of me, as I still had some hope in the system, and I was proven wrong. I've lost whatever remaining faith I had in the system.

In the words of George Carlin, "it's a big club, and you ain't in it." I stopped reading after the first two para's on this, tone is exactly the same as the sneering disdain from the empire's various MSM propaganda arms aimed at those "not in the club."

Sid Finster a day ago
There are two possibilities here:

1) Either our intelligence agencies knew what was going on with Epstein and did nothing to stop him. Or...

2) They had no clue ... which would mean our much vaunted intelligence community knew nothing about the travel habits of the "ruling class" of the world, about Jeff Epstein's real activities, had received no tips, had no insiders, and were incapable of "putting two and two together," etc. In short, Big Brother - with all its resources and intelligence and sources - with capabilities that put the Gestapo or the KGB to shame - had no idea.

Occam's Razor says Possibility No. 1 is more likely to be the truth. But what would such a truth tell us?

Mccormick47 Sid Finster a day ago
The third possibility is that BigBrother was in on it and didn't object to sacrificing teenage girls to get compromising information on people they wanted tp blackmail.
Sid Finster a day ago
"What I am saying is that Epstein's direct testimony – AND ONLY EPSTEIN'S DIRECT TESTIMONY – had the potential to create a Common Knowledge moment that could bring down – not just specific sociopathic oligarchs like Mob Boss Donald or Mob Boss Bill or Mob Boss Andrew if they were the specific targets of that testimony – but the entire Mob system of sociopathic oligarchy.

Jeffrey Epstein was the Missionary to bring down the monsters behind the monster, to bring down the SYSTEM of monsters. Jeffrey Epstein's books and records are not. The individual voices of Jeffrey Epstein's victims are not.

And that's what makes me angriest of all.

That while the individual victims of Jeffrey Epstein's crimes will maybe (maybe!) get some smattering of "justice" and recompense from the show trial of a monster's estate, there will be no Justice served against the monsters behind the monster, that the Mob system of sociopathic oligarchy that CREATED this Jeffrey Epstein and the next Jeffrey Epstein and the next and the next will continue unabated. Untouched. Golden."

https://www.epsilontheory.c...

Bill In Montgomey Sid Finster a day ago
One strongly suspects that Ghislaine Maxwell knows just as much as Epstein did. Her participation was just as important to the operation of this "trafficking" ring. She was the lead recruiter, handled logistics, "grooming" and also was Epstein's "in" to many of his VIP associates (who were really clients). If witness accounts are accurate, she was also a participant in a good number of these depraved, criminal acts.

The fact she has not been charged is quite the tell about our system of "justice."

Tony55398 a day ago
Whether Epstein was killed or committed suicide I don't know. I would however like to know who these elites were who participated in the rapes of these young girls. They are just as guilty as Epstein whether they knew the ages of these girls or not, it was there responsibility to find out.
ChristopherRobin1 a day ago
This is a dangerous slope. People once bowed to the elites because there was a principle of enforcement called nobless oblige. Society felt that elites had to be held to a higher standard because they carried greater responsibilities and burdens for society and the welfare of the national good.

Since the 1960s nobless oblige has been downgraded to sound bites and photo ops for publicity and marketing. The elites have all but abandoned their responsibilities to support religion, to support education (except to indocrinate), to support tradition and society and the national good. The elites have become inward looking, inbred and narcissistic with little to no outward focus except in a marxist totalitarian vein of thought which serves their interest, indulges their hungers, preserves their wealth and power.

What you are have been seeing since the 1960s is the veneer being pulled off the rich and powerful. I would say Nixon and Princess Diana and Ted Kennedy did the most to pull down the veneer from the rich and powerful but it could be argued that Nixon and Princess Diana and Ted Kennedy were accidental victims of circumstance. However Epstein's human trafficking of children for sex and blackmail .... breaks the most because his crimes were no accident nor was he a victim of circumstance. Epstein planned this and created an organization around it elevating his elitist crimes to a level no that I dont think anyone in modern history can match.

atimoshenko ChristopherRobin1 a day ago
I doubt that history's elites were ever any better. It's just that with far less transparency and access, it was much easier for them to hide how awful they were. The 1960s was the start of mass media, and so the veneer started to crack.
Bill In Montgomey ChristopherRobin1 a day ago
I do think this COULD qualify as "the story of the century." That is, If the story was told in its entirety - all "names" exposed.

If fully told, the swamp might, in fact, be "drained."

Now the people in said swamp have a strong incentive to protect their domain. Which is why so many of us are skeptical the true story will ever be told.

If there was ever a time where brave and patriotic whistleblowers were needed ...

BXVI a day ago • edited
"This is, of course, what most populists profess: the people as a group are wholesome, the elites as a group are venal, and the former has to be vaulted over the latter in order for society to be made whole again."

Sorry, but take a look at the average American. The so-called "people" are for the most part just as morally obtuse as the "elites" but they carry the additional burden of being not only ignorant but also stupid. Just look around. Best recent example of the utter stupidity of the American people: a recent survey shows they think 23% of the population is gay. Really.

johnhenry a day ago
"Hands up, those of you who made a Fort Marcy Park joke last Saturday."

Matt, are you tired of people making jokes about *purple prose*?
Just wondering :)

atimoshenko a day ago
But isn't the issue exactly that the "only difference between the rich and other people is that the rich have more money" comment is perfectly true?

The rich and powerful are us, but corrupted by riches and power. Many of them behave the way many of us would quickly start to behave if we found ourselves in their shoes. If the gap in power between you and most other people is so huge that you can do anything to them and get away with it, your morals stop applying to them because you start to view them as somewhat subhuman. In this sense, I'm sure Epstein never even thought of raping the underage daughters of other elites.

Thus, the issue is stratospheric inequality of power (by whatever fungible measure you choose - money, political, religious, social, etc). And we see it happen ALL the time throughout history and across geographies - as soon as the power gap is in excess of social boundaries, as soon as there is a group of people you can do pretty much anything you want to and get away with it, you start going a little crazy. Exploitation, rape, torture, murder, slavery - everything starts looking justified. Then it's just a matter of degree, with tin-pot dictators on one end and Epstein somewhere in the middle.

Cosmin Visan atimoshenko 20 hours ago
Read Machiavelli. He observed that the popolo minuti (regular folks) just wished to be left alone by authorities whereas popolo grossi (fat cats) were of a different psychological composition: they delighted in deception, were vain, greedy and hungry for power.

Centuries later, studies of psychopaths reveal these creatures are different from regular humans at the brain level. The elites are psychopathic (the key ones are) and no, they ain't like regular people. They are literally a different kind.

atimoshenko Cosmin Visan 11 hours ago • edited
My point was that as popolo minuti transform into popolo grossi in terms of access to power, they tend to start to transform into them in terms of moral character as well. (Inequality of) power corrupts, and absolute (inequality of) power corrupts absolutely. Thus, it seems that the over-representation of psychopaths in positions of power is because the psychopathy is acquired (and plenty of studies show drastic declines in empathy with even a little priming for power), rather than because it is easier for psychopaths to rise to the top. The worst of the popolo grossi tend to be hereditary.

In my opinion, there is nothing so dangerous as to believe that evil people are a different breed from the rest of us. Instead, they tend to simply be us, but in different circumstances. History tends to show that revolutions aimed at replacing the evil people with better people end up with corrupted revolutionaries, rather than a fundamentally less abusive system.

minsredmash atimoshenko 6 hours ago • edited
"It reminds me of a well known speech by a defense counsel, who pleaded his client's poverty as an excuse of robbing and murdering six of his victims, on the lines that "My client's poverty drove him to murder six people, everybody else would have done the same!"

Dostoevsky, The Idiot.

phreethink a day ago
Outstanding article. However, I think we're a lot closer to 1789 France than we want to believe. Read some Chris Hedges to see how the socialists see the current situation. Here's an example. https://www.commondreams.or...
Zsuzsi Kruska a day ago
Elites, that is those with more wealth and/or power than the rest of the masses have always been this way. Remember how decadent the European aristocracy was with their sport of "wenching"? that is going around in groups raping young peasant girls. Also, there was the Hellfire Club which you can research if you want details. This scandal will get less and less coverage in the MSM until it fades away like all the others involving the rich and powerful.
Jr. a day ago
The Global "Elite" control our Ruling Class by means of blackmail. A person does not get raised to high truly influential positions of power(Politicians, Judges, Hollywood, etc.) unless they have enough dirt on you to know that they can control you without question. The most powerful form of blackmail that they have is ped0filia because it is THE most abhorrent crime that someone can commit, so much so that even criminals in prison refuse to allow ped0 scumbags to be housed near them.

Trump has an obvious penchant for beautiful WOMEN not kids. He was helping and somewhat part of the "Elite" in that he was joining in with them to buy politicians for influence but Trump neutralized that being over his head by openly admitting to buying politicians. They thought it was safe to allow him to run because they thought it was a joke and he would never get elected. They were wrong. In my opinion, they don't have enough dirt on him to get him to go along with their agenda of selling out the USA to the highest bidder hence the all-out attacks on him.

The key to understanding the "Elite"/Ruling Class dynamic is not conflating the two and realizing that blackmail is the main tool used by the one to keep the other under their control.

*Sorry about the Trump tangent above but it's absolutely ridiculous that people are trying to tie Trump to Epstein even though Trump has been trying to bring national attention to the Epstein case FOR YEARS.

Cosmin Visan 20 hours ago
"given that all available evidence points to gross negligence on the part of the jail." How is gross negligence different from deliberate negligence?

You can tell? And btw the WaPo just came out with news that broken bones in Epstein's neck are more usual in cases of homicide.
I generally see anyone who belittles

'Conspiracy theorists' as part of an Establishment that uses 'incompetence' as the perennial excuse for everything that goes wrong.

stevek9 19 hours ago • edited
The old accusation, that you are a 'conspiracy theorist' (a term invented by the CIA after the Kennedy assassination) is holding less and less weight. The irrational kooks now seem to be the people who think Epstein committed suicide. Jokes were everywhere about how 'we were shocked to hear about the suicide of Jeffrey Epstein, next Tuesday' when a day later we hear, 'Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide'.

By the way, this equivalence between Trump and Clinton is bogus, I believe. There isn't much evidence of any involvement of Trump (some evidence to the contrary in fact), but there is a load of evidence suggesting 'Wild Bill' was availing himself.

JeffK from PA stevek9 5 hours ago • edited
Remember when Maxine Waters was labelled a kook for saying the CIA was bringing cocaine into her LA district? She was mocked and ridiculed. Now we know she was right. You can't make this stuff up.
YoungHegelian2020 18 hours ago
I'm sorry, but this case stinks to high heaven, and if you're ready to accept "gross negligence" as the explanation you're likely to believe ANYTHING the authorities tell you. Epstein was either murdered, as the autopsy and reports of shrieking from his cell indicate, or subbed out by intelligence services and replaced by a murdered homeless person who received plastic surgery. Study the history of modern intelligence services: appearances are deceiving, and systemic disinformation is endemic to politics. Careful public speculation, acknowledging where we're uncertain, is very much the responsible thing to do; otherwise there is no hope of democratic accountability. The investigation we're being promised will be conducted by the exact same institution -- the US Department of Justice -- that was responsible for keeping Epstein safe and securing his public testimony about his criminal network. These are the people you want us to trust? Come on, a little critical reasoning, please!
Bryan 10 hours ago
The most ridiculous part is the idea that being rich and powerful gives you a predilection to turn a blind eye. My wife's family turned a blind eye to a perverted uncle that molested multiple family members over decades. No one stood up, it would've been a shame to them to admit it. How is this any different?
Will Thomas 10 hours ago • edited
No one really cares. He was pretty rich. Talk radio and weird cable conspiracies shows will benefit. Truth is irrelevant.

[Aug 15, 2019] You can't make this up: Ghislaine Maxwell was spotted reading a book called "The Book of Honor: The Secret Lives and Deaths of CIA Operatives"

Aug 15, 2019 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

Deschain , , August 15, 2019 at 5:06 pm

https://nypost.com/2019/08/15/jeffrey-epsteins-gal-pal-ghislaine-maxwell-spotted-at-in-n-out-burger-in-first-photos-since-his-death/

> Maxwell was reading a book called "The Book of Honor: The Secret Lives and Deaths of CIA Operatives"

You can't make this up. It's like they are doing everything possible to give conspiracy theorists maximum ammo. All we need now is to find out that Maxwell's Twitter handle is '#M0554d4g3nt4L1f3'

Librarian Guy , August 15, 2019 at 7:38 pm

That is hilarious, thank you for the link– & at first I misread that title as “The Book of Horror”- perhaps more fitting to the actual topic.

Summer , August 15, 2019 at 5:33 pm

“Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein’s one-time girlfriend and alleged co-conspirator, was spotted Monday at an In-N-Out Burger in Universal City, California, of all places.”

I pass this place nearly every day…
Need me to grab her?

[Aug 15, 2019] Kit Knightly at OffGuardian has a great commentary on how the Guardian is shaping its coverage of this Epstein situation, particularly in regard to all us conjecturing types:

Aug 15, 2019 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

Baby Gerald , August 15, 2019 at 4:46 pm

Kit Knightly at OffGuardian has a great commentary on how the Guardian is shaping its coverage of this Epstein situation, particularly in regard to all us conjecturing types:

Guardian Attacks Epstein "Conspiracy Theories"

It's a pretty scathing take-down and a fun read.

todde , August 15, 2019 at 6:25 pm

from the article:

which totally ignores a cardinal rule when dealing with state agencies: They will only admit to incompetence if the truth is worse.

LOL. Mirrors what I said earlier.

true, so very true.

[Aug 15, 2019] I have insufficient information to make a judgement, however I do consider it more likely than not that Epstein was killed.

Such statements means loss of the confidence in justice system and neoliberal elite ability to provide eqaul justice for all..
Aug 15, 2019 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

Tom Stone , , August 14, 2019 at 10:02 am

For what it is worth ( Not much), I have spoken to about a dozen people about Epstein's death. Not one of them believes Epstein committed suicide. I asked a wide range of people from small town mayors to Realtors to a commercial fisherman.

I have insufficient information to make a judgement, however I do consider it more likely than not that Epstein was killed. My opinion is based on nothing more than 60 plus years of paying attention to how things really work, it was a mighty convenient death.

[Aug 14, 2019] Johnny Carson used to joke "do you know how bad the economy is these days?" [sidekick] "no, Johnny, just how bad is the economy?" "it's so bad, organised crime has had to lay off 5 judges this week "

Notable quotes:
"... This is doomed to dissolve. To a greater and significant degree, the public is finding true justice wanting, and thus holds no trust in Government, at All levels. ..."
Aug 14, 2019 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

Clive , August 14, 2019 at 9:25 am

Then you get a tame judge assigned (and that's nothing new, even Johnny Carson used to joke "do you know how bad the economy is these days?" [sidekick] "no, Johnny, just how bad is the economy?" "it's so bad, organised crime has had to lay off 5 judges this week ") to let Epstein off with a slap on the wrist, a year at the Four Seasons low security penitentiary and early release through time served.

Much simpler than any of the other notions and achieves exactly the same result (Epstein is subject to "the full force of the law" but stays happily alive to tell the tale and keep his finger off the Dead Mans Switch).

If you were in charge of all this, which solution would you try first? If you've ever worked in a big, but incompetent, organisation (and if they're big, they're almost certainly going to be incompetence personified), you wouldn't even need to ask yourself that question.

polecat , August 14, 2019 at 3:11 pm

This is doomed to dissolve. To a greater and significant degree, the public is finding true justice wanting, and thus holds no trust in Government, at All levels.

But hey that's just conspiracy theory talk .. right ?

[Aug 14, 2019] In any case the stuff the Deep State factions are struggling over, war, empire, funny money, and other con games, are inherently corrupt and corrupting, and formal dominance could only mean submission to the rules of the Game. Probably better to lose influentially; victory is death.

Notable quotes:
"... In the case of Epstein, I was thinking not that he was a principal who had to be offed because he ' knew too much ', but was more like the racehorse whose head winds up in someone's bed. ..."
Aug 14, 2019 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

Anarcissie , , August 14, 2019 at 5:03 pm

If you consider social democrat types to be Left -- the 'near Left' -- then they've made great progress during the reign of Trump. It is true they are nowhere near dominance as yet, but in any case the stuff the Deep State factions are struggling over, war, empire, funny money, and other con games, are inherently corrupt and corrupting, and formal dominance could only mean submission to the rules of the Game. Probably better to lose influentially; victory is death.

In the case of Epstein, I was thinking not that he was a principal who had to be offed because he ' knew too much ', but was more like the racehorse whose head winds up in someone's bed. Or hearing that someone has been given plutonium tea. 'We can do this, sucker!'

elissa3 , , August 14, 2019 at 2:55 pm

A more elaborate take on factional struggle: https://www.oftwominds.com/blogaug19/deep-state-war8-19.html

[Aug 14, 2019] Is this RICO case

Aug 14, 2019 | www.unz.com

Hopscotch , says: August 10, 2019 at 11:55 pm GMT

If Trump were interested in "winning", as he likes to claim, he would push the DOJ to view this as a RICO case, not one about a single rich pedophile. There was a criminal organization at work here, with multiple conspirators and enablers. They should be indicted. Additionally, there are enough people on the periphery -- ex-presidents, financiers, professors, etc -- that deserve to be dragged in front of a jury, where they can publicly plead the 5th.

This should have been the approach from Day 1, and hopefully, Epstein's suspicious death will be a catalyst for it.

[Aug 13, 2019] Epstein's business was to facilitate one spcific form of corruption of politicians and other powerfule players

Aug 13, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

karlof1 , Aug 12 2019 5:55 utc | 74

Craig Murray's sober, reflective note on Epstein begins and ends with corruption as its main theme. I hope people find the time to read it. He doesn't delve deeply, but at base it what is known as seigniory rights--the right of the lord to take and rape whomever he wants with impunity, which is one of the most brutal forms of corruption imaginable. Epstein's business was to facilitate that form of corruption. Yes, it's illegal and immoral, but the primary fact is that its corrupt--it has no sanction whatsoever. And it's exactly that sort of primal corruption that is visited upon the vast majority daily. Passing legislation that will knowingly result in the poisoning of millions--stunting the brains of the young--which was just done and signed into law by Trump is what I'm writing about. It's a different form of rape, but it's rape nonetheless. But it seems that only bothers me, and Craig Murray.

Jay , Aug 12 2019 13:35 utc | 91

Tonymike:


So "it's all the fault of the Jews and the Israelis, no one else is ever involved in sex trafficking of young "white" girls", sarcasm from me.

Why don't you drop your BS auto-anti-Semitism and look at everyone else documented to have been involved.

/div>

For those who claim public view of Epsteins corpse,very understandably and necessary ,I would say,that even then there's possibility of being misled.The film industry manages to produce props that look very real,human face included.I stood once before a prop representing the corpse of a shot down horse,even at fifty cm from it I thought it was real.There was no smell of course,but even that can be staged.The people allowed to view Epsteins cadaver really would need to put a knife in it,to assure its being real,and then try to pull off the mask that could be his face.

Posted by: willie , Aug 12 2019 14:02 utc | 94

For those who claim public view of Epsteins corpse,very understandably and necessary ,I would say,that even then there's possibility of being misled.The film industry manages to produce props that look very real,human face included.I stood once before a prop representing the corpse of a shot down horse,even at fifty cm from it I thought it was real.There was no smell of course,but even that can be staged.The people allowed to view Epsteins cadaver really would need to put a knife in it,to assure its being real,and then try to pull off the mask that could be his face.

Posted by: willie | Aug 12 2019 14:02 utc | 94

willie , Aug 12 2019 11:11 utc | 84 Taffyboy , Aug 12 2019 11:25 utc | 85
Interesting list, sorry about the length of copy and paste, from Zerohedge then.

In 2016 CBS Las Vegas posted a list of Bill and Hillary Clinton associates alleged to have died under mysterious circumstances.

Here is that list.

1- James McDougal – Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.

2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder happened just after she was to go public w:th her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3 – Vince Foster – Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the Air Traffic controller commited suicide.

5 – C. Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "dear friend and trusted advisor".

7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas

10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..

11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 – Paula Grober – Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17 – Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter, investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18 – Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his Washington DC apartment had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington ,Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death: Unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, naked body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21 – Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton 's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.

23 – Barry Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.

24 – Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

26 – Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.

27 – Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.

29 – Keith McMaskle – Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

32 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes".

34 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE ALSO DEAD
35 – Major William S. Barkley, Jr.

36 – Captain Scott J . Reynolds

37 – Sgt. Brian Hanley

38 – Sgt. Tim Sabel

39 – Major General William Robertson

40 – Col. William Densberger

41 – Col. Robert Kelly

42 – Spec. Gary Rhodes

43 – Steve Willis

44 – Robert Williams

45 – Conway LeBleu

46 – Todd McKeehan

And the most recent, Seth Rich, the DC staffer murdered and "robbed" (of nothing) on July 10. Wikileaks founder Assange claims he had info on the DNC email scandal.

Not Included in this list are the 4 heroes killed in Benghazi.

And now you can add multi-millionaire Jeffrey Epstein to the list...

[Aug 13, 2019] 'Shrieking' Heard From Epstein's Jail Cell The Morning He Died

Notable quotes:
"... With Epstein dead, four women accused of recruiting underage girls for sex with the pedophile financier are coming into focus, including British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell - who has denied all claims ..."
"... She was more of a partner in his obsession, really," said Miami Herald reporter Julie Brown , who spent more than two years looking into Epstein's controversial 2008 plea deal. "And there are allegations that she was involved in having sex with some of these girls as well ..."
"... Court documents from 2011 reveal Epstein controlled several apartments in a building just blocks from his $77 million New York townhouse and allegedly housed "underage girls from all over the world ..."
Aug 13, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

With Epstein dead, four women accused of recruiting underage girls for sex with the pedophile financier are coming into focus, including British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell - who has denied all claims.

On Monday, AG Barr said that Epstein's alleged co-conspirators "should not rest easy" just because Epstein won't have his day in court.

"Let me assure you that case will continue on against anyone who was complicit with Epstein," said Barr in remarks to a New Orleans law enforcement group, "Any co-conspirators should not rest easy. Victims deserve justice and will get it."

Maxwell is said to be Epstein's ex-girlfriend turned business associate. Her current location is unknown.

"She was more of a partner in his obsession, really," said Miami Herald reporter Julie Brown , who spent more than two years looking into Epstein's controversial 2008 plea deal. "And there are allegations that she was involved in having sex with some of these girls as well."

Court documents from 2011 reveal Epstein controlled several apartments in a building just blocks from his $77 million New York townhouse and allegedly housed "underage girls from all over the world." - CBS News

[Aug 12, 2019] If the authorities and the Ministry of Truth say that Epstein is dead I go to my Orwellian dictionary and it states that he is alive .

Aug 12, 2019 | www.unz.com

9/11 Inside job , says: August 11, 2019 at 11:33 pm GMT

Per ArcAngel "If the authorities and the Ministry of Truth say that Epstein is dead I go to my Orwellian dictionary and it states that he is alive . "

[Aug 12, 2019] After the Epstein episode, in the new batch of dollars printed

Aug 12, 2019 | www.unz.com

Ahoy , says: August 11, 2019 at 4:53 pm GMT

I don't know Duch, but in Miro23 #200 comment I thought I heard the banker Ronald Bernard (video) saying that after the Epstein episode, in the new batch of dollars printed the All Seen Eye was shown in a new mode. In Murder We Trust and sometimes Suicide.

[Aug 12, 2019] Jeffrey Epstein RIP by Philip Giraldi

The big question now is will his pimpette Giselle Maxwell sing
Aug 12, 2019 | www.unz.com

The Jeffrey Epstein saga goes on even though convicted pedophile Epstein himself has been found hanged in his jail cell in Manhattan. One has to wonder how he managed to kill himself, if that is indeed the case, as he was reportedly on suicide watch at the prison and it is to be presumed that he had been stripped of any clothing or accoutrements that would have been usable to that end. So, he is dead but did he do it himself or was he helped? There are many prominent individuals and powerful government agencies that will be very pleased that he is gone as most of his secrets will have gone to the grave with him.

There was certainly a warning that something might happen. Two weeks ago, he was reportedly found unconscious in his jail cell with marks around his neck. It was suggested that he might have tried to kill himself or, alternatively, had been beaten up by another inmate. There was also considerable speculation that some aggrieved part of the Deep State was trying to kill him to silence him.

The subsequent press reports revealed that Epstein had been taken to a hospital, but there has been no follow-up about his condition or status apart from a brief note that he had been returned to the same jail under suicide watch. In any event, the story had pretty much died, which is precisely what a lot of the high rollers and politicians who became involved with Epstein would have liked to see happen. Nevertheless, investigations of the "Affair Epstein" reportedly were continuing at the federal level as well as in New York State and Florida.

The most recent elaboration of the Epstein saga prior to his death came from his former patron Leslie Wexner, the canny Jewish business tycoon who built an Ohio based fashion empire called L Brands from scratch. L Brands, by the way, includes Victoria's Secret, which features young women strutting around in their underwear. The 81 year old Wexner claimed in a 564 word letter that the wily Epstein "misappropriated vast sums of money" from him. In the letter Wexner admitted to having lost at least $46 million from his family money, but some media accounts are suggesting that the fraud amounted to much more, possibly as much as $500 million. And the alleged theft also extended to property, to include the series of transactions that left Epstein possessing the Upper East Side mansion where he resided and did his filming of celebrities having sex with young girls, estimated to be worth $56 million, as well as the commercial airliner that became the Lolita Express and a yacht.

(Leslie Wexner. Credit: American Academy of Achievement/ YouTube)

Now, either sum of purloined money is not exactly pocket change even for multi-billionaire Wexner, even if rag trade magnate was enamored of the massages he was getting at Epstein's house. It would take an extremely poor businessman to be unaware of losing that kind of money and that much property unless his name were Donald Trump.

Wexler claimed that he began to sever ties with Epstein in 2007, after Florida authorities charged Jeffrey in early 2006 with multiple counts of molestation and unlawful sexual activity with a minor. In 2008, Epstein pleaded guilty to state charges of solicitation of prostitution from a minor and was required to register as a sex offender, but he received an astonishingly mild jail sentence of eighteen months with a private cell, unlimited visitors including young women, and daily release so he could be picked up by his driver to go to work in his Palm Beach office, a bit of incomprehensible leniency that is currently being subjected to criminal investigation by the state of Florida. After the sentence was handed down the county sheriff observed that "He was astonished that [Epstein] had to go to prison at all."

Indeed, the entire Florida side of the Epstein story seems to have disappeared down some memory hole. Epstein was convicted for his involvement with prostitution, but the only remaining issue was the consequences that he faced. That is where other players stepped in, including Harvard Law Professor Emeritus Alan Dershowitz, Palm Beach county state attorney Barry Krischer, and the Miami office U.S. Attorney Alexander Acosta.

My belief that Jeffrey Epstein was an intelligence agent is based principally on Acosta's comments when being cleared by the Trump transition team. He was asked "Is the Epstein case going to cause a problem [for confirmation hearings]?" "Acosta testified that he'd had just one meeting on the Epstein case. He'd cut the non-prosecution deal with one of Epstein's attorneys because he had 'been told' to back off, that Epstein was above his pay grade. 'I was told Epstein belonged to intelligence and to leave it alone.'"

The questions about Epstein remain even though he is gone, but one fears that the authorities will be disinclined to further investigate a dead man. It appears that no one in the various investigative agencies or the mainstream media has been interested in what Acosta meant, even though it would be simple enough to ask him. Who told him to back off? And how did they explain it? And then there is Epstein's Austrian passport. Was it fake or real, with a real name and photo substitution or alternation of both picture and name? How did he get it? Austrian passports are highly desirable in intelligence circles because the country is neutral and its holders can travel just about everywhere without a visa.

And there's more. As a former intelligence officer myself, there is little doubt in my mind that what Epstein did and how he did it was an intelligence operation. There is no other viable explanation for his filming of prominent politicians and celebrities having sex with young girls. And as for the question of whom Epstein might have been working for, the most likely answer is Mossad . The CIA would have had no interest in compiling dossiers on prominent Americans, but American movers and shakers like Bill Clinton, with his 26 trips on the Lolita Express , former Governor Bill Richardson, or former Senator George Mitchell are precisely the types of "agents of influence" that the Mossad would seek to coerce or even blackmail into cooperation.

Other compelling evidence for a Mossad connection came from Epstein's relationship with Ghislaine Maxwell, who reportedly served as his key procurer of young girls. Ghislaine is the daughter of Robert Maxwell , who died or possibly was assassinated in mysterious circumstances in 1991. Maxwell was an Anglo-Jewish businessman, very cosmopolitan in profile, like Epstein, a multi-millionaire who was very controversial with what were regarded as ongoing ties to Mossad. After his death, he was given a state funeral by Israel in which six serving and former heads of Israeli intelligence listened while Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir eulogized : "He has done more for Israel than can today be said."

Israel and high-profile Jewish players also have continued to turn up like bad pennies in the Epstein case, but no one seems to be interested in pursuing that angle. Epstein clearly had contact with former Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres and Ehud Barak and Wexner also had close ties to the Jewish state and its government. Barry Krischer, who may have been the source of the comments to Acosta, has received the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) award . Evidence also suggests that Krischer, cooperating with rabidly pro-Israel Epstein lawyer Alan Dershowitz, played a key role in the failure to adequately punish Epstein for his conviction for pedophilia. According to a recent New Yorker story , the police investigators of the Epstein case observed that "the tone and tenor of the discussions of this case with Krischer changed completely" after his meetings with Dershowitz. At that point, the two detectives most involved in the case found themselves under extreme pressure. They were surveilled constantly by private investigators and they even had their household trash snatched and searched. And the resulting plea agreement with Krischer " was due to the efforts of Dershowitz, who had proceeded to attack and smear the victims."

Krischer claims that his office "subpoenaed witnesses took evidence to a Grand Jury, which returned a single felony count indictment against Epstein of soliciting prostitution," but the reality appears to be that he worked with the defense to get Epstein off. There was plenty of evidence based on more than forty interviews with victims to convict Epstein, but instead of having him arrested, Krischer instead set up the Grand Jury with no mention of underage victims to mitigate the possible consequences. He also did not inform the victims of what he had arranged so they could challenge the verdict and penalty, a violation of Crime Victims Rights Act.

The Palm Beach police who worked the case at the time told The Miami Herald as part of an investigation published in November that they felt pressured by Krischer to downgrade Epstein's case to a misdemeanor, or to drop it entirely. They said "the fix was in." Acosta, more recently, did not refer to Krischer by name during an early July news conference, but spoke of the Palm Beach County state's attorney. He described his own office as stepping in to ensure Epstein faced some form of punishment. "Simply put, the Palm Beach State Attorney's Office was willing to let Epstein walk free. No jail time. Nothing," Acosta said. "Prosecutors in my former office found this to be completely unacceptable, and we became involved."

After thirteen months in country club jail in Palm Beach, Epstein was released. At his mansion in New York City, he subsequent had an artist paint a mural of himself in jail, evidently as an insider joke for those who knew about his time behind bars. End of story? Not exactly, even though Epstein is now dead. But the key questions go unanswered including was he a spy for Israel? And what about the Krischer-Dershowitz connection that kept him from being punished commensurate with his crimes? Did those instructions also come from Israel or from its friends in the U.S. Justice Department? Will the three simultaneous investigations currently taking place even continue and ask the right questions now that the target of the investigation is gone? Given the high stakes in the game, quite likely, there will be a cover-up both of how Epstein lived and how he died. We the public will never know what Epstein was all about.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation (Federal ID Number #52-1739023) that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected]


iffen , says: August 10, 2019 at 5:54 pm GMT

We the public will never know what Epstein was all about.

Astute observation, which means of course that we can endlessly speculate with little fear of contradiction.

Question: If I film a person having sex with an underage girl I have committed a major felony. How many people would use that film as blackmail knowing that its release will land him in prison?

Colin Wright , says: Website August 10, 2019 at 6:06 pm GMT
For too many people, it's the ideal outcome. Bill Clinton, Alan Dershowitz, Prince Andrew those are the ones we spotted.

Moreover, it's possible the pool was about to expand a lot. Drawn by the scent of that supposed five hundred million dollar fortune, a law firm was searching for more of Epstein's victims. Who knows who they would have named?

There would have been a welter of civil suits, All the beans could have been spilled.

And gee now we'll never know. I doubt if much trace of that supposed fortune is ever going to be found. It never was clear how Epstein made money, or even who he made it from, and yet he had multiple fabulous estates -- including his own private island -- and a private Boeing 727. Whoever supplied the funds for all this is going to go away, leaving no trail behind them.

Colin Wright , says: Website August 10, 2019 at 6:12 pm GMT
I'm reminded of the considerably more obscure Zygier case.

Zygier was an Australian Jew who followed that familiar path for idealistic young Jews from the diaspora : get smitten with Israel, make aliyah , and serve in Israel's noble armed forces.

In Zygier's case, his service took the form of joining the Mossad. Evidently, he saw something there that offended his refined ethical sensibilities; he was locked up and held incommunicado pending trial. Sadly, he 'committed suicide' -- in a cell under twenty-four hour suicide watch -- before he could appear in court.

The M.O. seems the same.

Lot , says: August 10, 2019 at 6:29 pm GMT
@Colin Wright "a law firm was searching for more of Epstein's victims. Who knows who they would have named?"

They can still sue his estate. Not like it matters much for civil suits if he is dead. His testimony would not have been credible or helpful for either side.

Kayjay , says: August 10, 2019 at 7:05 pm GMT
I can't even understand why he came back to the states to be arrested. With all his contacts he must have known that if he came here that would be the outcome. If the powers that be wanted to get rid of him he would have had an accident ages ago. Maybe it was more important to have him arrested and instill fear in all the people caught up by his honey trap it certainly would help to exert pressure if there was a particular agenda that needed to be accomplished. My feeling is that he has been whisked off to a new life with his awesome retirement package.
peterAUS , says: August 10, 2019 at 7:13 pm GMT
Beautiful, for a couple of reasons:

TPTBs really, REALLY, don't care what the rest think or feel. Well, except for one thing, maybe: "Look what we can do to one of us. Now .think a bit, what can we do to YOU?".

The "rest", at the same time, also don't care much. Most people won't simply register this. So much for "informing/educating people to create a positive social change".

The very mechanisms of society which are supposed to prevent this, let alone investigate and punish the perpetrators, obviously, won't do it. Independent ..hahahaha ..media. Judiciary. Police. Famed security services.
If this had happened anywhere else in the world the USA media/public would've been shitting, with reason, all over it. Not in the land of free. Well, that does prove that American society is exceptional.

This is really "in your face". Scary, actually, how "they" really don't care. Not because "they" are what they are. Because "we" are what "we" are.

It would be interesting to see what's going to happen to the plebs involved. My take: some disciplinary action now. And, perhaps, the same guy(s) employed somewhere with much better pay and perks.

Or dead. Doesn't' matter, of course.

What a world. Just beautiful.

anon [544] Disclaimer , says: August 10, 2019 at 7:20 pm GMT
"If I film a person having sex with an underage girl I have committed a major felony. How many people would use that film as blackmail knowing that its release will land him in prison?"

For the same reason people build nuclear weapons but don't ever use them: the potential for MAD is there should anyone get out of line and attack so there is never an attack. The money keeps flowing to Israel and no administration votes against them in the UN.* Besides, if Epstein were contracted by Mossad, they presumably would have copies of this dirt and they could easily release it through a third party. That's certainly a calculation the victims would have made. We already know a former Israeli PM with high level contacts in the IDF and, possibly, Mossad not only had personal contact with Epstein but also had a business relationship with him through a company based in Israel. Wexner could have funneled money through that company to conceal the operation's finances, which would have been beyond the ability of US regulators to examine.

Personally, I find it incredulous that Wexner would have been unaware of missing $500 million. That's an extraordinary sum. We know Wenxer is an ardent Israeli nationalist who has in the past organized fellow Jewish billionaires (Study Group / Mega Group) for the purposes of promoting "Jewish charity" the perfect front to run an operation. Study this man's ties and you will almost certainly find Mossad. Wexner was the perfect means to fund Epstein's operation: wealthy, ethnocentric, and highly connected to other big time players in finance, politics, and the entertainment industries (great for recruiting) – the perfect cover to shield Israel from blow back in the unlikely event the operation became public. This was Mossad. Count on it. it's what I would do.

*Sorta funny how American administrations stopped voting against Israeli interests around the time when video cameras became widespread, isn't it? Further, has anyone ever wondered what happens when all those freshly minted democrats join leadership in their freshmen luxury tours of Israel? Seems like the perfect time to gather some dirt. I wonder if their hotel rooms get special visits from young women? If I were honest CIA, I might have a problem with this activity if I were honestly working for this country and not a certain other one, that is.

unit472 , says: August 10, 2019 at 7:48 pm GMT
So many questions and we are supposed to have confidence in the same FBI and DOJ that created Russiagate to investigate another stinking pile of corruption? Why not appoint James Comey as a special counsel to investigate the Epstein affair? That will keep everything hidden for a few years.

Here's what bothers me. George Mitchell, Bill Richardson even Bill Clinton are has beens and, let's face it, to a septuagenarian lecher the difference between an 16 year old and an 18 year old girl is a distinction without a difference. Epstein could have run his version of the Playboy Mansion unhindered for the rest of his life had he just made sure his 'pleasure units' had drivers licenses that said they were 18. Hell, Monica Lewinsky was 21 and Bill Clinton risked his presidency to conceal that affair. If blackmail is your game you don't need teenyboppers to ruin a political career. Ask Gary Hart or John Edwards!

There is something missing in this Epstein drama. Something so devastating that it goes beyond any single person's survival. Something that would bring down an agency ( like the FBI ) were it to be revealed.

Goy , says: August 10, 2019 at 8:07 pm GMT
@peterAUS With all the dystopian bills and laws passed in the last two years, with the current attack on the 1st and 2nd amendment, with the effective neutering of congress and its politicians reduction to puppets for special interests and the lobby, finally with the attack on the internet, you knew the West is moving into totalitarian mode. But the murder-suicide of Epstein outright confirms it. Welcome to the USSA. It's a big club and YOU ain't in it!

Unless you are a billionaire, Zionist or top level agent useful to them of course.

But it does make you wonder what Americans will do. If the British crown had done a 1/10th of what the current elite does You have to wonder if Ernst Zundel's prophecy will come true in the end. Or if the people will really just go quietly into the night and slumber away consuming superhero movies, junk food and second-hand memories of a time long passed and dreams of a fake utopia that will never be and was a lie to begin with.

Colin Wright , says: Website August 10, 2019 at 8:37 pm GMT
@Lot ' They can still sue his estate. Not like it matters much for civil suits if he is dead. His testimony would not have been credible or helpful for either side.'

You assume they can find his estate. I imagine that -- the title to the plane, the island, the imaginary stock portfolio -- is all going to prove remarkably evanescent.

Whoever was funding Epstein is going to roll up the carpet behind them as they go. There'll be nothing to take.

CK , says: August 10, 2019 at 8:56 pm GMT
@Muggles Both of those deaths lead back to Mueller. Likewise the wrist slap for major kiddie porn distributor David Asimov ( son of Isaac ). If you venture farther back you find Mueller butt deep in the BCCI scandal.
Leif Sachs , says: August 10, 2019 at 9:25 pm GMT
As to how Epstein got his fake passport, it's highly likely he got it from Ronald Lauder, son of Estée Lauder and currently President of the World Jewish Congress. At the time Epstein received his fake Austrian passport, Lauder was US ambassador to Austria.

It's time Wexner's shady past received more scrutiny, as it would reveal everything about the true nature and extent of Epstein's operation. Wexner has had both ties to the mob and the CIA. He shared the same very private terminal for fueling and customs inspections at Rickenbacker Airport with the CIA's Southern Air Transport airline (later Evergreen Aviation), known for its "Torture Taxi" rendition flights and drug trafficking. Wexner used Southern Air Transport to fly clothing in from Hong Kong, which back in the day was the main heroin hub. It may be that Wexner received a cut of the CIA's drug money for serving as a front, at a time when Epstein was doing the book keeping for Wexner.

One of Wexner's brands is called Express, which started out as Limited Express. No doubt "Lolita Express" is a play on that, as there was a habit of using variations of the Limited name. Wexner had a super yacht called "Limitless" that Epstein used.

renfro , says: August 10, 2019 at 9:29 pm GMT
@anon

Personally, I find it incredulous that Wexner would have been unaware of missing $500 million.

Wexner knew it , he just didn't do anything about it which begs the question why? There is also the question of why Wexner gave Epstein a 'power of attorney' over his family charity fund. A man in his position would have a dozen attorneys who would have told him not to do that.

There were billions of dollars at risk on what Epstein could tell.

"Besides Lex Wexner of L Brands who now (15 years after the fact) says Epstein stole $45 million from him which he made no effort to get back there was Leon Black.

"Leon D. Black, head of Apollo Global Management one of the world's largest private equity firms
Black's links to Epstein have become a source of concern to some Apollo employees and investors, including the California Public Employees' Retirement System, which has committed more than $5 billion to 11 Apollo funds and is its second-largest shareholder.
"Calpers takes this issue very seriously," Wayne Davis, a spokesman for the Sacramento-based pension,"
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-31/jeffrey-epstein-had-a-door-into-apollo-his-deep-ties-with-black

Black and Apollo would have been ruined forever if Calpers had withdrawn their pension money because of links to Epstein sexcapades.
There are likely more WS and other financial figures linked to Epstein and there may have been crimes beyond underage girls such as actual sex trafficking and money laundering .his travel records included countries compatible with those activities.

Colin Wright , says: Website August 10, 2019 at 9:53 pm GMT
@Lot ' Maybe his money isn't as well hidden as we imagine. After all, he kept a big child porn stash right in NYC, and didn't move to a no-extradition country. So he was either expecting to get away with his crimes or just really sloppy '

Intentionally or not, you seem to be determinedly missing my point.

Maybe the money never was Epstein's. Maybe it was given to him to run the operations he ran. Epstein wasn't an independent operator so much as an employee.

Watch and see. If I'm right, everything will turn out to be in somebody else's name. There won't be an estate to sue.

jack daniels , says: August 10, 2019 at 10:32 pm GMT
I read that Epstein had been taken off suicide watch, that the video camera surveilling him had developed a technical malfunction, and that the guards assigned to him had been removed for 3 hours related to some maintenance chore. If this is so, there will be some explaining to do, and the internet will see to it that there is a lot of justified speculation. Even minor prisoners are under video-surveillance 24-7 in more modern facilities.

Since Epstein had hundreds or thousands of videos of prominent people having sex with minors, the state has a duty to the victims and the public to go through this material and prosecute the clients where possible. This will naturally open up the discussion of a possible blackmailing operation.

In a manner of speaking, God has done his part and the ball's in our court. If we don't do what we can to get this investigated properly we have ourselves to blame. This is a golden opportunity to expose the deep state. Don't be content to whine or listen to Hannity whine. Whiners are losers.

unit472 , says: August 10, 2019 at 10:34 pm GMT
@Colin Wright Epstein declared his assets to the court in an attempt to gain bond. Here is the breakdown.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/jeffrey-epstein-assets-listed-in-financial-disclosure-form-filed-by-lawyers-add-up-to-value-of-559120954-2019-07-16

Since Epstein appears to have no wife or children it will be interesting to see if he left a will or if, like Howard Hughes, some Melvin Dummar type emerges claiming Epstein's estate. Worth a try I suppose if you can get a lawyer to work on a contingency basis.

jack daniels , says: August 10, 2019 at 11:58 pm GMT
@iffen The point is that this man was on suicide watch not for his own sake so much as because the investigation and prosecution of his crimes and related ones were so important to the country.
Ron Unz , says: August 11, 2019 at 12:44 am GMT
I've recently been doing quite a lot of reading about the Syndicate gangsters of the 1930s-1940s, and another interesting historical parallel comes to mind

In 1941, Abe "Kid Twist" Reles, a senior figure in Brooklyn's Murder Inc. agreed to testify against America's top Syndicate bosses, providing detailed evidence about the 1,000 or so nationwide killings that his organization had performed on their behalf.

Obviously, the federal prosecutors were concerned about his safety in any ordinary jail, and stashed him in a suite of top-floor hotel rooms, where he was guarded 24-hours per day by rotating groups of six specially-selected police officers, who would keep him under constant surveillance. The doors were steel-plated and the rooms selected to preclude any long-range sniper.

Oops! Poor "Kid Twist" somehow decided to jump out the 5th story window and kill himself when all six of the on-duty guards happened to simultaneously doze off.

The Captain in command of the unit argued that it was accident rather than suicide, and the poor fellow had deliberately climbed out the window, intending to rappel down to the floor below, then walk back up the stairs and knock on the front door, thereby surprising his erstwhile guards with a amusing practical joke.

Syndicate killers planning to implicate their bosses should definitely avoid playing such "practical jokes"

Goy , says: August 11, 2019 at 1:15 am GMT
@Ron Unz What is so striking about the Epstein murder/suicide is not that high level witnesses like him would be targeted and taken out to protect the powerful people implied in his testimony. But that even the most casually informed observer of the case equipped with basic common knowledge would know and anticipate in advance with certainty that he would be targeted.

The fact that Epstein could be killed in the prison which protected El Chapo and where, allegedly, not a single inmate had comitted suicide under watch, with the dire warnings of many voices and red flags in advance, and a "suicide attempt" just shortly before, which already implied assault in his cell, can only mean two things:

That the US justice system is as inept and dysfunctional as that of a banana republic – which is unlikely.

Or that the US political system from the presidents, over state attorneys down to the common prison guard is so thoroughly corrupted to the point of evil that it was possible to have Epstein assassinated.
Similar cases you have reported have been going on for almost a century now. And what was speculative has now become iron certainty: that blackmail, assassination, human trafficking, child abuse and pedophile-rings are an integral part of the true ruling elite of the USA. Likely that of Europe aswell. And of South America. And the destinction between the ruling elite and the mob it used and uses, is at best grey in nature. We are talking about people who can destroy entire nations, have hundreds of thousands of people massacred as a consequence and laugh about it, like Hillary Clinton did.

Yet the uncomfortable, undeniable certainty of this reality does still come somewhat as a shock to me.

What was so special about the Epstein case was that it happened under the watchful and anticipating eye of the public. The assasination, as described earlier, was a show of force and smug mocking of the audience by the ruling elite. It almost felt like a bait to violent retaliation. Like the true establishment had thrown down the gauntlet.

My pessimism leads me to believe that the Epstein assassination and implication with Mossad and Ehud Barak as well as Benjamin Netanyahu will be memory-holed and drown in the swamp of total apathy that rules post-historic, rootless, post-modern western man. But it is hard to believe the potentially most esxplosive case in post-WW2 US history could just end like a forgotten footnote.

MLK , says: August 11, 2019 at 4:48 pm GMT
@MLK I would import everyone half-intelligent to ignore Giraldi's distraction arm-waving about the Jews. Apply some common sense.

Whomever was powerful enough to resuscitate the "Epstein saga," surely could have quietly suicided him in the many years before he was back in federal custody. Ergo, that wasn't the plan.

According to the (sketchy) official story, Epstein recklessly flew back to Teterboro Airport right when his malefactions were again in the spotlight and the subject of litigation. Apparently all of his powerful protectors low these many years must have all been on summer vacation, including Mossad to hear Giraldi tell it.

What makes a whole lot more sense is that he was, in a word, renditioned. We even got the post-arrest photo of him looking much like Saddam (purportedly) pulled from his hiding hole by some garden-variety US soldiers.

... ... ..

Sean , says: August 11, 2019 at 4:48 pm GMT
@TKK Old school Federal Supermax guard explains:-

'Jeffrey Epstein who is responsible for his death? The conspiracy to blame someone.'

https://www.youtube.com/embed/bk2uqSpn7VU?feature=oembed&rel=0&autoplay=1

Jacques Sheete , says: August 11, 2019 at 4:49 pm GMT
@Ronald Thomas West Very interesting info there.

PS: None of any of this matters becasue they're all "philanthropists."

Sean , says: August 11, 2019 at 5:04 pm GMT
@TKK Except she was not 15, but two years older, and was with him until 19, which is a difficult mistake to make honestly. And once your testimony is proven to be unreliable in one detail about judge must tell the jury all your evidence is tainted. She also had a druggie boyfriend at the time. And she was a lot tighter with her family and deceived them a lot more than anyone would understand from her account. She lied to her father and was taking money for sex as a 19 year old. Her character not her consent would be the issue. The jury would be led to understand that they were making her a millionaire by convicting Epstein. Epstein's acquittal would not have been unprecedented, Michael Jackson's acquittal was probabally due to just such a defence strategy. Both had a lot of money, and the criminal justice system is not designed to cope with super rich defendants.
niteranger , says: August 11, 2019 at 5:58 pm GMT
@Grizaby Evidently you can't read. It said Clinton and the rest of his clients. Trump is owned by Israel but that doesn't mean he was part of Epstein's inner circle like the Clintons were. You have no clue to what you are talking about. If Trump was part of it he will be had. Look at the bull they tried to run by the American people with Mueller investigation.

Epstein was a major player in the espionage industry which consisted of Israel running the system with likes of British Intelligence along with the CIA. This stuff is as old as warfare itself. Epstein survived because all these agencies and the Magic Jews with their money protected him. The US court system protected him as well as the FBI and Mueller. The Mueller investigation was just another smoke and mirror diversion for Israel and the CIA to use ISIS as a proxy army to expand Israel's borders while for two years the Jew Controlled Media ran 24 hours a day the Russians influenced our election. Unfortunately, some of us know that Jews, Soros and Adelson own both the Democrats and the Republicans and control our elections.

There is nothing partisan here. If you knew anything about Israel you would know that they have been "importing" girls from the Balkins and other places for their sex industry for years which has been covered up. Whenever there is human trafficking, porn, sex slavery, organ harvesting, and espionage using such domains you will find Israel. For some reason Giraldi seems ignorant of such things.

annamaria , says: August 11, 2019 at 6:03 pm GMT
@Sean Oh, poor victimized Jeff and these bad-bad girls. Sean comes to rescue!
Well, if Sean is so mindful about the age of the girls, here is a morsel of information to provide food for Sean's thoughts: "Jeffrey Epstein searched for two EIGHT-YEAR-OLD girls to sexually abuse after enlisting the help of fixer pal, court docs suggest" https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9622107/jeffrey-epstein-eight-year-old-girls-sexually-abuse/

Messages left for the billionaire and convicted paedophile [Jeffrey Epstein] by friend Jean-Luc Brunel, himself the subject of abuse allegations, describe a female "2 x 8 years old" willing to give "Russian lessons".

Rurik , says: August 11, 2019 at 6:12 pm GMT
@Sean

Both had a lot of money, and the criminal justice system is not designed to cope with super rich defendants.

with ties to Ehud Barak (of 9/11 fame).

US Attorney Acosta was told to "back off, that Epstein was above his pay grade." "I was told Epstein 'belonged to intelligence'.

Which begs the question.. who told him that?

We can always discover where the rot meets the road by the thunderous silence when it comes to asking certain questions.

Who provided the script to Fox News and the BBC for the story of building seven's collapse?

Nobody has any interest in knowing -- this is where the rot meets the road.

Who told Acosta to lay off of Epstein? -- this is where the rot meets the road.

It's always the crickets who inform us, more than a thousand "journalists" and "reporters" who know where the rot meets the road, and when to stop asking questions.

For instance, how did Epstein hang himself?

By what means was he able to do this? How was he found?

The only thing they're telling us is that " Epstein was found unresponsive in his cell.."

And that he had been taken off suicide watch.

And so the rest of us, by dint of the avalanche of unasked questions, are supposed to have trust in the authorities to get to the bottom of it. If we're told he hanged himself, it's not up to us, and certainly not the job of 'journalists or reporters' to worry about things like – how, exactly did he hang himself?

How was he found? I guess asking such questions would be 'beyond the Pale'.

He was found 'unresponsive in his cell. Oh, Ok. Wasn't he on suicide watch? No, he had been taken off suicide watch. Oh, what about cameras? 'The cameras malfunctioned during his 'suicide'.

Ok, we have no more questions. We're satisfied that the FBI is going to "investigate".

Reminds me of the Las Vegas shooting, and how they couldn't discover a motive. The length and breath of our vaunted FBI and all that NSA surveillance that knows when you're going to fart before even you do, but they can't discover a motive for Las Vegas.

Michael Hastings was simply driving too fast. Case closed.

Jorg Haider was simply driving too fast.

Seth Rich died in a 'robbery' (where his wallet and expensive watch were not taken).

Gary Webb committed suicide by shooting himself in the head – twice.

If you're a professional whornalist, you're satisfied with these conclusions.

Bardon Kaldian , says: August 11, 2019 at 6:17 pm GMT
@annamaria Typical female ad hominem fantasy projection.

For what is worth- there is no reliable Mossad connection (not that they are "good/evil guys" or anything similar), but simply no proof for any interference on their side. It would be interesting to see if they were- for instance, they certainly are behind assassination of a Palestinian rocket scientist somewhere in the east (Indonesia? Malaysia?) a few months ago. But with Epstein- there is no serious case for their involvement.

Sean , says: August 11, 2019 at 6:19 pm GMT
@Bardon Kaldian Epstein was charged and had sexual contact with under age girls who could be more easily numbered than named. Not a single one of the allegedly existent customers of Epstein were charged. In fact the accusation by the girls is he gave them to his friends and even random visitors to his mansion. The prosecutors charged Epstein with trafficking because that would get him life, NOT because he was actually guilty of that by being any kind of pimp. Don't take everything so literally.
Alden , says: August 11, 2019 at 6:21 pm GMT
@Bardon Kaldian I know all about black street pimps and the teen girls they torture and murder.

You're just trying to obfuscate the issue which is

Procuring is against the law and Epstein was a procurer.

Like many, you probably have the fantasy of pampered happy escort girls making a lot of money and living happily ever after don't you?

A lot of the escort girls get only cash tips from the customers. Some of the agencies keep all the fees paid for with credit cards. Almost all the escort agencies cheat the girls when it's time to pay them. The credit card companies haven't paid the escort agency yet. The 60 40 split is suddenly 70 for the agency 30 for the girls.

Suddenly the agency closes phones canceled and the girls who are owed a months pay are out of luck as the pimps go off with all the money.

Some agencies don't really screen clients or provide body guards and the girls get beaten and robbed . Many of the drivers and appointment makers sell drugs to the escort girls.

Hard to figure exactly your point. It appears you're claiming Epstein treated his prostitutes better than the blacks do. True

But his blackmail financial fraud money laundering his financial services firm that did no trading buying selling and investing are far worse crimes than running an escort service.

renfro , says: August 11, 2019 at 6:47 pm GMT
@Alden

Even worse are the retard idiots who keep claiming that Epstein and his customers were pedophiles.
Sex with 13 to 17 year olds for money or lust is not pedophilia.
Sex with children 12 and under is pedophilia

Wrong. Pedophiles seek sex with underage children whether 'paid for' or 'not'.
'Underage' varies by state statutes. 15 is the usual age.
Being sexually attracted to a 13 year old prostitute as opposed to 18 year old prostitute is pedophilia.

Pedophilia is classified as a mental disease .and its not curable. It is treated in most cases with drugs that erase the sex drive. If a pedophile stops taking the drug he will resume preying on children.

So says my sister in law who is a psychiatrist on staff with a major hospital who has seen a few although she treats mainly children, among whom have been a few victims of pedophiles..
Pedophiles, like mentally deranged serial killers do know 'right from wrong' ,that is why they hide it .they should be treated criminally the same way other offenders are.

Bardon Kaldian , says: August 11, 2019 at 7:18 pm GMT
@Sean

In fact the accusation by the girls is he gave them to his friends and even random visitors to his mansion.

Weird. Who they were, his zombie personal property so he could "give them"? No personal will on their side?

As I see it, they were girls, both above & below 18, who were seduced by lavish life-style & were not bound by any personal strict morality, family ties or anything similar. Are we to believe that 15 or 16 years old girls were so clueless about life they would not even think they live, eat, sleep in a grown man's mansions without even a hint of giving, eh, something "in exchange"?

Are we to believe that those 15, 16, 17..years old girls were not human females, with female sexual desires, ideas, projections & plans? That these girls did not have sexual feelings or were totally clueless about them, like, say, about quantum algebra? That there was not a suspicion on their side that something of a sexual nature was bound to happen, sooner or later?

I mean . this world is full of idiots.

[Aug 12, 2019] New York Mayor Bill de Blasio has called Epstein's death "way too convenient."

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... "How many other millionaires and billionaires were part of the illegal activities that he was engaged in?" he asked. ..."
Aug 12, 2019 | www.rt.com

"How many other millionaires and billionaires were part of the illegal activities that he was engaged in?" he asked. Even the BBC website has as its heading of a news story today "Jeffrey Epstein: Questions raised over financier's death."

[Aug 12, 2019] Robert Maxwells estate turned out to be nothing. It all disappeared. In fact her brothers and their families were on welfare for a while.

Aug 12, 2019 | www.unz.com

Alden , says: August 11, 2019 at 4:26 pm GMT

@animalogic Robert Maxwells estate turned out to be nothing. It all disappeared. In fact her brothers and their families were on welfare for a while.

So Ghislaine Maxwell needed to make a living or find a man to support her. Instead of a normal job and normal man she found Epstein and became a pimp.

She grew up an heiress and then it all disappeared.

Iris , says: August 11, 2019 at 4:28 pm GMT
@Corvinus Robert Maxwell's role as "Israel's Super-Spy" was comprehensively and convincingly documented by Gordon Thomas.

Maxwell's execution was carried out by Mossad because, as his business empire was crumbling, he made the mistake to blackmail them for £400 millions.

Epstein's obvious link to Mossad is the background of Ghislaine Maxwell, as well as her central involvement in organising and operating the blackmail paedophile ring.

Epstein's case was highly publicised in Europe, for many years, because of his association with the UK's Duke of York; there never were any mention of President Trump.

I disagree re President Trump being blackmailed by Epstein: if that would have been the case, the NeoCons wouldn't have needed to fabricate the ludicrous RussiaGate cock-and-bull story.

Exile , says: August 11, 2019 at 4:39 pm GMT
While I have no problem believing that Mossad was Epstein's primary agency, I disagree with Mr. Giraldi that CIA would have no reason to blackmail prominent Americans. Epstein's ties with Maxwell certainly suggest a parallel career, but let's not overlook the obvious fact that the CIA itself has long been a rogue agency ...

[Aug 12, 2019] Ghislaine may have known or suspected the truth about her father death

Aug 12, 2019 | www.unz.com

Skeptikal , says: August 11, 2019 at 7:04 pm GMT

@YetAnotherAnon Just read in a review of a Maxwell bio that it is thought that Maxwell thought he was headed for a pickup of some cash he needed to cure his financial woes (that is the speculation of the bio's authors, Gordon Thomas and someone else). Instead some Israeli ninjas boarded his vessel, gave him a shot of something hehind the ear that took him out, and dumped him overboard. This story, if true -- even if not true -- lends a certain piquance to the grand guignol of the state funeral. Ghislaine may have known or suspected the truth. She hit the grits for NY -- that is, left Israel. If I understand the story correctly. In one sense this all sounds kind of weirdly sad, because that girl is obviously effed up bad from the get-go, and one can't help wondering on what terms Zion owns her.

[Aug 12, 2019] From the point of view of The Establishment, Epstein suiside is far from convenient. It will redound to the advantage of many individuals but in the long run it will contribute to an increase in popular distrust of the entire system.

Notable quotes:
"... And at no point will there be any of the damage limitation that a trial, requiring and weighing evidence, would have put on the mushrooming of charges, rumours and speculations which has been taking and will continue to take place. ..."
"... In realistic terms the damage to the system of a few outliers, like Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew or Dershowitz being driven, red faced from public life, would be minimal. In fact it could easily be spun as am indication that the system worked and that, in the end, an obscure former masseur could be vindicated against Princes and ex-Presidents. ..."
Aug 12, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

bevin , Aug 12 2019 1:54 utc | 41

The Epstein case is very simple: had a trial taken place-and proper trials are increasingly rare in the USA, as the record of his Florida 'trial' shows- it had the potential of being extremely embarrassing to a number of prominent and powerful people.

On the other hand, now that he is dead, there can be no limit to the enormous number of allegations that can be made against him and them.

From the point of view of The Establishment, this death is far from convenient. It will redound to the advantage of many individuals but in the long run it will contribute to an increase in popular distrust of the entire system. And at no point will there be any of the damage limitation that a trial, requiring and weighing evidence, would have put on the mushrooming of charges, rumours and speculations which has been taking and will continue to take place.

In realistic terms the damage to the system of a few outliers, like Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew or Dershowitz being driven, red faced from public life, would be minimal. In fact it could easily be spun as am indication that the system worked and that, in the end, an obscure former masseur could be vindicated against Princes and ex-Presidents.

The danger is that this sordid but very routine 'scandal' will blot out real and important matters that require public debate. How many US Presidents and English princes have not been involved in the sort of things said to have been facilitated by Epstein? So far as Princes go, I can think of none. And many of them, including future Kings, have done a lot worse things than fuck teenage girls, though that has been routine for all who didn't prefer boys.

It would be interesting to learn what lessons it is thought this affair should teach us? Should the age of consent laws be revised to ban sexual relations between rich and poor? Or to legislate against sexual partnerships involving an age differential of more than, say, ten years?

Or should class society and the capitalist system, which commodifies everything and puts the poor majority in positions in which they are vulnerable to prostitution, be abolished? This would involve something a little more substantial than a lynch mob led by unprincipled, loudmouth demagogues feeding off the obsessions and frustrations of the sexually disfranchised.

These last we have had in America since the Pilgrim Fathers stumbled ashore, clutching their Old Testaments angrily and looking for others to blame. And be punished.

As to the nonsense that Epstein has been spirited away, is not really dead and will, like Merlin, one day return...that way madness lies.

[Aug 12, 2019] Russiagate is Dead, but for the Political Establishment, it is Still the New 42 by Craig Murray

"Mueller's Inquiry was never a serious search for truth is that at no stage was any independent forensic independence taken from the DNC's servers, instead the word of the DNC's own security consultants was simply accepted as true. Finally no progress has been made – or is intended to be made – on the question of who killed Seth Rich, while the pretend police investigation has "lost" his laptop. "
See also Robert Muller: Establishment Sweethard helped Bush to see the Iraqq war https://youtu.be/mK5T_rZmVyg
Notable quotes:
"... Like the Wolfowitz explanation of the Iraq War, Russiagate is the idea around which varied interests can be organized. Cold Warriors like to hate on Russia. It justifies arms spending and their own importance. Clintonistas need an excuse to distract from her being a loser. The DNC needs an excuse for manipulating the candidate selection in favor of donor interests. "Moderates" need a distraction from their ongoing refusal to address the interests of voters. ..."
Aug 12, 2019 | consortiumnews.com
... ... ...

So, there we have it. Russiagate as a theory is as completely exploded as the appalling Guardian front page lie published by Kath Viner and Luke Harding fabricating the "secret meetings" between Paul Manafort and Julian Assange in the Ecuadorean Embassy. But the political class and the mainstream media, both in the service of billionaires, have moved on to a stage where truth is irrelevant, and I do not doubt that Russiagate stories will thus persist. They are so useful for the finances of the armaments and security industries, and in keeping the population in fear and jingoist politicians in power.

Craig Murray is an author, broadcaster and human rights activist. He was British ambassador to Uzbekistan from August 2002 to October 2004 and rector of the University of Dundee from 2007 to 2010.


michael , August 12, 2019 at 19:53

So far there is as much evidence presented that Martians interfered in the 2016 Election as RUSSIANS!!!
Just a much needed excuse to blow on the dying embers of the Cold War and get the nuclear weapons ready.
I'm still waiting for Robert Mueller to be tried for lying to Congress (when asked who hired him, instead of saying "I have no idea", he said "Bush!" It is a matter of public record that Reagan hired him, a blatant lie! Is Michael Flynn out of jail yet?)

Drew Hunkins , August 12, 2019 at 14:49

" and I do not doubt that Russiagate stories will thus persist. They are so useful for the finances of the armaments and security industries, and in keeping the population in fear and jingoist politicians in power "

They are also extremely useful as a scapegoat for the corporate warmongering DNC to camouflage the genuine reasons they lost to Trump of all people.

Mark Thomason , August 12, 2019 at 10:34

Like the Wolfowitz explanation of the Iraq War, Russiagate is the idea around which varied interests can be organized. Cold Warriors like to hate on Russia. It justifies arms spending and their own importance. Clintonistas need an excuse to distract from her being a loser. The DNC needs an excuse for manipulating the candidate selection in favor of donor interests. "Moderates" need a distraction from their ongoing refusal to address the interests of voters.

jessika , August 12, 2019 at 09:38

"Those whom the gods would destroy they first drive mad".

Larry Mofield , August 12, 2019 at 08:41

If Russia actually wanted to help someone win I think it would be Hilary because Trump is a plain shooter from the hip and takes nothing off of nobody.
If anything Sanders should had sued the DNC and Hilary for rigging the DNC
Go figure why he has kept his mouth shut.

Bif Webster , August 12, 2019 at 11:13

Putin preferred Obama to his running mates as well. But you won't ever hear that on the corporate "news" media.

Others sued on behalf of Bernie. That case died in south Florida, near Wasserman-Schultz's district yeah, and the excuse was, "The DNC is a 'private organization" and do what they like, apparently. However, the "judge" did not find it odd that a private entity can run a public election? And how there's an obvious conflict of interest involved?

Bernie kept his mouth shut because he's inside the Belly of the Beast.

Martin , August 12, 2019 at 11:54

i think there was something of a lawsuit, but the judge decided that the rigging was an inside thing to which no external laws applied. if you got a non-profit or a company and there's no internal rules that forbid the rigging of votes, rigging is not illegal. the superdelegates still exist.

Seer , August 12, 2019 at 12:04

He kept his mouth shut because advancing "My Revolution" was more important. And, because he's NOT a Democrat: he's only "allowed" to run as one: he is therefore a little more constrained. Had he lashed out he'd have NOT been allowed to run again as a Democrat -- bank on that!

Tulsi Gabbard, on the other hand, is a Democrat, in which case she really couldn't be kicked out: it was she who acted as Bernie's mouth on this matter.

Trump is a piece of crap. There's nothing straight about him at all. He's a con-man of the highest order. Other than give money to the rich he's done nothing: and "nothing," is probably the best that could have been hoped for given that he could have started some wars (he hasn't found one that he feels safe would not undermine his presidency, otherwise he'd be lighting it up). The reason the guy is so good at firing people is because he's so crappy about firing them.

Oh yeah, I have not cast a single vote for anyone I have mentioned here.

evelync , August 12, 2019 at 13:20

Interesting question, Larry Mofield!

Bernie's not a stupid guy and I believe (as does Cornel West and Noam Chomsky) he's dedicated to policies that serve working people and sustainability.(as I see it – reversing the NeoLiberal agenda in order to restore a level playing field for working people and also to shift to a democratic, non imperial foreign policy.)

So why didn't he, let's call him "David", not aim his slingshot at the DNC, let's call it "Goliath"?

Probably because a single stone in a slingshot was hopeless. He was up against a massive corrupt network of hangers on, IMO, who rabidly shouted down the person who dared to question Clinton's policies.

For an even more recent example of a delusional grandiose, imperial mind set, let's take the 200+ people affiliated with the JFK School of Government at Harvard. The ones who accepted the School's shameful withdrawal of Chelsea Manning's honorary fellowship because Pompeo and Morrell attacked it with Cold War rhetoric. Manning's crime? Telling people the truth about horrific wrongdoing she witnessed in Iraq. When I emailed 200 people at the JFK School a shame-on-you letter I heard back from only one who chastised (threatened) me for not understanding "National Security" .say what????) Others chimed in to agree with her. (I shared that email with Robert Parry at the time and he emailed back that he didn't blame me for being outraged. He was such a wonderful person.)

So Bernie had the whole MSNBC related propaganda machine at his throat.
– think Mimi Rocah's recent "he makes my skin crawl" comment, knowing surely, that her words would be applauded over there.
and think all the people who have accepted since 2016 that the Russians cost Hillary Clinton the election in denial over the truth – a flawed candidate who seemed to consider her constituency the big banks and the polluters and the war machine.

I know lifelong conservative Republicans who liked Bernie in 2016 and like him now because they find him truthful but didn't trust Clinton and some voted for Trump in order to beat her.

This country is filled with a patronage network of well off established people including Democrats who believe everything's fine as it is and are willing to shut their eyes to what's not working – the financial crisis of the working class, the racism underlying the for profit prison system and immigration system, the horrific endless regime change wars and the massive deregulation of banks on Bill Clinton's watch and much more, including the Climate Crisis.

It's taken almost 3 years to discredit what apparently was a faux "excuse" why Hillary Clinton lost. Too many voters in key states didn't trust her to serve their interests because she clearly was an apparatchik for the MICIMATT.

Enough of Trump's voters were willing to gamble on this "unknown" character who piggy backed off what Bernie was saying at the time – too bad he was lying ..

rosemerry , August 12, 2019 at 15:39

The whole suggestion has ignored any words and actions of Pres. Putin, who is careful to keep to the truth. He often stated that he would accept whoever the US population chose (ie did not even want to lean towards the one claiming to desire better relations, let alone interfere) because the difference between US administrations was small and policies unlikely to change in 2016. Because the US constantly causes "régime change" does not mean that Russia does. The quick decision to "blame Russia" immediately after Trump's win, activated by Obama expelling diplomats and stealing their US property, set the ball rolling and it has not stopped.

phillip sawicki , August 12, 2019 at 08:37

T he AP and no doubt other media are setting the stage for claiming that if Trump is reelected in 2020, the Russians again were responsible. As HItler learned, repeat a lie often enough and it will assume the appearance of truth. It's not surprising that the Democrats led by Hillary are behind this maneuver. The Dems have been blaming Russia ever since Truman did so in 1945.

Sally Snyder , August 12, 2019 at 08:05

As shown in this article, key Western countries including the United States have put in place a mechanism that is supposed to protect us from election meddling:

https://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2019/07/the-g7-rapid-response-mechanism.html

Given the anti-Russia bias that took root and has become pervasive in the West since 2014 and, in particular, since the Hillary Clinton loss in 2016 which is blamed on Russian-sourced disinformation, it is interesting to see that the G7 has been driven to take extreme moves to battle what they see as an "evil Russia".

jdd , August 12, 2019 at 07:05

Devastating. A cogent and insightful analysis of Judge Koeltl's decision. Thank you Ambassador Murray.

Michaelevan Hammond , August 12, 2019 at 02:16

What's hilarious is that Binney was able to discern that the download was later split in two and then transmitted state side. Think of when you download a movie or a file .. it doesn't come in 2 parts, you either download the whole thing or it is an error/fail. Binney is able to show that the whole thing is one download at 49mbps impossible speed for transatlantic transmission .he absolute fastest you can achieve over the cable is 29mbps ..plus there are 6-12 NSA monitoring junctions added to the cable to capture such things and not one had any Russians attempting to "hack"(2001 term). It was all just deflection for Hillary and she may we'll have selfishly killed the Dems party.

Realist , August 12, 2019 at 00:37

Russiagate is not "dead." It has more lives than a cat bitten by a vampire. It is permanently undead. The antithesis of a dead parrot.

Check out some of its latest incarnations:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-11/moscow-mitch-secret-russian-subs-and-russophobia-derangement

How many times does Rachel Maddow have to tell you? Anyone who did not vote for Hillary Clinton and refuses to back her never-ending, constantly metamorphosing coup against Trump has got to be a Putin agent even Mitch McConnell. Check back tomorrow for the latest Maddowsplaining on this and other bad crazyness.

Seer , August 12, 2019 at 12:07

I agree. The FACT that the US has been sanctioning Russia for the better part of 100 years pretty much tells it all. It's about the West's ruling elite keeping Their game going: but, nothing lasts forever, and this game is about to run out on them (the perpetual growth model, which has given them their power, is ending).

Realist , August 12, 2019 at 00:18

Unless he was being sarcastic, MSNBC's Joe Scarborough tweeted that the Russians were probably behind Jeff Epstein's "suiciding" in the high security NYC federal lockup!

Anyone who truly believes that Epstein actually took his own life probably does still have a severe case of Putin Derangement Syndrome, aka Russophrenia, Russiagate-itis, -osis or whatever ya wanna call it. Their minds cannot co-exist within both the Deep State Matrix and objective reality at the same time. Blaming all evil in the world on Russia gives them license to act outside conventional morality with impunity.

Mark Stanley , August 12, 2019 at 11:32

Yes, they are endeavoring to tip-toe around this one. If Epstein had started squealing, the excrement would really have hit the fan. After his purported suicide, the smokescreen "conspiracy" word popped up immediately in every mainstream mention of Epstein.
If the populace found out about the deranged sexual practices of too many of the world's elites it would certainly upset the apple cart–to use an American expression.

Seer , August 12, 2019 at 15:51

This IS VERY DEEP! First three parts of this most excellent four part series is available, starting with this one (Mint Press also needs supporting).

https://www.mintpressnews.com/shocking-origins-jeffrey-epstein-blackmail-roy-cohn/260621/

After reading this I now understand why Trump won't release his tax returns.

Realist , August 12, 2019 at 18:12

Seer,

Probably, because like Romney, he didn't pay any.

Dershowitz's client Leonna Helmsley explained the principle decades ago: "Only the little people pay taxes." Probably as truthful a description of the American system as you will ever hear. Sadly, it went down the memory hole because the media will never mention it again. Investigative reporters like David Cay Johnston have to write individually researched books on the subject and hope that the swamp creatures don't seek retribution against him some dark night.

The most the public is ever going to get in this world is perhaps a brief glimmer of the truth through the hard work and suffering of individuals like Assange, Manning and a few other brave altruistic souls, but never justice. The system is set up to sacrifice the lives of millions for the benefit of dozens.

[Aug 12, 2019] Dozen FBI agents raid Jeffrey Epsteins Pedophile Island.html

Aug 12, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

Mina , Aug 12 2019 20:12 utc | 130

Good news
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7349729/Dozen-FBI-agents-raid-Jeffrey-Epsteins-Pedophile-Island.html
Hope they make it to the governor as well.

[Aug 12, 2019] Names are coming out.

Aug 12, 2019 | www.unz.com

annamaria says: August 12, 2019 at 1:09 am GMT 200 Words @Anonymous https://empireexposed.blogspot.com/2018/02/chapter-14-jeffrey-epstein-scandal.html

Despite strong evidence that he too participated in Epstein sex crimes, Alan Dershowitz was allowed to lead the best legal dream team Mossad blackmail money could buy. Despite all the proven facts surrounding this case, the Dershowitz dream team successfully "convinced" the US Attorney for the Southern District of Florida to neither charge Epstein nor any of his pimp co-conspirators with sex trafficking underage girls across state lines, and of course nor dare prosecute any of the other frequent flying VIP child molester

The pit-bullish Dershowitz gang included Kenneth Starr, chief investigator from the Clinton-Lewinsky soap opera who never fails to evoke the religious high moral ground yet in the next breath claims he's more than happy to have gotten a pedophile-trafficker off.

Other hotshot aces in the hole were Florida trial lawyer Roy Black and star attorney Gerald Lefcourt among others. Dershowitz and Lefcourt's letter to Acosta's office prior to their successful plea bargain emphasized Epstein's super close ties to Bill and Hillary Clinton, touting how the billionaire pedophile "co-founded" the infamous Clinton Foundation, accused by philanthropy law expert Charles Ortel of being "the largest unprosecuted fraud in history." Speaking of which, a whistleblower at a Swiss bank has revealed that Jeffrey Epstein used his Swiss bank account to send Bill Clinton $3.5 million shortly after his pedophilia probe began in 2005.

Names are coming out.

[Aug 12, 2019] There is the possibility that Epstein functioned as a pass to the highest echelons

The philandering and pedophilia of elites and politicians clearly gave intelligence againces significant leverage over many movers and shakers within Western establishments
Aug 11, 2019 | www.unz.com

Goy , says: August 10, 2019 at 10:44 pm GMT

@Haxo Angmark Why would anyone have to bring down Trump? The man is fully compromised, a puppet and the FBI has already likely 15 years of material on him as revealed in Kushner, Inc.

There is the possibility that Epstein functioned as a pass to the highest echelons: you would compromise yourself by having intercourse with minors, let Epstein record it, hand it over to Mossad and possibly other agencies he worked with. To show that you can be trusted. Not unlike Unz himself suggested and exemplified by McCain.

But that is not necessary for Trump. Netanyahu gets everything he wants. And the whole Trump campaign was a distraction, bankrolled by Sheldon Adelson and managed by a former AIPAC guy and Christian Zionist and personal friend of Adelson Steve Bannon no less. Anyone who still believes Trump is not part of the deepest filth of "the swamp" is delusional and ignores way too many facts.

There is no left, no right. There is no democracy. There is an unelected oligarchy and its political puppets. Long since bought and paid for before you and I were even born

Goy , says: August 11, 2019 at 1:29 am GMT

@peterAUS Well, the particularity with Epstein is: Many people did and are paying attention. Millions. And the elite knows that we know. As you said it yourself: this was not just a cover-up. It was a demonstration of power directed at us.

And they are laughing at us; as they are getting away; as they are taking every bit of freedom and sovereignty away which the patriot act hadn’t already devoured, through bipartisan decision of the system which should (theoretically) serve the people.

The Dystopia is also already here: the cold-blooded apathy with which the ruling class in Britain treated victims as in Rotherham, the Savile case and now Epstein exposing their true characters, and those are also the leaders and elites who lecture us on morality: Ghislaine Maxwell -- save nature! Clinton Foundation, Mother Merkel… It’s disgusting.

And so many unthinkable theories which were declared “conspiracy theories” about WW2, the aftermath and our current reality turn out to be true.

But I agree: the internet allowed us to decode the illusion of the media Matrix and its artificial reality. And it is those possibilities which the ruling class wants to snuff out for good. So that the monopoly to manufacture consent, truth and reality goes back to them


Securitate , says: August 11, 2019 at 5:20 pm GMT

Systemic elite kompromat shielded with arbitrary acts spanning all levels of government. Now anybody who tells you this is a democracy, or an open society, or a free country, or any of that shit, is either a mental defective or a pedo CP star in Comey’s personal Playpen stash.

You can’t pretend we’re ever going to vote our way out of this. We’re deep in the forcible-overthrow zone. If you aspire to rights or rule of law lots of CIA vermin are going to have to be Ceaușescued.

Alden , says: August 11, 2019 at 5:25 pm GMT
@Bardon Kaldian Epstein was a pimp. The girls were prostitutes
Colin Wright , says: • Website August 11, 2019 at 6:59 pm GMT
@Bardon Kaldian ‘…All pimps are criminals. But not all criminals are the same.’

Indeed. Some grow up in circumstances at least as dreadful as those of their victims, and while they indeed need to be locked up, are to be pitied as well.

Others have been given perfectly decent lives, and are even affluent — and yet still commit acts of depravity and cruelty.

These I have no sympathy for at all. Who is worse: the person who has never known a decent life, or the person who has been offered it, but prefers moral depravity?

Jeffrey Epstein enjoyed chewing up unfortunate children and spitting them out like sunflower husks when he was done. There was nothing keeping him from being a reasonably decent, moral man.

annamaria , says: August 12, 2019 at 1:30 am GMT
@Bardon Kaldian Could you just show some decency and stop fantasizing about “female sexuality?”

This is a story of Mossad’s blackmailing operation and the abuse of underage girls.
If you have an itch for discussing “female desires” and such, look for the appropriate blogs. This forum is not an appropriate venue for you: https://empireexposed.blogspot.com/2018/02/chapter-14-jeffrey-epstein-scandal.html

During the ensuing decade since Epstein’s conviction, the seedy truth has slowly trickled out, exposing the dark, twisted, perverse sex slave trafficking operation that Epstein and his bevy of co-conspirators recruited child victims as sex slaves from poor neighborhoods in Florida, New York, South America, Europe and Russia, including three 12-year old girls from France as a birthday gift. Incredibly, his procuring pimp co-conspirators and scores of powerful pedo patrons were all granted immunity…

[Aug 11, 2019] The likelihood of Epstein committing suicide reminds me of two other "suicide" stories

Notable quotes:
"... A black man's body is found wrapped in chains at the bottom of the Detroit River. The police were saying it was an accidental death caused by him stealing more chains than he could swim with. ..."
Aug 11, 2019 | www.unz.com

Curmudgeon , says: August 10, 2019 at 9:58 pm GMT

The likelihood of Epstein committing suicide reminds me of two other "suicide" stories.

... ... ...

Finally, there is a greatly modified joke from my long ago misspent youth. A black man's body is found wrapped in chains at the bottom of the Detroit River. The police were saying it was an accidental death caused by him stealing more chains than he could swim with.

Looks like Jeffrey had too many chains.

[Aug 11, 2019] Deposition unsealed yesterday where the Epstein victim, Virginia Roberts Giuffre, exonerated Trump of any involvement

Aug 11, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

dan , Aug 10 2019 16:11 utc | 77

Deposition unsealed yesterday where the Epstein victim, Virginia Roberts Giuffre, exonerated Trump of any involvement (Pg. 25-26)
> Pic related
https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Giuffre-unseal.pdf

Numerous Democrats, including former New Mexico Governor & Obama admin official Bill Richardson, 16 current Democrat Congressmen identified as perpetrators by Epstein victims:

Wow...

[Aug 11, 2019] Was E>pstein Suicided?

Notable quotes:
"... I am just now reading David Martin's new book "The Assassination of James Forrestal", about a 1949 murder by the Zionists disguised as suicide. ..."
"... He can sit around with the Skripals and talk over old times. ..."
"... He probably became more of a liability and/or stepped on some toes higher up in the food chain. How many former Israeli prime ministers will attend his funeral? Ghislaine's lawyers will be happy, she was a victim of Epstein too. Poor child. ..."
"... Well said. Indeed, loss of trust in governments is key, and this event utterly destroys the little trust that remained. Other western governments have the same problem also. ..."
Aug 11, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

ADKC , Aug 10 2019 14:26 utc | 10

donkeytale @4

Reports are that he was 'found dead' at 7:30 am local time, he was supposedly on suicide watch, he was a tremendously valuable witness, he could trade his testimony for leniency, a lot of very important people were worried.

No one will believe that Epstein committed suicide voluntarily, I certainly don't.

lysias , Aug 10 2019 14:26 utc | 11

Not extraditing. I am just now reading David Martin's new book "The Assassination of James Forrestal", about a 1949 murder by the Zionists disguised as suicide.
Jackrabbit , Aug 10 2019 14:30 utc | 12
Dead men tell no donkeytales.
Deal , Aug 10 2019 14:31 utc | 13
Talk about being transparent. 'Suicide'!, do you like bridges?
Bemildred , Aug 10 2019 14:31 utc | 14
"Gee, who could have predicted this?"

He can sit around with the Skripals and talk over old times.

Symen Danziger , Aug 10 2019 14:35 utc | 15
He probably became more of a liability and/or stepped on some toes higher up in the food chain. How many former Israeli prime ministers will attend his funeral? Ghislaine's lawyers will be happy, she was a victim of Epstein too. Poor child.

Why would anyone watch House of Cards? The real life soap called American politics is way more fun and interesting.

Kevin Spacey walks free. Irony.

sejomoje , Aug 10 2019 14:37 utc | 16
Make no mistake, Ghislaine will never be extradited by TPTB, for they are still designating her a "Madame"; just a very naughty lady who was adept at pleasing her clients and her "partner". Not a spy, not a slave trader, just an independent and shrewd Mommy of sorts. " Lady Madame Ghislaine". A glamour girl to the end. And without a doubt she'll get the same state funeral as her father when her time comes. That is, if Israel is still a state when she kicks the bucket.
S , Aug 10 2019 14:39 utc | 17
Whew, the Clintons are safe now. That was a close call!
kooshy , Aug 10 2019 14:40 utc | 18
Jeffry Epstein suicided- makes it obvious, that the deep state mafia regime in control was feeling intense heat, some one(s) important in the deep state decided overt killing a prisoner in federal prison and trying to defuse the news and public' obvious disbelief in cause and method, is worth killing him and divert and defuse the mess. For sure the names that would have become public was going to destabilize the DC regime. In next few days before the news is buried, we will see how MSM will divert the narrative, away from the names it is trying to protect. For sure at one time he was "made" and one the "Goodfellas" .
kooshy , Aug 10 2019 14:40 utc | 18 Lysander , Aug 10 2019 14:40 utc | 19
The only way his 'suicide' can be considered an actual suicide is if his handlers had so much leverage over him that they could persuade that he (and any loved ones he might have) would all be much better off if he did it himself than if he forces them to do it for him.

That's a possibility I suppose. But the idea that he did just because he couldn't handle life anymore simply doesn't warrant any consideration at all.

nottheonly1 , Aug 10 2019 14:43 utc | 22
@ donkeytale | Aug 10 2019 14:12 utc | 4

I responded to Your last response to me on this thread:

The MoA Week In Review - OT 2019-45

It is the last entry on that thread. Just wanted to let You know.

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How convenient that Epstein is no longer in the perpetrator protection program. The witness protection program was obviously never considered, or applied. Someone wrote that the Epstein case proved that there are two justice systems in the US: one for the rich and one for the suckers. Although that is not quite correct, as the one for the suckers must be called Injustice System.

It also goes to show, that while people desperately attempt to change their 'elected officials', they have no whatsoever control over the 'unelected officials'. Those decide over the (In-)Justice system with impunity. How would the 'Supreme' Court look like if The People would elect its members? Citizen United would have never happened? But that it did - outside of any say of the population it affected the most - is one reason why the truth about Epstein's Johns will never surface. How many of the supreme court justices visited 'penetrate-a-minor-girl island?

somebody , Aug 10 2019 14:45 utc | 23
He certainly had reason to. There would have been no hope for another deal after the publishing of the Giuffre files.

I guess someone helped him do it.

I suppose Ghislaine Maxwell will do a Lord Lucan .

For some reason there are names in the published files but there also are an anonymous "another prince," a "foreign president," a well-known prime minister"

donkeytale , Aug 10 2019 14:46 utc | 24
ADKC

Correct. No evidence has yet to emerge. Your beliefs notwithstanding.

If I were Epstein I would have a powerful motive to commit suicide. And some may have powerful motive to murder him. There is nothing yet to suggest her was murdered.

I cite this as an example of the disinformational slippery slope which in other contexts leads to the election of Trump, for instance, or the passage of Brexit.

IOW, suicide is not the only form of self-inflicted self-harm.

Daniel , Aug 10 2019 14:51 utc | 26
That probably means he was just a really rich pervert whose luck ran out rather than a Mossad or CIA asset tasked with collecting kompromat on influential people. A pampered twit like Epstein, used to a life of luxury and leisure, in jail on a sex charge would be eaten alive and quite possibly killed. I speculated after he was arrested that he would try to kill himself if he faced a long stretch in jail and it looks like that's what happened. Of course plenty of people will claim his suicide was faked etc. but unless they have credible evidence to back that up I will go with 'Occam's razor' on this.
Perimetr , Aug 10 2019 15:13 utc | 36
We live in a national security state run by criminals. Expecting justice from the legal system is like expecting to elect a president who will drain the swamp. It is a democracy theme park, where the levers and handles are not attached to anything.
AnneR , Aug 10 2019 15:16 utc | 37
Epstein's death - assuming he hasn't been "spirited" away to somewhere welcoming and unwilling to extradite, ever, (I wonder which "country" that might be) - and its timing is awfully convenient.

And the fact that he was supposedly on suicide watch after his "apparent" attempt some days earlier gives one pause. Either the so-called suicide watch is really negligent and Epstein was given/allowed both the "space" and the means (surely the means would, under suicide watch, be rendered null?) or his death by *suicide* is questionable.

O , Aug 10 2019 15:16 utc | 38
Anyone know what happened to Epstein's cellmate. A former cop convicted of murder?
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-epstein-life-behind-bars-20190726-ujdvknsmz5a4rbcgzfms6cqti4-story.html
Tonymike , Aug 10 2019 15:20 utc | 39
We forget that there are still other (((predators))) on the loose to include Polanski, Woody Allen, and a list of others. I will not say that they are all jews because George Bush Sr, was a known pedophile and he died at a ripe old age of 94 (and some people believe in karma..yeah right). Of course he was also the head of the CIA and the Warren commission, so he could afford to do what he did and get away with it. Don't believe me, check into the Franklin Child Abuse scandal and this Washington Times article. http://www.voxfux.com/features/bush_child_sex_coverup/franklin.htm

Unless "We the People" take these predators down, they will continue to destroy children.

Kadath , Aug 10 2019 15:21 utc | 40
Since hollywood is so bankrupt for ideas i wonder if someone will do a citizen kane type story based on epistein, For those who dont know citizen kane was basically an unflattering biography about a thinly veiled william randolph hurst expry (Hurst did everything possible to try to kill the film when he heard about it). This might be the only way we get anything close to even an approximation of what the truth was behind Epistein
div> Can't help but think about Deborah Jeane Palfrey, known as the "D.C. Madam," was also suicided.

Posted by: O , Aug 10 2019 15:24 utc | 41

Can't help but think about Deborah Jeane Palfrey, known as the "D.C. Madam," was also suicided.

Posted by: O | Aug 10 2019 15:24 utc | 41

ADKC , Aug 10 2019 15:24 utc | 42
donkeytale @35

The Kennedy's were murdered! Perhaps John-John as well!

The building 7 was destroyed! There are reasons why it would suit a lot of people if building 7 was destroyed.

What you are doing is playing with American shame; that the people could not bring truth and closure to these events.

Epstein 'suicide' looks like it will also prevent justice and closure.

How can America move forward progressively without resolving such issues?

You are right that such events should lead to uprusings; they didn't, another source of shame.

Do you really think that the people will rise up and follow AOC for Medicare4All when they can't insist on justice and truth for the above issues.

It's not titillating, it's shaming!

Kadath , Aug 10 2019 15:25 utc | 43
I especially like how his suicide was staged on a Friday evening when people wont be paying that much attention. That has always been the best time for governments to release bad news
Anacharsis , Aug 10 2019 15:27 utc | 44
"'What is truth?' said jesting Pilate, and would not stay for an answer." --Francis Bacon
Ken , Aug 10 2019 15:30 utc | 45
Move along. Nothing to see here.
Bemildred , Aug 10 2019 15:33 utc | 49
I wonder if they will do an autopsy, or maybe he will get "cremated" right away? If the former, I'd say maybe he actually did kill himself, if the latter, definitely not. Of course autopsies don't have to be accurate either. "Who gets the remains?" is another good question. "Why the heck did he show up to get arrested like that?" is another one.
Mina , Aug 10 2019 15:36 utc | 52
Wow!! Those suckers at the BBC manage NOT to mention Maxwell or Prince Andrew (ok... they are mentioned in some of the links they give, but come one!!)
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49306032
the pessimist , Aug 10 2019 15:37 utc | 53
Epstein, never married, no acknowledeged children. Odd for someone who wanted to populate the world with his progeny... someone suggested that now his estate(s) canbe freely searched. We will see if this all goes away or if some pitbulls in Miami keep after others who have been implicated. When the DC Madam was murdered/committed suicide every lead went dark and her little black book disappeared as I recall...
O , Aug 10 2019 15:39 utc | 54
Where's Ghislane?

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 10 2019 15:32 utc | 47

Yes the Mossad handler for Epstein.

Curtis , Aug 10 2019 15:44 utc | 58
lysias 11
I read that book last month! The official story still stands but the truth is out there. And it was not surprising to see that any evidence contrary to the official story of a paranoid, crazy man committing suicide didn't go anywhere.

I expect the Epstein story and its details to fade as well because many in power want it to. It's been interesting to read of the ties between Bill Browder, Robert Maxwell, and Jeffrey Epstein. Very shady dealings with so much submerged.

donkeytale , Aug 10 2019 15:53 utc | 62

O @ 51-

does this require elaboration? I read your linked Daily News article. I have spent some time behind bars myself (although not for sex crimes I hasten to add) and while not in possession of as lavish lifestyle as Epstein I would probably have a difficult time tolerating much of the rest of my life spent in similar conditions.

And I get that Club Fed is a much better living environment than pre-trial holding cells but only by degrees...and he was going to be held in pre-trial for a long time while the press and alt media had a field day with his story.

The Clinton conection of course leads to all sorts of rightwing created conspiracy theorues which Barflies too love to swarm all over like a fresh batch of dogshit on the sidewalk.

Clinton likes/liked having sex with young, possible underage girls?

Get out of town!

Curtis , Aug 10 2019 15:57 utc | 68
A BI article on Thursday had Leslie Wexner distancing himself from Epstein with the accusation that Epstein "missappropriated" $46 million.
https://www.businessinsider.com/victorias-secret-leslie-wexner-says-jeffrey-epstein-cheated-46-million-2019-8

They all say they cut ties with Epstein 12 years ago when the charges first surfaced. And yet, Epstein still got around and hobnobbed with the rich and shameless ever since then.

O , Aug 10 2019 15:58 utc | 70
Posted by: donkeytale | Aug 10 2019 15:53 utc | 62

Yes it requires elaboration because this was not Epstein's first courtroom rodeo. To believe the official narrative on this is incredibly naive.

sejomoje , Aug 10 2019 16:01 utc | 71
Epstein by all recent accounts wasn't actually "smart", just pathologically driven and well-funded. Someone gave him a leg-up very early on; just an undeniable fact if you study his bio. He would not have any incriminating evidence stored at his properties or in his personal effects, it would've been funneled to whoever he was working for long ago. Point is, he trusted his bosses. His brain, Ghislaine's brain; those are the only two places outside of Tel Aviv that the info was still stored.

If he had prepared a dead man's switch, he would have pulled it years ago.

nottheonly1 , Aug 10 2019 16:07 utc | 73
@ Scotch Bingeington | Aug 10 2019 15:44 utc | 57
I find the Pavlovian reactions shown here by quite a number of people very painful to witness.

Like there can be any doubt Epstein would have more than enough reason to kill himself. A sexual marauder, a high-roller, the world's no. 1 pimp, probably an "Intelligence" asset in a class of its own, a guy who knew none of the boundaries us mortals usually face – confined to a tiny cell and prison life. With the prospect of having your sad and perverse life dissected in court, of having to explain and justify your actions, of having to go through harrowing witnesses' statements. Yeah, what's not to look forward to in there?

Yours is by far the most Pavlovian reaction to this news. Or is it 'news'?

Let me get this straight for your to think about it. The guy has enough money to spend after he gets out of jail. How any years would he get in a Justice system that was lenient in the first place? Different folks now in the Justice Department? Let's say he would get five years, no make it ten. I seriously doubt he wouldn't get parole after some time for exemplary behavior. And he promised to not continue his crimes. Remember that it suffices to confess to the public and apologize for what you did - for the evangelical faction to forgive you. Hell, make that 'Christian faction'. He would sign a confidentiality agreement in exchange for his life to those who would take it otherwise. Lots of money to use in a corrupted society.

Jeffrey Epstein would know that the average attention span of Americans is as long as the trail of a shooting star in the night. Another mass shooting and "Who? Epstein? Never heard of him."

It is you, who fits the findings of Pavlov quite well. However, from personal experience at the Humane Society, I know that there is no dog that cannot be re-trained, or re-conditioned to be a friendly doggie.

Really?? , Aug 10 2019 16:08 utc | 75
@41

My first thought. In fact, I had this thought as soon as I heard of the first Epstein suicide "attempt." I am sure I am not alone. Just when we thought we were going to see whose names actually were in her little black book, she conveninetly disappears, and the little black book slides down the memory hole.

Remember it was Reagan who said: Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

Oh, yes, and Gary Webb supposedly also committed suicide. And a number of the JFK witnesses who planned to come forward some years/decades after his death---poof! Heart attack the day before the planned interrogation (see Douglass, JFK and the Unspeakable).

Anyone who believes this new (and richly predicted) suicide story is a fool. Gimme an effing break!
The guy was on "suicide watch"! That can only mean that the people in charge of this supposed watch were the ones who administered the tiny shot (leaves no trace in the skin) that brought about heart failure.

karlof1 , Aug 10 2019 16:11 utc | 78
How convenient, just after Florida opened its own investigation into the original plea arraignment that threatened to unseal Epstein's financial records. But just because Epstein's no more doesn't mean the investigation should end; others in the DoJ broke the law then, not Epstein. Plus, his operation was what's known as a "ring", a conspiracy, a racketeering operation involving numerous others, some known, some not. I wonder what his will says?
donkeytale , Aug 10 2019 16:19 utc | 81
nottheonly1

The flaw in your argument is that Epstein wasn't getting out this time and he knew it.

He may have been killed and he may have killed himself precisely because of what is to follow.

I believe like Karlof1 that the investigation should definitely continue because of what is to follow and also now should include whether or not Epstein was "suicided".

And if Clinton or Prince Andrew or wtf is found guilty of sex crimes then he should rot in jail too.

After all, Bill Cosby, white Amerikkka's favourite black father figure went to jail didn't he? Although granted he is black and he is also forgotten at this point in the ever rushing news cycle....but he is still behind bars, isn't he?

willie , Aug 10 2019 16:37 utc | 88 DontBelieveEitherPr. , Aug 10 2019 16:41 utc | 89
To those who think "suicide watch" is some magical way to prevent suicide, and that his death would imply some action by a third party to kill him, maybe i can shed some light on the procedure, as it is handled in Germany (And very likely at least inspired from US procedures):

1. The inmate does get a cell with a fellow inmate, so he is not alone, and is observed by that inmate too.
2. Additionally, to normal security measures, the inmate gets taken away all things with which he could harm himself
3. Wardens control the inmate visually in a pre determined interval of e.g. 15 minutes, 30 minutes, 60 minutes.
4. In special cases inmates are transferred into special cells with rubber walls and floors, like one would think in a mental hospital (Gummizelle is the German term).

Now, in consequence:
1. When the other inmate does not look, sleeps or simply does not give a shit, this has no effect
2. While belts, show laces and sharp things are removed, one can easily improvise a rope from a piece of bed linen etc. to hand themselves on the water fountain or classically on the window grille, jump from a double story bed head first breaking ones neck or bleeding themselves, slitting the wrist to bleed to death (something sharp can always be found or made, overdosing on drugs the inmate acquired from other inmates...

I myself have witnessed multiple people successfully kill themselves under suicide watch in the pretty short times i myself was an inmate in a maximum security prison. And i myself have been at times under suicide watch, and I know myself that if you want to do it, you got plenty of options.
After some days you know how the system works, and have multiples options if you choose so.
Plus, guards are always lazy, and cheat on the interval. E.g. checking only once an hour instead of every 15 minutes.
But even the 15 minutes is plenty of time.

So him being on suice watch and still killing himself IS NO PROOF OF NOTHING.
That said, i dont exclude something like this.

Maybe he had a conscience. Maybe he felt ashamed. Maybe not, and only had not the balls to face what he did.
Maybe some told him it would be better for him, or that there are actually people he loved and that he got threatened that those people would be hurt.
Who knows? Not we certainly.

IMHO it is TYPICALL for such people as him to commit suicide.
He may have some smarts concerning the rich and famous, but in a federal jail, he is FUCKED.
EVERYONE WILL TRY TO GET A PIECE OF HIS ASS AND MONEY!
JUST LIKE EVERY FUCKING PEDO IN EVERY JAIL ON EARTH!
And no solitary confinement (Already gone on suicide watch, where he is at least in a 2 man cell) can protect him.
Taking a shower, free time, sport, work, visiting waiting cell.. Countless times to get that mofo, and put a shank to his dick.

A pedo is already done in prison, but a prominent pedo???
He killed himself to not get assfucked till it bleeds, to not have to get abused like he abused.

He had no future, and he doing himself was realizing he played out.

ADKC , Aug 10 2019 16:43 utc | 91
donkeytale @50

As chance would have it, AOC appears to have a House of Representatives oversight role with regard to Epstein's 'suicide' and is loudly demanding answers; she sounds a lot more sceptical than you!

This is a good opportunity to show if she has substance. Let's see what she does!

Schmoe , Aug 10 2019 16:46 utc | 92
Epstein would have had this to weigh:
a) 1-2 years in his current settings; this did not sound like Club Fed.

b) Then a trail with 2 outcomes:

i) A decent chance of an acquittal. Consider Robert Durst and OJ. When was the last time a wealthy, good looking person was convicted?

I) A hung jury would have been a distinct possibility given societal taboo's against sexual abuse (not that that is a bad thing!).

ii) Conviction, with several years in Club Fed and I doubt if he would have been put into a situation where he was physically endangered.

I tend to weigh against suicide, but do understand donkeytale's comments.

Jackrabbit , Aug 10 2019 16:49 utc | 96
DontBelieveEitherPr. @89

Sorry, I don't buy it.

A Shocked World Reacts To News Of Epstein's Impossible 'Suicide' :

One self-proclaimed corrections officer said on Reddit that Epstein's suicide should never have been possible.
I'm a corrections officer. This should never have been possible. During the intake process due to the nature of his crimes and being famous he should have already been on special watch. Then after the first attempt he would have been in a special cell. He would be in what we call a "pickle suit" it's a green suit that you can't tear or tie to anything. His blankets would be the same material. He would only get hygiene products under supervision. Only thing allowed in his cell would be a book and court papers. Then we would be monitored more closely. This is a huge failing on the jail. I want a massive investigation on how this was able to happen.
/div> The NYT this morning is reporting that it is not known if Epstein was on a suicide watch. Clearly, he should have been after the recent incident in which he was found unconscious and with injury marks around his neck. I think it is not at all unlikely that he did commit suicide, but also that he was allowed or even aided in doing so.

Posted by: Rob , Aug 10 2019 16:52 utc | 99

The NYT this morning is reporting that it is not known if Epstein was on a suicide watch. Clearly, he should have been after the recent incident in which he was found unconscious and with injury marks around his neck. I think it is not at all unlikely that he did commit suicide, but also that he was allowed or even aided in doing so.

Posted by: Rob | Aug 10 2019 16:52 utc | 99

Curtis , Aug 10 2019 16:52 utc | 100
Looking into the Wexler-Epstein ties led to the Mega Group. (first time I've heard of it)
https://www.mintpressnews.com/mega-group-maxwells-mossad-spy-story-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/261172/
Hoarsewhisperer , Aug 10 2019 16:57 utc | 104
It's probably too early to draw the curtains on the Epstein nothing-burger. It's not at all clear to me that ANY of the under age women were pre-pubescent children. Bonking under age females with breasts and pubic hair is known as Statutory Rape in most Western countries; the assumption being that the bonkee is deemed to be too young to give Informed Consent to sex with an adult male. If there's no allegation or evidence of coercion by the bonker then it's not a hanging offense.

The mystery surrounding Epstein's rags to riches good fortune has not yet been fully explained, although if it's true that he had charisma then he was probably capable of seducing/ charming males as well as females.

IF he was running a honey-trap blackmail scam as a sole trader then he will fade from History surrounded by a blizzard of "???". If on the other hand he was a "useful idiot" running the scam on behalf, and for the benefit of, powerful people then one suspects that he will have left a "dead man's letter" so that he'd have the last laugh.

A dead man's letter is only as good as the entity one trusts to ensure that it's disseminated. WikiLeaks would be my top pick for a trustworthy publisher and The Swamp is moving Heaven and Earth to keep Assange incommunicado until he can be suicided.

Kadath , Aug 10 2019 17:01 utc | 106
Re: nottheonly1, donkeytale and KC

I think you are missing the fundamental issue regarding the circumstances of Epstein's death, it is no longer Epstein's crimes and that of his co-conspirators, it is a systemic loss of Trust in the government and political elites. The allegations against Epstein and his associates were extremely serious, at the absolute minimum they involved major political and economic figures involved in sex trafficking and the sexual abuse of minors, the worst allegations were that foreign individuals or governments had gained compromising information about these figures and used it subvert the government policies for their benefits. I do not know if all of these allegations were, but at least some of these allegations involving sexual abuse were truth (Epstein himself admitted as much when he took the original guilty plea).

In re-arresting Epstein under new charges, the government itself also asserted that 1) they believed Epstein committed other crimes and 2) they were reasonably likely to get a conviction at a trial (prosecutors are not supposed to bring charges against people unless they think they can get a conviction at trial). Again, I do not know if all of these allegations were true, but in bring a case the government said that they believed that they were. Lastly, in refusing to grant bail to Epstein, the government clearly and publicly took on the responsibility of protecting Epstein from ALL THREATS (including himself, other inmates, guards, health issues, everything) while he was in their custody.

The fact that Epstein, allegedly, tried to commit suicide a week ago and was then moved to the highest level of care and security by the government where he then dies after "allegedly" committing suicide is a huge, public and devastating failure of the government to fulfill their obligations to society, the courts and even Epstein (that is assuming Epstein really is dead). This is made all the worst by the fact that many, many people (Zerohedge, moon of alabama, RT, infowars, the Duran among others) had stated their fears that Epstein would be murdered in such a way by powerfully forces within the government and political elites, in the eyes of these people, their concerns have been fully vindicated. By failing to fulfill their obligations in such a public way, especially after being warned repeatedly by people concerned about just such a situation unfolding, the US government has hugely discredited itself and legitimized the believe that the US government and the political elite is deeply, systematically corrupt.

Now, undoubtedly the US government and society will not be fatally undermined by a single event such as this. But for the prior 30 years (at least), the US government and society seem unable to generate successes for anyone except the top 1% and indeed seems openly hostile to the very idea that government should ever create a benefit for anyone except the 1% or that the political and economic elite should ever be held accountable for any failure or crimes they commit (the 2001 tech bubble, the Iraq war, the 2008 financial crisis, Libya, Syria, Iran, Venezuela and now the Epstein scandal). At some point a critical threshold will be breeched and people will slowly stop believing in the various government narratives on events and public policies. Many American already reject the US government's narrative on 9/11, the Iraq war, Syria now some of them will add the Epstein episode to their list of disbelieved narratives. Unless the US government reverses course and starts rebuilding it's legitimacy and trust, this rejection of US government narratives will spread to the most fundamental government narrative, that the US government is the legitimate government of the people. Once that narrative is disbelieved by as little as 1/3 of the population, the US (as it currently exists) is doomed. When will that happen, that's the $64 question although I personally believe it will be within the next 20 years unless some reforming figure arises

Mina , Aug 10 2019 17:09 utc | 109
Since he was certainly a spook it makes sense that he knew he had to commit suicide by himself. Suicided, yes, but by his owners who dropped him. The guy still thought recently he could be released on bail.

Now what about the many pages missing from the published documents?? and those pages where she starts talking about some big guys and have a lot of black on the lines??

Noirette , Aug 10 2019 17:13 utc | 111
Why did Epstein return to the US? The situation was desperate, escape in any way at all at any cost should have been top priority.

Epstein was lured back with false promises of 'the fix is in,' he would be aided, nothing serious, be let off, etc. (imho)

Doc. 2009/10, depositions of various witnesses in a previous Epstein case -- Epstein vs. Bradley J. Edwards. Released long ago.

Link is searchable, 800+ pages.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1508967-deposition-excerpts.html#document/p55

The details of Trump's only ride on an Epstein plane, from Florida to NY, he 'hitched a ride' - no girls. It is curious, as Ilargi, no Trump fan, points out the MSM has never bothered to report this, plus keeps on suggesting that Trump is involved with Epstein, insinuating guilt by association (sex trafficking, pedophilia, prostitution, abuse, blackmail, etc.) Publishing that photo of Epstein w. Trump and Maxwell, Melania, over and over.

https://www.theautomaticearth.com/2019/08/epstein-or-how-your-news-is-cooked/

Giuffre (> recent doc release) confirms - Trump never flirted with her, she never saw Trump involved with any girls. (see also dan 77)

The MSM goes so far as to not report court cases, witness testimony, legal conclusions, etc. from the US judiciary (itself notoriously corrupt!) -> even the minor attempts to uphold say, the first amendment / some small parts of the rule of law.. are ignored, hidden, flatly denied..

Circe might accuse me of supporting Trump! - NO, no..no...


O , Aug 10 2019 17:13 utc | 112
Posted by: donkeytale | Aug 10 2019 16:55 utc | 103

You know what, you are right... I can't say 100 percent what exactly happened but this has to have everybody's BS detector on full alert.

As Posted by: Kadath | Aug 10 2019 17:01 utc | 106
"At some point a critical threshold will be breeched and people will slowly stop believing in the various government narratives on events and public policies. Many American already reject the US government's narrative on 9/11, the Iraq war, Syria now some of them will add the Epstein episode to their list of disbelieved narratives. Unless the US government reverses course and starts rebuilding it's legitimacy and trust, this rejection of US government narratives will spread to the most fundamental government narrative, that the US government is the legitimate government of the people. Once that narrative is disbelieved by as little as 1/3 of the population, the US (as it currently exists) is doomed. "

The lies haven't got so blatant that the narrative managers are asking to disregard any logic to believe their stories. This Epstein case I have personally been following since 2015. From all that I read of the guy, suicide doesn't seem like his way. Ratting everyone else out seemed more his style. Thus I lean more on a hit job more than anything.

somebody , Aug 10 2019 17:13 utc | 113
I would say it is mainly a wallstreet story.

The mysteries of Jeffrey Epstein's financial black book

I didn't really know Jeffrey. He was like Boo Radley in the corner of the room. After I met him, he became Jeffrey Epstein, he had no interest in me. He knew right out of the box who the players were, the people who would stay out all night, people who had interests in extracurricular objectives, and who the hitters were. That wasn't me." ... The Wall Street names in the book range from the highly prominent to the obscure, and, for some unknown reason, a disproportionate number of names of bankers in it worked once upon a time at Lazard, my old firm.

Financial Times Book review

Cohan dutifully records passing events in the outside world, such as the near-bankruptcy of New York, which Mr Rohatyn averted, and various mergers and acquisitions. But the interesting action was taking place in Lazard's allegedly dingy (they never seemed that bad to me) offices in the Rockefeller Center, where the "great men" who advised big companies plied their trade.

The emphasis was on the "men". Cohan records that partners from Meyer to Mr David-Weill and Mr Rohatyn imported a French attitude to extramarital liaisons and the first women who worked there as bankers were apparently propositioned constantly. One young woman is even said to have been raped by two junior bankers, and according to Cohan's ac­count the bankers were eased out to avoid embarrassment.

Vasco da Gama , Aug 10 2019 17:15 utc | 114
But just because Epstein's no more doesn't mean the investigation should end

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 10 2019 16:11 utc | 78

This can't be stressed enough.

The Great US of A are absolutely FUCKEDUP. Remember what's at stake are proven and alleged public order crimes, that it was not a victim that perished, that sex trafficking, of minors or otherwise, are criminal organization type crimes. These crimes shall be prosecuted under the law. Except there is no law to be under anymore.

We can all speculate on suicide vs "suicided" but in my opinion this is several degrees below the bar, at this point I don't even think it matters that part of the discussion. I'm slightly disappointed at today's comments, but since I can't myself bring up to par, I extend it myself.

Fuckedup, i say FUCKEDUP!

Ort , Aug 10 2019 17:16 utc | 117
Caitlin Johnstone weighs in: "Jeffrey Epstein Dies Of "Suicide""
Don Wiscacho , Aug 10 2019 17:17 utc | 118
There isn't any hard evidence that Epstein was murdered, true. But if the death of the sole named accused in arguably the most high profile case in decades, involving the most well-connected elites, steeped foreign intelligence connections, in a federal prison, on suicide watch, alone in a cell wearing a paper suit, with no shoelaces, under 24/7 watch doesn't arose your suspicions, you are a special kind of obtuse. Suicide watch is designed specifically to not allow what supposedly happened. At a minimum, it is a scandal in its own right. But to happen to Epstein now, just as the trail was getting rolling, on Friday - the day known to 'bury' stories, in a federal facility in Manhattan, is as fishy as fishy gets. If you want to mock those who point that out, it reflects much more on your naivety than anyone else's.
Jackrabbit , Aug 10 2019 17:19 utc | 119
Hoarsewhisperer @104

Your comment is offensive and misleading.

He wasn't just "bonking" underage women, he was trafficking them - internationally and on a large scale. And he threatened them as well. These women were fearful.

If your daughter had been one of those "bonked", trafficked, and threatened at 15 or 16 years old maybe you wouldn't be so cavalier.

Furthermore, it's difficult to believe a wealthy person like Epstein would risk their wealth and prestige so blatantly without some belief that they were protected. Many believe that his protection came from Mega/Mossad. So the serial rapist was likely part of a criminal conspiracy that was aided and abetted by a foreign government.

I used to think you had a functioning moral compass.

Kadath , Aug 10 2019 17:23 utc | 120
Re O #112,

My BS detector has been bleeping almost non-stop since the US war on Serbia, as far as I'm concern when the US makes an assertion they need to provide verifiable evidence to back up their claims. my personal opinion is that Epstein didn't commit suicide, heck, I'm not even sure if he's really dead but if he is dead, he was probably murdered.

Norwegian , Aug 10 2019 17:24 utc | 121
Kadath @106
Well said. Indeed, loss of trust in governments is key, and this event utterly destroys the little trust that remained. Other western governments have the same problem also.

[Aug 11, 2019] MOA comments linking Epstein case with the loss of legitimacy on neoliberal goverment in the USA

Aug 11, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

Nathan Mulcahy , Aug 11 2019 18:51 utc | 7

Epstein was in custody of someone. Whether Epstien was "suicided" or his death was faked, in a functioning state that someone would be brought to justice, and that would go up the chain of command until the highest culprit is found. But we live in a system that is either a Banana Republic or a Mafia State


Formerly T-Bear , Aug 11 2019 19:46 utc | 8

@ Nathan Mulcahy | Aug 11 2019 18:51 utc | 7

Had you given thought to: Banana Mafia State Democracy ?

Formerly T-Bear , Aug 11 2019 19:46 utc | 8 james , Aug 11 2019 20:04 utc | 9
false choices and a load of shite.. how is a crony capitalism, banana mafia run country supposed to be a sovereign state?? personally i can't see it.. pat lang as usual is for the most part, off his rocker..sovereign state my ass..
uncle tungsten , Aug 11 2019 20:42 utc | 10
FWIW New Eastern Outlook is running a story by Gordon Duff on Epstein's murder including citing Bill Richardson and plutonium theft from USA stockpile. Messad gets a mention.
vk , Aug 11 2019 20:42 utc | 11
After good pressure from its readership, it seems the NYT is caving in and beginning to do some "investigative journalism":

Before Jail Suicide, Jeffrey Epstein Was Left Alone and Not Closely Monitored

I put investigative journalism between quotation marks because the editors of the NYT probably already know who killed Epstein. "Playing along" with the investigative narrative would be the more appropriate term.

Jay , Aug 11 2019 20:56 utc | 12
Even the New York Times is reporting that 2 guards who were supposed to check on Epstein every 30 minutes since he was in "protective" custody didn't do their rounds, or not all of their rounds, on Friday night into Saturday morning:


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/11/nyregion/epstein-death-manhattan-correctional-center.html

Paragraph three, quoted in full:

Mr. Epstein was supposed to have been checked by the two guards in the protective housing unit every 30 minutes, but that procedure was not followed that night, a law-enforcement official with knowledge of his detention said.

Nothing to see here, move along, don't care that the doctors at Parkland said publicly and unambiguously that day that JFK was shot from the front.

Tonymike , Aug 11 2019 21:00 utc | 14
If you look at Epstein, he was a cog in the one of the largest White Slave trade endeavors for a country that begins with I and ends in an L (or better known as Occupied Palestine). Israel has been noted for years to have one of the largest white slave sex trade operations in the world. Bringing in young white Estonian, Latvian, and other eastern european white girls for jobs as maids, nanny's, and other domestic help, until upon arrival their passports are taken and they have to work in brothels for 16 hours a day to pay off fees the fends impose upon them. I could provide sources from the UN to other bodies but look it up yourself. Epstein was only doing God's work for the chosenites.
karlof1 , Aug 11 2019 21:27 utc | 18
Responding to several questions in the last open thread, I mentioned the fact that Epstein's case reflects the great amount of corruption prevalent within the Outlaw US Empire, and it's that aspect of the case that might be used as a campaign issue, particularly since Sanders is going to great lengths to point to the utterly corrupt and immoral nature of "health" insurance and Big Pharma. That was exactly the line he presented on today's Face The Nation program, despite the primary fccus being gun control:

"'The American people are sick and tired of powerful corporate interest determining what goes on in Washington,' Sanders said. 'You know that's whether it's the healthcare industry, whether it is the fossil fuel industry, whether it is the NRA.'"

The other important point Sanders made was the divisive nature of Trump's rhetoric--that becoming more divided now isn't in the nation's best interest:

"He is creating the kind of divisiveness in this nation that is the last thing we should be doing."

Ah, but that's exactly what the Current Oligarchy wants done--create an ever more divisive nation such that solidarity--and thus Movement Building--becomes ever harder to attain and realize.

bjd , Aug 11 2019 21:33 utc | 19
Any NYT reporting on Epstein is meant as a distraction -- to cover up the facts.
The NYT is the elites' protector, it punches down instead of up.
The NYT 'revelations' about guards are a) punching down to protect elites and b) a distraction to protect elites.
The NYT is one of the Augean Stables.
karlof1 , Aug 11 2019 21:54 utc | 22
18 Cont'd--

IMO, it matters not whether Epstein's alive or dead. What matters is that a person like Epstein was able to become what Epstein became, which was enabled through the great, vast cesspool of corruption that the global elite inhabit. Epstein ought to become the Poster Boy for ridding the nation of government and elite corruption that affects every aspect of life here and everywhere. As many have said, Billionaires ought not to exist--no one individual should have that much wealth and power. The thesis embodied within Andrew Carnegie's Gospel of Wealth (PDF) ought to be made into law such that it's ensured that those fortunate enough to become well-off thanks to the public--directly or indirectly via government--return a great proportion of that wealth to their benefactors. IMO, had such a law been in force, the corruption that enabled Epstein would have had a more difficult time doing what it did.

Yes, there are other factors/actors involved that aided Epstein's racket. We have an excellent idea of who and what--China has the proper solution for such corruption. Ridding the world of those factors/actors ought to be equivalent to the Quest for The Grail.

At least comfort can come from knowing that the evil within Syria is currently being eradicated, and that additional evil plans are being thwarted thanks to the Forces of Resistance.

[Aug 11, 2019] This does significantly strain the overall credibility of the system

Aug 11, 2019 | turcopolier.typepad.com

John Merryman , 10 August 2019 at 06:20 PM

This does significantly strain the overall credibility of the system, among those who would like nothing more than to believe in it, but still have some conscience and working brain cells.

Yet having been raised fairly rural, with a significant respect for the natural cycles, this is nothing so much as watching necrotic tissue decay even further. Only for those raised in fairly sterile conditions, does it seem abnormal.

strateshooter , 11 August 2019 at 09:06 AM
this corruption in US politics and DOJ is now so so pervasive hat I think only way to clear the cancer is for trump to use the Military to replace CIA, FBI, DOJ , clean out the Judges , clean out the Media and start again with STRICT compliance to the Laws of the US Constitution.

The FBI /DOJ is clearly infested with the cancer of corruption.
The DC and NY offices need to be fired in entirety and replaced by mid America new blood.

EK -> strateshooter... , 11 August 2019 at 10:43 AM
I was wondering when I would see a Trump supporter explicitly promoting a military coup in the US in a Trump supportive blog with the alibi of returning to "Constitution and Law strict compliance"...

No wonder a military coup is anti-constitutional....

I always thought all these stories of the "deep state", the "borg", "drainning the swmp", "paedophilia conspiracy theories", "Epstein case", "white supremacism terrorism", and attacks by Trump, and his ideologues, against any US institution, were designed to sow the enough ammount of distrust and confussion amongst the US population so that they become more rone to allow such an outrage...

"The FBI /DOJ is clearly infested with the cancer of corruption."

Mainly since both ends of the bipartisan system try to hijack the independence of some these powers by placing their ideologically kindred men any time they grab presidency. This includes Trump.

"The DC and NY offices need to be fired in entirety and replaced by mid America new blood."

A public officers corps which reachs its position by merits independent from political filiation is the best gurantee for a Constitutional rule and a vaccine against authoritarian aims/intends like coup d´etats.

turcopolier -> EK... , 11 August 2019 at 11:15 AM
EK

I suppose that from your position of "resistance" tht I appear to be a Trump supporter but I am not. I support the constitution and little else.

[Aug 11, 2019] Epstein s suicide is simply too convenient for too many wealthy, politically powerful people (of both parties) whom he might have implicated.

Notable quotes:
"... Last time we were promised someone whose integrity was “beyond question” we got Robert Mueller and a team of Hillary donors investigating a GOP President ..."
Aug 11, 2019 | twitter.com

Robert P. George ‏ 8:12 AM - 10 Aug 2019

Epstein's suicide--while on suicide watch in a prison--is simply too convenient for too many wealthy, politically powerful people (of both parties) whom he might have implicated. The investigation must be thorough, transparent, and by someone whose integrity is beyond question.

Robert P. George‏ @McCormickProf Aug 10

We won't get a special counsel in a case like this, but if I had the power to appoint one the choice would be easy: Jack Goldsmith of Harvard Law School. We need a person of his exceptional ability and integrity to get to the bottom of this and stop the further erosion of trust.

Will Chamberlain‏ @willchamberlain Aug 10

Replying to @McCormickProf

Last time we were promised someone whose integrity was “beyond question” we got Robert Mueller and a team of Hillary donors investigating a GOP President

[Aug 11, 2019] One weak spot of the conspiracy theory that Epstein was killed: Why not terminate him overseas before his return? No mess, no fuss

Highly recommended!
The question why Epstein was not terminated oversees is the critical one. It supports suicide version of his demise.
Notable quotes:
"... Why not terminate him overseas before his return? No mess, no fuss. ..."
Aug 11, 2019 | turcopolier.typepad.com

Petrel , 10 August 2019 at 06:53 PM

Epstein may have been lured back to the US with some cover story of a get-out-of-jail fake death -- only the powers that be had decided to terminate his contract.
ancientarcher said in reply to Petrel... , 11 August 2019 at 03:28 AM
We still don't know whether it's the real Epstein who died! We'll be told that, of course. But if you believe that, you'll believe anything
JP Billen , 10 August 2019 at 07:39 PM
Petrel -

Why not terminate him overseas before his return? No mess, no fuss.

[Aug 11, 2019] https://www.mintpressnews.com/mega-group-maxwells-mossad-spy-story-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/261172/ by By Whitney Webb

Highly recommended!
Images removed. For full text the original source... test
Notable quotes:
"... Maxwell, who was a business partner of Mega Group co-founder Charles Bronfman, aided the successful Mossad plot to plant a trapdoor in U.S.-created software that was then sold to governments and companies throughout the world. That plot’s success was largely due to the role of a close associate of then-President Ronald Reagan and an American politician close to Maxwell, who later helped aid Reagan in the cover-up of the Iran Contra scandal. ..."
"... Years later, Maxwell’s daughter — Ghislaine Maxwell — would join Jeffrey Epstein’s “inner circle” at the same time Epstein was bankrolling a similar software program now being marketed for critical electronic infrastructure in the U.S. and abroad ..."
"... Epstein appears to have ties to Israeli intelligence and has well-documented ties to influential Israeli politicians and the Mega Group. Yet, those entities are not isolated in and of themselves, as many also connect to the organized crime network and powerful alleged pedophiles discussed in previous installments of this series. ..."
"... Associated Press ..."
"... Lauder, then-ambassador to Austria for the Reagan administration, would have been well-positioned to acquire such a passport, particularly for the reason cited by Epstein’s attorneys that Jewish-Americans could be targeted during travel, and in light of Lauder’s very public concerns over threats Jews face from certain terror groups. Furthermore, the passport had been issued in 1987, when Lauder was still serving as an ambassador. ..."
"... Though Epstein’s defense attorney declined to reveal the identity of the “friend” who provided him with the fake Austrian passport, Lauder was both well-positioned to acquire it in Austria and also deeply connected to the Mega Group, which was co-founded by Epstein’s patron Leslie Wexner and to which Epstein has many connections. These connections to both the Austrian government and to Epstein’s mentor make Lauder the most likely person to have acquired the document on Epstein’s behalf. ..."
"... Furthermore, Lauder co-founded the Eastern European broadcasting network CETV with Mark Palmer, a former U.S. diplomat, Kissinger aide and Reagan speechwriter. Palmer is better known for co-founding the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), an organization often described as an accessory to U.S. intelligence, and one whose first president confessed to the Washington Post that “a lot of what we do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA.” A 2001 report in the Evening Standard noted that Epstein once claimed that during the 1980s he worked for the CIA, but Epstein later backed away from that assertion. ..."
"... The Mega Group — a secretive group of billionaires to which Lauder belongs — was formed in 1991 by Charles Bronfman and Leslie Wexner, the latter of whom has received considerable media scrutiny following the July arrest of his former protege Jeffrey Epstein. Media profiles of the group paint it as “a loosely organized club of 20 of the nation’s wealthiest and most influential Jewish businessmen” focused on “philanthropy and Jewishness,” with membership dues upwards of $30,000 per year. Yet several of its most prominent members have ties to organized crime. ..."
"... When Edgar Bronfman died in 2013, long-time ADL Director Abe Foxman said , “Edgar was for many years Chair of our Liquor Industry Division, Chair of our New York Appeal, and one of our most significant benefactors.” Other Mega Group members that are donors and major supporters of the ADL include Ronald Lauder , Michael Steinhardt and the late Max Fisher . As previously mentioned, Roy Cohn’s father was a long-time leader of B’nai B’rith’s influential New England-New York chapter and Cohn was later a celebrated member of its banking and finance lodge. ..."
"... In addition, Mega Group members have also been key players in the pro-Israel lobby in the United States. For instance, Max Fisher of the Mega Group founded the National Jewish Coalition, now known as the Republican Jewish Coalition — the main pro-Israel neoconservative political lobbying group , known for its support of hawkish policies, and whose current chief patrons, Sheldon Adelson and Bernard Marcus, are among Donald Trump’s top donors. ..."
"... Sam Bronfman, as was detailed in Part I of this series, had long-standing deep ties to organized crime, specifically Meyer Lanksy’s organized crime syndicate. Yet, Bronfman’s private ambition, according to those close to him, was to become a respected member of high society. As a consequence, Bronfman worked hard to remove the stain that his mob associations had left on his public reputation in Canada and abroad. He accomplished this by becoming a leader in Canada’s Zionist movement and, by the end of the 1930s, he was head of the Canadian Jewish Congress and had begun to make a name for himself as a philanthropist for Jewish causes. ..."
"... Yet even some of Bronfman’s activism and philanthropy had hints of the mobster-like reputation he tried so hard to shake. For instance, Bronfman was actively involved in the illegal shipping of arms to Zionist paramilitaries in Palestine prior to 1948, specifically as a co-founder of the National Conference for Israeli and Jewish Rehabilitation that smuggled weapons to the paramilitary group Haganah. ..."
"... However, Edgar and Charles Bronfman were hardly the only members of the Mega Group with deep and long-standing ties to the Lansky-led National Crime Syndicate. Indeed, one of the group’s prominent members, hedge fund manager Michael Steinhardt, opened up about his own family ties to Lansky in his autobiography No Bull: My Life in and out the Markets , where he noted that his father, Sol “Red McGee” Steinhardt, was Lansky’s jewel fence of choice and a major player in New York’s criminal underworld. Sol Steinhardt was also his son’s first client on Wall Street and helped him jumpstart his career in finance. ..."
"... One surprise connection to Cohn involves Mega Group member, and former president of U.S. weapons firm General Dynamics, Lester Crown, whose brother-in-law is David Schine, Cohn’s confidant and alleged lover during the McCarthy hearings, whose relationship with Cohn helped bring about the downfall of McCarthyism. ..."
"... Leslie “Les” Wexner, the other Mega Group co-founder, also has ties to organized crime. Wexner’s ties to Jeffrey Epstein have come under scrutiny following the latter’s recent arrest, as Wexner was the only publicly acknowledged client of Epstein’s suspicious hedge fund, the source of much of this wealth, and the previous owner of Epstein’s $56 million Manhattan townhouse, which Wexner transferred to an Epstein-controlled entity for free. ..."
"... The 1996 Times article also noted that, after Wexner bought the residence for $13.2 million in 1989, he spent millions more decorating and furnishing the home, including the addition of the electronic equipment in the “James Bond” bathroom, only to apparently never live in it. ..."
"... Farmer’s account strongly suggests that, given the behavior of his personal security staff at his mansion following Epstein’s alleged assault on Farmer, Wexner was well aware of Epstein’s predatory behavior towards young women. This is compounded by claims made by Alan Dershowitz — a former lawyer for and friend of Epstein’s, who has also been accused of raping underage girls — that Wexner has also been accused of raping underage girls exploited by Epstein on at least seven occasions. ..."
"... The report, titled “ Shapiro Homicide Investigation: Analysis and Hypothesis ,” names Leslie Wexner as linked “with associates reputed to be organized crime figures” and also lists the names of businessman Jack Kessler, former Columbus City Council President and Wexner associate Jerry Hammond, and former Columbus City Council member Les Wright as also being involved in Shapiro’s murder. ..."
"... As to Wexner’s alleged links to organized crime, the report focuses on the close business relationship between Wexner’s The Limited and Francis Walsh, whose trucking company “[had] done an excess of 90 percent of the Limited’s trucking business around the time of Shapiro’s murder,” according to the report. Walsh was named in a 1988 indictment as a “co-conspirator” of Genovese crime family boss Anthony “Fat Tony” Salerno, whose long-time lawyer was Roy Cohn; and the Shapiro murder report stated that Walsh was “still considered associates of the Genovese/LaRocca crime family, and Walsh was still providing truck transportation for The Limited.” ..."
"... According to a source who viewed a copy of the NSA transcript of the conversation, the intelligence officer, speaking in Hebrew, said, ‘The ambassador wants me to go to Mega to get a copy of this letter.’ The source said the supervisor in Tel Aviv rejected the request, saying, ‘This is not something we use Mega for.’” ..."
"... Almost one year to the day after the “Mega” spy scandal broke, the Wall Street Journal was the first outlet to report on the existence of a little-known organization of billionaires that was “informally” called the Mega Group and had been founded years prior in 1991. The report made no mention of the spy scandal that had spread concerns of Israeli espionage in the U.S. only a year prior. However, the group’s distinctive “informal” name and the connections of its members to the Mossad and to high-ranking Israeli politicians, including prime ministers, raise the possibility that “Mega” was not an individual, as the FBI and NSA had believed, but a group. ..."
"... Netanyahu was close enough to Lauder that he personally enlisted Lauder and George Nader to serve as his peace envoys to Syria. ..."
"... Nader, who was connected to the Trump 2016 campaign and Trump ally and Blackwater founder Erik Prince, was recently hit with federal child sex trafficking charges last month, soon after Jeffrey Epstein had been arrested on similar charges. At the time Nader was picked to work with Lauder on Netanyahu’s behalf, he had already been caught possessing large amounts of child pornography on two separate occasions, first in 1984 and later in 1990. ..."
"... Maxwell was also a close associate and friend of Israeli “superspy” Rafi Eitan, who, as previously mentioned, was Jonathan Pollard’s handler and who had previously worked directly with Meyer Lansky. ..."
"... With Inslaw out of the way, Brian sold the software all over the world. Eitan later recruited Robert Maxwell to become another Promis salesman, which he did remarkably well, even succeeding in selling the software to Soviet intelligence and conspiring with Republican Texas Senator John Tower to have the software adopted by the U.S. government laboratory at Los Alamos. Dozens of countries used the software on their most carefully guarded computer systems, unaware that Mossad now had access to everything Promis touched. ..."
"... According to journalist Robert Fisk , Maxwell was also involved in the Mossad abduction of Israeli nuclear weapons whistleblower Vanunu Mordechai. Mordechai had attempted to provide the media with information on the extent of Israel’s nuclear weapons program, which was eventually published by the Sunday Times of London . Yet, Mordechai had also contacted the Daily Mirror with the information, the Mirror being an outlet that was owned by Maxwell and whose foreign editor was a close Maxwell associate and alleged Mossad asset, Nicholas Davies. Journalist Seymour Hersh alleged that Davies had also been involved in Israeli arms deals. ..."
"... Per Fisk, it was Maxwell who contacted the Israeli Embassy in London and told them of Mordechai’s activities. This led to Mordechai’s entrapment by a female Mossad agent who seduced him as part of a “honey trap” operation that led to his kidnapping and later imprisonment in Israel. Mordechai served an 18-year sentence, 12 years of which were in solitary confinement. ..."
"... According to authors Gordon Thomas and Martin Dillon, Maxwell had sealed his own fate when he attempted to threaten top Mossad officials with the exposure of certain operations if they did not help him rescue his media empire from crippling debt and financial difficulties. Many of Maxwell’s creditors , who had grown increasingly displeased with the media mogul, were Israeli and several of them were alleged to be Mossad-connected themselves. ..."
"... Another attendee of the Maxwell yacht party was former Secretary of the Navy and former Henry Kissinger staffer Jon Lehman, who would go on to associate with the controversial neoconservative think tank, Project for a New American Century. Prior to being secretary of the Navy, Lehman had been president of the Abington Corporation, which hired arch-neocon Richard Perle to manage the portfolio of Israeli arms dealers Shlomo Zabludowicz and his son Chaim, who paid Ablington $10,000 month. A scandal arose when those payments continued after both Lehman and Perle joined the Reagan Department of Defense and while Perle was working to persuade the Pentagon to buy arms from companies linked to Zabludowicz. Perle had been part of the Reagan transition team along with Roy Cohn’s long-time friend and law partner Tom Bolan (another Maxwell yacht guest). ..."
"... Even though Jeffrey Epstein appears to have had ties to the Mossad, this series has revealed that the networks to which Epstein was connected were not Mossad-exclusive, as many of the individuals close to Epstein — Lesie Wexner, for instance — were part of a mob-connected class of oligarchs with deep ties to both the U.S. and Israel. ..."
"... Ultimately, the picture painted by the evidence is not a direct tie to a single intelligence agency but a web linking key members of the Mega Group, politicians, and officials in both the U.S. and Israel, and an organized-crime network with deep business and intelligence ties in both nations. ..."
Aug 07, 2019 | www.mintpressnews.com

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A s billionaire pedophile and alleged sex-trafficker, Jeffrey Epstein sits in prison, reports have continued to surface about his reported links to intelligence, his financial ties to several companies and “charitable” foundations, and his friendships with the rich and powerful as well as top politicians.

While Part I and Part II of this series, “The Jeffrey Epstein Scandal: Too Big to Fail,” have focused on the widespread nature of sexual blackmail operations in recent American history and their ties to the heights of American political power and the U.S. intelligence community, one key aspect of Epstein’s own sex-trafficking and blackmail operation that warrants examination is Epstein’s ties to Israeli intelligence and his ties to the “informal” pro-Israel philanthropist faction known as “the Mega Group.”

The Mega Group’s role in the Epstein case has garnered some attention, as Epstein’s main financial patron for decades, billionaire Leslie Wexner, was a co-founder of the group that unites several well-known businessmen with a penchant for pro-Israel and ethno-philanthropy (i.e., philanthropy benefiting a single ethnic or ethno-religious group). However, as this report will show, another uniting factor among Mega Group members is deep ties to organized crime, specifically the organized crime network discussed in Part I of this series, which was largely led by notorious American mobster Meyer Lansky.

By virtue of the role of many Mega Group members as major political donors in both the U.S. and Israel, several of its most notable members have close ties to the governments of both countries as well as their intelligence communities. As this report and a subsequent report will show, the Mega Group also had close ties to two businessmen who worked for Israel’s Mossad — Robert Maxwell and Marc Rich — as well as to top Israeli politicians, including past and present prime ministers with deep ties to Israel’s intelligence community.

One of those businessmen working for the Mossad, Robert Maxwell, will be discussed at length in this report. Maxwell, who was a business partner of Mega Group co-founder Charles Bronfman, aided the successful Mossad plot to plant a trapdoor in U.S.-created software that was then sold to governments and companies throughout the world. That plot’s success was largely due to the role of a close associate of then-President Ronald Reagan and an American politician close to Maxwell, who later helped aid Reagan in the cover-up of the Iran Contra scandal.

Years later, Maxwell’s daughter — Ghislaine Maxwell — would join Jeffrey Epstein’s “inner circle” at the same time Epstein was bankrolling a similar software program now being marketed for critical electronic infrastructure in the U.S. and abroad. That company has deep and troubling connections to Israeli military intelligence, associates of the Trump administration, and the Mega Group.

Epstein appears to have ties to Israeli intelligence and has well-documented ties to influential Israeli politicians and the Mega Group. Yet, those entities are not isolated in and of themselves, as many also connect to the organized crime network and powerful alleged pedophiles discussed in previous installments of this series.

Perhaps the best illustration of how the connections between many of these players often meld together can be seen in Ronald Lauder: a Mega Group member, former member of the Reagan administration, long-time donor to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel’s Likud Party, as well as a long-time friend of Donald Trump and Roy Cohn.

From cosmetics heir to political player

One often overlooked yet famous client and friend of Roy Cohn is the billionaire heir to the Estee Lauder cosmetics fortune, Ronald Lauder. Lauder is often described in the press as a “leading Jewish philanthropist” and is the president of the World Jewish Congress, yet his many media profiles tend to leave out his highly political past.

In a statement given by Lauder to New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman in 2018, the cosmetics heir noted that he has known Trump for over 50 years, going back at least to the early 1970s. According to Lauder, his relationship with Trump began when Trump was a student at the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania, which Lauder also attended.

Image deleted: President-elect Trump walks with Ronald Lauder after meeting at Mar-a-Lago, Dec. 28, 2016, in Palm Beach, Fla. Evan Vucci | AP

Though the exact nature of their early friendship is unclear, it is evident that they shared many of the same connections, including to the man who would later count them both as his clients, Roy Cohn. While much has been said of the ties between Cohn and Trump, Cohn was particularly close to Lauder’s mother, Estee Lauder (born Josephine Mentzer). Estee was even counted among Cohn’s most high-profile friends in his New York Times obituary .

A small window into the Lauder-Cohn relationship surfaced briefly in a 2016 article in Politico about a 1981 dinner party held at Cohn’s weekend home in Greenwich, Connecticut. The party was attended by Ronald Lauder’s parents, Estee and Joe, as well as Trump and his then-wife Ivana, who had a weekend home just two miles away. That party was held soon after Cohn had helped Reagan secure the presidency and had reached the height of his political influence. At the party, Cohn offered toasts to Reagan and to then-Senator for New York Alfonse D’Amato, who would later urge Ronald Lauder to run for political office.

Two years later, in 1983, Ronald Lauder — whose only professional experience at that point was working for his parent’s cosmetics company — was appointed to serve as United States Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for European and NATO Affairs. Soon after his appointment, he served on the Dinner Tribute Committee for a dinner hosted by the Jewish fraternal and strongly pro-Israel organization B’nai B’rith, the parent organization of the controversial Anti-Defamation League (ADL), in Roy Cohn’s honor. Cohn’s influential father, Albert Cohn, was the long-time president of B’nai B’rith’s powerful New England-New York chapter and Roy Cohn himself was a member of B’nai B’rith’s Banking and Finance Lodge.

The dinner specifically sought to honor Cohn for his pro-Israel advocacy and his efforts to “fortify” Israel’s economy, and its honorary chairmen included media mogul Rupert Murdoch, Donald Trump and then-head of Bear Stearns Alan Greenberg, all of whom are connected to Jeffrey Epstein.

During his time as deputy assistant secretary of defense, Lauder was also very active in Israeli politics and had already become an ally of the then-Israeli representative to the United Nations and future prime minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu. Lauder would go on to be one of the most important individuals in Netanyahu’s rise to power, particularly during his upset victory in 1996, and a major financier of Israel’s right-wing Likud Party.

In 1986, the year that Roy Cohn died, Lauder left his post at the Pentagon and became the U.S. ambassador to Austria, where his tenure was shaped by his confrontations with the then-Austrian president and former Nazi collaborator, Kurt Waldheim. Lauder’s interest in Austrian politics has continued well into recent years, culminating in accusations that he sought to manipulate Austrian elections in 2012.

After leaving his ambassadorship, Lauder founded the Ronald S. Lauder Foundation in 1987 and later went on to run for Mayor of New York against Rudy Giuliani in 1989. Lauder was encouraged to run by then-Senator Alfonse D’Amato, who had close ties to Roy Cohn and his long-time law partner Tom Bolan, who was D’Amato’s adviser . At the aforementioned 1983 B’nai B’rith dinner honoring Cohn, D’Amato was the featured speaker.

The likely reason was that Giuliani, though once an ally of the “Roy Cohn machine,” was at the time deeply disliked by the late Cohn’s associates for prosecuting Cohn’s former law partner, Stanley Friedman, for racketeering, conspiracy and other charges. Giuliani also had a history of bitter disagreements with D’Amato. Lauder’s primary campaign, though unsuccessful, was noted for its viciousness and its cost, as it burned through more than $13 million.

A few years later, in the early 1990s, Lauder would join a newly formed group that has long evaded scrutiny from the media but has recently become of interest in connection with the Jeffrey Epstein scandal: the Mega Group.

Lauder, Epstein and the mysterious Austrian passport

Before getting to the Mega Group, it is worth noting one particular act apparently undertaken by Lauder while he was U.S. ambassador to Austria that has recently come to light in relation to the arrest in early July of Jeffrey Epstein, a finding first reported by journalist Edward Szall. When police recently discovered an Austrian passport with Epstein’s picture and a fake name after raiding his Manhattan residence, the source and purpose of the passport came under media scrutiny.

According to the Associated Press , Epstein’s defense lawyers specifically argued that “a friend gave it to him [Epstein] in the 1980s after some Jewish-Americans were informally advised to carry identification bearing a non-Jewish name when traveling internationally during a period when hijackings were more common.” This claim appears to be related to concerns that followed the hijacking of Air France Flight 139 in 1976 when Israeli and Jewish hostages were separated from other hostages based largely on the passports in their possession.

Given that Epstein was unable to meet the conventional qualifications for an Austrian passport — including long-term residency in Austria (the passport lists him as a resident of Saudi Arabia) and fluency in German — it appears that the only way to have acquired an Austrian passport was by unconventional means, meaning assistance from a well-connected Austrian official or foreign diplomat with clout in Austria.

Image deleted: Ronald Lauder, right, and Austrian Chancellor Viktor Klima pose with students from the Lauder Chabad School in Vienna, Austria in 1999. Martin Gnedt | AP

Lauder, then-ambassador to Austria for the Reagan administration, would have been well-positioned to acquire such a passport, particularly for the reason cited by Epstein’s attorneys that Jewish-Americans could be targeted during travel, and in light of Lauder’s very public concerns over threats Jews face from certain terror groups. Furthermore, the passport had been issued in 1987, when Lauder was still serving as an ambassador.

In addition, Lauder was well-connected to Epstein’s former patron — former head of Bear Stearns Alan Greenberg, who had hired Epstein in the late 1970s immediately after the latter was fired from the Dalton School — and Donald Trump, another friend of Lauder and Greenberg who began his friendship with Epstein in 1987, the same year the fake Austrian passport was issued. In 1987, Epstein also began his relationship with his principal financier, Leslie Wexner, who is also closely associated with Lauder (though some sources claim that Epstein and Wexner first met in 1985 but that their strong business relationship was not established until 1987).

Though Epstein’s defense attorney declined to reveal the identity of the “friend” who provided him with the fake Austrian passport, Lauder was both well-positioned to acquire it in Austria and also deeply connected to the Mega Group, which was co-founded by Epstein’s patron Leslie Wexner and to which Epstein has many connections. These connections to both the Austrian government and to Epstein’s mentor make Lauder the most likely person to have acquired the document on Epstein’s behalf.

Furthermore, Epstein and the Mega Group’s ties to the Israeli intelligence agency, Mossad, also suggest Lauder was involved in procuring the passport, in light of his close ties to the Israeli government and the fact that Mossad has a history of using ambassadors abroad to procure false, foreign passports for its operatives.

Lauder himself has been alleged to have ties to Mossad, as he is a long-time funder of IDC Herzliya, an Israeli university closely associated with Mossad and their recruiters as well as Israeli military intelligence. Lauder even founded IDC Herzliya’s Lauder School of Government, Diplomacy and Strategy.

Furthermore, Lauder co-founded the Eastern European broadcasting network CETV with Mark Palmer, a former U.S. diplomat, Kissinger aide and Reagan speechwriter. Palmer is better known for co-founding the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), an organization often described as an accessory to U.S. intelligence, and one whose first president confessed to the Washington Post that “a lot of what we do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA.” A 2001 report in the Evening Standard noted that Epstein once claimed that during the 1980s he worked for the CIA, but Epstein later backed away from that assertion.

The origins of the Mega Group Mafia

The Mega Group — a secretive group of billionaires to which Lauder belongs — was formed in 1991 by Charles Bronfman and Leslie Wexner, the latter of whom has received considerable media scrutiny following the July arrest of his former protege Jeffrey Epstein. Media profiles of the group paint it as “a loosely organized club of 20 of the nation’s wealthiest and most influential Jewish businessmen” focused on “philanthropy and Jewishness,” with membership dues upwards of $30,000 per year. Yet several of its most prominent members have ties to organized crime.

Mega Group members founded and/or are closely associated with some of the most well-known pro-Israel organizations. For instance, members Charles Bronfman and Michael Steinhardt formed Birthright Taglit with the backing of then- and current Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Steinhardt, an atheist, has stated that his motivation in helping to found the group was to advance his own belief that devotion to and faith in the state of Israel should serve as “a substitute for [Jewish] theology.”

Other well-known groups associated with the Mega Group include the World Jewish Congress — whose past president, Edgar Bronfman, and current president, Ronald Lauder, are both Mega Group members — and B’nai B’rith, particularly its spin-off known as the Anti-Defamation League (ADL). The Bronfman brothers were major donors to the ADL, with Edgar Bronfman serving as the ADL’s honorary national vice-chair for several years.

Image deleted: Former Israeli president Shimon Peres, second from left, listens to Edgar Bronfman during a 1995 lunch thrown in Peres’ honor. From left are: Laurence Tisch, Chairman, President and Chief executive officer of CBS; Israeli Ambassador to the United States. Itamar Rabinowitz and Bronfman. David Karp | AP

When Edgar Bronfman died in 2013, long-time ADL Director Abe Foxman said , “Edgar was for many years Chair of our Liquor Industry Division, Chair of our New York Appeal, and one of our most significant benefactors.” Other Mega Group members that are donors and major supporters of the ADL include Ronald Lauder , Michael Steinhardt and the late Max Fisher . As previously mentioned, Roy Cohn’s father was a long-time leader of B’nai B’rith’s influential New England-New York chapter and Cohn was later a celebrated member of its banking and finance lodge.

In addition, Mega Group members have also been key players in the pro-Israel lobby in the United States. For instance, Max Fisher of the Mega Group founded the National Jewish Coalition, now known as the Republican Jewish Coalition — the main pro-Israel neoconservative political lobbying group , known for its support of hawkish policies, and whose current chief patrons, Sheldon Adelson and Bernard Marcus, are among Donald Trump’s top donors.

Though the Mega Group has officially existed only since 1991, the use of “philanthropy” to provide cover for more unscrupulous lobbying or business activities was pioneered decades earlier by Sam Bronfman, the father of Mega Group members Edgar and Charles Bronfman. While other North American elites like J.D. Rockefeller had previously used philanthropic giving as a means of laundering their reputations, Bronfman’s approach to philanthropy was unique because it was focused on giving specifically to other members of his own ethno-religious background.

Sam Bronfman, as was detailed in Part I of this series, had long-standing deep ties to organized crime, specifically Meyer Lanksy’s organized crime syndicate. Yet, Bronfman’s private ambition, according to those close to him, was to become a respected member of high society. As a consequence, Bronfman worked hard to remove the stain that his mob associations had left on his public reputation in Canada and abroad. He accomplished this by becoming a leader in Canada’s Zionist movement and, by the end of the 1930s, he was head of the Canadian Jewish Congress and had begun to make a name for himself as a philanthropist for Jewish causes.

Yet even some of Bronfman’s activism and philanthropy had hints of the mobster-like reputation he tried so hard to shake. For instance, Bronfman was actively involved in the illegal shipping of arms to Zionist paramilitaries in Palestine prior to 1948, specifically as a co-founder of the National Conference for Israeli and Jewish Rehabilitation that smuggled weapons to the paramilitary group Haganah.

At the same time Bronfman was abetting the illegal smuggling of weapons to the Haganah, his associates in the criminal underworld were doing the same. After World War II, close aides of David Ben-Gurion, who would later become the first prime minister of Israel and was instrumental in the founding of Mossad, forged tight-knit relationships with Meyer Lansky, Benjamin “Bugsy” Siegel, Mickey Cohen and other Jewish gangsters of the period. They used their clandestine networks to establish a vast arms smuggling network between the United States and Zionist settlements in Palestine, arming both the Haganah and the Irgun paramilitary groups. As noted in Part I of this report, at the same time these gangsters were aiding the illegal arming of ZIonsit paramilitaries, they were strengthening their ties to U.S. intelligence that had first been formally (though covertly) established in World War II.

After Israel was founded, Sam Bronfman worked with future Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres to negotiate the sale of Canadian armaments at half-price to Israel and the bargain weapons purchase was paid for entirely by a fundraising dinner hosted by Bronfman and his wife. Many years later, Peres would go on to introduce another future prime minister of Israel, Ehud Barak, to Jeffrey Epstein.

The rest of the Bronfman family’s march on “the road to respectability” was undertaken by Bronfman’s children, who married into aristocratic families such as the European Rothschilds and the Wall Street “royalty” of the Lehmans and the Loebs .

The Bronfmans’ newfound respectability did not mean that their association with the Lansky-led criminal empire had dissolved. Indeed, prominent members of the Seagrams dynasty came under fire in the 1960s and 1970s for their close association with Willie “Obie” Obront, a major figure in Canadian organized crime, whom Canadian professor Stephen Schneider has referred to as the Meyer Lansky of Canada.

However, Edgar and Charles Bronfman were hardly the only members of the Mega Group with deep and long-standing ties to the Lansky-led National Crime Syndicate. Indeed, one of the group’s prominent members, hedge fund manager Michael Steinhardt, opened up about his own family ties to Lansky in his autobiography No Bull: My Life in and out the Markets , where he noted that his father, Sol “Red McGee” Steinhardt, was Lansky’s jewel fence of choice and a major player in New York’s criminal underworld. Sol Steinhardt was also his son’s first client on Wall Street and helped him jumpstart his career in finance.

The ties between the Mega Group and the National Crime Syndicate don’t stop there. Another prominent member of the Mega Group with ties to this same criminal network is Max Fisher, who has been described as Wexner’s mentor and is also alleged to have worked with Detroit’s “Purple Gang” during Prohibition and beyond. The Purple Gang were part of the network that smuggled Bronfman liquor from Canada into the United State during Prohibition, and one of its founders, Abe Bernstein, was a close associate of both Meyer Lansky and Moe Dalitz. Fisher was a key adviser to several U.S. presidents, beginning with Dwight D. Eisenhower, as well as to Henry Kissinger.

Image removed: Max Fisher, center, and Henry Kissinger, right, meet with leaders of Jewish organizations prior to Kissinger’s 1975 Middle East trip. Henry Burroughs | AP

In addition to Fisher, Mega Group member Ronald Lauder was connected to Roy Cohn and Tom Bolan, both of whom were closely associated with this same Lansky-led crime network (see Part I and Part II ) and who regularly represented top Mafia figures in court. Furthermore, another member of the Mega Group, director Steven Spielberg, is a well-known protege of Lew Wasserman, the mob-connected media mogul and long-time backer of Ronald Reagan’s film and later political career, discussed in Part II of this series.

One surprise connection to Cohn involves Mega Group member, and former president of U.S. weapons firm General Dynamics, Lester Crown, whose brother-in-law is David Schine, Cohn’s confidant and alleged lover during the McCarthy hearings, whose relationship with Cohn helped bring about the downfall of McCarthyism.

Another member of the Mega Group worth noting is Laurence Tisch, who owned CBS News for several years and founded Loews Corporation. Tisch is notable for his work for the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), the precursor to the CIA, where Donald Barr, who hired Epstein at the Dalton School, also served and which forged ties with Lansky’s criminal empire during World War II.

Wexner’s mansions and the Shapiro murder

Leslie “Les” Wexner, the other Mega Group co-founder, also has ties to organized crime. Wexner’s ties to Jeffrey Epstein have come under scrutiny following the latter’s recent arrest, as Wexner was the only publicly acknowledged client of Epstein’s suspicious hedge fund, the source of much of this wealth, and the previous owner of Epstein’s $56 million Manhattan townhouse, which Wexner transferred to an Epstein-controlled entity for free.

Before Epstein received the townhouse, Wexner appears to have used the residence for some unconventional purposes, noted in a 1996 New York Times article on the then-Wexner-owned residence, which included “a bathroom reminiscent of James Bond movies: hidden beneath a stairway, lined with lead to provide shelter from attack and supplied with closed-circuit television screens and a telephone, both concealed in a cabinet beneath the sink.” The Times article does not speculate as to the purpose of this equipment, though the allusion to famous fictional superspy James Bond suggests that it may have been used to snoop on guests or conduct electronic surveillance.

The 1996 Times article also noted that, after Wexner bought the residence for $13.2 million in 1989, he spent millions more decorating and furnishing the home, including the addition of the electronic equipment in the “James Bond” bathroom, only to apparently never live in it. The Times , which interviewed Epstein for the piece, quoted him as saying that “Les never spent more than two months there.” Epstein told the Times , which identified Epstein as Wexner’s “protege and one of his financial advisers,” that the house, by that time, already belonged to him.

That same year, Epstein was commissioning artwork for Wexner’s Ohio mansion. A recent article from the Times noted that:

In the summer of 1996, Maria Farmer was working on an art project for Mr. Epstein in Mr. Wexner’s Ohio mansion. While she was there, Mr. Epstein sexually assaulted her, according to an affidavit Ms. Farmer filed earlier this year in federal court in Manhattan. She said that she fled the room and called the police, but that Mr. Wexner’s security staff refused to let her leave for 12 hours.”

Farmer’s account strongly suggests that, given the behavior of his personal security staff at his mansion following Epstein’s alleged assault on Farmer, Wexner was well aware of Epstein’s predatory behavior towards young women. This is compounded by claims made by Alan Dershowitz — a former lawyer for and friend of Epstein’s, who has also been accused of raping underage girls — that Wexner has also been accused of raping underage girls exploited by Epstein on at least seven occasions.

The presence of the electronic equipment in his home’s bathroom, other oddities related to the townhouse, and aspects of the links between Epstein and Wexner suggest there is more to Wexner, who has rather successfully developed a public image of a respectable businessman and philanthropist, much like other prominent members of the Mega Group.

Image removed: Leslie Wexner and his wife Abigail tour the “Transfigurations” exhibit at the Wexner Center for the Arts. Jay LaPrete | AP

However, bits and pieces of Wexner’s private secrets have occasionally bubbled up, only to be subjected to rapid cover-ups amidst concerns of “libeling” the powerful and well-connected billionaire “philanthropist.”

In 1985, Columbus (Ohio) lawyer Arthur Shapiro was murdered in broad daylight at point-blank range in what was largely referred to as a “mob style murder.” The homicide still remains unsolved, likely due to the fact that then-Columbus Police Chief James Jackson ordered the destruction of key documents of his department’s investigation into the murder.

Jackson’s ordering of the documents’ destruction came to light years later in 1996, when he was under investigation for corruption. According to the Columbus Dispatch , Jackson justified the destruction of one “ viable and valuable ” report because he felt that it “was so filled with wild speculation about prominent business leaders that it was potentially libelous.” The nature of this “wild speculation” was that “millionaire businessmen in Columbus and Youngstown were linked to the ‘mob-style murder.’”

Though Jackson’s efforts were meant to keep this “libelous” report far from public view, it was eventually obtained by Bob Fitrakis — attorney, journalist, and executive director of the Columbus Institute for Contemporary Journalism — after he was “accidentally” sent a copy of the report in 1998 as part of a public records request.

The report, titled “ Shapiro Homicide Investigation: Analysis and Hypothesis ,” names Leslie Wexner as linked “with associates reputed to be organized crime figures” and also lists the names of businessman Jack Kessler, former Columbus City Council President and Wexner associate Jerry Hammond, and former Columbus City Council member Les Wright as also being involved in Shapiro’s murder.

The report also noted that Arthur Shapiro’s law firm — Schwartz, Shapiro, Kelm & Warren — represented Wexner’s company, The Limited, and states that “prior to his death, Arthur Shapiro managed this account [The Limited] for the law firm.” It also noted that, at the time of his death, Shapiro “was the subject of an investigation by the Internal Revenue Service because he had failed to file income tax returns for some seven years prior to his death, and he had invested in some questionable tax shelters.” It also stated that his death prevented Shapiro from his planned testimony at a grand jury hearing about these “questionable tax shelters.”

As to Wexner’s alleged links to organized crime, the report focuses on the close business relationship between Wexner’s The Limited and Francis Walsh, whose trucking company “[had] done an excess of 90 percent of the Limited’s trucking business around the time of Shapiro’s murder,” according to the report. Walsh was named in a 1988 indictment as a “co-conspirator” of Genovese crime family boss Anthony “Fat Tony” Salerno, whose long-time lawyer was Roy Cohn; and the Shapiro murder report stated that Walsh was “still considered associates of the Genovese/LaRocca crime family, and Walsh was still providing truck transportation for The Limited.”

Notably, the Genovese crime family has long formed a key part of the National Crime Syndicate, as its former head, Charles “Lucky” Luciano, co-created the criminal organization with his close friend Meyer Lansky. Upon Luciano’s imprisonment and subsequent deportation from the United States, Lansky took over the syndicate’s U.S. operations and his association with Luciano’s successors continued until Lansky’s death in 1983.

The “Mega” Mystery and the Mossad

In May 1997, the Washington Post broke an explosive story — long since forgotten — based on an intercepted phone call made between a Mossad official in the U.S. and his superior in Tel Aviv that discussed the Mossad’s efforts to obtain a secret U.S. government document. According to the Post, the Mossad official stated during the phone call that “Israeli Ambassador Eliahu Ben Elissar had asked him whether he could obtain a copy of the letter given to [Palestinian leader Yasser] Arafat by [then-Secretary of State Warren] Christopher on Jan. 16, the day after the Hebron accord was signed by Arafat and Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu.”

The Post article continued:

According to a source who viewed a copy of the NSA transcript of the conversation, the intelligence officer, speaking in Hebrew, said, ‘The ambassador wants me to go to Mega to get a copy of this letter.’ The source said the supervisor in Tel Aviv rejected the request, saying, ‘This is not something we use Mega for.’”

The leaked communication led to an investigation that sought to identify an individual code-named “Mega” that the Post said “may be someone in the U.S. government who has provided information to the Israelis in the past,” a concern that subsequently spawned a fruitless FBI investigation. The Mossad later claimed that “Mega” was merely a codeword for the U.S.’ CIA, but the FBI and NSA were unconvinced by that claim and believed that it was a senior U.S. government official that had potentially once been involved in working with Jonathan Pollard, the former U.S. naval intelligence analyst later convicted of spying for the Mossad.

Almost one year to the day after the “Mega” spy scandal broke, the Wall Street Journal was the first outlet to report on the existence of a little-known organization of billionaires that was “informally” called the Mega Group and had been founded years prior in 1991. The report made no mention of the spy scandal that had spread concerns of Israeli espionage in the U.S. only a year prior. However, the group’s distinctive “informal” name and the connections of its members to the Mossad and to high-ranking Israeli politicians, including prime ministers, raise the possibility that “Mega” was not an individual, as the FBI and NSA had believed, but a group.

In 1997, when the “Mega” spy scandal broke, Netanyahu had recently become prime minister of Israel after an upset victory, a victory that was largely credited to one well-connected Netanyahu backer in particular, Ronald Lauder. Beyond being a major donor, Lauder had brought Arthur Finklestein on to work for Netanyahu’s 1996 campaign, whose strategies were credited for Netanyahu’s surprise win. Netanyahu was close enough to Lauder that he personally enlisted Lauder and George Nader to serve as his peace envoys to Syria.

Image removed: Benjamin Netanyahu and his wife Sara with Ronald Lauder in 1997. Photo | Reuters

Nader, who was connected to the Trump 2016 campaign and Trump ally and Blackwater founder Erik Prince, was recently hit with federal child sex trafficking charges last month, soon after Jeffrey Epstein had been arrested on similar charges. At the time Nader was picked to work with Lauder on Netanyahu’s behalf, he had already been caught possessing large amounts of child pornography on two separate occasions, first in 1984 and later in 1990.

This strong connection between Netanyahu and Lauder during the time of the 1997 “Mega” spy scandal is important considering Mossad answers directly to Israel’s prime minister.

Another possible connection between the Mega Group and the Mossad owes to the Mega Group’s ties to Meyer Lansky’s criminal network. As was detailed in Part I, Lansky had established deep ties to U.S. intelligence after World War II and was also connected to the Mossad through Mossad official Tibor Rosenbaum, whose bank was frequently used by Lansky to launder money. In addition, Lansky collaborated on at least one occasion with notorious Mossad “superspy” Rafi Eitan, who he helped acquire sensitive electronic equipment possessed only by the CIA but coveted by Israeli intelligence. Eitan is best known in the U.S. for being the Mossad handler of Jonathan Pollard.

Notably, Eitan was the main source of claims that the code-word “Mega” used by the Mossad officials in 1997 referred to the CIA and not to a potential source in the U.S. government once linked to Pollard’s spying activities, making his claims as to the true meaning of the term somewhat dubious.

Given that the organized crime network tied to the Mega Group had ties to both U.S. and Israeli intelligence, the “Mega” codeword could plausibly have referred to this secretive group of billionaires. More supporting evidence for this theory comes from the fact that prominent members of the Mega Group were business partners of Mossad agents, including media mogul Robert Maxwell and commodities trader Marc Rich.

The mysterious Maxwells

The Maxwell family has become a source of renewed media interest following Jeffrey Epstein’s arrest, as Ghislaine Maxwell, long described in the media as a British “socialite,” was publicly cited as Epstein’s long-time “on and off” girlfriend, and Epstein’s victims, as well as former wives of Epstein’s friends, have claimed that she was Epstein’s “pimp” and procured underage girls for his sexual blackmail operation. Ghislaine Maxwell is also alleged to have engaged in the rape of the girls she procured for Epstein and to have used them to produce child pornography.

Ghislaine was the favorite and youngest daughter of media mogul Robert Maxwell. Maxwell, born Jan Ludvick Hoch, had joined the British Army in World War II. Afterwards, according to authors John Loftus and Mark Aarons , he greatly influenced the Czechoslovakian government’s decision to arm Zionist paramilitaries during the 1948 war that resulted in Israel’s creation as a state, and Maxwell himself was also involved in the smuggling of aircraft parts to Israel.

Around this time, Maxwell was approached by British intelligence outfit MI6 and offered a position that Maxwell ultimately declined. MI6 then classified him as “Zionist — loyal only to Israel” and made him a person of interest. He later became an agent of the Mossad, according to several books including Seymour Hersh’s The Samson Option: Israel’s Nuclear Arsenal and American Foreign Policy, and Robert Maxwell: Israel’s Superspy by Gordon Thomas and Martin Dillon.

According to Victor Ostrovsky , a former Mossad case officer:

Mossad was financing many of its operations in Europe from money stolen from Maxwell’s newspaper pension fund. They got their hands on the funds almost as soon as Maxwell made the purchase of the Mirror Newspaper Group with money lent to him by Mossad.”

In exchange for his services, the Mossad helped Maxwell satisfy his sexual appetite during his visits to Israel, providing him with prostitutes, “the service maintained for blackmail purposes.” It was later revealed that the hotel in which he stayed in Israel was bugged with cameras, allowing the Mossad to acquire “a small library of video footage of Maxwell in sexually compromising positions.” As with the CIA, the Mossad’s use of blackmail against both friend and foe is well-documented and known to be extensive .

Maxwell was also a close associate and friend of Israeli “superspy” Rafi Eitan, who, as previously mentioned, was Jonathan Pollard’s handler and who had previously worked directly with Meyer Lansky. Eitan had learned of a revolutionary new software being used by the U.S. government known as “Promis” from Earl Brian, a long-time associate and aide to Ronald Reagan. Promis is often considered the forerunner to the “Prism” software used by spy agencies today and was developed by William Hamilton, who leased the software to the U.S. government through his company, Inslaw, in 1982.

Image removed: Ariel Sharon (right)meets with Robert Maxwell in Jerusalem on Feb. 20, 1990. Photo | AP

According to author and former BBC investigative journalist Gordon Thomas, Brian was angry that the U.S. Department of Justice was successfully using Promis to go after organized crime and money-laundering activities and Eitan felt that the program could aid Israel. At the time, Eitan was the director of the now defunct Israeli military intelligence agency Lekem, which gathered scientific and technical intelligence abroad from both public and covert sources, especially in relation to Israel’s nuclear weapons program.

A plan was hatched to install a “trapdoor” into the software and then market Promis throughout the world, providing the Mossad with invaluable intelligence on the operations of its enemies and allies while also providing Eitan and Brian with copious amounts of cash. According to the testimony of ex-Mossad official Ari Ben-Menashe, Brian provided a copy of Promis to Israel’s military intelligence, which contacted an Israeli American programmer living in California who then planted the “trapdoor” in the software. The CIA was later said to have installed its own trapdoor in the software but it is unknown if they did so with a version of the already bugged software and how widely it was adopted relative to the version bugged by Israeli intelligence.

After the trapdoor was inserted, the problem became selling the bugged version of the software to governments as well as private companies around the world, particularly in areas of interest. Brian first attempted to buy out Inslaw and Promis and then use that same company to sell the bugged version.

Unsuccessful, Brian turned to his close friend, then-Attorney General Ed Meese whose Justice Department then abruptly refused to make the payments to Inslaw that were stipulated by the contract, essentially using the software for free, which Inslaw claimed to be theft. Some have speculated that Meese’s role in that decision was shaped, not only by his friendship with Brian, but the fact that his wife was a major investor in Brian’s business ventures. Meese would later become an adviser to Donald Trump when he was president-elect.

Inslaw was forced to declare bankruptcy as a result of Meese’s actions and sued the Justice Department. The court later found that the Meese-led department “took, converted, stole” the software through “trickery, fraud and deceit.”

With Inslaw out of the way, Brian sold the software all over the world. Eitan later recruited Robert Maxwell to become another Promis salesman, which he did remarkably well, even succeeding in selling the software to Soviet intelligence and conspiring with Republican Texas Senator John Tower to have the software adopted by the U.S. government laboratory at Los Alamos. Dozens of countries used the software on their most carefully guarded computer systems, unaware that Mossad now had access to everything Promis touched.

Whereas the Mossad’s past reliance on gathering intelligence had relied on the same tactics used by its equivalents in the U.S. and elsewhere, the widespread adoption of the Promis software, largely through the actions of Earl Brian and Robert Maxwell, gave the Mossad a way to gather not just troves of counterintelligence data, but also blackmail on other intelligence agencies and powerful figures.

Indeed, Promis’ backdoor and adoption by intelligence agencies all over the world essentially provided the Mossad with access to troves of blackmail that the CIA and FBI had acquired on their friends and foes for over half a century. Strangely, in recent years, the FBI has sought to hide information related to Robert Maxwell’s connection to the Promis scandal.

According to journalist Robert Fisk , Maxwell was also involved in the Mossad abduction of Israeli nuclear weapons whistleblower Vanunu Mordechai. Mordechai had attempted to provide the media with information on the extent of Israel’s nuclear weapons program, which was eventually published by the Sunday Times of London . Yet, Mordechai had also contacted the Daily Mirror with the information, the Mirror being an outlet that was owned by Maxwell and whose foreign editor was a close Maxwell associate and alleged Mossad asset, Nicholas Davies. Journalist Seymour Hersh alleged that Davies had also been involved in Israeli arms deals.

Per Fisk, it was Maxwell who contacted the Israeli Embassy in London and told them of Mordechai’s activities. This led to Mordechai’s entrapment by a female Mossad agent who seduced him as part of a “honey trap” operation that led to his kidnapping and later imprisonment in Israel. Mordechai served an 18-year sentence, 12 years of which were in solitary confinement.

Then, there is the issue of Maxwell’s death, widely cited by mainstream and independent media alike as suspicious and a potential homicide . According to authors Gordon Thomas and Martin Dillon, Maxwell had sealed his own fate when he attempted to threaten top Mossad officials with the exposure of certain operations if they did not help him rescue his media empire from crippling debt and financial difficulties. Many of Maxwell’s creditors , who had grown increasingly displeased with the media mogul, were Israeli and several of them were alleged to be Mossad-connected themselves.

Thomas and Dillon argue in their biography of Maxwell’s life that the Mossad felt that Maxwell had become more of a liability than an asset and killed him on his yacht three months after he demanded the bailout. On the other extreme are theories that suggest Maxwell committed suicide because of the financial difficulties his empire faced.

Image removed: Ghislaine Maxwell, far right, Robert Maxwell’s daughter, looks on his casket is unloaded from a plane in Jerusalem, Nov. 8, 1991. Heribert Proepper | AP

Some have taken Maxwell’s funeral held in Israel as the country’s “official” confirmation of Maxwell’s service to the Mossad, as it was likened to a state funeral and attended by no less than six serving and former heads of Israeli intelligence. During his funeral service in Jerusalem, Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir eulogized him and stated : “He has done more for Israel than can today be said.” Other eulogies were given by future Prime Ministers Ehud Olmert (then Health Minister) and Shimon Peres, with the latter also praising Maxwell’s “services” on behalf of Israel.

Swimming in the same swamp

As he built his business empire — and even became a member of Parliament, Maxwell was also doing work for Israeli intelligence, as several of the Israeli companies in which he invested became fronts for the Mossad. In addition, as he became a media mogul, he developed a bitter rivalry with Rupert Murdoch, a close friend of Roy Cohn and an influential figure in American and British media.

Maxwell also partnered with the Bronfman brothers, Edgar and Charles — key figures in the Mega Group. In 1989 Maxwell and Charles Bronfman partnered up to bid on the Jerusalem Post newspaper and the Post described the two men as “two of the world’s leading Jewish financiers” and their interest in the venture as “developing The Jerusalem Post and expanding its influence among world Jewry.” A year prior, Maxwell and Bronfman had become top shareholders in the Israeli pharmaceutical company Teva.

Maxwell also worked with Charles Bronfman’s brother Edgar in the late 1980s to convince the Soviet Union to allow Soviet Jews to immigrate to Israel. Edgar’s efforts in this regard have received more attention , as it was a defining moment of his decades-long presidency of the World Jewish Congress, of which Ronald Lauder is currently president. Yet, Maxwell had also made considerable use of his contacts in the Soviet government in this effort.

Maxwell also moved in the circles of the network previously described in Parts I and II in this series. A key example of this is the May 1989 party Maxwell hosted on his yacht, the Lady Ghislaine — named for his youngest daughter and Epstein’s future “girlfriend.” Attendees of the party included Roy Cohn’s protege Donald Trump and his long-time law partner Tom Bolan. A close friend of Nancy Reagan was also present, journalist Mike Wallace, as was literary agent Mort Janklow, who represented Ronald Reagan and two of Cohn’s closest friends: journalists William Safire and Barbara Walters.

The CEO of what would soon become Time Warner, Steve Ross, was also invited to the exclusive event. Ross’ presence is notable, as he had built his business empire largely through his association with New York crime lords Manny Kimmel and Abner “Longy” Zwillman. Zwillman was a close friend of Meyer Lansky, Michael Steinhardt’s father, and Sam Bronfman, father of Edgar and Charles Bronfman.

Another attendee of the Maxwell yacht party was former Secretary of the Navy and former Henry Kissinger staffer Jon Lehman, who would go on to associate with the controversial neoconservative think tank, Project for a New American Century. Prior to being secretary of the Navy, Lehman had been president of the Abington Corporation, which hired arch-neocon Richard Perle to manage the portfolio of Israeli arms dealers Shlomo Zabludowicz and his son Chaim, who paid Ablington $10,000 month. A scandal arose when those payments continued after both Lehman and Perle joined the Reagan Department of Defense and while Perle was working to persuade the Pentagon to buy arms from companies linked to Zabludowicz. Perle had been part of the Reagan transition team along with Roy Cohn’s long-time friend and law partner Tom Bolan (another Maxwell yacht guest).

In addition to Lehman, another former Kissinger staffer, Thomas Pickering was present at Maxwell’s yacht part. Pickering played a minor role in the Iran-Contra affair and, at the time of the Maxwell yacht party, he was U.S. ambassador to Israel. Senator John Tower (R-TX), who allegedly conspired with Maxwell in the Mossad-bugged Promis software at the Los Alamos laboratories, was also present. Tower died just months before Maxwell in a suspicious plane crash .

Ghislaine Maxwell was also at this rather notable event. After her father’s mysterious death and alleged murder on the same yacht that bears her name in 1991, she quickly packed her bags and moved to New York City. There, she soon made the acquaintance of Jeffrey Epstein and, a few years later, developed close ties to the Clinton family, which will be discussed in the next installment of this series.

Jeffrey Epstein and the new “Promis”

After it was revealed that Epstein had evaded stricter sentencing in 2008 due to his links to “intelligence,” it was the Mossad ties of Ghislaine Maxwell’s father that have led many to speculate that Epstein’s sexual blackmail operation was sharing incriminating information with the Mossad. Former CBS executive producer and current journalist for the media outlet Narativ , Zev Shalev, has since claimed that he independently confirmed that Epstein was tied directly to the Mossad.

Image removed: Donald and Melania Trump with Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell at the Mar-a-Lago club, Palm Beach, Florida in 2000. Photo | Davidoff Studios

Epstein was a long-time friend of former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, who has long-standing and deep ties to Israel’s intelligence community. Their decades-long friendship has been the source of recent political attacks targeting Barak, who is running in the Israeli elections against current Prime Minister Netanyahu later this year.

Barak is also close to Epstein’s chief patron and Mega Group member Leslie Wexner, whose Wexner Foundation gave Barak $2 million in 2004 for a still unspecified research program. According to Barak, he was first introduced to Epstein by former Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres, who eulogized Robert Maxwell at his funeral and had decades-long ties with the Bronfman family going back to the early 1950s. Peres was also a frequent participant in programs funded by Leslie Wexner in Israel and worked closely with the Mossad for decades.

In 2015, a few years after Epstein’s release from prison following his conviction for soliciting sex from a minor in 2008, Barak formed a company with Epstein with the chief purpose of investing in an Israeli start-up then known as Reporty. That company, now called Carbyne, sells its signature software to 911 call centers and emergency service providers and is also available to consumers as an app that provides emergency services with access to a caller’s camera and location and also runs any caller’s identity through any linked government database. It has specifically been marketed by the company itself and the Israeli press as a solution to mass shootings in the United States and is already being used by at least two U.S. counties.

Israeli media reported that Epstein and Barak were among the company’s largest investors. Barak poured millions into the company and it was recently revealed by Haaretz that a significant amount of Barak’s total investments in Carbyne was funded by Epstein, making him a “ de facto partner” in the company. Barak is now Carbyne’s chairman .

The company’s executive team are all former members of different branches of Israeli intelligence, including the elite military intelligence unit, Unit 8200, that is often likened to Israel’s equivalent of the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA). Carbyne’s current CEO, Amir Elichai, served in Unit 8200 and tapped former Unit 8200 commander Pinchas Buchris to serve as the company’s director and on its board. In addition to Elichai, another Carbyne co-founder, Lital Leshem , also served in Unit 8200 and later worked for Israeli private spy company Black Cube. Leshem now works for a subsidiary of Erik Prince’s company Frontier Services Group, according to the independent media outlet Narativ .

The company also includes several tie-ins to the Trump administration, including Palantir founder and Trump ally Peter Thiel — an investor in Carbyne. In addition, Carbyne’s board of advisers includes former Palantir employee Trae Stephens, who was a member of the Trump transition team, as well as former Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff. Trump donor and New York real-estate developer Eliot Tawill is also on Carbyne’s board , alongside Ehud Barak and Pinchas Buchris.

Narativ , which wrote the first expose on Carbyne after Epstein’s arrest, noted that the Chinese government uses a smartphone app very similar to Carbyne as part of its mass surveillance apparatus, even though the original purpose of the app was for improved emergency reporting. According to Narativ , the Chinese Carbyne-equivalent “monitors every aspect of a user’s life, including personal conversations, power usage, and tracks a user’s movement.”

Given the history of Robert Maxwell — the father of Epstein’s long-time “girlfriend” and young-girl-procuring madam, Ghislaine Maxwell — in promoting the sale of Carbyne’s modified Promis software, which was also marketed as a tool to improve government efficacy but was actually a tool of mass surveillance for the benefit of Israeli intelligence, the overlap between Carbyne and Promis is troubling and warrants further investigation.

It is also worth noting that Unit 8200-connected tech start-ups are being widely integrated into U.S. companies and have developed close ties to the U.S. military-industrial complex, with Carbyne being just one example of that trend.

As MintPress previously reported , Unit 8200-linked outfits like Team8 have recently hired former National Security Agency (NSA) Director Mike Rogers as a senior advisor and gained prominent Silicon Valley figures, including former Google CEO Eric Schmidt, as key investors. Many American technology companies, from Intel to Google to Microsoft, have merged with several Unit 8200-connected start-ups in recent years and have been moving many key jobs and operations to Israel with backing from key Republican donors like Paul Singer . Many of those same companies, particularly Google and Microsoft, are also major U.S. government contractors.

Who was Epstein really working for?

Even though Jeffrey Epstein appears to have had ties to the Mossad, this series has revealed that the networks to which Epstein was connected were not Mossad-exclusive, as many of the individuals close to Epstein — Lesie Wexner, for instance — were part of a mob-connected class of oligarchs with deep ties to both the U.S. and Israel. As was discussed in Part I of this series, the sharing of “intelligence” (i.e., blackmail) between intelligence agencies and the same organized crime network connected to the Mega Group goes back decades. With Leslie Wexner of the Mega Group as Epstein’s chief patron, as opposed to a financier with direct ties to the Mossad, a similar relationship is more than likely in the case of the sexual blackmail operation that Epstein ran.

Given that intelligence agencies in both the U.S. and elsewhere often conduct covert operations for the benefit of oligarchs and large corporations as opposed to “national security interest,” Epstein’s ties to the Mega Group suggest that this group holds a unique status and influence in both the governments of the U.S. and of Israel, as well as in other countries (e.g., Russia) that were not explored in this report. This is by virtue of their role as key political donors in both countries, as well as the fact that several of them own powerful companies or financial institutions in both countries. Indeed, many members of the Mega Group have deep ties to Israel’s political class, including to Netanyahu and Ehud Barak as well as to now-deceased figures like Shimon Peres, and to members of the American political class.

Ultimately, the picture painted by the evidence is not a direct tie to a single intelligence agency but a web linking key members of the Mega Group, politicians, and officials in both the U.S. and Israel, and an organized-crime network with deep business and intelligence ties in both nations.

Though this series has so far focused on the ties of this network to main Republican Party affiliates, the next and final installment will reveal the ties developed between this web and the Clintons. As will be revealed, despite the Clintons’ willingness to embrace corrupt dealings during the span of their political careers, their mostly friendly relationship with this network still saw them use the power of sexual blackmail to obtain certain policy decisions that were favorable to their personal and financial interests but not to the Clintons’ political reputation or agendas.

Editor’s note | The original version of this article incorrectly stated that Rafi Eitan was interested in repurposing the American-made Promise software to restore his standing in Israel’s intelligence community caused by the fall-out from the Pollard Affair. The Pollard Affair occurred three years after Eitan had succeeded in repurposing the software and MintPress has removed that incorrect information from the article and regrets the error.

This article also originally neglected to mention that Eitan, at the time of his collaboration with Earl Brian to repurpose the Promis software, was the director of the now-defunct Israeli military intelligence agency Lekem at the time of those events and that information has been added to the story.

Feature photo | Graphic by Claudio Cabrera

Whitney Webb is a MintPress News journalist based in Chile. She has contributed to several independent media outlets including Global Research, EcoWatch, the Ron Paul Institute and 21st Century Wire, among others. She has made several radio and television appearances and is the 2019 winner of the Serena Shim Award for Uncompromised Integrity in Journalism.

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[Aug 11, 2019] Jeffrey Epstein assets listed in financial disclosure form filed by lawyers add up to value of $559,120,954 - MarketWatch

Aug 11, 2019 | www.marketwatch.com

Convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein is hardly a billionaire, according to the financial disclosure form his lawyers filed in seeking bail for him.

The single-page document had been kept under seal away from the public until the Manhattan federal judge overseeing Epstein's sex-trafficking case released it Monday, dismissing it as "cursory."

Epstein lists in the filing that he has:

Cash: $56,547,773

Fixed income: $14,304,679

Equities: $112,679,138

Hedge funds and private equity: $194,986,301

Properties: 9 E. 71st St., Manhattan, worth $55,931,000; 49 Zorro Ranch Rd., Stanley, N.M., $17,246,208; 358 El Brillo Way, Palm Beach, Fla., $12,380,209; 22 Avenue Foch, Paris, France, $8,672,823; Great St. James Island in the Virgin Islands, $22,498,600; and Little St. James Island, V.I., $63,874,223.

The value of the assets listed adds up to $559,120,954.

The feds are arguing that Epstein -- who is accused of sex trafficking -- shouldn't be given bail pending trial because of the superconnected former moneyman's potential ability to buy his way to freedom.

Epstein's lawyers did not respond to a request for comment.

[Aug 08, 2019] Epstein Maintained Post-Prison Ties To Wall Street Titans - Who Gladly Embraced Him

Aug 08, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Millionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein remained in the good graces of Wall Street titans both during and after his 13-month work-release jail stint in 2008 - 2009, who only severed ties with the registered sex offender when the heat was back on, according to Bloomberg .

Barclays CEO Jes Staley

For example, Barclays CEO and longtime associate Jes Staley "visited Epstein on the private island, accompanied by his wife Debora," in 2015 - seven years after everyone knew Epstein was a pedophile . They would sever ties months later as new accusations of sexual abuse were levied against the financier , while weeks later the now-defunct Webstie Gawker published his "little black book" containing over 1,000 names of prominent individuals and their contacts.

Within months of the Bequia sailing from Little St. James, Staley cut ties to Epstein , according to a person with knowledge of the situation. The banker was in the running for the top job at Barclays, a position that required interviews and approvals by U.K. regulators. The wisdom of breaking from Epstein became apparent when the British press reported on their relationship. - Bloomberg

While not accused of participating in any of Epstein's illegal activities, Staley - who visited Epstein at his Palm Beach office while the Epstein was on prison work-release, has come under fire by those who want to know exactly how close the two were. By all accounts, Epstein played a pivotal role in Staley's rise while running JP Morgan's private bank - referring wealthy clients to the banker and helping to arrange the bank's 2004 acquisition of Highbridge Capital Management .

Staley left JPMorgan in 2013 before joining hedge fund BlueMountain Capital Management. In December 2015 joined Barclays as CEO.

Going back about two decades, Epstein regularly brought Staley business when he ran JPMorgan's private bank and the two were close professionally, according to a person familiar with the matter. One of those introductions Epstein made was to hedge fund billionaire Glenn Dubin, the New York Times reported. - Bloomberg

Staley aside, Epstein somehow managed to maintain his relationships on Wall Street despite his sex-offender pedophile lifestyle, including billionaire Leon Black, former Israeli Prime Minister (and current candidate for the job) Ehud Barak - and was able to secure preferable stock allocations in dozens of IPOs. Via Bloomberg:

Meanwhile, Epstein's travel became far more frequent in 2015 - as he flew between New York, the US Virgin Islands, New Mexico (where he owns a compound), and Paris.

In 2017 , filings for Epstein's Gratitude America charity reveal investment income of $899,417 from 52 trades - most of which involved IPOs . Clearly nobody had a problem associating with the pedophile or his money.

"The IPO trading is evidence of Mr. Epstein's level of access to the offerings," said Jacob Frenkel, chair of government investigations and securities enforcement at Dickinson Wright.

Enter the Miami Herald

In 2018, Epstein became truly radioactive after the Miami Herald published a series of reports beginning in November - titled Perversion of Justice. Not only did the Herald catalogue Epstein's many accusers - the series focused on the sweetheart deal he was given by former Trump Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta despite dozens of accusers levying claims. Acosta resigned last month amid the controversy.

Meanwhile, Deutsche Bank fired Epstein as a client earlier this year , and has been actively assisting the case against him, according to court filings.


The Abstraction of Justice , 1 minute ago link

Epstein blackmailed Parliament into accepting Staley. I have been trying to publish the FOIA that proves it fro two years, but nobody in mainstream press will touch it.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/id_like_a_transcript_or_recordin

John Mann MP and Mark Garnier MP lied to the Daily Mail to cover up the facts. The FOIA proves it. No politician will get back to me to provide an explanation.

Mr. Kwikky , 1 minute ago link

https://www.exposetheenemy.com/networks#TrumpHoneypot

Normal , 26 minutes ago link

Likely find a whole load of banksters names in there. They are a clan of pedophiles too. They can't stop until they are behind bars.

Shadows Deep , 19 minutes ago link

Don't think many will be going behind bars. The indictment is limited to actions that took place in NYC and his smallish house in Palm Beach. No mention whatsoever of Little St. James Island in the USVI where most of the action seems to have taken place. Also unmentioned, his large Zorro Ranch in New Mexico.

And it is being handled by the business corruption SDNY squad and not the Sex Crimes group one might have expected.

Oh, and Comey's daughter who is on the prosecution team is married not just to a jewish guy but to one who taught at the University of Tel Aviv.

Sort of feels as if Mossad might be around.

[Aug 08, 2019] Wexner Jeffrey Epstein 'Misappropriated' More Than $46 Million Of Fortune

Aug 08, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Billionaire Victoria's Secret owner Leslie Wexner says that Jeffrey Epstein misappropriated over $46 million of his fortune, according to the Wall Street Journal .

The L Brands founder revealed in a Wednesday letter to the Wexner Foundation that the missing funds were uncovered after a 2007 falling out he had with the pedophile financier following allegations involving the sexual abuse of underage girls.

Of note, Epstein allegedly ran a 'casting couch' operation for aspiring Victoria's Secret models out of his Manhattan townhome whereby he would promise young girls jobs with the fashion company.

" We discovered that he had misappropriated vast sums of money from me and my family ," wrote Wexner, adding " This was, frankly, a tremendous shock , even though it clearly pales in comparison to the unthinkable allegations against him now."

In January 2008, Mr. Epstein transferred $46 million worth of investments to a Wexner charitable fund, tax records show. Mr. Wexner said the transfer was only a portion of the funds that his money manager had allegedly misappropriated. "All of that money -- every dollar of it -- was originally Wexner family money," he wrote. - Wall Street Journal

Wexner provided no evidence for his claim, which certainly adds distance between he and Epstein.

Last month, the Wexner told employees in an internal email that he " was NEVER aware of the illegal activity " Epstein is accused of committing. "As you can imagine, this past week I have searched my soul ... reflected ... and regretted that my path ever crossed his. " said the 81-year-old mogul of Epstein.

After launching a business relationship in the 1980s, Wexner and Epstein formed 'a financial and personal bond that baffled longtime associates,' according to the New York Times .

" I think we both possess the skill of seeing patterns ," Wexner told Vanity Fair in 2003. "But Jeffrey sees patterns in politics and financial markets, and I see patterns in lifestyle and fashion trends."

Wexner would go on to open doors for Epstein - who managed "many aspects of his financial life."

By 1995, Epstein was a director of the Wexner Foundation and Wexner Heritage Foundation and president of Wexner's N.A. Property Inc ., which developed the Ohio town of New Albany, where Wexner lives. Epstein also was involved in Wexner's superyacht, "Limitless," attending meetings at the London studios of the firm that designed the vessel. - Bloomberg

Epstein is currently sitting in a Manhattan jail cell awaiting trial on allegations of sex-trafficking minors in what federal prosecutors allege was a multi-decade scheme to procure and sexually abuse scores of girls. If convicted, he faces up to 45 years in prison.


Rhal View Profile , 3 minutes ago link

I suspect this story is thrown out there to account for Epstein's wealth without revealing his brownstoning income.

Just a guess, but considering how quick they edited his Wikipedia page on July 8 we know the deep state is desperate to control this narrative.

They are desperate because this president ain't handing out Get-out-of-jail-free cards.

Imagine if Hillary had won.

MsCreant , 30 minutes ago link

I need your help.

I seem to have misplaced $46,000,000.

Do you have any advice for me?

WP82 , 33 minutes ago link

Jeffrey Epstein. The ultimate POS sc*mbag. #DeadManWalking

Beebee , 36 minutes ago link

This thing is massive. He's unfriending his friend.

Koba the Dread , 43 minutes ago link

An old Epstein trick. He got Wexler so excited looking at the Victoria's Secret models, he forgot to look in his pocket book. He had his hands in the wrong pockets.

MsCreant , 36 minutes ago link

You give them too much credit for too much innocence. This is much deeper and uglier. Did not report the money lost?

deFLorable hillbilly , 48 minutes ago link

And this $46 million dollar theft was not reported until now because?....

These guys would have an employee arrested over 46 cents.

Seems odd.

Stuck on Zero , 54 minutes ago link

Tax deductible trafficking of underage girls. Good deal.

Captain Nemo de Erehwon , 1 hour ago link

STFU Wexler. If that money went to finance his activities you could presumably be a facilitator who is now trying to desert that sinking ship. The secret is out. Everyone knows.

Element , 2 hours ago link

" ... I was robbed ! ..."

[Aug 07, 2019] Cohn admitted that he was part of a sexual entrapment operation that including compromising politicians with child prostitutes

Aug 07, 2019 | www.exposetheenemy.com

ROY COHN was the Mentor of Donald Trump and Roger Stone.

Part of the controlled anti-communist opposition that was known as the McCarthy investigations.

Benard Baruch was the man behind this operation as not only hyping the 'Red scare' psyop and controlled oppposition.

Cohn himself was a homosexual and alleged pedophile that died of AIDS. Central figure at famed drug and orgy room at nightclub Studio 54.

According to James Rothstein, Cohn admitted that he was part of a sexual entrapment operation that including compromising politicians with child prostitutes.

His father was a New York State Supreme Court Justice. Donald Trump and Rupert Murdoch were honored guest chairmen for a B'nai B'rith tribute dinner for Cohn.

[Aug 07, 2019] Les Wexner

Aug 07, 2019 | www.exposetheenemy.com

LES WEXNER Protegé of Max Fisher (Mega group) Secretive Billionaire Jewish Supremacist of Russian descent Chairman and CEO of L Brands. His companies Victoria Secrets, A&F used MC2 models. Connected to cotton plantations and sweatshops Allegedly operates a huge international drug running operation previous run by Max Fisher. His name and addresses are listed and highlighted as a person of interest in Epstein's little black book. He invited Epstein and Dershowitz to his 60th birthday party along with former Israeli PM Shimon Peres. Runs Wexner Foundation that finance pro-Jewish and Israeli 'causes'. Financed the JFK School at Harvard University, Connected to major figures at Harvard. Russian Jewish descent with family ties to Chabad Lubavitch. Connected to serious organised crime figures implicated in a mob-style hit on Arthur Shapiro, an attorney of Limited (now L Brands)

[Aug 02, 2019] The girls were prostitutes paid for sex. Epstein, Maxwell, the pilot Nadia and others were procurers and arrangers of the prostitution

Notable quotes:
"... Except in a few Nevada counties, being a prostitute of any age, being a customer of a prostitute, procuring and arranging contacts between prostitutes and customer, running a prostitution business and soliciting sex for money are crimes no matter what the age of the prostitute in every state and territory of the United States including Little St James Island and the states of New York and Florida. ..."
Aug 02, 2019 | www.unz.com

Alden , says: July 31, 2019 at 4:49 am GMT

@Fran Taubman Except in a few Nevada counties, being a prostitute of any age, being a customer of a prostitute, procuring and arranging contacts between prostitutes and customer, running a prostitution business and soliciting sex for money are crimes no matter what the age of the prostitute in every state and territory of the United States including Little St James Island and the states of New York and Florida.

The girls were prostitutes paid for sex. Epstein, Maxwell, the pilot Nadia and others were procurers and arrangers of the prostitution.

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[Aug 02, 2019] W>as Epstein manipulating currencies for the CIA?

He was was engaged in his pedo activities that he probably did not have any time to engage in financial speculations. Especially as risky as currencies trades.
Wexner money is much more plausible hypothesis.
Aug 02, 2019 | www.unz.com

anastasia , says: August 1, 2019 at 8:51 pm GMT

Epstein going to jail for 20 or more years? Epstein being killed? Think again.

Roger Stone, in his book on Clinton's War on Women, pp. 122-123 states as follows:

"He was manipulating currencies for the CIA", said Hoffenberg, former owner of the New York Post and collections business genius, who flamed out in a multi-million dollar Ponzi sam in the 80's.

"His pal Larry Summers hooked him up.", Hoffenberg said of then then secretary of the Treasury. "He destabilized Middle Eastern currencies to help Israel. He's protected.", he told us.

From the Daily Beast:

In the 1995 letter, Forester de Rothschild writes, "Dear Mr. President (Clinton) : It was a pleasure to see you recently at Senator Kennedy's house. There was too much to discuss and too little time. Using my fifteen seconds of access to discuss Jeffrey Epstein and currency stabilization, I neglected to talk to you about a topic near and dear to my heart. Namely, affirmative action and the future."

She then goes on to note that she's sending him a memo on the latter subject, which George Stephanopoulos had asked her to write, and signs off, "Sincerely, Lynn Forester."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-visited-clinton-white-house-multiple-times-in-early-90s?ref=home

[Aug 02, 2019] Epstein was flying Nobel prize winning scientists to his pedo island, Zoro Ranch, Palm Beach, and Manhattan.

Notable quotes:
"... all these scientists could not have not noticed that there were young girls running around and all kinds of pornographic art and photographs and art on the walls even if they kept their underpants on for the massages. ..."
"... So we have the worlds most powerful politicians, actors, bankers, lawyers, media moguls, heads of industry, and now scientists [possibly] participating in pedo-orgies with good old Jeff Epstein. ..."
Aug 02, 2019 | www.unz.com

Kartoffelstampfer , says: August 2, 2019 at 7:31 am GMT

Trunews (55′) gets into how Epstein was flying Nobel prize winning scientists to his pedo island, Zoro Ranch, Palm Beach, and Manhattan. Many of these "scientists" were transhumanists and Physicists. Stephen Hawkings even visited him after his guilty plea for pedophilia.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/31/business/jeffrey-epstein-eugenics.html

Mr. Epstein attracted a glittering array of prominent scientists. They included the Nobel Prize-winning physicist Murray Gell-Mann, who discovered the quark; the theoretical physicist and best-selling author Stephen Hawking; the paleontologist and evolutionary biologist Stephen Jay Gould; Oliver Sacks, the neurologist and best-selling author; George M. Church, a molecular engineer who has worked to identify genes that could be altered to create superior humans; and the M.I.T. theoretical physicist Frank Wilczek, a Nobel laureate.

Rick and gang point out that all these scientists could not have not noticed that there were young girls running around and all kinds of pornographic art and photographs and art on the walls even if they kept their underpants on for the massages.

So we have the worlds most powerful politicians, actors, bankers, lawyers, media moguls, heads of industry, and now scientists [possibly] participating in pedo-orgies with good old Jeff Epstein.

Meanwhile these same "scientists" all sing the exact same tune: global warming is the planet's biggest threat, on 9/11 three massive buildings crashed after 2 were hit by jets, 6 gorillian were gassed, MH17 was hit by a Russian missile, 5G is as harmless as vaccinations, dozens of HAARP stations spread across the planet are only for "research" and those chem-trails you see in the sky are merely "contrails".

What I find most disgusting is how self-proclaimed "intellectuals" and "scholars" like Ron Unz instantly circle their "peer reviewed" wagons around all these other owned "scientists" and "nobel prize winners" and then scream their "It's Science" war cry whenever their preferred narrative is threatened.

annamaria , says: August 2, 2019 at 12:11 pm GMT
@Kartoffelstampfer "self-proclaimed "intellectuals" and "scholars"
-- Academia is notorious for institutionalizing nepotism and promoting opportunism.

[Aug 02, 2019] A few comments on Epstein. First, exercise some common sense. The timing of the resuscitation of his case is anything but coincidental

Notable quotes:
"... No publicly released details should be naively accepted. For example, it makes no sense to me that he just happened to be flying back to the US. I assume he was effectively renditioned. ..."
"... Acosta is anything but a mystery. He was told to make this go away. You'll note that no one asked Robert Mueller about the case when he testified last week even though he was FBI Director at the time. Maybe he was suffering from dementia back then too! ..."
Aug 02, 2019 | www.unz.com

MLK , says: July 30, 2019 at 12:30 am GMT

A few comments on Epstein. First, exercise some common sense. The timing of the resuscitation of his case is anything but coincidental. Whomever made that happen -- like flipping a light switch -- is sending a message and applying leverage. My guess would be in the context of the conspiracy against the duly elected POTUS. The malefactors will take some hostages as they're exposed and indicted.

No publicly released details should be naively accepted. For example, it makes no sense to me that he just happened to be flying back to the US. I assume he was effectively renditioned.

Acosta is anything but a mystery. He was told to make this go away. You'll note that no one asked Robert Mueller about the case when he testified last week even though he was FBI Director at the time. Maybe he was suffering from dementia back then too!

All I know is that I correctly predicted right after Epstein's arrest that Weissmann and the other Mueller staff wouldn't testify behind closed doors as they were scheduled to. Mueller's testimony was delayed for a week. In my view to arrange a deal so that he wasn't asked anything about this under oath and to otherwise act like he could no longer knew how tie his shoes.

That said, it really is a fool's errand to try to find out a high level play like this. Usually there are many moving parts.

We shall see.

[Aug 02, 2019] It is quite intriguing that so many of these cases involve the sort of criminal or sexual misbehavior that would be ideally suited for blackmailing powerful individuals who are less likely to be vulnerable to other influences

Aug 02, 2019 | www.unz.com

Hail , says: Website July 30, 2019 at 5:20 am GMT

it is quite intriguing that so many of these cases involve the sort of criminal or sexual misbehavior that would be ideally suited for blackmailing powerful individuals who are less likely to be vulnerable to other influences. So perhaps many of the elected officials situated at the top of our democratic system merely reign as political puppets, dancing to invisible strings.

I would invite Ron Unz and readers to look up the recent case of a Mark W. Levin (b.1944 or '45). He has a murky background, but by the 2000s was apparently involved closely with some outer-tier DC organizations and by the 2010s at a small DC graduate school aimed at aspiring intelligence agents.

Levin pressured young men for sex, used blackmail and threats, though the stick was mixed in with carrots. In a word, he appeared to be part of an operation with some striking similarities to the kinds of political blackmail operations (or the gaining of 'compromised' people) alleged/proposed in this article.

The Mark W. Levin story was reported in mainstream media (see some excerpts, below; Google or Bing or DuckDuckGo for much more), but there are some questions have deserved asking since the scandal broke in spring 2017, such as: What was the source of Levin's money, with which he paid for some students' tuition? Do we know for sure that Levin was "acting alone"? Did he have any political objectives? The story was fairly extensively reported on, but I don't think any of these questions were answered.

It's possible Mark W. Levin was just a lone, sick con-artist acting alone for homosexual-gratification and power, which is what the media depicted him as. It is also possible that he really was (at least at one time) part of a blackmail operation, and that after years of service he finally went down or was discarded, messily (a lawsuit against him was made public in spring 2017).

This is really a small-time case compared to Epstein, but it may be useful for comparative purposes.

Excerpts from some press reports in the case:

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In the late 1990s, Levin began attending the institute's public lectures. Then he started handing over checks to pay for the tuitions of certain students, though the source of the money was a mystery

By late 2012, the alleged victim said, Levin told him that if he wanted to remain a candidate for Levin's covert group, he needed to avoid marriage, children, sexually transmitted diseases and relationships with Muslim women. Levin warned him, he said, that his "guys" would constantly watch him and that if he didn't follow instructions, he would be blacklisted from government jobs.

Levin began inviting his protege back to his Arlington apartment building to practice drawing a weapon – shirtless. Soon, the man said, Levin began fondling him and giving him prostate exams, telling him the inspections were key to his recruitment. Levin also bathed him in the shower under the pretext of helping him with his hygiene, according to the alleged victims' lawsuit [ ]

Although Levin told him that he was free to refuse, the Arlington man said he did not want to imperil his candidacy for the clandestine organization or risk losing out on government jobs.

When the Falls Church man applied for his internship in July 2016, Levin told him "The Watchers" or "my guys" had been surveilling him.

"Then, Mark told me: 'I've killed 38 people. We have people killed all the time. And we cover our tracks,' " he said. "I was intimidated."

John Doe recalls following Levin's instructions him to masturbate and ejaculate on his own stomach.

"Levin proceeded to play with the semen on Mr. Doe's stomach, and then informed Mr. Doe that his semen output was insufficient and could have damaging effects on Mr. Doe's 'candidacy,' and this exercise would therefore need to be repeated in the future," the complaint states.

Though the men say they found such treatment degrading, they say they trusted Levin's credentials and believed his threats, some veiled and some explicit, about his ability to harm them.

[Aug 02, 2019] Well-placed contemporary sources have claimed that Samuel Untermyer, a wealthy Jewish lawyer, purchased the secret correspondence between Woodrow Wilson and his longtime mistress

Aug 02, 2019 | www.unz.com

jokelly says: July 30, 2019 at 3:31 am GMT 300 Words

Similar rumors swirl around events much farther back in history as well, sometimes with enormous consequences. Well-placed contemporary sources have claimed that Samuel Untermyer, a wealthy Jewish lawyer, purchased the secret correspondence between Woodrow Wilson and his longtime mistress, and that the existence of that powerful leverage may have been an important factor behind Wilson's astonishingly rapid rise from president of Princeton in 1910 to governor of New Jersey in 1911 to president of the United States in 1912. Once in office, Wilson signed the controversial legislation establishing the Federal Reserve system in 1913 and also named Louis Brandeis as the first Jewish member of the U.S. Supreme Court despite the public opposition of nearly our entire legal establishment. Wilson's swiftly changing views on American involvement in the First World War may also have influenced by such personal pressures rather than solely determined by his perceptions of the national interest

When writing of the Protocols in the "International Jew" Henry Ford discussed the blackmail issue, referring anonymously to three political figures, one of whom was clearly Wilson, that were then under control of the hidden hand. Don't know who the other two were.

Re Wilson and Untermyer, my understanding was that Unternyer simultaneously represented Mrs. Peck, the wife of one of Wilson's fellow professors with who Wilson had an affair, in a (potential) alienation of affections claim against Wilson, and represented Wilson in the same matter, and supplied the money to Wilson to settle the claim, thereby cementing control over him. (Don't remember where I read this.)

Re the pedophilia issue, don't rule out that there is an element of Evil involved in this.

[Aug 02, 2019] Flight logs show Bill Clinton flew on Lolita Express more than previously known by Malia Zimmerman

May 16, 2016 | www.foxnews.com

Former President Bill Clinton was a much more frequent flyer on a registered sex offender's infamous jet than previously reported, with flight logs showing the former president taking at least 26 trips aboard the "Lolita Express" -- even apparently ditching his Secret Service detail for at least five of the flights, according to records obtained by FoxNews.com.

Clinton's presence aboard Jeffrey Epstein's Boeing 727 on 11 occasions has been reported, but flight logs show the number is more than double that, and trips between 2001 and 2003 included extended junkets around the world with Epstein and fellow passengers identified on manifests by their initials or first names, including "Tatiana." The tricked-out jet earned its Nabakov-inspired nickname because it was reportedly outfitted with a bed where passengers had group sex with young girls.

"Bill Clinton associated with a man like Jeffrey Epstein, who everyone in New York, certainly within his inner circles, knew was a pedophile," said Conchita Sarnoff, of the Washington, D.C. based non-profit Alliance to Rescue Victims of Trafficking, and author of a book on the Epstein case called "TrafficKing." "Why would a former president associate with a man like that?"

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Virginia Roberts, 32, who claims she was pimped out by Epstein at age 15, has previously claimed she saw Clinton at Epstein's getaway in 2002, but logs do not show Clinton aboard any flights to St. Thomas, the nearest airport capable of accommodating Epstein's plane. They do show Clinton flying aboard Epstein's plane to such destinations as Hong Kong, Japan, Singapore, China, Brunei, London, New York, the Azores, Belgium, Norway, Russia and Africa.

Among those regularly traveling with Clinton were Epstein's associates, New York socialite Ghislaine Maxwell and Epstein's assistant, Sarah Kellen, both of whom were investigated by the FBI and Palm Beach Police for recruiting girls for Epstein and his friends.

Official flight logs filed with the Federal Aviation Administration show Clinton traveled on some of the trips with as many as 10 U.S. Secret Service agents. However, on a five-leg Asia trip between May 22 and May 25, 2002, not a single Secret Service agent is listed. The U.S. Secret Service has declined to answer multiple Freedom of Information Act requests filed by FoxNews.com seeking information on these trips. Clinton would have been required to file a form to dismiss the agent detail, a former Secret Service agent told FoxNews.com.

In response to a separate FOIA request from FoxNews.com, the U.S. Secret Service said it has no records showing agents were ever on the island with Clinton.

[Jul 31, 2019] Jeffrey Epstein got sweetheart plea deal after becoming an FBI informant, government records reveal by Chris Spargo

What was the information he provided ? Or was it simply Clinton and British royalty lobbing for sweetheart deal
Jul 31, 2019 | dailymail.co.uk
Jeffrey Epstein became an FBI INFORMANT to secure sweetheart deal and shut down federal probe into the pedophile's abuse of underage girls, government records reveal

Jeffrey Epstein managed to shut down a federal probe into his illicit and illegal activities with underage girls and secure his sweetheart plea deal by providing information' to the government, FBI reports confirm.

A federal investigation into the pedophile led by the FBI was closed out on September 18, 2008 when Epstein 'provided information to the FBI as agreed upon' according to the case agent.

That investigation had been underway for two years at that point, but it was noted in the final report that 'no prosecution will occur in this matter as long as Epstein continues to uphold his agreement with the State of Florida.'

The investigation had been dormant for seven months by then, with FBI records obtained by DailyMail.com showing that the lead agent had not filed a report since February 11 at the time he closed the case.

That February report notes that 'that the criminal investigation into activities of Jeffrey Epstein is ongoing,' and that the case agent had been told the matter was 'highly sensitive' by the United States Attorney's Office.

This There was a 53-page indictment that the federal agents were prepared to bring to a grand jury at that time, and the asset forfeiture investigator had met with Assistant US Attorney Antonia J Barnes several times. Epstein was spared from future forfeiture as well, as noted in the report that closed out the case.

EPSTEIN'S INFO ON BEAR STEARNS EXECS

It has been reported that Epstein got his light sentence in part because of information he traded on Bear Stearns hedge fund managers Ralph Cioffi and Matthew Tannin. The two men had bet very heavily on the Florida housing market, and found themselves with a target on their backs when the subprime market started to implode. The SEC settled with the men and suspended them from the securities industry while the government launched a federal case. Eopstein was said to have given information by some, though others have questioned what information he would have been able to give in the case. In the end, both men were acquitted.

It is unclear when Epstein spoke with agents, as no one registered with the FBI signed into see him once he began serving his time in July.

One source told DailyMail.com that Epstein was using his assistant Story Cowles to serve as his emissary at this time, and prison records obtained by DailyMail.com do show that the young man visited Epstein almost every single day prior to his being granted work release. Cowles would arrive in the morning on most days, stay for a few hours and then leave around lunch time.

He would then return a second time and leave again around 7pm, generally logging six or seven hours in jail each day as a result, despite he himself having committed no crime.

Epstein tried to hide his association with Cowles by having him sign in as a paralegal, as only lawyers and a doctor were among the 20 approved visitors at the jail.

Epstein also managed to get what was a two-year sentence in the non-prosecution agreement cut down to 18 months, and in the end was released 13 months after he reported to the Palm Beach Barracks. was five months after Epstein signed his non-prosecution agreement, but four months before it would be presented in court during his sentencing on two charges related to solicitation of a minor.

Epstein relied on a network of high school students to provide him with many of the two to three girls he needed for his daily 'massages' at the time of his arrest.

Incidents reports and probable cause affidavits filed by members of the Palm Beach Police Department during their 2005 investigation do not name any of these women with the exception of one - Haley Robson.

She was a student at Royal Palm High School when she herself was recruited to give Epstein a massage, but when he started to molest her she objected to being touched by the pedophile, who worked out another deal with the teenager.

Epstein informed Robson that she would be paid $200 for every girl she brought in, an offer the student could not refuse.

It is unclear if she even knew what she was doing was illegal, with the 19-year-old college student wrapping up one police interview by boasting: 'I'm like Heidi Fleiss.'

That remark came after she willingly provided police with the names and ages of all the girls she had bought to Epstein, thus implicating herself in a number of crimes.

Robson told police she had provided Epstein with at least six girls over a two-year period, with the youngest being 14 and the oldest a 23-year-old woman.

She said that she was chided for the latter, with Epstein informing her the woman was too old.

Robson did not groom the victims, who were mostly her classmates, and was instead very straightforward about what was going to happen once the girls were alone with Epstein.

'During a sworn taped interview, SG stated that Haley Robson, a cousin of SG's boyfriend and classmate at Royal Palm Beach High School worked for a wealthy man and did sexual favors for him,' reads a probable cause affidavit obtained by DailyMail.com.

'She also admitted that Robson had offered her an opportunity to make money. During the beginning of the month of February 2005, SG explained that she was first approached by Robson to go with her to Epstein’s house.'

The victim was 14 at the time, while Haley was 18.

The parents of SG learned what had happened however after a fight at school, and soon after contacted police thus launching the criminal investigation.

With parental consent, SG then contacted Robson as police recorded the call.

'SG spoke with Robson in an attempt to arrange another meeting with Epstein, SG asked Robson, what did she need to do to make more money,' reads the affidavit.

'Robson stated, "the more you do, the more you get paid."

That call was in April, but it was not until October that police questioned Robson.

She is remarkably forthcoming in her interviews with police, and the affidavit suggests she willingly volunteered all information she had about Epstein and her role in proving minors.

Robson also revealed to police that she too was a victim.

'I began the interview by asking Robson how she became acquainted with Epstein. Robson stated that approximately two years ago, just after she turned 17 years of age, she was approached by a friend named Molly at the Canopy Beach Resort in Rivera Beach,' notes the affidavit.

'Robson was asked if she wanted to make money. She was told she would have to provide a massage and should make $200.00. Robson thought about the offer and agreed to meet with Jeffrey.'

Things changed however once she got in the room with Epstein, and explains why Robson never hid what was going to happen when the girls she was providing were alone with the pedophile.

'Jeff entered the bedroom wearing only a towel. He removed the towel and laid nude on the massage table. He laid on the table onto his stomach and picked a massage oil for Robson to rub on him,' reads the affidavit.

'During the massage, Robson stated "He tried to touch me and I stopped him ." I asked how he tried to touch her. Robson stated that Epstein grabbed her buttocks and she felt uncomfortable. Robson told Epstein I'll massage you but I don’t want to be touched. Robson stated she performed the massage naked.'

That is when Epstein offered to pay her if she brought girls, which she did, providing six between the ages of 14 and 16 to Epstein, plus the seventh woman he rejected for being too old.

Robson provided police with the name and addresses of each girl, and seems to truly believe she was helping them by setting up these appointments with Epstein.

'Robson stated every girl she brought knew what to expect when they arrived. They were told they would provide a massage, possibly naked, and allow some touching,' states the affidavit.

'I asked her if SG was aware. She stated every girl she brought knew what to expect She explained she knew that SG wanted to make money. She approached SG and explained about going to work for Jeff, SG agreed and arrangements were made to bring her to Epstein’s house on a weekend.'

Robson stopped speaking to Epstein after arranging that February appointment with SG, though it is unclear if that was of her own fruition or fear of arrest.

She was set to be charged with Lewd and Lascivious Act on a victim under 16 in the second degree, but ultimately avoided charges.

Police did not name any of the other students and Robson has now become linked to Epstein despite only meeting the man a handful of times.

She could again become a key witness in the new trial too, as she and Epstein's longtime assistant Sarah Kellen would speak by phone according to police prior to Epstein's arrival in Palm Beach.

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Sulli915 , St Louis, United States, about 6 hours ago

Just what information was he giving to the FBI ; who, what and was anyone prosecuted as a result of the information?

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yawn claud van damn , San Francisco, United States, about 6 hours ago

Boys club protecting its own again!

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Biggerpictureman , Traveler , United States, about 6 hours ago

The victims should be able to sue anyone involved in that plea deal. Where is the protection for the victims?

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Ruth , Michigan, United States, about 6 hours ago

Very sad when we don't believe much of what the FBI says and what they do and don't do.

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AliceAlive , Los Angeles, United States, about 6 hours ago

The Federal Bureau Of Idiots

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Nick , Basingstoke, United Kingdom, about 6 hours ago

The FBI has a LOT to answer for at the moment. Not the rank and file FBI agents ... the so-called "leadership".

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graciebbythesea , Oceanside, United States, about 6 hours ago

This is bad. Money allowed this man to slip thru all the cracks and do what he pleased with young girls. Horrible and beyond scary.

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don.dixon , Delta, United States, about 6 hours ago

To inform them of what??? Of who?

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Wldflwr , Middle Earth, United States, about 7 hours ago

Wow

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MaxHat , Fairfield, United States, about 7 hours ago

I don't care who is involved in all of this but everyone who is should be imprisoned for life. Absolutely ridiculous that this guy has been doing this for years and no one stopped him.

[Jul 31, 2019] Lawmaker says she was warned to back off Jeffrey Epstein case 'Little girl, you don't know what you're getting into' Tampa B

Jul 31, 2019 | www.tampabay.com

Last Friday, Bradshaw announced the internal affairs investigation after reports emerged that Epstein -- while on work release in Palm Beach -- was allowed female visitors to his office, including at least one visit that led to a sexual encounter. The terms of Epstein's incarceration were detailed by the Herald as part of a series published last year about Epstein's case, Perversion of Justice.

Jack Scarola, who represents several of Epstein's victims, said it is ludicrous to think that Bradshaw is able to investigate his own department.

"The allegations are against the sheriff and there's no way a credible investigation can be conducted by the sheriff's office when the allegations extend to the very top of the organization,'' Scarola said.

Book, whose father, Ron Book, is perhaps the most powerful lobbyist in Florida, said she intends to pressure the governor for a full and thorough investigation.

"The privileges that Epstein received in Palm Beach County were outside the scope of what anyone else would receive. We need an independent body to identify whether this was an issue of individual failures or systemic failures. And if it was an individual failure, we need to hold those individuals accountable,'' she said.

Bradshaw, who is running for his fifth term, wields tremendous power in Palm Beach, where the agency has also been the lead law enforcement detail assisting the Secret Service during President Donald Trump's visits to Mar-a-Lago. The Palm Beach Sheriff's Office spent $5.6 million for Trump's 2017-2018 trips, the Palm Beach Post reported in April. The department is reimbursed for the work.

Epstein was found on the floor of his jail cell with injuries to his neck, according to a report from NBC New York late Wednesday.

The television station said another inmate had been questioned and that Epstein is on suicide watch. A source told CBS News the injuries were not life threatening. The New York Post reported that Epstein was taken to a nearby hospital and may have intentionally hurt himself in order to win a transfer out of the federal facility.

Quoting unnamed law enforcement officials, The New York Times said prison officials were treating the incident, which left Epstein with "bruising around the neck," as a possible suicide attempt.

The jet-setting financier was denied bail last week after a federal judge said he posed a danger to young women. His lawyers have filed their intent to appeal, saying he should be released to his palatial Upper East Side Manhattan townhouse.

Epstein, who has pleaded not guilty, roamed the halls of power before dozens of underage girls accused him of sexual assaults. After preparing a 50-plus-page indictment on sex trafficking charges, the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of Florida shelved the charges and allowed Epstein to plead guilty to minor charges in state court. That's how Epstein ended up in the Palm Beach County Jail -- and then on work release approved by Sheriff Bradshaw.

[Jul 31, 2019] The Next Chapter of the Epstein Story

Jul 26, 2019 | www.nytimes.com

The Next Chapter of the Epstein Story
Ghislaine Maxwell, the financier's longtime companion, has been accused of participating in
his abuses. Thousands of sealed records involving her may soon be released.
Hosted by Michael Barbara, produced by Adizah Eghan and Theo Balcomb, and edited by Lisa Tobin

[Jul 31, 2019] Epstein, charged in July with sexual trafficking of girls as young as 14, was a prolific liar and manipulator

This story might get more interesting when the names of his powerful protectors and clients are released.
Jul 31, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

As the Times goes on to note, even after his 2008 conviction on charges of soliciting prostitution from a minor, Epstein was able to ingratiate himself with the scientific community , attracting a "glittering array of prominent scientists."

They included the Nobel Prize-winning physicist Murray Gell-Mann, who discovered the quark; the theoretical physicist and best-selling author Stephen Hawking ; the paleontologist and evolutionary biologist Stephen J. Gould; Oliver Sacks, the neurologist and best-selling author; George M. Church, a molecular engineer who has worked to identify genes that could be altered to create superior humans; and the M.I.T. theoretical physicist Frank Wilczek, a Nobel laureate. - New York Times

Scientists had regular parties at Epstein's Manhattan mansion, drinking Dom Pérignon and other expensive libations. The wealthy financier also hosted buffet lunchest at Harvard's Program for Evolutionary Dynamics - to which he contributed $6.5 million in order to get it off the ground.

Harvard cognitive psychologist Steven Pinker says he was invited to "salons and coffee klatsches" at which Epstein would 'hold court.'

While some of Mr. Pinker's peers hailed Mr. Epstein as brilliant, Mr. Pinker described him as an "intellectual impostor."

"He would abruptly change the subject, A.D.D.-style, dismiss an observation with an adolescent wisecrack," Mr. Pinker said.

Another scientist cultivated by Mr. Epstein, Jaron Lanier, a prolific author who is a founding father of virtual reality, said that Mr. Epstein's ideas did not amount to science, in that they did not lend themselves to rigorous proof. Mr. Lanier said Mr. Epstein had once hypothesized that atoms behaved like investors in a marketplace.

Mr. Lanier said he had declined any funding from Mr. Epstein and that he had met with him only once after Mr. Epstein's 2008 guilty plea. - New York Times

bloofer , 8 minutes ago link

So.... Epstein lied " in an effort to worm his way into the 'upper echelons of society.' "

So the "upper echelons of society" include Lanier, "the virtual-reality creator and author," two unnamed "award winning" scientists, and one unnamed "advisor" to large companies and wealthy individuals.

So, what "awards" did these unnamed scientists win? Employee of the Month, entitling them to a reserved parking space for a week? As for "advisor," ****, I can claim to be an advisor to wealthy individuals. ("Trust me. Go with the pink toenail polish.") I have also from time to time offered my advice to large companies. ("Go **** yourself.")

Further, Epstein didn't "worm his way" into anything. His mode of operation was apparently to entice/entrap his "victims" and keep them on a short leash forever after.

This whole piece is one of the most transparently disingenuous things I've ever read. They make the guy sound like he was waiting tables in SoHo and social climbing (apparently among people of little or no importance) to try to get a part in an off-Broadway production--by telling funny stories.

[Jul 31, 2019] Epstein In Danger Of Being Murdered By Powerful People Before His Trial, Says Victims' Lawyer

Jul 31, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Kuvin speculated whether Epstein would "survive" to make his upcoming trial, comparing the situation to the 1959 Profumo affair, where socialite Stephen Ward was put on trial for procuring young women for the British elite but killed himself before the verdict was announced.

"We know that Mr Ward, who was involved in that affair and the procurement of women for some notable people, was given bail and committed suicide while out on bail – so it'll be interesting to see whether or not Mr Epstein attempts again to get out on bail and if he does whether he survives between now and the date of his trial," said Kuvin.

The lawyer also noted that Eyes Wide Shut-style sex parties attended by masked men had been taking place for over 50 years


flacorps , 50 seconds ago link

Why does the author omit the word "Clintons"?

Lavrov , 22 minutes ago link

I wonder what bet makers odds are on Epstein (untimely up coming (Arkancide)

Nature_Boy_Wooooo , 17 minutes ago link

Too obvious. They'll probably find some brother in prison to inject him with the AIDS and then let him die with poor healthcare. Probably delay the trial a few times until he is dead

Sick , 35 minutes ago link

Has a court date been set for this sicko?

Mouldy , 38 minutes ago link

Must be one hellova dead-man-switch this guy has.

[Jul 31, 2019] The fact that Epstein voluntarily turned himself in and that he's not sitting in a safe-house suggests that he sensed the danger of being eliminated unless jailed

Jul 31, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Sick , 39 minutes ago link

Has Epstein ever been to Planet Ping Pong Pizza?

ZionDon , 16 minutes ago link

He probably supplies the toppings.

Betrayed , 1 hour ago link

Anyone who buys the narrative that's been promoted need to learn the value of skepticism.

The fact that Epstein voluntarily turned himself in and that he's not sitting in a luxury mossad safe-house in IsraHell, should be a obvious red flag that a hell of a lot more is going on that (((They))) are going to keep hidden.

This is all about having the screws to turn to get the behavior and control on those they own.

Clintons,

Trumpenstein,

Etc.

Obamaroid Ointment , 1 hour ago link

If Oberführer Müeller can get Whitey whacked in a Fed pen the Clinton Foundation will have no problem Arkansiding Epstain in the Manhattan lockup or Riker's

Obamaroid Ointment , 1 hour ago link

Seth Rich unavailable for comment.

Mah_Authoritah , 1 hour ago link

When we met in 1986, Epstein's double identity intrigued me -- he said he didn't just manage money for clients with mega-fortunes, he was also a high-level bounty hunter.

Sometimes, he told me, he worked for governments to recover money looted by African dictators. Other times those dictators hired him to help them hide their stolen money.

https://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/the-night-before-my-marriage-jeffrey-epstein-propositioned-my-wife-to-be/

[Jul 30, 2019] Recent articles on the Epstein case

Jul 30, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

Mina , Jul 30 2019 6:11 utc | 69

Recent articles on the Epstein case listed here
https://twitter.com/VickyPJWard

Mina , Jul 30 2019 6:21 utc | 70

Money laundering and a Pakistani on the board for... Gulf connections?
https://nypost.com/2019/07/27/feds-probe-socialites-mysterious-ocean-charity-over-links-to-jeffrey-epstein/

[Jul 29, 2019] Evidence has emerged that the US State Department is tied to a child trafficking operation involving billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein.

Notable quotes:
"... Evidence has emerged that the U.S. State Department is tied to a child trafficking operation involving Billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. shared the tail number of his Bell Long Ranger 206L3 helicopter (tail number N474AW) with a U.S. State Department OV-10D Bronco ..."
"... . Descriptions of sex between adult males and underage females by XXX company employees in Bosnia in the 2000-2002 time frame coincides with descriptions of sex . on .. aircraft and [at] residences in Palm Beach, Florida; New Mexico; and on the island of Little Saint James in the U.S. Virgin Islands. Among the "Jane Does" filing suit against the U.S. government for concluding can anyone get the details of these suits? ..."
"... So so disgusting. First there was the catholic church pedophile scandal. Then there is the Epstein scandal ..."
Jul 23, 2019 | www.unz.com

sally , says: July 23, 2019 at 8:22 am GMT

https://friendsforsyria.com/2019/07/21/u-s-state-department-tied-to-child-trafficking-operation-with-epstein/

according to this article ..the following

Evidence has emerged that the U.S. State Department is tied to a child trafficking operation involving Billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. shared the tail number of his Bell Long Ranger 206L3 helicopter (tail number N474AW) with a U.S. State Department OV-10D Bronco. According to the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) registration database. Descriptions of sex between adult males and underage females by XXX company employees in Bosnia in the 2000-2002 time frame coincides with descriptions of sex . on .. aircraft and [at] residences in Palm Beach, Florida; New Mexico; and on the island of Little Saint James in the U.S. Virgin Islands. Among the "Jane Does" filing suit against the U.S. government for concluding can anyone get the details of these suits?

mcohen , says: July 23, 2019 at 9:20 am GMT

So so disgusting. First there was the catholic church pedophile scandal. Then there is the Epstein scandal

... ... ...

Everything is broken.Time to call in the plumbers

[Jul 29, 2019] Looks like Epstein turned informant for Mueller s FBI in 2008. Likely earlier

Highly recommended!
Did Mueller done this at the request of Clintons?
Notable quotes:
"... That was while Robert Mueller ran the Bureau, which means everything about Epstein's blackmail and kompromat operation has been tucked safely away out of sight in FBI files for at least a decade. Much longer, new evidence shows. ..."
"... *CIA Acknowledged in 2003, It Knew that Ghislaine Maxwell's Late Father was a Major Foreign Intelligence Agent Operating Inside the U.S. ..."
"... That Robert Maxwell was a ruthless, corrupt, tax-dodging international businessman who served as an Israeli agent is highly probable. ..."
"... For the first time, Maxwell had failed to get his own way. He started to threaten and bluster. He then demanded that, for past services, he should receive immediately a quick fix of £400million to bale him out of his financial difficulties. ..."
"... Instead of providing the money, a small group of Mossad officers set about planning his murder. They feared that he was going to publicly expose all Mossad had done in the time he worked for them. They knew that he was gradually becoming mentally unstable and paranoid. He was taking a cocktail of drugs - Halcion and Zanax - which had serious side effects. ..."
"... Then Maxwell was contacted. He was told to fly to Gibraltar, go aboard the Lady Ghislaine and sail to the Canary Islands. There at sea he would receive his £400million quick fix in the form of a banker's draft. Maxwell did as he was told. ..."
"... As Victor Ostrovsky, a former Mossad agent told us: "On that cold night Mossad's problems with Robert Maxwell were over." ..."
"... The incontrovertible facts about his murder are contained in a previously-unseen autopsy report by Britain's then-leading forensic pathologist Dr Iain West and Israel State Pathologist Dr Yehuda Hiss. Of all the documents in our possession, these reports confirm the truth about Maxwell's death. ..."
"... Boy that Mueller has had a busy career hasn't he? Didn't he start out in Chicago where he gave Whitey Bulgar cover for being a mob boss? Then there's his cover up before and after 9/11. The weapons of mass destruction that he said Saddam had. The anthrax prosecution, Epstein's pedophilia cover up, HSBC and now he is trying to cover Hillary's buttocks. And maybe Obama's? I'm sure I've missed a few things that he did or didn't do. ..."
"... Acosta was told to stand down by someone at the top of the food chain. Mueller. Ugh what a slimy piece of work he is. But not to the Russia Gaters. Oh no. "He is a highly decorated marine who takes no guff from anyone. ..."
"... In that time, he had free access to Margaret Thatcher's Downing Street, to Ronald Reagan's White House, to the Kremlin and to the corridors of power throughout Europe. ..."
"... Inquiring minds want to know did Maxwell have access to Margaret and Ron because they liked him or because he had something on them? ..."
"... Epstein is the destruction of the Deep State. ..."
"... That pedophelia and politics scandal, better known as the Franklin Coverup, made the papers for a few months, too, before it was made to go away. Similarly, a couple of the operators served some time on reduced charges after that one. ..."
"... The two main suspects in the Bush, Sr. White House child ring were Craig Spence and Lawrence E. King Jr. King sang the National anthem at two GOP national conventions. He served time in jail for bank fraud. Spence was a Republican lobbyist before he committed suicide. Several of his partners went to jail for being involved in the adult part of the homosexual prostitution ring. ..."
"... Mueller's scrupulous avoidance of the CIA link in his prosecution of Manuel Noriega and his diversion of the PanAm 103 bombing and framing of two Libyans. Bobby Mueller has been a real go to guy when the security establishment needs a phony investigation. ..."
"... Bobby Mueller has been a real go to guy when the security establishment needs a phony investigation. ..."
"... The anthrax investigation is the most serious of his crimes. Mueller is being sued by his lead investigator in that case. ..."
"... Every now and then, here and there the curtain lifts for a moment and the political elite of a country, the business elite, the spy services, the military, and organized crime are revealed to be all working together, indeed practically joined at the hip ..."
"... partnership started during the early Cold War with US intelligence officers facilitating the drug trade out of Turkey and Burma through Europe. That soon spread to the Americas and globally. Covert operations such as Gladio, Condor, and the Safari Club, and associated banks (Franklin National Bank, BCCI, Riggs Bank, HSBC, etc.) produced massive human rights violations, transnational terrorism and governmental corruption. The CIA's secret wars provided funds and official cover for private-public sector alliance of criminals, bankers and spooks around the world. ..."
"... The CIA, MI6 and Mossad ran overlapping coordinated operations using privateers, paramilitaries and organized crime networks that consumed vast amounts of cash generated by money laundering mechanisms. Enriched by the looting of the former Soviet Union, along with the infusion of Arab oil money (the Saudi Yamamah slush fund), the "Octopus" became the instrument of Oligarchs that have thoroughly corrupted western governments and secret services. ..."
"... The Snowden release included a number of documents that illustrate the on-line entrapment and political disruption activities run by the two main communications intelligence agencies. ..."
"... Epstein recruits young girls, throws parties where he invites potential hedge fund clients, lets nature take its course and films the proceedings, extracts blackmail in the form of investments to his (largely fake) hedge fund, which actually just buys an index fund (no actual fund management required). He takes a percentage from the coerced investments. Nobody talks because they have too much to lose. No suspicious payments to raise eyebrows at the IRS. ..."
"... Epstein brought in the clients. The CIA/MI-6/Mossad provided necessary cover from the FBI and local cops - then, three or four agencies shared the intelligence take, as they had for decades from Robert Maxwell's operations. ..."
"... For Ghislaine, it was simply carrying on the family business for fun and profit. For the spooks, it was business as usual going back to the Green House, the Berlin bordello founded in the the 1870s by Wilhelm Steiber, a Prussian Police section chief, to provide useful intelligence to Bismarck's Military Intelligence, which he reorganized. ..."
"... Epstein is also well acquainted with University President Lawrence H. Summers. The two serve together on the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations, two elite international relations organizations. ..."
"... Epstein's relationships within the academy are remarkable since the tycoon, who has amassed his fortune by managing the wealth of billionaires from his private Caribbean island, does not hold a bachelor's degree. ..."
"... There's a rocky road ahead for Larry Summers. Summers introduces Epstein into the Harvard fold, but becomes reckless with his newly-refined Neoliberalism and his opinions concerning "lady scholars." ..."
Jul 11, 2019 | caucus99percent.com

leveymg on Thu, 07/11/2019 - 11:30am

That was while Robert Mueller ran the Bureau, which means everything about Epstein's blackmail and kompromat operation has been tucked safely away out of sight in FBI files for at least a decade. Much longer, new evidence shows.

For those who may have wondered why Epstein was given such an incredible deal in sentencing, that explains it. Epstein was an extraordinary value informant, and he leveraged it. https://truepundit.com/fbi-pedophile-jeffrey-epstein-was-informant-for-m...

A figure who often gets overlooked in this is Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein's chief procurer of underage girls. Ghislaine, the daughter of publishing magnate Robert Maxwell, was granted immunity and never charged in exchange for her own cooperation in the 2008 pseudo-prosecution. https://heavy.com/news/2019/03/ghislaine-maxwell/ ; https://pagesix.com/2016/03/17/alleged-epstein-madam-forced-to-hand-over...

The real question is, why did the FBI wait for more than a decade to bust Epstein and Maxwell?

Epstein and Maxwell came to the attention of the FBI in 1996, when, curiously, the Bureau never acted on an accusation that they had together sexually abused a 15 year old girl in a bedroom inside Epstein's Manhattan townhouse. Documents in a recent law suit filed by an alleged victim, Maria Farmer, show that the FBI had been aware of Epstein and Maxwell's child abuse activities in New York for at least a dozen years before Epstein was finally charged in 2008 with much-reduced Florida state offenses. https://www.yourtango.com/2019323698/who-maria-farmer-latest-woman-accus...

Farmer claims she reported her sexual assault to New York police and the FBI in 1996. "To my knowledge, I was the first person to report Maxwell and Epstein to the FBI," she wrote in her affidavit."

*CIA Acknowledged in 2003, It Knew that Ghislaine Maxwell's Late Father was a Major Foreign Intelligence Agent Operating Inside the U.S.

Previously, Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine's father, had for many years been known to have been involved in high-level espionage in the United States, as detailed in a 2003 publication of the CIA Center for the Study of Intelligence, The Intelligence Officer's Bookshelf . Therein, the CIA reviewer of a biography by British author Gordon Thomas acknowledged about Maxwell: https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-pub...

That Robert Maxwell was a ruthless, corrupt, tax-dodging international businessman who served as an Israeli agent is highly probable.

For the deeper background to the Epstein-Maxwell multinational blackmail, coverup and kompromat operation, we have to look at the events that led up to the 1991 death of Robert Maxwell. A summary of the Maxwell bio by its authors recounts:

British Publisher Robert Maxwell
Was Mossad Spy
By Gordon Thomas And Martin Dillon
The Mirror - UK
12-6-2002
[ . . .]
Eleven years after former Daily Mirror owner Robert Maxwell plunged from his luxury yacht to a watery grave, his death still arouses intense interest.

Many different theories have circulated about what really happened on board the Lady Ghislaine that night in May 1991.

[ . . . ]

The Jewish millionaire and former Labour MP [born Ludvik Hoch
in Czechoslovakia] died the way he had lived - threatening.

He had threatened his wife. Threatened his children. Threatened the staff of this newspaper.

But finally he issued one threat too many - he threatened Mossad.

He told them that unless they gave him £400million to save his crumbling empire, he would expose all he had done for them.

In that time, he had free access to Margaret Thatcher's Downing Street, to Ronald Reagan's White House, to the Kremlin and to the corridors of power throughout Europe.

On top of that he had built himself a position of power within the crime families of eastern Europe, teaching them how to funnel their vast wealth from drugs, arms smuggling and prostitution to banks in safe havens around the globe.

Maxwell passed on all the secrets he learned to Mossad in Tel Aviv. In turn, they tolerated his excesses, vanities and insatiable appetite for a luxurious lifestyle and women.

He told his controllers who they should target and how they should do it. He appointed himself as Israel's unofficial ambassador to the Soviet Bloc. Mossad saw the advantage in that.

[ . . . ]

The more successful Maxwell became the more risks he took and the more dangerous he was to Mossad. At the same time, the very public side of Maxwell, who then owned 400 companies, began to unwind.

He spent lavishly and lost money on deals. The more he lost, the more he tried to claw money from the banks. Then he saw a way out of his problems.

He was approached by Vladimir Kryuchkov, head of the KGB. Spymaster and tycoon met in the utmost secrecy in the Kremlin.

Kryuchkov had an extraordinary proposal. He wanted Maxwell to help orchestrate the overthrow of Mikhail Gorbachev, the reformist Soviet leader. That would bring to an end a fledgling democracy and a return to the Cold War days.

In return, Maxwell's massive debts would be wiped out by a grateful Kryuchkov, who planned to replace Gorbachev. The KGB chief wanted Maxwell to use the Lady Ghislaine, named after Maxwell's daughter, as a meeting place between the Russian plotters, Mossad chiefs and Israel's top politicians.

The plan was for the Israelis to go to Washington and say that democracy could not work in Russia and that it was better to allow the country to return to a modified form of communism, which America could help to control. In return, Kryuchkov would guarantee to free hundreds of thousands of Jews and dissidents in the Soviet republics.

Kryuchkov told Maxwell that he would be seen as a saviour of all those Jews. It was a proposal he could not refuse. But when he put it to his Mossad controllers they were horrified. They said Israel would have no part in such a madcap plan.

For the first time, Maxwell had failed to get his own way. He started to threaten and bluster. He then demanded that, for past services, he should receive immediately a quick fix of £400million to bale him out of his financial difficulties.

Instead of providing the money, a small group of Mossad officers set about planning his murder. They feared that he was going to publicly expose all Mossad had done in the time he worked for them. They knew that he was gradually becoming mentally unstable and paranoid. He was taking a cocktail of drugs - Halcion and Zanax - which had serious side effects.

The group of Mossad plotters sensed, like Solomon, he could bring their temple tumbling down and cause incalculable harm to Israel. The plan to kill him was prepared in the utmost secrecy. A four-man squad was briefed.

Then Maxwell was contacted. He was told to fly to Gibraltar, go aboard the Lady Ghislaine and sail to the Canary Islands. There at sea he would receive his £400million quick fix in the form of a banker's draft. Maxwell did as he was told.

On the night of November 4, 1991, the Lady Ghislaine, one of the world's biggest yachts, was at sea.

[ . . . ]

As Victor Ostrovsky, a former Mossad agent told us: "On that cold night Mossad's problems with Robert Maxwell were over."

The incontrovertible facts about his murder are contained in a previously-unseen autopsy report by Britain's then-leading forensic pathologist Dr Iain West and Israel State Pathologist Dr Yehuda Hiss. Of all the documents in our possession, these reports confirm the truth about Maxwell's death.

Gordon Thomas & Martin Dillon are authors of The Assassination of Robert Maxwell: Israel's Super Spy, published by Robson Books.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=12419168&method=f...

The obvious question, why did the U.S. government let these intelligence crimes continue for decades, isn't being asked. The answer is almost self-evident. Information and leverage obtained by Maxwell-Epstein and Co. was far too valuable to its several operators to let it all end too soon.

###

Linda Wood on Thu, 07/11/2019 - 12:45pm
Two parts of your reporting

leap out at me as suggesting how Epstein connects to much bigger subjects. First is the assertion that Maxwell was

... teaching them how to funnel their vast wealth from drugs, arms smuggling and prostitution to banks in safe havens around the globe.

This area of trafficking and money laundering directly connects to Mueller and his essential exoneration of HSBC .

The other quotation that suggests the importance of money laundering is here:

The plan was for the Israelis to go to Washington and say that democracy could not work in Russia and that it was better to allow the country to return to a modified form of communism, which America could help to control.

The life's work of Antony Sutton at Stanford's Hoover Institution shows that American industry was ALWAYS controlling communism as well as Soviet industrial development, and that a trend toward social democracy, represented by Gorbachev, would have put an end to that control.

leveymg on Thu, 07/11/2019 - 4:29pm
Curiously, the CIA review of the Maxwell bio doesn't touch on

@Linda Wood his money laundering and blackmailing activities. While the review confirms that Robert Maxwell was for decades a major Mossad agent actively setting up operations and cover in the United States and the UK, I can only surmise that the spreading political influence of Eastern European organized crime networks and child honey traps are things that the Agency didn't want to discuss publicly in 2003.

As for Mueller, let's not forget that he was FBI Director and before that the head of the Criminal Division at Main Justice at the time that global "black finance" grew along with the catastrophic spread of multinational crime and terrorism. BCCI, Iran-Contra, 9/11, and the rise of transnational Oligarchs happened on his watch. As the Chief Law Enforcement Officer in the United States at the time, it is hard to imagine anyone more responsibility for the ultimate consequences than Robert Mueller. There is perhaps someone who bears ultimate responsibility, the President who appointed Mueller: George Herbert Walker Bush and his lesser son, Shrub, who promoted him.

Pluto's Republic on Fri, 07/12/2019 - 5:21pm
From your own research

@leveymg

... wouldn't you assume that this entire affair is an ongoing Mossad operation, which may or may not have concluded? The US IC is just another operative inside the envelope, but Mossad owns the assets and the intellectual property. I think we could assume that some of this is automated and Mossad has ongoing leverage still in play.

The obvious question, why did the U.S. government let these intelligence crimes continue for decades, isn't being asked. The answer is almost self-evident. Information and leverage obtained by Maxwell-Epstein and Co. was far too valuable to its several operators to let it all end too soon.

.

Mossad's legendary blackmail traps ensnared even high-level deep state authorities and made them pliable. The recent history of United States foreign policy is an enigma that can only be solved when that assumption is inserted. Once the assumption is in place, it opens like a Pandora's box. Don't you find that to be the case?

Thanks for compiling this revealing argument.

Deja on Thu, 07/11/2019 - 11:03pm
HSBC?

@Linda Wood
From your link:

In a recent investigation I presented the case that British banking and financial giant HSBC conspired with banking institutions with documented links to terrorist financing, including those responsible for helping bankroll the 9/11 attacks.

Thank you for the link!

Linda Wood on Thu, 07/11/2019 - 1:11pm
HSBC article

linked here does not mention Mueller but does outline the crimes Mueller worked so hard not to solve:

http://antifascist-calling.blogspot.com/2012/07/black-dossier-hsbc-terro...

SUNDAY, JULY 29, 2012
Black Dossier: HSBC & Terrorist Finance

Moral equivalencies abound. After all, when American secret state agencies manage drug flows or direct terrorist proxies to attack official enemies it's not quite the same as battling terror or crime.

Pounding home that point, a new report by the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations accused HSBC of exposing "the U.S. financial system to a wide array of money laundering, drug trafficking, and terrorist financing risks due to poor anti-money laundering (AML) controls."

That 335-page report, "U.S. Vulnerabilities to Money Laundering, Drugs, and Terrorist Financing: HSBC Case History," (large pdf file available here ) was issued after a year-long Senate investigation zeroed-in on the bank's U.S. affiliate, HSBC Bank USA, N.A., better known as HBUS.

Drilling down, we learned that amongst the "services" offered by HSBC subsidiaries and correspondent banks were sweet deals with financial entities with terrorist ties; the transportation of billions of dollars in cash by plane and armored car through their London Banknotes division; the clearing of sequentially-numbered travelers checks through dodgy Cayman Islands accounts for Mexican drug lords and Russian mafiosi.

From richly-appointed suites at Canary Wharf, London, the bank's "smartest guys in the room" handed some of the most violent gangsters on earth the financial wherewithal to organize their respective industries: global crime.

A case in point. In 2008 alone the Senate revealed that the bank's Cayman Islands branch handled some 50,000 client accounts (all without benefit of offices or staff on Grand Cayman, mind you), yet still managed to ship some $7 billion (£10.9bn) in cash from Mexico into the U.S. Now that's creative accounting!...

Alligator Ed on Thu, 07/11/2019 - 10:49pm
Thank you, Linda

@Linda Wood HSBC, huh--there must be some clever name for it, which deserves no research.
what an eloquent article you presented. Brief but right on target. It isn't just sex, drugs and rock and roll. Now it is drugs - money -sexual perversion--and perhaps worse? Rumors are flying about what video on the Weiner laptop showed. It is strictly heresay, but a core of folks seem to believe the suspicions are possible.

snoopydawg on Thu, 07/11/2019 - 8:48pm
Boy that Mueller has had a busy career hasn't he? Didn't he start out in Chicago where he gave Whitey Bulgar cover for being a mob boss? Then there's his cover up before and after 9/11. The weapons of mass destruction that he said Saddam had. The anthrax prosecution, Epstein's pedophilia cover up, HSBC and now he is trying to cover Hillary's buttocks. And maybe Obama's? I'm sure I've missed a few things that he did or didn't do.

Acosta is saying that if he hadn't made the plea deal then Epstein would never have served any time in prison. Well he actually only slept there since he got to leave every day for work and then there's the massages he got after his busy day at work. But there were more than 80 pages that the Feds wrote on his escapades so I think that story he told congress is true. Acosta was told to stand down by someone at the top of the food chain. Mueller. Ugh what a slimy piece of work he is. But not to the Russia Gaters. Oh no. "He is a highly decorated marine who takes no guff from anyone.

In that time, he had free access to Margaret Thatcher's Downing Street, to Ronald Reagan's White House, to the Kremlin and to the corridors of power throughout Europe.

Inquiring minds want to know did Maxwell have access to Margaret and Ron because they liked him or because he had something on them?

Great information! The more I learn the more I need a shower.

Linda Wood on Thu, 07/11/2019 - 9:11pm
That needing a shower thing

@snoopydawg

is how I've been feeling all week from reading about this, just more and more demoralized when I think about the depravation of our so-called "leadership." What is it that we're supposed to think of as the new normal after this behavior?

Alligator Ed on Thu, 07/11/2019 - 10:53pm
Linda, you could shower in my extra long tub

@Linda Wood No problem--but, seriously, yecch! Epstein is the destruction of the Deep State.

leveymg on Fri, 07/12/2019 - 1:02pm
Remember Craig Spence and the 1989 Whitehouse Call Boy Ring?

@snoopydawg

That pedophelia and politics scandal, better known as the Franklin Coverup, made the papers for a few months, too, before it was made to go away. Similarly, a couple of the operators served some time on reduced charges after that one.

The two main suspects in the Bush, Sr. White House child ring were Craig Spence and Lawrence E. King Jr. King sang the National anthem at two GOP national conventions. He served time in jail for bank fraud. Spence was a Republican lobbyist before he committed suicide. Several of his partners went to jail for being involved in the adult part of the homosexual prostitution ring.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/Franklin/FranklinCoverup/l...

Roy Blakeley on Fri, 07/12/2019 - 12:29pm
And let's not forget

@snoopydawg

Mueller's scrupulous avoidance of the CIA link in his prosecution of Manuel Noriega and his diversion of the PanAm 103 bombing and framing of two Libyans. Bobby Mueller has been a real go to guy when the security establishment needs a phony investigation.

Linda Wood on Fri, 07/12/2019 - 1:09pm
Absolutely.

@Roy Blakeley

You sum it up perfectly:

Bobby Mueller has been a real go to guy when the security establishment needs a phony investigation.

The anthrax investigation is the most serious of his crimes. Mueller is being sued by his lead investigator in that case.

Because researchers in our biological weapons labs went public with what they were doing, and where such research was being done in the U.S., we learned the CIA was one of several outfits doing biological weapons research.

But Mueller exonerated all of them, including the CIA, with no explanation and only focused on a lone vaccine researcher at the Army lab when journalists began to ask why no one had been indicted after seven years of investigation, at which point the FBI attempted to harass the suspect into committing suicide.

lotlizard on Fri, 07/12/2019 - 1:44am
Comparable to "Deep State" scandals in Turkey?

Every now and then, here and there the curtain lifts for a moment and the political elite of a country, the business elite, the spy services, the military, and organized crime are revealed to be all working together, indeed practically joined at the hip.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susurluk_scandal

https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/ergenekon-plot-massive-trial-...

leveymg on Sat, 07/13/2019 - 11:08am
Read "Politics of Heroin in SE Asia". The CIA-Mafia-warlord

@lotlizard @lotlizard

partnership started during the early Cold War with US intelligence officers facilitating the drug trade out of Turkey and Burma through Europe. That soon spread to the Americas and globally. Covert operations such as Gladio, Condor, and the Safari Club, and associated banks (Franklin National Bank, BCCI, Riggs Bank, HSBC, etc.) produced massive human rights violations, transnational terrorism and governmental corruption. The CIA's secret wars provided funds and official cover for private-public sector alliance of criminals, bankers and spooks around the world.

This "dark alliance" assumed a political and economic life of its own beyond its original intent to counter communist movements. By the Vietnam War, Agency operators were running most of the heroin trade in the world through proprietary airlines, banks and logistics companies. In the mid-1970s, CIA Director Bush expanded privatization with Saudi funding in his Safari Club deal that eventually morphed into Al Qaeda and ISIS.

The CIA, MI6 and Mossad ran overlapping coordinated operations using privateers, paramilitaries and organized crime networks that consumed vast amounts of cash generated by money laundering mechanisms. Enriched by the looting of the former Soviet Union, along with the infusion of Arab oil money (the Saudi Yamamah slush fund), the "Octopus" became the instrument of Oligarchs that have thoroughly corrupted western governments and secret services.

Multinational honey trap operations such as Maxwell-Epstein & Co. are an inevitable and continuing part of this privatization and criminalization of intelligence that stretches back to the days of Tom Braden and Cord Meyer handing out stacks of greenbacks to Mafiosi on the Corsican Docks.

leveymg on Fri, 07/12/2019 - 11:31am
NSA and GCHQ have gotten into the honeytrap and influence game

@leveymg

The Snowden release included a number of documents that illustrate the on-line entrapment and political disruption activities run by the two main communications intelligence agencies.

"Honey-trap; a great option. Very successful, when it works" (GCHQ, UK training program slide)

https://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2014/05/lots-of-secret-nsa-documents-plu...

The "Information Ops" category is of particular interest to me...

Does this really seem like the sort of thing that would be done only to a jihadist...?

WoodsDweller on Fri, 07/12/2019 - 1:48pm
Here's an interesting take

https://www.alternet.org/2019/07/epstein-was-running-a-blackmail-scheme-...

Without quoting the whole thing (which is worth a read):

Epstein recruits young girls, throws parties where he invites potential hedge fund clients, lets nature take its course and films the proceedings, extracts blackmail in the form of investments to his (largely fake) hedge fund, which actually just buys an index fund (no actual fund management required). He takes a percentage from the coerced investments. Nobody talks because they have too much to lose. No suspicious payments to raise eyebrows at the IRS.

There's no need to invoke the Mafia/Russia/Mossad/CIA/etc, that's just needlessly overfitting.

Except such an operation would be quite attractive to intelligence services. Maybe they were in on the ground floor, maybe they made Epstein an offer he couldn't refuse once they heard about it.

leveymg on Sat, 07/13/2019 - 10:28am
My gut tells me that G. Maxwell provided the Know-how, and

@WoodsDweller

Epstein brought in the clients. The CIA/MI-6/Mossad provided necessary cover from the FBI and local cops - then, three or four agencies shared the intelligence take, as they had for decades from Robert Maxwell's operations.

For Ghislaine, it was simply carrying on the family business for fun and profit. For the spooks, it was business as usual going back to the Green House, the Berlin bordello founded in the the 1870s by Wilhelm Steiber, a Prussian Police section chief, to provide useful intelligence to Bismarck's Military Intelligence, which he reorganized.

Steiber is considered the father of modern espionage. His methods were vastly influential, and he attracted students from London, St. Petersburg to Tokyo. Each put their own national spin on the science of sexual blackmail. As for the Japanese, they are among the most interesting and innovative in their use of a parallel network of privatized intelligence services incorporating underworld Yakuzi groups alongside conventional military intelligence units. Using compromise, they gained and maintained control over Imperial Japan and its Colonies: https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2019/03/15/eastern-peril/

To realize these divinely inspired ambitions, Japan needed a modern espionage system. Adopting the German model, Japanese officials were sent to study under Wilhelm Stieber in the mid-1870s. Over the next decade Japan built up separate army and naval intelligence services, each with an accompanying branch of secret military police (Kempeitai for the army and Tokeitai for the navy). These latter organizations also provided an excellent counter-espionage service. However, where the Japanese were unique was in the use of spies belonging to unofficial secret societies working alongside or independently of the official intelligence agencies. These shadowy institutions were ultra-nationalist by nature, drawing their membership from a cross-section of Japanese society, including the military, politics, industry and Yakuza underworld. Under ruthless leadership, their henchmen would spy on, subvert and corrupt Japan's Far East neighbours.

For more on Steiber and his superior, von Hinckeldey, methods of international counter-insurgency, espionage, and political policing included deception and a forerunner of today's internet surveillance: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2006/11/29/275653/-

While armies are essential to the maintenance of autocracy, the preservation of dynastic rule and the prevention of democracy requires an effective secret police. The suppression of its middle-class constitutionalists [during the 1840s] was followed by the expansion of the Prussian political police under Karl Ludwig Friedrich von Hinckeldey.

Appointed police president of Berlin in late 1848, Hinckeldey was an innovator of many of the features of modern systematic political policing. Among the tactics that he introduced with his new police system in Berlin was the "Litfass columns". Named for Ernst Litfass, Frederick William's court printer, he had dozens of these large poles erected in strategic spots around Berlin. The public posting of political notices was then banned. By application to a state office for a waiver, however, the columns could be used to display messages. The police dutifully recorded the names of all who had applied. A. Richie, Faust's Metropolis: A History of Berlin, New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, 1998 at p.134.

LEGACY OF THE LITFASS COLUMNS: A similar ploy was later adopted by the People's Republic of China. In the mid-1980s, the Communist authorities at first appear to tolerate the operation of a so-called Democracy Wall, where "dissidents" in Beijing could post political writings, initially, without being arrested. Similar walls then sprung up under the noses of the authorities in other Chinese cities. For this apparent opening to democracy, the Deng regime much applauded, particularly by some in the Reagan-Bush Administration, eager to legitimize the regime and its growing commercial ties with U.S. corporations. Eventually, many of those who had availed themselves of the wall to post political messages were, of course, arrested in the roundup of hundreds of thousands of democracy supporters that followed the Tienamen Square massacre. The impression of anonymity and "freedom" conveyed by the Internet, of course, presents a similar opportunity for police to cast a wide net for identifying persons and organizations who may not hold favor for the regime in power, or may not in the future.

Hinckeldey also founded the Police Union, the first recorded international network of counterrevolutionary police spies in modern times. Primarily made up of police officers from Prussia and the German states, the Union operated throughout Europe, Britain and in the United States. The Union was run by his deputy, the notorious police provocateur, Wilhelm Steiber, who would later reorganize the Okhrana along similar lines. Internationally active from 1851-1866, the Police Union, according to Mathieu Deflem, was "one of the first formal initiatives in industrial society to establish an organized police system across national borders."13

I disagree with the Alternet view on this. See, this is the norm. A purely private sexual blackmail ring of any scale would be the historical exception. It certainly wouldn't survive very long.

Pluto's Republic on Fri, 07/12/2019 - 5:45pm
This is a chilling thought I try to avoid.

@leveymg

...authorities at first appear to tolerate the operation of a so-called Democracy Wall, where "dissidents" in Beijing could post political writings.... Similar walls then sprung up under the noses of the authorities in other Chinese cities. Eventually, many of those who had availed themselves of the wall to post political messages were, of course, arrested in the roundup of hundreds of thousands of democracy supporters....

The impression of anonymity and "freedom" conveyed by the Internet, of course, presents a similar opportunity for police to cast a wide net for identifying persons and organizations who may not hold favor for the regime in power, or may not in the future.

But why should one avoid the thought? If the situation looks like the people are going to lose the war for their minds, and are unwilling to back a publisher like Assange who has given his all to try to empower them, why should anyone put themselves at risk by expressing their opinions? It's a honeypot of our own making, just as Facebook is where people go to write their own dossiers for the Authorities.

leveymg on Sat, 07/13/2019 - 10:36am
Every time you entrap yourself as

@Pluto's Republic an enemy of the status quo, you raise the calculated costs of the eventual crackdown, pushing back the day of reckoning. Keep it up! Visible rebellion is the only defense of the people.

Pluto's Republic on Fri, 07/12/2019 - 5:54pm
Background: If someone were to choose the ideal node

...from which to leverage access to the elite, Harvard University would be a top choice.

Jeffery Epstein actually entered the social salons of the elite through many doors. He was, of course, a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. One would have to be to rub shoulders with the political elite. From there he matriculated to the Trilateral Commission becoming friendly with Harvard President, Larry Summers. **

Becoming a surprise mystery philanthropist at Harvard, with Summers help, was a booster rocket for Epstein. In the Havard Crimson , in June 2003, Epstein's involvement with Harvard was celebrated.

People in the News: Jeffrey E. Epstein

Elusive financier Jeffrey E. Epstein donated $30 million this year to Harvard for the founding of a mathematical biology and evolutionary dynamics program.

While the mathematics teacher turned magnate remained unknown to most people until he flew President Clinton, Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker to Africa to explore the problems of AIDS and economic development facing the region, Epstein has been a familiar face to many at Harvard for years.

Networking with the University's leading intellectuals, Epstein has spurred research through both discussions with and dollars contributed to various faculty members.

Lindsley Professor of Psychology Stephen M. Kosslyn, former Dean of the Faculty Henry A. Rosovsky and Frankfurter Professor of Law Alan M. Dershowitz are among Epstein's bevy of eminent friends that includes princes, presidents and Nobel Prize winners.

Epstein is also well acquainted with University President Lawrence H. Summers. The two serve together on the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations, two elite international relations organizations.

Epstein's collection of high-profile friends also includes newly-recruited professor Martin A. Nowak, who will run Harvard's mathematical biology and evolutionary dynamics program.

Like Kosslyn, Rosovsky and Dershowitz, Nowak praises Epstein's numerous relationships within the scientific community.

"I am amazed by the connections he has in the scientific world," Nowak says. "He knows an amazing number of scientists. He knows everyone you can imagine."

Epstein's relationships within the academy are remarkable since the tycoon, who has amassed his fortune by managing the wealth of billionaires from his private Caribbean island, does not hold a bachelor's degree.

Yet, friends and beneficiaries say they do not see Epstein merely as a man with deep pockets, but as an intellectual equal.

Dershowitz says Epstein is "brilliant" and Kosslyn calls Epstein "one of the brightest people I've ever known."

Epstein's beneficiaries say they are particularly appreciative of the no-strings-attached approach Epstein takes with his donations.

"He is one of the most pleasant philanthropists," Nowak says. "Unlike many people who support science, he supports science without any conditions. There are not any disadvantages to associating with him."

Friends and associates say Harvard stands to benefit from its evolving relationship with Epstein.

"I hope that he will, over time, become one of the leading supporters of science at Harvard," Rosovsky writes in an e-mail.

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** A footnote on Larry Summers seems important here: Harvard-trained economists have been running the US economy for a very long time, and continue to do so. Summers began his ascent as a professor of economics at Harvard University, leaving shortly before Bill Clinton won the Presidency. He was clearly the Neoliberal seed planted for the New American Century.

In 1993, Summers was appointed Undersecretary for International Affairs of the United States Department of the Treasury under the Clinton Administration. In 1995, he was promoted to Deputy Secretary of the Treasury under his long-time political mentor Robert Rubin. In 1999, he succeeded Rubin as Secretary of the Treasury.

While working for the Clinton administration Summers played a leading role in the American response to the 1994 economic crisis in Mexico, the 1997 Asian financial crisis, and the Russian financial crisis. He was also influential in the Harvard Institute for International Development and American-advised privatization of the economies of the post-Soviet states, and in the deregulation of the U.S financial system, including the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act.

At This Point the Ball is Passed to the Bush Team Republicans, while the Democrats Sit Back and Wait for 2008.

There's now a Treasury surplus to transfer to the wealthy, and the necessary deregulation for Wall Street empowerment is in place. The Soviet era had ended and Russia is ended forever. The world is finally primed to be seized by the One Exceptional Power. It's 2001, and we are standing on the threshold of the New American Century . Time to throw a flash-bang of chaos onto the world stage and trigger the booming War Economy that will carry us directly to global control.

There's a rocky road ahead for Larry Summers. Summers introduces Epstein into the Harvard fold, but becomes reckless with his newly-refined Neoliberalism and his opinions concerning "lady scholars."

Following the end of Clinton's term, Summers served as the 27th President of Harvard University from 2001 to 2006. Summers resigned as Harvard's president in the wake of a no-confidence vote by Harvard faculty, which resulted in large part from Summers's conflict with Cornel West, financial conflict of interest questions regarding his relationship with Andrei Shleifer, and a 2005 speech in which he suggested that the under-representation of women in science and engineering could be due to a "different availability of aptitude at the high end", and less to patterns of discrimination and socialization. Remarking upon political correctness in institutions of higher education, Summers said in 2016:

Summers resigned as Harvard's president in the wake of a no-confidence vote by Harvard faculty, which resulted in large part from Summers's conflict with Cornel West, financial conflict of interest questions regarding his relationship with Andrei Shleifer, and a 2005 speech in which he suggested that the under-representation of women in science and engineering

There is a great deal of absurd political correctness. Now, I'm somebody who believes very strongly in diversity, who resists racism in all of its many incarnations, who thinks that there is a great deal that's unjust in American society that needs to be combated, but it seems to be that there is a kind of creeping totalitarianism in terms of what kind of ideas are acceptable and are debatable on college campuses.

After his departure from Harvard, Summers cooled his jets on Wall Street, positioning himself to be called back into the game when it was Team Democrat's turn in 2008.

Summers worked as a managing partner at the hedge fund D. E. Shaw & Co., and as a freelance speaker at other financial institutions, including Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup, Merrill Lynch and Lehman Brothers. Summers rejoined public service during the Obama administration, serving as the Director of the White House United States National Economic Council for President Barack Obama from January 2009 until November 2010, where he emerged as a key economic decision-maker in the Obama administration's response to the Great Recession.

Jeffery Epstein continued to weave himself into the fabric of government like a good psychopath would. He was by no means the only one.

[Jul 29, 2019] Alex Acosta let the cat out of the bag the Justice Department knew all about the Jeffrey Epstein Florida plea deal by Robert Willmann

Notable quotes:
"... A secret plea bargain and non-prosecution agreement with the federal government is what happened. It shifted the public face to the Florida state court system with Epstein pleading to two state prostitution crimes, which implied, of course, that the complainants were prostitutes. The public is now aware that the result was Epstein sleeping at the county jail and then going to his office during the day, for 13 months. Registering as a sex offender has not curtailed his travel or daily activity. ..."
"... The whole nasty business disappeared from view and would have stayed hidden in its nicely wrapped package except that two civil lawsuits have pulled some of it into the light. ..."
"... With that background, we come to the recent fascinating events, in which Epstein was arrested, and the role of Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta in this whole rotten mess was revealed to some extent. He had been the U.S. Attorney for that part of Florida at that time ..."
"... There you have it: "... this case ... had input and vetting at multiple levels of the Department of Justice." The cat was out of the bag. It was a sad sight: Alex Acosta, after achieving two significant positions in the federal government, took a dive to be the fall guy. ..."
"... The non-prosecution agreement has signature dates from 24 September to 7 December 2007, and page 3 of Robert Josefsberg's lawsuit against Epstein confirms this. The Department of Justice is a bureaucracy, and even though a U.S. Attorney has significant authority and some independence, the Justice Department in Washington D.C. -- sometimes called "Main Justice" -- ultimately controls things. In the organizational chart, the U.S. Attorneys are under the Deputy Attorney General, the number two person [6] ..."
"... The U.S. Attorney General from 3 February 2005 to 17 September 2007 was Alberto Gonzales. Michael Mukasey was nominated on 17 September and became Attorney General on 8 November 2007 until Eric Holder was sworn in on 3 February 2009. ..."
"... The FBI Director from 4 September 2001 to 4 September 2013 was Robert Mueller. ..."
"... And from July 2008 into this year, the Justice Department has resisted the CVRA lawsuit in Florida. ..."
"... This material is presented here for viewing or downloading so that you can think for yourself. Mass media has reported next to nothing about the 11-year course of the Crime Victims' Rights Act lawsuit and the detail in the first 22 pages of the trial court's opinion, other than that the court found the government violated the CVRA. I am not aware of one word reported about the 2010 lawsuit brought by Robert Josefsberg against Epstein for breaching the non-prosecution agreement. ..."
"... Jeffrey Epstein was being protected. The process and communications that accomplished it, and who did it, are not yet known. ..."
"... Why nobody is above the law! Not even a President! Oh! Wait! 23 flights! And a scion of the house of Windsor allegedly involved as well? ..."
"... "The federal non-prosecution agreement Epstein's legal team negotiated with the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida immunized all named and unnamed "potential co-conspirators" in Epstein's child trafficking network, which includes those who allegedly procured minors for Epstein and also any powerbrokers who may have molested them." ..."
"... Who gets a plea deal in which "all named and unnamed potential co-conspirators" get immunity? https://gawker.com/flight-logs-put-clinton-dershowitz-on-pedophile-billio-1681039971 ..."
"... Epstein's NPA was limited to the Florida district of federal courts, hence another branch of the federal courts, the Southern District of New York, was free to re-open the issue..and did. ..."
"... Acosta says he acted in accordance with his superior's wishes at the DOJ. Plausible, but lets see some corroborating evidence. If he agreed to negotiate this NPA without getting his boss's orders in writing he is a remarkable fool. ..."
"... Arkancide? Epstein is linked with E Barak, and Nicole Junkermann, per flight logs. Presumably that is the intelligence link Acosta was babbling about. https://carbyne911.com/team/ ..."
"... Doubt if Bubba Bill was involved in any of Epstein's sexual shenanigans after being burnt by Lewinsky. Clinton always had the proverbial ability to "talk a dog off a gut wagon" and could most likely find an agreeable partner elsewhere. Might be wrong but doubt it. ..."
"... If I understand correctly, Epstein broke the agreement. Would it follow that the WTF!? immunity deal is now nixed? ..."
"... Crossing the Clinton cabal in any manner is seriously dangerous. The list of those who have and died mysteriously is very long. ..."
"... The sweetheart deal that Epstein received from Acosta and the DOJ seems rather unusual for the felony that is such a social taboo as you note. Not only did he get off extremely lightly but his co-conspirators were completely let off the hook. The way the children who were raped were also treated by the courts was also shameful. ..."
"... This case epitomizes the travesty of the current state of the rule of law. Sexual predators of children are typically thrown the book and quickly taken off the streets to serve a long sentence. Not only did that not happen but even worse he was allowed to continue his despicable behavior out in the open even when he was supposed to be serving his sentence. Clearly he had some powerful friends in the Bush administration, but even with these connections when such execrable behavior is shown repeatedly there were none with a conscience. A sad testament to the state of our justice system. ..."
"... The usual plea agreement requires the defendant to plead guilty to some federal criminal offense. The Epstein agreement did not require him to plead to a federal crime. It also did not require him to debrief or provide them with information. To the contrary, it required that the federal government do nothing to him or to other people who helped him or conspired with him to commit federal crimes! ..."
Jul 18, 2019 | turcopolier.typepad.com

16 July 2019 Alex Acosta let the cat out of the bag: the Justice Department knew all about the Jeffrey Epstein Florida plea deal

A taboo in our culture that is also a crime is sexual contact with a child or young person -- usually less than 17 or 18 years old -- by an adult or older person. An exception is sexual experimentation during the struggle of adolescence, when the persons are no more than around two or three years apart in age, as long as there is consent. A greater age difference creates the crime often called "statutory rape", in which a statute (a law passed by a legislature) says that legal consent for sexual contact cannot be given by the underage person.

This taboo is a strong one, even more so than homicide, about which there are various levels and justifications, such as self-defense. All over the country on a regular basis, underage sex crime cases are tried to a jury, even without medical or forensic evidence. And with just one complainant and victim.

But then Jeffrey Epstein is named as a suspect in underage sex crimes in Palm Beach County, Florida, with not one complainant, but with at least 20.

What was the local State Attorney, Barry Krischer, going to do? Apparently, not very much. Attention shifted to the federal U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida, Alexander Acosta, and the FBI. Was a federal prosecution pursued? No. Nothing.

A secret plea bargain and non-prosecution agreement with the federal government is what happened. It shifted the public face to the Florida state court system with Epstein pleading to two state prostitution crimes, which implied, of course, that the complainants were prostitutes. The public is now aware that the result was Epstein sleeping at the county jail and then going to his office during the day, for 13 months. Registering as a sex offender has not curtailed his travel or daily activity.

The whole nasty business disappeared from view and would have stayed hidden in its nicely wrapped package except that two civil lawsuits have pulled some of it into the light.

On 7 July 2008, a case under the federal Crime Victims' Rights Act (CVRA) was filed in the Southern District of Florida by lawyers Paul Cassell, Bradley Edwards, and two others against the federal government, with case number 08-cv-80736 [1]. Around ten and a half years later, on 21 February 2019, the trial court judge issued a 33-page opinion and order granting a request for partial summary judgment by two victims, ruling that there was no genuine issue of material fact about the assertion that the government violated the CVRA by failing properly to confer with the victims, and that therefore a contested trial on that issue is not necessary. The opinion is worth reading, and the first 22 pages are a detailed statement of facts about the non-prosecution agreement and the activity surrounding it by lawyers for the government and Epstein, giving an insight into what was going on. The beginning of the opinion references four startling factual assertions made by the complainants in their request for summary judgment and which the federal government admitted without qualification in its response [2]:

"1. Between about 1999 and 2007, Jeffrey Epstein sexually abused more than 30 minor girls, including Jane Doe 1 and Jane Doe 2, at his mansion in Palm Beach, Florida, located in the Southern District of Florida, and elsewhere in the United States and overseas.

"2. Because Epstein and his co-conspirators knowingly traveled in interstate and international commerce to sexually abuse Jane Doe 1, Jane Doe 2, and other similarly situated victims, they committed violations of not only Florida law (see, e,g., Fla. Stat. sections 794.05, 796.04, 796.045, 39.201 and 777.04), but also federal law, including repeated violations of 18 U.S.C. sections 1591, 2421, 2422, 2423, and 371).

"3. In addition to personally abusing his victims, Epstein also directed other persons to sexually abuse the girls. For example, Nadia Marcinkova sexually abused Jane Doe 1 and other victims at the direction of Epstein.

"8. More generally, the FBI established that Epstein used paid employees to repeatedly find and bring minor girls to him. Epstein worked in concert with others to obtain minor girls not only for his own sexual gratification, but also for the sexual gratification of others."

The opinion in the CVRA case is here https://turcopolier.typepad.com/files/jeffreyepstein_cvra__court_opinion_20190221.pdf

The present court activity is to figure out a procedure to determine a remedy for the government's violation of the CVRA and to establish a remedy.

On 17 May 2010, a lawsuit revealing more of Epstein's degenerate attitude and mentality was filed in federal court in the Southern District of Florida, with case number 10-cv-21586. It was based on parts 7 and 8 of the plea bargain / non-prosecution agreement, that--

"7. The United Sates shall provide Epstein's attorneys with a list of individuals whom it has identified as victims, as defined in 18 U.S.C. section 2255, after Epstein has signed this agreement and been sentenced. Upon the execution of this agreement, the United States, in consultation with and subject to the good faith approval of Epstein's counsel, shall select an attorney representative for these persons, who shall be paid for by Epstein. Epstein's counsel may contact the indentified individuals through that representative.

"8. [In part] If any of the individuals referred to in paragraph (7), supra , elects to file suit pursuant to 18 U.S.C. section 2255, Epstein will not contest the jurisdiction of the United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida over his person and/or the subject matter, and Epstein waives his right to contest liability and also waives his right to contest damages up to an amount as agreed to between the identified individual and Epstein, so long as the identified individual elects to proceed exclusively under 18 U.S.C. section 2255, and agrees to waive any other claim for damages, whether pursuant to state, federal, or common law."

Title 18, U.S. Code, section 2255, creates the right for an underage person (a minor) to bring a civil lawsuit in federal court for money for personal injury suffered as a victim of certain federal crimes. The victim can seek money for the actual harm suffered, or the fixed amount of $150,000, plus attorney fees and litigation costs. [3].

The attorney representative selected to help the females who wanted to seek compensation by that route under the non-prosecution agreement (NPA) was Robert Josefsberg, of the Podhurst & Orseck law firm in Miami, Florida, known to have experience in litigation. Some number over 12 of the 34 females named by the U.S. Attorney's Office as complainants against Epstein sought compensation through the representative.

However, although Epstein agreed in the NPA to pay the attorney representative and to not contest liability in the claims the females made under 18 U.S.C. 2255, he not only breached the agreement by contesting liability in the cases, but also he paid only a small part of what was owed to Josefsberg, and tried to stiff the representative by not paying over $2 million dollars due for attorney fees and costs!

For over 20 months, Josefsberg tried unsuccessfully to get Epstein to pay him under the NPA, and finally sued Epstein for breach of contract and breach of the implied doctrine of good faith and fair dealing. Attached to the lawsuit document was a copy of the NPA. Here are the scandalous plea bargain / non-prosecution agreement and addendum, and the informative original petition brought by the representative for some of the victimized females:

This produced an amusing turn of events, shown by the court clerk's docket sheet. Epstein quickly settled with the attorney representative by 8 June 2010, only 22 days after the lawsuit was filed [4]. After all, he had breached the NPA and it could have been cancelled (and should have been) and a prosecution started in Florida.

Picking apart the NPA is in itself an interesting exercise, but looking at the agreement as a whole, you can see that it is designed to keep his sexually abusive conduct from being disclosed, both as to criminal charges -- he pled only to state prostitution offenses -- and as to civil cases involving females who decided to seek compensation through the NPA's representative and 18 U.S.C. section 2255. In those civil cases, Epstein agreed to not challenge his liability, so no stories would be told in court; the only issue would be the amount of money to be paid.

With that background, we come to the recent fascinating events, in which Epstein was arrested, and the role of Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta in this whole rotten mess was revealed to some extent. He had been the U.S. Attorney for that part of Florida at that time. The NPA on page 2 asserted that: "On the authority of R. Alexander Acosta, United States Attorney for the Southern District of Florida, prosecution in this District for these offenses shall be deferred in favor of prosecution by the State of Florida, provided that Epstein abides by the following conditions and the requirements of this Agreement set forth below".

Well, not exactly. When publicity heated up, fingers were pointed at Acosta with the usual hollering by some that he should resign. This produced a pathetic press conference on Wednesday, 10 July, in which Acosta tried to justify what the materials presented above reveal [5]. On Friday, 12 July, when president Trump went outside the White House to talk to the press before leaving on a trip, Acosta went with him. At around 1 minute, 40 seconds into this short video excerpt, Acosta says:

"I have seen coverage of this case, that is over 12 years old, that had input and vetting at multiple levels of the Department of Justice. And as I look forward, I do not think it is right and fair for this administration's labor department to have Epstein as the focus, rather than the incredible economy that we have today. And so I called the president this morning. I told him that I thought the right thing was to step aside...."

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4806893/labor-secretary-acosta-resigns-jeffrey-epstein-plea-deal-controversy

There you have it: "... this case ... had input and vetting at multiple levels of the Department of Justice." The cat was out of the bag. It was a sad sight: Alex Acosta, after achieving two significant positions in the federal government, took a dive to be the fall guy.

"Multiple levels" of "input" and "vetting" at the DOJ, you say? Who might that be?

The non-prosecution agreement has signature dates from 24 September to 7 December 2007, and page 3 of Robert Josefsberg's lawsuit against Epstein confirms this. The Department of Justice is a bureaucracy, and even though a U.S. Attorney has significant authority and some independence, the Justice Department in Washington D.C. -- sometimes called "Main Justice" -- ultimately controls things. In the organizational chart, the U.S. Attorneys are under the Deputy Attorney General, the number two person [6]

https://www.justice.gov/agencies/chart

The U.S. Attorney General from 3 February 2005 to 17 September 2007 was Alberto Gonzales. Michael Mukasey was nominated on 17 September and became Attorney General on 8 November 2007 until Eric Holder was sworn in on 3 February 2009.

The FBI Director from 4 September 2001 to 4 September 2013 was Robert Mueller.

More research is needed to identify persons in various positions in the Department of Justice from 2005 through at least 2010, when Epstein breached the NPA by contesting liability and failing to pay attorney fees and costs, and had to be sued by Robert Josefsberg and the Podhurst & Orseck law firm.

And from July 2008 into this year, the Justice Department has resisted the CVRA lawsuit in Florida.

The CVRA opinion on page 3 confirmed that by May 2007, the U.S. Attorney's Office had drafted a 53-page indictment and an 82-page prosecution memorandum about federal sex crimes committed by Epstein. The opinion on pages 5-6 quotes a letter to Epstein's counsel that the U.S. Attorney's office did not have the power to bind the Immigration service, but that they did not plan on bringing immigration charges against two of Epstein's female co-conspirators.

The CVRA opinion on page 7 tells us that--

"On September 21, 2007, Palm Beach County State Attorney Barry Krischer wrote the line prosecutor [Assistant U.S. Attorney] about the proposed agreement and added: 'Glad we could get this worked out for reasons I won't put in writing. After this is resolved I would love to buy you a cup at Starbucks and have a conversation'."

This material is presented here for viewing or downloading so that you can think for yourself. Mass media has reported next to nothing about the 11-year course of the Crime Victims' Rights Act lawsuit and the detail in the first 22 pages of the trial court's opinion, other than that the court found the government violated the CVRA. I am not aware of one word reported about the 2010 lawsuit brought by Robert Josefsberg against Epstein for breaching the non-prosecution agreement.

From this information, you can see the brazen lack of a basis for the extra protection put in the plea bargain / NPA on page 5, that--

"In consideration of Epstein's agreement to plead guilty and to provide compensation in the manner described above, if Epstein successfully fulfills all of the terms and conditions of this agreement, the United States also agrees that it will not institute any criminal charges against any potential co-conspirators of Epstein, including but not limited to Sarah Kellen, Adriana Ross, Lesley Groff, or Nadia Marcinkova."

Jeffrey Epstein was being protected. The process and communications that accomplished it, and who did it, are not yet known.

[1] The Crime Victims' Rights Act, Title 18, United States Code, section 3771

http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title18/part2/chapter237&edition=prelim

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3771

[2] The request (motion) for partial summary judgment by the victims (Jane Doe 1 and 2) contained a list of what they claimed were 157 undisputed material facts. The federal government filed a response which either admitted, or admitted with a qualification, or denied the asserted facts. The numbered facts 1, 2, 3, and 8 were admitted.

[3] Title 18, U.S. Code, section 2255

http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title18-section2255&num=0&edition=prelim

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2255

[4] The court clerk's docket sheet for the Robert Josefsberg and Podhurst & Orseck lawsuit against Epstein

https://turcopolier.typepad.com/files/jeffreyepstein_docket_sheet_did_not_pay_lawsuit.pdf

[5] https://www.c-span.org/video/?462479-1/labor-secretary-defends-handling-epstein-plea-deal-amid-calls-resignation

[6] A text version of the Department of Justice organizational chart

https://www.justice.gov/agencies/organizational-chart-text-version

Posted at 08:30 PM in Administration , Current Affairs , government , Justice | Permalink


GeneO , 16 July 2019 at 11:50 PM

I had hoped we would learn from today's hearings more regarding Epstein's source of wealth - and exactly how much it was. Plus more info on his doctored passport. More about the money trail between him and various Florida officials.

Anyone new calling the tip line - especially from during his time as a teacher at that prep school in NY? And more about the Dershowitz and Starr involvement back 12 years ago.

Unfortunately the food fight between Trump and the four frosh sucked all the air out of the media.

Walrus , 17 July 2019 at 01:58 AM
Why nobody is above the law! Not even a President! Oh! Wait! 23 flights! And a scion of the house of Windsor allegedly involved as well?

Is it going to be possible to clean the stable? If it isn't, you have lost your Republic.

anon , 17 July 2019 at 07:58 AM
Came across this site with the court documents .The FBI travelled to Australia in 2011 and interviewed ms Roberts at the american consulate in Sydney.9 years ago then in 2015 she sued Epstein and maxwell. Only now in 2019 did Epstein fly back from Paris knowing he was going to be arrested.

Some of those girls were collecting info for him and getting paid. The whole thing stinks time to call in the plumbers.

John Minehan , 17 July 2019 at 10:33 AM
I saw this in a couple of places ( https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/i-was-told-epstein-belonged-to-intelligence-and-to-leave-it-alone; https://www.dailywire.com/news/49355/acosta-was-told-epstein-belonged-intelligence-ryan-saavedra; https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2019/07/10/alex-acosta-mean-allegedly-said-epstein-belonged-intelligence/) and I'm not sure if it the report is accurate. (It's not showing up in the NY Times or The economist. But it doesn't seem impossible.

Many things are disposed of by plea Bargaining. With high profile crimes, it is always difficult to know if you did the right thing. Here, it is fairly obvious it wasn't. Acosta is a Harvard College/HLS, a very able and connected guy and his error here has damaged his life.

JamesT , 17 July 2019 at 11:17 AM
The part that I haven't seen being reported or discussed:

"The federal non-prosecution agreement Epstein's legal team negotiated with the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida immunized all named and unnamed "potential co-conspirators" in Epstein's child trafficking network, which includes those who allegedly procured minors for Epstein and also any powerbrokers who may have molested them."

Who gets a plea deal in which "all named and unnamed potential co-conspirators" get immunity? https://gawker.com/flight-logs-put-clinton-dershowitz-on-pedophile-billio-1681039971

Barbara Ann , 17 July 2019 at 12:38 PM
Department of what now?

Thanks for the link to the NPA I didn't realize it was in the public domain, it is an astonishing read. I'm not familiar with NPA's (having never been party to one!) so forgive me if the following questions are uninformed:

To what extent are NPA's legally binding upon the USG, are there circumstances where a court can set one aside for reasons other than breach of contract?

The NPA appears to try and indemnify Epstein and both known and unknown co-conspirators (Ghislaine Maxwell?) in both the offenses prosecuted and any other offenses subject to the joint USAO/FBI investigation . In fact on page 5 the indemnity given uses the wording "the [US] also agrees it will not institute any criminal charges against any potential co-conspirators of Epstein included but not limited to.." (my emphasis) i.e. scope here appears to be unlimited. This cannot be legally enforceable surely?

I thought NPA's were used to go after people further up the food chain. This one seems to have given carte blanche immunity to all involved at every level. I'm astonished Acosta had the authority, merely with "consultation" within DOJ to do this. This is a travesty and is starting to make FISA abuse look like chicken feed.

Mark Logan said in reply to Barbara Ann... , 17 July 2019 at 08:57 PM
Barbara,

Epstein's NPA was limited to the Florida district of federal courts, hence another branch of the federal courts, the Southern District of New York, was free to re-open the issue..and did.

Acosta says he acted in accordance with his superior's wishes at the DOJ. Plausible, but lets see some corroborating evidence. If he agreed to negotiate this NPA without getting his boss's orders in writing he is a remarkable fool.

Walrus , 17 July 2019 at 12:56 PM

Was Acosta making an "error"? Looks to me he was a fully paid up member of the Swamp, doing what swampians do and he will no doubt settle back into a Swamp law firm or Professorship somewhere. Weep not for him.
Harry , 17 July 2019 at 01:24 PM
What a fantastic piece! Excellent work and I cannot poke a hole in the reasoning.
Walrus , 17 July 2019 at 03:24 PM
As previously observed, Epstein is going to be killed. Arkancide. The poor schmuck that does it won't realize that he is next.
Marc b. said in reply to Walrus ... , 17 July 2019 at 08:50 PM
Arkancide? Epstein is linked with E Barak, and Nicole Junkermann, per flight logs. Presumably that is the intelligence link Acosta was babbling about. https://carbyne911.com/team/
turcopolier , 17 July 2019 at 03:36 PM
walrus

yes. I con't see him living much longer. On Morning joe today, Joe and his imbecile consort went on at length about a party in 1992 at Mar A Lago for a bunch of NFL cheerleaders. Trump, Epstein and other me stood around ogling the ladies. So what! Not a word was said about the absent Bill Clinton.

srw said in reply to turcopolier ... , 17 July 2019 at 04:10 PM
Doubt if Bubba Bill was involved in any of Epstein's sexual shenanigans after being burnt by Lewinsky. Clinton always had the proverbial ability to "talk a dog off a gut wagon" and could most likely find an agreeable partner elsewhere. Might be wrong but doubt it.
The Twisted Genius -> turcopolier ... , 17 July 2019 at 07:56 PM
Ogling NFL cheerleaders, big deal. That seemed pretty normal to me. I'm waiting for more to come out about the 1992 private party at Mar a Lago with Trump, Epstein and 28 calendar girls. I get the feeling Trump is going tweet crazy right now primarily to change the subject. With Trump, Clinton, the DOJ enablers who protected Epstein and probably a host of others, Epstein is bound to be whacked as you and walrus said.
akaPatience -> turcopolier ... , 17 July 2019 at 09:04 PM
Yes, the MSM are predictably silent about Bill Clinton and other leftists who are/were buddies with Epstein. I guess with all of his money, he could murder someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and...

"imbecile consort". THANK you, you made my day!

Rhondda , 17 July 2019 at 04:17 PM
If I understand correctly, Epstein broke the agreement. Would it follow that the WTF!? immunity deal is now nixed?

What a rotten underbelly oozes out. This foul beast needs to be wrestled into the light. Where is the people's champion? There must be some good people in there somewhere.

John Minnerath , 17 July 2019 at 05:47 PM
Crossing the Clinton cabal in any manner is seriously dangerous. The list of those who have and died mysteriously is very long.
Jack , 17 July 2019 at 07:30 PM
Robert

Thanks for your excellent write-up.

The sweetheart deal that Epstein received from Acosta and the DOJ seems rather unusual for the felony that is such a social taboo as you note. Not only did he get off extremely lightly but his co-conspirators were completely let off the hook. The way the children who were raped were also treated by the courts was also shameful.

This case epitomizes the travesty of the current state of the rule of law. Sexual predators of children are typically thrown the book and quickly taken off the streets to serve a long sentence. Not only did that not happen but even worse he was allowed to continue his despicable behavior out in the open even when he was supposed to be serving his sentence. Clearly he had some powerful friends in the Bush administration, but even with these connections when such execrable behavior is shown repeatedly there were none with a conscience. A sad testament to the state of our justice system.

Do you think the current case will also just be another white wash or do you think the DOJ will pursue the investigation with vigor to get to the bottom of his finances and all the other sexual predators of children in his orbit?

robt willmann , 17 July 2019 at 09:38 PM
Barbara Ann,

You are perceptive about the Epstein plea bargain / non-prosecution agreement (NPA). The one for Epstein is the complete opposite of what happens in federal criminal cases. Yes, agreements between the Justice Department and defendants are often used "to go after people further up the food chain". There will be a plea bargain with a cooperation section in it. If cooperation is not part of the arrangement, that section is left out.

They have a standard form they use for plea bargains, and some sections may be in or out of it depending on the situation. Classic examples are those that were used by "special counsel" Robert Mueller when he went around putting the squeeze on people. Here is the agreement between the Mueller group and Richard Gates, who was around Paul Manafort during the Trump campaign--

https://www.justice.gov/file/1038801/download

The usual plea agreement requires the defendant to plead guilty to some federal criminal offense. The Epstein agreement did not require him to plead to a federal crime. It also did not require him to debrief or provide them with information. To the contrary, it required that the federal government do nothing to him or to other people who helped him or conspired with him to commit federal crimes!

John Minehan , 17 July 2019 at 09:38 PM
I'm not a Trump supporter, but you have to say this for Trump: he banned Jeffery Epstein from his properties and made him PNG when Trump had complaints about the man's conduct on site.

[Jul 29, 2019] Pizzagate: Do We Know The Full Scope Yet?!

Jul 29, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

ChanceIs Pinto Currency Feb 19, 2017 4:24 PM I think that PizzaGate is for real. I will take the "safer" position that there is reason for investigation, but there is nothing which John Q Public can observe that makes a very firm case for prosecution (of John Podesta). Dave Seaman gives a "credible" update on PizzaGate evert few days. This from Sunday afternoon, Feb 19:

Pizzagate: Do We Know The Full Scope Yet?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnyh1d_2KnQ sleigher Pinto Currency Feb 19, 2017 5:22 PM "When they start arresting the pedophiles in Congress, the voting balance will change for Trump."

Looks like it is starting... Just not Congress yet

http://www.neonnettle.com/features/738-pedogate-high-profile-pedophiles-... Chris Dakota Pinto Currency Feb 19, 2017 5:55 PM FBI insider arrests coming this week.

At least 30 in congress for pedogate. Wahooo ronaldwilsonreagan Feb 19, 2017 1:04 PM No fan of Drumpf's bi-polar behavior but it pales in comparison to obama's clear insanity. We actually had a president who bragged he was good at killing people. That's as insane as it comes. DownWithYogaPants Wahooo Feb 19, 2017 1:12 PM Any usage of the name "Drumpf" will get you a downvote from me. It's a name. It has no bearing but yet it appears you think it has some sort of magical powers when you use. The fact it was popularized by a weak comedian also brings a ding. vulcanraven DownWithYogaPants Feb 19, 2017 1:54 PM Drumpf=The regressive liberal crybaby callsign

[Jul 29, 2019] American Ron Unz on Pizzagate

Highly recommended!
Jul 29, 2019 | www.unz.com

I don't use Social Media myself, but near the end of the 2016 presidential campaign, I gradually began seeing more and more Trump supporters referring to something called "Pizzagate," a burgeoning sexual scandal that they claimed would bring down Hillary Clinton and many of the top leaders of her party, with the chatter actually increasing after Trump was elected. As near as I could tell, the whole bizarre theory had grown up on the far-right fringe of the Internet, with the utterly fantastical plot having something to do with stolen secret emails, DC pizza parlors, and a ring of pedophiles situated near the top of the Democratic Party. But given all the other strange and unlikely things I'd gradually discovered about our history, it didn't seem like something I could necessarily dismiss out of hand.

At the beginning of December, a right-wing blogger produced a lengthy exposition of the Pizzagate charges, which finally gave me some understanding of what was actually under discussion, and I soon made arrangements to republish his article. It quickly attracted a great deal of interest, and some websites pointed to it as the best single introduction to the scandal for a general audience.

Pizzagate Aedon Cassiel • December 2, 2016 • 3,100 Words

A couple of weeks later, I republished an additional article by the same writer, describing a long list of previous pedophilia scandals that had occurred in elite American and European political circles. Although many of these seemed to be solidly documented, nearly all of them had received minimal coverage by our mainstream media outlets. And if such political pedophile rings had existed in the relatively recent past, was it so totally implausible that there might be another one simmering beneath the surface of today's Washington DC?

Precedents for Pizzagate Aedon Cassiel • December 23, 2016 • 6,200 Words

Those interested in the details of the Pizzagate Hypothesis are advised to read these articles, especially the first one, but I might as well provide a brief summary.

John Podesta had been a longtime fixture in DC political circles, becoming chief of staff to President Bill Clinton in 1998, and afterward remaining one of the most powerful figures in the Democratic Party establishment. While serving as as chairman of Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign, his apparent carelessness with the password security of his Gmail account allowed it to easily be hacked, and tens of thousands of his personal emails were soon published on WikiLeaks. A swarm of young anti-Clinton activists began scouring this treasure-trove of semi-confidential information, seeking evidence of mundane bribery and corruption, but instead they came across some quite odd exchanges, seemingly written in coded language.

Now use of coded language in a supposedly secure private email account raises all sorts of natural suspicions regarding what might have been under discussion, with the most likely possibilities being illegal drugs or sex. But most of the references didn't seem to fit the former category, and in our remarkably libertine era, in which political candidates compete for the right to be Grand Marshal at an annual Gay Pride Parade, one of the few sexual activities still discussed only in whispers would seem to be pedophilia, with some of the very strange remarks possibly hinting at this.

The researchers also soon discovered that his brother Tony Podesta, one of the wealthiest and most successful lobbyists in DC, had extremely odd taste in art. Major items of his very extensive personal collection seemed to represent tortured or murdered bodies, and one of his favorite artists was best known for paintings depicting young children being held captive, lying dead, or suffering under severe distress. Such peculiar artwork obviously isn't illegal, but it might naturally arouse some suspicions. And oddly enough, arch-Democrat Podesta had long been a close personal friend of former Republican Speaker and convicted child-molester Dennis Hastert, welcoming him back into DC society after his release from prison.

Furthermore, some of the rather suspiciously-worded Podesta emails referred to events held at a local DC pizza parlor, greatly favored by the Democratic Party elite, whose owner was the gay former boyfriend of David Brock, a leading Democratic activist. The public Instagram account of that pizza-entrepreneur apparently contained numerous images of young children, sometimes tied or bound, with those images frequently labeled by hashtags using the traditional gay slang for underage sexual targets . Some photos showed the fellow wearing a tee-shirt bearing the statement "I Love Children" in French, and by a very odd coincidence, his possibly assumed name was phonetically identical to that very same French phrase, thus proclaiming to the world that he was "a lover of children." Closely connected Instagram accounts also included pictures of young children, sometimes shown amid piles of high-value currency, with queries about how much those particular children might be worth. None of this seemed illegal, but surely any reasonable person would regard the material as extremely suspicious.

DC is sometimes described as "Powertown," being the seat of the individuals who make America's laws and govern our society, with local political journalists being closely attuned to the relative status of such individuals. And oddly enough, GQ Magazine had ranked that gay pizza parlor owner with a strange focus on young children as being one of the 50 most powerful people in our national capital, placing him far ahead of many Cabinet members, Senators, Congressional Chairmen, Supreme Court justices, and top lobbyists. Was his pizza really that delicious?

These few paragraphs provide merely a sliver of the large quantity of highly-suspicious material surrounding various powerful figures at the apex of the DC political world. A vast cloud of billowing smoke is certainly no proof of any fire, but only a fool would completely ignore it without attempting further investigation.

I usually regard videos as a poor means of imparting serious information, far less effective and meaningful than the simple printed word. But the overwhelming bulk of the evidence supporting the Pizzagate Hypothesis consists of visual images and screen shots, and these are naturally suited to a video presentation.

Some of the best summaries of the Pizzagate case were produced by a young British YouTuber named Tara McCarthy, whose work was published under the name of "Reality Calls," and her videos were viewed hundreds of thousands of times. Although her channel was eventually banned and her videos purged, copies were later reloaded to other accounts, both on YouTube and BitChute. Some of the evidence she presents seemed rather innocuous or speculative to me and other elements were probably based upon her unfamiliarity with American society and culture. But a great deal of extremely suspicious material remains, and I would suggest that people watch the videos and decide for themselves.

Around the same time that I first became familiar with the details of the Pizzagate controversy, the topic also started reaching the pages of my morning newspapers, but in an rather strange manner. Political stories began giving a sentence or two to the "Pizzagate hoax," describing it as a ridiculous right-wing "conspiracy theory" but excluding all relevant details. I had an eery feeling that some unseen hand had suddenly flipped a switch causing the entire mainstream media to begin displaying identical signs declaring "Pizzagate Is False -- Nothing To See There!" in brightly flashing neon. I couldn't recall any previous example of such a strange media reaction to some obscure Internet controversy.

Articles in the Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times also suddenly appeared denouncing the entirety of the alternative media -- Left, Right, and Libertarian -- as "fake news" websites promoting Russian propaganda , while urging that their content be blocked by all patriotic Internet giants such as Facebook, Twitter, and Google. Prior to that moment, I'd never even heard the term "fake news" but suddenly it was ubiquitous across the media, once again almost as if some unseen hand had suddenly flipped a switch.

I naturally began to wonder whether the timing of these two strange developments was entirely coincidental. Perhaps Pizzagate was indeed true and struck so deeply at the core of our hugely corrupted political system that the media efforts to suppress it were approaching the point of hysteria.

Not long afterward, Tara McCarthy's detailed Pizzagate videos were purged from YouTube. This was among the very first instances of video content being banned despite fully conforming to all existing YouTube guidelines, another deeply suspicious development.

I also noticed that mere mention of Pizzagate had become politically lethal. Donald Trump had selected Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, as his National Security Advisor, and Flynn's son served as the latter's chief of staff. The younger Flynn happened to Tweet out a couple of links to Pizzagate stories, pointing out that the accusations hadn't yet been actually investigated let alone disproven, and very soon afterward, he was purged from the Trump transition team, foreshadowing his father's fall a few weeks later. It seemed astonishing to me that a few simple Tweets about an Internet controversy could have such huge real-life impact near the top of our government.

The media continued its uniform drumbeat of "Pizzagate Has Been Disproven!" but we were never told how or by whom, and I was not the only individual to notice the hollowness of such denunciations. An award-winning investigative journalist named Ben Swann at a CBS station in Atlanta broadcast a short television segment summarizing the Pizzagate controversy and noting that contrary to widespread media claims, Pizzagate had neither been investigated nor debunked. Swann was almost immediately purged by CBS but a copy of his television segment remains available for viewing on the Internet.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/-GZFHLAcG8A?feature=oembed

There is an old wartime proverb that enemy flak is always heaviest over the most important target, and the remarkably ferocious wave of attacks and censorship against anyone broaching the subject of Pizzagate seems to raise obvious dark suspicions. Indeed, the simultaneous waves of attacks against all alternative media outlets as "Russian propaganda outlets" laid the basis for the continuing regime of Social Media censorship that has become a central aspect of today's world.

Pizzagate may or may not turn out to be true, but the ongoing Internet crackdown has similarly engulfed topics of a somewhat similar nature but with vastly stronger documentation. Although I don't use Twitter myself, I encountered the obvious implications of this new censorship policy following McCain's death last August. The senator had died on a Saturday afternoon, and readership of Sydney Schanberg's long 2008 expose quickly exploded, with numerous individuals Tweeting out the story and a large fraction of our incoming traffic therefore coming from Twitter. This continued until the following morning, at which point the huge flood of Tweets continued to grow, but all incoming Twitter traffic suddenly and permanently vanished, presumably because "shadow banning" had rendered those Tweets invisible. My own article on McCain's very doubtful war record simultaneously suffered the same fate, as did numerous other articles of a controversial nature that we published later that same week.

Perhaps that censorship decision was made by some ignorant young intern at Twitter, casually choosing to ban as "hate speech" or "fake news" a massively-documented 8,400 word expose by one of America's most distinguished journalists, a Pulitzer-prize winning former top editor at The New York Times .

Or perhaps certain political-puppeteers who had spent decades controlling that late Arizona senator sought to ensure that their political puppet-strings remained invisible even after his death.

[Jul 29, 2019] Longtime NYPD said as a father it was one of the most disturbing things I have ever seen.

Jul 29, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Chris Dakota -> Pairadimes Feb 19, 2017 5:54 PM

http://yournewswire.com/district-attorney-obama-treason/

and then kill them all, every damn one of them!

You better be tough to watch this, not for women unless you are like me who will watch it and spread it.

Warning: you can't unwatch this and will need to claim your space after and pray.

This IS John Podesta. This IS what I said was coming to him last summer/fall.

What did I say about this coming eclipse? It is in Pisces, water, water pourer, dams, leaks, secrets and film. Note the color purple which is the Pisces color.

People are saying this is John Podesta torturing a boy in a shower. I had to turn the sound off it was so horrific. This came from Weiners laptop, the cops must be leaking now Life insurance file.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud_TJe0v6IY

John Podesta's voice a match!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=29&v=qzRcPK571mI

divingengineer -> Chris Dakota Feb 19, 2017 6:04 PM

Is this what Comey showed the Senate group this week when they came out looking like they were seasick?

Chris Dakota -> divingengineer Feb 19, 2017 6:13 PM

Yes and longtime NYPD said "as a father it was one of the most disturbing things I have ever seen."

because it is evil.

I am thinking it is MKULTRA stuff, designed with strobe light to split the personality. vulcanraven Pinto Currency Feb 19, 2017 1:47 PM I fucking hope so. I just wonder what the hell they are waiting for, but the more I think about it this is the best I can come up with:

If Pedogate is finally blown wide open, it is going to rip a hole through the fabric of reality for the unawashed sheeple. It will also destroy any and all faith in the US government, and full blown chaos will erupt everywhere.

So whoever is holding the goods on PG, also knows that reality hangs in the balance upon opening that can of worms. I also believe when the dam finally does break and people are getting led away in handcuffs on national TV, a large majority of the population will still be in full blown denial... finding any and every reason to somehow blame the scandal on Trump/Russia/The Flying Spaghetti Monster

[Jul 29, 2019] Deep State Wants Epstein Gone by Greg Hunte

Notable quotes:
"... I guarantee you, they want Epstein gone. There is no doubt about that. I don't know why the Bureau of Prisons put Epstein in a jail cell with a cop that killed four people and buried them in his back yard. ..."
"... Epstein should have been in solitary confinement under watch. So, whoever made that decision, it was a complete error in judgment, if not intentional. That should not have happened in the first place ..."
"... U.S. Attorney (and former Labor Secretary) Alexander Acosta would not have said this if it were not true. It is true. There are intelligence connections. Is this a blackmail operation? We know Epstein has a 'black book.' We know Epstein probably has video of massages by young girls of high profile people, including politicians... ..."
"... There are going to be some big names that are going to be connected to Epstein and his pedophile child trafficking ring. There is no question about it. ..."
Jul 29, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Via Greg Hunter's USAWatchdog.com ,

Former CIA Officer and whistleblower Kevin Shipp says there are big stories with big implications for America that are unfolding now.

One of the biggest earthquakes that is going off will be the high ranking Deep State elite surrounding convicted sex offender Jeffery Epstein. Shipp says,

"Oh my goodness gracious, the Deep State is darn well scared, and some of its political top participants, I guarantee you, they want Epstein gone. There is no doubt about that. I don't know why the Bureau of Prisons put Epstein in a jail cell with a cop that killed four people and buried them in his back yard.

Epstein should have been in solitary confinement under watch. So, whoever made that decision, it was a complete error in judgment, if not intentional. That should not have happened in the first place."

Shipp goes on to point out, " It looks pretty clear to me that the Deep State intelligence Shadow government was involved, and it gets worse..."

" Ghislaine Maxwell, who was Epstein's alleged recruiter for young girls, was the daughter of Robert Maxwell, (Correction: Shipp said John by mistake) who was a known Mossad Agent.

He bilked pension funds to cover losses in his business... He was found dead floating next to his yacht from an alleged heart attack. So, there are some strange connections to the Deep State. U.S. Attorney (and former Labor Secretary) Alexander Acosta would not have said this if it were not true. It is true. There are intelligence connections. Is this a blackmail operation? We know Epstein has a 'black book.' We know Epstein probably has video of massages by young girls of high profile people, including politicians...

. There are going to be some big names that are going to be connected to Epstein and his pedophile child trafficking ring. There is no question about it."

Another huge story unfolding is the investigation into the "hoax" and "witch hunt" of Russian collusion with President Trump that has now been totally disproven. The real story is how traitors in the U.S. government made up a crimes to frame the President, his campaign and his Administration. People high up in the Obama Administration committed massive crimes, only to fail badly in removing Trump from office . Kevin Shipp says,

...for President Trump, "This is a fight to the death. . . . Trump has to win. . . . There is no question about it. They want Donald Trump gone anyway that they can. We know the Shadow Government, including the CIA, and I studied this in detail, were responsible for the assassination of JFK using the Mafia, and that's how far they will go. You are talking trillions of dollars, trillions of dollars they could lose if the President isn't in their pocket . . . . They want him dead, and he is under serious risk right now. . . . He has got to push this forward. He has to win for the Constitution and for his family that might be assassinated."

Yet another big risk, says Shipp, is the global economic system suffering a financial calamity. This includes the U.S. Shipp contends,

" Russia and China are stocking up on gold . . . as they agree to stop using the U.S. dollar and go to the yuan and ruble, which means they will stop recognizing the U.S. dollar. The dollar will lose its value because of that. We have a huge debt, and by 2025, our deficit will be $30 trillion. It is impossible to pay that off. The global deficit is $245 trillion. This thing has got to burst, and it's going to burst...

Donald Trump has come out against the Deep State and Shadow Government in ways I could only dream of. I am a Trump supporter, but what he has got on his hands is a coming catastrophe. You cannot stop the collapse caused by the deficit ...

Trump will take some significant action. This is a national security issue, and he can step in and make some changes. This is a huge catastrophe, and Americans are not aware of what is coming . . . and are not ready for a financial calamity. "

Join Greg Hunter as he goes One-on-One with Former CIA Officer and whistleblower Kevin Shipp.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/KG3nliHdYmg

To Donate to USAWatchdog.com Click Here. (By the way, YouTube demonetized this video before I posted it. So, it must be good. There is lots of new information and analysis in this 80 minute interview.)

There is free information on Kevin Shipp's website called ForTheLoveofFreedom.net. At the very top of the page is a new section called "The Shipp Brief." Shipp gives a new "brief" every day. You can also scroll down and find Shipp's donation page that has multiple ways you can support his work. It's all on ForTheLoveofFreedom.net.

[Jul 29, 2019] Once you start researching the Epstein matter - not for the lurid details - but the unprecedented, jaw dropping preferential treatment of an actual human sex trafficker ( not this fake #metoo hysteria) all hope is lost.

Notable quotes:
"... The Epstein conspiracy grows worse. One of the victims filed a federal lawsuit. Once filed, this is public record. The only redactions allowed are social security numbers and the like. ..."
"... When the Miami Herald went to obtain the Motion for Summary Judgment, it was completely redacted. 137 pages of blacked out paragraphs. ..."
"... This type of redaction is unheard, unprecedented- appalling. ..."
"... If the redactions stand, we should riot in the street. We knew justice was bought, but pedophilia usually will stir up some dregs of bureaucratic slugs to action. ..."
"... Once you start researching the Epstein matter - not for the lurid details - but the unprecedented, jaw dropping preferential treatment of an actual human sex trafficker ( not this fake #metoo hysteria) – all hope is lost. ..."
"... Dozens of little girls – all poor and from fatherless backgrounds marred by parental drug abuse, suicides and physical abuse- selected and sexually devastated by Epstein- not a word. ..."
Jul 29, 2019 | www.unz.com

TKK , says: July 29, 2019 at 11:31 am GMT

The Epstein conspiracy grows worse. One of the victims filed a federal lawsuit. Once filed, this is public record. The only redactions allowed are social security numbers and the like.

When the Miami Herald went to obtain the Motion for Summary Judgment, it was completely redacted. 137 pages of blacked out paragraphs.

A motion for summary judgment is basically saying there are no material issues in dispute- nothing to litigate. This document would contain all relevant facts about the case. This type of redaction is unheard, unprecedented- appalling.

The only reason the Herald is in pursuit ( and any other MSM) is because they believed it would destroy Trump.

It's now on appeal. If the redactions stand, we should riot in the street. We knew justice was bought, but pedophilia usually will stir up some dregs of bureaucratic slugs to action.

And with a parallel to McCain, if Clinton slithers out of this- with over 27 flights on the Lolita Express- he is officially the most untouchable man in history.

Once you start researching the Epstein matter - not for the lurid details - but the unprecedented, jaw dropping preferential treatment of an actual human sex trafficker ( not this fake #metoo hysteria) – all hope is lost.

Note the strange silence from Hollywood and the elites regarding Epstein's victims, when they were wearing hair shirts over Christine Fords 30 year old accusation.

A wealthy smug scold, who looks like an exploded can of rotten biscuit dough had them weeping on camera.

Dozens of little girls – all poor and from fatherless backgrounds marred by parental drug abuse, suicides and physical abuse- selected and sexually devastated by Epstein- not a word.

[Jul 29, 2019] American Pravda John McCain, Jeffrey Epstein, and Pizzagate by Ron Unz

Notable quotes:
"... top national figures merely being attractive front-men selected for their popular appeal and their political malleability, a development that may eventually have dire consequences for the nations they lead. As an extreme example, a drunken Boris Yeltsin freely allowed the looting of Russia's entire national wealth by the handful of oligarchs who pulled his strings, and the result was the total impoverishment of the Russian people and a demographic collapse almost unprecedented in modern peacetime history. ..."
"... An obvious problem with installing puppet rulers is the risk that they will attempt to cut their strings, much like Putin soon outmaneuvered and exiled his oligarch patron Boris Berezovsky. One means of minimizing such risk is to select puppets who are so deeply compromised that they can never break free, knowing that the political self-destruct charges buried deep within their pasts could easily be triggered if they sought independence. ..."
"... I have sometimes joked with my friends that perhaps the best career move for an ambitious young politician would be to secretly commit some monstrous crime and then make sure that the hard evidence of his guilt ended up in the hands of certain powerful people, thereby assuring his rapid political rise. ..."
"... In The Dark Side of Camelot , famed investigative reporter Seymour Hersh claimed that secret blackmail evidence of JFK's extra-marital affairs probably played a crucial role in having his administration overrule the unanimous verdict of all top Pentagon advisors and award the largest military procurement contract in U.S. history to General Dynamics instead of Boeing, thereby saving the former company from likely bankruptcy and its major organized-crime shareholders from devastating financial losses. Hersh also suggests that a similar factor likely explains JFK's last-minute reversal in the choice of his Vice President, a decision that landed Lyndon Johnson on the 1960 ticket and placed him in the White House after Kennedy's 1963 assassination. ..."
"... Similar rumors swirl around events much farther back in history as well, sometimes with enormous consequences. Well-placed contemporary sources have claimed that Samuel Untermyer, a wealthy Jewish lawyer, purchased the secret correspondence between Woodrow Wilson and his longtime mistress, and that the existence of that powerful leverage may have been an important factor behind Wilson's astonishingly rapid rise from president of Princeton in 1910 to governor of New Jersey in 1911 to president of the United States in 1912. ..."
"... Without naming any names, since 2001 it has been difficult to avoid noticing that one of the most zealous and committed supporters of the Neocon party-line on all Middle Eastern foreign policy matters has been a leading Republican senator from one of the most socially-conservative Southern states, a man whose rumored personal inclinations have long circulated on the Internet. The strikingly-sudden reversal of this individual on a major policy question certainly supports these suspicions. There have also been several other such examples involving prominent Republicans. ..."
"... There are lurid rumors that the Syndicate possessed secret photos of Hoover wearing a dress and high-heels, but just a few years ago Rep. Mike Honda of San Jose desperately placed his eight-year-old transgendered grand-daughter front-and-center in his unsuccessful attempt to win reelection. ..."
"... There seems to be a great deal of evidence that powerful organizations and individuals have successfully managed to suppress credible accusations of that practice for very long periods of time if no group with substantial media influence chose to target the offenders for unmasking. ..."
"... There is also the intriguing example of Dennis Hastert. As the longest serving Republican Speaker of the House in U.S. history, holding office during 1999-2007, Hastert was third in line to the Presidency and even ranked as our nation's top Republican elected official during some of that period. Based upon my newspaper readings, he had always struck me as a rather bland and ordinary individual, with journalists sometimes even strongly hinting at his mediocrity, so that I occasionally wondered just how someone so unimpressive could have risen to such extremely high national office. ..."
"... During the summer of 2007, the Internet was ablaze with claims that Sen. John Edwards, a runner-up in the 2004 Democratic presidential primaries, had just fathered a child with his mistress, and those reports were backed by seemingly-credible visual evidence, including photos showing the married senator holding his new-born baby. Yet as the days and even the weeks went by, not a whiff of this salacious scandal ever reached the pages of any of my morning newspapers or the rest of the mainstream media although it was a top conversation topic everywhere else. ..."
"... Probably one reason I paid so little attention to the topic was the exceptionally lurid nature of the claims being made. Epstein was supposedly an enormously wealthy Wall Street financier of rather mysterious personal background and source of funds, who owned a private island and an immense New York City mansion, both regularly stocked with harems of underage girls provided for sexual purposes. He allegedly hobnobbed on a regular basis with Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew, Harvard's Alan Dershowitz, and numerous other figures in the international elite, as well as a gaggle of ordinary billionaires, frequently transporting those individuals on his personal jet known as "the Lolita Express" for the role it played in facilitating illegal secret orgies with young girls. When right-wing bloggers on obscure websites claimed that former President Clinton and the British Royals were being sexually serviced by the underage girls of a James Bond super-villain brought to life, I just assumed those accusations were the wildest sort of Internet exaggeration. ..."
"... The author of a long 2003 Epstein profile that had appeared in Vanity Fair explained that she had personally spoken to some of his victims and included their highly-credible accounts in her article, but that those portions had been stricken and removed by her timorous editors. ..."
"... As presented by these media outlets, Epstein's personal rise also seemed rather inexplicable unless he had benefited from some powerful network or similar organization. Lacking any college degree or credentials, he had somehow gotten a job teaching at one of New York City's most elite prep schools, then quickly jumped to working at a top investment bank, rising to partner with astonishing speed until he was fired a few years later for illegal activity. Despite such a scanty and doubtful record, he was soon managing money for some of America's wealthiest individuals, and keeping so much of it for himself that he was regularly described as a billionaire. According to newspaper accounts, his great specialty was "making connections for people." ..."
"... Obviously, Epstein was a ruthlessly opportunistic financial hustler. But extremely wealthy individuals must surely be surrounded by great swarms of ruthlessly opportunistic financial hustlers, and why would he have been so much more successful than all those others? Perhaps a clue comes from the offhand remark of Epstein's now-disgraced prosecutor, saying that he had been told to go very easy on the sex-trafficker because he "belonged to intelligence." The vague phrasing of that statement raises questions about whether the intelligence service may not have been one controlled by the U.S. government. ..."
"... Philip Giraldi, a highly-regarded former CIA officer, put things very plainly when he suggested that Epstein had probably been working for the Israeli Mossad, operating "honey traps" to obtain blackmail information on all the wealthy and powerful individuals whom he regularly plied with underage girls. Indeed, longtime Canadian journalist Eric Margolis recounted his early 1990s visit to Epstein's enormous NYC mansion, in which he had barely crossed the threshold before he was offered an "intimate massage" by one of the many young girls there, presumably in a bedroom well-stocked with hidden cameras. ..."
"... Given my personal lack of interest in the Epstein case, then or now, perhaps a few of these details may be garbled, but it seems undeniable that he was exactly the sort of remarkable renegade often faced by Agent 007 in the movies, and the true facts will presumably come out at his trial. ..."
"... John Podesta had been a longtime fixture in DC political circles, becoming chief of staff to President Bill Clinton in 1998, and afterward remaining one of the most powerful figures in the Democratic Party establishment. While serving as as chairman of Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign, his apparent carelessness with the password security of his Gmail account allowed it to easily be hacked, and tens of thousands of his personal emails were soon published on WikiLeaks. A swarm of young anti-Clinton activists began scouring this treasure-trove of semi-confidential information, seeking evidence of mundane bribery and corruption, but instead they came across some quite odd exchanges, seemingly written in coded language. ..."
"... Now use of coded language in a supposedly secure private email account raises all sorts of natural suspicions regarding what might have been under discussion, with the most likely possibilities being illegal drugs or sex. But most of the references didn't seem to fit the former category, and in our remarkably libertine era, in which political candidates compete for the right to be Grand Marshal at an annual Gay Pride Parade, one of the few sexual activities still discussed only in whispers would seem to be pedophilia, with some of the very strange remarks possibly hinting at this. ..."
"... The researchers also soon discovered that his brother Tony Podesta, one of the wealthiest and most successful lobbyists in DC, had extremely odd taste in art. Major items of his very extensive personal collection seemed to represent tortured or murdered bodies, and one of his favorite artists was best known for paintings depicting young children being held captive, lying dead, or suffering under severe distress. ..."
"... Furthermore, some of the rather suspiciously-worded Podesta emails referred to events held at a local DC pizza parlor, greatly favored by the Democratic Party elite, whose owner was the gay former boyfriend of David Brock, a leading Democratic activist. The public Instagram account of that pizza-entrepreneur apparently contained numerous images of young children, sometimes tied or bound, with those images frequently labeled by hashtags using the traditional gay slang for underage sexual targets ..."
"... Closely connected Instagram accounts also included pictures of young children, sometimes shown amid piles of high-value currency, with queries about how much those particular children might be worth. None of this seemed illegal, but surely any reasonable person would regard the material as extremely suspicious. ..."
"... oddly enough, GQ Magazine had ranked that gay pizza parlor owner with a strange focus on young children as being one of the 50 most powerful people in our national capital, placing him far ahead of many Cabinet members, Senators, Congressional Chairmen, Supreme Court justices, and top lobbyists. Was his pizza really that delicious? ..."
"... Some of the best summaries of the Pizzagate case were produced by a young British YouTuber named Tara McCarthy, whose work was published under the name of "Reality Calls," and her videos were viewed hundreds of thousands of times. Although her channel was eventually banned and her videos purged, copies were later reloaded to other accounts, both on YouTube and BitChute. Some of the evidence she presents seemed rather innocuous or speculative to me and other elements were probably based upon her unfamiliarity with American society and culture. But a great deal of extremely suspicious material remains, and I would suggest that people watch the videos and decide for themselves. ..."
Jul 29, 2019 | www.unz.com

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...The Arizona senator had traded on his national reputation as our best-known former POW to bury the story of those abandoned prisoners, permitting America's political establishment to escape serious embarrassment. As a result, Sen. McCain earned the lush rewards of our generous ruling elites, much like his own father Admiral John S. McCain, Sr., who had led the cover-up of the deliberate 1967 Israeli attack on the U.S.S. Liberty , which killed or wounded over 200 American servicemen.

As publisher of The American Conservative , I ran Schanberg's remarkable piece as a cover story, and across several websites over the years it has surely been read many hundreds of thousands of times, including a huge spike around the time of McCain's death. I therefore find it rather difficult to believe that the many journalists investigating McCain's background might have remained unaware of this material. Yet no hints of these facts were provided in any of the articles appearing in any remotely prominent media outlets as can be seen by searching for web pages containing "McCain and Schanberg" dated around the time of the Senator's passing.

John McCain and the POW Cover-Up Sydney Schanberg • May 25, 2010 • 8,200 Words

Schanberg's journalistic stature had hardly been forgotten by his former colleagues. Upon his death a couple of years ago, the Times ran a very long and glowing obituary , and a few months later I attended the memorial tribute to his life and career held at the New York Times headquarters building, which more than two hundred prominent journalists mostly from his own generation, including those of the highest rank. Times Publisher Arthur Sulzberger, Jr. gave a speech describing how as a young man he had always so greatly admired Schanberg and had been mortified by the unfortunate circumstances of his departure from the family's newspaper. Former Executive Editor Joseph Lelyveld recounted the many years he had worked closely with the man he had long considered his closest friend and colleague, someone whom he almost seemed to regard as his older brother. But during the two hours of praise and remembrance scarcely a single word was uttered in public about the gigantic story that had occupied the last two decades of Schanberg's celebrated career.

This same blanket of media silence also enveloped the very serious accusations regarding McCain's own Vietnam War record. A few years ago, I drew upon the Times and other fully mainstream sources to strongly suggest that McCain's stories of his torture as a POW were probably fictional, invented to serve as a cover and an excuse for the very real record of his wartime collaboration with his Communist captors. Indeed, at the time our American media reported his activities as one of the leading propagandists of our North Vietnamese foes, but these facts were later flushed down the memory-hole. McCain's father then ranked as one of America's top military officers, and it seems likely that his personal political intervention ensured that the official narrative of his son's wartime record was transmuted from traitor to war-hero, thereby allowing the younger McCain to later embark upon his celebrated political career.

John McCain: When "Tokyo Rose" Ran for President Ron Unz • March 9, 2015 • 4,200 Words

The story of the abandoned Vietnam POWs and McCain's own Communist propaganda broadcasts hardly exhaust the catalog of the major skeletons in the late Senator's closet. McCain was regularly described by reporters as being remarkably hot-headed and having a violent temper, but the national press left it to the alternative media to investigate the real-life implications of those rather suggestive phrases.

In a September 1, 2008 Counterpunch expose later published online , Alexander Cockburn reported that interviews with two emergency room physicians in Phoenix revealed that around the time that McCain was sucked into the political maelstrom of the Keating Five Scandal, his wife Cindy was admitted to her local hospital suffering from a black eye, facial bruises, and scratches consistent with physical violence, and this same situation occurred two additional times over the next few years. Cockburn also noted several other highly suspicious marital incidents during the years that followed, including the Senator's wife appearing with a bandaged wrist and her arm in a sling not long after she joined her husband on the 2008 campaign trail, an injury reported by our strangely incurious political journalists as being due to "excessive hand-shaking." It's an odd situation when a tiny leftist newsletter can easily uncover facts that so totally eluded the vast resources of our entire national press corps. If there were credible reports that Melania Trump had been repeatedly admitted to local emergency rooms suffering from black eyes and facial bruises, would our corporate media have remained so uninterested in any further investigation?

McCain had first won his Arizona Congressional seat in 1982, not long after he moved into the state, with his campaign bankrolled by his father-in-law's beer-distributorship fortune, and that inheritance eventually elevated the McCain household into one of the wealthiest in the Senate. But although the Senator spent the next quarter-century in public life, even nearly upsetting George W. Bush for the 2000 Republican presidential nomination, only in late 2008 did I learn from the Times that the Phoenix beer-monopoly in question, then valued at around $200 million, had accrued to a man whose lifelong business partner Kemper Marley had long been deeply linked to organized crime . Indeed, close associates of that latter individual had been convicted by a jury of the car-bomb assassination of a Phoenix investigative crime reporter just a few years before McCain's sudden triumphal entrance into Arizona politics. Perhaps such guilt-by-association is improper, but would our national press-corps have remained silent if the personal fortune of our current president were only a step or two removed from the car-bomb assassins of a nosy journalist who died while investigating mobsters?

As I gradually became aware of these enormities casually hidden in McCain's background, my initial reaction was disbelief that someone whose record was so deeply tarnished in so many different ways could ever have reached such a pinnacle of American political power. But as the media continued to avert its eyes from these newly revealed facts, even those disclosed in the pages of the Times itself, I gradually began to consider matters in a different light. Perhaps McCain's elevation to great American political power was not in spite of the devastating facts littering his personal past, but because of them. As I wrote a few years ago:

Today when we consider the major countries of the world we see that in many cases the official leaders are also the leaders in actuality: Vladimir Putin calls the shots in Russia, Xi Jinping and his top Politburo colleagues do the same in China, and so forth. However, in America and in some other Western countries, this seems to be less and less the case, with top national figures merely being attractive front-men selected for their popular appeal and their political malleability, a development that may eventually have dire consequences for the nations they lead. As an extreme example, a drunken Boris Yeltsin freely allowed the looting of Russia's entire national wealth by the handful of oligarchs who pulled his strings, and the result was the total impoverishment of the Russian people and a demographic collapse almost unprecedented in modern peacetime history.

An obvious problem with installing puppet rulers is the risk that they will attempt to cut their strings, much like Putin soon outmaneuvered and exiled his oligarch patron Boris Berezovsky. One means of minimizing such risk is to select puppets who are so deeply compromised that they can never break free, knowing that the political self-destruct charges buried deep within their pasts could easily be triggered if they sought independence.

I have sometimes joked with my friends that perhaps the best career move for an ambitious young politician would be to secretly commit some monstrous crime and then make sure that the hard evidence of his guilt ended up in the hands of certain powerful people, thereby assuring his rapid political rise.

In physics, when an object deviates from its expected trajectory for inexplicable reasons, we assume that some unknown force has been at work, and tracing the record of such deviations may help to determine the characteristic properties of the latter. Over the years, I've increasingly become aware of such strange ideological deviations in public policy, and although some are readily explained, others suggest the existence of hidden forces far beneath the surface of our regular political world. This same situation may have occurred throughout our history, and sometimes the political decisions that so baffled contemporaries eventually came to light decades later.

In The Dark Side of Camelot , famed investigative reporter Seymour Hersh claimed that secret blackmail evidence of JFK's extra-marital affairs probably played a crucial role in having his administration overrule the unanimous verdict of all top Pentagon advisors and award the largest military procurement contract in U.S. history to General Dynamics instead of Boeing, thereby saving the former company from likely bankruptcy and its major organized-crime shareholders from devastating financial losses. Hersh also suggests that a similar factor likely explains JFK's last-minute reversal in the choice of his Vice President, a decision that landed Lyndon Johnson on the 1960 ticket and placed him in the White House after Kennedy's 1963 assassination.

As I recently mentioned , in the 1950s Sen. Estes Kefauver shifted the focus of his Organized Crime Hearings after the Chicago Syndicate confronted him with the photographs of his sexual encounter with two mob-supplied women. A decade later, California Attorney-General Stanley Mosk suffered much the same fate, with the facts remaining hidden for over twenty years.

Similar rumors swirl around events much farther back in history as well, sometimes with enormous consequences. Well-placed contemporary sources have claimed that Samuel Untermyer, a wealthy Jewish lawyer, purchased the secret correspondence between Woodrow Wilson and his longtime mistress, and that the existence of that powerful leverage may have been an important factor behind Wilson's astonishingly rapid rise from president of Princeton in 1910 to governor of New Jersey in 1911 to president of the United States in 1912. Once in office, Wilson signed the controversial legislation establishing the Federal Reserve system in 1913 and also named Louis Brandeis as the first Jewish member of the U.S. Supreme Court despite the public opposition of nearly our entire legal establishment. Wilson's swiftly changing views on American involvement in the First World War may also have influenced by such personal pressures rather than solely determined by his perceptions of the national interest.

Without naming any names, since 2001 it has been difficult to avoid noticing that one of the most zealous and committed supporters of the Neocon party-line on all Middle Eastern foreign policy matters has been a leading Republican senator from one of the most socially-conservative Southern states, a man whose rumored personal inclinations have long circulated on the Internet. The strikingly-sudden reversal of this individual on a major policy question certainly supports these suspicions. There have also been several other such examples involving prominent Republicans.

But consider the far different situation of Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts, who in 1987 became the first member of the Congress to voluntarily admit that he was gay. Not long afterward, a notorious scandal erupted when it was revealed that his own DC townhouse had been used by a former boyfriend as headquarters for a male-prostitution ring. Frank claimed to have had no knowledge of that sordid situation, and his liberal Massachusetts constituents apparently accepted that, since he was resoundingly reelected and went on to serve another 24 years in Congress. But surely if Frank had been a Republican from a socially-conservative district, anyone possessing such evidence would have totally controlled his political survival, and with Frank spending several years as Chairman of the very powerful House Financial Services Committee, the value of such a hold would have been enormous.

This demonstrates the undeniable reality that what constitutes effective blackmail material may vary tremendously across different eras and regions. Today, it is widely accepted that longtime FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover lived his life as a deeply-closeted homosexual and there seem to be serious claims that he also had some black ancestry, with the secret evidence of these facts probably helping to explain why for decades he stubbornly refused to admit the existence of American organized crime or focus his G-men on efforts to uproot it. But in today's America, he surely would have proudly proclaimed his sexuality and racial ancestry in an New York Times Magazine cover-story, rightly believing that they enhanced his political invulnerability on the national stage. There are lurid rumors that the Syndicate possessed secret photos of Hoover wearing a dress and high-heels, but just a few years ago Rep. Mike Honda of San Jose desperately placed his eight-year-old transgendered grand-daughter front-and-center in his unsuccessful attempt to win reelection.

The decades have certainly softened the effectiveness of many forms of blackmail, but pedophilia still ranks as an extremely powerful taboo. There seems to be a great deal of evidence that powerful organizations and individuals have successfully managed to suppress credible accusations of that practice for very long periods of time if no group with substantial media influence chose to target the offenders for unmasking.

The most obvious example is the Catholic Church, and the failings of its American and international hierarchy in that regard have regularly made the front pages of our leading newspapers. But until the early 2000s and the breakthrough reporting of the Boston Globe as recounted in the Oscar-winning film Spotlight , the Church had routinely fended off such scandals.

Consider also the remarkable case of British television personality Sir Jimmy Savile , one of his country's most admired celebrities, eventually knighted for his public service. Only shortly after his death at age 84 did the press begin revealing that he had probably molested many hundreds of children during his long career. Accusations by his young victims had stretched back across forty years, but his criminal activities had seemingly been protected by his wealth and celebrity, along with his numerous supporters in the media.

There is also the intriguing example of Dennis Hastert. As the longest serving Republican Speaker of the House in U.S. history, holding office during 1999-2007, Hastert was third in line to the Presidency and even ranked as our nation's top Republican elected official during some of that period. Based upon my newspaper readings, he had always struck me as a rather bland and ordinary individual, with journalists sometimes even strongly hinting at his mediocrity, so that I occasionally wondered just how someone so unimpressive could have risen to such extremely high national office.

Then a few years ago, he was suddenly thrust back into the headlines, arrested by the FBI and charged with financial crimes relating to what apparently had been his past history of abusing young boys, at least one of whom had committed suicide, with the federal judge who sent him to prison denouncing him as "a serial child molester" at sentencing . Perhaps I've led an overly sheltered life, but my impression is that only a tiny sliver of Americans have had a long record of child molestation, and all things being equal, it seems rather unlikely that someone of such a background but who possesses no other great talents or skills would rise to near the absolute top of our political heap. So perhaps not all things were otherwise equal. If some powerful elements held the hard evidence that placed a particular elected official under their total control, making great efforts to elevate him to Speaker of the House would be a very shrewd investment.

At times the unwillingness of our national media to see major stories in front of their very noses reaches ridiculous extremes. During the summer of 2007, the Internet was ablaze with claims that Sen. John Edwards, a runner-up in the 2004 Democratic presidential primaries, had just fathered a child with his mistress, and those reports were backed by seemingly-credible visual evidence, including photos showing the married senator holding his new-born baby. Yet as the days and even the weeks went by, not a whiff of this salacious scandal ever reached the pages of any of my morning newspapers or the rest of the mainstream media although it was a top conversation topic everywhere else. Eventually, the National Enquirer , a notorious gossip tabloid, scored a journalistic first , by receiving a Pulitzer Prize nomination for breaking the story that no other outlet seemed willing to cover. Would our media have similarly averted its eyes from a newborn baby Trump coming from the wrong side of the bed?

Over the years, it became increasingly obvious to me that nearly all elements of our national media were often quite willing to enlist in a "conspiracy of silence" to minimize or entirely ignore stories of tremendous potential interest to their readership and major public importance. I could easily have doubled or tripled the number of such notable examples I provided above without much effort. Moreover, it is quite intriguing that so many of these cases involve the sort of criminal or sexual misbehavior that would be ideally suited for blackmailing powerful individuals who are less likely to be vulnerable to other influences. So perhaps many of the elected officials situated at the top of our democratic system merely reign as political puppets, dancing to invisible strings.

Given my awareness of this remarkable track-record of major media cover-ups, I'm ashamed to admit that I had paid almost no attention to the Jeffrey Epstein case until it exploded across our national headlines earlier this month, suddenly becoming one of the biggest news stories in our country.

For many years, reports about Epstein and his illegal sex-ring had regularly circulated on the fringes of the Internet, with agitated commenters citing the case as proof of the dark and malevolent forces that secretly controlled our corrupted political system. But I almost entirely ignored these discussions, and I'm not sure that I ever once clicked on a single link.

Probably one reason I paid so little attention to the topic was the exceptionally lurid nature of the claims being made. Epstein was supposedly an enormously wealthy Wall Street financier of rather mysterious personal background and source of funds, who owned a private island and an immense New York City mansion, both regularly stocked with harems of underage girls provided for sexual purposes. He allegedly hobnobbed on a regular basis with Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew, Harvard's Alan Dershowitz, and numerous other figures in the international elite, as well as a gaggle of ordinary billionaires, frequently transporting those individuals on his personal jet known as "the Lolita Express" for the role it played in facilitating illegal secret orgies with young girls. When right-wing bloggers on obscure websites claimed that former President Clinton and the British Royals were being sexually serviced by the underage girls of a James Bond super-villain brought to life, I just assumed those accusations were the wildest sort of Internet exaggeration.

Moreover, these angry writers did occasionally let slip that the fiendish target of their wrath had already been charged in a Florida courtroom, eventually pleading guilty to a single sexual offense and receiving a thirteen month jail sentence, mitigated by very generous work-release provisions. This hardly seemed like the sort of judicial punishment that would lend credence to the fantastical accusations against him. If Epstein had already been investigated by law enforcement authorities and given the sentence one might expect for writing a bad check, I found it quite unlikely that he was actually the Goldfinger or Dr. No that deluded Internet activists made him out to be.

Then these same wild, implausible claims previously found only on anonymous comment-threads were suddenly repeated as solid fact on the front pages of the Times and all my other morning newspapers, and the former federal prosecutor who had signed off on Epstein's legal slap-on-the-wrist was forced to resign from the Trump Cabinet. Epstein's safe had been found to contain a huge cache of child-pornography and other highly suspicious material, and he was quickly rearrested on charges that could send him to federal prison for decades. Prestigious media outlets described Epstein as the mastermind of a huge sex-trafficking ring, and numerous underage victims began coming forward, telling their stories of how he had molested, raped, and pimped them. The author of a long 2003 Epstein profile that had appeared in Vanity Fair explained that she had personally spoken to some of his victims and included their highly-credible accounts in her article, but that those portions had been stricken and removed by her timorous editors.

As presented by these media outlets, Epstein's personal rise also seemed rather inexplicable unless he had benefited from some powerful network or similar organization. Lacking any college degree or credentials, he had somehow gotten a job teaching at one of New York City's most elite prep schools, then quickly jumped to working at a top investment bank, rising to partner with astonishing speed until he was fired a few years later for illegal activity. Despite such a scanty and doubtful record, he was soon managing money for some of America's wealthiest individuals, and keeping so much of it for himself that he was regularly described as a billionaire. According to newspaper accounts, his great specialty was "making connections for people."

Obviously, Epstein was a ruthlessly opportunistic financial hustler. But extremely wealthy individuals must surely be surrounded by great swarms of ruthlessly opportunistic financial hustlers, and why would he have been so much more successful than all those others? Perhaps a clue comes from the offhand remark of Epstein's now-disgraced prosecutor, saying that he had been told to go very easy on the sex-trafficker because he "belonged to intelligence." The vague phrasing of that statement raises questions about whether the intelligence service may not have been one controlled by the U.S. government.

Philip Giraldi, a highly-regarded former CIA officer, put things very plainly when he suggested that Epstein had probably been working for the Israeli Mossad, operating "honey traps" to obtain blackmail information on all the wealthy and powerful individuals whom he regularly plied with underage girls. Indeed, longtime Canadian journalist Eric Margolis recounted his early 1990s visit to Epstein's enormous NYC mansion, in which he had barely crossed the threshold before he was offered an "intimate massage" by one of the many young girls there, presumably in a bedroom well-stocked with hidden cameras.

Given my personal lack of interest in the Epstein case, then or now, perhaps a few of these details may be garbled, but it seems undeniable that he was exactly the sort of remarkable renegade often faced by Agent 007 in the movies, and the true facts will presumably come out at his trial. Or perhaps not. Whether he lives to see trial is not entirely clear given the considerable number of powerful individuals who might prefer that hidden facts remain hidden, and the Friday newspapers reported that Epstein had been found injured and unconscious in his prison cell.

When one seemingly implausible pedophilia scandal has suddenly jumped from obscure corners of the Internet to the front pages of our leading newspapers, we must naturally begin to wonder whether others might not eventually do the same. And a very likely candidate comes to mind, one that seemed to me far better documented than the vague accusations being thrown about over the last few years against a wealthy financier once given a thirteen-month jail sentence in Florida a decade earlier.

I don't use Social Media myself, but near the end of the 2016 presidential campaign, I gradually began seeing more and more Trump supporters referring to something called "Pizzagate," a burgeoning sexual scandal that they claimed would bring down Hillary Clinton and many of the top leaders of her party, with the chatter actually increasing after Trump was elected. As near as I could tell, the whole bizarre theory had grown up on the far-right fringe of the Internet, with the utterly fantastical plot having something to do with stolen secret emails, DC pizza parlors, and a ring of pedophiles situated near the top of the Democratic Party. But given all the other strange and unlikely things I'd gradually discovered about our history, it didn't seem like something I could necessarily dismiss out of hand.

At the beginning of December, a right-wing blogger produced a lengthy exposition of the Pizzagate charges, which finally gave me some understanding of what was actually under discussion, and I soon made arrangements to republish his article. It quickly attracted a great deal of interest, and some websites pointed to it as the best single introduction to the scandal for a general audience.

Pizzagate Aedon Cassiel • December 2, 2016 • 3,100 Words

A couple of weeks later, I republished an additional article by the same writer, describing a long list of previous pedophilia scandals that had occurred in elite American and European political circles. Although many of these seemed to be solidly documented, nearly all of them had received minimal coverage by our mainstream media outlets. And if such political pedophile rings had existed in the relatively recent past, was it so totally implausible that there might be another one simmering beneath the surface of today's Washington DC?

Precedents for Pizzagate Aedon Cassiel • December 23, 2016 • 6,200 Words

Those interested in the details of the Pizzagate Hypothesis are advised to read these articles, especially the first one, but I might as well provide a brief summary.

John Podesta had been a longtime fixture in DC political circles, becoming chief of staff to President Bill Clinton in 1998, and afterward remaining one of the most powerful figures in the Democratic Party establishment. While serving as as chairman of Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign, his apparent carelessness with the password security of his Gmail account allowed it to easily be hacked, and tens of thousands of his personal emails were soon published on WikiLeaks. A swarm of young anti-Clinton activists began scouring this treasure-trove of semi-confidential information, seeking evidence of mundane bribery and corruption, but instead they came across some quite odd exchanges, seemingly written in coded language.

Now use of coded language in a supposedly secure private email account raises all sorts of natural suspicions regarding what might have been under discussion, with the most likely possibilities being illegal drugs or sex. But most of the references didn't seem to fit the former category, and in our remarkably libertine era, in which political candidates compete for the right to be Grand Marshal at an annual Gay Pride Parade, one of the few sexual activities still discussed only in whispers would seem to be pedophilia, with some of the very strange remarks possibly hinting at this.

The researchers also soon discovered that his brother Tony Podesta, one of the wealthiest and most successful lobbyists in DC, had extremely odd taste in art. Major items of his very extensive personal collection seemed to represent tortured or murdered bodies, and one of his favorite artists was best known for paintings depicting young children being held captive, lying dead, or suffering under severe distress. Such peculiar artwork obviously isn't illegal, but it might naturally arouse some suspicions. And oddly enough, arch-Democrat Podesta had long been a close personal friend of former Republican Speaker and convicted child-molester Dennis Hastert, welcoming him back into DC society after his release from prison.

Furthermore, some of the rather suspiciously-worded Podesta emails referred to events held at a local DC pizza parlor, greatly favored by the Democratic Party elite, whose owner was the gay former boyfriend of David Brock, a leading Democratic activist. The public Instagram account of that pizza-entrepreneur apparently contained numerous images of young children, sometimes tied or bound, with those images frequently labeled by hashtags using the traditional gay slang for underage sexual targets. Some photos showed the fellow wearing a tee-shirt bearing the statement "I Love Children" in French, and by a very odd coincidence, his possibly assumed name was phonetically identical to that very same French phrase, thus proclaiming to the world that he was "a lover of children." Closely connected Instagram accounts also included pictures of young children, sometimes shown amid piles of high-value currency, with queries about how much those particular children might be worth. None of this seemed illegal, but surely any reasonable person would regard the material as extremely suspicious.

DC is sometimes described as "Powertown," being the seat of the individuals who make America's laws and govern our society, with local political journalists being closely attuned to the relative status of such individuals. And oddly enough, GQ Magazine had ranked that gay pizza parlor owner with a strange focus on young children as being one of the 50 most powerful people in our national capital, placing him far ahead of many Cabinet members, Senators, Congressional Chairmen, Supreme Court justices, and top lobbyists. Was his pizza really that delicious?

These few paragraphs provide merely a sliver of the large quantity of highly-suspicious material surrounding various powerful figures at the apex of the DC political world. A vast cloud of billowing smoke is certainly no proof of any fire, but only a fool would completely ignore it without attempting further investigation.

I usually regard videos as a poor means of imparting serious information, far less effective and meaningful than the simple printed word. But the overwhelming bulk of the evidence supporting the Pizzagate Hypothesis consists of visual images and screen shots, and these are naturally suited to a video presentation.

Some of the best summaries of the Pizzagate case were produced by a young British YouTuber named Tara McCarthy, whose work was published under the name of "Reality Calls," and her videos were viewed hundreds of thousands of times. Although her channel was eventually banned and her videos purged, copies were later reloaded to other accounts, both on YouTube and BitChute. Some of the evidence she presents seemed rather innocuous or speculative to me and other elements were probably based upon her unfamiliarity with American society and culture. But a great deal of extremely suspicious material remains, and I would suggest that people watch the videos and decide for themselves.

Around the same time that I first became familiar with the details of the Pizzagate controversy, the topic also started reaching the pages of my morning newspapers, but in an rather strange manner. Political stories began giving a sentence or two to the "Pizzagate hoax," describing it as a ridiculous right-wing "conspiracy theory" but excluding all relevant details. I had an eery feeling that some unseen hand had suddenly flipped a switch causing the entire mainstream media to begin displaying identical signs declaring "Pizzagate Is False -- Nothing To See There!" in brightly flashing neon. I couldn't recall any previous example of such a strange media reaction to some obscure Internet controversy.

Articles in the Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times also suddenly appeared denouncing the entirety of the alternative media -- Left, Right, and Libertarian -- as "fake news" websites promoting Russian propaganda , while urging that their content be blocked by all patriotic Internet giants such as Facebook, Twitter, and Google. Prior to that moment, I'd never even heard the term "fake news" but suddenly it was ubiquitous across the media, once again almost as if some unseen hand had suddenly flipped a switch.

I naturally began to wonder whether the timing of these two strange developments was entirely coincidental. Perhaps Pizzagate was indeed true and struck so deeply at the core of our hugely corrupted political system that the media efforts to suppress it were approaching the point of hysteria.

Not long afterward, Tara McCarthy's detailed Pizzagate videos were purged from YouTube. This was among the very first instances of video content being banned despite fully conforming to all existing YouTube guidelines, another deeply suspicious development.

I also noticed that mere mention of Pizzagate had become politically lethal. Donald Trump had selected Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, as his National Security Advisor, and Flynn's son served as the latter's chief of staff. The younger Flynn happened to Tweet out a couple of links to Pizzagate stories, pointing out that the accusations hadn't yet been actually investigated let alone disproven, and very soon afterward, he was purged from the Trump transition team, foreshadowing his father's fall a few weeks later. It seemed astonishing to me that a few simple Tweets about an Internet controversy could have such huge real-life impact near the top of our government.

The media continued its uniform drumbeat of "Pizzagate Has Been Disproven!" but we were never told how or by whom, and I was not the only individual to notice the hollowness of such denunciations. An award-winning investigative journalist named Ben Swann at a CBS station in Atlanta broadcast a short television segment summarizing the Pizzagate controversy and noting that contrary to widespread media claims, Pizzagate had neither been investigated nor debunked. Swann was almost immediately purged by CBS but a copy of his television segment remains available for viewing on the Internet.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/-GZFHLAcG8A?feature=oembed

There is an old wartime proverb that enemy flak is always heaviest over the most important target, and the remarkably ferocious wave of attacks and censorship against anyone broaching the subject of Pizzagate seems to raise obvious dark suspicions. Indeed, the simultaneous waves of attacks against all alternative media outlets as "Russian propaganda outlets" laid the basis for the continuing regime of Social Media censorship that has become a central aspect of today's world.

Pizzagate may or may not turn out to be true, but the ongoing Internet crackdown has similarly engulfed topics of a somewhat similar nature but with vastly stronger documentation. Although I don't use Twitter myself, I encountered the obvious implications of this new censorship policy following McCain's death last August. The senator had died on a Saturday afternoon, and readership of Sydney Schanberg's long 2008 expose quickly exploded, with numerous individuals Tweeting out the story and a large fraction of our incoming traffic therefore coming from Twitter. This continued until the following morning, at which point the huge flood of Tweets continued to grow, but all incoming Twitter traffic suddenly and permanently vanished, presumably because "shadow banning" had rendered those Tweets invisible. My own article on McCain's very doubtful war record simultaneously suffered the same fate, as did numerous other articles of a controversial nature that we published later that same week.

Perhaps that censorship decision was made by some ignorant young intern at Twitter, casually choosing to ban as "hate speech" or "fake news" a massively-documented 8,400 word expose by one of America's most distinguished journalists, a Pulitzer-prize winning former top editor at The New York Times .

Or perhaps certain political-puppeteers who had spent decades controlling that late Arizona senator sought to ensure that their political puppet-strings remained invisible even after his death.

Related Reading:

John McCain and the POW Cover-Up by Sydney Schanberg John McCain: When "Tokyo Rose" Ran for President Pizzagate by Aedon Cassiel What We Know About Pizzagate So Far by Tara McCarthy Precedents for Pizzagate by Aedon Cassiel

Carlton Meyer , says: Website July 29, 2019 at 4:13 am GMT

My tribute to the late Senator, from my blog:

Aug 27, 2018 -- The Truth about John McCain

John McCain was a leading American neocon who always advocated war and ever greater military spending for a growing worldwide empire. This made him a successful politician and explains why our neocon corporate media praises him and refuses to reports facts about his life. By several accounts ("The Nightingale Song" for example) he only got into the Naval Academy for a free college degree because dad and grandfather were admirals, and should have been kicked out several times. He graduated near the bottom of his class and was a lousy pilot who got into trouble often and crashed two aircraft because of neglect. He was shot down on his first tour over Vietnam while bombing a civilian power plant, and getting captured is not heroic.

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What happened in captivity is controversial, but upon returning from POW status he passed a physical and regained flight status as a pilot. Yet after he finished 20 years of service that allowed generous retirement pay, he obtained a 100% VA disability rating allowing him to collect some $40,000 a year tax free too! The LA Times mentioned this when McCain insisted he was fit to serve as President. For the past two decades, he hauled in over $240,000 a year from the Feds for military retirement, 100% VA disability, social security retirement, while working full-time in the US Senate. He was paid for being retired, disabled, and gainfully employed! This is textbook case of why our system needs reform to protect taxpayers from rich welfare kings like McCain.

McCain's loyal wife was disabled in a serious auto accident while he was a POW. Soon after he returned, McCain dumped her for a wealthy woman 20 years younger. The Reagans were so angry they never spoke to him again. He then married his new babe before he officially got divorced, so there's that bigamy thing. McCain used his wife's family money to run for Congress and quickly got into trouble with the Keating Five scandal. McCain got $112,000 in "campaign contributions" and an equal amount of luxury perks from one of our nation's leading fraudsters. In return, he helped change laws and threatened regulators to allow this multi-billion real estate scam to grow.

I don't know why any Arizonian voted for this crazed man, especially since he was a big advocate for open borders. At a union meeting, he told workers illegals are needed because Americans are too lazy to work farm fields, even for $50 an hour. McCain never labored his entire life, always on the government dole earning ten times minimum wage worker pay, whose increase he opposed.

McCain grew up wealthy and enjoyed free government health care his entire life, yet thought it nothing workers deserve. While running for President and attacking programs for the poor, a reporter asked how many houses he owned. He was unsure, but thought maybe seven. But his worst damage was to oppose any attempt at world peace, often demanding that the USA bomb the neocon designated villain of the year, currently Iran. McCain was a key player in the senseless deaths of thousands of American GIs and a million foreigners over the past two decades. He will not be missed.

Sep 2, 2018 -- John McCain Will Not Be Missed

As a follow-up to my Aug 27th blog, I ask people to name McCain's most important accomplishment during his long political career. They can think of none, but the TV tells them McCain was great because he was a neocon. Senator Paul Laxalt saw more combat than McCain and had an equally long and distinguished career. He was not a crazed neocon so our media barely reported his death last month.

Here are two examples of McCain's bad character just this past year. McCain had always opposed Obamacare and campaigned against it. The Republicans had tried to repeal it for years. The election of President Trump also brought in more Republican congressmen. The House easily repealed it, and the Senate finally had a majority to vote for a partial repeal. This would be a big victory for the Republicans led by President Trump. When the vote was held, McCain shocked everyone and voted against it, thus abandoning his principles and backstabbing his party! This was applauded by the Democrats and the insurance companies who profit from Obamacare. They praised McCain as a "maverick", although everyone knows this was done just to thwart a Trump victory.

On his deathbed, McCain directed his staff not to invite his Presidential running mate Sarah Palin to his funeral. She campaigned for him as a loyal teammate and never said a bad word about McCain during the campaign or after their loss. McCain blamed her for his loss and expressed this in a childish manner. Allow me to summarize his life. John McCain was a selfish, spoiled brat who had no sense of decency.

Richard Wave , says: July 29, 2019 at 4:15 am GMT
Another great article, Ron.

One of the most blatant examples of news media's silence on a topic of great national interest is the lack of coverage of closed-door "globalist" meetings like Bilderberg (which is attended by employees of such publications as The New York Times and Washington Post .)
The overheard conversation between Angela Merkel and Mark Zuckerberg on what Facebook can do to further her immigration agenda also received astonishingly little coverage from the establishment press:

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/30/angela-merkel-caught-on-hot-mic-confronting-mark-z/

Alden , says: July 29, 2019 at 4:28 am GMT
If you look closely at Hoover's pictures it's hard to miss the kinky hair, broad nose and just something about the bone structure of his face that reveals some negro ancestry. There's a high school picture of him in some kind of band or cadet uniform that makes his bit of black blood obvious.

That Mayor Moscone of San Francisco who was shot had a thing for 11-13 black girls, small ones. He liked to beat them up a bit too. Probably not as badly as the bearings their mothers face them all their lives. His driver was a district attorney investigator who had to drive him to the projects and Protero Silver Av neighborhoods to meet his little friends. He met them at their mothers homes. I assume the mothers consented and some pimps arranged things.

One time Mayor Moscone drive himself to the Sunnyvale projects. While he was inside with his little friend some black guys removed all the tires from his city car and he had to call the police to drive him home.

He had 4 or 5 kids, Catholic Church attendance catholic schools the whole ostentatious Italian Catholic thing but he liked sex with those really young black girls in their project homes.

Miro23 , says: July 29, 2019 at 4:46 am GMT

But as the media continued to avert its eyes from these newly revealed facts, even those disclosed in the pages of the Times itself, I gradually began to consider matters in a different light. Perhaps McCain's elevation to great American political power was not in spite of the devastating facts littering his personal past, but because of them.

Agree with this. The message from the McCain funeral was that the blackmailed US political class would be well looked after -right to the end -- if they remained docile and obedient and followed their scripts.

For "War Hero" McCain, it was his unswerving hard line calling for the destruction of Iran.

But, the Zio-Glob still failed to get their war through McCain, and they also failed to get it through Hillary Clinton. Both of them were rejected by voters despite massive media support. This points to a basic problem that the Empire's has with Democracy. The public clearly doesn't want another ME war, and is now aware that it was tricked into Iraq (WMD), and significantly, their (the public's) resistance to war is sufficiently strong enough to overcome massed MSM propaganda pushing the other way.

If the MSM can't swing it, then they need to get a compromised candidate elected on an anti-war and immigration control platform, who then does a 180º turn when in office. Trump wasn't their candidate (which suggests that he's clean), and (so far) he hasn't enabled a war with Iran, so what happens with him is an open question.

Also agree that the media reaction to the Pizzagate (pedophilia) story was one of extreme sensitivity -- almost panic, with a massive and coordinated overreaction. This suggests that Pizzagate is in fact the nightmare subject at the root of American politician's worst dreams.

Jimmy R , says: July 29, 2019 at 4:52 am GMT

The most obvious example is the Catholic Church, and the failings of its American and international hierarchy in that regard have regularly made the front pages of our leading newspapers. But until the early 2000s and the breakthrough reporting of the Boston Globe as recounted in the Oscar-winning film Spotlight, the Church had routinely fended off such scandals.

I'm an investigator in Boston. Just to put things in perspective, Globe's Spotlight investigation really only involved 8 priests (3 of them no longer in the priesthood- one in prison- at the time of the Spotlight piece) and went back 30 years. I don't have numbers on minors involved in this Epstein scandal but I would guess they are much higher.

I always found it curious that Marty Baron decides to launch a major expose of the Boston Catholic Church right after arriving from Miami. Seriously? A dozen priests out of thousands in the Boston Archdiocese? I really would like to know who was behind this concerted operation to take down the heart of American Catholicism. They make the folks behind the Trump-Russia collusion plot look like amateurs.

trelane , says: July 29, 2019 at 5:13 am GMT
Strange. What a funny thing.

I guess I was just your puppet you held on a string.

Strange how you stopped loving me. How you stopped needing me. . When she came along

https://www.youtube.com/embed/KAVLz8hKYGk?feature=oembed

Tusk , says: July 29, 2019 at 5:14 am GMT
Don't forget the arrest of Ars Technica writer Peter Bright, @DrPizza on twitter (account still up), who was arrested last month for soliciting sex with children and admitted to abusing an 11 year old girl. A guy named 'Dr Pizza' who had a pizza emoji next to his name, who tweeted often that Pizzagate was completely made up and once to the effect that "why would pedophiles put badges that could identify them up online" was arrested for being a pedophile and then subsequently came out he had constantly argued for relaxations on things like child porn and sexual-related issues. If this doesn't at least give doubters cause for concern that maybe something is up I don't know what will.

https://noqreport.com/2019/06/13/internal-boards-show-dr-pizza-debated-ars-technica-staff-legalizing-child-porn/

https://heavy.com/news/2019/06/peter-bright-dr-pizza/

Alfred , says: July 29, 2019 at 5:34 am GMT
This is a well-known weakness of Representative Democracy -- in all its versions.

The Balfour Declaration which led eventually to the creation of the state of Israel was undoubtedly the result of complex blackmail and bribery. Perhaps the USA would not have entered into WW1 unless Jews were promised Palestine in a deal.

Democracy is supposed to be a negative-feedback system -- like all control system. The only way to make it function properly is to have Direct Democracy -- where people vote on all issues and at the lowest level commensurate with the matter to be decided.

Anon [185] Disclaimer , says: July 29, 2019 at 5:37 am GMT
Journolist is probably weak sauce compared to the major editors of the largest television networks and newspaper syndicates deciding amongst themselves "whats news". Ive thought this for years. We know the CIA has people placed in media organizations, and probably has dirt on highly placed people in media organizations who are not CIA.
utu , says: July 29, 2019 at 5:46 am GMT

McCain's own Communist propaganda broadcasts

McCain must have been susceptible to pressure from Russians or Chinese who certainly knew everything McCain did in Vietnam? Or is KGB/FSB also run form Tel Aviv?

R.G. Camara , says: Website July 29, 2019 at 5:46 am GMT
Alex Jones -- yes, Alex Jones -- gave a coherent argument about the pedophilia accusations that avoided Satanism and the like but was still coherent. And its the same as the one you talk about.

Simple Kompromat .

Basically, national intelligence agencies identify up-and-comers in media and politics, then either get kompromat on them early or, if they can find nothing, set up a scenario where kompromat is created. In this latter scenario, the up-and-comer is invited to dinner, drugged, and then wakes up with either a dead body next to him or is shown pictures of him either killing someone or else molesting children. Then the up-and-comer is trapped for life.

Remember The Godfather, Part II ? They got the Nevada Senator to become their slave when they drugged him in a whorehouse and Neri killed the girl he was sleeping with, and the senator wakes up confused next to the girl and doesn't know if he did it or not -- and Michael promises to keep it all quiet -- for a price, of course. That's how it happens to these folks.

Then they own you for years.

Which makes you really scared -- not only is the FBI and NSA and CIA spying on us all illegally and spying on Trump at Obama's behest and allowing Hillary to skate -- they're running murder and child sex rings themselves. To gain leverage.

R.G. Camara , says: Website July 29, 2019 at 5:52 am GMT
@Jimmy R Surprisingly, the Globe's in-bad-faith attack on the Church might have begun a a greater renewal in it. Once it came out, people who had faith started noticing that almost all the priests doing the abuse were -- gay men abusing teenage boys. 81% of the cases weren't "pedophilia", they were homosexuals getting sexually mature but underage, vulnerable boys behind closed doors and taking advantage of them.

Catholics like Michael Voris at Church Militant have put 2 and 2 together. The problems in the Church isn't pedophilia, its homosexuals -- and Voris has exposed a ton more, including many bishops, and called them out harshly. The Church is supposed to purge homosexuals from the priesthood (by Catholic dogma), but haven't -- because higher-up homos have protected the lot.

But now many Catholic lay groups are organized and pushing to attack the illegal gay priests and get them out of the cloth. The homomafia is now proven to exist -- and, much like when the original Mafia was admitted to exist by the Kefauver hearings, an organized rounding up can occur.

renfro , says: July 29, 2019 at 6:04 am GMT

I learn from the Times that the Phoenix beer-monopoly in question, then valued at around $200 million, had accrued to a man whose lifelong business partner Kemper Marley had long been deeply linked to organized crime.

Jim Hensley the beer baron and McCain father in law was convicted of liquor related federal crimes (stealing from warehouses) but must have had a friendly judge lol cause he didn't do jail time , got probation and paid a big fine. He was working for Kemper Marley at the time.
So liar McCain married into a crime family .makes sense for a career fuck up who once his father died would start failing downward instead of upward.

Organized crime loves beer and liquor distributorships cause its a all cash business .the retailer pays you for the beer before it goes on their shelves or in their bar. no credit, no billing, pay up front. I bought a beer distributorship in 1975 so I know a bit about it .and Hensley had to have had some state officials in his pocket or his friend Marley had them cause is no way the state is going to give you a license if you've been convicted on anything worse than a speeding ticket.
You've got to be investigated by your state FBI for starters, account for every year of your life, your schools, your wife's life, your parents and relatives, list people you associate with in business or socially, then they go interview people who know you,,,in fact they do that before they even personally interview you and you have to give them your financial records, what your source of money is and all your tax returns. All of this is to make sure you have no ties to any kind of organized crime and the money purchasing the distributorship isn't coming from any shady figures.
Hensley or his backer had some very serious political pull and pay offs.

The number one career choice for aspiring crooks and fuckups is politics .McCain with his punk complex temper couldn't have held on to job anywhere else.

eah , says: July 29, 2019 at 6:07 am GMT
Over the years, it became increasingly obvious to me that nearly all elements of our national media were often quite willing to enlist in a "conspiracy of silence" to minimize or entirely ignore stories of tremendous potential interest to their readership and major public importance.

Yes, how about an update on the investigation into the killing of Seth Rich -- does that count as a 'cold case' at this point?

Also media interest in the Las Vegas mass shooting seemed to fizzle -- as did the investigation.

getaclue , says: July 29, 2019 at 6:29 am GMT
This is the concept of Kakistocracy. I always found McCain getting a pass on what he did to the left behind POWs hard to fathom -- this explains it. Before I read this article I thought that Pizzagate was just some kind of lunacy/nothing and had heard some guy went and shot up a restaurant over it (probably the creeps involved in it arranged that themselves to discredit those exposing them?) and it was since faded away discredited, I see it attacked by the same people who are always using the CIA created term "Conspiracy Theory" seems it is in fact the opposite of what I thought (due to the Globalist Propagandist Media) and its creepy players are "running" things and highly protected by the Propagandist Globalist NWO Media, seems Obama himself is in deep if the video is correct? hard to even look at the video as to these creatures .So Question? Is the Q thing also for real? I have never really followed it and seen it "debunked" on a site that made it sound like lunacy but this makes me wonder .
IfAmericansKnew , says: Website July 29, 2019 at 6:32 am GMT
Well done and case in point -- a current puppet show:

2020 presidential candidates' views on Israel

https://www.youtube.com/embed/8KY2_qaROFY?feature=oembed

Truth will set America free -- only If Americans Knew !

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXLRhe7EQV3rg-bdK0cr1zw

Parisian Guy , says: July 29, 2019 at 6:43 am GMT
@Jimmy R Sometimes ago, the Mexican Bishops Conference, when speaking about Mexican monopolistic oligarches, said they were like contemporary slave-owners .
About one year later, one of theses oligarches, Carlos Slim, bought a part of the NYTimes. Then the NYT started its own crusade against Catholic priests paedophilia.

At the time, I noticed the coincidence, but it was like I was the only one noticing it.
Is J. Gutierez around? He may confirm the story.

Dan Hayes , says: July 29, 2019 at 6:45 am GMT
@Jimmy R Jimmy R:

I appreciate your telling "the rest of the story" regarding the actual (as opposed to purported) extent of the Boston sex abuse scandal.

The same abuse exaggerations also occurred in Pennsylvania."Grossly misleading, irresponsible, inaccurate, and unjust" is how former New York Times religion reporter Peter Steinfels described last August's grand jury report in its sweeping accusations that Pennsylvania Catholic bishops refused to protect children from sexual abuse.

BTW, some time ago our patron Ron off-handedly accepted as factual the Globe narrative. When contrary opinion and facts were brought to his attention, he appeared to have accepted that they were at least worthy of consideration. (Or that's the way I vaguely remember what transpired.)

Mark James , says: July 29, 2019 at 6:48 am GMT
I did not know anything about any physical violence that may or many not have been present in McCain's marriage. I certainly did feel, that much of the senator's last days were being carefully orchestrated in order to maintain the highest degree of hero status possible. His wealthy wife certainly had the resources to leave if she wanted to. She always seemed to me extremely loyal and attentive.

I would say it was similar concerning Bush 41. Perfectly understandable that negative stories wouldn't be brought up during his long wake/funeral -- in Tx and DC -- but how about never? Several books have said that Bush's -- and campaign manager W. Casey -- CIA connections helped Reagan get elected by keeping the hostages in Iran .

The Vice-Pres was also up to his neck in the Iran/Contra affair in spite of him saying he was "out of the loop (he wasn't)." A sexual affair is unimportant. But the family says it never happened. Others have said otherwise. Jesse Ventura and his writer Dick Russell have done a nice job laying out some things that you will never hear from the Bush flack John Meacham. Or pretty much anyone else in on- air media.

niteranger , says: July 29, 2019 at 6:56 am GMT
The Corporate Fascist Military Industrial-Intelligence Police State will tell us who our heroes, presidents, and icons are. It has already been decided. McCain was commonly known as "crash" for all the incidents he had. He was a terrible pilot and would have never been one except for his father. His beatings of his wife were widely known but covered up because of his "War Hero Status." Our entire society is nothing more than a projection by the "controllers."

Examples of this are of course Obama and his wife. The media asked him almost no questions and he was guided by the Jew Axelrod to the Media's satisfaction. What Obama and his wife got away with in Chicago would embarrass the Mafia. Michele Obama had to surrender her law license to the Illinois State Disciplinary Committee. The files have been sealed.

Just look at the group running for President. All basically selected by the same controllers. They will not make a mistake in letting another Trump spoil their plans. Our entire democracy is just a mirage. The founder fathers were afraid that this would happen but their plans in the Constitution to protect the nation have become "gang banged" by the Marxist Mobs whose heroes are icons like Obama who bombed seven Muslim countries, murdered thousands of innocent people, destroyed the middle class and started wars and lied to the nation yet these people are on their knees to his royal presence.

We have no chance of getting to the truth on anything because to even ask a question is now an act of racism, antisemitism, and hatred.

LondonBob , says: July 29, 2019 at 7:28 am GMT
One of the more extreme accusers in Britain has revealed to be a fantasist, his claims went well beyond other claims and included such unlikely characters as Field Marshall Lord Brammal, and this is being used to Bury the paedophile scandal in Britain. Greville Janner's children have been given prominent coverage to suggest this shows their father is innocent despite the fact that the evidence against their father is very substantial and has little to do with the fantasist.

https://villagemagazine.ie/index.php/2019/07/does-nicks-conviction-mean-jimmy-savile-is-innocent-yes-if-you-work-for-the-british-media/

Perhaps most interesting is the allegations surrounding Kincora Boys' Home, in particular the involvement of the intelligence services.

https://www.express.co.uk/comment/columnists/leo-mckinstry/569181/sex-abuse-claims-Leo-McKinstry

The Alarmist , says: July 29, 2019 at 8:50 am GMT

There is an old wartime proverb that enemy flak is always heaviest over the most important target, and the remarkably ferocious wave of attacks and censorship against anyone broaching the subject of Pizzagate seems to raise all sorts of dark suspicions.

I guess we can look forward to another day of heavy DDoS of unz.com.

How is it we don't yet have a Grand Unifying Theory that links the seemingly unconnected paedophelia stories that have simmered simultaneously in D.C., Westminster, and Brussels over the past couple of decades? The Church would seem to fit right in in this NWO orgy, but has instead been hung out to dry.

HoekomSA , says: July 29, 2019 at 9:15 am GMT
One of the elite one worlder groups is the (in)famous Skull and Bones society at Yale. Its membership included both president Bushes as well as John Kerry and a multitude of other politicians. Anthony Sutton carried out an expose in his book America's secret establishment. Part of the inition occurs in a crypt surrounded by skulls , including Geronimos's skull while lying in a coffin. If that isnt weird enough part of the initiation includes something around sexual misadventure. According to Kay Riggs, whose husband was a colnel in the intelligence services the sexual side of the initiation involves the person being sodomised by an member of the society. According to her , in order to enter the higher levels of many parts of government this is not an uncommon practice.

In the murky world of american political elites the truth is impossible to be certain of.

The skull and bones society has been well publicised so presumably now the power has been withdrawn from it.

Bill Jones , says: July 29, 2019 at 9:16 am GMT
I've had much enjoyment over the years by asking McCain worshipers to give me the name of one Vietnamese with as many confirmed kills of American military as John McCain.
swamped , says: July 29, 2019 at 9:29 am GMT
Another long-winded & annoyingly inchoate ramble raising several important but seemingly disparate subjects, each of which could & probably should have been pursued independently. Is there really any viable connection between Sydney Schanberg & Epstein, between the Catholic Church & John McCain, between Berezovsky & Pizzagate, etc.? What a jumbled mishmash that leaves you more confused than when you started. "Perhaps" this & "perhaps" that, doesn't help very much. The most urgent question though is why are so many high & mighty tempted by pedophilia in the first place, where does that psychosis come from & why are the power games more important than the pawns, the poor kids, that are used to play it? Hanging is much too good for an unspeakable filth like Epstein & whoever aided him. There is no punishment or torture ever devised that would be sufficient, if found guilty, for the crimes for which he stands accused. That should come first, the rest is chickenfeed.
Bill Jones , says: July 29, 2019 at 9:33 am GMT
Picky typo-asshole here, reporting for duty
"but I might was well provide a brief summary."

but I might as well provide a brief summary.

Ahoy , says: July 29, 2019 at 9:39 am GMT
We have progressed (here we laugh) from the times of Gentlemen and Ladies to so-called emancipated men and women with human rights fit for animals. Just to refresh your memory

https://www.youtube.com/embed/videoseries?list=RDKAVLz8hKYGk

After I heard this I am convinced we moved from great CASH to trash.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/videoseries?list=RDKAVLz8hKYGk

Ahoy , says: July 29, 2019 at 9:54 am GMT

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Lq0fUa0vW_E?feature=oembed

https://www.youtube.com/embed/UcVM20BboZI?feature=oembed

Realist , says: July 29, 2019 at 10:09 am GMT
@Mike Johnson

The last big VA scandal where many Veterans died waiting to get medical treatment happened in Arizona. You cannot tell me that McCain did not know that Veterans were dying while waiting to get help at the Phoenix VA. In my opinion McCain was a worthless human being.

The most devastating victory the North Vietnamese had over the US was the return of McCain alive.

Gordo , says: July 29, 2019 at 10:11 am GMT
Thank you for this article Mr Unz.
Nodwink , says: July 29, 2019 at 10:23 am GMT
I'm not convinced by the evidence against Comet Ping Pong, but I am intrigued by the possible connections that the Podesta brothers have to the disappearance of the British girl, Madelaine McCann, in Portugal over a decade ago. John Podesta is known to have been in Portugal around the time of Madelaine's disappearance. There is also a description eerily similar to Anthony Wiener.
Jacques Sheete , says: July 29, 2019 at 10:37 am GMT
I've long been convinced, and who can deny, that most of the wars the US has been involved in, and all of the ones Zionists and Communists have been involved in, have roots in outrageous sadistic psychopathology like this.:

Major items of his very extensive personal collection seemed to represent tortured or murdered bodies, and one of his favorite artists was best known for paintings depicting young children being held captive, lying dead, or suffering under severe distress

.

As for the slime, McCain, and the rest of the political establishment, none of it surprises me. The type was recognized long ago.

(1) Roy Cohn (1927-86) allegedly ran child sex and blackmail operations for decades, operating out of locales such as New York's Plaza Hotel

(2) Robert Keith Gray (1921-2014), USA lobbyist, "specialist in homosexual blackmail operations for the CIA and reported to have collaborated with Roy Cohn"

(3) Bruce Ritter (1927-99), Roman Catholic priest and founder of Covenant House for homeless teenagers, "eventually accused of having sexual relationships with many of the underaged boys he had taken in", Ritter supported by Cardinal Spellman closely tied to Roy Cohn, and tied to George H W Bush's Yale room-mate

(4) Craig Spence (1941-89), another USA lobbyist; "in June 1989, it was revealed that he had been pimping out children to the power elite in the nation's capital throughout the 1980s in apartments that were bugged with video and audio recording equipment reports on Spence's child sex ring also reveal his close ties to none other than the ubiquitous Roy Cohn

"Spence had been able to enter the White House late at night during the George H.W. Bush administration with young men whom the Washington Times described as 'call boys' Spence often boasted that he was working for the CIA Not long after the Washington Times report on his activities was published, Spence was found dead in the Boston Ritz Carlton and his death was quickly ruled a suicide."

(5) Lawrence E. King Jr, lobbyist and credit union banker, key figure in the "infamous Franklin child sex abuse and ritual murder scandal run out of Omaha, Nebraska Larry King and his Nebraska-based call boy ring, was discovered by looking through the credit card chits of Spence's ring King and Spence were essentially business partners as their child trafficking rings were operated under a larger group that was nicknamed 'Bodies by God' the rings run by both King and Spence were connected to each other and both were also connected to prominent officials in the Reagan and subsequent George H.W. Bush administrations, including officials with ties to the CIA and Roy Cohn and his network"

(6) Jeffrey Epstein (born 1953) then comes in on the scene, convicted of the same kinds of activities, and linked to the networks reflected in the above

(7) NXIVM recent sex-slave and child pornography scandal involving Clare Bronfman

By the way, the 'police break-in' to Epstein's New York City 27,000 square foot mansion, is regarded as a staged fake event by many, because as was clear, Epstein had multiple live-in staffers, there was always a butler or someone present 24/7, who would simply have opened the door for the police. The crowbar damage to the door would not have opened the high-security portal, and would have set off massive alarms. The people walking out with cheap rubbish bags of alleged 'evidence' did not even look like police or feds on a high-profile operation.

Epstein always had lots of aides & helpers such as Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of 'Israeli super-spy Robert Maxwell', allegedly helping procure all the young girls etc., yet somehow not yet so touched by these events when a 'serious' prosecution would certain quickly dragnet all such people. What is really going on, remains yet to be seen.

Greg Bacon , says: Website July 29, 2019 at 10:46 am GMT
That some, if not many US politicians have degenerate backgrounds and bizarre tastes can't be brushed off as some coincidence.

If you're a tiny ME nation that is doing a good job of occupying the most powerful military on Earth or if you're some bankster gangster that wants to keep your fraudulent fiat money scheme afloat, our corrupt politicians are just what the doctor ordered.

Jacques Sheete , says: July 29, 2019 at 10:48 am GMT
@Tusk

A guy named 'Dr Pizza' who had a pizza emoji next to his name, who tweeted often that Pizzagate was completely made up and once to the effect that "why would pedophiles put badges that could identify them up online" was arrested for being a pedophile and then subsequently came out he had constantly argued for relaxations on things like child porn and sexual-related issues.

The bastards just love molesting our minds as well. Who can deny that they enjoy it even more when they ply their perversions in our faces? It should also be crystal clear that the gratuitous Isreali sniping and crippling and a thousand other outrageous crimes against humanity stimulate the hell out of the perverts.

When will people finally get it through their heads that politics is all about domination , most often in perverted and sadistic forms?

None of this should be a bit surprising.

Jacques Sheete , says: July 29, 2019 at 10:58 am GMT
@Jimmy R I'm no Catholic, but it's long been obvious that the incessant harping on the Church's pedophilia is a twofer; it's not only a huge smear campaign, but it's no doubt worth $$ to the usual suspects. Look what the Commies did to religious folk in the former USSR and to the largely Christian Germany, and tell me that there's no connection.

Sadistic perverts rule with the consistent support of the "great" US moneyed ruling classes while the drooling rubes and dupes do their part as well.

Robjil , says: July 29, 2019 at 11:08 am GMT
@Jimmy R It is all about stopping the Catholic Church from having a voice to oppose Zion BC wars and coups. The Jewish Zionists want to continue the mass destruction of our planet without any back talk.

Planted Memories is a good trick to silence any organization and a big one like the Catholic Church.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/media-spotlight/201211/implanting-false-memories

Planted memories have used since the 1990s against the Catholic Church in a big way. After the end of the cold war, the ZUS wanted wars for Zion mania. No back talk allowed from any one or group is "allowed". This planted memories games works like a charm and has been used over and over again on the Catholic Church to silence it. It allows the wars and the coups for Zion BC go on and on endlessly with no back talk. It is a common trick for many cases these days.

"There is no credible scientific support for the idea that we can take eleven years of brutalization and banish it into the unconscious and then undergo some therapy which is going to make us aware of it," Dr. Loftus reported as she discussed the Holly Ramona case, "and yet these kinds of things were being introduced into court cases throughout the 1990s and into the 2000s and still today." While her outspoken opposition to recovered memory has led to her being targeted by feminist and victims' rights groups over the years (including the controversial "Jane Doe case"), Dr. Loftus continues to stand by her own research into false memory.

Brabantian , says: July 29, 2019 at 11:11 am GMT
Regarding the fabled photos of J Edgar Hoover in a woman's dress and with his gay lover, held as successful blackmail by the Jewish mob & Meyer Lansky, Ms Whitney Webb says in her Mint Press News series on Epstein connections:

Anthony Summers, former BBC journalist and author of 'Official and Confidential: The Secret Life of J. Edgar Hoover', has argued that it was not Lansky, but William Donovan, the director of the OSS, who obtained the original photos of Hoover and later shared them with Lansky.

Ms Webb argues for a quite long series of connections between the USA-Canadian Jewish & Italian mobs going back a century, the paedophile and under-age-sex-slave blackmail groups, and the USA & Israel intel agencies. Her series is quite something, the first two installments:
https://www.mintpressnews.com/shocking-origins-jeffrey-epstein-blackmail-roy-cohn/260621/
https://www.mintpressnews.com/blackmail-jeffrey-epstein-trump-mentor-reagan-era/260760/
Many connections are indeed striking. Trump's current USA Attorney General Barr (born 1950) & his father Donald Barr (1921-2004), were both CIA-intel officers & both linked to Epstein. William was CIA officer 1973-77, the CIA supporting him going to law school, father Donald with OSS & Bill Donovan the CIA predecessor during WW2.

Barr's later law firm Kirkland & Ellis represented Epstein; Donald Barr, when NYC Dalton School headmaster, gave Jeffrey Epstein his first job, teaching teen-age girls & boys 1973-75, whilst William Barr was at the CIA. Father Donald Barr was fascinated by sex slavery as much as Epstein apparently, Barr authoring a 1973 fantasy novel on the subject, 'Space Relations: A Slightly Gothic Interplanetary Tale" book published when Jeffrey Epstein was his underling & school-teacher of teens.

Ms Webb recounts multiple child molestation and political blackmail groups -- which had a collective name, 'Bodies from God' -- all linking ultimately with Jeffrey Epstein, intel agencies, and Jewish mobsters; Lansky etc., and such as the Bronfmans of Canada, the Bronfmans in 1991 joining with Epstein's patron & the original buyer of his New York City mansion, Les Wexner, to found the 'Mega Group' of 20 or so Zionist Jewish billionaires who are now often perceived to be the Mossad-backed money source for Epstein. A short list of these groups and persons mentioned by Webb

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(1) Roy Cohn (1927-86) allegedly ran child sex and blackmail operations for decades, operating out of locales such as New York's Plaza Hotel

(2) Robert Keith Gray (1921-2014), USA lobbyist, "specialist in homosexual blackmail operations for the CIA and reported to have collaborated with Roy Cohn"

(3) Bruce Ritter (1927-99), Roman Catholic priest and founder of Covenant House for homeless teenagers, "eventually accused of having sexual relationships with many of the underaged boys he had taken in", Ritter supported by Cardinal Spellman closely tied to Roy Cohn, and tied to George H W Bush's Yale room-mate

(4) Craig Spence (1941-89), another USA lobbyist; "in June 1989, it was revealed that he had been pimping out children to the power elite in the nation's capital throughout the 1980s in apartments that were bugged with video and audio recording equipment reports on Spence's child sex ring also reveal his close ties to none other than the ubiquitous Roy Cohn

"Spence had been able to enter the White House late at night during the George H.W. Bush administration with young men whom the Washington Times described as 'call boys' Spence often boasted that he was working for the CIA Not long after the Washington Times report on his activities was published, Spence was found dead in the Boston Ritz Carlton and his death was quickly ruled a suicide."

(5) Lawrence E. King Jr, lobbyist and credit union banker, key figure in the "infamous Franklin child sex abuse and ritual murder scandal run out of Omaha, Nebraska Larry King and his Nebraska-based call boy ring, was discovered by looking through the credit card chits of Spence's ring King and Spence were essentially business partners as their child trafficking rings were operated under a larger group that was nicknamed 'Bodies by God' the rings run by both King and Spence were connected to each other and both were also connected to prominent officials in the Reagan and subsequent George H.W. Bush administrations, including officials with ties to the CIA and Roy Cohn and his network"

(6) Jeffrey Epstein (born 1953) then comes in on the scene, convicted of the same kinds of activities, and linked to the networks reflected in the above

(7) NXIVM recent sex-slave and child pornography scandal involving Clare Bronfman

By the way, the 'police break-in' to Epstein's New York City 27,000 square foot mansion, is regarded as a staged fake event by many, because as was clear, Epstein had multiple live-in staffers, there was always a butler or someone present 24/7, who would simply have opened the door for the police. The crowbar damage to the door would not have opened the high-security portal, and would have set off massive alarms. The people walking out with cheap rubbish bags of alleged 'evidence' did not even look like police or feds on a high-profile operation.

Epstein always had lots of aides & helpers such as Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of 'Israeli super-spy Robert Maxwell', allegedly helping procure all the young girls etc., yet somehow not yet so touched by these events when a 'serious' prosecution would certain quickly dragnet all such people. What is really going on, remains yet to be seen.

Biff , says: July 29, 2019 at 11:16 am GMT
Trust Wikipedia to get the story strait(sarcasm).

"

Pizzagate" is a debunked conspiracy theory that went viral during the 2016 United States presidential election cycle.[2][3][4] It has been extensively discredited by a wide range of organizations, including the Metropolitan Police Department of the District of Columbia.[3][4][5]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory

Some of Pizzagate's proponents, including David Seaman and Michael G. Flynn (Michael Flynn's son), have evolved the conspiracy into a broader government conspiracy called "Pedogate". According to this theory, a "satanic cabal of elites" of the New World Order operates international child sex trafficking rings.[27]

Was Epstein part of a "Satanic cabal" ?

TKK , says: July 29, 2019 at 11:31 am GMT
The Epstein conspiracy grows worse.

One of the victims filed a federal lawsuit. Once filed, this is public record. The only redactions allowed are social security numbers and the like.

When the Miami Herald went to obtain the Motion for Summary Judgment, it was completely redacted. 137 pages of blacked out paragraphs.

A motion for summary judgment is basically saying there are no material issues in dispute- nothing to litigate. This document would contain all relevant facts about the case.

This type of redaction is unheard, unprecedented- appalling.

The only reason the Herald is in pursuit ( and any other MSM) is because they believed it would destroy Trump.

It's now on appeal. If the redactions stand, we should riot in the street. We knew justice was bought, but pedophilia usually will stir up some dregs of bureaucratic slugs to action.

And with a parallel to McCain, if Clinton slithers out of this- with over 27 flights on the Lolita Express- he is officially the most untouchable man in history.

Once you start researching the Epstein matter- not for the lurid details- but the unprecedented, jaw dropping preferential treatment of an actual human sex trafficker ( not this fake #metoo hysteria)

-- all hope is lost.

Note the strange silence from Hollywood and the elites regarding Epstein's victims, when they were wearing hair shirts over Christine Fords 30 year old accusation.

A wealthy smug scold, who looks like an exploded can of rotten biscuit dough had them weeping on camera.

Dozens of little girls -- all poor and from fatherless backgrounds marred by parental drug abuse, suicides and physical abuse- selected and sexually devastated by Epstein- not a word.

Sick of Orcs , says: July 29, 2019 at 11:32 am GMT
Who can forget Gerry Studds, democrap ephebophile?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Studds

onebornfree , says: Website July 29, 2019 at 11:47 am GMT
Ron Unz says: " ..at the core of our hugely corrupted political system .."

So whats to be done? Isn't that the big question here?

I believe that its only with the an understanding of the true, 100% corrupt nature of the state, that real-world solutions to the massive [ and progressively worse] problems it causes in society can be worked out and then implemented.

Ron, the big picture here that you, like most, either genuinely don't see [ or conveniently refuse to see] is this:

The True Nature of All Governments:

"Because they are all ultimately funded via both direct and indirect theft [taxes], and counterfeiting [via central bank monopolies], all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt criminal scams which cannot be "reformed","improved", nor "limited" in scope, simply because of their innate criminal nature." onebornfree

"Taking the State wherever found, striking into its history at any point, one sees no way to differentiate the activities of its founders, administrators and beneficiaries from those of a professional-criminal class." Albert J. Nock

"Government is a disease masquerading as its own cure." Robert LeFevre

Without an generally accepted understanding of the true nature of all states and governments, we are lost, as far as I can see.

Regards, onebornfree

Iris , says: July 29, 2019 at 12:01 pm GMT
@Jimmy R Also, there is a major distinction: child abuse in the Catholic Church is committed by isolated individuals whose sole responsibility is involved when the crime is committed. It is not institutionalised, pre-planned and organised by a group, as it is within the political establishment.

It is the same difference as between a criminal and organised crime, and it is a major difference, in magnitude and in nature.

Moi , says: July 29, 2019 at 12:18 pm GMT
@Mike Johnson McCain was busy helping the missus with her beer franchise so missed the VA scandal.
JohnnyWalker123 , says: July 29, 2019 at 12:18 pm GMT
Very interesting article.

I actually highly reccomend a film called "Eyes Wide Shut."

The film, which stars Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman, was directed by the late Stanley Kubrick and released back in 1999. It was extremely hyped at the time, especially given that Kubrick died several days after completing the film.

While I won't summarize the entire film, there is one very important scene in which Tom Cruise's character sneaks into a large New York mansion and stumbles upon a Satanic sexual ritual/orgy. At the ritual/orgy, there are various individuals in costumes&masks who engage in debauched sexual practices with sex slaves. Later in the movie, one of the men there (who happens to be a prominent local Jewish socialite) tells Tom Cruise's character that the Satanic sexual gathering was full of very important and powerful local figures. Tom Cruise's character is ominously threatened into silence. At the end of the film, Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman allow their young daughter to be taken by the Satanic sexual abusers.

After he was finished with the movie, Stanley Kubrick showed it to execs from Warner Brothers for the first time. They ended up getting into a contentious argument over the film. The next day, Kubrick (who was a very healthy man) was announced dead of a heart attack. Around 30 minutes of the film was later edited out by Warner Brothers before it was released. Supposedly (and this has NOT been confirmed) there were scenes of child sexual abuse in the original that Kubrick made, but this was edited out.

The movie would go on to become very popular in "conspiracy" circles. Many of these people said that Kubrick (who was notoriously reclusive, enigmatic, and fond of "conspiracy theories") was exposing the secret world of the Illuminati and their debauched sexual practices, including their sexual enslavement of children.

There are very interesting similarities between the movie's Satanic sexual gathering and an eerie real life Rothschild ball held back in 1972 (at one of the family mansions). The movie even used a Rothschild mansion (Mentmore Towers) as the setting for the Satanic sexual orgy.

When you hear all the allegations being made against Epstein, it makes you wonder. The New York mansion. The weird Occult/Satanic temple on his island. The really young women coerced into orgies. The hordes of wealth, famous, and powerful people who "partied" with Epstein. The threats made against journalists and accusers who've come forward. The Jewish connection. The Rothschild connection (Dershowitz was introduced to Epstein by the Rothschilds). The Royal family and Prince Andrew connection ("Eyes Wide Shut" had a character with the surname "Windsor"). There are many similarities to "Eyes Wide Shut."

If we assume that the Illuminati (or a similar elite society) actually exists, maybe it makes sense that they would invite powerful people to attend their parties and engage in debauched sexual acts, especially with the underaged. By encouraging this, the society would get blackmail material on the elite of society. Once those elites were under blackmail, they'd be puppets. These compromised elites would also be willing to recruit more new members and bring them to the sexual parties.

So perhaps Epstein started off by befriending a few of the elite (with the Mossad helping facilitate the social interaction). He then invited them to some type of perverse sexual party. Once Epstein got tapes and pictures of them, these elites then became Israeli pawns and also became willing to invite their elite friends to the parties.

That may explain why Epstein became so popular and why no one was willing to take him down. That may also explain why everyone quoted in news articles always used to mention his supposed "brilliance."

Even Newsweek noted the similarity between "Eyes Wide Shut" and the Epstein situation.

https://www.newsweek.com/eyes-wide-shut-missing-footage-epstein-kubrick-death-1449108

If you're interested in seeing the ritual that I mentioned above, here's a short video from the movie. I wouldn't be surprised if Epstein was doing something similar to this in his Occult/Satanic temple on his island.

RoatanBill , says: July 29, 2019 at 12:18 pm GMT
What this article should convince everyone of is that 'rules but no rulers' makes perfect sense. That's what real anarchism means -- rules but no rulers. If your immediate mental picture was of a bomb thrower, then your mind has been successfully infiltrated by the powers that shouldn't be.

Why is it that one person with the title of 'President' can declare things that affect the lives of millions of USians and billions world wide. No one should have that much power.

"The way to get rid of corruption in high places is to get rid of high places." -- Frank Chodorov

If the deep state has managed to install their puppets in positions of authority shouldn't we all be trying to get rid of the positions of authority instead of rotating through that position replaceable candidates offered up by the deep state political parties?

If you vote, you are tacitly approving of a system that has enslaved your mind.
If you're not an anarchist, you are part of the problem.

Moi , says: July 29, 2019 at 12:21 pm GMT
@Alden I guess why they named a convention center after him Homofrisco.
St-Germain , says: July 29, 2019 at 12:25 pm GMT
Kudos, Ron Unz. Excellent article and a useful tutorial on the hidden control mechanism of what the late Paul A. Samuelson called our "democratic oligarchy".

I applaud your parlor joke:

" that perhaps the best career move for an ambitious young politician would be to secretly commit some monstrous crime and then make sure that the hard evidence of his guilt ended up in the hands of certain powerful people, thereby assuring his rapid political rise."

A great French investigative reporter crafted an unfunny version:

"Indeed, under our putative system of democracy, especially since JFK, the oligarchy will not allow the election of any candidate who cannot be blackmailed."

-- Thierry Meyssan, Before our very eyes -- fake wars and big lies from 9/11 to Donald Trump , p. 146.

He had just described the 911 caper as a Cheney-led deep-state coup to activate the secret but long-standing CoG procedure to sideline the Constitution. It succeeded when clueless Dubya was reinstated as figure-head president within 24 hours after agreeing to the clique's CoG (continuity of government) agenda, including the planned wars.

No wonder the shenannigans of compromised office-holding puppets (actors, really) and their shadowy string-pullers never seem to be known to their spear-carriers in MSM.

for-the-record , says: July 29, 2019 at 12:43 pm GMT
@niteranger Michele Obama had to surrender her law license to the Illinois State Disciplinary Committee

Reference for this, please.

DESERT FOX , says: July 29, 2019 at 12:51 pm GMT
McCain was a psycopath and a traitor and proof of the zionists love of war and killers was their praise for this psycopath in his death and funeral and on the other hand no mention was ever made about the crime committed against the crew of the USS Liberty by the joint Israeli and zio/US attack on the Liberty, this shows how f##ked up this zionist ruled country has become!

Get and read the book Blood in the Water by Joan Mellen about the joint Israeli and zio/US attack on the Liberty, who McCains father participated in the cover up of this war crime!

Truth3 , says: July 29, 2019 at 12:53 pm GMT
Ron Unz American Treasure.

Way to go, Sir.

Arrow , says: July 29, 2019 at 12:59 pm GMT
@Jimmy R Last I heard he was happily married to a 12 year old boy and living on a beach in Thailand.
Jacques Sheete , says: July 29, 2019 at 1:15 pm GMT

The number one career choice for aspiring crooks and fuckups is politics .McCain with his punk complex temper couldn't have held on to job anywhere else.

Perverts and psychopaths as well.

" nobody is going to be a thief with me as his accomplice,
and that right there is why I'm going in no governor's entourage."

Juvenal, Satires, Volume 3, (3.41-48) ~100 AD

Now do not be vexed with me when I speak the truth. For there is no human being who will preserve his life if he genuinely opposes either you or any other multitude and prevents many unjust and unlawful things from happening in the city. Rather, if someone who really fights for the just is going to preserve himself even for a short time, it is necessary for him to lead a private rather than a public life.

-Socrates, as quoted by Plato, Apology, (~400BC) 31e -32a
http://www.sjsu.edu/people/james.lindahl/courses/Phil70A/s3/apology.pdf

Rich , says: July 29, 2019 at 1:23 pm GMT
@Jimmy R The Diocese of Rockville Centre, where I live, has released a list of 61 priests accused of sexual misconduct. The Diocese of Newark, NJ has released a list of 82 priests. The Diocese of Brooklyn, NY has released a list of 108 priests. The Diocese of NY has released a list of 120. That's a lot more than eight, and I think if the Church is willing to give us this many names, there are probably quite a few who managed to fly under the radar.

I was raised a Catholic and really wish I didn't have to accept this reality. I've read stories that the Church was infiltrated in the 20th century, and perhaps it's true, but maybe it's been going on for a very long time. It does seem to be a bit unnatural for a man to become celibate, and that might be one of the reasons so many deviants were attracted to the priesthood, I don't know. I do know I never trusted any of them alone with my kids and I'd advise others to do the same.

It's a shame, because as a society we need some kind of moralistic code, but the Church has failed, or is at least failing, at this time in its history.

[Jul 28, 2019] Jeffrey Epstein purchased assistant Nadia Marcinkova as a child from her family teen victim told cop by Chris Spargo

Jul 28, 2019 | dailymail.co.uk

'He bragged she was his sex slave': Jeffrey Epstein 'purchased Nadia Marcinkova as a girl from her family, shot child porn of her with underage teen and forced her into threesomes'

By Chris Spargo For Dailymail.com

The foreign-born model who many have identified as an accomplice in procuring underage girls for Jeffrey Epstein is just as much a victim of the serial pedophile, according to official reports.

Incident reports from the Palm Beach Police Department's 2005 investigation that were obtained by DailyMail.com claim that Epstein told at least one underage victim that Nada Marcinkova was his 'Yugoslavian sex slave.'

Multiple girls also state that Epstein made them engage in sexual acts with Marcinkova, which eventually turned into threesomes with both himself and the model.

'Epstein had purchased her from her family in Yugoslavia,' wrote Detective Joseph Recarey after his interview with one victim.

'Epstein bragged he brought her into the United States to be his Yugoslavian sex slave.'

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Scene: An incident report obtained by DailyMail.com reveals she was as young as 15 when she first began having sex with Epstein and other victims at his Palm Beach home (above)

Marcinkova would have been underage during most of the alleged incidents described by the victims to Detective Recarey.

She was no older then 16 when she and another underage victim were allegedly forced to stimulate each other manually, orally and with toys while Epstein watched them and pleasured himself in the bed.

That same unnamed girl broke down in tears while revealing she had been to Epstein's Palm Beach mansion hundreds of times in a two-year period and made thousands of dollars.

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At first she was paid extra to perform an oral sex act on Marcinkova, then each week 'things continued to escalate', states the incident report.

She said that she was 'adamant... that no vaginal penetration would occur with [Epstein],' but then that too did occur while she was underage, she told Detective Recarey.

On one occasion, the date of which he could not recall, Epstein allegedly raped that victim after she and Marcinkova had engaged in an oral sex act to completion.

'She said her head was being held against the bed forcibly... she screamed no and Epstein stopped,' said the report.

Soon after this, the victim said that Epstein purchased a '2005 Doge [sic] Neon, blue in color for her personal use.'

Epstein Police Report by ChrisSpargo on Scribd

https://www.scribd.com/embeds/420033190/content

 'Epstein bragged he brought her into the United States to be his Yugoslavian sex slave,' Detective Recarey said after speaking to that same victim (Epstein above in 2008)"

Another woman also detailed a similar progression of events, starting with massages and leading into sexual encounters with Marcinkova.

That victim, who was of age during all visits to the house as she first met Epstein at 18, told Detective Recarey she also performed oral sex acts on Epstein but refused his directive to bring around other young girls.

She also claimed that she was once directed to perform a manual sex act on herself while watching Epstein have sex with Marcinkova.

Another victim, who told police she began having sexual relations with Marcinkova at 16, said that Epstein took pictures of the two and actually displayed them around his home.

These incidents make it clear that Marcinkova was also an alleged victim of Epstein.

She would later move into more of a procurement role, according to court documents, and eventually cut ties with Epstein. Marcinkova was granted immunity as part of Epstein's 2008 deal despite the fact that no charges would likely have been filed against her based on the police investigation.

She was actually born in the former Czechoslovakia just four years before the Velvet Revolution, which precipitated the non-violent transition of power in the country.

At some point she and her family did move to Yugoslavia. In recent years, she has changed her surname and Americanized her first name, going by Nadia.

[Jul 28, 2019] Epstein s Lolita Express Pilots Subpoenaed In Sex-Trafficking Investigation

Jul 28, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Jeffrey Epstein's longtime personal pilots have been subpoenaed by federal prosecutors in Manhattan, according to the Wall Street Journal . The grand jury subpoenaes were served earlier this month following Epstein's July 6 arrest at Teterboro Airport in New Jersey on charges of sex-trafficking minors. He has pleaded not guilty to the yearslong scheme in which prosecutors allege the wealthy financier sexually abused dozens of young girls from 2002 to 2005, some of whom recruited other victims.

It is unknown how many of Epstein's pilots were subpoenaed, or whether they are cooperating witnesses. According to court documents from prior cases, Epstein employed David Rodgers, Larry Visoski, Larry Morrison and Bill Hammond as pilots and flight engineers. Rogers, Visoski and Morrison have previously testified in civil depositions.

Testimony from the pilots could be used by federal investigators in their efforts to corroborate accounts from Mr. Epstein's accusers. They could also provide detail on Mr. Epstein's travels and his associates. Some of the pilots were responsible for keeping flight logs of passengers who flew on Mr. Epstein's private jet, according to court filings. - Wall Street Journal

While prosecutors claimed that Epstein owns two private jets, the registered sex offender's attorneys said in a court filing earlier this month that he owns one private jet, and "sold the other jet in June 2019." Considering that he was arrested after returning from Paris in his Gulfstream G550, per Bloomberg , it suggests that Epstein sold his infamous and evidence-rich Boeing 272-200 known as the "Lolita Express" weeks before his arrest .

Women in civil lawsuits have accused Mr. Epstein of conspiring with his pilots and other associates from at least 1998 to 2002 to facilitate sex abuse and avoid law-enforcement detection . One woman has said in court filings that when she was a minor in 2000, Mr. Epstein transported her regularly on his private jet to be sexually exploited by his associates and friends . - Wall Street Journal

According to flight logs, former President Bill Clinton flew on the "Lolita Express" a total of 27 times . "Many of those times Clinton had his Secret Service with him and many times he did not," according to investigative journalist Conchita Sarnoff - who first revealed the former president's extensive flights on Epstein's "lolita express" in a 2010 Daily Beast exposé.

Via Radar Online

Clinton claimed in a statement earlier this month that he only took "a total of four trips on Jeffrey Epstein's airplane" in 2002 and 2003, and that Secret Service accompanied him at all times - which Sarnoff told Fox News was a total lie .

"I know from the pilot logs and these are pilot logs that you know were written by different pilots and at different times that Clinton went, he was a guest of Epstein's 27 times ," said Sarnoff.

Other famous guests include actor Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker, who flew with Clinton to Africa to tour HIV/AIDS project sites, according to New York Magazine in 2002, which notes how much Epstein revered the former president.

Lawyers for some of Epstein's accusers alleged in a 2015 court filing that flight logs provided by Epstein pilot Rodgers were incomplete, and that they will corroborate their accusations of being trafficked by Epstein and his associates when they were underage .

"It would not be surprising to find that some of these flight logs were likely designed to hide evidence of criminal activity -- or perhaps later cleansed of such evidence," wrote the lawyers.

Investigators may be interested in asking Mr. Epstein's pilots whether they witnessed any efforts by Mr. Epstein to interfere with law enforcement, according to legal experts. In recent court filings, prosecutors have accused Mr. Epstein of tampering with witnesses , an allegation that Mr. Epstein's lawyers denied in court.

Federal prosecutors in Miami and Mr. Epstein's lawyers in 2007 negotiated over the possibility of Mr. Epstein pleading guilty to obstruction of justice, including for an incident involving one of his pilots, according to emails that became public in civil lawsuits. - Wall Street Journal

Interestingly, prosecutors confirmed that there are " uncharged individuals " in Epstein's case. Aside from his close associate and Clinton pal Ghislaine Maxwell - his 'madam,' could the pilots be on that list?"

[Jul 28, 2019] Another Epstein Domino Trump's National Security Advisor tied to Epstein Maxwell Cabal

Notable quotes:
"... Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of Robert Maxwell and girlfriend and "Nazi guard" for Epstein"s child sex stable also ran a fake charity closed day ago called Terra Mar. The FBI is now investigating if the charity was used to pay off Epstein/Maxwell child rape victims. ..."
"... The UK Guardian and Transparify.org list the think tank now run by General McMaster and tied to Platero, Maxwell and Epstein as invisibly funded and "deceptive." ..."
Jul 28, 2019 | www.veteranstoday.com

Following the bread crumbs from Epstein has led to a fake charity and from there to General McMaster, former National Security Advisor to Donald Trump, who now heads a reputedly fake London based think tank secretly funded by money laundered through the repressive Bahraini royal family.

But there is more.

Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of Robert Maxwell and girlfriend and "Nazi guard" for Epstein"s child sex stable also ran a fake charity closed day ago called Terra Mar. The FBI is now investigating if the charity was used to pay off Epstein/Maxwell child rape victims.

The charity takes us further into Maxwell's den of Mossad partnerships. Most serious of all are those through her lifelong friend Calfo Platero, who ties Epstein and Maxwell to the highly disreputable London based Institute for Strategic Studies. The UK Guardian and Transparify.org list the think tank now run by General McMaster and tied to Platero, Maxwell and Epstein as invisibly funded and "deceptive." However, in 2016, the organization that McMaster joined when he left the Trump White House in 2018 admitted to taking secret funding from the rulers of Bahrain under an agreement that they would keep the funding secret.

Bahrain has been cited with numerous human rights abuses and an attempt to murder an American diplomat and blame it on Iran. Middle East Eye confirmed Bahrain's involvement, a major "revolving door" scandal for a high level Trump appointee.

[Jul 26, 2019] Deutsche Bank Flagged Jeffrey Epstein Overseas Transactions For Suspected Sex-Trafficking

"Imagine if all banks were truly clean, refusing to deal with shady characters...."
Jul 26, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Yog Soggoth , 3 hours ago link

"Following a series of investigative reports by the Miami Herald earlier this year, Deutsche Bank followed suit, severing ties with the wealthy financier. Doing so proved difficult for the bank, as its antiquated systems. " On a number of occasions, Deutsche Bank executives had thought they had shut down all of Mr. Epstein's accounts , only to learn that there were others that they had not previously been aware of," according to the Times . By late spring, there were still transactions occurring in Epstein's Deutsche Bank accounts, however company officials now believe they have closed them all down."

They had no investigative people working for them, and somehow did not read newspapers from Miami at the time. They also have, and always have had, antiquated systems even though they are a large bank. Who does this make sense to?

ItsAllBollocks , 4 hours ago link

Post deleted due to cognitive disodence.

[Jul 26, 2019] Meet The Former Epstein Sex Slave Who Helped Recruit Underage Girls For The Lolita Express

Notable quotes:
"... A reporter at Wired tried to look into Marcinko's past to parse whether she was a willing, or unwilling, participant in Epstein's crimes, and whether she was also one of his youngest victims. Some of Epstein's other victims told police that Marcinko pressured them to sleep with both her and Epstein. Though her history of flying with Epstein is harder to pin down due to Epstein's record-keeping practices (he only recorded the first names of underage girls in flight logs, if at all), but it's become clear that during her first decade in the country, from roughly 2000 to the beginning of Epstein's prison sentence, she frequently flew between Epstein's properties in New York, Palm Beach, Monterey, Columbus, Ohio and the Azores. A pilot who once worked for Epstein testified that she had flown with him hundreds of times. ..."
"... Marcinko's relationship with Epstein presumably ended when she was given immunity from prosecution in 2008 after being named an accomplice. It's still not entirely clear how she came to live with Epstein. Was she 'sold' to him by family members in Bratislava? Or did she run away with him willingly, hoping for a more glamorous life? ..."
"... Whatever happened, as Wired claims, Marcinko is part of a small group of people who are both victims of Epstein and possible abusers. ..."
Jul 26, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

While anybody even remotely familiar with the Epstein story knows that his actions were irredeemably heinous, there are other characters in Epstein's orbit - characters who may have participated in what appears to be a global sex-trafficking ring - who are more complicated.

One of those characters is a 32-year-old model named Nadia Marcinko. Marcinko, who was once described in court documents as Epstein's "in-house sex slave" was ferried out of Slovakia on Epstein's private jet when she was just 15, and lived with the billionaire for years after, Wired reports.

Now working as a commercial pilot, Marcinko is clearly hoping the media will gloss over her involvement with Epstein. She refuses to talk to reporters, and even uses a slightly modified version of her last name (she was once known as Nadia Marcinkova).

A reporter at Wired tried to look into Marcinko's past to parse whether she was a willing, or unwilling, participant in Epstein's crimes, and whether she was also one of his youngest victims. Some of Epstein's other victims told police that Marcinko pressured them to sleep with both her and Epstein. Though her history of flying with Epstein is harder to pin down due to Epstein's record-keeping practices (he only recorded the first names of underage girls in flight logs, if at all), but it's become clear that during her first decade in the country, from roughly 2000 to the beginning of Epstein's prison sentence, she frequently flew between Epstein's properties in New York, Palm Beach, Monterey, Columbus, Ohio and the Azores. A pilot who once worked for Epstein testified that she had flown with him hundreds of times.

Marcinko's relationship with Epstein presumably ended when she was given immunity from prosecution in 2008 after being named an accomplice. It's still not entirely clear how she came to live with Epstein. Was she 'sold' to him by family members in Bratislava? Or did she run away with him willingly, hoping for a more glamorous life?

Whatever happened, as Wired claims, Marcinko is part of a small group of people who are both victims of Epstein and possible abusers.

Her testimony could again be useful. That is, if she ultimately avoids being implicated as a 'rape facilitator'.


Ms No , 10 hours ago link

This type of adult behavior is really common among prior child sex victims, even younger than what they are stating here.

If children get sex instead of parenting and nurturing they equate sex with love and their only value. They later often turn into over sexualized 'desperate attention whores'. They could easily help abuse others to stay in the game for their desperation for attention validation.

This is probably the closest thing Epstein had to a mate. You can see that he cant bond with people, there is only sex, narcissism and objectifying. Business deal is as close as he gets.

Superlat , 11 hours ago link

WHat? Women can be abusers as well as victims? NO! THAT"S AN ILLEGAL THOUGHT!

CC713Techman , 11 hours ago link

Read the Wired article. She is portrayed as both not necessarily in that order. They theorize she may have been sold to JE or maybe he simply took her before eh engaged in recruitment and abuse herself. They conclude with:

"It's all too sad, and anyone who is said to have entered bondage at 15, and was forced to act as a sex slave, deserves much, much better."

One of the commenters at Wired caught this.

punchasocialist , 13 hours ago link

......................................................................... Hey Assholes!

I see distraction.

I see misdirection.

Cops have been busted running small time prostitution and gambling joints all over Boston and New York the last 10 years.

They have dirt on lots of the local politicians and money makers all across this Illegal Union of 57 States.

To me, this Epstein manufactured drama stage play is not stunning or even that interesting.

Give Me Some Truth , 12 hours ago link

I upvoted you for nailing what we have here, but disagree that this is "not stunning or even that interesting."

It IS stunning and is probably the "most interesting" story citizens could learn about.

Twisted, disturbing, depressing, bigger than most of us can grasp. How could such a story unfold/happen without it being "interesting?"

Ms No , 10 hours ago link

No its Mossad. His partner chick Maxwell's father even had an Mossad Israeli state funeral. Although the CIA is subservient to Mossad, so same thing in the end.

That's why the Israeli Mossad guys caught in Sept 11 were eventually released.

Moneycircus , 14 hours ago link

SJWs help make slavery pay. Feel good about it...

Australia has become the first country in the world to recognise so-called orphanage trafficking as a form of modern-day slavery.

The vast majority of children living in "orphanages" in developing nations are not true orphans. About 80% have a living parent or family .

Such institutions are often run for the profit of their owners. They are sustained by well-meaning western tourists who visit to donate or volunteer their time.

https://theglobepost.com/2018/12/14/australia-orphanage-trafficking-2/
https://bettercarenetwork.org/bcn-in-action/rethink-orphanages/latest-news/orphanage-tourism-slavery-hidden-in-plain-sight

... and then take selfies on their Slave Phones.

How Foxconn Is Making Slaves Out Of Interns
https://www.cultofmac.com/158241/how-foxconn-is-making-slaves-out-of-interns/

africoman , 14 hours ago link

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We have a very short summary this time, but the GTRP Diagram is the Value. In this post we look at the information available pertaining to Roy Cohn. We look at his relationships with Ronald Reagan, Rupert Murdoch, Nicaraguan Rebel propaganda. Cohn's leadership role in the Western Goals Foundation, Larry McDonald, and the Council for National Policy. Cohn's admitted role in CIA pedophile ring, referred to by some as Human Compromise operations. Cohn's pedophile network continued by Edwin Wilson's pedophile network uncovered and investigated by Sen. John DeCamp. Cohn law practice ties to Organized Crime and the Catholic Archdiocese of New York. Cohn's mentorship of bot...

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"Historically, one of Wilson's Agency jobs was to subvert members of both houses [of Congress] by any means necessary . Certain people could be easily coerced by living out their sexual fantasies in the flesh . A remembrance of these occasions [was] permanently recorded via selected cameras . The technicians in charge of filming were TSD [Technical Services Division of the CIA]. The unwitting ***** stars advanced in their political careers, some of [whom] may still be in office." (Qtd. in DeCamp 179)

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Cohn also had a protégé of his own: a young, up-and-coming real-estate developer named Donald J. Trump. And though Trump and Cohn's relationship spanned from the early 1970s until a few months before Cohn's death, in 1986 (Trump abandoned his mentor as Cohn lay dying), there seemed to be a lot of information of contemporary significance contained within their bizarre partnership

Finally,

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Trump's Pedophiles>>> Trump has been linked to the Jewish Mafia and to Israel.

surf@jm , 14 hours ago link

This girl is all over the internet profiling her piloting of planes.........

Narcissism in a woman is twice as bad as in a man............

The story of Narcissus dates back to ancient Greece. It was said that this young man was the son of a nymph named Liriope, and the river deity and personification of the river, Cephissus. Narcissus was raised in Boeotia (a region in central Greece) and grew into an extremely handsome youth. However, he never found anyone he thought was as attractive as he was; he left a string of broken-hearted girls (and a few young men) everywhere he went.

until one day Narcissus happened to see his own reflection in the water. He had finally found someone he found truly attractive: himself. He tried to kiss the image, but only created a ripple in the water that hid the reflection. Obsessed with his love for his own image, but never able to touch it, he wasted away and eventually died of hunger and thirst.

frankthecrank , 13 hours ago link

The term and the Greek story are not connected. Narcs actually hate themselves deep down and tend to only associate with those who either make them look good or they can dominate.

Pro_sanity , 15 hours ago link

A nitro story, and from what seems already apparent, one of breathtaking dimension. This would be the swamp dam break. The scumbags who would go down ... limited only by one's imagination. True justice in this case would be the correction the U.S. needs to really get back to greatness. It would be the story of our times ... for the ages.

Any networks covering this? Are the masses being informed? Does the guy sitting next to you, standing behind you, mowing your lawn, stocking the shelves .... do they know who Epstein is? Nope, and the story is getting buried.

NOTHING WILL COME OF THIS ... ******* DISGRACE

Old White Guy , 15 hours ago link

If the Clintons have the most to lose over a thorough investigation of Epstein's sexual abuse of minors then Epstein does not have long. People posing a threat to Team Clinton usually have accidents and disappear. This is going to get much uglier for swamp dwellers.

dogismycopilot , 16 hours ago link

the blonde is the perp.

she liked being outfitted with a strap on.

the case file on this reads like a BDM journal.

June 12 1776 , 16 hours ago link

Sure does;

"Epstein also made E.W. perform oral sex on him and was to perform sex acts on Nadia Marcinkova [pictured above, on right] (Epstein's live-in sex slave) in Epstein's presence."

Case 09-34791-RBR Doc 1603-3 Filed 04/08/11 Page 7 of 39

https://archive.org/stream/ECFDOC160310567451/ECF_DOC_1603_10567451_djvu.txt

"made to perform sex acts on Nadia Marcinkova [pictured above, on right] in Epstein's presence".

Case 09-34791-RBR Doc 1603-3 Filed 04/08/11 Page 8 of 39

https://archive.org/stream/ECFDOC160310567451/ECF_DOC_1603_10567451_djvu.txt

the Palm Beach Police Department also began investigating Epstein's sexual abuse of minor girls. They also collected evidence of Epstein's involvement with minor girls and his obsession with training sex slaves, including pulling information from Epstein's trash. Their investigation showed that Epstein ordered from Amazon.com on about September 4, 2005, such books as: SMI 01: A Realistic Introduction, by Jay Wiseman; SlaveCraft: Roadmaps for Erotic Servitude - Principles, Skills, and Tools, by Guy Baldwin; and Training with Miss Abernathy: A Workbook for Erotic Slaves and Their Owners, by Christina Abernathy. See Receipt for Sex Slave Books (Exhibit "I")

Case 09-34791 -RBR Doc 1 603-3 Filed 04/08/1 1 Page 1 1 of 39

https://archive.org/stream/ECFDOC160310567451/ECF_DOC_1603_10567451_djvu.txt

further, how "convenient" the synchronicity as the Virgin Islands have just been hit this week with a MOSSAD CIA MI6 FSB bleach bit "ransom ware" "hack" huh huh.

[Jul 26, 2019] Of Two Minds - Epstein and the Explosive Crisis of the Deep State

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July 15, 2019

Since the battle is for the legitimacy of the state, it must be waged at least partially in the open.

Speculations by outsiders must give Deep State insiders many opportunities to chuckle, "if only they knew." We don't know, of course, and public leaks are engineered to misdirect our attention from what's actually going on or "frame" our understanding in a positive way.

Decades later, history reveals a very ordinary mix of great successes and horrific failure in secret operations , caused by errors of judgment, faulty intelligence, poor planning and so on. In other words, life isn't tidy, either inside or outside the Deep State.

Nonetheless we can postulate a few things with some certainty. One is that the Deep State-- the unelected, permanent government which includes not just the intelligence community but a vast array of agencies and institutions as well as the top-level structures of diplomacy, finance and geopolitics--is not monolithic. There are different views and competing camps, but the disagreements and bureaucratic wars are kept out of sight.

Two, we know that at critical junctures of history one camp wins the narrative battle and establishes the over-riding direction of state policy. Put another way, one camp's understanding of the era's most pressing problems becomes the consensus, and from then on disagreements are within the broad outlines of the dominant ideology.

The end of World War II was a critical juncture. The proper role of the U.S. in the postwar era was up for grabs, and over the course of a few years, the CIA and other intelligence agencies were established and the doctrine of containment of the Soviet Union became the dominant narrative, a narrative that held with remarkable consistency for four decades until the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991.

This collapse was another critical juncture, and debates over America's role in this "unipolar era" were finally settled in favor of the geopolitical-activist ideology of neoconservatism (Neocons).

This globalist ideology led to a variety of policy disasters and is now discredited in many circles, and has been under attack within the Deep State for some time. This is the divided Deep State I've written about for the past five years.

Is the Deep State Fracturing into Disunity? (March 14, 2014)

Is the Deep State at War--With Itself? (December 14, 2016)

The failures of Neocon globalism have ushered in another critical juncture. What is America's proper role in a multi-polar world that is fracturing across multiple faultlines? This critical juncture is a manifestation of a broader profound political disunity in America and many other nations.

The corporate media has obligingly portrayed this profound political disunity as a contest between "good globalism" and "bad populism," a clear attempt to smear all those who see the dark side of globalism as a threat to the nation and indeed the world. This bias reflects the continued dominance of the Neocon-globalist camp.

But the cracks are now visible. The mainstream "influential" press has recently been publishing critiques admitting the failures of Neocon globalism and agonizing about how to "save" the globalist agenda despite its failures.

Globalization's Wrong Turn--And How It Hurt America (Foreign Affairs)

I have long held that there is a camp within the Deep State that grasps the end-game of Neocon globalism, and is busy assembling a competing nation-centric strategy. There is tremendous resistance to the abandonment of Neocon globalism, not just from those who see power slipping through their fingers but from all those firmly committed to the hubris of a magical faith in past success as the guarantor of future success.

Michael Grant described this complacent clinging to what's failed in his excellent account The Fall of the Roman Empire , a short book I have been recommending since 2009:

There was no room at all, in these ways of thinking, for the novel, apocalyptic situation which had now arisen, a situation which needed solutions as radical as itself. (The Status Quo) attitude is a complacent acceptance of things as they are, without a single new idea.

This acceptance was accompanied by greatly excessive optimism about the present and future. Even when the end was only sixty years away, and the Empire was already crumbling fast, Rutilius continued to address the spirit of Rome with the same supreme assurance.

This blind adherence to the ideas of the past ranks high among the principal causes of the downfall of Rome. If you were sufficiently lulled by these traditional fictions, there was no call to take any practical first-aid measures at all.

The faction within the Deep State that no longer accepts traditional fictions is gaining ground, and now another fracture in the Deep State is coming to the fore: the traditionalists who accept the systemic corruption of self-serving elites and those who have finally awakened to the mortal danger to the nation posed by amoral self-serving elites.

The debauchery of morals undermines the legitimacy of the state and thus of the entire power structure. As I recently noted in Following in Rome's Footsteps: Moral Decay, Rising Inequality (June 29, 2019), America's current path of moral decay and soaring wealth/power inequality is tracking Rome's collapse step for step.

Enter the sordid case of Jeffrey Epstein, suddenly unearthed after a decade of corporate-media/elitist suppression. It's laughable to see the corporate media's pathetic attempts to glom onto the case now, after actively suppressing it for decades: Jeffrey Epstein Was a Sex Offender. The Powerful Welcomed Him Anyway. (New York Times) Where was the NYT a decade ago, or five years ago, or even a year ago?

Of all the questions that are arising, the signal one is simply: why now? There are many questions, now that the dead-and-buried case has been dug up: where did Epstein get his fortune? Why did he return to the U.S. from abroad, knowing he'd be arrested? Why was the Miami Herald suddenly able to publish numerous articles exposing the scandalous suppression of justice after 11 years of silence? Years later, victims recount impact of Jeffrey Epstein abuse .

Here's my outsider's take: the anti-Neocon camp within the Deep State observed the test case of Harvey Weinstein and saw an opportunity to apply what it learned. If we draw circles representing the anti-Neocon camp and the moralists who grasp the state's legitimacy is hanging by a thread after decades of amoral exploitation and self-aggrandizement by the ruling elites, we would find a large overlap.

But even die-hard Neocons are starting to awaken to the danger to their power posed by the moral collapse of the ruling elites. They are finally awakening to the lesson of history, that the fatal danger to empires arises not from external foes but from inside the center of power as elite corruption erodes the legitimacy of the state.

The upstarts in the Deep State have united to declare open war on the degenerates and their enablers, who are everywhere in the Deep State: the media, the intelligence community, and on and on.

Since the battle is for the legitimacy of the state, it must be waged at least partially in the open. This is a war for the hearts and minds of the public, whose belief in the legitimacy of the state and its ruling elites underpins the power of the Deep State.

If this wasn't a war over the legitimacy of the state, the housecleaning would have been discrete. Insiders would be shuffled off to a corporate boardroom or do-nothing/fancy title office, or they'd retire, or if necessary, they'd die of a sudden heart attack or in a tragic accident ( if only they knew ).

The cockroaches are scurrying, and the challenge now is to crush as many as possible before they find cover. Bullies are at heart cowards, and once the bullies who were untouchable due to powerful friends in powerful places are exposed to an accounting of their behavior, they will spill the beans on everyone in a craven attempt to lighten the consequences of their corruption and debauchery.

Power is a funny thing: when it dissipates suddenly, it dissipates completely.

All those who were confident they were untouchable might want to heed this sign: carefully fall into the cliff .

The hidden conflicts within the Deep State are emerging, and the resulting crisis will be explosive. Remember, the housecleaning must be public or the legitimacy of the state will go over the cliff. If the Deep State wants to retain its power, it must root out the corrupt degenerates before they bring down the entire rotten structure.

[Jul 26, 2019] Of Two Minds - Our Ruling Elites Have No Idea How Much We Want to See Them All in Prison Jumpsuits

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https://acdn.adnxs.com/ib/static/usersync/v3/async_usersync.html The Nobility of the feudal era had some reciprocal obligation to its serfs; our New Nobility has no obligation to anyone but themselves. It is painfully obvious that there are two sets of laws in America: bankers can rip off billions and never serve time, and members of the Protected Class who sexually exploit children get a wrist-slap, if that.

Here's the sad reality: everybody in the Ruling Elites looked the other way: all the self-described "patriots" in the Intelligence services, all the technocrats in the Departments of Justice, State, etc., the Pentagon, and on and on. Everybody with any power knows the whole class of Ruling Elites is completely corrupt, by definition: to secure power in the U.S., you have to sell your soul to the Devil , one way or the other.

Like all Ruling Elites, America's Elites are absolutely confident in their power: this is hubris taken to new heights.

That the citizenry could finally have enough of their corrupt, self-serving Overlords does not seem in the realm of possibility to the Protected Few. There's always a way to lawyer-up and plea-bargain for a wrist-slap, a way to bend another "patriot" (barf), a way to offer a bribe cloaked as a plum position in a philanthro-capitalist NGO (non-governmental organization), and so on.

The possibility that moral outrage could spark a revolt seems improbable in such a distracted culture, but consider the chart below: even the most distracted, fragmented tribe of the peasantry eventually notices that they're not in the top 1%, or the top 0.1%, and that the Ruling Elites have overseen an unprecedented concentration of wealth and power into the hands of the few at the expense of the many:

[Jul 26, 2019] Jeffrey Epstein Found Injured In Jail Cell As He Awaits Sex Abuse Trial

Jul 26, 2019 | www.huffpost.com

Jeffrey Epstein was found injured in his New York City jail cell while awaiting federal sex abuse charges, according to multiple reports. The multimillionaire financier, who is accused of sex trafficking underage girls, was found semi-conscious at the Metropolitan Correctional Center with marks on his neck, local station NBC New York first reported , citing sources close to the investigation. REAL LIFE. REAL NEWS. REAL VOICES. Help us tell more of the stories that matter from voices that too often remain unheard.

It's not yet clear whether the injuries, which were incurred Tuesday, were self-inflicted or the result of an assault. The injuries were not described as serious and prison officials were treating it as a possible suicide attempt, a law enforcement official who had been briefed on the matter told The New York Times . A spokesperson for the Federal Bureau of Prisons in an email to HuffPost on Thursday said Epstein remains housed at the jail facility, denying reports that he had been taken to a local hospital for treatment.

"As with all inmates, for privacy and security reasons, we do not share information on an inmate's medical status or their conditions of confinement," the spokesperson added.

Jeffrey Epstein, seen in a photo provided by the New York State Sex Offender Registry, was reportedly found injured in his jail cell after arrested on sex trafficking charges.
The 66-year-old was arrested on July 6 and last week denied bail by a judge after prosecutors labeled him an "extraordinary" flight risk. He has pleaded not guilty to the charges.

A lawyer for Epstein had said that his client was willing to post up to $100 million to secure his release. This followed his defense team asking that he be allowed to await trial under house arrest in his $77 million Manhattan mansion with electronic monitoring. But Assistant U.S. Attorney Alex Rossmiller argued against his release, reasoning that investigators found "piles of cash," "dozens of diamonds" and an expired passport with an alias and a Saudi Arabian address during a search of his mansion.

Epstein's attorneys argued that the passport had been expired for more than 30 years and had been only used for "personal protection" while traveling abroad, in case he came upon potential kidnappers, hijackers or terrorists.

Prosecutors noted that the passport appeared to have been used during entry into France, Spain, the United Kingdom and Saudi Arabia.

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snoopydawg on Fri, 07/26/2019 - 1:22am Government by Blackmail: Jeffrey Epstein, Trump's Mentor and the Dark Secrets of the Reagan Era

Appalling for both the villainous abuse of children itself and the chilling implications of government by blackmail, this tangled web of unsavory alliances casts a lurid light on the political history of the U.S. from the Prohibition Era right up through the Age of Trump. This report, Part II of this series titled "The Jeffrey Epstein Scandal: Too Big To Fail," will delve into Cohn's close ties to the Reagan administration, which was also closely tied to the same organized crime network led by the infamous mob figure Meyer Lansky, which was discussed in Part I.

Jeffrey Epstein, the billionaire who now sits in jail on federal charges for the sex trafficking of minors, has continued to draw media scrutiny in the weeks after his arrest on July 6. Part of the reason for this continued media interest is related to Epstein's alleged relationship to the intelligence services and new information about the true extent of the sexual blackmail operation Epstein is believed to have run for decades.

As MintPress reported last week , Epstein was able to run this sordid operation for so long precisely because his was only the latest incarnation of a much older, more extensive operation that began in the 1950s and perhaps even earlier.

Years later, documents released by the FBI would show that Epstein became an FBI informant in 2008, when Robert Mueller was the Bureau's director, in exchange for immunity from then-pending federal charges , a deal that fell through with Epstein's recent arrest on new federal charges. In addition, former FBI Director Louis Freeh would be hired by Alan Dershowitz, who is accused of raping girls at Epstein's homes and was once a character witness for Roy Cohn, to intimidate Epstein's victims. As previously mentioned, Freeh's past appointment as a judge for the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York was orchestrated by Cohn's law partner Tom Bolan.

Thus, the FBI's cover-up of the Franklin case is just one example of the Bureau's long-standing practice of protecting these pedophile rings when they involve members of the American political elite and provide the Bureau with a steady supply of blackmail. It also makes it worth questioning the impartiality of one of the main prosecutors in the Jeffrey Epstein case,

All of this has taken place with the full knowledge and blessing of top figures in the world of "philanthropy" and in the U.S. government and intelligence communities, with great influence over several presidential administrations, particularly since the rise of Ronald Reagan and continuing through to Donald Trump.

There is no way to properly excerpt the article without leaving out important information so you can read it yourselves. Whitney Webb has done an outstanding job piecing together the numerous players who have been involved in child sexual abuse going back to the prohibition era with the full knowledge of many people high up in government. Reagan, George H.W Bush, many members of congress, the state department, the FBI and CIA and the Catholic Church. These people turned a blind eye to the suffering of countless boys and girls just so they could advance whatever sick ..... they wanted.

Epstein was found in his cell in a fetal position with marks on his neck. There are some very powerful people who don't want him to talk and that he wasn't under protective control already and on suicide watch is unfuckingbelievable. Unless of course the people who have a lot to lose did it on purpose.

Start with part one of this heinous saga to see how long the PTB have deliberately turned a blind eye to child abuse.

Lookout on Fri, 07/26/2019 - 7:02am
The FBI and CIA...

are the mafia branch of our government marketing drugs, sex, and anything else to suppress socialism and promote more war and conflict. Helluva fix.

QMS on Fri, 07/26/2019 - 7:13am
Sounds like this prevert Got the memo.

Clam up or die.

Aya carumba.

Fishtroller 02 on Fri, 07/26/2019 - 9:13am
Wish there was a way to read her two articles about this

in copy instead of online.... I hate reading long stuff online.

WoodsDweller on Fri, 07/26/2019 - 10:04am
Are you having trouble printing?

@Fishtroller 02
I did a quick "print preview" in FireFox and it looked good. I see FF has a "simplify page" setting now that reduced the size by a factor of three.

in copy instead of online.... I hate reading long stuff online.

Bob In Portland on Fri, 07/26/2019 - 11:20am
Worse than you can imagine

I am reading a a page-turner about the Manson case, CHAOS, by Tom O'Neil. I am only 130 or so pages into it but one thing is clear: Vincent Bugliosi suborned perjury, concealed evidence and his "helter skelter" theory of the case, the theory on which The Family were convicted, was an invention.

How does this connect with Epstein? Well, first off it confirms that Bugliosi has been a liar most of his adult life, as while this is the first book-length criticism of his handling of the case, I think it goes far to show that his role has been the generation of false narratives for many cases. It also suggests the the LADA office has been infiltrated by people with an amoral violence who have no allegiance to the truth. And I suspect, by the time I get to the end of the book, that the lines of power will have extended to many of the other large scandals over the last half-century, meaning that the deepest corridors of power have been entertaining the American public with gruesome psyops that push the public this way or that.

This is not the first book to criticize Bugliosi's body of work. Jim DiEugenio wrote and then revised a book on all the lies perpetrated in Bugliosi's "masterpiece" on the JFK murder and its investigation. Lisa Pease hasn't been kind to Bugliosi. Nor have I. He wrote a foreward to Mark Fuhrman's and then wrote a book of his own on the Brentwood murders, which should make anyone suspicious of the official prosecution story of that double homicide.

What needs to be reiterated is that the CIA, born out of corrupt Wall Streeters, insanely right-wing generals and a coven of Nazi war criminals, have performed as one would expect.

The CIA has infiltrated every government agency, allowing the criminals like Stein to operate. Not only allowing them to operate but to use them as part of their larger goals.

Right now I am on my computer, which is collecting all my information. It has a camera which can get live videos of me without my say so. We have one of those Alexa thingies that can record things we talk about in our home. I've got a Samsung TV with an ear open. There are surveillance cameras on every block of our cities.

Can I say this? We are fucked. Grab some popcorn and watch America's rapid demise into full-control fascism.

The Liberal Moonbat on Fri, 07/26/2019 - 12:19pm
I'd only heard good things about Bugliosi

@Bob In Portland What do you think of his case to prosecute W for mass-murder ?

Heck, how do we know what you've been reading hasn't been a smear campaign to discredit another true enemy of Morgoth?

I am reading a a page-turner about the Manson case, CHAOS, by Tom O'Neil. I am only 130 or so pages into it but one thing is clear: Vincent Bugliosi suborned perjury, concealed evidence and his "helter skelter" theory of the case, the theory on which The Family were convicted, was an invention.

How does this connect with Epstein? Well, first off it confirms that Bugliosi has been a liar most of his adult life, as while this is the first book-length criticism of his handling of the case, I think it goes far to show that his role has been the generation of false narratives for many cases. It also suggests the the LADA office has been infiltrated by people with an amoral violence who have no allegiance to the truth. And I suspect, by the time I get to the end of the book, that the lines of power will have extended to many of the other large scandals over the last half-century, meaning that the deepest corridors of power have been entertaining the American public with gruesome psyops that push the public this way or that.

This is not the first book to criticize Bugliosi's body of work. Jim DiEugenio wrote and then revised a book on all the lies perpetrated in Bugliosi's "masterpiece" on the JFK murder and its investigation. Lisa Pease hasn't been kind to Bugliosi. Nor have I. He wrote a foreward to Mark Fuhrman's and then wrote a book of his own on the Brentwood murders, which should make anyone suspicious of the official prosecution story of that double homicide.

What needs to be reiterated is that the CIA, born out of corrupt Wall Streeters, insanely right-wing generals and a coven of Nazi war criminals, have performed as one would expect.

The CIA has infiltrated every government agency, allowing the criminals like Stein to operate. Not only allowing them to operate but to use them as part of their larger goals.

Right now I am on my computer, which is collecting all my information. It has a camera which can get live videos of me without my say so. We have one of those Alexa thingies that can record things we talk about in our home. I've got a Samsung TV with an ear open. There are surveillance cameras on every block of our cities.

Can I say this? We are fucked. Grab some popcorn and watch America's rapid demise into full-control fascism.

Bob In Portland on Fri, 07/26/2019 - 12:49pm
@The Liberal Moonbat Didn't read it, but I'd

@The Liberal Moonbat Didn't read it, but I'd already pretty much figured out that Dubya was deep into the Deep State. And using "al Qaeda" as a reaon to attack Iraq wasn't too hard to figure out his bullshit. Plus, he used Mueller to cover up 9/11.

Bugliosi is labeled as a liberal, and as such provides margins to what people on the left side of the imaginary aisle are allowed to think. He's a thought leader, very important in social control. It wouldn't do for a Billy Graham Jr. to be used as a thought leader of the left, would it?

But a prosecutor who suborns perjury and writes volumes supporting the Warren Commission should raise suspicions by those following him and his positions. DiEugenio, who wrote THE JFK ASSASSINATION about all of Bugliosi's JFK BS in the JFK assassination, is a good place to start. CHAOS looks like another place to go.

I'll look up to see what Morgoth is, but attaching some kind of satanic creature to an atheist's analysis of deep politics smells a little like bad-jacketing.

#4 What do you think of his case to prosecute W for mass-murder ?

Heck, how do we know what you've been reading hasn't been a smear campaign to discredit another true enemy of Morgoth?

The Liberal Moonbat on Fri, 07/26/2019 - 1:39pm
"Bad-jacketing" - I'd never heard of that before

@Bob In Portland Morgoth is the Supreme Evil (as in, above Sauron) of Tolkien's Middle-Earth - I simply meant it, as I have invoked it before, as a half-sardonic synonym for the Deep State/Military-Industrial Complex.

#4.1 Didn't read it, but I'd already pretty much figured out that Dubya was deep into the Deep State. And using "al Qaeda" as a reaon to attack Iraq wasn't too hard to figure out his bullshit. Plus, he used Mueller to cover up 9/11.

Bugliosi is labeled as a liberal, and as such provides margins to what people on the left side of the imaginary aisle are allowed to think. He's a thought leader, very important in social control. It wouldn't do for a Billy Graham Jr. to be used as a thought leader of the left, would it?

But a prosecutor who suborns perjury and writes volumes supporting the Warren Commission should raise suspicions by those following him and his positions. DiEugenio, who wrote THE JFK ASSASSINATION about all of Bugliosi's JFK BS in the JFK assassination, is a good place to start. CHAOS looks like another place to go.

I'll look up to see what Morgoth is, but attaching some kind of satanic creature to an atheist's analysis of deep politics smells a little like bad-jacketing.

edg on Fri, 07/26/2019 - 1:40pm
Was Manson innocent?

@Bob In Portland

Set up by the CIA? Wow. Who knew?

I am reading a a page-turner about the Manson case, CHAOS, by Tom O'Neil. I am only 130 or so pages into it but one thing is clear: Vincent Bugliosi suborned perjury, concealed evidence and his "helter skelter" theory of the case, the theory on which The Family were convicted, was an invention.

How does this connect with Epstein? Well, first off it confirms that Bugliosi has been a liar most of his adult life, as while this is the first book-length criticism of his handling of the case, I think it goes far to show that his role has been the generation of false narratives for many cases. It also suggests the the LADA office has been infiltrated by people with an amoral violence who have no allegiance to the truth. And I suspect, by the time I get to the end of the book, that the lines of power will have extended to many of the other large scandals over the last half-century, meaning that the deepest corridors of power have been entertaining the American public with gruesome psyops that push the public this way or that.

This is not the first book to criticize Bugliosi's body of work. Jim DiEugenio wrote and then revised a book on all the lies perpetrated in Bugliosi's "masterpiece" on the JFK murder and its investigation. Lisa Pease hasn't been kind to Bugliosi. Nor have I. He wrote a foreward to Mark Fuhrman's and then wrote a book of his own on the Brentwood murders, which should make anyone suspicious of the official prosecution story of that double homicide.

What needs to be reiterated is that the CIA, born out of corrupt Wall Streeters, insanely right-wing generals and a coven of Nazi war criminals, have performed as one would expect.

The CIA has infiltrated every government agency, allowing the criminals like Stein to operate. Not only allowing them to operate but to use them as part of their larger goals.

Right now I am on my computer, which is collecting all my information. It has a camera which can get live videos of me without my say so. We have one of those Alexa thingies that can record things we talk about in our home. I've got a Samsung TV with an ear open. There are surveillance cameras on every block of our cities.

Can I say this? We are fucked. Grab some popcorn and watch America's rapid demise into full-control fascism.

Bob In Portland on Fri, 07/26/2019 - 11:36am Bob In Portland on Fri, 07/26/2019 - 11:39am
Or Ted Haggard

sniffing speed off a male prostitute's pectorals.

Snode on Fri, 07/26/2019 - 11:43am
Seems "our" government

is capable of anything. Is assassination of politicians by the government too far fetched? Maybe this is why the democratic party is the way it is today.

earthling1 on Fri, 07/26/2019 - 12:45pm
And some people

can't believe J.Edgar Hoover wore ladies undergarments. Cream may rise to the top, but mildew quickly forms above that.

[Jul 25, 2019] Epstein Visited Clinton White House Multiple Times In The 1990s

Notable quotes:
"... And according to the Beast , "Clinton also failed to mention the intimate 1995 fundraising dinner at the Palm Beach home of Revlon mogul Ron Perelman, where Clinton hobnobbed with the likes of Epstein, Don Johnson, and Jimmy Buffett. (Nearby, at Epstein's own Palm Beach mansion, the money man allegedly abused hundreds of underage girls.)" ..."
"... Meanwhile, Clinton's college friend A. Paul Prosperi visited Epstein at least 20 times while he was in the Palm Beach county jail after pleading guilty to procuring an underage prostitute in 2008. Prosperi was also present at a 1995 Perelman fundraiser at which both Clinton and Epstein were present. ..."
"... Over that same time period, a source with knowledge of the situation told The Daily Beast, Middleton met with Epstein in the White House at least three times . It is unclear what they discussed, or for how long. Middleton did not respond to repeated calls and emails for comment, or to a reporter who visited his home in Arkansas. ..."
Jul 25, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Bill Clinton's attempts to distance himself from convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein have taken yet another blow - after a Daily Beast investigation reveals that the financier - who came highly recommended by Lynn Forester de Rothschild - visited the Clinton White House multiple times .

As early as 1993, records show, Epstein donated $10,000 to the White House Historical Association and attended a donors' reception hosted by Bill and Hillary Clinton. Around the same time, according to a source familiar with the connection, Epstein visited presidential aide Mark Middleton several times at the White House . Two years later, businesswoman Lynn Forester de Rothschild wrote a personal letter to Clinton thanking him for their talk about the financier . - Daily Beast

On July 8, the former president sought to distance himself from Epstein, claiming that the two crossed paths just six times beginning in 2002; "four flights on the billionaire's private jet, a single trip to his Harlem office, and one "brief visit" to his New York apartment, all with staff and security detail in tow," per the Beast .

"President Clinton knows nothing about the terrible crimes Jeffrey Epstein pleaded guilty to in Florida some years ago, or those with which he has been recently charged in New York," Clinton spokesperson, Angel Ureña, told the Beast. " Any suggestion to the contrary is both factually inaccurate and irresponsible."

Clinton's denial flies in the face of flight logs from Epstein's now-sold 'Lolita Express' 727 jet at least 26 times .

When the president released his initial statement on Epstein, he did not explain the multiple other trips he appears to have taken on the financier's plane -- including one flight to Westchester with Epstein, his alleged madam Ghislaine Maxwell, and an "unnamed female." - Daily Beast

And according to the Beast , "Clinton also failed to mention the intimate 1995 fundraising dinner at the Palm Beach home of Revlon mogul Ron Perelman, where Clinton hobnobbed with the likes of Epstein, Don Johnson, and Jimmy Buffett. (Nearby, at Epstein's own Palm Beach mansion, the money man allegedly abused hundreds of underage girls.)"

While Politico claimed in a piece last week that the Clintons and Epstein connected through Epstein's longtime confidant and alleged procurer of young women - Ghislaine Maxwell, after Clinton left office, documents in the Clinton Library attest to much earlier links .

In late September of 1993, Bill and Hillary Clinton hosted a reception for supporters who had contributed to recent White House renovations. The nearly $400,000 overhaul -- which included new gold draperies and a 13-color woven rug for the Oval Office -- was funded entirely by donations to the White House Historical Association, a private organization that helps preserve and promote the White House as a historical monument.

The reception took place at the White House residence from 7:30 to 9:30 p.m., according to a copy of the president's daily schedule. White House Social Secretary Ann Stock -- who appears in Epstein's little black book of phone numbers -- was listed as the point of contact . According to multiple attendees, the evening included an intimate tour of the newly refurbished residence, followed by a receiving line with the president and first lady. Dessert was served in the East Room, where the couple thanked everyone for attending and announced the Committee for the Preservation of the White House.

Guests for the event , according to the invitation list, included the journalist and philanthropist Barbara Goldsmith, heiress Jane Engelhard, political consultant Cynthia Friedman, and " Mr Jeffrey Epstein and Ms. Ghislaine Maxwell ." Epstein and Maxwell do not appear on the 'regret list,' and there is a letter 'A' next to both of their names, indicating they planned to attend . A press release from the event, put out by Hillary Clinton's office, lists Epstein as a White House Historical Association donor. - Daily Beast

Meanwhile, Clinton's college friend A. Paul Prosperi visited Epstein at least 20 times while he was in the Palm Beach county jail after pleading guilty to procuring an underage prostitute in 2008. Prosperi was also present at a 1995 Perelman fundraiser at which both Clinton and Epstein were present.

Another Clinton connection with Epstein comes through White House aide Mark E. Middleton - a friend of Clinton's from his beginnings in Arkansas who joined the administration in 1993 as special assistant to Chief of Staff Mack McClarty (another Arkansas insider, per the Beast ). Middleton would rise to the level of "Deputy to the Counselor" in 1994.

Over that same time period, a source with knowledge of the situation told The Daily Beast, Middleton met with Epstein in the White House at least three times . It is unclear what they discussed, or for how long. Middleton did not respond to repeated calls and emails for comment, or to a reporter who visited his home in Arkansas.

Middleton and Epstein also appear to have shared a famous friend in common. Donald Trump -- who once called Epstein a "terrific guy" -- sent Middleton a signed copy of his book , The Art of the Deal , while the lawyer was working in the White House. The inscription read, " To Mark -- Best wishes. Your mom is the best ."

Hobnobbing with businessmen like Epstein and Trump was part and parcel of Middleton's White House job , according to a 1999 report from the House Committee on Government Reform. ("In the course of his duties, Middleton was in contact with many prominent business people and contributors to the President," the report states.) But it also got the lawyer in trouble with the administration once he left. - Daily Beast

Rothschild letter

In 1995, Lynn Forester de Rothschild writes ""Dear Mr. President: It was a pleasure to see you recently at Senator Kennedy's house. There was too much to discuss and too little time. Using my fifteen seconds of access to discuss Jeffrey Epstein and currency stabilization, I neglected to talk to you about a topic near and dear to my heart. Namely, affirmative action and the future."

Of note, former Epstein attorney and pal Alan Dershowitz previously said that Forester de Rothschild introduced him to Epstein at a party on Martha's Vineyard for Lord Rothschild in the summer of 1996.

"He was feisty, he was utterly politically incorrect," said Dershowitz in a recent interview with New York magazine. "He was interesting to be with."

He was also sexually molesting underage girls.


Bounder , 7 minutes ago link

He should have just said:

"I didnt have sex with those under age girls" and shook his finger at us.

Schroedingers Cat , 9 minutes ago link

Bill Clinton and that vicious evil **** of a wife Hillary have done more to **** this country up and the entire world than any other human beings. No contest.

Give Me Some Truth , 19 minutes ago link

Remember when Harvey Weinstein was the "scum" of the moment? During these "15 minutes," director Quentin Tarantino acknowledged his regret in not exposing Weinstein. Basically, he gave an interview where he admitted he knew what his producer friend had been doing - or must have been doing - all these years, and yet Taratino did nothing. Taratino gets credit in my book for acknowledging this. In other words, he COULD have done something to stop his activities/crimes, but did not.

Compare and contrast Tarantino's "mea culpa" to the HUNDREDS of VIPs who must have known what Epstein was doing - for decades. And remained silent and never considered going to authorities.

Scores or hundreds of people COULD have stopped this, but did not.

This tells us much about our system and the "leaders" who rule us. Also about our "watchdog" press corps, which had no interest in exposing this person or his operation.

Tunga , 21 minutes ago link

Affirmative action? Ha! 1 year later Clinton signs into law permission for the Attorney General to traffic in little kids without Judicial oversight;

SEC. 604. ASYLUM REFORM.

(a) Asylum Reform.--Section 208 (8 U.S.C. 1158) is amended to read as follows: ... (D) No judicial review.--There shall be no judicial review of a determination of the Attorney General under subparagraph (A)(v). ..." - excerpt from https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-104publ208/html/PLAW-104publ208.htm

Give Me Some Truth , 36 minutes ago link

Bill Richardson seems to be getting a pass so far on this story. While he has been identified as being in Epstein's "black book" and receiving a couple of $50,000 campaign donations from Epstein, what hasn't been mentioned is Richardson's key role as a Clinton "fixer" and sycophant. Typically, he is identified only as a "former New Mexico governor."

But prior to being elected governor of New Mexico, he served (if memory is correct) as the U.S. ambassador to the U.N. under Bill Clinton. It was in this role that he "found" a job for Monica Lewinsky, when Clinton had to move her out of the White House.

No telling what he did for Clinton before he was rewarded with this plum appointment.

I'm sure if a real investigation ever occurred we would learn that New Mexico leaders were as "bought off" as the U.S. Virgin Island leaders had to be.

Epstein bought his 7,500 acre "ranch" from a former New Mexico governor. Richardson admits he visited this place one time (yeah right). The "ranch" has no cattle and has its own air strip. Hasn't anyone in this state, or this county, investigated what was going on at this place?

But if Richardson and Clinton are both involved (and they are), we know they were both up to no good, and we're trying to keep something secret.

Distant_Star , 48 minutes ago link

" Clinton's college friend A. Paul Prosperi visited Epstein at least 20 times while he was in the Palm Beach county jail . . ."

Just checking on Epstein's well-being and morale. A true humanitarian. There is no chance that Mr. Prosperi was acting as a cut-out for the Clinton family. /S

FUG , 15 minutes ago link

Paul must have visited him at night since Epstein was hardly in his cell during the daytime due to the allowance of liberal furloughs 6.5 days per week and "business trips" he was allowed to take that lasted several days.

Give Me Some Truth , 56 minutes ago link

Virginia Roberts is on the record - in sworn affidavits - of saying she had sex with Prince Andrew on three occasions. She even mention the places and time frames she was at these places with Prince Andrew.

Can't reporters or investigators simply see if Prince Andrew was at these places at the same time she was? Wouldn't this corroborate (or disprove/impeach) her story?

They won't even do this.

Distant_Star , 45 minutes ago link

Absolutely not. "Journalists" have no time to check on the Prince Andrew story, or the allegation that Bill Clinton flew with Epstein 26 times. They are too busy pursuing false allegations against Trump and putting spin on Mueller's train-wreck testimony from yesterday.

Give Me Some Truth , 35 minutes ago link

I think it would be easy to prove that Clinton "dismissed" his Secret Service detail on many occasions, right?

Doesn't he have to sign some kind of release when he does this?

Simply check the dates he did this and cross-reference to Epstein's schedule. Simply find out who he travelled with and to where on these occasions.

Plenty of ex Secret Service might grant interviews, even off the record or anonymously, right?

Give Me Some Truth , 52 minutes ago link

This story intimates that Bill Clinton and Jeff Epstein knew one another long before Clinton says they knew one another. And were much closer to one another than we have been led to believe.

And anyone who spent a lot of time with Epstein knew exactly what commodity/service Epstein offered.

Even if Clinton never availed himself of the services offered by one of Epstein's girls, he had to know exactly what business Epstein "trafficked" in. Of course, the notion that Clinton never "sampled the product" is laughable.

The little voice inside my head , 7 minutes ago link

The story also opens the door to a vast amount of connections previously unknown, you could follow the people mentioned in the article and see what became of them and start building a web... Many posts here are starting to do that. Hopeful

Give Me Some Truth , 1 hour ago link

This was some real investigative journalism. All reporters had to do was check White House records that show who attended what events. This story PROVES Clinton was lying if he indeed said he didn't know Epstein until after he was out of office. This alone is grounds to investigate him further. (Things he said in the past have now been proven to be lies - Investigation 101).

Reporters then showed Clinton's long-time buddy (who ran his political campaign at Georgetown) was also an associate of Epstein. And this person visited Epstein 20 times (!) while Epstein was in jail (over a 13-month period).

These CAN'T be coincidences.

Anyway, most of these people will say "no comment" or will refuse to respond to requests for comments. But this doesn't mean reporters can't find incriminating sources or stories from other avenues.

For example, Vanity Fair reporters simply interviewed people who worked at the Virgin Islands airport. They then asked these people: "Did you happen to see a large number of young girls boarding or getting off Epstein's planes?"

Answer: Yes. Definitely. All the time.

I mean, what are we to make of this?

Why were so many young girls traveling to and from Epstein's island?

There can only be one answer.

PrivetHedge , 1 hour ago link

Lynn Forester de Rothschild

The connections to the elite go deep. Very deep. This is an interesting test of their grip on the narrative.

Give Me Some Truth , 35 minutes ago link

I'd like to learn more about all the news organizations that "took a pass" on investigating this story.

The Palm Beach Police Chief can give the names of several of these organizations.

According to the Miami Herald story, he grew "tired" of all these reporters talking to him and never publishing a single story.

Well, which reporters from which news organizations did he talk to who subsequently dropped the story?

This is another story where the "investigators" should also be investigated.

[Jul 25, 2019] The Epstein Case Is A Rare Opportunity To Focus On The Depraved Nature Of America s Elite

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... When scanning the news most days, I see a constant amplification of wedge issues by mass media, blue-check pundits and even many in the so-called alternative media. I see people increasingly being encouraged to demonize and dehumanize their fellow citizens. Anyone who voted for Trump is automatically a Nazi, likewise, anyone who supports Sanders is an anti-American communist. The reality is neither of these things is even remotely true, so why are people so quick to say them? ..."
"... The Epstein case shines a gigantic spotlight on just how twisted and sociopathic the highest echelons of U.S. society have become. This is exactly what happens when you fail to put wealthy and powerful super predators behind bars. They get more brazen, they get more demented and, ultimately, they destroy the very fabric that holds society together. We are in fact ruled by monsters. ..."
Jul 25, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Michael Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

Perhaps, at long last, a serial rapist and pedophile may be brought to justice , more than a dozen years after he was first charged with crimes that have brutalized countless girls and women. But what won't change is this: the cesspool of elites, many of them in New York, who allowed Jeffrey Epstein to flourish with impunity.

For decades, important, influential, "serious" people attended Epstein's dinner parties, rode his private jet, and furthered the fiction that he was some kind of genius hedge-fund billionaire. How do we explain why they looked the other way, or flattered Epstein, even as they must have noticed he was often in the company of a young harem? Easy: They got something in exchange from him , whether it was a free ride on that airborne "Lolita Express," some other form of monetary largesse, entrée into the extravagant celebrity soirées he hosted at his townhouse, or, possibly and harrowingly, a pound or two of female flesh.

– From the New York Magazine article: Who Was Jeffrey Epstein Calling?

An honest assessment of the current state of American politics and society in general leaves little room for optimism regarding the public's ability to accurately diagnose, much less tackle, our fundamental issues at a root level. A primary reason for this state of affairs boils down to the ease with which the American public is divided against itself and conquered.

Though there are certain issues pretty much everyone can agree on, we simply aren't focusing our collective energy on them or creating the mass movements necessary to address them. Things such as systemic bipartisan corruption, the institutionalization of a two-tier justice system in which the wealthy and powerful are above the law, a broken economy that requires both parents to work and still barely make ends meet, and a military-industrial complex consumed with profits and imperial aggression not national defense. These are just a few of the many issues that should easily unite us against an entrenched power structure, but it is not happening. At least not yet.

We currently find ourselves at a unique inflection point in American history. Though I agree with Charles Hugh Smith's assessment that " Our Ruling Elites Have No Idea How Much We Want to See Them All in Prison Jumpsuits, " we have yet to reach the point where the general public is prepared to do something about it. I think there are several reasons for this, but the primary obstacle relates to how easily the citizenry is divided and conquered. The mass media, largely owned and controlled by billionaires and their corporations, is highly incentivized to keep the public divided against itself on trivial issues, or at best, on real problems that are merely symptoms of bipartisan elitist plunder.

The key thing, from a plutocrat's point of view, is to make sure the public never takes a step back and sees the root of society's problems. It isn't Trump or Obama, and it isn't the Republican or Democratic parties either. These individuals and political gangs are just useful vehicles for elitist plunder. They help herd the rabble into comfortable little tribal boxes that results in made for tv squabbling, while the true forces of power carry on with the business of societal pillaging behind the scenes.

You're encouraged to attach your identity to team Republican or team Democrat, but never unite as one voice against a bipartisan crew of depraved, corrupt and unaccountable power players molding society from the top. While the average person living paycheck to paycheck fashions themselves part of some biblical fight of good vs. evil by supporting team red or blue, the manipulative and powerful at the top remain beyond such plebeian theater (though they certainly encourage it). These folks know only one team -- team green. And their team keeps winning, by the way.

When scanning the news most days, I see a constant amplification of wedge issues by mass media, blue-check pundits and even many in the so-called alternative media. I see people increasingly being encouraged to demonize and dehumanize their fellow citizens. Anyone who voted for Trump is automatically a Nazi, likewise, anyone who supports Sanders is an anti-American communist. The reality is neither of these things is even remotely true, so why are people so quick to say them?

Why is most of the anger in this country being directed at fellow powerless Americans versus upward at the power structure which nurtured and continues to defend the current depraved status quo? I don't see any upside to actively encouraging one side of the political discussion to dehumanize the other side, and I suggest we consciously cease engaging in such behavior. Absolutely nothing good can come from it.

Which is partly why I've been so consumed by the Jeffrey Epstein case. For once, it allows us to focus our energy on the depraved nature of the so-called American "elite," rather than pick fights with each other. How many random Trump or Sanders supporters do you know who systematically molest children and then pass them off to their wealthy and powerful friends for purposes of blackmail?

The Epstein case shines a gigantic spotlight on just how twisted and sociopathic the highest echelons of U.S. society have become. This is exactly what happens when you fail to put wealthy and powerful super predators behind bars. They get more brazen, they get more demented and, ultimately, they destroy the very fabric that holds society together. We are in fact ruled by monsters.

Unfortunately, by being short-sighted, by fighting amongst ourselves, and by taking the easy route of punching down versus punching up, we allow such cretins to continue to rape and pillage what remains of our civilization.

If we can truly get to the bottom of exactly what Epstein was up to, I suspect it has the potential to focus the general public (beyond a few seconds) on the true nature of what's really going on and what makes the world tick. Revelations of such a nature could provide the proverbial tipping point that's so desperately needed, but this is also why the odds of us actually getting the whole story is quite low. There's simply too much at stake for those calling the shots.

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Side note: I've been consistently updating my Epstein twitter thread as I learn new information. I suggest checking back in from time to time.

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Ali Tarpate , 23 minutes ago link

> ...f urthered the fiction that he was some kind of genius hedge-fund billionaire

He wasn't - he was set up by Mossad

Mossad Epstein Connection

Notice the Bronfman involvement...

giovanni_f , 32 minutes ago link

If we can truly get to the bottom of exactly what Epstein was up

1. We can't.
2. Epstein was in the business to set up people with kompromat material ...
3. ...and did it for someone else , it appears as he was protected from above for many years.
4. These " elses " won't allow that the support of the Americans to forever fight Israels wars gets shattered.
5. I expect operation diversion & coverup soon. My hunch is that they will pull a 9/11 hoax as a last resort if things get out of hand fast.
6. They did it in the past, they will do it in the future.
7. Human lives don't matter to them.

He–Mene Mox Mox , 35 minutes ago link

Michael Krieger said: "It's sad and mind-boggling how easy it is to divide and conquer the American public. Manipulating the masses in this country is trivial. The next few years will not be pretty".

Despite all the news of how the elites have manipulated the American public, it still goes on, unabated. Americans, for the most part, are dumb and fat couch potatoes. They are not going to rise up against their elite masters, because they don't have the wherewithal to do so. So, the show continues on, and the elites don't seem to have anything to worry about, and do as they will.

If Americans were truly energetic about reigning in the abuses of the elites, they would have done so back in the 1870's, when Mark Twain wrote about the Gilded Age Elites. Here it is, 149 years later, and nothing has changed in America today. The elites still rule, and everyone else is an indentured servant. Of course, there are benefits for the elites to keep the American masses dumbed down, and letting them lead couch potato life styles. Doing so, keeps them in power.

Give Me Some Truth , 14 minutes ago link

I suspect it was the CIA or FBI. But the goal was to keep Acosta from investigating Virginia Roberts' claims. If authorities did this they would have had to investigate Prince Andrew.

If they found her to be truthful, they might even have to arrest Prince Andrew (can you imagine this happening?). Or at least ask him to testify in a trial.

If the truth came out, this would humiliate the British nation, and Great Britain was (still is) one of America's most important allies in the "war on terror" and all our other neocon initiatives.

Acosta was essentially told to "back off" Prince Andrew (not necessarily Epstein, who was best buddies with "Andy.")

This doesn't mean Israel intelligence was not involved in some way. It just means that American intelligence was involved, or wanted to protect key people. Hell, they still do.

We can be almost certain that the exact same thing that happened with Acosta is happening right now. Some prosecutor is being told to "back off. Don't go here. Focus only on Epstein and Epstein only."

This is why Ghislaine Maxwell has not been charged and will not be charged. This is why the FBI has not raided Pedo Island or Pedo Ranch. This is why Epstein's four "co-accomplices" have not been charged.

Prosecutors have again been told that "intelligence" is saying that it's okay to do this (charge Epstein with sex crimes), but NOT okay to do this (investigate and arrest any fellow predators).

phillyla , 38 minutes ago link

It isn't just the elites and we need to stop pretending it is

"Child sex trafficking which is the buying and selling of women, young girls and boys for sex, some as young as 9 years old, has become big business in America. It is the fastest growing business in organized crime and the second-most-lucrative commodity traded illegally after drugs and guns.
Adults purchase children for sex at least 2.5 million times a year in the United States.
It's not just young girls who are vulnerable to these predators, either.
According to a 2016 investigative report, "boys make up about 36% of children caught up in the U.S. sex industry (about 60% are female and less than 5% are transgender males and females)."
Who buys a child for sex?
Otherwise, ordinary men from all walks of life. "They could be your co-worker, doctor, pastor or spouse."

https://www.groundzeromedia.org/7-17-19-apex-predator-den-of-vipers-heart-of-darkness-w-ed-Opperman/

Obamanism666 , 45 minutes ago link

If Epstein was muslin would this be a crime? Of course not it would be part of Muslim Culture. Look into the Abuse done to young girls in the Rotherham abuse case. BTW I am no sticking up for Epstein but the ruling elites and certain minorities are treated different from Joe and Jane Public

Give Me Some Truth , 53 minutes ago link

The headline for this story is great:

"The Epstein Case Is A Rare Opportunity To Focus "On The Depraved Nature Of America's Elite"

This IS a "rare opportunity' for Americans to do just this (focus on how deprived our elite leaders really are).

If Americans really started to do this, for an extended period of time, and got, you know, kind of pissed off about this state of affairs, we might even throw all the bums out. We might really "drain the swamp."

So this is a BIG story. Potentially.

Of course, the Powers that Be are going to do everything they can to make sure Americans do NOT focus on this story for too long. Or that the "narrative" is controlled. (For example by focusing only on Epstein, not his hundreds of depraved buddies and corrupt institutions).

Give Me Some Truth , 26 minutes ago link

I've been posting for 10 days that there are "too many" of these people. And they are too powerful.

Seems to me if authorities went after one of the "johns," they would have to go after ALL of the "Johns." And this includes Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton, former senators, governors, CEOs, secretaries of the treasury, bankers, etc.

It's the massive numbers of possible offenders that is probably keeping all of these people "safe."

And I still think Prince Andrew is the biggest fish the authorities don't want to humiliate/charge.

Even more so than Clinton. Half the country would throw a party if Clinton was charged. But in the UK, 90 percent of British citizens would be mortified and greatly embarrassed if one of their Princes was proven to have done all the things that have been alleged he did.

[Jul 24, 2019] I heard from a reputable British source that BoJo had a fling with Ghislane Maxwell, so there's your tie in. I agree that the Epstein Affair is the key to unlocking many mysteries.

Jul 24, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

O , Jul 23 2019 18:26 utc | 70

Posted by: Uncle Jon | Jul 23 2019 18:22 utc | 67

Note how just as the Epstein story was gaining steam, Trump easily pulled the spotlight back on himself through racist obnoxious tweets. Playing the role of the heel, much as he did when in actual pro wrestling and reality tv show.


O , Jul 23 2019 18:29 utc | 71

"In professional wrestling, a heel (also known as a rudo in lucha libre) is a wrestler who portrays a villain or a "bad guy" and acts as an antagonist[1][2][3] to the faces, who are the heroic protagonist or "good guy" characters. Not everything a heel wrestler does must be villainous: heels need only to be booed or jeered by the audience to be effective characters.

To gain heat (with boos and jeers from the audience), heels are often portrayed as behaving in an immoral manner by breaking rules or otherwise taking advantage of their opponents outside the bounds of the standards of the match. Others do not (or rarely) break rules, but instead exhibit unlikeable, appalling and deliberately offensive and demoralizing personality traits such as arrogance, cowardice or contempt for the audience. Many heels do both, cheating as well as behaving nastily."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heel_(professional_wrestling)

Maff , Jul 23 2019 19:00 utc | 81 O , Jul 23 2019 19:02 utc | 82
"In the 1980s, Boris Johnson volunteered in Kibbutz Kfar Hanassi in the Upper Galilee. Take that, Bernie Sanders. He has called himself a "Zionist" and said that Israel is a wonderful country which he loves."
https://www.jewishpress.com/news/global/uk/its-boris-johnson-with-66-calls-himself-zionist-criticized-disproportionate-gaza-bombings-2/2019/07/23/
Roy G , Jul 23 2019 19:04 utc | 83
Uncle Jon @67, I heard from a reputable British source that BoJo had a fling with Ghislane Maxwell, so there's your tie in. I agree that the Epstein Affair is the key to unlocking many mysteries.
O , Jul 23 2019 19:06 utc | 85
And as if the 'voters' had an actual choice between BoJo and Jeremy Hunt
"UK's Jeremy Hunt: Israel Is 'an Inspiration,' 'Beacon of Democracy'"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naLX3DBvrFg
Ort , Jul 23 2019 21:42 utc | 100
@ Sad Canuck | Jul 23 2019 19:28 utc | 87; @70 O

As a corollary to the professional politics/professional wrestling parallel, I offer this vintage (2010) "Onion Sports" article:

"Wrestling Fan's Comments Alternate Between Admitting It's Fake, Forgetting It's Fake"

I've been flogging this article intermittently for years without much positive feedback, but I still consider the "wrestling fan"'s perspective to be a perfect analogy to the way most US residents, including self-identified progressives and leftists who profess to be skeptical/cynical, regard electoral politics.

[Jul 24, 2019] The degradation of political elites is a universal phenomenon. Of course, first of all it is noticeable in relation to the Western elites (American, European), but this can also be found in the post-Soviet space

Jul 24, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

alaff , Jul 23 2019 20:00 utc | 90

The degradation of political elites is a universal phenomenon. Of course, first of all it is noticeable in relation to the Western elites (American, European), but this can also be found in the post-Soviet space (Georgia, Armenia, Moldova etc). Ukraine is generally a special case - real freaks and Nazis in power, the speaker of parliament with the mental retardation certificate, the Attorney General of the country (btw, previously convicted) without a legal education etc.

So I join and also express my condolences to the people of Great Britain.

O , Jul 23 2019 22:07 utc | 105

Posted by: Ort | Jul 23 2019 21:42 utc | 99

The entire world political class and most of the commentariat of the political class indulges in kayfabe.

"In professional wrestling, kayfabe /ˈkeɪfeɪb/ (also called work or worked) is the portrayal of staged events within the industry as "real" or "true", specifically the portrayal of competition, rivalries, and relationships between participants as being genuine and not of a staged or predetermined nature of any kind. The term kayfabe has evolved to also become a code word of sorts for maintaining this "reality" within the direct or indirect presence of the general public.[1]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayfabe

[Jul 24, 2019] Like his hero Winston Churchill, Boris Johnson believes history will treat him kindly because HE intends to write it."

Jul 24, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

karlof1 , Jul 23 2019 16:50 utc | 52

So, what options do the UK citizenry have until the next general election? IMO, Corbyn encapsulated it well in his two tweets :

"Boris Johnson has won the support of fewer than 100,000 unrepresentative Conservative Party members by promising tax cuts for the richest, presenting himself as the bankers' friend, and pushing for a damaging No Deal Brexit.

"But he hasn't won the support of our country."

And:

"Johnson's No Deal Brexit would mean job cuts, higher prices in the shops, and risk our NHS being sold off to US corporations in a sweetheart deal with Donald Trump.

"The people of our country should decide who becomes the Prime Minister in a General Election."

George Galloway on BoJo :

"In this sense Boris Johnson is a throwback to former times – not quite to the 19th century like his aide-de-camp Jacob Rees-Mogg but at least to the middle of the 20th century. On the face of it, Harold MacMillan, the then British PM, was a straight-laced, slightly eccentric upper-class Englishman. That his wife was upstairs in bed, for years, with one of his parliamentary colleagues Sir Robert Boothby didn't seem to faze him. Or us, but then we weren't to know about it.

"In deference to the new age, Boris Johnson has skipped the straight-laced bit; he has cuckolded his colleagues, even leaving cuckoos in their nests, has left a trail of lurid love-life stories to make a thriller-writer blush, and will likely bed down in Downing Street on Wednesday night with his 31 year-old girlfriend. But the rest is just the same. Johnson is (or has fashioned himself) as an upper-class English eccentric and will be hoping the deference is not dead amongst 21st century Britons.

"To be fair it should be said that Johnson is as colourful as his predecessor Mrs May was bloodless. He is clever and quick-witted (you get what you pay for at Eton), is well read and is a good writer too (he should be, he is Britain's most expensive newspaper columnist). Like his hero Winston Churchill, he believes history will treat him kindly because HE intends to write it."

George will soon be on RT's InQuestionRT as per his tweet at 5pm BST.


O , Jul 23 2019 17:43 utc | 59

The Anglo-Zionist have elevated another buffoon to entertain the masses. Trump was just the tip of the iceberg. It will not be long before President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho will soon be leading the global masses.

Didn't I hear something about Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson having presidential aspirations?

Uncle Jon , Jul 23 2019 18:22 utc | 68
b,

Boris Johnson's ascension to power in UK is just a clown act in a tragic circus. But a circus nonetheless. A none-story. A nothingburger.

I implore you to stay focused on Jeffery Epstein. That is the real story of our time. One that could bring down AIPAC/Israel and all of its' spies, the Clintons, Trump, and certain elements of the deep state once and for all, and free US from the shackles of Zionism.

Do not let this story die by way of side shows like the story above and etc.

By Phillip Giraldi from his article http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-agents-of-influence/

"It's a big job to uncover Israeli subversion, but somebody needs to start doing it."

Let it be you. We trust your reporting and I hope you don't take your eyes off the ball. Forget about BoJo, Russiagate (it is really Israelgate) and Ukraine. Epstein is the story of the ages. One that could change the realm forever.

[Jul 24, 2019] The world's "leadership class" really is bereft of any level of competence or standing: trump, boris, macon, ursula (and remaining eucom and IMF "leaders"), pompeo, bolton, pence, nitenyahoo,et al. and on and on.

Jul 24, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

Thomas , Jul 23 2019 15:06 utc | 25

It is starting to appear to be very much a contest of buffoons, which country has the more outrageous buffoon. At this point, it is a close race between the us and the uk but who is to judge.

The world's "leadership class" really is bereft of any level of competence or standing: trump, boris, macon, ursula (and remaining eucom and IMF "leaders"), pompeo, bolton, pence, nitenyahoo,et al. and on and on.

IMHO, Putin, lavrov, shoigu stand out head and shoulders above the aforementioned "leadership class."

jared , Jul 23 2019 15:24 utc | 30

@ Thomas | Jul 23 2019 15:06 utc | 25

That's because Putin and Xi (and some others) are in fact leaders, making rational decisions for the benefit of their nations.
Those others are just figureheads - ability is not so important as reliability and entertainment value.

Hoarsewhisperer , Jul 23 2019 15:33 utc | 34
It'll be interesting to see if BoJo can fake solemnity and diplomacy as convincingly as Trump can when in the company of other national leaders. I'm confident that Zelenski, being an actor, will be able to make it look easy.

There's a sort of precedent for this switch to comedy-based leadership.
I half-remember that when Ronnie Raygun offered himself as a candidate for POTUS, he answered the critics of his lack of experience by asserting that he had played many leadership roles during his movie career - making him the superior candidate.
And the sheeple bought it!

It seems that this is the dawn of a new "Anything's Possible" era.

Sad Canuck , Jul 23 2019 19:28 utc | 88
@70 O

Always thought professional wrestling provided a good analogy for our current situation. Trump and BoJo (and the nations they represent) do indeed represent classic "heels". In particular the USA is clearly now a "closet champion" or the "term for a heel in possession of a title belt who consistently dodges top flight competition and attempts to back down from challenges". What a world we inhabit.

[Jul 24, 2019] Something Governmental built-up that Orgy Island

Jul 24, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

fersur , 4 hours ago link

Something Governmental built-up that Orgy Island, if Not directly then known about, Epstein had just purchased nearby Great St. James Island, and nearby Dog Island is suspect, plus ( not very far away ) Water Island has an old Submarine base that has a underground/underwater Fort !

Mr. Kwikky , 4 hours ago link

that's where maxwell's Terramar project comes in as a front for mossad operations.

I ask Ghislaine about her vision moving ahead. What inspires her?

"On my first submarine dives (she is a certified submersibles pilot)
https://misadventuresmag.com/exploring-women-ghislaine-maxwell-ocean-citizen/

The Maxwell Manhattan property, which is close to Epstein's mansion, is owned by Lynn Forester de Rothschild , wife of the British financier Sir Evelyn Robert de Rothschild.

It is also listed as the base of the Terramar project

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/madam-maxwell-linked-to-film-stars-and-top-politicians-j2s00hdqp3c

daveeemc2 , 4 hours ago link

im not a morality attorney, and this guy if alligations are true, is a sick ****.

but my question is - if you are doing sick **** why leave a paper trail?

I just dont understand how someone with some money cant cover their tracks, go cash and avoid the trail completely?

Move it thru money changers and how would anyone be aware of illegal activity?

He might have someoney but he doesnt seem to have brains...

my new username , 4 hours ago link

Come on. He paid cash.

Give Me Some Truth , 4 hours ago link

Lots of payments to lots of girls had to be made over lots of years.

Any of these girls report this income? Did Epstein report it as "gifts" or as "payroll expenses" to these employees?

I'm no prosecutor, but I would think we should have dozens of charges involving "wire fraud" here.

Also, all of these girls were transported across state lines as part of a criminal enterprise. Isn't this a crime too?

VWAndy , 4 hours ago link

I wonder how they handled waste on the island. Couldnt see anything in the drone footage of it.

fersur , 4 hours ago link

Chum for fish and likely just dug holes for things like plastics, much like boats sort their trash !

Plus whatever is in Maintenance yard across from Giganic Generator Building used 600amps with huge exhaust vents and 6" water piping, that entire area was sea level some 20 Years ago ! Note 200amp runs any house and small businesses, whatever needed 600amps and built like a bomb shelter also vented a kiln of sorts or a massive incinerator !

whoopsing , 4 hours ago link

not sticking up for the guy , but 600 amps is easily eaten up in a maintenance facility for an island

fersur , 2 hours ago link

Agreed' But their are three 200amp intakes side by side on the building, how much power the Generator Building could output is unknown ( arial pictures ) because the wires are all underground and generator itself is unknown !

Their are Wild guesses about the maintenance building across from building with a generator system because it is massive, with pallets of Concrete Blocks on drive-on roof and about 150 foot above sea-level that was a beach some 20 years ago !

Robin D. Hood , 3 hours ago link

Some trucked off by barge in the beginning of first drone video. See 15 yard dump truck parked by barge at beginning. Another video that just surfaced shows 2 underground entrances and a dumps with fuel barrels, pallets and wood. Lot's of big bonfires I guess.

fersur , 2 hours ago link

Generator is housed in a new huge building with doors closed, only the conduit entrenceway is visible Three side by side at no less than 200amp each go to building equipped with 6" plumbing lines!?!

I can only explain by having you watch excellent videos on YouTube so ignore if it's outside your interest!

Go to We The People Insider [Be Ready] 6.3k views Streamed a day ago ( todays Video has a little more ) and In The Matrixxx [Be Ready] 5k Views Streamed a day ago ( todays video has a little more ) and find their Video explanations !

I myself 100% believe every word from Both sources, you must decide for yourself!

And 'In the Pursuit of Truth' "Child Mind" 79k views since yesterday and "Be Ready" 68k views 17 hours ago ! Excellent !

Dickweed Wang , 5 hours ago link

. . . but it is unclear whether the report was ever filed with the Treasury Department's financial-crimes division.

Unclear?? What a load of ******* ********. Of course it was never filed. That's because a Stein was involved and he was part of the gang. This info would never have seen the light of day if the creep wasn't busted again and the only reason we're seeing it now is a cover your *** move on the part of DoucheBag.

[Jul 24, 2019] Deutsche Bank Flagged Jeffrey Epstein Overseas Transactions For Suspected Sex-Trafficking

Jul 24, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Deutsche Bank Flagged Jeffrey Epstein Overseas Transactions For Suspected Sex-Trafficking

by Tyler Durden Tue, 07/23/2019 - 18:00 0 SHARES

Deutsche Bank uncovered suspicious transactions in which Jeffrey Epstein moved money out of the United States, according to the New York Times .

The bank reported the transactions to a federal agency in charge of policing financial crimes after the bank began to look for signs that Epstein was using his funds for sex trafficking , according to the report.

Epstein is said to have moved his moey to Deutsche Bank's private-banking division after JP Morgan Chase cut ties with himn in 2013, five years after he pleaded guilty to state prostitution charges - one of which involved a minor.

Deutsche Bank executives are still trying to understand the depth and scope of the bank's relationship with Mr. Epstein, who has been a client of its private-banking division since at least 2013 -- years after his conduct became public in a prostitution case involving a teenage girl.

Deutsche Bank has been contacted by prosecutors and other government authorities investigating Mr. Epstein. Joerg Eigendorf, a Deutsche Bank spokesman, said the bank was "absolutely committed to cooperating with all relevant authorities." - New York Times

Following a series of investigative reports by the Miami Herald earlier this year, Deutsche Bank followed suit, severing ties with the wealthy financier. Doing so proved difficult for the bank, as its antiquated systems. " On a number of occasions, Deutsche Bank executives had thought they had shut down all of Mr. Epstein's accounts , only to learn that there were others that they had not previously been aware of," according to the Times . By late spring, there were still transactions occurring in Epstein's Deutsche Bank accounts, however company officials now believe they have closed them all down.

Epstein, who is currently sitting in a Manhattan jail cell pending trial, has been accused of operating a sex-trafficking ring involving dozens of victims - some as young as 14.

He has a byzantine network of businesses and personal holdings, which include real estate, an island and private planes valued at more than $500 million. - New York Times

Deutsche Bank first flagged Epstein's accounts in 2015 and 2016 , after anti-money laundering compliance officers in the bank's New York and Jacksonville, FL offices raised a wide spectrum of concerns over the bank's relationship with the financier.

The employees were concerned that the bank's reputation could be harmed if it became public that Mr. Epstein was a client, according to the people familiar with the internal processes.

In addition, the compliance officers on at least one occasion noticed potentially illegal activity in one of Mr. Epstein's account s, including transactions in which money was moving outside the United States, the people said. The compliance officers produced a so-called suspicious activity report, but it is unclear whether the report was ever filed with the Treasury Department's financial-crimes division.

Despite the compliance officers' misgivings, the bank continued to do extensive business with Mr. Epstein. - New York Times

"We're still trying to get our arms around it," said a bank employee.


Mah_Authoritah , 2 hours ago link

Joerg Eigendorf, a Deutsche Bank spokesman, said the bank was "absolutely committed to cooperating with all relevant authorities." - New York Times

Translation:

We absolutely commit to assisting all relevant authorities in locating and destroying all incriminating evidence. ;)

JailBanksters , 2 hours ago link

So as measure of goodwill, Douche Bank are going to donate all of Epstein's fees, charges, Interest to a Charity.

NOT Bloody likely.

Yog Soggoth , 3 hours ago link

"Following a series of investigative reports by the Miami Herald earlier this year, Deutsche Bank followed suit, severing ties with the wealthy financier. Doing so proved difficult for the bank, as its antiquated systems. " On a number of occasions, Deutsche Bank executives had thought they had shut down all of Mr. Epstein's accounts , only to learn that there were others that they had not previously been aware of," according to the Times . By late spring, there were still transactions occurring in Epstein's Deutsche Bank accounts, however company officials now believe they have closed them all down." They had no investigative people working for them, and somehow did not read newspapers from Miami at the time. They also have, and always have had, antiquated systems even though they are a large bank. Who does this make sense to?

[Jul 23, 2019] The Royal Family s Disturbing Connection to Jeffrey Epstein by Madeleine Aggeler

Notable quotes:
"... In a suit filed in 2015, Virginia Roberts Giuffre claimed that in 1999, when she was 15 years old, Epstein's friend and alleged madam, Ghislaine Maxwell, approached Giuffre at her summer job at Mar-a-Lago, and offered the teen professional training in massages. Giuffre says she was then brought to Epstein's Palm Beach home, where she was repeatedly sexually abused by him, and that over the next few years, he "loaned her out to rich and influential men around the world," as the Guardian reported in 2015. ..."
"... Among these men, Prince Andrew, who Giuffre said she was forced to have sex with on three occasions while she was 17, once in London, at Maxwell's home, once in New York, and once on Epstein's private Caribbean island as part of an "orgy with numerous other under-aged girls." ..."
"... According to court filings submitted in 2015 as part of a long-running lawsuit challenging Epstein's plea deal, Giuffre said Epstein ordered her at the time to "give the prince whatever he required" and report back to him with details of the abuse after. Per the filing, obtained by the Guardian : ..."
"... "Epstein's purposes in 'lending' Jane Doe (along with other young girls) to such powerful people were to ingratiate himself with them for business, personal, political, and financial gain," the document alleged, "as well as to obtain potential blackmail information". ..."
"... Buckingham Palace strenuously denied the allegations after they were published in the Guardian , calling them "categorically untrue," and denying "any form of sexual contact or relationship" between the prince and Giuffre. ..."
"... Flight logs, however, appear to confirm that the prince was in the locations Giuffre claimed he was at the relevant times, the Telegraph reported in 2015. ..."
Jul 08, 2019 | www.thecut.com
@mmaggeler

Wealthy financier and convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein was arrested at an airport in New Jersey on Saturday for allegedly trafficking dozens of underage girls between 2002 and 2005. Epstein, who received a lenient and widely criticized plea deal for similar charges back in 2007, is extremely well-connected. His " little black book " included presidents Bill Clinton and Donald Trump, Richard Branson, Michael Bloomberg, Courtney Love, and 16 phone numbers for Britain's Prince Andrew (Queen Elizabeth's third child, and Prince Charles's younger brother). Prince Andrew and Epstein have been friends for a while, and, according to court documents, Epstein allegedly forced a teenage girl to have sex with him on three separate occasions, including during what she described as an orgy with other underage girls. Buckingham Palace has vehemently denied the allegations, but as Epstein is back under the spotlight, we're likely to hear more about the prince's relationship to him. Here's everything we know so far.

... ... ...

[Jul 23, 2019] Everything We Know About the Sex Crimes Case Against Jeffrey Epstein by Chas Danner and

Jul 23, 2019 | www.thecut.com

Matt Stieb

... ... ...

[Jul 23, 2019] the epstein case

Notable quotes:
"... According to multiple court filings reviewed by the Miami Herald , lawyers for one of Epstein's alleged victims have claimed that Epstein and Maxwell acted as the leaders of an "organized crime family" and that Maxwell helped traffic girls and women to powerful figures. Per the documents, Maxwell lured the alleged victims into the sex ring by offering them modeling, fashion, and educational opportunities. Furthermore, in 2009 depositions, two former house managers testified that Maxwell kept photos of young women in sexual acts. ..."
"... Maria Farmer, said in a sworn affidavit that Maxwell and Epstein sexually assaulted her in 1996 while she was working on an art project at the Ohio Mansion of L Brands CEO Les Wexner . ..."
"... Additionally, in 2017, a woman named Sarah Ransome alleged in a lawsuit that Maxwell and Epstein had threatened to physically hurt her or ruin her career were she to refuse to have sex with the pair's clients. Ransome withdrew the suit in December 2018 for reasons that were not made public ..."
"... Sanford L. Bohrer, the Miami Herald 's attorney , has urged the New York appeals court to prioritize unsealing the approximate 2,000 pages of documents related to the 2015 defamation case, as the allegations against Maxwell are "an issue of critical public concern." ..."
"... On July 2 of this year, though, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit ordered that some of the aforementioned sealed documents be unsealed. But, predictably, Maxwell would prefer that the 2,000-some documents remain sealed. ..."
Jul 12, 2019 | www.thecut.com

Updated July 12, 2019 What We Know About Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein's Alleged Madam By Amanda Arnold @aMandolinz

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[Jul 23, 2019] New lives of the girls in Prince Andrew sex claim row by Sam Greenhill and Daniel Bates

Jan 05, 2015 | dailymail.co.uk
New lives of the girls in Andrew sex claim row: Epstein's aides who refused to testify are now a pilot and a designer

By Sam Greenhill In Florida and Daniel Bates In New York For The Daily Mail

They were the glamorous Jeffrey Epstein aides who refused to testify about Prince Andrew's visits to the 'House of Sin'.

Sarah Kellen and Nadia Marchinova both pleaded their right to silence under the US Fifth Amendment when asked if the royal had sex with teenage girls – earning themselves the nickname the 'blondes who took the Fifth'.

Today, Epstein's former PA Miss Kellen and Miss Marchinova – his on-off girlfriend – have reinvented themselves as Sarah Kensington and Nadia Marcinko.

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Sarah Kensington - formerly Sarah Kellen - and her racing driver boyfriend Brian Vickers (left) and Nadia Marchinova, who is now Nadia Marcinko (right)

Miss Kensington, 34, is an interior designer who boasts of renovating corporate apartments in New York, the Caribbean and Paris – and dating a handsome racing car driver.

Miss Marcinko, 29, is a pilot and the chief executive of Aviloop, a company selling discounted flying lessons.

Intriguingly, they both operate from £1.5million addresses in a Manhattan building majority-owned by Mr Epstein's brother Mark. Neither woman seems keen to draw attention to their past work for the billionaire paedophile.

Both women were given immunity from prosecution in a controversial deal fixed by Epstein when he was jailed for soliciting prostitution from underage girls.

Miss Kellen was named as the chief fixer who travelled the world with Epstein and was accused by lawyers in legal filings of 'bringing girls to Epstein's mansion to be abused'.

Quizzed under oath, she had an opportunity to deny Andrew had sex at the £6million Florida mansion, dubbed the 'House of Sin', but chose to remain silent.

Citing the Fifth Amendment, Miss Marchinova also declined to say if she had sex with Andrew.

Since those scandal-engulfed days, both women have led dramatically different lives, a Mail investigation has discovered.

Both women were given immunity from prosecution in a controversial deal fixed by Epstein (left and right). He is said to have gone to huge efforts to cover-up his crimes, promising to 'look after' those who kept quiet +8 <img src="https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/08/2461C72500000578-0-image-a-12_1420680664559.jpg" height="910" width="634" alt="When quizzed under oath, Ms Kellen had an opportunity to deny Andrew (pictured left with Epstein) had sex at Epstein's £6million Florida mansion, dubbed the 'House of Sin', but chose to remain silent" />

When quizzed under oath, Ms Kellen had an opportunity to deny Andrew (pictured left with Epstein) had sex at Epstein's £6million Florida mansion, dubbed the 'House of Sin', but chose to remain silent

Buckingham Palace denies Prince Andrew sex case claim

Miss Kellen moved to Hawaii for a number of years where she married and took her husband's surname Bonk, before taking on her current identity. On her interior design website, sarahkensington.net, she describes being 'fortunate to say that I've been able to travel to many locations around the world, which in turn has broadened my designing skills'. She is in a relationship with a successful Nascar driver, stating on her website that 'most of my fans know that I am Brian Vickers' girlfriend'.

Slovakia-born Miss Marcinko's biography on the Aviloop website now states: 'Over the years, she has proven herself to be a distinguished entrepreneur'.

Virginia Roberts (pictured) claims in court she was forced to have sex with the Duke of York three times while underage"

Prince Andrew pictured in 2001 with Virginia Roberts. She is said to be planning a book about her life

She also penned an online blog under the name 'Gulfstream Girl' which more than 77,000 people 'liked', until the company Gulfstream objected and she changed it to 'Global Girl'.

She described how she started her flight training at Palm Beach Airport before accepting 'an offer from a friend' to obtain her Gulfstream II pilot rating.

Epstein, 61, is said to have gone to extraordinary efforts to cover-up his vile crimes, promising to 'look after' people who kept quiet.

His brother Mark told The Guardian newspaper he owned 'the majority of the units in the Manhattan building' and had never heard of the two women's companies.

The Duke (pictured) fiercely denies any sexual contact with underage girls, while Epstein's lawyer has described the claims as lies

He said Jeffrey did not own any of the units in the building, adding: 'They're rentals. The ones I own, I rent all of them out.'

It was also claimed yesterday that Epstein intimidated a pregnant journalist by asking where she was due to give birth.

British-born writer Vicky Ward was so afraid of the US financier that she had security put on the intensive care ward where her premature twins were being treated.

The Cambridge-educated journalist, 45, said he tried to 'control' her when he learned she was writing an in-depth article about him for Vanity Fair magazine in 2002.

Describing how Epstein 'spooked' her, she said he feared he was 'coming for my little ones' when he asked at which hospital she was giving birth.

The Duke fiercely denies any sexual contact with underage girls, while Epstein's lawyer has described the claims as lies.

[Jul 23, 2019] Jeffrey Epstein's Alleged Accomplices Where Are Sarah Kellen, Nadia Marcinkova, Adriana Ross Lesley Groff

Jul 23, 2019 | www.thedailybeast.com

Where Are Jeffrey Epstein's Alleged Accomplices Now?

When prosecutors gave Jeffrey Epstein a sweetheart plea deal in 2007, they agreed not to charge four women allegedly involved in recruiting dozens of underage girls for abuse.

Pilar Melendez

Reporter Updated 07.09.19 1:49PM ET / Published 07.09.19 4:41AM ET

Photo Illustration by The Daily Beast/Photos Getty/YouTube
For decades, financier Jeffrey Epstein allegedly abused dozens of underage girls in a sex-trafficking enterprise, according to a new federal indictment unsealed in the Southern District of New York.

But in order to successfully "create a vast network of underage victims for him to sexually exploit" and expand his network of possible targets, he relied on the loyalty and organizational skills of his employees, prosecutors claim.

According to the 14-page indictment filed in Manhattan federal court on Monday, the 66-year-old hedge-fund manager/convicted sex offender "worked and conspired with others, including employees and associates" to run a sex-trafficking enterprise between 2002 and 2005, preying on "dozens" of girls as young as 14 at his mansions in New York and Palm Beach, Florida.

During each encounter listed in the indictment -- which charges Epstein with one count of sex trafficking and one count of sex-trafficking conspiracy -- girls were taken to a room to perform "massages" nude or partially nude before Epstein would escalate the encounter to "include one or more sex acts."

"Epstein typically would also masturbate during these sexualized encounters, ask victims to touch him while he masturbated, and touch victims' genitals with his hands or with sex toys," the indictment states, adding the money man knew that the girls were minors.

After the assault, prosecutors allege, Epstein or his associates would pay each girl hundreds of dollars in cash and often would turn the victim into a recruiter of new girls to abuse.

"In this way, Epstein created a vast network of underage victims for him to sexually exploit," the indictment said. The indictment goes on to detail three anonymous victims and refers to three unnamed employees who allegedly assisted Epstein in the enterprise, including by making calls to arrange for "massages" for Epstein.

It's not the first time that Epstein's employees and associates have been accused of helping procure underage girls for his abuse.

In Epstein's controversial 2008 plea deal in Florida -- which was granted by then-prosecutor and now-Secretary of Labor Alexander Acosta and other DOJ attorneys, without informing the billionaire's alleged victims -- four women are named as possible accomplices. Epstein's non-prosecution agreement, which sentenced him to 18 months in prison, also granted immunity to the four women and any other "potential co-conspirators," identified in the document as "including but not limited to Sarah Kellen, Adriana Ross, Lesley Groff, or Nadia Marcinkova."

"While Epstein was at the head of the international sex trafficking organization, that conspiracy could not have functioned without many others playing their part," attorney Paul Cassell, who represents multiple victims of Epstein, told The Daily Beast after Epstein's arrest on Saturday . "Jane Doe 1 and 2 will continue to fight for all of Epstein's co-conspirators to be held accountable in New York, Florida, and anywhere else they committed crimes."

Details of Epstein's alleged trafficking in Monday's indictment mirror the accounts of scores of underage women in Florida, who described several "schedulers" who organized his alleged sex sessions and one young woman, described as Epstein's "sex slave," who would allegedly participate in the abuse while the billionaire watched.

But where are Epstein's alleged accomplices now?

Sarah Kellen

Sarah Kellen, Epstein's former assistant who allegedly kept a Rolodex of young girls to recruit for her employer, is now married to NASCAR driver Brian Vickers. Along with traveling with her husband, the 39-year-old (who also goes by the name Sarah Kensington) is the owner of an interior-design firm, SLK Designs .

"Sarah Kensington makes a living doing what she loves in life, interior design," a Facebook page connected to SLK Designs states . "She is the owner of SLK Designs LLC. and has studies at several schools including the University of Hawaii and New York School of Interior Design." The social-media page also details Sarah's interests, which include "fashion, photography, travel, delicious cuisine, and anything design related."

The page also notes that Sarah "is working with a number of clients on various projects including renovating several corporate apartments in New York, the Caribbean, and Paris. For the houses that Sarah manages, she does a number of duties which can involve organizing staff schedules, looking for and interviewing housekeepers and chefs, purchase and source items that are needed for the household (flatware, dishes, furniture, art, etc.), design floral arrangements, and interior design."

Epstein also owns homes in New York, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and Paris.

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According to public records , SLK Designs once operated from a building in Midtown Manhattan owned by Epstein's property-manager brother, Mark Epstein. The condominium listed to take SLK Designs deliveries, at 301 E. 66th St., is the same address where Epstein allegedly rented units to house models .

Though not directly named in Monday's indictment, Kellen has been accused in court documents related to the Florida case of booking the "massages," often calling girls to ensure they "were available for encounters" when Epstein would travel to Palm Beach. Several alleged victims in Florida told authorities they were led to and from the upstairs room in Epstein's mansion by a woman named Sarah, after she lined up the oils on his massage table. According to one police report , Kellen also warned the girls not to talk to authorities about the encounters.

Monday's indictment contains similar allegations about unnamed Epstein employees. "When a victim initially arrived at the Palm Beach Residence, she would be escorted to a room, sometimes by an employee of Epstein's, including, at times, two assistants who, as described herein, were also responsible for scheduling sexual encounters with minor victims," the Monday indictment states.

Kellen also reportedly traveled on Epstein's private plane with former President Bill Clinton on at least 11 flights between 2002 and 2003, according to flight logs published by Gawker in 2015 .

Kellen, who has properties in North Carolina, New York, and Miami Beach, did not respond to The Daily Beast's request for comment. A NASCAR spokesperson told The Daily Beast the organization does "not have a comment" about Kellen's alleged misconduct.

Nadia Marcinkova

Nadia Marcinkova, Epstein's alleged "sex slave" who was accused of participating in sexual encounters with underage girls, is now an FAA-certified commercial pilot and flight instructor. Marcinkova, 33, who was allegedly brought from the former Yugoslavia to live with Epstein, now goes by the named " Global Girl " on social media, and has changed her last name.

"Global Girl ( Nadia Marcinko ) spent many years in the international marketing and advertising world as an international fashion model and spokesperson, with clients including Chanel, Christian Dior, Valentino, Vogue and MTV. After many successful years in the modeling industry, she was ready for longer runways and became a licensed commercial pilot," her Facebook account states , adding that she is an "FAA certified flight instructor and Gulfstream II, III & IV pilot."

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Marcinkova also is the founder and CEO of Aviloop, a website selling discounted flying lessons and other deals related to aviation. Since 2011, Aviloop provides a slew of services, including designing custom pilot team and "organizing team building events." As with Kellen, the aviation company is registered at the building once owned by Mark Epstein and allegedly used as a model clubhouse by his brother.

Though Marcinkova originally started calling herself "Gulfstream Girl," she was sued in 2013 by Gulfstream Aerospace Corp. for trademark infringement. On Jan. 6, 2014, the lawsuit filed in a New York Southern District court was settled after Marcinko changed her online name to Global Girl.

According to written testimony by several alleged victims , Marcinkova is described as having "encouraged and engaged in sexual acts" with young girls while Epstein watched. According to police, Epstein told one victim Marcinkova was his "sex slave" and that he'd purchased her from her family in the former Yugoslavia when she was 15. Marcinkova is not directly named in Monday's indictment.

Marcinkova, who lives in New York, did not immediately respond to The Daily Beast's request for comment.

Adriana Ross

Adriana Ross, a former model from Poland who allegedly helped organize Epstein's predatory sessions, moved to Florida in 2002 and was hired to work at the financier's mansion. Ross, who often went by Adriana Mucinska and is not directly named in Monday's indictment, also frequently flew on Epstein's private jet alongside Bill Clinton , according to flight records.

Along with her fellow alleged co-conspirators, Ross was questioned in 2010 about whether Britain's Prince Andrew participated in Epstein's alleged sex enterprise. Refusing to answer questions about the inner workings of the alleged scheme, Ross repeatedly invoked her Fifth Amendment rights, according to previous reports . As previously reported by The Daily Beast, Ross also lived at the East 66th Street building in Manhattan.

Ross' current profession or address was not immediately clear and she could not be reached for comment.

Lesley Groff

Lesley Groff was another Epstein assistant who allegedly coordinated travel for young girls, often calling to schedule "massages." Though not directly named in Monday's indictment, the 51-year-old has been previously named as one of Epstein's three female assistants. According to a 2005 Chicago Tribune story about executive-assistant pay , Epstein divulged his assistants made about $200,000.

"They are an extension of my brain. Their intuition is something that I don't have," Epstein told the Tribune . According to public records, Groff currently lives in Connecticut and did not respond to The Daily Beast's request for comment.

[Jul 23, 2019] Meet Nadia Marcinkova, Star Girl of the Raunchiest Part of Epstein Scandal by John Carney

Jul 28, 2006 | dealbreaker.com

Without a doubt, the absolutely raunchiest part of the Epstein affadavit stars a mysterious young woman named "Nada Marcinkova." Lesbian strap-on raunchiness, ending in something that sounds to us a little bit like rape. We get all the details but no explanation of who Marcinkova is or what her relationship with Epstein was.

She's not one of his high school victims, and doesn't seem to have talked to the police. But it somehow seems fitting that this mysterious money manager to the billionaires would have an unknown Czech sex puppet lying around somewhere.

Gawker identified her in a NY Social Diary photo where Nadia (far left) is palling around with Epstein's pimp assistant Sarah Kellen (right).
Here she looks very respectable. Not at all like the "large rubber penis" wielding girl we know from the affadavit. Surely there's a more representative photo.

Of course there is. After the jump, check out Nadia looking a little more, uhm, severe, sexy and ready to get it on. And we'll throw in the raunchy portion of the affadavit below for your, uhm, reading pleasure.

[Note: Nadia, of course, couldn't be reached to confirm that this is her. But we're pretty sure it is.] Here's the relevant part of the affidavit.

[Annoying redacting ink blot covering up girl's name] advised that things escalated within the home as Epstein would instruct and pay [ink blot] to have intercourse with his female friend, Nada Marcinkova.

[Ink blot] explained the intercourse included strap on dildos, large rubber penis' [sic] and other devices that Epstein had at his disposal. Epstein would watch them have intercourse and masturbate himself. Occasionally, Epstein would then join in during the female on female intercourse and provide oral sex to both [ink blot] and Marcinkova.

This occured during the time [ink blot] was sixteen years of age.

[Ink blot] advised that this continued to escalate during two years. The routine became familiar to [ink blot]. Epstein's assistant Sarah [Kellen] would telephone her every time Epstein was in the Town of Palm Beach and would place appointments for her to visit and work for Epstein.

[... Ink blot] stated during one visit to Epstein's house in which she provided a massage to Epstein, his female friend, Nada Marcinkova, was also present. [Ink blot] provided the massage in which Marcinkova and her would fondle each others breasts and kiss for Epstein to enjoy. Towards the end of this massage, Epstein grabbed [ink blot] and turned her over onto her stomach on the massage table and forcible insterted his penis into her vagina.

[Ink blot] became upset over this. She said her head was being held against the table forcibly, as he continued to pump inside her. She screamed "No!" and Epstein stopped. She told him that she did not want to have his penis inside of her. Epstein did not ejaculate inside of her and apologized for his actions and subsequently paid her a thousand dollars for that visit.

[Ink blot] stated she knows he still displays her photographs throughout the house.

[Jul 23, 2019] Israel's Agents of Influence by Philip Giraldi

Notable quotes:
"... Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation (Federal ID Number #52-1739023) that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is ..."
"... You're overspecializing. Epstein, like all of the characters in the Mueller mess, is an international fixer and blackmailer. All of these dudes work for EVERY nation and mob at one time or another, and betray EVERY nation and mob at other times. Israel is just one of the nations that hire these creatures. The only difference is that the fixers are less likely to betray Israel. Mossad is more serious and competent than MI6 or CIA. ..."
"... I suggest that everyone half intelligent exercise some common sense when it comes to Epstein. Only an (anti-Israel) idiot believes that Epstein/Mossad were running blackmail operations for years with American intelligence cowed into turning a blind eye. ..."
"... While it will certainly be a hard row to hoe due to many factors, not the least of which is that the Zionists have taken the long-view on many matters and this approach has given them the upper hand, it is imperative for the prosperity and well-being of the non-Zionist U.S. citizens. ..."
"... By the way, amid all this Maxwell=Mossad business, both Maxwell and Trump procured their opulent yachting yachts from the Khashoggi brothers. And Khashoggi, whoever else he works for, is a big skin on the wall at CIA... ..."
Jul 23, 2019 | www.unz.com

Some journalists in the Jewish media are starting to complain that President Donald Trump is "loving Israel" just a little too much since he keeps citing his concern for the Jewish state as the driving force behind some of his erratic behavior. It is a viewpoint that I most definitely share, though I would describe the apparent White House lovefest with the Israel as a "lot too much." When the President of the United States calls a congresswoman an anti-Semite and demands that she apologize to him personally and also to Israel it is definitely a lot too much.

So Israel is always in the news, or so it seems, though it is often not in the news when the story might be derogatory. The story disappears from sight as soon as it is determined that Israel might be involved, as is currently the case with Jeffrey Epstein, or Israeli activity is excised completely as was the case with the Mueller investigation where Russiagate should have really been called Israelgate as it was Israel that was seeking favors from the incoming Trump Administration, not Russia. As Noam Chomsky put it , Israeli interference in American politics "vastly overwhelms" anything Russia has done.

I have recently written about how the Jewish state works hard to brainwash the American people and limit the foreign policy options of the U.S. government, to include aggressive efforts to obtain what the intelligence agencies would call "agents of influence." Agents of influence live and work in one country while simultaneously and treacherously advancing the interests of another nation. It is what George Washington warned about in his Farewell Address when he counseled "Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government."

Foreign influence as a potential national security threat is also a status defined in legal terms by the Foreign Agents Registration Act of 1938 (FARA), which requires anyone working on behalf of a foreign government to register and make transparent sources of income.

Uniquely, no foundation or individual working in America to advance the interests of the Jewish state has ever been required to register under FARA even though many, like the odious American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), boast unambiguously on their websites that they are "America's pro-Israel Lobby." Many of the foundations are regarded as educational or charitable 501(c)3 tax exempt non-profits, which means the U.S. taxpayer is helping support their activity. But being a non-profit charity does not necessarily mean austerity, as the salaries of top employees are generous. Canadian Jew Mark Dubowitz of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies (FDD), a 501(c)3, is paid $560,000 in salary and benefits. FDD has for many years been calling for war against Iran.

The most recent foundation being set up by Israel's friends to promote the interests of the Jewish state is the Edmund Burke Foundation, which hosted a conference on "Nationalism" last week. The conference was interesting in that the Burke Foundation is headed by an Israeli and an American Jew who has served as Executive Director of the Christians United For Israel (CUFI). The event was held at the Washington D.C. Ritz-Carlton, suggesting that the Burkeans are not short of cash. Pro-Israel groups always seem to have plenty of Benjamins.

A number of traditional conservatives and even some organizations were fooled by the promotional material and speakers' list into thinking that the program was legitimate and would focus on supporting national interests as well as foreign policy restraint, but some at least had their eyes opened when John Bolton, as featured speaker, was vigorously applauded by at least half of the audience .

Some potential critics of the agenda were not invited or even deliberately denied tickets to limit dissent, and several attendees were appalled by what they had witnessed, which was essentially an affirmation of status quo foreign policy, to the benefit of the hawks in Washington and Israel. Inevitably, some delusional dimwits were unable to understand that they were being used and were oddly entranced by what they were seeing and hearing . And don't worry if you are among those who missed the event. It will probably be replayed in a few months under a different name and with a slightly different cast of characters.

The most visible Israeli tool for generating contacts with Americans that might prove useful is the all- expenses-paid VIP junkets that are arranged for Congressmen. New Congressmen routinely travel to Israel for a dog-and-pony show within months of their taking office. One of Congress's leading cheerleaders for Israel, Maryland's Steny Hoyer has visited the Jewish state many times and can be relied on to pressure freshman congressmen to make the trip. Other Americans who might be influential in the future are also feted by the Israeli hospitality machine. American military cadets from the service academies and colleges are now being brought to Israel to learn a fictional version of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Undoubtedly, some of them are set up for intelligence approaches after they are commissioned.

Which brings us to the pedophile Jeffrey Epstein story and how it is being handled by government and covered in the media since the story exploded two weeks ago. No one outside the alternative media seems to be interested in the possibility, or rather likelihood, that Epstein was working for a foreign intelligence service, which would most likely be Israel. In the media the Epstein story died almost immediately, submerged in the tale of Donald Trump telling several congresswomen to go back where they came from.

It is unlikely that the spying aspect of Epstein's alleged crimes will even be investigated both because it involves the Jewish state and also becomes it appears to include participation by leading politicians from both parties and other public figures. The Deep State will make the story die, which just might also be what happens to Epstein in jail.

The evidence that Epstein was involved in intelligence work most likely bribing or blackmailing prominent individuals to act on behalf of Israel, derives both from the statement made by former U.S. Attorney for Miami Alexander Acosta that "I was told Epstein 'belonged to intelligence' and to leave it alone" and from other external evidence. Epstein was making videos of his guests having sex with his young girls, which is a version of a classic intelligence entrapment technique referred to as a "honey trap" that is employed by every major spy agency worldwide. And the Acosta quote – will it ever be fully investigated? Who told him that Epstein was "intelligence" and what were the circumstances?

Jeffrey's sources of income have also been questioned. Epstein's sole identified business connection was Ohio billionaire Les Wexner, who maintained very close ties to the upper echelons of the Israeli diplomatic and intelligence establishment . Epstein served as Wexner's trustee when the latter was forming the Mega Group, created by Wexner and Edgar Bronfman to generate positive views of Israel as a cover for Israeli propaganda dissemination in America.

Epstein's lack of an identifiable income stream rather suggests that he might have been supported by a government agency of some kind. He had hidden in his Manhattan house a great deal of cash, diamonds and an Austrian passport. The diamonds might have represented payment in kind from Israel, which is capital of the world diamond trade, and the existence of the passport is intriguing. It has been described in the media as "fake" but that can mean anything. The passport, dating from the 1980s, was apparently authentic with a photo of Epstein and a fake name inserted in it, but it might plausibly be the product of a government document forgery lab. Why Austria? Because Austria was at the time politically neutral and the passport would be a good one for traveling anywhere. It would be much preferred by spy agencies or by agents who wanted to travel anonymously.

That Epstein would be linked to Israel rather than to some other intelligence service is due to his relationship with Ghislaine Maxwell , whose father Robert, a Czech Jew who became a naturalized British citizen, was believed by C.I.A. and other intelligence services to be a long-time agent of Mossad. After he died under mysterious circumstances, he was given a state funeral in Israel that was attended by every current and former head of the Jewish state's intelligence service as well as by the country's prime minister Yitzhak Shamir. Ghislaine was reportedly Epstein's close friend and a procurer of his young girl victims.

As most of Israel's agents of influence are now on Martha's Vineyard where they gather in July and August, it would be wonderful to cut off all transportation and communication with the island and leave them there, but that would be unfair to the genuine year-round residents. Alternatively, I would be happy just to see Israel's dire influence over the United States exposed by the media and discussed in public fora by the more than 20 Democratic Party presidential wannabes. As that is not likely to happen, I would settle for a real honest-to-God investigation of Epstein and what he was doing coupled with a move by the Treasury and Justice departments against all the hundreds of pro-Israel groups that have never registered under FARA. It's a big job to uncover Israeli subversion, but somebody needs to start doing it.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation (Federal ID Number #52-1739023) that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected]


Mark James , says: July 23, 2019 at 5:43 am GMT

I would settle for a real honest-to-God investigation of Epstein

Dershowitz "would publish an online essay preemptively attacking Bruck's (Connie) unpublished article and accusing New Yorker editor David Remnick of ordering up a "hit piece" aimed at "silencing my defense of President Trump , Prime Minister Netanyahu , and the State of Israel ." (Remnick declined to comment.) Rice,NYM 7/19

Dersh' is claiming this forthcoming Bruck piece -in particular- will do permanent damage to his career. We can only hope it will be that effective. Yes, forces are out there trying to quash investigations.

I think there will be some significant efforts to do the job that many had badly fell short on. But there should be much more. Like 60 Mins and Frontline to name two. As for the prosecutors, that question has to be answered too. This is a very big story. As serious as the crimes against the young girls are, the Epstein case is about much more.

niteranger , says: July 23, 2019 at 6:24 am GMT
Are you kidding? The truth will never come out. You were supposedly a counterintelligence expert at the CIA? Epstein's links to Maxwell, Israel, the Mossad, MI5 and the USA's own CIA are so blatant that Acosta was told that he was part of the Intelligence Network and to leave him alone. All Jewish organizations (they do not have to register as lobbying groups) are nothing more that money launders for various illegal Jewish activities and form pathways for Jews to do anything they want in America.

Here's a speech by Pelosi at AIPAC 2019:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/KkLOmdiJpGU?feature=oembed

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JimDandy , says: July 23, 2019 at 6:46 am GMT
Yeah. Vanity Fair is reporting that some "prominent Republicans" believe that Epstein is a Mossad agent. And so it begins. The Narrative: the only people that believe THAT tinfoil hat blood libel about Epstein-Israel are the Nazi Alt-right-wingers. It's basically the Birthers all over again. Nothing to see here. Move along.
polistra , says: Website July 23, 2019 at 7:08 am GMT
You're overspecializing. Epstein, like all of the characters in the Mueller mess, is an international fixer and blackmailer. All of these dudes work for EVERY nation and mob at one time or another, and betray EVERY nation and mob at other times. Israel is just one of the nations that hire these creatures. The only difference is that the fixers are less likely to betray Israel. Mossad is more serious and competent than MI6 or CIA.
mark green , says: July 23, 2019 at 7:12 am GMT
Thank you, Philip Giraldi, for an important and insightful article.

Another major hurdle blocking a genuine investigation of Israeli influence and its highly-paid and deeply-embedded agents of influence, is that Israel just happens to have 'friends' at all levels of elite American media. Israelis and crypto-Israelis dominate America's Fourth Estate.

Pro-Israel infiltration of US news institutions, social media organs, search engines, and entertainment media cannot be overestimated. Yet it's ignored. Deliberately. Certain facts may not be noticed.

But it is a fact that hard-core Zionists own/manage/influence most American news and entertainment media; from Hollywood to Chicago to DC to NYC–and most everything in between.

In the rare instance when an independent news outlet does do its job and pursues a story that upsets organized Jewry, it is commonly met with threats of boycott (economic warfare) and/or Zionist-friendly lawsuits ('lawfare'). As Gilad Atzmon has noted (I paraphrase): 'Jewish power is the power to make unacceptable the close examination of Jewish power'.

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Germanicus , says: July 23, 2019 at 8:11 am GMT
Isn't the main problem double citizenship, the rotten US empire has enforced all over its vassal states?
You can't serve two masters, double citizenship has to be removed.
MLK , says: July 23, 2019 at 11:58 am GMT
Giraldi appears to be speaking truth to (Jewish) power but don't believe it.

It ain't coincidental that he's engaged in this distracting arm-waving, mentioning the previously obscure and notoriously unenforced FARA twice.

the DOJ National Security Division, intentionally never prosecuted for FARA violations because they used the appearance of FARA violations to get FISA electronic surveillance warrants against any DC entity they wanted to watch.

Link for a deep dive: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/07/21/bizarre-status-of-flynn-partner-trial-fara-prosecution-in-tenuous-disposition/

I suggest that everyone half intelligent exercise some common sense when it comes to Epstein. Only an (anti-Israel) idiot believes that Epstein/Mossad were running blackmail operations for years with American intelligence cowed into turning a blind eye.

It's positively depressing to see Giraldi, someone I thought honorable, deployed to distract attention from seditious filth like Brennan. Will Giraldi even mention his name anymore? I half expect Giraldi one of these days to tell us Brennan et. al. "were keeping us safe." Which is why Epstein and Mossad were molesting minors right under their honorable noses.

Am I the only one (mostly) noting the pitch perfect similarity of Epstein to the Dennis Hastert scandal 13 years ago?

lysias , says: July 23, 2019 at 12:25 pm GMT
@jeff stryker A nobody would not have been given such a sweetheart deal by the Department of Justice.
OEMIKITLOB , says: July 23, 2019 at 12:32 pm GMT
Mr. Giraldi,

I encourage you to continue to write pieces exposing the Israeli connection to much of what ails us here in the U.S. (and the rest of the world, too).

While it will certainly be a hard row to hoe due to many factors, not the least of which is that the Zionists have taken the long-view on many matters and this approach has given them the upper hand, it is imperative for the prosperity and well-being of the non-Zionist U.S. citizens.

As an aside, when I hear our rulers utter the phrase "National Security" I have to wonder which nations security they are referring to because it sure doesn't seem to be mine.

Malcolm Little , says: July 23, 2019 at 12:35 pm GMT
By the way, amid all this Maxwell=Mossad business, both Maxwell and Trump procured their opulent yachting yachts from the Khashoggi brothers. And Khashoggi, whoever else he works for, is a big skin on the wall at CIA...
Johnny Walker Read , says: July 23, 2019 at 12:39 pm GMT
...The below is well known info, the question is how long will America put up with it?
https://hshidayat.wordpress.com/2014/11/27/zionists-blackmail-and-control-america-the-americans-know-it/

[Jul 23, 2019] Aangirfan JEFFREY EPSTEIN, MOSSAD AND 9 11

Jul 23, 2019 | aanirfan.blogspot.com

Jeffrey Epstein's Nadia, who learnt to fly at the same Mossad-linked airfield as the Hebrew-speaking Mohamed Atta.

What links Jeffrey Epstein to 9 11 and to Mossad?

The mainstream media is so thoroughly controlled by Mossad and its friends that the general public is unlikely to find out.

Virginia Roberts became Jeffrey Epstein's sex slave in 1999.

Epstein's Black Book
lists a number of people whom Mossad and its friends may have wanted to blackmail and control prior to the events of 9 11 .

Jeffrey Epstein's girl Nadia Marcinko/Marcinkova (above) learned to fly at Florida's Lantana Airport at about the same time as the Hebrew-speaking Mohammad Atta, who is thought to have been a Mossad agent.

Mohamed Atta - 911Review.

[Jul 23, 2019] We Found Red Flags All Over Jeffrey Epstein's Jail Records

Jul 23, 2019 | www.thedailybeast.com

A FOIA of the Palm Beach Sheriff's Office work-release and visitor logs for the financier turned up some troubling inconsistencies.

Jeffrey Epstein 's lenient 2008 conviction for his sexual assaults on adolescent girls may be described as one of the greatest travesties of justice in recent history. Brad Edwards, an attorney for many of Epstein's victims, announced last week that Epstein continued to prey on young women while serving his sentence in Palm Beach. Unlike other sex offenders in Florida, Epstein had his own wing of the Palm Beach County jail and liberal work-release policies. Due to this new information, the Miami Herald reported, the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office (PBSO) has suddenly opened an internal-affairs investigation of Epstein's incarceration.

As part of my research on the Epstein case, I sent an FOIA request earlier this summer to the PBSO concerning Jeffrey Epstein (inmate No. W35755). I asked for two records: Work-Release List entries and the Visitor Information Log. Six days later, I received an email requesting that I phone to clarify my request. I thought this was strange because "Work-Release List" and "Visitor Information Log" are the exact names of documents that I already knew the PBSO maintained.

The officer I spoke to on the phone seemed reluctant to provide the records. He intimated that they were for an older inmate and probably not kept. When I pressed him, he then described the records as possibly hand-written and difficult to obtain. It seemed as if there might be no records, but then inexplicably, several days later, an email with three PDF attachments arrived in my inbox.

The Palm Beach Sheriff's Office sent me 149 pages of "Work Release" sign-in sheets in two "batches." Additionally, they returned a single-page Visitor Log. (However, I already had other Visitor Logs for Epstein from other sources, which suggests they did not release all the records to me.) Many of the Work Release forms were duplicates and not 149 separate records for each of his work-release days. If someone did not comb through each page carefully, they might falsely believe all the relevant records were provided.

Another document I obtained (separately from this FOIA) was of a fax sent by the PBSO (Media Relations division) that contained work-release sign-in/sign-out sheets for 10 days in July 2009, plus "Extra Duty" records for several days when Palm Beach Sheriff's officers provided private security for Jeffrey Epstein. The documents in this fax were not included in the response to my FOIA request.

In total, the records I assembled contained 77 actual days of Jeffrey Epstein's work release from October 2008 through July 2009. The top of the form identifies it as a "Work Release Log," the day of the week, and the date. Below is the name of the prisoner (Jeffrey Epstein) with his sign-out time (8 a.m. or 10 a.m.) and his sign-in time for when he returns from work. Both the sheriff's deputy and Epstein were required to sign separately each day when he left and when he returned.

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[Jul 23, 2019] Jeffrey Epstein scandal women with new identities run firms from Epstein-linked property US news> by Jon Swaine

Notable quotes:
"... Two women questioned about Prince Andrew in 2010, operating businesses from New York property years after appearing to have left Epstein's entourage ..."
"... Sarah Kellen and Nada Marcinkova, questioned by lawyers about whether Prince Andrew had any involvement in Epstein's abuse, have reinvented themselves as Sarah Kensington and Nadia Marcinko. Photograph: the guardian Two of Jeffrey Epstein's alleged accomplices are running businesses from a Manhattan property linked to the wealthy sex offender under new identities, years after appearing to have left his scandal-plagued entourage. ..."
"... Virginia Roberts, who has long claimed that she was Epstein's "sex slave", alleged in a US court filing last week that she was forced to have sexual relations with Andrew. The prince vehemently denies the allegation against him and is under intense pressure to fully account for his friendship with Epstein. ..."
"... Kellen was accused by lawyers in legal filings of "bringing girls to Epstein's mansion to be abused". According to police files, a series alleged victims of Epstein told investigators that they were led to a massage room in Epstein's mansion in Palm Beach, Florida, by a woman named Sarah. ..."
"... One alleged victim claimed to police that she was told Marcinkova had been bought from her parents in eastern Europe by Epstein when she was 15, according to detectives. One alleged that she was made to have sex with Marcinkova and to watch her have sex with Epstein. ..."
"... Sarah Kellen, now Kensington, with boyfriend Brian Vickers. Kellen was accused by lawyers in legal filings of 'bringing girls to Epstein's mansion to be abused'. ..."
"... Attorneys for Epstein did not respond to an email asking whether Epstein had assisted his former associates in any way in securing their new identities, establishing their businesses or in maintaining the property. ..."
"... Marcinkova and Kellen did not respond on Tuesday to telephone calls, voicemails, emails and text messages seeking comment. Attorneys who represented them when they were questioned in 2010 did not respond to queries about whether they still spoke for the women. ..."
Jan 07, 2015 | www.theguardian.com

Jeffrey Epstein scandal: women with new identities run firms from Epstein-linked property

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Two women questioned about Prince Andrew in 2010, operating businesses from New York property years after appearing to have left Epstein's entourage

Jon Swaine in New York

Sarah Kellen and Nada Marcinkova, questioned by lawyers about whether Prince Andrew had any involvement in Epstein's abuse, have reinvented themselves as Sarah Kensington and Nadia Marcinko. Photograph: the guardian Two of Jeffrey Epstein's alleged accomplices are running businesses from a Manhattan property linked to the wealthy sex offender under new identities, years after appearing to have left his scandal-plagued entourage.

Nada Marcinkova and Sarah Kellen, who were questioned by lawyers about whether Prince Andrew had any involvement in Epstein's abuse of underage girls, have since reinvented themselves as Nadia Marcinko and Sarah Kensington.

Marcinkova, 29, is now a pilot and the chief executive of Aviloop, a website selling discounted flying lessons and other deals related to aviation. Kellen, 34, states that she is the owner of SLK Designs, a renovations firm.

However according to public records, both businesses have operated from addresses in a building on East 66th Street in Manhattan majority-owned by Epstein's brother Mark, a wealthy property magnate. Two condominiums in the building sold last year for $2.5m and $1.85m.

Nada Marcinkova, left and Sarah Kellen, second from right. Via newyorksocialdiary.com Photograph: newyorksocialdiary.com

Marcinkova's company is officially registered with New York authorities at the building. Import records show that Kellen's company takes deliveries there.

Jeffrey Epstein , a friend of Andrew's who was jailed in 2008 for soliciting prostitution from a minor, was accused in 2011 court documents of using the building to house young women. Several rented condominiums in the building have been lived in by Epstein associates, according to public records.

Mark Epstein said in a brief telephone interview on Tuesday: "I own the majority of the units in the building, but I've never heard of those companies," referring to the firms run by Marcinkova and Kellen.

Virginia Roberts, who has long claimed that she was Epstein's "sex slave", alleged in a US court filing last week that she was forced to have sexual relations with Andrew. The prince vehemently denies the allegation against him and is under intense pressure to fully account for his friendship with Epstein.

Marcinkova and Kellen were among four named Epstein associates identified by US government prosecutors as "potential co-conspirators" who would avoid charges under the controversial plea deal Epstein struck in 2007, which saw him serve just over year in jail for his offences.

The two women both cited their right under the US constitution to avoid incriminating themselves when they were asked a series of questions by lawyers for alleged victims of Epstein under oath in 2010 – including whether underaged girls were forced to have sex with Andrew.

Kellen was accused by lawyers in legal filings of "bringing girls to Epstein's mansion to be abused". According to police files, a series alleged victims of Epstein told investigators that they were led to a massage room in Epstein's mansion in Palm Beach, Florida, by a woman named Sarah.

One alleged victim claimed to police that she was told Marcinkova had been bought from her parents in eastern Europe by Epstein when she was 15, according to detectives. One alleged that she was made to have sex with Marcinkova and to watch her have sex with Epstein.

Marcinkova's biography on the Aviloop website now states: "Over the years, she has proven herself to be a distinguished entrepreneur". In addition to carrying out international design work, Kellen is in a relationship with a successful Nascar driver, stating on her website that "most of my fans know that I am Brian Vickers' girlfriend".

Sarah Kellen, now Kensington, with boyfriend Brian Vickers. Kellen was accused by lawyers in legal filings of 'bringing girls to Epstein's mansion to be abused'.

The domains for both websites are registered through the same Arizona-based service that allows the identities and contact details of the website owner to be shielded from public view.

Attorneys for Epstein did not respond to an email asking whether Epstein had assisted his former associates in any way in securing their new identities, establishing their businesses or in maintaining the property.

Marcinkova and Kellen did not respond on Tuesday to telephone calls, voicemails, emails and text messages seeking comment. Attorneys who represented them when they were questioned in 2010 did not respond to queries about whether they still spoke for the women.

Mark Epstein said that his brother did not own any of the units in the building. Asked how it came to be that associates of his brother lived in the building, Mark Epstein said: "They're rentals. The ones I own, I rent all of them out." Asked whether he owned the units where associates of his brother lived or registered businesses, Mark Epstein said: "I don't know, and even if I knew, that's not information I'm giving you."

"I don't keep track, I've owned them for 20-something-odd years and I don't know," Mark Epstein said, when asked if he owned a unit that according to public records Kellen once used. "There's only a few people I know who live there, such as friends," he said.

[Jul 23, 2019] Jeffrey Epstein Private Investigator Michael Fisten Says He's Shared Names of Two Female Fixers With Feds by Barbie Latza Nadeau

Jul 23, 2019 | www.thedailybeast.com

Private investigator Michael Fisten first started digging into financier Jeffrey Epstein's alleged sex trafficking crimes more than a decade ago when attorney Brad Edwards hired him. After Epstein signed a non-prosecution deal with federal prosecutors in 2008, Edwards had sued Epstein in civil court on behalf of a number of alleged victims who had been blindsided by the plea deal (which a judge later ruled to have violated the Crime Victims' Rights Act ). Fisten was tasked with finding as much incriminating information on the financier as he could.

Fisten, a 30-year law enforcement veteran, said he was shocked and disgusted by what he uncovered. In a wide-ranging interview with CNN , the P.I. said that he was able to identify two young women who have arranged access to girls for Epstein in recent years. He and Edwards have handed over the names and "associated information" over to federal authorities, he said, though he did not name the alleged fixers to CNN.

Fisten also said that his investigations led to the discovery of countless lapses in security during the time Epstein was on work release from the Palm Beach county jail -- in a cushy deal that allowed the convicted sex offender out of confinement 12 hours a day, six days a week. On Friday, the Palm Beach sheriff's office announced that it had opened its own internal investigation into whether deputies, who often referred to Epstein as a "client" instead of an inmate in logs kept at the sheriff's office, had broken with procedure.

Fisten told CNN that he was angered that Epstein was allowed to go to a luxury office instead of remaining behind bars. Fisten said he was disgusted when he saw "lavish lunches being brought into the office and a parade of young females going in and out of the place."

The Palm Beach sheriff's office now admits that Epstein was also allowed to go to his luxury mansion and spend time there unsupervised.

Fisten tried to obtain the sheriff's office logs that should have documented the names and ages of everyone who came into contact with Epstein during work release, but the logs "have inexplicably vanished," he said to CNN.

"We wanted to get those logs so we could see who the girls were," Fisten said. "They're missing. No one knows where they are."

Fisten also repeated previous claims that Epstein wielded his power to silence his accusers during and after his incarceration, even hiring his own private investigators who were paid to harass his victims. "They were former Miami cops," Fisten told CNN. "He paid an extremely large retainer to them and all their job to do was to follow the girls around and intimidate them."

Fisten even ran into Epstein's private investigators first hand. Once, when driving one of Epstein's accusers home, he told CNN he saw one of Epstein's detectives parked across from her house filming her comings and goings. Fisten said the father of another of Epstein's accusers was "run off the road" by one of the former cops in Epstein's employ.

Of Epstein's alleged victims, Fisten noted, "Once these girls lost their braces and their pubescent look and started becoming 16-years old or 17-years old, they were too old for him."

"So then he started using them as recruiters to bring the younger girls."

Epstein was denied bail on Thursday as he faces federal sex trafficking charges in New York. Fisten says the victims finally feel that justice could be served. "They couldn't be happier," he told CNN. "It's all they ever wanted."

[Jul 23, 2019] Does anyone else think Jeffrey Epstein is Mossad conspiracy

Jul 23, 2019 | www.reddit.com

So rumors are now circulating that there will be a sordid if not downright horrific Epstein-Weiner-Clinton revelation in the coming days that will finally bring down the Clintons. Perhaps the powers behind the scenes have decided it's time to get rid of this toxic bitch.

Apropos to that, I've been looking into this Epstein character. His lawyer and best friend is Allan Dershowitz (Dersh, under suspicion himself, now claims they were never close, despite previous statements).

Epstein's black book contains the personal phone numbers of several former Israeli prime ministers.

When Epstein was arrested the rumor in NY was that he was going to flee to Israel.

The pre-scandal vanity fair article expresses puzzlement over how Epstein built his fortune (the "hedge fund manager" title may be a cover). A huge fortune it is: he lives in the most expensive apartment in NY -- eight floors.

J. Epstein Company was set up via a 1 billion grant from Victoria's Secret owner Leslie Wexner, who's father Harry Wexner (changed from Hagan Wexelstein) was a secretive billionaire.

Epstein's other partner in crime was Ghislane Maxwell, the daughter of a notorious Mossad agent named Robert Maxwell.

When Epstein was busted he was given the sweetheart deal of a lifetime.

Hidden cameras were found throughout his Florida home. Presumably hidden cameras were/are also present on the "lolita express" (on which Bill took two dozen flights) and "sin island."

The entranceway to his NY apartment is decorated with glass eyeballs -- an inside joke about the cameras behind the walls?

This seems pretty cut and dried to me: Epstein was recruited by Mossad to run a honey pot operation in order to ensnare and blackmail US and international elites. The bait was underage girls ("forbidden fruit") and possibly even children, given the frequent trips to Thailand etc.

Hillary Clinton should be barred from office on the grounds that she is blackmailable by the Israelis. We might as well be electing Netanyahu to the White House. Perhaps this is an open secret. Hillary's top five donors are Zionists.

Oddly, Epstein has claimed that he "helped found" the Clinton Foundation. Was he just bragging about his relationship with Bill? Or could the CF itself be involved in trafficking child sex slaves?


lone_geek 6 points 7 points 8 points 2 years ago (0 children)

He wouldn't have to be official Mossad to work for them.
See this: http://www.timesofisrael.com/hollywood-producer-arnon-milchan-reveals-mossad-past/
lone_geek 1 point 2 points 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)
Nenanyahu isn't all liked by his own intelligence services.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/second-ex-mossad-chief-joins-chorus-criticizing-netanyahu/
mracidglee 5 points 6 points 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)
Like lone_geek says - if he's not Mossad, he's part of something . I knew about the Wexner connection, but not Harry Wexner/Hagan Wexelstein (isn't that one of the villains in Frozen?).
lone_geek 3 points 4 points 5 points 2 years ago * (0 children)
See - Safari Club -- a 1974 group of multiple intelligence agencies formed after the Church Committee investigations. Formed specifically to bypass over-site / legal considerations from governments. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_Club -- You have a parallel intelligence service operating outside the knowledge of the official intelligence services. Now posit that this parallel intelligence service never shut down, they just went corporate. If you're a part of a company you could have company "offices" all over the globe, your travel would not be scrutinized, etc.
IanPhlegming 2 points 3 points 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)
Whether Mossad or something else, I'm on board with all you've written. Only question is WHO he was working for. The Ghislane Maxwell connection is telling, though.
lone_geek -1 points 0 points 1 point 2 years ago (0 children)
Right - however is Ghislane Maxwell working for the "official Mossad" or the "unofficial Mossad" -- or a shell company that works as a cut-out for either of the official or unofficial groups.
SourceZeroOne 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Exactly. I was just banned from another board today for posting the same thing.

Every single politician who spent time partying with Epstein should be removed from office. We have to assume that each one represents a security threat.

http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2015/01/13/u-s-politicians-on-video-with-underage-sex-slaves.html

DrDuplicitous 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Of course Epstein is Mossad. His madame, Ghislaine Maxwell, is the daughter of a Mossad Sayan and media magnate named Robert Maxwell.

Trump controlled by Mossad https://fitzinfo.wordpress.com/2016/10/29/trump-controlled-by-mossad/

pro_spiracy 0 points 1 point 2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Yes, I've thought Epstein, Monica Lewinsky, the new Congressman junkets to Israel, the israelis caught with foreign passports, are all Mossad gathering blackmail evidence to control our leaders. "Through deception thou shalt do war."

[Jul 22, 2019] The thing I find most intriguing about the Epstein affair is possibility that it provides a "hook" for the US intelligence community to really go after the Israeli lobby.

Notable quotes:
"... What Epstein has been up to is so obscene that it is now toxic to be associated with him. Everyone who claimed to be his friend are now running a mile from him. ..."
"... But what if it is revealed that he had created this cesspool at the direction of Israel i.e. that the main motivation for this honey-pot was to provide Israel with blackmail material. ..."
"... If that happened then a politician would run a mile at the mere sight of a lobby bag-man, because to be associated with them is to be tarred in a way that no amount of money could ever overcome. ..."
"... I am certain that there are still honest people in the US intelligence community, and I would bet very good money that they are looking very closely at this as a chance to stab the Israel lobby through the heart with a wooden stake. ..."
Jul 22, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

Yeah, Right , Jul 22 2019 10:55 utc | 118

The thing I find most intriguing about the Epstein affair is possibility that it provides a "hook" for the US intelligence community to really go after the Israeli lobby.

After all, going up against the *money* of the lobby is a forlorn hope - there is no way to fight them on that battlefield.

But this? No, this is different.

What Epstein has been up to is so obscene that it is now toxic to be associated with him. Everyone who claimed to be his friend are now running a mile from him.

But what if it is revealed that he had created this cesspool at the direction of Israel i.e. that the main motivation for this honey-pot was to provide Israel with blackmail material.

If that happened then a politician would run a mile at the mere sight of a lobby bag-man, because to be associated with them is to be tarred in a way that no amount of money could ever overcome.

I am certain that there are still honest people in the US intelligence community, and I would bet very good money that they are looking very closely at this as a chance to stab the Israel lobby through the heart with a wooden stake.

col from Oz , Jul 22 2019 13:54 utc | 146

Year right I have been saying for years that Epstein is a Mossad operation.

[Jul 22, 2019] Who Is Larry Visoski New Details On Jeffrey Epstein's Private Pilot And All The Famous Men Who Flew On The Lolita Express Yo

Jul 22, 2019 | www.yourtango.com

Jeffrey Epstein's Private Pilot Dishes On All The Famous Men Who Flew On The Lolita Express Photo: Getty Who Is Larry Visoski? New Details On Jeffrey Epstein's Private Pilot And All The Famous Men Who Flew On The Lolita Express Leah Scher Editor Entertainment And News July 21, 2019 He was Epstein's main pilot for the past two decades.

Meet Larry Visoski, the pilot of the Lolita Express, Jeffrey Epstein's private fleet of planes. For the past 20 years, Visoski (or Capt Big Dawg, as Instagram affectionately knows him) has flown Epstein around the world, including the trips that shuttled underage girls between his two mansions in New York and Palm Beach. Recently, photos of the luxury aircrafts' updated interior were released, bringing Visoski to prominence and shedding light on Epstein's jet-setting travels. What is there to know about this man? Who is Larry Visoski?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/embed/video/1968518.html

1. Visoski has shuttled celebs like President Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew, Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker

Most notably, Visoski flew Epstein's 50-year-old 727 jetliner, n icknamed the Lolita Express , which is worth $80M! The 727-31 aircraft, tag number N908JE, was repainted on the outside from it's early silver and black color. Today it's all white with thin stripes. Visoski still flies two of Epstein's private planes, as well as a helicopter. One Instagram friend of his asked how long he's been flying 727s and he replied, "Flying the three wholer (sic) about 14 years now, includes three times around the world, she's got the room!"

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2. The luxury aircraft, which was built in 1969, was modernized around 2014

The updated interior features a circular lounge with recessed lighting, comfy plush beige chairs , and a spacious bedroom with an open closet. In another room that looks like an office, an Apple laptop and iPad sit on a desk surrounded by red velvet chairs and a sofa. In the kitchen area, photos show a blender, coffee machine, sandwich grill, oven and microwave.

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RELATED: Inside The Bizarre Friendship Of Billionaire Lex Wexner And Pedophile Jeffrey Epstein

3. This aircraft has allegedly shuttled Epstein's underage victims

In 2015, Virginia Roberts filed a lawsuit against the billionaire claiming that he recruited her as a sex slave when she was 15. She says he sexually abused her for years on his private jet as well as in his various homes in New York, New Mexico, Florida, and the U.S. Virgin Islands. According to FAA records, the aircraft was registered to JEGE INC, Epstein's Delaware firm. As of 2018, the registration was still active. However, a more recent report showed that Epstein sold the aircraft weeks before his July 6 arrest. Visoski has not been accused of any role in Epstein's crimes.

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4. The 727 is often referred to as a "three holer" because of its three engines clustered around the tail

The aircraft's full name is actually Boeing 727. It's a narrow, three-engined vehicle built by Boeing Commercial Airplanes from the early 1960s to 1980s. A combination of comments made and photos taken by Visoski show repeated trips to many locations between 2014 and 2019, such as: St. Thomas in the U.S. Virgin Islands; the Exuma chain and Eleuthera in the Bahamas; St. Bart's in the Caribbean; Seattle, Washington; Manhattan Beach, California; Paris, France; Germany; San Juan, Puerto Rico; Albuquerque, New Mexico; and Cabo San Lucas in Mexico. The Washington Examiner also notes a trip to Dubai and Abu Dhabi that isn't photographed.

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RELATED : Model Says She Hit Pedophile Jeffrey Epstein With Vibrator To Keep Him From Raping Her

5. Visoski, an avid photographer, used a GoPro to capture some shots of the aircraft

In addition to the Boeing 757, some of Visoski's now deleted Instagram captions specifically mention a Gulfstream 550 and a Bell 430 helicopter. According to the Washington Examiner , the post that (likely) spurred Visoski to delete his Instagram account was a selfie he posted in late 2016, with then-top Trump presidential transition team member and now counselor to the president Kellyanne Conway, at Palm Beach International Airport, which drew attention on Twitter earlier this week. Some of his captions included #MAGA hashtags. He described Conway as "a very Humble and gracious Lady, #kellyanneconway #kellyanne #trump #election2016."

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6. Epstein was deemed a flight risk by a federal judge (pun intended).

The federal judge presiding over Epstein's case denied him bail, agreeing with prosecutors that "the seriousness of his crimes, his mysterious wealth, international travel, and possession of a foreign passport with a fake name from the 1980s make him a threat to the community."

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RELATED: Jennifer Aaroz Claims Jeffrey Epstein Raped Her When She Was 15 -- Here's Her Story

What do you think? Is Visoski is totally innocent? Did he who he was shuttling? He was definitely complicit -- but should he face consequences? Leave your thoughts in the comments!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/embed/video/1965894.html

Leah Scher is an ENFP finishing her degree at Brandeis University. She's an alumna of the Kenyon Review Young Writer's Workshop the Iowa Young Writers' Studio. She's passionate about Judaism, poetry, film, satire, astrology, spirituality, and sexual health.

[Jul 21, 2019] Bill Clinton was one of the most famous and frequent passengers on Epstein s Lolita Express and a guest on his private island

Notable quotes:
"... The **** smell of all of this is simply overwhelming. He is not just a pedophile. He was and probably still is a Mossad agent whose purpose it was to entrap mainly US politicians and power bookers with the extremely compromising film evidence he was later found to be obtaining from the various elite junkets to his little island. ..."
Feb 23, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Implied Violins , 2 hours ago link

Just posting this for posterity, as I've seen this information before:

"Bill Clinton was one of the most famous and frequent passengers on Epstein's "Lolita Express" and a guest on his private island. When Roberts asked Epstein about Clinton's presence on the island, he simply laughed it off, and said, "Well, he owes me a favour."[37] Epstein also donated money to the Clinton Foundation even after his conviction. In early 2015, a photo emerged showing Ghislaine Maxwell at the wedding of Chelsea Clinton to Jewish investment banker Marc Mezvinsky in July 2010.

An annotated copy of the address book turned up in court proceedings after Epstein's former house manager Alfredo Rodriguez tried to sell it in 2009. Rodriguez characterized it as containing the "Holy Grail" or "Golden Nugget" to unraveling Epstein's child-sex network."[38] The book, which was eventually obtained by the FBI, listed well-known political figures such as Prince Bandar of Saudi Arabia, Tony Blair, Senator Edward Kennedy, and Henry Kissinger, Ehud Barak, John Kerry, David Rockefeller and even Donald Trump."

http://www.conspiracyschool.com/blog/kompromat-trump-hollywood-sex-parties-and-russian-oligarchs-part-i

So...Kraft goes down, and there are supposedly even more "interesting" names on the list of those who were serviced by those toothless asian whores. Could this be part of some unreal blackmail scheme against Trump?? Or is this **** TRUE, and we have a pedophile in our highest office??

I don't know what the truth is any more. Maybe someone smarter than me can make sense of this ****. I sure can't.

navy62802 , 5 hours ago link

Don't get your hopes up. This guy is an operative of the Secret Team. He will never be held to justice. Neither will his associates.

navy62802 , 5 hours ago link

By "associates" I really mean those he compromised in the course of his operation.

MadHatt , 5 hours ago link

https://www.foxnews.com/us/billionaire-sex-offender-epstein-once-claimed-he-co-founded-clinton-foundation

FBaggins , 4 hours ago link

The **** smell of all of this is simply overwhelming. He is not just a pedophile. He was and probably still is a Mossad agent whose purpose it was to entrap mainly US politicians and power bookers with the extremely compromising film evidence he was later found to be obtaining from the various elite junkets to his little island.

He and his Israeli handlers simply have too much on too many people for Epstein to really pay for any of his crimes, which crimes many spy agencies around the world engage in frequently. However, what should really piss Americans off is that Epstein was doing his dirt mainly against Americans for Israel, and Israel was supposed to be a trusted friend and ally of the US, working in close concert with US spy agencies and forces in destroying nations like Iraq and Syria and pulling off false flag operations like 9/11.

Treason Season , 2 hours ago link

Mossad + Mayfia = 9/11

[Jul 21, 2019] I've Had Many Strange Experiences In My Life - Inside Epstein's 'Honey Trap' On E 71st Street

Notable quotes:
"... The golden boy of Manhattan and Palm Beach society now sits in a grim jail cell accused of having sex with underage girls. He's been doing this in plain view since the early 1990's but, until recently, he seemed bullet-proof. ..."
"... More important than indelicacy, as an old observer of intelligence affairs, to me this offer reeked of ye old honey trap , a tactic to ensnare and blackmail people that was old when Babylon was young. A discreet room with massage table, lubricants and, no doubt, cameras stood ready off the main lobby . ..."
"... Besides sexual frolics, Epstein and Maxwell were up to many odd things. The FBI found diamonds, cash and a fake passport when raiding his mansion and documents showing his net worth at $559,120,954.00. The IRS tax people will be eager to review the sources of this income. ..."
"... It seems likely that political influence was brought to bear on then US attorney Alexander Acosta (he just resigned under fire last week) to make a sweetheart deal with Epstein, who had been charged by Florida with child molestation. Epstein got off with a token, 13-month jail sentence that allowed him to work from his office much of the day. ..."
"... Were Trump or Clinton involved? How much did they "party" with Epstein and revel in his fleshmart? There was talk of some sort of "intelligence" angle to the affaire Epstein that spared him a harsh sentence. ..."
"... A respected former CIA official, Phil Giraldi has come right out and accused Epstein of being an Israeli agent of influence. ..."
"... To Giraldi and this writer, the Epstein "massage" operation was a classic intelligence operation designed to blackmail men of influence into doing Israel's bidding. Clinton had reportedly already fallen into this trap years earlier while still president. ..."
"... Trump is a Mafia punk, protege of Roy Cohn, dead of AIDS in 1986. Only the brain dead would believe Trump is the lamb in this orgy. As for Epstein being a Mossad asset, probably. As for the CIA & NSA not knowing, absolutely impossible! This operation was most probably overseen, if not created, by the CIA, with NSA help, and tit bits handed to Mossad for European and ME operations. ..."
"... Trump was likely warned about Epstein by his mobster mentors/friends from the start. No doubt Trump did tell his buddy Epstein to keep that **** out of his properties, who wouldn't? ..."
"... Clinton knew as well but never gave a crap because He and HRC were probably protected CIA assets extending back to the AR drug smuggling days. ..."
"... Because it is a strange business, costing lots of money and achieving ..... what exactly? Ah ...., national security -- ain't that nice!! ..."
"... Anyone taking bets that Epstein will not live to tell all his tales? He probably has two years because he cannot be removed before all the excitement's died down but removed he will be. ..."
Jul 21, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

"I've Had Many Strange Experiences In My Life" - Inside Epstein's 'Honey Trap' On E 71st Street

Authored by Eric Margolis via EricMargolis.com

I've had many strange experiences in my decades of covering intelligence affairs. These run from being invited to KGB HQ in Moscow, Chinese intelligence in Beijing, US intelligence in Virginia, Libyan intelligence in Tripoli, South African intelligence, and even Albanian intelligence in Tirana.

But none was odder than the day I was invited to lunch in New York City with the by now notorious figure Jeffrey Epstein. The golden boy of Manhattan and Palm Beach society now sits in a grim jail cell accused of having sex with underage girls. He's been doing this in plain view since the early 1990's but, until recently, he seemed bullet-proof.

​Soon after I walked into the entrance of Epstein's mansion on E 71st Street, said to be the city's largest private home, a butler asked me, "would you like an intimate massage, sir, by a pretty young girl?" This offer seemed so out of place and weird to me that I swiftly declined .

More important than indelicacy, as an old observer of intelligence affairs, to me this offer reeked of ye old honey trap , a tactic to ensnare and blackmail people that was old when Babylon was young. A discreet room with massage table, lubricants and, no doubt, cameras stood ready off the main lobby .

I had arrived with Canada's leading lady journalist who was then close to Epstein's sometime girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell and, it was said, procuress – something Maxwell denies. Bizarrely, Maxwell believed that I could get KGB Moscow Center to release satellite photos that showed the murder on his yacht of her father, the press baron Robert Maxwell, who was a well-known double agent for Israel and KGB, and a major criminal.

Also present was the self-promoting lawyer, Alan Dershowitz, who had saved the accused murderer Claus von Bulow, as well as a titan of the New York real estate industry (not Trump) and assorted bigwigs of the city's elite Jewish society. All sang the praises of Israel.

Epstein reportedly had ties to Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Britain's Prince Andrew and repeatedly flew them about in his private jet, aka "the Lolita Express." All guests deny any sexual activity. I turned down dinner with Prince Andrew.

Epstein's residence in Manhattan and Palm Beach, both of which I visited, were stocked with young female "masseuses." All were working class girls making big money in their spare time. I did not see any interactions between these girls and the guests.

Epstein and Maxwell became too big for their britches. They flaunted their sexual adventures and laughed at New York society. Everyone wondered about the source of Epstein's lavish income but no one knew its origins. He claimed to be an exclusive money manager for a group of secretive millionaires. But the only one identified was billionaire Leslie Wexner, the owner of L Brands and Victoria's Secret. Wexner denied any knowledge of Epstein's alleged crimes.

Besides sexual frolics, Epstein and Maxwell were up to many odd things. The FBI found diamonds, cash and a fake passport when raiding his mansion and documents showing his net worth at $559,120,954.00. The IRS tax people will be eager to review the sources of this income.

It seems likely that political influence was brought to bear on then US attorney Alexander Acosta (he just resigned under fire last week) to make a sweetheart deal with Epstein, who had been charged by Florida with child molestation. Epstein got off with a token, 13-month jail sentence that allowed him to work from his office much of the day.

Were Trump or Clinton involved? How much did they "party" with Epstein and revel in his fleshmart? There was talk of some sort of "intelligence" angle to the affaire Epstein that spared him a harsh sentence.

A respected former CIA official, Phil Giraldi has come right out and accused Epstein of being an Israeli agent of influence. Epstein was let off with a slap on the wrist on his first child abuse charge, says Giraldi, because of his powerful Israel connections.

To Giraldi and this writer, the Epstein "massage" operation was a classic intelligence operation designed to blackmail men of influence into doing Israel's bidding. Clinton had reportedly already fallen into this trap years earlier while still president.

Now watch this stinking pile of corruption be hurriedly covered up. Talk about draining the swamp.


ChaoKrungThep , 29 minutes ago link

Trump is a Mafia punk, protege of Roy Cohn, dead of AIDS in 1986. Only the brain dead would believe Trump is the lamb in this orgy. As for Epstein being a Mossad asset, probably. As for the CIA & NSA not knowing, absolutely impossible! This operation was most probably overseen, if not created, by the CIA, with NSA help, and tit bits handed to Mossad for European and ME operations.

Uh oh Speggeti-oh , 14 minutes ago link

Trump was likely warned about Epstein by his mobster mentors/friends from the start. No doubt Trump did tell his buddy Epstein to keep that **** out of his properties, who wouldn't? 'Don't **** where I eat'. Clinton knew as well but never gave a crap because He and HRC were probably protected CIA assets extending back to the AR drug smuggling days.

Yog Soggoth , 43 minutes ago link

'I've had many strange experiences in my decades of covering intelligence affairs." So have many is my answer.

uhland62 , 24 minutes ago link

Because it is a strange business, costing lots of money and achieving ..... what exactly? Ah ...., national security -- ain't that nice!!

Anyone taking bets that Epstein will not live to tell all his tales? He probably has two years because he cannot be removed before all the excitement's died down but removed he will be.

[Jul 21, 2019] Charge of epstein procuring underaged girls for sex

Notable quotes:
"... A court filing in a civil case in Florida last week included new allegations against Jeffrey E. Epstein, a businessman who pleaded guilty to soliciting prostitution, and two other high-profile men: a member of the British Royal family and an American lawyer. ..."
"... About the royal: Some of you may argue that if there was an encounter, the Prince may have been unaware of the girl's age. He has people . People who make arrangements for him. One can see how such a fellow might hear the same knock on the door that Neil Bush once heard. Perhaps, upon opening the door, his first reaction was something other than "May I see your ID, Miss?" ..."
"... On Saturday, Mr. Dershowitz said he "categorically and unequivocally" denied all of the allegations. He said he would file disbarment proceedings against the lawyers who filed the motion, Bradley J. Edwards, a lawyer in Florida, and Paul G. Cassell, a former federal judge and a law professor at the University of Utah. ..."
"... The full court filing was published on Mondoweiss a couple of days ago. We learn that the complainant, Jane Doe #3, was 15 years of age, and that she was recruited by an Epstein associate named Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of Robert Maxwell (the late news tycoon and known Mossad asset). The photo to the left shows the Prince with the girl who seems to have been Jane Doe #3. ..."
Mar 03, 2017 | cannonfire.blogspot.ca">
Underaged sex with Alan Dershowitz and Prince Andrew...and Bill Clinton...? (If the claims are true, Hillary is OVER.) Wow.

A court filing in a civil case in Florida last week included new allegations against Jeffrey E. Epstein, a businessman who pleaded guilty to soliciting prostitution, and two other high-profile men: a member of the British Royal family and an American lawyer.

The motion filed in United States District Court in the Southern District of Florida alleges that Mr. Epstein forced a teenage girl to have sexual relations with several men, including Prince Andrew, Queen Elizabeth's second son, and Alan M. Dershowitz, a professor emeritus at Harvard Law School. Both men have denied the allegations.

Jeffrey Epstein is not just a businessman. He's a billionaire, and he has already been convicted of soliciting underaged prostitution.

About the royal: Some of you may argue that if there was an encounter, the Prince may have been unaware of the girl's age. He has people . People who make arrangements for him. One can see how such a fellow might hear the same knock on the door that Neil Bush once heard. Perhaps, upon opening the door, his first reaction was something other than "May I see your ID, Miss?"

That scenario seems plausible. However, as we shall see, that scenario is not what has been alleged.

We will get to the Prince in a bit. For now, let's focus on Dershowitz.

On Saturday, Mr. Dershowitz said he "categorically and unequivocally" denied all of the allegations. He said he would file disbarment proceedings against the lawyers who filed the motion, Bradley J. Edwards, a lawyer in Florida, and Paul G. Cassell, a former federal judge and a law professor at the University of Utah.

"They are lying deliberately, and I will not stop until they're disbarred," Mr. Dershowitz said in a phone interview.

The very predictability of that furious reaction means that no lawyer would have filed such charges against Dershowitz frivolously. Cassell has an impressive resume. He's not a young go-getter out to make a name for himself.

I understand that there are a lot of women who have made iffy claims against famous people. But this case seems different. Epstein has already pled guilty. Moreover, Dershowitz was part of Epstein's legal team.

The full court filing was published on Mondoweiss a couple of days ago. We learn that the complainant, Jane Doe #3, was 15 years of age, and that she was recruited by an Epstein associate named Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of Robert Maxwell (the late news tycoon and known Mossad asset). The photo to the left shows the Prince with the girl who seems to have been Jane Doe #3. Allegedly, the shot was taken by Epstein. (Note: In what follows, the term NPA refers to non-prosecution agreement .)

Epstein then became enamored with Jane Doe #3, and with the assistance of Maxwell converted her into what is commonly referred to as a "sex slave." Epstein kept Jane Doe #3 as his sex slave from about 1999 through 2002, when she managed to escape to a foreign country and hide out from Epstein and his co-conspirators for years. From 1999 and 2002, Epstein frequently sexually abused Jane Doe #3, not only in West Palm Beach but also in New York, New Mexico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, in international airspace on Epstein's private planes, and elsewhere.

Epstein also sexually trafficked the then-minor Jane Doe, making her available for sex to politically-connected and financially-powerful people. Epstein's purposes in "lending" Jane Doe (along with other young girls) to such powerful people were to ingratiate himself with them for business, personal, political and financial gain, as well as to obtain potential blackmail information.

One such powerful individual that Epstein forced then-minor Jane Doe #3 to have sexual relations with was former Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz, a close friend of Epstein's and well-known defense attorney. Epstein required Jane Doe #3 to have sexual relations with Dershowiz on numerous occasions while she was a minor, not only in Flroida but also on private planes, in New York, New Mexico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands. In addition to being a participant in the abuse of Jane Doe #3 and other minors, Dershowitz was an eye-witness to the sexual abuse of many other minors by Epstein and several of Epstein's co-conspirators. Dershowitz would later play a significant role in negotiating the NPA on Esptein's behalf. Indeed, Dershowitz helped negotiate an agreement that provided immunity from federal prosecution in the Southern District of Florida not only to Epstein, but also to "any potential co-conspirators of Epstein." NPA at 5. Thus, Dershowitz helped negotiate an agreement with a provision that provided protection for himself against criminal prosecution in Florida for sexually abusing Jane Doe #3. Because this broad immunity would have been controversial if disclosed, Dershowitz (along with other memebers of Epstein's defense team) and the Government tried to keep the immunity provision secret from all of Epstein's victims and the general public, even though such secrecy violated the Crime Victims' Rights Act.

There's a third named participant in these doings, one Jean Luc Brunel, a close Epstein friend and a scout for various modelling agencies.
He would bring young girls (ranging from ages as young as twelve) to the United States for sexual purposes and farm them out to his friends, especially Epstein. Brunel would offer the girls "modeling" jobs. Many of the girls came from poor countries or impoverished backgrounds, and he lured them in with a promise of making good money.
The Government was well aware of Jane Doe #3 when it was negotiating the NPA, as it listed her as a victim in the attachment to the NPA. Moreover, even a rudimentary investigation of Jane Doe #3's relationship with Epstein would have revealed the fact that she had been trafficked throughout the United States and internationally for sexual purposes. Nonetheless, the Government secretly negotiated a non-prosecution agreement with Epstein precluding any Federal prosecution in the Southern District of Florida of Epstein and his co-conspirators. As with Jane Doe #1 and Jane Doe #2, the Government concealed the non-prosecution agreement from Jane Doe #3 -- all in violation of her rights under the CVRA -- to avoid Jane Doe #3 from raising powerful objections to the NPA that would have shed tremendous light on Epstein and other powerful individuals that would likely have prevented it from being conlcuded in the secretive manner in which it was.
The document also mentions a Jane Doe #4, an impoverished sixteen year old who was told that she could make $300 by giving a "massage" to an old man in Palm Beach.

This matter seems very serious. We have too many details, too many corroborating witnesses (in the form of four Jane Does). We have a photo. We have reports of the existence of many, many more photos. The hugger-mugger involving the NPA seems downright ghastly -- yet all too credible.

Frankly, I would not rule out the possibility that Epstein was working for an intelligence agency -- either Mossad or one of our own. The Maxwell connection points to Mossad.

This whole business has "honeytrap" written all over it.

The Clinton connection.

The Daily Mail discloses that one of Epstein's, er, protegees was a woman named Johanna Sjoberg. Since the story links her to Prince Andrew, it is tempting suppose that she is the aforementioned Jane Doe #3. However, British newspapers have named another young woman, Virginia Roberts.

Miss Sjoberg worked for Epstein for four years, often massaging him as he lay on a couch in his giant bathroom making phone calls to friends such as Bill Clinton and Cate Blanchett.

He kept a little black book, containing the numbers of all his masseuses by a phone in the bathroom, she said. She left after he started becoming 'more aggressive' in his demands that she 'do sexual things to him'.

She said she was aware that the girls recruited by Epstein and his acolytes were not paid just for massages but for 'sexual favours'.

Virginia Roberts revealed that as a 17-year-old 'erotic masseuse', she was flown by Epstein to London to meet Prince Andrew,

Miss Sjoberg said: 'I'm not surprised he was sending girls abroad. I just did not think they were so young.'

The Prince strongly denies any claim of impropriety, of course.

What about Epstein and Clinton? Obviously, there is nothing wrong in taking a man's phone call, even a call from someone like Epstein. However...

Bill Clinton was also named dozens of times in lawsuits against Epstein and was alleged to have flown on his private jet more than 10 times.

Flight logs in lawsuits detailed that between 2002 and 2005 the former US President traveled around the world courtesy of his friend and stopped at Epstein's Caribbean island Little St James where young girls were supposedly kept as sex slaves.

Clinton was deemed to be so close to Epstein that he was nearly deposed during the investigation into his paedophilia.

Before he was jailed Epstein's other acquaintances are said to have been former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak; former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson; and former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers.

Let's make the obvious point. If there is any evidence of wrongdoing against Bill Clinton, then Hillary's chances at the nomination are over . A candidacy can withstand many things, but a statutory rape scandal involving one's spouse? No.

More on the Clinton link here :

Over the years, the casually-dressed, globe-trotting financier, who was said to log more than 600 flying hours a year, has been linked with Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker and Manhattan-London society figure Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of the late media titan Robert Maxwell.

Epstein reportedly flew Tucker and Spacey to Africa on his private jet as part of a charitable endeavour. Clinton, meanwhile, flew on multiple occasions in the same plane to Epstein's private Caribbean island, Little St James, between 2002 and 2005 as he developed his philanthropic post-presidential career. It would later be alleged in court that Epstein organised orgies on that same private island in the US Virgin Islands.

Reports in the US media say many of the A-list names broke off any links with the former maths teacher after his arrest and conviction in 2008 of having sex with an underage girl whom he had solicited. His arrest followed an 11-month undercover investigation at a mansion in Florida's Palm Beach that Epstein owned.

In 2008, he pleaded guilty to a single charge of soliciting prostitution and was handed a 18-month jail sentence. He served 13 months in jail and was obliged to register as a sex offender. A 2011 report in the New York Post said that he celebrated his release from jail and his return to a property he maintains in New York – a 45,000-sq-foot eight-storey mansion on East 71st Street – with Prince Andrew.

The story goes on to give much useful information about Epstein's business dealings.

More here :

The financier, who was jailed for 18 months in 2008 after pleading guilty to solicitation for prostitution, kept a sickening stash of images on a computer seized at his Palm Beach mansion in 2006.

The six-year-old papers, seen by the Sunday People, state: "Some of the photographs in the defendant's possession were taken with hidden cameras set up in [Epstein's] home in Palm Beach.

"On the Day of his arrest, police found two hidden cameras and photographs of ­underage girls on a computer in the defendant's home.

"[He] may have taken lewd ­photographs of Jane Doe 102 with his hidden cameras and transported [them] to his other residences and elsewhere."

Court papers also allege that Maxwell presented nude pictures of her she had taken herself to Epstein as a birthday present.

They add that Roberts' claims that she was forced to tell Epstein all about her sexual encounters so he could use the information to "blackmail" the royal.

She further claims she was sex-trafficked to "many other powerful men, including numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a well known Prime Minister, and other world leaders".

And now let's play our game: Who was that Prime Minister?

To- neeeeee...! If that's you, you're gonna have to say so many rosaries that even the Virgin Mary will get sick of hearing your voice.

This scandal places our right-wing media in a bind. Obviously, the right-wingers will want to leap on anything that dirties the Clinton name. On the other hand, anything that reeks of Mossad involvement is untouchable.

[Jul 21, 2019] It s Going To Be Staggering Epstein Associates Prepare For Worst As Massive Document Dump Imminent

Notable quotes:
"... As the Jeffrey Epstein case continues to unfold, a laundry list of celebrities, business magnates and socialites who have flown anywhere near the registered sex offender's orbit are now tainted with pedo-polonium. Many of them, such as Bill Clinton, Ehud Barak , and Victoria's Secret boss Les Wexner have sought to distance themselves from Epstein and his activities - however their attempts have fallen on deaf ears considering their extensive ties to the pedophile. ..."
"... As Vanity Fair 's Gabriel Sherman notes, "The questions about Epstein are metastasizing much faster than they can be answered: Who knew what about Epstein's alleged abuse? How, and from whom, did Epstein get his supposed $500 million fortune? Why did Acosta grant Epstein an outrageously lenient non-prosecution agreement? (And what does it mean that Acosta was reportedly told Epstein " belonged to intelligence "?)" ..."
"... "There were other business associates of Mr. Epstein's who engaged in improper sexual misconduct at one or more of his homes. We do know that," adding " In due time the names are going to start coming out. " ..."
"... What's more, the US Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit will release of approximately 2,000 pages of documents, likely over the next several days, which may reveal sex crimes committed by "numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a well-known prime minister, and other world leaders," according to the court's three-judge panel. ..."
"... According to one source, Epstein had a steady stream of who's who's flowing into his Manhattan mansion, including Bill Gates, Larry Summers, and Steve Bannon . ..."
"... Please, please let it be Tony Blair, whenever he appeared on the TV he always got my Spidey-senses tingling just like that other POS Sir Jimmy Savile. ..."
"... WJClinton is in it a LOT. On pp.13, there's one with Clinton, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker, and two shown by initials... ..."
Jul 18, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

As the Jeffrey Epstein case continues to unfold, a laundry list of celebrities, business magnates and socialites who have flown anywhere near the registered sex offender's orbit are now tainted with pedo-polonium. Many of them, such as Bill Clinton, Ehud Barak , and Victoria's Secret boss Les Wexner have sought to distance themselves from Epstein and his activities - however their attempts have fallen on deaf ears considering their extensive ties to the pedophile.

As Vanity Fair 's Gabriel Sherman notes, "The questions about Epstein are metastasizing much faster than they can be answered: Who knew what about Epstein's alleged abuse? How, and from whom, did Epstein get his supposed $500 million fortune? Why did Acosta grant Epstein an outrageously lenient non-prosecution agreement? (And what does it mean that Acosta was reportedly told Epstein " belonged to intelligence "?)"

Also illuminating is a statement by attorney Brad Edwards, who said during a Wednesday press conference seated next to Epstein accuser Courtney Wild that "There were other business associates of Mr. Epstein's who engaged in improper sexual misconduct at one or more of his homes. We do know that," adding " In due time the names are going to start coming out. "

What's more, the US Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit will release of approximately 2,000 pages of documents, likely over the next several days, which may reveal sex crimes committed by "numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a well-known prime minister, and other world leaders," according to the court's three-judge panel.

The documents were filed during a civil defamation lawsuit brought by Epstein accuser Virginia Roberts Giuffre, a former Mar-a-Lago locker-room attendant, against Epstein's former girlfriend and alleged madam, Ghislaine Maxwell. "Nobody who was around Epstein a lot is going to have an easy time now. It's all going to come out," said Giuffre's lawyer David Boies. Another person involved with litigation against Epstein told me: "It's going to be staggering, the amount of names. It's going to be contagion numbers." - Vanity Fair

Other famous names associated with Epstein include LinkedIn cofounder Reid Hoffman , Elon Musk, and Mark Zuckerberg , who Musk introduced to the registered sex-offender. Zuckerberg spokesman told Vanity Fair "Mark met Epstein in passing one time at a dinner honoring scientists that was not organized by Epstein," adding "Mark did not communicate with Epstein again following the dinner."

Musk told the magazine "I don't recall introducing Epstein to anyone, as I don't know the guy well enough to do so, Epstein is obviously a creep and Zuckerberg is not a friend of mine. Several years ago, I was at his house in Manhattan for about 30 minutes in the middle of the afternoon with Talulah [Riley], as she was curious about meeting this strange person for a novel she was writing. We did not see anything inappropriate at all, apart from weird art. He tried repeatedly to get me to visit his island. I declined."

According to one source, Epstein had a steady stream of who's who's flowing into his Manhattan mansion, including Bill Gates, Larry Summers, and Steve Bannon .

"Jeffrey collected people. That's what he did," the source told Vanity Fair .

Thus far, the name most publicly associated with Epstein's alleged crimes is famed lawyer Alan Dershowitz, who's been waging a public battle with David Boies for years. In April, Boies's client Giuffre sued Dershowitz for defamation after Dershowitz called her a liar (a strategy similar to that of seven of Bill Cosby 's accusers ). In the days since the FBI arrested Epstein at Teterboro Airport a week and a half ago, Dershowitz has been going on television and dialing up friends and reporters to profess his innocence and label Giuffre and Boies liars. "I want everything to come out! I'm not afraid of anything because I did nothing wrong," Dershowitz told me on the afternoon of July 15.

He called me a minute after I had emailed him for comment. He said he'd been friends with Epstein since 1996, when they were introduced at a party on Martha's Vineyard by Lynn Forester de Rothschild. "She begged me to meet him. She told me, 'here's this smart academic.'" A few days later, Epstein invited Dershowitz to Les Wexner 's 59th birthday party at Wexner's mansion in New Albany, Ohio. "It's a tradition that Jeff invited the smartest person he met that year. He told them I was the smartest." They remained close for years.

Dershowitz strenuously denied ever participating in Epstein's underage sex ring and said he'd only been in Epstein's presence with his wife. "I got one massage!" he told me. "It was from a 50-year-old Russian woman named Olga. And I kept my shorts on. I didn't even like it. I'm not a massage guy." - Vanity Fair

DC on edge

"Epstein bragged about his contacts in Washington," said attorney David Boies.

According to the report, "One theory circulating among prominent Republicans is that Epstein was a Mossad agent. Another is that the George W. Bush White House directed Acosta not to prosecute Epstein to protect Prince Andrew on behalf of the British government."

"The royal family did everything they could to try and discredit the Prince Andrew stuff," said Boies. "When we tried to follow up with anything, we were stonewalled. We wanted to interview him, they were unwilling to do anything. "

And now we await those documents. Meanwhile, Epstein's bail hearing is scheduled for 11:30 a.m. on Thursday. remove Share link Copy Apparently Ghislaine Maxwell is a Mossad agent who is licensed to pilot Jet planes and even Submarines.

About 30 minutes in they begin to discuss Epstein, the Maxwell's, and Mossad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voWj44_w_3M


PhiPhi , 34 minutes ago link

"a well-known prime minister"

Please, please let it be Tony Blair, whenever he appeared on the TV he always got my Spidey-senses tingling just like that other POS Sir Jimmy Savile.

MontgomeryScott , 38 minutes ago link

I found and downloaded a pdf file which was part of the first trial. It's one year of the 'flight logs'.

WJClinton is in it a LOT. On pp.13, there's one with Clinton, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker, and two shown by initials...

My computer calls it 'epstien-flight-manifests.pdf'; sorry but I didn't save the link...

PhiPhi , 48 minutes ago link

How big of an event will be required to divert attention from this? What will it be? Terrorist attack, complete financial meltdown, assassination, war? I find it almost inconceivable that the full extent of the truth will come out or that justice will not only be done but seen to be done. This Epstein affair personifies all that is wrong in our societies (not just the USA).

frankly scarlet , 9 minutes ago link

Likely Epstein is the cover for ??? ...or why did he fly back to NY when he knew he was most likely to be arrested?

Farts and Leaves , 48 minutes ago link

Recall Trump's executive order 13818 Blocking the Property of Persons Involved in Serious Human Rights Abuse or Corruption. He is going for the jugular

Cabreado , 49 minutes ago link

Another "document dump" eh... How depressing... knowing you'll be spending the next 10++ years of your life watching too much of the greatest scum on the planet escape the Rule of Law.

[Jul 21, 2019] Is Epstein case a start of Trump counterattack on the Clinton wing of Dems

Trump attacked Hillary during 2016 elections campaign using change of Bill connection with Epstein. This was too dangerous move if he himself was implicated.
Notable quotes:
"... Why would intelligence services want to make an intelligence op out of someone so sleasy and easily compromised? ..."
"... The wealthy class has defeated the poor class. What we are seeing now is a civil war in the wealthy class. The Epstein business is just one of the skirmishes in that civil war. ..."
"... Trump is fighting for his life and money. Lose the next election and spend the rest of both fighting imprisonment. What makes me think its time to remind people that the office of POTUS has teeth? ..."
"... "I was told Epstein 'belonged to intelligence' and to leave it alone," ..."
"... does not say he "worked for intelligence". It might just mean that "intelligence" made the deal with him in return for information and that they then estimated the fall out and cleaned up (ie took people that could be blackmailed out of sensitive positions). ..."
"... But as to the "why now" of Epstein, surely it is 2020. As for Barr being a CIA kid, that does give some pause, except he is working for Trump, and so presumably he is playing his part in the 2020 event. ..."
"... From what I have read and heard, Trump is not tainted by the Epstein story. The attempts of those on the left or whatever (I can't even call it the left anymore) to associate Trump with the Epstein story are very belabored. "Grabbing pussy" of adult women who cluster around is not the same as recruiting young girls and teenagers and running sex camps for grown-up boys such as Randy Andy, RAndy Bill, and other Randy boys. ..."
"... AFAIK Trump did not ride the Lolita Express. The rumors about raping a 13-year-old in Epstein's apartment will have to become more than rumor to harm Trump, no matter how much the left pushes an Epstein = Trump narrative. ..."
"... As they pushed the Weinstein = Trump narrative. I.e., whenever you see Weinstein's name, think "Trump." But I don't think that really worked except with the very ones who were pushing that equation in the first place. In other words, auto-suggestion. ..."
"... "...every good gamblers knows to hedge their bets. ..."
"... Defense Department computers are among the top distributors of child pornography. An untold number of Department of Defense (DOD) employees and contractors have subscriptions to child pornography websites, and the problem is apparently so pervasive it requires new technical solutions to address it. ..."
"... "Hundreds of DoD-affiliated individuals" were recently identified as suspects in child pornography cases, according to an investigation by the Defense Criminal Investigative Service. ..."
"... Last year, an investigation by the National Criminal Justice Training Program found DOD computers were among the top networks nationwide for peer-to-peer sharing of pornographic images of minors. DOD's network ranked 19th out of 2,891 computer networks studied. ..."
"... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNue92Gta3s 2014 Aerial drone video of Little St. James. The island is owned privately by Jeffrey Epstein and is located southeast of St. Thomas, United States Virgin Islands. ..."
Jul 12, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

Moon Reader , Jul 11 2019 4:45 utc | 125

Mr Reader

Interesting post in that it raises many of the key issues and how they may fit together.

Generally agrees with my initial (or maybe secondary) impression that this is result of Trump triggering backmail clause by failing to act as required by those running the show.

But, I have I think a better theory more fits the situation. Acosta (the human "sh*t-grenade) was hired because he knew stuff and knew people who knew stuff. Trump was being blackmailed with Epstein affair - dems/cia/etc... It almost work, he almost attacked Iran, was led to believe it could be done in a way that would not lead to war - likely by you-know-who.

He balked and called their "bluff". They were not bluffing. Problem for them is that Trump can maybe weather the sh*t-storm they can bring - comey/brennan/clapper/et al... For now, I am inclined to side with Trump.

I don't know why but in spite of his lack of polish, he's brought some crude and interesting results.

ralphieboy , Jul 11 2019 12:19 utc | 149
Why would intelligence services want to make an intelligence op out of someone so sleasy and easily compromised?
Ghost Ship , Jul 11 2019 12:27 utc | 150
Epstein was just a young "dirty old man". Trump is innocent - can anybody point to any incident where Trump committed a real felony, not some breach of landlord regulations, For all the accusations of him being the capo di tutti capi, nothing has really stuck, so he gives the impression of being a criminal but really isn't but it's good theatre. So my guess is that Trump told Barr to go to it and bring Epstein in and bang him up for life. Reasons:
  1. Trump was getting bored with Acosta
  2. Epstein may drag down others - the Clintons being prime candiadates
  3. This is a poke in the eye for Obama
  4. Trump looks good when Epstein does the time he deserves

Meanwhile the anti-#resistance investigations role on and implicate Hillary for making false statements and Obama for trying to fix the 2016 election.
Trump'll romp home in 2020. If Adelson, etc. tries to push another Republican candidate, Trump'll run as an independent and probably still win. Trump now has his main "problems" by the balls.

As for the Daily Beast they have an article claiming that there was co-ordination between Trump and Russia instead of collusion . I'd love some of the shit the author's been smoking, 'cos it's up there with S T Coleridges Kubla Khan as a work of fantasy.

nottheonly1 , Jul 11 2019 12:52 utc | 151
'Appalled' does not suffice any longer. All this shit is more than a mentally healthy Human Being can bear - and in that fact lies also a motive to bombard the population 24/7 with shit like that. Therefore it appears that this, too is part of an orchestrated effort to rile up people against each other and destroy whatever peace still exists.

You could call it 'distraction' from insurmountable problems created by this specific sub-species of Homo Sapiens. But I am not commenting about that.

I am as pissed as a decent person can get without losing its temper. But I am utterly disgusted that this childfucker Epstein has soiled the name of one of my favorite Human Beings in history:

Brian Epstein - the one person that gave Humanity The Beatles.

I can not emphasize enough how effed up this is. There must be a court order to rename him into Jeffrey Childfucker, in order to protect the name of one of the greatest music managers ever.

But I do concede to the fact, that this kind of damage might as well limited to people who know who The Beatles were.

JasonT , Jul 11 2019 12:53 utc | 152
The wealthy class has defeated the poor class. What we are seeing now is a civil war in the wealthy class. The Epstein business is just one of the skirmishes in that civil war.
Really? , Jul 11 2019 12:57 utc | 153
Today's CJR media feed focuses on Acosta and the 2007 plea deal without mentioning either Bush or Obama. Focus is still on Trump. Of course Acosta is now a member of the Trump administration. But Trump was not in charge with this particular POS went down.

??????

https://www.cjr.org/the_media_today/alexander_acosta_jeffrey_epstein.php

harry , Jul 11 2019 9:12 utc | 139

Trump is fighting for his life and money. Lose the next election and spend the rest of both fighting imprisonment. What makes me think its time to remind people that the office of POTUS has teeth?
somebody , Jul 11 2019 9:43 utc | 140
"I was told Epstein 'belonged to intelligence' and to leave it alone,"

does not say he "worked for intelligence". It might just mean that "intelligence" made the deal with him in return for information and that they then estimated the fall out and cleaned up (ie took people that could be blackmailed out of sensitive positions).

They don't care about the fall out any longer, so this now is allowed to blow up.

The plea deal was in 2007 under president Bush.

Really? , Jul 11 2019 10:08 utc | 141
# 123 Travers

"The left is going wild thinking that this will "get Trump" but quite the opposite is happening. . .

Now this story will run into 2020 largely damaging democrats into the 2020 election. Trump's DOJ is running the operation."

That is my perception, although I am not a qualified observer.

But as to the "why now" of Epstein, surely it is 2020. As for Barr being a CIA kid, that does give some pause, except he is working for Trump, and so presumably he is playing his part in the 2020 event.

From what I have read and heard, Trump is not tainted by the Epstein story. The attempts of those on the left or whatever (I can't even call it the left anymore) to associate Trump with the Epstein story are very belabored. "Grabbing pussy" of adult women who cluster around is not the same as recruiting young girls and teenagers and running sex camps for grown-up boys such as Randy Andy, RAndy Bill, and other Randy boys.

To me the big question is why Dersh was part of the FOIA action to unseal the docs. If just appearing in a photo with Epstein is enough for "the left" to try to hang Trump, the Dersh is in a lot more image trouble, with him name on the plane manifest.

Is Trump's name on the plane log? I don't think so. So, imagewise Dersh is going to take a big hit. And, by defending Trump last summer as he did, he has now associated himself with both Trump and Epstein. Trump comes out clean. Dersh comes out Derty.

PS. Why is so much blacked out on the plane logs that have been published?

Really? , Jul 11 2019 10:20 utc | 142
125 Moon Reader

the Macow sounds "about right" to me, but only "about." I can very well imagine that Dersh is taking orders from the JSP, but if he rode the Lolita Expres, he is in trouble.

AFAIK Trump did not ride the Lolita Express. The rumors about raping a 13-year-old in Epstein's apartment will have to become more than rumor to harm Trump, no matter how much the left pushes an Epstein = Trump narrative.

As they pushed the Weinstein = Trump narrative. I.e., whenever you see Weinstein's name, think "Trump." But I don't think that really worked except with the very ones who were pushing that equation in the first place. In other words, auto-suggestion.

William Gruff , Jul 11 2019 11:00 utc | 144
O @110 sez: "...every good gamblers knows to hedge their bets.

You bet equally on both wrestlers in the ring? You don't make much profit that way. Much better to arrange who wins ahead of time with the competitors and the referee and then just bet on the one everyone agrees to make the winner.

Sure, Trump was in on the fix, so even if he won the power elites still win, but that is true for all of the other contestants in the primaries as well, with the possible exception of Sanders. The problem is that the power elites have very specific plans, and those plans depended upon their tool in the White House being Clinton, not Trump. It isn't that Trump would be their enemy or anything silly like that, but rather that a Trump victory would not resonate; would not synergize with the megatrends they were manufacturing within the population.

On the contrary, the Trump victory introduced a societal forcing function that is 180° out of sync with the larger narrative the power elites were trying to create. Trump was chosen to be the loser in the 2016 elections because his defeat would have had the opposite effect, damping trends in society that the power elites wanted quashed and reinforcing the ones that they wanted amplified. Hundreds of $billions in entertainment-base narrative generation that have been fed to the public since 2016, and had been in the production pipeline from years prior, were supposed to be reflected in the real world by the victory of the first woman president. Instead that media is being fed to the public while the top office in the world is occupied by an unrepentant pussy grabber. The messaging is diametrically opposed and interferes with itself rather than reinforcing itself.

Sure, Trump is still the tool of the power elites, but he is not the tool they were planning on.

pantaraxia , Jul 11 2019 11:20 utc | 145
@62 fastfreddy

"I am trying to link Wexner with the Bronfman's (Seagrams Liquor Family) via a source other than the Mega Group (which may not be credible, IDK)."

The existence of the Mega Group was revealed in the Wall Street Journal in 1998 under the headline 'Titans of Industry Join Forces To Work for Jewish Philanthropy'. According to the Journal , it was founded in 1991 by Wexler and Charles Bronfman.

Membership included Edgar Bronfman, the chairman of the World Jewish Congress, Charles Bronfman, Edgar's brother and a top executive of the family's flagship Seagrams Corp.; Leslie Wexler of Limited, Inc.; Charles Schusterman, chairman of Samson Investment Co. of Tulsa, Oklahoma; Harvey "Bud" Meyerhoff, Baltimore real estate magnate; Laurence Tisch, chairman of Loews Corp.; Max Fisher, the Detroit oil magnate and Republican Party powerhouse; bagel magnate Max Lender; Leonard Abramson, the founder of U.S. Healthcare; and hedge-fund manager Michael Steinhardt.

One of its so-called 'philanthropic' projects entitled "Wexner Analysis: Israeli Communication Priorities 2003," was leaked to Electronic Intifada.

Leaked document exposes pro-Israel lobby's manipulation of US public
https://electronicintifada.net/content/leaked-document-exposes-pro-israel-lobbys-manipulation-us-public/4540

Israel Shamir also writes about the Mega group in 2001 entitled Kugel Eaters, https://www.mediamonitors.net/kugel-eaters/

"...when they met in the Edgar Bronfman mansion in Manhattan. The head of the World Jewish Congress hosted a meeting of the fifty richest and most powerful Jews of the US and Canada. There was no press coverage, no limelight, just a few lines in the newspapers. The gathered multibillionaires discussed the ways to achieve Jewish unity, and strengthen the Jewish identity of American Jews, tersely reported Shlomo Shamir for Haaretz. They also agreed to launch a PR program under the Orwellian codename of 'Truth' with the purpose of influencing American public opinion regarding Israeli policies.

The megabucks call themselves 'Mega group'. This name appeared in the media a couple of years ago, as a name for the secret Israeli mole in the upper reaches of the US establishment. It came up in an overheard phone conversation, later denied by the Israeli embassy in Washington, DC. The newshounds and spook watchers got it wrong. 'Mega' was not an agent, Mega was the boss."

curious man , Jul 11 2019 11:55 utc | 146
Defense Department Computer Network Among Top Sharers of Child Pornography

Defense Department computers are among the top distributors of child pornography. An untold number of Department of Defense (DOD) employees and contractors have subscriptions to child pornography websites, and the problem is apparently so pervasive it requires new technical solutions to address it.

"Hundreds of DoD-affiliated individuals" were recently identified as suspects in child pornography cases, according to an investigation by the Defense Criminal Investigative Service.

So far, authorities have only looked into about 20 percent of these cases. But already, they've found "several" individuals "using their government devices to download or share said pornographic material."

Last year, an investigation by the National Criminal Justice Training Program found DOD computers were among the top networks nationwide for peer-to-peer sharing of pornographic images of minors. DOD's network ranked 19th out of 2,891 computer networks studied.

To prevent such widespread abuse going forward, the "End National Defense Network Abuse Act" would "crack down on this activity by upgrading the training and technical capacity of military criminal investigative organizations to confront the misuse of DoD computers, facilities, and equipment," according to a press release. It would also arrange for DOD authorities to work more closely with civilian law enforcement on these cases.

"The notion that the Department of Defense's network and Pentagon-issued computers may be used to view, create, or circulate such horrifying images is a shameful disgrace, and one we must fight head on," said Rep. Abigail Spanberger (D -- Va.), who co-sponsored the bill with Rep. Mark Meadows (R -- N.C.).

A companion bill in the senate has been introduced by Sens. Lisa Murkowski (R -- Alaska) and Brian Schatz (D -- Hawaii).

LINK 1 LINK 2

curious man , Jul 11 2019 12:02 utc | 147
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNue92Gta3s 2014 Aerial drone video of Little St. James. The island is owned privately by Jeffrey Epstein and is located southeast of St. Thomas, United States Virgin Islands.

[Jul 21, 2019] Jeffrey Epsteins Political and Sex Trafficking Networks Plus Help me find a Miami-based Cuban by Ken Silverstein

Notable quotes:
"... If you haven't heard of him, Epstein's the super-sleazy Palm Beach billionaire who was busted some time back and convicted for conspiring to bring underage foreign girls to his estates in the United States and the U.S. Virgin Islands. Or as his 2008 plea deal put it, to "knowingly and willfully conspiring with others known and unknown to persuade, induce, or entice minor females to engage in prostitution." ..."
"... I've previously written about Epstein's ties to Bill Clinton and to Donald Trump . Neither Clinton nor Trump look come out of it looking good, to put it mildly, but in this case Clinton looks a lot worse. ..."
"... "Flight logs show Bill Clinton traveled at least 10 times on Epstein's private jet, dubbed the 'Lolita Express,' by tabloids, and he is widely reported to have visited Little St. James, Epstein's private island in the US Virgin Islands," I've previously written. "That's where, according to attorneys for Epstein's victims, many of the worst crimes against minors were committed by Epstein and friends who traveled there with him." ..."
"... In a 2011 interview with her attorneys, Virginia Roberts, one of the teenagers preyed upon by Epstein, said he had told her he had "compromising" information on Bill Clinton and that the former president "owes me a favor." ..."
"... Oh yeah, and by the way Epstein donated to the Clinton Foundation and multiple Democratic Party causes before and after being convicted for pedophilia. ..."
"... Federal and state investigators amassed a mountain of evidence against Epstein, but in the end Black and his other attorneys were able to draft and negotiate a bizarre plea deal. The terms of the agreement, which was secret at the time, capped damages against Epstein - reportedly worth about $2 billion - to between $50,000 and $150,000, depending on what year he had abused the girl, an attorney with direct knowledge of the case told me. ..."
"... So why write about Epstein now? First, as just noted, this creep got off easy. Second, Page Six recently spotted Epstein on the Upper East Side with young Russian "playmates." ..."
"... He said that Karin had two departments, one that was legal and sent girls to New York and elsewhere, and an illegal side that recruited underage girls for Epstein and other global clients. "They lured young girls [to Orgy Island], mostly from small towns in Brazil and Eastern Europe – with the promise of a fat modeling contract," this person said. "They told them they'd go to the island and meet the head of the modeling agency. Instead, they were coerced into pleasuring Epstein, Brunel and their guests." ..."
"... This source said Epstein's entire sex procurement operation was laid out to him by a former Karin bookkeeper, a Cuban-American woman who worked for the modeling agency's Miami office during the relevant period. ..."
Jan 17, 2017 | washingtonbabylon.com

Before heading out for the weekend, let's discuss Jeffrey Epstein, America's best connected political pedophile, shall we?

If you haven't heard of him, Epstein's the super-sleazy Palm Beach billionaire who was busted some time back and convicted for conspiring to bring underage foreign girls to his estates in the United States and the U.S. Virgin Islands. Or as his 2008 plea deal put it, to "knowingly and willfully conspiring with others known and unknown to persuade, induce, or entice minor females to engage in prostitution."

I've previously written about Epstein's ties to Bill Clinton and to Donald Trump . Neither Clinton nor Trump look come out of it looking good, to put it mildly, but in this case Clinton looks a lot worse.

"Flight logs show Bill Clinton traveled at least 10 times on Epstein's private jet, dubbed the 'Lolita Express,' by tabloids, and he is widely reported to have visited Little St. James, Epstein's private island in the US Virgin Islands," I've previously written. "That's where, according to attorneys for Epstein's victims, many of the worst crimes against minors were committed by Epstein and friends who traveled there with him."

In a 2011 interview with her attorneys, Virginia Roberts, one of the teenagers preyed upon by Epstein, said he had told her he had "compromising" information on Bill Clinton and that the former president "owes me a favor."

Oh yeah, and by the way Epstein donated to the Clinton Foundation and multiple Democratic Party causes before and after being convicted for pedophilia.

Lately, however, the party has reportedly shunned Epstein. Indeed, he's so toxic, recently released emails show , that Team Obama rejected the idea of having Epstein's chief attorney, Roy Black, host a fundraiser. Black, by the way, is perhaps best known for winning an acquittal for William Kennedy Smith for allegedly raping a Palm Beach teenager. Following that trial Black married a juror in the case.

Federal and state investigators amassed a mountain of evidence against Epstein, but in the end Black and his other attorneys were able to draft and negotiate a bizarre plea deal. The terms of the agreement, which was secret at the time, capped damages against Epstein - reportedly worth about $2 billion - to between $50,000 and $150,000, depending on what year he had abused the girl, an attorney with direct knowledge of the case told me.

The agreement also barred victims from seeking any future financial redress. Roberts and a number of other "Jane Does" - Epstein's underage victims- are currently suing to overturn the settlement. A number of attorneys with ties to the Obama administration were involved in negotiating the deal, which was highly criticized and never publicly explained. (The astonishing story of the "sweetheart" plea deal is laid out in this article in the Palm Beach Daily News.)

So why write about Epstein now? First, as just noted, this creep got off easy. Second, Page Six recently spotted Epstein on the Upper East Side with young Russian "playmates."

Third, James Patterson, the best-selling writer, is authoring a book about Epstein that's coming out in October. It's a great time to pile on.

Fourth, I've been looking into the Epstein affair for over a year. I've interviewed dozens of sources in Florida, including several of the Miami-area lawyers for the Jane Does, and have a lot of material in my files.

Interviews with key sources, documents and previously published accounts show that Epstein's closest friends and collaborators included Ghislaine Maxwell, the daughter of disgraced British newspaper tycoon Robert Maxwell, and Frenchman Jean-Luc Brunel. The latter ran a modeling agency called Karin, which is based in Paris but also has offices in New York, Miami, and Brazil.

Brunel, whose role in the Epstein case has been covered by Jezebel and others, has a long and sordid record of abusing and pimping out young women. Back in 1988, 60 Minutes aired a segment that featured a dozen models who said they had been sexually assaulted by Brunel.

Craig Pyes, an associate producer and chief investigator of the segment, said various witnesses told him that Brunel was "heavily into cocaine and sex with young girls," and that he set-up parties for "his rich playboy friends" and invited girls to weekend parties that "operated as meat markets for older men." Several models told 60 Minutes they had been drugged and raped by Brunel or his friends.

What's especially outrageous, attorneys tell me, is that neither Brunel nor Maxwell ever testified in Epstein's case. Both fled the United States on the eve of their respective depositions with the flimsiest of excuses. (Page Six recently reported that Maxwell was finally going to be forced to testify in the ongoing Jane Doe trial, but I haven't been able to confirm that.)

Brunel lined up underage girls for Epstein's Virgin Islands hideaway through his modeling agency, several of the victims' attorneys I interviewed said. A private investigator involved in the case backed those accounts.

He said that Karin had two departments, one that was legal and sent girls to New York and elsewhere, and an illegal side that recruited underage girls for Epstein and other global clients. "They lured young girls [to Orgy Island], mostly from small towns in Brazil and Eastern Europe – with the promise of a fat modeling contract," this person said. "They told them they'd go to the island and meet the head of the modeling agency. Instead, they were coerced into pleasuring Epstein, Brunel and their guests."

This source said Epstein's entire sex procurement operation was laid out to him by a former Karin bookkeeper, a Cuban-American woman who worked for the modeling agency's Miami office during the relevant period.

I've unsuccessfully tried to track this woman down. Anyone with information please email me at [email protected] .

I've reached out to Epstein, Brunel, Maxwell and Black on various occasions and never heard back from any of them.

[Jul 21, 2019] Steve Pieczenik additional video on Lolita express

Nov 03, 2016 | www.zerohedge.com

Muse minus Time chubbar Nov 3, 2016 10:18 AM ,

Steve Pieczenik additional video on "Lolita express" HRottenC enabled/participated in pedophilia as well, more intel leaks to come from US gov. insiders:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12zVlaZyX3Q

Julian Assange is a hero as well as the US moral citizens standing up against this evil criminal monster!!!

[Jul 21, 2019] Lolita Express book will be released Monday detailing the exploits of the infamous billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein

Notable quotes:
"... A blockbuster book detailing the exploits of the infamous billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein hits shelves on Monday. Sources close to the 63-year-old Brooklyn native have advised him to be "unreachable and out of the country" this weekend when the preliminary media blitz gets underway. ..."
"... Epstein is far deeper scum than a mere pedophile, while the Koch bros and Pence may have a truly fundamentalist moral streak. The period of time between now and the election could be very dangerous for Epstein. ..."
Oct 09, 2016 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

Lolita Express Monday - just another tequila sunrise:

A blockbuster book detailing the exploits of the infamous billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein hits shelves on Monday. Sources close to the 63-year-old Brooklyn native have advised him to be "unreachable and out of the country" this weekend when the preliminary media blitz gets underway.

"Filthy Rich," a collaborative effort between best-selling author James Patterson and investigator John Connolly, is set to reopen old wounds for Epstein, who served 13 months in prison following a 2008 conviction for soliciting prostitution from a teenage girl.

Epstein has reportedly settled numerous similar cases out of court. The blockbuster book is also expected to further embarrass celebs who once partied with Epstein.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/pedophile-billionaire-jeffrey-epstein-braces-book-release-article-1.2819009

An absolutely remarkable aspect of this "news" article is that while it mentions Trump as a celebrity who partied with Epstein, the name "Bill Clinton" is entirely missing. That's despite documentary proof that "Bill" took 21 flights on the Lolita Express.

Just another MSM advertorial for Hyena Rodent Clinton.

Steve H. October 9, 2016 at 11:17 am

Hey Jim, I've got a comment in moderation that touches on this. Specific to Epstein, I'll say the Koch brothers are as close to the White House as they will ever get, and that Epstein was adamant about getting evidence about the people he serviced.

Epstein is far deeper scum than a mere pedophile, while the Koch bros and Pence may have a truly fundamentalist moral streak. The period of time between now and the election could be very dangerous for Epstein.

Jim Haygood October 9, 2016 at 11:30 am

Now that the Politics of Personal Destruction are in full play, certain parties had better hope that Epstein's settlements, compelling his victims to silence in exchange for hush money, hold up.

After all, if one of them has already spent all her settlement money, she's effectively judgment proof in case she tells her story in violation of the settlement.

As ol' Saddam Hussein used to say, " Anything is possible now, my brothers. "

MyLessThanPrimeBeef October 9, 2016 at 11:53 am

Will the next debate be rated XXX?

Is this getting personal? Is that trap for Trump?

MyLessThanPrimeBeef October 9, 2016 at 11:37 am

Trump: "Go behind closed doors of the holier-than-thou politicians and pundits and see what they're saying. I look like a baby."

What's it like inside the restrooms at the White House or Capitol Hill? Must be very colorful.

Here, we are looking at public and private etiquette. Unless you're a saint or infallible, many of us work like that.

Hence, surveillance.

[Jul 21, 2019] Conservative Scold Ken Starr Got a Billionaire Pedophile Off by M.L. Nestel

Jan 30, 2015 | www.thedailybeast.com

Pharisee Conservative Scold Ken Starr Got a Billionaire Pedophile Off Many believe Jeffrey Epstein could have been jailed for life for violating scores of underage girls, but Ken Starr and the rest of his legal team got him a deal. 5:55 AM ET

It was supposed to be a probe into the first family's finances. But when independent counsel Judge Ken Starr mounted an investigation into the Clintons' real-estate deals , the "Whitewater" probe took a peep-show turn . Starr and his team began to obsess over every lurid detail of Bill Clinton's philandering, issuing a 473-page report that was a catalog of misuse of funds but mostly torrid sexcapades in the White House and the president accused of committing perjury to cover it up.

The Starr Report came out in 1998. And all of this would be history, if it weren't for the fact that Starr, the legendary moral ninny now serving as the chancellor at Baylor University , was handpicked nearly a decade later to negotiate a sweetheart plea deal with state and federal prosecutors for billionaire pederast and Clinton crony Jeffrey Epstein.

On Wednesday, some of Epstein's lawyers were back in court, arguing that the negotiations over that deal must remain secret.

"I had given [Epstein] a list of lawyers I worked with in the past that had been exceptionally able and Jeffrey picked from the list," Alan Dershowitz, the world-famous criminal attorney and Harvard professor, told The Daily Beast. He also worked on Epstein's behalf. "Starr had experience in investigating sex investigations," Dershowitz said. "He had experience as the solicitor general and as a judge. He had all the bases covered."

The acquisition proved to be a panacea. In 2006, Jeffrey Epstein was hauled in by Palm Beach police for violating scores of underage girls for years and was facing federal charges for trafficking them across state lines. He was formally sentenced to 18 months prison, but only served 13 of them and was allowed to travel between his various mansions frequently. He was also forced to register as a sex offender.

Many believe Epstein dodged certain doom -- he could have remained behind bars for the rest of his life given the number of alleged victims (some say it's as many as hundreds, while his attorneys suggest it's barely double-digits). But ask the client and he believes the plea agreement was lousy.

"Jeffrey didn't think it was a good deal," Dershowitz said. And that may have been because Epstein's all-star legal team -- which included Starr, Dershowitz, Miami lawyer Roy Black, New York power esquires Jay Lefkowitz and Gerald Lefcourt, and Martin Weinberg in Boston -- apparently couldn't seal an even sweeter deal.

[Jul 21, 2019] Breaking: Clinton Just Got Devastating News

Highly recommended!
Epstein issue and his connection to Clinton mafia was raised by press in 2016 but went nowhere.
The fact that Trump campaign targeted Clinton for his connection with Epstein means that Trump is probably was not involved as a client of Epstein brothel with underage prostitutes for high ranking politicians .
Notable quotes:
"... Now Bill Clinton is back in the press and not for his controversial relationship with Monica Lewinsky, but rather his friendship with Epstein. In fact, flight records indicate that Bill would frequent the island paradise during the 2002 and 2005 era while Hillary, Bill's wife, was a Senator in New York. ..."
"... The woman went on to say how orgies were a regular occurrence and that she recalled two young girls from New York who were always seen around the five-house compound but their personal back-stories were never revealed. ..."
"... Moreover, Epstein was invited to Chelsea Clinton's wedding in 2010 amongst 400 other guests, demonstrating his close friendship with the Clinton family. ..."
"... To top it all off blue blood, "Prince Andrew was allegedly one of the house's visitors. On Friday, the Duke of York was named in a federal lawsuit filed against Epstein, whom the FBI once reportedly linked to 40 young women. Filed in 2008 in the Southern District of Florida, the $50 million lawsuit claimed Epstein had a "sexual preference and obsession for underage minor girls gained access to primarily economically disadvantaged minor girls in his home and sexually assaulted these girls,"reported the Washington Post. ..."
Aug 12, 2016 | beforeitsnews.com

... ... ...

Back in 2005 police conducted an 11 month-long undercover investigation into Epstein and his estate after the mother of a 14-year-old girl went to police after suspecting her daughter was paid $300 for at least one sexual act on the island in which she was ordered to strip, leaving on just her panties, while giving Epstein a massage.

Although police found tons of photos of young women on the island and even interviewed eyewitnesses, Epstein was hit with a mere slap on the wrist after "pleading to a single charge of prostitution". Epstein later served 13-months of his 18-month service in jail.

In 2008, Epstein was hit again, this time with a $50 million civil suit after another victim filed in federal court claiming that she was "recruited" by Epstein to give him a "massage" but was essentially forced into having sexual intercourse with him for $200 which was payable upon completion. The women were coming out of the woodwork.

Now Bill Clinton is back in the press and not for his controversial relationship with Monica Lewinsky, but rather his friendship with Epstein. In fact, flight records indicate that Bill would frequent the island paradise during the 2002 and 2005 era while Hillary, Bill's wife, was a Senator in New York.

'I remember asking Jeffrey what's Bill Clinton doing here kind of thing, and he laughed it off and said well he owes me a favor,' one unidentified woman said in the lawsuit, which was filed in Palm Beach Circuit Court.

The woman went on to say how orgies were a regular occurrence and that she recalled two young girls from New York who were always seen around the five-house compound but their personal back-stories were never revealed.

"At least one woman on the compound was there unwillingly," reported the Daily Mail in a recent article. The woman was allegedly forced to have sex with "politicians, businessmen, royalty, academicians" at the retreat. Just one of "more than 40 women" that have come forth with claims against Epstein, showing the vast scale of the man's dark operations, which aren't limited only to Little St. James.

Moreover, Epstein was invited to Chelsea Clinton's wedding in 2010 amongst 400 other guests, demonstrating his close friendship with the Clinton family.

To top it all off blue blood, "Prince Andrew was allegedly one of the house's visitors. On Friday, the Duke of York was named in a federal lawsuit filed against Epstein, whom the FBI once reportedly linked to 40 young women. Filed in 2008 in the Southern District of Florida, the $50 million lawsuit claimed Epstein had a "sexual preference and obsession for underage minor girls gained access to primarily economically disadvantaged minor girls in his home and sexually assaulted these girls,"reported the Washington Post.

[Jul 21, 2019] Clinton shared more than a dozen flights with a woman who federal prosecutors believe procured underage girls to sexually service Epstein and his friends and acted as a potential co-conspirator in his crimes

Notable quotes:
"... "I wanted to tell you that I have compiled a list of 34 confirmed minors," Villafana wrote to Lefkowitz. "There are six others, whose name [sic] we already have, who need to be interviewed by the FBI to confirm whether they were 17 or 18 at the time of their activity with Mr. Epstein." ..."
"... Epstein agreed to a 30-month sentence, including 18 months of jail time and 12 months of house arrest and the agreement to pay dozens of young girls under a federal statute providing for compensation to victims of child sexual abuse. .the U.S. Attorney's Office promised not to pursue any federal charges against Epstein or his Named and Un-Named co-conspirators. ..."
"... His legal team? Gerald Lefcourt, Roy Black, Ken Starr, and Alan Dershowitz. ..."
"... The federal non-prosecution agreement Epstein's legal team negotiated immunized all named and unnamed potential co-conspirators in Epstein's child trafficking network, which includes those who allegedly procured minors for Epstein and any powerbrokers who may have molested them." ..."
Feb 23, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

William Dorritt , 3 hours ago link

LOLITA EXPRESS...ORGY ISLAND...ELITE PEDOPHILE RING ?-2006
* George W Bush President: January 20, 2001 – Jan. 20, 2009
* Alberto R. Gonzales, Attorney General USA: Feb. 3, 2005–Sept. 17, 2007
* Michael Bernard Mukasey, AG. USA: Nov. 9, 2007 – Jan. 20, 2009
* Eric Holder, A G. USA: Feb. 3, 2009 – April 27, 2015
* Loretta Lynch, Attorney General USA: April 27, 2015 – Present
* Assistant U.S. Attorney Marie Villafana
* Epstein's Attorneys: Gerald Lefcourt, Roy Black, Ken Starr, Alan Dershowitz.

+ "He (Epstein) is an enthusiastic member of the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations."

+ Bill Clinton...26 trips aboard the "Lolita Express"

Jeffrey Epstein's Boeing 727 is equipped with the necessary hardware for him to wake up, roll out of bed, and start trading.

+ Clinton shared more than a dozen flights with a woman who federal prosecutors believe procured underage girls to sexually service Epstein and his friends and acted as a "potential co-conspirator" in his crimes.

+ Socialite Ghislaine Maxwell and Epstein's former assistant Sarah Kellen -- have been repeatedly accused in court filings of acting as pimps. Oxford-educated Maxwell, recently seen dining with Clinton at Nello's on Madison Avenue. Manhattan-London G. Maxwell, daughter of the mysteriously deceased media titan Robert Maxwell.

+ A new lawsuit has revealed how Clinton took multiple trips to Epstein's private island where he 'kept young women as sex slaves'

+ Clinton was also apparently friends with a woman who collected naked pictures of underage girls for Epstein to choose from

+ Clinton invited her (pimp) to Chelsea's wedding

+ According to former child sex slave Virginia Roberts and a class action lawsuit against convicted billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, former President Bill Clinton was present during sex parties involving up to twenty underage girls at Epstein's secluded island in the Caribbean.

+ 20 girls between the ages of 14 and 17 said were sexually abused by Epstein, Palm Beach Police and FBI

+ 35 female minors sexually abused, Epstein settled lawsuits from more than 30 "Jane Doe" victims since 2008; the youngest alleged victim was 12 years old at the time of her abuse.

..............................Source: FBI & Federal Prosecutors

+ flights on Epstein's planes 1997 to 2005, include Dershowitz (FOX NEWS, Harvard Law), former Treasury Secretary and Harvard president Larry Summers, Naomi Campbell, and scientist Stephen Pinker.

+ In the most recent court documents, filed on December 30, Roberts further claims she was sex-trafficked to "many other powerful men, including numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a well-known Prime Minister, and other world leaders." Roberts said Epstein trafficked children to politicians, Wall Streeters and A- listers to curry favor, advance his business, and for political influence.

The FIX

2015 Doc Release by Judge:

Assistant U.S. Attorney Marie Villafana wrote to Epstein lawyer Jay Lefkowitz in a Sept. 19, 2007, email. "I will include our standard language regarding resolving all criminal liability and I will mention 'co-conspirators,' but I would prefer not to highlight for the judge all of the other crimes and all of the other persons that we could charge ... maybe we can set a time to meet, if you want to meet 'off campus' somewhere, that is fine. I will make sure that I have all the necessary decision makers present or 'on call' as well."

"I wanted to tell you that I have compiled a list of 34 confirmed minors," Villafana wrote to Lefkowitz. "There are six others, whose name [sic] we already have, who need to be interviewed by the FBI to confirm whether they were 17 or 18 at the time of their activity with Mr. Epstein."

In a December 2007 letter, the prosecutor acknowledges some notifications of alleged victims but says they were sent after the U.S. Attorney's Office signed the plea deal and halted for most of the women at the request of Epstein's lawyers.

"Three victims were notified shortly after the signing of the Non-Prosecution Agreement of the general terms of that Agreement," Villafana wrote, again to Lefkowitz. "You raised objections to any victim notification, and no further notifications were done."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2015/07/judge-unseals-more-details-in-jeffrey-epstein-underage-sex-lawsuit-210065

Original Deal Hidden

On Sept. 24, 2007, in a deal shrouded in secrecy that left alleged victims shocked at its leniency,

Epstein agreed to a 30-month sentence, including 18 months of jail time and 12 months of house arrest and the agreement to pay dozens of young girls under a federal statute providing for compensation to victims of child sexual abuse. .the U.S. Attorney's Office promised not to pursue any federal charges against Epstein or his Named and Un-Named co-conspirators.

Sources:

Fox By Malia Zimmerman, May 13, 2016

Daily Mail Reporter 19 March 2014

Gawker Nick Bryant 01/22/15

Western Journalism Kris Zane March 27, 2014

Politico By Josh Gerstein 07/07/15

New York Magazine, By Landon Thomas Jr.

THE FIX IS IN

"In 2006 the FBI counted at least 40 underage girls who had been molested by Epstein. Authorities searched his Florida mansion and found two computers containing child *********** and homemade video and photographs from cameras hidden in bedroom walls which had been used to film sex acts. The case was airtight for many counts of sexual crimes but Palm Beach State Attorney Barry Krischer and the Justice Department stepped in and offered Epstein a plea deal. In 2008 Epstein pleaded guilty in a Florida court to one count of soliciting underage girls for sex. His punishment was 13 months of "8 hour nights only" at a halfway house. No other charges about raping underage girls nor running an underage sex trafficking ring were mentioned in the plea. His legal team? Gerald Lefcourt, Roy Black, Ken Starr, and Alan Dershowitz.

The federal non-prosecution agreement Epstein's legal team negotiated immunized all named and unnamed potential co-conspirators in Epstein's child trafficking network, which includes those who allegedly procured minors for Epstein and any powerbrokers who may have molested them."

http://dcxposed.com/2015/01/26/bilderberg-pervs-island-sin-scandal-threatens-ultra-elite-politicians-lawyers-royalty/

William Dorritt , 3 hours ago link

The Talented Mr. Epstein

Lately, Jeffrey Epstein's high-flying style has been drawing oohs and aahs: the bachelor financier lives in New York's largest private residence, claims to take only billionaires as clients, and flies celebrities including Bill Clinton and Kevin Spacey on his Boeing 727. But pierce his air of mystery and the picture changes. Vicky Ward explores Epstein's investment career, his ties to retail magnate Leslie Wexner, and his complicated past.

June 27, 2011 12:00 am

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2003/03/jeffrey-epstein-200303

Jeffrey Epstein: International Moneyman of Mystery

So how do termite grouping patterns fare as an investment strategy? Again, facts are hard to come by. A working day for Epstein starts at 5 a.m., when he gets up and scours the world markets on his Bloomberg screen -- each of his houses, in New York, St. Thomas, Palm Beach, and New Mexico, as well as the 727, is equipped with the necessary hardware for him to wake up, roll

http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/n_7912/index3.html

[Jul 21, 2019] That a person with the stature of being a former president would hang around with a low-life like Epstein is really telling. He flew perhaps twenty-seven times on Epsteins plane which makes him more than just a passing acquaintance. Birds of a feather flock together.

Notable quotes:
"... The children in some of these poor third-world 'orphanages' aren't really orphans as we understand the term but are just from poor families who can't take care of them. ..."
"... That a person with the stature of being a former president would hang around with a low-life like Epstein is really telling. He flew perhaps twenty-seven times on Epstein's plane which makes him more than just a passing acquaintance. Birds of a feather flock together. ..."
"... If a country next to us, so similar to ours in many ways but with a fraction of our population, has so many that can be exposed at one time then how many could the US have? ..."
"... The Burning Platform has featured a series of posts over the last few weeks that provide a volume of evidence that is impossible to discount. ..."
"... I have no doubt whatsoever that child sex abuse, trafficking and even sex-related murder may well be hung around the necks of very, very famous persons, and the horrors so bad that those persons (if still alive) will not even make it to trial before they're hung from a street lamp. ..."
"... What is clear is that the contention that there is "no evidence", a contention that is asserted or implied in seemingly every mainstream media discussion, is flatly false. There is a vast array of pertinent evidence, much of it circumstantial, but much of it also suggesting something of the mindset of some of the central figures. Anyone who denies this is utterly oblivious, or a liar, or a fool. ..."
"... As to what the evidence establishes, that is a different question. If skilled and intelligent investigators fail to take it up, then motivated and fervent - if not entirely competent - inquirers will surely rise up in their stead. ..."
"... Watch for the "fake news" sources' standard method for dealing with a large set of serious allegations like these from the internet's "real news" sources. They will take the most absurd/least likely allegations and dispose of them. They will then unobtrusively fail to address harder to dismiss allegations. Instead they will argue to the effect that, some of these allegations are false so obviously all must be. ..."
"... The "truther" site Snopes once had a perfect example, since taken down, I suspect because it made the technique so obvious ..."
Jan 24, 2017 | www.unz.com
anonymous December 6, 2016 at 3:47 pm GMT • 300 Words

The children in some of these poor third-world 'orphanages' aren't really orphans as we understand the term but are just from poor families who can't take care of them. These international adoptions are a business where everyone along the line gets paid with the child being the commodity being sold to the end purchaser, people in the west seeking to adopt a child to make themselves feel good. As in the mentioned case, the agencies move around from country to country where people are poor and desperate and legal safeguards are weak. Although the end receivers seem to be mostly naive and well-meaning people there's no telling how many aren't.

That a person with the stature of being a former president would hang around with a low-life like Epstein is really telling. He flew perhaps twenty-seven times on Epstein's plane which makes him more than just a passing acquaintance. Birds of a feather flock together.

The Canadians pulled in over three hundred people. If a country next to us, so similar to ours in many ways but with a fraction of our population, has so many that can be exposed at one time then how many could the US have? Yet we hardly ever hear much, just of a few lone wolves here and there. Look at how Sandusky got away with it for so many years. People didn't want to know, turned a blind eye to it, because he was too valuable.

This entire bunch who hobnob with each other have a very creepy vibe. There's all these 'coincidences' that seem to gather together in one place.

Alfred1860 , December 6, 2016 at 3:50 pm GMT \n

@MQ

This 'story' is complete horseshit / random confirmation bias. Scan the full social media accounts of any group of 100+ people and you could find just as much 'evidence' if you were determined to do so. This is scary -- the day that any social media post involving children that uses the word "chicken" anywhere in it counts as evidence of pedophilia is the day anyone could be smeared.

Ron Unz should be ashamed of himself for giving this kind of unhinged paranoid fear-mongering space.

Do some of your own research on this topic and you will come to a different conclusion if you can get beyond your massive bias. The Burning Platform has featured a series of posts over the last few weeks that provide a volume of evidence that is impossible to discount.

Most people cannot accept something like this would be real because they cannot fathom the depths of evil that exist in this world ..why, I don't know. You'd think the fact that many of the people implicated have also been the ones fully on board with unprovoked wars that have killed, maimed and displaced millions of people, including children, would be evidence enough.

Kudos to Ron Unz for exposing more people to this tragic, disgusting, horrendous story.

dc.sunsets , December 6, 2016 at 3:54 pm GMT \n

Socionomic Theory documents that the public's appetite for scandals is low when stocks and high and high when stocks are low.

Case in point: The "news" about Enron was favorable all the way down, until the stock had lost way over 90%. Only then did "news" about criminality and malfeasance gain traction.

This being the case, with stocks at All Time Highs after an astonishing 7 year vertical rally, pizzagate's very existence here tells us that when the next bear market (in social mood, as revealed by stock prices) is in full swing, the level of sociopathic, demonic behaviors emerging into public consciousness will be unimaginable.

I have no doubt whatsoever that child sex abuse, trafficking and even sex-related murder may well be hung around the necks of very, very famous persons, and the horrors so bad that those persons (if still alive) will not even make it to trial before they're hung from a street lamp.

Public disgust with those who ran (and run) the Federal Government will in all likelihood be so pervasive that it will undermine the very political cohesion of the United States.

Jus' Sayin'... , December 6, 2016 at 4:30 pm GMT \n
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@BucephalusXYZ

This is by far the best survey of this topic that I've read.

What is clear is that the contention that there is "no evidence", a contention that is asserted or implied in seemingly every mainstream media discussion, is flatly false. There is a vast array of pertinent evidence, much of it circumstantial, but much of it also suggesting something of the mindset of some of the central figures. Anyone who denies this is utterly oblivious, or a liar, or a fool.

As to what the evidence establishes, that is a different question. If skilled and intelligent investigators fail to take it up, then motivated and fervent - if not entirely competent - inquirers will surely rise up in their stead.

Watch for the "fake news" sources' standard method for dealing with a large set of serious allegations like these from the internet's "real news" sources. They will take the most absurd/least likely allegations and dispose of them. They will then unobtrusively fail to address harder to dismiss allegations. Instead they will argue to the effect that, some of these allegations are false so obviously all must be.

The "truther" site Snopes once had a perfect example, since taken down, I suspect because it made the technique so obvious. One popular right-wing internet site claimed to link 100 or so suspicious deaths to the Clintons. Snopes attacked the obviously absurd linkages and was left with about twenty cases of persons who (1) were involved or rumored to be involved with nefarious activities involving the Clintons; (2) were scheduled to testify against the Clintons or rumored to be brokering plea deals; and (3) died under suspicious circumstances soon after. Snopes dismissed these with a comment to the effect that all public figures had numbers of known associates die like this; let's just move on, folks; nothing to see here.

Jus' Sayin'... , December 6, 2016 at 4:55 pm GMT \n
200 Words @MQ This 'story' is complete horseshit / random confirmation bias. Scan the full social media accounts of any group of 100+ people and you could find just as much 'evidence' if you were determined to do so. This is scary -- the day that any social media post involving children that uses the word "chicken" anywhere in it counts as evidence of pedophilia is the day anyone could be smeared.

Ron Unz should be ashamed of himself for giving this kind of unhinged paranoid fear-mongering space.

In one of my many different careers I worked for a couple of years as an outside consultant to the FBI's ViCAP (now VICAP) program. About the time I was thus delving the depths of human depravity - and they are far deeper than the more fortunate readers of this are ever likely to learn - a scandal similar to this broke in Belgium, involving the highest levels of society, politics, and the EU bureaucracy in criminal conspiracies to kidnap children, sexually violate them, torture them, and even use them in the production of snuff films. A full investigation dead-ended after many suicides and suspicious deaths and disappearances. IMHO, based on some experience with criminal conspiracies of this type, the mass of material presented here is a pretty overwhelming indication that something very bad is happening. That the MSM ("fake new") sources are not paying more attentionto this is scandalous.

eah , December 6, 2016 at 5:03 pm GMT \n
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I'm not going to commit myself to the idea that this is going to be as huge as Rotherham was.

Sorry, but you are deluded if you believe Rotherham was "huge" in the media - even after the story broke, the English media did its best to downplay and underreport it - when they did report it, especially the BBC, it was always in a professional monotone, with no hint of outrage, or how disgusting and appalling all of it was, including/especially the behavior of the authorities - however let the BNP or EDL protest in front of the court where some of the Paki scum were being tried, and there you saw and felt media outrage - at this point, Rotherham has practically disappeared from the news - which is pretty sad because as everyone knows, it was just the tip of the iceberg.

And as currently being framed and investigatively fleshed out, if Rotherham was "huge", then Pizzagate will be a scandal of positively galactic dimension.

People will not let this go the way they did with the Jeffrey Epstein sleaze.

Beaderino , December 6, 2016 at 6:26 pm GMT \n
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Thank you for this article. It is well written and makes the point I have been trying to make. That the Wikileaks taken together with the Instagram photos warrant an investigation. A person with a predilection to pedophilia (based on the Instagram photos, choice of music, and music recordings at the Pizza Parlor premises) at the least, should not be running a "child-friendly" pizza parlor without some kind of societal due diligence to ensure the safety of our children.

On the one hand, what is lost if an investigation occurs and it turns out there is no wrong doing? We would have wasted some tax dollars and time of the law enforcement teams, but James Alefantis would in fact benefit from being exonerated. If however, there is ANY truth and any harm has and is occurring to children, then the greater good resulting from the investigation would be without price.

Alfred1860 , December 6, 2016 at 7:12 pm GMT \n
@Jus' Sayin'... In one of my many different careers I worked for a couple of years as an outside consultant to the FBI's ViCAP (now VICAP) program. About the time I was thus delving the depths of human depravity -- and they are far deeper than the more fortunate readers of this are ever likely to learn -- a scandal similar to this broke in Belgium, involving the highest levels of society, politics, and the EU bureaucracy in criminal conspiracies to kidnap children, sexually violate them, torture them, and even use them in the production of snuff films. A full investigation dead-ended after many suicides and suspicious deaths and disappearances. IMHO, based on some experience with criminal conspiracies of this type, the mass of material presented here is a pretty overwhelming indication that something very bad is happening. That the MSM ("fake new") sources are not paying more attentionto this is scandalous.

The Belgian case, among other high-profile quashed investigations, is summarized here:

https://www.theburningplatform.com/2016/11/29/could-the-pizzagate-allegations-be-true/

It was known as the Dutroux Affair.

FKA Max , December 6, 2016 at 7:28 pm GMT \n
400 Words @FKA Max
Furthermore, Tony Podesta's favorite artist is Biljana Djurdjevic, whose art heavily features images of children in BDSM -esque positions in large showers.
Psychopathy in the Pedophile (From Psychopathy: Antisocial, Criminal, and Violent Behavior, P 304-320, 1998, Theodore Millon, Erik Simonsen, et al, eds.--See NCJ-179236)
This paper argues that pedophilia may represent a special case or subcase of psychopathy and that the main aims of both the psychopath and the pedophile are to dominate, to use, and to subjugate another person in service of the grandiose self. [...] It notes that the major differences between psychopaths and pedophiles are that the object of the predation for the pedophile is a child and that the overt behavioral manifestation of the pathology is sexual.
- https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/publications/Abstract.aspx?id=179240

I just wanted to reemphasize Scott Adams' statement about the scandal:

Over on his blog, Scott Adams asks us to keep in mind cases where confirmation bias did lead to false allegations of institutional pedophilia, to caution against excessive confidence.

These types of investigations and scandals can easily lead to 'witch hunts' and 'panics' and need to be handled with the greatest care, prudence, and levelheadedness possible.

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I wanted to add the following study/information, because as the study states ' These results provide further evidence of the importance of distinguishing between these groups of offenders. '

This might just be an irrelevant distinction for most people appalled by this potential/alleged abuse of power and authority of 'our' elites; but I believe we might mostly be looking at and dealing with psychopathy and not necessarily 'just' pedophilia in this Pizzagate scandal.

This has several different implications for how this scandal might be handled or be covered up, etc., because psychopaths are master liars, deflectors, charmers, etc., i.e. 'pillars of the community,' 'movers and shakers,' etc.

There is another curious connection here; Professor Robert Hare – the father of psychopathy research – said this:

Hare considers newspaper tycoon Robert Maxwell to have been a strong candidate as a corporate psychopath.[10]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy_in_the_workplace#General

Robert Maxwell is the father of Ghislaine Maxwell, who is close friends with Jeffery Epstein:

In an American court case that was made public in January 2015, a woman identified as 'Jane Doe 3′ said she was approached by Maxwell in 1999, and claimed that Maxwell procured under-age girls to have sex with Epstein. Maxwell has always denied any involvement in Epstein's crimes.[10] She said: "She [Ghislaine] said she'd hit hard times. Jeffrey offered her a job and then, I guess, because of her ability to procure girls, she became a vital asset to him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghislaine_Maxwell


Psychopathy among pedophilic and nonpedophilic child molesters.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22571910

Abstract
OBJECTIVE :
Among men who commit sexual offenses against children, at least 2 distinct groups can be identified on the basis of the age of the primary targets of their sexual interest; pedophiles and nonpedophiles.
METHOD :
In the present report, across 2 independent samples of both types of child molesters as well as controls, a total of 104 men (53 pedophilic and 51 nonpedophilic) who had sexually offended against a child age 13 or younger were compared to each other (and to 49 non-sex offender controls) on psychopathy as assessed by the Psychopathic Personality Inventory (PPI).
RESULTS :
In both samples of child molesters, the nonpedophiles scored as significantly more psychopathic than the pedophiles.
CONCLUSIONS :
These results provide further evidence of the importance of distinguishing between these groups of offenders.

Olorin , December 6, 2016 at 9:36 pm GMT \n
500 Words @MQ This 'story' is complete horseshit / random confirmation bias. Scan the full social media accounts of any group of 100+ people and you could find just as much 'evidence' if you were determined to do so. This is scary -- the day that any social media post involving children that uses the word "chicken" anywhere in it counts as evidence of pedophilia is the day anyone could be smeared.

Ron Unz should be ashamed of himself for giving this kind of unhinged paranoid fear-mongering space.

Your comment sounds familiar to me. Are you writing from the UK perchance?

Back in the mid-Aughts I was surprised by how often I saw commenters at MSM news sites talking about the grooming and abduction of white girls in cities in England. At the time I was regularly reading BBC, Guardian, Telegraph, and Times. The stories where these comments appeared were diverse in topic.

Sometimes other comments would share similar experiences. Some would say they talked to someone who claimed similar experience. Others would say they'd heard murmurs of such things.

These voices repeatedly called on the MSM outlet to investigate, or they wondered why no response was forthcoming from elected officials or policymakers.

This was after–I later learned–Ann Cryer (MP for Keighley) had bravely stepped forward on behalf of girls whose parents had approached her for help. IOW, the cat was emerging from the bag, but the MSM were trying to stuff it back in.

Dismissive responses to these comments frequently were framed as yours is here: nothing to see here, move along, it's confirmation bias, you people are nuts, mods, step in and censor them!

In the Rotherham/etc. case, racism, Islamophobia, etc., were trotted out to inflict silence.

What was most noteworthy to me, and creepy, was how these comments would be removed from the comment streams of these outlets.

Sometimes the comments would be deleted but the response calling them racists or Islamophobes allowed to stand.

By the late Aughts I was convinced some sort of coverup was underway of something terrible indeed.

We now know that the MSM were key players in that.

Similar murmurings were afoot in Pennsylvania for many years prior to the revelations of the sexual abuse of children by Penn State coach Sandusky. I knew men who steered their sons away from football in general, guiding them instead to hockey or lacrosse, because the word on the street was that football camp was not a safe place for boys anymore. (Nor, increasingly, Boy Scouts or church camps.)

The gig is up for the MSM acting as panderers and pimps in the Cathedragogue of their own degenerate Narrative-religion.

They won't go down without a fight. They have more power and money to lose than any of the kids victimized by pedocidal perverts.

But what those kids have to lose is a treasure of vastly more importance than power and money.

Thing is, truth and goodness of spirit will win. This is part of why these degenerates fight back as they do. They can put truth and goodness on the run for only so long. They fight back not because they are losing, but because, by nature, they can never join the winning side of truth and goodness. It's just not in them.

All the more reason they need to be found out and reined in hard.

One last thing, regarding some people's assertion that these symbols, in-jokes, etc., are all "just a game." Or, worse, "art." (Which implies getting money and power by representing degeneracy to decorate rich people's businesses, homes and bedrooms.)

If pedophilia, grooming, and child rape are now matters to take lightly as shibboleths of entrance to circles of power, then those circles of power need to be napalmed.

"In the beginning there were the swamp, the hoe, and Jussi."

Sunbeam , December 6, 2016 at 10:52 pm GMT \n
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I think the crux of the problem is that most people find two different things equally plausible.

1) That the people who are talking about this (pizzagate) are lunatics.

or

2) That Podesta and the rest actually are involved in things like this.

Personally I think a nation that has reached this point, that it is totally believable that our leaders and elites are a bunch of monsters well that's a real problem.

Another problem is that the UK article a poster above linked to is two years old. Has anyone heard anything about that since? Expect to?

Sandy Berger's Socks , December 6, 2016 at 11:13 pm GMT \n
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How many members of the media political class, that are dismissing this as fake news have enjoyed "pizza" at Besta or at a similar place?

What if criminal deviancy rather than disqualifying a person, is not instead some weird prerequisite for elite status? Don't have to worry about rock throwers if they're inside the same glass house.

Blackmail seems as good an explanation as any for things like John Roberts sudden change of heart on the constitutionality of the Obama care mandate.

Aaron B. , December 7, 2016 at 12:09 am GMT \n
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This is a very good summary; thank you for publishing it.

The speed with which the old media have declared the entire thing false, far sooner than they possibly could have explored all the latest information and come to that conclusion, is astonishing. In other cases of conspiracy theories they think are false, they are willing to stand back and ridicule the theorists. Obama Birthers, 9/11 Truthers, Boston Bombing hoax, Sandy Hook . all certainly called false and ridiculed, but that's all. I don't think I've ever seen them try to squelch an entire line of discussion from the start like this before, even threatening lawsuits and prosecution.

Kirt , December 7, 2016 at 12:16 am GMT \n
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There may be something to pizzagate but I'm very skeptical of accusations of widespread institutional pedophilia. I initially fell for the "Satanic panic" of the 1980s; I learned my lesson.
I see that this case relies a lot on cryptic symbols. Reminds me of the people who see swastikas and white supremacy runes wherever they look and try to make a case for a vast neo-Nazi underground. But the author states that 470,000 children "disappear" each year in the US alone. Really? The link goes to "reported missing" which is a whole different thing. I once reported one of my kids missing; he turned up shortly afterwards at a friend's house. He hadn't even run away, just overstayed and not informed us where he was. That sort of thing happens all the time, but genuine disappearances? I don't know of a single case and I know plenty of people with kids. In some third world country in a war, tens of thousands of missing kids might be believable, but even in most such countries (Syria for example) 470,000 disappearances per year would be a stretch.

TelfoedJohn , December 7, 2016 at 12:23 am GMT \n
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In the U.K., all the abuse took place by people in power. Catholic clergy over choirboys. Celebs over their fans. Pakistanis targeted girls from broken homes. The wealthy and 'noble' preyed on the lesser born.

The worst though are the politicians, who have maximum power. I'm not sure I believe the pizzagate thing – the evidence is not conclusive (show me a victim or witness). But I certainly believe it is possible.

Cortes , December 7, 2016 at 12:44 am GMT \n

The reliably excellent John Helmer provides an oblique reference to Pizzagate in the following linked piece about Propornot and its marvellous 200 Putin Stoogesites:

http://johnhelmer.net/?p=16851

Avery , December 7, 2016 at 12:49 am GMT \n
200 Words @utu "What 'relatively obscure charge'?" - Making payments in a manner hiding the detection of payments. Payments were not illegal but he was doing it in amounts below the amounts that automatically would require reporting. In my opinion he did nothing illegal. The crimes he allegedly committed were beyond the statute of limitation and paying hush money is not illegal either.

I kinda thought that's what you were referring to, but wanted to make sure.

His real crime was something else.

He was a high school coach years ago and was raping underage boys in his charge. The cash he was withdrawing was for payments to one of the boys to keep him quiet. If memory serves, another one of his victims had committed suicide (not sure though). But the one Hastert was paying off wanted to burn him.

In addition, Sibel Edwards, when she was working for the FBI and translating foreign language intercepts, picked up some conversations by Turkish officials, who were bribing Hastert, and claimed they "owned him". He reportedly got $500K, but not sure for what. FBI had courts put a gag order on Sibel, so she could not reveal any more details. The story was buried: probably because too many high ranking swine were involved.

Hastert pleaded guilty to a Mickey Mouse charge so that there would no public child-rape trial, where the public might learn all the lurid details of what the filthy swine did to those underage boys.

Hastert got away with destroying the lives of many boys.
Hopefully he will be savagely beaten and crippled in prison – but not killed – so he can suffer for years.

Johnny Smoggins , December 7, 2016 at 2:19 am GMT \n
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Like a lot of people I have gone from completely ignoring this story, thinking it was Alex Jones type fantasy to starting to wonder if there might not be some truth to it after all. So far I haven't seen any definitive evidence that kids are actually being molested, or worse. And because the accusations are so damning I would want to be very cautious about casually tossing them around.

That being said, a lot of the stuff that's surfaced; the artwork, the cryptic messages, Spirit cooking, the odd choices of entertainment for a family friendly pizza restaurant and the Instagram pictures are just flat out creepy .

Even with a presumption of innocence I wouldn't allow anyone under the age of 18 anywhere near the Podesta brothers, Alefantis and everyone else involved without adult supervision.

I'm glad Unz has decided to publish this. I'm interested to see if anything more will come of it. It certainly warrants further investigation.

James Kabala , December 7, 2016 at 3:04 am GMT \n
@DanC Rotate the old logo for Besta Pizza 180 degrees. It is the pedophile BLogo symbol.

That's why when it got publicised, Besta's management immediately deleted the old one and converted to a new, BLogo-free symbol on all their website and printed materials.

What is interesting to note in mainstream media "debunkings" of PizzaGate is that they focus on the doubtful evidence, things that could be "interpreted either way" and they leave out the glaringly obvious pedophilia links, like the Besta Pizza logo.

Just look at all the "debunking articles." Do any of them mention the old Besta logo? I haven't seen any.

It seems to me this is the way to wean the public off the mainstream media. Hammer on the fact that the MSM insists on leaving out the clear, obvious evidence and tries to imply that everything is doubtful and open to interpretation. Then people will start to associate them with coverup and BS. The MSM can't recover from that.

Actually the logo issue is a prominent part of this Washington Post article (and a tweet by the fairly well-known Dave Weigel highlighted that part in particular):

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/were-going-to-put-a-bullet-in-your-head-pizzagate-threats-terrorize-dc-shop-owners/2016/12/05/39469a82-bb2e-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?utm_term=.af2e34c09164

pepperinmono , December 7, 2016 at 3:48 am GMT \n
100 Words @Johnny Smoggins Like a lot of people I have gone from completely ignoring this story, thinking it was Alex Jones type fantasy to starting to wonder if there might not be some truth to it after all. So far I haven't seen any definitive evidence that kids are actually being molested, or worse. And because the accusations are so damning I would want to be very cautious about casually tossing them around.

That being said, a lot of the stuff that's surfaced; the artwork, the cryptic messages, Spirit cooking, the odd choices of entertainment for a family friendly pizza restaurant and the Instagram pictures are just flat out creepy .

Even with a presumption of innocence I wouldn't allow anyone under the age of 18 anywhere near the Podesta brothers, Alefantis and everyone else involved without adult supervision.

I'm glad Unz has decided to publish this. I'm interested to see if anything more will come of it. It certainly warrants further investigation.

pepperinmono , December 7, 2016 at 3:48 am GMT \n
100 Words @Johnny Smogg

Podesta is a creepy fuck period.
How did such a dweeb get to be such a big person in our national conversation?
He is an obvious hack , but not a particular clever one. He just comes off so "are you fucking kidding me?". Where do they get these dudes? James Carville. Paul Begala. Bill Burton. Robby Mook. Even right has George Will, Buckley. Strange unnormal people.

utu , December 7, 2016 at 3:48 am GMT \n
@for-the-record See, for example,

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-24513267

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/10377714/Madeleine-McCann-E-fit-suspect-was-carrying-child-police-reveal.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Efit_images_of_Madeleine_McCann_suspect.jpg

http://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/top-news/podesta-brothers-revealed/

Tulip , December 7, 2016 at 4:23 am GMT \n
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I confess I don't get it. I can understand pizzagate as a brutal and nasty last minute campaign tactic, but the election is over, drop it. A mighty tissue of "coincidences" woven together in a manner that would make Glenn Beck envious. I guess I need to fashion a tin foil hat and then re-read the article. I think it just discredits the source more than the target.

If someone is actually raping children, then where are the children? The kids related to the socialite that she is bringing to a pool party? Come on, that is what plebes are for. How are the children procured? Where do they live? There is necessarily logistics to this kind of activity, and zero evidence of logistics, just some weird emails and weird art. Its like saying someone is a coke head because they had a runny nose. tweet at early hours in the morning, and behave very alpha.

Anon , December 7, 2016 at 4:45 am GMT \n

In the 70s, I hear that NY pizzerias were fronts for narcotics dealers.

Are they now used by pedo-dealers?

I love pizza, but this issue is making me feel a bit icky about it.

Anon , December 7, 2016 at 5:02 am GMT \n
500 Words @Anonymous "Every aspect of British society seems to have ties to pedophilia, from Parliament, to the elites, the City of London, the government, public schools, Oxbridge, the universities, all the way down to Paki immigrant communities and even British soccer."

Why do pedos gain such power? Same reason why homos do? Since many of them don't have families and since they resent the Normal World(from which they must hide their deviance or sickness), do they have extra time/energy for gaining power? Are they fueled by resentment toward Normal Society? It seems like homos had a kind of revenge streak, and it all came out with New Normal. Homos really want to rub our faces in their feces. They want to force us to accept the New Normal or be totally destroyed. They want to turn us into their bitches. They are into Bitch-Hunting.

Working in the shadows, homos and pedos seemed to gained considerable power. And since they are associated with Vice Industry, they have the dirt on everyone else and can blackmail them. Bill Clinton prolly never had sex with a minor, but surely homos and pedos have a lot of dirt on him about his many affairs and orgies. And since they have many connections, they serve as essential middlemen for those who seek power.

Also, there is a code of silence among the powerful. They watch out for one another. And homos and pedos are both pushy and gushy. They are very demanding but also accommodating and supportive of the powerful and ambitious. They go all out to serve the powerful and those on the up-and-up, but they also demand a cut of the pie.

The ambitious care most about power and privilege than about right and wrong. If their power depends on a coterie of people committed to them 24/7, they will look the other way even when they know something is up. Also, there is the human factor. People who work together closely develop an emotional bond. It's team politics, us vs them. And loyalty must be favored.
Since homos and pedos have more time on their hands and more energy(fueled by resentment), they might be more available to the powerful or those who seek power.

Hollywood made the media the hero in the movie SPOTLIGHT. But the media seem eager to bury this as fast as possible.

Why did it take so long for the Hastert and Sandusky cases to come to light?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Sandusky

How did they get away with that stuff forever?

Is it a good idea to allow homos into Boy Scouts?

Homos seem to be closely allied with pedos, and the trajectory of our culture is to normalize pedophilia by sexualizing young girls and boys. If young ones are sexualized, it means they can be objects of sexual desire. And then what?

And the scientific community is arguing pedophilia should be treated as a condition than a crime. This may be legit as long as pedos didn't act on their impulses. But if they did, how can it not be a crime?

Rape is 'natural' too given that sexual feelings are natural. But we can't treat rape itself as a condition and not a crime.

Wizard of Oz , December 7, 2016 at 5:48 am GMT \n
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Regrettably, though one may have grown old without ever feeling the wish to have sexual contact with a pre-adolescent or of anyone of the same sex it hasn't been possible for a long time to deny the prevalence of socially disapproved sex drives and behaviours. So one finds that the nice young presenter on the antique show has been arrested for downloading and keeping pedophile images. And so on But isn't the idea of a large network, and what is needed to keep it covered up, a bit much to swallow? Nasty minds? Conspiracy theories?

Well I suppose not. Sex as a drive and the perverse varieties of expression that we know to manifest themselves are enough to make one accept the pedophile reality. Then the network and the cover up? The cover up, however difficult to make it reliable, is just a consequence of the danger their behaviour exposes them to. And the network? Easy enough to explain once you are in it – like knowing that you could attend mass in a number of aristocratic Elizabethan households. But the detail of why and how it should grow from a very small group is obviously more complex. I guess that there are organisers and facilitators who seek various rewards, some financial, some in young flesh, some in the obtaining of blackmailing power.

NoseytheDuke , December 7, 2016 at 6:07 am GMT \n
100 Words @utu

It's the age difference and the power equation that matters. If a fifteen year old is sexting a thirteen year old it's quite different than a grown man like Anthony Wiener. I couldn't blame any father who administered a sound beating to an adult creep who was sexting a minor. What kind of a society doesn't protect children?

Anon , December 7, 2016 at 6:28 am GMT \n
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MSM is so eager to kill this story but tried so hard to keep alive the UVA hoax.

Even after it became clear that the whole thing had been made up, NY Times pretended that it wasn't sure.

But then, look at our political culture.

Say nothing of Israel's 200 nukes but never stop bitching about Iran's non-existing nukes.

And even though the West is the aggressor, blame Russia.

Yellow Cake and WMD. Colin Powell's lies and MSM's collusion.

Silence about black thuggery but pretend innocent blacks are murdered by evil white cops.

A real inversion of truth and lies.

Lugenpresse calling its detractors 'fake news'.

Shimshon , December 7, 2016 at 7:30 am GMT \n
100 Words @Tulip

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First, the emails are not just weird. Second, regarding this:

"There is necessarily logistics to this kind of activity, and zero evidence of logistics "

Actually, there is.

Jeffrey Epstein, the Lolita Express, and his pedophile island. This was obviously covered up.

The Pizzagaters have shed a tiny bit of light on Laura Silsby. Look her up.

Anonymous Nephew , December 7, 2016 at 8:25 am GMT \n
100 Words @Tim Howells

"IMO this is yet another Jimmy Savile case: i.e. literally Satanic pedophilia on a vast scale, with the active collusion of our political and media elites"

Savile case wasn't that at all – more like famous DJ/charity fundraiser with great PR taking advantage of his status with teenage girls. How many of the post-death allegations are true, who knows, but we know some definitely aren't true – we know because long-time blogger Anna Raccoon was a resident of a small children's home where Savile was claimed to have abused girls. She has a whole series of seven posts called "Past Lives and Present Misgivings" on the allegations.

http://annaraccoon.com/2012/10/24/past-lives-and-present-misgivings-part-four/

More "active collusion" is likely in the cases of Cyril Smith and Greville Janner, two pretty high-profile and connected MPs, who seem to have managed to go to their graves scot free.

Blado , December 7, 2016 at 9:21 am GMT \n
@Miro23

The idea of on-camera child rape as a prerequisite of entry into organizations/guarantee of cooperation is a pretty old one. It's no doubt been done.

Skeptikal , December 7, 2016 at 1:58 pm GMT \n
100 Words @Anonymous

How the "fake news" trope works in the real world:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/07/trump-adviser-son-michael-flynn-sacked-pizzagate-comet-ping-pong-restaurant

Flynn's tweet regarding this story was perfectly reasonable.
The story has been stamped "bogus" without any kind of investigation.
No response to questions about the weird content of emails by Podesta and others.
Stonewalling.
Makes one think the shotgun blast at Comet might even have been a false flag!!

PI , December 7, 2016 at 2:00 pm GMT \n

For those wondering about the authenticity of the FBI document, here is the wikileaks page where it was revealed in 2007 and they say "Wikileaks has verified the document":

https://wikileaks.org/wiki/FBI_pedophile_symbols

And here is a MSM article about it:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3560069/The-symbols-pedophiles-use-signal-sordid-sexual-preferences-social-media.html

BB753 , December 7, 2016 at 4:17 pm GMT \n
200 Words @Anonymous

I remember watching an excellent Australian film years ago that covered this very topic. It portrayed in a very realistic way the whole homo/ pedo underground in the upper rungs of society, from posh public schools to university, where grooming of youngsters occurred, to Parliament and Finance, where the powerful pederasts/homosexuals ruled. In this world, the shortest way to power and riches for a young man was to seek out the protection and guidance of an older and powerful homo/pederast lover. It was shot in Australia and in Australian settings and institutions, but it's all so British you'd think the film makers really intended the story to reflect British society and were using Australia as a legal cover.
Sorry, I can't remember the title of the movie or the director. It was quite disturbing to watch but very interesting.
Perhaps Pat Hannagan or some other knowledgeable Australian reader can help.

Anon , December 7, 2016 at 8:01 pm GMT \n
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Let's say there was no pedo-ring. I'm rather skeptical of it myself.

But just look at that pizzeria. What kind of freako place is that?

And why are some of the 'most powerful' people in DC such downright perverts and degenerates?

The fish rots from the head. Degenerates run government, institutions, and culture.

Government and judges push homo agenda. College push porn and 50 genders. Hollywood pushes drugs and tattoos. Disney turns girls into whores.

And this isn't just a 'left' vs 'right' problem. A lot of Trump voters were ass-tattoo freaks. The working class grew up on Jerry Springer, WWE, mentally deranged metal music, or Goth freakery.

And middle class kids grew up on the nerdy black magic of Harry Potter whose teacher is a happy ass-man.

Whether it's elites and their Pervert Pizza or the underclass with their degeneracy, it's ugly all around.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4006300/Filth-chaos-weird-religious-symbols-Pictures-appalling-conditions-inside-Oakland-warehouse-36-died.html

We need Vito-Corleonism.

This is how a man should be:

https://youtu.be/IeDV0rxBq9E?t=1m35s

Anon , December 7, 2016 at 8:29 pm GMT \n
300 Words @map

I'm not sold on the pedo-ring. Too much risk, though I think those 'elites' are a bunch of pervs.

If anything, this pedo-issue takes our eyes off the ball.

The real issue should be that the governing elites of this nation in government, colleges, cultural institutions, media and even military(look at those tranny freaks) are a bunch of decadents, even degenerates. We are seeing the normalization of freakery and grossness.

The fact that it is considered NORMAL for Hillary to invite Lena Dunham to the DNC speaks for itself. The fact that Newsweek celebrated Obama with a gay 'halo' speaks for itself. The fact that churches hang 'homo flags' speaks for itself.
It is a sick nation.

A tolerant nation has room for decadence and even degeneracy. It belongs in the underground. They always existed.
But now, this underground stuff is the bobo cultural fixation of the elites who consider themselves 'hip' and 'edgy'.
And they even introduce their kids to this stuff from a young age.
Indeed, even without overt pedophilia, introducing sexuality to kids at a very young age is a kind of indirect pedophilia.
When homo-ness is promoted among kids, what is being done? Kids will ask 'what is homo stuff?' And an honest answer will have to be, "some guys wanna stick pee pee into poo poo". But then, the kids will have to be told THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT, and if anything, WE SHOULD BLESS THE HOMOS. But why? What is so great about pee pee in poo poo?

We really need Culturegate. The whole culture is a rotten scandal, and the fact that US globo-imperialism spreads this filth around the world speaks volumes about how sick America has become. We don't need real pedo-rings of 'pizzagate' to accuse the elites of filth and vileness. Their cultural life is garbage.

Just look at this: 'mainstream' culture has no problem with it. If anything, it is promoted as the New Norm.

http://rare.us/story/lena-dunham-posts-picture-of-herself-on-the-crapper-before-declaring-herself-a-feminist-hero/

Anon , December 7, 2016 at 9:01 pm GMT \n
@Pablo

As John Helmer points out, the new digital news business model doesn't provide any funds for investigative journalism.
So who is going to pay for a serious journalist to do the legwork and paperwork and FOIA requests, etc.?

Skeptikal , December 7, 2016 at 9:20 pm GMT \n
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Re "And why are some of the 'most powerful' people in DC such downright perverts and degenerates? "

I thought you were going to say:
What are the most powerful people in DC doing hanging out at this creepy pizza parlor and doing fundraising events there?
We all know where Hillary goes for "real" money: The Saudis, Goldman Sachs, billionaires' glitzy summer compounds in the Hamptons, places like that-you know, where the money is.
So WTF is she doing in one of these pizza joints? Why would there be any real money there?
With creepy, tawdry "artwork" on the walls?
Something here does not pass the smell test.

Tim Howells , December 7, 2016 at 9:43 pm GMT \n
100 Words @Anonymous Nephew

I'm intrigued by the Anna Racoon stuff, but I found it completely incoherent. Could you explain what these claims are, and why they should be taken seriously?

Re Sir Savile and Satanic child sex abuse, at least two victims gave entirely credible and consistent accounts. Here's a mainstream source:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/370439/Jimmy-Savile-was-part-of-satanic-ring

NoseytheDuke , December 7, 2016 at 11:36 pm GMT \n
100 Words @Skeptikal

Agreed. Often one wonders why such outrageous decisions are made in politics that clearly contradict the public good and one wonders, why? This topic goes a long way to explaining the why. I'm not so sure if the investigating of it is the hard part or the broad exposure, but it needs to happen.

I am probably more tolerant of 'deviates' than most on here. Queers don't bother me much, though I would recommend that they be more discreet and stop the promotion of their peccadilloes as normal. When it comes to children, even teenagers, I am very strict about them not being able to give consent and should be treated with respect, if not revered, by all adults with no exceptions.

There is enough smoke here for a thorough investigation to be demanded and carried out. I hope nothing less ensues.

Stonehands , December 8, 2016 at 4:52 am GMT \n
100 Words @Anon

The fact that it is considered NORMAL for Hillary to invite Lena Dunham to the DNC speaks for itself. The fact that Newsweek celebrated Obama with a gay 'halo' speaks for itself. The fact that churches hang 'homo flags' speaks for itself.
It is a sick nation.

Yep. I don't have to look any further then this perv Alefantis. This is what you get when sodomy is legal. Of course this craven bastard makes all kinds of snarky degenerate comments about children on his instagram

Society has been desensitized to homosexuality- so they have moved on to the "prize".

You have hit it out of the park as usual, I enjoy and concur with your assesments.

glorietalabs , December 8, 2016 at 12:51 pm GMT \n
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I believe I saw the instagram account of Alefantis before it came down. The girl pictured in several images seems to be the child of a family friend. I thought the taped to the table image and the other pic with #chickenlover tag were at a minimum indicators of a dark humor or innuendo. Who finds this sort of thing funny?
There were more pics of infants and a doll with creepy tags like #hoetard and suggestive comments, again, indicating a level of casual comfort with making implied references to pedophilia. ..wink wink.

Gross, at a minimum. But evidence of a ring? I don't understand why Alefantis doesn't just acknowledge that there is an "appearance" of sick humor.

Regarding the use of supposedly known pedo symbols- I'm skeptical. These are shapes and motifs we see everywhere. It could be that the pedo symbol inventors purposely chose designs that would easily coincide with innocent use so as to hide in plain sight. Or hmm ?

Podesta is definitely using code in his emails but my read was that he's talking about drugs and partying. Didn't we all use "pizza" at one time or another as a reference to party favors back in the day?

The Podestas have bad taste in art. Not a crime, just a general indicator of regular degenerately "hip" tastes so as to impress the cool kids?

And yet no one clears the air. And this is disturbing. I have yet to read one Wapo or nyt article denouncing the "witch hunt" but acknowledging that, yes, it looks bad. Because it really does.

Incidentally, if they haven't been faked, one of Alefantis' instagram commenters is the maker of child sized coffin coffee tables. Nice.

par4 , December 8, 2016 at 4:54 pm GMT \n

Here is the Judge rebuking serial molester Hastert (R) before sentencing.

The Scalpel , Website December 8, 2016 at 7:42 pm GMT \n
100 Words @Sandy Berger's Socks

"What if criminal deviancy rather than disqualifying a person, is not instead some weird prerequisite for elite status? Don't have to worry about rock throwers if they're inside the same glass house.Blackmail seems as good an explanation as any for things like John Roberts sudden change of heart on the constitutionality of the Obama care mandate."

This fits Occam's Razor. I would go so far as to say that pedophilia blackmail appears to have been a method of political control since the days of the British Empire. Much like gang membership, participation is required for entrance into the inner circles of political power, then used as blackmail to enforce conformity and secrecy.

Interestingly, there is a recent episode of "The Black Mirror," a Netflix show, that addresses this very psychology.

FKA Max , December 9, 2016 at 5:11 pm GMT \n
300 Words @FKA Max

There is a rather informative article in the WaPo about Pizzagate and its potential (mass-)psychological origins. It actually indirectly and temporarily "blames" over-zealous feminists with being the originators of the this moral panic. Quite interesting, but of course the article/author reverts back to Trump-bashing, etc. in the end.

What the Pizzagate conspiracy theory borrows from a bogus satanic sex panic of the 1980s

Second, in both cases, social movements were involved in the weaponization of suspicion, although the political center of gravity has shifted from one episode to the next. In the late 1970s, social workers and feminist activists had focused on combating child sexual abuse; they sometimes developed extremely broad definitions of abuse or floated exaggerated estimates of its occurrence in this quest. Such efforts have left deep cultural residues, and these include the acceptance of exaggerated claims about the number of child trafficking victims, and the incidence and forms of organized child sexual abuse. Pizzagate relies on these inflated fears to seem plausible, and it similarly relies on a viewpoint marked by extreme suspicion (of the media, Washington "elites," politicians and the Clinton camp specifically) to decode ordinary events and statements into extraordinary claims.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/12/08/the-satanic-roots-of-pizzagate-how-a-30-year-old-sex-panic-explains-today/

A moral panic is a feeling of fear spread among a large number of people that some evil threatens the well-being of society.[1][2] A Dictionary of Sociology defines a moral panic as "the process of arousing social concern over an issue – usually the work of moral entrepreneurs and the mass media."[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_panic

I had never come across the term "moral entrepreneur" before, very useful term https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_entrepreneur

Stonehands , December 9, 2016 at 8:50 pm GMT \n
100 Words @FKA Max

We know all about "Hysteria", but why did the artist use a decapitated male if not to possibly conflate this in the viewers mind with the atrocities of Dalmer?

What about the other degenerate art, such as the child bondage spankees posing in the easy- to -clean tiled torture chambers?

Some of us will never accept homosexuality as an "alternative" lifestyle.

The fact that Alefantis is a homo; who by dint of his perverse sexuality- has achieved some level of notoriety prior to pizzagate- is certainly part of the underlying rancor towards him.

NoseytheDuke , December 9, 2016 at 11:01 pm GMT \n
100 Words @FKA Max

Incredibly generous of you to quote WaPo as a credible source. I would have done the same at one time but that was ages ago.

BB753 asks why haven't the Posdestas sued? I would ask why haven't they at the very least stepped forward to offer a simple explanation for what most agree is code in the emails?

I would suggest a possibility that blowing the lid off on this exposes exactly how certain "lobby" groups maintain control of the wheelhouse of the US ship of state, and have consistently steered it into troubled waters against the national interest.

Wiz, a simple typo that my computer ran with (very observant of you).

anonymous , December 9, 2016 at 10:02 pm GMT \n
@FKA Max

This clip of Brietbart going off on John Podesta seemed to me more than just a political squabble.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgBvPx4CvhI

Keep in mind, this was years before the Wikileaks 'Pizza' stuff. Also keep in mind that Breitbard dropped dead shortly after this was filmed.

Anonymous , December 10, 2016 at 3:17 am GMT \n
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Pizzagate is not "fake news" at all. It needs to be investigated.

The MSM says it does not disseminate "fake news". However, the MSM will often simply not cover events that ARE real news.

Thus, the MSM is disseminating the opposite of "fake news", namely NO NEWS. The MSM keeps people in the dark because there things that it does not want people to know about. For example, the MSM will often not cover stories about how the LGBTQ movement is brainwashing kids in even the lowest grade in public elementary schools. That's because the MSM does not want people to become upset at the penetration (no pun intended) of the LGBTQ agenda.

In reality, there is relatively little "fake news" out there. Most alternative websites that people visit, such as Unz, simply provide a different perspective on issues that the MSM won't cover at all, or cover in a cursory manner.

Skeptikal , December 10, 2016 at 2:35 pm GMT \n

Agreed.
And the "fake news" trope is an excellent example of misdirection/laying a false trail.

NoseytheDuke , December 10, 2016 at 9:49 pm GMT \n
100 Words @Jus' Sayin'...

Classic disinfo technique, to seed the truth with a few lies that are provably false so that then the whole thing can be claimed to be false and written off.

I don't know about the Podestas but as others here have rightly stated, there's enough smoke for a thorough, open investigation.

Coincidently, the anti-Russian rhetoric has escalated to an even more absurd degree alongside the Pizzagate news. I wonder if the result will be even less people believing the blatant lies of mass media or if people will just demonstrate that there are no limits to gullibility.

anonymous , December 11, 2016 at 5:31 am GMT \n
100 Words @NoseytheDuke

I saw a headline on CNN.com claiming Russia was attempting to smear people by 'planting' child pornography on their computers.

I didn't bother reading it, as CNN is a Gawker level news source these days, but it seems like they may attempt to blame this stuff on Russia – along with everything else.

Mark Green , Website December 11, 2016 at 7:41 am GMT \n

Here's another sex scandal (and a certifiably real one) involving a prominent Canadian who turned out to be a pedaphile. There's a lot in this story that's revealing and fascinating.

http://torontolife.com/city/ben-levin-child-pornography-sting/

Skeptikal , December 11, 2016 at 2:33 pm GMT \n
500 Words @Mark Green

Such a disturbing story. But instructive. In particular the information, or perhaps it is a speculation, that the pedophiliac sexual drive develops early on. This drive must be incredibly strong-stronger than what would be considered normal sexual desire? I don't know. But I have read that it is so strong that pedophiles make major life choices in terms of finding a way to get access to children to use sexually. Such as marrying: so they can father their own children and have them handy for abuse. Or entering a profession, such as the priesthood, or pediatrics, or education, etc. so that they have access to children. Or becoming sports coaches, where they spend a lot of time in locker rooms and also have blandishments to offer young boys such as sports career advances. Etc.

I think this point-the power of the drive-should be taken into account when people such as some commenters on this thread say: "These people [such as Podesta} are too intelligent to risk their careers blah blah." If the pedophilia drive is as strong as, say, a heroin addiction, then the addiction is in the driver's seat, not "intelligence." The more you feed an addiction, the stronger it gets, and the more stimulation it takes to get the charge.

As for the sprinkling of a few lies in with a story that is targeted for debunking: In a normal police investigation the police solicit leads from the public. (It is true that in this case there is not an obvious victim, so that must also be taken into account; but this was also the situation with the Ben Levin [Toronto] case; nevertheless what he did was criminal and dangerous.) They examine the leads and follow them up. This is detectives' job.

Often an obscure lead does lead to further useful information needed to build a hypothesis of the motive-means-opportunity for the crime and widen the scope of an investigation. Every American with a TV set has seen hundred of such police procedurals showing how crimes have been solved, often cold cases. Bona fide detectives who get leads from the public don't immediately start to smear the source of leads as looney-tunes. In this case the public, in the face of apparent inaction by law enforcement to follow up on this case, is responding by posting ideas and hypotheses and possible leads.

An honest law enforcement agency would be conducting an aggressive investigation and checking out any useful info and ideas that members of the public come up with, whether online or off. Honest news outlets should either be calling for a thorough investigation, or staying mum if they have been informed that an investigation is ongoing. The fact that the MSM, absent any sign of an investigation, are blaring out the "nothing here; move on; blogger are rabid fools" message is in itself suspicious and suggests that someone is being protected. The MSM have put out just enough info to warn the possible wrongdoers to get their act together, change their signage, and run for cover.

Miro23 , December 11, 2016 at 4:40 pm GMT \n
100 Words @Skeptikal

The fact that the MSM, absent any sign of an investigation, are blaring out the "nothing here; move on; blogger are rabid fools" message is in itself suspicious and suggests that someone is being protected. The MSM have put out just enough info to warn the possible wrongdoers to get their act together, change their signage, and run for cover.

My feeling exactly. Too much volume, no doubts, too orchestrated and nothing being investigated, in fact just like WMD, and 9/11.

Anon , December 11, 2016 at 5:23 pm GMT \n

Ping Pong Comet Pizza should rename itself as Suck-E-Cheese.

Btw, more pedo stuff.

https://www.rt.com/news/367652-norway-pedophiles-arrested-scandal/

Media seem less enthused about going after secular pedos, just like rabbi pedos got less public scrutiny than the Catholic pedo priests did.

Intelligent Dasein , Website December 11, 2016 at 6:07 pm GMT \n
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I believe that Pizzagate is a Trojan Horse being pushed into Alt-Right internet circles by Hillary/Soros' former CTR trolls in order to help the Democrats and the MSM continue to flog the "fake news" narrative. The idea behind it is to enable them to say, "Look, you see what kind of crazy conspiracies those Alt-Righters consume and repeat amongst themselves? This is the kind of fake news believing nutjobs we're up against." If you think back upon the history of the meme (I hate that word, but I have no other to use in its place), you'll find that its original and most vocal proponents were exhibiting clear trolling behavior. Given their flaky commenting histories, their pretended expertise on this then-obscure topic, their ostentatious expressions of optimism that this breaking news would ensure a Trump victory (itself a rather obsequious and scarcely believable attempt to paint themselves as one of our number), and their single-minded determination to talk about (and to get us talking about) nothing else, one can only suspect the presence of some sort of agenda behind their sudden exuberance over Pizzagate.

I believe we are up against a new and rather sophisticated sort of Concern Troll here-a veritable Stuxnet of concern trolling. A perfect example here at the Unz Review is the poster "anonguy". Look at his commenting history. Look at the sudden acceleration of his offerings as Election Day neared. And then look at his militant megaphoning of the Pizzagate narrative all over Sailer's blog in the days immediately preceding the election. Furthermore, pay attention to his unusual style, i.e. how he structures his comments as detached musings about the goings-on in the "infosphere" (his word), how he jejunely assures us the "the narrative is forming" (yes, he actually said that, and at a time when there was no narrative to speak of), and his links to literally fake news sites (the Denver Guardian? Give me a break). Now tell me that this is the behavior of someone who actually has the health of the body politic as his primary objective.

Now, after having sifted all that, do try to remember that the larger general public really doesn't know or care anything at all about Pizzagate, and that the leaked Podesta emails (all 37,000 of them, or whatever the final tally was) influenced the vote of precisely no one who did not have the time or inclination to read through them all, which is practically every one of us. Remember that the only people talking about this in the first place are the Alt-Right bloggers and their followers, the very venues of "fake news" whom the Left is attempting to discredit and sully. Remember that the Clintons and Soros specialize in public deception and that they employ all sorts of people for that very purpose. Now consider who is rendered vulnerable by all of this. It isn't going to be the Clintons or Podesta. If Hillary Clinton was not prosecuted for trafficking in state secrets from her private server-a crime for which she should have been executed- then Podesta is not going to be investigated for this. But you all, on the other hand, have been tainted with it. You have been successfully associated in the public mind with a "conspiracy theory," with the "fake news."

My conclusion: Pizzagate is a "thought worm" designed to infect, distract, and destroy the Alt-Right, and most of you have been infected with it. This is not to say that there is no pedophilia going on in Podesta's circle. There may be or there may not be, I really don't know. The point is that there isn't anything you can do about it. The accusations will be turned against the accusers instead-classic Clinton behavior. It would be better not to take the bait anymore. Recent history has demonstrated over and over again that the public is not going to rise up with one voice and clamor for the punishment even of credibly accused child molesters unless there is something more to be gained from doing so, and in this case there clearly isn't. What this says about the spiritual state of the modern West or the psychology of fallen mankind are subjects I will leave for another discussion. For now it is simply a fact of life with which we have to account. The only way to beat these people is the Chicago Way: hit them harder than they hit you. We dealt them a stunning blow by electing Donald Trump, but now we are in danger of losing our advantage by immersing ourselves in a mire of toothless recriminations, and this is exactly what they want. Let's not fall for this again; let us rather rekindle the spirit that got us this far, and take these vile people down once and for all.

robt , December 11, 2016 at 6:28 pm GMT \n
@Anon

The Washington Post found the funds to assign 27 investigative reporters for over a year to dig dirt on Trump, and bragged about it. Judging by what they came up with, it wasn't too fruitful.

map , December 11, 2016 at 8:50 pm GMT \n
100 Words @Intelligent Dasein

Your comment is ridiculous.

First you say the entire pizzagate meme is fake and it's fakery will undo the alt-right. Then you say that you can't do anything about pedophilia anyway, pizzagate or otherwise.

Which is it? Is the story fake and thereby discrediting to those who support it, or is it real but pointless to cover because you can't do anything about it?

Then you suggest we do this "the Chicago way" which is hitting harder than them whatever that means. If you are not going to open investigations against these people, then what does "hitting harder" entail?

There is no way that Soros or anyone else is going to construct an elaborate criminal conspiracy out of whole cloth and tag one of his own loyal operatives.

Skeptikal , December 11, 2016 at 9:55 pm GMT \n
100 Words @map

I agree.
Intelligent's comment looks to me like an elaborate misdirection.
All such blah blah gets no one any closer to an answer as to what is behind the coded language in the Wikileaks emails.

It is a classic example of throwing up a convolution of dust to obscure the smoking emails.
Stick to the evidence.
Ignore irrelevant baroque musings.

NoseytheDuke , December 11, 2016 at 11:45 pm GMT \n
300 Words @Intelligent Dasein

You make some good points but have missed the real issue entirely. Whilst I and many others here DO care about pedos and want them locked away from society, what makes this matter much more important is that it involves many top level power brokers in politics.

Pedophilia is more of a compulsion rather than addiction, why matters less than the fact that recidivism is the norm and society deserves protection both from the crime itself and from the crimes of blackmail that can result from knowledge of it..

Blackmail is a very powerful tool in the work of pure evil and is the reason why even Marines and Embassy guards have restrictions on who they may or may not consort with whilst on active foreign postings. I would estimate that there is no greater threat of exposure than one of sexually exploiting children. Even hardened criminals have contempt for such perverts who are usually granted special protection when incarcerated.

I would venture the suggestion that people with a compulsion towards sexual contact with children are identified early in their careers and consequently put forward for rapid progress within government institutions by those working behind the scene to exercise control over others with decision making capacity in the highest levels of government.

This is not a matter to be swept away if the swamp is to be drained, rather, this may well be where the "plughole" to the swamp itself is to be uncovered. It will require a special investigation team but not one like the Warren Commission or 9/11 "Investigation", a real investigation. Americans should settle for nothing less and it is incumbent of them to demand it.

Erebus , December 12, 2016 at 11:07 am GMT \n
100 Words @NoseytheDuke

This is not a matter to be swept away if the swamp is to be drained, rather, this may well be where the "plughole" to the swamp itself is to be uncovered.

I'm willing to believe something pretty sordid is required to keep the bung hole as tightly plugged as it is and I can't imagine anything else creating a more tightly woven, impenetrable web of mutual blackmail. Imagine what they have on each other, and imagine what foreign intelligence services could do with same if they got hold of it. Come to think of it, maybe they have

America must get to the bung, dislodge it and deal with the stench that will cover the country for a generation. Until then, America can't hope to be great again.

Skeptikal , December 12, 2016 at 12:51 pm GMT \n
100 Words @NoseytheDuke

This makes a lot of sense.
That string pullers are on the lookout for rising political stars who can be compromised along the way.
Hmmmmm . . .
Seems like a lot of political families have dynastic aspirations. That would mean that such offspring might be natural targets for monitoring for any "quirks."

Ace , December 16, 2016 at 7:25 am GMT \n
100 Words @jacques sheete

Craig Spence's call boy business in Washington clearly involved high civilian and military officials. And Spence was able to take friends on midnight tours of the White House.

Spence's house was provided by the Japanese ruling party. The house they provided him had at least one bedroom wired for audio and video. I'm sure the Japanese didn't know that.

The Washington Times covered it for two or three weeks and it was never mentioned again.

Kids from Boys Town in Nebraska were allegedly used.

Unpack that and hope your hair doesn't turn white.

Skeptikal , December 17, 2016 at 1:37 pm GMT \n
100 Words @NoseytheDuke

"Nobody is suggesting a rush to judgement here but clearly a prompt and thorough investigation is called for especially given the supporting evidence, as other commenters have pointed out."

Really.
If the putative "circumstantial evidence" that Russia-no! Putin himself!!-interfered in the American election suffices to launch the CIA on a nutty investigation whose purpose is, obviously, to "prove" that this is the case to the satisfaction of enough electors for them to become "faithless," then I think the Pizzagate emails plus "circumstantial" Pizzagate evidence are by comparison much more compelling and really scream for an investigation. In the Pizzagate case the investigating agency would presumably be the FBI. Which *might* be grounds to expect a genuine investigation.

No reasonable person would think that the emails really are about Podesta's playing dominos and having cheese for dinner. quite apart from the fact that cheese is usually mixed in with pasta!! Come on. I bet Podesta doesn't know how to play the game of dominos. What are these people really emailing about?

BB753 , December 18, 2016 at 1:35 pm GMT \n
@NoseytheDuke

The Podestas' silence about the leaks seems pretty damning in itself. Silence is an admission of guilt.

Eagle Eye , December 22, 2016 at 5:56 am GMT \n
100 Words @Sunbeam

For U.S. readers to gauge whether something like this COULD be happening in an advanced country, look to other countries where such incidents ARE known to have happened.

In Belgium, the Marc DUTROUX scandal led to political consequences and appears to be ongoing.

In the UK, the claims against Ted Heath and Cyril Smith (see picture of both in article linked below) are broadly seen as having at least some factual basis, and were reported in a number of newspapers including the Independent, the Guardian and the Daily Mail (see link below). Other names were rumored about.

There were also years of investigations and cover-ups involving various orphanages such as KINCORA (in Northern Ireland) and HAUTE GARENNE (on the Isle of Jersey). Both were conveniently located in somewhat remote locations outside the direct reach of English law.

There were also extensive rumors regarding several locations in London. Investigations were accompanied by the usual fortuitous deaths of potential witnesses, mysterious disappearance of documents, etc.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3189951/A-vanished-file-troubling-claims-Heath-young-musicians-s-no-smoking-gun-week-shocking-headlines-Mail-s-unearthed-fresh-allegations.html

FKA Max , December 24, 2016 at 10:11 pm GMT \n
200 Words @FKA Max

Mr. Cassiel concludes his 3-part series of Pizzagate articles:

Precedents for Pizzagate
Aedon Cassiel Published: December 23, 2016

http://www.counter-currents.com/2016/12/precedents-for-pizzagate/

To reiterate a point that should be clear to the more astute reader, my goal in this series (part 1, part 2) has not been to defend "Pizzagate" as such. My goal has been to defend the people who want to investigate it against specific accusations levied against them by people who think Pizzagate has revealed no intriguing information at all-for a specific reason, which I will be honing in and focusing on much more directly in this closing entry.

Whereas the mainstream critics of Pizzagate would have you believe that the world is divided between paranoid conspiracy theorist followers of "fake news" and level-headed people who follow trustworthy news sources and rely on cold, hard reason to determine the truth, my goal has been to show that-whatever is or is not happening with Pizzagate itself-this framing of the issue is arrogant, insulting, and the product of extremely narrow tunnel vision. [...]

And if the media is telling you only about the most bizarre, reaching accusations without telling you any of the more interesting points that have been uncovered (which it is), it is not doing its proper job."

foolisholdman , December 27, 2016 at 9:45 pm GMT \n
100 Words @Sandy Berger's Socks

If in fact making all the "elite" blackmailable is the object of the exercise and at the same time being blackmailable is the requisite entry ticket to the elite, then not all the people taking part in all this sinister deviancy need be actual pedophiles! Some of them could be "merely" psychopaths furthering their careers. (Not that that makes them any better.)

If this story is what it appears to be – the tip of a very nasty and very large iceberg, then it could be the mechanism by which the "Deep State" keeps its control of the US government. That would make getting an investigation by official investigators going, very difficlt indeed.

Ron Unz , December 27, 2016 at 10:07 pm GMT \n
200 Words @foolisholdman

If in fact making all the "elite" blackmailable is the object of the exercise and at the same time being blackmailable is the requisite entry ticket to the elite, then not all the people taking part in all this sinister deviancy need be actual pedophiles! Some of them could be "merely" psychopaths furthering their careers.

Well, I don't really have anything to contribute to the "Pizzagate" discussion myself, except to say that some of the supposed evidence plus the behavior of the media makes me very, *very* suspicious.

However, here's a somewhat related paragraph from one of the articles I published a year or two ago:

An obvious problem with installing puppet rulers is the risk that they will attempt to cut their strings, much like Putin soon outmaneuvered and exiled his oligarch patron Boris Berezovsky. One means of minimizing such risk is to select puppets who are so deeply compromised that they can never break free, knowing that the political self-destruct charges buried deep within their pasts could easily be triggered if they sought independence.

I have sometimes joked with my friends that perhaps the best career move for an ambitious young politician would be to secretly commit some monstrous crime and then make sure that the hard evidence of his guilt ended up in the hands of certain powerful people, thereby assuring his rapid political rise.

http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-when-tokyo-rose-ran-for-president/

Junior , January 20, 2017 at 2:17 am GMT \n
1,100 Words

This is ALL about the child trafficing that the Clinton-Bush Foundation was doing in Haiti. It is the weakpoint in a global child trafficing network and it is why the Clinton-Bush Foundation has taken down their website and are attempting to cover up any traces of it as we speak. Trump knows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMJoNl2RHIU

Anyone who believes that it is ludicrous to think that pizzerias could be used for such nefarious operations, I 'd like to point out to you the case of "The French Connection" which later became known as "The Pizza Connection" in which a huge global network of pizzerias were being used to distribute drugs in the 1980′s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizza_Connection_Trial

Anyone who believes that the pedophile code is purely circumstantial needs to take a look at the Katy Perry video "This Is How We Do" which appears to be an homage to Comet Pizza. It is absolutely rife with the code words from the Podesta emails revealed by Pizzagate. They prance around with convicted sex offender, who plea bargained out of a child porn charge, Pee-Wee Herman( http://people.com/celebrity/pee-wee-actor-settles-kiddie-porn-case/ ) singing about "this is how they do" and "it's no big deal".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RMQksXpQSk

Here is a video "Kids" by the group MGMT. The quote at the beginning of the video is from the quintessential Satanist Nietzsche("Free spirits", by contrast to the philosophers of the past, are "investigators to the point of cruelty, with rash fingers for the ungraspable, with teeth and stomach for the most indigestible" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_Good_and_Evil ). The video shows them bragging about how prevalent they are through our community. The "do as thou wilt" bastards are laughing at us about how they control positions of authority like policemen(3:36 of video) and how childrens TV programs are filled with their garbage of wolves in sheeps clothing(4:24 of video). And of course the Pizza and Hot Dog symbology throughout the end which culminates with them eating the child. This trash has 77 million views on Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe4EK4HSPkI

Here is the video "Criminal" by Fiona Apple. It is all about placing the blame on the victim, by saying that the victim enticed the pedo scum, instead of the perpetrator. This homage to Child Porn makes great pains to highlight Pizza(:21 and :38 of the video) and tiled kill rooms with easy clean-up(:45 of the video and blood stains on carpet at :48 and :54).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFOzayDpWoI

Junior , January 20, 2017 at 3:06 am GMT \n
100 Words @Junior

The lyrics from "In Bloom":
Sell the kids for food. Weather changes moods. Spring is here again. Reproductive Glands. We can have some more. Nature is a whore. Bruises on the fruit. Tender age in bloom . But he don't know what it means when I say "Yummmmmm"

It should be noted that there are two versions of this song. The original one has the Yummmmm heard at the end at 4:15 in this version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdlrEJk9RDY

FKA Max , January 20, 2017 at 5:55 am GMT \n
500 Words @FKA Max

Some potential victims of James Alefantis have been identified and one gave an anonymous testimony.

What James Alefantis allegedly did here is not illegal, but speaks volumes about his character, in my opinion, if the story indeed is true:
[...]
It turns out that Carole's son, who is +/-18 at this time, is also working at the restaurant. I think his name is Dylan/Dillon. He grew up without a father and turned to James Alefantis often for advice.
One night Carole walked into the comet pizza kitchen, and saw James Alefantis fucking her son in the kitchen. She was furious because she immediately knew how completely James had taken advantage of her son. She quit immediately and denounced James viciously in private, unwilling to do so publicly for professional reasons.

http://www.unz.com/article/precedents-for-pizzagate/#comment-1732211

The story checks out, so far: Carole Greenwood is a single mom and has a son named Dylan, who was 13 years old/young in 2003. [...] [–] daj 16 points (+16|-0) 11 hours ago (edited 10 hours ago)

It's legit: http://hollaforums.com/thread/8359034/politics/james-alefantis-fucks.html

Archive: https://archive.fo/iDbWN

http://www.unz.com/article/precedents-for-pizzagate/#comment-1732521

Disclaimer : I have absolutely no idea if this person is authentic, but since many Pizzagate critics argue that the scandal has not a leg to stand on, because no victims have come forward so far, I believe this testimony is important to share.
[...]
This is how he answered one of the questions on a voat comment thread. He seems to know/be aware of Dylan Greenwood
[...]
Here is one of the email exchanges between he and James Alefantis, that he did not delete: http://archive.is/8423t
[...]
After a little while when it was nearing the final exams, I was stressed out, exhausted and let my guard down and went out for some drinks with James a few times after work to get stuff off my chest. James would drug me up and then take advantage of me. When I threatened to go to the police he implied that he would harm me physically and said he would sue me. He had so many friends around DC that I believed him, I really was afraid, and just kept it all bottled up. I ended up getting PTSD, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, from what were effectively rapes, and later I began to realize that I likely had Stockholm Syndrome. I eventually quit the job, but James would send me lewd photos and texts for another 2 or three years at the rate of once about every 2 to 3 months, I think 6 months was the longest in that period. I had to kick him out of the place I worked when he came in every other month or so for about a year. Let this be a lesson: do not trust sociopaths and pathological liars.

http://www.unz.com/article/precedents-for-pizzagate/#comment-1733621

FKA Max , January 21, 2017 at 1:15 am GMT \n
200 Words @FKA Max

Former Comet Ping Pong Employee Alleges: "James Alefantis sexually assaulted me"
5 hours ago by abortionburger in pizzagate

https://steemit.com/pizzagate/@abortionburger/victim-comes-forward-i-was-sexually-assaulted-by-james-alefantis

Note: I have personally verified this person's identity and backstory. I obviously cannot verify his accusations. He wishes to remain anonymous.

By now, most people are at least vaguely familiar with the so-called "fake news" story known as Pizzagate. For those that aren't, the brief version is that self described "internet investigators" caught wind of some strange wording in the John Podesta emails released by Wikileaks, and went down the largest internet rabbit hole in recent history.

The story was quickly written off as mass hysteria, a conspiracy theory, and fake news by nearly all of mainstream media, and censored from the internet forum site Reddit. The theory, which has a plethora of circumstantial evidence, lacked one key factor: a victim. [...] The anonymous nature of internet forums leads to skeptics demanding proof of any seemingly outrageous claim. The publication of these emails adds credibility to his story.

[Jul 21, 2019] The Billionaire Pedophile Who Could Bring Down Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton by Brandy Zadrozny

This is from 2016 campaign
Notable quotes:
"... A judge threw out Guiffre's motion in 2015, but Guiffre stands by her claims and is suing Ghislaine Maxwell, whom she claims acted as Epstein's madam. ..."
"... Buckingham Palace has also denied the allegations against Prince Andrew, calling them "categorically untrue. ..."
"... Requests for comment to Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Clinton Foundation were not returned. The former president, who flew on the "The Lolita Express" at least 26 times from 2001 to 2003, has never addressed his ties with Epstein, a onetime major Democratic donor, according to Federal Election Commission records, who also gave millions to the Clinton Foundation even after his arrest for abusing underage girls. ..."
Jul 30, 2016 | www.thedailybeast.com

Trump's supporters have long wondered whether he'd use billionaire sicko Jeffrey Epstein as ammo against the Clintons-until a lurid new lawsuit accused The Donald of raping one of Epstein's girls himself. Editor's note: This article has been updated to reflect the withdrawal of Virginia Roberts Guiffre's allegations against Alan Dershowitz and the striking of the allegations from the court record by a federal judge. For Jeffrey Epstein and his famous friends, the Aughts were a simpler time, when the businessmen, academics, and celebrities who counted themselves among the playboy philanthropist's inner circle could freely enjoy the fruits of his extreme wealth and connections. Epstein's little black book and flight logs read like a virtual Who's Who: Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Larry Summers, Kevin Spacey, Prince Andrew , and Naomi Campbell all hitched rides on Epstein's private planes. Socialites and distinguished scientists went to visit Epstein's island in St. Thomas, and cavorted at epic dinner parties at his palatial townhouse-then the largest privately owned residence in New York, as he liked to brag .

There, they picked at elaborate meals catered by celebrity chefs like Rocco DiSpirito, marvelled at Epstein's opulent decor, and noted the pack of very, very young model-types with whom Epstein always seemed to surround himself. But a darker story was going on underneath the glamour. In 2008, Epstein was convicted of soliciting sex from an underage girl and quietly paid settlements to scores of alleged victims who said he serially molested them. But the girls kept coming out of the woodwork-in 2014, another young woman filed a lawsuit claiming that Epstein used her as a sex slave for his powerful friends-and that she'd been at parties on his private island with former President Clinton. And just last week, yet another "Jane Doe" filed a suit in New York accusing Epstein and Donald Trump of raping her at a series of sex parties when she was only 13.

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By the time Epstein was arrested in 2008, police in Palm Beach County, Florida, had already spent months monitoring his movements, rifling through his trash, and interviewing potential victims and witnesses. Police reported to prosecutors that they had gathered enough evidence to charge the money manager with several felonies: lewd and lascivious molestation and four counts of unlawful sexual activity with a minor. Epstein's freedom, his wealth, his little black book full of famous folk-including princes, presidents, and prime ministers-all were seemingly at stake.

So Epstein did what the mega-rich do in these situations: hired star attorneys Gerald Lefcourt and Alan Dershowitz, who defended their client vigorously, reportedly having witnesses followed and discrediting the alleged victims by offering their MySpace pages as evidence of supposed drug use and scandalous behavior.

Prosecutors said Epstein's dream team made successful prosecution unlikely. "Our judgment in this case, based on the evidence known at the time, was that it was better to have a billionaire serve time in jail, register as a sex offender, and pay his victims restitution than risk a trial with a reduced likelihood of success," U.S. Attorney Alex Acosta explained in a 2011 letter.

And so, despite a decade of alleged serial sexual abuse and rape of an unknowable number of girls, some as many as 100 times according to court filings, the notoriously secretive financier was offered a deal. For the alleged systematic victimization of young girls-most of whom were plucked by Epstein's assistants from Palm Beach's poorer neighborhoods and groomed to adore or acquiesce to him-he was slapped with a 2008 conviction on a single charge of soliciting a minor; and sentenced to an 18-month stay in a Palm Beach county jail-of which he served only 13 months and was allowed to leave six days out of every week for "work release." He also agreed to a few dozen confidential, out-of-court payoffs to his accusers, the most recent of which was finalized in 2011.

Epstein's "potential co-conspirators," as the U.S. Attorney called them-women who allegedly procured girls for Epstein-also received immunity from prosecution as a condition of the 2007 agreement that enraged the local police force for its leniency. As of 2015, according to The Guardian, two of these women had changed their names, and were operating businesses out of a building owned by Epstein's brother, where it was alleged in court documents that Epstein had housed young women.

Though Epstein must register as a sex offender for life, and arguably suffer the world's most revolting Google presence, he has seemingly retained his collection of elite academic and media friends as well as his fortune. Since his release in 2009, Epstein has gone about his business, running a mysterious money management firm (clients unknown, income unknown, investments and activities unknown) from his private 70-acre island in the U.S. Virgin Islands and spending time at his Uptown stone mansion. The palace was gifted to Epstein, some say, by its previous owner-Epstein's guardian angel and the founder of The Limited Inc., Leslie Wexner.

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In December 2014, just as the Palm Beach lawsuits were winding down, another alleged victim emerged and her claims were salacious: Epstein, she said, had loaned her out as an underage sex slave to his famous friends -- including Britain's Prince Andrew and Epstein defense attorney Dershowitz (both men denied the charges). Coming forward in Britain's Daily Mail in 2011, Virginia Roberts Guiffre-called Jane Doe #3 in a related lawsuit ( PDF )-claimed that Epstein and his "girlfriend," alleged madame Ghislaine Maxwell, forced her to have sex with the pair's powerful pals and gather intel that Epstein could later use. In court documents, Guiffre testified, "Epstein and Maxwell also told me that they wanted me to produce things for them in addition to performing sex on the men. They told me to pay attention to the details about what the men wanted so I could report back to them."

Guiffre noted that Epstein appeared to be collecting information on Prince Andrew-particularly on his alleged foot fetish-and claimed, "Epstein also trafficked me for sexual purposes to other powerful men, including politicians and powerful business executives. Epstein required me to describe the sexual events I had with these men presumably so that he could potentially blackmail them. I am still very fearful of these men today." A judge threw out Guiffre's motion in 2015, but Guiffre stands by her claims and is suing Ghislaine Maxwell, whom she claims acted as Epstein's madam. Meanwhile, the men named by Guiffre seem eager for her to go away. "It's as if I've been waterboarded for 15 months," Dershowitz told the Boston Globe after the settlement of a defamation case related to Guiffre's claims. "This has taken a terrible toll on my family, on my friends " Buckingham Palace has also denied the allegations against Prince Andrew, calling them "categorically untrue."

UPDATE: This April, Giuffre's lawyers withdrew her allegations against Dershowitz and said that it was a "mistake" to have filed the accusations in the first place. A federal judge later struck her allegations against Dershowitz from the court record. At Dershowitz's request, Louis Freeh, the former head of the FBI, also conducted an independent investigation of her claims and published a statement noting, "Our investigation found no evidence to support the accusations of sexual misconduct against Professor Dershowitz."

In her lawsuit, Guiffre had claimed that during trips to Epstein's private island, she'd also encountered another very famous person: former President Bill Clinton. Guiffre alleges the former U.S. president visited Epstein's "Orgy Island" when there were underage girls present, but added that she never had sex with him and never saw him have sex with any of the young women. Still, it's these sorts of allegations that have journalists and Clinton-haters circling. Just last month, pundits on MSNBC's Morning Joe were speculating about Bill Clinton's oft-discussed friendship with Epstein and whether it would be the go-to play for a Trump campaign looking to combat Hillary Clinton's claims that Trump is bad for women .

Requests for comment to Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Clinton Foundation were not returned. The former president, who flew on the "The Lolita Express" at least 26 times from 2001 to 2003, has never addressed his ties with Epstein, a onetime major Democratic donor, according to Federal Election Commission records, who also gave millions to the Clinton Foundation even after his arrest for abusing underage girls.

"I invest in people-be it politics or science. It's what I do," Epstein has reportedly said to friends. "There's a 100 percent chance [Trump] is going there," said former McCain strategist Steve Schmidt on Morning Joe , referring to Clinton's friendship with the pervy moneyman.

[Jul 20, 2019] As the Jeffrey Epstein Case Grows, Manhattan and DC Brace for Impact> by Gabriel Sherma

Notable quotes:
"... The Jeffrey Epstein case is an asteroid poised to strike the elite world in which he moved. No one can yet say precisely how large it is. ..."
"... The questions about Epstein are metastasizing much faster than they can be answered: Who knew what about Epstein's alleged abuse? How, and from whom, did Epstein get his supposed $500 million fortune? Why did Acosta grant Epstein an outrageously lenient non-prosecution agreement? (And what does it mean that Acosta was reportedly told Epstein "belonged to intelligence"?) But among the most pressing queries is which other famous people might be exposed for committing sex crimes. "There were other business associates of Mr. Epstein's who engaged in improper sexual misconduct at one or more of his homes. We do know that," said Brad Edwards, a lawyer for Courtney Wild, one of the Epstein accusers who gave emotional testimony at Epstein's bail hearing. "In due time the names are going to start coming out." (Attorneys for Epstein did not respond to a request for comment.) ..."
"... Epstein remained a fixture in elite circles even after he was a registered sex offender. A few years ago, for example, he was a guest at a dinner in Palo Alto hosted by LinkedIn cofounder Reid Hoffman for the MIT neuroscientist Ed Boyden. At the dinner, Elon Musk introduced Epstein to Mark Zuckerberg. ("Mark met Epstein in passing one time at a dinner honoring scientists that was not organized by Epstein," Zuckerberg spokesman Ben LaBolt told me. "Mark did not communicate with Epstein again following the dinner.") ..."
Jul 17, 2019 | www.vanityfair.com

Jeffrey Epstein "It's Going to Be Staggering, the Amount of Names": As the Jeffrey Epstein Case Grows More Grotesque, Manhattan and DC Brace for Impact

The disgraced financier "collected people," said a source. Could some of them be implicated in his crimes? Meanwhile, Alan Dershowitz ("He's a bad person") and David Boies ("He's a liar") are already at war over the case.

The Jeffrey Epstein case is an asteroid poised to strike the elite world in which he moved. No one can yet say precisely how large it is. But as the number of women who've accused the financier (at least, that's what he claimed to be) of sexual assault grows to grotesque levels -- there are said to be more than 50 women who are potential victims -- a wave of panic is rippling through Manhattan, DC, and Palm Beach, as Epstein's former friends and associates rush to distance themselves, while gossiping about who might be ensnared. Donald Trump 's labor secretary, Alexander Acosta, architect of the original 2007 non-prosecution agreement that let Epstein off with a wrist slap, has already been forced to resign.

The questions about Epstein are metastasizing much faster than they can be answered: Who knew what about Epstein's alleged abuse? How, and from whom, did Epstein get his supposed $500 million fortune? Why did Acosta grant Epstein an outrageously lenient non-prosecution agreement? (And what does it mean that Acosta was reportedly told Epstein "belonged to intelligence"?) But among the most pressing queries is which other famous people might be exposed for committing sex crimes. "There were other business associates of Mr. Epstein's who engaged in improper sexual misconduct at one or more of his homes. We do know that," said Brad Edwards, a lawyer for Courtney Wild, one of the Epstein accusers who gave emotional testimony at Epstein's bail hearing. "In due time the names are going to start coming out." (Attorneys for Epstein did not respond to a request for comment.)

Likely within days, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit will release almost 2,000 pages of documents that could reveal sexual abuse by "numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a well-known prime minister, and other world leaders," according to the three-judge panel's ruling. The documents were filed during a civil defamation lawsuit brought by Epstein accuser Virginia Roberts Giuffre, a former Mar-a-Lago locker-room attendant, against Epstein's former girlfriend and alleged madam, Ghislaine Maxwell. "Nobody who was around Epstein a lot is going to have an easy time now. It's all going to come out," said Giuffre's lawyer David Boies. Another person involved with litigation against Epstein told me: "It's going to be staggering, the amount of names. It's going to be contagion numbers."

Epstein remained a fixture in elite circles even after he was a registered sex offender. A few years ago, for example, he was a guest at a dinner in Palo Alto hosted by LinkedIn cofounder Reid Hoffman for the MIT neuroscientist Ed Boyden. At the dinner, Elon Musk introduced Epstein to Mark Zuckerberg. ("Mark met Epstein in passing one time at a dinner honoring scientists that was not organized by Epstein," Zuckerberg spokesman Ben LaBolt told me. "Mark did not communicate with Epstein again following the dinner.")

In an email, Elon Musk responded: "I don't recall introducing Epstein to anyone, as I don't know the guy well enough to do so, Epstein is obviously a creep and Zuckerberg is not a friend of mine. Several years ago, I was at his house in Manhattan for about 30 minutes in the middle of the afternoon with Talulah [Riley] , as she was curious about meeting this strange person for a novel she was writing. We did not see anything inappropriate at all, apart from weird art. He tried repeatedly to get me to visit his island. I declined." A Musk spokesperson also emailed: "Elon never introduced Jeffrey Epstein to Mark Zuckerberg and does not know either person well enough to do so. They simply happened to be guests at a neuroscience dinner organized by Reid Hoffman." Advertisement One source who's done business with Epstein told me that Epstein's 21,000-square-foot townhouse on East 71st Street welcomed a steady stream of the Davos crowd in the past decade. The source said Bill Gates, Larry Summers, and Steve Bannon visited the house, which has been called one of the largest private residences in Manhattan. "Jeffrey collected people. That's what he did," the source said. Gates and Summers did not respond to requests for comment.

Thus far, the name most publicly associated with Epstein's alleged crimes is famed lawyer Alan Dershowitz, who's been waging a public battle with David Boies for years. In April, Boies's client Giuffre sued Dershowitz for defamation after Dershowitz called her a liar (a strategy similar to that of seven of Bill Cosby 's accusers ). In the days since the FBI arrested Epstein at Teterboro Airport a week and a half ago, Dershowitz has been going on television and dialing up friends and reporters to profess his innocence and label Giuffre and Boies liars. "I want everything to come out! I'm not afraid of anything because I did nothing wrong," Dershowitz told me on the afternoon of July 15.

He called me a minute after I had emailed him for comment. He said he'd been friends with Epstein since 1996, when they were introduced at a party on Martha's Vineyard by Lynn Forester de Rothschild. "She begged me to meet him. She told me, 'here's this smart academic.'" A few days later, Epstein invited Dershowitz to Les Wexner 's 59th birthday party at Wexner's mansion in New Albany, Ohio. "It's a tradition that Jeff invited the smartest person he met that year. He told them I was the smartest." They remained close for years. Dershowitz strenuously denied ever participating in Epstein's underage sex ring and said he'd only been in Epstein's presence with his wife. "I got one massage!" he told me. "It was from a 50-year-old Russian woman named Olga. And I kept my shorts on. I didn't even like it. I'm not a massage guy."

Dershowitz said he secretly (and legally) tape-recorded settlement conversations with Boies and that the phone calls capture Boies admitting that Giuffre's allegations aren't true. "Boies is a bad person," he told me.

"I never said that," Boies responded when I asked about Dershowitz's version of the phone calls. "What Alan does is he plays a second or two out of context; he never lets anybody listen to the whole thing." Boies also dismissed Dershowitz's claim that he never met Giuffre at Epstein's house. According to Boies, Epstein's former employees said in sworn depositions that they saw Dershowitz at the house multiple times without his wife. "This Olga woman doesn't exist. Epstein's barely kept women around who were over 25. It's a figment of Alan's imagination," Boies said. On Wall Street, Epstein is a subject of mystery -- and fear. "I knew Jeff. He came across as very smart, very sophisticated," one hedge fund manager told me. "He always had a good read on people. But manipulative people are good at that." Another person who's been in meetings with Epstein told me: "He's very clever."

How Epstein obtained his fortune is a matter of feverish speculation. His claim to a billionaire-only client list now seems laughable to the bankers I spoke with. One Wall Street source with direct knowledge of Epstein's business said one source of Epstein's income was providing "tax advice and estate planning" to rich clients, like Apollo Global Management founder Leon Black , presumably because Epstein had experience with offshore funds after basing his office in the Virgin Islands. In 2015 Black made a $10 million donation to Epstein's foundation. (Black declined to comment.) Advertisement In the absence of much other information, the reigning theory on Wall Street currently is that Epstein's activities with women and girls were central to the building of his fortune, and his relations with some of his investors essentially amounted to blackmail.

Similarly, DC is on edge. "Epstein bragged about his contacts in Washington," Boies said. Reporters are likely to dig into why the Justice Department decided not to prosecute Epstein and kept the deal secret from his victims. One theory circulating among prominent Republicans is that Epstein was a Mossad agent. Another is that the George W. Bush White House directed Acosta not to prosecute Epstein to protect Prince Andrew on behalf of the British government, then the U.S.'s closest ally in the Iraq war. "The royal family did everything they could to try and discredit the Prince Andrew stuff," Boies told me. "When we tried to follow up with anything, we were stonewalled. We wanted to interview him, they were unwilling to do anything." (Prince Andrew could not be reached for comment).

Of course, the two Epstein friends that people are most curious about are Donald Trump and Bill Clinton, both of whom have denied anything untoward. During the 2016 presidential race, Hillary Clinton 's campaign consulted Bill's post–White House Secret Service logs because they were worried Trump would bring up Bill's close association with Epstein and wanted to get ahead of the story, a source told me.

For those in Epstein's orbit, the stakes of exposure are bound to get higher as more and more women come forward. Every day seems to bring new horrors about Epstein's alleged depravity. At a press conference on Tuesday, Courtney Wild's lawyer Brad Edwards said that after interviewing dozens of Epstein's accusers, it appeared Epstein spent almost all of his time abusing underage girls. "It was his full-time job," Edwards said. "We have not found anyone who has provided information about a legitimate business he was engaged [in]."

This article has been updated to include a comment from Elon Musk, and to clarify Epstein's relationship to Leon Black.

[Jul 20, 2019] Dave Collum Goes Deep On Conspiracy Theories 9-11, Epstein, Pizzagate, JFK, The Vegas Shooting Zero Hedge

Jul 20, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Cornell professor, and long-time friend, David Collum recently appeared on an episode of the Quoth the Raven podcast to talk all things conspiracy. Collum is an economic commentator, chemist, Betty R. Miller Professor of Chemistry and Chemical Biology at Cornell University and is known for writing his "Year in Review", which appears here on Zerohedge at the end of every year.

On the episode, host Chris Irons notes that Collum's appearance was prompted by a recent Tweet he put out, in defense of being a conspiracy theorist which sparked a massive social media response and outpouring of reactions, both pro and con.

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On the podcast, Collum and host Chris Irons tap into every major conspiracy theory over the last couple of decades, as well as several current events and the world of finance.

Some highlights:

Collum Thinks Jeffrey Epstein Could Have Been Working For "Powerful People" And "Setting People Up"

The discussion starts with analysis of the current Jeffrey Epstein fiasco and Collum ponders what "can of worms" could open for Bill Clinton and Donald Trump as a result of Epstein going to trial and documents relating to his indictment coming to light.

"It's going to be bi-partisan," Collum says about the Epstein allegations. "Epstein was working for powerful people, to get dirt on powerful people. Epstein wasn't just a dirtball, he was setting people up," he continues.

Collum comments:

"Nowadays getting photographed on a boat with a blonde sitting on your lap doesn't even cause you to lose a vote. Now they gotta get you with something much dirtier. I think that's where the underage kids come in. I think Epstein has been building a portfolio of dirt, like J. Edgar Hoover."

"What if that crazy ass pizzagate conspiracy turns out to be true?" he asks.

* * *

Collum Doesn't Buy The 9/11 Narrative - "Physics Tells Me There's Problems"

Collum then discusses why he doesn't believe the mainstream narrative behind the 9/11 attacks. He cites physics, Building 7 and the lack of video footage of the plane crashing into the Pentagon as two of the big reasons that he questions the official story.

"I think there's problems with 9/11, but no one wants to say that because they're embarrassed to say that. But the laws of physics tell me there's problems. I don't give a shit about the squibs or Larry Silverstein saying they decided to pull the building. When I watch two towers come down perfectly and I go 'chaos theory alone says they should have gone asymmetric and stopped tumbling'..."

Collum continues:

"" I can't believe Building 7 should have fallen . There's really not a shred of footage of the plane hitting the pentagon. Not one frame. The official frame isn't a frame. If someone's got the footage, let me see it."


Scipio Africanuz , 29 minutes ago link

Epstein is tripartisan - Democrats, Republicans, and Likudist, cheers...

captain noob , 40 minutes ago link

Las Vegas CIA

9/11 Israel

Eipstein Mossad

Posa , 1 hour ago link

There's conspiracy theory and conspiracy fact... important distinction... The Congressional 9/11 Inquiry strongly points to CIA- FBI collaboration with the Saudis (the 28 pages redacted by Bush) to stage the 9/11 Terror Spectacle...

Willie the Pimp , 1 hour ago link

I am a "conspiracy theorist". I believe men and women of wealth and power conspire. If you don't think so, then you are what is called "an idiot". If you believe stuff but fear the label, you are what is called "a coward".

So well said.

Ignorance is bliss , 1 hour ago link

I was on Yahoo commenting on a stupid article about Trump and some Kurdish lady asking for asylum. All the comments were anti-Trump. I posted a couple of above board comments and they were all erased. Yahoo articles are heavily censored and bots are posting most of their liberal views. I wonder how long before sites like ZeroHedge will last.

847328_3527 , 1 hour ago link

Good article. However, i am still waiting for even one, at least ONE, demoRat or pedophile to be indicted on anything.

[Jul 20, 2019] There Were Photos Of Topless Women Everywhere Epstein's Former IT Guy Quit Over Disturbing Pictures

Jul 20, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Jeffrey Epstein's former IT contractor, Steve Scully, says that he ended his business relationship with the 66-year-old pedophile over hordes of young women all over his infamous private island, as well as an extensive collection of photographs depicting topless women displayed in the island's various compounds , according to Good Morning America.

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Scully told ABC News that he owned and operated a telecommunications business on nearby St. Thomas island when he was hired by Epstein to set up a communications network on Little St. James, also known as 'Pedo Island.' He visited the island over 100 times, and says that his memories of Epstein are 'vivid.'

" He was the most intense person I ever met ," said Scully.

Epstein wanted phone or internet access nearly everywhere on the 72-acre island, Scully said, including in a secluded cove that the financier referred to as "the grotto." Given his work in high-volume financial trading, Scully said, Epstein "never wanted a call to drop" because of weak digital coverage on the island .

The island's primary compound was arranged in a "Danish style" layout -- with individual bedroom suites in individual buildings surrounding a courtyard, Scully recalled, including a pair of large cockatoo statues lording over the island's gardens. He said that at one point, he recalled Epstein wanting to change the name of the island from "Little St. James" to "Little Saint Jeff."

According to Scully, that the strange 'temple' structure was actually a gym , which contained a massive framed photo of a topless woman.


Give Me Some Truth , 6 minutes ago link

Yes, Epstein and Maxwell were obviously operating a major "sex trafficking" operation that involved plenty of girls who were underage.

But Epstein was also, in effect, operating a bordello. A whore house. One assumes that any man who "paid" to be in Epstein's company, had his choice of women or girls.

This is why these places are so "out of the way" and secluded. The island and the ranch in New Mexico.

cleg , 5 minutes ago link

On season St Thomas is awash in bimbo tourists from all over the US & Europe

Ask the St Thomas police how many are reported missing and the estimate of those never reported. Cruise ships don't care..they leave. Airplane don't wait. The assumption is that they got drunk or went native. If they don't show up somewhere looking for a ride home, is any one really looking for them ? Inquiring minds would like to know.

Offer them a party on a PRIVATE Island !..A helicopter or boat ride ! Keep em fed..$2.00 a quart duty free rum...keeping the island stocked with bimbos is the easy part...especially for his less discerning quests. Now the " prime stock " of young uns is a different matter but just keeping a " horde " of bimbos in stock is a breeze for his staff.

When they get stale or become troublesome...drop them back on St Thomas and let the authorities send them back to whence they came with a nice annual retainer to the local constabulary. Rounding up drunks and miscreants and putting them on airplanes is routine duty in island life

I'm sure New Mexico offers the same opportunities and that has its own airstrip.

Give Me Some Truth , 18 minutes ago link

It seems that Vanity Fair is taking the lead in producing informative articles about Epstein's "world."

I gather from a recent story that The Miami Herald might, in fact, be trying to "follow the money."

Both good developments. The more "mainstream" journalists who get involved - and score "scoops" and produce content with big audiences - the more other news organizations might say, "Let's join in and do the same thing."

That's when big stories get exposed - when a pack of journalists and news organizations are simultaneously pursuing different avenues of the same story.

... I still haven't seen a story where authorities explain why they haven't arrested Ghislaine Maxwell or raided the islands or the ranch in New Mexico . So it's not like the press is actually "fishing where the (big) fish are." At least not yet.

... But they might be getting closer to going here.

Your Good Friend , 24 minutes ago link

Epstain has all the behaviors of a bonafide homosexual.

And we all know the predatory nature of homosexuals.

buzzsaw99 , 28 minutes ago link

epstein motto: no child left behind.

[Jul 20, 2019] Decoding Jeffrey Epstein's Mysterious, Star-Studded Black Book Vanity Fair

Jul 20, 2019 | www.vanityfair.com

Vanity Fair: You started digging into Jeffrey Epstein after writing The Franklin Scandal. What are some of the similarities you found?

Nick Bryant: That book is a template for what's happening now and how high up it goes. A major parallel between the two stories is that Lawrence King, who was one of the primary pimps of this pedophile network I wrote about, and Jeffrey Epstein, they were both flying children interstate, and they had both done it with impunity for a number of years. In both instances you have officials who were unwilling to back down. In Epstein, you had the Palm Beach Police Department that was unwilling to back down, and in Lawrence King, you had the Nebraska Senate that was unwilling to back down. Epstein had an island, and I'm sure he had these parties also at his place in Manhattan and elsewhere, and there were hidden cameras. In this particular venue in Washington, DC, where the Nebraska victims were trafficked, there were also hidden cameras. The individual who owned the house in Washington, DC, he had intelligence affiliations. We're seeing with Epstein that he also had alleged intelligence connections. King and Epstein collected children in the same type of fashion. King would have kids conscript other kids, just like Epstein would have kids conscript other kids. In both cases the victims were threatened and hassled. Both Jeffrey Epstein and Lawrence King had lavish lifestyles, but there wasn't an obvious explanation for their wealth, and both were prominently associated with power brokers of the highest order. [Editor's note: A grand jury concluded there was no evidence to charge King with any sex crimes.]

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What was your first impression when you read through it and saw all the names?

I'd seen this exact same thing before with The Franklin Scandal. It was like déjà vu. I felt like, well, here's another power broker pedophile network. Definitely.

What stood out to you the most?

His lofty social connections were pretty mind-boggling. There were approximately 22 contact numbers for Bill Clinton. And the names of the people the house manager had circled were pretty stunning. Did you just start calling everyone?

I started calling victims. And they were very, very hard to talk to at that point.

How many did you call?

I called as many as I could call. A lot of the numbers were disconnected, but I was able to talk to some of them, and they essentially corroborated what I thought, that Epstein was the pimp of a very large network.

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Did it get any traction at that point?

Gawker got a lot of hits. They published his flight manifest too. But ultimately I was stunned that no one in the mainstream media was willing to touch the subject matter.

Now, this is arguably the biggest story in the mainstream media, and the narrative is starting to turn to, who else in Epstein's network might this touch? How important is the black book as a piece of evidence, and what does it actually tell us? It's not a crime to be in someone's Rolodex even if that someone is an accused serial pedophile.

Well, the black book shows that Epstein had connections to Mount Olympus. He was hanging out with the gods. Why would he have 20-something contact numbers for Bill Clinton? Why did the house manager circle Donald Trump's name? Why did he circle Ehud Barak's name? Alan Dershowitz's name? The house manager's credibility is questionable, no? He got busted for trying to turn a profit on the book.

In these types of investigations, you're gonna deal with some very sordid people. Even the victims, their credibility can be problematic, because they can come from lower socioeconomic backgrounds, repeatedly molested at a very young age, some turn to drugs to assuage their pain. That's what makes this type of thing perfect for the perpetrators. The victims' credibility is easy to compromise.

To your mind, which are the most interesting names that appear in the book, or that might prove to be relevant to the current legal proceedings?

There are people in that book whose names aren't circled who I've been told are perpetrators. One of them is a former U.S. senator.

Who told you that?

One of the lawyers. The black book provides the scaffolding so people can start digging into Epstein's life. His life is contained in that black book, and a lot of those people have nothing to do with molesting children, but it just shows the diversity of Epstein's life and the power brokers he hung out with.

What's your sense of the extent to which the black book might be used as an investigative road map?

I haven't talked to law enforcement about it, but I'd say the book would be hugely helpful. Although the majority of the individuals in the book aren't perps, some will invariably be privy to inconvenient truths about Epstein. Plus, the black book also contains perps who law enforcement can compel to disclose the particulars of Epstein's network.

To your mind, which are the most interesting names that appear in the book, or that might prove to be relevant to the current legal proceedings?

There are people in that book whose names aren't circled who I've been told are perpetrators. One of them is a former U.S. senator.

Who told you that?

One of the lawyers. The black book provides the scaffolding so people can start digging into Epstein's life. His life is contained in that black book, and a lot of those people have nothing to do with molesting children, but it just shows the diversity of Epstein's life and the power brokers he hung out with.

What's your sense of the extent to which the black book might be used as an investigative road map?

I haven't talked to law enforcement about it, but I'd say the book would be hugely helpful. Although the majority of the individuals in the book aren't perps, some will invariably be privy to inconvenient truths about Epstein. Plus, the black book also contains perps who law enforcement can compel to disclose the particulars of Epstein's network.

Do you have any reporting about Epstein that hasn't yet been made public?

Most of it has been corroborated and confirmed at this point. I was one guy against a machine, and now there's all kinds of news entities with all kinds of reporters digging into it.

Where does this whole thing go from here? What are your predictions?

I don't know. In The Franklin Scandal, there were two primary pimps. One committed suicide, the other did 10 years in prison for embezzlement, and he's had a pretty comfortable life since. It all depends on whether Epstein's gonna talk or not. If Epstein talks, there's gonna be a lot of powerful people who could go down. It's really contingent upon how far the Department of Justice wants to take this. But like I said earlier, the Epstein scandal will also go all the way up to Mount Olympus.

[Jul 20, 2019] Palm Beach Sheriff Launches Internal Investigation Into Handling Of Epstein Work Release

Notable quotes:
"... Edwards said during the press conference that he raised the accusation to challenge the idea that Epstein was a model citizen while in jail. Edwards also said that Epstein was in his office most of the day during his 18-month sentence, of which he served 13 months, and that he had female visitors under the age of 21 . ..."
"... Edwards said Epstein had sexual interactions with the female visitors that constituted abuse and were similar in nature to the abuses described in the indictment and charges Epstein faces in court, which are one count of sex trafficking of minors and one count of conspiracy to engage in sex trafficking of minors. - Business Insider ..."
Jul 20, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

The Palm Beach Sheriff's Office has launched an internal affairs investigation into how it handled convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein's work release following a 2007 plea agreement that allowed him to work out of his Palm Beach office for up to 12 hours per day, according to the Miami Herald - which has been instrumental in Epstein's arrest 12 years later.

Specifically, it will look at the decision more than a decade ago to allow Epstein to be free 12 hours a day on work release while serving a short sentence in the county stockade on a prostitution-related charge.

On Friday, Sheriff Ric Bradshaw -- the same sheriff who oversaw the controversial work release arrangement -- ordered the investigation be done.

" Sheriff Bradshaw takes these matters very seriously and wants to determine if any actions taken by the deputies assigned to monitor Epstein during his work release program violated any agency rules and regulations, during the time he was on PBSO work release program," a news release said. - Miami Herald

Epstein was given a slap on the wrist over allegations that he sexually abused girls as young as 14 - many of whom were coerced into sex acts after being told they were there to offer massages.

The US Attorney's office, headed by disgraced former Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta, scrapped a 53-page sex-trafficking indictment against Epstein , instead allowing him to plea guilty to solicitation of a minor - a much lesser charge. He served 13 months in the county stockade vs. the decades-long sentence he faced under the federal indictment , according to the Herald .

Epstein has been accused of sexually abusing girls while on work release , according to attorney Brad Edwards, who represents some of Epstein's accusers.

During a Tuesday press conference in New York City, Edwards introduced a woman named Courtney Wild, who says Epstein began abusing her when she was 14-years-old, according to Business Insider .

Edwards said during the press conference that he raised the accusation to challenge the idea that Epstein was a model citizen while in jail. Edwards also said that Epstein was in his office most of the day during his 18-month sentence, of which he served 13 months, and that he had female visitors under the age of 21 .

Edwards said Epstein had sexual interactions with the female visitors that constituted abuse and were similar in nature to the abuses described in the indictment and charges Epstein faces in court, which are one count of sex trafficking of minors and one count of conspiracy to engage in sex trafficking of minors. - Business Insider

Wild appeared in court on Monday during Epstein's bail hearing, saying "I was sexually abused by Jeffrey Epstein starting at the age of 14," while standing just feet from the pedophile money manager.

Epstein was denied bail on Thursday , with Wild's appearance cited in Judge Richard M. Berman's decision.


White Nat , 2 hours ago link

SND #42 Whitney Webb Talks On Her Groundbreaking Epstein Report!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhQNtEDedLk

Hidden in Plain Sight: The Shocking Origins of the Jeffrey Epstein Case

https://www.mintpressnews.com/shocking-origins-jeffrey-epstein-blackmail-roy-cohn/260621/

Good in-depth look into how ruthless zionist gangsters control our political process through blackmail.

Bronfman, Cohn, Epstein, Wexner, Dalitz, Lansky, Rosensteil - all here.

Now you know why DC sucks zio-****.

Jumanji1959 , 3 hours ago link

Find the common denominator:

Straddling-the-fence , 4 hours ago link

...that he sexually abused girls as young as 14 - many of whom were coerced into sex acts after being told they were there to offer massages.

Why in the hell were fourteen-to-seventeen year old girls even "giving massages??????" That should be a clear indicator right there!

MsCreant , 3 hours ago link

Are you blaming the girls, that they should have known better? Or?

Asking to get clear.

Straddling-the-fence , 3 hours ago link

I wouldn't say "blame" is the right word at all. In fact, I wasn't even posting that coming from the viewpoint/consideration of the girls.

But, for the sake of being the devil's advocate, let's take that route:

Let's say you are a 14 or 15 year old child. Why would an older, rich man even be approaching you for.....anything? Further, why would you them give them the time of day, let alone go to their house/apartment. Further, why would you then allow yourself to be in the position of being alone with them? Further still, why would you then "agree" to "give them a massage?"

The only reasons I can come up with are: 1) Homelessness/Poverty/Hunger/some other extreme condition of life or health, 2) Attention/the promise of gifts or money, 3) Wanting to **** an older guy and/or daddy issues.

MsCreant , 3 hours ago link

#1 and #3 = vulnerable, which is why our culture has decided to protect this age group.

I have step daughters. At 16, I had one who was dressed to kill, going to a party with a lot of older men. I sat her down and explained to her how she looked and the attention she would draw. I did not judge her, I flattered her and told her it was a responsibility. Later, I was made the bad guy for being mean and "scaring her." She cried that I had spoiled her party, that men were not really like that. I had to back off.

My point? So many parents don't talk to their girls about this stuff. And by the time you get to them, if they have not been gently brought along, they think you are trying to control them, and may actually rebel.

Berspankme , 4 hours ago link

Corrupt dept investigates itself. What could go wrong?

White Nat , 4 hours ago link

The real investigation should be into Barry Krischer, the jewish democrat State Prosecutor who only charged his fellow *** Epstein with solicitation despite the mountains of child molestation evidence provided by the Palm Beach PD.

Florida Dem Who Gave Epstein a Pass is Providing "Training" on Prosecuting Sexual Violence Crimes

https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/274255/florida-dem-who-gave-epstein-pass-providing-daniel-greenfield

Would be interesting to know who waived off Acosta and what intelligence agency was involved.

And did Acosta become Labor Secretary in a quid pro quo? If so, who made that deal?

[Jul 20, 2019] How Long Is Jeffrey Epstein For This World

Notable quotes:
"... Mr. LLargi, you need to ask, "Why did this Epstein thing go public now?" This is hard core betrayal of an arrangement Epstein had with government entities and it was done for a reason. Probably a political reason. ..."
"... Epstein seems to be a fairly smart guy, academic-wise, even without the formal degrees. But his inclinations and then being adopted by Mossad entirely corrupted his being. ..."
"... Chances are few elites will go down with Epstein. However, it is very likely the Blackmail material changed hands on who controls it. When it comes to the power structure of the western world, that is a very big deal. ..."
Jul 20, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

This I found interesting, Fox, also from July 18, because it targets Prince Andrew. Is MI6 going to be able to muffle away the obviously very strong and long-term connection between Epstein and Andrew? I'm thinking they'd probably have to get those 2,000 pages re-sealed. Or, you know, burned down. Nuked.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/DQ1JQvi3GSA

And then there's George Webb. Now he is, I understand, someone who's known as a conspiracy theorist, but then many people are in some circles, including myself, This video was posted on July 8 2019, 2 days after Epstein's arrest. My thought while watching this is he may be wrong on some things, he may even be making a few points up, but when you're that detailed on events that occurred over such a long time, you're either on very powerful drugs or you're not entirely wrong. Check for yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/RZlDb6vG6XM

To summarize my thoughts on this, and the reason I started writing this, I can't see Epstein living much longer. There are too many people who would rather see him dead, including perhaps himself. And there are very few people who want him to get into lengthy talks with prosecutors who are actually looking for the truth.

Now of course we must wonder if any prosecutor wants that truth. Alex Acosta left his US government job because "Epstein is intelligence" was not enough to let him keep his job. And if we can believe some of the stories about the CIA, the State Dept and Mossad being linked to Epstein (and we got worse than that), it looks like he's just got to go. Unless someone, or some party involved, has a reason to protect him against all odds. If only to handicap some other people.

After this piece I really hope I never have to write about this topic again. My hopes of that are not overly high, but I do have to say I have a very hard time thinking about child -sex- abuse. I also think we must think much harder about why it is that we pick predators to lead our societies. Because this hardly ever fails, doesn't it? A bunch of sexual deviants rise to the top everywhere.

Sexual predation appears to be some inevitable part of political power. Not everywhere and not all the time, but far too much for comfort.

Let's hope enough of those predators are exposed through the Jeffrey Epstein case. But, you know, listening to George Webb, you think of the oil sheikhs and the girls being trafficked by Epstein and others, from the Balkans and dirt poor African countries, and you ask yourself, what are the odds of full exposure?


Baron von Bud , 11 minutes ago link

Mr. LLargi, you need to ask, "Why did this Epstein thing go public now?" This is hard core betrayal of an arrangement Epstein had with government entities and it was done for a reason. Probably a political reason.

There has to be some systemically critical reason to expose certain people on that list. Epstein never imagined he would be used as criminal evidence against them. Lured back to America, he goes from mega rich with money from unknown sources to a super-max where he can never speak the truth to anyone. I'd guess #2.

Thom Paine , 7 minutes ago link

There seems to be an attempt to rewrite Epstein's history of attendance at Dalton School as a math's teacher. Changing the dates of Epstein's attendance and who employed him. Not sure why, but must be something behind it.

Don Barr was headmaster there and put his resignation in Feb 1974 and left in June 1974. He hired Epstein apparently, though the assertion now is that Epstein started in Sept 1974. Barr as the story in the news back then goes had a habit of employing effective smart people for the job rather than just relying on qualifications.

And stories of Epstein's tenure at Dalton School showed that he was charismatic and a very effective teacher, though some kids have since reported being uncomfortable at times, most liked him., so of the students said though that they saw Epstein flirting with the girls.

Don Barr was the absolute opposite of Epstein in every way imaginable (video interviews of the1970s) and had trouble with the school board for being too strict and conservative when they wanted progressiveness (NY Times of the day). After Barr quit many members of the school committee wanted him re-employed and had a lot of support for him, but the Admin didn't offer it back to him.

The guy that replaced Barr as Headmaster then got into trouble for pedophilia accusation, getting some familys' daughter to 'live in' in his home and provide housework support for the family, in exchange for him paying for her school admittance.

It seems that Epstein has had an early predilection for under age girls? and one wonders if that new headmaster introduced him to the world, or it was coincidence that they both ended up in the school together.

Epstein seems to be a fairly smart guy, academic-wise, even without the formal degrees. But his inclinations and then being adopted by Mossad entirely corrupted his being.

Ms No , 22 minutes ago link

Its very clear now why the British government, American government and the Catholic Church were stacked with pederasts.

Mossad and their puppet CIA run everything. Edit: You can see the dominoes fall by following ownership of currency. There is no global power that they wont target.

rag_house , 44 minutes ago link

Chances are few elites will go down with Epstein. However, it is very likely the Blackmail material changed hands on who controls it. When it comes to the power structure of the western world, that is a very big deal.

[Jul 19, 2019] The Epstein story discredits American justice, American media, reaches into the White House as well as represents the power of Israel over the governments of the US, Britain and Canada

Jul 19, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

curious man , Jul 19 2019 0:44 utc | 67

Epstein and the American Lie Machine
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/07/18/neo-epstein-and-the-american-lie-machine/

"The Epstein story touches everywhere, discredits American justice, American media, reaches into the White House, perhaps through numerous occupants and eventually settles in, a continuing mystery, still protected by a controlled media as it leads us to not one but 20 billionaires, a secret society tied to Epstein, that represents the power of Israel over the governments of the US, Britain and Canada."

"What is the real story? First of all, sex with children is nothing new in America. Child sex was the norm when the Pilgrims landed on Plymouth Rock in 1620 and little changed other than it becoming a convenient tool to smear political opponents.

For two centuries, girls as young as 12 were regularly married off, sometimes forcibly, to men as old as 70 while others were sold into slavery to work in the mills or join the endless hordes serving in America's brothels."

[Jul 19, 2019] The significant amount of overlap between Epstein s and Cohn s covert activities in sexual blackmail and their ties to many of the same powerful individuals and circles of influence strongly suggest that Epstein was one of Cohn s successors

Notable quotes:
"... Is it just me, or is this pedo-Epstein op starting to look like a Bibi op to take Barak out of the election? Yes, Bibi might just be piling on to an existing situation as an opportunity to take out Ehud, but... ..."
"... That has seemed to be one thing it is being used for, to get Barak to retire again. And both Barak and Dershowitz seem to be seriously spooked by the Epstein case. ..."
"... Years later, Samuel Bronfman's children and grandchildren, their family's ties to the criminal underworld intact, would later go on to associate closely with Leslie Wexner, allegedly the source of much of Epstein's mysterious wealth, and other mob-linked "philanthropists," and some would even manage their own sexual blackmail operations , including the recently busted blackmail-based "sex cult" NXIVM. ..."
"... The significant amount of overlap between Epstein's and Cohn's covert activities in sexual blackmail and their ties to many of the same powerful individuals and circles of influence strongly suggest that Epstein was one of Cohn's successors . ..."
"... As will be shown in the final installment of this report, Epstein is only the latest incarnation of a much older, more extensive and sophisticated operation that offers a frightening window into how deeply tied the U.S. government is to the modern-day equivalents of organized crime, making it a racket truly too big to fail. ..."
"... Epstein's remaining in jail will make many powerful people nervous. They must be wondering if Epstein will get special treatment from the intelligence agencies once again , or if Epstein will make a deal to save himself. ..."
"... Speaking of Epstein, thought some here may find this very long, detailed article of interest. I can't vouch for it but damn if it doesn't provide background on the folks Epstein has surrounded himself with such as Ghislane Maxwell as well as ties to Israel and how he likely made a ton of dough - ..."
"... The Most Valuable Commodity Today: Human Data – Robert Maxwell Understood Data - https://www.abeldanger.org/the-most-valuable-commodity-today-human-data-robert-maxwell-understood-data/ ..."
Jul 19, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

casey , Jul 18 2019 17:52 utc | 9

Is it just me, or is this pedo-Epstein op starting to look like a Bibi op to take Barak out of the election? Yes, Bibi might just be piling on to an existing situation as an opportunity to take out Ehud, but...

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-17/camouflaged-israeli-ex-pm-pictured-entering-epsteins-mansion-same-day-hotties-show

Bemildred , Jul 18 2019 18:41 utc | 14

casey @9: That has seemed to be one thing it is being used for, to get Barak to retire again. And both Barak and Dershowitz seem to be seriously spooked by the Epstein case. But of course you can't take that at face value either. Dershowitz is practically beshitting himself, the big-shot lawyer, hmm, do we believe that? "I kept my undies on." This guy saved OJ?

On the other hand atacking Barak with it looks sort of opportunistic to me, I don't think it is the reason Epstein got outed again. That seems to be about some sort of war in the "elites" and spook communities whose details remain obscure, but I expect we will learn a lot more about it as time goes on.

jsb , Jul 18 2019 19:30 utc | 29

A good article by Whitney Webb from MintpressNews:


Hidden in Plain Sight: The Shocking Origins of the Jeffrey Epstein Case

...

Years later, Samuel Bronfman's children and grandchildren, their family's ties to the criminal underworld intact, would later go on to associate closely with Leslie Wexner, allegedly the source of much of Epstein's mysterious wealth, and other mob-linked "philanthropists," and some would even manage their own sexual blackmail operations , including the recently busted blackmail-based "sex cult" NXIVM.

...

The significant amount of overlap between Epstein's and Cohn's covert activities in sexual blackmail and their ties to many of the same powerful individuals and circles of influence strongly suggest that Epstein was one of Cohn's successors .

As will be shown in the final installment of this report, Epstein is only the latest incarnation of a much older, more extensive and sophisticated operation that offers a frightening window into how deeply tied the U.S. government is to the modern-day equivalents of organized crime, making it a racket truly too big to fail.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/shocking-origins-jeffrey-epstein-blackmail-roy-cohn/260621/


Rick Wiles of TruNews did a segment about this and the other sordid details yesterday. Worth a listen to (start @18:15):

https://youtu.be/voWj44_w_3M

Jackrabbit , Jul 18 2019 19:49 utc | 33
casey @9: starting to look like a Bibi op to take Barak out

bemildred @14: That has seemed to be one thing it is being used for

Epstein's remaining in jail will make many powerful people nervous. They must be wondering if Epstein will get special treatment from the intelligence agencies once again , or if Epstein will make a deal to save himself.

What people that matter would dare to publicly object to war with Iran when they know that they could be named by Epstein as part of a plea bargain (that includes Trump, of course).

Ultimately, it may all turn out to be a farce as the intelligence agencies will likely insist on another sweetheart deal (or, more likely, that the former sweetheart deal must be honored) . But the timing of Epstein's time in jail seems very advantageous to Israel's goal to spark a US-Iran war.

Now USA downs an Iranian drone - just as Paul starts a peace initiative. LOL.

h , Jul 18 2019 20:15 utc | 40

Speaking of Epstein, thought some here may find this very long, detailed article of interest. I can't vouch for it but damn if it doesn't provide background on the folks Epstein has surrounded himself with such as Ghislane Maxwell as well as ties to Israel and how he likely made a ton of dough -

The Most Valuable Commodity Today: Human Data – Robert Maxwell Understood Data - https://www.abeldanger.org/the-most-valuable-commodity-today-human-data-robert-maxwell-understood-data/

[Jul 19, 2019] American Race Hustle Is A Sure-Loser For Dems; Kunstler Warns Of Walking Time-Bomb Epstein

Notable quotes:
"... At the center of it all is former President Bill Clinton, listed twenty-six times on the Lolita Express's flight manifest -- though the ex-Prez said last week in a statement that it was only four times. (Consider the source.) ..."
"... A raft of unsealed documents in the matter has been court-ordered to drop any day, and power-players all over the world -- especially in our nation's capital and on Wall Street -- are rumored to be chewing their fingernails down to the nubbins as they wait for it. ..."
Jul 19, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

... Every candidate in the first Democratic “debate” raised a hand in favor of providing free medical care to illegal border-jumpers. I wonder how that sits with the Americans who now pay $12,000 a year for health insurance with a $5,000 deductible.

Of course, this policy of unfettered illegal immigration does not economically favor the sizable demographic of poor Americans, many of whom are people-of-color. In theory, the border-jumpers are taking away an awful lot of jobs. But I think the argument there is that 300 years of slavery gives bonafide US citizens-of-color a pass on manual labor - so it is not against their interests to ally with the open border advocates - while both groups have an interest in getting any free stuff the government may offer.

... ... ...

Finally, there is the walking time-bomb known as Jeffrey Epstein, Democratic Party poohbah and impresario of an underage sex racket featuring the "Lolita Express" airplane service to his private "Orgy Island" in the Caribbean, with auxiliary party shacks in New York City and the New Mexico Desert. Rogue reports have been styling Epstein's doings as an international blackmailing operation associated with the CIA and other Intel outfits, including the UK's MI6 and Israel's Mossad, for the purpose of keeping international bigshots on a short leash. Who knows?

At the center of it all is former President Bill Clinton, listed twenty-six times on the Lolita Express's flight manifest -- though the ex-Prez said last week in a statement that it was only four times. (Consider the source.)

A raft of unsealed documents in the matter has been court-ordered to drop any day, and power-players all over the world -- especially in our nation's capital and on Wall Street -- are rumored to be chewing their fingernails down to the nubbins as they wait for it.

What a cargo of wickedness is borne by the garbage barge called the Democratic Party as it chugs out to sea toward a sickening, slightly radioactive orange sunset for what is looking like its final voyage.

[Jul 19, 2019] Clintons and Epstein

Jul 19, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

Formerly T-Bear , Jul 19 2019 10:53 utc | 105

|@ Jackrabbit | Jul 18 2019 19:49 utc | 33

Have been studiously avoiding all things Epstein but it seems metastasising everywhere to the extent it eliminates all from serving jury duty at any trial.

Consider this: The timing is such that suggests an attempt to 'hole below the waterline' the Clinton machine [Billary is prime example that the species Homo Sapiens is the only one that is best led by the smallest protrusion below the waistline]. Recent U.S. history records the Clintons used the DLC (Democratic Leadership Committee) to ascend to the WhiteHouse.

The DLC subsumed and subverted the existing DNC (Democratic National Committee), replacing it entirely and still holds control over the Democratic Party itself. I think verification might be obtained by examining the makeup if the Democratic National Finance Committee and look at the membership of that committee and discern their loyalties.

In whom controls the money, you will find the control of the party. The re-emergence of the Epstein saga cannot help but expose the Clintons to that limelight and what would follow. This may be the only method to liberate the Democratic Party before the time removes the actors from the stage. Just my opinion - helpfully offered.


Mina , Jul 19 2019 11:27 utc | 106

Obviously Hillary could not use the Epstein case during her campaign since she had her own Anthony Weiner. And too many pictures of Bill with prostitutes around the net (one is said to be taken at Epstein resort in St James).
bevin , Jul 19 2019 13:32 utc | 114
"What the Epstein case reveals about the US is that either this country is so poor that it finds completely normal to have dozens, or rather hundreds, of 15 years old girl going directly from school to an old pervert's apartment 'give a massage' or more for 200 bucks or it wants to impose this kind of society as a model. "
Mina@99

That is it Mina: the problem, however, is not 'poverty' (the USA is very rich in relative terms) but inequality.

Prostitution is the very essence of capitalism: the teenager selling his/her transient sexual attractions; the 'loyal worker' tugging his forelock and thanking the Boss for 'giving him employment'; the NYTimes or Torstar journalist faithfully recording the propaganda leaked by the CIA; the politician...etc.

In a system in which everything is for sale why would not a nubile 15 year old sell the only thing that she can sell-in a seller's market?

The bases of the Epstein scandal are these: Capitalism and Hypocrisy. Capitalism forces people to sell themselves or starve, hypocrisy-of the sort exemplified in the mass pretense that young women only become sexually attractive after their 18th, 16th or twenty first birthdays (depending upon jurisdictions). It is hypocrisy that vastly increases the value of these liaisons, thus making it possible to persuade a man to betray his country rather than have it generally known that he employed a nubile young woman to 'massage' him.
It is a weird society in which Epstein is widely reviled for his sleazy practices while veterans of the appalling attack on Fallujah-including the Commanding Officer- are held to be honourable men.
As Robert Burns said "I'd rather give the life to one than be the death of twenty."

Acar Burak , Jul 19 2019 13:49 utc | 115
Hidden in Plain Sight: The Shocking Origins of the Jeffrey Epstein Case
Jackrabbit , Jul 19 2019 14:39 utc | 123
Mina @99: What the Epstein case reveals about the US ...

Bevin @114: Prostitution is the very essence of capitalism ...

The Epstein case is not about inequality, prostitution, or capitalism and doesn't "reveal" anything except how corrupt/corrupting ideologues (in this case, Zionists) are.

The women were lured with the prospect of giving massages and then coerced into sex and groomed for use in an influence operation - likely with Mossad knowledge and blessing. To blame anyone except those directly involved: Epstein, Ghislane/Mossad is finger-pointing that benefits the culprits.

See my comment @77 for more and my comment from the Epstein thread , which includes:

A smart minority group that seeks to push a country into illegal wars for their own purposes would anticipate some degree of backlash. Epstein compromised "people that matter" who might lead a backlash or could be useful to quell it.

The Mega Group sought to safeguard their position in American/Western society against a backlash - exactly what Epstein said his job was.

[Jul 17, 2019] What did Victoria s Secret Boss Wexner new about epstein and wht he knew it

Jul 17, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Originally from Victoria's Secret Boss Wexner Swears He Didn't Know About Epstein Penchant For Pedophilia

by Tyler Durden Tue, 07/16/2019 - 09:53 0 SHARES

Billionaire and former Jeffrey Epstein associate Les Wexner told his employees Monday that he regrets ever crossing paths with the disgraced pedophile financier, according to Bloomberg .

Wexner, founder of L Brands Inc. which owns Victoria's Secret, said in an internal email that he " was NEVER aware of the illegal activity " Epstein is accused of committing. "As you can imagine, this past week I have searched my soul ... reflected ... and regretted that my path ever crossed his. " said the 81-year-old mogul of Epstein.

After launching a business relationship in the 1980s, Wexner and Epstein formed 'a financial and personal bond that baffled longtime associates,' according to the New York Times .

"I think we both possess the skill of seeing patterns," Wexner told Vanity Fair in 2003. "But Jeffrey sees patterns in politics and financial markets, and I see patterns in lifestyle and fashion trends."

Wexner would go on to open doors for Epstein - who managed "many aspects of his financial life."

By 1995, Epstein was a director of the Wexner Foundation and Wexner Heritage Foundation and president of Wexner's N.A. Property Inc ., which developed the Ohio town of New Albany, where Wexner lives. Epstein also was involved in Wexner's superyacht, "Limitless," attending meetings at the London studios of the firm that designed the vessel. - Bloomberg

In the email to employees originally reported by the Columus Dispatch , Wexner says that he severed ties with Epstein nearly 12 years ago - after the financier pleaded guilty to a sex crime involving a teenage girl.

"I would never have guessed that a person I employed more than a decade ago could have caused such pain to so many people," Wexner said in the email. "I would not have continued to work with any individual capable of such egregious, sickening behavior as has been reported about him."

Yet, Epstein portrayed himself as a way for young models to perform sexual favors in exchange for a backdoor into Victoria's Secret . According to a former Manhattan-based modeling agent cited by the New York Post , " Some of those girls got in. "

"It was still significant cash for a young model doing the catalog," an agent told the Post . "They weren't making hundreds of thousands but they could make about $5,000 a week modeling for the campaigns or the catalog. Not all the girls sent to him got jobs, but a lot of them did."

Italian model Elisabetta Tai who claims Epstein tried to coerce her into performing sex acts in exchange for a Victoria's Secret gig.

In short, Wexner had an extremely close business relationship with Epstein - who allegedly engaged in sexual favors with girls, some of whom later worked for Wexner, yet the 81-year-old knew nothing of Epstein's proclivities.

Others have distanced as well, reports Bloomberg .

Others have also sought to distance themselves from Epstein in recent days, including hedge fund manager Glenn Dubin and his wife Eva Andersson-Dubin.

Andersson-Dubin, a former model who became a physician, previously dated Epstein and continued to socialize with him after his time in jail. Epstein had invested in Dubin's hedge fund and was also considered a friend. - Bloomberg

" The Dubins are horrified by the new allegations against Jeffrey Epstein," they said in a statement. " Had they been aware of the vile and unspeakable conduct described in these new allegations, they would have cut off all ties and certainly never have allowed their children to be in his presence."

And despite Epstein being a registered sex offender and pedophile, Andersson-Dubin thought he had rehabilitated himself and deserved a second chance.

"She is mortified that she, like so many others, was deceived by him, and feels terrible for the young women who have been harmed by his actions," reads their statement.

Former President Bill Clinton similarly 'disavowed' Epstein , claiming on Monday that he "knows nothing about the terrible crimes Jeffrey Epstein pleaded guilty to in Florida some years ago, or those with which he has been recently charged in New York."

Clinton also claimed that he's only been on Epstein's recently-sold 'Lolita Express' a total of four times , despite flight logs and pilot records clearly indicating otherwise.

According to research by investigative journalist Conchita Sarnoff, Clinton " was a guest of Epstein's 27 times, " adding "many of those times Clinton had his Secret Service with him and many times he did not."

And as the New York Times points out, despite Epstein's status as a registered sex offender beginning in 2008, and his 13 month work-release sweetheart prison stay, many people continued to associate with him.

Powerful female friends served as social guarantors: Peggy Siegal, a gatekeeper for A-list events, included him in movie screenings, and Dr. Eva Andersson-Dubin, a champion of women's health, maintained a friendship that some felt gave him credibility. Mr. Epstein put up a website showing Stephen Hawking and other luminaries at a science gathering he had organized.

" If you looked up Jeffrey Epstein online in 2012, you would see what we all saw ," Leon Botstein, the president of Bard College, said in an interview. He seemed "like an ex-con who had done well on Wall Street," who was close to the Clintons and gave money to academic pursuits, Dr. Botstein said. That was why, he noted, Bard accepted an unsolicited $50,000 in 2011 for its high schools, followed later that year and in 2012 by another $75,000 in donations. - NYT

Now that Epstein is decidedly radioactive, none of his past associates seemingly knew anything - and are horrified at the monster they never saw coming.


Crusader75 , 20 hours ago link

Shocked! Shocked! Your winnings, monsieur...

Yog Soggoth , 1 day ago link

From an important friend, " https://web.archive.org/web/20160304102302/http://theterramarproject.org/#tabs1-js

An archived link of the now-discontinued Terra Mar Project website reveals that members of the world's most wealthy families collectively threw in their support for Ghislaine Maxwell's Terra Mar project, a charity allegedly supporting the health of our oceans around the world. According to their website:

The TerraMar Project is a nonprofit ocean organization dedicated to building a global community built around our mutual love of the ocean and the need to protect and conserve the seas. We will use the power of our global community to be the voice that leads the clarion call for change on how we manage the ocean and the creatures that call it home.

Endorsements at the Bottom of the page came from members of several billionaire families, including:

Sir Richard Branson, David De Rothschild, Francesca von Habsburg, Shepard Fairey, Lord Peter Mandelson, Nick Pritzker, Leon Koffler, Jonathan Soros, Jacqueline and Mortimer Sackler (Purdue Pharma), Richard Rockefeller, Barry Diller.

Many of these names have been previoiusly named by Pizzagate researchers, including the Sackler family, who held events in Washington DC attended by Tony Podesta and James Alefantis. Ghislaine Maxwell is particularly interesting because her father, Robert Maxwell, has been associated with Mossad and MI6.

Most incredibly, however, this charity actually links David Brock and James Alefantis to Maxwell, the Rothschilds and a series of "Ocean Health" charities . A 2010 Washington Post article shows that the ex-couple hosted celebrity diver Philippe Cousteau at their Kalorama home . To quote from the article:

Fabien, a square-jawed 40-something, beseeched a young policy wonk/socialite crowd at the Kalorama home of writer David Brock and restaurateur James Alefantis Monday night to open their wallets as "armchair divers" for his new cause. Plant a Fish launched this month, in time for the original Cousteau's 100th birthday, with Fabien leading Brooklyn schoolchildren in a dive to seed new oyster beds in the Hudson.

Now what did Earth Echo International do in DC? They organized UNDERGROUND TOURS OF THE SEWER SYSTEM , meaning that a Rothschild-linked charity hosted an opening event at the Brock-Alefantis residence for programs hosting underground tours:

Join EarthEcho International and DC Water for a truly behind-the-scenes look at how the nation's capital is combatting its storm and wastewater pollution problems. Engineer James Wonneberg will take you 100 feet underground to explore Washington, DC's new stormwater tunnels: over 13 miles of massive tunnels that hold and treat storm and wastewater before it pollutes local waterways."

"Wow. Just wow." Pizzagate never died, it just got bigger.

Whoa Dammit , 1 day ago link

All of the people Epstein associated with knew what he was. They just didn't care.

Yog Soggoth , 1 day ago link

I disagree. The past 18 crowd cared very much about themselves. Saying that the young girls knew what he was, is why we have laws against that kind of thing. Most young people are not smart enough yet to make life decisions, and every single one should be afforded equal protection as decided by State.

Yog Soggoth , 1 day ago link

Something interesting search engines will not allow right now. Barr's father resigned as headmaster of Dalton Feb. 4th, 1974. Epstien got hired as a math teacher in the fall. We need a Way Way back machine here!

[Jul 17, 2019] Trump probably did not ordered Epstein's arrest, but Barr could as this is powerful card to pay against Clinton gang

Jul 17, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org
Tom Lawrence , Jul 14 2019 22:54 utc | 45

There is a great deal of 4D Chess-beating that Epstein is "Trump's revenge against the DNC" (Hillary) Steele dossier attempted coup, and 'now we'll drain the swamp!' Hoo-ahh!

I find that boast problematic. Trump could not (would not) have ordered Epstein's arrest. Those who serve the DNC within FBI (CIA-NSA) would have informed Epstein in advance, and no doubt, bleached Hillary and Bill and Clinton Foundation's servers before the arrest. So the order didn't come from Trump. And the 'lone prosecutor' and 'honest judge' theory is simply not possible in that district, where human trafficking, fashion industry and sex slavery is one of their biggest profit pipelines.

It has to be a DNC Hail Mary. DNC needs to impeach Trump so badly, they've already committed treason! The 2011 Budget Control Act keeps the lid on Federal spending, but only until 2021. That's why DNC is desperately trying to seize the reins of power for 2020-2024, when the budget caps come off, then it's laissez les bon temps roulez! and $5,000 BILLION a year Fed bleedout, at 10% increase every year Open Boarders Green New Steal, ...until USA folds under the sheer grift of the Social Democrats.

That griftfest was actually their plan way back in 2016 with Rodham. But wait! There's MOAre!

Not once in 80 years has a president who supported Pentagon-MIC-AIPAC **NOT** been re-elected!

- Kennedy: refused to start a war with Cuba -- assassinated
- Johnson: could not stomach Kissinger-Pol Pot -- gone
- Carter: refused to start a war in Iran -- gone
- George HW Bush: tried to cut Pentagon budget in half after Soviets fell -- gone

Since Roosevelt in 1933, every president who supported Pentagon-MIC-AIPAC got re-elected!

So Democrats have an APPROACHING ZERO chance of winning in 2020. Biden is their one shot, and he's a perv peacenik! DNC are using Epstein virus to white-wash Old Joe, and to flog Trump in a desperate attempt to lure the Single White Female block, after an astounding poll came out that 69% of Democrat voters are TURNED OFF BY SOCIAL DEMOCRATS and their 'Free Stuff' and 'Open Borders' Antifa Bolshevism.

2020 will be the End of Days for one Party or the other. Whoever wins will ride the Golden Chariot of Blowout Spending, but the loser ... the loser gets only a mouthful of sand. DNC's only chance to survive is to impeach (or assassinate) Trump, by hook or by crook.

Paging Ms. Clinton, please come to the Red Phone! /s

[Jul 17, 2019] Epstein Sexually Abused Girls During Work-Release Jail Sentence; Settled With Accusers For Millions

This is really over the top...
Jul 17, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

During a Tuesday press conference in New York City, Edwards introduced a woman named Courtney Wild, who says Epstein began abusing her when she was 14-years-old, according to Business Insider .

Edwards said during the press conference that he raised the accusation to challenge the idea that Epstein was a model citizen while in jail. Edwards also said that Epstein was in his office most of the day during his 18-month sentence, of which he served 13 months, and that he had female visitors under the age of 21 .

Edwards said Epstein had sexual interactions with the female visitors that constituted abuse and were similar in nature to the abuses described in the indictment and charges Epstein faces in court, which are one count of sex trafficking of minors and one count of conspiracy to engage in sex trafficking of minors. - Business Insider

https://www.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FCBS12News%2Fvideos%2F2403959823155915%2F&show_text=0&width=560

Wild appeared in court on Monday during Epstein's bail hearing, saying "I was sexually abused by Jeffrey Epstein starting at the age of 14," while standing just feet from the pedophile money manager.

Meanwhile, Bloomberg reveals that Epstein paid millions of dollars to silence accusers - including Wild.

Some of Epstein's civil settlements exceeded $1 million, according to a person with knowledge of the matter. Three were for a total of $5.5 million, court records show . The total amount of Epstein's civil payments is unknown, but it's likely a small fraction of the $559 million that prosecutors say Epstein has claimed as his net worth.

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More than two dozen lawsuits were ultimately resolved in private settlements after Epstein signed a non-prosecution agreement in 2008 that allowed him and four accomplices to avoid federal charges. - Bloomberg

Epstein's attorneys also used aggressive tactics with the women, according to the report - interviewing friends, neighbors and employers in abusive ways. The girls were grilled about their lives - including criminal records, drug use, and in one case - a history of abortions.

"Does it give you any, any emotional pain that you aborted three fetuses?" asked Epstein attorney Mark Luttier. "Wouldn't you agree with me that aborting three fetuses would be far more traumatic than giving a man a massage in the nude?" he asked.

Meanwhile, Epstein's publicist fed stories to the media "impugning the credibility of the victims" which suggested that their "allegations of abuse were made solely to extract money."

According to the New York Post , Epstein also approached New York City publicist R. Couri Hay several years ago to 'beg for help with his image,' allegedly saying "I don't want 'billionaire pervert' to be the first line of my obituary."

Of note, Epstein is not a billionaire .

Hay's advice? Go to a mental-health facility for a year, donate to charity, meet the Pope and go meet with his rabbi. Now that he faces up to 45 years in the slammer, he may also want to engage a prison coach .


Spinifex , 1 hour ago link

Epstein Sexually Abused Girls During Work-Release Jail Sentence;

It's called a 'Breach of Conditions' and it NULL AND VOIDS ALL AGREEMENTS. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. Do not think you can get off!

Break your conditions and you go to jail. Break the law and you goto jail. What the hell is with U.$. Prosocutors who DON'T APPLY THE LAW.

June 12 1776 , 2 hours ago link

No such thing as the national government, No Rule of Law, crooked lawyer's "no prosecution agreements," with the People's "court".

Ghislaine Maxwell.

Jdhank , 2 hours ago link

Remember, Trump signed his Exec.Order allowing the federal gov't to confiscate (attainture) the assets of persons who commit trafficking in persons and pedo' crimes; I don't remember the specifics.

Confiscating Epstein's and the Clinton's wealth WILL be GLORIOUS!

Blue Boat , 2 hours ago link

Yep, and you know an interesting factoid about that EO that was signed late Dec 2017? Eric Schmidt, CEO of Google resigned the next day. Maybe unrelated but there had been no prior announcement that he was going to.

Give Me Some Truth , 2 hours ago link

To prove that Epstein was involved in "trafficking" at his Virgin Island islands and at his New Mexico ranch, it seems to me the government would need to secure search warrants and thoroughly search and inspect these properties. Something that has not happened to date (as far as I know).

But, yes, under the law, any property involved in trafficking can be forfeited to the government. So why not also investigate what was going on at these places?

Of course to do this the government would also have to investigate the people who were visiting these places.

Give Me Some Truth , 3 hours ago link

I just watched the NBC footage of Epstein and Trump laughing it up together at Mar-A-Lago in 1992. One take-aways from this video:

Epstein is much thinner (less muscle-bound) than he later became. This adds credence to what one of his alleged victims said - that Epstein was probably a steroid user. This girl noted that he was real "built up" or "thick" from weight-lifting.

So the guy is calling girls for massages up to three times a day, and also apparently pumping a lot of iron. When did the guy have time to be a "hedge fund money manager?" I thought this was supposed to be some time-consuming job.

Anyway, note the difference in his physique - circa 1992 and circa 2008.

If he is/was a droid head, this probably affected his behavior/personality.

Link:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tape-shows-donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-discussing-women-1992-party-n1030686

Give Me Some Truth , 2 hours ago link

Epstein looks like he put on at least 30 pounds. But not of fat, muscle. Just like Barry Bonds or just like Tiger Woods, who once was a string bean and then one day he suddenly looked like an NFL free safety.

So I'd also investigate any potential steroid dealers in Epstein's life/circle of friends.

alfbell , 3 hours ago link

If this is all true, man this guy had more sex drive than 100 men put together. What a maniac. Obsessed. Scary guy.

Give Me Some Truth , 3 hours ago link

But still he allegedly had time to become a "billionaire hedge fund manager."

See my post above: He's also had plenty of time to pump a lot of iron.

[Jul 17, 2019] What a terrific guy Jeffrey Epstein is

Epstein puts a black shadow on Trump.
Jul 17, 2019 | www.nytimes.com

archer717 Portland, OR July 8

"In 2002, Mr. Trump described Mr. Epstein as "a terrific guy." "He's a lot of fun to be with," Mr. Trump told New York Magazine. "It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side." I wonder how this will play with Trump's base and the Oh so holy evangelicals. Any comment Senator McConnell ?
Larry Buchas New Britain, CT July 8
"Terrific guy." - Donald J. Trump Alex Acosta, current Labor Secretary, allowed Epstein to walk. There's more to this pedophile ring. The public demands a complete investigation. Just don't give it to Congress.

Elizabeth
Roslyn, NY July 8
Of course he is a flight risk. Owner of a private jet recently returned from Paris. He could just fly away to some non extradition country or his private island and say 'see ya later suckers'. Child pornography was found at his home. He's been free since 2011. What does anyone think this criminal has been up to? I'm sorry we are just not That stupid.

Full disclosure of all proceedings is only one small part of the 'justice' that must finally be applied to this creep. No secret deals. That mansion is serious, pricey NYC real estate. We are talking major, major bucks. Epstein will use that wad to buy the best defense he can which is his right. But he should not be allowed to buy secrecy.

Treat him like any other perp. Put him in an orange jumpsuit and try him in a public court. I do not care who his disgusting pals are. No more hiding. Sunlight is the only disinfectant that can begin to wash away the appalling stain of the Epstein case for the past decade.

Nancie San Diego July 8
So many "terrific guys" and gals surround trump. He must be overwhelmed by the brilliance of these friends. Cohen, Manafort, Epstein, Acosta, Sanders, Conway, Miller, Bannon, Flynn, Pruitt, Gorka, Price, Zinke, DeVos, Duke, Kushner, et al - all fine people, like the white supremacists in Charlottesville. Not fine to trump: Pres. Obama, Robert Mueller, Sen. McCain, Sen. Elizabeth Warren, VP Biden, NYT, Washington Post, the press, all democrats in the United States, James Comey, Frank Bruni...on and on and on.

nom de guerre
Kirkwood, MO July 8
@Greg Jones And Ken Starr, who served as an Epstein defense lawyer along with Dershowitz. The very man who spent millions of taxpayer money publicizing each lurid detail of Clinton's affair with above legal age of consent Lewinsky was paid well to cover up Epstein's sexual abuse of underage girls. The epitome of hypocrisy. His affair with Lewinsky wasn't illegal; his denial of the affair to Congress was, but Starr had a political vendetta under the guise of "morality". Not that Clinton's role, if any, in this story is known - hopefully the truth will emerge and he will be either cleared or convicted.

Dave T.
The California Desert July 8
What's so incredibly vile about this is that he got off with a light wrist slap in Florida and - wait for it - he's still doing it. He is so arrogant that he kept pictures of his victims to this day. Many thanks to SDNY for pursuing this case. Please, please nail him and all who participated/enabled him. This sordid case is a metaphor for our Gilded Age II.
CLee, Oregon, July 8
@EC

I'm surprised the reporting here is so light on the web of friends that Epstein has and their involvement in the sexual assaults of these girls. Epstein kept a book of contacts- basically, a 92 page Who's Who of people who attended his parties in Florida and New York and flew to his island on his private jet. Hollywood actors, financiers, attorneys, a prince, Trump, Clinton, Alan Dershowitz, among many, many others.

It also kept details of the likes and dislikes of his buddies. It was known that at these parties that the girls were sent upstairs and guests were brought up by a handler to supply towels, lotions, etc. This book can be viewed quite easily if you Google it.

Trump indeed is involved and there is an affidavit filed by two women- one the victim of a brutal rape and beating of a then 13-year-old-girl first by Trump, next by Epstein. It was all witnessed by another young girl. The affidavit itself is quite horrific. For more detailed reporting, read the three-part series from the Miami Herald. These journalists kept this story alive because they believed in these young women. James Patterson also wrote a book, Filthy Rich, about Epstein and his web of girls.

Many were homeless or from very poor families and were lured in with the promise of money for school clothes and books.

Little did they know that they were being groomed for rape by Epstein and his dozens and dozens of high-powered friends.


Charlotte Amalie Oklahoma July 8

Again, news that makes you wonder how deep this boys club goes. In his Playboy interview in 1987, Gore Vidal said that the genius of our ruling class is that "they're so brilliant that no one knows they even exist." He went on to defend himself from accusations that he's a conspiracy theorist. "'You think they get together at the Bohemian Grove and run the United States.' Well, they do get together at the Bohemian Grove and do a lot of picking of Secretaries of State, anyway. But they don't have to conspire. They all think alike." Don't know what the Bohemian Grove is? Look it up.
lleit Portland, OR July 8
Labor trafficking is a horrific crime. Sex trafficking is more horrific whether it is occurring a strip mall "spa" in Jupiter, Florida or the mansion of some rich white guy in New York City. How do the men who participate in this not understand that?? Girls are NOT play toys. Meanwhile back in January, the President of the United States said, "This is an urgent humanitarian issue. My administration is committed to leveraging every resource we have to confront this threat, to support the victims and survivors, and to hold traffickers accountable for their heinous crimes." Except when they are your friends. And you have a Secretary of Labor who, as a prosecutor, let at least one trafficker off with a hand slap.
stevenjv San Francisco, Calif July 8
@Dennis W The slap on the wrist was administered by Miami's top federal prosecutor Alex Acosta (today trump's Labor secretary) who ironically is responsible for monitoring human trafficking.
Karn Griffen Riverside, CA July 9 Times Pick
Acosta must be investigated here. He is the key figure in this horrible case. 3 Replies
northwestman Eugene, OR July 8
A man is involved in casino ownership and construction, two of the dirtier businesses--- and he has a history of going broke and stiffing his contractors. He also owned a modeling agency and beauty pageant and was known for spontaneously entering the changing rooms between events and ogling the (sometimes) underage participants. Many women have come forward accusing him of sexual crimes, including that of rape. This man has an associate that now is under indictment for sex trafficking charges. Can someone help me connect these dots?
marvinhjeglin hemet, californa July 8
This case conclusively demonstrates that the rule of law does not prevail in America. Law enforcement and the courts operate two separate justice systems: One for the powerful and rich and another for the 99% per cent. AG Acosta not have cut the same deal a poor citizen, charged with just one instance of Epstein'[s conduct. Instead, for a single instance, it would be 10 years in prison, without an office furlough at 85% per cent (15% reduction in time for good behavior).

Hopefully Epstein is finished now, and the other powerful persons sweat. In my view, Acosta should be charged with misprision, US Code Title 18, Part 1,Chapter 1, Section 4 "Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both."

The court has already found the Epstein Agreement negotiated by Acosta violated the law. So much for the "rule of law", just words on paper, like the Constitution. us army 1969-1971/california jd

[Jul 17, 2019] Jeffrey Epstein Is Indicted on Sex Charges as Discovery of Nude Photos Is Disclosed by Ali Watkins

Jul 08, 2019 | www.nytimes.com

[Read our previous coverage of the arrest of Jeffrey Epstein .]

A trove of lewd photographs of girls, discovered in a safe inside the financier Jeffrey Epstein's Manhattan mansion the same day he was arrested, is deepening questions about why federal prosecutors in Miami had cut a deal that shielded him from federal prosecution in 2008.

Federal prosecutors in Manhattan charged Mr. Epstein on Monday with sex trafficking , dealing an implicit rebuke to that plea agreement, which was overseen by Alexander Acosta, then the United States attorney in Miami and now President Trump's labor secretary.

The indictment in Manhattan could prompt a moment of reckoning for the Justice Department, which for years has wrestled with accusations that it mishandled the earlier case and has faced a barrage of litigation from Mr. Epstein's accusers . In February, the Justice Department opened its own internal review into the matter.

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Listen to 'The Daily': United States v. Jeffrey Epstein

Hosted by Michael Barbaro, produced by Clare Toeniskoetter and Michael Simon Johnson, and edited by Larissa Anderson

The financier, long accused of sexually assaulting underage girls, has been shielded from federal charges for decades. Now, in the #MeToo era, a new indictment has revived the case.

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Archived Recording (Geoffrey Berman)

Epstein is charged in a two-count indictment -- first, conspiracy to commit sex trafficking, and second, the substantive crime of sex trafficking of underage girls.

Patricia Mazzei

According to prosecutors, Epstein created this network between 2002 and 2005.

Archived Recording (Geoffrey Berman)

The victims were all underage girls at the time of the alleged conduct.

Patricia Mazzei

In which he invited girls -- underage girls -- into his mansion in New York and in Palm Beach, and he paid them to give him nude massages.

Archived Recording (Geoffrey Berman)

These massages became increasingly sexual in nature and would typically include one or more sex acts, as specified in the indictment.

Patricia Mazzei

Those encounters often ended in masturbation, oral sex and, in at least one case, rape.

Archived Recording (Geoffrey Berman)

As alleged, Epstein also paid certain victims to recruit additional girls to be similarly abused.

Patricia Mazzei

And he also paid them to recruit more girls that could come to his house, therefore creating this sort of ever-expanding network of sex trafficking.

Archived Recording (Geoffrey Berman)

The alleged behavior shocks the conscience. And while the charged conduct is from a number of years ago, it is still profoundly important to the many alleged victims, now young women. They deserve their day in court, and we are proud to be standing up for them by bringing this indictment.

Patricia Mazzei

And the prosecutors said that even though some of these encounters happened a long time ago, that some of this is old, these girls, who are now women, deserve their day in court.

Archived Recording (Geoffrey Berman)

Thank you.

Michael Barbaro

So the prosecutor in New York makes a point of saying, this alleged behavior dates back years and years -- basically to 2002. So why are we just seeing these charges today?

Patricia Mazzei

That's the key question, Michael. Because what is stunning about this case when you listen to the U.S. attorney in New York on Monday is that it sounded so familiar to allegations made against Jeffrey Epstein in Florida more than a decade ago. In that case, the girls in Florida did not get their day in court. But the story of how the Florida case against Epstein unraveled is one of the reasons why we are here today talking about this case against him in New York.

Michael Barbaro

So what exactly is the story of what happened in Florida?

Patricia Mazzei

The story begins in 2005 when a girl and her parents go to the police in Palm Beach and tell them that she has been molested by Epstein and paid for it. And the police start investigating. And what they find is not just one girl, but many girls with stories about being molested by Epstein. And some girls just lead to more girls. And so they wind up with what they think is a very big case on their hands. They take it to the state attorney, but, eventually, the police feel like Epstein might not get as harsh of a charge as they would like, given the number of victims that they have seen. And concerned about that, they take the case to the F.B.I. and say, help us. We think there is a big case here.

Michael Barbaro

And why do the local police have that suspicion, that Epstein will not be appropriately charged? What exactly did they fear?

Patricia Mazzei

They become anxious that either because of Epstein's wealth or name in the community or the fact that he didn't have a criminal history, that he just might not be charged as strongly as they think he should be charged. For example, that instead of some sort of sex abuse charge, he might end up with something like soliciting prostitution that would elicit a less harsh penalty.

Michael Barbaro

So what does the F.B.I. do when the police bring this case to them?

Patricia Mazzei

The F.B.I. starts investigating and finds more victims and victims corroborating the stories that the police had found. Stories about massages and nude massages and payment for these massages that ended up in various sex acts and a web of recruitment where one girl would be paid by Epstein and his associates to bring in more girls to his Palm Beach house for these massages. And, eventually, the U.S. attorney's office in Miami, which, at the time, was run by a man named Alex Acosta, drafts a 53-page indictment against Epstein.

Michael Barbaro

And what does this indictment say?

Patricia Mazzei

The indictment lays out these allegations of sex trafficking against minors and carries a potential punishment of up to life in prison.

Michael Barbaro

It's a serious indictment.

Patricia Mazzei

Yeah, it was pretty thorough.

Michael Barbaro

And so what happens?

Patricia Mazzei

So weeks go by and then months go by. And finally, in 2008, the victims learn that there will be no federal criminal indictment against Epstein. Unbeknown to the victims, behind the scenes, Epstein and his high-powered defense lawyers had negotiated with federal prosecutors so that they would not charge him in federal court. They negotiated what is called a non-prosecution agreement. And so in the end, Epstein pleaded guilty to a single count of soliciting prostitution in state court. He had to register as a sex offender. He had to pay financial restitution to some of his victims. And he got 18 months in county jail, in which he could leave six days a week to go to work.

Michael Barbaro

Leave prison six days a week -- just kind of walk out of jail and go to work?

Patricia Mazzei

Yeah, it was an extraordinary arrangement. It raised eyebrows even at the time, but the prosecutor said it was how they were going to guarantee that Epstein served some time in jail and that he register as a sex offender, which they viewed as important to help the community around him.

Michael Barbaro

So the local police brought this case originally to the F.B.I. because they were worried that the state attorney would be rolled over by Epstein -- by his wealth, by all his connections, and his fancy lawyers -- and that he would get a sweetheart deal.

Patricia Mazzei

Prosecutors would tell you that they did their best, and that meant sending Epstein to jail. But, in the end, he faced a prostitution charge in state court and not a sex trafficking charge in federal court. And that's exactly what the Palm Beach police worried could happen at the start of the case.

Michael Barbaro

But with the F.B.I. and the federal prosecutors.

Patricia Mazzei

Right -- the people who they had turned to for help.

Michael Barbaro

Pati, you said that this was unknown to the victims. Why would that be?

Patricia Mazzei

The victims were not given a chance to speak up against this agreement before it was signed. It was essentially just negotiated between Epstein's attorneys and the prosecution. And so the victims didn't find out until after the fact and after Epstein had already agreed to the plea deal.

Michael Barbaro

And what's the reaction from the victims who have been cut out of this plea agreement and are now learning that he's going to be facing an unusually light sentence?

Patricia Mazzei

The victims are outraged. And as soon as they find out about this non-prosecution deal in 2008, they go to court asking for the agreement to be nullified -- for them to get their day in court. And this argument turns into years of legal battles over what was negotiated in secret that the victims did not know about.

Michael Barbaro

And what's going on with Epstein during this time -- as this battle over the plea agreement is playing out in courts?

Patricia Mazzei

Epstein gets out of jail about five months early. He reportedly has a party to celebrate his return to society. And he has to register as a sex offender. But, other than that, he basically goes back to his old life. He had his lavish lifestyle that he continued -- traveling between his properties in New York and Palm Beach and the Virgin Islands. And the case kind of receded from public view for years, until President Trump asks Alex Acosta, the former top prosecutor in Miami who reached the secret deal not to indict Epstein with federal charges, to be his labor secretary.

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Archived Recording

You are aware that Mr. Epstein served that 13 months. He was allowed out during the day, and he had to sleep at a county jail, but he was basically allowed to move and go around the community and do whatever he wants. And then that became a subject of significant criticism.

Archived Recording (Alexander Acosta)

And I am on record condemning that, and I think that was awful.

Patricia Mazzei

Despite those questions, Acosta gets confirmed by the Senate and becomes the labor secretary, which he still is now. But The Miami Herald, his hometown paper, decides that it's going to dig even deeper into the Epstein case and see what happened, especially now that not only is Acosta the labor secretary, but that the #MeToo movement has happened. And that, perhaps, these victims, who are now young women, might be willing to talk publicly for the first time.

Michael Barbaro

And what does The Herald find?

Archived Recording

The Herald is reporting that Acosta gave a sweetheart deal to a wealthy man accused of sex crimes, including sexually abusing underage girls.

Patricia Mazzei

The Herald's investigation, which was published in late 2018, found a trove of documents showing how the secret non-prosecution agreement was negotiated.

Archived Recording

The paper found that as a U.S. attorney in Florida in 2007, Acosta and another federal prosecutor struck a plea deal with Epstein's legal team.

Patricia Mazzei

And the documents show Epstein's defense lawyers being chummy with prosecutors on a first-name basis, while the victims didn't know anything about what was going on.

Archived Recording

I was young. I was scared. I knew these people were powerful. I didn't know what would happen if I said no. I didn't know what would happen if I reported them. That 16-year-old girl just let it happen.

Patricia Mazzei

In addition to that, The Herald finds more victims, and victims who are going on the record for the first time now that they're adults.

Archived Recording

It takes a long time to start the healing process. I mean, I will never heal. There are pieces for me that can never be put back together.

Patricia Mazzei

And the combination of the behind-the-scenes communications about this agreement and the additional victims and the victims putting a face and details to these allegations starts to build new public pressure for something to be done in the case. And it's not long after that Miami Herald report that something else happens. That lawsuit that the victims in Florida had filed seeking to invalidate the secret non-prosecution agreement, a judge finally issues a ruling. And he rules in the women's favor. He says the prosecutors made a mistake in not letting them know that this was being negotiated.

Michael Barbaro

And by prosecutors, you mean Alex Acosta, who is now the United States labor secretary.

Patricia Mazzei

That's correct. The judge ruled that Acosta and his office violated the victims' rights by not letting them know about this secret deal that they had negotiated with Epstein. And that's where everything was until we got to Monday in New York.

Michael Barbaro

Is that what led the U.S. attorney in New York to bring these charges on Monday?

Patricia Mazzei

We don't know, exactly. That case is still pending in Florida. What we do know is that the prosecutor in New York apparently found a new victim in his jurisdiction. And that seems to be a primary driver in his decision to pursue this case now. And it's possible for him to also draw in some of the allegations from Florida into his case. We know that he went out of his way to say on Monday that the non-prosecution agreement in Florida does not apply to them in New York. But it is key to note that they have found a victim there, and so that gives a new dimension to their findings.

Michael Barbaro

So it's possible that these girls, now women, in Florida, who alleged that Jeffrey Epstein had done these things to them and who were kind of boxed out of this non-prosecution agreement, that they may be drawn into this case and have their day in court here in New York.

Patricia Mazzei

Possibly. We're going to have to wait and see, given this sort of tricky dynamic between having somebody in the Justice Department in New York signing off on a new case that had been sort of closed and done by somebody in the Justice Department in Miami.

Michael Barbaro

It seems like the U.S. attorney in New York is saying something about how the case was handled in Florida.

Patricia Mazzei

It sounded like the U.S. attorney in New York was implying that this case maybe wasn't handled so well the first time around, either by his predecessors in New York or by his colleagues in Florida. And that now, he has another shot. They get a do-over here, and they plan to take it. And they have a chance to make things right for all these victims after all these years.

Michael Barbaro

Pati, you've been covering this case as a reporter in Florida for years. What do you make of these latest developments?

Patricia Mazzei

To me, it's an illustration of how society has changed in the time since this case first came up and now. I think between the #MeToo movement that has exposed some very powerful men and their behavior towards women, I think some of society's impatience now with, perhaps, wealthy people having a bigger say in the criminal justice system than people who don't have money. And it's also just interesting that the charge Epstein faced was for soliciting prostitution.

Michael Barbaro

Right. I'm so struck by the fact that the resolution of that first Florida case was a prostitution charge, which meant that prosecutors there essentially labeled a minor, who was allegedly paid for sex by Jeffrey Epstein, as a prostitute, not a victim.

Patricia Mazzei

Actually, the former police chief in Palm Beach, whose department first started investigating this, has said that what he would really like to see here, in addition to an apology to the victims, who did not get what he would consider timely justice, he would like to see lawmakers keep that from happening again. He would like to make it impossible for prosecutors to treat minors like prostitutes in future cases like this one, to prevent what he considers was a miscarriage of justice.

Michael Barbaro

Pati, where is Jeffrey Epstein right now?

Patricia Mazzei

He is in jail in New York -- and not the kind of jail where you could leave every day to go to work like he was in Florida. And he faces the prospect of up to 45 years in prison if this case moves forward and he's found guilty.

Michael Barbaro

Pati, thank you very much.

Patricia Mazzei

Thank you, Michael.

Michael Barbaro

On Monday, federal investigators said they had found hundreds of photographs of nude and partially nude young women and girls inside Jeffrey Epstein's New York home. After reviewing the photos, prosecutors said that Epstein, quote, "is not reformed. He is not chastened. He is not repentant. Rather, he is a continuing danger to the community." Shortly after, Epstein pleaded not guilty in federal court. Later on Monday, Attorney General Bill Barr was asked about how Alex Acosta, the former U.S. attorney in Florida and now the president's secretary of labor, had handled the original Epstein case in Florida. Barr declined to comment. We'll be right back. Here's what else you need to know today. In a highly unusual move, the government lawyers defending the president's efforts to ask about citizenship on the 2020 census have left the case, apparently in protest. The lawyers had been asked to defend the question despite a recent ruling by the Supreme Court that found that there was no legal basis for including the question. And in Sudan, military leaders and protesters have reached an unexpected agreement to share power after the military carried out a deadly crackdown on the protesters. Under the agreement, an army general will run Sudan for nearly two years, followed by a civilian leader for the next year and a half. The plan offers the possibility of an eventual transition to democracy after 30 years of dictatorship. That's it for "The Daily." I'm Michael Barbaro. See you tomorrow. Listen 26:00

Eric Holland, the deputy assistant secretary of labor for public affairs, said on Monday that Mr. Acosta had no comment. The House speaker, Nancy Pelosi, said late Monday night that Mr. Acosta should resign because of the "unconscionable agreement" that he made with Mr. Epstein in 2008.

Late on Tuesday morning, Mr. Acosta, writing on Twitter, defended his actions a decade ago. With the evidence available at the time, he said, his prosecutors had insisted Mr. Epstein go to jail and register as a sex offender. He called the financier's crimes "horrific."

"Now that new evidence and additional testimony is available, the N.Y. prosecution offers an important opportunity to more fully bring him to justice," he wrote.

Secretary Acosta @SecretaryAcosta · Jul 9, 2019 Replying to @SecretaryAcosta

With the evidence available more than a decade ago, federal prosecutors insisted that Epstein go to jail, register as a sex offender and put the world on notice that he was a sexual predator.

Secretary Acosta @SecretaryAcosta

Now that new evidence and additional testimony is available, the NY prosecution offers an important opportunity to more fully bring him to justice.

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Accusations of sexual predation have dogged Mr. Epstein for decades. Until his arrest on Saturday, his case had been held up as a prime example of how insulated, powerful men can escape accountability.

Mr. Epstein , a hedge fund manager, avoided the possibility of a lengthy prison sentence, largely because of a secret agreement his lawyers struck with federal prosecutors in 2008. His social circle is filled with the rich and famous, including former President Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew of Britain.

Mr. Clinton's office said in a statement on Monday that he knows nothing about "the terrible crimes" connected to Mr. Epstein.

In 2002, Mr. Trump described Mr. Epstein as "a terrific guy," telling New York Magazine , "It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."

As he unsealed an indictment charging Mr. Epstein with sex trafficking on Monday, the United States attorney in Manhattan, Geoffrey S. Berman, made an appeal to other women who may have been abused by him to come forward.

"They deserve their day in court and we are proud to stand up for them by bringing this indictment," Mr. Berman said.

He declined to say why his office decided to pursue charges against Mr. Epstein now, since federal prosecutors knew about his potential crimes in New York a decade ago. Mr. Berman said his office had been "assisted by some excellent investigative journalists," an apparent reference to The Miami Herald's reporting from November .

The indictment said that Mr. Epstein and his employees engaged in a sex-trafficking scheme, bringing dozens of vulnerable girls, some as young as 14, to his Upper East Side mansion and to his palatial compound in Palm Beach, Fla., between 2002 and 2005.

Mr. Epstein, 66, then engaged in sex acts with the young women during naked massage sessions, paying them hundreds of dollars in cash, prosecutors said. He also asked some of the girls to recruit other girls, many of whom prosecutors say were underage, and paid them for bringing in new victims, the indictment said.

"This conduct, as alleged, went on for years and involved dozens of young girls, some as young as 14," Mr. Berman said. "The alleged behavior shocks the conscience."

Mr. Epstein is charged with sex trafficking and sex trafficking conspiracy, and faces a combined maximum sentence of up to 45 years in prison if convicted.

[Read the indictment .]

Mr. Epstein's lawyer, Reid Weingarten, said the allegations in the indictment had already been settled in 2008. "To us this indictment is essentially a do-over," he said. "This is old stuff. This is ancient stuff."

Mr. Epstein, looking disheveled in a navy blue jumpsuit, pleaded not guilty. He stared silently ahead as prosecutors outlined the charges, never glancing at the packed courtroom behind him. He is expected back in court on Thursday.

The discovery of the photo trove was detailed by prosecutors as they argued against allowing Mr. Epstein to be freed on bail. His wealth and means -- including six homes and two private jets -- made him a significant flight risk, they said.


Deb CT July 9 Times Pick

Secretary Acosta, now calling Epstein's crimes 'horrific", but let Epstein plead to a charge of prostitution, carrying a much lesser sentence. Epstein was allowed to leave jail 6 days a week for 12 hours a day. No child of the age of 14 can be a prostitute, no matter if money was exchanged for sex. These girls were raped and abused. Secretary Acosta needs to step down immediately. No one can give an incredibly generous plea deal to a remorseless child molester and still expect to hold the public's trust. He failed Jeffrey Epstein's victims. He failed the people of South Florida. He cannot continue to serve. Why is every single republican such a hypocrite?
Karn Griffen Riverside, CA July 9 Times Pick
Acosta must be investigated here. He is the key figure in this horrible case.
ModerateOne DC July 9 Times Pick
So, if they were able to go back into a previously settled case and retry Bill Cosby, who is now in jail, then they should be able to do the same to Mr. Epstein. Bill Cosby was also once 'untouchable' and received some dubious legal deals, but , in the end, he got his just desserts. And even now, some question the legality of how Mr. Cosby was retried and subsequently received jail time. If it was good for Mr. Cosby, who was also rich and influential, then it should be good for Mr. Epstein. He should also finally face his long overdue day of reckoning.
TM Boston, MA July 9 Times Pick
Thank goodness for brave reporters. But we have all protected the Epsteins of the world for too long. We all protect the Epsteins of the world when we show that we value riches and status over all else. Our churches, our legal system, our colleges, our very laws, do more to protect the rich than the vulnerable. Someone without status in our country can suffer more for public urination than Epstein has so far for his horrific crimes. The way we, as a culture, value status above all else, paves the way for the Epsteins of the world to thrive. We can clutch our pearls all we want to, but when we clamor for admission to an elite school, buy houses and cars we can't afford, buy knockoff designer goods we know were made by foreign children, because we are desperate to show that we have status, we create a culture where status is the only protection; we show that we value perceived status over integrity, financial solvency, decency, justice, peace, even over the safety of our children. The fact that status is our number one value lay the path for Trump to be elected. The fake billionaire promised to restore status to those who felt that the little they had had been robbed from them by minorities, women, gays. And while many of us are horrified with the results, everything we do that shows that we, too, value perceived status over anything else, makes us part of this problem. If we did not adore the rich and powerful, they would not have so much power.

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Elizabeth Grey Yonkers New York July 9 Times Pick
I've more than a few questions; but my main one is why we continue to put up with a government that has shielded this pedophile, headed by a President accused of sexual assault himself? Trump & Acosta would resign if there were a shred of decency in either of them. Putting up with their leadership is unequivocally abusive to over half of the population of the United States.
DooDah BC Canada July 9 Times Pick
If you can afford Epstein's lawyers his sentence is the kind of outcome you expect. His lawyers dictated to Acosta the sentence they would accept. Acosta was rewarded and part of the service was to insure everything was kept quiet all those years.
MarkyT Toronto July 9 Times Pick
The Epstein saga reminds me of that long-running joke (and movie) The Aristocrats. A joke so filthy and disgusting that it's been told, retold and embellished for decades. What's that saying about many a truth told in jest? Epstein shows there's moral debauchery that comes with obscene wealth. The 1 per cent have lost their ethical bearings. Good journalism has shined some antiseptic light on this perversion of justice. Well done.
SHAKINSPEAR In a Thoughtful state July 9 Times Pick
I have no confidence in the validity of this investigation that appears to me to be a retaliation against Democrats by the political Trump Justice Department. The motive is glaringly apparent. Aside from the political motivations of this case, the Press conference was clearly an attempt at tampering with the potential Jury pool, national in scope.
EM Tempe,AZ July 9 Times Pick
Let no one be above the law. Victims need to have their day in court. Search his other homes and hide-outs, and don't let him post bail or plea out. Sordid to say the least. I hope there is justice.
Donna Nieckula Minnesota July 8 Times Pick
@Richard This is not a Democratic or Republican issue... in spite of many political comments to this article. This is about wealthy, well-connected men and boys who are sexual predators with perverse predilections for girls and young women. This is about wealthy and well-connected predators who, when caught, may never face trial... and who, if tried and found guilty, are handled with kid gloves, usually receiving inappropriately weak sentences.

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Ben in Oakland Oakland July 8 Times Pick
They really threw the book at him the first time, didn't they? Are you in jail, and able to leave six days a week. It's almost as if they didn't see it as a serious offense, except for the year in jail and being able to leave six days a week. I wonder if the girls he molested back then are able to work six days a week.
Elin Minkoff Florida July 8 Times Pick
He was allowed to leave the Palm Beach County jail 6 days a week to work????? What kind of sentence is that????? He is obviously not just a predator but a very bold and unconcerned one, to have kept all this evidence showing apparently under-age girls in his Manhattan home. When you have that much money, and you have gotten away with such filth and corruption your entire life, you think that you will always be able to buy your way out of trouble. And most of these kinds of people do. I do hope that this time he pays dearly for what he has done. It is hard to imagine what kind of a mind preys on children like this.

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Heidi Upstate, NY July 8 Times Pick
Well done to the current law enforcement officers, investigators and prosecutors who were willing to go after this rich connected man, who should spend years in prison for such terrible crimes against children. Keep the coverage in the news, so his victims this time see justice served.
Denise Brooklyn, NY July 8 Times Pick
Re: the deal that Acosta cut. According to a February 2017 NYT article, "...As part of the agreement, Mr. Acosta's office agreed not to bring federal charges against Mr. Epstein or any of his potential co-conspirators, court papers show..." Who comes to an agreement with a defendant promising not to charge other "potential" co-conspirators? Who else was Acosta protecting??? This stunk to high heaven then and stinks now.
MS Cambridge July 8 Times Pick
As a sex trafficking survivor and advocate for others caught up in the traps set for us (sex trafficking is sexual activity instigated through fraud, force, and/or coercion) most of us would point to the privileged and fraudulent deal Epstein got as a reason to logically have zero trust in the Lord and social process. This action taken by New York Federal Prosecutors against Epstein challenges our logical distrust. I want to believe in this new day. The trick Epstein and his lawyers used was to twist the narrative - fraudulently procured women engaged in an act of prostitution - viola - the act of prostitution (even through fraud my friends) has socially conferd the identity of prostitute.... And could these young corrupt prostitutes be seen as lilly white witnesses for the prosecution? This twisted reframing of identity for the exploitation of Epstein legal team was yet another crime. Then, third hit was not informing victims - how was this justice. I want to believe.
Sammy Florida July 8 Times Pick
This case is local to me, live in Palm Beach, and one I've followed from day 1. The case and the treatment of Epstein never made sense. Obviously the Feds were in charge of the deal that was brokered, but local officials played a part as well. Former Palm Beach State Attorney Krischer signed off on this deal. PBSO sheriff Bradshaw signed off on the sweetheart jail deal. Both of these offices need to be investigated as well.

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Paul Kramer Poconos July 8 Times Pick
As an attorney, it is misleading to the public to suggest that one can be prosecuted twice for the same crime. First, there is the issue of the scope of the Florida disposition. Rest assured Epstein's attorneys will focus on cramming all the "new" evidence into the Florida package. Second, Berman will have to prove the "new" evidence post-dates the Florida matters. Third -probably most critical- Berman must convince the court that probable cause to look into Epstein's alleged behavior arose from something OTHER than the mere fact of the Florida matter.
Alicia Walker Culver City July 8 Times Pick
I grew up in NYC in the 60's. My sister brother and myself all went to the school Birch Wathen. I have nothing but the fondest memories of my early school years. It sickens and saddens me that a place where so many children received an amazing education devolved to a place where hundreds or thousands of young girls were victimized and sexually abused. 9 east 71st St use to be a place of learning and love. I hope the building in its next incarnation will returns to an institution that will teach and nurture children.
Dennis W So. California July 8 Times Pick
So the Justice Department gets a 'do-over' after bungling their first try over a decade ago. A slap on the wrist was administered to this predator who has continued to prey on young women. Let's see if money, power and connections once again win the day and put him back on the street. One would think justice will certainly prevail, but look at all the people who are not even prosecuted due to influence and wealth.
Ron Carroll July 8 Times Pick
My only concern with the MeToo movement is our loss of the presumption of innocence. It's fundamental to our judicial system. But if he IS found guilty -- AFTER due process -- then he should be punished to the full extent of the law. These sorts of crimes are far too common and no one should be given a plea bargain, no matter how far up it reaches.
CrackerJack NYC July 8 Times Pick
Shine a light into the darkest corners. Anyone - and I mean ANYONE - right, left or center who was involved needs to be brought to justice.
Ellen Williamburg July 8 Times Pick
Epstein and his wealthy powerful covert treated girls as disposable playthings to be passed around and used up, with no concern for their autonomy or humanity. Even when caught, he had enough connections that he served virtually no time, and his case was sealed. And the guy that brokered the deal, Acosta, was rewarded mightily for that. Is there any wonder we have such and abysmal record of abuse of females and femicide? Is it any wonder that rape kits go untested? That our full health care s up for debate and decided by panels made up of men alone, with no female input? These abusers protect each other and continue to keep females under their thumbs because they can and because they themselves benefit from female oppression.
MSC Virginia July 8 Times Pick
I was pretty impressed by both the NYC prosecutor and the FBI during this morning's press conference. They seemed firmly in the corner of the young women who were sexually abused by doing a good job explaining why this was criminal abuse by Epstein, not choice on the part of the victims. The press conference participants also made a point of showing a display with Epstein's photo and an FBI contact number for other victims to call. The FBI went so far as to explain what buttons to push when victims called in. I would like to see wide dissemination of Epstein's photo and the FBI number in the press so that victims know where to call to lodge their complaints

[Jul 17, 2019] Note on the level of corruption of the USA justice system in the initial Epstein case

Clinton was involved is not he? So was it Clinton who advised Mueller to list Epstein as an intelligence asset.
Notable quotes:
"... As a sex trafficking survivor and advocate for others caught up in the traps set for us (sex trafficking is sexual activity instigated through fraud, force, and/or coercion) most of us would point to the privileged and fraudulent deal Epstein got as a reason to logically have zero trust in the Lord and social process. ..."
"... he trick Epstein and his lawyers used was to twist the narrative - fraudulently procured women engaged in an act of prostitution - viola - the act of prostitution (even through fraud my friends) has socially conferd the identity of prostitute.... ..."
"... This twisted reframing of identity for the exploitation of Epstein legal team was yet another crime. Then, third hit was not informing victims - how was this justice. I want to believe. ..."
"... So much truly disgusting, criminal, evil behavior. Acosta catered to a pedophile while he threw the child victims under the bus. He should be behind bars as an accomplice. A president whose "modeling" agency served as a model for Epstein's "modeling" agency. ..."
Jul 17, 2019 | www.nytimes.com

Denise Brooklyn, NY July 8 Times Pick

Re: the deal that Acosta cut. According to a February 2017 NYT article, "...As part of the agreement, Mr. Acosta's office agreed not to bring federal charges against Mr. Epstein or any of his potential co-conspirators, court papers show..." Who comes to an agreement with a defendant promising not to charge other "potential" co-conspirators? Who else was Acosta protecting??? This stunk to high heaven then and stinks now.

Sammy
Florida July 8 Times Pick
This case is local to me, live in Palm Beach, and one I've followed from day 1. The case and the treatment of Epstein never made sense. Obviously the Feds were in charge of the deal that was brokered, but local officials played a part as well. Former Palm Beach State Attorney Krischer signed off on this deal. PBSO sheriff Bradshaw signed off on the sweetheart jail deal. Both of these offices need to be investigated as well.

Ellen
Williamburg July 8 Times Pick
Epstein and his wealthy powerful covert treated girls as disposable playthings to be passed around and used up, with no concern for their autonomy or humanity. Even when caught, he had enough connections that he served virtually no time, and his case was sealed. And the guy that brokered the deal, Acosta, was rewarded mightily for that. Is there any wonder we have such and abysmal record of abuse of females and femicide? Is it any wonder that rape kits go untested? That our full health care s up for debate and decided by panels made up of men alone, with no female input? These abusers protect each other and continue to keep females under their thumbs because they can and because they themselves benefit from female oppression.

MSC
Virginia July 8 Times Pick
I was pretty impressed by both the NYC prosecutor and the FBI during this morning's press conference. They seemed firmly in the corner of the young women who were sexually abused by doing a good job explaining why this was criminal abuse by Epstein, not choice on the part of the victims. The press conference participants also made a point of showing a display with Epstein's photo and an FBI contact number for other victims to call. The FBI went so far as to explain what buttons to push when victims called in. I would like to see wide dissemination of Epstein's photo and the FBI number in the press so that victims know where to call to lodge their complaints

Donna Nieckula
Minnesota July 8 Times Pick
@Richard This is not a Democratic or Republican issue... in spite of many political comments to this article. This is about wealthy, well-connected men and boys who are sexual predators with perverse predilections for girls and young women. This is about wealthy and well-connected predators who, when caught, may never face trial... and who, if tried and found guilty, are handled with kid gloves, usually receiving inappropriately weak sentences. 20 Replies
Elin Minkoff Florida July 8 Times Pick
He was allowed to leave the Palm Beach County jail 6 days a week to work????? What kind of sentence is that????? He is obviously not just a predator but a very bold and unconcerned one, to have kept all this evidence showing apparently under-age girls in his Manhattan home. When you have that much money, and you have gotten away with such filth and corruption your entire life, you think that you will always be able to buy your way out of trouble. And most of these kinds of people do. I do hope that this time he pays dearly for what he has done. It is hard to imagine what kind of a mind preys on children like this. 16 Replies

steve
CT July 8
"Under the agreement, Mr. Epstein pleaded guilty to state prostitution charges and spent about a year in a Palm Beach jail. He was permitted to leave the facility six days a week for 12 hours a day to work." "The agreement was negotiated in part by Alexander Acosta, a former federal prosecutor who is now President Trump's secretary of labor." As Labor Secretary, Acosta is responsible for monitoring human trafficking. Trump placed the fox Acosta in charge of the henhouse. Trump needs to be held accountable, for his links to Epstein and Acosta, and we need to know what kind to backroom deals were made. Unfortunately we have a two tiered justice system, one for the super wealthy and one for the rest.

MS
Cambridge July 8 Times Pick
As a sex trafficking survivor and advocate for others caught up in the traps set for us (sex trafficking is sexual activity instigated through fraud, force, and/or coercion) most of us would point to the privileged and fraudulent deal Epstein got as a reason to logically have zero trust in the Lord and social process.

This action taken by New York Federal Prosecutors against Epstein challenges our logical distrust. I want to believe in this new day. T he trick Epstein and his lawyers used was to twist the narrative - fraudulently procured women engaged in an act of prostitution - viola - the act of prostitution (even through fraud my friends) has socially conferd the identity of prostitute....

And could these young corrupt prostitutes be seen as lilly white witnesses for the prosecution? This twisted reframing of identity for the exploitation of Epstein legal team was yet another crime. Then, third hit was not informing victims - how was this justice. I want to believe.

Dennis W So. California July 8 Times Pick
So the Justice Department gets a 'do-over' after bungling their first try over a decade ago. A slap on the wrist was administered to this predator who has continued to prey on young women. Let's see if money, power and connections once again win the day and put him back on the street. One would think justice will certainly prevail, but look at all the people who are not even prosecuted due to influence and wealth. 8 Replies
Avatar New York July 8
So much truly disgusting, criminal, evil behavior. Acosta catered to a pedophile while he threw the child victims under the bus. He should be behind bars as an accomplice. A president whose "modeling" agency served as a model for Epstein's "modeling" agency. A president who praised Epstein and winked at his penchant for girls "on the young side." Lawyers, including Alan Dershowitz, who ran interference for Epstein so that he was free to molest so many other children. Dershowitz stands accused, in civil suits, of being a party to the horrors. He claims he's innocent. Whether or not he committed a felony, he committed a crime against morality by helping to keep Epstein on the prowl for years. As yet unnamed big shots who wallowed in the swamp with Epstein and also belong behind bars. Anyone and everyone associated with Epstein in his felonies needs to be named and exposed to the light of day, whoever they are. They ALL deserve punishment and universal condemnation.


Charlotte Amalie
Oklahoma July 8

Again, news that makes you wonder how deep this boys club goes. In his Playboy interview in 1987, Gore Vidal said that the genius of our ruling class is that "they're so brilliant that no one knows they even exist." He went on to defend himself from accusations that he's a conspiracy theorist. "'You think they get together at the Bohemian Grove and run the United States.' Well, they do get together at the Bohemian Grove and do a lot of picking of Secretaries of State, anyway. But they don't have to conspire. They all think alike." Don't know what the Bohemian Grove is? Look it up.
RP Potomac, MD July 8
I told my 14 yr old daughter what this monster has been accused of and she looked like she was going to vomit. Dirty old men have been around for centuries, time to expose them and protect our daughters!!!

lionelqdeveraux
new York City July 8
@MS "In a particularly unusual provision of that agreement, Acosta agreed that prosecutors would “not institute any criminal charges against any potential co-conspirators of Epstein” and would “suspend” the grand jury investigation. That provision suggests that Epstein was seeking to protect others beyond himself." This stinks! Acosta should be disbarred and indicted as an accomplice. Justice was not served here!

Paul Kramer
Poconos July 8 Times Pick
As an attorney, it is misleading to the public to suggest that one can be prosecuted twice for the same crime. First, there is the issue of the scope of the Florida disposition. Rest assured Epstein's attorneys will focus on cramming all the "new" evidence into the Florida package. Second, Berman will have to prove the "new" evidence post-dates the Florida matters. Third -probably most critical- Berman must convince the court that probable cause to look into Epstein's alleged behavior arose from something OTHER than the mere fact of the Florida matter.

faivel1
NY July 8
Yes, great injustices occur in this country on a daily basis, now we'll have to watch and see how many scums will be revealed... Full blown banana republic, where sexual predators flying all over the world on their private jets, living in a most exclusive mansions in NYC, sailing on their luxury yachts and avoiding justice for decades with non prosecution deal constructed in hush-hush dark rooms of shadow justice. I wonder how Barr's DOJ will twist itself in pretzels to include the question of citizenship on 2020 census. Nothing will shock me anymore.
Deb CT July 9 Times Pick
Secretary Acosta, now calling Epstein's crimes 'horrific", but let Epstein plead to a charge of prostitution, carrying a much lesser sentence. Epstein was allowed to leave jail 6 days a week for 12 hours a day. No child of the age of 14 can be a prostitute, no matter if money was exchanged for sex. These girls were raped and abused. Secretary Acosta needs to step down immediately. No one can give an incredibly generous plea deal to a remorseless child molester and still expect to hold the public’s trust. He failed Jeffrey Epstein’s victims. He failed the people of South Florida. He cannot continue to serve. Why is every single republican such a hypocrite?

TM
Boston, MA July 9 Times Pick
Thank goodness for brave reporters. But we have all protected the Epsteins of the world for too long. We all protect the Epsteins of the world when we show that we value riches and status over all else. Our churches, our legal system, our colleges, our very laws, do more to protect the rich than the vulnerable. Someone without status in our country can suffer more for public urination than Epstein has so far for his horrific crimes. The way we, as a culture, value status above all else, paves the way for the Epsteins of the world to thrive. We can clutch our pearls all we want to, but when we clamor for admission to an elite school, buy houses and cars we can't afford, buy knockoff designer goods we know were made by foreign children, because we are desperate to show that we have status, we create a culture where status is the only protection; we show that we value perceived status over integrity, financial solvency, decency, justice, peace, even over the safety of our children. The fact that status is our number one value lay the path for Trump to be elected. The fake billionaire promised to restore status to those who felt that the little they had had been robbed from them by minorities, women, gays. And while many of us are horrified with the results, everything we do that shows that we, too, value perceived status over anything else, makes us part of this problem. If we did not adore the rich and powerful, they would not have so much power.

Red Sox, ‘04, ‘07, ‘13, ‘18
Boston July 8
I’m a lifelong cynic. Poor folks, minority folks and women never get full justice. Harvey Weinstein paid up but was there justice? Was there full restitution? I’m saying here that the defendant—white, male, wealthy and a friend of the president—walks. Because money talks. I dare justice to prove me wrong. Just once. These girls had mothers. These girls had a future. Once upon a time.
Peggy Jenkins Moscow, Idaho July 8
@Paul Kramer you are citing textbook law but this is not a textbook case. A federal judge ruled the 2008 deal was illegal. The NY prosecutors are NOT saying they are limited to post-2008; stuff they are saying that deal only binds the Southern District of Florida. That could easily be a reference to the illegality finding.

The Prosecutors in Florida may say they don't see a reason to recharge after that finding of illegality, but since the agreement has no force or effect the NY feds could conclude otherwise. Especially because there was always criminal conduct with SDNY and they should not be bound by an illegal deal entered into by prosecutors elsewhere.


MarkyT
Toronto July 9 Times Pick
The Epstein saga reminds me of that long-running joke (and movie) The Aristocrats. A joke so filthy and disgusting that it's been told, retold and embellished for decades. What's that saying about many a truth told in jest? Epstein shows there's moral debauchery that comes with obscene wealth. The 1 per cent have lost their ethical bearings. Good journalism has shined some antiseptic light on this perversion of justice. Well done.

Multimodalmama
The hub July 8
@Paul Kramer In case you didn't read the article, these are entirely New York charges. No Florida here. He also had porn of young girls and that is also something very bad for a registered sex offender. You seriously underestimate the league that these prosecutors have been playing in.

Baddy Khan
San Francisco July 8
News reports say that in the Florida case co-conspirators were kept secret and not charged. Hopefully this list becomes public soon. Could there be an orange colored dude currently in Washington on that list?

Dan
Redding, CT July 8
Send me the next breaking news alert notification when he is actually scheduled to go on trial. Because until then, nothing will have changed.

NYC Mama
Ny, Ny July 8
My 13-year-old just read the article in The York Times. Here are her questions: “Mommy, is it true our president was accused of raping a teenager?” “Mommy, why would a lawyer allow Jeff Epstein who hurt teen girls to go to work everyday instead of being in jail?” “Mommy, what’s masturbation and sex toys?” “Mommy, what happens to the photos of naked girls? Do they know he has them? Do their parents and friends know? You said once a photo is on-line, it can be on other people’s computers forever. What’s going to happen to them?” “Mommy, why would this man’s girlfriend help him find girls to give him naked massages?” Innocent Children! This man corrupted the innocence of children—those he directly abused—and every child exposed to his disgusting perversions via the news. I want justice now, as does every single adult who cares about our youth!
Joe From Boston Massachusetts July 8
@Elin Minkoff said "It is hard to imagine what kind of a mind preys on children like this." A very sick mind, one that is self-important, egotistical, unconcerned with the interests or rights of anyone else, and has no regard for the law or for societal norms. Doesn't that sound just like a man who has been a public servant since January 20, 2017?
Mary Maine July 9
The real hero here is Julie Brown of the Miami Herald. The evidence was there all the time and law enforcement knew about it. By publishing the long piece in the Herald, she made it impossible to ignore any longer. 1 Reply
Loner NC July 8
@Ellen Epstein's lawyers included Ken Starr, whose role in all this should be investigated as well.
ML Boston July 8
"Seeking to detain" -- does that mean that they are considering the possibility that this man should be let out on bail AGAIN. Poor and minority Americans languish in the mass incarceration-industrial-complex for minor infractions for years, or for not having the ability to pay fines or bail, but this serial pedophile might go free again because he has money? There should be no chance that this creep receives a "get out of jail free" card again, unless we want to highlight to the world -- over and over -- how thoroughly corrupt and morally bankrupt our system of justice is in America.
J. Cornelio Washington, Conn. July 8
Epstein didn't get his sweetheart deal in 2008 because he is one of those "insulated, powerful men [who] can escape accountability." He got it because he has information, damning information, about a slew of other powerful men, who then intervened to protect him. The US attorney for the SDNY has unwittingly opened a can of doo-doo which will either be quickly closed again with some clever lawyering and strained legalistic parsing or, if not, will reveal a dark underbelly at the highest ranks of society that I think even those calling for Epstein's scalp might wish had never been exposed.
Covfefe Long Beach, NY July 8
This Epstein is a serial killer of children’s souls. No way should he be let out.
Marjorie Charlottesville, VA July 8
That he would still be in possession of child pornography illustrates just how insulated and safe he felt in his position. And why wouldn't he? Protected on all sides by powerful political and financial connections. As E.J. Dionne said in his column today, we are in the Age of Impunity. Well, maybe no more for this arrogant perverted abuser. Next up, Acosta's day of reckoning. Noted in a different publication is his accomplice for over a decade, a woman, Ghislaine Maxwell, who facilitated many of the girls' victimization. Not sure why she is not mentioned in this article.
marklee nyc July 8
@Dennis W This case was not "bungled." The prosecutor made a deal behind closed doors, the terms of which we are not privy to. It is not surprise to find this slimeball Acosta working in te Trump administration. There was a quid pro quo we do not yet know about, and there were co-conspirators not charged, also powerful, wealthy individuals. There is an entire iceberg beneath this dirty tip.

[Jul 16, 2019] Did Jeffrey Epstein "Belong to Intelligence by THOMAS KNAPP

Notable quotes:
"... More money buys more formidable lawyers (in Epstein's case, Alan Dershowitz and Ken Starr). More money usually means friends with more money, and with the influence that goes with having more money. It's just a fact of life that more money sometimes means getting away with -- or at least getting off easier for -- things would put you or me in jail for a long, long time ..."
"... "I was told Epstein 'belonged to intelligence' and to leave it alone." ..."
"... Suppose you were a wealthy and influential man with wealthy and influential friends -- not just celebrities, but business moguls and politicians -- from around the globe. Suppose you held wild sex parties on your private island and invited those wealthy and influential friends, even ferrying some of them to the island on your personal Boeing 727 airliner. ..."
"... Suppose those wild sex parties included the presence, voluntary or coerced, of young (perhaps illegally so) women. ..."
"... That's pretty good extortion material, isn't it? Now suppose a government intelligence agency offered to protect you from prosecution for your escapades -- perhaps by leaning on a federal prosecutor to make the matter go away with minimal punishment -- in return for that extortion material? ..."
"... Since World War Two, the United States has built itself into a "national security state" which recognizes no ethical or legal constraints. It's doesn't exist to protect the American public. It exists to protect itself. And, too often, it protects the predators among us. ..."
Jul 12, 2019 | www.counterpunch.org

In 2008, billionaire asset manager Jeffrey Epstein's lawyers negotiated a very favorable plea bargain in Florida, under which he served a mere 13 months in jail -- in his own private wing, with 12 hours of daily "work release" -- on a single charge of soliciting prostitution from a minor (the FBI had identified 40 alleged victims of sexual predation on his part).

Epstein's in jail again, this time in New York, on charges of sex trafficking and conspiracy to traffic minors for sex. Again, prosecutors allege at least 40 victims.

A prospective 41st casualty of the case, perhaps not an undeserving one, is Alexander Acosta. As US Attorney for the Southern District of Florida, Acosta negotiated that sweetheart 2008 plea agreement. Now he faces calls for his resignation as US Secretary of Labor.

How did the plea agreement come about? For an easy explanation, look to a (supposed) exchange between F. Scott Fitzgerald and Ernest Hemingway in the 1920s:

Fitzgerald: The rich are different from you and me.

Hemingway: Yes, they have more money.

More money buys more formidable lawyers (in Epstein's case, Alan Dershowitz and Ken Starr). More money usually means friends with more money, and with the influence that goes with having more money. It's just a fact of life that more money sometimes means getting away with -- or at least getting off easier for -- things would put you or me in jail for a long, long time.

But another possibility rears its ugly head. In an article for The Daily Beast, investigative journalist Vicky Ward quotes a former senior White House official, in turn quoting Acosta's response to questions about Epstein during his interview with President Donald Trump's transition team:

"I was told Epstein 'belonged to intelligence' and to leave it alone."

Yes, we're getting that quote at third hand. Unfortunately, yes, it sounds plausible.

Suppose you were a wealthy and influential man with wealthy and influential friends -- not just celebrities, but business moguls and politicians -- from around the globe. Suppose you held wild sex parties on your private island and invited those wealthy and influential friends, even ferrying some of them to the island on your personal Boeing 727 airliner.

Suppose those wild sex parties included the presence, voluntary or coerced, of young (perhaps illegally so) women.

That's pretty good extortion material, isn't it? Now suppose a government intelligence agency offered to protect you from prosecution for your escapades -- perhaps by leaning on a federal prosecutor to make the matter go away with minimal punishment -- in return for that extortion material?

Is that how things happened? Your guess is as good as mine. But if so, it would be far from the first time that innocent men, women and children have been sacrificed to the false idol of "national security."

Since World War Two, the United States has built itself into a "national security state" which recognizes no ethical or legal constraints. It's doesn't exist to protect the American public. It exists to protect itself. And, too often, it protects the predators among us.

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Thomas L. Knapp is director and senior news analyst at the William Lloyd Garrison Center for Libertarian Advocacy Journalism ( thegarrisoncenter.org ). He lives and works in north central Florida.

[Jul 15, 2019] Epstein Procurer Ghislaine Maxwell s 1986 Frontpage Political Sex Scandal - caucus99percent

Notable quotes:
"... For her own part, Maxwell, who has been largely overlooked, was granted immunity from prosecution as part of Epstein's prosecution deal. It turns out that Ghaislaine Maxwell has a spectacular past in the UK that has gone altogether ignored by the U.S authorities and systematically obfuscated by the U.S. media, which has repeatedly spiked stories about the pair. ..."
"... I spent many months on his trail in 2002 for Vanity Fair and discovered not only that he was not who he claimed to be professionally, but also that he had allegedly assaulted two young sisters, one of whom had been underage at the time. Very bravely, they were prepared to go on the record. They were afraid he'd use all his influence to discredit them -- and their fear turned out to be legitimate. ..."
"... Not until after the rearrest of Epstein in July 2019 have details about Maxwell and the Farmer sisters started to reemerge. In reality, Ghislaine Maxwell has a history of entanglement with political sex scandals that goes back to when she was 23 ..."
"... An extraordinary 1986 front-page British tabloid story in a British tabloid revealed that Ghislaine had a relationship with a Conservative Member of Parliament reportedly involving compromising photos taken of him with naked boys whom the MP had beaten with a cane ..."
"... It's still a pretty damned strange story though ... the claim is that some unknown person threatened to "expose" an inappropriate liaison between GM and a young Marquis, Lord Granby (son of a Duke, I guess), unless Maxwell's paper laid off a series of stories about the Tory MP's sex life ..."
"... Even if she was 23 at the time, for Robert Maxwell to use his daughter in this way was a form of abuse. He was capable of worse, and did worse ..."
"... bottom line: Ghislaine Maxwell has a 30 year history of involvement in political sex scandals and compromise operations that the corporate media has missed. ..."
Jul 15, 2019 | caucus99percent.com

leveymg on Sun, 07/14/2019 - 1:29pm

Despite her 30 year career in political kompromat operations, the FBI and major media have ignored Ghislaine Maxwell. Here's where she got her start, as detailed in 1986 on Page One of one of her father's tabloids. Complete with canes and school boys:

For decades, the US and UK governments knew about Epstein and Maxwell's sexual kompromat operations. Maxwell and her famous father, it turns out, have made them a family business. But, the FBI and Scotland Yard did nothing to stop them. Why? For details - SEE FULL UPDATED REPORT: https://caucus99percent.com/content/epstein-turned-informant-muellers-fb...

As was previously reported:

In 1996,

the FBI failed to act on an accusation that they had together sexually abused a 15 year old girl and her older sister in a bedroom inside Epstein's Manhattan townhouse. Documents in a recent law suit filed by an alleged victim, Maria Farmer, show that the FBI had been aware of Epstein and Maxwell's child abuse activities in New York for at least a dozen years before Epstein was finally prosecuted in 2008 under much-reduced Florida state offenses. https://www.yourtango.com/2019323698/who-maria-farmer-latest-woman-accus...

For her own part, Maxwell, who has been largely overlooked, was granted immunity from prosecution as part of Epstein's prosecution deal. It turns out that Ghaislaine Maxwell has a spectacular past in the UK that has gone altogether ignored by the U.S authorities and systematically obfuscated by the U.S. media, which has repeatedly spiked stories about the pair.

Here is some additional background and new details.


For years the rape of the Farmer sisters and the larger child sex scandal was publicly ignored by the authorities and the media. A story intended to expose it in Vanity Fair was spiked by the editor. According to reporter Vicky Ward: https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epsteins-sick-story-played-out-for...

I spent many months on his trail in 2002 for Vanity Fair and discovered not only that he was not who he claimed to be professionally, but also that he had allegedly assaulted two young sisters, one of whom had been underage at the time. Very bravely, they were prepared to go on the record. They were afraid he'd use all his influence to discredit them -- and their fear turned out to be legitimate.

As the article was being readied for publication, Epstein made a visit to the office of Vanity Fair's then-editor, Graydon Carter, and suddenly the women and their allegations were removed from the article. "He's sensitive about the young women," Carter told me at the time.

Not until after the rearrest of Epstein in July 2019 have details about Maxwell and the Farmer sisters started to reemerge. In reality, Ghislaine Maxwell has a history of entanglement with political sex scandals that goes back to when she was 23.

An extraordinary 1986 front-page British tabloid story in a British tabloid revealed that Ghislaine had a relationship with a Conservative Member of Parliament reportedly involving compromising photos taken of him with naked boys whom the MP had beaten with a cane. English public school kinky. Extraordinarily, The People tabloid was controlled by the Mirror press syndicate, owned by Ghislaine's father, Robert Maxwell, whose picture appears on the masthead above his daughter's Page One photo.

Robert Maxwell was himself a Member of Parliament for the opposing Labour Party . . .

Talk about spinning a story and flipping the narrative . . . extraordinary. Very Old School.

See the complete story: https://caucus99percent.com/content/epstein-turned-informant-muellers-fb...

UntimelyRippd on Sun, 07/14/2019 - 4:29pm
SD, I think you've misread that article ...

There's no implication of any connection between GM and the kinky Tory MP.

It's still a pretty damned strange story though ... the claim is that some unknown person threatened to "expose" an inappropriate liaison between GM and a young Marquis, Lord Granby (son of a Duke, I guess), unless Maxwell's paper laid off a series of stories about the Tory MP's sex life.

The strange part of the business is that ... I'm not sure what would be inappropriate about any particular relationship between GM and Lord Granby. Was he married? If not, then ... what? I mean, yeah, it was 1986, but that's not the same as 1956, and they were both in their early 20s. Really weird. And presumably there never was any follow-through on the threat so ... huh!?!?

leveymg on Sun, 07/14/2019 - 9:40pm
The story was a way of making the accusations public

@UntimelyRippd @UntimelyRippd under the guise of defense of Ghislaine Maxwell's character. I don't buy that a telephone call was received at the editorial office of The People from a mysterious blackmailer, at all. Smells like a smear job against an opposition politician that Maxwell's daughter, GM had gotten to know, intimately, as insinuated.

The tabloid's "investigation" was an exceptionally nasty smear job, but that's not terribly unusual for British tabloids and politics. We're just beginning to catch up over here.

The references to a man claiming to be a homosexual partner giving the tabloid compromising photos of "naked boys" four months earlier, and to the Conservative MP caning them, is at least intriguing and potentially significant (particularly in light of Ghisaile's later activities), but, as far as I know were never substantiated. Would not be surprised, nonetheless, if the Marquis was not returned to Parliament.

The ongoing scandal this fed into was enough, apparently, to disaffect the poor MP's constituents and backers. Read the last paragraph. "IN THE NAME OF GOD, GO!"

Even if she was 23 at the time, for Robert Maxwell to use his daughter in this way was a form of abuse. He was capable of worse, and did worse.

UntimelyRippd on Sun, 07/14/2019 - 5:34pm
I don't think the Marquis was in Parliament to begin with.

@leveymg

The Marquis in question is young Lord Ganby, who is not Harvey Proctor, the Tory MP accused of caning boys.

I agree with you on one point: I don't think anybody called The People and threatened them with exposing "compromising" photos of GM and Lord Ganby. I think the editor of The People made the whole damned thing up, probably on RM's instructions, in order to increase the hype around their ongoing expose of the Harvey Proctor sex scandal (with caning etc.). Which is probably why the scandalous relationship supposedly being used as a threat isn't actually very scandalous at all -- they wouldn't want to create a really scandalous fictitious relationship, because juicy rumours are hard to put down once you've created them.

In other words, nothing in any of this connects Ghislaine Maxwell to the alleged caning of boys by Harvey Proctor.

leveymg on Sun, 07/14/2019 - 9:34pm
Thanks for looking that up. Bigger picture

@UntimelyRippd and bottom line: Ghislaine Maxwell has a 30 year history of involvement in political sex scandals and compromise operations that the corporate media has missed.

There's a reason for that.

gulfgal98 on Sun, 07/14/2019 - 5:01pm
This is a huge rabbit hole

down which one could easily get lost. Ghislaine Maxwell's father ( Robert Maxwell ) was a publisher who had strong ties to Israel and was buried there after his mysterious drowning death. There have been rumors that Maxwell worked for the Mossad.

Maxwell, 57, comes from money. Her father was publisher Robert Maxwell - who himself faced accusations of being a Mossad double (and possibly triple) agent and a "bad character" who was "almost certainly financed by Russia," according to the British Foreign Office. Robert Maxwell died in 1991 when he fell from his yacht, the Lady Ghislaine - however the circumstances surrounding his demise have been rife with speculation (including that it was a Mossad assassination - a theory which attorney and longtime Epstein associate Alan Dershowitz slammed in a 2003 op-ed).

Ghislaine Maxwell is a good friend of the Clintons too and was pictured having attended Chelsea Clinton's wedding . Thus far, Ghislaine Maxwell has been protected and if she continues to be protected, then we will know that she is definitely a government asset, (CIA or Mossad?).

No one really knows what is the real story of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, but this is more than just what it appears to be. There are many questions about how Jeffrey Epstein acquired his vast fortune and how he was able to become friendly with many high level politicians and influential people, including the British royal family.

One more item: the most amusing thing about Epstein is that not a single source/person can say how he made his money. That's a topic for a next essay, but there's this: 20 years after -ostensibly-, leaving Bear Stearns Epstein turns up as a director for one of their SIV's.The vehicle was called Liquid Funding Ltd, and Epstein is listed as a director and chairman. The entire vehicle went stone dead, as did Bear. But Jeffrey did not.

Leveymg, thank you for having the nerve to broach this subject because Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell and their sex peddling business may have far greater ramifications than any of us can imagine, if the truth is ever allowed to come out. I wrote most of my comment before reading your linked essay thoroughly and I apologize for duplicating some of the content. Blackmail is a great form of control.

We should keep a watchful eye on this story because this may be the tip of a very large and dirty iceberg that has infected our government for a long time. Finally, Zero Hedge has an interesting editorial article up today by "Tyler Durden" that asks a very puzzling question. Why did Epstein fly back to the United States when he knew that the courts were unsealing 2,000 pages of his previous case?

Alligator Ed on Sun, 07/14/2019 - 6:22pm
Zounds! What a spirited ZeroHedge article

@gulfgal98 Why, indeed did Epstein fly back into the U.S.? He should have suspected that Barr would arrest him on orders from the Chief. Or, is JE being presented as a sacrificial lamb, being led before the rest of the herd, to succumb as a bloody example of who calls the shots (pardon the horrible mixed metaphors, but, hey. These do occur).

I am reminded of an old FarSide cartoon in which two bears are walking on their hind legs and one of the bears has a red and white target painted on his back. That bear-with-target would be JE, if I'm not mistaken. Wexner and associates will not take lightly to the pressure of the klieg lights being constantly upon them.

I wish I wrote essays as good as your comment.

dfarrah on Sun, 07/14/2019 - 8:25pm
Maybe Epstein

@gulfgal98 would rather face justice in the US rather than elsewhere?

snoopydawg on Sun, 07/14/2019 - 8:15pm
After Epstein was released from his 13 month inconvenient

He went right back to being accepted in the high society. Not long after he got out he had dinner with Katie Couric and George Stephanopoulos and started right back up where he left off. You'd think that his friends would want to put some distance between them and his perversions.

But when people talked about his registering as a sex offender he said this:

"I'm not a sexual predator, I'm an 'offender,' Epstein told The New York Post in 2011. "It's the difference between a murderer and a person who steals a bagel."

Uh no.. Jeff you are a sexual predator and you should be still sitting in a regular prison cell for a few more years or decades if the original case had gone to the original conclusion.

Fresh out of jail, Jeffrey Epstein was welcomed by the rich, powerful

In 2010, the year after he got out of a Florida prison, Katie Couric and George Stephanopoulos dined at his Manhattan mansion with a British royal. The next year, Epstein was photographed at a "billionaire's dinner" attended by tech titans like Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk. A page popped up on Harvard University's website lauding his accomplishments, and superlative-filled news releases described his lofty ambitions as he dedicated $10 million to charitable causes.

Powerful female friends served as social guarantors: Peggy Siegal, a gatekeeper for A-list events, included him in movie screenings, and Dr. Eva Andersson-Dubin, a champion of women's health, maintained a friendship that some felt gave him credibility. Epstein put up a website showing Stephen Hawking and other luminaries at a science gathering he had organized.

"If you looked up Jeffrey Epstein online in 2012, you would see what we all saw," Leon Botstein, president of Bard College, said in an interview. He seemed "like an ex-con who had done well on Wall Street," who was close to the Clintons and gave money to academic pursuits, Botstein said. That was why, he noted, Bard accepted an unsolicited $50,000 in 2011 for its high schools, followed later that year and in 2012 by another $75,000 in donations.

Siegal threw the dinner party at Epstein's Upper East Side mansion for Prince Andrew, giving Couric, Stephanopoulos, Chelsea Handler and others a chance to speak to a member of the royal family a few months before the much-anticipated wedding of Prince William and Kate Middleton.

"It was just one of those strange nights," Handler said in an interview. Siegal had not emphasized who was hosting, several guests recalled. "The invitation was positioned as, 'Do you want to have dinner with Prince Andrew?'" Siegal said. Epstein did not speak much. Andersson-Dubin was there, but others said they barely knew who Epstein was or what he had been convicted of.

People close to Epstein had to know what his true history was and yet they all welcomed him back in their fold.

[Jul 15, 2019] Jeffrey Epstein Is Exhibit A for Capitalism's Moral Bankruptcy

Highly recommended!
Jul 15, 2019 | truthout.org

By throwing millions of dollars at the legal system, Epstein successfully enlisted Alex Acosta, a sitting U.S. Attorney who just resigned as Trump's Labor Secretary, to grant the admitted sex offender a non-prosecution and an immunity agreement.

That deal, that a federal judge has since ruled illegal, helped conceal a vast child-sex trafficking operation that targeted vulnerable minors by offering them $300 and then employed a kind of pyramid scheme where victims were recruited to find new victims.

For decades now, as a general assignment reporter, I have had front row seats for a procession of these kinds of defendants. I have seen the likes of Epstein before.

Over my life as a journalist, as the whirlwind of wealth concentration stripped so many threadbare, these guys have prospered on an unprecedented scale. In our era of late-stage vulture-capitalism, it is these most ruthless predators that are elevated before their fall by our corporate media as living deities.

Rogues Rushmore

The elevation of Donald Trump to the Presidency marks the high-water mark for this underworld crew who masterfully play the compliant corporate media that's transfixed by great wealth and confer upon those that hold it all sorts of intellectual prowess so as to cultivate proximity to them.

As we saw in the Federal prosecution and conviction of Michael Cohen for his role in facilitating the payoff of Stormy Daniels, Trump knows everybody has a price.

These great white men are their own law. They see themselves as the smartest guys in the room. They have the cunning to know how to hollow out others so that they can own their souls. With the precision of an acupuncturist, they pinpoint that pressure point that's the nexus of desire, sexual pleasure or ambition.

These must be done with sleight of hand but even if you are caught red-handed, as long as you have high priced representation on retainer, you can outmaneuver prosecutors.

Weaponized Sex

Charles Kushner, the father of Jared Kushner, President Trump's senior advisor, is another case in point.

Kushner, the real estate mogul and major Democratic campaign donor, was appointed by Governor McGreevey to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey in 2002 and was nominated by the Governor to be the chairman of the board of the sprawling bi-state multi-billion-dollar enterprise in 2003.

McGreevey had to withdraw that nomination and Kushner had to resign when allegations surfaced that the developer's massive donations to his campaign might have run afoul of campaign finance and conflict of interest laws.

The year before Kushner's appointment, while on a trip to Israel, McGreevey crossed paths with Golan Cipel, who was in his early 30s. Subsequent press reports boiled down the young Israeli's bio to his being a former member of the Israeli Navy and a published poet.

In 2002, it was Kushner who sponsored Cipel, for a hard to obtain work visa in the U.S. and gave him a $30,000-a-year job in his northern New Jersey office after Cipel had worked on the McGreevey campaign.

In the immediate aftermath of September 11, 2001, Cipel was nominated by McGreevey to a $110,000 job to lead the state's freshly minted Homeland Security office. Cipel's status as an Israeli citizen and his lack of executive-level counter-terrorism experience sent up multiple flares which McGreevey ignored.

The young Governor doubled down, as he blew through his very limited 'honeymoon' political capital trying to make the appointment stick. But the Governor's wild overstatement of Cipel's work experience doomed the pick and Cipel handed in his resignation in March of 2002. Yet, he was kept on at the same salary as a "policy counselor" a position he would resign from a few months later.

In August of 2004 McGreevey resigned from office disclosing that he was "a gay American", explaining he was compelled to make the bombshell disclosure because Cipel, with whom he had an affair, was threatening to sue him unless he was paid $5 million (McGreevey reportedly called the U.S. Attorney Chris Christie to report the alleged extortion).

But as Cipel tells it on his own website he was the victim of sexual harassment. "All those things that I rationalized to myself seemed very logical at the time, but the sad truth is that I was acting out of confusion and fear," Cipel writes. "Like many other victims of sexual harassment, I chose to deny what had happened."

The Art of the Deal

In August of 2004 the elder Kushner, a towering figure in both American and Israeli politics and philanthropy, pled guilty to a long list of corruption charges that could have sent him to jail for many years if he had been your run of the mill federal defendant of color in a drug conspiracy case.

Kushner admitted to hiring a prostitute to seduce his brother-in-law, who was working with federal investigators against him, then videotaping that sexual rendezvous and sending it to his brother-in-law's spouse, who was Kushner's sister.

But Kushner and his lawyers would ultimately outmaneuver U.S. Attorney Chris Christie , whose major vulnerability was his own infinite ambition for power as we saw with Bridgegate. The night before Kushner was supposed to be in court to plead guilty, the U.S. Attorney leaked the still un-inked deal to reporters.

But as the media waited in Newark the next day for the official deal to be confirmed in the federal courtroom, the appointed time came and went. Behind the scenes, Kushner's lawyers and Christie's team were going back and forth over the terms and conditions of the deal.

By the end of the day, Kushner would enter a guilty plea as advertised, but he made no commitment to cooperate with the government or to offer up any potential co-conspirators. According to the Department of Justice's press release, Kushner pleaded guilty to 18 counts of filing false tax returns, one count of retaliating against a cooperating witness and one count of making false statements to the Federal Election Commission.

By the evening news cycle, the morning's news of a plea deal was finally true, and Christie could bask in the glory. "This is a great victory for the people of New Jersey," said the federal prosecutor who would soon run for governor. "No matter how rich and powerful any person may be, they will be held accountable for criminal conduct by this office."

Each of Kushner's 18 tax counts carried a maximum penalty of three years in prison and a fine of $100,000, according to the DOJ; the witness retaliation count carried a maximum penalty of 10 years in prison and a fine of $250,000; and the false statement charge provided for a maximum prison term of five years and a fine of $250,000.

Scroll forward to March of 2005, though, and Kushner was sentenced to just two years -- which, The New York Times reported at the time, was the most he "could have received under a plea agreement reached last September," with Christie.

It was clear that Christie's office had been out-lawyered by the Kushner team. And the Christie-approved leak -- before he had closed the deal -- definitely hadn't helped. Before sentencing, the Department of Justice wrote a letter to the judge observing that, in the final analysis, Kushner showed a "failure to accept responsibility" for a long litany of criminal acts that could have landed him in federal prison for decades."

Without a truly thorough prosecution, the House of Kushner would endure and prosper and Kushner would see his son go on to greater things sitting in the star chamber of ultimate power deciding who the U.S. should bomb or sell weapons to.

Equal Justice Not

Our collective attention span is so short and the non-contextual way the news is reported assures we lose track of the narrative thread so when types like Epstein and Kushner cut their deals we miss it.

Without the candle power of the Miami Herald 's probe of the Epstein plea deal, we remain in the dark about how every day great wealth can insulate the guilty, no matter heinous their crime, from really being held accountable.

Meanwhile, those without means, who are innocent, are chewed up and spit out by a criminal justice system that is neither blind nor fair.

"We have a system of justice in this country that treats you much better if you're rich and guilty than if you're poor and innocent," said civil rights attorney Bryan Stevenson in his TED Talk. "Wealth, not culpability, shapes outcomes. And yet, we seem to be very comfortable. The politics of fear and anger have made us believe that these are problems that are not our problems."

[Jul 15, 2019] Epstein 007, by Gilad Atzmon

Notable quotes:
"... I cannot verify whether Robert Maxwell was a Mossad agent or if association with the Mossad is an hereditary trait, but the possible conjecture that Epstein and Maxwell were running an intelligence operation makes sense of the questions surrounding this gruesome spectacle. ..."
"... This intelligence postulate raises a crucial question. If Epstein was a spy, who did he work for? Was it the Russians? I only ask because every time Tel Aviv comes up as a likely suspect American media tends to blame the Russians . ..."
"... Another possibly is that this affair is a classic MI6 operation and Epstein is actually the paedophile model of 007. ..."
"... it is difficult to believe that the Mossad acting by itself was powerful enough to procure for Epstein his remarkably lenient plea deal. ..."
"... If it was the Mossad, they likely enjoyed significant support from within the American intelligence community. ..."
"... Something is just not quite right about Epstein's 'career'. Hugh Hefner could live the 'Playboy' life into his nineties and never run afoul of the law or public opinion because his 'girls' driver's licenses said 18. ..."
"... As a practical matter, to a 40 or 50 year old man looking for some young flesh being 16 or 18 is a distinction without a difference but it makes a world of difference if your goal is blackmail but this begs another question. ..."
"... If you are Prince Andrew, a billionaire or an ex POTUS do your really need the services of Epstein and Maxwell to get laid- even by a teeny bopper? ..."
"... The biggest item missing from Gilad Atzmon's look at Jeffrey Epstein, is Epstein's historically biggest financial partner, Les Wexner ..."
"... In 1988 Jeffrey Epstein declared net worth of only USA $20 million where did he get the huge fortune after that? ..."
"... Wexner's trust bought the New York mansion Epstein lives in, which was raided the other day, Wexner turning it over to Epstein around 1995 ..."
"... On 30 June during the USA 2016 election, The Daily Beast ran a story about how the Jeffrey Epstein files, could destroy either the Clintons or Donald Trump https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-billionaire-pedophile-who-could-bring-down-donald-trump-and-hillary-clinton ..."
Jul 15, 2019 | www.unz.com

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It is possible that Epstein is just an ordinary paedophile, a slave to his own sick depravity. But this now seems unlikely, it leaves too many questions unresolved: why did Epstein build a sex trafficking network? Why did he seek the company of the world's most influential characters? Why did he schlep all those royals, once and future presidents, Harvard professors and movie stars around the world in his 'Lolita Express'? And then we get to the big question: how did he get away with it all? Back in 2007, registered sex offender Epstein was supposed to spend the rest of his life behind bars. Instead he spent a mere thirteen months in a VIP prison.

The Daily Beast reported yesterday that when Alexander Acosta, the former U.S. attorney in Miami who infamously cut Epstein a non-prosecution plea deal back in 2007 , was being interviewed for the job of US labor secretary by the Trump administration's transition team, Acosta's conduct in the Epstein affair came under scrutiny. In that interview Acosta allegedly said, "I was told Epstein 'belonged to intelligence' and to leave it alone."

The more we look into this registered sex offender's saga, the more it appears to have the characteristics of a gargantuan espionage operation. If so, then Epstein was running a multi-million intelligence apparatus set to accumulate dirt on some of the world's most influential people. The walls of his Caribbean island palace were rigged with cameras, and likely for reasons other than his personal libidinal gratification. Epstein didn't work alone. Press reports allege that Ghislaine Maxwell functioned as Epstein's 'madam.'

Multiple court filings reviewed and reported on by the Miami Herald reveal that lawyers for one of Epstein's alleged victims claim that Maxwell helped traffic girls and women to powerful figures. The same documents report that the alleged victims were lured into the sex ring by offers of modelling, fashion, and educational opportunities.

Ghislaine is the youngest child of the flamboyant Jewish media tycoon Robert Maxwell, who died under mysterious circumstances in November 1991. Shortly before he died, a self-proclaimed former Mossad officer named Ari Ben-Menashe had approached a number of news organisations in Britain and the United States with the allegation that Maxwell was a long-time agent for the Israeli intelligence service.

I cannot verify whether Robert Maxwell was a Mossad agent or if association with the Mossad is an hereditary trait, but the possible conjecture that Epstein and Maxwell were running an intelligence operation makes sense of the questions surrounding this gruesome spectacle.

This intelligence postulate raises a crucial question. If Epstein was a spy, who did he work for? Was it the Russians? I only ask because every time Tel Aviv comes up as a likely suspect American media tends to blame the Russians .

Maybe Epstein was working for the Iranians, all indications are that the Trump's administration is desperate for a pretext for a war with Iran. Another possibly is that this affair is a classic MI6 operation and Epstein is actually the paedophile model of 007.

If the espionage conspiracy theory is correct, then the Mossad and the CIA would be the natural suspects. Yet it is difficult to believe that the Mossad acting by itself was powerful enough to procure for Epstein his remarkably lenient plea deal.

It is almost impossible to imagine that Acosta, acting as the federal prosecutor, would take instructions from Israel. If it was the Mossad, they likely enjoyed significant support from within the American intelligence community. I assume that Alan Dershowitz, Epstein's former attorney, may be able to answer some of these questions. He seems to know the details:


David Martin , says: Website July 12, 2019 at 3:03 pm GMT

Why are we hearing so little these days about Kenneth Starr's role in getting Jeffrey Epstein his sweetheart deal from the Feds? https://www.justice-integrity.org/791-ken-starr-explains-his-help-for-billionaire-pervert-jeffrey-epstein

Could there be a connection to Starr's role in covering up the Vince Foster murder? See "Was Vince Foster's Murder PizzaGate-Related? http://dcdave.com/article5/161213.htm . Maybe Starr is an all-purpose Deep State fixer when it comes to pedophilia.

melpol , says: July 12, 2019 at 3:07 pm GMT

Gangbangers are known to be extremely stimulated by teens on the young side. Epstein sent invitations to socially acclaimed gangbangers letting them know that dozens of young teens were going to be at his parties. Epstein's was a voyeur, his reward was to enjoy watching the high and mighty descend into depravity. He masturbated while watching the orgy.

Rabbitnexus , says: July 13, 2019 at 8:36 am GMT

Epstein has been pegged for more than a decade in my books as a MOSSAD agent running a global, THE global pedo ring used to blackmail and bribe powerful, connected people for his masters. It was NO secret.

I know that Gilad knows the VT crew, they reported on this many years ago I think. besides which you'd have to be a retard not to have put 2 and 2 together years ago from what was public knowledge.

Unless of course one is naive and doesn't understand the nature of 'intelligence agencies' and their methods. Particularly MOSSAD/CIA. Circumstantial evidence alone would just about convict him.

What I am wondering is if Trump is dirty or clean. This will be hugely significant going forward. If Trump is dirty, then Epstein is in the right place at the right time for his masters to make sure Trump dances to their tune without fail. Only remaining queston besides who are his masters? Do they want war with Iran, or not? Guess we will know when the next false flag in the Gulf goes off.

unit472 , says: July 13, 2019 at 12:40 pm GMT
@Tono Bungay

@Tono Bungay Sure, the 'international man of mystery' , Epstein, is the issue but the labeling of him as a paedophile by the media is not an accident. Almost 30 years ago, Rep. Gerry Studds could stand on the floor of the House of Representatives and defend his pouring vodka down the gullet of a 16 year old page boy before sodomizing him as 'consensual sex'. Studds was not called a paedophile by the Washington Post or the NYTs.

Raúl Ilargi Meijer has an interesting article at his website ( https://www.theautomaticearth.com/2019/07/why-did-jeffrey-epstein-fly-back-to-the-us/ ) that asks the important question of why did Epstein come back to the US knowing he was going to be indicted?

Something is just not quite right about Epstein's 'career'. Hugh Hefner could live the 'Playboy' life into his nineties and never run afoul of the law or public opinion because his 'girls' driver's licenses said 18.

As a practical matter, to a 40 or 50 year old man looking for some young flesh being 16 or 18 is a distinction without a difference but it makes a world of difference if your goal is blackmail but this begs another question.

If you are Prince Andrew, a billionaire or an ex POTUS do your really need the services of Epstein and Maxwell to get laid- even by a teeny bopper? None of this story makes much sense save for the fact that Epstein has fallen out of favor and must have feared for his life had he stayed in Paris.

bad goy productions , says: Website July 13, 2019 at 4:27 pm GMT

Look into Epstein's connections to the "Mega Group".

https://badgoyproductions.blogspot.com

Brabantian , says: July 13, 2019 at 4:31 pm GMT

The biggest item missing from Gilad Atzmon's look at Jeffrey Epstein, is Epstein's historically biggest financial partner, Les Wexner

Wexner the lead figure in a group of about 20 aggressive Zionist Jewish billionaires named as the 'Mega Group' in the 1990s Wexner possibly the main funder & creator of the whole 'blackmail via under-age girls on an island' scheme

Did Les Wexner, with his fierce wish to destroy the enemies of Zionism, along with his fellow 'Mega Group' billionaires, fund the expensive show of 'Jeffrey Epstein billionaire with private jet' all in order to create a Mossad honeypot blackmail scheme abusing under-age girls, in order to entrap major politicians into being compelled to support Israel? To 'save & protect Jewish lives'?

https://www.henrymakow.com/2019/07/epstein-arrest-is-mossad-operation.html

In 1988 Jeffrey Epstein declared net worth of only USA $20 million where did he get the huge fortune after that?

Wexner's trust bought the New York mansion Epstein lives in, which was raided the other day, Wexner turning it over to Epstein around 1995

Les Wexner has himself been named as the paymaster of kidnappers of a menaced young woman, in a court filing involving Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein, Alan Dershowitz etc

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/07/12/court-document-ties-wexner-and-dershowitz-to-epstein-maxwell-rape-ring/

Dershowitz admits he had a massage at Epstein's place, tho by an 'older Russian woman' and Dersh 'kept his underwear on' maybe this 'Russian' a girl who looked older with all her make-up?

In the 2008 'deal' after Epstein's 2007 indictment, ultra-Zionist Alan Dershowitz was a leading lawyer brokering that deal

Now Dershowitz seems to have sabotaged Epstein, Dershowitz arguing in court that Epstein files should be unsealed and made public Dershowitz won that battle in a US federal appeals court 2 July, 4 days before Epstein was arrested

https://biglawbusiness.com/dershowitz-wins-unsealing-of-epstein-related-defamation-case

Dershowitz claimed he was trying to defend himself but that seems silly Epstein files cannot 'prove a negative' that Dershowitz never raped children, there can only be a lack of evidence and files show Dershowitz deeply connected with Epstein

Daily Beast is the media leading the charge against Epstein now with 'insider scoops' from prosecutors

Daily Beast was founded in 2008 by Jewish media kingpin Barry Diller, & Tina Brown 'who has Jewish grand-father'

On 30 June during the USA 2016 election, The Daily Beast ran a story about how the Jeffrey Epstein files, could destroy either the Clintons or Donald Trump https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-billionaire-pedophile-who-could-bring-down-donald-trump-and-hillary-clinton

https://www.henrymakow.com/2019/07/what-behind-epstein-arrest-now.html

The 'prosecution' of Jeffrey Epstein is ... involving prosecutors connected to both Trumps & Clintons

Lead prosecutor of Epstein is Jewish Geoffrey Berman, law partner of Rudy Giuliani 'Mr 9-11' who is now Donald Trump's top personal lawyer

Assisting Berman, is Maurene Comey, daughter of Hillary ally & former FBI Director James Comey, fired by Trump, Maurene Comey married into the Zionist Issacharoff family, her new father-in-law having taught at Tel Aviv University

Wikipedia, run by CIA-Mossad ex-pornographer Jimmy Wales, close friend of Israeli presidents, has edited Epstein's biography to delete the USA Democrats connected with Epstein and to delete references Epstein is Jewish

Epstein made the same claim as Jimmy Wales, of getting their mysterious money by 'foreign currency trading', which crushes most people who try to do it it seems this is a cover story for getting political money from Jewish sources

EU Police Agency and Prosecutor Report on Wikipedia, an Intel Agency Fraud
http://pastebin.com/BeppgiMJ

At the age of 20, university drop-out Jeffrey Epstein, was hired to teach maths & physics to teen-age girls & boys, at the prestigious private Dalton School in Manhattan, where he worked from 1973-75

The headmaster who hired Epstein, was Jewish convert to Christianity Donald Barr (1921-2004), who is the father of Donald Trump's current Attorney General William Barr (born 1950) who thus has Jewish ancestral heritage

Sean , says: July 13, 2019 at 6:46 pm GMT
@Brabantian hind all these accusations by the woman who has accused Wexner of having sex with her. Her unpublished manuscript for a book did not mention Dershowitz, he was a very late addition. She also originally claimed to have been 15 when she started work with Epstein but now acknowledges she was 17.

No one in their right mind is going to involve their lawyer or allow his to have knowledge of the very crimes that the lawyer is defending him on. First of all, you cannot expect a lawyer to stand up police pressure. Secondly, lawyers are far more effective if they believe their client is innocent.

Colin Wright , says: Website July 13, 2019 at 8:23 pm GMT
@Sean

'Secondly, lawyers are far more effective if they believe their client is innocent.'

No decent lawyer has clients who are innocent.

Colin Wright , says: Website July 13, 2019 at 8:35 pm GMT
@Brabantian llionaires named as the 'Mega Group' in the 1990s Wexner possibly the main funder & creator of the whole 'blackmail via under-age girls on an island' scheme

This works better than either the 'jus' a feller who liked 'em young' or the 'Mossad agent' extremes.

Epstein, Wexner, et al would be like Sheldon Adelson; 'mighty warriors for Yahweh.' They're taking their money and talents and using them to fight the good fight for Israel.

Certainly Israel's happy to benefit -- and no doubt she cooperates fully -- but she's not really the driving engine of this scheme.

I'm not convinced of this myself -- but it makes a better working hypothesis than anything else I've read yet.

Colin Wright , says: Website July 13, 2019 at 8:41 pm GMT
@unit472

' If you are Prince Andrew, a billionaire or an ex POTUS do your really need the services of Epstein and Maxwell to get laid- even by a teeny bopper? '

If you think through the practical scenarios, the answer might be 'yeah, you do.'

that is, unless you shortly want to read all the details about your weekend together with your love-toy in the National Enquirer.

Sean , says: July 13, 2019 at 9:16 pm GMT
@Colin Wright

Lawyers need brains, but also to have a lot of the actor about them to be good in court. They suspend their disbelief, and don't expect the fourth wall to be broken. Even after an acquittal, it is considered very bad form for the client to tell the lawyer he was guilty.

Supposing they are found guilty, there is then less reason than before the trial to make even implicit admissions, because they have one last hope of a successful appeal. So no one is going to give their their lawyer any reason to think they are guilty. Prison is full of innocent convicts.

Sean , says: July 13, 2019 at 9:44 pm GMT
@Colin Wright liked older women, as with Sarah Ferguson (he went gay for a while after that) and Koo Stark. Before that he astounded the the Queen by asking out a friend of hers who was decades older than him.

Anyway the woman fabricating all these these allegations was at least 17 years old at the time. He could have had young looking 18 or 19 year olds as a single man if that was his thing. He could have married a 16 year old if he wanted. Andrew official position at the time was to drum up business for UK exporters, so he hung out with moneyed Wall Street figures. The allegation against him is bullcrap.

Sean , says: July 13, 2019 at 10:05 pm GMT

Epstein was running a multi-million intelligence apparatus set to accumulate dirt on some of the world's most influential people.

Prince Andrew?

Jonathan Mason , says: July 14, 2019 at 12:37 am GMT
@Sean beaten 5-3 by Portugal in the World Cup of 1966 after leading 3-0. This occurred on July 23rd, 1966, 5 days after my fifteenth birthday. (53 years ago.)

I would never confuse that with hearing about the first man walking on the moon on July 20th 1969, 2 days after my eighteenth.

Even if her memory is not as good as mine, she would surely know how old she was and what grade she was in high school when she started working at Mar-A-Lago, and even if she didn't, making legal depositions is not the same as a casual conversation after a few drinks when a slip of the tongue might give the wrong year.

Fran Taubman , says: July 14, 2019 at 12:50 am GMT

You have had a real field day, more like a feast on Epstein for your diet of champions: SCAPEGOATING JEWS.
How delicious it must be for you to have someone so loathed a defense is non existent.
A billionaire pedophile with secret money. Check every box. So easy my poodles could write this feast of Scapegoat crap.
The true test of a lazy mind to figure 3 articles about this guy. Have you done Kabbalah numerology to decipher the meaning of his name in the Torah, or did they find the protocols amongst his belongings, or secret nuclear codes with notes to take over the world? You are a true mental midget Gilad, to weaponize this guy among the Jew hating crowd. But that is your true calling article after article pin the tail on the Jewish scapegoat artist, feed the frenzy.
I leave you with this article by Hirshi Ali, talking about the white elephant in the room. Baked into the DNA of muslims. Interesting how she points out the myth of the Jews buying power, vs the Islamist.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/can-ilhan-omar-overcome-her-prejudice-11562970265

Fran Taubman , says: July 14, 2019 at 1:00 am GMT

The allegation that Jewish or Zionist money controls Congress is nonsensical. The Center for Responsive Politics estimates that the Israeli government has spent $34 million on lobbying in Washington since 2017. The Saudis and Qataris spent a combined $51 million during the same period. If we include foreign nongovernmental organizations, the pro-Israel lobbying figure rises to $63 million -- less than the $68 million spent lobbying for Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.

Hirsi Ali

Islamists have understood well how to couple Muslim anti-Semitism with the American left's vague notion of "social justice." They have succeeded in couching their agenda in the progressive framework of the oppressed versus the oppressor. Identity politics and victimhood culture also provide Islamists with the vocabulary to deflect their critics with accusations of "Islamophobia," "white privilege" and "insensitivity." A perfect illustration was the way Ms. Omar and her allies were able to turn a House resolution condemning her anti-Semitism into a garbled "intersectional" rant in which Muslims emerged as the most vulnerable minority in the league table of victimhood.

Colin Wright , says: Website July 14, 2019 at 1:21 am GMT
@Sean depressing that he spent his time securing acquittals for people who not only were guilty, but were usually very bad actors to boot. After all, first-time offenders can usually do alright with the public defender. By the time anyone hired Spencer, they were usually repeat offenders, had done something horrific again , and were looking at some serious time unless the family threw money into the kitty and paid Spencer's fee.

The other lawyer was a guy who'd gone back to teaching high school after his kids were grown up -- he thought other lawyers sucked. Thinking back over his career, he could think of one client he'd had who was convicted that he genuinely thought was innocent.

Colin Wright , says: Website July 14, 2019 at 1:37 am GMT
@Sean

'Prince Andrew?'

Prince Andrew presumably served to give the operation some 'class.'

Plus, it furnishes some protection. A lot of people would just as soon not see the Royal Family dragged through the mud.

Think of Prince Andrew as the fine wine to go with the meal. Not precisely the steak, but it's certainly an appreciated adjunct.

Colin Wright , says: Website July 14, 2019 at 1:39 am GMT

Epstein's dead meat now. Fran Taubman's taking over the defense.

Notice how the other Zionists are just keeping quiet, Fran?

There's a reason for that.

Fran Taubman , says: July 14, 2019 at 2:15 am GMT
@Colin Wright

There is no defense of him. You never comprehend what I wrote. My point being, the only reason he is being written about is that he is Jewish. So you can imprint all your Jewphobia on to him.
IE: All Jewish men are pedophiles. Its called racism and scapegoating, you are always so slow to understand.
My fault is with Gilad posting every criminal Jew he can get his hands on. "look, look a criminal Jew."

Colin Wright , says: Website July 14, 2019 at 4:04 am GMT
@Fran Taubman bout is that he is Jewish '

I think you actually believe that.

No, Epstein is not being written about because he is Jewish. He is being written about because he variously seduced and raped girls as young as thirteen and trafficked in them to the rich and famous, including almost certainly a former US president.

It's all incredibly corrupt and lurid, including suborned courts and government officials, hints of involvement on the part of a member of the British Royal family, a personal 737 equipped with a bed, and a private island.

This guy would be a story no matter what he was. Face it. If the Jewish angle is having any impact at all, it's probably making some people back off.

Sean , says: July 14, 2019 at 7:30 am GMT
@Colin Wright l their mothers that he had duped them (he paid out tens of millions in compensation as part of the deal). He could have had 18 year olds galore, paid them properly, and even if they went to the press he could say. "So What!"

Instead he is a convicted sex offender who had to agree to register as such to get his plea deal, now any charge against him will be a slam dunk. And the trafficking a 14 year old charge is going to get him life in prison, and because of the previous deal the judge will specify a real prison, which is somewhere Epstein will have to be isolated and soon wish himself dead.

freedom-cat , says: July 14, 2019 at 8:05 am GMT

And the focus will stay on Epstein so that all the Elites who were sexually assaulting 11-16 year old girls and boys on that island will remain covered up. So far, they have only mentioned the same names they have already mentioned the first time this story broke; Clinton, Prince Andrew, and a couple others.

So, it is likely that much more powerful people who were involved will be protected from indictment.

anon [300] Disclaimer , says: July 14, 2019 at 1:00 pm GMT
@Bill Jones

Because Jewsus loves all the children of the world, red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight. We all bleed red, man! "He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth." (Acts 17:26)

Colin Wright , says: Website July 14, 2019 at 4:38 pm GMT
@Sean hey'd have a hell of a time if they started trying to make sure he never got drunk and fired off his assault rifle in the camp ground.

My point here is that like the N.R.A., Israel can command the allegiance of quite an army of supporters. It's not, however, a very disciplined army, and Israel can't actually keep many of these troops from acting like idiots if they feel like acting like idiots. They're allies, actually; not servants. Israel goes to them, and says 'would you,' or they come to Israel and say 'I could' -- but then they go off on their own and have that hot little shiksa who wouldn't even look at them when they were a pimply adolescent. There's nothing Israel can do about that.

Sean , says: July 14, 2019 at 8:36 pm GMT

A) As part of a sophisticated secret service operation for compromising VIPs, Epstein became a self confessed child molester who pled guilty to specimen charges. He then helpfully left thousands of photos of victims he had not faced charges about strewn around his properties, so that investigators could easily frame new charges that would–will–put him in prison for the rest of his life.

B) Epstein got his dick caught in his zipper. No one can understand how a financial conjurer of considerable personal charm could have been so stupid, so it is being assumed that there was much more to it than other sex scandals like Weinstein, Luis K . But the accounts of Epstein's victims are in fact very similar to the aforementioned cases. Epstein liked mastubating in front of the girls as much as if not rather more rather than actually having sex with them. The assertion that Epstein 'belonged to intelligence' and the prosecutor was told to "to leave it alone" (although Epstein was sent to prison amid huge publicity) came from the prosecutor himself, Acosta, who was bullshitting.

Parisian Guy , says: July 14, 2019 at 9:13 pm GMT
@Fran Taubman

As usually practiced by those who want to hide reality, unfitted comparison is made by Fran Taubman.

The way that zionists control Congress is not by the power of money. It is by the power of medias. Bad press can kill any congressman reelection.

[Jul 14, 2019] MI6 was allowing Prince Andrew to be blackmailed by mr nobody, lone blackmailer?

Notable quotes:
"... "Epstein is a weapon being used by one faction of the oligarchy to dispossess another faction of an important tool, to wit - Donald Trump, so that the one faction can either co-opt this important tool or insert their own important tool into the White House to gain control over the U.S. military." ..."
"... Well revenge is a dish best served cold so maybe the Clinton cabal is about to finally get those much talked about orange jumpsuits? ..."
"... You don't get rich people to come to your parties without seed money and recommendations from other wealthy people beyond your dealings as a bank employee . You also don't get someone like Maxwells daughter to recruit the young girls without someone behind you. ..."
"... The Jeffrey Epstein case opens up a huge can of worms that is only just beginning to unravel. It has the potential to set Wall Street against Israel, if anyone thought that was possible. ..."
Jul 14, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

Alaric , Jul 14 2019 1:06 utc | 101

Hillary Clinton attempted a soft coup against trump that was aided by the US intellIgence community and the sitting president (obama). But she couldn't handle a lone blackmailer (epstein). No i don't think so. Keep in mind that Hillary was also backed by incredibly powerful interests who would also literally burry Epstein if need be.

MI6 was allowing Prince Andrew to be blackmailed by mr nobody, lone blackmailer?

There is more to this story. Epstein was (is) protected by someone or an entity of enormous power.


JasonT , Jul 14 2019 1:11 utc | 102

Bemildred #96

Yes. We should see more in the next few weeks/months.

uncle tungsten #100
The big players are not on the boards of the listed corporations. The board members are flunkies - important flunkies but flunkies nevertheless. The big players stay behind the scenes.

frances , Jul 14 2019 1:15 utc | 103
"Epstein is a weapon being used by one faction of the oligarchy to dispossess another faction of an important tool, to wit - Donald Trump, so that the one faction can either co-opt this important tool or insert their own important tool into the White House to gain control over the U.S. military."
Posted by: JasonT | Jul 14 2019 0:07 utc | 94

I agree with Epstein being a weapon, but whose is the question, Barr is running this remember so my guess is Epstein may be Trump's weapon. If so, who is his target? Well revenge is a dish best served cold so maybe the Clinton cabal is about to finally get those much talked about orange jumpsuits?

This act of revenge wouldn't negate the possibility he is going to be used to get sign-off from congress for an attack on Iran. I hope not, but I have a very, very bad feeling about this.

psychohistorian , Jul 14 2019 1:16 utc | 104
@ uncle tungsten who wrote about the unknown elite
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There has been a lot of discussion on various threads as to who the big players are.
"
I have written here multiple times about how misleading it is to have a Fortune 500 of the richest people but knowing what we all do about Trusts, how come there isn't ongoing reportage of the Fortune 500 biggest Trust funds in the world and their owners?
frances , Jul 14 2019 1:23 utc | 105
reply to
frances @93 & JasonT @94: The problem is Trump doesn't look like one of the most likely targets, and he is not blabbering uncontrollably about it now. It seems unlikely to work...If Epstein is really in the middle of a war among the elites, I expect we will see more evidence of it soon,"
Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 14 2019 0:24 utc | 96

I don't think Trump is the target, I think Congress is the target and the one(s) running the play is Israel and its Zionist supporters. Trump if forced/supported by Congress concurrent with a False Flag or two will probably attack but only if they guarantee him a second term. The only possible fail safe is the US military who know a meat grinder when they see one and might refuse.

paul , Jul 14 2019 1:25 utc | 106
As I think someone else mentioned, it seems very plausible that Epstein played a game like the one described. But I don't think you can play that game on the level he seems to have done without some heavy backing. Alphabet agency? Or something deeper than that?
Bemildred , Jul 14 2019 1:30 utc | 107
karlof1 @97: Yes, I just read a story where he (Dershowitz) claims there is sealed evidence that will exonerate him. I dunno if I believe it, but it does explain it. And he does seem to think better of speaking out now.

For the larger question of who is out to get whom, it's clear some people want to use it to get Trump, it's not clear that Trump is afraid. I think we need more evidence for that. Right now it looks to me like more of the Trump Show(tm).

Pft , Jul 14 2019 1:34 utc | 108
Doesnt pass the sniff test to me.

You don't get rich people to come to your parties without seed money and recommendations from other wealthy people beyond your dealings as a bank employee . You also don't get someone like Maxwells daughter to recruit the young girls without someone behind you.

You also find yourself dead or in jail pretty quick blackmailing too many rich and powerful people unless you have serious muscle behind you. My money is the blackmailing was done by intelligence agencies who warned them what happens if anything happens to their pal Jeffrey

But if you want to propose a theory where intelligence agencies that Dershowitz and Acosta believed were involved weren't involved, then go for it. Many people will believe anything if it comes from someone they trust.

karlof1 , Jul 14 2019 1:36 utc | 109
As for Mike Cernovich's outlook on this affair, he retweeted this cartoon implying he agrees with its message: Taking down Epstein somehow gets Bill Clinton. Recall I provided grounds for such angst/motivation by DNC tactics against Trump during election campaign, and Cernovich is clearly a Trumpster. Indeed, IMO Cernovich is the unknown entity in this, his motivation he has yet to provide, although he somewhat hints at it in this post from his blog, which includes a rough timeline of the court proceedings. In reading a few more of Cernovich's blog entries, I still don't get a clear indication of his motivation to join Dershowitz in 2017. Perhaps given his stated disappointment in the charges filed, he wanted to get to the bigger fish that Epstein catered to, which is a good reason....
div> frances @103 & 105: Yes I've seen that theory too, and it works better, but still lots of speculation.

Posted by: Bemildred , Jul 14 2019 1:37 utc | 110

frances @103 & 105: Yes I've seen that theory too, and it works better, but still lots of speculation.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 14 2019 1:37 utc | 110

William Gruff , Jul 14 2019 1:51 utc | 111
The CIA gets the bulk of its financing from trafficking in drugs, weapons, and people (a lot of sex slaves but also weird stuff like live organ donors). All of the large cartels have been destroyed yet the volume of cocaine entering the US has remained the same, so clearly the CIA has largely cornered the market on cocaine trafficking.

Yet for some reason law enforcement has suddenly started busting large shipments. `Till now the CIA has had no difficulty bringing in cocaine by the ton, but something seems to have changed recently. What could that be?

A large scale CIA kompromat operation has been effectively shut down with the arrest of Epstein. Why now?

It could just be that the CIA has lost its mojo and is now fumbling everything. Considering the current crop of delusional cricket-fearing youngsters that have been replacing the crusty oldsters in the CIA, this is entirely possible if not probable.

Or it could be that someone has amassed some power and is retaliating for Russiagate and is hitting the CIA where it hurts the most in order to bring them to heel.

Either way, things are starting to look tough for the empire's kneecappers.

Piotr Berman , Jul 14 2019 2:17 utc | 112
The Jeffrey Epstein case opens up a huge can of worms that is only just beginning to unravel. It has the potential to set Wall Street against Israel, if anyone thought that was possible. Posted by: Lochearn | Jul 13 2019 22:32 utc

Can we make a small bet that the story will peter out without huge sensations? Preposition A: the story does not have much potential. So nothing much will happen, JE will probably serve some time. Preposition not A: the story hides explosive aspect. Well, such stories have a tendency to be buried (or prosecutors have a tendency to bury them). So either way, we can enjoy some speculations, but earth will not shake.

Concerning "setting Wall Street against Israel", it is more probable to see a civil war in Israel before that will happen. Perhaps I did not catch that this is a joke.

Albert , Jul 14 2019 2:24 utc | 113
To me this is the most plausible explanation from Dr. Steve Pieczenik who was Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance and James Baker.[2] His expertise includes foreign policy, international crisis management and psychological warfare.[7] He served the presidential administrations of Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush in the capacity of deputy assistant secretary.[8]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6-gUqNPi4I&feature=em-uploademail

Wakan , Jul 14 2019 2:43 utc | 114
The fact that the federal reserve has seen Powell and Shelton, both goyim, is connected to Epstein being taken down. We are witnessing the slow dismantling of Jewish influence and power in this country.
karlof1 , Jul 14 2019 2:50 utc | 115
I wonder what Epstein would think of all this time and energy spent on his predicament? What might he say to us regarding where to look. IMO, if we can dig up the roots, we can determine what made his tree grow. The clues are likely in all that documentation that was just unsealed but not yet released to the public.

[Jul 14, 2019] A Plausible Theory Of What Jeffrey Epstein Was Actually Doing

Not so plausible: MI6 was allowing Prince Andrew to be blackmailed by mr nobody, lone blackmailer?
Notable quotes:
"... If CIA/Mossad/MI6 got wind of a whole bag full of influential people being extorted by Epstein how long until they wanted in on the game? ..."
"... A clever, high dollar blackmail scheme as described could very easily draw the attention of the CIA/Mossad. Very useful to them. Important government officials involved - along with those that fund them. ..."
"... I am thinking one has to be a little careful about blackmailing billionaires - I hear the price to have someone eliminated is not very high but I really have no knowledge in that area. People would have to fear the guy. Likely he would have to be pretty well connected with people who are taken seriously. ..."
"... An intel connection is far and away the best explanation of the kid-gloves treatment Epstein got. ..."
"... It seems clear that there's an effort to paint Epstein as simple blackmailer accompanied by wringing of hands over the rich vs. poor dynamic. Epstein's connections to wealthy Jewish Zionists and possible connections to intelligence agency(s) (as per Acosta) is being played down. A good example of this is provided by a link from the last thread: The case of Jeffrey Epstein and the depravity of America's financial elite where: ..."
"... The idea that the CIA/Mossad/FBI etc. might be involved in the Epstein affair isn't new. In fact such tactics are as old as the hills. Such tactics are known in the trade as "honey traps." What may separate the Epstein affair is its extensive reach. ..."
"... The most important question has to be What role played the intelligence agencies, the FBI, the legislative and the executive in this 'poor/abducted-children-sex-slave-market'? ..."
"... I find it totally unbelievable that Epstein was not a front for a bigger organization or he would be dead by now. ..."
"... AFAIK, the unsealing had nothing to do with Epstein's recent arrested. Instead, it appears that the arrest was based on a new allegation that resulted in a search of his NY home which turned up evidence of child sex. ..."
"... Trump seems unworried to me, Luongo seems to think Trump is behind it, and Barr runs DOJ these days, Trump's own private St. Bernard dog AG. ..."
"... I ask you to explain how Epstein's large jet, a Boeing 737, shares a tail number with one used by the Department of State? That's like my car sharing the same plate number as Mike Pompeo. Life just doesn't work like that. But, with a tail number that corresponds to Epstein's aircraft being identified at the tower as Mike Pompeo's the benefits to that are huge ..."
"... Yes. The Monica honey trap pushed Bill Clinton into attacking Yugoslavia by way of creating a distraction from the Monica honey trap. Of note is that Hillary boasts (in a Clinton biography) about her persuasive efforts in getting Bill to bomb civilians in Belgrade. ..."
"... it is like throwing a bomb into the usa political theatre a little over a year before the next usa election circus.. Acosta is now gone and the question is, who is next?? the fact Epstein came back suggests he is a puppet on a string.. whose string?? i am leaning towards jrs view this is aimed at trump, but don't have the same conviction as jr.. we'll see how it unfolds.. ..."
"... If the stories about the CIA's participation in the drug trade are correct, they have essentially unlimited sums of money to throw around. ..."
"... To me, this seems like the 2 sides who are fighting for control of DC have both invoked their nuclear options and now both sides are fighting to control the narrative so that it smears their opponents more than them. I say that because this happened from 2 different directions. You had the Cernovich lawsuit about unsealing and the sudden rush to do something in NY. ..."
"... Epstein's climb up the greasy pole was too easy for a lazy pervert. But he was of high value as a honey trap maestro. ..."
"... So I don't see this as a simple case of blackmail for profit. It's a nice scam, and perhaps that was also involved. But sooner or later - especially with Maxwell's involvement - Israel's Mossad and other intelligence agencies would see this as the perfect way to get dirt on tons of people in the US elites. ..."
"... Quantian's theory looks neat and elegant, as would be expected of someone who studies mathematics, but it does lead MoA barflies (a few of whom have done so) to ask how Epstein could have got his scheme started in the first place, even given that he'd worked for Bear Stevens in the past and already had a tiny financial pile from which to launch his blackmailing scheme. Epstein would not have been the only person spruiking a very exclusive boutique hedge fund in the early 1980s, when he first started it and when there were few billionaires in the US and beyond. ..."
"... Clinton could be the sacrificial fall guy to close up this case and put it to bed. I do not expect much out of a Republican DOJ other than to cover its friends asses. Either way I expect the Democrats to take the bigger hit. ..."
"... The Jeffrey Epstein case opens up a huge can of worms that is only just beginning to unravel. It has the potential to set Wall Street against Israel, if anyone thought that was possible. ..."
"... What happens to Israel if it's proven that Epstein was running a honey pot operation involving pedophiles for the benefit of Mossad blackmail of the most powerful people - including Presidents - in the US and elsewhere? ..."
"... People don't generally continue to hang out with someone who is blackmailing them. Epstein maintained relationships for almost two decades with his clients. They only distanced themselves after the bust and probably not even then. ..."
"... Epstein provided VIPs with a service and they trusted and protect him to this day. They even rehabilitated him after his jail time. ..."
Jul 14, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org
KC , Jul 13 2019 17:44 utc | 1

The first Jeffrey Epstein thread has grown a bit long. Here is a follow up.

For an introduction to the Epstein case please read this .

A question that no one could so far answer is how Epstein got as rich as he appears to be. A person who calls himself Quantian has an interesting theory of what Epstein was actually doing.

Here is the short version:

Epstein offered the post puberty teenyboppers he seduced and/or bribed to the rich people he knew. He invited lots of interesting people - artists, scientists, politicians, rich businessman - to his exclusive parties. There were always these young girls around. There was always a free bedroom. There were also cameras in place. When one of the rich guys messed with a girl Epstein would blackmail him.

But instead of taking cash he asked them for investments in his offshore hedge fund. For someone who owns billions it is peanuts to put a few dozen millions into a fund. It is legal. The money isn't gone. It will even bear interests.

Epstein is not known for having done much currency trades or other larger Wall Street transactions. His company is small, he didn't work a lot. It is likely he mostly re-invested the money in a simple index stock fund which follows the S&P 500. Those type of funds brought over the years quite a good profit.

Epstein would have taken the typical hedge fund fee of 2/20 which is 2% of the investment per year plus 20% of the profits. The hedge fund would be completely legal and there would be no tax troubles. The entrapped people would simply have to stay invested to keep Epstein quiet and the video tapes off the broadsheet market. Some billionaires might have invested upfront to gain access to the girls.

For Epstein the scheme would have been a very elegant way to pursue his personal 'hobby' while creating an ever growing income.

Quantian's theory sounds very plausible to me. It conforms with everything that is publicly known about Epstein and about what he was doing. It does not require any additional conspiracy theory about Mossad/Mafia/CIA involvement. But it also doesn't exclude that there is some.

Posted by b at 17:30 UTC | Comments (114) Invariably some CIA, Mossad or other deep cover employees and assets would have been caught up in such a scheme, attended a party etc. I still think Epstein himself was at one time such an asset.

librul , Jul 13 2019 17:45 utc | 2


If CIA/Mossad/MI6 got wind of a whole bag full of influential people being extorted by Epstein how long until they wanted in on the game?
fastfreddy , Jul 13 2019 18:05 utc | 3
Very plausible theory. Makes a lot of sense.

When there are other avenues of revenue generation available, these will be exploited by a con man like Epstein.

A clever, high dollar blackmail scheme as described could very easily draw the attention of the CIA/Mossad. Very useful to them. Important government officials involved - along with those that fund them.

No reason why Epstein would not find himself suddenly involved and much appreciated.

c1ue , Jul 13 2019 18:06 utc | 4
There is much more credible evidence that Epstein was/is simply a scammer.
Note this lawsuit from a convicted felon, accusing Epstein of enjoying the spoils of a pyramid scheme run by said felon .
jared , Jul 13 2019 18:13 utc | 5
@b
That sounds like the official version, nobody at fault, nobody hurt. I think the blackmail part is a little bit illegal and the person on giving end would not be too happy about it.

Also I am thinking one has to be a little careful about blackmailing billionaires - I hear the price to have someone eliminated is not very high but I really have no knowledge in that area. People would have to fear the guy. Likely he would have to be pretty well connected with people who are taken seriously.

You would think the fine people in the intelligence service would have sucked-down all that info would probably lead to some interesting people and endeavors, but that does not appear to be what happened. Did Acosta just make that up about he is an asset of IC? Is Trump (or others) worried about the guy being in custody?

The time line is worth considering, he is let go ten years ago and no fuss is made, now a reporter investigates and suddenly all breaks loss and Lindsey is horrified. So they pry into his home and can you believe they find pictures of criminal activity on his coffee table (like passport of terrorists - leave them at home guys). And suddenly they don't care where it will lead.

Separately if anybody isn't aware, kidnapping of children and slavery of all kinds is widespread - it appeared they were on track to legalize it - think Oxfam, sexual tourism, not to mention I don't think guys check ID when using prostitutes and that is now legitimate (taxable) profession - they advertise in my local paper.

Weird story has me thinking: When I was getting married many years ago, my "friends" throw bachelor party for me involving gambling hookers and hotel room. I was not interested in the hookers (scared of that) but girls starts dancing around the room to get everyone excited (Im not sure her age) and while this is happening one of the instigators (a "friend" who also happens to be federal employee) pulls out an SLR and starts snapping away. Through drunken fog I am thinking this is too weird and left. I feel like most people in government are seriously screwed-up.

lysias , Jul 13 2019 18:26 utc | 6
An intel connection is far and away the best explanation of the kid-gloves treatment Epstein got.
Jackrabbit , Jul 13 2019 18:30 utc | 7
Sharks in the water
Swim at your own risk

It seems clear that there's an effort to paint Epstein as simple blackmailer accompanied by wringing of hands over the rich vs. poor dynamic. Epstein's connections to wealthy Jewish Zionists and possible connections to intelligence agency(s) (as per Acosta) is being played down. A good example of this is provided by a link from the last thread: The case of Jeffrey Epstein and the depravity of America's financial elite where:

> no mention is made of Acosta's "belonged to intelligence" claim;

> no mention is made of the billionaire Jewish Zionists that were Epsein's pals/clients; and

> no mention is made of his compatriot Ghislane Maxwell.

Anyone that's unsure if such suspicions have merit should take note of the transparent manipulation.

Here's another example:

Commenter 'somebody' has taken the misdirection to new heights with his concern-trolling about child poverty. 'somebody' would probably give Epstein a medal for his humanitarian efforts.

div> Harvey Swinestein and Jeffry Epstein: just two more lecherous rich jews caught with their pants down.

Posted by: Young American , Jul 13 2019 18:35 utc | 8

Harvey Swinestein and Jeffry Epstein: just two more lecherous rich jews caught with their pants down.

Posted by: Young American | Jul 13 2019 18:35 utc | 8

Jayne , Jul 13 2019 18:37 utc | 9
A fluff and distraction piece that doesn't' bother (really!) to bring in the 'Hidden in Plain Sight' occult component.

Symbolism and ritual is rife with the Uber-Elite -- partly (and I would say partly) because they have so much time on their hands. He was chosen for some reason by whom we may or may not find out to do any heinous act they asked of him. He obviously got paid very well for doing it -- as well as being extremely protected -- until now -- maybe? By the way, wondering where Maxwell is?

Foxbat , Jul 13 2019 18:40 utc | 10
Another explanation is that this operation was the product of a consortium of rich and powerful pedos. In exchange for parking your money with Epstein you gained access to his girls in NY and the pedo fantasy island. The blackmail material as such was collected in order to insure that no one could snitch out others without implicating themselves.
Stever , Jul 13 2019 18:40 utc | 11
"Revealed: Jeffrey Epstein Entered Partnership Worth Millions With Ehud Barak in 2015"

"In 2015 Barak set up a limited partnership, in which he is the sole shareholder. That company invested in Reporty Homeland Security, established in 2014, becoming a major shareholder. Last year Reporty changed its name to Carbyne. The company develops call-handling and identification capabilities for emergency response services."

"One of Epstein's prominent clients was Leslie Wexner, founder and chairman of the parent company of Victoria's Secret's and other companies. Epstein financed and managed the Wexner Foundation, a philanthropic organization that operates training programs to advance leadership and excellence in Israel and among North American Jews."

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-revealed-jeffrey-epstein-entered-million-dollar-partnership-with-ehud-barak-in-2015-1.7493648

pierrep , Jul 13 2019 18:41 utc | 12
Please don't forget that many of the so called blackmailed subjects certainly had access to INSIDE INFORMATION that they could have shared and thus much higher profits.....
GeorgeV , Jul 13 2019 18:43 utc | 13
The idea that the CIA/Mossad/FBI etc. might be involved in the Epstein affair isn't new. In fact such tactics are as old as the hills. Such tactics are known in the trade as "honey traps." What may separate the Epstein affair is its extensive reach.

The US Secretary of Labor has already resigned and it may be likely that many more will be implicated in one way or another. There are already rumors that former US President Bill Clinton and current President Donald Trump may be involved. In any case, we may learn that this scandal is like a proverbial iceberg: 10 percent in view, 90 percent below the water. This may be a Titanic-like scandal and like that ill-fated ship, many will be dragged down and there won't be enough life boats.

somebody , Jul 13 2019 18:44 utc | 14
I doubt the simple explanation. Epstein seems to have been involved in a lot of "charities", "foundations", whatever.

So I guess he did a lot of moneylaundering via charity .

The gist of the money laundering allegation is that parents made fake "charitable contributions" to the foundation, ostensibly to help "underprivileged children" but actually as payment in exchange for somebody helping them cheat on the ACT or SAT, or to bribe athletic coaches and officials at the "highly selective" universities to which the parents (and/or their children) aspired. The charity substantiated the "contribution" by issuing letters attesting that "no property or services" were given in exchange for the "contribution."

Epstein started out as a teacher for rich kids, so he would know what parents would do to get their kids to universities, jobs, art projects whatever, especially if tax deductable.

The guests at his island seem to have come from science, universities, the arts, politics - they were groomed to be corrupt, to receive money, not blackmailed to give money.

Stumpy , Jul 13 2019 18:45 utc | 15
Sounds plausible. The IC connection may be a good guess if the harvesting of young flesh is a recruiting tool, both for future assets of enticement as well as dark-channel ops support.

Given the reach of both the Epstein case and the Mueller investigation, the delay in Mueller's appearance on Capitol Hill might be to clear the public palate of one scandal in order to not steal thunder from another, or some re-orchestration of who owes whom given the threat of pending revelations. Just a thought.

They will one day ask you to kill your closest friends. Who said that?

nottheonly1 , Jul 13 2019 18:49 utc | 16

The most important question has to be What role played the intelligence agencies, the FBI, the legislative and the executive in this 'poor/abducted-children-sex-slave-market'?

It is also interesting that people point to Libya, while referring to the outcome of a Clinton/Obama campaign to sodomize Colonel Qaddafi, that ended up creating a flourishing slave-market.

"Would you like to buy a young Bedouin girl? She is really pretty. We have ways for her to get to you in New York. We'll take care of the procedure..."

The bucket stops here. It didn't stop with the organ-snatchers obviously. Or with water boarding, torture, DU, war crimes and crimes against what goes for Humanity.

This much more than the personal sexual preferences of a con artist. It is the con artist of the agencies and the deep state. There are more rich people who fantasize about a manga-like teenager than is allowed to allure. But that's how it is. It is culture to have naked young women everywhere. Just set your search engine to 'no filter' and you will see.

Do you know how many music industry hits exist that feature a 'sweet young girl'? A sweet 16? And what would they do with a sweet 16? Looking at the stamp collection? Playing Wolfenstein 3D?

This is the final call to destroy the network of organized crime with government participation. In a very odd way one could say that they might snatch your young daughter, too, if you don't stop them from doing it. That's called 'preventative measures'. The time to protect the people from their out- and above law government agencies.

This will be a global revolt. Because one thing these people have forgotten about. Like they forget about the arctic dynamics. The 'self-dynamics' of life/the universe. Things turn always out different from what one wanted them to. There will be more attempts to put grey noise over this vast conspiracy to exploit the working class/poor.

The implications are incomprehensibly multifaceted.

bad goy productions , Jul 13 2019 18:51 utc | 17
This nickel and dime theory doesn't add up. Epstein allegedly refused any investment under a billion dollars. Epstein was mossad connected vis Ghislaine Maxwell and the "Mega Group".

https://badgoyproductions.blogspot.com

lysias , Jul 13 2019 18:53 utc | 19
The scientists and academics were there to provide superrespectability. Same reason the Sacklers fund art galleries.
Jackrabbit , Jul 13 2019 18:55 utc | 20
Did Pedophile Jeffrey Epstein Work for Mossad?
Epstein's contact with the Israeli intelligence service may have plausibly come through his associations with Ghislaine Maxwell, who allegedly served as his key procurer of young girls. Ghislaine is the daughter of Robert Maxwell, who died or possibly was assassinated in mysterious circumstances in 1991. Maxwell was an Anglo-Jewish businessman, very cosmopolitan in profile, like Epstein, a multi-millionaire who was very controversial with what were regarded as ongoing ties to Mossad. After his death, he was given a state funeral by Israel in which six serving and former heads of Israeli intelligence listened while Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir eulogized: "He has done more for Israel than can today be said".
Bemildred , Jul 13 2019 18:58 utc | 21
A question I've had on my mind:

Why Did Jeffrey Epstein Fly Back To The US?

lysias , Jul 13 2019 19:00 utc | 22
Any connection between this Mega Group and the Mega superspy that Israeli/Jewish messages said they only contacted on supremely important matters?
mh505 , Jul 13 2019 19:04 utc | 23
It does not require any additional conspiracy theory about Mossad/Mafia/CIA involvement.

It does get a bit tiresome to inform b that his use of the term "conspiracy theory" is not only counter-productive but false. A theory is a theory and not a conspiracy, unless proven otherwise. Moreover, he is falling once again into that old trap laid by the CIA in the 60s

Stumpy , Jul 13 2019 19:05 utc | 24
Posted by: nottheonly1 | Jul 13 2019 18:49 utc | 16

Marketing tools.

"Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise."

– The Duchess, Alice in Wonderland

karlof1 , Jul 13 2019 19:10 utc | 25
I concur with most that the hypothesis cited by b isn't complete as it doesn't account for how Epstein was "seeded."

Furthermore, there's a big problem with people thinking this just suddenly happened now when the lawsuit to unseal Epstein's trial and plea agreement was filed on 27 JAN 2017 just after Trump became POTUS. Additionally, Epstein was one of Mueller's Russiagate sources, and Mueller was part of the BushCo DoJ team involved with the plea bargain.

So, people in the know knew the Epstein case was going to be reopened on some level; however, the Miami Herald didn't start its reinvestigation until recently, although Mike Cernovich--the co-plaintiff along with Alan Dershowitz--doesn't try to say its efforts were worthless.

No, something bigger is at work here as it's already cost one former BushCo DoJ member his high position within TrumpCo, which makes the seemly simple, Occam's Razor-like, explanation an attempt to sweep it all back under the rug.

james , Jul 13 2019 19:11 utc | 26
sorry b, but i agree with lysias and a few others.. this has intel agencies written all over it..
Harry Law , Jul 13 2019 19:16 utc | 27
I suspect Epstein used blackmail to gain his millions rather similar to the MO of Jerad Kushners father.....

Jerad Kushners father Charles was jailed for illegal campaign contributions, tax evasion and witness tampering, the witness-tampering charge arose from Kushner's act of retaliation against William Schulder, his sister Esther's husband, who was cooperating with federal investigators; Kushner hired a prostitute to seduce his brother-in-law, arranged to record an encounter between the two, and had the tape sent to his sister. He was sentenced to two years in prison,[ and served 14 months at Federal Prison Camp, Montgomery in Alabama. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Kushner

somebody , Jul 13 2019 19:29 utc | 29
Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 13 2019 19:10 utc | 25

Epstein was one of Mueller's Russiagate sources, and Mueller was part of the BushCo DoJ team involved with the plea bargain.

I need a link for this. Muller was FBI director during Epstein's sweet deal and ...?

psychohistorian , Jul 13 2019 19:37 utc | 30
@ b with the theory that Epstein was acting alone

I find it totally unbelievable that Epstein was not a front for a bigger organization or he would be dead by now.

The timing of this kabuki in the middle of all the other geo-political stuff going on says tons about how deep Epstein is in the "management of the puppets"

Do MoA barflies know about the movie Wag the Dog? This has Wag the Dog written all over it.

I continue to posit that the crime at the bottom of all this is global private finance that has been running the show for centuries. They are pulling the Epstein situation out of the bag now for one or more reasons, deflection being a big one.....deflection from what?

Maybe it relates to Trump and his immigration stomp in America tomorrow?

Epstein is a symptom of a structural problem in the social contract of the West having private finance instead of public. Global private finance is the cancer and all the rest are symptoms of this cancer

Jackrabbit , Jul 13 2019 19:43 utc | 31
Bemildred @21: Why Did Jeffrey Epstein Fly Back To The US?

karlof1 @25: something bigger is at work here

There's nothing 'bigger' than war with Syria or Iran. Trump said he called off an attack on Iran. Maybe Israel didn't like that and feels the need to exert additional pressure?

@karlof1: Bemildred's link @21 provides a good review of the unsealing of records. The unsealing was first rejected, then an appellate court order the unsealing of only a small portion: apparently only "summary judgement" material. But releasing redacted versions of the summary judgement material could take a long time.

AFAIK, the unsealing had nothing to do with Epstein's recent arrested. Instead, it appears that the arrest was based on a new allegation that resulted in a search of his NY home which turned up evidence of child sex.

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Many (mostly trolls) are saying that this could be bad for the Democratic Party because Bill Clinton was close to Epstein. But AFAICT, Bill Clinton is no long active in the Democratic Party (except indirectly as Hillary's husband and private political consultant). It's unlikely that Israel cares much about Bill Clinton's already-tarnished reputation.

As the current President, Trump has much more to lose from ANY association with Epstein. Epstein's arrest sets up a new blackmail: do what we say (war!) or Epstein will spill the beans via a plea bargain. IT DOESN'T MATTER if Trump partook in the sexual abuse - if Epstein names him then Trump loses the 2020 election and the 'Trump' reputation at the core of his lucrative licensing business. A loss of value that could easily be in the hundreds of millions of dollars.

This is perfect leverage against a man that we all know to be very ego-centric and money-motivated.

lysias , Jul 13 2019 19:44 utc | 32
I recently learned that China only has government banks, not privately held banks. This is enough to explain why they are beating us so badly economically. Unless we learn lessons from their success, they will continue to beat us.
lysias , Jul 13 2019 19:48 utc | 33
Was the Monica scandal the way the Powers That Be forced Bill Clinton to attack Serbia in the Kosovo War?
Bemildred , Jul 13 2019 20:00 utc | 34
Jack Rabbit @31: Well that is the question, who is trying to get whom here? Are there perhaps more than one effort to get someone going on here? Epstein seems to have precipitated his own arrest, did he risk one more quick trip and get caught, or did he walk into it knowingly? What is all that incriminating evidence doing still there in his mansion? He doesn't look that sentimental about his victims. Maybe that is what he came back for?

Trump seems unworried to me, Luongo seems to think Trump is behind it, and Barr runs DOJ these days, Trump's own private St. Bernard dog AG.

I'm not taking any position on it, I'm just not happy with what I'm being told. Waiting for the other shoe to drop.

joetv , Jul 13 2019 20:01 utc | 35
The author makes it all seem less than it really is. I ask you to explain how Epstein's large jet, a Boeing 737, shares a tail number with one used by the Department of State? That's like my car sharing the same plate number as Mike Pompeo. Life just doesn't work like that. But, with a tail number that corresponds to Epstein's aircraft being identified at the tower as Mike Pompeo's the benefits to that are huge .

Was he able to avoid international customs when he traveled? Probably. Could he transport illicit items, or people without fear of scrutiny? Probably. Use your imagination. This guy is connected, and it wouldn't surprise me if he's a member of Mason Lodge P2.

Kristan hinton , Jul 13 2019 20:03 utc | 36
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Yes. The Monica honey trap pushed Bill Clinton into attacking Yugoslavia by way of creating a distraction from the Monica honey trap. Of note is that Hillary boasts (in a Clinton biography) about her persuasive efforts in getting Bill to bomb civilians in Belgrade.

Jayne , Jul 13 2019 20:09 utc | 37
More real noodle stuff for you guys and gals...

Thank You Steve Pieczenik!!! I don't always agree with you, but I'm so with you on this -- Evil is Evil -- period...

There is another esoteric layer but maybe this is the start and less painful path way to lay down the truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=438&v=R6-gUqNPi4I

David , Jul 13 2019 20:14 utc | 38

Epstein is a man who has the means to live anywhere in the world he choices. Why would he risk a return to the US at this time, shortly after a court rules that his court record be unsealed? Why would he keep highly incriminating evidence in his home? He is either breathtakingly arrogant and stupid or something else is going on.
james , Jul 13 2019 20:15 utc | 39
as for quantians theory on epsteins money - it is a viable hypothesis...but to me the money focus is a complete distraction.. all of these freaks are insane kleptomaniacs + more to begin with.. almost no one with vast amounts of money has gotten it legally, or they've written the laws to make what they do legal..

why now? it is like throwing a bomb into the usa political theatre a little over a year before the next usa election circus.. Acosta is now gone and the question is, who is next?? the fact Epstein came back suggests he is a puppet on a string.. whose string?? i am leaning towards jrs view this is aimed at trump, but don't have the same conviction as jr.. we'll see how it unfolds..

Ike , Jul 13 2019 20:16 utc | 40
@31 Epstein's arrest sets up a new blackmail: do what we say (war!)

That line nails it. More disturbingly what Epstein reveals could all be bullshit and the Trump campaign would still be seriously wounded.

Netanyahu wants a war. The western financial elite needs a war/scapegoat to distract public attention in their desperation to hold onto global financial power

Activist Potato , Jul 13 2019 20:20 utc | 41
I do not believe Epstein was simply a con man with an elegant scheme. A simple con man does not get away with blackmailing extremely powerful people on his own. Something big was behind him - exactly what is open to debate and speculation.
pantaraxia , Jul 13 2019 20:21 utc | 42
The popularised version of Epstein's source of wealth, which fits in nicely with b's offering, seems to be along the following lines:

Jeffrey Epstein: International Moneyman of Mystery
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/n_7912/index1.html

"In 1982, according to those who know Epstein, he set up his own shop, J. Epstein and Co., which remains his core business today. The premise behind it was simple: Epstein would manage the individual and family fortunes of clients with $1 billion or more. Which is where the mystery deepens. Because according to the lore, Epstein, in 1982, immediately began collecting clients. There were no road shows, no whiz-bang marketing demos -- just this: Jeff Epstein was open for business for those with $1 billion–plus."

and

"From the get-go, his business was successful. But the conditions for investing with Epstein were steep: He would take total control of the billion dollars, charge a flat fee, and assume power of attorney to do whatever he thought was necessary to advance his client's financial cause. And he remained true to the $1 billion entry fee. According to people who know him, if you were worth $700 million and felt the need for the services of Epstein and Co., you would receive a not-so-polite no-thank-you from Epstein.

Yet according to Forbes:

In 1982 there were 13 billionaires; in 1983 15; in 1984 12; in 1985 13;

So in the first 4 years of Epstein and Co. there were only a dozen or so American billionaires qualifying for his services. The notion that a significant percentage were pedophiles and also came in to contact with Epstein is, well, ludicrous.

Even if one lowers the bar to extremely wealthy individuals who have a couple of hundred million in liquid assets kicking around, the number who were both pedos and acquaintances of Epstein would be exceedingly small and unlikely to account for Epstein's wealth.

lysias , Jul 13 2019 20:27 utc | 43
If the stories about the CIA's participation in the drug trade are correct, they have essentially unlimited sums of money to throw around.

Then there's their association with Wall Street and the Federal Reserve, which prints all the dollars.

Sorghum , Jul 13 2019 20:31 utc | 44
This makes me wonder if this isn't part of the reason Trump refuses to release his tax returns. Having investments with Epstein would be hard to explain away for the non-cult members.

To me, this seems like the 2 sides who are fighting for control of DC have both invoked their nuclear options and now both sides are fighting to control the narrative so that it smears their opponents more than them. I say that because this happened from 2 different directions. You had the Cernovich lawsuit about unsealing and the sudden rush to do something in NY.

les7 , Jul 13 2019 20:33 utc | 45
Part off the bigger question around this is the timing... why now?

IMO Distraction.

With Barr in motion the intelligence apparatus appears to be uniting and willing to sacrifice one of it's own- Epstein- with implicit ties to trump & co, in order to send the message that if Barr is unleashed (threatening FBI, CIA etc) the intelligence guys will unleash Epstein and take out the politicians on both sides of the aisle.

The political scandal of intelligence documented pedophilia will utterly bury and trivialize their Russiagate misdemeanors, will rebuild trust in them to hold politicians accountable and functionally be a coup against US political leadership

bjd , Jul 13 2019 20:34 utc | 46
I heard the daughter of James Comey is the DA there in the SDNY.
sarz , Jul 13 2019 20:39 utc | 47
Here is my speculation about what's behind the arrest of Epstein:

Epstein's arrest : Rothschild vs Trump http://www.twf.org/News/Y2019/0711-TrumpRothschild.html

Please read the final version, linked to beneath the body of the article. The link says UPDATED PDF

Bernhard's views on the position of Iran with respect to US aggression are a critical part of my argument.

Hoarsewhisperer , Jul 13 2019 20:42 utc | 48
This case is such a dog's breakfast of unconfirmed rumours and innuendo that I'd like to see some actual evidence that Epstein is a pedophile. Quantian's theory is quaint but implausible. Imo, a career based on blackmailing one billionaire would be hazardous but a career based on blackmailing many billionaires would be virtual suicide.

There are lurid rumours about Epstein's perversions such as kidnapping and rape. But logic suggests that if Epstein's Honey Pot Kingdom was based on kidnap victims then it would have been necessary to kill some of them to shut them up. I think I'll just wait for the result of his trial, if any.

...

It's incidentally funny that Michael Wolff wrote an Epstein white-wash article which wasn't published due to fact-checking flaws. I'd say his Fire And Fury smear-campaign book on Trump should have been spiked because of all the rumours and asinine drivel in it.

lysias , Jul 13 2019 20:53 utc | 51
Plenty of details about Epstein's pedophilic misdeeds in "Filthy Rich" by James Patterson, which appears largely to be based on testimony by the victims.
karlof1 , Jul 13 2019 21:09 utc | 52
somebody @29--

I've been reading Techno_Fog's Twitter for almost 2 years now as he's a dogged follower of many criminal cases beyond the Russiagate Hoax involving US DoJ. I just spent quite awhile scrolling through his tweets and retweets (searching twitter is very difficult beyond the first page) to get to your request . As you see, it's a tweet from May 2018, and note who its paired with: Mike Cernovich!

I currently don't have the time to continue scrolling through tweets to provide further evidence of linkage between Mueller and Epstein, sorry. I do suggest taking more than a cursory look at the material Techno_Fog posts as it unveils numerous cases of DoJ illegality going back to Enron.

His current focus is on the Flynn case, although he clearly follows others, including Epstein. I recall providing some basic info about Techno_Fog back when I first happened upon his Twitter but few seem to have added him to their reading list.

IMO, he's an Old-school Conservative fighting for Justice and against Injustice--particularly that perpetrated by the Federal Government. Here's the last one I'll post ; what's interesting is the thread as it implies that Cernovich jumped in well after the initial suit was filed by Dershowitz along with various assessments of Cernovich's character.

pantaraxia , Jul 13 2019 21:13 utc | 54
Vicky Ward, who wrote the 2003 Vanity Fair piece on Epstein (with his sex proclivities edited out of the story) had an interview with Chris Hayes (MSNBC) a couple of nights ago. From the transcript:


... he (epstein) gave a deposition and in a different suit in the - I think late 1980s saying that really what he was doing – and he lived by the way, in a quite a humble apartment back then, was running a round recovering stolen money for the government and for private clients.

And the interesting thing about that is if you know how to recover stolen money, you also know how to hide money. And the reason I mentioned that is that what I did discover is that before Les Wexner his mentor who I went to meet within jail at the time, the man called Steve Hoffenberg was serving a 20-year jail sentence for what was then the biggest Ponzi scheme in American history.

The Ponzi scheme ran from 1988 to 1993. The money, some $475 million, was never recovered.

So a number of years after Epstein launched his vaunted 'golden goose' company, he was living in 'a quite humble apartment' and if his deposition is to be believed 'recovering stolen money for the government and for private clients'. Not quite the success story we were led to believe. It also seems to indicate his wealth was acquired after the 'late 80s deposition' as 'humble apartment' and 'Epstein' seems like a contradiction in terms.

Arioch , Jul 13 2019 21:13 utc | 55
> blackmailing many billionaires would be virtual suicide.

> Why would he risk a return to the US at this time, shortly after a court rules that his court record be unsealed? Why would he keep highly incriminating evidence in his home?

Hmmm... WHAT IF....

Mere speculation, but what if there came a threat to Epstein so real, that he now considers American jail to be his safe haven? Especially if that would be the same kind of "jail" that he enjoyed under his "sweet deal" sentence? Blackmailing billionaires is not the only job that can lead you to grave. Sometimes being witness in the know is enough to it

Just speculatinf.

dh , Jul 13 2019 21:22 utc | 56
@55 So if he likes jail so much why is he trying to get bail? Keep the theories coming guys. Personally I'll wait for the photographs and videos.
bjd , Jul 13 2019 21:23 utc | 57
Here's what I was referring to in (46): Daughter of ex-FBI director Comey is prosecutor in Epstein case .
karlof1 , Jul 13 2019 21:27 utc | 58
I'm reposting the following in bold so maybe most will read it and understand what it means:

There's a big problem with people thinking this just suddenly happened now when the lawsuit to unseal Epstein's trial and plea agreement was filed on 27 JAN 2017 just after Trump became POTUS.

Cernovich filed his appeal to unseal @ 6 MAR 2019. There was no need to gather any further evidence as plenty was on hand at DoJ to arrest Epstein although an additional complaint was filed.

Why Epstein chose to return to USA is an outstanding question. Also, his sudden wealth occurred at a time when CIA was fueling the Crack Epidemic, was awash in drug money and needed as many ways to launder it as possible. Some may have seen the film Less Than Zero ; Epstein strikes me as being able to figure out a way to avoid becoming the victim in that film by turning the outcome on its head.

Arioch , Jul 13 2019 21:39 utc | 59
@56 under this speculation, because mansion in USA is better than jail in USA, but both are better than grave outside USA.

Remember, there were speculations that both Skrypal and Berezovski negotiated their return to Russia short before they were delt with. So, in such a thought line, Epstein got the lesson and decided to return first, negotiate later

pantaraxia , Jul 13 2019 21:40 utc | 60
Posted by: lysias | Jul 13 2019 19:00 utc | 22

"Any connection between this Mega Group and the Mega superspy that Israeli/Jewish messages said they only contacted on supremely important matters?"

Israel Shamir and others believe it to be one and the same. In other words there was no superspy. It was an erroneous assumption based the conversation.

Shamir: The megabucks call themselves 'Mega group'. This name appeared in the media a couple of years ago, as a name for the secret Israeli mole in the upper reaches of the US establishment. It came up in an overheard phone conversation, later denied by the Israeli embassy in Washington, DC. The newshounds and spook watchers got it wrong. 'Mega' was not an agent, Mega was the boss."

Lochearn , Jul 13 2019 21:40 utc | 61
@ 31 Jackrabbit

Yes, it is the biggest issue for Israel; it is an obsession. If only the ISIS Caliphate had worked as planned and the Jihadists had moved on to Lebanon to smash Hezbollah after gaining control of Iraq and Syria. Maybe the plan was for the Jihadists to take on Iran after that.

It hadn't occurred to me to link Iran and Epstein in a move to get at Trump. I have seen photos of the two looking like good buddies. Epstein's climb up the greasy pole was too easy for a lazy pervert. But he was of high value as a honey trap maestro.

In that other sex scandal case, namely the Harvey Weinstein one, he had produced a film called "Miral" which was considered, according the American Jewish Committee, to have "portrayed Israel in a very negative light." It was back in 2011 but these things take time!

Except when they don't. After the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission found Israel guilty of war crimes in Nov, 2013, the Malaysian MH370 just happened to disappear without trace in March, 2014. Then a few months later we had the Malaysian MH17 shot down over Ukraine.

Richard Steven Hack , Jul 13 2019 21:47 utc | 62
Powerful people who have blackmail problems do one of two things: 1) they hire a hit man to make the problem go away by forcing the guy to give up the blackmail material before wasting him, or 2) they go to other powerful people who are not under the thumb of the blackmailer and get them to get the guy to stop (which may or may not involve wasting him as well.)

So I don't see this as a simple case of blackmail for profit. It's a nice scam, and perhaps that was also involved. But sooner or later - especially with Maxwell's involvement - Israel's Mossad and other intelligence agencies would see this as the perfect way to get dirt on tons of people in the US elites.

So my guess is it's all one and the same.

dh , Jul 13 2019 21:50 utc | 63
@59 Well he'll need a new door on his New York mansion. The cops smashed the old one.
Jen , Jul 13 2019 21:51 utc | 64
Quantian's theory looks neat and elegant, as would be expected of someone who studies mathematics, but it does lead MoA barflies (a few of whom have done so) to ask how Epstein could have got his scheme started in the first place, even given that he'd worked for Bear Stevens in the past and already had a tiny financial pile from which to launch his blackmailing scheme. Epstein would not have been the only person spruiking a very exclusive boutique hedge fund in the early 1980s, when he first started it and when there were few billionaires in the US and beyond.

Plus such a scheme would need a personality with considerable, er, balls to carry it off - unless Epstein had support from other people. Intelligence and security agencies could have given him that support indirectly through front organizations or representatives.

There is also the issue of what Epstein was doing with all the pictures collected over the decades - he surely wasn't stashing them away in digital photo albums just to look over once in a while or to share with, er, friends. They had to have more active, ongoing value than merely an archival purpose for a future one-off blackmailing proposition, especially for someone whose main motivation in life is to continuously make money.

Jackrabbit , Jul 13 2019 21:57 utc | 65
karlof1 @58

Again, I would urge you to read the link @21 ("Why did Jeffrey Epstein fly back to US?").

AFAICT the lawsuit to unseal and the ruling for unsealing is irrelevant to what is happening now. In fact, the ruling was not necessarily very damaging to Epstein (he's already a known sex offender) - the vast majority of the material remains under seal.

The conviction in 2008 settled the matter up to then. AFAICT that can not be re-opened.

A new case was started (in 2013, I think) but was SETTLED. The unsealing motions are only related to this 2013 case. Unsealing was denied by a lower court but a LIMITED unsealing was approved on appeal (recently) which ONLY unseals "summary judgments" in the case. Apparently that's a small amount of material compared to the whole. Such judgments are essentially fact-based and probably not very controversial. Nevertheless, there will still be some redaction and that process could take weeks or months.

What appears to have happened here, is that there was an entirely NEW complaint that prompted a searching of Epstein's NYC home, which turned up child sex material.

Instead of focusing on the long-standing request to unseal or the (apparent) failure to avoid arrest by returning; we should be questioning why Epstein would put himself in jeopardy by fooling around with young girls in USA and keeping evidence at a home in USA.

It seems very convenient that a new allegation is made and Epstein had evidence in his NYC home. If not for that, he would be free to roam the world with his millions, doing whatever he pleases. Is Epstein that dumb/sick that he would put himself at such risk? Or, could it be that someone wants this song bird in jail, ready willing and able to sing?

Lochearn , Jul 13 2019 21:58 utc | 66
@ 58 karlof1

Thanks for a very informative comment. The CNN narrative caught my attention for some reason:

The Miami Herald reported in 2018 that it had identified about 80 women who say they were molested or sexually abused by Epstein between 2001 and 2006. The newspaper's continued reporting on the case, including articles about Epstein's 2008 plea deal that kept him from being prosecuted for federal crimes, caught the attention of federal prosecutors in New York who brought the new charges against him.

librul , Jul 13 2019 22:11 utc | 67
@Posted by: Stumpy | Jul 13 2019 18:45 utc | 15
Given the reach of both the Epstein case and the Mueller investigation, the delay in Mueller's appearance on Capitol Hill might be to clear the public palate of one scandal in order to not steal thunder from another, or some re-orchestration of who owes whom given the threat of pending revelations. Just a thought.

A decent theory but pretty sure there is a clearer explanation for the Mueller delay. Mueller will show contempt for the court if during his testimony he claims once again that the Russian Government was behind the Facebook ads "used to influence our 2016 election".

Mueller and the Democrats are gobfkd. Half of Russiagate was sunk by a judge just last week. Only the supposed hacking of servers by the Russians remains usable in Russiagate.

So what kind of testimony can Mueller give to the salivating Democrats now that the Facebook ad claims are an embarrassment to Mueller (AND the MSM)(AND the Democrats)?

A US District court judge has dealt a major blow to special counsel Robert Mueller's theory that the Kremlin engaged in "sweeping and systematic" meddling in the 2016 US election.

Judge Dabney L. Friedrich ruled this week that the Special Counsel's indictment of a Russian troll farm "does not link the defendants to the Russian government," and "alleges only private conduct by private actors."
...
Judge Friedrich writes "It is significant and prejudicial that the government itself drew a link between these defendants and the Russian government," adding "In short, the Court concludes that the government violated Rule 57.7 by making or authorizing the release of public statements that linked the defendants' alleged activities to the Russian government..."

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-11/judge-shreds-mueller-evidence-kremlin-meddling

Do not be surprised if the Mueller testimony is postponed indefinitely. The only other option is for Mueller to withdraw the law suit against the Russians, and **that** would be amazing to even think about!

Just Me , Jul 13 2019 22:20 utc | 68
Various mentions of "Wag the Dog" up there. The real one to me was using the Iraq war to cover up Tony Blair's affair with Wendi Deng. We need a paternity test on Chloe, and maybe Grace also. Ooo, boy! That will topple Big Ben!
librul , Jul 13 2019 22:20 utc | 69
@Posted by: librul | Jul 13 2019 22:11 utc | 67

For further reading see this link:

https://consortiumnews.com/2019/07/12/concord-management-and-the-end-of-russiagate/

alaric , Jul 13 2019 22:22 utc | 70
Quantian's theory has some rather large holes:

1) Where did Epstein get money to set this up?
2) Where are the videos of the perps?
3) You really think you can blackmail such powerful people without blow back or death?
4) Epstein is connected to some vile zionists with Mossad ties (Wexner, Bronfman, Maxwell, etc.)
5) The weird temple?
6) Too many levels of gov stepped in to help Epstein. That suggests high level protection. Mueller, Acosta and Ken Star did not step in to protect Bill Clinton's good name.
7) This was an entrapment scheme of some of the most powerful and influential politicians around. The legacy media is completely ignoring this facet of the case.

Epstein was (is) likely working for Jewish billionaires who happen to be rabid Zionists. There was likely support from Mossad.

the pessimist , Jul 13 2019 22:22 utc | 71
Acosta's breezy dismisal of his handling of the Epstein case, with the excuse that he was advised to back off, during his background check suggests that he believed that there wouldn't be any repercussions because higher authority was at work which would protect him as well. At least that is how I see it. This is not compatible with an explanation of 'simple blackmail'. The people involved weren't just rich, but politically powerful.

So is his island in the British or US VI? There are rumored to be secrets stored there in a room with a special safe. Wonder if a search warrant has been served there...

dltravers , Jul 13 2019 22:27 utc | 72
Jackrabbit @ 31

It is not that I love Trump but we must look at the plausible turns of events whether he be friend or foe.

It is interesting that Trump was one of the first one's invited into the Manhattan apartment given to Epstein in 2002. Trump was always floating in those party circles and I suspect they were using each other for inside information as the Quantian thesis speculates. As word got out in those largely democrat NY social circles I am sure it was like drawing flies to shit. The background of the giver was posted by others and that speaks for itself.

Trumps tightness with him ended after that. Trump is Israel's boy so Epstein is not going to out him and I do not think there is anything to out anyway. In the 80's and 90's Trump was a straight arrow party follower and chaser of women not little girls. He did not drink. Bunches of that crowd were snorting coke but he was high on business. He loved sex, money, and business. That was his drug.

The attorney of one of the lead girls that has been suing Epstein for a long time says Trump was the only one that helped him. Trump helped him contact all the people that he wanted to subpoena and he dropped Trump's subpoena as he provided all the information he needed voluntarily.

Another aspect is that the reason why Acosta took the case. The District Attorney for that county in Florida refused to take the case. He was eager until the police chief turned it over to him and he found out it was Epstein. The police chief begged the FBI to get involved as the DA refused an open and shut case. The District Attorney is purported to be in articles a big time Democrat and an ADL awardee.

Trump's DOJ is retaking the case. Where are the heavily democrat NY DA's in this? Trying to get Trump and ignoring Epstein. They just quietly dropped another canard case against him. Again the State DA does nothing and heavily supports one side. This shit went on for decades in NY high echelon party circuits and NYPD intelligence units never got a whiff of it? Really? Does anyone really believe this shit could happen and go down quietly for decades?

Clinton could be the sacrificial fall guy to close up this case and put it to bed. I do not expect much out of a Republican DOJ other than to cover its friends asses. Either way I expect the Democrats to take the bigger hit.

There is way to much smoke for it not to he an intelligence operation supported by the big ones. There are way to may power players involved for a deal not to be made. That deal could be for the next four years after 2020.

Lochearn , Jul 13 2019 22:32 utc | 73
The Jeffrey Epstein case opens up a huge can of worms that is only just beginning to unravel. It has the potential to set Wall Street against Israel, if anyone thought that was possible. He was involved with jailed junk bond king Michael Milken in the 1980s where he met Leon Black of Apollo Management, a private equity mafia scam boss, who may be about to fall due to close association with Epstein.
somebody , Jul 13 2019 22:49 utc | 74
Epstein got his money from a Ponzi scheme
While the financial world has been puzzling over the question for years, it is really not that complicated, according to Steven Jude Hoffenberg, Epstein's former mentor. Epstein used fraudulently gotten funds as seed money, he told Quartz.... In 1997, Hoffenberg -- the head of bill-collection firm Towers Financial -- was sentenced to 20 years in jail for running one of the biggest Ponzi schemes in US history. Thousands of investors were bilked of more than $450 million.

Hoffenberg now tells Quartz that Epstein was deeply involved in the fraud. Epstein was never charged in the case, but he was "totally in the mix," Hoffenberg said. He added that Epstein helped him set up the Ponzi scheme.

"He was my colleague daily, seven days a week," Hoffenberg added.

Hoffenberg said Epstein's connection to the crime didn't come up at the time because he pled guilty. "When you plead guilty you don't go in for elaborate discovery."

psychohistorian , Jul 13 2019 22:57 utc | 75
I wrote a comment in response to another at the end of the last Epstein thread that I am going to share here as well. I will also provide a link to the song at the end

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@ Richard (S)teven Hack who wrote
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What happens to Israel if it's proven that Epstein was running a honey pot operation involving pedophiles for the benefit of Mossad blackmail of the most powerful people - including Presidents - in the US and elsewhere?
"
If you replace Israel with the unknown those that own global private finance I would agree 100% and it is why

this is happening now.......Go listen to the jaunty blues song by James Taylor titled "Steamroller Blues" and think of China singing that song to the West.......I do

To Grieved and karlof1
I am a butterfly flapping its wings madly in tune to the song mentioned above.

"James Taylor on YouTube with Steamroller Blues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfzMLRzH2yw

somebody , Jul 13 2019 23:00 utc | 76
Epstein Flourished as He Forged Bond With Retail Billionaire
Mr. Morosky, the executive who worked for Mr. Wexner, says he was perplexed by his boss's relationship with Mr. Epstein. Mr. Wexner told him that Mr. Epstein could "introduce him to important people," Mr. Morosky recalls.
Lochearn , Jul 13 2019 23:05 utc | 77
@ psychohistorian

Really enjoyed that, specially the pianist. Send us more!

Lozion , Jul 13 2019 23:05 utc | 78
@47 sarz. One question that comes to mind reading your essay is why the crypto game?
NY (and the US by extension) is shock full of the chosen ones & dual-citizenship Israelis so why pretend?
Alaric , Jul 13 2019 23:11 utc | 79
People don't generally continue to hang out with someone who is blackmailing them. Epstein maintained relationships for almost two decades with his clients. They only distanced themselves after the bust and probably not even then.

Those VIP people run in the same circles. If Epstein was really black mailing them then the entire social circle would have known, making his scam impossible.

Epstein provided VIPs with a service and they trusted and protect him to this day. They even rehabilitated him after his jail time. That's not how people treat blackmailers. If anything investment in his fund paid for access to said service. The VIPs probably found out about the videos and some the age of the girls after his indictment. The videos were an insurance policy for epstein's backers (mossad?).

Busting Epstein now is a crude way of letting sitting politicians know Epstein (Mossad, AIPAC) have them by the balls. And said organizations want war with iran.

Rob , Jul 13 2019 23:11 utc | 80
This sort of wild speculation based on scant, if any, evidence, is not what I expect to find on MoA. How about everyone (including b) stepping back and waiting for facts to emerge?
Jackrabbit , Jul 13 2019 23:11 utc | 81
dltravers @72

Yes. It's unclear if Trump was ever involved with under-age women. It doesn't really seem like Trump has such a proclivity.

But that will hardly matter if Epstein chooses to name him in a plea deal. The press will drag Trump through the mud. They will note that Trump was known to have been associated with Epstein and Trump ran the Miss America Contest (featuring young, but not under-age women) for many years.

And that is the point I was making @31. Epstein is a threat to Trump - even if Trump happens to be completely innocent. One must ask: who might benefit? and why now? Those questions naturally lead to Israel's desire for USA to eliminate it's Iran problem.

I imaging that Israeli leaders are fed up with USA cautiousness. Obama didn't bomb Syria in 2013, and Trump didn't attack Iran after Iran downed the drone a few weeks ago.

Maybe CIA will eliminate Epstein in jail so that Trump and others are not blackmailed into starting a war? Or maybe Mossad will eliminate Epstein because Trump demands to be free of blackmail potential before he starts the war they want?

Sasha , Jul 13 2019 23:19 utc | 82
As some here, I was also wondering about the opportunity of reviving this case, when everybody knows that no rich person in the US ends in jail, and thus, Epstein will go again scot free.

I think that this is a great distractor to keep the US populace busy while other events are in the cooking. But which events those could be....I was thinking that the reviving of this case could well lead to the definitive implosion of the US political system, and after seeing the strong opposition this current administration has managed to build in its first mandate, thye are most probably sure thye would never win the elections again, all the more when Trump bases are getting nothing from electoral promises...

What if the demolition of the US parliamentary system is needed to cop with coming events and the reviving of this case comes to help on this, so as to facilitate, for example, the take over by the military in an escenario of chaos, like the resulting of the mother of all crisis?

Wall Street reaches record highs, the fall is imminent

The markets are euphoric. Wall Street reaches record highs, driven upwards, in particular, by low interest rates. This week, for the first time in its history, the Standard and Poor's index, the reference for investors, has exceeded 3,000 points. The Dow Jones is also at the highest level.

It is the "paradox of tranquility." Everything seems to be going well when investors take more and more risks and, therefore, more speculative securities develop until a disturbance of growth or interest rates causes a change and, immediately, a financial crisis.

The markets seem more and more disconnected from a growth that slides on the bottom of the commercial war. The real economy is stagnant. In the United States, growth is not expected to reach 2.5 percent next year. The slowdown is even more pronounced in Europe. Even China is lagging behind.

But stock exchanges are more interested in interest rates than in real growth. Interest rates will fall further, as the Central Bank of the United States will announce a cut in interest rates during the next week.

If the central banks, both in the United States and in Europe, keep interest rates low, it is because of the pressure of the speculators, because if the rates rise they could cause a collapse.

Low interest rates encourage speculators to borrow. In 10 years the global debt of companies, states and families has increased by 50 percent. If we take the public debt of all the countries of the G20, the figure of 135,000 million dollars is reached, a huge bubble.

The capitalist crisis reduces interest rates to maintain the illusion of growth and that reduction is the fuel of a new crisis, even greater.

Curtis , Jul 13 2019 23:28 utc | 83
lysias 51
That's the answer to
Hoarsewhisperer 48.

And there are lots of details in the Miami Herald investigation. Some of it reads like child porn with girls 14+ giving details of the inside of the West Palm Beach mansion as well as his "body parts."

A coworker told me about being on a jury that convicted a couple of abusing their children. The young women had to testify with details which he said made jurors sick.

psychohistorian , Jul 13 2019 23:35 utc | 84
@ Alaric who wrote
"
Busting Epstein now is a crude way of letting sitting politicians know Epstein (Mossad, AIPAC) have them by the balls. And said organizations want war with iran.
"
I am pleased to be reading more and more of this analysis but still assert we really don't know who owns global private finance and so attributing these actions to those that you did is questionable in my understanding.....the elite WANT you to focus your ire on people rather than structure so they can deflect the misdirected passion.
Sorghum , Jul 13 2019 23:36 utc | 85
I agree that there is far too much circumstantial evidence for Epstein to not have had powerful, violent if need-be, backers (ie intelligence agencies). It's trivial to eliminate an individual who tries to blackmail the rich and/or powerful so he had to have some form of state sanctioned protection.

What so many who use Trump volunteering information as his proof of innocence forget, is that he has a pathological inability to STFU. Of course he'd talk to the prosecutor to control the narrative if nothing else. Being willing to talk to anyone is his political schtick, too. It's his "Art of the Deal".

What nobody can explain is why or how Acosta got a plum Cabinet position if there was no Epstein connection. Sure seems like yet another "crazy" coincidence.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is an Israeli attempt to force Trump's hand against Iran.

ben , Jul 13 2019 23:41 utc | 86
Yep, just another pimp for the rich and connected. Just another diversion for the uber-wealthy to engage in.

Another triumphant moment for Capitalism untethered by morals or justice.

Anyone who thinks this will lead to anything resembling justice is a bit delusional.

RayB , Jul 13 2019 23:47 utc | 87
"It does not require any additional conspiracy theory about Mossad/Mafia/CIA involvement. But it also doesn't exclude that there is some." NOT or SOME ya think? So are you seriously suggesting that it's possible that MI6, Mossad and the CIA turned a blind eye and just stood by idle while a Royalty, PM of Israel, POTUS and Secretary of State, dignitaries and famous Academics got themselves entangled in a billionaire pedophiles blackmail web? "Conspiracy theory's" aside, ya think that even after PA Acosta admitted that he was forced to take his hands off and stand down and let Epstein of the hook because he was their "intelligence Asset"?
Sorghum , Jul 13 2019 23:48 utc | 88
Excellent points alaric @79

JR @ 81
There is evidence Trump likes young girls. He even bragged about walking in on contestants in pageants he owned. He owned Miss Teen USA as well as Miss USA and Miss Universe. He bragged about using his position to see contestants naked in the latter 2. That takes a certain type of individual.

Sorghum , Jul 13 2019 23:51 utc | 89
I should have added that like most of the dirty parts of Trump, there is lots of smoke so it's hard to believe there isn't some fire somewhere.
Bemildred , Jul 13 2019 23:51 utc | 90
Why was Dershowitz involved in the 2017 suit to get the Epstein deal partially unsealed? For some sort of selective release of information for what? It would not seem to be in Dershowitz interest to bring all that up again, he appearing to be one of the protected parties. It is noticeable that he felt compelled to come out with a statement now.

MSM seems to be making hay with the story too. Not suppressing it. Not all following the same script (yet at least).

Jackrabbit , Jul 13 2019 23:57 utc | 91
It seems that I may have been wrong about a new allegation. I might have confused new victims coming forward with "new allegations" if past conduct to mean a recent offence.

SDNY seems to be prosecuting for activity that occurred during the same time period as covered by the non-prosecution agreement.

Explained here .

Acosta's nomination by Trump is very suspicious. Will Acosta be disbarred?

uncle tungsten , Jul 14 2019 0:01 utc | 92
Thank you Jackrabbit #7, I do appreciate your cold water wake up critical analysis and commentary. I accept that the simple analysis of what Epstein was doing was correct, but only in part. Epstein was building capital and potential in many resources through the investment front: he could sell his data to any bidder.

The simplistic front made him wealthy for sure but the combination gave him power and access that $ wealth could not reach.

Many writers seem reluctant to go near any semitic discourse. The piece I linked to by Elizabeth Voss in Consortium news, and the WSWS piece are examples. They desperately avoid writing an multi dimensional storyline that might enrage the ADL.

frances , Jul 14 2019 0:04 utc | 93
"...This was an entrapment scheme of some of the most powerful and influential politicians around. The legacy media is completely ignoring this facet of the case.
Epstein was (is) likely working for Jewish billionaires who happen to be rabid zionists. There was likely support from Mossad."
Posted by: alaric | Jul 13 2019 22:22 utc | 70

I agree completely, this answers why he was able to blackmail so many for so long and live.
I think he was brought back now, and a new case started, to put pressure on said politicians to get them behind a war on Iran.

A very nasty war; probably with a bunker buster swarm leveling the country and probably to start soon, my guess is in August.

For if Trump can continue to resist those pressuring him and gets reelected without Adelson and co's support, it is the end of Israel's dreams of middle east conquest for 4 years at least. Can't have that.

JasonT , Jul 14 2019 0:07 utc | 94
The Epstein matter is really quite simple.

The oligarchy has thoroughly defeated the peasants in the grasp for power. The oligarchy is now fighting among themselves to see who will be king.

Epstein is a weapon being used by one faction of the oligarchy to dispossess another faction of an important tool, to wit - Donald Trump, so that the one faction can either co-opt this important tool or insert their own important tool into the White House to gain control over the U.S. military. After all, neither faction of the oligarchy can be successful at naming the king if they do not have control over the world's most destructive military.

karlof1 , Jul 14 2019 0:20 utc | 95
JR @65--

Ah yes, my old buddies (from The Oil Drum days) at The Automatic Earth still produce good work. The only logical reason IMO for Epstein to return right on the heels of the unsealing is to show he's worthy of being allowed to post bail, and do another plea bargain so he still has some life to live and enjoy the riches he's accumulated. Of course, maybe he was ordered so his case pushes that of George Nader under the rug ("Since the arrest of George Nader on June 3 in New York relating to child porn offences – and his story being unearthed by investigative journalists – we are witnessing a wising up of Trump.) provided Epstein has genuine Intel links.

It would be nice to know this file's contents :

"There's more - what evidence did the FBI/DOJ have on Epstein?

"An FBI file entitled 'Summary of Sexual Activity,' containing an analysis of victim-specific information chart showing phone calls, travel, and grand jury evidence."

On that thread, there's speculation that then DCI Hayes was involved, may have even told everyone what to do.

Bemildred , Jul 14 2019 0:24 utc | 96
frances @93 & JasonT @94: The problem is Trump doesn't look like one of the most likely targets, and he is not blabbering uncontrollably about it now. It seems unlikely to work. Of course these are Neocons and Zionists involved so that doesn't necessarily matter. And he is an actor. But nevertheless, Barr seems totally un-upset by all this noise too. Go for it boys. If it's an attempt to get Trump, he seems very un-Trump-like in his attitude towards it, amused not worried or blathering on twitter. If Epstein is really in the middle of a war among the elites, I expect we will see more evidence of it soon,
karlof1 , Jul 14 2019 0:47 utc | 97
Bemildred @90--

As I noted when I went to find Dershowitz's explanation for his filing, he ceased using his Twitter after 5 July, the day prior to Epstein's return and arrest. His last Facebook entry is from 26 FEB 2019, and he seems to have mostly disappeared from news stories--certainly nothing within the past 48 hrs. He's 80, so his health is telling him something, perhaps.

Ninel , Jul 14 2019 0:50 utc | 98
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/07/13/epst-j13.html
colin , Jul 14 2019 0:52 utc | 99
jeff epstein loan wolf confidence trickster
ok dokey b
bbb b
sure thing mr mossadick

Epstein Stories You Won't Find in the News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc-uysS6Tlw

uncle tungsten , Jul 14 2019 0:52 utc | 100
Thank you psychohistorian #84

'we really don't know who owns global finance"

Take a read of GIANTS by Peter Phillips. See Michael Hudson too.

The main thing missing is a photograph of each of the board members of each of the corporations listed.

There has been a lot of discussion on various threads as to who the big players are.

[Jul 14, 2019] blackmailing 'influential' individuals is a simple modus operandi used by the 'government' of 'israel', for decades, in order to push its agenda and control those who 'support' it

Notable quotes:
"... To me, it starts with Wexner, and goes through the Mega Group. They were/are powerful deep interests out to help themselves and their pet cause Israel. Powerful non-state actors who could benefit Israel while still maintaining an arm's length relationship. Perhaps Bush wasn't the only state leader surprised on 9/11. It would seem a safe bet that Larry Silverstein moves in the same socioeconomic circles as the Mega Group. ..."
"... I find this suspiciously implausible. After the first blackmail attempt no one would visit him again and he'd be dead. There are proven/known repeats. This fact kills the blackmail facade. ..."
Jul 14, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

opposition_X , Jul 14 2019 4:00 utc | 118

Epstein's Mossad connection is becoming more clear - it's an 'open secret' that blackmailing 'influential' individuals is a simple modus operandi used by the 'government' of 'israel', for decades, in order to push its agenda and control those who 'support' it. It's also an 'open secret' that israel and a number of its 'citizens' are the most active of all states in the 'white slave trade' - as well as the black market for human organs.

Of course, this won't be noted in the west's controlled media - but it's discussed quite frequently in the alternative media around the world. Americans are ignorant of these facts, so it's not really surprising that the epstein operation appears shocking to the average person. It's actually par for the course in the u.s. since the late 50s-early 60s - epstein is only one of many involved with this type of 'nwo' operation of control.


imo , Jul 14 2019 4:01 utc | 119

Posted by: pierrep | Jul 13 2019 18:41 utc | 12
"Please don't forget that many of the so called blackmailed subjects certainly had access to INSIDE INFORMATION that they could have shared and thus much higher profits....."
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Agreed, safe insider 'win-win' trading (until it blows up).

The 'b' scenario is indeed very plausible, but it does not need to necessarily rely on blackmail. These rapacious predatory fiat money 'elites' are quite capable of scoring a bit of fluff anytime they want it. Just ask the doorman and slip a $100 note etc.

What they could equally have desired was an 'in' on a little exclusive Jewish-run "Hellfire" club which, along with mutual investment opportunities (as the ticket in), simply made Jeffrey Epstein a convenient host and 'Pimp/Madam' for quality kiddy fluff.

For these types it is more about psychic power and moral corruption than sex per se. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellfire_Club

Doing all this via the likes of Epstein is simply a form of financial and moral'off shoring.'

Lastly, why now? Another mass distraction campaign no doubt. And as odious as the Epstein (and Clinton) types are I don't necessarily automatically buy into the 'evil' mass hysteria meme. Sure, if 16 is the age of consent then younger than that is a legal matter. But in other aspects, on a case-by-case basis, there are well mature 14-15 year olds biologically ready for sexual experiences. At first glance I thought the 'pedo' label was referring to 7-10 year olds like the Catholic priest variety etc. Not so, it seems. Or have I missed something? And was it only young females? Are none of these billionaire class homosexual? Or was Epstein homophobic and only interested in a privileged hetero niche market?

dltravers , Jul 14 2019 4:14 utc | 120
An excellent article here that mentions Quantian ...

Given this puzzling set of data points

More fuel for the fire, more pieces of the puzzle.

alaric , Jul 14 2019 4:25 utc | 121
Here is another thought. This case may authentically be resurfacing because of the work of Julie K Brown at the Miami Herald and said pubs court victory to unseal court documents related to Virginia Guiffre's suit of Epstein.

This was not sought after by the powers that be and the establishment is on the defensive so they're trying to redirect this into a case about Trump, notably while ignoring a lot of facts.

Maybe that's why this case has been assigned to SDNY which is full of democrats and even Comey's daughter...maybe.

In any case i doubt much will come of it. Epstein's victims might get a little more justice but not much and the higher ups will be protected.....except trump but i doubt they have much on him.

I don't believe the lone blackmailer operation but more information will emerge and we can all reassess. What is valuable is that this case will further erode the credibility of the political, moneyed and media classes (often one if the same).

Roy G , Jul 14 2019 4:57 utc | 123
The problem with this theory is that it posits an improbably large and ongoing pay off. Mutual self interest is much stronger in the long run. Do you really believe that Les Wexner and his security team are going to allow some nobody like Epstein to blackmail them?

To me, it starts with Wexner, and goes through the Mega Group. They were/are powerful deep interests out to help themselves and their pet cause Israel. Powerful non-state actors who could benefit Israel while still maintaining an arm's length relationship. Perhaps Bush wasn't the only state leader surprised on 9/11. It would seem a safe bet that Larry Silverstein moves in the same socioeconomic circles as the Mega Group.

RayB , Jul 14 2019 6:42 utc | 125
'Explosive': Was Epstein an 'intelligence' asset? -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaN1MXfJmXs
sarz , Jul 14 2019 7:06 utc | 126
Lozion @78

... Look at Trump. Do you think he would have won the election if he campaigned as a Zionist promising to do all he could for big finance and Israel?

He ran as a heritage American promising to save his supposed fellows from their dire straits -- unemployment, heroin addiction, suicide, and being overrun by strange immigrants displacing them...

Look up Kevin MacDonald's research to understand how Jews look at the issue.

nJH , Jul 14 2019 7:11 utc | 128
I find this suspiciously implausible. After the first blackmail attempt no one would visit him again and he'd be dead. There are proven/known repeats. This fact kills the blackmail facade.

Have commentators touched too close to the truth on the previous thread? Terrible backtrack that was most assuredly planned by someone/people really out of touch with internet discussions.

[Jul 14, 2019] EXPLOSIVE- Acosta claimed Epstein 'belonged to intelligence,' report says - TheBlaze

Jul 14, 2019 | www.theblaze.com

According to investigative journalist Vickie Ward -- who has been covering the Jeffrey Epstein case since 2003 -- Alexander Acosta, the former U.S. attorney who cut Epstein a sweetheart plea deal back in 2007, did so because he had been told to "back off, that Epstein was above his pay grade."

"I was told Epstein 'belonged to intelligence' and to leave it alone," Acosta, who resigned as Secretary of Labor on Friday, reportedly claimed.

"The case is getting uglier and more weird the more we look into it," said Glenn Beck on Friday's radio program. "Back in 2007, the charges brought against [Epstein] were brutal. I want you to listen to this quote . 'The FBI and the U.S. Attorney's office determined that from 2001 to September 2007, Epstein had conspired to persuade minors to engage in prostitution, conspired to transport minors across state lines for the purpose of illicit sexual conduct, and recruited a minor across state lines to engage in a commercial sex act'."

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"Despite what appeared at the time to be a slam-dunk case, the government chose to offer Epstein a plea deal," Glenn continued. "They slapped him on the wrist with a lesser charge and serving minimal time. Now, not only did this deal get him off easy, but it also immunized him and his co-conspirators from prostitution."

Glenn noted Vicky Ward's most recent article in which she wrote of Acosta:

Epstein's name, I was told, had been raised by the Trump transition team when Alexander Acosta, the former U.S. attorney in Miami who'd infamously cut Epstein a non-prosecution plea deal back in 2007, was being interviewed for the job of labor secretary. The plea deal put a hard stop to a separate federal investigation of alleged sex crimes with minors and trafficking.

"Is the Epstein case going to cause a problem [for confirmation hearings]?" Acosta had been asked. Acosta had explained, breezily, apparently, that back in the day he'd had just one meeting on the Epstein case. He'd cut the non-prosecution deal with one of Epstein's attorneys because he had "been told" to back off, that Epstein was above his pay grade. "I was told Epstein 'belonged to intelligence' and to leave it alone," he told his interviewers in the Trump transition, who evidently thought that was a sufficient answer and went ahead and hired Acosta. (The Labor Department had no comment when asked about this.)

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[Jul 14, 2019] Federal prosecutors said Friday that accused sex-trafficker Jeffrey Epstein should stay locked up until trial because he's willing to use "intimidation and aggressive tactics" to tamper with witnesses

Notable quotes:
"... That Epstein would try and intimidate witnesses and victims is a central part of the argument made by prosecutors to keep him in jail until trial. ..."
Jul 14, 2019 | www.thedailybeast.com

Federal prosecutors said Friday that accused sex-trafficker Jeffrey Epstein should stay locked up until trial because he's willing to use "intimidation and aggressive tactics" to tamper with witnesses -- including recent payments totaling $350,000 in an effort to silence two associates who allegedly helped him.

"Epstein's efforts to influence witnesses continue to this day," the U.S. Attorney's Office said Friday evening in a court filing in response to the financier's request to be released on bail. A hearing before Judge Richard Berman is scheduled for Monday.

That Epstein would try and intimidate witnesses and victims is a central part of the argument made by prosecutors to keep him in jail until trial.

Prosecutors noted the payments were part of a pattern that stretched back to November 2018, when the Miami Herald started publishing its investigation of the pedophile billionaire.

Just two days after the stories began to appear Epstein "wired $100,000 from a trust account he controlled to an individual named as a possible co-conspirator" in the Florida non-prosecution agreement, the prosecutors wrote.

Three days later, they noted, he "wired $250,000 from the same trust account to another individual named as a possible co-conspirator" in the Florida agreement who is also identified an Epstein employee in the indictment.

read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-has-been-paying-off-alleged-accomplices-feds-say?ref=home

[Jul 13, 2019] Did Pedophile Jeffrey Epstein Work for Mossad by Philip Giraldi

Jul 13, 2019 | www.unz.com

The extent of Israeli spying directed against the United States is a huge story that is only rarely addressed in the mainstream media. The Jewish state regularly tops the list for ostensibly friendly countries that aggressively conduct espionage against the U.S. and Jewish American Jonathan Pollard, who was imprisoned in 1987 for spying for Israel, is now regarded as the most damaging spy in the history of the United States.

Last week I wrote about how Israeli spies operating more-or-less freely in the U.S. are rarely interfered with, much less arrested and prosecuted, because there is an unwillingness on the part of upper echelons of government to do so. I cited the case of Arnon Milchan, a billionaire Hollywood movie producer who had a secret life that included stealing restricted technology in the United States to enable development of Israel's nuclear weapons program, something that was very much against U.S. interests. Milchan was involved in a number of other thefts as well as arms sales on behalf of the Jewish state, so much so that his work as a movie producer was actually reported to be less lucrative than his work as a spy and black-market arms merchant, for which he operated on a commission basis.

That Milchan has never been arrested by the United States government or even questioned about his illegal activity, which was well known to the authorities, is just one more manifestation of the effectiveness of Jewish power in Washington, but a far more compelling case involving possible espionage with major political manifestations has just re-surfaced. I am referring to Jeffrey Epstein, the billionaire Wall Street "financier" who has been arrested and charged with operating a "vast" network of underage girls for sex, operating out of his mansions in New York City and Florida as well as his private island in the Caribbean, referred to by visitors as "Orgy Island." Among other high-value associates, it is claimed that Epstein was particularly close to Bill Clinton, who flew dozens of times on Epstein's private 727.

Alex Acosta (L) Jeffrey Epstein (R)

Epstein was arrested on July 8th after indictment by a federal grand jury in New York. It was more than a decade after Alexander Acosta, the top federal prosecutor in Miami, who is now President Trump's secretary of labor, accepted a plea bargain involving similar allegations regarding pedophilia that was not shared with the accusers prior to being finalized in court. There were reportedly hundreds of victims, some 35 of whom were identified, but Acosta deliberately denied the two actual plaintiffs their day in court to testify before sentencing.

Acosta's intervention meant that Epstein avoided both a public trial and a possible federal prison sentence, instead serving only 13 months of an 18-month sentence in the almost-no-security Palm Beach County Jail on charges of soliciting prostitution in Florida. While in custody, he was permitted to leave jail for sixteen hours six days a week to work in his office.

Epstein's crimes were carried out in his $56 million Manhattan mansion and in his oceanside villa in Palm Beach Florida. Both residences were equipped with hidden cameras and microphones in the bedrooms, which Epstein reportedly used to record sexual encounters between his high-profile guests and his underage girls, many of whom came from poor backgrounds, who were recruited by procurers to engage in what was euphemistically described as "massages" for money. Epstein apparently hardly made any effort to conceal what he was up to: his airplane was called the "Lolita Express."

The Democrats are calling for an investigation of the Epstein affair, as well as the resignation of Acosta, but they might well wind up regretting their demands. Trump, the real target of the Acosta fury, apparently did not know about the details of the plea bargain that ended the Epstein court case. Bill and Hillary Clinton were, however, very close associates of Epstein. Bill, who flew on the "Lolita Express" at least 26 times , could plausibly be implicated in the pedophilia given his track record and relative lack of conventional morals. On many of the trips, Bill refused Secret Service escorts, who would have been witnesses of any misbehavior. On one lengthy trip to Africa in 2002, Bill and Jeffrey were accompanied by accused pedophile actor Kevin Spacey and a number of young girls, scantily clad "employees" identified only as "massage." Epstein was also a major contributor to the Clinton Foundation and was present at the wedding of Chelsea Clinton in 2010.

With an election year coming up, the Democrats would hardly want the public to be reminded of Bill's exploits, but one has to wonder where and how deep the investigation might go. There is also a possible Donald Trump angle. Though Donald may not have been a frequent flyer on the "Lolita Express," he certainly moved in the same circles as the Clintons and Epstein in New York and Palm Beach, plus he is by his own words roughly as amoral as Bill Clinton. In June 2016, one Katie Johnson filed lawsuit in New York claiming she had been repeatedly raped by Trump at an Epstein gathering in 1993 when she was 13 years old. In a 2002 New York Magazine interview Trump said "I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy he's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it – Jeffrey enjoys his social life."

Selective inquiries into wrongdoing to include intense finger pointing are the name of the game in Washington, and the affaire Epstein also has all the hallmarks of a major espionage case, possibly tied to Israel. Unless Epstein is an extremely sick pedophile who enjoys watching films of other men screwing twelve-year-old girls the whole filming procedure smacks of a sophisticated intelligence service compiling material to blackmail prominent politicians and other public figures. Those blackmailed would undoubtedly in most cases cooperate with the foreign government involved to avoid a major scandal. It is called recruiting "agents of influence." That is how intelligence agencies work and it is what they do.

That Epstein was perceived as being intelligence-linked was made clear in Acosta's comments when being cleared by the Trump transition team. He was asked "Is the Epstein case going to cause a problem [for confirmation hearings]?" "Acosta had explained, breezily, apparently, that back in the day he'd had just one meeting on the Epstein case. He'd cut the non-prosecution deal with one of Epstein's attorneys because he had 'been told' to back off, that Epstein was above his pay grade. 'I was told Epstein belonged to intelligence and to leave it alone.'"

Questions about Epstein's wealth also suggest a connection with a secretive government agency with deep pockets. The New York Times reports that "Exactly what his money management operation did was cloaked in secrecy, as were most of the names of whomever he did it for. He claimed to work for a number of billionaires, but the only known major client was Leslie Wexner, the billionaire founder of several retail chains, including The Limited."

But whose intelligence service? CIA and the Russian FSB services are obvious candidates, but they would have no particular motive to acquire an agent like Epstein. That leaves Israel, which would have been eager to have a stable of high-level agents of influence in Europe and the United States. Epstein's contact with the Israeli intelligence service may have plausibly come through his associations with Ghislaine Maxwell, who allegedly served as his key procurer of young girls. Ghislaine is the daughter of Robert Maxwell , who died or possibly was assassinated in mysterious circumstances in 1991. Maxwell was an Anglo-Jewish businessman, very cosmopolitan in profile, like Epstein, a multi-millionaire who was very controversial with what were regarded as ongoing ties to Mossad. After his death, he was given a state funeral by Israel in which six serving and former heads of Israeli intelligence listened while Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir eulogized : "He has done more for Israel than can today be said"

Trump (left) with Robert Maxwell (right) at an event

Epstein kept a black book identifying many of his social contacts, which is now in the hands of investigators. It included fourteen personal phone numbers belonging to Donald Trump, including ex-wife Ivana, daughter Ivanka and current wife Melania. It also included Prince Bandar of Saudi Arabia, Tony Blair, Jon Huntsman, Senator Ted Kennedy, Henry Kissinger, David Koch, Ehud Barak, Alan Dershowitz, John Kerry, George Mitchell, David Rockefeller, Richard Branson, Michael Bloomfield, Dustin Hoffman, Queen Elizabeth, Saudi King Salman and Edward de Rothschild.

Mossad would have exploited Epstein's contacts, arranging their cooperation by having Epstein wining and dining them while flying them off to exotic locations, providing them with women and entertainment. If they refused to cooperate, it would be time for blackmail, photos and videos of the sex with underage women.

It will be very interesting to see just how far and how deep the investigation into Epstein and his activities goes. One can expect that efforts will be made to protect top politicians like Clinton and Trump and to avoid any examination of a possible Israeli role. That is the normal practice, witness the 9/11 Report and the Mueller investigation, both of which eschewed any inquiry into what Israel might have been up to. But this time, if it was indeed an Israeli operation, it might prove difficult to cover up the story since the pedophile aspect of it has unleashed considerable public anger from all across the political spectrum. Senator Chuck Schumer , self-described as Israel's "protector" in the Senate, is loudly calling for the resignation of Acosta. He just might change his tune if it turns out that Israel is a major part of the story.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation (Federal ID Number #52-1739023) that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected]


9/11 Inside job , says: July 11, 2019 at 4:08 pm GMT

aanirfan.blogspot.com in an article entitled " Epstein , Trump, 9/11 ' has identified Epstein's links not only to Mossad but to his business relationships with CIA controlled airlines and perhaps to the false flag attacks on 9/11 .According to Aangirfan , Epstein is a member of both the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission. The CIA and Mossad have strong ties resulting from the efforts , according to the Wall Street Journal no less, of former CIA chiefs William Casey and James Angleton . As Acosta has confirmed , Epstein has links to "intelligence " .

SunBakedSuburb , says: July 11, 2019 at 4:08 pm GMT

The presence of Ghislaine Maxwell is proof of Mossad's ownership of Epstein's kompromat operation. Ghislaine's father, Robert Maxwell, created the Neva network -- a consortium of technology companies, banks, and Russian and Bulgarian organized crime networks -- for his Mossad masters. Keeping up the family business, Ghislaine was running Epstein for the Israelis.

Sean McBride , says: July 11, 2019 at 4:26 pm GMT

Speculation or scenario: the highest levels of the CIA and Mossad have been closely allied since the late 1940s (see especially the role of James Angleton) and are pursuing common strategic objectives.

The New York Post remarked in March 2000:

"Epstein is an enigmatic figure. Rumors abound -- including wild ones about a career in the Mossad and, contrarily, the CIA."

Perhaps Epstein has been sponsored, funded, directed and protected by both agencies working in combination.

j2 , says: July 11, 2019 at 5:39 pm GMT

A question for Giraldi. You write:

"Those blackmailed would undoubtedly in most cases cooperate with the foreign government involved to avoid a major scandal. It is called recruiting "agents of influence." That is how intelligence agencies work and it is what they do."

But would not a single intelligence agency typically target and trap one isolated person, not a whole set of interconnected people? That is, this is more like the way the P2 lodge worked in Italy, that is, a society.

RobinG , says: July 11, 2019 at 6:25 pm GMT
@Patrikios Stetsonis

Thanks for posting Alison Weir's statement. The same Israel-First crowd that lobbied for Iraq war is now eager [for U.S.] to attack Iran.

"Only a General with balls, can save the USA and to an extension, the rest of the World." How about a Major? TULSI 2020.

Mark in BC , says: July 11, 2019 at 7:14 pm GMT

With all the mystery surrounding how Epstein obtained such great wealth, I can't help but think it may be a global money laundering operation connected to the global drug trade.

Books have been written about the CIA's involvement in cocaine and heroin distribution. Whether it's HW Bush and Iran Contra(cocaine) and Bill Clinton with Mena, AR airport complicity in same or the explosion in poppy (HW's nickname just a coincidence ) production in Afghanistan since the 2001 invasion, drugs seem to connect all these dots and more.

And, let's not forget the Israeli "Art Student" operation that targeted DEA offices.

A way for Epstein to get out from under this with the CUFI crowd might be to point out Mary, mother of Jesus, was pregnant out of wedlock at 14 so what's the big deal?

Tired of Not Winning , says: July 11, 2019 at 7:16 pm GMT

NYT and Bloomberg have been writing about the mysterious source of Epstein's wealth. Epstein's hedge fund is established offshore and has a hush-hush list of "clients". He was once sued by a guy named Michael Stroll who said he lost all $450k of his money investing with Epstein, and he told an interviewer that everyone thought Epstein "was some kind of genius, but I never saw any genius, and I never saw him work. Anyone that wealthy would have to work 26 hours a day, Epstein played 26 hours a day." Bloomberg estimated that at best his net worth is $77m, which obviously is not enough to support his lavish lifestyle with 12 homes, a private island, private jet, 15 cars.

Epstein was "let go" by Bear Sterns because of his involvement in an insider trading case involving Edgar Bronfman, whose firm Seagram was in a hostile takeover bid of another firm. Bronfman, former president of World Jewish Congress, and his two daughters are investors in NXIVM which was recently charged with sex trafficking and other corruptions. Bronfman and Les Wexner, the single largest investor in Epstein's "hedge fund", were co-founders of the Zionist org. Mega. All these people are in one way or another connected with Israel.

I suspect Epstein and Bronfman were in fact running an international sex trafficking-racketeering ring on behalf of Mossad. That would explain his mysterious source of wealth. His little black book is rumored to include 1,500 names of who's who in politics, business and arts, and includes royalty, several foreign presidents and a famous prime minister.

Tired of Not Winning , says: July 11, 2019 at 7:52 pm GMT

Acosta needs to show some integrity and resign. But of course, if he had any, he would never have signed that plea bargain to begin with.

First Mueller, now Epstein, two chances for Barr to turn the Deep State inside out, upside down once and for all. Will he do it? I have my doubts. William Barr's father, Donald Barr, was the one who recruited Jeffrey Epstein, a two time college dropout, to be a calculus and physics teacher at the prestigious Dalton School in NYC when he was the headmaster there. Donald Barr, born Jewish but "converted" to Catholicism, was later ousted by a group of "progressive" parents at Dalton for being too conservative. But he was the one who gave Epstein the foot in the door. From there he got to teach the son of Bear Stern's CEO Ace Greenberg, and was recruited by the latter to work at Bear Sterns.

anon [398] Disclaimer , says: July 11, 2019 at 8:38 pm GMT

I wouldn't count out the CIA here. It is telling that one of Epstein's havens was overseas, several of them. These are locations where the CIA could legally operate. After collecting dirt, they could then funnel some of it selectively to the Israelis for distribution so the CIA could maintain plausible deniability while having a wall of separation between themselves and the Mossad-picked third party that leaked the info.

In fact, this is the most plausible scenario; it fits with everything we know: 1) "intelligence" reportedly told Acosta to back off 2) Epstein has been linked to the CIA 3) some of these locations were overseas, giving the CIA a legal justification for spying 4) these were largely American politicians and American allies 5) the CIA reportedly threatened Trump when he came into office by implying they would leak stuff on him: the Micheal Wolfe book, Fire and Fury I believe it was, related a story of Trump being pressured to set up a meeting with the CIA where he'd speak to them and, essentially, pledge loyalty to them because they would be his enemies otherwise (that's treason, btw); Trump dutifully complied 6) Epstein's mysterious wealth and property management would have attracted CIA attention long ago, meaning they should have been aware of this unless they helped set it up, including the guy's fake wealth (a front to get close to the powerful) anyone got a tax return for this guy?

This smells like CIA-Mossad joint op. If it were solely Mossad, the CIA should have stepped in and broken up this guy's little operation considering his targets. They should have followed up by either eliminating Epstein as a message to Mossad not to leak any of their dirt or threatened Epstein with punishment if he leaked or continued his activities. Tellingly, they covered for the guy.

follyofwar , says: July 11, 2019 at 9:57 pm GMT
@follyofwar

Also, does this sorry state of affairs make it more likely that Trump will "Wag the Dog" on Iran? Would the Epstein arrest have even happened if Trump had done Bibi's bidding and attacked Iran when the False Flag of the drone shoot down had been teed up for him like a driver smacking a golf ball. Conspiracy Theories is all we have left in the crumbling Empire of Lust and Greed. Perhaps I'm just paranoid.

Jacques Sheete , says: July 12, 2019 at 12:40 am GMT

Milchan was involved in a number of other thefts as well as arms sales on behalf of the Jewish state

One of many apparently.

The scum described here was rewarded with becoming the mayor of Jerusalem.

We've been involved in everything we've been asked to do [re Israel].

[Dad] went and he bought all of the equipment from the plant. It ended up being shipped to Israel. Because you know at that time, there was a complete embargo from the United States, and what little [the Israelis] got– well Most of what they got were smuggled in.Most of them were illegal, all the arms. That's what Teddy Kollek did. That was his job before he became a mayor [of Jerusalem]. He was a master smuggler. And he was good. Oh was he good! [laughter]

-Philip Weiss, Was it 'jihad' when Henry Crown smuggled plane parts to Israel?,July 29, 2013 27
http://mondoweiss.net/2013/07/was-it-jihad-when-henry-crown-smuggled-plane-parts-to-israel-and-when-jeffrey-goldberg-moved-there.html

The vid is good too. Shows the typical smug "Cheney" smirk of the speaker.

Hillbob , says: July 12, 2019 at 12:53 am GMT
@Art

Any wonder why Trump is so overtly and disgustingly pro Israel?

trelane , says: July 12, 2019 at 1:49 am GMT

The honey trap is one of the most powerful (and legitimate) ways to compromise public officials, including heads of state. Epstein is almost certainly Mossad.

Rabbitnexus , says: July 12, 2019 at 2:16 am GMT

This has been the talk and pretty obvious conclusion now for some time. Of COURSE Epstein was/is a MOSSAD asset if not agent. What's more his usefullness to them isn't over yet, especially if Trump is one of the names he has.

I think if Trump caves next false flag and has a go at Iran, it will imply that Trump is dirty and Epstein can prove it. I'm saying MOSSAD could be behind Epstein going down now as it makes his blakmail potential an imperitive. Hopefully Trump is clean and there are indications he is. If not then he just lost any ability to resist whatever the zippers now want of him.

Rabbitnexus , says: July 12, 2019 at 2:31 am GMT
@j2

The sort of influence Zionist "Israel" needs to wield and does requires exactly such an interconnected and multilayered stable of highly placed assets. Redundancy built in and how else do you think they manage to control so much AND avoid accountability? They cast a wide net. But you knew that I think.

renfro , says: July 12, 2019 at 2:54 am GMT
@Tired of Not Winning deal with one of Epstein's attorneys because he had "been told" to back off, that Epstein was above his pay grade. "I was told Epstein 'belonged to intelligence' and to leave it alone," he told his interviewers'

#4 Offshore Tax Schemes / Money Laundering
Deutsche Bank seems to be the Gordian Knot of financial filth and corruption. Epstein was a client of Deutsche Bank's 'special services department' same as Trump and Kushner ..same Deutsche bank as already fined for money laundering.

Possible Epstein and whoever was behind him engaged in all of these. If congress is going to question Acosta .first question should be who told him Epstein belonged to intelligence.

the grand wazoo , says: July 12, 2019 at 3:10 am GMT
@j2

You mentioned the Masonic Lodge P2 in Italy. If you haven't done so yet I recommend Paul Williams book "OPERATION GLADIO".

Achilles , says: July 12, 2019 at 3:29 am GMT

That 2002 New York piece Phil mentioned has some great tid-bits:

For more than ten years, he's been linked to Manhattan-London society figure Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of the mysteriously deceased media titan Robert Maxwell

He is an enthusiastic member of the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations.

Indicative of globalism, Zionism and Jewish group interest.

those close to him say the reason he quit his board seat at the Rockefeller Institute was that he hated wearing a suit.

Obviously a falsely contrived reason, wonder what the deal was here

"I invest in people – be it politics or science. It's what I do," he has said to friends. And his latest prize addition is the former president [Bill Clinton].

Certainly suggestive of an intelligence operative mindset.

Before Clinton, Epstein's rare appearances in the gossip columns tended to be speculation as to the true nature of his relationship with Ghislaine Maxwell. While they are still friends, the English tabloids have postulated that Maxwell has longed for a more permanent pairing and that for undetermined reasons Epstein has not reciprocated in kind. "It's a mysterious relationship that they have," says society journalist David Patrick Columbia. "In one way, they are soul mates, yet they are hardly companions anymore. It's a nice conventional relationship, where they serve each other's purposes."

Friends of the two say that Maxwell, whose social life has always been higher-octane than Epstein's, lent a little pizzazz to the lower-profile Epstein. Indeed, at a party at Maxwell's house, her friends say, one is just as apt to see Russian ladies of the night as one is to see Prince Andrew.

Another interpretation is that his combination with Ghislaine was bringing a bit too much public attention to Epstein and his activities and therefore it was decided to let things die down a bit.

in 1976, he dropped everything and reported to work at Bear Stearns, where he started off as a junior assistant to a floor trader at the American Stock Exchange. His ascent was rapid.

At the time, options trading was an arcane and dimly understood field, just beginning to take off. To trade options, one had to value them, and to value them, one needed to be able to master such abstruse mathematical confections as the Black-Scholes option-pricing model. For Epstein, breaking down such models was pure sport, and within just a few years he had his own stable of clients. "He was not your conventional broker saying 'Buy IBM' or 'Sell Xerox,' " says Bear Stearns CEO Jimmy Cayne. "Given his mathematical background, we put him in our special-products division, where he would advise our wealthier clients on the tax implications of their portfolios. He would recommend certain tax-advantageous transactions. He is a very smart guy and has become a very important client for the firm as well."

In 1980, Epstein made partner, but he had left the firm by 1981. Working in a bureaucracy was not for him

Obviously, important facts are being left out. He is a talented options analyst but they have him advising clients on investment structures to save taxes? Why wouldn't they put him on principal trades for Bear if he was such an options whiz?

And why did he leave? Trading firms are notoriously NOT bureaucracies, and anyone with a talent for making money, especially in the early 80s, would find few fetters. Whole story not given here.

In 1982, according to those who know Epstein, he set up his own shop, J. Epstein and Co., which remains his core business today. The premise behind it was simple: Epstein would manage the individual and family fortunes of clients with $1 billion or more. Which is where the mystery deepens. Because according to the lore, Epstein, in 1982, immediately began collecting clients. There were no road shows, no whiz-bang marketing demos – just this: Jeff Epstein was open for business for those with $1 billion–plus.

Getting clients in asset management is a cut-throat business. But Epstein did not even have to make a pretense of competing for business?

His firm would be different, too. He was not here just to offer investment advice; he saw himself as the financial architect of every aspect of his client's wealth – from investments to philanthropy to tax planning to security to assuaging the guilt and burdens that large sums of inherited wealth can bring on.

the conditions for investing with Epstein were steep: He would take total control of the billion dollars, charge a flat fee, and assume power of attorney to do whatever he thought was necessary to advance his client's financial cause. And he remained true to the $1 billion entry fee. According to people who know him, if you were worth $700 million and felt the need for the services of Epstein and Co., you would receive a not-so-polite no-thank-you from Epstein.

Minimum $1b invested, no track record by the asset manager, and he claims the clients give him carte blanche? This is not normal wealth management.

Turning down giant new stakes just because they fall short of $1b? Nonsense. The name of the game on the buy side on Wall Street is size, because that gives you negotiating power with the sell side.

Epstein runs a lean operation, and those close to him say that his actual staff – based here in Manhattan at the Villard House (home to Le Cirque); New Albany, Ohio; and St. Thomas, where he reincorporated his company seven years ago (now called Financial Trust Co.) – numbers around 150 and is purely administrative. When it comes to putting these billions to work in the markets, it is Epstein himself making all the investment calls – there are no analysts or portfolio managers, just twenty accountants to keep the wheels greased and a bevy of assistants – many of them conspicuously attractive young women – to organize his hectic life. So assuming, conservatively, a fee of .5 percent (he takes no commissions or percentages) on $15 billion, that makes for a management fee of $75 million a year straight into Jeff Epstein's pocket.

Epstein makes all the daily investment decisions on $15b, yet no one on the sell side knows him? In other words Epstein does not invest in new issues. But new issues are the gravy for making money on the buy side – think IPO discount. This is not normal asset management.

some have speculated that Wexner is the primary source of Epstein's lavish life – but friends leap to his defense. "Let me tell you: Jeffrey Epstein has other clients besides Wexner. I know because some of them are my clients," says noted m&a lawyer Dennis Block of Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft. "I sent him a $500 million client a few years ago and he wouldn't take him. Said the account was too small. Both the client and I were amazed. But that's Jeffrey."

You can always trust the word of an M&A lawyer. They would never mislead anyone for advantage.

he found himself spending there [in Santa Fe], talking elementary particle physics with his friend Murray Gell-Mann, a Nobel Prize–winning physicist and co-chair of the science board at the Santa Fe Institute.

his covey of scientists that inspires Epstein's true rapture. Epstein spends $20 million a year on them

Gerald Edelman won the Nobel Prize for physiology and medicine in 1972 and now presides over the Neurosciences Institute in La Jolla. "Jeff is extraordinary in his ability to pick up on quantitative relations," says Edelman. "He came to see us recently. He is concerned with this basic question: Is it true that the brain is not a computer? He is very quick."

Stephen Kosslyn, a psychologist at Harvard. Epstein flew up to Kosslyn's laboratory in Cambridge this year to witness an experiment that Kosslyn was conducting and Epstein was funding. Namely: Is it true that certain Tibetan monks are capable of holding a distinct mental image in their minds for twenty minutes straight?

Epstein has a particularly close relationship with Martin Nowak, an Austrian biology and mathematics professor who heads the theoretical-biology program at the Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton. Nowak is examining how game theory can be used to answer some of the basic evolutionary questions – e.g., why, in our Darwinian society, does altruistic behavior exist?

Danny Hillis, an MIT-educated computer scientist whose company, Thinking Machines, was at the forefront of the supercomputing world in the eighties, and who used to run R&D at Walt Disney Imagineering

An intelligence operative would certainly have no interest in cultivating, buying or blackmailing scientists in the fields of nuclear physics, controlling human behavior or supercomputers!

And by the way, the need to explain "altruism" in terms of game theory is a tip-off that Epstein and Nowak have no spiritual life and cannot comprehend of it in other people. No surprise to find "do what thou wilt" as his guiding principle.

Strangely enough, given his scientific obsessions, he is a computer-phobe and does not use e-mail.

Before taking a big position, Epstein will usually fly to the country in question. He recently spent a week in Germany meeting with various government officials and financial types, and he has a trip to Brazil coming up in the next few weeks. On all of these trips, he flies alone in his commercial-jet-size 727.

Friends of Epstein say he is horrified at the recent swell of media attention around him

He has never granted a formal interview, and did not offer one to this magazine, nor has his picture appeared in any publication.

The final straws. If he's not an intelligence operative, he's doing everything he can to give that impression!

He "flies alone." LOL! Poor Jeffrey, he so ronery!

Tsigantes , says: July 12, 2019 at 3:47 am GMT
@SunBakedSuburb

When Bob Maxwell died at sea or disappeared it turned out that he had used or stolen every penny of ALL the pensions of his employees .which were never recovered. After her father was given a state funeral in Israel (not England where he and his family lived and worked) there followed a 2 year court case in which his 6 children were finally excused from any responsibility for these pensions, despite inheriting his money and two of them working in his companies.

And now Ghislaine turns up as a US socialite, multi-decade pedophile procurer and international human trafficker. Nice family .nice values! ...

tac , says: July 12, 2019 at 3:52 am GMT

Since the Little SAINT James pedo-island that was allegedly owned by Jeffery Epstein did not have an airport (the closest one being Curil E King airport in St. Thomas (about ten miles away)) that means the 'guests' would either have to take a boat trip or a helicopter trip. Since Little SAINT James does have a clearly marked helicopter landing site at the north central east part of the island (when viewed on google maps in satellite view) one would suspect that is how these so-called 'guests' arrived at this pedo-island.

... ... ...

Parisian Guy , says: July 12, 2019 at 4:11 am GMT
@9/11 Inside job

According to Aangirfan , Epstein is a member of both the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission.

This trilateral+CFR membership is plainly written on the Epstein Foundation website.

anon [189] Disclaimer , says: July 12, 2019 at 4:14 am GMT

First Weinstein then Epstein and how about the Clinton's or should we call them clintstein.birds of feather

Tired of Not Winning , says: July 12, 2019 at 4:16 am GMT
@renfro

Those activities are not mutually exclusive. It could be #5: All of the above. We all know how Mossad operates. Nothing is beyond them. The end justifies the means.

Israhell has a right to exist.

Tsigantes , says: July 12, 2019 at 4:16 am GMT
@Tired of Not Winning

Acosta is a distraction .and possibly innocent since he did what he was told which was to go easy on an intelligence asset.
Forget the small fry and concentrate on the real criminals please.

Sean , says: July 12, 2019 at 4:17 am GMT

Senator Chuck Schumer, self-described as Israel's "protector" in the Senate, is loudly calling for the resignation of Acosta. He just might change his tune if it turns out that Israel is a major part of the story.

Schumer would already have been tipped of if is was an Israeli operation. It's an anti Trump thing.

Tsigantes , says: July 12, 2019 at 4:27 am GMT
@follyofwar

The fact that the case has been moved to the Southern District of New York validates your cynicism.

Has the Only Democracy in the Middle East decided to sacrifice Epstein (he can be sprung later, his jig was up anyway) so that an Epstein circus can replace Russiagate?

ChuckOrloski , says: July 12, 2019 at 4:30 am GMT
@renfro

From renfro, the following great point:
"If congress is going to question Acosta .first question should be who told him Epstein belonged to intelligence."

, renfro! Thanks & my respect.

Because I have special enthusiasm for renfro's advice to "Congress," such will not fly with "congress."

Daniel Rich , says: July 12, 2019 at 4:47 am GMT

@ Philip Giraldi,

Quote: "It will be very interesting to see just how far and how deep the investigation into Epstein and his activities goes."

Reply: We'll get a glistening kabuki show, with lots of wailing [walls], thunder and lightening, twists and turns, but, in the end [as this case will go on and on – Harvey Weinstein, anyone?] people will forget about it.

Huh?

Oh, look. The Cartra$$hians!!!

Intelligent Dasein , says: Website July 12, 2019 at 4:53 am GMT

I fear that this is all rapidly turning into a modified limited hangout. A whole lot of dirt will be inconclusively exposed and, even though everyone will have a pretty good idea of what happened, there won't be enough will to do anything about it.

The caveat will be when the financial system finally implodes. A horde of jobless and desperate people will rapidly lose their patience for being governed by a bunch of incompetent pedophile oligarchs, but until then everyone will just go with the flow.

j2 , says: July 12, 2019 at 6:06 am GMT
@Rabbitnexus ut it looks more like a millionaire club. Intelligence agencies prefer to use secretaries and other less visible people as spies. I would look for some association of friends of Israel, something that has lots of money, wants lots of power, spies on people, both enemies and friends, and has some special love for Israel.

I maybe wrong, but this does not seem to me to be a single intelligence agency of any country. It operates in an age old method of a secret society, like mafia or masons. It is neither mafia nor masons, but some that especially likes to help Israel and probably created it. I guess there are such friends of Israel organizations, several.

jack daniels , says: July 12, 2019 at 6:10 am GMT
@Achilles

In social science it is often assumed that people are selfish. The attempt to show that altruism contributes positively to the prospects for survival and reproduction is important in defeating the presumption of underlying selfishness. It's not a very deep idea. If ten people carry a gene that causes one of them to throw himself on a hand-grenade, thereby saving the other nine, that gives the gene a better chance of being passed along than if the grenade goes off and most or all of the carriers are killed. If interested, see the book Evolution of the Social Contract by Brian Skyrms.

Wizard of Oz , says: July 12, 2019 at 6:10 am GMT
@Tired of Not Winning ld that one of the names is supposed to be Queen Elizabeth.

First a question: who says the telephone numbers were the sort only an intimate or ultimate insider would have? Queen Elizabeth's would surely have had to be the Buckingham Palace, Windsor Castle, Sandringham or Balmoral switchboard.

Then there is what a sleazy or dangerous guy like Epstein might be expected to do, namely toss in a whole lot of names (with or without true up to date direct line numbers) to confuse and provide diversion and cover. Cute though isn't that he was supposed still to be using an old fashioned address book in the 21st Century rather than an encrypted or at least password protected smartphone.

Anon [255] Disclaimer , says: July 12, 2019 at 6:11 am GMT

From Tennessee,

The Palm Beach mansion Epstein owned was rigged with hidden cameras in some of the guest bedrooms according to an article I read a couple of years back.

Im glad we have forums like this so the word can get out: honeypot operations are not a thing of just the KGB/Cold War past, but of the Soros/intel orgs/globalist/Establishment present.

Future politicians and wealthy businesspersons need to be aware of this. The Bible has a great old verse that goes something like, "Be sure your sins will find you out".

Tono Bungay , says: July 12, 2019 at 8:25 am GMT

"Pedophilia"? Has anyone accused Epstein of mistreating pre-pubescent girls? I don't think so. If Mr. Giraldi wants to deplore what Epstein is accused of, fine. But don't try to confuse us by suggesting that he attacked children rather than underage teens.

gsjackson , says: July 12, 2019 at 8:55 am GMT
@follyofwar even Israel understand this would not be regime change business as usual.

U.S. war gamers for years have been saying there's no way the U.S. could significantly "win" the war. It would surely drive gas prices way up, and wake up the American public, creating a probably insurmountable political problem for Trump. Israel is liable to get pelted from all sides -- Hezbollah has promised to attack in the event of war, and there are probably ways of striking from Syria and Iran. Then there are the wild cards of Russia and China. No one knows for sure what Putin would do if Iran were attacked, but he could certainly turn Israel into a parking lot very quickly if he wanted to.

Wizard of Oz , says: July 12, 2019 at 9:12 am GMT
@Achilles

Well founded scepticism. Still, now we know the extent of what Bernie Madoff got away with perhaps someone who was clever and charming and appealed to those who wouldn't have invested with Madoff just might have put together enough billion dollar portfolios to be able, as long as he managed his tax affairs well to become very rich during the 80s. It would be interesting to know how he handled the October 1988 melt down.

A1N2O3N , says: July 12, 2019 at 10:47 am GMT

Good article. I was waiting for someone to come out and state the obvious regarding the Mossad connection.

My guess is that everything will be swept under the carpet, as usual, just as it was with the famous "DC Madam" case and her black book of DC clients.

Kartoffelstampfer , says: July 12, 2019 at 11:00 am GMT

One aspect of this entire Epstein Talmudic child abuse saga that really p*sses me off is the active participation of the IRS. It was the same with Madoff and Maxwell. None of these talmudic ponzi's could have gotten off the ground if these gangsters had been correctly filing all the correct tax forms like all the other goy schmucks.

Since 2012, with the Statute of Limitations retroactively extended 3 years to a total of 6 years backwards to 2006, all undeclared foreign bank accounts of US persons or green card holders on IRS FBAR forms (Foreign Bank Account Report), and since 2012 form 8948 (Statement of Specified Foreign Financial Assets), which is even more intrusive, face IRS penalties of 50% of the highest annual balance, and many tax sinners have been forced to pay more in taxes than these bank accounts ever contained. This is the tip of the iceberg compared to jewish charity and foundation and estate fraud.

Epstein supposedly was "gifted" the NY mansion from his "mentor" at the defunct and fraudulent money changer Bear Stearns for what must have been more than 50 Million. Rick Wiles drilled down in detail into this gift on Thursday .

These kinds of shenanigans, like flying "friends" around the world to your various child abuse temples in your private jets, are taxable gifts. In fact double taxed, taxed first as income and second with the gift tax. The Lolita Express could never be declared as a business expense either.

The entire rotten affair stinks on every level and it gets more putrid at every layer of talmudic control is peeled bank. At each level more Jews and Zionists come wiggling out and scurrying off to disappear from social and dinosaur media. But also as each layer gets peeled bank we get closer to the core, which with ever more certainty is ritual child sacrifice used for talmudic control.

Vetran , says: July 12, 2019 at 11:32 am GMT
@Tsigantes

Forget the small fry and concentrate on the real criminals please.

It's going to be difficult

Maurene Comey, one of the lead prosecutors who is handling the Epstein case, happens to be James Comey's daughter, the ex FBI boss.
It remains to be seen if she will be giving Bill Clinton special treatment, just like her father gave to Hillary's "lock her up".
Moreover, Judge Berman who preside the case, happens to be also a Clinton appointee (in 1998).

Jacques Sheete , says: July 12, 2019 at 11:34 am GMT
@ChuckOrloski

Chuck, have you seen this recent PG article?

The Death of Privacy: Government Fearmongers to Read Your Mail
Philip Giraldi • July 11, 2019 • 1,200 Words • 7 Comments • Reply

I say we dumb goyim pay more attention to that, and less to Errp-stain.

hobo , says: July 12, 2019 at 11:43 am GMT

In 1982, according to those who know Epstein, he set up his own shop, J. Epstein and Co., which remains his core business today. The premise behind it was simple: Epstein would manage the individual and family fortunes of clients with $1 billion or more. Which is where the mystery deepens. Because according to the lore, Epstein, in 1982, immediately began collecting clients. There were no road shows, no whiz-bang marketing demos – just this: Jeff Epstein was open for business for those with $1 billion–plus.

The fly in the ointment of this carefully cultivated cover story:

"Statistics published in Forbes magazine's annual survey of America's billionaires expose this little known but shocking reality. In 1982 there were 13 billionaires; in 1983 15″

DanFromCT , says: July 12, 2019 at 11:51 am GMT
@Tired of Not Winning

There's no need for anything so crude as either the head of the CIA or FBI reporting directly to the Mossad when both agencies are riddled from top to bottom with de facto Israeli espionage agents.

MLK , says: July 12, 2019 at 11:51 am GMT

A few no doubt unappealing observations.

It's a Fool's Errand to think you can solve Epstein like a puzzle. Most, like Giraldi, are engaged in bias confirmation. That isn't to say his speculations are entirely wrong but that we're all part of the play in one way or another.

In my view timing is rarely if ever coincidental. That seems glaringly obvious here. The Epstein scandal was resurrected now for a reason. I suspect that like the Academic Admissions scandal the Permanent Government is throwing its weight around. Warning (once again) that it can inflict casualties if exposing its 2016 malefactions is taken too far.

Weinstein served the same function -- with poor Meryl Streep the Sgt. Schultz headliner.

Put yourself in the mind of the various filth (e.g. Brennan) implicated in attempting to throw the election to Hillary and, failing that, frame-up and destroy the duly elected POTUS. They think they're entitled to a pass given all they've turned a blind eye to over the years.

Epstein's arrest strikes me as a shot across the bow in the context of the upcoming IG Report/Durham Investigation. I'm not picking on Giraldi but all of his fans here should note he's been Mumble Mouth at best on those malefactions. Nor am I saying that isn't the wise move for him.

The scandal that needs to be buried is that they built a global surveillance (and storage) apparatus, including of the American people. There was widespread, systematic abuse of it during the Obama Administration ('000s of people). Whatever limitations there were, effectively Mutually Assured Destruction with the establishment factions keeping an eye on each other, collapsed as they all united to stop Trump.

Epstein, like Weinstein and the Academic Admissions scandal, is both distraction and a warning to the Governing and Business Classes -- keep you heads down and mouths shut about these powerful intelligence/national security entities.

EliteCommInc. , says: July 12, 2019 at 12:34 pm GMT

I generally think waiting to see how matters fall out is a very good idea. But when I read the information of Mr. Acosta's interview, I sank a bit. Because it strongly suggested vested interest by the government – not to get to the truth.

That even the circus that usually comes to surround even credible cases will so muddy the waters as to avoid a rendering of what actually took place.

And given how compromised the collusion matter is was or will continue to be – the stakes may be higher here such that muddying the waters will be some relief for those involved.

And why due process matters

anon [499] Disclaimer , says: July 12, 2019 at 12:35 pm GMT

Myth of brilliance has been created to explain origin of his wealth . But even that shit was not enough , more myths had to be created like capacity of having brilliant discussions with Nobel laureate ( Physics) or with great educators , and with world renowned economist .

I guess authorities can get away with saying what F lies they can say until it blows up on their faces . Jew thinks goym are stupid , so tell them whatever come to mind like having a great autonomous brain that doesn't depend on education or training or publicly visible job to figure out the finances , economy, hard computer , physical and cognitive sciences and earning millions ,
while busy with
1 taking nude picture and storing them in 3-4 different areas
2 ferrying big guns from 3 different continents to Orgy Islsnd
3 Getting their intimate information , charting them connecting them and storing them
4 having parties with semi nude girls but attended by celebrities
5 holding message parkour parties from girls procured from shanty , trailer park ,
6 having serial girl friends
– there are more .

Oh yeah!!! No wonder people under pressure , lack of information , from removal of connecting dots , undue respect for glory money power , fear for being seen as ' naysayer ' or pessimist or low IQ uninformed , and fear of public ridicule can believe or can feign to believe the wildest whoopers / lies/ plaint shit dished out by the upper echelon of the society .
( then we wonder why people believe in UFO , big foot ,
, personal angels , apparitions, or America is a force for good )

DESERT FOX , says: July 12, 2019 at 12:48 pm GMT

Epstein in my opinion is a mossad officer whose agenda is to compromise zio/US politicians for the benefit of Israel and in this he is just one of many in the zio/US and in fact the zio/US gov is infested with dual Israeli citizens whose first and only loyalty is to Israel.

Read the book Blood in the Water by Joan Mellen about the attack on the USS Liberty by Israel and the US government to see how intertwined the mossad and the CIA are and remember the joint Israeli and zio/US gov attack on the WTC on 911, the zionists rule America!

RoatanBill , says: July 12, 2019 at 1:13 pm GMT

"CIA and the Russian FSB services are obvious candidates, but they would have no particular motive to acquire an agent like Epstein."
This is an assertion with nothing to back it up. The CIA, in particular, has every reason to use an 'Epstein' for its nefarious purposes as it IS the deep state or at least a major part of it.
The CIA owns the drug trade in Afghanistan and Mena, Arkansas can easily be connected to CIA activities along with gun running in Mexico. The CIA is the official criminal organization within the US gov't and it went rogue decades ago. It can afford to have multiple 'Epstein' clones running around to make sure it can control the US political class to not investigate its activities too closely.
The CIA and Israel are indistinguishable from each other. Israel runs US foreign policy via the CIA and their own Mossad.

Jacques Sheete , says: July 12, 2019 at 2:03 pm GMT
@A1N2O3N

My guess is that everything will be swept under the carpet, as usual, just as it was with the famous "DC Madam" case and her black book of DC clients.

Most certainly.

BTW, what ever happened with Podesta and Pizzagate? Anyone know?

Ludwig Watzal , says: Website July 12, 2019 at 2:48 pm GMT

Come on, Phil Giraldi. Do you believe in an independent American justice system? What a joke. It's corrupt to the bone. Weinstein, Epstein, Maxwell, Adelson, Saban, Koch you name it, have America in their pocket like Sharon used to say. During a furious beef between Sharon and Shimon Peres, Sharon turned toward Peres, saying "every time we do something you tell me Americans will do this and will do that. I want to tell you something obvious, don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."

Mike from Jersey , says: July 12, 2019 at 2:49 pm GMT

I read the Miami Herald's articles on the "plea deal" by which Epstein got a slap on the wrist.

I recommend that everyone read them.

This is just one of them.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article214210674.html

Now ask yourself a question?

Could anyone but an intelligence agency get away with all of the following: 1) harassing witnesses (forcing their cars off the road public highways), 2) searching the trash of police officers in an attempt to find dirt on the officers and 3) obtaining a sweet heart plea bargain when the police had dozens of victims (who didn't even know each other) telling the exact same story and ready to testify – as well as photos of nude adolescents seized in a search.

Who could have done such things and got away with it.

Epstein must have been an operative. The only question is: for whom did he work?

Amerimutt Golems , says: July 12, 2019 at 3:37 pm GMT
@Curmudgeon

Gasp!!! Are you suggesting sweet, innocent Monica was blowing Slick Willie for reasons other than his taking advantage of her?

In his book Gideon's Spies the late Welsh author Gordon Thomas claimed Mossad had tapes of the same for blackmail reasons. However, this has never been confirmed.

TGD , says: July 12, 2019 at 3:45 pm GMT

Epstein will "cop a plea" and avoid a trial. That is certain.

A couple of things I'd like to ask the brilliant Epstein: Why did you engage in your nefarious sexual activity in New York State and Florida? The "age of consent" in both states is 18. In New Jersey, PA and other states, it's 16. Now US federal law prohibits sex between people 12 to 16 if one of the participants is 4 years or more older than the other. The law says "between" not inclusive of 16. So 16 might be OK. That's young enough.

Also Jeffrey, why didn't you take your "Lolita Express" to Tel Aviv? It's legal in Israel and no one checks up of the actual ages of the "working girls." And most are the tall blond/blue and slim types from Eastern Europe.

SafeNow , says: July 12, 2019 at 4:13 pm GMT

"Pedophile" is incorrect, as a commenter noted. The age cutoff is 13 for pedophilia. DSM-5. These escapades comprise different serious felonies. However, the Epstein colleagues can rest easy, if Rush's instinct about prosecuting Hillary is correct. Rush has said that prosecuting Hillary will not happen, because it would "roil" the nation. Same here. I expect to see a lot of MSM passive voice, and intransitive verbs, but no roiling. "The car drove off the side of the bridge."

jack daniels , says: July 12, 2019 at 4:13 pm GMT
@niteranger

Asimov's father once wrote a book called "The Sensuous Dirty Old Man." Hmm .

More seriously, did it ever occur to you that someone might want to know your source before accepting your claim that Mueller "supposedly classified Epstein as an informant"? Supposed by whom?? Eh????

Rurik , says: July 12, 2019 at 4:36 pm GMT
@Talha sh meat.

believes Epstein allegedly preyed on Araoz when she was 14 because she was vulnerable.

"She had just transferred to a new school and didn't know anybody," attorney Kimberly Lerner said in an interview. "She didn't have a father. Her mother was very poor. She was from a single-parent home. She was really struggling, and she wanted to be a model and an actress. He absolutely preyed upon the most vulnerable."

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/epstein-accuser-jennifer-araozs-lawyer-165000048.html

S , says: July 12, 2019 at 4:53 pm GMT
@Lou123 n Ring' which supposedly was providing child prostitutes to high level US politicians who in turn were then being blackmailed by the existence of surreptitious recordings having been made of these incidents by US intelligence agencies.

The below newspaper article explains what ultimately happened to the lead investigator of the case. Gary Caradori had been hired by the Nebraska state legislature to find out what had actually transpired regarding the alleged Nebraska based ring.

Needless to say his investigation was unexpectedly 'cut short'.

kiers , says: July 12, 2019 at 6:12 pm GMT
@Tired of Not Winning

What if .Acostoa is just a stooge, In fact he probably insisted on SOME jail time here. Otherwise the rest of the US "justice" system could care less. Even NYC is complicit. It's a snow job of theater, this democracy is. It's a joke. It only looks like a democracy on tv.

AnonFromTN , says: July 12, 2019 at 6:16 pm GMT

Mossad, CIA, FBI, MI5, who cares? All of these are criminal enterprises, just like the governments providing them cover and "legitimacy".

Really interesting aspect of any elite in-fighting is that it exposes an "uncomfortable truth" that there is only one elite running the show. That there is only Republicratic party, which regularly organizes (for the benefit of sheeple still believing in "democracy") puppet shows called elections, where ostensibly Democrats battle Republicans. In fact, both are just two hands of the same puppet master. That's why the same criminals are prominent at all "Republican" and "Democratic" functions.

The other thing that the story of that Epstein character clearly shows is that all those "respectable people" are nothing more than rich criminals, and the only reason they aren't in jail is that they have enough money to get away with any crime.

Bombercommand , says: July 12, 2019 at 6:23 pm GMT
@Talha refully scripted to identify girls who could be vulnerable to manipulation, have a chaotic family life, need money, need social connections for career advancement . The female procurer would report to Epstein and receive instructions to abandon or continue to recruit the "candidate". A female procurer is used as she will not arouse suspicion in a young girl. These are simple techniques that have been used for centuries worldwide. A father must cultivate a close relationship with his daughter, know when she is OK or not OK, and most importantly be an example of a quality man that his daughter will compare to every man she meets(being overprotective merely makes her more vulnerable).
Republic , says: July 12, 2019 at 6:35 pm GMT
@Mike from Jersey

If Epstein worked for Mossad, why wasn't he tipped off in Paris not to return to the US?

Israeli Intel is the best in the world. They knew about the secret grand jury and the indictment.

On a side note even if Epstein is convicted and jailed, there is a possibility that he could be secretly released.

In US penal history that has happened before.

JimDandy , says: July 12, 2019 at 6:41 pm GMT

Meh. Get ready for a tidal wave of MSM articles talking about how the deranged, alt-right internet conspiracy theorists are having a field day with the Epstein case, after which your average American moron will be programmed to just smirk and roll his eyes whenever the facts touched on in this article are brought up.

RobinG , says: July 12, 2019 at 6:56 pm GMT
@Patrikios Stetsonis

Well you 've got a point there

Yes, I do, but y'all seem to have missed it.

Talha , says: July 12, 2019 at 6:58 pm GMT
@Bombercommand

Ms. Aroaz's father was deceased before she met the female procurer

Well, then I take back what I said – obviously can't blame a dead man for not being there.

A father must cultivate a close relationship with his daughter, know when she is OK or not OK, and most importantly be an example of a quality man that his daughter will compare to every man she meets

Excellent points.

have a chaotic family life,

This seems key.

Peace.

niteranger , says: July 12, 2019 at 7:09 pm GMT
@jack daniels

Here's at least one link: https://goldfiremedia.net/2018/07/07/muellers-fbi-may-have-given-jeffrey-epstein-a-sweetheart-deal/

There are many more if you look them up! Mueller is a Bag Man in the intelligence agencies.

anonymous [375] Disclaimer , says: July 12, 2019 at 7:13 pm GMT
@Talha

Fathers are passé in America. Strong, intelligent wimmin are doing things for themselves.!

renfro , says: July 12, 2019 at 7:16 pm GMT
@Kartoffelstampfer

Agree.

If Epstein's tax returns aren't brought out /investigated in his trial then that means this trial will be another cover up.

niteranger , says: July 12, 2019 at 7:17 pm GMT
@Patrikios Stetsonis

I don't know if Giraldi is a plant or not. However, the first law of understanding "intelligence agents" or ex spooks is to always be suspicious of everyone. The group he belongs too seems legitimate enough but we have been set up before. I've be reading Giraldi a long time and he has a similar "theme" in every piece but he also leaves small things out that should be in his articles. The Devil is in the Details and man with his experience should be "Detailed Oriented."

He should know about Epstein and Muller and a few other things since this is the stock and trade of all intelligence agencies.

Alden , says: July 12, 2019 at 7:17 pm GMT
@Tired of Not Winning

Acosta did resign

Alden , says: July 12, 2019 at 7:21 pm GMT
@ChuckOrloski

Unless he had a recruiter pimp in Slovenia 40 years ago I doubt Melania was an Epstein girl.

Tired of Not Winning , says: July 12, 2019 at 7:38 pm GMT

The interesting thing about this case is, the left wants it exposed because they think it'll take down Trump, the right wants it exposed because they think it'll take down Bill Clinton. My guess is, more Dems will go down than Republicans. Trump was a Democrat and a big supporter of Clintons and Chuck Schumer before he decided to run as a GOP in 2016. He could've gone either way.

Sex scandals tend to plague the left, especially sexual perversions like porn, prostitution, child sex or gay sex. It's coz the left is dominated by Jews who are prone to sexual perversion, and also because liberals believe feelings and passion trump all, anything you do is not your fault as long as you are just following your feelings.

One reason Trump is so pro-Israel and hell bent on attacking Iran could be because the Jews have something on him, which is not too hard since he's been in business with them for a lifetime and is as unctuous and unscrupulous as any of them. They might be getting impatient with him on Iran and wants someone who can get the job done like Mike Pence to take over. Epstein could take down both Clinton and Trump, Clinton has outlived his usefulness to them since Hillary didn't win, he'll be the sacrificial lamb while they take out Trump for Pence.

ChuckOrloski , says: July 12, 2019 at 7:43 pm GMT
@Republic

Republic asked the following critical question which should not be cast away:
"If Epstein worked for Mossad, why wasn't he tipped off in Paris not to return to the US?"

! Mossad deception is sophisticated & patterns of telling a lie upon another improved lie ar characteristic.

Also, Mossad's implemented practices/techniques are adaptable to circumstances which seem supportive of what dumb goyim consider "justice served," but they actually benefit Israel.

A thought. I figure Epstein knew what fate awaited him prior to landing at Teterboro Airport tarmac.

Thanks & my respect, Republic.

Hillbob , says: July 12, 2019 at 7:48 pm GMT
@AnonFromTN

ah mr AnonfromTN you are always so , so perspicacious

Alden , says: July 12, 2019 at 7:49 pm GMT
@NoseytheDuke

Well, Giraldi did work there and would have heard people complaining about the presence and influence of Israeli spies. Colonel Kiatowoski's book about the presence of Israeli spies in the Pentagon made it clear Pentagon personnel resented the Israeli spies but could do nothing about it.

We all know about workplace gossip and gripes.

Rurik , says: July 12, 2019 at 8:02 pm GMT
@Talha ing to a recently divorced man whose x-wife hates him (nothing new), and who has two teenage daughters. The x has poisoned the daughters against him, (nothing new), and because he was trying to be strident with his elder daughter vis-a-vis drugs, (nothing new), he now is not allowed to have any contact with them via the skewed courts, (nothing new).

They're doing a Weimar regime redux. That was the apex of their heyday, when the children of Germany were their playthings, and Berlin was a giant brothel- girls and boys for sale, especially the ones whose fathers had died in their holocaust that was WWI.

Such a deal!

Alden , says: July 12, 2019 at 8:05 pm GMT
@j2 has maybe 10 Israeli immigrants or American Jews who work for him. Each has 10-15 American Jews who can be called upon. So it's a wide network.

You're right that clerks secretaries accountants have great access to information. But the Israeli system is widespread. Plus, the information needn't always come from Jews.

It really does exist. There's an Israeli who hosts sabbath dinners in Los Angeles. He invites American Jews to be briefed on what's going on in Israel. I'm positive he also recruits agents in place he spots at those dinners. Guests who have no access to anything useful at least get to feel they're participating in the cause.

renfro , says: July 12, 2019 at 8:07 pm GMT
@AnonFromTN he only reason they aren't in jail is that they have enough money to get away with any crime.

True. And this Epstein coverage is bringing out more nooks and crannies of how the really rich control systems for their own benefit.

Like why was Epsteins tax rate on his NY mansion only 0.6% .why is Bill de Blasio tax rate on his mansion only 0.2% ..when other NY'ers taxrate is 12%.

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-edit-one-perverse-system-20190710-l7hryfwdd5gqndsyor3j5tsyiq-story.html

Kartoffelstampfer , says: July 12, 2019 at 8:08 pm GMT

@ChuckOrloski howed the original twelve members in indecent poses . At the entrance to the abbey, there was an inscription which read Fay ce que voudras – do what thou wilt – a term which Aleister Crowley borrowed nearly 200 years later. "

Ben Franklin likely would have been a prominent visitor to Little St. James, just as he was to West Wycombe in his day. Thomas Paine too.

PetrOldSack , says: July 12, 2019 at 8:25 pm GMT

There is regular sex and "deviation", pornography, pedophilia

There is drugs, illegal and legal, hard and soft

Then there is finance, always pimping, always on exploitation, abuse of minors, as young as not yet born, globally, and to be comitted legally. Pedophilia and drugs are soft core, barely leveling at the sock suspenders of our financiers.

A few hundred of the top tier Wall Street-ers belong in jail, as rats eating their own tail, they only can be administered there. Starting with Mnuchin. Epstein should be let alone, so he can decoy a little longer, and await his turn, pecking order obliges. Ah, the public sector, the ones with faces, real fungi are minding the dark.

Linked on this same site today, Michael Hudson, seems to attribute Empire and financial capitalism, debt, the demise of the dollar, to Trump. ?. Of all men, another scripted clown gets the blame. The shredding is spoiling the carpet.

If unz.com is so willingly pointing out the third liners, as Maya sacrifices to the deities in the shades, then there you have one more reason the rag is impervious to censorship.

Alden , says: July 12, 2019 at 8:27 pm GMT
@Wizard of Oz

Gardner's and retail store clerks have personal phone numbers of the rich and famous. For instance, clerks at high end retail clothing stores are supposed to cultivate shoppers on a personal level so they can call them up with the great news of items they'd like to buy.

Actors producers directors numbers and home addresses can be obtained from people who work at their agents accountants PR and attorney offices

Police departments have access to all phone numbers. Most of the Find a Number websites don't have the private number of celebrities. But there are plenty of people who can access all the cell phone records.

It's not difficult

renfro , says: July 12, 2019 at 8:40 pm GMT

How to get away with blackmailing without blackmailing.

First, you need to recruit people in. Have lots of massive parties at your spacious home for wealthy men. Have lots of women mostly teens and under aged.

Sooner or later there will be some mingling going on. Some billionaire will get handsy and end up in a room with a girl ..and hidden cameras.

Epstein informs him later the girl was really 15, but offers him a nice, neat way to buy silence: a large allocation to his hedge fund, which charges 5% ..with power of attorney for himself.

To ease the pain for the black mailee Epstein puts the money in something as safe as treasury notes or money market fund.

Then Epstein collects his 'fees' ..x millions on the interest from treasury notes or etc..

Soooo no traceable blackmail payoff checks or wire transfers from his fellow pedos.

Epstein may also try this on other important political figures, mayors, prosecutors, etc. He doesnt blackmail them to 'invest' in his fund but has them in his pocket.

The evidence would probably be in a deposit box in his offshore Caribbean bank.

Miro23 , says: July 12, 2019 at 8:44 pm GMT
@Tired of Not Winning v>

One reason Trump is so pro-Israel and hell bent on attacking Iran could be because the Jews have something on him, which is not too hard since he's been in business with them for a lifetime and is as unctuous and unscrupulous as any of them. They might be getting impatient with him on Iran and wants someone who can get the job done like Mike Pence to take over. Epstein could take down both Clinton and Trump, Clinton has outlived his usefulness to them since Hillary didn't win, he'll be the sacrificial lamb while they take out Trump for Pence.

Just what I was going to write, but you got there first.

Alden , says: July 12, 2019 at 8:45 pm GMT
@Tono Bungay

Thank you very much. pedophilia stops at the victims 13th birthday. Then it's various degrees of molestation of a minor . It's usually 13 and 14, then 15. Then 16 and 17. In some states the age of consent is 16. Epstein's activities weren't just molestation of minors. They were procuring for prostitution as well.

Sean McBride , says: July 12, 2019 at 8:51 pm GMT
@Lo ry, blackmail, careerism, etc.)

@Lo

I have been meaning to ask this for a while, Dr. Giraldi, let’s say stuff you write about Israel is all true, you are ex-CIA, then can we assume there are many like you or is that not the case? If that’s the case, then why none of them stand up and oppose? Or are they too afraid of standing up for their country?

There are at least nine factions in the CIA concerning Israeli politics:

1. anti-Israel for emotional reasons (instinctive hostile feelings towards Jews, Judeophobia)

2. anti-Israel for ideological reasons (reasoned opposition towards Judaism and Zionism as doctrines)

3. anti-Israel for strategic reasons (bad for long-term American interests)

4. pro-Israel for emotional reasons (warm feelings towards Jews)

5. pro-Israel for ideological reasons (for instance, Christian Zionists)

6. pro-Israel for occult reasons (the world’s most powerful secret society mandates support as part of a grand mystical scheme)

7. pro-Israel for reasons of personal self-interest (issues concerning bribery, blackmail, careerism, etc.)

8. pro-Israel for strategic reasons (good for long-term American strategic interests)

9. pro-Israel for strategic reasons AND hostile to Jews (Jewish nationalists provide a counterweight to Jewish leftists in the Diaspora, divide and conquer tactics)

Since the late 1940s, the pro-Israel factions in the CIA have easily dominated the anti-Israel (or Israel-skeptical) factions.

By the way, most CIA employees, including many high level employees, don't have a full understanding of what is going on in the CIA, including knowledge of the most influential players and operations and their connections.

Alden , says: July 12, 2019 at 8:53 pm GMT
@hobo

Thanks for looking it up. I wondered about
1 how many billionaires there were at the time.
2 how many had a billion to give to Epstein's control

Most of the billion would have been tied up in the companies and property, not cash to invest.

[Jul 13, 2019] There have long been rumors of Epstein's possible ties to what Dick Cheney so memorably described as the "dark side."

Jul 13, 2019 | www.counterpunch.org

+ There have long been rumors of Epstein's possible ties to what Dick Cheney so memorably described as the "dark side." As Vicky Ward disclosed in an excellent piece for the Daily Beast , Alex Acosta told the Trump's vetting team that he was told to go lightly on Epstein because he was "above his pay grade" and that " he belonged to intelligence ." Given Epstein's enduring relationship with Dershowitz, we can perhaps deduce the intelligence agency with which Epstein was allied

+ According to the NYT, Jeffrey Epstein keeps a framed photo of MBS in his mansion. (Is anyone checking the flight logs of Air Lolita for Netanyahu's travels?)

+ There's a lot of giddy talk about how the arrest of Jeffrey Epstein is a sign of the collapse of the Establishment. I don't know. The Establishment started to crumble during the French Revolution. It's been a slow, gravity-defying fall.

[Jul 12, 2019] A new place for a fair trial for Epstein

Jul 12, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Lumberjack , 3 hours ago

BREAKING:

Epstein's trial is being moved to Tel Aviv. His dream team claim he cannot get a fair trail... Even in New York.

[Jul 12, 2019] Is Epstein case a start of Trump counterattack on the Clinton wing of Dems

Jul 12, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

Moon Reader , Jul 11 2019 4:45 utc | 125

Mr Reader

Interesting post in that it raises many of the key issues and how they may fit together.

Generally agrees with my initial (or maybe secondary) impression that this is result of Trump triggering backmail clause by failing to act as required by those running the show.

But, I have I think a better theory more fits the situation. Acosta (the human "sh*t-grenade) was hired because he knew stuff and knew people who knew stuff. Trump was being blackmailed with Epstein affair - dems/cia/etc... It almost work, he almost attacked Iran, was led to believe it could be done in a way that would not lead to war - likely by you-know-who.

He balked and called their "bluff". They were not bluffing. Problem for them is that Trump can maybe weather the sh*t-storm they can bring - comey/brennan/clapper/et al... For now, I am inclined to side with Trump.
I don't know why but in spite of his lack of polish, he's brought some crude and interesting results.

ralphieboy , Jul 11 2019 12:19 utc | 149
Why would intelligence services want to make an intelligence op out of someone so sleasy and easily compromised?
Ghost Ship , Jul 11 2019 12:27 utc | 150
Epstein was just a young "dirty old man". Trump is innocent - can anybody point to any incident where Trump committed a real felony, not some breach of landlord regulations, For all the accusations of him being the capo di tutti capi, nothing has really stuck, so he gives the impression of being a criminal but really isn't but it's good theatre. So my guess is that Trump told Barr to go to it and bring Epstein in and bang him up for life. Reasons:
1. Trump was getting bored with Acosta
2. Epstein may drag down others - the Clintons being prime candiadates
3. This is a poke in the eye for Obama
4. Trump looks good when Epstein does the time he deserves
Meanwhile the anti-#resistance investigations role on and implicate Hillary for making false statements and Obama for trying to fix the 2016 election.
Trump'll romp home in 2020. If Adelson, etc. tries to push another Republican candidate, Trump'll run as an independent and probably still win. Trump now has his main "problems" by the balls.
As for the Daily Beast they have an article claiming that there was co-ordination between Trump and Russia instead of collusion . I'd love some of the shit the author's been smoking, 'cos it's up there with S T Coleridges Kubla Khan as a work of fantasy.
nottheonly1 , Jul 11 2019 12:52 utc | 151
'Appalled' does not suffice any longer. All this shit is more than a mentally healthy Human Being can bear - and in that fact lies also a motive to bombard the population 24/7 with shit like that. Therefore it appears that this, too is part of an orchestrated effort to rile up people against each other and destroy whatever peace still exists.

You could call it 'distraction' from insurmountable problems created by this specific sub-species of Homo Sapiens. But I am not commenting about that.

I am as pissed as a decent person can get without losing its temper. But I am utterly disgusted that this childfucker Epstein has soiled the name of one of my favorite Human Beings in history:

Brian Epstein - the one person that gave Humanity The Beatles.

I can not emphasize enough how effed up this is. There must be a court order to rename him into Jeffrey Childfucker, in order to protect the name of one of the greatest music managers ever.

But I do concede to the fact, that this kind of damage might as well limited to people who know who The Beatles were.

JasonT , Jul 11 2019 12:53 utc | 152
The wealthy class has defeated the poor class. What we are seeing now is a civil war in the wealthy class. The Epstein business is just one of the skirmishes in that civil war.
Really? , Jul 11 2019 12:57 utc | 153
Today's CJR media feed focuses on Acosta and the 2007 plea deal without mentioning either Bush or Obama. Focus is still on Trump. Of course Acosta is now a member of the Trump administration. But Trump was not in charge with this particular POS went down.

??????

https://www.cjr.org/the_media_today/alexander_acosta_jeffrey_epstein.php

harry , Jul 11 2019 9:12 utc | 139

Trump is fighting for his life and money. Lose the next election and spend the rest of both fighting imprisonment. What makes me think its time to remind people that the office of POTUS has teeth?
somebody , Jul 11 2019 9:43 utc | 140
"I was told Epstein 'belonged to intelligence' and to leave it alone,"

does not say he "worked for intelligence". It might just mean that "intelligence" made the deal with him in return for information and that they then estimated the fall out and cleaned up (ie took people that could be blackmailed out of sensitive positions).

They don't care about the fall out any longer, so this now is allowed to blow up.

The plea deal was in 2007 under president Bush.

Really? , Jul 11 2019 10:08 utc | 141
# 123 Travers

"The left is going wild thinking that this will "get Trump" but quite the opposite is happening. . .

Now this story will run into 2020 largely damaging democrats into the 2020 election. Trump's DOJ is running the operation."

That is my perception, although I am not a qualified observer.

But as to the "why now" of Epstein, surely it is 2020. As for Barr being a CIA kid, that does give some pause, except he is working for Trump, and so presumably he is playing his part in the 2020 event.

From what I have read and heard, Trump is not tainted by the Epstein story. The attempts of those on the left or whatever (I can't even call it the left anymore) to associate Trump with the Epstein story are very belabored. "Grabbing pussy" of adult women who cluster around is not the same as recruiting young girls and teenagers and running sex camps for grown-up boys such as Randy Andy, RAndy Bill, and other Randy boys.

To me the big question is why Dersh was part of the FOIA action to unseal the docs. If just appearing in a photo with Epstein is enough for "the left" to try to hang Trump, the Dersh is in a lot more image trouble, with him name on the plane manifest.

Is Trump's name on the plane log? I don't think so. So, imagewise Dersh is going to take a big hit. And, by defending Trump last summer as he did, he has now associated himself with both Trump and Epstein. Trump comes out clean. Dersh comes out Derty.

PS. Why is so much blacked out on the plane logs that have been published?

Really? , Jul 11 2019 10:20 utc | 142
125 Moon Reader

the Macow sounds "about right" to me, but only "about." I can very well imagine that Dersh is taking orders from the JSP, but if he rode the Lolita Expres, he is in trouble.

AFAIK Trump did not ride the Lolita Express. The rumors about raping a 13-year-old in Epstein's apartment will have to become more than rumor to harm Trump, no matter how much the left pushes an Epstein = Trump narrative.

As they pushed the Weinstein = Trump narrative. I.e., whenever you see Weinstein's name, think "Trump." But I don't think that really worked except with the very ones who were pushing that equation in the first place. In other words, auto-suggestion.


William Gruff , Jul 11 2019 11:00 utc | 144
O @110 sez: "...every good gamblers knows to hedge their bets.

You bet equally on both wrestlers in the ring? You don't make much profit that way. Much better to arrange who wins ahead of time with the competitors and the referee and then just bet on the one everyone agrees to make the winner.

Sure, Trump was in on the fix, so even if he won the power elites still win, but that is true for all of the other contestants in the primaries as well, with the possible exception of Sanders. The problem is that the power elites have very specific plans, and those plans depended upon their tool in the White House being Clinton, not Trump. It isn't that Trump would be their enemy or anything silly like that, but rather that a Trump victory would not resonate; would not synergize with the megatrends they were manufacturing within the population.

On the contrary, the Trump victory introduced a societal forcing function that is 180° out of sync with the larger narrative the power elites were trying to create. Trump was chosen to be the loser in the 2016 elections because his defeat would have had the opposite effect, damping trends in society that the power elites wanted quashed and reinforcing the ones that they wanted amplified. Hundreds of $billions in entertainment-base narrative generation that have been fed to the public since 2016, and had been in the production pipeline from years prior, were supposed to be reflected in the real world by the victory of the first woman president. Instead that media is being fed to the public while the top office in the world is occupied by an unrepentant pussy grabber. The messaging is diametrically opposed and interferes with itself rather than reinforcing itself.

Sure, Trump is still the tool of the power elites, but he is not the tool they were planning on.

pantaraxia , Jul 11 2019 11:20 utc | 145
@62 fastfreddy

"I am trying to link Wexner with the Bronfman's (Seagrams Liquor Family) via a source other than the Mega Group (which may not be credible, IDK)."

The existence of the Mega Group was revealed in the Wall Street Journal in 1998 under the headline 'Titans of Industry Join Forces To Work for Jewish Philanthropy'. According to the Journal , it was founded in 1991 by Wexler and Charles Bronfman.

Membership included Edgar Bronfman, the chairman of the World Jewish Congress, Charles Bronfman, Edgar's brother and a top executive of the family's flagship Seagrams Corp.; Leslie Wexler of Limited, Inc.; Charles Schusterman, chairman of Samson Investment Co. of Tulsa, Oklahoma; Harvey "Bud" Meyerhoff, Baltimore real estate magnate; Laurence Tisch, chairman of Loews Corp.; Max Fisher, the Detroit oil magnate and Republican Party powerhouse; bagel magnate Max Lender; Leonard Abramson, the founder of U.S. Healthcare; and hedge-fund manager Michael Steinhardt.

One of its so-called 'philanthropic' projects entitled "Wexner Analysis: Israeli Communication Priorities 2003," was leaked to Electronic Intifada.

Leaked document exposes pro-Israel lobby's manipulation of US public
https://electronicintifada.net/content/leaked-document-exposes-pro-israel-lobbys-manipulation-us-public/4540

Israel Shamir also writes about the Mega group in 2001 entitled Kugel Eaters,
https://www.mediamonitors.net/kugel-eaters/

"...when they met in the Edgar Bronfman mansion in Manhattan. The head of the World Jewish Congress hosted a meeting of the fifty richest and most powerful Jews of the US and Canada. There was no press coverage, no limelight, just a few lines in the newspapers. The gathered multibillionaires discussed the ways to achieve Jewish unity, and strengthen the Jewish identity of American Jews, tersely reported Shlomo Shamir for Haaretz. They also agreed to launch a PR program under the Orwellian codename of 'Truth' with the purpose of influencing American public opinion regarding Israeli policies.

The megabucks call themselves 'Mega group'. This name appeared in the media a couple of years ago, as a name for the secret Israeli mole in the upper reaches of the US establishment. It came up in an overheard phone conversation, later denied by the Israeli embassy in Washington, DC. The newshounds and spook watchers got it wrong. 'Mega' was not an agent, Mega was the boss."

curious man , Jul 11 2019 11:55 utc | 146
Defense Department Computer Network Among Top Sharers of Child Pornography

Defense Department computers are among the top distributors of child pornography. An untold number of Department of Defense (DOD) employees and contractors have subscriptions to child pornography websites, and the problem is apparently so pervasive it requires new technical solutions to address it.

"Hundreds of DoD-affiliated individuals" were recently identified as suspects in child pornography cases, according to an investigation by the Defense Criminal Investigative Service.

So far, authorities have only looked into about 20 percent of these cases. But already, they've found "several" individuals "using their government devices to download or share said pornographic material."

Last year, an investigation by the National Criminal Justice Training Program found DOD computers were among the top networks nationwide for peer-to-peer sharing of pornographic images of minors. DOD's network ranked 19th out of 2,891 computer networks studied.

To prevent such widespread abuse going forward, the "End National Defense Network Abuse Act" would "crack down on this activity by upgrading the training and technical capacity of military criminal investigative organizations to confront the misuse of DoD computers, facilities, and equipment," according to a press release. It would also arrange for DOD authorities to work more closely with civilian law enforcement on these cases.

"The notion that the Department of Defense's network and Pentagon-issued computers may be used to view, create, or circulate such horrifying images is a shameful disgrace, and one we must fight head on," said Rep. Abigail Spanberger (D -- Va.), who co-sponsored the bill with Rep. Mark Meadows (R -- N.C.).

A companion bill in the senate has been introduced by Sens. Lisa Murkowski (R -- Alaska) and Brian Schatz (D -- Hawaii).

LINK 1 LINK 2

curious man , Jul 11 2019 12:02 utc | 147
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNue92Gta3s

2014 Aerial drone video of Little St. James. The island is owned privately by Jeffrey Epstein and is located southeast of St. Thomas, United States Virgin Islands.

jared , Jul 11 2019 12:11 utc | 148
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[Jul 12, 2019] When Epstein gets released on bond to his mansion....would you want to be one of his bodyguards?

Jul 12, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Chuckster , 5 hours ago

When Epstein gets released on bond to his mansion....would you want to be one of his bodyguards? How much $.

Chuckster , 5 hours ago

So...there is some rot among us?

Anunnaki , 5 hours ago

If that happens he will be in Tel Aviv by nightfall with a 14 year old under each arm.

[Jul 12, 2019] Welcome to the Hellfire Club by MICHAEL WARREN DAVIS

This debauchery is a part of the crisis of neoliberalism. It does increases the level of de-legitimization of neoliberal elite.
As one commenter pointed out: we need the names of scum, wealthy perverts from the United States who travelled to Epstein island-sized rape dungeon off the coast of Saint Thomas.
Notable quotes:
"... This appears to be something of a pattern. "What is so amazing to me is how his entire social circle knew about this and just blithely overlooked it," Ward says of Epstein's pederasty. "While praising his charm, brilliance and generous donations to Harvard, those [I] spoke to all mentioned the girls as an aside." ..."
"... The Epstein case is first and foremost about the casual victimization of vulnerable girls. But it is also a political scandal, if not a partisan one. It reveals a deep corruption among mostly male elites across parties, and the way the very rich can often purchase impunity for even the most loathsome of crimes ..."
"... our elites still love Epstein, even if he does rape little girls ..."
"... This is how America is. This is how our ruling class works: Democrat, Republican, whatever. As the inimitable Matthew Walther points out , there's a reason people believe in Pizzagate. The Hellfire Club is real. And for decades, we've emboldened them considerably. ..."
"... Surely I'm not the only one who noticed that the Epstein sex abuse timeline is nearly identical to the Catholic Church sex abuse timeline. Both investigations were initiated in the early 2000s. Both revealed that the exploitation of children was an open secret in the highest echelons of power. Both investigations were closed a few years later, though not resolved. We assumed justice would take its course, and slowly began to forget. And then within two years of each other, both scandals emerged again, more sordid than ever. And on both occasions, we realized that nothing had changed. ..."
"... Of course, we know where that leads us. For two centuries, conservatives have tried to dampen the passions that led France to cannibalize herself circa 1789. ..."
"... Yes: those passions are legitimate. We should feel contempt for our leaders when we discover that two presidents cavorted with Epstein, almost certainly aware that he preyed on minors. We should feel disgust at the mere possibility that Pope Francis rehabilitated Theodore McCarrick. And we should be furious that these injustices haven't even come close to being properly redressed. ..."
"... This isn't about politics. This is about common decency and respect for the most vulnerable. Clinton? Trump? Who cares? If--and that's a big "if"--it comes to pass that either or both were involved in the Epstein festivities then either or both are scum and should be punished accordingly --along with the rest of their playmates at the Epstein playground. ..."
"... Does the author have some evidence to prove that President Trump is a pedophile, as he suggests in this article? Are all persons who may have been friends with Epstein perverts and criminals? ..."
"... If our decadent elite falls at all, it will be from imperial over-reach and losing a major foreign war, not from pedophilia, which is rapidly being normalized along with the rest of LGBTQWERTYUIOP. ..."
"... The so called elites seem above reproach. Our morality has been skewed through the soul. ..."
"... I applaud the courageous outliers like Ryan Dawson and Phil Giraldi that have considerably more guts than me. Blessings ..."
"... I don't think there is going to be a revolution, whether in UK or US, at most people would be outraged for couple of weeks and then forget. ..."
"... Excellent article. But off the mark on one key point. The corruption of the elites and Ruling Class -- and they are sickeningly corrupt -- is only a reflection of, or if you will a leading indicator, of a related corruption of the body politic. ..."
"... So Trump simply makes a comment, has no record of any flights, attendance or participation and this article would have you believe that it equates as despicable as a frequent flyer on the Lolita Express? This author is no different than the fake news. ..."
"... Trump did allegedly make one flight on the plane, from the NY area to Florida. No records show him flying to the "orgy island". ..."
"... Actually, the logs don't show that he was on the plane. Epstein's brother CLAIMS he was on the plane...the most anybody else has said to support that is that Trump looked at the plane on the ground. ..."
"... It's a Trump problem insofar as he continues to defend Acosta. This is the Sec of Labor who effectively let Epstein walk and who now oversees anti-human trafficking efforts (which he has repeatedly tried to gut the funding for). ..."
"... Did you see Acosta's press conference? The local State DA wanted to let Epstein walk - on a lesser state charge through a Grand Jury. Acosta's US Attorney office stepped in to get the charges increased as much as they could so that Epstein would do SOME jail time and - more importantly - have to register as a sex offender. ..."
"... I agree. As much as I detest Trump, I don't think that he was involved with Epstein's debauchery. However, I do believe the women that claim being assaulted, because he is on tape claiming to do what they describe. And there is so many of them. And he has had multiple documented affairs while married to every one of his wives. But no evidence yet of him with underage girls. ..."
"... Right, because those Kavanaugh accusers were so credible, right? No evidence, decades later? Nope. Unlike Kavanaugh, Trump was on a big stage for decades and was a pretty easy target with the tabloids looking for dirt...but none of them came forward. ..."
"... Trump owes America an apology, reading his comments it is obvious he was aware of, and disapproved of, Epstien proclivities, but didn't have the guts to stand up. (I do not believe the stories of Trump being involved, but if it turns out I am wrong on that, fry him ) ..."
Jul 11, 2019 | www.theamericanconservative.com

Our elites cavorted with a pedophile, almost certainly aware of what he was up to. This is how revolutions begin.

Bill Clinton (Wikipedia Commons); Jeffrey Epstein mugshot (public domain) and Donald Trump (Gabe Skidmore /Flickr)

For once, I'm with New York Times writer Michelle Goldberg: Jeffrey Epstein is the ultimate symbol of plutocratic rot.

In her latest column , Goldberg interviews Vicky Ward, who covered the 2003 revelations of Epstein's sex abuse for Vanity Fair . Ward's editor, Graydon Carter, allegedly ran interference for the high-flying pervert, nixing her discussion with two women who claimed to have been assaulted by Epstein. "He's sensitive about the young women," Carter explained to Ward.

This appears to be something of a pattern. "What is so amazing to me is how his entire social circle knew about this and just blithely overlooked it," Ward says of Epstein's pederasty. "While praising his charm, brilliance and generous donations to Harvard, those [I] spoke to all mentioned the girls as an aside."

Back to Goldberg:

The Epstein case is first and foremost about the casual victimization of vulnerable girls. But it is also a political scandal, if not a partisan one. It reveals a deep corruption among mostly male elites across parties, and the way the very rich can often purchase impunity for even the most loathsome of crimes. If it were fiction, it would be both too sordid and too on-the-nose to be believable, like a season of "True Detective" penned by a doctrinaire Marxist.

Of course, Goldberg -- being a Democrat -- doesn't want us to think of this as a partisan scandal. Yet Nancy Pelosi's daughter conspicuously tweeted that it's "quite likely that some of our faves are implicated." We all know by now that President Bill Clinton was a frequent flyer on the Lolita Express, Epstein's private jet, which ferried wealthy perverts from the United States to his island-sized rape dungeon off the coast of Saint Thomas.

Still, a few Republicans will almost certainly be implicated, too. Now, look: I voted for President Donald Trump in 2016. If I don't vote for him in 2020, it will be because I've lost faith in the whole democratic process and have moved to a hole in the ground to live as a hobbit. Having said that, Trump is definitely tainted by Epstein. In a 2002 interview with New York Magazine , the president called him a "terrific guy." "It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do," Trump said, "and many of them are on the younger side."

Don't pretend that's an innocent remark. It's like when Uncle Steve passes out face-down on the kitchen floor at the family Christmas party and Uncle Bill says, "I guess that one likes to drink." We still love Uncle Steve, even if he does overdo it on the fire water. And our elites still love Epstein, even if he does rape little girls. None of us is perfect, after all.

This is how America is. This is how our ruling class works: Democrat, Republican, whatever. As the inimitable Matthew Walther points out , there's a reason people believe in Pizzagate. The Hellfire Club is real. And for decades, we've emboldened them considerably.

Remember how Democrats and centrist Republicans mocked conservatives for making such a stink about Monica Lewinsky's blue dress? The media elite competed to see who could appear the most unfazed by the fact that our sax-playing president was getting a bit on the side. "I mean, heh heh, I love my wife, but, heh, the 1950s called, man! They want their morality police back."

Well, look where that got us. Two confirmed adulterers have occupied the White House in living memory; both are now under fire for cavorting with a child sex slaver on Orgy Island. Go ahead and act surprised, Renault.

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Surely I'm not the only one who noticed that the Epstein sex abuse timeline is nearly identical to the Catholic Church sex abuse timeline. Both investigations were initiated in the early 2000s. Both revealed that the exploitation of children was an open secret in the highest echelons of power. Both investigations were closed a few years later, though not resolved. We assumed justice would take its course, and slowly began to forget. And then within two years of each other, both scandals emerged again, more sordid than ever. And on both occasions, we realized that nothing had changed.

Whew. Now I get why people become communists. Not the new-wave, gender-fluid, pink-haired Trots, of course. Nor the new far Left, which condemns child predators like Epstein out one side of its mouth while demanding sympathy for pedophiles out the other.

No: I mean the old-fashioned, blue-collar, square-jawed Stalinists. I mean the guy with eight fingers and 12 kids who saw photos of the annual Manhattan debutantes' ball, felt the rumble in his stomach, and figured he may as well eat the rich.

Of course, we know where that leads us. For two centuries, conservatives have tried to dampen the passions that led France to cannibalize herself circa 1789.

Nevertheless, those passions weren't illegitimate -- they were just misdirected. Only an Englishman like Edmund Burke could have referred to the reign of Louis XIV as "the age of chivalry." Joseph de Maistre spoke for real French conservatives when he said the decadent, feckless aristocracy deserved to be guillotined. The problem is, Maistre argued, there was no one more suitable to succeed them.

Yes: those passions are legitimate. We should feel contempt for our leaders when we discover that two presidents cavorted with Epstein, almost certainly aware that he preyed on minors. We should feel disgust at the mere possibility that Pope Francis rehabilitated Theodore McCarrick. And we should be furious that these injustices haven't even come close to being properly redressed.

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Michael Warren Davis is associate editor of the Catholic Herald . Find him at www.michaelwarrendavis.com .


Gerald Arcuri a day ago

Words fail.

Connecticut Farmer fuow a day ago • edited

"Us Democrats"??? This isn't about politics. This is about common decency and respect for the most vulnerable. Clinton? Trump? Who cares? If--and that's a big "if"--it comes to pass that either or both were involved in the Epstein festivities then either or both are scum and should be punished accordingly --along with the rest of their playmates at the Epstein playground.

The only question is whether or not those who participated in this apparent debauch will ever be brought to justice--so, on that note--let the dissembling begin!

LeeInWV fuow a day ago

Look at the Nevada legislature and it's recent legislation if you want to know how to improve this problem in our society.

Rossbach a day ago

Does the author have some evidence to prove that President Trump is a pedophile, as he suggests in this article? Are all persons who may have been friends with Epstein perverts and criminals?

TheSmokingArgus Rossbach a day ago

You are as my grandfather told me repeatedly: "You are your associates & colleagues, their morality or lack thereof, will in time infect you as well, despite all protests to the contrary; choose wisely."

Katherine TheSmokingArgus an hour ago

Not true. I associate every day with people at work that I do not like, because I need to pay my mortgage.

kirthigdon a day ago

If our decadent elite falls at all, it will be from imperial over-reach and losing a major foreign war, not from pedophilia, which is rapidly being normalized along with the rest of LGBTQWERTYUIOP.

In France, the generation of aristocrats and especially the royal family who were guillotined were relatively conservative in their sexual habits compared to the bloodthirsty sexual revolutionaries who murdered them. And the libertine aristocrats of Great Britain (I believe that's where the actual hellfire club was from) led the war against Napoleon and the temporary victory of the old order which followed his defeat.

Kirt Higdon

C. Reef a day ago • edited

The so called elites seem above reproach. Our morality has been skewed through the soul. Tribalism is alive and well. Wars, diversity, erasing of our most cherished values, and a mainstream media that is in lockstep the rulers and those who see fit to erase Freedom of Speech and make arbitrarily decisions as to what we can and cannot say. It is like living a bad dream. I applaud the courageous outliers like Ryan Dawson and Phil Giraldi that have considerably more guts than me. Blessings

LeeInWV C. Reef a day ago

It's the mainstream media that forced this into the light. The elites and the justice system did all they could to cover it up, same as with the Catholic Church.

As for "our most cherished virtues", this has all been going on forever. Kings and courtiers, masters and slaves, the son of the manor and the serving girls. Give me a break.

The only thing that is changing it is a shift in power to women.

paradoctor LeeInWV a day ago

And the fact that we talk about it.

paradoctor a day ago

A regime's cruelty creates motive for revolution; its folly creates methods for revolution; and its weakness creates opportunity for revolution.

Didaskalos a day ago

"Paederasty" is better reserved for relationships between patrician men, and boys, in which there was an expectation that the boy would eventually approximate the social rank of his lover. Not to be applied to a man running a little-girl brothel.

Rick Steven D. Didaskalos a day ago

From the musical Hair, a major, representative work of the culture that brought us the Sexual Revolution:

Sodomy/fellatio/cunnilingus/paederasty
Mama/why do these words sound so nasty?

Kessler a day ago

In UK thousands of girls were raped and nobody lost their job over it. Well, correction, people who tried to bring attention to the horrific crimes happening lost their jobs or were prosecuted. After the scandal could no longer be contained and arrests were finally made, there was no reckoning. No people marching in the streets, demanding heads of the goverment. I don't think there is going to be a revolution, whether in UK or US, at most people would be outraged for couple of weeks and then forget.

EliteCommInc. Kessler 21 hours ago

Or might possibly be that upon examination, it became abundantly clear that the allegations were highly exaggerated as is typically the case in these matters.

It might be a good idea to keep a clear head and hope that evidence "actual evidence" will determine events as opposed to the salacious hysetria that usually surrounds these cases.

Bungalow Bill a day ago

Bingo!

Rick Steven D. a day ago • edited

"...the decadent, feckless aristocracy deserve to be guillotined. The problem is...there is no one suitable to replace them."

100%. And I work as a psychiatric RN in a busy Emergency Room. Believe me, depravity in this country is not in the least bit confined to 'elites'. They just make convenient scapegoats. I can tell you hundreds of stories. But conservatively, I would estimate that anywhere from 50% to 75% of the women I care for were abused as children. And I have cared for literally thousands of women over the years.

"This is how revolutions are born."

Not so fast. The French peasants were rioting over bread, not aristocratic decadence. In 21st Century America, no one is starving. The poor in this country are obese, for Chr-sakes! And half the country is implicated in so-called 'aristocratic decadence', through online porn.

And like John Lennon once wrote, "You say you want a revolution?" Be careful what you wish for...

Sid Finster Lee Jones a day ago

Prosecutors will tiptoe around anything that puts them in an awkward position vis-a-vis the rich and powerful.

These are people that prosecutors want to owe you favors, and these are also people that can ruin the lives and career prospects of law enforcement.

This explains why, to give instance, Comey engaged in comically tortured legal reasoning to justify not bringing charges against HRC for servergate, when she would be cooling her heels in a SuperMax if she were a normie. According to conventional wisdom, HRC was going to be the next president, already anointed practically, and that meant that she was someone that would be in a position to do Comey big favors, and at the same time, someone that you did not want to make an enemy of.

Jerry a day ago

Excellent article. But off the mark on one key point. The corruption of the elites and Ruling Class -- and they are sickeningly corrupt -- is only a reflection of, or if you will a leading indicator, of a related corruption of the body politic.

The Clintons, for example, have been getting away with sordid and even criminal behavior for a long time. It didn't stop a major political party from putting one of them at the top of its presidential ticket only a few years ago nor a majority of voters from pulling the lever for her.

In fact, going back to the Lewinsky saga, it was not only the elites who pooh-poohed the whole thing; it was also the citizenry. Check the record. Yeah, the Clintons are Exhibit A of the Real Problem. Anyway, there ain't gonna be a revolution, at least not the kind that Michael Warren Davis warns of.

Barry_D Jerry 19 hours ago

"In fact, going back to the Lewinsky saga, it was not only the elites who pooh-poohed the whole thing; it was also the citizenry. Check the record. "

The equivalent today would have been if Mueller's replacement spent a few more years 'investigating' Trump, only to set him up with a perjury trap over whether or not he committed adultery.

Coonie a day ago

This piece at the very least is not well researched hit piece on Trump but seems more to be a rabble rousing class warfare type click bait filler. James Patterson reports that Trump kicked Epstein out of Maro-a-Lago 15 years ago after there were complaints that he was abusive to women and more recently has said he is not a fan of Epstein. I've seen no evidence that Trump participated in the abuse of underage girls with Epstein. Trump is no saint but sensationalizing this story and implicating Trump to sell your copy is not journalism.

Michael D. Nichols a day ago • edited

So Trump simply makes a comment, has no record of any flights, attendance or participation and this article would have you believe that it equates as despicable as a frequent flyer on the Lolita Express? This author is no different than the fake news.

chrismalllory Michael D. Nichols a day ago

And it was a comment made three years before the first known report to police about Epstein's behavior. I read Trump's comment as Trump being Trump. Unless he is responding to a personal attack, Trump tends to layer on the compliments and tries to speak positive about people.

Trump did allegedly make one flight on the plane, from the NY area to Florida. No records show him flying to the "orgy island".

TrustbutVerify chrismalllory an hour ago

Actually, the logs don't show that he was on the plane. Epstein's brother CLAIMS he was on the plane...the most anybody else has said to support that is that Trump looked at the plane on the ground.

TruthsRonin a day ago

The author throws around "revolution" so casually... The guillotine definitely needs a resurgence; unfortunately, it's not just the aristocracy that needs it; moreover, there are still none better suited to take over after they chopping has stopped.

The Arioch TruthsRonin 20 hours ago

And throws without not even a thought but also without care to learn or now. It is funny that American journo is now invoking Stalin's ghost, but.... Stalinists were COUNTER-revolutionaries. And he says he is sure he knows who they felt?
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Inflation, words means nothing today for journos, being merely a click-bait

WilliamRD a day ago

According to the Washington Post Trump Banned Epstein From Mar-a-Lago Years Ago because he propositioned an underage girl at the club.

This is not a Trump problem.

Dave WilliamRD a day ago

It's a Trump problem insofar as he continues to defend Acosta. This is the Sec of Labor who effectively let Epstein walk and who now oversees anti-human trafficking efforts (which he has repeatedly tried to gut the funding for).

Also, Trump supposedly told a campaign aide that he barred Epstein. Perhaps that's true. Hard to know with this inveterate liar.

TrustbutVerify Dave an hour ago

Did you see Acosta's press conference? The local State DA wanted to let Epstein walk - on a lesser state charge through a Grand Jury. Acosta's US Attorney office stepped in to get the charges increased as much as they could so that Epstein would do SOME jail time and - more importantly - have to register as a sex offender.

Now, should the Feds have interfered in a State case is a matter for another discussion. But Actosta's office did MORE than what they should and everything they could with the evidence at the time.

As to Trump banning Epstein - it isn't "Trump told some aide", it is in the court records of the trial. Trump was subpoenaed and talked voluntarily to the attorney for the girls. The attorney for the girls researched it and he says, and it is in the court record, that Trump banned Epstein.

This is not a "Trump problem" as the media is trying to make it...this is a Dem problem.

JeffK from PA WilliamRD 21 hours ago

I agree. As much as I detest Trump, I don't think that he was involved with Epstein's debauchery. However, I do believe the women that claim being assaulted, because he is on tape claiming to do what they describe. And there is so many of them. And he has had multiple documented affairs while married to every one of his wives. But no evidence yet of him with underage girls.

TrustbutVerify JeffK from PA an hour ago

Right, because those Kavanaugh accusers were so credible, right? No evidence, decades later? Nope. Unlike Kavanaugh, Trump was on a big stage for decades and was a pretty easy target with the tabloids looking for dirt...but none of them came forward.

THAT is your biggest clue that their claims are, as the judge recently said in dismissing one of these laughable cases, ""As currently stated, the Complaint presents a political lawsuit, not a tort and wages lawsuit,"

Then, of course, the Trump lawyers just released a video of what happened that shows he gave her a peck on the cheek during a conversation as he was leaving. She lied.

Xanadu a day ago

I think some conservative, maybe Rubio, needs to stand up and simply state they are going to lead on this, and then do so.

Simply go after anyone that is involved and make the casual nature of peoples knowledge of this kind of behavior into a something that has to be repented of.

Trump owes America an apology, reading his comments it is obvious he was aware of, and disapproved of, Epstien proclivities, but didn't have the guts to stand up. (I do not believe the stories of Trump being involved, but if it turns out I am wrong on that, fry him )

For a republican leader to stand up as I am suggesting, would force the left to make a decision. Either abandon their current attitudes towards sexual permissiveness, or defend them. Either way conservatives win.

TrustbutVerify Xanadu an hour ago

That comment was from three years before Epstein was charged. But YOUNG does not mean TOO young, always, and Trump was obviously speaking of what OTHERS say, not what he knew for a fact.

Dave a day ago

Davis--and many TAC readers--voted for Trump even though the then-candidate sexually assaulted women and got caught bragging about it.

While I welcome conservatives to the #metoo era, it must be acknowledged that their "outrage" didn't come to life until they could attach the dirty deeds to Bill Clinton and other "elites" (whatever that overused term means).

TrustbutVerify Dave an hour ago

No, it came with Weinstein...who proved what Trump ACTUALLY said on the bus to be true. Not that HE, Trump, HAD grabbed women, but that young women seeking fame would LET the rich and famous grab them. Shortly after we found out that this was true when we found out about Weinstein and what those young starlets allowed. What people knew, all good Hollywood liberals and Dems, and LET continue while accepting Weinstein's political contributions and working with him professionally.

Please.

[Jul 12, 2019] https://www.google.com/url?sa=i source=web cd= ved=2ahUKEwjP4cj_1q3jAhUHwMQHHe42BE4QzPwBegQIARAC url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.vanityfair.com%2Fnews%2F2019%2F07%2Fhow-trump-kept-tabs-on-jeffrey-epstein psig=AOvVaw00x3I27o3z9ZOCVhSSzPkp ust=1562962452658171

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If that freeeking punk is still breathing- it makes me question the existance of a GOD! play_arrow 2 play_arrow Kefeer 4 hours ago remove link

I suspect much of his wealth deals with the acquisition of control files on wealthy people. Blackmail for sale, which is "pay if you have been played". play_arrow 5 play_arrow NAV 2 hours ago remove link

And then there's blackmail for power. The American Anti-Defamation League has long made it a practice for decades to tail all Congressmen – liberal or conservative -- as was brought out in allegations in the San Francisco trial of its head operative Roy Bullock on charges of buying blackmail information from members of the San Francisco Police Department as reported by the San Francisco Examiner. Bullock had collected information and provided it to the ADL as a secretly-paid independent contractor for more than 32 years.

Can it be that there's a connection between data of this kind and the unbelievable unification of almost every congressman behind every Israeli position?
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Lex Wexner is a big time pro Israeli with ties to the mob. Bet he was never caught on Jeffy's candid camera. play_arrow PKKA 4 hours ago remove link

According to Fox News, the plane was called the Lolita Express. It is noted that the owner of the aircraft was convicted of pedophilia. On the plane of a man who even organized an "island of sex slaves," even flew Hillary Clinton.

Epstein is known in the States as the organizer of the search for underage girls for private parties, the media said, citing a source.

According to some data, in 2016 in the United States 52,147 children were illegally imported from other countries. All these children are imported into the United States unaccompanied, but with the constant sponsorship of a well-known family foundation.

I even wondered if Hilary's old pan loves little boys or girls? play_arrow 2Blondboys 4 hours ago remove link

He supposedly was part of the Tri Lateral Commission. Also never reported in to NYC cops every 90 days as ordered. So while authorities have been watching him for years, nothing ever was done. Comey's daughter is a prosecutor on this case? play_arrow Anunnaki 4 hours ago remove link

Epstein was furious he had to register as a sex offender. ay_arrow 1 Proudly Unaffiliated 4 hours ago remove link

Ladies and Gentlemen, behold. This is the face of the Clinton wing of the Democratic party. Pedophiles.
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He will be broke AND EVERYTHING IS COMING OUT REGARDLESS IF HE TALKS.

NEW YORK - A new state law in New York could give Jeffrey Epstein's alleged victims more opportunities to seek justice.

In January, the state legislature passed the Child Victims Act , which expanded the statute of limitations in child sex abuse cases to give survivors more time to seek criminal charges or sue their abusers -- or both.

Under the new law, which Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed in February, survivors of child sexual assault can pursue criminal felony charges until they turn 28, and file a civil lawsuit before age 55. www.channel3000.com/news/national-news/new-york-state-law-could-help-jeffrey-epsteins-accusers/1093318764 . _arrow Captain Chlamydia 5 hours ago remove link

Clear case. Epstein tricked men with capital into sex with minors. Had it all on tape.

Blackmail.

Forced them into investing into his firm or sell for ridiculous prices.

Then he ran with the money.

The more men were tricked, the mightier he became. Politicians, investment bankers, you name it.

The honey trap. Blackmail. Makes no sence otherwise. play_arrow 8 play_arrow VWAndy 5 hours ago remove link

Not possible without state backing. As proof look at the courts handling of it. play_arrow 5 play_arrow Captain Chlamydia 5 hours ago remove link

I did not say he worked alone.

It's standard Deep State protocol. play_arrow 8 play_arrow Berspankme 4 hours ago remove link

he had to have deep state backing or one the guys he blackmailed would have had him offed long ago
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Another reason I think Epstein is a dead man walking.

Here's another fun exercise. When do we get to the point that the same crew surrounding Epstein also filters into that Florida mess they barely covered up with the likes of Robert Kraft?

They're better than you... And that's what they are trying to tell you and codify. play_arrow 2 play_arrow Give Me Some Truth 5 hours ago remove link

Robert Kraft can be identified and charged. Bill Clinton or Prince Andrew or Tony Blair or the CEO of Google - nope.

If I was Kraft's attorneys, I'd be screaming "What the hell? Why is my client arrested and shamed and not these people?" play_arrow play_arrow darkstar7646 4 hours ago remove link

A question I've been asking since he was one of the first ones named! play_arrow play_arrow Occams_Razor_Trader_Part_Deux 4 hours ago remove link

For a tug job no less!

It all depends who your friends are- Kraft was a Trump supporter, go figure. play_arrow 1 play_arrow darkstar7646 2 hours ago remove link

I'm more concerned on why so many rich ***** were rooting around a place like that than the tug job -- especially with the caliber of women involved...
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We really should get the terms right. Having sex with a 14 year old is a crime, known as statutory rape under some jurisdictions. It's not paedophilia. Lusting after a 14 year old is also not paedophilia, which is reserved for pre-pubescent children. [E phebophilia refers to the sexual preference for mid-to-late adolescents, hebephilia refers to the sexual preference for earlier pubescent individuals, and paedophilia refers to the primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children .] Adapted from Wikipedopedia
3 play_arrow 1 FKTHEGVNMNT 5 hours ago remove link

More names-----& Juan Alessi, a long time Epstein household employee, has confirmed that Dershowitz visited Epstein "pretty often. I would say at least four or five times a year" and that he would "typically" stay two or three days. Similarly, Alfredo Rodriguez who worked for Epstein approximately only six months confirmed that during that six months period Dershowitz visited Epstein twice....... Find these ppl please, and do more than that.
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5 play_arrow Anunnaki 5 hours ago remove link

Rodriguez got more time in jail from stealing from Epstein then Epstein did for molesting underage girls.

play_arrow 5 play_arrow 1 FKTHEGVNMNT 5 hours ago remove link

Good sleuthing. More please play_arrow 3 play_arrow Anunnaki 4 hours ago remove link

https://newspunch.com/epsteins-butler-alfredo-rodriguez-who-stole-tell-all-black-book-dies-age-60/ play_arrow 1 play_arrow Occams_Razor_Trader_Part_Deux 4 hours ago remove link

And he died in prison. play_arrow 2 play_arrow

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Give Me Some Truth 5 hours ago remove link

Can one picture a scenario where Epstein DID tell the whole truth? Named all the names, all the activities, exactly what happened, all the blackmail, all the spy agencies involved, all the laundered money, all the officials who were bought off with his last pleas deal or went along with his "sweetheart" deal, all the people who looked the other way, etc.

Imagine for a moment how mind-blowing such a story probably would be. How many revered figures would be exposed as the most detestable people. How many businesses and government organizations would be exposed as shams.

I don't know. I find it hard to believe any high-level person in government would allow such a story be told to every person in the world.

In fact, after hearing such a story, some FBI agent would probably pause two seconds, and then shoot Epstein between the eyes.

He would later be given a medal ... for "protecting national security."

play_arrow 4 play_arrow Give Me Some Truth 5 hours ago remove link

This scenario also explains why the government doesn't want Epstein to "talk." They don't want to know. The more people who hear him talk, the more people who could tell this story.

Everyone assumes the government might offer Epstein a "deal" if he "talks." But that's the last thing they want to happen. One reason they won't offer him a deal.
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darkstar7646 5 hours ago remove link

Agreed, because it would probably implicate every economic, social, societal, political, business, sports, entertainment, etc. major player and expose that there is an initiation to the classic Carlin "Club" that you aren't a part of which involves such unspeakable acts (and means that the girls have the same initiation to any degree of real relevance in our society) in the name of "They're better than you." ay_arrow PKKA 5 hours ago remove link

I already said this, I absolutely do not understand why such a wave of indignation is coming? After all, everything is proceeding normally and consistently. Mr Epstein need to reward! For example, you need to make him a knight, like Sir Elton John. After all, pedophilia and pederasty, it is so fashionable now in the West. And right now a number of Western countries are in favor of the legalization of pedophilia. So sir knight pedophile Epstein fits perfectly into this fashionable concept. Don't forget to reward Prince Andrew. And Bill Clinton, in general, you need to reward as much as 2 times! And all pedophiles should now be welcomed and rewarded. y_arrow 1 SummerSausage 5 hours ago (Edited) remove link

I'm not defending Epstein - pedos deserve death - however there's one aspect of the story the news refuses to tell and it explains how he got away with being a pedo for all those years and why getting a conviction in 2007 was so tough.

Epstein selected poor girls. He paid them $200 for giving him a "massage" - even with no sex - and up to $1,000 if they let him do more. None of the girls interviewed said her raped or forced them. Then, he paid the girls $200 for each girl they brought. He insisted the girls know what they were getting into - no surprises.

Some of these girls came back for years.

You can see how a defense attorney would have torn these girls apart in 2007 and how a jury may have said "They were young but if they came back time and again they're just hookers. If they brought their friends to him for money they're guilty pimps."

This information is from the book "TrafficKing" by Conchita Saffron - a crusader against child sex trafficking and "Filthy Rich" by best seller and Palm Beach resident James Patterson. It's taken from the Palm Beach County police files and interviews with the girls. play_arrow Occams_Razor_Trader_Part_Deux 5 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Sex with a girl under age is rape- statutory rape.

An adult has an undue influence on a minor plain and simple, which may cause her to do something that she may not really want to do.

As for solicitation of a prostitute- the prostitute was 14!! That's not prostitution it's pedophilia.

But I get your point- it has a different feel then the Podesta brothers passing around an 8 year old boy to be 'abused'. lay_arrow 1 Give Me Some Truth 5 hours ago remove link

At least one girl did say he raped her.

Yes, he just "groomed" them. Probably had it down to a science. play_arrow 4 play_arrow SummerSausage 5 hours ago (Edited) remove link

He did have it down to a science. I'm not excusing his behavior - just explaining why getting a conviction would have been so difficult in 2006.

Remember that Hillary laughed about getting a rapist off that she KNEW was guilty. The girl he raped was 12 and he left her in a coma. Hillary told the judge she heard the girl was attracted to older men.

If Hillary got him acquitted by doing that, imagine hearing in 2006, that the girls were making more in an hour than the jury members made in a day and they kept going back.

Acosta said that kind of victim shaming would not be allowed now but it was common then.
1 play_arrow Anunnaki 5 hours ago remove link

Ghislaine Maxwell and the Marcincova gal played roles too. play_arrow 1 play_arrow 1 ed31337 5 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Even if we were to buy the story that the girls had no better means of support than hooking up with Epstein, the whole video taping high profile/powerful people having sex with underage girls/boys in order to blackmail those people into doing your bidding is still a heinous crime that needs prosecuting. For years, the population at large has seen people who rise to power suddenly flip-flop, propose and pass the most insane, corrupt, backhanded legislation with little excuse for why these people in power would do such things. If Epstein was pulling the strings behind the scenes using his powers of blackmail, that would explain a lot.
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I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just providing the whole picture so you'll understand why getting a conviction in 2007 was so dicey so having Epstein plead guilty, register forever as a sex offender and pay restitution to the girls was considered a "win".

It would have been a different story if Epstein raped every girl and threw her out the door. He was much smarter than that and compromised them to protect himself.

I hope everyone who had sex with any one of these girls is found out, stands trial and gets punished. ay_arrow Anunnaki 5 hours ago remove link

I read Filthy Rich. Dooshewitz harvested raunchy posts from the girls Myspace accounts and was gonna use that to destroy their credibility arrow 1 SummerSausage 5 hours ago remove link

Another reason why Acosta was so reluctant to put the girls on the stand. As he said, there would have been victim shaming. Their lives would have been publicly destroyed.

Getting Epstein to plead guilty, register and pay restitution was better for the girls. play_arrow 1 play_arrow Anunnaki 4 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Compounding the shame by having Epstein plead guilty of one count of soliciting prostitution. These victims weren't prostitutes. But they were children of "white trash" and Hispanic immigrants. Totally disposable.
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I concur with your argument. Think of the difference between a full sentence served in a tight, medium-security prison, under strict supervision, required to work, in gen pop, and the short stay, only there from sundown to sunup, private security detail setup Epstein was allowed to create last time he 'went to prison'.

As it is he's in a 10X10 unit 23.5 hours a day, with little hope of getting bail. Big comedown from Paris, eh sport? play_arrow ReflectoMatic 5 hours ago remove link

All those beautiful young people who flock to Hollywood year after year. Most of them get scooped up into this awful machine of carnage by "wolves" who walk the blvd and bus station looking for them. They get offers of modeling jobs and parts in movies, it's the gateway to hell. Old Phil Marx is probably long dead and gone by now, he was one of the very few who seeked out the worthy and opened doors of possibility in all directions. Thank-You Philsie, Rest in Peace.
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Giuffre alleged that Dershowitz knew about and participated in Epstein and Maxwell's sex trafficking operation, and, like Maria Farmer, was forced to have sex with Dershowitz and other wealthy men. She claims Dershowitz had sex with her while she was underage and working for Epstein. https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/alleged-epstein-victim-sues-alan-dershowitz-accuses-him-of-hiding-crimes-behind-a-curtain-of-lies/

Boom **** you CNN. FUCKIN PEDO LOVERS DIE DIE DIE!!! play_arrow 1 play_arrow Occams_Razor_Trader_Part_Deux 5 hours ago remove link

I think Dersho-shitz saw the writing on the wall and quit laying into the President on a daily basis. play_arrow 1 play_arrow SummerSausage 5 hours ago remove link

According to James Patterson's book "Filthy Rich" Guiffre was coached to implicate Dershowitz as part of a shakedown. She wanted $1 billion from Wexner (of The Limited & Victoria Secret and close friend of Epstein). She wanted to show Wexner the kind of publicity she could get against him if he didn't pay up. She was to get 1/3, her lawyers were to get 1/3 and a non-profit she set up (with her lawyers money) against sex trafficking would get 1/3.

Dershowitz was one of the attorneys who sued to get the records from 2007 unsealed when he was one of Epstein's lawyers. If he had sex with any of the girls - especially Guiffre who had been with Epstein for several years and who provided him with girls - she would have said so.

There's no doubt big names and wealthy people are being protected but in this case I think Dershowitz is being railroaded.

Guiffre was sexually abused as a child, lived on the streets and was sexually active before meeting Epstein. She's a victim of domestic abuse as well. Not the most stable. play_arrow 1 play_arrow Occams_Razor_Trader_Part_Deux 5 hours ago (Edited) remove link

You do mean James Patterson, the same James Patterson who took Bill Clinton under his wing and co-wrote books with him??

Hardly objective and/or trust worthy. play_arrow 1 play_arrow Anunnaki 5 hours ago remove link

The book is no whitewash. play_arrow 1 play_arrow 1 SummerSausage 5 hours ago remove link

Read the book and compare it to Sarnoff's. He did good, straight reporting on this book.

I hated that he co wrote with Clinton, too, but his book stands on its own. The facts and interviews mesh with the anti child sex advocate. play_arrow play_arrow Occams_Razor_Trader_Part_Deux 5 hours ago remove link

So what was likely a (c) Intelligence Agency- blackmail scheme- was being black mailed by the 15 year old, sounds unlikely and gratuitous play_arrow Mineshaft Gap 4 hours ago remove link

We'll know in good time (or we won't), but your thesis about Dershowitz being railroaded looks possible to me for a couple of reasons.

One, he's seen in liberal land as having betrayed the team over Trump. The knives are out, doubly so as the election season deepens and the Mueller hoax evaporates in an expensive mist.

Two, the failure of the legal system to stop the monster Epstein is creating one of those crises of faith in the hoi polloi.

These roll around whenever the official lies become so glaring that ordinary folk see through the mirages of justice. They begin to grumble, in their unapproved ways, that things just aren't on the level in the best of all possible nations.

To remedy this outbreak of clarity, the old playbook calls for sacrificing some scapegoats. There are easier scapegoats to find than Dershowitz, though, who isn't going to be easily led to the gallows. Hence the hapless Acosta.

This is taking place in an America coming apart at the seams culturally, with nothing certain about her future as we get further from any idea of being a nation that can agree on anything. If anything, the hall of mirrors is only growing longer. play_arrow play_arrow Occams_Razor_Trader_Part_Deux 3 hours ago remove link

"in an America coming apart at the seams culturally"

Not really just an illusion of unraveling by the committed Bolshevik media (who some say are all led by the (C) Intelligence Agency). Nothing easier to control then a divided populace. play_arrow play_arrow petroglyph 6 hours ago remove link

Any grown man with a 14 year old girl is in most cases wrong. The handlers Epstein and the bunch used knew the age and experience and maturity of these girls. I'm old now and don't want anything to do with any of it, and will say that 21 year olds look like little kids to me.

But, but one time when I was 21 I was dating a young lady for a few weeks, and we had drank and had sex, she spent the night and so forth. She lived with her sister. I was working construction and this gal and her sister were moving so I just loaned her my truck during the day, no problem as I had insurance. I never thought to ask if she had a drivers license as she had driven to my place a few times. This was a mature looking woman.

She and I were coming back from having dinner at a nice restaurant and we were both having drinks, several drinks. I was driving home and a cop pulled me over for a tail light out. He came to my window and asked for our ID's which we handed him, and he took them to his patrol car to run them. The gal next to me says, " I have to tell you something". And in my head I'm thinking what, warrants or something? She says, " I'm only 15". And I ******* near screamed nooooooooooooo, nooooooooooo. this can't be, look at you, the restaurant we were just drinking at never even thought of asking you for ID, we've been out to bars, dancing. Why in gods world did you keep that from me? Now I'll be going to pedo prison, god dammit, you just killed me.

The cop comes back to my window, hands us our ID's [hers was from Idaho, apparently at that time they could get dl's at 14?] and the cop says to me, " I think you better take her home". I said, I agree. It was like letting the air out of a dirigible, a long continuous psssssss, as the blood returned and my heart started beating again. I don't know how any 15 year old could look that mature, but no one ever even thought of asking her for ID. I was horrified. Never again, would I come close to making that mistake. But the truth is, I did. She was good in bed to, but it shrinks my **** if I even think of that moment. I was horrified, because what average, real, decent man wants to knowingly bed a 15 year old? Not me. My conscience haunted me for a few months afterward, knowing I had bedded a kid. But she didn't look like no kid I ever saw before. play_arrow Give Me Some Truth 5 hours ago remove link

If you read the story in the Miami Herald, Epstein was looking for girls that looked as young as possible. In fact when they got older, or if their breasts were "too developed," he got rid of them.

We've just heard of the girls his "recruiters" found in NY and Florida. Another part of this was he partnered up with a guy who had an "international modeling agency." These models, not from America, were often 12, 13, 14, 15.

And one doesn't have to use his imagination to figure out why a ranch in the middle of no where in New Mexico was so desirable as one of his compounds. play_arrow 1 play_arrow SummerSausage 5 hours ago remove link

You're correct but the girls were the primary suppliers of girls. According to their own testimony, they recruited their friends asking "do you want to make a lot of money" then they were told what they would have to do.

Not excusing Epstein or condoning in any way. Just informing that he had the system down pat. Yes, he invested $1 million in the modeling agency EM2 and brought in young girls with promises of modeling careers. But he also targeted poor American girls and paid $200 - $1,000 for sex and a $200 commission for every girl they brought to him. play_arrow 1 play_arrow Give Me Some Truth 5 hours ago remove link

No doubt, many (most) of the girls ended up going along. They voluntarily kept coming back.

The crime is that these were "girls." Easily manipulated and intimidated. If they were 18 or older, I guess all you could charge them with was prostitution and him with soliciting prostitutes.

Of course, he did "give" the girls to all his friends with orders to "give so and so what he wants." play_arrow play_arrow Occams_Razor_Trader_Part_Deux 5 hours ago remove link

Ray Chandler owned the modelling agency- short for Rachel, a chick. play_arrow makinbacon 4 hours ago remove link

Put myself through college driving school buses and occasionally a 13-teen year old girl would get on dressed like a hooker....

You be be hard pressed to guess she was under 20.

I would just look at her and say , " Parents are out of town huh? " ....Her reply , " Yep! " play_arrow 1 play_arrow Drop-Hammer 4 hours ago remove link

You are a goy with a conscience. A *** has no soul or conscience and has no consideration for goyim as people/human beings. Jews are sociopathic reptiles. play_arrow 1 play_arrow Give Me Some Truth 6 hours ago remove link

It's worth highlighting that the only reason the Palm Beach Police detectives presented their info to the FBI and the Feds, is that they had first presented it to state prosecutors, who suddenly stopped returning their calls and clearly weren't going to file charges against Epstein (at least all the charges that should have been filed).

So the Republican attorney, Acosta, and the Democratic State prosecutor, both wimped out and covered for Epstein and his associates.

But note how all the focus is only on Acosta, the Republican. play_arrow 2 play_arrow Ms No 6 hours ago remove link

The lights have been flipped on the evil. Its all there for anyone with functioning cognition, a soul or basic instincts.

The evil is exposed for exactly what and where it is. We have done our part and now its up to the world what they do. play_arrow 9 play_arrow 1
heads_and_thales 6 hours ago remove link

Connected with Abercrombie and Fitch founder? Shocker. play_arrow 5 play_arrow ReflectoMatic 5 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Wow! That is an amazing find.

"Once known for its sexualised ad campaigns, the company has toned down its imagery and no longer displays nearly nude models in their advertisements. According to then-chairman Arthur Martinez, these changes provide the hopes that the audience will see the company is evolving along with its consumers, and boost sales. [4] Abercrombie & Fitch is now targeting an older consumer, from ages 21 to 24

"Finally, in 1988, Oshman's sold the company name and operations to The Limited , a clothing-chain operator"

" L Brands, Inc. (formerly known as Limited Brands, Inc. and The Limited, Inc. ) is an American fashion retailer based in Columbus, Ohio.

"Its flagship brands include Victoria's Secret and Bath & Body Works . L Brands posted $12.63 billion in revenue in 2017..."

Of course, they have connections to modeling agencies for those children, and we know all about the "casting couch". play_arrow 1 play_arrow Give Me Some Truth 6 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Shouldn't this headline read: "Esptein's lack of Wall Street ties revealed"

For a billionaire "money manager" there's no evidence he's managing anyone's money. play_arrow 6 play_arrow Ms No 5 hours ago remove link

He is a front for Mossad and Rothschild banker fuckery. So is Soros.

Soros is just more overt about his activities making it more important that distance is perceived between entities. All they usually have to do is have Bibi and Soros say bad things about each other, because people are literally all that stupid.

Thank God murder detectives arent usually so easily thrown off or not one murder would ever be solved. play_arrow 9 play_arrow 1 gilhgvc 6 hours ago remove link

the connections between them???....THEY ARE PEDOPHILES, LIKE EPSTEIN. Trust me they may start with 16 yr olds, but they will eventually need more danger and excitement and they WILL move on to younger and younger kids...if you think this stopped at some runaway girls, you are a bigger idiot than Bernie Sanders play_arrow 3 play_arrow Ms No 5 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Epstein likes pre teens and teens. He certainly provided children. That will be more hidden because its more dangerous. Thats likely what the island is for. Cant wait to find out who provides security for island.

Epstein is tied to Clinton and Clinton is tied to child traffickers in Haiti after earthquake.

Mossad has long been known by many of us to be primary international player in child and organ trafficking. Just waiting for it to be spelled out to our dumb society by Anne Coulter and MSM, which means they will figure it out after the fact.

Clintons probably helped but would have liked to have replaced Epstein but they cant. They are just willing victims of leverage and not Jewish banking oligarchs, despite marrying-in their daughter. They could never be more. They rose as high as Goy can. Look what happened too. They got everybody caught. Epstein was noticed most because of Bill Clinton. play_arrow 6 play_arrow 1 deFLorable hillbilly 6 hours ago (Edited) remove link

You... can't even work a second job at $15/hr without it being immediately transparent to gov. God forbid you do a side job for cash.

How... can a known criminal of the worst sort hide and access at will 100's of millions of $$?

If this guy and all his "friends" fold away quietly into the night, then all is lost my fellow Americans.

A country ruled by sexual deviants/predators isn't worth defending.
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More poop to scoop, more names for y'all

Jane Doe #43 vs. Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, Sarah Kellen, Lesley Groff, and Natalya Malyshev, is the second pending civil lawsuit filed against Maxwell by a sex trafficked survivor.

Filed January 26, 2017,

northwoodssaveachild.blogspot.com
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Prosecutors DID name names in the Kraft case. One of the "Johns" was identified. Actually all of them were.

This happens in cities all the time when some undercover female police officers pose as prostitutes and then arrest about 20 "Johns" in one night. These people's names and photos are published in the newspaper and on websites. The entire idea is to shame these people, which presumably serves as a deterrent to other would-be customers.

One assumes the government could also name all the "Johns" in the Epstein case too, right? Who actually got "massages" from children?

Name them. Arrest them. Take their picture as a mug shot and publicize it.

But if you are Prince Andrew or Bill Clinton or Tony Blair or some Fortune 500 CEO or Alan Dershowitz you don't have to worry about such an outcome.

It's called "equal justice for all." play_arrow 2 play_arrow Moving and Grooving 3 hours ago remove link

+1 for not adding President Trump to the list. play_arrow play_arrow AAPL Slayer 6 hours ago remove link

Here's an idea,start hauling in every pilot every person that worked on any of these flights clear down to the mechanics it took to keep it faa legal including whoever recorded these flight logs they are all complicit they may as well have been driving the getaway car for a bank robbery and see what they have to say from a cell play_arrow 9 play_arrow 1 ToSoft4Truth 6 hours ago remove link

Trump shooting Epstein with a *** made Glock "in the middle of Fifth Avenue" would get my vote. play_arrow 2 play_arrow 1 Rusticus2.0 6 hours ago (Edited) remove link

I'm sure that option has been looked at.

Since Epstein hasn't suicided himself, one has to assume he's got an insurance policy . play_arrow 1 play_arrow 1 Give Me Some Truth 6 hours ago remove link

It would actually be great if Epstein talked and told all. Named names, gave details, etc.

Not that he's going to do this. Not that the government is even going to ask him to do this. They won't.

[Jul 12, 2019] Only if Rachel Maddow says it is

Jul 12, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Mah_Authoritah , 4 hours ago

Is it true that Epstein & Trump partied with 28 underage girls?

Anunnaki , 4 hours ago

Only if Rachel Maddow says it is

[Jul 12, 2019] Lock Him Up - The American Conservative

Essentially Epstein run a brothel for influential politicians and other stars. Girls were paid so they were hired prostitutes. That fact that he did it with impunity for so long suggest state sponsorship.
Notable quotes:
"... In fact, the case against Epstein seems so overwhelming that it's already been reported , albeit not confirmed, that his lawyers are seeking a plea bargain. Yet even if Epstein doesn't "flip," it's a cinch that many luminaries -- in politics, business, and entertainment -- will at least be named, if not outright inculpated. ..."
"... Yet perhaps the most aching parallel to Epstein is the NXIUM sex slave case, which has already led to guilty pleas and entangled not only Hollywood stars but also heirs to one of North America's great fortunes, the Bronfmans. ..."
"... In 1944, film legend Charlie Chaplin, too, found himself busted on a Mann Act rap. Chaplin was accused of transporting a young "actress" across state lines; he was acquitted after a sensational trial, but not before it was learned that he had financed his lover's two abortions. Chaplin's career in Hollywood was effectively over. ..."
"... In fact, if one takes all these horrible cases in their totality -- Varsity Blues, NXIUM, Epstein -- one might fairly conclude that the problem is larger than just a few rich and twisted nogoodniks. ..."
"... Hardly. It merely puts it into historical perspective. Epstein is but one of a long line of serial sexual predators through the ages. ..."
"... Biological parentage is no guarantee of virtue towards children. Predatory behaviour towards children is most likely to come from within the family. ..."
"... Bill Clinton had at least 26 international trips on Epstein's private plane, including 18 to Epstein's private Caribbean island, which was reportedly staffed with dozens of underage women, mostly from Latin America. It was referred to as "Orgy Island" or "Pedo Island" by the locals. ..."
"... I disagree show me where the Progressives have any morals after all look at Clinton. Even the so called fake republicans are guilty. Our country is in the toilet . The schools are hotbeds of moral decay teaching kids LGBT sex education etc. ..."
"... Marx himself understood, capitalism is a fundamentally chaotic, disruptive, even revolutionary force that destroys everything that conservatives value the most (and want to "conserve.") The free-market fundamentalism that so many conservatives accept as gospel truth really is nothing more than a "false consciousness." ..."
"... If ever a situation called for rendition, this is it. I've been following this since 2007, and my intuition tells many more important people are involved than those we know. ..."
"... Be very skeptical. Why is DOJ suddenly resurrecting a case that was settled 10 years ago? I can't help to wonder if this isn't yet another part of the coup attempt. ..."
"... Trump also gave other evidence and information he had gleaned to prosecutors during the first Epstien trial. ..."
"... We should point this out as often as possible because liberal media is trying to smear Trump by including his name next to Epstien in every article. ..."
Jul 12, 2019 | www.theamericanconservative.com

Jeffrey Epstein's trial may do what no other could: Bring populists and progressives together against predatory elites. By JAMES P. PINKERTON July 10, 2019

Jeffrey Epstein mugshot (public domain)

The legal proceedings against financier Jeffrey Epstein are going to be spectacular. The sober-minded New York Times is already running headlines such as "Raid on Epstein's Mansion Uncovered Nude Photos of Girls," describing the victims as "minors, some as young as 14." So, yes, this story is going to be, well, lit .

Epstein is the pluperfect "Great White Defendant," to borrow the phrase from Tom Wolfe's 1987 novel The Bonfire of the Vanities. In Epstein's case, even the left, normally indulgent on crime, is going to be chanting: lock him up.

In fact, the case against Epstein seems so overwhelming that it's already been reported , albeit not confirmed, that his lawyers are seeking a plea bargain. Yet even if Epstein doesn't "flip," it's a cinch that many luminaries -- in politics, business, and entertainment -- will at least be named, if not outright inculpated.

Which is to say, the Epstein case is shaping up as yet another lurid look at the lifestyles of the rich, famous, and powerful, sure to boil the blood of populists on the right and class warriors on the left. In this same vein, one also thinks of the "Varsity Blues" college admissions scandal, as well as the post-Harvey Weinstein #MeToo movement.

Yet perhaps the most aching parallel to Epstein is the NXIUM sex slave case, which has already led to guilty pleas and entangled not only Hollywood stars but also heirs to one of North America's great fortunes, the Bronfmans.

In that NXIUM case, it's hard not to notice the similarity between "NXIUM" and "Nexum," which was the ancient Roman word for personal debt bondage -- that is, a form of slavery.

The Romans, of course, were big on conquest and enslavement, and such aggression always had a sexual dimension, as has been the case, of course, for all empires, everywhere. Thus we come to a consistent theme across human history, namely the importation of pretty young things from the provinces for the lecherous benefit of the rich and powerful.

It's believed that Saint Gregory the Great, the pope in the late sixth and early seventh centuries, gazed upon English boys at a Roman slave market and remarked, non Angli, sed angeli, si forent Christiani ; that is, "They are not Angles, but angels, if they were Christian." Gregory's point was that such lovely beings needed to be converted to Christianity, although, of course, others had, and would continue to have, other intentions.

If we fast-forward a thousand years or so, we see another kind of enslavement, resulting, at least in part, from profound economic inequality. William Hogarth's famous prints , "A Harlot's Progress," follow the brief life of the fictive yet fetching Moll Hackabout, who comes from the provinces to London seeking employment as a seamstress -- only to end up as a kept woman, then as a prostitute, before dying of syphilis.

Interestingly, a traditional song about descent into earthly hell, "House of the Rising Sun," made popular again in the '60s , also makes reference to past honest work in the garment trade -- "my mother was a tailor."

If we step back and survey civilization's sad saga of exploitation, we see that it occurs under all manner of political and economic systems, from feudalism to capitalism to, yes, communism. As for ravenous reds, there's the notorious case of Stalinist apparatchik Lavrenti Beria, whom one chronicler says enjoyed "a Draculean sex life that combined love, rape, and perversity in almost equal measure."

In the face of such a distressing litany, it's no wonder that there have been periodic reactions, some of them violent and extreme, such as the original "bonfire of the vanities" back in the 15th century, led by the zealously puritanical cleric, Savonarola.

Yet for most of us, it's more cheering to think that prudential reform can succeed. One landmark of American reform was the White-Slave Traffic Act , signed into law in 1910 ("white slavery," we might note, is known today as "sex trafficking"). That law, aimed at preventing not only prostitution but also "debauchery," is known as the Mann Act in honor of its principal author, Representative James R. Mann, Republican of Illinois, who served in Congress from 1897 to 1922.

Mann's career mostly coincided with the presidential tenures of two great reformers, Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson. And it's hard to overstate just how central to progressive thinking was the combatting of "vice." After all, if the goal was to create a just society, it also had to be a wholesome society; otherwise no justice could be sustainable. Thus when Roosevelt served as police commissioner of New York City in the mid-1890s, he focused on fighting vice, rackets, and corruption.

Of course, Mann, Roosevelt, and Wilson had much more on their minds than just cleaning up depravity. They saw themselves as reformers across the board; that is, they were eager to improve economic conditions as well as social ones.

So it was that Mann also co-authored the Mann-Elkins Act , further regulating the railroads; he also spearheaded the Pure Food and Drug Act , creating the FDA. It's interesting that when Mann died in 1922, The New York Times ran an entirely admiring obituary , recalling him as "a dominating figure in the House [a] leader in dozens of parliamentary battles." In other words, back then, the Times was fully onboard with full-spectrum cleanup, on the Right as well as the Left.

To be sure, the Mann Act hardly eradicated the problem of sex-trafficking, just as Mann's other legislative efforts did not put an end to abuses in transportation and in foods and drugs. However, we can say that Mann made things better .

Of course, the Mann Act has long been controversial. Back in 1913, the African-American boxer Jack Johnson was convicted according to its provisions. (Intriguingly, in 2018, Johnson was posthumously pardoned by President Trump.)

In 1944, film legend Charlie Chaplin, too, found himself busted on a Mann Act rap. Chaplin was accused of transporting a young "actress" across state lines; he was acquitted after a sensational trial, but not before it was learned that he had financed his lover's two abortions. Chaplin's career in Hollywood was effectively over.

Cases such as these made the Mann Act distinctly unpopular in "sophisticated" circles. Of course, criticism from the smart set is not the same as proof that the law is not still valuable. That's why, more than a century after its passage, the Mann Act is still on the books, albeit much amended. Lawmakers agree that it's still necessary, because, after all, there's always a need to protect women from wolves .

Now back to Epstein. If we learn that he was actually running something called the "Lolita Express," that would be a signal that prosecutors have a lot of work to do, rounding up the pedophile joyriders. So it was interesting on July 6 to see Christine Pelosi, daughter of the House speaker, posting a stern tweet : "This Epstein case is horrific and the young women deserve justice. It is quite likely that some of our faves are implicated but we must follow the facts and let the chips fall where they may -- whether on Republicans or Democrats."

So we can see: the younger Pelosi wants one standard -- a standard that applies to all.

In fact, if one takes all these horrible cases in their totality -- Varsity Blues, NXIUM, Epstein -- one might fairly conclude that the problem is larger than just a few rich and twisted nogoodniks.

That is, the underlying issues of regional and social inequality -- measured in power as well as wealth -- must be addressed.

To put the matter another way, we need a bourgeoisie that is sturdier economically and more sure of itself culturally. Only then will we have Legions of Decency and other Schlafly-esque activist groups to function as counterweights to a corrosive and exploitative culture.

Of course, as TR and company knew, if we seek a better and more protective American equilibrium, a lot will have to change -- and not just in the culture.

Most likely, a true solution will have "conservative" elements, as in social and cultural norming, and "liberal" elements, as in higher taxes on city slickers coupled with conscious economic development for the proletarians and for the heartland. Only with these economic and governmental changes can we be sure that it's possible to have a nice life in Anytown, safely far away from beguiling pleasuredomes.

To be sure, we can't expect ever to solve all the troubles of human nature -- including the rage for fame that drives some youths from the boondocks. But we can at least bolster the bourgeois alternative to predatory Hefnerism.

In the meantime, unless we can achieve such structural changes, rich and powerful potentates will continue to pull innocent angels into their gilded dens of iniquity.

James P. Pinkerton is an author and contributing editor at . He served as a White House policy aide to both Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush.


SOL 2 days ago

"Most likely, a true solution will have "conservative" elements, as in social and cultural norming, and "liberal" elements, as in higher taxes on city slickers coupled with conscious economic development for the proletarians and for the heartland."

Neither of which will happen with the blue megacities having political control.

TruckFumpf SOL 2 days ago

Oh Lord.

Even after a thoughtful piece like this, here come the endlessly partisan hacks...

Xanthippe2 2 days ago

"(T)here's always a need to protect women from wolves." It should be noted that boys who are sex-trafficked also fall under the Mann Act. This may not be clear from Wikipedia.

LeeInWV 2 days ago

Wow! What a wonderful article! The compassion for the young victims just jumps off the screen along with the disgust at the corruption that has allowed this predator to damage so many lives over at least three decades.

No, the fact is that your dispassionate, detached, political assessment objectifies and dehumanizes the girls that were abused by Epstein and by the stupidly named "justice system" and reflects the obnoxious rot at the root of our society when it comes to the abuse of women and children.

When it comes right down to it, this doesn't really matter to you, it is just another political amusement.

disqus_t9AqZQH8T0 LeeInWV a day ago

Hardly. It merely puts it into historical perspective. Epstein is but one of a long line of serial sexual predators through the ages.

LeeInWV disqus_t9AqZQH8T0 a day ago

"Most likely, a true solution will have "conservative" elements, as in social and cultural norming, and "liberal" elements, as in higher taxes on city slickers coupled with conscious economic development for the proletarians and for the heartland. Only with these economic and governmental changes can we be sure that it's possible to have a nice life in Anytown, safely far away from beguiling pleasuredomes."

Liberal "social and cultural norming" (as in feminism, consent, discussion of sexual matters (gasp!) in the public sphere, #MeToo, etc.) is what is making a difference more because such things are encouraging victims and giving them support. The (cough) "justice" system needs reform so that rape kits get processed, victims are listened to instead of shamed, cases are actually investigated, rapists aren't let off because "he comes from a good family" etc. The Nevada Legislature with it's recent legislation is leading the way, because it has a female majority. THAT is what will change things FINALLY.

His "historical perspective" is just more of the same sh*t we have heard for millennia as are his prescriptions for solutions.

Eric 2 days ago

A key conclusion of the article is that Epstein and other recent scandals about the abuse of power mean "issues of regional and social inequality -- measured in power as well as wealth -- must be addressed."

So if all regions and all social classes were equal, this would go away? First, gifts have always been and will always be distributed unequally, so this egalitarian utopia will never be obtained -- leading to the indefinite justification "we have more work to do" to force people and society into an unattainable intellectual ideal, and justifying endless injustices in the process. Second, the article itself points out that the Soviets who ostensibly pursued an egalitarian state had a famous abuser among the ranks of their political bosses (and likely had others we don't known about).

Ultimately, kids are best cared for and defended in family with their biological parents -- the very unit of society that's been under unceasing attack for decades. Support the family and support small business which is responsible for something like 80% of new jobs created in the US. Then vigorously enforce the laws that are already on the books. A key problem with Epstein was the law was for years or decades not enforced against him, I strongly suspect because he had very highly placed political connections, probably several of which were sexually abusing young girls (and/or boys?) Epstein "introduced" them to. What amount of social engineering or experimentation is going to eliminate that kind of political corruption? I highly doubt any will. Once it's discovered, everyone involved should be prosecuted and exposed -- and any other cases of sex slavery rings discovered in the process likewise have all their members prosecuted & exposed.

kalendjay Eric 2 days ago

Lavrenti Beria as the prescient symbol of Soviet Babbitry v. worldwide immorality! So was Ernst Rohm! Thank god for the KGB and SS as harbingers of true moral concern over sex abuse!

Stephen Ede Eric a day ago

"Ultimately, kids are best cared for and defended in family with their biological parents "

LMAO. Historically the family and biologoical parents were part and parcel in many of the deals involved with these trades.

Biological parentage is no guarantee of virtue towards children. Predatory behaviour towards children is most likely to come from within the family. I can't remember the family name but there was a family that made a big thing of their "Proper Christian Family" even while one son was abusing his younger sister/s and the Parents protected and shielded him.

I'll pass on that "protection" thank you.

JeffK from PA 2 days ago

"In Epstein's case, even the left, normally indulgent on crime, is going to be chanting: lock him up." - You almost lost me on that one. The Left is not normally 'indulgent on crime'. However, The Left is resistant to making 'immorality' (pot smoking, sodomy, gambling, gay marriage, etc) criminal, given how driving 'vice' underground and making it illegal has unintended consequences (such as creating the mafia and Latin American drug cartels) that are worse than 'the crime', but I decided to read on.

"That is, the underlying issues of regional and social inequality -- measured in power as well as wealth -- must be addressed." - All in for that one. Glad to see your 'wokeness'. Please send a check to Bernie.

"In the meantime, unless we can achieve such structural changes, rich and powerful potentates will continue to pull innocent angels into their gilded dens of iniquity" - Like Donald Trump, Roger Ailes, Roy Moore, David Vitter, Dennis Hastert, Chris Collins, Duncan Hunter, Michael Grimm, and on and on.

The Democrats have shown they are more than willing to ostracize members of their own team (Al Franken) for alleged and actual wrongdoing. The Republicans, not so much, since they usually overlook all kinds of deviance if a politically expedient. Such as Tim Murphy from PA and Scott DesJarlais from TN, both married 'anti-abortion' zealots caught urging their mistresses to have abortions.

Sid Finster JeffK from PA 2 days ago • edited

"The Democrats have shown they are more than willing to ostracize members of their own team (Al Franken) for alleged and actual wrongdoing."

Like Bill Clinton. The same Team D Wokemon champions who insisted that any form of sexual or romantic contact between a male supervisor and a female subordinate was by definition sexual harassment suddenly changed their tune when Bill Clinton was the supervisor.

Not only that, but they came up with the most hilarious tortured redefinitions of "perjury" in order to justify their hero.

For the record: I am not a Team R fan either, but I am not so naive as to think the problem is limited to one team.

JeffK from PA Sid Finster 2 days ago

It is not. Bill Clinton was a cad. No doubt. But I find it very interesting that Juanita Broaddick recanted her allegations against Clinton when Ken Starr put her under oath.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

kalendjay JeffK from PA 2 days ago

The only outrage Democrats will actually express over Epstein is to again tar and feather Trump in the usual fashion: Nibble at the toes of hapless political operatives and bureaucrats like Acosta, and then accuse the President of colluding in his own purported ignorance and self-enrichment.

SirMagpieDeCrow1 2 days ago • edited

There is an elephant in the room I think many conservatives are ignoring right now. A real big one...

"President Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein, the 66-year-old hedge fund manager charged this week with sex trafficking and conspiracy to commit sex trafficking, were the only other attendees to a party that consisted of roughly two dozen women at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida, according to a New York Times report."

"In 1992, the women were reportedly flown in for a "calendar girl" competition that was requested by Trump, The Times said.

"At the very first party, I said, 'Who's coming tonight? I have 28 girls coming,'" former Trump associate George Houraney reportedly said. "It was him and Epstein."

"I said, 'Donald, this is supposed to be a party with VIPs. You're telling me it's you and Epstein," he recalled saying."

"Houraney claimed to have warned Trump about Epstein's behavior and said the real estate tycoon did not heed his notice. Houraney, a businessman, reportedly said Trump "didn't care" about how he had to ban Epstein from his events."

https://www.businessinsider...

EliteCommInc. SirMagpieDeCrow1 2 days ago

This is an old elephant. It raised its head during the campaign and did not make much in the way of waves. Will it come back to bite the president today -- one hopes that its all rumor hearsay and gossip.

I am willing to grant that the president may have been a "masher" in his day. Whether that means relations with children is another matter.

Hunt Miller SirMagpieDeCrow1 2 days ago

Bill Clinton had at least 26 international trips on Epstein's private plane, including 18 to Epstein's private Caribbean island, which was reportedly staffed with dozens of underage women, mostly from Latin America. It was referred to as "Orgy Island" or "Pedo Island" by the locals.

Guy Person Hunt Miller 2 days ago

One is a retired politician. The other is the current POTUS. If Bill is guilty, lock him up. If Trump is guilty - we need to know ASAP and he can no longer be the president.

SirMagpieDeCrow1 2 days ago

If Jeffery Epstein is such a monster then what is one to make of a man who has been quoted as saying "You can do what ever you want, grab them by the *****." and then during a presidential debate shamelessly state "I have great respect for women. Nobody has more respect for women than I do."?

Sid Finster SirMagpieDeCrow1 2 days ago

Distasteful at best, and I am being charitable, but neither statement is a crime.

FWIW, I am not a trump fan.

IntelliWriter Sid Finster 2 days ago

How about the rape and assault allegations?

EliteCommInc. SirMagpieDeCrow1 2 days ago

Laughing good grief --- First I have to get passed the suggestion that guys bragging nonsensically about their female conquests is the same hiring teens to for relations.

Good grief . . . these types of issues are ripe for hysterics.

excuse my politically incorrect suggestion of making the categorical distinctions

dukielouie 2 days ago

I disagree show me where the Progressives have any morals after all look at Clinton. Even the so called fake republicans are guilty. Our country is in the toilet . The schools are hotbeds of moral decay teaching kids LGBT sex education etc. Cultural Marxism is at play and next they will soften up and normalize pedophile. As far as the women's movement they are bitter progressives who on there Facebook moaning about how they make less money then men. Who is taking of the kids? There are no real men any more they have become boys!! Sex is every where and no one cares they all going along with the new world order!

FVCKDEPLORABLES dukielouie 2 days ago

You forgot to mention our current thrice divorced President who cheats on his wife with porn stars and pays them to stay quiet. Strong moral leadership....

Hank Linderman 2 days ago

Let the chips fall where they may, without limit, without special deals: expose them all.

Bill In Montgomey Hank Linderman 18 hours ago

If this happened, my faith in the "rule of law" and in prosecutors and law enforcement treating everyone equally might be restored. But, alas, we all know this is not going to happen.

Connecticut Farmer 2 days ago

"...the younger Pelosi wants one standard -- a standard that applies to all."

Don't we all. But if history teaches us anything it teaches that the higher up the socioeconomic food chain we go, the more "flexible" that standard becomes.

So we'll see about Epstein--and all the other big shots who were in on this debauch.

Snikkerz Connecticut Farmer a day ago

"...the younger Pelosi wants one standard -- a standard that applies to all."

Does she want that single standard to apply to people that flaunt our laws by having, say, a clandestine and illegal email server that was used for classified correspondence?

SatirevFlesti 2 days ago

Mr. Pinkerton apparently (like many) needs to learn what the definition of pedophile is (hint: It's doesn't mean any and all sex under he legal age of consent). However illegal (to say nothing of distasteful and immoral) Epstein's actions may have been, based on the claims I've seen, he is not a pedophile.

I also find it hard to believe that Clinton and others didn't know. Rumours of Epstein's proclivities, and his plane being called "Lolita Express," have been around for along-time, but Epstein has been protected by his connections and wealth. Clinton flew nearly 30 times on Epstein's private jet. Is he the only person in the world who never heard the stories about him? What did he know and when did he know it?

JonF311 SatirevFlesti 2 days ago • edited

If you're asking that question about Clinton- a 90s has-been politician whose own party has moved on past him, then I hope you're also asking it about the current president who was also a bosom buddy to Epstein.

Hunt Miller JonF311 2 days ago • edited

According to flight manifests, Trump flew one time, from New York to Palm Beach, on Epstein's plane. Clinton took at least 26 international trips on the Lolita Express, including 18 trips to Epstein's private Caribbean island, where he supposedly had dozens of underage women from Latin America kept. The locals referred to it at 'Orgy Island" and "Pedo Island". We're not exactly comparing apples to apples here, are we?

polistra24 2 days ago

Nope, won't bring anyone together.

Compare the Mueller soap opera. The characters in that story were sleazy international fixers and blackmailers who worked for everyone. Same type as Epstein. They worked for KGB, CIA, Clinton, Trump, Mossad, Saudi. Despite the universality of the crimes, Mueller meticulously "saw" only the crimes that involved Trump and Russia. FBI always works that way. Any accusation or evidence that doesn't fit the predefined story disappears.

Same thing will happen here.

u.r.tripping polistra24 2 days ago

Like the film Shooter- "Maybe I should wait for your report before I remember".

JonF311 polistra24 a day ago

Muller had a specific investigatory mission. He was not empowered to look into every government scandal since Alexander Hamilton was blackmailed by Maria Reynolds.

FL_Cottonmouth 2 days ago • edited

Part of what doomed the post-WWII "Right" was the "fusionism" between conservatism and capitalism. While the latter got real policy results, the former was merely pandered to during elections but otherwise ignored. As a result, leftists and centrists mistakenly came to believe that being "right-wing" means being a corporate shill lobbying to cut taxes for the rich and pay for it by cutting programs for the poor.

At the same time, as Marx himself understood, capitalism is a fundamentally chaotic, disruptive, even revolutionary force that destroys everything that conservatives value the most (and want to "conserve.") The free-market fundamentalism that so many conservatives accept as gospel truth really is nothing more than a "false consciousness."

A recent essay in Law & Liberty summarizes the contradictions at the heart of fusionism:

Many traditionalists (such as Russell Kirk) resisted fusionism for placing too much emphasis on markets and not enough on the conservative commitment "to religious belief, to national loyalty, to established rights in society, and to the wisdom of our ancestors." And many libertarians (such as F.A. Hayek) explicitly rejected conservatism for being too nationalistic and hostile toward open systems.

If conservatives want any political future in this country, then they're going to have to "de-fuse," so to speak, with capitalism, which has been exploiting their support in order to advance policies against their own interests and values. If "Woke Capitalism" isn't the final straw, then what will it take? Conservatives could learn a lot from the Progressive Movement of the 1890s-1920s, which despite its name was far more conservative than the David-Frenchist National Review is nowadays. Indeed, the Progressives' reformist playbook (which recognized that the rapid changes brought by industrialization, immigration, and urbanization had caused corruption, poverty, and vice) could and should be dusted off for today.

As far as Epstein goes, I'm rather pessimistic that he'll ever be punished and that the public will ever learn the full extent of his crimes. While Nancy Pelosi's daughter may be principled (and good for her), the fact that so many wealthy and powerful people may be incriminated is precisely why he'll be let off easy and the evidence will be covered up, just like last time. I have zero confidence in our justice system, particularly in the hyper-politicized SDNY.

u.r.tripping 2 days ago • edited

If ever a situation called for rendition, this is it. I've been following this since 2007, and my intuition tells many more important people are involved than those we know. Anyone involved would be terrified; they'll have to break someone to get the facts. As someone who was almost abducted at age 9, I say get on it.

Steve Coats 2 days ago

The problem is men behaving badly.

Sid Finster Steve Coats a day ago

Ghislaine Maxwell is a dude, too?

Jake Jones 2 days ago

Be very skeptical. Why is DOJ suddenly resurrecting a case that was settled 10 years ago? I can't help to wonder if this isn't yet another part of the coup attempt.

Millie Vanilli Jake Jones 2 days ago

There was a lawsuit by Mike Cernovich to unseal the court records which was granted by the judge. That' why he was arrested

JonF311 Jake Jones a day ago

Knart may be moribund, but someone found a blue light special on tinfoil hats.

Maddock631 2 days ago

Twisted sisters will do what they do with or without social disparities. All you can do is bury them when you catch them. If the rich and famous get caught up, no ones fault but their own.

jimbino 2 days ago

The Mann Act mainly served to enforce Roman Catholic ideas about marriage's being somehow special. The Bible offers no such thing as an example of a religious marriage, whether Muslim, Catholic or Protestant, unless it be that of Job.

JonF311 jimbino a day ago

So Protestants and atheists are A-OK with shanghaing young girls into prostitution?

Sid Finster 2 days ago

(Unfortunately) there is no such thing as law. There is only context.

https://nypost.com/2018/12/...

kalendjay 2 days ago

You expect a free pass for this term paper theory that downright American types are going to unite to stop sexual predation, and their brains will swirl with reminiscences of St. Gregory and Sen. Mann?

I am unaware that Chaplin's career was "effectively over" after his sex trial. Chaplin made "Monsieur Verdoux" in 1947 in good time after the modern Bluebeard of France, Marcel Petiot made headlines (this predator swindled Jews of safe passage money out of France, poisoned them, and burned their bodies in his home. No time of reckoning for France or Francophiles here). Five years later he released "Limelight", which could be called a loving tribute to vaudeville and silent film at the same time (Buster Keaton appeared, and it is said that many omitted segments were his finest hour in the sound era. Note that financially and at box office, Keaton was as ruined and burned out as countless others, but was in the end a hard working trouper who even made it to Samuel Beckett!). Chaplin flagged thereafter, but made films at exactly the pace he wished, as characterized by the slow linger from "Modern Times" to "The Great Dictator".

Errol Flynn on the other hand was boosted by his sex scandal as alleged with a 15 year old. His release "They Died With Their Boots On" made reference to the allegation that Flynn was naked except for a pair of boots. And remember the original Hollywood Confidential scandal that rounded up dozens of celebrities including Lizbeth Scott in a prostitution ring? All forgotten.

So if your going to make big analogies between Hollywood, celebrity, and yet another paroxysm of soon to evaporate Puritan righteousness, at least know what you're talking about.

For the record, I believe that if Epstein punched 8 years above his weight in his choice of femmes, he might never have been caught.

Edgar Lane 2 days ago

The article is way to long and I read the first paragraph and after the words "The sober-minded New York Times" I jumped to the comments. The headline was enough for me...I agree, Lock Him Up.

CapitalistRadical a day ago

Trump was a hero here. When Epstien was making inappropriate advances to young girls Mar a Lago, Trump kicked him out and banned him for life.

Trump also gave other evidence and information he had gleaned to prosecutors during the first Epstien trial.

We should point this out as often as possible because liberal media is trying to smear Trump by including his name next to Epstien in every article.

[Jul 12, 2019] no title

Notable quotes:
"... Bear Stearns -- the bank that had given Mr. Epstein his start -- was still among his investments when the crisis hit. According to a lawsuit he later filed against the bank, Mr. Epstein controlled about 176,000 shares of Bear Stearns, worth nearly $18 million, in August 2007. ..."
"... Mr. Epstein sold 56,000 shares at $101 each that month. He sold the remaining 120,000 shares in March 2008 as the firm was collapsing -- 20,000 at $35 and the rest at $3.04, losing big. He also lost about $50 million in one of Bear's hedge funds. ..."
"... By the time Bear Stearns came apart, Mr. Epstein was at the center of his first abuse case. He pleaded guilty to prostitution charges in 2008, receiving a jail sentence that allowed him to work at home during the day but also required him to register as a sex offender ..."
"... The court document alleges: "Epstein also sexually trafficked the then-minor Jane Doe (a name used in US legal proceedings for people with anonymity), making her available for sex to politically connected and financially powerful people. ..."
"... "Epstein's purposes in 'lending' Jane Doe (along with other young girls) to such powerful people were to ingratiate himself with them for business, personal, political, and financial gain, as well as to obtain potential blackmail information. ..."
"... Journalist George Webb, watch his Youtube channel, has been following Epstein 'activities' for decades, connecting him all the way back to the Bush Sr. and Jr. Boys Town White House peadophile ring. Epstein was the 'go to guy' for rat line trafficking missions, into Kosovo, Sudan, Somalia, Ethiopia, every war zone across the world one can think of, to move dark ops in and out of, closely linked to DynCorp, which core business is 'aviation security services' and infamous for enabling and promoting underage transgressions of all of its personnel in Yugoslavia where Bill Clinton has murdered many thousands unbeknownst to the gullible and rather retarded Americuh public ..."
Jul 11, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Jeffrey Epstein's wealth has long been a topic of discussion since becoming known as a 'billionaire pedophile' and other similar monickers. Described by prosecuitors this week as a "man of nearly infinite means," a 2011 SEC filing has provided a window into the registered sex offender's elite Wall Street links, according to the Financial Times .

Epstein, who caught a lucky break tutoring the son of Bear Stearns chairman Alan Greenberg before joining the firm, left the investment bank in 1981 to set up his own financial firm. While he reportedly managed money for billionaires for decades, most of Epstein's dealings have been done in the shadows.

A 2011 SEC filing reveals that Epstein's privately held firm, the Financial Trust Company , took a 6.1% stake in Pennsylvania-based catalytic converter maker Environmental Solutions Worldwide (ESW) backed by Leon Black, the billionaire founder of Apollo Global Management .

ESW itself has a checkered past. In 2002, its then-chairman Bengt Odner was accused by the SEC of participating with others in a $15 million "pump and dump" scheme with ESW stock. The case was settled a year later according to FT , with Odner ordered to pay a $25,000 civil penalty. Of note, ESW accepted Epstein's investment several years after he had registered as a sex offender in a controversial 2008 plea deal in Florida.

Epstein's connection to Black doesn't stop there - as the financier served as a director on the Leon Black Family Foundation for over a decade until 2012 according to IRS filings. A spokeswoman for the foundation claims that Epstein had resigned in July 2007, and that his name continued to appear on the IRS filings "due to a recording error" for five years. A 2015 document signed by Epstein provided to the Financial Times appears to confirm this.

Epstein also built his wealth with Steven J. Hoffenberg and Leslie H. Wexner, the former of whom was convicted of running a giant Ponzi scheme, and the latter a clothing magnate.

Mr. Epstein's wealth may have depended less on his math acumen than his connections to two men -- Steven J. Hoffenberg, a onetime owner of The New York Post and a notorious fraudster later convicted of running a $460 million Ponzi scheme , and Leslie H. Wexner, the billionaire founder of retail chains including The Limited and the chief executive of the company that owns Victoria's Secret.

Mr. Hoffenberg was Mr. Epstein's partner in two ill-fated takeover bids in the 1980 s, including one of Pan American World Airways, and would later claim that Mr. Epstein had been part of the scheme that landed him in jail -- although Mr. Epstein was never charged. With Mr. Wexner, Mr. Epstein formed a financial and personal bond that baffled longtime associates of the wealthy retail magnate, who was his only publicly disclosed investor. - New York Times

"I think we both possess the skill of seeing patterns," Wexner told Vanity Fair in 2003. "But Jeffrey sees patterns in politics and financial markets, and I see patterns in lifestyle and fashion trends."

Those around Wexner were mystified over Wexner's affinity for Epstein.

" Everyone was mystified as to what his appeal was ," said Robert Morosky, a former vice chairman of The Limited. "I checked around and found out he was a private high school math teacher, and that was all I could find out. There was just nothing there."

As the New York Times noted on Wednesday, Epstein's "infinite means" may be a mirage, as while he is undoubtedly extremely rich, there is "little evidence that Mr. Epstein is a billionaire."

While Epstein told potential clients he only accepted investments of $1 billion or more, his investment firm reported having $88 million in capital from his shareholders, and 20 employees according to a 2002 court filing - far fewer than figures being reported at the time.

And while most of Epstein's dealings are unknown, his Financial Trust Company also had a $121 million investment in DB Zwirn & Co, which shuttered its doors in 2008, and had a stake in Bear Stearns's failed High-Grade Structured Credit Strategies Enhanced Leverage Fund - the collapse of which helped spark the global financial crisis.

Epstein was hit hard by the financial crisis a decade ago, while allegations of sexual abuse of teenage girls caused many associates - such as Wexner - to sever ties with him.

Bear Stearns -- the bank that had given Mr. Epstein his start -- was still among his investments when the crisis hit. According to a lawsuit he later filed against the bank, Mr. Epstein controlled about 176,000 shares of Bear Stearns, worth nearly $18 million, in August 2007.

Mr. Epstein sold 56,000 shares at $101 each that month. He sold the remaining 120,000 shares in March 2008 as the firm was collapsing -- 20,000 at $35 and the rest at $3.04, losing big. He also lost about $50 million in one of Bear's hedge funds.

By the time Bear Stearns came apart, Mr. Epstein was at the center of his first abuse case. He pleaded guilty to prostitution charges in 2008, receiving a jail sentence that allowed him to work at home during the day but also required him to register as a sex offender. - New York Times

In trying to determine what Epstein is actually worth, Bloomberg notes that " So little is known about Epstein's current business or clients that the only things that can be valued with any certainty are his properties. The Manhattan mansion is estimated to be worth at least $ 77 million , according to a federal document submitted in advance of his bail hearing."

He also has properties in New Mexico, Paris and the U.S. Virgin Islands, where he has a private island, and a Palm Beach estate with an assessed value of more than $12 million . He shuttles between them by private jet and has at least 15 cars, including seven Chevrolet Suburbans, according to federal authorities. - Bloomberg

Deutsche Bank, meanwhile, severed ties with Epstein earlier this year - right as federal prosecutors were preparing to charge him with operating a sex-trafficking ring of underage girls out of his sprawling homes in Manhattan and Palm Beach, according to Bloomberg , citing a person familiar with the situation. It is unknown how much money was involved or how long Epstein had been a client.
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FKTHEGVNMNT , 1 hour ago

That black book is still missing, it is actually a meticulous journal. His butler who died at 60 due to mesothelioma kept it as insurance, those snippets was just him saying " I got the goods.

Dr.Strangelove , 1 hour ago

The Feds should do what they did with Al Capone, and put him in the slammer on tax evasion charges. I'm sure Epstein has reported all of his ill gotten billions to the IRS tax man.....NOT.

CheapBastard , 43 minutes ago

I wonder how many human assets, aka, slave girls, he owns? I guess they could value the slave child based on how much revenue they brought in.

FKTHEGVNMNT , 2 hours ago

The court document alleges: "Epstein also sexually trafficked the then-minor Jane Doe (a name used in US legal proceedings for people with anonymity), making her available for sex to politically connected and financially powerful people.

"Epstein's purposes in 'lending' Jane Doe (along with other young girls) to such powerful people were to ingratiate himself with them for business, personal, political, and financial gain, as well as to obtain potential blackmail information.

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Prince+Andrew+underage+sex+claim+denied+by+Palace%3B+Palace+denies+...-a0395804374

truthordare , 3 hours ago

I wonder if Prince Andrew has deleted him from Facebook

marcel tjoeng , 3 hours ago

Journalist George Webb, watch his Youtube channel, has been following Epstein 'activities' for decades, connecting him all the way back to the Bush Sr. and Jr. Boys Town White House peadophile ring. Epstein was the 'go to guy' for rat line trafficking missions, into Kosovo, Sudan, Somalia, Ethiopia, every war zone across the world one can think of, to move dark ops in and out of, closely linked to DynCorp, which core business is 'aviation security services' and infamous for enabling and promoting underage transgressions of all of its personnel in Yugoslavia where Bill Clinton has murdered many thousands unbeknownst to the gullible and rather retarded Americuh public.

Trafficking underage girls from Ukraine back and forth to the USA to pimp out to every diplomat from every country that bought and sold state secrets, flying underage girls to the Middle East to peddle to oil sheiks, involved with obtaining and exchanging state secrets of for instance American DARPA, the top secret military research giant, to any 'diplomat' connected to the secretive network of an 'Illuminati' type deep state collusion, the power brokers of war and sex.

The Irgun of Menachem Begin, the Mossad of Moshe Dayan were infamous for their poolside parties where all the jewish female 'pretty' Israeli agents were used and trained to be honey pot sex objects, with mandatory sex orgies that lasted for days, the worst of a James Bond type environment but without the glitter.

on the contrary, the secret world of parasites that practice and trade in massive scale rape, war, torture, sex aberrations, ***********, blackmail, extortion, paedophilia, child trafficking, international orphan trafficking, drugs, trafficking underage sex slaves to be used as dolls and much much worse,

that is who is Jeffrey Epstein is.

The front cover of rape, murder and mayhem international Inc., the go-to-boy of sick Wall Street, Washington DC, the CIA, NSA, Dyncorp, the power brokers within the DNC and the GOP,

all the usual sick subjects whose code mantra is 'we have unlimited funding', which means the FED, Wall Street, the BIS, the whole of the Central Bank System that originated in Europe in Venice, and then spread to Amsterdam, the Dutch House of Orange, London, New York, the British paedophile Empire,

all of these a lot worse than just scum.

ReflectoMatic , 2 hours ago

Epstein's Zoro Ranch in New Mexico, where the military brass, MIC, and West Coast celebrities party

Epstein lives in what is reputed to be the largest private dwelling in New Mexico, on an $18 million, 7,500-acre ranch which he named Zorro.

Jeffrey Epstein's palatial New Mexico home is relatively near to a top military base. The Epstein home is in Stanley in New Mexico.

Albuquerque now has a variety of Jewish synagogues and a Chabad house.

Mossad sex party, according to former Mossad case officer Victor Ostrovsky

There were about 25 people in and around the pool and none of them had a stitch of clothing on.

The second-in-command of the Mossad -- today, he is the head -- was there.

Hessner. Various secretaries. It was incredible. Some of the men were not a pretty sight, but most of the girls were quite impressive. I must say they looked much better than they did in uniform! Most of them were female soldiers assigned to the office, and were only 18 or 20 years old.

Some of the partiers were in the water playing, some were dancing, others were on blankets to the left and the right having a fine old time vigorously screwing each other right there...

It was the top brass all right, and they were swapping partners. It really shook me. That's sure not what you expect. You look at these people as heroes, you look up to them, and then you see them having a sex party by the pool.

-- Ostrovsky, Victor, By Way of Deception, (1990), pg. 96

ReflectoMatic , 2 hours ago

Because what George Webb is saying is so important in expanding the scope of understanding what is going on: George Webb on youtube

JSBach1 , 3 hours ago

Researcher Wayne Madsen: Trump's Connection to Epstein Needs to Be Exposed

https://youtu.be/w7bIi04y0aY

Give Me Some Truth , 3 hours ago

I think that's the main point. No real investigation can take place. Too dangerous if too many people learned what's been happening.

They've got enough to lock Epstein away and keep him somewhere where he can't talk.

It's kind of like Assange is no danger as long as he is locked up (even in a prison on in a room in an Embassy).

FKTHEGVNMNT , 3 hours ago

Epstein's chief pilot Larry Visoski, 54, has admitted he knew minors were being flown on his boss' plane but said he never suspected him of having sex with them "with a bed in the plane????". www.thefreelibrary.com/Pilot+who+flew+young+girls+and+VIPs+for+Andrew%27s+paedo+pal%3B+AS+PRINCE...-a0397002208

guy has a kid too

Golden Showers , 7 minutes ago

I like Miles' work a lot, but I don't always agree with the results of his studies. There are a great many fabricated events. Events like those are cover for other very real events. The clowns will fake (or real) blow up townships just to prevent a case from going to trial or getting news feed, OKC comes to mind. And there's always more than one reason for it behind the BS cover story. It's tactical. Ep is just another arm of the octopus: Ep is definitely a middle man, a bag man, a front man, an intel asset (for several agancies no doubt) and he got his cover job as a "financier" along with a client that got rich selling women's underwear and kids clothes as whitewash. A guy who wrote a paper on how America perceives Israel and how to influence that perception. That is the definition of magic and it's intel.

Ep definitely uses his own product... He had to be sure he could bounce those children off his clients, for one. Years of grooming, investing in an asset, categorizing each one. It's an industry, for sure. I don't think the numbers are fabricated. I don't think his black book was fabricated. Bloomberg was in there, btw, along with Bronfman, and Murdoch. The remoteness of 7500 acres in New Mexico, an Island, the planes, all neon signs that say "SECRET". But, you have to recruit from large population areas to find suitable victims, er, individuals. I think it's more likely that this is real world and not a manufactured event.

Look: there are theories. I collect theories. Miles is a great researcher and he makes distinctions and observations that are all very good. Reading him, I throw a lot of theories and music and vomit in the trash after. But when you peel back all the fake events... the "Kansas"... One day Kansas is gone. Once and for all. What's left is this: there's some very real **** on the down-low going on that has, until now, been permitted and some people who liked it that way are gonna be on the news for it. Pelosi's kid tweeted it. What about, say, what might a sheriff of a certain New Mexico county know? Santa Fe is totally compromised because it's an "Art" hub, for one. The unincorporated location is called "Stanley" which ought to ring bells. Right by a military base, Kirtland and Los Alamos Demo Army base, god knows what else. It's the perfect M.O. of the fake events Miles writes about. Miles sees patterns.

There is everything that is not real, and then there is everything that is real. For me it comes down to the Cartesian Brain in a Vat theory, that, indeed, is "the Matrix" pop culture go-to of today, err, 20 years ago. Red pilled means you can't go back. Get blue pilled you Get woke and go broke. It doesn't mean that everything is fake, but for all I know 2012 was real and we live on this timeline now and maybe I am a brain in a vat. So cogito ergo sum. And that is kind of a statement of faith or belief. It's the deep irony of philosophy. It's the glitch.

Ep is not the psyop. He's the guy you do the psyop to cover up. It's a better question to ask what generation MK Ultra are we on? What subset? What might Cathy O'Brien have to say about it? Don't flame the victims, or make Miles look stupid because you think it's all fake. Andrew Breitbart didn't think this **** was fake and he's dead. God bless him.

Theosebes Goodfellow , 3 hours ago

~Those around Wexner were mystified over Wexner's affinity for Epstein.~

Apparently those around Wexner were not familiar with the term "fourteen year-old spinner".

Lumberjack , 3 hours ago

...

Dershowitz was one of several heavy-hitters on Epstein's first legal defense team. Epstein's lead attorney in the Florida case was Jack Goldberger, who now represents New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft. His legal team also included Roy Black, Jay Lefkowitz, Gerald Lefcourt, former U.S. Attorney Guy Lewis and Kenneth Starr, the special prosecutor who investigated Bill Clinton's sexual affair with Monica Lewinsky.

Asked why he took Epstein as a client, given the unsavory nature of his alleged crimes, Dershowitz stated bluntly, "That's what I do."

"I take controversial cases and I will continue to do so," he told Sinclair Broadcast Group in a Tuesday interview. "I defended Jeff Epstein for the same reason John Adams defended the people accused of the Boston Massacre

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wjla.com/amp/news/nation-world/connections-to-jeffrey-epstein-threaten-prominent-politicians

Lumberjack , 3 hours ago

On that note, Schumer said he'll give the money he received to help children and women.

I'd bet twice that amount it goes to Israeli causes. Not to real victims and the kahkzucker gets another nice write off.

Epstein's intel connections must be brought forth. My guess is when Kraft got busted that there were really big names that are still being hidden. A long time and VERY TRUSTED ZH member that I know a bit and collaborated a bit with on the Linda Green fiasco caught on and commented about it including providing solid evidence.

Maybe they should stop blaming Iran and Russia and look at Linda herself.

Lj

[Jul 12, 2019] Epstein story is somewhat uncomfortable for Trump. Looks like he might know That eptein abused under age girls

Notable quotes:
"... Pretty uncomfortable for him while its all being exposed. He knew. He stated that Epstein liked young girls. He said this so not to threaten them when running against long term ZOG apparatchik Clintons. ..."
"... This is what they were afraid of all along. Epstein exposes fifth column completely. It was already exposed before the race and Clinton, who would shelter them 100%, was unelectable. They were vulnerable and paranoid. Paranoid that this would happen. Trump isn't doing this. It us just happening around him. ..."
Jul 12, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Boogity , 7 hours ago

And Bonespurs, by his own admission, is the best friend the Jews ever had. That tells you all you need to know about him and this **** mess.

vienna_proxy , 6 hours ago

he betrayed us on Syria by not removing American soldiers, all to serve israel

Ms No , 6 hours ago

Pretty uncomfortable for him while its all being exposed. He knew. He stated that Epstein liked young girls. He said this so not to threaten them when running against long term ZOG apparatchik Clintons.

Its as if he was saying "Dont worry I wasn't your first choice but I am no threat to you. I will fill positions with Goldman Sachs and Jews just like every other ZOG puppet. My daughter is also married in and you finance my ****."

This is what they were afraid of all along. Epstein exposes fifth column completely. It was already exposed before the race and Clinton, who would shelter them 100%, was unelectable. They were vulnerable and paranoid. Paranoid that this would happen. Trump isn't doing this. It us just happening around him.

[Jul 12, 2019] Epstein Island has No Airport and Richard Branson has an Island next to Epstein's Pedo-Island

Jul 12, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

fersur , 7 hours ago

Talk is ( My Understanding ) that Epstein had only One Billionaire client, the guy that owns Victoria Secret and more, who gave Epstein the Eastside New York Mansion for $1.00 ( my guess Is Blackmailed ) revealing all the Epstein lifetime earnings being Child Prostitution related' including Blackmailings and other dastardly deeds, just a Con Man extraordinaire, when Epstein Blackmailings tie into Hugh Hefner ( Bill Mahers best friend ) Blackmailings their will Not be enough Rocks on the Planet Earth for the Deep State to find and hide under, because Ray(chel) Chandler Obamas squeeze filmed for Blackmailing the goings-on at Orgy Island, Note' Chandler became a common term for Child that works at being a Child Handler, or Ray Chandler could be a boy or assorted Raychel Chandler girls, the actual Ray(chel) Chandler was often pictured with Obama thru the years and took the Lolita Express arm in arm with Bill Clinton at 15 years old, she trained underagers sex and liked taking pictures !

Epstein Island has No Airport and Richard Branson has an Island next to Epstein's Pedo-Island, I heard Branson's Island is mostly undeveloped except for one area with a big fancy Hotel where the Beach allows swimmers to walk out to Sea for a roundabout a Mile in Four foot deep water, see Picture Comey took with Bill Clinton and Four others standing in Four foot deep water posing, second picture identifies James Comey standing near small boat, ( Raychel Chandler is supposed to be one of the Two girls on the Boat Not standing in Ocean Shallows posing for the pictures ) the Hotel and developed neighborhood is seen in background !

Xingqiwu , 7 hours ago

Does anyone know if Judge Roberts ever flew on the plane?

fersur , 7 hours ago

Have Not heard his name being tied in, most of the next release about Epstein Island will relate to who was there in 2011 when the 16 pictures were taken, it will take at least a year for some information release !

Xingqiwu , 7 hours ago

And Comey's own daughter will be "prosecuting" Epstein, is that right?

fersur , 6 hours ago

Yes and No, if she us a White Hat Yes !

My guess is that she us a Black Hat, 80% to 20% !

[Jul 11, 2019] NYT publishes the article "Jeffrey Epstein Is the Ultimate Symbol of Plutocratic Rot"

Jul 11, 2019 | www.unz.com

nickels , says: July 10, 2019 at 7:50 pm GMT

That's funny because I always thought the New York Times was the ultimate symbol of plutocratic rot.

[Jul 11, 2019] Epstein and "City on a hill"

Jul 11, 2019 | turcopolier.typepad.com

Paco , 09 July 2019 at 01:46 PM

¿City on a hill?

Caligula an Nero look good compared to that tribe.

[Jul 11, 2019] As Acosta told his interviewers in the Trump transitiotion team "I was told Epstein 'belonged to intelligence' and to leave it alone"

Notable quotes:
"... Is the Epstein case going to cause a problem [for confirmation hearings]?" Acosta had been asked. Acosta had explained, breezily, apparently, that back in the day he'd had just one meeting on the Epstein case. He'd cut the non-prosecution deal with one of Epstein's attorneys because he had "been told" to back off, that Epstein was above his pay grade. ..."
"... "I was told Epstein 'belonged to intelligence' and to leave it alone," he told his interviewers in the Trump transition, who evidently thought that was a sufficient answer and went ahead and hired Acosta. (The Labor Department had no comment when asked about this.) ..."
Jul 11, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

It seems necessary to give some room to the discussion of the Epstein case. Vicky Ward, who wrote a 2002 portrait of Epstein for Vanity Fair , has a short recap of the case at the Daily Beast : Jeffrey Epstein's Sick Story Played Out for Years in Plain Sight .

This bit from it is quite interesting:

Epstein's name, I was told, had been raised by the Trump transition team when Alexander Acosta, the former U.S. attorney in Miami who'd infamously cut Epstein a non-prosecution plea deal back in 2007, was being interviewed for the job of labor secretary. The plea deal put a hard stop to a separate federal investigation of alleged sex crimes with minors and trafficking.

" Is the Epstein case going to cause a problem [for confirmation hearings]?" Acosta had been asked. Acosta had explained, breezily, apparently, that back in the day he'd had just one meeting on the Epstein case. He'd cut the non-prosecution deal with one of Epstein's attorneys because he had "been told" to back off, that Epstein was above his pay grade.

"I was told Epstein 'belonged to intelligence' and to leave it alone," he told his interviewers in the Trump transition, who evidently thought that was a sufficient answer and went ahead and hired Acosta. (The Labor Department had no comment when asked about this.)

'Belongs to intelligence' makes a lot of sense. The question is to which one. A lot of people will says "Mossad" but I don't believe that to be the (full) truth.

[Jul 11, 2019] Who is the real target of Jeffrey Epstein investigation: Clintons or Trump

Some commenters have an impression that this is the result of Trump triggering backmail clause by failing to act as required by those running the show.
Notable quotes:
"... So Epstein is a pimp. In the employ of blackmailers? Why is the New York AG after his ass now? After all these years. Who is the target if not Trump? I doubt the Justice Department is out to get the Mossad. ..."
"... Well, it was certainly supported by _some_ intelligence agency or agencies of _some_ country or countries. After all, gathering blackmail information on prominent public/private figures around the world is part of their job description. ..."
"... This renewed prosecution of Epstein isn't about protecting young girls from billionaire predators, it's an excuse to subpoena any human who ever stepped foot into Maralago so that the Democrat staffed SDNY can find other unrelated info on Trump to accuse him of bad deeds. It's more GetTrump and anyone who ever breathed near him. ..."
"... What evidence is there that Mueller, as FBI Director, would have issued such a stand-down order to U.S. Attorney Acosta? Wouldn't it have been much more likely to have come from AG Mukasey or his deputy? (Who was the Deputy AG then?) ..."
"... What's good is that most people commenting on the threads understand just how deep the rot goes and that it's not confined to North America. ..."
Jul 11, 2019 | www.unz.com

WorkingClass , says: July 11, 2019 at 10:24 am GMT

So Epstein is a pimp. In the employ of blackmailers? Why is the New York AG after his ass now? After all these years. Who is the target if not Trump? I doubt the Justice Department is out to get the Mossad.

Justvisiting , says: July 10, 2019 at 5:23 pm GMT
@lysias

Vicky Ward's new piece in the Daily Beast said that Acosta explained his signing off on the nonprosecution agreement by saying he had been told by a superior that Epstein was intel's deal and above his pay grade, so he should back off. I take it the NYT left that out?

Epstein's criminal enterprise was a CIA operation.

Well, it was certainly supported by _some_ intelligence agency or agencies of _some_ country or countries. After all, gathering blackmail information on prominent public/private figures around the world is part of their job description.

Winnetou1889 , says: July 10, 2019 at 5:24 pm GMT
@Tipsy

This renewed prosecution of Epstein isn't about protecting young girls from billionaire predators, it's an excuse to subpoena any human who ever stepped foot into Maralago so that the Democrat staffed SDNY can find other unrelated info on Trump to accuse him of bad deeds. It's more GetTrump and anyone who ever breathed near him.

tac , says: July 10, 2019 at 5:33 pm GMT
In addition to the phenomenal work that Miami Herald has done to revive this scandal and the inherent injustice there in, TruNews ran a expose on this back in March of this year (watch the video and start from 23:12 onward):

https://www.trunews.com/stream/mossad-meltdown-why-the-truth-cannot-be-reported-about-jeffrey-epstein-s-sex-crimes

Alan Dershowitz was one of Epstein's lawyers who constructed the lenient deal with Acosta (surprise, surprise):

"Is the Epstein case going to cause a problem [for confirmation hearings]?" Acosta had been asked. Acosta had explained, breezily, apparently, that back in the day he'd had just one meeting on the Epstein case. He'd cut the non-prosecution deal with one of Epstein's attorneys because he had "been told" to back off, that Epstein was above his pay grade. "I was told Epstein 'belonged to intelligence' and to leave it alone," he told his interviewers in the Trump transition, who evidently thought that was a sufficient answer and went ahead and hired Acosta.
[ ]
After the one meeting with then-U.S. Attorney Acosta, where presumably "intelligence" was mentioned, the indictment was shelved and, instead, Epstein signed a non-prosecution agreement with federal prosecutors, pleading guilty to one count of solicitation of prostitution and one count of procurement of minors for prostitution, which earned him a cushy 13 months in county jail, from where he was allowed to leave to work at his office and go for walks.

The deal granted immunity to "any potential co-conspirators." Most significantly, federal prosecutors agreed to keep the deal secret from Epstein's victims, which meant they would not know to challenge it in court. As it turned out, this actually broke the law, because victims have a right to know of such developments, under the Crime Victims' Rights Act.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epsteins-sick-story-played-out-for-years-in-plain-sight?ref=undefined

riff of raff , says: July 10, 2019 at 7:24 pm GMT
@Tired of Not Winning

Prince Charles and the Epstein will be sanitized

nickels , says: July 10, 2019 at 7:50 pm GMT
That's funny because I always thought the New York Times was the ultimate symbol of plutocratic rot.
tac , says: July 10, 2019 at 10:07 pm GMT
Wayne Madsen wrote some interesting pieces on Jeffrey Epstein:
[MORE]

[ ]
Epstein served a mere 13 months in prison on prostitution charges, not the longer term he would have seen had he been convicted on pedophilia counts . The deal worked out between Epstein's attorneys and Florida prosecutors also involved the Florida Attorney General at the time, then-Republican and close Bush friend Charlie Crist. Republican Attorney General Bill McCollum actually signed a sweetheart plea deal with Epstein's attorneys in 2007 . Crist, of course, is no stranger to sex scandals involving underage individuals, but in Crist's case, they were individuals of the same sex.
[ ]
Justice for the teens abused by Epstein, and allegedly by his friends Andrew and others, may be elusive. Florida prosecutors who worked for both Jeb Bush and, later, GOP Governor Charlie Crist , arranged for a "non-prosecution agreement" (NPA) that shielded Epstein and any "potential co-conspirators" from federal prosecutions after Epstein agreed to the plea deal that saw him plead guilty to a single state charge of soliciting prostitution, without any mention of the age of the so-called "prostitutes." The no-further-prosecution deal was worked out between Epstein's lawyers and Florida and the federal government. Epstein's lawyers happened to be Alan Dershowitz; Kenneth Starr, the independent counsel of "Monicagate" fame; and Miami celebrity trial lawyer Roy Black. The terms of the NPA were called into question in a letter written in 2011 by former U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida, R. Alexander Acosta, and the dubious deal-making with Epstein's lawyers during Bush's and Crist's tenure is clearly apparent:

https://www.abeldanger.org/billionaire-degenerate-jeffrey-epsteins/

[ ]
It is noteworthy that Attorney General William Barr , seen as Trump's personal lawyer and hatchet man, may have known Epstein in the 1970s. In 1973, Donald Barr , the headmaster of Manhattan's elite Dalton Schoola private school for children of some of New York's wealthiest families, hired Epstein, who did not even possess a college degree, to teach mathematics, physics, and calculus . Students attending Dalton at the time included the son of Alan Greenberg, the chairman of the now-defunct Wall Street firm Bear Stearns. In 1976, Greenberg hired Epstein to be a trader at Bear Stearns and the degree-less math teacher soon became a billionaire . Others attending Dalton during Epstein's tenure include actresses Jennifer Gray and Tracy Pollan and television's "Bizarre Foods" chef Andrew Zimmern. Epstein's association with Barr have some observers jokingly referring to the matter as the "Epstein-Barr" case.

https://www.opednews.com/articles/Epstein-busted-by-feds-at-by-Wayne-Madsen-Airport-Security_Charged_Conspiracy_Corruption-190709-277.html

Researcher Wayne Madsen: Trump's Connection to Epstein Needs to Be Exposed:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/w7bIi04y0aY?feature=oembed

George , says: July 10, 2019 at 10:42 pm GMT
Conspiracy theory: Netanyshu threw Epstein under bus to derail Barak

LIKUD TO A-G: INVESTIGATE BARAK AND HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH JEFFREY EPSTEIN
https://m.jpost.com/Israel-News/Likud-to-AG-Investigate-Barak-and-his-relationship-with-Jeffrey-Epstein-595184

annamaria , says: July 11, 2019 at 12:14 am GMT
@Buck Ransom https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/07/room-to-discuss-the-epstein-case.html#comments

Comment section:

1.

"Mueller issued the stand-down order to Acosta under the Bush regime. My gut instinct: the cover-up of Prince Andrew and the open border cartel human/narco/Weapons smuggling was driving Bush, owned by the Koch's and Brits and the rest of the coverup was the Dims. Both are globalists."

All that cover-up occurred during BushCo with Mueller involved up to his eyes. The amount of dirt and dead bodies covered by this is likely quite large and implicates Current Oligarchy actors.

2.

What evidence is there that Mueller, as FBI Director, would have issued such a stand-down order to U.S. Attorney Acosta? Wouldn't it have been much more likely to have come from AG Mukasey or his deputy? (Who was the Deputy AG then?)

3.

As Cernovich notes:

"Cy Vance – Democrat, gave Epstein a pass on sex offender status.
Acosta – Republican, approved plea deal.
Muller – Republican, signed off on FBI closing file on Epstein.
Schumer – Took money from Epstein.
Bill Clinton – Travel.
This isn't partisan. Corruption at all levels."

What's good is that most people commenting on the threads understand just how deep the rot goes and that it's not confined to North America.

[Jul 11, 2019] Pollard was an amateur. Is Epstein the professional? His role was not money management but blackmail or something more nefarious

Notable quotes:
"... Bill's close association with this t--d raises questions in light of his Marc Rich pardon caper. ..."
"... I suspect that he is an asset of some foreign government and handled their money as Rich did. ..."
"... I believe you are on to something. At least Marc Rich was an oil trader. With Epstein there doesn't seem to be any information on his trading activity. ..."
"... I suppose his role was not money management but blackmail or something more nefarious. Could this foreign government be our "staunchest ally" in the ME? ..."
"... The prediction here is that Epstein will offer to cooperate sooner rather than later. It would not surprise me at all if hasn't already been given the opportunity and wanted to wait to see what cards the government was holding, try to figure out who from his old team had turned and were witnesses against him. ..."
"... A big question now is that if and when he does cooperate, what kind of corroborative materials he would be able to bring along with him to bolster the victim testimony which will be recollections of abuse from women when they were adolescents that happened quite a while ago. ..."
"... if you ask around the trading desk in nyc Epstein and his org is unknown. how is it a billionaire finance guy is unknown on the trading desks? ..."
"... his fortune did not come from trading or investment or anything typically understood to be finance related. ..."
"... perhaps epstein and his sexual predilections was a way for....say... the mossad........ to aggregate wealthy powerful and political figures into revealing the stuff needed to control them in the future as favors are needed. ..."
"... Nobody knows what Epstein is really worth. The $billions figure comes from a single source; a stipulation in his original trial. He would say what his worth was and the prosecutors asked "$billions?" and E's lawyers said "sure". That's it ..."
"... The guy is a sleazy con artist. He's probably happy to have people think he has way more than he does for various reasons. ..."
"... Some will recall the name "mega" surfacing during and after the Pollard contretemps. An as-yet unidentified Israeli spy operating at a high level. Now consider the following quote: ..."
"... "Epstein, who recently loaned his jet to President Clinton, is usually seen in the company of Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of deceased publishing tycoon Robert Maxwell. After Maxwell fell or was pushed off his yacht in 1991, it was revealed that he was working for the Israeli government and the Mossad, the Israeli Intelligence service ..."
"... While Maxwell's ties to the Mossad are well-documented, Epstein's connections are less well known. The London Sunday Times quoted a New York social observer describing Epstein as follows: "He's Mr. Enigmatic. Nobody knows whether he's a concert pianist, property developer, a CIA agent, a math teacher or a member of Mossad." New York Magazine claims Epstein is the man who moves Wexner's billions around the globe. ..."
"... Wexner's philanthropic side is more public. In 1998, the Wall Street Journal reported that Wexner was part of the "'Mega Group,' a loosely organized club of 20 of the nation's wealthiest and most influential Jewish businessmen." The Mega Group meets purportedly to discuss "philanthropy," but others have speculated that their charitable interests are often a cover for lobbying activities on behalf of Israel." ..."
"... The link optimax provides below (and reproduced here ) to an EIR (LaRouche) piece on "Mega" is very interesting. It pulls a lot of this together and seems to be the main source for your linked article. The title quote; "'Mega' was not an agent, Mega was the boss" refers to the NYC-based Mega Group of Jewish billionaires (incl. Wexner) who actually run the show. Epstein's operation looks to me like an subsidiary SPV to manufacture kompromat, as you say. ..."
"... The EIR piece is frustratingly lacking in links/citations, but the crucial one backing up this quote does check out (link below). I have taken the liberty of saving it into the Internet Archive in case it now 'disappears' due to the publicity. The author refers to Mega Group as "the Megabucks" and describes an interesting twist on the traditional Mossad-run Z0G narrative. He asserts that they are actually out for themselves and influence/buy politics in Israeli every bit as much as in the US to further their own ends. Israel to them is merely a useful too ..."
"... EIR quotes the WSJ article (paywall) saying Wexner and Charles Bronfman founded the Mega Group in 1991. Charles' brother; Edgar Bronfman is also listed as a member. I came across someone on reddit ) saying that Hillary basically handed over Libya to the Bronfmans. Edgar's daughter Sara and her husband; Basit Igtet ( http://basitigtet.com) appear to have run the coup (see their wikis on Libya). Basit is coincidentally chairman of an energy co. now looking to exploit Libyan oil and apparently had/has ambitions to become president. ..."
"... It may be antisemitic to characterize Jews as power-hungry money-obsessed world dominators, but this group sure seem to fit the characterization rather well. ..."
"... There's more about the Mega Group in this LaRouche website before 9/11. I know, LaRouche had some crazy ideas but this article is well referenced and jibes with other sources. Seymour Hersh claimed Epstein was Mossad. ..."
"... Mossad honey trap operation. ..."
Jul 11, 2019 | turcopolier.typepad.com

ex-PFC Chuck -> turcopolier ... , 10 July 2019 at 11:07 PM

The Twitter stream linked up-thread by rho seems plausible as a description of the "business model" of his "hedge fund." Here's the link again for convenience:

https://twitter.com/quantian1/status/1148303672742469634

turcopolier , 10 July 2019 at 03:11 PM

JimmyW

It doesn't have to be a US government agency. Bill's close association with this t--d raises questions in light of his Marc Rich pardon caper.

Eric Newhill -> turcopolier ... , 10 July 2019 at 04:08 PM

Sir,

Would a foreign govt really utilize someone with Epstein's life style to handle their money? The guy doesn't exactly fly under the radar. It was only a matter of time before he was busted. Seems highly irresponsible and stupid of whichever government(s).

turcopolier , 10 July 2019 at 03:17 PM

Jack

I suspect that he is an asset of some foreign government and handled their money as Rich did.

Jack -> turcopolier ... , 10 July 2019 at 07:36 PM

Sir

I believe you are on to something. At least Marc Rich was an oil trader. With Epstein there doesn't seem to be any information on his trading activity. Would a foreign government or intelligence agency keep a depraved loose cannon as an asset? I suppose his role was not money management but blackmail or something more nefarious. Could this foreign government be our "staunchest ally" in the ME?

Flavius , 10 July 2019 at 03:32 PM

We haven't seen anything yet of which I'm aware to allow for a determination of what led to Epstein's serial abuses getting revisited. I very much doubt that it was a political appointee new to the system who came into the job while harboring a determination to right a wrong if given the chance. I think it more likely that it's a bottom up initiative, a witness having developed as a result of having gotten jammed up in another case and offering up a bigger fish, a newspaper story, new victims coming to light as a result of civil process, the review process prior to releasing the disclosure materials triggering outrage, something along these orders. Whatever it was, once the case was underway, in the era of #MeToo and with new political appointees in place, there would be no stopping it.

It will be interesting to see who will be the ultimate targets. It was a travesty that in the original case Epstein was the only person charged, unless I missed something. It's obvious that there had been a facilitating organization that he was running and boatloads of cash coming and going. No curiosity about that?

The prediction here is that Epstein will offer to cooperate sooner rather than later. It would not surprise me at all if hasn't already been given the opportunity and wanted to wait to see what cards the government was holding, try to figure out who from his old team had turned and were witnesses against him.

A big question now is that if and when he does cooperate, what kind of corroborative materials he would be able to bring along with him to bolster the victim testimony which will be recollections of abuse from women when they were adolescents that happened quite a while ago.

The indictment forecloses on any opportunity to use Epstein actively; and what kind of deal do you offer to this guy anyway who right now appears to be the principal malefactor in order to get to others, culpable users of his scheme surely, but not integral to his organization per se, largely because they are newsworthy figures of one sort or another. Not an easy call, but I would argue Epstein should take a major hit even if it means risking not getting his cooperation.

LG -> Flavius... , 11 July 2019 at 12:27 AM

"We haven't seen anything yet of which I'm aware to allow for a determination of what led to Epstein's serial abuses getting revisited."

An important figure pushing for the re-opening of the case is Mike Cernovich. He along with Breitbart are the main cheerleaders for the conviction -- the draining of the swamp.

They are Trump's mouthpieces who talk directly to his base. I believe the Trump admin is completely supporting the re-trial.

AG Barr's father had to leave the posh school where he had worked as a principal for a decade, soon after he employed college dropout Epstein as a Math teacher.

The guy who replaced Barr Sr was a pedo (perhaps appointed with Epstein) and left under a cloud. I think there is some personal revenge angle here as well.

ted richard , 10 July 2019 at 03:40 PM

if you ask around the trading desk in nyc Epstein and his org is unknown. how is it a billionaire finance guy is unknown on the trading desks?

answer:

because his fortune did not come from trading or investment or anything typically understood to be finance related.

perhaps epstein and his sexual predilections was a way for....say... the mossad........ to aggregate wealthy powerful and political figures into revealing the stuff needed to control them in the future as favors are needed.

whats is a service like that IF epstein was indeed just a pimp for the deviant.........worth?

how many billions to have a file on a who's who of international power would you pay?

Eric Newhill -> ted richard... , 10 July 2019 at 04:17 PM

Nobody knows what Epstein is really worth. The $billions figure comes from a single source; a stipulation in his original trial. He would say what his worth was and the prosecutors asked "$billions?" and E's lawyers said "sure". That's it.

He manages money held in off-shore accounts. Forbes thinks he has a fraction of that.

The guy is a sleazy con artist. He's probably happy to have people think he has way more than he does for various reasons.

Outrage Beyond , 10 July 2019 at 06:47 PM

Pollard was an amateur. Is Epstein the professional?

Some will recall the name "mega" surfacing during and after the Pollard contretemps. An as-yet unidentified Israeli spy operating at a high level. Now consider the following quote:

"Epstein, who recently loaned his jet to President Clinton, is usually seen in the company of Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of deceased publishing tycoon Robert Maxwell. After Maxwell fell or was pushed off his yacht in 1991, it was revealed that he was working for the Israeli government and the Mossad, the Israeli Intelligence service.

While Maxwell's ties to the Mossad are well-documented, Epstein's connections are less well known. The London Sunday Times quoted a New York social observer describing Epstein as follows: "He's Mr. Enigmatic. Nobody knows whether he's a concert pianist, property developer, a CIA agent, a math teacher or a member of Mossad." New York Magazine claims Epstein is the man who moves Wexner's billions around the globe.

Wexner's philanthropic side is more public. In 1998, the Wall Street Journal reported that Wexner was part of the "'Mega Group,' a loosely organized club of 20 of the nation's wealthiest and most influential Jewish businessmen." The Mega Group meets purportedly to discuss "philanthropy," but others have speculated that their charitable interests are often a cover for lobbying activities on behalf of Israel."

Source: https://freepress.org/article/wexner-war

This could be entirely coincidental. Or is Epstein (or Wexner) mega? It sure looks like his operation was all about getting kompromat for Mossad. Whether that comes out with any veracity remains to be seen.

Barbara Ann -> Outrage Beyond... , 11 July 2019 at 07:30 AM

Outrage Beyond

The link optimax provides below (and reproduced here ) to an EIR (LaRouche) piece on "Mega" is very interesting. It pulls a lot of this together and seems to be the main source for your linked article. The title quote; "'Mega' was not an agent, Mega was the boss" refers to the NYC-based Mega Group of Jewish billionaires (incl. Wexner) who actually run the show. Epstein's operation looks to me like an subsidiary SPV to manufacture kompromat, as you say.

The EIR piece is frustratingly lacking in links/citations, but the crucial one backing up this quote does check out (link below). I have taken the liberty of saving it into the Internet Archive in case it now 'disappears' due to the publicity. The author refers to Mega Group as "the Megabucks" and describes an interesting twist on the traditional Mossad-run Z0G narrative. He asserts that they are actually out for themselves and influence/buy politics in Israeli every bit as much as in the US to further their own ends. Israel to them is merely a useful tool. From the article:

" Israel for them is only a means to Jewish unity, on a par with the Holocaust propaganda. The idea is to keep Jews together, away from hanging with other folks. The heads of the American Jewish community need it, as they have a fair chance to find themselves without soldiers, all chiefs, and no Indians. "

EIR quotes the WSJ article (paywall) saying Wexner and Charles Bronfman founded the Mega Group in 1991. Charles' brother; Edgar Bronfman is also listed as a member. I came across someone on reddit ) saying that Hillary basically handed over Libya to the Bronfmans. Edgar's daughter Sara and her husband; Basit Igtet ( http://basitigtet.com) appear to have run the coup (see their wikis on Libya). Basit is coincidentally chairman of an energy co. now looking to exploit Libyan oil and apparently had/has ambitions to become president.

It may be antisemitic to characterize Jews as power-hungry money-obsessed world dominators, but this group sure seem to fit the characterization rather well.

https://www.mediamonitors.net/kugel-eaters/

turcopolier , 10 July 2019 at 09:13 PM

All

Epstein's victims were all goyim and a lot of blacks among them.

optimax , 10 July 2019 at 11:27 PM

There's more about the Mega Group in this LaRouche website before 9/11. I know, LaRouche had some crazy ideas but this article is well referenced and jibes with other sources. Seymour Hersh claimed Epstein was Mossad. https://larouchepub.com/other/2001/2833mega_spy.html

J , 10 July 2019 at 11:27 PM

Mossad honey trap operation.

[Jul 11, 2019] Ghislaine's role as a pimp was quite creative. Her father Robert Maxwell was a Mossad agent who was instrumental in organizing mass emigration of Russia Jews in Isreal. In this sense Epstein saga reminds Margnistky saga and Eposten -- Biill.Browder which puts MI6 in the picture

Notable quotes:
"... Third, if the legalities are any obstacle at all, the fact that the CIA's legal remit is for foreign intelligence matters. How and why the CIA works domestically needs to be explained. If the agency is supposed to be Mossad, how the Mossad can expect impunity needs to be explained, not assumed on the grounds International Jewry secretly rules the world. ..."
"... Ransacking the biographies is a lot of sampling. The more sampling the more random correlations can be made, which is not, not, not the same as demonstrating causal connections. Causal connections is what justifies saying a model is correct. ..."
"... Robert Maxwell was a Mossad agent. He was assassinated in a slick Mossad operation but did get the Jerusalem burial that he so coveted. He biggest contribution to Zionism- achieved with the complicity of Mrs Thatcher- was his facilitation of the mass emigration of Russian Jews to Israel. ..."
"... Ghislaine and Jeffrey make a fascinatingly suspect couple. Vast wealth acquired nefariously, the manipulation of power through contrived sexuality, the cultivation of social elites, and an inviolable sense of exceptionalism. And in the background, only darkness. There's bound to be some kind of intelligence agency connection there somewhere. Methinks that Ghislaine's role as pimp was quite creative. ..."
"... Think recent Epstein news may be part of plan to impeach Trump or worse, JFK Trump. CIA/Mossad asset Epstein was/is working with Mueller. ..."
"... Acosta was put in his current position to further link Trump admin to Epstein story. Don McGhan, the most cited person in the Mueller report according to Wikipedia was the person who recommended Acosta for his current job ..."
"... Trump, Macron, Obama, May, Blair, Bush, the Clintons, Pelosi, Walker, and all too many more are the manifestations of the evil spoken of above. And there is no God for them to fear; so, they must be taught to fear their fellow humans who must decide to no longer abide their behavior ..."
"... list of evidence, sensible account, explain impunity, explain relationship Epstein to agencies , demonstrate facts support the proposition by: steven t johnson @ 66 <=thanks ..."
"... Now this story will run into 2020 largely damaging democrats into the 2020 election. Trump's DOJ is running the operation. My question is will creepy Joe Biden figure into this? Those videos with his hands all over other people children are beyond weird and creepy. ..."
Jul 11, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

steven t johnson , Jul 10 2019 21:57 utc | 65

Those who want to go all medieval with the lurid fantasies about invincible conspiracies of sexually depraved people who enjoy killing, be it Jews or witches, should at least get modern.

First, blackmail evidence doesn't have to be tapes (Betamax? VHS?) or DVDs. It can be semen stained sheets, used condoms thrown into the waste basket, pubic hairs and possibly a child who passes the paternity test. The disappearance of this evidence needs to be accounted for. If it was never collected

Second, there needs to be a sensible account of where and when this blackmail evidence is stored and how the approach is made. The usual thing so far as I can tell is the use of lawyers. Intermediaries with legal privilege are invaluable. In particular, if Epstein is supposedly an extortionist for some intelligence agency, it is the agency which will have the materials, not Epstein.

Third, if the legalities are any obstacle at all, the fact that the CIA's legal remit is for foreign intelligence matters. How and why the CIA works domestically needs to be explained. If the agency is supposed to be Mossad, how the Mossad can expect impunity needs to be explained, not assumed on the grounds International Jewry secretly rules the world.

Fourth, in either case, someone needs to explain what Epstein is doing for these agencies with all this stuff. The great problem here is not just proving that none of these politicians are doing things they don't already want to do. The implicit idea that they would suffer somehow by an independent policy is enough of a stretch. You have to show the extortion is necessary to achieve whatever the alleged goal is, so vital to success the risk of provoking the enmity of wealthy and powerful people, or getting caught at it, must be taken.

Fifth and most important, all these propositions and other "facts" need to be demonstrated strongly enough to rule out, or at least compete with alternative explanations. For a single example, to make much of Epstein teaching at the Dalton School you should have an idea how often uncertified teachers worked at the Dalton School, how important the right social background (as in recommendations from influential figures,) is for their hiring and not least how long Epsteing even worked at Dalton.

News reports demonstrate very little about complex propositions. Even simple facts that aren't verified by scrutiny from different parties can be unreliable. Generally the best thing is to rely on evidence that is actually sound enough to introduce in court without being blasted apart by an attorney.

In a complex proposition, which can be view as a proposed model, the probability of the whole model being correct equals the probability of the least likely new element. The difficulty there is that the probability of any given element---such as the likelihood of Barr's father getting Epstein a job and this establishing a meaningful connect between Barr's son and Epstein---depends on the amount of sampling. Ransacking the biographies is a lot of sampling. The more sampling the more random correlations can be made, which is not, not, not the same as demonstrating causal connections. Causal connections is what justifies saying a model is correct.

Australian lady , Jul 11 2019 2:23 utc | 114

Robert Maxwell was a Mossad agent. He was assassinated in a slick Mossad operation but did get the Jerusalem burial that he so coveted. He biggest contribution to Zionism- achieved with the complicity of Mrs Thatcher- was his facilitation of the mass emigration of Russian Jews to Israel. There is even a "6 degrees of difference" association between Maxwell and Bin Laden, but that requires research.

Ghislaine and Jeffrey make a fascinatingly suspect couple. Vast wealth acquired nefariously, the manipulation of power through contrived sexuality, the cultivation of social elites, and an inviolable sense of exceptionalism. And in the background, only darkness. There's bound to be some kind of intelligence agency connection there somewhere. Methinks that Ghislaine's role as pimp was quite creative.

Zack , Jul 11 2019 2:23 utc | 115
Trump labor secretary who cut Epstein deal plans to slash funds for sex trafficking victims
Alexander Acosta, the US labor secretary under fire for having granted Jeffrey Epstein immunity from federal prosecution in 2008, after the billionaire was investigated for having run a child sex trafficking ring, is proposing 80% funding cuts for the government agency that combats child sex trafficking .

Acosta's plan to slash funding of a critical federal agency in the fight against the sexual exploitation of children is contained in his financial plans for the Department of Labor for fiscal year 2020. In it, he proposes decimating the resources of a section of his own department known as the International Labor Affairs Bureau (ILAB) .

Think recent Epstein news may be part of plan to impeach Trump or worse, JFK Trump. CIA/Mossad asset Epstein was/is working with Mueller.

Acosta was put in his current position to further link Trump admin to Epstein story. Don McGhan, the most cited person in the Mueller report according to Wikipedia was the person who recommended Acosta for his current job .

Appears Trump may be on the other end of someone-else's maximum pressure campaign after balking on Iran.

Grieved , Jul 11 2019 2:34 utc | 116
The thread before this one was about Russia, and I just now made a comment saying that in my view, not all intelligence services throughout the world or throughout history have been degraded in the way that out western agencies appear very clearly to be.

I made the claim that the service which Putin led was one with a culture of honor and uprightness in its institutional fiber, which explains much about how he came to be leader of his nation.

One could look at the almost unthinkably corrupt and degenerate "leaders" in the west and surmise much about their intelligence services.

~~

In some ways this is an interesting thread but in others an unsatisfactory one because the team is still performing forensics on the situation. I'm reading you and rooting for you, but otherwise have nothing to offer.

It's a dirty business being dissected here. But it's a necessary dissection. I offered a glimpse of honor and morality just to keep up the spirits of the team.

There is a thick layer of something very bad in the world, and it intends nothing good for children. To destroy one's own children seems to me the ultimate decadence. One hopes that the future holds the massive revealing of this layer. And that the global mind of humanity will change from this.

Please, don't mis-construe this as exculpating the culpable. Simply, that awareness is the beginning of change.

And please, carry on.

karlof1 , Jul 11 2019 3:44 utc | 121
Grieved @116--

Your indictment immediately brought Dickens and the US Congress's 1926 vote allowing of lead --a well known destroyer of youthful and adult brains at the time -- to be spewed all over creation via the tailpipes of internal combustion engines; Rachael Carson and the trio of Our Stolen Future authors all to mind. Sadly, there are many more. I'm currently taking a course about Trauma; and it's the criminally immoral trauma children are subjected to that rightfully resurrected debsisdead.

To put an end to most such trauma, the systems of unaccountable power must be eviscerated-- All of Them , Clerical included. Someone up the thread alluded to the fact that most children are raped via corporations and are born with their own a priori trauma, pollution being universally ubiquitous. All of the above is the main reason I vehemently oppose the status quo, attempt to educate people about its evils, and work for its demise. I believe that all here at the MoA bar share that goal--except the trolls. I wonder if the trolls understand just how morally compromised they are through their support of evil, if they have children who're already carrying their own trauma which will afflict them sometime if they live long enough.

Trump, Macron, Obama, May, Blair, Bush, the Clintons, Pelosi, Walker, and all too many more are the manifestations of the evil spoken of above. And there is no God for them to fear; so, they must be taught to fear their fellow humans who must decide to no longer abide their behavior .

snake , Jul 11 2019 3:50 utc | 122
list of evidence, sensible account, explain impunity, explain relationship Epstein to agencies , demonstrate facts support the proposition by: steven t johnson @ 66 <=thanks

@steven johnson <=At the very least you could do a modicum of reading on CIA domestic operations.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2002/10/23/cia-is-expanding-domestic-operations/7e62ab9b-8c1c-4202-b7bd-44b3fb6931c0/?utm_term=.18efa3cb14e3 And that's from Jeff Bezos' CIA funded Washington Post.

KC@73 thinks running Epstein as Charles Augustus Milverton isn't a black op. I do. CIA agents helping the FBI get around domestic laws on intelligence gathering isn't the same thing at all, even if deplorable. Turning pretty much all US nationals abroad they can into assets is also deplorable, but still not the same. by: steven t johnson @ 83

After years of study and many many books I believe the Mossad and CIA are one and the same. The Mossad is very useful when leaving sovereign footprints is verboten--and vice versa. by: last day of grace @ 79

the interests of American, British, Israeli and other nations' intelligence agencies are surely so entwined that picking them apart is impossible. One thing for sure though: none of them serve the interests of the nations they supposedly work for. Posted by: Jen @ 80

awareness is the beginning of change. by: Grieved @ 116

Part two of three parts on the issues here..
http://themillenniumreport.com/2017/04/46146/

In my opinion Grieved captured the essence.. if you are human then you will rebel that a poor sap holds up a liquor store for $100 to buy his girl friend a fix, gets 10 years, but the Intelligence agencies, kill millions, to pay bastards like those mentioned here millions and promote to President people none of us would want to be associated with, and provides life of Riley status to scum with get out of jail free cards.. BS.. we humans are better than animals. where is our pride, where is our humanity, I say get the prosecutors that do not imprison these low life for eternity.. blame the prosecutors.. and leave the victims and the perpetrators alone.. get the prosecutors make them do their job.. concentrate on that and that alone..

dltravers , Jul 11 2019 4:09 utc | 123
The left is going wild thinking that this will "get Trump" but quite the opposite is happening. It appears to me to be a "limited hang out" of an operation that has lost its usefulness long ago. It surfaced during the election to damage the Clinton's but did not receive widespread acclaim.

Now this story will run into 2020 largely damaging democrats into the 2020 election. Trump's DOJ is running the operation. My question is will creepy Joe Biden figure into this? Those videos with his hands all over other people children are beyond weird and creepy.

Trump and some of the other socialites dumped Maxwell and Epstein after finding out what was going on. That is part of the record. The anti-goyim activists that own much of the mainstream media will trim the record accordingly as Trump appears to be their boy. They do not need to blackmail him.

The true sponsors of the operation will be left out of the mainstream accounts and the focus will be on the salacious details of sex with whomever and little girls. The "limited hang out" will bolster Trumps election opportunities into 2020. Once again, the Left will be Left with unconsumed egg on their faces. Like the idiots they are, they are driven by their hate and their ideology and not by intelligence, understanding, and facts.

This is a great opportunity to understand how the world works behind the scenes, use it.

Loyal , Jul 11 2019 4:45 utc | 124
One reason he was able to bargain and got light sentence was his connection with intelligence. There were diplomats even high ranking officials, foreign dignitaries attending his special party and service. He had a trump card with several videos. More likely he is an Israeli Asset.
Moon Reader , Jul 11 2019 4:45 utc | 125
Well, how about this take, sound about right to me:

https://www.henrymakow.com/2019/07/what-behind-epstein-arrest-now.html

Debsisdead , Jul 11 2019 4:51 utc | 126
see, not even a speed bump. A slight slow down before everyone gets back to where they were, continuing the exploitation of these once children to further their own ends. With Trump, Clinton and the Windsor creep, their 'excuse' was that their innate instinct to spread their genes has become corrupted - no doubt as punishment for all their good works.

I dunno how anyone who has parented a daughter - no matter how long ago, can reduce this story down to dispassionate elements such as "Its mossad" or "no it aint, its those decadent brits/the cia/kgb blah blah". I think most of us know that 'it' could be any/all of the above.

Given the probably correct supposition that today's exploitation hasn't resulted in even a minor jism rush, what is the justification?

It's capitalism/communism/fascism?

I'll say it again. It doesn't matter what story about the forces behind this is portrayed as the truth, bugger-all is going to happen as long as the issue is which crooked pol took money from which crooked banker, or which two bit amerikan owned ME colony put the pimp up to kidnapping children and perverting them.

Insult to injury in addition to getting anally raped, at least one of these 11 year old girls then had to put up with a shouting match between Edelstein and a US prez about who had 'the right to take her virginity'

Deep down, even if they won't even admit it to themselves people already know that all pols are crooks, just as they know israel and saudi are a pair of manipulative pseudo-states run by corrupt asshats prepared to fight their indigenous population down to the last remnant of nato cannon-fodder.

As long as the issue is about allegedly omnipotent remote figures, everyone will shrug their shoulders and say "Yuk! - that's what you get eh, anyway I better get back to putting food on the table,"

On the other hand if ordinary humans are presented with the story of 11 year old girls being snatched off the street outside a pizza joint while mom is inside ordering the evening meal, the story stops being remote and becomes something so real they desperately search around to make sure the all young girls in their family are safe.
Do that while making sure the initial victims are adequately protected from thugs and exploitative 'journalists' and many many more victims will appear creating a situation mass media cannot 'massage' or ignore.

mrtmbrnmn , Jul 11 2019 4:55 utc | 127
Another example of Occam's Razor? The thing that makes the most sense in a complex situation is probably the right answer. Seems like Epstein, a world class pimp, sexual predator and bagman for Mysterious Moneymen has been teed up this time to snare Trumptard, to sing a song or compose one (as they say in interrogation rooms) on the uncontrollable narcissist.

Epstein and the Unmentionables were protected by the Cuban-American hack malpracticer Acosta in Fla. The message today to Epstein is: You are not protected this time unless... Do not be surprised to hear one day before too long that Epstein is swimming with the fishes, not unlike the fate met by Robert Maxwell (father of Epstein's Number 1 recruiter and gatekeeper of his secrets).

The Mystery Men can always find another pimp and bagman on the dirty boulevard.

Krollchem , Jul 11 2019 5:02 utc | 128
Additional Youtube discussions with further information on this massive international pedophile ring:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PExjwXlwi2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV3-IQLSiT0
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_ClYrAtDNAGy5J0N-AwBNw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzl7zRsiIjk

[Jul 11, 2019] Acosta Scrapped 53-Page Epstein Indictment In 2008 -After Secret Negotiations-- Fmr State's Attorney -

Jul 11, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Former Palm Beach County state's attorney, Barry Krischer, says that Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta's account of a 2008 plea arrangement his office cut with pedophile financier Jeffrey Epstein is "completely wrong," and that Acosta " should not be allowed to rewrite history," according to a Wednesday statement by Krischer.

Earlier in the day Acosta held a press conference in which he vehemently defended the deal to serve just 13 months in county jail - saying that Krischer would have let Epstein walk otherwise.

"Simply put, the Palm Beach State Attorney's Office was willing to let Epstein walk free. No jail time. Nothing," said Acosta. "Prosecutors in my former office found this to be completely unacceptable, and we became involved."

Not true says Krischer - who said that Acosta abandoned a 53-page federal indictment " after secret negotiations between Mr. Epstein's lawyers and Mr. Acosta, " according to The Hill .

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The Miami U.S. Attorney's Office had prepared a federal indictment against Epstein, but it was never filed. Acosta has also faced criticism for failing to disclose the plea deal to Epstein's victims, something he said would have jeopardized the agreement.

Krischer downplayed his office's role in the eventual plea deal, and alleged the U.S. Attorney's Office abandoned its federal indictment after "secret negotiations between Mr. Epstein's lawyers and Mr. Acosta."

" If Mr. Acosta was truly concerned with the State's case and felt he had to rescue the matter, he would have moved forward with the 53-page indictment that his own office drafted ," Krischer said. - The Hill

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That said, Palm Beach police told the Miami Herald that they felt pressured by Krischer to downgrade Epstein's case to a misdemeanor or to drop it entirely

Palm Beach home of registered sex offender, Jeffrey Epstein. Pedro Portal via the Miami Herald

While Epstein has allegedly victimized up to 60 girls, many of them underage according to the Miami Herald , his sweetheart deal for just two counts of solocitation of prostitution (one with a minor), and included working from his West Palm Beach office for as much as 12 hours a day for up to six days a week. He was also required to register as a sex offender, and was given immunity from federal prosecution.

Acosta avoided mentioning Krischer by name on Wednesday, referring only to the Palm Beach County state's attorney.

"Everything that the victims have gone through in these cases is horrific, and their response is entirely justified," said Acosta. "At the same time, I think it's important to stand up for the prosecutors of my former office and make clear that what they were trying to do was help these victims. They should not be portrayed as individuals that just didn't care."

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Steele Hammorhands , 3 minutes ago

Everything Acosta has said on the subject is a blatant lie. He, himself should be investigated, then given a fair trial and, finally disemboweled along with Epstein and the entire Clinton family.

Sorry, I've had two cups of coffee this morning. Was that a little too harsh?

boattrash , 3 minutes ago

I'm sure that protecting the Clintons didn't play into the decision making.

Strawboss , 4 minutes ago

Acosta is selling the idea that he didnt have a strong case and there was concern that they wouldnt be able to win it in front of a jury...so they went along with a deal that included at least some jail time...

I call ******** for 2 reasons.

Firstly - the victims deserve to have their day in court and to have our justice system fight for them. Acosta wants us to believe that he is convinced that Epstein is dangerous and needed to be locked up. IF that were true...why the **** didnt he take it to trial - put his best prosecutor on it and fight for it with everything hes got? Thats what honorable people do in order to protect our most vulnerable citizens. You fight for whats right.

Secondly - I cant decide whether its corruption that led to the sweetheart deal (secret payoffs or maybe Epstein had dirt on Acosta...who knows...) OR...its a problem with our current system where prosecutors only bring cases that are slam dunks because they want their record to show a 99% conviction rate (mostly plea deals) so when they later go into public office - they have their resume already padded...

**** Acosta. He even looks and talks slimy...

Put him and Epstein in a cell with Bubba and T-bone...after we have extracted all the confessions from Epstein about who all was raping kids.

These sick fuckers need to just die. They need to be exterminated - like cockroaches. Or rats...

They are a clear and present danger to the national security of our country.

swmnguy , 5 minutes ago

Nice try, Acosta. But nobody is criticizing the other attorneys in your former office. Everybody is criticizing YOU. You Personally.

I wonder who Acosta is really protecting, and who is continuing to protect Acosta. Epstein and Trump aren't wealthy or important enough to merit this level of protection, going back decades. There's way more to this, which we'll probably never see.

Fishthatlived , 47 seconds ago

"They're" criticizing him to deflect blame. The DOJ ran this.

Anunnaki , 5 minutes ago

Acosta even looks like a ******* loser. Cut your losses Orange Jewlius. No one cares about Secy of Labor. He means nothing but is becoming a millstone.

dont let that gas bag Pelousy and the rest of the perverted Dem hypocrites keep gaslighting you.

ZekeSwampZombie , 5 minutes ago

It's obvious Epstein is being protected because he is an "intelligence" apparatchik. What a joke this world is.

Roger Ramjet , 5 minutes ago

The truth will be found by following the money. Follow the money!

Sofa King Confused , 4 minutes ago

Hang Acosta right next to Epstein !!

More-Cowbell , 6 minutes ago

Swamp that drain, swamp that drain.

takeaction , 5 minutes ago

Just my thoughts....

What I don't understand is that the MSM is running with this story. Yet they are not mentioning who is involved.....they keep trying to drag Trump into it with all kinds of twists, but I don't think he is involved. He may have "almost" got involved, but I think he saw what was going on and said "Screw you guys, this is going to bite you in the ***".....so with the planes logs of Bill Clinton being on the plane 27 times, and the Black Book showing so many famous people involved, I think that the prosecutors in this case are just letting it build, and then BOOM. They will flip Epstein for a lighter sentence and many many many people go down.

These 2 paeopple bother me....I don't understand how Pelosi's daughter keeps coming up, and then Comey's daughter is one of the prosecutors in this case. Many this swamp is deep.

Anunnaki , 7 minutes ago

Why isn't Ghislaine Maxwell arrested? Sick of (((Amish))) exceptionalism.

bigdumbnugly , 12 minutes ago

apparently Epstein's crimes don't rise to the level of what i got for rolling through a stop sign last month.

ScreaminLib , 9 minutes ago

Yeah, but you're not Jewish nor are you an Israeli blackmail agent so there's that.

DudleyjouWrite , 10 minutes ago

Bullshid "apartheid-state-of-Israel" psychos' political propaganda(?)

Netanyahu dirties up Ehud Barak over Jeffrey Epstein scandal so he ...

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19 hours ago - In the Netanyahu -Barak mudslinging over Jeffrey Epstein , the real winner is . The arrest of Jeffrey Epstein shortly after Ehud Barak announced that he was returning to Israeli political life was a much-needed lucky break for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu . ... Spearheading the ...

WHATDIFFERENCEDOESITMAKE , 9 minutes ago

Acosta would have been a dead man if he so bolden himself to move forward. That's the facts mame!

Fishthatlived , 15 minutes ago

The DOJ ran this case. Their embarrassment is what you are seeing now.

notfeelinthebern , 14 minutes ago

Everything under Obama was a sham. Including everything about him.

Rusticus2.0 , 8 minutes ago

The deal was cut by the Bush DOJ but don't let facts get in the way.

Fishthatlived , 6 minutes ago

True. Robert Mueller's FBI.

Anunnaki , 10 minutes ago

In James Patterson's book Filthy Rich, Acosta was intimidated by Epstein's legal team of Roy Black, Ken Starr and Allen Douchewitz.

The Douche had harvested some of the girls' raunchy posts from their Myspace pages and was vociferously attacking their character.

Acosta, the ****, lost his nerve and cut and run

PanApollo , 12 minutes ago

There is so much more to this whole case; Mossad, CIA are just a couple that comes to mind. The "Dome of the Rock Temple" on Little St. James Island is too convenient and an eyesore. This hole charade is playing out like a movie. It is as if "all the world's a stage, and we are merely players," but most of us are just spectators.

44magnum , 2 minutes ago

yes, and they make us pay for the tickets

notfeelinthebern , 13 minutes ago

The average person would not know what to make of anything anymore. Clearly, some evil forces are at work from behind the scenes but just who is the force is, is impossible to ascertain. Lawyers are ALL ******* weasels - Hillary and Bill being primary examples.

I watched the clip later, and was a bit pissed when Mr Acosta disregarded a legitimate question about Epstein being used by a foreign agency as "going down a rabbit hole".

[Jul 11, 2019] Bombshell- Alex Acosta Reportedly Claimed Jeffrey Epstein -Belonged To Intelligence- -

Jul 11, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Bombshell: Alex Acosta Reportedly Claimed Jeffrey Epstein "Belonged To Intelligence"

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To appreciate the significance of what I'm about to share, you really need to go back and read yesterday's post: The Jeffrey Epstein Rabbit Hole Goes a Lot Deeper Than You Think.

In that piece, I shared many lesser known, but extremely bizarre facts about Jeffrey Epstein and the people around him. I also noted that it appeared his real job was to run a blackmail operation to ensnare some of the most wealthy and powerful people on earth. I alluded to the possibility that he was collecting this priceless information on behalf of a third party, and then just today we learn the following via the Daily Beast :

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"Is the Epstein case going to cause a problem [for confirmation hearings]?" Acosta had been asked. Acosta had explained, breezily, apparently, that back in the day he'd had just one meeting on the Epstein case. He'd cut the non-prosecution deal with one of Epstein's attorneys because he had "been told" to back off, that Epstein was above his pay grade. "I was told Epstein 'belonged to intelligence' and to leave it alone," he told his interviewers in the Trump transition, who evidently thought that was a sufficient answer and went ahead and hired Acosta. (The Labor Department had no comment when asked about this.)...

For almost two decades, for some nebulous reason, whether to do with ties to foreign intelligence, his billions of dollars, or his social connections, Epstein, whose alleged sexual sickness and horrific assaults on women without means or ability to protect themselves is well-known in his circle, remained untouchable.

It should be noted the reason I attach credibility to the above is based on who wrote it, Vicky Ward. She has an extensive history of digging into Epstein, and wrote one of the earliest profiles on him back in 2003. As she notes in today's article:

I spent many months on his trail in 2002 for Vanity Fair and discovered not only that he was not who he claimed to be professionally, but also that he had allegedly assaulted two young sisters, one of whom had been underage at the time. Very bravely, they were prepared to go on the record. They were afraid he'd use all his influence to discredit them -- and their fear turned out to be legitimate.

As the article was being readied for publication, Epstein made a visit to the office of Vanity Fair's then-editor, Graydon Carter, and suddenly the women and their allegations were removed from the article. "He's sensitive about the young women," Carter told me at the time. (Editor's Note: Carter has previously denied this allegation.) He also mentioned he'd finagled a photograph of Epstein in a swimsuit out of the encounter. And there was also some feeble excuse about the article "being stronger as a business story." (Epstein had also leaned heavily on my ex-husband's uncle, Conrad Black , to try to exert his influence on me, which was particularly unwelcome, given that Black happened to be my ex-husband's boss at the time.)

Many people had assumed Epstein was untouchable merely because he had so much dirt on so many powerful people, but it increasingly looks far bigger than that. It appears he may have been untouchable because he was systematically collecting this information on behalf of an intelligence agency. If so, we need to find out precisely who he was working for.

This should be the number one story in the country right now. Blackmail at this level is a genuine national security issue.

Michael Krieger @LibertyBlitz · Jul 9, 2019 Replying to @LibertyBlitz

Wow.
Apparently Acosta claimed Epstein "belonged to intelligence" and was told to back off.
It's all making sense now. https://www. thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstei ns-sick-story-played-out-for-years-in-plain-sight

Michael Krieger @LibertyBlitz

If we can somehow get to the bottom of Epstein I suspect we'll learn a lot about how the world of the powerful really works, and why everything is so fked and corrupt.

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ZD1 , 1 minute ago

Multiple Democrat socialists have been involved in child sex scandals over the years.

Democratic Seattle Mayor Ed Murray resigned after more allegations of child sexual abuse surfaced after a fifth allegation of child sexual abuse surfaced -- this time from a family member.

Anthony Weiner? The ex-husband to Hillary Clinton's top aide Huma Abedin had a long history of sexual misconduct. Weiner became involved in an online sexual relationship with a 15-year-old girl. Weiner pleaded guilty to transferring obscene material to a minor.

Jacob Schwartz, 29, was an up-and-coming young Democrat who worked on New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio's staff until he was arrested in on child *********** charges in which he allegedly kept more than 3,000 images and 89 videos of pornographic acts committed by children.

Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ) was on trial facing federal corruption charges, which started in 2012 over allegations that he and another man were having sex with underage prostitutes.

Convicted sex offender and longtime friend of former Democratic President Bill Clinton, Pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, was accused in January in a federal lawsuit of luring a woman into "his elaborate sex trafficking enterprise," the Daily Mail reported. "The lawsuit alleges that Epstein had a compulsive sexual preference for little girls as young as 13-years-old."

The co-owners of backpage.com , a website allegedly directly linked to child prostitution and trafficking, gave lots of money to Democrats recently, including donations to:

David Garcia -- a Democratic candidate for governor in Arizona

A political action committee backed by House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)

The Arizona State Democratic Executive Committee

The Colorado Democratic Party

The Democratic Party of New Mexico

Two separate donations to Sen. Mark Udall (D-CO)

Two separate donations to Rep. Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ)

Democratic Connecticut Councilman Scott Chamberlain was forced to step down after photographs of him allegedly emerged on a private website for "furries," a weird subculture of people who dress up in furry costumes for sexual gratification.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/20982/multiple-democrats-currently-involved-child-sex-ryan-saavedra

Vlad the Inhaler , 1 minute ago

Here's a bombshell for you- Whatever they discover, the mainstream media won't report it.

Ban KKiller , 7 minutes ago

Compromising elected officials? This is a time honored system, isn't it? Gee, who does that kind of thing? My oh my!

**** this ****. I voted to blow the place up.

Captain Archer , 58 seconds ago

I imagine the intellegence agencies spend half their time ******* with each other.

DarthVaderMentor , 18 minutes ago

To find out whether Epstein was working for or even associated with anyone in the US or UK Intelligence Community should be a trivial task for the DOJ. The question is whether the Trump DOJ has the political will to investigate this and whether they would make the resulting answer public knowledge or not. So far, Trump's DOJ hasn't shown much backbone and hasn't really delivered for the Trump constituency in other matters. let's face it, essentially every single issue that Trump pandered to his base on when campaigning he has either intentionally thrown the issue in a way that is guaranteed to result in a loss or failed to prosecute the issue in the first place. He hasn't proven himself yet when it comes to legal challenges.

IMHO, Epstein was assisted by some politician who threatened Acosta by using the intelligence community as the reason to back off on Epstein. This would have been the perfectly natural excuse, especially in the years just after 9/11.

I'm pretty sure that Trump had no "collusion" or helped Epstein in anyway. This is a golden opportunity for Trump to really inflict damage to the "Deep State" he claims is against him. Let's hope he actually gets someone in DOJ to DO SOMETHING. So far Barr, Durham, Horowitz and Huber haven't done anything. Is it a matter of timing or is Trump not getting things done but putting up a good show?

Although the Epstein affair is probably a huge Democratic exposure, I believe the Globalist RINOs of the GOP and their mega donors are also involved here.

Wild Bill Steamcock , 23 minutes ago

Is it then end, though? This is going in front of the Southern District of New York....they've been fairly hostile toward Trump and have a vested interest in shielding these filthy democrat cocksuckers.

I see this as a way to diffuse the bomb, sweep it away, and try to take a swipe at Trump all the while.

I want this ****** and all of his associates and buddies to burn, but I'm not holding my breath

His last go-round with the law ended in a "NON-PROSECUTORIAL AGREEMENT" Let that sink in, folks. He spent time in the COUNTY JAIL, with 12 hours of work time at his OFFICE, six days a week and was taken back and forth by LIMO.

This guy is ******* garbage, and will weasel right out and fly off to some foreign destination just like Roman Polanski

Wild Bill Steamcock , 13 minutes ago

Anyone one else would've spent DECADES in PRISON, but this guy, a level 3 sex offender- highest probability to re-offend, and he got a sweetheart deal of the millenium.

Question is, why?

jeff montanye , 10 minutes ago

like imran awan, a mossad get out of jail free card? apparently meant more to g.w. bush and obama than it does to trump.

Wild Bill Steamcock , 5 minutes ago

That guy...there's some really dirty business there....not Mossad, I'm pretty sure he's Pakistani ISI...those guys don't **** around

And these Presidents you've mentioned? None of them worth a ****

Wild Bill Steamcock , 24 minutes ago

That smarmy lispy **** will walk. Just watch.

Pardero , 16 minutes ago

If the trail leads to Mossad and Israel, Trump may be compelled to pardon him, lest the whole ugly system be revealed. I imagine that a lot of sinister minds are scheming on ways to shut in this blowout.

Wild Bill Steamcock , 15 minutes ago

This guy will some how skip out and fly off to some country without an extradition agreement with the US.

Jaded and cynical? Sure am.

jeff montanye , 5 minutes ago

but don't forget that jonathan pollard spent thirty years in prison.

Wild Bill Steamcock , 3 minutes ago

He was originally given a life sentence. Then released and sent to Israel. He's a national hero over there

Equinox7 , 36 minutes ago

A Zionists, Jewish Moussad agent gathering information on US political leaders? Highly plausible and highly possible.

I'm sick to death with these Zionist Christians and Jews screaming "anti semite" every time some truthful statement with merit criticizes Israel.

Just today I saw some independent large tow truck owner riding around with the words "Trump, Christian, God, Pro-Life, Israel" written on the large crane arm of the tow truck.

I am pro-Trump, a Christian, believer in God, Pro-Life, but I'm not pro-Israel. What in the Hell does Israel have to do with the first four things written? I am pro-USA and proud US patriot. My allegiance is to the country of my birth, which is the USA. I owe absolutely no allegiance to Israel.

Those Zionist Jewish bastards murdered US service men on the USS Liberty on June 8th, 1967.

My brothers and sisters in Christ in the Southern Baptist and non denominational faiths have been brainwashed to believe they should and must support Israel. That Israel shares our values and are more Godly than the USA.

Really? Would it shock the Hell out of those brainwashed Christians to know that Israel openly believes in and has no problem with abortion?

https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/As-abortion-fight-heats-up-in-US-termination-in-Israel-easily-accessible-589923

Would it shock the Hell out of those brainwashed Christians to know that the **** industry is booming in Israel, and Israelis are obsessed with ****?

https://www.haaretz.com/life/.premium.MAGAZINE-israeli-****-is-booming-and-the-industry-insists-it-s-about-more-than-just-sex-1.5472336

Would it shock the Hell out of those brainwashed, Zionist US Christians to know how intolerant the Zionist Israelis are becoming toward Christian brothers and sisters in Israel?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9529123/Vatican-official-says-Israel-fostering-intolerance-of-Christianity.html

We, in the US, hear all the time from these evangelical Zionist Christians the USA is an unGodly nation that God will not allow to stand much longer, while God protects and watches over Israel. What a misrepresentation of facts and truth.

With all that said, it is highly plausible and believable to conceive that a Jewish billionaire pedophile, and close friend to the Clintons, is also a secret Moussad agent gathering blackmail information on US political leaders and business leaders.

Equinox7 , 30 minutes ago

Your not going to sit there and attempt to change the narrative away from Israel. The Arab Muslims are an entirely different issue. I have issues with Arab Muslims running around trying to sever heads, stab people to death, and blow people up with explosives.

The issue is America's sick undevoted, unquestionable obsession with Israel.

PJBloggs , 37 minutes ago

The elites control the politicians, judges, CEOs etc via paedophile rings for blackmail purposes.

See:

UK:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bezVbPCK5Q8

EU:

https://disobedientmedia.com/2017/09/special-report-the-truth-dies-in-darkness-dutroux/

US:

https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-franklin-cover-up/

Jackprong , 41 minutes ago

POTUS Clinton may have given Epstein access to the Intel Community in order to employ a very complex Black Mail OP! Why would a prosecutor with scads of evidence back off and give Epstein a slap on the wrist? Clinton is the ONLY common denominator. NOT POTUS Trump! Trump was actually a Whistleblower! Clinton and Epstein were partnered up! Epstein was protected by the Clinton Body Count.

Jackprong , 52 minutes ago

Former POTUS Clinton and Epstein were PARTNERS!

TheSharpenedPen , 37 minutes ago

Yep, Epstein bragged that he was a cofounder of the corrupt Clinton Foundation.

Respect_The_Cock , 51 minutes ago

Implications of the "Chosen People" Myth | "Goyim Were Born Only to Serve Us"

Reading Yosef's remarks I also thought of Netanyahu's 2001 interview, leaked last July, in which he frankly discussed his intention to ignore the Oslo Accords, continue settlements and launch a "total assault" on the Palestinian Authority. When asked about a possible negative U.S. reaction, he exclaimed: "Especially now, with America, I know what America is. America is a thing that can be easily moved, moved in the right direction. They will not bother us. Let's suppose that [the Americans] will say something . . . so they say it Eighty per cent of the Americans support us. It's absurd! We have such support there! And we say what shall we do with this?" He was virtually ridiculing the pathetic manipulability of the U.S. public and Congress.

And then there was that statement by former Israeli prime minister Ariel Sharon (also known as the "butcher of Sabra and Shatila" due to his complicity in the annihilation of up to 3500 Palestinians refugees in Beirut during the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982) to Foreign Minister Shimon Peres in October 2001: "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."

Last March Vice President Joe Biden visited Israel to pledge the U.S.'s undying loyalty to the Jewish state. His message was that, despite President Obama's request -- based on U.S. geostrategic interests -- that Israel freeze settlement on occupied Palestinian land, and Israel's refusal to do so more than partially and temporarily, U.S. support would continue as always. The Israeli Interior Ministry (headed by Shas Party member Eli Yishai) used the occasion of the visit to announce the construction of 1,600 new homes for Jews in occupied East Jerusalem. The insult was so brazen that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton "condemned" the move which she said "undermined trust and confidence in the peace process." Zionists responded with their typical indignation. (The Anti-Defamation League called Clinton's remarks a "gross overreaction" towards a "policy." Former New York City mayor Ed Koch accused Obama of wanting to "make Israel into a pariah" and called Clinton's comments "outrageous.")

Then as Biden was addressing the Jewish Federations of North America two weeks ago assuring them that U.S. support for Israel was "literally unbreakable," and would "continue forever," and dismissing the recent rift as being "only tactical" in nature, Israel's cabinet announced more illegal settlement housing construction plans.

Is all this mere chutzpah? Or is it the behavior of a true effendi? Is it not amazing that a regime claiming to represent the Jews in Israel (under 0.01% of the total global human population) or even all the Jews on the planet (under 0.02% of humankind) can boast of its ability to arm-twist U.S. presidents? That officials in a country with a stagnant economy with no raw materials dependent annually on two or three billion dollars in direct U.S. aid (matched by private U.S. donors) to sustain a First World type living standard (for Jews if not for the Palestinians in the occupied territories) can claim to "control America"? That it has been able since 1972 to count on the U.S. to veto practically every UN resolution even mildly critical of its behavior, often supported by all other member states except Israel itself?

Is it not amazing that such Zionists enjoy free license to provoke, thorough their occupations and aggressions, the outrage of 1.57 billion Muslims (23% of the world's population), some of whom predictably vent their rage on the U.S. as Israel's unconditional friend?

And is it not amazing that agents for Israel within AIPAC (Steven J. Rosen and Keith Weissman) could spy in the U.S., obtain classified documents pertaining to Iran (which Israel demands the U.S. bomb), get arrested by the FBI and charged with serious crimes in 2005, only to have all charges dropped in 2009? Or that ranking Congresswoman Jane Harmon, who agreed to "waddle in" to that case in an FBI-intercepted call with an Israeli agent, could escape any charges?

https://dissidentvoice.org/2010/11/implications-of-the-"chosen-people"-myth/

Grouchy Marx , 1 hour ago

It could all be as simple as a wholly corrupt man taking advantage of all his corrupt connections. There may be a foreign connection, but there might not be as well. It could be that "he belongs to intelligence" was said simply because the person that said it risked blackmail, or a case of simple cowardice in the face of influence and money.

"He smells dirty" - a line from the Fugitive movie, applies here. Hopefully the prosecutors will expose the entire rat's nest, wherever it leads. Hopefully the prosecutors have bodyguards.

ZD1 , 1 hour ago

Every Democrat presidential candidate in the last 25 years has had pedophilia ties.

Take Obama for example.

Two weeks after the 2014 election, Terry Bean was busted in Portland. Bean was the co-founder of the Human Rights Campaign, the most effective gay rights lobby in the country, whose donors included Harvey Weinstein.

Bean was a big donor to Obama, Kerry and Gore.

At the Human Rights Campaign, Obama had directed a remark to "my great friend and supporter, Terry Bean." Bean had raised over $1 million for Obama's political career.

Bean was accused of having sex with a 15-year-old boy. Bean's boyfriend, who had been brought along to the White House to meet Obama, was also arrested. The boyfriend's mother accused Bean of using him to "get young kids" by grooming them with gifts of alcohol and Viagra.

According to prosecutors, the Obama backer had engaged in this sort of behavior as far back as '79 when he had sex with a 16-year-old boy and plied him with alcohol and drugs. The victim, who is now a middle aged doctor, had come out so that Bean would not be able to "keep on abusing young boys."

Despite denying the charges, Bean attempted to settle out of court with the boy. The prosecutor stated that Bean had offered the victim at least $200,000.

That's a good deal of money. But only a fifth of what Obama got.

The boy declined to testify. Bean walked free.

Since then, Bean appears to have maxed out his donations to Hillary Clinton. There is no evidence that Hillary or her people have returned them.

But that's business as usual.

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/268399/every-democrat-presidential-candidate-25-years-had-daniel-greenfield

Azesus , 1 hour ago

You are a moron because there is no left or right bent to corruption, corruption is an equal opportunity opportunist depends on the context of that situation presents itself of that particular time like a market, just like when you go shop a car maybe that particular time a Ford mustang was on sale so you picked it up and then some others times its a chevy camaro

beemasters , 1 hour ago

Acosta said that had his office not been involved, Epstein would have only faced one charge from state prosecutors.

"Without the work of our prosecutors, Epstein would have gotten away with just that state charge," Acosta said. "He was and is a sexual predator."

During a press conference on Wednesday, Acosta gave no indication he would resign after days of calls by Democrats for him to step down and said he has the support of Republican President Donald Trump .

"My relationship with the president is outstanding," Acosta said.

The labour secretary would not say if he would make the same decision regarding Epstein again today.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/07/alex-acosta-trump-labour-chief-defends-jeffrey-epstein-plea-deal-190710192250250.html

Speechless!

JGResearch , 1 hour ago

Best-selling author Vicky Ward reported Tuesday that Alexander Acosta told the Trump transition team when asked about his handling of Jeffrey Epstein's case that "I was told Epstein 'belonged to intelligence' and to leave it alone."

Gordon Thomas and Martin Dillon's 2002 book " Robert Maxwell: Israel's Superspy " states definitively that he was a Mossad agent.

Jeffrey Epstein's madame was Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of Robert Maxwell - a Mossad Agent. What are the odds Epstein was also working for Mossad, CIA, and MI6? I mean the guy was blackmailing the top politicians/businessmen in the USA via underage sex.

Source: http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=60461

Here's a clue as to what intelligence agency may be behind Epstein via The Memory Hole :

Epstein's pals include heads of state, entrepreneurs, academics and research scientists, celebrities, and numerous beautiful women, notably Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of media mogul Robert Maxwell (né Ján Ludvík Hyman Binyamin Hoch). Robert Maxwell, head of the Mirror Group Newspapers, was alleged to be a Mossad agent by Seymour Hersh in his 1991 book on Israel's nuclear program,
Expendable Container , 1 hour ago

Was/is Epstein working for the Mossad?

July 9 2019 – The David Duke Show: Dr Duke & Andy Hitchcock Expose The Epstein Island International Sex Ring & Reveal The Evidence It Is A Mossad Operation!

https://andrewcarringtonhitchcock.com/2019/07/09/july-9-2019-the-david-duke-show-dr-duke-andy-hitchcock-expose-the-epstein-island-international-sex-ring-reveal-the-evidence-it-is-a-mossad-operation/

ZD1 , 1 hour ago

From 1989 up until 2003, Epstein donated more than $139,000 to Democratic federal candidates. Notable recipients included former President Bill Clinton.

From 1999 to 2003, Epstein donated $77,000 to Democrats John Kerry, Richard Gephardt, Chris Dodd, and other high-profile politicians and committees.

Epstein gave to independent Connecticut House candidate Gwendolyn Beck in 2014 and U.S. Virgin Islands Democratic Delegate Stacey Plaskett both in 2016 and the most recent midterms.

Most recently, Epstein contributed $10,000 to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee in October 2018.

Epstein was one of the largest investors in the hedge fund managed by Bear Stearns and a key federal witness in the criminal prosecution of two of Bear Stearns' top executives in 2008 -- the same year a non-prosecution agreement between federal prosecutors and Epstein's legal team was negotiated. It isn't clear if Epstein's involvement in the Bear Stearns case played a role in his plea deal.

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2018/12/billionaire-sex-offender-epstein-gave-heavily/

SHADEWELL , 1 hour ago

Of course Epstein contributed to Bubba...dat was a regular customer, [gee was it 26 times or only four? only Clintons hairdresser and Epstein know for sure] and Epstein also got a fabulous amount of black mail footage on Bubbs, which then allowed Esptein to leverage this, to allow him to peddle to diddlers at will, as well as doing his own diddling, while becoming fabulously rich

Here is a theory you may want to think about...say your Epstein (I know ******* repulsive to think about) but still...say you know that they all know you have the drop on all of them, you know you are surely going to get whacked fairly quickly (with Horowitz report weeks away from hitting the streets). You run to the feds and say "take me in by the hairs on my pedo chinny chin chin", and Ill spill the beans...I will look those deep state ***** right in the eye and say goodbye pedo, nice to know you....

This whole thing could be a movie production orchestrated by Trump as the ultimate **** you in the *** with the magic mushroom head revenge moment...You folks fucked with the wrong President, this aint no Nixon you can roll over

WOW...This is MAJOR forest fire, and if it does not get shut down, will burn those sick ***** to the mother ******* ground....the chief architect pyro for this conflagration (Epstein)...gotta be getting taken out by some amazing "accident" in prison, a la Whitey Bulger style, unless (as always) the screen play has a plot twist.

Burn away bitches I say, let the fire fry your ******* ball sacks off you sick *****...when that is over, you can look forward to swimming in the lake of fire with the Clintons for eternity

PKKA , 1 hour ago

Stop advertising the Mossad. Mossad is not so omnipotent as you think. More empty advertising than real affairs. For all the time they caught and stole only one old Nazi alcoholic Eichmann, who did not occupy such a big post in the 3rd Reich. For the stench and advertising was, to the whole world! Jews can do advertising, and you immediately believe everything. Hezbollah also stole Israeli military Gilad Shalit. Look at the failure of the Mossad and Israel in the second Lebanon war of 2006. It was Lebanon and Hezbollah.
At 9 am on July 12, Hezbollah militants from Lebanon struck a rocket and mortar attack on the fortified Nurit point and the border village of Shlomi, wounding 11 people. Simultaneously with this distracting action, a group of militants crossed the border and attacked two Humvi patrol vehicles from an ambush. Three soldiers were killed, two captured - Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev. The operation to free the captives after two hours resulted in the loss of 5 more Israeli soldiers.
And in the future, the events unfolded for Israel is very unfortunate

Johnbrown , 1 hour ago

They did 9/11, and still not prosecuted.

PKKA , 1 hour ago

What is your evidence? Are you the director of the CIA or the FBI?

ZD1 , 1 hour ago

A-List Democrats and left wing journalists partied with Jeffrey Epstein who was a raging Democrat.

Epstein was let out of jail, Palm Beach County jail, after serving 10 months, but he was allowed to leave for 12 hours a day and then basically spend the night. He was allowed to go to his Palm Beach house and do whatever he was doing, ankle bracelet kind of thing, and then go back and spend the night in the jail. Obviously a sweetheart deal for 10 months and then he was released for a time with I think home whatever.

When he got out of jail, he has a dinner party and at the dinner party, Katie Couric , George Stephanopoulos , all of these A-list, left-wing journalist and socialite A-listers that show up at cocktail parties, they're all there, and they know what the guy did, they know who he is, they know what he does.

https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2019/07/08/a-list-democrats-and-journalists-partied-with-epstein/

beemasters , 1 hour ago

Alan Dershowitz, Jeffrey Epstein's former lawyer, claims plea deal was fair and would do it again

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/alan-dershowitz-jeffrey-epsteins-former-lawyer-claims-to-have-proof-accuser-virginia-roberts-giuffre-is-lying/

Another woman, Sarah Ransome, also submitted an affidavit with the lawsuit with new details about sex she claims she had with Dershowitz.

Ransome says that she was introduced to Epstein when she was 22 years old and living in New York. She claims that she spent time at Epstein's mansion and was "lent out" by him to his friends for sex. Among those friends was Dershowitz, she said in the affidavit. She alleges she had a three-way sexual encounter with Dershowitz and Nadia Marcinkova, who also worked for Epstein.

"I recall specific, key details of his person and the sex acts and can describe them in the event it becomes necessary to do so," Ransome said in the affidavit.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/new-jeffrey-epstein-accuser-goes-public-defamation-lawsuit-targets-dershowitz/ar-BBW0oPi

Alan Dershowitz is a Fox news contributor and has been a vocal Trump defender/supporter....Not looking good for him at all.

Respect_The_Cock , 56 minutes ago

Jews Must Never Be Afraid to Use Their Well-Earned Power

by Alan M. Dershowitz

When I hear that Jews are too powerful, my response is, we are not powerful enough. When I hear that AIPAC is too influential a lobby, I say it must become even more influential. When I hear that Jews contribute too much money to support pro-Israel causes, I say we must contribute more. When I hear that Jews control the media, I ask "Why is so much of the media so anti-Israel?" When I hear that Jews have too much influence on the outcome of elections, I say we need to increase our influence. We aren't doing enough. We must do more.

Jews have contributed enormously -- disproportionately -- to America's success. Along with other immigrants, Jews have helped change our country for the better: academically, scientifically, economically, politically, militarily, medically, legally, technologically and in so many other ways. We have earned the right to act as first-class citizens. No other group is ever accused of having too much power and influence. That false claim -- dating back to times and places where Jews had little or no influence -- is an anti-Semitic trope that tells us more about the anti-Semites who invoke it that it does about the Jews.

History has proven that Jews need more power and influence than other groups to secure their safety.

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/13960/dershowitz-jews-power

Doesnt occur to him that the perpetual Jewish effort to grab disproportionate power as a hostile minority elite is WHY they need 'safety.' Or the ways in which Judaism teaches Jews to regard their non-Jewish ethnic host.

http://www.unz.com/tsaker/a-crash-course-on-the-true-causes-of-anti-semitism/

http://holywar.org/jewishtr/02hos.htm

ZD1 , 1 hour ago

Stacey Plaskett, the delegate to the U.S House of Representatives from the Virgin Islands, is unlikely to return the thousands of dollars donated to her campaign by Jeffrey Epstein, a billionaire sex offender recently arrested for child sex trafficking.

Plaskett, a black Democrat, has served as the island territory's representative to Congress since first being elected in 2014. Throughout her tenure, Plaskett has received $8,100 from Epstein, who owns his own private island in the Virgin Islands territory called Little Saint James. The majority of the money, $5,400, was donated during Plaskett's 2016 reelection campaign when she faced a strong primary opponent. Epstein's latest donation of $2,700 -- the maximum contribution allowed at the time under FEC guidelines -- was during the 2018 campaign cycle.

Prior to his 2008 conviction, Epstein was an influential political donor, noted for his support of Democrat candidates and causes. From 1989 to 2003, he donated more than $139,000 to Democrats running for federal office, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/07/08/democrat-congresswoman-will-not-return-campaign-contributions-from-epstein/

Vigilante , 1 hour ago

The Epstein case looks like a 'honeypot' operation

Involve the rich and powerful in degenerate liaisons then (if need be) blackmail them.

Was it a Mossad or a Deep State operation is irrelevant

The big question is ...was Trump partaking in these sordid deeds or not?

I would hazard a yes

Can't believe philandering Trump would turn down an offer of underage beaver.

Needless to say the whole shebang of East Coast Dem/wall st pantheon must have some partaking

beemasters , 2 hours ago

Pedophilia isn't a partisan issue. All on Epstein's black book should be investigated!

philosophers bone , 2 hours ago

At the end of his press conference, Acosta was asked if he said that Epstein was owned by intelligence.

Listen closely to his answer. He beats around the Bush and does not ever answer the question.

consider me gone , 2 hours ago

Well, don't tell anyone but I heard...now don't tell anyone! But I heard....Trump is a Russian mole. I believe it. I mean come on, very important people say so. But unfortunately I can't mention any names.

Rhal , 2 hours ago

It's about time the people knew the CIA has gone rogue.

They made it official on March 31 1981.

Their blackmail library must be massive by now. Some ambitious sobs in Washington even volunteer into the Brownstone just to have the deepstate promote them on a promise.

Deal with the Devil.

Taras Bulba , 2 hours ago

Why is this a bombshell? Clickbait headline. Anyone looking at this for more than, say 30 seconds, would agree that this is a foreign power blackmail operation.

ken , 2 hours ago

So nothing has been done about it, why? Because War/Slaughter-for-Profit in the Middle East is so profitable for American warmongers, and so beneficial for Israel? Is that why? Which foreign government is behind the Jeffrey Epstein Hedge Fund/Child Trafficking Front?

toady , 3 hours ago

It's completely bizarre to me that "someone" can just tell a high level prosecutor "don't prosecute that guy, he's too important" and they just say "okay".

Walking Turtle , 3 hours ago

Shouldn't BE that way. But it sure WAS and in many, many current instances still IS.

Damn shame. But nonetheless, it still is far better to light even a single candle than ever it was to sit and curse the Darkness. Been that way for thousands of years of Human Life on Earth, in fact. So now the Truth is coming to Light. Beds and bridges are BURNING. Enjoy!

Please take time to remember to breathe, now and then, and give up some gratitude to Heaven in those little moments if at all so inclined. And that is all. 0{;-)o[

Generation O , 3 hours ago

You'll remember the film, "Sex, Lies, and Videotape", and the Mob reference to a videotape that Jon Voight wanted in the 1998 "Enemy Of The State" (which laid out the 911 attacks three years beforehand, such as at 1:54:00 in the film). These two widely separated references both stem from the same case which involved the FBI and stretch back to Israeli actions in the 1970's. And yes, there is (so much) more to say. What did you think of that nuclear missile fired at Hawaii? How do you think Trump got the files on this case from Netanyahu? The same way Netanyahu got historical recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital. Take some deep breaths before going on here, because there is more. Much more.

El Vaquero , 3 hours ago

It really looks like Epstein is potentially the stopper that needs to be pulled to start draining the swamp. If true that Epstein is an intel asset, which I won't get my hopes up for but would absolutely believe, that has even deeper implications than just a pedo billionaire blackmailing powerful people around the world. Though the latter is still something that if understood by the general populace, would be ground-shattering in its own right. But if this goes back to the CIA or Mossad or Five Eyes, HOLY ****, the fallout will be beyond epic.

Real Estate Guru , 3 hours ago

After what we just saw with Obama/Clinton/the FBI, CIA, 911, etc, etc, etc.. etc nothing is impossible. In fact, it is almost a certainty at this point that all of our worst fears are going to be realized.

The **** is about to hit the fan. or should I say pizza....

El Vaquero , 3 hours ago

If the CIA wasn't dirty since its inception in 1947, it only took a few years for it to become absolutely corrupt. There was some seriously fucked up human experimentation done in the '50s by the CIA under MKULTRA that goes well beyond just dosing people with LSD. Just understanding that an organization which deals in the trade of lying, cheating and stealing is going to be corrupt by its very nature will get you a long way. Do I have evidence that the CIA put a pedo billionaire up to ensnaring rich and powerful people and using that for blackmail? No. Do I find it plausable that such an organization would do such a thing? Absolutely.

sbin , 2 hours ago

Start calling the "intelligence agencies" by the correct name unaccountable secret police then declassify everything so those responsible can be held accountable.

Bush sr was an evil person.

JSBach1 , 3 hours ago

Another piece per Wayne Madsen:

It is noteworthy that Attorney General William Barr, seen as Trump's personal lawyer and hatchet man, may have known Epstein in the 1970s. In 1973, Donald Barr, the headmaster of Manhattan's elite Dalton School a private school for children of some of New York's wealthiest families, hired Epstein, who did not even possess a college degree, to teach mathematics, physics, and calculus. Students attending Dalton at the time included the son of Alan Greenberg, the chairman of the now-defunct Wall Street firm Bear Stearns. In 1976, Greenberg hired Epstein to be a trader at Bear Stearns and the degree-less math teacher soon became a billionaire . Others attending Dalton during Epstein's tenure include actresses Jennifer Gray and Tracy Pollan and television's "Bizarre Foods" chef Andrew Zimmern. Epstein's association with Barr have some observers jokingly referring to the matter as the "Epstein-Barr" case.

...

What is most interesting is the fact that the SDNY's Public Corruption Unit (PCU) is handling the case against Epstein. This has raised eyebrows among experienced former federal prosecutors because it indicates that the Epstein case may involve malfeasance in office by government officials . Also, one of the SDNY prosecutors handling the Epstein case in Maureen Comey, the daughter of former FBI director James Comey, who Trump fired in 2007 during a fit of rage. Ms. Comey, a graduate of Harvard Law School, has been with the SDNY since 2015 and is with the Office's Violent and Organized Crime Unit. WMR has compiled a 'massive database showing thousands of Trump links to organized crime elements in New York and elsewhere'.

...

Epstein victim, Giuffre, represented by David Boies, the chairman of Boies, Schiller & Flexner, has a pending lawsuit against Maxwell, claiming that Epstein's assistant turned her into a "sex slave." The suit also involves making public sealed court documents that not only implicate Maxwell in Epstein's trafficking ring but also Dershowitz and other VIPs.

The involvement of British citizen Maxwell and Prince Andrew in the Epstein matter is drawing attention to another recent story concerning top secret cables sent to London from Washington by British ambassador to the United States Kim Darroch . Among the recipients of Darroch's cables was Mark Sedwill, the British national security adviser and Cabinet Secretary. Darroch warned in one dispatch to London that, with Trump, "we could also be at the beginning of a downward spiral, rather than just a roller coaster: something could emerge that leads to disgrace and downfall."

With the FBI involved in the renewed criminal probe of Epstein that links to Maxwell and Prince Andrew, the British ambassador would have, as a matter of course, been briefed by federal authorities on prominent UK citizens being in legal extremis in the United States .

https://www.opednews.com/articles/Epstein-busted-by-feds-at-by-Wayne-Madsen-Airport-Security_Charged_Conspiracy_Corruption-190709-277.html

Real Estate Guru , 3 hours ago

1970??? so 50 years ago he was doing this? lol!...

Buck Johnson , 4 hours ago

I have people saying in the comments that the Mossad couldn't have gotten the federal prosecutor to back off and other things in regard to America the CIA did it, yes and no. I'm going to bring up 2 movies one a real movie called Safehouse and the other a documentary. Remember Safehouse with Denzel Washington, you remember when he went to that bar in the beginning to get blackmail information to protect himself and/or have leverage over others that want him dead. There was a scene toward the end with Brendan Gleeson talking to Vera Farmiga *(both CIA agents) before he killed her about having to do your job but having people following you and always watching and recording what you do. I think this comment was essentially a dig at the Mossad and how they do their work. The Mossad are used to help CIA or other world intelligence organizations and when they do help they make sure to keep record, tapes, information on the people and what happened so they can essentially blackmail those agents at a later time to help them and then when they do they become more compromised and eventually their own agents are afraid of being outed to their superiors and maybe the Mossad say look we will help you to get up in your boss position so those agents help to take down their bosses and such and now you see how those agents are so beholden to the Mossad and have done so much both privately and helping the Mossad that they don't dare go against them and end up doing life in some dark hole somewhere for being a traitor.

This is classic, classic spy 101 to slowly get them so buried in that hole that their only way out is to stay on the Mossad team and there was no way out. Also the second film which was a documentary of sorts I need help with, so anybody that can find this documentary that was on HBO/encore please tell me the name I was flipping channels when I stopped on the channel to watch it. In this documentary it was in a part of India where there was alot of white/european hippies, but as the documentary continued you started to noticed that the ones being filmed where Israeli and they even had one that actually said (Older guy) he was retired Mossad. It was essentially them living around in this area but while they lived there one older guy acted like a watcher/fixer for the group. Because one of the crowd of Israeli (youngish guy I would say 27 but they wouldn't show his face), started to spout about conspiracy **** that we have heard and kept on going and going as if he did things real bad and was trying to clear his soul in some ways. Well this "fixer" was able to get in contact with some Israeli govt. official that "happen" to fly into that part of India for some state issue. The camera man was able to video tape this Israeli watcher/fixer taking the official to the side and talking to him with his hand over his mouth and later in the documentary we found out that the same young guy that was talking and saying all that stuff was put on that private plane that flew in and flew out with that govt. official.

Remember everyone over 6 years ago that Mossad hit team that was shown by video surveillance taking out a Hamas weapons dealer in Dubai or some other country (first time seeing this ever) and forensic put it all together. Where do people like this and others who do black back or blackmail or steal or do whatever the Mossad wants where do they retire or go to get away? Not all of them can be wealth, nope they can't. I think that documentary that I saw showed a Mossad spy (not retirement home) but a place for them to essentially chill out for awhile. But as it was pointed out why was a documentary film person filming this, who knows.

But I do know that what little bits and pieces that we have put together, it's possible for them to have circumvented intelligence agencies. Remember, they are only men and women with the same problems we have working in those important places.

Tex1954 , 3 hours ago

Not sure but this might be the one

http://www.jewishpost.com/culture/Former-Israeli-Soldiers-Flipping-Out-in-India.html

wonder warthog , 4 hours ago

Rosemary's Baby was another one of those movies like Eyes Wide Shut.

Per wiki: " Rosemary's Baby is a 1968 American psychological horror film written and directed by Roman Polanski , based on Rosemary's Baby by Ira Levin . The cast features Mia Farrow , John Cassavetes , Ruth Gordon , Sidney Blackmer , Maurice Evans , Ralph Bellamy , Angela Dorian , Clay Tanner , and, in his feature film debut, Charles Grodin . The film chronicles the story of a pregnant woman who suspects that an evil cult wants to take her baby for use in their rituals.

Minnie brings them individual cups of chocolate mousse. Rosemary passes out and experiences a dreamlike vision in which she is raped by a demonic presence in front of Guy, the Castevets, and other Bramford tenants, all of them naked .

Drugged and raped . . . a familiar theme.

In the wiki article, the Catholic Church is mentioned

Anunnaki , 4 hours ago

SCOOP FOR YOU TYLER

From my Mom's Fartbook Page. Since Tyler hates memes this is what it says

According to sources CNN Pres. Jeff Zucker has ordered CNN employees to downplay Bill Clinton's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. "We have to make it look like Epstein was Trump's partner in all this. Don't mention the Clinton's. This could kill us in 2020!"

karp4cy , 4 hours ago

Sexual exploitation of children is the addicts' drug of choice for many of the global elite. As the effects of the drug use lessen with time, a more potent (taboo, violent) concoction is required to achieve a comparable high. Names will be forthcoming, hopefully.

youshallnotkill , 5 hours ago

Before everybody gets onto the rabid-hole express for why this case is again opened and this time in NYC. There are new victims identified outside of Florida. They were abused at Epstein's NYC mansion.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-jeffrey-epstein-accuser-he-raped-me-when-i-was-n1028011

MrButtoMcFarty , 5 hours ago

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-lawyer-claimed-alleged-pedophile-helped-devise-clinton-global-initiative/

Clinton flew on Epstein's private plane on at least 26 occasions between 2002 and 2003, including as many as ten flights without his secret service detail, according to flight logs published by Fox News in 2016 . Clinton distanced himself from the accused pedophile and characterized the 26 flights as representing just "four trips," all of which he took in the company of his secret service detail, in a statement issued Monday evening.

Michael Musashi , 5 hours ago

Although I voted for Trump, and probably will in the next election, it looks like he may have been into young girls, too. There's an excellent tweet stream by @iansmadrig back in 11/2018 that makes a persuasive case for the Trump/Epstein relationship.

That said, myself having done the tour in SE Asia, there's nothing worse than seeing these types of perverts roaming the streets of the Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia. Real freak'n losers--mostly old, fat, and German or Scandinavian though.

There's nothing wrong with prostitutes--I had some great times with them, BUT you have to be one limp ****, lame retarded ******* to want to sleep with underage kids. The inexperience factor along is enough to make a real man cringe, not to mention the lack of physical and mental maturity.

Sick bastards all of them! I hope they burn, and if Uncle Trump is guilty too, well, I hope he get what's coming, too.

beemasters , 5 hours ago

Although I voted for Trump, and probably will in the next election, it looks like he may have been into young girls, too. There's an excellent tweet stream by @iansmadrig back in 11/2018 that makes a persuasive case for the Trump/Epstein relationship.

Checking his posts now... https://twitter.com/iansmadrig

ufos8mycow , 4 hours ago

********.

@iansmadrig is a partisan hack. He runs his page to attack Trump and Republicans.

There is no evidence that prostitute was 13 years old. Just her and another prostitutes word.

In the first video she posted she said she was HIRED as a prostitute for a rape fantasy. She participated willingly.

Her lawyer is Lisa Bloom. That right there is suspect.

I've been watching the MSM since Epstein's arrest and not a single credible mention of Bill Clinton. Alot of 'he's Trump's best friend" though.

Democrats will stop at nothing to take power.

Chuckster , 5 hours ago

Epstein is also connected to Flynn. Holy ****! Israel is probably involved but Israel involvement may be mouse piss in the total scheme of things. Weapons and drugs sales and transportation added to the list of adventures. Where is Donald in all this???? Does he have a part or being a genius was he blinded by light and totally unaware? Was Donald the only one in Washington to be left out? When the smoke clears....we may have a new government with a whole lot of new rules for the turds given power to rule. Maybe this should have happened 100 years (or more) ago.

Chuckster , 5 hours ago

Go watch some George Webb on You Tube and you will be shocked. He is kind of a wild card but I know much of his information is dead accurate so the things he brings up that I didn't know are probably accurate as well. Remember Flynn putting up a go fund me page to pay his attorneys?

****!

UBrexitUPay4it , 5 hours ago

Two possibilities as I see it: either Epstein was caught with his pants down, but some agency thought he might be useful, or his billions bought him agency protection, along with the power of being part of the inner sanctum.

Personally, I don't believe that word didn't get around very, very quickly that Epstein was a dodgy paedophilic blackmailer, so his use would have been limited unless no action was ever taken against his "victims". On balance, the third and most likely option is this is disinformation put out by Epstein to give himself some validity. Don't forget: everybody lies.

Versengetorix , 5 hours ago

James Jesus Angleton brought the fledgling Mossad into the CIA in the 1950s. After the Kim Philby defection, in whom he was heavily invested - he came to lean on his new Jewish friends with increasing devotion. By the time he left - the Mossad had infiltrated the entire Agency. After the USS Liberty, they set their sights on the NSA. Today they own the apparatus of the US Intelligence community. People have no idea about the depth and perversion of the Synagogue of Satin. These people murder for sport and it is thier deeply held belief that all non-Jews are here for their pleasure and use - nothing more.

Call me Al , 4 hours ago

You guys had that with this Pizza Scandal, the UK had it with the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) -

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM_se7pb8t8

Now strangely enough the UK government is conducting an investigation on the scum AS WE SPEAK, are they (the investigation) connected ?.

Respect_The_Cock , 5 hours ago

Spying for Israel Is Consequence Free Hollywood billionaire was a spy, an illegal arms merchant and a corrupter of politicians

I asked "Why is this scumbag still making movies in Hollywood? Why isn't he in jail?" before concluding that the federal government clearly regards spying for Israel as a victimless crime, rarely arresting anyone and almost never prosecuting any of the numerous easily identifiable Israeli intelligence agents roaming the country.

Milchan was an active Israeli spy in the U.S., working for the Mossad technology theft division referred to as LEKEM. The Mossad frequently uses so-called sayanimin its espionage, which means diaspora Jews that it recruits on the basis of a shared religion or concern for the security of Israel. The threat coming from Israeli Embassy operatives inside the United States is such that the Department of Defense once warned that Jewish Americans in government would likely be the targets of their intelligence approaches.

President John F. Kennedy had tried to stop the Israeli nuclear weapons program but was assassinated before he could end it. By 1965, the Jewish state had nevertheless obtained the raw material for a bomb consisting of U.S. government owned highly enriched weapons grade uranium obtained from a company in Pennsylvania called NUMEC, which was founded in 1956 and owned by Zalman Mordecai Shapiro, head of the Pittsburgh chapter of the Zionist Organization of America. NUMEC was a supplier of enriched uranium for government projects but it was also from the start a front for the Israeli nuclear program, with its chief funder David Lowenthal, a leading Zionist, traveling to Israel at least once a month where he would meet with an old friend Meir Amit, who headed Israeli intelligence.

http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/spying-for-israel-is-consequence-free/

dibiase , 5 hours ago

WTF the same people have been involved with covering up ******** for years

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inslaw - the company that the promis software was stolen by Maxwell's father and sold to isreal.

Look at the special prosecutor for this one too Mr. Barr...

it all ties in..... epstien, mossad, 9/11 promis software, muellar, comey, and even trump is some how in this mix.

JSBach1 , 5 hours ago

I encourage all interested people to watch this piece by Rick Wiles of TruNews on Epstein, Maxwell (this is his goy name), Vanunu. It ties the connections to Epstein, child sex trafficking, promis software, Mossad, illicit Israeli Nuclear program stolen from the US

(start at 23 mins):

https://www.trunews.com/stream/mossad-meltdown-why-the-truth-cannot-be-reported-about-jeffrey-epstein-s-sex-crimes

Imagine That , 6 hours ago

Hardly a bombshell! The CIA has been running similar operations since the 1950s. This will end the same way.

You want proof?

"What you have to understand, John, is sometimes there are forces and events too big, too powerful, with so much at stake for other people or institutions, that you cannot do anything about them , no matter how evil or wrong they are and no matter how dedicated or sincere you are or how much evidence you have. This is simply one of the hard facts of life you have to face."

Former CIA Director William Colby to Senator John Camp, concerning the Franklin child abuse cover-up.

geo_w , 5 hours ago

Acosta didnt make that deal. He was just the stooge that got stuck with his signature on the paperwork. I want to know who made Acosta give the deal. That's the guy we should be hearing from.

beemasters , 5 hours ago

According to the Miami Herald, Acosta secretly negotiated with Jay Lefkowitz, a partner at Kirland & Ellis. Acosta was previously a partner in that same law firm. Ken Starr is another Kirkland attorney.

It was all planned...including having Acosta involved. All in the family.

JamesinNM , 6 hours ago

Yes, the deep state only allows people "in" who have a closet full of skeletons so they can control them. Read John Perkins' book Secret History of the American Empire and Confessions of an Economic Hit Man. Research interviews with Dutch entrepreneur Ronald Bernard on the Luciferian deep state pedophiles and their child sacrificing rituals. Pray for Christ's return and the destruction of all evil.

JSBach1 , 7 hours ago

Per Wayne Madsen:

Former President Bill Clinton's inane accusation that Russian intelligence is behind news reports concerning the involvement of Duke of York, Prince Andrew, in an underage sex slave ring run by convicted pederast and Florida billionaire Jeffrey Epstein, is a last-ditch attempt by the former president to salvage the flagging 2016 presidential prospects of his wife, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Justice for the teens abused by Epstein, and allegedly by his friends Andrew and others, may be elusive. Florida prosecutors who worked for both Jeb Bush and, later, GOP Governor Charlie Crist, arranged for a "non-prosecution agreement" (NPA) that shielded Epstein and any "potential co-conspirators " from federal prosecutions after Epstein agreed to the plea deal that saw him plead guilty to a single state charge of soliciting prostitution, without any mention of the age of the so-called "prostitutes." The no-further-prosecution deal was worked out between Epstein's lawyers and Florida and the federal government. Epstein's lawyers happened to be Alan Dershowitz; Kenneth Starr, the independent counsel of "Monicagate" fame; and Miami celebrity trial lawyer Roy Black . The terms of the NPA were called into question in a letter written in 2011 by former U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida, R. Alexander Acosta, and the dubious deal-making with Epstein's lawyers during Bush's and Crist's tenure is clearly apparent:

https://www.abeldanger.org/billionaire-degenerate-jeffrey-epsteins/

Respect_The_Cock , 7 hours ago

Police Dismantle Massive Child Sex Slavery Ring Run By Israelis, Fmr IDF Soldier -- MSM Silent

MEDELLÍN, COLOMBIA -- (MPN) A large child sex slavery ring overseen by Israelis was dismantled by Colombian police earlier this week, in a story that has shocked Colombia and much of Latin America but received minimal coverage from mainstream Western media outlets. The network had been active since 2011 and expressly "recruited" young, underage females in situations of economic hardship or domestic abuse to work as "sex slaves" catering to Israeli tourists visiting Colombia.

According to judicial sources cited by El Colombiano , the tourism packages sold by Mush and his cohorts involved taking Israeli men – most of them businessmen or men who recently ended their compulsory military service in the IDF – to parties at a variety of locales such as hostels, hotels, farms and yachts, where the main attraction was the sexual exploitation of underage women and the mass consumption of narcotics and alcohol. The sites where the exploitation occurred offered lodging or services exclusively to Israeli tourists, a practice that is surprisingly common in frequented tourist destinations throughout South America.

Mush was expelled from Colombia in November of last year after a massive sex party was broken up by police and illicit drugs were found at the scene. By that time, authorities had already determined the existence of the network and his accomplices.

https://thefreethoughtproject.com/israeli-soldier-child-trafficking-ring/

vienna_proxy , 7 hours ago

jews enslaving the world, the talmud according to plan

Psadie , 7 hours ago

Twitter investigative sources saying the 11th hr witness coming forward may be Rachel Chandler who took photos of underground rooms at Lolita Island & Bill Clinton with his arm around her on the plane. This kid will take them all down.

PopeRatzo , 7 hours ago

Just so you know: Acosta was just asked about this directly in his press conference - whether he was ever told Epstein was "with intelligence" - and he denied it.

So once again, Zerohedge reports on a story that's complete ******** because it fits some Qanon jackoff agenda.

JSBach1 , 7 hours ago

According to those who have accused Epstein of sexual abuse, Maxwell's predilection for managing his life extended to his sex life as well. In 2018, Epstein and Maxwell settled a lawsuit brought against them by a woman named Sarah Ransome , who alleged that Maxwell hired her to give Epstein massages at his home. Between 2006 and 2007, Ransome alleged, the two promised to pay her tuition to FIT in exchange for Ransome providing sexual favors to Epstein and his friends, including lawyer Alan Dershowitz . (Dershowitz has repeatedly denied the charges; Ransome's suit was settled in 2018 under undisclosed terms.)

Last April, another woman and former Epstein employee, Maria Farmer, alleged that Maxwell and Epstein had sexually abused her and her 15-year-old sister on two separate occasions in the mid-1990s. She also alleged that she frequently saw a "number of school-age girls" come to Epstein's New York City home . "When I asked Maxwell why these young girls were coming over to the house so often she said that the girls were interviewing for modeling positions," Farmer said . "At the time, based on my observations at the home, it did not seem credible to me that these young girls were interviewing for modeling positions."

Farmer's allegations surfaced as the result of a defamation lawsuit filed against Dershowitz by Virginia Giuffre, who also named Maxwell in a 2015 civil suit against Epstein. In the suit, Giuffre (then identified as Jane Doe 3) alleged that during the summer of 1999, when she was 16 years old and working as a towel girl at Trump's Palm Beach resort Mar-a-Lago, Maxwell recruited her to serve as Epstein's massage therapist. Giuffre alleged that Maxwell and Epstein instructed her to have sex with him and his friends, including Dershowitz . Dershowitz publicly denied her claims and accused Giuffre of making them up, prompting Giuffre to sue him for defamation. Last week, Dershowitz filed a motion for a federal judge to dismiss the defamation suit .

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/ghislaine-maxwell-jeffrey-epstein-arrest-856874/

JaxPavan , 7 hours ago

When Acosta says "intelligence" he means CIA. That's the missing link here folks. However much the Mossad was running Epstein, the Mossad doesn't get the FBI to ignore complaints for decades, and the Mossad doesn't get prosecutors and judges to give sweetheart deals, not in the USA, in the USA the CIA does that.

cashback , 7 hours ago

http://www.renegadetribune.com/the-evidence-for-jeffrey-epsteins-mossad-connection/

JaxPavan , 7 hours ago

The Mossad often does the dirty work for Israel's creator, the British, so they can maintain their "special relationship" with US on the one hand while playing hardball on the other. Given the Queen was on the list for pedo-island too, it's probably all three: MI6, Mossad and CIA. My point is that in the USA, the Mossad would have had to have at least gotten the CIA in on it in order to call off the FBI for decades, and then finally get the sweetheart deal from Acosta and the judge. (Don't forget, a judge had to sign off on the plea deal too; I don't see the judge mentioned?)

dibiase , 6 hours ago

the five eyes are just one agency in real life. although they are compartmentalized. sometimes even going against one another. they are owned by bankers...

beemasters , 7 hours ago

When Acosta says "intelligence" he means CIA. That's the missing link here folks. However much the Mossad was running Epstein ....

Or possibly, there was no "intelligence" at all - at least not on Acosta's part-, but just some powerful individuals or state-sponsored program. The entire deal was unprecedented. No one should have agreed to a deal that would have given immunity to all his pedophile clients ("known AND unknown" - possibly to include future clients?), while officially labeling the victims "whores."

JaxPavan , 7 hours ago

Who was the judge who signed off on it? Did he have a visit from two FBI agents on behalf of the CIA? That's how this usually works. What powerful individuals kept the rank and file, bright eyed and bushy tailed FBI agents from investigating complaints for decades?

beemasters , 7 hours ago

Yeah...I'm not sure. There's been little mention of the judge. That judge was either compromised too or lied to.

666D Chess , 7 hours ago

The big question is... why did Trump appoint Acosta in the first place? What has Acosta got on Trump? I've got the feeling that Epstein is going to commit suicide by stabbing himself 35 times in the back one of these days...

beemasters , 7 hours ago

Epstein is going to commit suicide by stabbing himself 35 times in the back one of these days

Dead man's switch would prevent that. And Epstein isn't stupid not to have one. His associate, Maxwell, on the other hand, may not have any. She might have to go first especially now that she is reported to be showing signs of turning against Epstein.

HoPewGassed , 7 hours ago

Live: Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta holds press conference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHRBrTmDtYA

quiz kid , 7 hours ago

Trump found Melania at a party hosted by Epstein..wow!

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/07/10/was-melania-trafficked-trump-hosted-party-with-epstein-and-29-girls/

Kinskian , 7 hours ago

Gordon Duff hates Trump and has accused Melania of being a hooker at the time she met Trump. The problem with Duff is that he's got a murky past himself. Jeff Rense has had to distance himself from Duff a couple of times since Trump took office.

JoeBattista , 7 hours ago

To anyone with an inquiring mind Epstein has always been someone's tool. My early guess is CIA and Mossad. Where his wealth originated has never been properly explained. The people who flew the Lolita Express have to be really stupid or Sexual deviants unable to control their impulses. a combo of both is likely. How does Epstein's jet share a tail number with a jet registered to the US Dept. Of State?

fuglysheepleco , 7 hours ago

Dyncorp

Psadie , 7 hours ago

Ghislaine Maxwell is a jet pilot and certified submersible pilot. Last week actress Ellen Barkin tweeted that GM told her she trafficked children. Barkin who was married to Ron Perelman just implicated herself for she never reported GM. These crimes are deep and wide...not enough space to hold all of them.

LarryHH , 7 hours ago

DynCorp's Child Trafficking Incidents by Country

Kathryn Bolkovac , the women who became the whistleblower on https://archive.fo/6fFmK#selection-611.0-835.1

"DynCorps deeds in Bosnia , said in an interview: [16] (Archived Version)

There were many cases, but they were never prosecuted: Young girls from Romania, Ukraine, Moldova and other Eastern European countries being brought in to service the UN and military bases as sex-slaves. The cases involved the officers from many foreign countries, including the USA, Pakistan, Germany, Romania, Ukraine, government contractors, and local organized criminals.

The human rights investigators were never allowed to fully investigate, the suspects were immediately removed from the mission or transferred to other missions. The young women were simply sent back to their home countries."

Layman Economist , 7 hours ago

So, who told Acosta that Epstein worked for intelligence? Acosta broke the law, and this excuse without any evidence or name trail doesn't get him off the hook in any way. Time to arrest Acosta and get him to assist in working up the chain of command.

cashback , 8 hours ago

Possible Mossad connection via Ghislaine Maxwell.

https://www.unz.com/isteve/jeffrey-epstein-and-foreign-intelligence/

JSBach1 , 7 hours ago

http://www.renegadetribune.com/the-evidence-for-jeffrey-epsteins-mossad-connection/

khnum , 8 hours ago

There is a world wide network of these creeps in my country former victims have claimed Prime Ministers,an attorney general,high profile media celebrities and others in high places were involved,select kids get flown around the world one on you tube as 'Candy girl' claims both Nixon and Billy Graham were in on it at the Bohemian grove so this sort of crap has been going on for decades we are run by people with filthy habits and sick minds and the prosecution of this case is only the tip of the iceberg and a test case as to whether any cahones still exist in law enforcement.

JSBach1 , 8 hours ago

Alex Acosta had the temerity to tweet this little gem yesterday (for which he took a beating in the replies to his tweet):

Secretary Acosta ‏Verified account @ SecretaryAcosta

The crimes committed by Epstein are horrific, and I am pleased that NY prosecutors are moving forward with a case based on new evidence.

FollowFollow @ SecretaryAcosta

8:41 AM - 9 Jul 2019

https://twitter.com/SecretaryAcosta/status/1148618145671917571

Also TruNews did a nice segment on Epstein and his connections back in March (start at 23 mins):

https://www.trunews.com/stream/mossad-meltdown-why-the-truth-cannot-be-reported-about-jeffrey-epstein-s-sex-crimes

Mr. Kwikky , 8 hours ago

EPSTEIN WAS (IS) MEMBER OF THE CFR AND TRILATERAL COMMISSION

Epstein used his money to construct a worldwide network of contacts. He donated large sums toward neuroscience research at Harvard and a California lab. He invited researchers to his New York house and talked math with them over equations scrawled on a blackboard in his dining room. He flew former president Bill Clinton and actor Kevin Spacey to Africa to promote AIDS awareness. He was a member of the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/jeffrey-epstein-accused-of-sexually-abusing-teenage-girls-surrounded-himself-with-influential-network-of-defenders/2019/07/09/67069e12-a259-11e9-bd56-eac6bb02d01d_story.html

Anunnaki , 8 hours ago

Failing TDS magazine Rolling Stone, founded by a sexual predator, Jann Wenner displays perfectly the (((Alinsky))) coverage of the embarassment of Dem donor Jeffrey Epstein.

They put Trump above rapist Bill Clinton in their political connections story. Been a subscriber since '79. Will not be renewing.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-lists/jeffrey-epstein-political-connections-sex-trafficker-856642/donald-trump-5-856643/

Psadie , 8 hours ago

I read Wexner gave JE $$$millions while Epstein was a college dropout twice. He wasn't that smart but someone offered him a juicy gig. Q posted awhile back that they are saving Israel for last. Uh oh.

Blankenstein , 8 hours ago

This article has a lot of info about Epstein, including his dealings with Wexner.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2003/03/jeffrey-epstein-200303

This was interesting:

"Wexner, through a trust, bought the town house in which Epstein now lives for a reported $13.2 million in 1989. In 1993, Wexner married Abigail Koppel, a 31-year-old lawyer, and the newlyweds relocated to Ohio; in 1996, Epstein moved into the town house. Public documents suggest that the house is still owned by the trust that bought it, but Epstein has said that he now owns the house."

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BigWhiskey , 9 hours ago

Let's assume Epstein was running a blackmail op; this may explain his wealth. But, that is only money. The real prize would be an abundance of blackmail material on someone before he/she becomes powerful. The real prize would be absolute control over the most powerful man in the world. Anyone on that list who became powerful? One would think that continuing the blackmail would be preferable to ending such a once in a lifetime windfall to save the blackmailer, no? Epstein will never play his trump card. He has nothing to gain and everything to lose by flipping on Trump. In the meantime, y'all can fill in the blanks for your choice of a name....

SummerSausage , 9 hours ago

Epstein was a major player before this came out. He was on the Trilateral Commission with Henry Kissinger, he was on the board of the Rockefeller Foundation, he was a major donor to Harvard. All the press about him wrote of how brilliant and what a philanthropist he was.

His rolodex included EVERYBODY and his motto was to have everyone owe him a favor.

He never spilled the beans on who he provided girls to and his accomplices walked away just like Hillary's did in the email scandal.

Names came out in depositions but those were sealed until a judge ruled them to be released a few days ago. We should have some interesting reading by the end of the month.

SummerSausage , 9 hours ago

Just finished reading Conchita Sarnoff's book on Epstein "Traffic King". She's a journalist who is also a crusader against children sex trafficking.

Epstein undoubtedly had big names in compromising sexual situations but he also was a major child sex trafficker which is big business in the US.

He brought young girls in through a modeling agency, promising them and their parents modeling jobs.

There have been tough Federal laws against child sex trafficking since 2000. Epstein wasn't charged under that.

These girls had to have visas. Immigration was never asked to look into the girls' status.

Acosta didn't have the juice to shut those investigations down or ignore the violations.

Makes you wonder if one of the reasons the Dems don't want the borders secure is it will make child sex trafficking more difficult???

Posa , 9 hours ago

Would be no surprise that Epstein had ***** immunity. This was no ordinary perv. He has quite the social pedigree... "Epstein was on the board of the Rockefeller Foundation , a member of the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations , and was a major donor to Harvard University ."... was tied to the Princeton Institute for Advanced Studies (the US residence of Einstein and his circle)... pals with Price Andrew... Sen George Mitchell... media people etc (see Wiki article)

MrBoompi , 9 hours ago

"If so, we need to find out precisely who he was working for."

Even if I would like to find this out as well, I won't be holding my breath. His handlers sure won't be providing info on that. I'm sure Epstein knows when to keep his mouth shut and any sweet deal he gets now would still rely on him keeping his mouth shut. Chances are these same folks are the ones telling him who he can and can't rat on. If Epstein was was of the first to "invest" in the Clinton Foundation, this also adds another piece to the puzzle since the CF also seems to be a protected entity. Like I said before I detect the stench of CIA/Mossad/MI6.

Arizona1234 , 9 hours ago

The "service" that Epstein provided for human scum is simple. You have a plane you provide a human and drug shipping service. By Epstein putting scum bags like a rapists Clinton or some EU fucktard on the plane is then they put diplomat immunity bags on the plane. So they could move drugs and human sex slaves without security (customs) looking too close. For this Epstein was paid. Let's say your one of these Elite scum bags and you want to move a large quantity of cash. Call Epstein. Want to move drugs call Epstein. Then depending on the secrecy of your move depended on cost of what scum bag political fucktard he would put along to cover your ****. Maybe there were more than one intelligence agency that also was paying Epstein. Probably CIA, Mossad , MI6 ,DGSE and SVR .

mendigo , 9 hours ago

Appears republicans are now realizing that what Acosta did was wrong:

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/452299-acosta-on-shaky-ground-as-gop-support-wavers

In light new evidence they say - the old evidence was OK apparently.

Fishthatlived , 9 hours ago

Acosta?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/11/robert-muellers-fbi-gave-orgy-island-billionaire-epstein-light-sentence-today-details-were-released-on-his-widespread-child-sex-abuse/

sickofthepunx , 9 hours ago

how does an fbi director sentence someone?

you tards will believe anything

StarGate , 10 hours ago

Suspect that Epstein was an blackmail operative for a cooperative program between Israel's Mossad and CIA/FBI to collect compromising material on certain targeted Congress members to maintain control over them.

Suspect it is also related to US Congress members who work for Israel as "DUAL" citizens. Those Israeli DUALS who scream loudest for Acosta to quit as Labor Secy on the top of the list for involvement in the blackmail operation as Handlers within Congress.

"Above then US Attorney Acosta's pay-grade" would be the Chiefs of FBI and CIA at the time. 2007 was Genl Hayden / CIA and Mueller/ FBI. DOJ boss of Acosta was either Mukasey or Gonzales.

Just a guess...

Real Estate Guru , 10 hours ago

This guy is a setup by the deep state all the way. No doubt about it.

"In that piece, I shared many lesser known, but extremely bizarre facts about Jeffrey Epstein and the people around him. I also noted that it appeared his real job was to run a blackmail operation to ensnare some of the most wealthy and powerful people on earth. I alluded to the possibility that he was collecting this priceless information on behalf of a third party, and then just today we learn the following via the Daily Beast :"

Nobody can figure out where he got his $Billions. And he was connected to the Clinton "Foundation".

You do the math

freedommusic , 10 hours ago

Italy arrests 18 for allegedly brainwashing and selling children

Italian police have arrested 18 people including a mayor, doctors and social workers for allegedly brainwashing vulnerable children into thinking their parents had abused them so they could then be sold to foster parents.

( source )

Hey didn't MI6, FBI, and CIA, asset Joseph Mifsud operate out of Italy ?

it is impossible for Mifsud to be a Russian asset because he has a history of working with and training FBI agents .

-- Devin Nunes

Anunnaki , 11 hours ago

This explains it all

https://www.amazon.com/Filthy-Rich-Billionaires-Scandal-Shocking/dp/1455542687/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Filthy+rich&qid=1562775327&s=gateway&sr=8-1

shining one , 11 hours ago

"If we can somehow get to the bottom of Epstein I suspect we'll learn a lot about how the world of the powerful really works, and why everything is so fked and corrupt."

Then may I suggest you are NOT as good a researcher as you make out. As most of that information is already out there

Fishthatlived , 11 hours ago

The court documents are all public.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/11/robert-muellers-fbi-gave-orgy-island-billionaire-epstein-light-sentence-today-details-were-released-on-his-widespread-child-sex-abuse/

MushroomCloud2020 , 11 hours ago

This came up through the state courts and was fully exposed by the Miami Herald, and it blindsided Barr and Trump. A lot of people here think this is Trump cleaning the swamp. I suggest you recheck the facts. Paul Cessell reopened this case at the state level. Trump's relationship with Epstein will need to be looked at closely, especially the timelines. I'm especially interested in what Trump knew about Epstein, 4 years before he was arrested in 2008 for child trafficking. Holding back information about a crime is a crime.

This looks like Israel, and we all can see with open eyes that Trump has given Israel more than most before him. It doesn't look good and we need to ask the hard questions. This is a national security issue and it befuddles me why Epstein is not at Guantanamo at this very moment. Instead, he is enjoying constitutional rights. This stinks to high heaven.

libertysghost , 11 hours ago

So why didn't Mueller bring this up in his investigation? That would have been prime time to do so...if...if what you "think" is the circumstance, is really the circumstance that is. Mueller would know it all since he was behind letting ol' Jeffrey off the first time. Wouldn't letting him off the first time be a crime of obstruction too...on Mueller? He is the one whose job it was in the first place.

Trump had his suspicions, I'm pretty certain about that...but if you have no "evidence", what can you do...but get SUED or "Arkancided" given all the players we DO KNOW are more likely involved because of some pretty overwhelming "coincidences" in their ties to Epstein.

You're reaching here...anything is possible in this world and nothing can be proven to "not have happened"...but this is pure conjecture at this point on your part regarding Trump compared to where more solid conjecture could be placed toward others we KNOW were already involved in relationships with extensive relationships with Epstein and covering for him after the fact

MushroomCloud2020 , 10 hours ago

Just a few simple questions. Why did Trump unfriend Epstein? Was Epstein a bad golfer? Was he always late paying his club dues. What upset Trump to go from "he is a terrific guy" to "I am not a fan of Epstein"?

Mind you, this all happened, according to Trump, 15 years ago. That is 4 years before the investigation into Epstein started. And by the way, the person who informed the police was a mother of one of the victims.

If Trump knew about Epstein activities, then distancing himself was not enough. He had knowledge of a crime and didn't report it. That is illegal, and more so if children are involved.

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Kadath , Jul 10 2019 21:12 utc | 49

I highly doubt that Epstein case will result in any arrests of high powered politicians or major celebrities (maybe they'll arrest a few pilots or chauffeurs, but no billionaires). I also remember all the talk of Anthony Wiener's laptop and his "Insurance folder", but that didn't lead to anything.

If even 1/10 of all the rumors surrounding these people were true, it would rank as the greatest political scandal in the last 200 years and would be nothing less than a geopolitical earthquake that would totally reshape the Western world. It would certainly destroy the current Neoliberal international world order, as nations would become terrified that their political stability would harmed if their national elites would become enmeshed in another international scandal

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Alexander P , Jul 10 2019 19:46 utc | 20

We do not know why Epstein resurfaced, there was no need to re-open the case unless 'they' wanted it to be reopened. Thus, there is definitely a deeper political purpose behind this. As I know the higher ups in both Democrat and Republican Party are in one way or another involved in this (both Clinton and Trump visited his island and I am sure many more prominent high ranking US career politicians), this could indeed be equally dangerous for either political party.

However, I don't think Trump needs convincing with regard to Iran he has been all in on that from day 1 of his presidency and never hesitated a moment to tear up the JCPOA. Bibi was right when he said there was never a US president as friendly towards Israel than Donald Trump. His actions have spoken louder than words. So for this case, we will just have to wait and see what pieces of information they allow the MSM to publish and we will know who they are after or what bigger political goal is at play.


jared , Jul 10 2019 20:03 utc | 27

Something does not smell right about this.
It's not like Epstein was some obscure issue or that Trump was uninformed about the case.
Who would allow a person with such baggage on the team?
And the issue was raised so no possibility it was over-looked.
Congress (including the now concerned repubs) had their shot at him, where was the indignation?
Looks like people were told to disregard the issue, until now.
Now like good soldiers they are all barking alert.
Looks like this guy was a plant, an insurance policy maybe.
Now that policy has been triggered - has Trump failed in playing his role?

Pft , Jul 10 2019 21:22 utc | 51

Trumps ex-pal Epstein linked to intelligence. Makes sense given he has Robert Maxwell's daughter doing the procuring. His was likely a black mail operation run by the intelligence agency

Trumps other ex-pal (partner) was also linked to intelligence. Bayrocks Felix Sater. I imagine some of their business practices could have landed Trump in jail unless like Felix he cooperated

Could Trump himself be a an intelligent asset? Perhaps under duress through his activities with Jeffrey and Felix.

If so, indeed the question is if its Israels or the US agency, or is there any difference now.

I don't pretend to know the answers.

Whats the end game?. Comeys daughter is one of the NY prosecutors.Dershowitz is an Israeli puppet and was behind getting the sealed files opened. Is Clinton and the Dems the target or is it meant to pressure Trump to go hard on Iran or risk something coming out? Something else?

I cant help but wonder why nobody choses to remind us about the case filed against Trump in 2016, where a woman claimed rape at age 13 at Epstein's apartment. Is wasn't covered much at the time either. Apparently silently withdrawn. Curious no? Not even the so called Deep State Media that everyone believes was against Trump. Theydon't seem to want to touch it now either. Maybe its just BS.

Of course, maybe just more distraction as they continue fleecing the bottom 90%

Mr. Lucky , Jul 10 2019 21:28 utc | 53

Epstein was/is Mossad. He ran honey traps for Israel.

This is one of the primary ways the Tribe controls US politicians.

This is how Deep State controls Trump, and why Trump betrayed every campaign promise, except the one to Israel.

Acosta was told to give Epstein a sweetheart deal and to stop the Federal investigation.

For his compliance, he was awarded the job of Labor Secretary in the Trump administration.

fastfreddy , Jul 10 2019 21:30 utc | 54

Billionaire, $6 B, Les Wexner, L Brands, Victoria's Secret.

from Wiki

Wexner had a close relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, who managed Wexner's financial assets. Wexner and Epstein parted when Epstein went to prison.[25] Wexner was believed to be the primary source of Epstein's wealth. [26]

fastfreddy , Jul 10 2019 21:45 utc | 62

I am trying to link Wexner with the Bronfman's (Seagrams Liquor Family) via a source other than the Mega Group (which may not be credible, IDK).Clare Bronfman and NEXIVM.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/

seagram-heiress-clare-bronfman-pleads-guilty-in-nxivm-sex-slave-case-825103/

https://www.wexnerfoundation.org/about-us/our-offices--staff


Looks like Epstein was running a high powered honey trap to ensnare Politicians, Lawyers, Government employees for the express purpose of promoting the "Greater Israel Project".

KC , Jul 10 2019 21:51 utc | 63

@fastfreddy - While I hesitate to engage in the ubiquitous Israel is at the root of all debacles conjecture, I think you might be onto something there. Sure would be interesting (now or when whatever shakes out of this) to compare the record on votes of importance to Israeli interests of any politician who gets implicated or indicted with who doesn't.

Alaric , Jul 10 2019 21:52 utc | 64

Protecting Epstein and his clients is secondary. The main goal is to protect his billionaire, Jewish, sponsors and whatever state sponsored him. The pleabs cannot know that their gov is corrupt but the bigger secret that must be kept is who is pulling the strings and how they are doing it.

Andrew Kreig , Jul 10 2019 22:02 utc | 68

Am enjoying the insights here and can share a few responses after years of reporting on Epstein, Clinton, Obama, Trump and Barr.

In response to lysias at #34 on Barr's intelligence and corruption cover-up background, here's a full history with links: "Trump Found His Roy Cohn In Deep State Fixer Bill Barr," May 27, 2019. https://www.justice-integrity.org/1659-trump-found-his-roy-cohn-in-deep-state-fixer-bill-barr

Regarding questions on Acosta by Jared at #27, here's a 2017 article showing that the facts were out about Acosta when the Senate confirmed him: "Did Trump Labor Pick Protect Trump, Rich Rapists, Tax Cheats, Crooked Bankers? Do We Find Out Wednesday?" March 14, 2017. http://ow.ly/hk8b309Uerm

Regarding MSM reluctance to mention rape of 12 and 13 year olds by Trump, as several commentators noted, here's a January 2017 wrap up of those matters with leading to other links: "Welcome To Waterbury: The city that holds secrets that could bring down Trump," Jan. 9, 2018. http://www.justice-integrity.org/1445-welcome-to-waterbury-the-city-that-holds-secrets-that-could-bring-down-trump. My colleague Wayne Madsen and I filed a FOIA action today at the U.S. Justice Department seeking further records.

Our view is that this is an intelligence / foreign policy operation and it's likely that Epstein's time has run out, an occupational hazard in that field. Further, Madsen and I have written separate books years ago documenting that all U.S. presidents after Carter -- but not yet Trump as proven -- have been covert assets of the CIA or FBI before -- stress that -- they entered politics. That's the way it is, and helps explain a lot of the complaints in comments above. Trump is in his own category of a corrupt stooge -- that's not necessarily better.

Can recommend excellent 2008 book "Flat Earth News" by longtime UK journalist Nick Davies that describes the deeply flawed nature of MSM from his perspective as a Guardian and other UK journalist, who aptly describes why lies and quarter-truths get printed. That's a longer story but the gist is what many here are suggesting.

last day of grace , Jul 10 2019 23:04 utc | 79

After years of study and many many books I believe the Mossad and CIA are one and the same. The Mossad is very useful when leaving sovereign footprints is verboten--and vice versa.

Jen , Jul 10 2019 23:06 utc | 80

"...'Belongs to intelligence' makes a lot of sense. The question is to which one. A lot of people will says "Mossad" but I don't believe that to be the (full) truth ..."

At the level that Jeffrey Epstein is operating, he is loyal primarily to himself but happily takes his reward from whichever intel agency at any time offers him the most or whose interests might prove the most lucrative for him.

And the interests of American, British, Israeli and other nations' intelligence agencies are surely so entwined that picking them apart is impossible. One thing for sure though: none of them serve the interests of the nations they supposedly work for.

last day of grace , Jul 10 2019 23:09 utc | 81

The function of the CIA/Mossad is to make sure the agenda and the narrative of the Deep State gets served. In that case one could truly blame Epstein's actions on individuals, or groups of individuals who dictate orders to the Mossad/CIA.

Really? , Jul 10 2019 23:31 utc | 85
@29

Epstein is CFR???
What???
HOw can that be?

Mr.Lucky , Jul 10 2019 23:37 utc | 86
Lozion:

I am not implying, I am stating that they absolutely have the goods on Trump.

His supporters knew he was a scum bag when they voted for him, but he promised to stop the invasion and they fell for it.

Why do you think that Trump did a 180 on every campaign promise once elected, except the promise to Israel?

Why do you think that Trump gave Acosta a job after the sweetheart deal?

Ask yourself another question: Why is happening as the election cycle is beginning?

Anyone who says Clinton is in trouble is delusional. Clinton is invincible.

They are going after Trump.

Really? , Jul 10 2019 23:39 utc | 89

"Something does not smell right about this."

Re timing, could it be connected to Mueller soon to be under oath and testifying?

could Mueller be a target of some kind?

jared , Jul 10 2019 23:50 utc | 93

Epstein reminds me of the Bill Browder affair. And the statement: To know who are the rulers not which are the ones you are not permitted to criticize. Or somethinh like that.

Alexander P. , Jul 11 2019 0:09 utc | 99
If indeed they are after Trump as he failed them on 'Iran', then it makes absolute sense that Dershowitz and Cernovich had the records unsealed as both are strong, strong Zionists and supporters of Israel. Getting a judge do the thing they need is just a formality. I agree with some writer above who asked, why the publicity if pressure can be applied in secret without the media being involved? But this may be the stated goal to bring Trump either completely in line now or publicly topple his presidency.

I get why @94 Really? and others would be sceptical at this stage but I know strong powers in the Zionist/Neo-con deep state want a direct confrontation with Iran for myriad number of reasons (stop the BRI, deal a blow to Syria and Hizbollah, take out Israel's No 1 enemy etc, shore up the Petrodollar), and Trump was still the most likely candidate to follow through with this, given his proximity to Zionism. So far he also has dully followed through with everything imaginable, except for actually attacking Iran.

Interesting development indeed. B. Clinton could be collateral damage, at this stage their power is overestimated in my opinion.

karlof1 , Jul 11 2019 0:11 utc | 100
Andrew Kreig @68--

Okay, An "intelligence op," but which one? The Epstein/Mueller link was made several months ago. I don't see any irregularities in the court judgement to order the unsealing as it's been ongoing for almost 2.5 years and involves odd bedfellows. Was Mueller even aware of the attempt to unseal Epstein's case? So many questions!

ekerbacker , Jul 11 2019 0:16 utc | 103

Arnon Milchan? He was Israeli. Should he be punished, absolutely. But you know who should be hung? Robert DeNiro. He knew Arnon Milchan was a spy and kept his mouth shut for decades. He is a POS of epic proportions.

Insofar as Epstein is concerned. It is all about timing. Mueller is set to testify and probably has skeletons in his closet with regards to Epstein's case. He is likely being told implicitly via the Epstein arrest to be on his best behavior by Barr, and Barr at this age probably can care less that Epstein is being sacrificed so he can make his point, particularly since Barr is probably the 2nd most powerful person in the USA right now.

Epstein was extremely likely an Israeli asset. The Israelis have through political power and force convinced many in the US IC that their ship is sailing in the same direction, and that they should be allowed to serve as the US's dog on a leash, and once in a while be unleashed to do what the US won't. So while he was an Israeli asset, his resources (that is compromising material) was often made available to the CIA, and thus Acosta was told that he is an intelligence asset.

The fireworks will start to fly if and when Epstein realizes he is being hung out to dry and won't be saved. But like almost every other case involving such rich and powerful people, don't hold your breath for justice to be served in the US.

Alexander P , Jul 11 2019 0:29 utc | 104
@96 and 33

What does protecting adolescent teenagers from predatory adults have to do with puritanism? Am I understanding this correctly that you advocate sex with minors as long as they have reached biological puberty? Never mind their mental maturity? So sexual relations involving young women is ok what about sexual relations with young men? This has nothing to do with a false pretentious morality but with the fact that teenagers have not yet reached the level of mental maturity that protects them from sexual exploitation that will haunt them for the rest of their lives, never mind their biological functions and ability to conceive or sire children. It is really puzzling that I even need to make these elaborations in here!

Debsisdead , Jul 11 2019 0:35 utc | 105
In many ways this thread is as sickening as the subject it discusses. All sorts of types left and right competing to show that they have the most insight into the forces behind the anal rape of a 12 year old girl See Andrew Kreig's excellent piece which does consider the horror of the acts, rather than just whether or not it plays into the particular vision of 'power politics' each poster invokes). In no instance does anyone express disgust at the actions of these low life scum other than for the corruption of the pols such as Acosta.
The glee which so many have displayed jumping into this horror story because it can be twisted and forced into their own particular theory about "how the world really works" while totally ignoring that these humans who were abducted at age eleven or twelve & then sold like cattle, now inhabit the netherworld of 'the great society' living in the fringes of prosperous cities in a ramshackle 'double wide', reveals a psychic corruption not a million miles away from that of the rapists.

This story is those young boys & girls, anyone who claims to want to use it to force the greedy rapists and warmongering grubs to face justice, will not succeed as long as they waste time speculating who works for who and who is really in control.

Prince Andrew still bludges off taxpayers despite being photographed with his arm around one of his victims, if you're english & really care about stopping this scum, instead of speculating on which shadowy 'palace spokesman suggested that the Daily Mail include the line "There is no suggestion that the duke had any sexual contact at the house, or knew what was allegedly going on there" you will find out how the at the time 17 y.o. Virginia Roberts feels about her public destruction now (A child the Mail described as an erotic masseuse - presumably to reduce the horror a normal human reacts to that pic whilst ensuring the victim is so humiliated she causes no further problem for "the royal family's" number one arms salesman). This victim first hung out with the andrew sleaze when she was 17 at the pimp's Florida hell hole where the age of consent is 18.

Concentrating on the effect on victims while protecting them from further harm will bring the creeps undone - nothing else will. It was only once people began to see past the priests claims that "the victims led me on" and considered the huge power imbalance that the catholic church came unstuck.
Most of all without humanity, there is no difference between any of us and the scum we criticise.

William Gruff , Jul 11 2019 0:55 utc | 106

Woohoo! Debsisdead isn't dead!

Now, to be on topic, why the insistence that Epstein finally getting outed for real is some mysterious intel op? The CIA has been screwing up left, right and center for years, so is it any surprise that one of their major kompromat operations is getting exposed? Their foolproof plan to install their tool Clinton in the White House in 2016 failed spectacularly and blew up in their faces, so tell me again how great they are at running covert ops? The CIA's own version of James Bond gets snuffed by the CIA's own death squads in Benghazi, but people still think the CIA has a clue what they're doing? The CIA's operatives in multiple embassies are being incapacitated by freakin' crickets and people think these clowns still somehow maintain some vestigial link to reality?

No, this is simply another massive screw-up by the establishment. This blind-sided the Deep State and so much took them by surprise that they were too late to get it clamped down in the mass media. If Epstein dies before the real dirt starts getting exposed then it proves me right and proves wrong all those who worship at the alter of the omnipotent Deep State.

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karlof1 , Jul 10 2019 21:09 utc | 45

Alexander P @39--

He didn't "win a case" he got the records unsealed:

"The 2nd Cir. has ordered the summary judgment record in Epstein's District Court case to be unsealed.

"Great work from @Cernovich - who intervened to get these particular records unsealed."

As Cernovich notes :

This isn't partisan. Corruption at all levels."

What's good is that most people commenting on the threads I've read, including Cernovich's, understand just how deep the rot goes, and that it's not confined to North America.

Really? , Jul 10 2019 21:11 utc | 48

@ 3 Karlof1

Totally agree.

It would be a most salutary outcomoe if Obama were dethroned and exposed for the lying lounge lizard he is. Scales reallyl need to fall from eyes. I am surprised that Trump doesn't embark on this enterprise with gusto.

Puncture the Obama-Clinton BS balloon once and for all.


[Jul 10, 2019] Don t Say Epstein by Gilad Atzmon

Notable quotes:
"... Five years later in 1981 he was fired from Bear Sterns for helping Edgar Bronfman in an insider trading scandal, which Bronfman blamed on his (phantom) Italian partner. ..."
"... While many are focusing on Clinton or Trump the _big_ story on Epstein is that he had blackmail material on a wide range of politicians and business people from around the world. We do not yet know their names. ..."
"... He could have sold that information to the highest bidders (intelligence agencies, corporations, organized crime)–but if he were sharp he would have sold the same information to multiple bidders. ..."
"... He has the ultimate "get out of jail" free cards if he was smart enough to handle them wisely. ..."
"... All the circumstantial evidence supports the allegations that Epstein was operating a "honeypot" to entrap celebrities and politicians such as Bill Clinton , the larger question is was he running this operation for the Mossad , CIA and MI6 or other deep state intelligence agencies . ..."
"... 'All the circumstantial evidence supports the allegations that Epstein was operating a "honeypot" to entrap celebrities and politicians such as Bill Clinton , the larger question is was he running this operation for the Mossad , CIA and MI6 or other deep state intelligence agencies .' ..."
"... Finally, to literally reduce her to a commodity to be sold or traded in exchange for favors if not simply large cash payments is yet a fourth thing. ..."
Jul 10, 2019 | www.unz.com

tac says: July 8, 2019 at 9:59 pm GMT 400 Words

Credit must be given to the Miami Herald which unearthed many of the sordid details pertaining to Jeffrey Epstein's deal struck between his defense lawyers–who dictated the terms of the deal–and Alexander Acosta, now Trump's Labor Secretary.

Here is some background from the series dating back to last year.

Now, there is public pressure building up to either force Alexander Acosta to resign his Secretary of Labor Post or force Trump to fire him. It will be interesting what becomes of that

Miami Herald also released some other tid bits on the unsealed incitement:

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Three days before Epstein's arrest, a federal appeals court in New York ordered the unsealing of up to 2,000 pages of documents that are expected to show evidence relating to whether Epstein and his partner, Ghislaine Maxwell, were recruiting underage girls and young women as part of an international sex trafficking operation. Maxwell, 57, has never been charged ..

As part of its investigation, the Miami Herald was able to identify nearly 80 girls who allegedly were molested by Epstein. Four of the victims, now in their late 20s and early 30s, spoke on video about how they were traumatized first by Epstein, then by his lawyers and private investigators, who delved deeply into their backgrounds and social media accounts, and finally by the prosecutors themselves, who disposed of the case without telling them.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article232398247.html

Also a possibly related story of a former Israeli soldier Assi Ben-Mosh who headed a child prostitution ring in Columbia was arrested in Portugal after initially being deported back to Israel where he continued to run the child prostitution ring:

Ben-Mosh is wanted by Colombian authorities for running a child prostitution ring in the small fishing village of Taganga, located on the South American country's Caribbean coast. He, along with a group of ex-Israeli soldiers, reportedly turned the luxury Benjamin Hostel into a "sex and drug den" in which more than 250 underage girls were subjected to sexual exploitation.

The Benjamin Hostel became known to locals as "little Israel", and acted as a base from which Ben-Mosh ran similar clubs exploiting children in Cartagena, Medellín and the Colombian capital Bogotá. His empire is also thought to have extended to Ecuador, Mexico and Brazil .

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20190524-israeli-who-headed-colombia-child-prostitution-ring-arrested-in-portugal/

MarkinLA , says: July 8, 2019 at 10:28 pm GMT

@tac

Wasn't Israel the place where a lot of Eastern European girls were enticed by phony job offers only to be turned into sex slaves and sold into prostitution? I guess that is what they call a mitzvah.

https://www.justice.gov.il/En/Units/Trafficking/HumanTrafficking/Sexualexploitation/Pages/traffickingisrael.aspx

getaclue , says: July 9, 2019 at 1:21 am GMT
@tac on Business Insider but I understand Google is depressing this "algorithm" as they and the Media try and create a Trump/Epstein "scandal" where there is no there there and ignore Clinton/Epstein and more than 20 trips to Lolita Island -- it is stated that Trump booted Epstein out of his club for involvement with an underage girl –so it seems the "journalists" at the Miami Herald are just more of the same as to the Globalist Propaganda Media Dem Complex– seems a Mike Cernovich did much to bring light on Epstein but that isn't mentioned in all the praise of the Miami Herald Dem propagandists/concealers .
Tired of Not Winning , says: July 9, 2019 at 3:20 am GMT

This Epstein story is huge. I think Amazing Polly is just touching on the surface:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Vc-uysS6Tlw?start=1&feature=oembed

Epstein dropped out of Cooper Union and NYU at age 20, but mysteriously got a job teaching calculus and physics at the prestigious Dalton school in NYC. He was hired by then headmaster Donald Barr (born Jewish converted to Catholicism), father of current AG William Barr. A year later Donald Barr was forced out by a group of Dalton parents for not being "progressive" enough and replaced by a guy named Dunnan, who was later accused of having an affair with a teacher and also sexually molesting a 14 year old.

While at Dalton, Epstein taught the son of Bear Sterns CEO Ace Greenberg, and ended up working at Bear Sterns. Five years later in 1981 he was fired from Bear Sterns for helping Edgar Bronfman in an insider trading scandal, which Bronfman blamed on his (phantom) Italian partner.

Bronfman' and his two daughters have been embroiled in the NXIVM sex scandal case. Meanwhile, Epstein somehow got his start thanks to one major "investor", billionaire Les Wexner, founder of the Limited, Abercombie & Fitch, Victoria's Secret etc. Bronfman and Wexner co-founded mega, a Jewish organization that promotes Israel.

Epstein-Bronfman smells like a giant international Jew crime network that involves blackmailing of wealthy people, celebrities and politicians for having sex with underage girls. It's how Epstein gained his wealth. He had no money to start out. His "hedge fund" is nothing but a fake front for billionaires to wire their ransom money, which is why it is established offshore and so secretive. There has been two huge fires at his private island in BVI btwn 2018 and Jan. 2019. Speculation is that lots of incriminating video footage was burnt, but of course Epstein kept copies, and Mossad most likely has them as well. Got to keep the blackmailing of our political and economic elites going. Israhell has a right to exist.

Paw , says: July 9, 2019 at 3:45 am GMT
@MarkinLA

The Kincora Orphan house all over again. Certainly ,Junkie with no hope ever to stop his addiction. Even when one pedofile crimes are abused politicaly by feminists and thrown on all men. Propaganda long time in schools.

Blake , says: July 9, 2019 at 5:27 am GMT

Now if Prince Andrew has been of a certain persuasion .

Wally , says: July 9, 2019 at 7:10 am GMT
@the grand wazoo

Anne Coulter sets the record straight on scumbag Epstein and those who shielded him from due process years ago. BTW, Epstein claimed the charges were 'anti-semitic', of course.

Ann Coulter: Media Magic -- How a Democrat Pedophile Became a 'Trump Scandal'
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/03/06/ann-coulter-media-magic-how-a-democrat-pedophile-became-a-trump-scandal/

9/11 Inside job , says: July 9, 2019 at 10:46 am GMT

The Jerusalem Post has reported that Netanyahu has started campaigning against Ehud Barak on Barak's ties to Jeffrey Epstein . Christopher Bollyn claims that Barak is the "architect of 9/11 " . Will those responsible for the false flag attacks on 9/11 ever be brought to justice ?

The British Royal family still wields considerable power in the UK and has extensive land holdings throughout the World , to be seated in Parliament a M.P. has to swear an oath of allegiance to the monarch , the last M.P. who refused to do so was not permitted to take their seat ! Like the US , the UK is not a democracy ,whereas the US is a plutocracy / kakistocracy / pathocracy it appears that the UK is closer to being a monarchy .

With Prince Charle's close ties to the pedophile Jimmy Savile and Prince Andrew's ties to Jeffrey Epstein the death of the "beloved" Queen Elizabeth could present real problems to the future of the British monarchy.

Hippopotamusdrome , says: July 9, 2019 at 1:44 pm GMT

Reddit:

Trump's Longtime Friend Jeffrey Epstein Arrested For Sex Trafficking Minors in Florida, New York

"Trump's Longtime Friend"

Justvisiting , says: July 9, 2019 at 7:43 pm GMT
@getaclue

While many are focusing on Clinton or Trump the _big_ story on Epstein is that he had blackmail material on a wide range of politicians and business people from around the world. We do not yet know their names.

He could have sold that information to the highest bidders (intelligence agencies, corporations, organized crime)–but if he were sharp he would have sold the same information to multiple bidders.

I am amazed he served any time in jail, and will be even more amazed if he serves any more time.

He has the ultimate "get out of jail" free cards if he was smart enough to handle them wisely.

Sean , says: July 9, 2019 at 7:47 pm GMT
@Colin Wright the girls are not the kind of thing he would have revealed by offering to others, and it's a minority interest.

The masseuse/ assistant former employee making all the allegations now says she was 15 at the time instead of 17 and is accusing Prince Andrew and anyone else.

It's probably an attempt to get money by selling her story, but the prosecution are not biting. If everything is true he is being accused of in the current case is very basically Epstein paying underage girls for sex.

The sex trafficking network charge is basically a way to get him serious time for little more than he has already admitted to.

Sean , says: July 9, 2019 at 8:25 pm GMT
@anon

ays off big time because people will help others with a good reputation but not those with a bad reputation. But as with the satirical song be careful not to do good deeds when others are not watching. Hence his philanthropy,

I really do not think Epstein would have let anyone get the slightest hint his disgusting behaviour, he liked to portray himself as a Great Gatsby combined with Hugh Hefner figure.

His wealth comes from his ideas about creative tax evasion, and billionaires are not going to trust someone with their money that cannot control themselves with little girls. .

9/11 Inside job , says: July 9, 2019 at 9:01 pm GMT

All the circumstantial evidence supports the allegations that Epstein was operating a "honeypot" to entrap celebrities and politicians such as Bill Clinton , the larger question is was he running this operation for the Mossad , CIA and MI6 or other deep state intelligence agencies .

bartat , says: July 9, 2019 at 9:19 pm GMT

Seems that there's a long history of coincidental folks and suchlike coincidental happenings.
http://www.shoah.org.uk/2019/05/31/the-jewish-pioneers-of-sexual-degeneracy-in-1920s-berlin/
and:

The murder of Mary Phagan. https://www.thevintagenews.com/2017/11/25/the-murder-of-mary-phagan/

I like razpaul's take. But personally I anticipate Mr. E's imminent, fatal 'accident'.

Colin Wright , says: Website July 9, 2019 at 11:31 pm GMT
@9/11 Inside job

'All the circumstantial evidence supports the allegations that Epstein was operating a "honeypot" to entrap celebrities and politicians such as Bill Clinton , the larger question is was he running this operation for the Mossad , CIA and MI6 or other deep state intelligence agencies .'

If so, it's interesting that he's been arrested -- and that it's getting play.

Any bets on whether he shortly 'commits suicide'?

I can't see him spilling all. It's not just Trump he may have stuff on. Clinton was obviously a big fan.

Colin Wright , says: Website July 10, 2019 at 2:23 am GMT
@Wally omething else entirely to do something about it.

and it's still a third thing to not merely engage in sex with her but to chew her up and discard her when you've had your week or whatever of fun.

Finally, to literally reduce her to a commodity to be sold or traded in exchange for favors if not simply large cash payments is yet a fourth thing.

We all get off this bus at some point. There aren't very many of us who would ride with ol' Jeffery all the way to stop four. Sean's rather strange attempt to defend him notwithstanding, Jeffery's a pretty disgusting character. In fact, he's a very disgusting character.

I hate being politically correct and all, but sometimes vile really is vile.

Anon [147] Disclaimer , says: July 10, 2019 at 2:41 am GMT
@Sean

Could Murdoch survive one day without kowtowing to Jewish ? No , he can't . As long as Murdoch could provide what's the Jewish need – Iraq war , Syria war and Iran war or sanctions and promote the paid Israeli agents in Congress , he doesn't need to be a born Jews.

Actually the logic – he is not Jew – works for the Jew , helps the Jew to counter any attempt to locate the perfidious influences the Jews play .

anon [147] Disclaimer , says: July 10, 2019 at 2:48 am GMT
@Sean

"nd billionaires are not going to trust someone with their money that cannot control themselves with little girls.."

But they do. . Parents forced their 26 yrs old to go on trip with Wooddy Allen

They do . They trust these people to run country , guide Harvard , and acquire more money , more elites with weakness .

NoseytheDuke , says: July 10, 2019 at 2:52 am GMT
@Tired of Not Winning

Thanks for that video, it was well worth the 30 mins. I had never heard of Amazing Polly before but can see why she is so described. I agree with her that this is a web of crime and deceit that should be picked over very, very carefully and thoroughly.

TRM , says: July 10, 2019 at 2:58 am GMT
@Corvinus

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Yqb59n69Z80?feature=oembed

At the 5 minute mark the interviewer asks about Trump.

[Jul 10, 2019] Podesta vs Epstein

Jul 10, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

johnwburns , 1 hour ago

Have another look at Tony Podesta's art collection.

http://ibankcoin.com/zeropointnow/2016/11/26/sick-lets-revisit-the-podesta-penchant-for-pedophilic-cannibalistic-and-satanic-art/#sthash.6jj0GpQo.dpbs

cat2005 , 21 minutes ago

I never understood why people claimed Podesta had child abuse links until I read that article. It is enough to make even a hardened Podesta supporter cringe.

I need some mind bleach after reading that.

[Jul 10, 2019] Snyder- Epstein Case Has The Potential To Be The Biggest Scandal In American History -

Jul 10, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Snyder: Epstein Case Has The Potential To Be The Biggest Scandal In American History

by Tyler Durden Tue, 07/09/2019 - 16:25 3 SHARES Twitter Facebook Reddit Email Print

Authored by Michael Snyder via The Economic Collapse blog,

We are about to open up a can of worms that could turn our entire country completely upside down by the time it is all said and done.

Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein's horrific crimes have been well known for a very long time, and I have been writing about them for many years. In fact, there were some people that really, really didn't like it when I wrote about Bill Clinton's connections to Jeffrey Epstein and "the Lolita Express" during the 2016 presidential election. Flight records show that Bill Clinton took 26 trips on board Jeffrey Epstein's infamous private plane, and Clinton also spent an enormous amount of time on Epstein's secluded private "sex island" where underage girls were routinely abused. Of course Jeffrey Epstein had lots of other very famous friends as well, and it has been documented that his "black book" was absolutely filled with marquee names from Hollywood, Wall Street and Washington .

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But despite everything that we knew about what was going on, for a very long time it looked like justice would never be served. Epstein got an absolutely ridiculous sweetheart deal from prosecutors in 2008, and none of his famous friends were ever charged with anything. They all probably thought that they had escaped the grasp of law enforcement forever, but this month everything has suddenly changed.

In recent days, authorities apprehended Epstein after his plane returned from an overseas trip, they raided his home, and they formally charged him with sex trafficking and conspiracy

Fund manager Jeffrey Epstein used his wealth and power to sexually abuse dozens of young girls for years at one of the biggest mansions in Manhattan, paying them hundreds of dollars in cash for each encounter and hundreds more if they brought in more victims, U.S. prosecutors said.

Now, federal prosecutors are charging him with sex trafficking and conspiracy. They're seeking to send him prison for years and seize that Manhattan home.

The indictment unsealed on Monday against the well-connected financier came days after his arrest upon returning from overseas and just hours after federal agents used a crowbar to enter the townhouse.

The U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York is prosecuting Epstein, and they don't mess around. They win more than 90 percent of the cases that actually go to trial, and Epstein has good reason to be shaking in his boots at this point.

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And it is also extremely interesting to note that James Comey's daughter is one of the prosecutors on this case

Maurene Comey, daughter of former FBI Director James Comey, is reportedly a prosecutor in the new criminal case against convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. This details comes out of a new CNN report. The source is described as a person "with knowledge of the case."

Will that turn out to be significant?

We shall see as this drama plays out.

In the legal community, everyone has an agenda, and the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York certainly has an agenda in this case.

But what is their goal?

Why have they decided to pursue this specific case at this specific time?

Perhaps the primary goal is to nail Epstein to the wall once and for all. If Epstein is convicted of all the charges against him, he will spend the rest of his life in prison. And if that is all there is to this story, it won't be an enormous national scandal.

However, it could also be possible that the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York wants to use Epstein to get to one or more of his famous friends, and that is where things could get very "interesting".

And the fact that this case "is being overseen by the Public Corruption Unit of the SDNY" would seem to indicate that something is up

Second, what should we make of reporting that Epstein's prosecution is being overseen by the Public Corruption Unit of the SDNY? Short answer: It's too soon to say. It could mean that a public official is being investigated or will be charged with Epstein. That could be a minor public figure or a major one. It could mean that SDNY is investigating misconduct in the plea that Epstein was given in 2008. Or it could mean none of those things.

After everything that Epstein went through in 2008, you would think that he would clean up his life and get rid of all the stuff that got him into so much trouble in the first place.

But when authorities raided his home, they discovered a "vast trove" of photographic evidence

Prosecutors said a search of Epstein's Manhattan mansion after his arrest turned up a "vast trove" of nude photos of what appeared to be underage girls. Officials said in court papers that the pictures included some on CDs with handwritten labels, including "Misc nudes 1," "Girl pics nude" and the names of specific young women.

It has also previously been reported that in the old days Epstein would actually record "the sordid orgies he threw for VIPs at his luxury homes using cameras hidden in the walls of guest bedrooms", but it is not known if those recordings still exist or if authorities were able to find any such recordings when they raided Epstein's home.

In any event, there is clearly an enormous amount of evidence against Epstein already, and that means his only hope of avoiding prison for the rest of his life is to cooperate with authorities.

And as former federal prosecutor Elie Honig has pointed out , Epstein's former friends from Hollywood, Wall Street and Washington should be quite scared right now

We do not know if Epstein will cooperate, but even if he does not, others will very likely be implicated. It seems clear from the indictment that others helped Epstein run his alleged sex trafficking operation and otherwise participated in it. At least some of those names will come out in court proceedings, public filings, potentially trial and perhaps additional indictments. And it's worth noting that the Epstein case is being handled by the SDNY's Public Corruption Unit -- in my experience, human trafficking cases usually are handled elsewhere in the office -- which strongly suggests that public officials could be under a microscope here. Anybody who helped Epstein in any way needs to get a lawyer and get scared .

Of course Epstein could choose to sacrifice himself and protect his friends by not talking, but that isn't likely to happen. In fact, Jack Posobiec is reporting that Epstein's lawyers have already made it clear to the SDNY that their client will cooperate as long as he can get a reduced sentence

SCOOP: Epstein's lawyer has already made a proffer to SDNY. Epstein will agree to cooperate with the investigation, including giving up the names of individuals that paid for activities with underage girls in exchange for a maximum sentence not to exceed 5 years

In addition to Epstein's potential testimony, just a few days ago a judge ordered the unsealing of records in a related case that detail allegations of "sexual abuse" by "numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a well-known prime minister and other world leaders"

This news comes just days after a judge ordered the unsealing of nearly 2,000 pages of records related to a civil case that could reveal how he and his accused accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell allegedly trafficked underage girls

The documents that will be unsealed are from a defamation case that was settled after Epstein entered a guilty plea guilty to a single charge of soliciting and procuring a person under age 18 for prostitution.

Records in the defamation case contained descriptions of sexual abuse by Epstein along with new allegations of sexual abuse by 'numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a well-known prime minister and other world leaders.'

We will talk about who some of those individuals might be in the second part of this series which I will post later tonight on The Most Important News .

I have been writing about corruption in the political world for a long time , but this could be the scandal of all scandals.

So stay tuned, because I believe that things are about to get extremely interesting.


rosiescenario , just now

There appears to be a link to our state department and potentially the cia based on the plane that was used. More should be exposed on that in the coming days.

Basaltie2017 , 2 minutes ago

Where was Secret Service when Clinton was on these trips with Epstein? Did he ditch them? If so, he should be stripped of the detail because he clearly doesn't need them.

If the detail was with him and observing heinous crimes and did nothing then they should be prosecuted as well.

vienna_proxy , 41 seconds ago

(((secret service))) weren't they involved in raping girls in columbia under obama

pippi68 , 27 seconds ago

At least 5 times he left them behind.

HardAssets , 3 minutes ago

The question is: Will the American people have the courage to look at and face some very nasty, inconceivably horribl stuff ? (And how about the British people ? This has been going on there too for a very long time.)

Archeofuturist , 4 minutes ago

Potential? Sure. But obviously this guy isn't paying attention to how **** actually goes down. In my lifetime I can count the amount times justice was served on politically connected scumbags like this on one hand. I'd bet money he walks..... again. He just has way too much dirt on everybody.

TotalMachineFail , 9 minutes ago

Doom and gloom is suddenly expecting a turn around in the control grid fraud of a criminal hierarchy?

Somehow unregistered foreign agents without and exemption working in conjunction with the same of both sides of the pervbial aisle of the fraudulent criminally rigged now no longer existent JUdiciary is going to expose and round up the long lists including many chosed and put the screws to them are publicly?

Harvey's story dropped off the front page after about a week.

The investigation is going to have to start from the beginning and be done independently. There's a lot of criminals missed and many in the Federal fraud that's been eliminated. All are already expecting consequences for the sedition and treason. Adding the involvement or covering up of sex trafficking of minors, prostitution, ritual murder sacrifices and more has to be done completely outside the hierarchy and it's influence.

What a coincidence Comey's daughter is allegedly prosecuting. Wrong.

tripletail , 12 minutes ago

********! This redo-fake-crisis won't amount to shite, legally. Epstein was the front man for a Mossad honeypot operation - the results of which were shared with other western intelligence agencies. Will Epstein be ultimately sacrificed? In a carefully orchestrated public way, perhaps. Yet behind the scenes, not likely. IMHO.

ya_right , 12 minutes ago

And what about the parents of these minors that allowed or even put their kids into this danger?

JBLight , 11 minutes ago

Many of them orphans, kidnapped, or brought illegally into the country. They had this operation down to a science. Look at Syria. After the war finally calmed down, they find that tens of thousands of children are missing from orphange

bustdriver , 15 minutes ago

You don't hide cameras to photo yourself. There has to be a blackmail part of this. Where did his money come from? With all of the photographic evidence found he is not the only one that is quaking in their boots...

Let the sunshine in.

vienna_proxy , 16 minutes ago

sdny is deep state. and now that comey's daughter is working the case everyone knows everyone will skate free

SmilinJackAbbott , 13 minutes ago

Yep he then racks his brains for the reason the SDNY are suddenly acting on this. They have no choice. Thanks to Cernovich the stuff they've been hiding from the public will soon be public & would've exposed them as corrupt cover up artists for a pedophile network.

JerseyJoe , 8 minutes ago

And he used is own money. Cernovich is a hero and because he is an alt media blogger the media pimps will never mention him.

charlewar , 17 minutes ago

Will slick willy, when convicted in this action, as a former president get the upper or lower bunk in the slammer?

John Law Lives , 23 minutes ago

That was the best scene (imo) in Red Dawn (1984):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooy0GFMYafY

TheABaum , 23 minutes ago

But the MSM will celebrate P*ssy Riot attempting to hack elections in Alabama.

Justapleb , 12 minutes ago

The first youtube video I watched claiming to be "news" introduced one of the principle witnesses as a girl who worked at Mar a Lago.

Not that she was being raped by Clinton and whomever on Epstein's island. No, she was a Trump employee.

Another mentioned Epstein as having powerful connections, like Clinton and Trump. See? One sodomized her, and one paid her appropriate compensation for the job she did. That's the same thing, right?

Patriot Eke , 28 minutes ago

Sex trafficking should be punishable by death. So many young women (and men) disappear each year just in the USA, and they cannot all possibly be runaways. Plenty of evidence you're guilty of kidnapping and forcing children and young adults into sex? Stand against the wall. I'll gladly put a bullet in you. There would be no problem getting volunteers, and bullets are cheap.

JoeTurner , 27 minutes ago

Molloch and Lucifer would not be pleased if child trafficking were abolished.

JBLight , 25 minutes ago

Approximately 33,000 children missing in the US every year. By the numbers- Missing persons in the USA

And it's not just about the lucrative trafficking. A large portion of these children become **** "actors" after years of sexual trauma. Thus making the pigs even more money. This is why this operation has been so heavily guarded and protected.

buzzsaw99 , 36 minutes ago

scandal, yeah right. i doubt it will even make it into the msm. the evidence will be gathered and destroyed by comey's daughter. like father, like daughter. his crimes in florida have already been whitewashed. zhers are the only people in this country who even know this is going on. go ahead, ask someone if they've ever heard of epstein, they'll probably say welcome back kotter or some ****.

JBLight , 27 minutes ago

Where have you been the last 2 days?

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=jeffrey+epstein+arrest&t=h_&ia=news&iar=news

It's everywhere and will continue to grow.

TheABaum , 13 minutes ago

"If Catholic clergy pedophilia didn't do it."

Eighty percent of the abuse (caveat: one case of any is too much); wasn't "pedophilia" but more properly homosexual behavior. That it happened there was your first clue that it was everywhere.

In my relatively small area, there's been something like 8 or ten cases of middle 20's teachers-messing around with students. If they are boys, everybody says "lucky stiff". My mother (long, long ago) went to school with a girl who got knocked up by the gym teacher.

Now its organized and promoted.

romanmoment , 34 minutes ago

Just like "drain the swamp" and "lock her up", I have my evidence based doubts that anything will happen to anyone. I have just lost faith in accountability in the United States....no, I've lost faith in accountability in the world.

Here's the thing. I'm as perverted as the next guy, at least the next average American male. I appreciate beautiful women and if they're particularly enthusiastic about sex then I appreciate them even more.

But, and I mean this sincerely, I would never, ever physically or sexually harm a child. In fact, at 53 years old, I look at a 25 year old woman as more child than adult. The people who prey on children for sexual or physical domination are sick motherfuckers and are not men, I'd kill everyone of them willingly if I could. There's no rationale, no excuse and no forgiving people who hurt or exploit children. People like Epstein are rodents.

TheABaum , 11 minutes ago

I know we just got over Pride month, but digging chicks is normal for males, not perverted.

bunkers , 50 minutes ago

This will be bait and switch... Start with Epstein. Switch to Trump

Comey is the prosecutor

The judge is a Clinton appointee.

AG Barr and Rosen recused themselves.

The investigations are in Trump home towns, Manhattan and Palm Beach.

Yup, Bait and Switch.

Know thy enemy , 51 minutes ago

Good article but I did not find the deeper more insidious information that other media sources have determined was actually going on, i.e. Jeffery Epstein's business was blackmail.

Calling himself a Money Manager gave him the toolbox to invite his wealthy friends to his Island, get them very fucked up, and then let them have sex with his underage victims. Everyone of these very important and wealthy people were secretly filmed and subsequently blackmailed, for large sums, disguised as quarterly payments to his money management firm.

Many of these wealthy men and women are now themselves 'victims' are their own stupidity, sense of superiority, and misguided belief that they were above the law.

This is going to be historic........

Mustafa Kemal , 40 minutes ago

"This is going to be historic......."

If you really pull on this thread, you are going to uncover ALOT.

According to Handrahan

https://soundcloud.com/guns-and-butter-1/americas-traffic-in-child-***********-lori-handrahan-381

we have a huge, not just pedophile problem, but sado pedophelia industry dominated by the US and the UK.

Peak Finance , 1 hour ago

LOLZ

SDNY is where evidence goes to die

Just ask Weiner and the laptop with all of the secrets that just "disappeared"

This case will be closed by Monday, Maybe next Friday the latest

Remember these people investigated 30,000 emails in 72 hours somehow, and then just simply declared everyone involved innocent, and then dared anyone to do anything about it

dead hobo , 1 hour ago

So, according to the little black book, Hillary did not find her way to Orgy Island?

Makes sense to me.

Good way to clear an island.

El Vaquero , 1 hour ago

The little black book was a list of contact information for people. Lots of means of getting contact info and lots of reasons to have it. A name being in it doesn't imply much. It's the flight logs of the Lolita Express that people should be interested in.

William Dorritt , 1 hour ago

NSA if you are listening

If you are not actively monitoring every

Failure to intercept the Extortion and Blackmail calls that are coming in is a total failure to defend the US.

There is little to no doubt Epstein works for a State actor.

PGR88 , 1 hour ago

yeah, Epstein is bad - but I'd rather see John Brennan hanging from a lamppost for an attempted coup and treason against the Constitution. We won't see justice in either case.

Give Me Some Truth , 1 hour ago

Epstein will NOT be offered a deal. Whether he "gives up names" or doesn't give up names, he is going to prison for a significant amount of time.

Those he could "give up" will not be exposed.

I'm not saying that authorities couldn't offer him a deal if they wanted to, they could. But if they let Epstein make a deal, they would have to also investigate and prosecute all of the men who used the services of Epstein's army of underage "massage therapists."

Alas, the government does not want to go down this road, a road that would show the world the true nature of so many of our iconic "leaders."

If authorities really wanted to nab these people, they would have arrested and put pressure on his top assistant, Ms. Maxwell. They have not done this. Probably will not do this. This tells us they are not really seeking to "out" any of the Johns.

Epstein alone is the fall guy and perhaps a few officials that went along with that sham plea deal 10 years ago will get some kind of slap on the wrist.

Now, I guess Epstein could still "talk." Write a letter from jail or agree to a Barbara Walters interview in the pen if the prison system allowed such an interview (which they would not). But even if he did this, it wouldn't reduce his sentence ... so why do this?

Everyone breathes easier if a "deal" is NOT offered.

ZIRPY , 1 hour ago

If Eps has proof of sex with underage girls then he will get a deal.

Give Me Some Truth , 1 hour ago

The prosecutors also don't want to face the charge that they are "making a deal" with one of the world's most infamous sex traffickers and pedophiles. It's easy for them to not offer such a person a deal (especially after the "deal" he got last time).

Any "leverage" Epstein had disappeared when he was arrested. My guess is they are not going to let him out (even on bail) for a long, long time, if ever. He's too dangerous on the outside. They can control what he says or doesn't say a lot easier in a jail cell.

Even if he wanted to talk at this point, I'm not sure how he would get any words out to the world. He's kind of like Julian Assange was. He has no real way to communicate with the world.

Epstein thought he had all this leverage and in the end he didn't have any. Actually, his best hope might be if his former assistant threatened to "sing." He could threaten: You give me what I want or I'm going to make sure that Maxwell brings everyone down, etc.

But she ain't playing along and is keeping her distance from this guy. And, as noted, she hasn't even been arrested. She is as free as the breeze.

21st.century , 1 hour ago

it's a 20yr minimum for possession of any underage , **** images . I had unenviable duty to serve as a jury member on just such a case .

images in a footlocker of a guilty a-hole that possessed the locker ... piles of pictures ( not underage , but equally as bad ) stuck on walls

computer HD's jammed with images .... but the criminal images were found too.

keep in mind-- JE doesn't have to implicate others --- if others can be linked by evidence found-- then sdny has only one duty -- to arrest them too.

Anonymous IX , 45 minutes ago

If I remember correctly, las, the Jerry Lee marriage to his cousin was an enormous scandal. Most people, in that day and age, disapproved, and Jerry Lee suffered from their censure.

What's the difference between "having sex" and using someone for sex? Here's how Ms. Ward described the account from her sources:

What I had "on the girls" were some remarkably brave first-person accounts. Three on-the-record stories from a family: a mother and her daughters who came from Phoenix. The oldest daughter, an artist whose character was vouchsafed to me by several sources, including the artist Eric Fischl, had told me, weeping as she sat in my living room, of how Epstein had attempted to seduce both her and, separately, her younger sister, then only 16.

He'd gotten to them because of his money. He'd promised the older sister patronage of her art work; he'd promised the younger funding for a trip abroad that would give her the work experience she needed on her résumé for a place at an Ivy League university, which she desperately wanted -- and would win.

The girls' mother told me by phone that she had thought her daughters would be safe under Epstein's roof, not least because he phoned her to reassure her, and she also knew he had Ghislaine Maxwell with him at all times.

When the girls' mother learned that Epstein had, regardless, allegedly molested her 16-year-old daughter, she'd wanted to fight back. "At the time I wanted to go after him. I mean, physically, mentally, you know, in every way, shape, and form. And the advice I was given was, you know, he is so wealthy, he can fight you, he can make you look ridiculous, he can make your daughters look ridiculous, plus he can hurt them. And that was the thing that frightened me was that he would know where they lived and could possibly just send somebody when they walk the dog at night or something around the corner, and we'd never hear from them again," she told me.

When I put their allegations to Epstein, he denied them and went into overdrive. He called Graydon. He also repeatedly phoned me. He said, "Just the mention of a 16-year-old girl carries the wrong impression. I don't see what it adds to the piece. And that makes me unhappy."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/i-tried-to-warn-you-about-sleazy-billionaire-jeffrey-epstein-in-2003

Most guys don't "get it." We aren't talking "having sex." We are talking about using your power to gain physical and emotional control over a young girl, who may think she can handle herself, but allow me to disabuse of that antiquated notion. No matter how mature or sophisticated a young girl of 13-15 thinks she is, she cannot in the remotest stretch of anyone's imagination compete against an Epstein. Once he's convinced her to take off her clothes and do what he desires, she realizes how dumb she was. I was lucky. I was basically an out-of-control 13-15 (two alcoholic parents) years old, but I didn't care about money, fame, and material objects. I was just dumb lucky. And I hated to be controlled. And I was in rebellion against my parents and living situation at the time. I've had guys masturbate in front of me because I wouldn't give them what they wanted. I've seen a lot.

Reference Variable , 1 hour ago

Poor Bob Menendez. Poor Bill Clinton. Poor Tony Podesta.

Who will be implicated first? Who will roll first? LOL!

from_the_ashes , 1 hour ago

That happened quite some time back...

https://cloverchronicle.com/2019/01/05/massive-fire-spotted-on-private-island-owned-by-billionaire-jeffrey-epstein/

TBT or not TBT , 1 hour ago

This is only happening to Epstein now because the Clintons are now dispensable, and none of the other federal prosecutor abuse could get anyone to sing anything credible against Trump. Epstein will compose not just sing, at the request of the SDNY.

Clashfan , 1 hour ago

CONNECTION TO AIRCRAFT SHARED BY JEFFREY EPSTEIN, THE CIA, AND DYNCORP

Voat user Freed0mFighter uncovered a special report on Occurrences: Foreign and Domestic (archived)(original PDF)identifying the fact that one of Jeffrey Epstein's suspected trafficking aircraft shared the same tail number as a State department Bronco used under contract by DynCorp. The use of the tail number can be corroborated by official government records.[9]This would mean that Jeffrey Epstein trafficked underage girls using aircraft of the same tail number and during the same time period as DynCorp when they trafficked minors in Bosnia and other parts of the Balkan states. If issued by some sort of accident or if one of the two planes was decommissioned, the statistical odds of just two planes sharing the same number would still be over 1 in over 900,000.[10] Special thanks to User:PeterVenkman, and see also section on Connection to identified criminal activities in Bosnia

detached.amusement , 1 hour ago

GO AHEAD MAUREEEN, JUST TRY IT!!!!!!!!!

Samual Vimes , 1 hour ago

They fucked uo the secondary issues in the Weiner case pretty well.

Sp4Ce F@rCe , 42 minutes ago

Maurene Comey, daughter of former FBI Director James Comey, is reportedly a prosecutor in the new criminal case against convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein.

If his daughter has as much integrety as James....Epstein will walk.

alfbell , 23 minutes ago

They aren't investigating Epstein's whole sphere of activity. Not even looking into his island sex paradise. Plus, the judge is a Clinton appointee and one of the prosecutors is Comey's daughter. Rigged.

[Jul 10, 2019] Not NY FBI, but a Miami lawyer Paul Cassell who was responsible for reopening this case

Notable quotes:
"... The cover up & sweetheart deal Epstein got in 2008 is very similar in handling to the sweetheart deal Hillary got from the DOJ/FBI in 2016. ..."
"... Epstein helped start the Clinton Foundation in 2005 with $4 million and made continuous contributions in addition to shuttling Bill to Orgy Island 27 times ..."
"... Blaming it on Acosta is shutting down any investigation is negation of the truth. He was too low on the totem pole to cut this deal. He had to have approval from Main Justice. Mueller was FBI head at the time. ..."
"... Sex trafficking of children is a big business in the US & Epstein was involved according to TrafficKing: Jeffrey Epstein human trafficking case by Conchita Sarnoff. ..."
"... She is right. Pretty obvious. If not a state sponsor this punk would have been dead a long time ago. Someone is protecting him ..."
"... Lots of someones. Epstein had cameras in his home. He cultivated powerful people. Got himself on the Trilateral Committee with Henry Kissinger and on the board of the Rockefeller Foundation. Donated $30 million to Harvard & was friends with Larry Summer who was then Harvard president. He held fundraisers for prominent Democrats and donated to their campaigns. ..."
"... Bill Clinton was just one of his powerful "friends". This goes deep ..."
"... So according to Ann, it was some lawyer named Paul Casel (not sure of the last name spelling) that was responsible for reopening this case. So, this has nothing to do with Trump draining the swamp. In fact, it reads that the Miami Herald did more foot work than the current justice department. ..."
"... It is strange. But remember, it's the Miami Herald. Not the NY Times or the Washington Post. They probably didn't fell the need to control the Miami Herald as tightly, and a real reporter slipped through the cracks. ..."
"... Mike Cernovich - a lawyer and independent blogger who also uncovered the Congressional sex slush fund and got Conyers to resign - sued to have the records unsealed. ..."
"... Paul Cassell, former Federal District Judge from 2002-2007 represents some of the victims. He and Brad Edwards, also representing victims, have been instrumental in the civil cases and keeping this alive. ..."
"... Read the whole story from Conchita Sarnoff, an anti sex trafficking crusader who has investigated this story for years and wrote: TrafficKing: Jeffrey Epstein human trafficking case ..."
Jul 10, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

SummerSausage , 20 minutes ago

The cover up & sweetheart deal Epstein got in 2008 is very similar in handling to the sweetheart deal Hillary got from the DOJ/FBI in 2016.

In both years, Hillary was the presumed Dem nominee and shoo in for president.

Epstein helped start the Clinton Foundation in 2005 with $4 million and made continuous contributions in addition to shuttling Bill to Orgy Island 27 times.

That could have been very embarrassing for Hillary in 2008. May also explain Obama's sudden rise by the same people who covered up the Epstein affair.

Blaming it on Acosta is shutting down any investigation is negation of the truth. He was too low on the totem pole to cut this deal. He had to have approval from Main Justice. Mueller was FBI head at the time.

Even after Epstein did time and was registered in NY as a level 3 sex offender (highest classification) George Stephanopolous, Katie Couric, Chelsea Handler and Woody Allen came to his house for dinner and he kept thousands of pictures of nude children. Epstein felt protected.

Sex trafficking of children is a big business in the US & Epstein was involved according to TrafficKing: Jeffrey Epstein human trafficking case by Conchita Sarnoff.

Dems must know that cartels are trafficking kids for the sex trade over the southern border.

Berspankme , 34 minutes ago

She is right. Pretty obvious. If not a state sponsor this punk would have been dead a long time ago. Someone is protecting him

SummerSausage , 20 minutes ago

Lots of someones. Epstein had cameras in his home. He cultivated powerful people. Got himself on the Trilateral Committee with Henry Kissinger and on the board of the Rockefeller Foundation. Donated $30 million to Harvard & was friends with Larry Summer who was then Harvard president. He held fundraisers for prominent Democrats and donated to their campaigns.

Bill Clinton was just one of his powerful "friends". This goes deep.

MushroomCloud2020 , 31 minutes ago

So according to Ann, it was some lawyer named Paul Casel (not sure of the last name spelling) that was responsible for reopening this case. So, this has nothing to do with Trump draining the swamp. In fact, it reads that the Miami Herald did more foot work than the current justice department.

Trump even stated he knew nothing about the case. Strange that the media, which we all love to call fake, did its job pretty good this time???

Chupacabra , 10 minutes ago

It is strange. But remember, it's the Miami Herald. Not the NY Times or the Washington Post. They probably didn't fell the need to control the Miami Herald as tightly, and a real reporter slipped through the cracks.

SummerSausage , 9 minutes ago

Mike Cernovich - a lawyer and independent blogger who also uncovered the Congressional sex slush fund and got Conyers to resign - sued to have the records unsealed.

As he got low on funds the Miami Herald came in to assist.

Paul Cassell, former Federal District Judge from 2002-2007 represents some of the victims. He and Brad Edwards, also representing victims, have been instrumental in the civil cases and keeping this alive.

Read the whole story from Conchita Sarnoff, an anti sex trafficking crusader who has investigated this story for years and wrote: TrafficKing: Jeffrey Epstein human trafficking case

[Jul 10, 2019] And now a word from our State Sponsor: Top politicians, adolescent girls, what could go wrong?

Notable quotes:
"... Well, one big happy family they all are. I bet there are reunion photos of them all together somewhere on an island. ..."
"... can't wait until uniCRIME Bush Clan is brought down along with uniCRIME Clinton Clan in their Epstein crime caper...oh wait, its all in the wash. ..."
"... The President of the Mukasey, Acosta, Epstein deal?: George W. Bush. "I only hire the best." MOSSAD CIA handled Donald Trump. ..."
"... Mueller was FBI Director then. Do you think he would have passed up the chance for a super informant like that? Mueller's wet dream to have such information on the Elite and Powerful. Epstein certainly was working for the FBI, at least after his first arrest. ..."
Jul 10, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

beemasters , 1 hour ago

According to the Miami Herald, Acosta secretly negotiated with Jay Lefkowitz, a partner at Kirland & Ellis. Acosta was previously a partner in that same law firm. Ken Starr is another Kirkland attorney.

MushroomCloud2020 , 1 hour ago

Well, one big happy family they all are. I bet there are reunion photos of them all together somewhere on an island.

June 12 1776 , 1 hour ago

can't wait until uniCRIME Bush Clan is brought down along with uniCRIME Clinton Clan in their Epstein crime caper...oh wait, its all in the wash.

The President of the Mukasey, Acosta, Epstein deal?: George W. Bush. "I only hire the best." MOSSAD CIA handled Donald Trump.

Vitam Impendere Vero

Thom Paine , 2 hours ago

Mueller was FBI Director then. Do you think he would have passed up the chance for a super informant like that? Mueller's wet dream to have such information on the Elite and Powerful. Epstein certainly was working for the FBI, at least after his first arrest.

Savvy , 2 hours ago

Top politicians, adolescent girls, what could go wrong?

Good grief.

Mouldy , 3 hours ago

Epstein - links to elites

Douchbank collapse

China defaulting

JPM/CIA coke bust

These are mostly deep state operations, is there a war going on we aren't aware of ?

[Jul 10, 2019] Jeffrey Epstein Is the Ultimate Symbol of Plutocratic Rot by MICHELLE GOLDBERG

Notable quotes:
"... Powerful elites enabled the financier accused of trafficking underage girls ..."
"... Over the last couple of months, Ward told me, she's started going through transcripts of the interviews about Epstein she did more than 16 years ago. "What is so amazing to me is how his entire social circle knew about this and just blithely overlooked it," she said of his penchant for adolescents. While praising his charm, brilliance and generous donations to Harvard, those she spoke to, she said, "all mentioned the girls, as an aside." ..."
"... Both sides are likely right. The Epstein case is first and foremost about the casual victimization of vulnerable girls. But it is also a political scandal, if not a partisan one. It reveals a deep corruption among mostly male elites across parties, and the way the very rich can often purchase impunity for even the most loathsome of crimes. ..."
"... In the deal he never admitted having actual sex with any of the girls, and he insists he thought they were over 18, so basically all he has ever got a deal on was acts well short of sex with 16-18 years olds who were paid. ..."
"... Some of them named in the old indictment are now saying they were 2 years younger and had sex with all these VIPs. Doubt it. Still, Epstein's previous admissions mean nobody will believe him if a girl says she was 14 not 18, and he is a tempting target tor civil suits which testifying in a criminal case are a basis for. ..."
"... Cernovich and Dershowitz filed their suit on 19 JAN 2017, 10 days after Trump's inauguration. Obama's DoJ screwed up and the judge ruled in their favor 2.5 years later. Then Epstein's immediately arrested. ..."
"... This RT article reminds us the Republicans tried to use Bill's links with Epstein during the 2016 election, while providing other details. ..."
"... Perhaps Trump is the target? Time will tell. ..."
"... If Epstein was Mossad, then what is arch-zio Dershowitz doing in the trap? ..."
"... Mobster jeffrey epstein's wealth didn't come from being a "financier" ( he is a dull wit w/o market knowledge), it came from his fellow co-mobster , steven hoffenberger , swindling over $650 million from gullible goys in Towers Financial. ..."
"... Possible Mossad connection via Ghislaine Maxwell. https://www.unz.com/isteve/jeffrey-epstein-and-foreign-intelligence/ ..."
Jul 10, 2019 | www.unz.com

Originally from THE NEW YORK TIMES • JULY 9, 2019 • 17 COMMENTS

Powerful elites enabled the financier accused of trafficking underage girls

In 2003, the journalist Vicky Ward profiled Jeffrey Epstein , the financier indicted Monday on charges of sexually abusing and trafficking underage girls, for Vanity Fair. Her piece painted him as an enigmatic Jay Gatsby type, a boy from a middle-class family in Brooklyn who had scaled the rungs of the plutocracy, though no one could quite figure out how he made his money. It detailed dubious business dealings and mentioned that Epstein often had lots of beautiful young women around. But it left out Ward's most important finding.

Twelve years later, in The Daily Beast , Ward wrote about how, in the course of her reporting, two sisters allegedly preyed upon by Epstein, as well as their mother, had spoken to her on the record. But shortly before the story went to press, Ward wrote, the Vanity Fair editor Graydon Carter cut that section, saying, of Epstein, "He's sensitive about the young women." ( In a statement on Monday , Carter said Ward's reporting hadn't been solid enough.)

Over the last couple of months, Ward told me, she's started going through transcripts of the interviews about Epstein she did more than 16 years ago. "What is so amazing to me is how his entire social circle knew about this and just blithely overlooked it," she said of his penchant for adolescents. While praising his charm, brilliance and generous donations to Harvard, those she spoke to, she said, "all mentioned the girls, as an aside."

On Saturday evening, more than a decade after receiving a sweetheart plea deal in an earlier sex crime case, Epstein was arrested after getting off a private flight from Paris. He has been accused of exploiting and abusing "dozens" of minor girls, some as young as 14, and conspiring with others to traffic them. Epstein's arrest was the rare event that gratified right and left alike, both because it seemed that justice might finally be done, and because each side has reason to believe that if Epstein goes down, he could bring some of its enemies with him.

Both sides are likely right. The Epstein case is first and foremost about the casual victimization of vulnerable girls. But it is also a political scandal, if not a partisan one. It reveals a deep corruption among mostly male elites across parties, and the way the very rich can often purchase impunity for even the most loathsome of crimes. If it were fiction, it would be both too sordid and too on-the-nose to be believable, like a season of "True Detective" penned by a doctrinaire Marxist.


Mungerite , says: July 9, 2019 at 8:50 pm GMT

The funny thing about the Trump quote in the original NYMag article on Epstein is that it's probably the most honest description of the guy, with a none-too-subtle nod to the man's predilections.

http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/n_7912/

foolisholdman , says: July 9, 2019 at 9:31 pm GMT

"The Ultimate Symbol"? I beg leave to doubt it! I suspect that the plutocratic rot is very wide and very deep and "Kiddy fiddling" which is what Jeffrey Epstein seems to be accused of, is only a small (and not the worst) part of it. If he "sings" I think there is no telling how far it will go, but probably he won't and this whole evil mess will slink back into the shadows and silence, with the active help of the media.
Come to think about it, probably even if he does sing, that too will be supressed.

George , says: July 9, 2019 at 10:29 pm GMT

China feared CIA worked with Sheldon Adelson's Macau casinos to snare officials

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/22/china-cia-sheldon-adelson-macau-casinos

Sean , says: July 10, 2019 at 2:07 am GMT

Ward wrote about how, in the course of her reporting, two sisters allegedly preyed upon by Epstein, as well as their mother, had spoken to her on the record.

They said they were all over 18 in other words. He certainly had young women about but Michael Wolff said they ones he say on his plane were visibly late teens or twenty.

No way in hell would someone be trusted with billionaire's money who had ovbiously under age girls around him and was heading for a plea deal in which he might be under so much pressure he would reveal his clients' financial crimes . And it is hardly in keeping with the Gatsby image so important to him. I think he had the young but legal girls for show, no one saw the obvious children but him. He kept the criminal conduct away from visitors, especially ones he posed as a philanthropist to. Someone in his position could not afford to get a reputation for having criminal culpability in anything. He was tax scam artist, and secret sex offender.

On Saturday evening, more than a decade after receiving a sweetheart plea deal in an earlier sex crime case, Epstein was arrested after getting off a private flight from Paris. He has been accused of exploiting and abusing "dozens" of minor girls, some as young as 14, and conspiring with others to traffic them.

People with his money rarely plead guilty. He admitted guilt to get the deal. The new charges he is arrested on say he was the only customer or client , so "trafficking" is quite deceptive.

In the deal he never admitted having actual sex with any of the girls, and he insists he thought they were over 18, so basically all he has ever got a deal on was acts well short of sex with 16-18 years olds who were paid.

Some of them named in the old indictment are now saying they were 2 years younger and had sex with all these VIPs. Doubt it. Still, Epstein's previous admissions mean nobody will believe him if a girl says she was 14 not 18, and he is a tempting target tor civil suits which testifying in a criminal case are a basis for. I don't see him as being all that powerful because money makes you a continuing target of people wanting financial restitution from people down on their luck and no longer able to make money from their looks.

Getting a sweet plea deal for those things was just storing up trouble for the future for someone as rich as him.

karlof1 , Jul 11 2019 5:28 utc | 130
mrtmbrnmn @127

Cernovich and Dershowitz filed their suit on 19 JAN 2017, 10 days after Trump's inauguration. Obama's DoJ screwed up and the judge ruled in their favor 2.5 years later. Then Epstein's immediately arrested.

This RT article reminds us the Republicans tried to use Bill's links with Epstein during the 2016 election, while providing other details. Maybe the stories used in the Steele Dossier on Trump aren't from Russia at all but were collected through Epstein's operation?

Perhaps Trump is the target? Time will tell.

Shyaku , Jul 11 2019 5:38 utc | 132
Epstein, being richer, gets to act out Weiner's fantasy for approximately the same price as the fantasy. If Epstein was Mossad, then what is arch-zio Dershowitz doing in the trap?

- Shyaku

Krollchem , Jul 11 2019 5:46 utc | 133
"Jeffrey Epstein shipped a shredder from the U.S. Virgin Islands to his Palm Beach home in July 2008, shortly after reaching a non-prosecution agreement with then-U.S. Attorney Alex Acosta, maritime records show. Then, in March of this year, shortly after a Florida federal judge invalidated that agreement, Epstein shipped a tile and carpet extractor from the Virgin Islands to his Manhattan townhouse, the records show."

https://theintercept.com/2019/07/09/jeffrey-epstein-sex-trafficking-shredder/

anon , Jul 11 2019 7:19 utc | 135

Mobster jeffrey epstein's wealth didn't come from being a "financier" ( he is a dull wit w/o market knowledge), it came from his fellow co-mobster , steven hoffenberger , swindling over $650 million from gullible goys in Towers Financial.

I believe nearly all of these ((( "financiers" and "hedge fund managers" ))) are just money laundering for the massive Israhell mob. Most are operated from offshore banks, without auditing, I.e. soros' quantum fund.

curious man , Jul 11 2019 8:52 utc | 138
Posted by: asdf | Jul 10 2019 18:13 utc | 1

Possible Mossad connection via Ghislaine Maxwell. https://www.unz.com/isteve/jeffrey-epstein-and-foreign-intelligence/

Spying for Israel Is Consequence Free
http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/spying-for-israel-is-consequence-free/

[Jul 10, 2019] I can see this slicing the Gordian knot in multiple ways

Notable quotes:
"... This Tom Luongo guy has the naïveté of a 6 year old. He actually believes that Trump has enough courage and political power base to challenge the well connected high profile pedophile ring where the CIA and the FBI may well have been a principal participant. ..."
"... I've suspected there are two factions in DS, one pushing the NWO death and destruction route, the other more sane side pushing end of empire, conciliation and fixing the homeland. It would explain the weird reversals, half-hearted military strikes, contradictions in policy, stunning non sequiturs that come out of the White House, the crazy then sane tweets, obviously written by different people. We may never know. ..."
"... I'm still waiting to find out what was on Weiner's laptop. ..."
Jul 10, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

NYC80 , 7 minutes ago

I can see this slicing the Gordian knot in multiple ways.

First, I know someone who does basically what Epstein does, so I get how it works. He's at a slightly lower level, I suppose, but part of his job is clearly to lure prominent people, and those on a strong upward trajectory, into compromising situations in order to blackmail them. He tried to do this to me, twice. I told my wife, at the time. She was somewhat incredulous (she has met him many dozens of times, as well, and he's charming), but, ultimately, she agreed there was no other explanation.

I've had time to contemplate all this, and one thing struck me - I still talk to this person. He's extraordinarily well connected. He's fun to be around, even if I haven't visited certain locations with him. I would never, in a million years, want him to be my enemy, and that's why I've never disclosed to anyone other than my wife any specifics.

I'm hopeful it will all come out, as this type of thing has been used to facilitate corruption, but I also feel sorry for the people whose lives will be ruined, and especially for their wives and children. For what it's worth, people should go easy on them. I was lucky. I enjoy drinking, at least enough of one to definitely know how I respond to alcohol. The first time this happened, I was sharing a glass of ridiculously expensive and delicious scotch with the individual I referenced. I suddenly realized I was far more drunk than I should have been based on what I'd had. It was from his private stash, and I'm positive he'd slipped something in the drink. He'd been asking some odd questions, and had just invited me to a mansion, in NYC, for a sort of "party" (it could easily have been at Epstein's house, as we are in similar circles). I was about to agree to go when I realized just how odd the situation was. I excused myself, immediately ordered an Uber, and abruptly left without a proper goodbye to get into the car. I passed out on the drive back to my apartment, but the driver woke me up and I managed to stumble inside and get to bed.

If I hadn't had that moment of clarity, or if there'd been no Uber and he'd simply offered to have his driver take me home on his way to the party, I could very easily have ended up in one of those CDs full of compromising information. I got lucky. These other guys didn't. When their names are dragged through the mud, we should cut them a little slack.

napper , 8 hours ago

This Tom Luongo guy has the naïveté of a 6 year old. He actually believes that Trump has enough courage and political power base to challenge the well connected high profile pedophile ring where the CIA and the FBI may well have been a principal participant. Expect some suicides and mysterious accidents when things begin to get saucy.

The scandal is too big to be uncovered.

YAMAHA32073 , 8 hours ago

Donald was signing along to Mc Hammer, cant touch this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo

IvannaHumpalot , 9 hours ago

Trump did F*** all. Epstein has been arrested for one reason only. Mike Cernovich started a legal case to get the documents on his trial unsealed. It would have looked too bad if the contents of that hit the headlines and nothing was done. Trump can get f****d

dickbutt down-under , 11 hours ago

pelosi's daughter is unveiling her top twenty fave child rapists.

https://twitter.com/sfpelosi/status/1147657745253855233

(same link in article)

Julot_Fr , 14 hours ago

Good article but as usual, one must seek the lie by omission by Luongo.. in that case it should be that Epstein is israeli agent and this law suit should brake some shakles from 'foreign interference' is us policies..

𝑲𝒓𝒂𝒛𝒚 𝑼𝒏𝒄𝒍𝒆 , 14 hours ago

I wonder if Epstein will even make it to trial? My thought is there is, or will be a price on his head. There are too many Elites, with too much to lose, to ever risk Epstein squealing.

Shift For Brains , 12 hours ago

Watch for signs like MSM news stories that say:

If you see those types of stories, Unca Jeffy's lifespan will be measured in days or a few weeks. He'll be found dead of an overdose, bullet to the head or massive (induced) heart attack.

"So tragic, we could have broken open this case and caught a lot of bad people but now (sigh) we'll just never know."

ChaoKrungThep , 15 hours ago

Trump is a punk. He doesn't allow; he is sometimes allowed. He follows orders; his own orders are ignored. Just watch his mumbling about events obviously beyond his ken. He's led by the nose the whole time. Which's safe. That fool could start a war over cold coffee.

yogibear , 16 hours ago

Photos of Bill Clinton a under-aged girls somewhere? Drunk with power.

Rubicon727 , 17 hours ago

Is this another piece of "journalism" by Tom Tuongo? If so, beware.

He's the same writer who heralded Italy's Salvino because he had started the domino effect with "Mini-Bots" in Italy. WRONG!! Luongo reminds my well informed sources in Europe as someone, a foreigner looking afar at an issue. As a result. Luongo was wrong about Mini-bots.

He's committed the same OOPS ..... errors, repeatedly, over the last few months.

The guy doesn't even understand how the US Legal System is largely paid off by the 1% Billionaires, like Epstein, and/or, the judges who have won lucrative positions high in the court system based on their allegiance to the top 5% super wealthy.

Is-Be , 11 hours ago

Goodness! Is there no hope then? May I suggest nuclear war to rid the planet of all this evil life?

Totally_Disillusioned , 17 hours ago

Make no mistake about Epstein's arrest...he's the sacrificial lamb to get Trump. Epstein is expendable - he was sloppy and arrogant.

Even if he takes a few Dimwits with him, it will be worth it if they get Trump.

The Deep State has run out of options eliminating Trump...he's too well protected, mil intel has tightened up the loose bolts and POTUS favorability ratings are on the move upward - now over 50%.

They'e tried everything from trying to gin up war with Russia, Syria, NoKorea and Iran - didn't work. So it's back to the fake innuendo and false smearing.

ChaoKrungThep , 15 hours ago

I've suspected there are two factions in DS, one pushing the NWO death and destruction route, the other more sane side pushing end of empire, conciliation and fixing the homeland. It would explain the weird reversals, half-hearted military strikes, contradictions in policy, stunning non sequiturs that come out of the White House, the crazy then sane tweets, obviously written by different people. We may never know.

Smi1ey , 17 hours ago

I'm still waiting to find out what was on Weiner's laptop.

Also, this time of year we remember Seth Rich.

Maybe there should be a vigil.

Drop-Hammer , 18 hours ago

Uh, don't be too sure. The Deep State/D.C. Swamp/(((Elites))) protect their own. Jeffrey is expendable and will very soon suffer a Seth Rich 'suicide' with two bullets in his back or have an Acme safe falling on his head type accident.

The idea is that they need to get rid of Jeffrey, so they can bury away the whole thing in time for the 2020 election. No sense in having a loose cannon pedo out there causing controversy.

SirBarksAlot , 15 hours ago

But do they need Jeffrey, now that they have the vault of photos labeled with the names of the pedos participating in the ****???

Generation O , 18 hours ago

Nobody is commenting on the shallowness of sexual allegations as determinative of national and global policies. Can we please discuss the theft of tens of trillions of dollars for the elites' survival facilities, inexcusable military waste, and for ridding nations of their children for oil, Sumerian artifacts, and cozy alliances with thugs who are on their way out in historical terms?

If you only knew how issues such as paedophilia have formed the secretive fabric of American intelligence agencies' obsessions as expressed in their collusively-produced films. What a bloody curiousity to behold impassioned and suggestive rhetoric regarding allegations of paedophilia when there has not been anywhere near the impassioned interest in - for example - the annihilation of more than 600,000 Iraqi boys and girls for oil and Sumerian artifacts. And that number apparently pales - if you listen to statements by the Speaker of Iraq

's Parliament - to the number of Christian children who have been beheaded and otherwise slaughtered by America's ISIS terrorists. If it turned out that Tony Blair delighted himself with teenagers down in the Caribbean (although with the $50 million given to him for the Iraq sellout, he should have been able to buy anything he wanted), how does that compare to having supported the Bushes in what was done to the Iraqi people and nation?

They even bombed Iraq's only facility that produced baby products. And then there was Serbia, Rwanda, Yemen, etc. etc. etc. where American "intervention" or the lack of it (Rwanda) cost hundreds of thousands more lives for no good reason. But yeah, leave the kids alone.

We may need them in a decade or two to kill other peoples' kids. The older I get, the less I am averse to the role of a pariah, watching a nation dutifully satiate itself with films profiting from Government's cruel crimes.

ComradeChe , 19 hours ago

Epstein will roll over and start singing. There was stash of Lolita happy snaps in his safe, and likely there are moving pictures-- videos-- stashed somewhere. Given his guest list on Pedo Island there are likely to be a few surprises.

The question is-- will Epstein even make it to his trial. Whitey burger was an embarrassment to the FBI, and he didn't last six hours in the General Population. If you think it was an "administrative oversight" that put him there you are living under the wrong rainbow.

If Jeffery lives through the next six months, I'll be astounded. In the mean time, some of his friends will soon be heading for their nuclear bolt holes in the south pacific.

AKKadian , 19 hours ago

Well I'll be damned. Luongo being objective at least a little bit! It's about the filth in high places. Taking money is one thing, child rape well that is evil and that cannot be tolerated.

Stop Bush and Clinton , 19 hours ago

Unfortunately, this is just wishful thinking.

Trump has nothing to do with Epstein's arrest (remember that Trump is also on the list of Epstein's passengers!). He has been arrested because there's some people in the justice system who aren't totally corrupted (the arrest happened because a judge decided a previous judge's verdict was invalid), and Trump couldn't do anything to stop it.

Epstein will either be released quickly with an apology saying the arrest was in error, or else he'll be found dead in his cell (of "natural causes" of course) before he can spill the beans on either Clinton or Trump, or any of the other criminals who joined him.

FreedomWriter , 11 hours ago

I doubt that, Epstein's arrest is the latest in a major sweep of human traffickers and pedos within the US and worldwide. The more they arrest, the more will squeal. And the gloves are off now. Don't forget Trump's EO from 2017:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-blocking-property-persons-involved-serious-human-rights-abuse-corruption/

The order rightly singles out the national security implications of high-level blackmail and will allow the seizure of assets. A lot of bricking right now in DC, I suspect.

This was tailor-made to take down people like Epstein, particularly when the blackmail material is recovered (likely already the case). Expect high-level resignations, arrests, suicides and worse.

Enjoy the show.

Stop Bush and Clinton , 7 hours ago

I hope you're right, but I don't think so.

That executive order can be read in 2 ways.

Read it as someone who likes Trump, and you see an executive order designed to go after the likes of Epstein and possibly even Clinton.

Read it as someone who strongly distrusts Trump (I think he's the lesser evil compared to Hitlery Clinton and he'll likely be the lesser evil in 2020 again, but especially after his embassy move, his warmongering in Syria, his backing out of the Iran deal [one of 2 things Obama did in 8 years that I agreed with], his failure (at least so far) to drain the swamp and lock her up, etc., I think he can't be trusted), and you see an executive order designed to go after Putin, Xi, Rouhani, Maduro and other foreign leaders the Deep State doesn't like (it's rather easy to make some exaggerated claim of Russia, China, Iran or Venezuela being involved in human rights violations, and then apply the EO to their leaders).

I can't tell for sure which reading is the intended one -- of course those who trust Trump will argue that he wrote it in a way that could be read to be all about Putin and friends to keep the Epsteins in the dark, and equally Never Trump-ers will argue he wrote it in a way that can be read to be all about Epstein to keep his supporters in line. Again either side could be right, so far we don't know what the real intention is.

The fact that Comey's daughter is on the Epstein case makes me think they're out to destroy the blackmail material instead of recovering it - but of course I could be wrong or she could have been assigned to the case by someone other than whoever opened it.

I hope there will be a lot of high-level arrests and resignations - but I fear all that will happen is Epstein's sentence will be reduced to a slap on the wrist in exchange for destroying the blackmail material and some statement that all the "crazy conspiracy theorists" are wrong, he never met Clinton, and "Bill Clinton" on his flight logs is actually a code name for someone else. ("Vladimir Putin thought it was funny to go by the codename Bill Clinton...")

Boing_Snap , 19 hours ago

Some wishful thinking, but the political hatchet material in keeping Epstein roasting in this stew of legality makes the most sense I've heard so far.

FreedomWriter , 11 hours ago

When the names start leaking out, the political blowback will be epic. Voters will be watching who sides with who.

So far only Christine Pelosi seems to be making (stupid) noises. Imagine what will happen if Bill Clinton is dragged in?

TomGa , 20 hours ago

It seems obvious that this is a big reason why the deep state has been so fixated on removing Trump by any means necessary and initiated a coup against him. Thus it makes ANYONE who is or actively supports Never-Trumpers, Democrats, the DNC, etc (McCabe, Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Bill, Hillary, Pelosi, Feinstein, Schumer, etc., and the entire MSN come to mind) complicit in the attempted cover up of years of pedophilia and sexual exploitation and trafficking of minors and possibly of obstruction. Hell, maybe even RICO statutes apply.

[Jul 10, 2019] Neoliberal elite suicide rate might increases dramatically over the next six months.

Notable quotes:
"... US gives Israel billions each year. Israel gives some of that money to Epstein for a hedge fund front. Epstein buys island, planes, mansions, power and influence. Hires attractive under age girls for sexual acts with elites. Tapes the sexual acts. Sends tapes back to Mossad. Blackmails elites for money and favors. Sends money and favors back to Mossad. Epstein keeps the vig. Elites just **** their pants. Elites suicide rate increases dramatically over the next six months. ..."
"... Yes, the blackmailing would not just be for money but foreign policy actions too. And it isn't just the US, it's the UK too. Hence both suckers are trying to start a war with Iran. ..."
"... CCI has the goods on a third of congress and the whole msm. ..."
"... I am not holding my breath for your prediction xbkrisback. Appointing Comey's daughter as the chief prosecutor tells a sorry tale. And Comey and Mueller are best buds. ..."
"... Epstein will not give up the big names. Bubba took 26 trips to Pedo Island on the Lolita Express to refresh his tan. ..."
"... The power structure runs on pedophilia. And the horror of it is that pedophilia is just the tip of the iceberg regarding the abuse of children. Where is Carlos Danger's laptop with Huma's huge "life insurance" file on it? You know, the one that made grizzled NYPD detectives puke when they opened it. ..."
"... Epstein outdoes Berlusconi ..."
"... Have another look at Tony Podesta's art collection. http://ibankcoin.com/zeropointnow/2016/11/26/sick-lets-revisit-the-podesta-penchant-for-pedophilic-cannibalistic-and-satanic-art/#sthash.6jj0GpQo.dpbs ..."
"... I never understood why people claimed Podesta had child abuse links until I read that article. It is enough to make even a hardened Podesta supporter cringe. ..."
"... Coulter's take on this sounds very plausible, because there certainly was evidence gathering by Epstein. ..."
"... By the way, that was the favorite tactic of the old pervert that ran the FBI ... J. Edgar Hoover. He would gather evidence, then have a couple of his agents pay the offender a visit, warning them to be careful, while delivering the clear message that the Director has the goods on you. ..."
"... If Epstein goes to prison (a real prison) for any length of time, that would negate the idea of state sponsorship, would it not? Conversely, if he gets another sweetheart deal, that would confirm it. ..."
Jul 10, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

xbkrisback , 1 hour ago

I think I figured this scam out. US gives Israel billions each year. Israel gives some of that money to Epstein for a hedge fund front. Epstein buys island, planes, mansions, power and influence. Hires attractive under age girls for sexual acts with elites. Tapes the sexual acts. Sends tapes back to Mossad. Blackmails elites for money and favors. Sends money and favors back to Mossad. Epstein keeps the vig. Elites just **** their pants. Elites suicide rate increases dramatically over the next six months.

smacker , 1 hour ago

Yes, the blackmailing would not just be for money but foreign policy actions too. And it isn't just the US, it's the UK too. Hence both suckers are trying to start a war with Iran.

cayman , 46 minutes ago

CCI has the goods on a third of congress and the whole msm. It's why elections haven't mattered in decades. It's why congress can have a 9% approval rating and yet nothing changes. CIA has so many offshore sources of revenue now, it is sovereign now.

RoyalDraco , 17 minutes ago

I am not holding my breath for your prediction xbkrisback. Appointing Comey's daughter as the chief prosecutor tells a sorry tale. And Comey and Mueller are best buds.

Epstein will not give up the big names. Bubba took 26 trips to Pedo Island on the Lolita Express to refresh his tan.

5 years at Club Fed and a list of names no one ever heard of. The power structure runs on pedophilia. And the horror of it is that pedophilia is just the tip of the iceberg regarding the abuse of children. Where is Carlos Danger's laptop with Huma's huge "life insurance" file on it? You know, the one that made grizzled NYPD detectives puke when they opened it.

HideTheWeenie , 1 hour ago

Epstein outdoes Berlusconi ... Takes bunga bunga parties to the next level - and on the road - in the air - island hopping

Coulter is right ... Nobody in financial circles ever bumped into Epstein. Nobody, nobody knows the guy outside of the teenage ***** connection.

johnwburns , 1 hour ago

Have another look at Tony Podesta's art collection. http://ibankcoin.com/zeropointnow/2016/11/26/sick-lets-revisit-the-podesta-penchant-for-pedophilic-cannibalistic-and-satanic-art/#sthash.6jj0GpQo.dpbs

cat2005 , 21 minutes ago

I never understood why people claimed Podesta had child abuse links until I read that article. It is enough to make even a hardened Podesta supporter cringe.

I need some mind bleach after reading that.

RayUSA , 1 hour ago

Obviously, the more powerful people that are involved, the less chance this has of going anywhere.

Coulter's take on this sounds very plausible, because there certainly was evidence gathering by Epstein.

There would be no reason for that unless it was going to be used in the future for black mail.

By the way, that was the favorite tactic of the old pervert that ran the FBI ... J. Edgar Hoover. He would gather evidence, then have a couple of his agents pay the offender a visit, warning them to be careful, while delivering the clear message that the Director has the goods on you.

herbivore , 2 hours ago

If Epstein goes to prison (a real prison) for any length of time, that would negate the idea of state sponsorship, would it not? Conversely, if he gets another sweetheart deal, that would confirm it.

[Jul 09, 2019] Epstein and the conversion of politicians into "corrupt and vulnerable" brand

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... The Epstein case has all the earmarks of CIA protection of an asset. ..."
"... Successful entry into politics requires candidates to first "tag themselves" with a "corrupted and venerable" "CAV" badge? ..."
"... Is the CAV Badge the weapon that has corrupted the intelligence services and stable of politicians in nearly every nation in the world? Did Colin Powell flash a CAV badge as he spoke to UN focus about the most likely presence of non existent WMDs that led to w__ in Iraq? ..."
Jul 09, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

lysias , Jul 9 2019 0:53 utc | 91

The Epstein case has all the earmarks of CIA protection of an asset.

snake , Jul 9 2019 4:03 utc | 99

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/07/08/trumpsteingate-the-coverup-of-donalds-little-girl-fetish-hits-high-gear/

Journalism. =>has disclosed the tunnel, and a few of its investigators are exploring its contents, expecting to find at the end of this tunnel Successful entry into politics requires candidates to first "tag themselves" with a "corrupted and venerable" "CAV" badge?

Wonder if this has traction in the persons involved in Grace I, the failure of JCPOA.

Is the CAV badge the weapon that has corrupted nearly every nation state in the western world?

Politicians make promises, and then within hours for unexplained reasons, reverse them..Hmmm?

Is the CAV Badge the weapon that has corrupted the intelligence services and stable of politicians in nearly every nation in the world? Did Colin Powell flash a CAV badge as he spoke to UN focus about the most likely presence of non existent WMDs that led to w__ in Iraq?

How can CAV badge victims be identified and isolated from politics?
The CAV badge could explain so many USA positive, American negative events?

[Jul 09, 2019] Will Epstein be finally brought to justice. Zerohedge commeters are not convinced...

If anything those comments are a troubling sign of the level of delegitimization of the neoliberal elite.
Jul 09, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Sinophile , 20 hours ago

Gabbard is NOT a member of the CFR. She has by her own admission, attended some meetings as an invited guest. According to her, it was to engage members and find out what their inside game is. I don't know if Gabbard is for real. I voted for Trump because I perceived him to be the anti-war and anti-intervention candidate. Period. So, as I said, I don't know what to think about the lady. I do now understand however, why some individuals in olden times became hermits.

beemasters , 22 hours ago

Epstein's arrest tells me he's now out for blood.

Dotard has no control over what Epstein will say. Mossad does and it is the one out for blood.

Justapleb , 22 hours ago

Mike Cernovich got records unsealed that prove Epstein got away with serial raping and pimping for elites that were then blackmailed.

It is not because Trump is out for blood. It is because nothing could stop the criminal conduct of prosecutors being exposed.

The #Metoo crowd knew Clinton was a violent rapist, and sent uniformed, armed officers out to retrieve interns for sex whie governor. Smoking a cigar while having his cigar smoked by Monica Lewinsky, while talking to a Chinese official on the phone.

So no, this won't do anything but continue proving how the #Metoo movement are just leftist hypocrites.

ZD1 , 22 hours ago

"The news is speculative about whether Epstein was being protected by Robert Mueller's special counsel's office, and why the Department of Justice acted now, given that he's been problematic for years. There's also his role as a bigfoot Democrat donor, same as Ed Buck and other perverts who've financed the Democrats. But one thing's pretty clear, based on a tweet by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's daughter Christine: Democrats knew.

All kinds of Democrats are going to be found in Epstein's little black book of clients, not just Bill Clinton.

President Trump, by contrast, banned the pervert from his Mar-a-Lago club years ago. So much for pinning the scandal on Trump as Democrats had hoped."

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/07/so_the_epstein_bust_means_democratic_faves_may_roll_out_of_the_woodwork_nancy.html

scottyji , 22 hours ago

> Maybe this is the moment of Peak Swamp?

WONDERFUL!!!

JGResearch , 22 hours ago

Image Credits: Genevieve de Manio via Getty Images .

The photo provides further proof of Epstein and his associates' close ties to the Clinton dynasty.

Epstein's pimp Maxwell, whose social circle includes members of the UK royal family, has been named in several lawsuits as the woman who helped procure and transport underage girls which provided the billionaire massages and ultimately sexual favors.

The Miami Herald has more on Maxwell's connections to Epstein:

Lawyers for Epstein's victims, in court filings, have often likened Epstein's sex operation to an organized crime family, with Epstein and Maxwell at the top, and below them, others who worked as schedulers, recruiters, pilots and bookkeepers.

For her part, Maxwell, whose social circle included such friends as Bill and Hillary Clinton and members of the British Royal family, has been described as using recruiters positioned throughout the world to lure women by promising them modeling assignments, educational opportunities and fashion careers. The pitch was really a ruse to groom them into sex trafficking, it is alleged in court records.

At least one woman, Sarah Ransome, claimed in a lawsuit that Maxwell and Epstein threatened to physically harm her or destroy any chance she would have of a fashion career if she didn't have sex with them and others.

Maxwell has thus far managed to escape charges, but a lawyer for one of the women suing Epstein predicts she'll eventually be swept up in the sex trafficking litigation.

"The one person most likely in jeopardy is Maxwell because the records that are going to be unsealed have so much evidence against her," said David Boies, the attorney for Epstein accuser Virginia Roberts Giuffre. "She is in a particularly vulnerable position and will have an interest in cooperating, even though she may have missed that opportunity."

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article232385422.html

Im4truth4all , 21 hours ago

Those 26 trips by Billy Boy on the Lolita Express are only the ones in the log book. How many were there that were not logged? Isn't it amazing that the mainline press never picked up on this. It just shows how corrupt and fraudulent they are. I hope there is a deal and Epstein furnishes the names of his associated scum with proof. I wonder how many congressmen, senators, Judges, etc. There are.

LEEPERMAX , 21 hours ago

Just in . . .

Setting-Up Trump

https://youtu.be/yjuegava1AU

ardent , 21 hours ago

Most IMPORTANT name in Epstein's little Black Book: TRUMP.

LEEPERMAX , 21 hours ago

Flight logs show Bill Clinton flew on sex offender's jet much more than previously known

https://www.foxnews.com/us/flight-logs-show-bill-clinton-flew-on-sex-offenders-jet-much-more-than-previously-known

Dabooda , 21 hours ago

And Hillary went to the sex slave island at least six times .

my new username , 21 hours ago

Wikileaks had a Hillary email about Chelsea bringing a young Haitian girl into the USA, past immigration, on one of those CGI/State Department/Haiti Earthquake flights from Port au Prince.

8iron , 21 hours ago

so Trump is now deciding who to prosecute AND tell the SDNY to do it? This author is as retarded as the Left.

Epstein's case is being unsealed. SDNY knew this was coming so as to not look like idiots, they found some "new" victims. This guy makes most the ***-pedo-sex perverts (but I repeat myself) look like Rabbi's and he needs his d*ck connected to 'ol sparky but WTF?

Something else is going on...clearly nothing being reported or guessed (like above)

Spectorman , 22 hours ago

There are so many ways for these mutually guilty power rapists to cut deals with each other and avoid the real rap. Some patsys might get snipped, but thinking this will be the stake in the heart seems wishful thinking. These guys are busy raping America with an information/internet/media chokehold and a money printing press. That's probably bigger than child rape, and it will take more than a federal prosecutor to stop it.

beemasters , 22 hours ago

The author's theory doesn't make sense at all. They are all Lolita Island visitors. They are friends. Dotard would have implicated himself if he was the one taking Epstein route to get to Killary. Killary is much more vicious and vindictive and will drag him down along with Epstein. Dotard wouldn't dare!

There is already enough evidence to throw the Clintons in jail by the private-server case alone.... if Dotard wanted them them in jail. He really doesn't.

Buck Johnson , 23 hours ago

So true, it's hard to justify ******* and having sex with 14 year old girls. That is why no one is defending this piece of **** and when he starts to sing it's going to take down alot of people (ALAN DERSHOWITZ, hate the ******).

I totally agree that this guy has blackmail material on everyone, everyone. A man like this that was able to do what he was doing for years and still get the president, Alan and alot of others to go to his private island knowing what he did.

Nope, this man is a dirt bag that thought he had the fix in and he went ham in having sex with these girls. Not realizing that someone else in power could go after him and force him to rat out any and everyone.

With this so public there is no way that the fed is going to give him anything light, he's going away for decades unless he could out people to help his case.

from_the_ashes , 23 hours ago

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jul/8/william-barr-ag-says-hes-recused-jeffrey-epstein-c/

Mr. Barr said he is recused because he once worked for one of the law firms that represented Epstein "long ago," the report said. He did not name the law firm.

bobcatz , 23 hours ago

Tom Luongo is filtering this event through a deep-seated hope that Trump the Potus is not too far from Trump the candidate he voted for.

Hate to tell you, Tom, you just got played. Nothing of your estimation will occur. If anyone goes down, it'll be some insignificant nobodies.

Meatballs , 23 hours ago

https://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2019/07/08/the-jeffrey-epstein-rabbit-hole-goes-a-lot-deeper-than-you-think/

Heroic Couplet , 23 hours ago

CNN reported this morning that Epstein's arrest ropes in Trump's Labor Secretary, Alexander Acosta, who evidently was Epstein's Florida attorney who let Epstein walk.

swmnguy , 23 hours ago

No, Acosta was the US Attorney in Florida during the GW Bush Administration, who let Epstein walk over the full-throated objections of every attorney on his staff. Acosta went around behind their back, behind the court's back, to give Epstein a sweetheart deal that raised eyebrows throughout the legal community at the time, in early 2008.

Epstein's actual attorney was somebody else, who wrote Acosta a very grateful letter thanking Acosta for going beyond even what Epstein's own attorney was hoping for in terms of clemency.

There's a reason Acosta did that; beyond the insipid excuses Acosta has gotten away with until now. Just as there's a reason Attorney General William Barr just recused himself on all matters Epstein; above and beyond the stupid and unconvincing reasons Barr just gave.

SummerSausage , 23 hours ago

Acosta worked for the DOJ and the way Epstein's case was handled is almost identical to the way they handled Hillary a few years later.

Only difference is Mueller was head of FBI for the Epstein investigation.

Acosta didn't have the authority to give the deal on his own. It had to come from higher up

j0nx , 22 hours ago

Agreed. US attorneys don't do **** unless the AG tells them to. It's preposterous to think the SDNY is some rogue agency running around prosecuting who they want. If Bill Barr says no then they say yes sir. Of course all of this comes from up high. It's either that or Bill Barr like Jeff Sessions has lost all control of his department.

June 12 1776 , 23 hours ago

A pathetic useless attempt to appease status quo uniCRIME, uniPARTY chimp army.

"But something had to be done to keep our faith in our political and social institutions intact. Because otherwise that way leads to only chaos and collapse."

Wrong, through out all human history, all criminal, unconstitutional outlaw, political and social institutions natural law and faith of nature is COLLAPSE AND DESTRUCTION, one way or another.

bobcatz , 23 hours ago

Tom Luongo is filtering this event through a deep-seated hope that Trump the Potus is not too far from Trump the candidate he voted for.

Hate to tell you, Tom, you just got suckered. Nothing of your estimation will occur. If anyone goes down, it'll be some insignificant nobodies.

SirBarksAlot , 23 hours ago

Maybe.

But I think this is the big payback for their failed attempt to impeach him via a fabricated "dossier." This is the first chance he has been out from under the shadow of that witch hunt that was supposed to prevent this investigation into the Satanists from going forward.

He's just playing Bolton and his buddies by keeping them by his side. Letting them think they're running the show, like they did under Bush, then deciding not to invade Iran at the last minute. Where is Bolton now? Mongolia? He gives a little with the space program, then takes away from the expensive, endless wars to nowhere.

That's why the British tanker is stuck at the mouth of the Strait of Hormuz instead of running right though it. Britain royally fucked up.

Solio , 1 day ago

George Washington: "If the laws are to be trampled upon with impunity and a minority is to dictate to the majority, there is an end put at one stroke to republican government." September 9, 1774 at the beginning of the Whiskey Rebellion in Western Pennsylvania, from Ron Chernow's book "Alexander Hamilton," 2004, p. 473

Nunyadambizness , 1 day ago

I most certainly hope that the author is correct, and this vile corrupt sewer in DC gets weeded out--forcefully if necessary.

We the People have allowed unelected bureaucrats to ru(i)n our lives for far too long, protected by those who lust for power and who will do anything for it--yes Cankles, I'm speaking of you AND your former boss Barry Obozo, among dozens (if not hundreds) of others in the sewer. Protected by a wink-and-a-nod to those in power, they've done whatever they wanted knowing that they were untouchable. Here's hoping that this is just the first of dozens of arrests and ultimately convictions of these scumbags and their kin.

Drain the SEWER. FLUSH DC STARTING AT THE TOP.

SummerSausage , 1 day ago

Just a reminder - Mueller was head of the FBI during the Epstein investigation. If Trump had been involved in any way Mueller would have found a way to put it in the Mueller report.

turbojarhead , 23 hours ago

I think Kunstler is exactly right-this is the Trump faction counterstrike.

Conservative Treehouse actually caught something I did not in the indictment:

While these items were only seized this weekend and are still being reviewed, some of the nude or partially-nude photographs appear to be of underage girls, including at least one girl who, according to her counsel, was underage at the time the relevant photographs were taken. Additionally, some of the photographs referenced herein were discovered in a locked safe, in which law enforcement officers also found compact discs with hand-written labels including the following:

"Young [Name] + [Name]," "Misc nudes 1," and "Girl pics nude."

The defendant, a registered sex offender, is not reformed, he is not chastened, he is not repentant;6 rather, he is a continuing danger to the community and an individual who faces devastating evidence supporting deeply serious charges." ( cloud – pdf link )

Notice the young Name + NAME------gee, you think that NAME might be the creeps Epstein was blackmailing? Hahahahhh

SummerSausage , 23 hours ago

That info didn't come from the indictment I don't think. It came from the letter to the judge about bail.

The indictment was drawn up to arrest Epstein. The search of his home took place at the same time as the arrest or just after.

Reportedly, Epstein had quite a few surveillance cameras in his homes. It will be interesting to know what's on the CD's. Hard to believe he didn't have some "insurance" tucked away for a rainy day.

SummerSausage , 23 hours ago

Acosta wasn't Epstein's lawyer. He was US Attorney for S Fl.

The Epstein treatment reads like a dress rehearsal for the Hillary FBI/DOJ whitewash - except instead of just the associates getting of scot-free Hillary did, too. (read the Miami Herald series from Nov https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article220097825.html

Since Trump hasn't fired him but this story has been circulating for more than 6 months, Acosta was probably ordered to follow the deal cut at the highest levels of Mueller's FBI and the DOJ bureaucracy.

Acosta may well know where the bodies are buried.

NumberNone , 1 day ago

The people in the 'deviant' circles got comfortable after the Obama election. They put the people they wanted in power and the Evil Queen Hillary was guaranteed to be President to reside over 8 years of destroying their enemies. Life was going to be good. There was no reason to hide or be afraid.

Look at Epstein, the guy got off with a handslap and was so fearless rather than destroy his kiddie-****...he still kept in the open.

Now they are in a panic and throwing everything they can at Trump. If you are facing the death sentence, nothing is off-limits to save yourself.

If you are right or left in your political beliefs and think that this sort of absolute evil needs to be weeded out then please shut the hell up about Trump or Clinton and simply demand that no stone be unturned in the pursuit of justice. A golden opportunity has been placed in front of all of us to purge this scum.

Occams_Razor_Trader_Part_Deux , 1 day ago

Pelosi's daughter:

Christine Pelosi warns it's 'quite likely that some of our faves are implicated' in 'horrific' Epstein case.

What does it say when some of your "faves" are pedophiles?

jutah , 1 day ago

BullFuckinShit. He's had 3 years as President and many years prior to that where he was aware of exactly what was going on and did and said nothing . Oh, correction, he did say something when he praised Epstein; ""I've known Jeff (Epstein) for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with . It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."

It's too late for that ****. That ship has sailed. These traitors should have been executed on day 1. All the evidence of criminal activities was well documented before you even became president. You are a sorry sack of **** coward to let this continue for so long and in my book an accomplice to it- you and ever other neo-zio-con who went along with it. Now, youre all worried about your re-election campaign, image and being indicted yourself. **** off you Orange Clown. Go ahead and bomb Iran as a distraction as your masters order you to do

Kafir Goyim , 1 day ago

There's video of Trump saying Clinton would have trouble because of his frequent and suspicious (no Secret Service) associations with Epstein. There is a record of Trump helping prosecutors going after Epstein. There is record of Trump barring Epstein from Mar a Lago.

I think you are a little confused ... or engaged in purposeful disinformation, which is more likely.

3rdWorldTrillionaire , 1 day ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=10&v=0vh0AklSXkU

SummerSausage , 23 hours ago

Next time, don't quote Fusion GPS. The article that quote came from was a puff piece about Epstein from 2002. It extolled his brilliance and philanthropy with quotes from the Dem Sen Leader, Harvard scientists and just about everyone they could find.

At the time, Epstein served on the board of the Trilateral Commission with Kissinger, Summers and a dozen CEO's of Fortune 50 companies, the Rockefeller Foundation and Harvard.

SirBarksAlot , 23 hours ago

No kidding!

He really does have a blackmail racket going on there!!!!!!!

WhackoWarner , 22 hours ago

Let's not disregard Prince Andy. (old article from Guardian but still...)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/10/jeffrey-epstein-decade-scandal-prince-andrew

Not one person should be spared in this garbage.

AL Tru , 1 day ago

Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell were running a Mossad blackmail operation.

Rahm Emmanuel was kicked out of the Clinton WH by the FBI. They had a file on him "Security Risk"...then he got back in with Obama ?

Trump is too smart for the blackmail ****. Roy Cohn taught him that.

BUT Jared Kushner is Trumps Achilles heel. Kushner's father spent two years in prison for blackmail/extorsion.

ZD1 , 1 day ago

Epstein hung with Democrats and donated to them.

No doubt Epstein found what the commie muzzie *** from Kenya craved?

Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker, Katie Couric, George Stephanopoulos, and Woody Allen are some of the celebrities who reportedly traveled and partied with Epstein in the past.

Even Stephen Hawking made a visit to Epstein's island.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/stephen-hawking/11340494/Stephen-Hawking-pictured-on-Jeffrey-Epsteins-Island-of-Sin.html

leodogma1 , 1 day ago

Props to Michael Cernovich, and then there's the make-up Queen Shep Smith who show's Epstein and Trump together, Trump banned this Fukk Epstein from his club and the Clinton's had enough frequent flyer on Epstein's plane to Lolita Island for 2 round trip tickets to Paris. Shepp & the golden sperm seed piss punks of Murdoch must share something in common wonder what it is?

JBLight , 1 day ago

As this continues to pour out, I look forward to seeing the faces of the people I know who voted for Hillary. They voted for child trafficking.

John Law Lives , 1 day ago

This article sounds like speculation, but I am ready to see privileged scumbags get their due. This has been a long time coming (imo).

BandGap , 1 day ago

This is the opening of the portal to hell for a lot of kids' agonies, even deaths.

Watch the names of the rich and famous tumble out. If you read previous articles you know that they also seized tapes Epstein was holding of young girls with older men. This is what fuels the blackmail, and hence the corruption.

The Weiner laptop is also in play with the NXVIUM convictions.

Duc888 , 1 day ago

https://neonnettle.com/features/1409-major-hillary-clinton-donor-to-be-indicted-in-child-sex-trafficking-case

Duc888 , 1 day ago

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-25/clinton-silsby-trafficking-scandal-and-how-media-attempted-ignorecover-it

runningman18 , 1 day ago

The Clintons remain free and Trump keeps elitists like Ross, Pompeo and Bolton in the White House. Comey's daughter is one of the prosecutors for Epstein and Epstein is already claiming immunity. He might go to jail again, he might not. But nothing is going to happen with the Epstein thing as far as the fall of the banksters. Nothing.

pmc , 1 day ago

I don't think Trump is behind his arrest. I think it's the head NY prosecutor trying to make a name for himself in order to run for president at a late time! We'll see where this all goes but my money is on the procecutor!

onewayticket2 , 1 day ago

Trump should be "out for blood" but it's the SDNY...and we KNOW they are "out for blood"....trump's. So my read is the opposite. The SDNY is never going to do something that will harm the clintons. The ONLY goal is keeping Trump out of office for these guys. all roads lead to trump at the SDNY...it's job 1.

evoila , 1 day ago

It's ahead of muellers testimony for a reason.

yaright , 1 day ago

Agree, timing is everything

Snípéir_Ag_Obair , 1 day ago

Pedosadist Elites Panic: Congress Bill Wants To End Child **** In Pentagon Networks; Epstein Arrested, Files To Be Unsealed On Powerful Clients

America is receiving a hell of a Christmas in July present – a bill in Congress is being pushed to end child **** sharing in Pentagon networks, and Jeffrey Epstein was arrested for child trafficking. Additionally, an appeal court ordered that all files pertaining to Epstein's case of wealthy powerful clients will be released to the press and public.

Congress is aiming to halt child **** distribution within Pentagon networks according to a bipartisan bill (The End Network Abuse Act) that was introduced by Reps. Abigail Spanberger (D-VA) and Mark Meadows (R-N.C.)

The National Criminal Justice Training Center, one of the groups that has thrown its weight behind the bill, reported in 2018 that DOD's network was ranked 19th out of almost 3,000 nationwide networks on the amount of peer-to-peer child *********** sharing.

Spanberger described the issues of child sexual exploitation and abuse as "horrific crimes."

"The notion that the Department of Defense's network and Pentagon-issued computers may be used to view, create, or circulate such horrifying images is a shameful disgrace, and one we must fight head on," Spanberger said in statement. (Source: The Hill )

https://www.activistpost.com/2019/07/pedosadist-elites-panic-congress-bill-wants-to-end-child-****-in-pentagon-networks-epstein-arrested-files-to-be-unsealed-on-powerful-clients.html

alibi , 1 day ago

So... if I send child **** to anyone the entire law enforcement apparatus on planet Earth descends upon my location with the full weight of every alphabet agency. Yet, when child **** is trafficked within a government agency we need to pass a bill thru Congress in order to stop it. WTF.

Nekoti , 22 hours ago

Rules for thee, not for me.

chunga , 1 day ago

That's some pretty wild speculation there, but I hear angels singing just the same.

caconhma , 1 day ago

<Epstein's Arrest Tells Me Trump Is Now Out For Blood> Wrong.

Trump and Bill Clinton were willing participants in these crimes.

Don't be surprised when Trump's name will appear in all legal documents. Remember, the lead prosecutor is from Demo New York and Epstein will behave no different from Trump's loyal lawyer Cohen. After all, this case was not resurrected from dead to promote justice in Americ

Friedrich not Salma , 1 day ago

Do a Youtube search for * Trump BBC 1998 * and jump 5 minutes into the vid. You will realize Trump will be out for blood. He waits until the right time.

Here's the link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4CqF4hjCGI

BBC: "You talk in your book about getting even. The importance of getting even. Is revenge sweet?"

Trump: "I believe strongly in getting even. If someone has hurt you. If someone's gone out of their way to hurt you. I think that if you have the opportunity, you should certainly go out of your way to do a number on them."

Here's another version when he was on Charlie Rose in 1992 (although it's in a CNN clip so they try to slam Trump at the end."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuoRRDtdHbY

I didn't believe in the "the indictments are coming from Jeff Sessions" lines, but I do believe Trump will nail these people when the time presents itself and that time is coming up fast.

dunlin , 1 day ago

He didn't even write the book.

BaBaBouy , 1 day ago

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-labor-sec-alexander-acosta-helped-epstein-plea-deal-2019-7

JRobby , 1 day ago

How did Epstein get so rich?

Blackmail !!!!!!

Traders say they were not aware of his presence in the markets.

Just confirms how many sick perverts are in these high positions

[Jul 09, 2019] Ann Coulter Thinks Epstein Had a State Sponsor Was Running a Blackmailing Operation

Jul 09, 2019 | www.infowars.com

ANN COULTER THINKS EPSTEIN HAD A "STATE SPONSOR" & WAS RUNNING A "BLACKMAILING" OPERATION

"Something much bigger is behind this"
Paul Joseph Watson | Infowars.com - JULY 9, 2019 Comments Ann Coulter Thinks Epstein Had a "State Sponsor" & Was Running a "Blackmailing" Operation

Conservative commentator Ann Coulter says that sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein had a "state sponsor" backing him and that his operation was a way to blackmail powerful men.

During an appearance on 790 KABC, Coulter suggested that Epstein is merely the front man for a far more powerful network.

"Epstein according to both the girls accounts, he wanted them to have sex with powerful men, come back to him and report on it, describe what they wanted what their fetishes were and he had cameras throughout the house so this is obviously for blackmailing purposes," said Coulter.

"It just seems to me something much bigger is behind this -- perhaps a state sponsor -- powerful enough people it just seems to me there's something a very powerful force behind what's going on here and I am still nervous about this not coming to a conclusion, somehow this getting compromised," she added.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/eNbK-hkZMLY

Coulter said that it remained a mystery as to how Epstein became a billionaire and that the source of his money should be investigated.

Former President Bill Clinton attempted to distance himself from Epstein last night, claiming he only flew on the infamous 'Lolita Express' private jet four times despite flight logs showing at least 26 trips.

As we reported yesterday, speculation is swirling that Epstein may give up names of influential people who used his network in order to secure a maximum prison sentence of no more than five years.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/o1GQehNcZZw

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[Jul 09, 2019] Luongo- Epstein s Arrest Tells Me Trump Is Now Out For Blood by Tom Luongo

Notable quotes:
"... Serial pederast Jeffrey Epstein is going to be arrested again. The big questions are why? And why now? I never doubted Donald Trump's sincerity in wanting Hillary in jail. But the reality is that Trump was not in any position to do so. Until a few months ago. ..."
"... Mueller, his staff of hatchetmen, the Obama administration and the rest of the corrupt old-guard in D.C. fully expected to be allowed free rein to convict Trump politically of Obstruction of Justice based on an interpretation of Federal Statutes that could only be justified in the world of Philip K. Dick's Minority Report. When that didn't happen, they are now looking at potential blowback from a vain and vindictive man occupying the supposedly most powerful office in the world. ..."
"... It seems John Bolton has been more president than Trump recently. ..."
"... I was cautiously optimistic that Trump would turn the corner on his presidency now that Mueller, impeachment and the rest of it would lift from his shoulders. His foreign policy maneuvers didn't fill me with much, if any, confirmation of this hope. ..."
"... Because this goes directly to the heart of the matter. Trump left the Clintons' social circle in disgust and I'm convinced he ran to stop her corrupt sell out of the U.S. Never forget that, while corruption is rampant in D.C., it is not all-pervasive. It's not a black and white thing. ..."
"... The level of corruption of the Departments of Justice, State, Treasury and the intelligence agencies needed to coordinate the RussiaGate hoax all to serve as Hillary's revenge porn was too much for enough people. ..."
"... And there are still plenty of people in all of those departments willing to step up now that the board state has changed. Remember back when Trump said we should just leave Hillary be, she's been through enough? That wasn't him capitulating to the Deep State, that was him offering her a way out. He knew then what was going on but thought he was powerless to stop it, politically. ..."
"... And Robert Mueller is up to his neck in this. Because it was Mueller who helped Epstein mostly get off the hook the last time and had the court documents sealed. ..."
"... Even if Barr and Trump have a marriage of convenience here, it doesn't matter. What matters is that Epstein will no longer be able to hide behind Clinton bag men and will this time have to cut a real deal to stay out of gen pop. ..."
"... This Epstein arrest is a testament to what happens when the pendulum swings too far in one direction. Where despicable people get away with the most heinous acts simply because they are connected in a web of corruption and venality. ..."
"... Maybe this is the moment of Peak Swamp? Maybe it's the moment where we can see things begin, ever so slightly to improve. Is it too little, too late? Likely. But something had to be done to keep our faith in our political and social institutions intact. Because otherwise that way leads to only chaos and collapse. ..."
Jul 09, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Tom Luongo,

"Bernie Birnbaum is a horse of a different color, ethics-wise that is...

...as in he ain't got none!"

-- Johnny Caspar, "Miller's Crossing"

Serial pederast Jeffrey Epstein is going to be arrested again. The big questions are why? And why now? I never doubted Donald Trump's sincerity in wanting Hillary in jail. But the reality is that Trump was not in any position to do so. Until a few months ago.

When Attorney General William Barr ended the Mueller investigation back in February that was a turning point. I talked about it back then in a piece called " The Old Political Order is Just Old ."

Mueller, his staff of hatchetmen, the Obama administration and the rest of the corrupt old-guard in D.C. fully expected to be allowed free rein to convict Trump politically of Obstruction of Justice based on an interpretation of Federal Statutes that could only be justified in the world of Philip K. Dick's Minority Report. When that didn't happen, they are now looking at potential blowback from a vain and vindictive man occupying the supposedly most powerful office in the world.

But is that really the case anymore? It seems John Bolton has been more president than Trump recently.

I was cautiously optimistic that Trump would turn the corner on his presidency now that Mueller, impeachment and the rest of it would lift from his shoulders. His foreign policy maneuvers didn't fill me with much, if any, confirmation of this hope.

But domestically signs were there that he had stabilized the battlefield.

Epstein's arrest tells me he's now out for blood.

Because this goes directly to the heart of the matter. Trump left the Clintons' social circle in disgust and I'm convinced he ran to stop her corrupt sell out of the U.S. Never forget that, while corruption is rampant in D.C., it is not all-pervasive. It's not a black and white thing.

William Barr may not be a Boy Scout or anything but even he, like Trump, has a disgust circuit. And that circuit has a threshold.

The level of corruption of the Departments of Justice, State, Treasury and the intelligence agencies needed to coordinate the RussiaGate hoax all to serve as Hillary's revenge porn was too much for enough people.

And there are still plenty of people in all of those departments willing to step up now that the board state has changed. Remember back when Trump said we should just leave Hillary be, she's been through enough? That wasn't him capitulating to the Deep State, that was him offering her a way out. He knew then what was going on but thought he was powerless to stop it, politically.

To go after her you go after the person who is her Achilles' heel, Epstein through his association with Bill. Because what if this isn't just about Bill's antics? But this is more than just Hillary and Bill. This is likely far deeper a rabbit hole than anyone in D.C. wants to admit. Don't think for a second that Epstein hasn't been blackmailing very prominent people for years. Because he has. And they are all now scared to death.

And Robert Mueller is up to his neck in this. Because it was Mueller who helped Epstein mostly get off the hook the last time and had the court documents sealed.

Now that Mike Cernovich worked to get those documents unsealed, we have an arrest warrant a week later by a Justice Department led by someone, at this point, loyal to Trump.

Even if Barr and Trump have a marriage of convenience here, it doesn't matter. What matters is that Epstein will no longer be able to hide behind Clinton bag men and will this time have to cut a real deal to stay out of gen pop.

This process will be slow and painful, but it will grind to the kind of conclusion that will only benefit Trump's re-election bid. It will be an epic drip feed of leaks, innuendos, implications, indictments and the rest.

Because there comes a point where the Alinsky method of accusing your enemy of the thing you do backfires when it's raping 14-year-old girls.

Once this thing gets a head of steam, once the #MeToo crowd gets a hold of this, there won't be anyone left standing. I always said Hillary would indict herself. Her insane lust for power and revenge against her obstacles led us here. And it will lead her to the kind of shame and disgrace that befits her avarice.

When Nancy Pelosi's daughter is out there signaling for her mother on this immediately, you know this is bad. Pelosi doesn't roll over for nothing folks. Think what you want about her but she's a pitbull. And she rolled over on border wall funding last week.

This Epstein arrest is a testament to what happens when the pendulum swings too far in one direction. Where despicable people get away with the most heinous acts simply because they are connected in a web of corruption and venality.

Maybe this is the moment of Peak Swamp? Maybe it's the moment where we can see things begin, ever so slightly to improve. Is it too little, too late? Likely. But something had to be done to keep our faith in our political and social institutions intact. Because otherwise that way leads to only chaos and collapse.

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[Jun 30, 2019] Two cheers for chickenhawks

Notable quotes:
"... And how many congresspeople served in combat in Iraq or Afghanistan? How many presidential candidates had boots on the ground in combat theaters? The answer is one. Here is the moral decay of America's ruling elites boiled down to a single word. ..."
Jun 30, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

And how many congresspeople served in combat in Iraq or Afghanistan? How many presidential candidates had boots on the ground in combat theaters? The answer is one. Here is the moral decay of America's ruling elites boiled down to a single word.

Giant Meteor , 5 hours ago link

Moral leaders, lead. There is your moral decay.

44_shooter , 5 hours ago link

It didn't matter when they did. McStain fought, and absolutely LOVED war. Plenty of the Hawks served and fought, it's like frat boys who were hazed, carrying on the hazing.

[Jun 30, 2019] Following In Rome's Footsteps Moral Decay, Rising Inequality by Charles Hugh Smith

Notable quotes:
"... And how many congresspeople served in combat in Iraq or Afghanistan? How many presidential candidates had boots on the ground in combat theaters? The answer is one. Here is the moral decay of America's ruling elites boiled down to a single word. ..."
Jun 30, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Charles Hugh Smith via OfTwoMinds blog,

Here is the moral decay of America's ruling elites boiled down to a single word.

There are many reasons why Imperial Rome declined, but two primary causes that get relatively little attention are moral decay and soaring wealth inequality. The two are of course intimately connected: once the morals of the ruling Elites degrade, what's mine is mine and what's yours is mine, too.

I've previously covered two other key characteristics of an empire in terminal decline: complacency and intellectual sclerosis, what I have termed a failure of imagination.

Michael Grant described these causes of decline in his excellent account The Fall of the Roman Empire , a short book I have been recommending since 2009:

There was no room at all, in these ways of thinking, for the novel, apocalyptic situation which had now arisen, a situation which needed solutions as radical as itself. (The Status Quo) attitude is a complacent acceptance of things as they are, without a single new idea.

This acceptance was accompanied by greatly excessive optimism about the present and future. Even when the end was only sixty years away, and the Empire was already crumbling fast, Rutilius continued to address the spirit of Rome with the same supreme assurance.

This blind adherence to the ideas of the past ranks high among the principal causes of the downfall of Rome. If you were sufficiently lulled by these traditional fictions, there was no call to take any practical first-aid measures at all.

A lengthier book by Adrian Goldsworthy How Rome Fell: Death of a Superpower addresses the same issues from a slightly different perspective.

Glenn Stehle, commenting on a thread in the excellent website peakoilbarrel.com (operated by the estimable Ron Patterson) made a number of excellent points that I am taking the liberty of excerpting: (with thanks to correspondent Paul S.)

The set of values developed by the early Romans called mos maiorum, Peter Turchin explains in War and Peace and War: The Rise and Fall of Empires , was gradually replaced by one of personal greed and pursuit of self-interest.

"Probably the most important value was virtus (virtue), which derived from the word vir (man) and embodied all the qualities of a true man as a member of society," explains Turchin.

"Virtus included the ability to distinguish between good and evil and to act in ways that promoted good, and especially the common good. Unlike Greeks, Romans did not stress individual prowess, as exhibited by Homeric heroes or Olympic champions. The ideal of hero was one whose courage, wisdom, and self-sacrifice saved his country in time of peril," Turchin adds.

And as Turchin goes on to explain:

"Unlike the selfish elites of the later periods, the aristocracy of the early Republic did not spare its blood or treasure in the service of the common interest. When 50,000 Romans, a staggering one fifth of Rome's total manpower, perished in the battle of Cannae, as mentioned previously, the senate lost almost one third of its membership. This suggests that the senatorial aristocracy was more likely to be killed in wars than the average citizen...

The wealthy classes were also the first to volunteer extra taxes when they were needed A graduated scale was used in which the senators paid the most, followed by the knights, and then other citizens. In addition, officers and centurions (but not common soldiers!) served without pay, saving the state 20 percent of the legion's payroll...

The richest 1 percent of the Romans during the early Republic was only 10 to 20 times as wealthy as an average Roman citizen."

Now compare that to the situation in Late Antiquity when

"an average Roman noble of senatorial class had property valued in the neighborhood of 20,000 Roman pounds of gold. There was no 'middle class' comparable to the small landholders of the third century B.C.; the huge majority of the population was made up of landless peasants working land that belonged to nobles. These peasants had hardly any property at all, but if we estimate it (very generously) at one tenth of a pound of gold, the wealth differential would be 200,000! Inequality grew both as a result of the rich getting richer (late imperial senators were 100 times wealthier than their Republican predecessors) and those of the middling wealth becoming poor."

Do you see any similarities with the present-day realities depicted in these charts?

And how many congresspeople served in combat in Iraq or Afghanistan? How many presidential candidates had boots on the ground in combat theaters? The answer is one. Here is the moral decay of America's ruling elites boiled down to a single word.

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[Jun 28, 2019] On Chosen-mess by Gilad Atzmon

Notable quotes:
"... Jeffrey Epstein's story is similarly abusive. The convicted sex offender prostituted dozens of underage girls and should have spent the rest of his life in jail. Again this is no 'one-off' abuse of an underage child, he was a serial sex predator. ..."
"... According to Joseph Recarey, the lead Palm Beach detective on the case, Epstein was essentially operating a "sexual pyramid scheme." ..."
"... The Vox writes that the girls and women who reported abuse by Epstein, meanwhile, were markedly powerless. Most of them "came from disadvantaged families, single-parent homes or foster care, Many of the girls were one step away from homelessness." ..."
Jun 28, 2019 | www.unz.com

Jeffrey Epstein's story is similarly abusive. The convicted sex offender prostituted dozens of underage girls and should have spent the rest of his life in jail. Again this is no 'one-off' abuse of an underage child, he was a serial sex predator.

According to Joseph Recarey, the lead Palm Beach detective on the case, Epstein was essentially operating a "sexual pyramid scheme."

The Vox writes that the girls and women who reported abuse by Epstein, meanwhile, were markedly powerless. Most of them "came from disadvantaged families, single-parent homes or foster care, Many of the girls were one step away from homelessness."

In November 2017 the genius comedian Larry David was criticized in the Jewish press for admitting on Saturday Night Live that many of those accused of sexual harassment in Hollywood are Jewish.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/G0eeNijdv3I?feature=oembed

... Alan Dershowitz , who was a member of Epstein's legal team and was later accused by one of the victims' lawyers of himself participating in the sex trafficking ring .

[Jun 21, 2019] Disgraced Vice President of Walt Disney Convicted of Child Rape, Gets 6 Years by Matt Agorist

Jun 21, 2019 | thefreethoughtproject.com

Portland, OR -- A former top level Walt Disney executive was sentenced to prison this month for nearly seven years for child rape. Michael Laney, 73, who was the Vice President of Walt Disney was found guilty of four counts of first-degree sexual abuse and sentenced to 81 months in prison.

After the sentencing, Laney's attorneys pleaded with the judge to suspend the sentence, claiming that Laney's wife would suffer if her husband goes to jail.

According to Oregon Live , Laney's wife's doctor, Blain Crandell, submitted a letter on Laney's behalf, saying his wife "could be expected to suffer serious consequences to her health and well-being" without an in-home caregiver, a role her husband had been filling.

Thankfully, the judge and district attorney did not see it that way. In response to this request, Multnomah County Deputy District Attorney Charles Mickley called the claims "peculiarly offensive and insulting."

"Defendant wholly ignores the compelling evidence of his guilt presented at trial, including the evidence of his longstanding sexual interest in children," Mickley wrote.

Laney will also have to serve an additional 120 months of probation after prison, pay a $4,000 fine, and register as a sex offender.

... ... ...

This article originally appeared on The Free Thought Project .

Matt Agorist Matt Agorist is an honorably discharged veteran of the USMC and former intelligence operator directly tasked by the NSA. This prior experience gives him unique insight into the world of government corruption and the American police state. Agorist has been an independent journalist for over a decade and has been featured on mainstream networks around the world. Agorist is also the Editor at Large at the Free Thought Project. Follow @MattAgorist on Twitter , Steemit , and now on Minds.

[Jun 18, 2019] America's Managerial Elite Has Failed, But We Can't Get Rid of Them

Jun 19, 2019 | www.oftwominds.com

The system is broken, and the managerial elite will keep it broken because it serves their interests to keep it broken.

America's managerial elite came to do good and stayed to do well--at the expense of everyone beneath them. Now that they've entrenched themselves at the top of the status quo, there's no way to dislodge them, even as their failure to address what's broken, much less actually fix what's broken, insures systemic breakdown.

In government, the managerial elite is known as The Deep State : those who remain in power regardless of who's in elected office. In local government, managerial elites often shift positions, moving from elected office to a plum position in the bureaucracy where they can draw a big paycheck out of sight until they retire.

In Corporate America, managerial elites also move around, leaving sinking ships (that they may well have helped sink) as needed, and moving to think tanks or academia if their failures start multiplying.

Changing elected officials does nothing to dislodge our managerial elite overlords. The new mayor, governor or president comes and goes, and all the major institutions--education, higher education, healthcare, national defense, critical infrastructure--continue down the same path of enriching entrenched insiders while the institution fails its core missions.

If you think this chart of soaring student loan debt is a sign of "success," you are 1) delusional 2) protected from the dire consequences of this failure 3) getting your paycheck from this failed system. That in a nutshell is the state of the nation: those who are protected from the consequences of failure are loyal to the Establishment, as are the millions drawing a paycheck from systems they know are irredeemable failures.

Let's review the central institutions of the nation:

  1. Healthcare: a failed system doomed to bankrupt the nation.
  2. Defense: a failed system of cartels and Pentagon fiefdoms that have saddled the nation with enormously costly failed weapons systems like the F-35 and the LCS.
  3. Higher Education: a bloated, failed system that is bankrupting an entire generation while mis-educating them for productive roles in the emerging economy. (I cover this in depth in The Nearly Free University and the Emerging Economy and Get a Job, Build a Real Career and Defy a Bewildering Economy .)
  4. Foreign policy: Iraq: a disaster. Afghanistan: a disaster. Libya: a disaster. Syria: a disaster. Need I go on?
  5. Political governance: a corrupt system of self-serving elites, lobbyists, pay-to-play, corporate puppet-masters, and sociopaths who see themselves as above the law.

In Why Our Status Quo Failed and Is Beyond Reform , I explain why the only possible output of these systems is failure .

The sole output of America's managerial elite is self-serving hubris.

In an open market, failed leadership has consequences. Customers vanish and the enterprise goes bankrupt, or shareholders and employees rally to fire the failed leadership.

In our state-cartel system, failed leadership only tightens its grip on the nation's throat. The Deep State can't be fired, nor does it ever stand for election. The two political parties are interchangeable, as are the politicos who race from fund-raiser to fund-raiser.

It's tempting to blame the individuals who inhale the wealth and power of our failed system, but it's the system, not the individuals , though a more corrupt, craven, self-serving lot cannot easily be assembled.

Centralized hierarchies concentrate power at the top of the pyramid. That power is a magnet for everyone who seeks to wield power and enrich themselves in the process.

In the financial system, this concentration of power is visible in the chart below: the super-rich have become immensely richer in the past few decades of central banks' vast expansion of credit and financialization.

As systems become more complex, the need for a professional class to manage the overwhelming complexity grows. This class excels at appearing to manage complexity while ignoring the larger dynamics driving the system over the cliff.

And so we have endless meetings of highly paid people over trivial issues while the entire system careens toward meltdown. "Stakeholders" multiply in endless profusion, dooming every project to a glacial process that increases the sums paid to manage the glacial process and pushes the final cost to the moon.

The self-serving managerial elite always has one answer for every problem: give us more money. If the budget expands by 10% and nothing actually changes for the better, then the "solution" is a 25% increase in funding.

Budgets expand by leaps and bounds, but none of the systemic problems are ever resolved.

It's not hard to figure out why: look at the system's incentives. If systems were radically simplified and made more efficient, the need for an ever-expanding class of permanent managers would diminish. And so the solution is always more fodder for the managerial elite: more complexity, more meetings, more accumulation of power, more managers and always, more money.

Thus it is no surprise that the calls for "free" college and "Medicare for All" are rising: the managerial elite that has bankrupted higher education and healthcare while enriching themselves desperately needs to be bailed out, lest the systems they've steered toward the fiscal cliff deservedly go broke.

In a similar set of incentives, few weapons systems ever come in under budget when the Pentagon can always come up with another $10 or $20 billion for cost over-runs.

The system is broken, and the managerial elite will keep it broken because it serves their interests to keep it broken. Unfortunately we'll all suffer when the managerial elite is no longer able to stave off the dire fiscal consequences of their self-serving leadership.

[May 28, 2019] Iran Won't Reward Trump's Aggression by DANIEL LARISON

Trump is sign of degeneration of the US political elite. Much like Pompeo and Bolton.
But his hostility to Iran is just desire to please people who control him and finance his re-election bid .
Notable quotes:
"... ran sees no prospect of negotiations with the United States, a foreign ministry spokesman said on Tuesday ..."
"... Iranian officials have repeatedly stated that there won't be any talks with the U.S. until our government rejoins the JCPOA. ..."
"... I don't see how Iranians could view Trump as anything other than a menace when one of his first acts as president was to declare all of them to be potential security threats with the unnecessary and cruel travel ban. His hostility to and contempt for Iran and its people have been intense and consistent for more than two years. ..."
"... When the president veers between "genocidal tweets" and disingenuous offers to talk, this doesn't come across as the work of a master negotiator but rather the impulsive babbling of a leader who can be easily enraged by the smallest and most inconsequential things that he happens to see on television ..."
"... Trump is not talking to Iran but his lackies in the U.S. MSM. They are seeing Iran as being fanatic and unreasonable in refusing to talk. This will be one of the justifications for war and permanent hostilities. ..."
"... I think you're wrong here. Trump doesn't hate or have contempt for Iranians. He's supremely indifferent to them. The hostility and contempt he has shown Iran and Iranians is meant to keep his major Israel and Saudi Arabia donors happy. That's been true from the beginning. Scores of millions in campaign contributions are riding on it. ..."
"... Increasingly, Donaldius Iohannes Trumpius reminds me of some latter day Roman emperor like Caligula or Nero. Absolute power, depravity, insatiable appetites for everything from power to money and women, a pathological lack of empathy, fawning courtiers – it's all there. ..."
May 28, 2019 | www.theamericanconservative.com

In case there was any doubt, the Iranian government made clear that they were not interested in talking to Trump:

I ran sees no prospect of negotiations with the United States, a foreign ministry spokesman said on Tuesday , a day after U.S. President Donald Trump said a deal with Tehran on its nuclear program was possible.

Iranian officials have repeatedly stated that there won't be any talks with the U.S. until our government rejoins the JCPOA. That definitely won't happen under the current administration, so there has never been a realistic chance of starting up U.S.-Iranian negotiations in the near term. Everyone understands that, and that makes the president's random "offers" to talk all the more ridiculous. Iran has already been burned by Trump's decision to renege on the nuclear deal and wage economic war on the entire country, so there would have to be a major effort on the U.S. side to regain Iranian trust. The Trump administration would have to reverse course and undo every anti-Iranian thing that it has done over the last two years, and even then that would barely get the U.S. and Iran back to where they had been in 2017. Trump wouldn't ever do that because it would require him to admit being completely wrong.

Najmeh Bozorgmehr reports on how Iranians are adapting to life under U.S. economic warfare against them:

Iranian analysts tell me the US made one big mistake this time. It used almost all its non-military leverage against Iran over the wrong issue, because the country was not violating the 2015 nuclear accord. Iranians may despise their rulers but they are aware that the US is not righteous, either. How can they see Mr Trump as a saviour when he calls Iran "a nation of terror" and promises "the official end of Iran"?

I don't see how Iranians could view Trump as anything other than a menace when one of his first acts as president was to declare all of them to be potential security threats with the unnecessary and cruel travel ban. His hostility to and contempt for Iran and its people have been intense and consistent for more than two years. The complete lack of respect that Trump has shown to Iranian leaders and the Iranian people alike stands in sharp contrast to his fawning praise for the North Korean leader, and they cannot help but take that as an insult. It also isn't lost on the people being strangled by Trump's sanctions that they are being punished for abiding by an international agreement backed by the world's major powers while North Korea is celebrated after successfully defying the rest of the world by building up their nuclear arsenal and long-range missiles. Iran is being penalized because they trusted the U.S., and Trump has proven to them that this was a foolish thing for them to do. Why would they reward Trump's aggression and make the same mistake twice?

When the president veers between "genocidal tweets" and disingenuous offers to talk, this doesn't come across as the work of a master negotiator but rather the impulsive babbling of a leader who can be easily enraged by the smallest and most inconsequential things that he happens to see on television . As the North Koreans have also learned, no one can successfully negotiate with a person as unreliable and moody as Trump. No one in Iran's government is going to go out on a limb and take the political risk of engaging with the U.S. again after the last effort blew up in their faces, and Trump's mercurial instability guarantees that it would be a waste of everyone's time.


Sid Finster, says: May 28, 2019 at 12:00 pm

Why should Iran, when the United States will not abide by its agreements?

Christian J Chuba , says: May 28, 2019 at 1:20 pm

Trump is not talking to Iran but his lackies in the U.S. MSM. They are seeing Iran as being fanatic and unreasonable in refusing to talk. This will be one of the justifications for war and permanent hostilities.

Our own acts of aggression are completely ignored.

Horn City , says: May 28, 2019 at 1:57 pm

"His hostility to and contempt for Iran and its people have been intense and consistent for more than two years. "

I think you're wrong here. Trump doesn't hate or have contempt for Iranians. He's supremely indifferent to them. The hostility and contempt he has shown Iran and Iranians is meant to keep his major Israel and Saudi Arabia donors happy. That's been true from the beginning. Scores of millions in campaign contributions are riding on it.

Janwaar Bibi , says: May 28, 2019 at 2:18 pm

Increasingly, Donaldius Iohannes Trumpius reminds me of some latter day Roman emperor like Caligula or Nero. Absolute power, depravity, insatiable appetites for everything from power to money and women, a pathological lack of empathy, fawning courtiers – it's all there.

[May 16, 2019] I have never seen such transparently obvious bullshit from UK elite befores"

May 16, 2019 | www.unz.com

Tsigantes , says: May 9, 2019 at 5:14 pm GMT

@MarkU Bravo!

As to their "cleverness", there was a time when UK politicians were known for their slippery qualities and subtlety, but those days are long gone. What we have now is barefaced lies, relying purely on repetition and monolithic corporate media ownership. They are not winning arguments because they are clever, I have never seen such transparently obvious bullshit before.

'Clever is as clever does' – once said with a snort – is a compliment too far for the deeply corrupted, vulgar, mediocre nobodies who comprise the self-styled 'elites'. In this group 'cleverness' simply means the lies they are paid to say repeated loudly and often. And because they have the reins on power, the non-compliant are punished by thugs.

[Apr 28, 2019] The US Deep State truly exists on another plane of unreality

That's a clear sign of degradation of the US political elite.
Apr 28, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org
Hoarsewhisperer , Apr 28, 2019 11:56:12 AM | link

That such pieces as Bugajski's article and the RAND Corporation report have appeared about the same time is in itself a suggestion that the US Deep State truly exists on another plane of unreality. I wouldn't be surprised if a third hit-piece advocating regime change in Russia were to come out soon, either in the US or in the UK, but if that happens then we'll know we're really on a path to self-destruction.
Posted by: Jen | Apr 27, 2019 5:38:18 PM | 19

It's easy to be mesmerised into focusing on Fink Tank drivel instead of the stuff happening outside the stale atmosphere of their unventilated tanks. The French peasants seem to have woken up to the fact that the Macron NeoLib govt has betrayed them and is only pretending to listen. It's only a matter of time until the Gillet Jaunes remember the words of jocular Neoliberal poster-boy Grover Norquist about "government small enough to drown in the bathtub."

Of course, when funny-man Grover said that he meant govt too small to responsibly oversee and administer all of its obligations to The People, thereby necessitating the 'outsourcing' of the juiciest govt obligations to Private Profiteers. Unfortunately, when a govt becomes too small and pompous to listen and respond to the legitimate concerns of The People, it runs the risk of having its size compared with the size of the Disenchanted demographic and, eventually, drowned. Hopefully metaphorically, although History says that when the French neglect reform for too long, metaphorical solutions tend to be neglected too.
And France is just the tip of the iceberg. Again.

[Apr 25, 2019] A Sign Of The Times Court Documents Indicate 7,819 Boy Scout Troop Leaders Abused 12,254 Victims

Fish rots from the head. Neoliberal society is amoral society.
Apr 24, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com
Authored by Michael Snyder via The End of The American Dream blog,

This is a very difficult article for me to write. As a young child I was a member of the Cub Scouts, and I still have very fond memories from those days. Throughout my life I always had a tremendous amount of respect for the Boy Scouts, and so it greatly saddened me to learn about the abuse that has been running rampant in that organization. Of course this is just a very small part of a much larger trend that is plaguing our society , but if this kind of abuse is pervasive even among the Boy Scouts, what organization is truly safe for America's kids? Have we gotten to the point as a society where our children are literally not safe anywhere? According to ABC News , court documents that were just released indicate that 12,254 victims were abused by 7,819 Boy Scout troop leaders over the years

An expert who has been working with the Boy Scouts revealed that there may have been as many as 7,819 allegedly sexually abusive troop leaders and volunteers in the storied organization, according to newly released court documents.

More than 7,800 individuals allegedly abused 12,254 victims, according to the court testimony.

This is what can happen when a society has absolutely no moral foundation whatsoever. These days, many Americans seem to believe that our country will be turned in the right direction if we can just get the correct political leaders into place, but that is not true at all.

No political solution is going to fix this kind of evil. Our core problems are moral and spiritual in nature, and most people don't seem to understand that.

A lawyer named Jeff Anderson is searching for even more Boy Scout victims, and he says that his firm has already identified 130 perpetrators in New York and 50 in New Jersey According to ABC News , court documents that were just released indicate that 12,254 victims were abused by 7,819 Boy Scout troop leaders over the years

An expert who has been working with the Boy Scouts revealed that there may have been as many as 7,819 allegedly sexually abusive troop leaders and volunteers in the storied organization, according to newly released court documents.

More than 7,800 individuals allegedly abused 12,254 victims, according to the court testimony.

This is what can happen when a society has absolutely no moral foundation whatsoever. These days, many Americans seem to believe that our country will be turned in the right direction if we can just get the correct political leaders into place, but that is not true at all.

No political solution is going to fix this kind of evil. Our core problems are moral and spiritual in nature, and most people don't seem to understand that.

A lawyer named Jeff Anderson is searching for even more Boy Scout victims, and he says that his firm has already identified 130 perpetrators in New York and 50 in New Jersey


Dan'l , 1 hour ago link

"Nothing is more important than the safety and protection of children in Scouting." The courts had to let the fags in as Scout Masters, so who is surprised?

All of Jewllywood is overrun with pedos

Cloud9.5 , 55 minutes ago link

Our handlers have romanticized deviancy to the point that these people cannot be called out. We have been weighed in the balance and found lacking. The good, the bad and the ugly will be swept away with what is coming.

GeoffreyT , 7 minutes ago link

Are you really stupid enough to think that homosexual paedophiles never got into positions of authority in the scouts until the scouts permitted openly gay scout leaders?

You should be thankful that you were an ugly kid - that's the only way you would have escaped their clutches, if you're this naïve as an adult.

Paedophiles have always been attracted to any job that involves close unsupervised contact with children .

Anyone in that sort of job should always be immediately suspect: paedophiles are very rare in the broad population, but they're not rare in professions that involve close, unsupervised contact with kids.

HideTheWeenie , 1 hour ago link

52 years ago I went to Boy Scout Camp outside of Rhinelander, WI.

On the third night a scoutmaster, who I didn't know, woke me up around 11:30 pm to go to the Deer Field to look at stars. Being a smart ***, I said, "Oh, I went with the other group and we just got back." The next day I was on the next bus outta there. Told 'em my brother was coming back from Viet Nam ( which was almost true).

So basically, no surprise. I would've been safer and had more fun with better stories to tell spending the night with Harvey Weinstein.

gigi fenomen , 1 hour ago link

Just like a spider builds his web around the light, the homosexual infiltrates places where he can have private access to boys – including the priesthood and the boy scouts.

This is similar to the way the heterosexual gets a job as like, a lifeguard at a beach in Miami, or joins a rock band.

I have no idea why people wouldn't simply assume that huge numbers of homosexuals would be signing up for to be Boy Scout Scout Masters, and why they didn't control for that – for instance, not allowing them to join unless they were married with kids, or had otherwise proved they were not faggots.

But then the decision to just allow open faggots – that is just it is just unfathomable.

How did we create a society that puts political correctness and the alleged emotions of pederasts above the safety of our children?

Who is responsible for this?

MOST IMPORTANTLY

These faggots ARE NOT ******* PEDOPHILES!

THEY ARE HOMOSEXUALS!

"Pedophile" is a specific term that means sexual attraction to prepubescent children. Boy Scouts are pubescent boys in their early teens.

THIS IS NORMAL HOMOSEXUAL BEHAVIOR.

During the Catholic Church pederasty scandal, they started talking about "pedophiles" instead of homosexuals, as an attempt to distinguish between "good homos" and "bad homos."

BUT ALL HOMOSEXUAL HAVE A PREFERENCE FOR YOUNG TEENAGE BOYS!

THAT IS WHAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS!

THERE IS ONLY ONE KIND OF "GOOD HOMO" AND THAT IS THE KIND THAT IS FLYING THROUGH THE AIR AFTER HAVING BEEN THROWN OFF A ROOF!

[Apr 14, 2019] It has since been revealed that Epstein had 21 different phone numbers for contacting his friend Bill Clinton, who, court records allege, "frequently flew" on Epstein's private jet between 2002 and 2005.

Apr 14, 2019 | www.unz.com

Si1ver1ock says: April 13, 2019 at 12:01 pm GMT

It's interesting the Media has brought back the Sweden rape charge, but they are avoiding this rape story like the pest.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/1jDPzW9COsU?feature=oembed

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annamaria , says: April 13, 2019 at 12:19 pm GMT

"Assange was reduced from one of the few towering figures of our time – a man who will have a central place in history books, if we as a species live long enough to write those books "

-- The presstituting crowd of stenographers (MSM) and the zionized X-tian war profiteers have made everything in their power (inadvertently) to ensure that Assange is and will be a towering figure of our time.

Even in distress, Assange has been fighting for truth and dignity; the ongoing show of lawlessness exposes the rot. The moral and creative midgets constituting the core of MSM and the satanic deciders are upset. Good!

The idiotic Senior District "Judge" Emma Arbuthnot (a wife and beneficiary of a mega-war profiteer Lord Arbuthnot -- Arbuthnot served as Chairman of the Defence Select Committee from 2005 to 2014) and the no less idiotic District "Judge" Michael Snow have entered the history books as well. As scoundrels: http://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/msg/1555064882.html

Snow does his best to bring the Judiciary into disrepute by playing to the gallery. He comments on the extradition in the same vein in a totally unprofessional manner. He is of course in a long line of disreputable members of the judiciary Snow's place in history is now secured – he chose to abuse the defendant rather than perform his role which was really quite straightforward. He is the narcissist and guilty of self interest not Julian Assange.

annamaria , says: April 13, 2019 at 12:33 pm GMT
@Si1ver1ock For every pronouncement against Assange by the US/UK government and judiciary, there should be an immediate question about the leniency shown towards the pedophiles and rapists in the UK (see Savile and the sudden "disappearance" of files re the high-placed pedophiles) and the story of Lolita Island and Lolita Express in the US.

Theresa May as the protector of pedophiles and rapists in the UK: https://www.corbettreport.com/pedophiles-in-politics-an-open-source-investigation/

One of the hurdles in investigating the claims is the Official Secrets Act, which prevents the disclosure of state secrets and "sensitive" information. "It is clear there are a lot of people who could provide a lot of information to support ongoing criminal investigations But they are not doing so because of the Official Secrets Act. They are fearful of not only breaking the law but the potential effect on their pension. This is absolutely crucial if we are to get some of these ex-officers coming forward and to get prosecutions of some of the former MPs." He has asked Home Secretary Theresa May to lift the restrictions, allowing former officials to speak up about what they know about the case, but so far there is no indication that this has been done.

The protection of the high-placed pedophiles and rapists in the US:

In the Epstein case, as well, there are numerous questions surrounding the possibility of high-level cover up. In recent weeks it has emerged that Epstein struck a remarkable secret deal with the US Attorney's Office that barred more than 500 pages of documents detailing negotiations of the deal and a staggering 13,000 documents from the investigation into Epstein's activities that were shelved as a result of the bargain.

Let the scoundrels talk about Assange to see how the concocted fraud is backfired.

Mrs. Clinton in particular should have been more circumspect:

It has since been revealed that Epstein had 21 different phone numbers for contacting his friend Bill Clinton, who, court records allege, "frequently flew" on Epstein's private jet between 2002 and 2005.

annamaria , says: April 13, 2019 at 1:28 pm GMT
@Ronald Thomas West And why are you spreading the MSM disinformation on the Unz forum? -- Just to satisfy your desire to litter the forum?

Read and learn: https://www.corbettreport.com/pedophiles-in-politics-an-open-source-investigation/

Also, perhaps you need to ponder why you are not treated the same way as the courageous, talented, principled, and dignified Assange is treated. Perhaps, something is missing in your character.

annamaria , says: April 13, 2019 at 1:44 pm GMT
@Art Theresa May has been the main protector of the high-placed British pedophiles

"Theresa May and the 'missing' child sex abuse files" https://www.reknr.com/uk/theresa-may-and-the-missing-child-sex-abuse-files/

"British PM Blocks Elite Pedophile Enquiry On Grounds Of 'National Security'" https://newspunch.com/british-pm-blocks-pedophile-enquiry/

The documents are thought to shed light on the years of ongoing pedophilia and child abuse within Westminster and contained names of "several" high-level politicians in the UK and US who are connected to an elite pedophile ring.

The followup: "Theresa May accused of cover-up over child abuse inquiry concerns," https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-child-abuse-inquiry-cover-up-concerns-dame-lowell-goddard-stories-a7369976.html

"England: Land of Royals, Tea and Horrific Pedophilia Coverups" http://time.com/2974381/england-land-of-royals-tea-and-horrific-pedophilia-coverups/

In the case of the Westminster "pedophile ring," the mounting sentiment that Britain's establishment serves its own interests and conceals its wrongdoing may be well founded. Until recently only seven police officers were working on Operation Fernbridge; Scotland Yard announced today the figure is now 22.

By fraudulently accusing Assange, Theresa May reminds the world about her role in the protection of the wealthy and influential Westminster pedophiles (the real rapists).

[Apr 14, 2019] Convicted Felon Charles Kushner Is Back in Business

Notable quotes:
"... Jared Kushner is 36 and he had already stepped up to a senior position in his family's real estate business Kushner Companies. This was in part because daddy Charles Kushner was in jail. But now that he has taken on a job as White House advisor to President Trump, Jared Kushner has been forced to step aside from Kushner Companies and his father Charles Kushner is stepping back in. ..."
"... So Charles Kushner, father of current Presidential advisor Jared Kushner and son in law to the President has been convicted on federal election fraud charges and witness tampering. ..."
"... Well Larry Noble, general counsel for the Campaign Legal Center, a nonpartisan organization focused on election laws, put it best when he told Bloomberg , "It can't hurt to be doing business with Jared Kushner's family. It's a road to the administration. At the very least they're going to have an inside track." ..."
Mar 25, 2019 | jewishbusinessnews.com

Jared Kushner's father , Charles Kushner, who also just so happens to be a convicted felon, has gotten back to work. He has also hired some of the people who he did time with.

In 2004 , after already paying a $508,900 fine to the Federal Election Commission for improperly contributing money to political candidates, Charles Kushner was forced to agree to a plea bargain with Federal prosecutors and was sentenced to 14 months in a federal prison in Montgomery, Alabama. The charges against Kushner revolved around illegal campaign contributions and witness tampering. Charles Kushner had arranged for a prostitute to sleep with his brother in law William Schulder, who had agreed to testify against him. The encounter was filmed and Kushner used it to try and blackmail Schulder. Gross!

The federal prosecutor who handled the case was none other than future New Jersey Governor Chris Christie. Christie later worked side by side on Donald Trump's presidential campaign with Jared Kushner, the son in law of the President Trump who just so happens to also be the son of Charles Kushner.

Jared Kushner is 36 and he had already stepped up to a senior position in his family's real estate business Kushner Companies. This was in part because daddy Charles Kushner was in jail. But now that he has taken on a job as White House advisor to President Trump, Jared Kushner has been forced to step aside from Kushner Companies and his father Charles Kushner is stepping back in.

Did you follow all of that?

At the time Chris Christie stated about the charges, "There is nothing, nothing more sacrosanct than the integrity of the grand jury system."

Apparently prison is a good place to make business connections. Avram Lebor and Richard Goettlich are two former convicts who served prison time with Charles Kushner who are now working for Kushner Companies. Bloomberg reports that the two men were convicted in separate fraud schemes. Lebor, 68, served seven years in prison and is now the firm's director of acquisitions. Goettlich served ten years in jail for his part in a ponzi scheme.

The two men were hired as part of the Kushner Companies' second-chance program. Charles Kushner is board member of Getting Out & Staying Out, which mentors young inmates at Rikers Island.

So Charles Kushner, father of current Presidential advisor Jared Kushner and son in law to the President has been convicted on federal election fraud charges and witness tampering.

The big question now that everyone is still asking about his son Jared is whether or not he will be able to separate his new job working for the people of the United States from his business interests, or if there will be conflicts of interest. And will doing business with Kushner Companies make it easier for you to get access to the White House?

Well Larry Noble, general counsel for the Campaign Legal Center, a nonpartisan organization focused on election laws, put it best when he told Bloomberg , "It can't hurt to be doing business with Jared Kushner's family. It's a road to the administration. At the very least they're going to have an inside track."

So what is Charles Kushner doing these days?

The Real Deal reports that Charles Kushner just spent $12 million on three units in 212 Fifth Avenue in Manhattan. Encompassing an area of 4,614 square feet, the three apartments are each on a different floor, the seventh, eighth and ninth floors.

[Apr 13, 2019] How about a paedophile UK Prime Minister never investigated ?

Apr 13, 2019 | www.unz.com

Iris , says: April 13, 2019 at 8:11 pm GMT

@The Alarmist

Not to mention more than a few paedo-grooming ring members who are still awaiting deportation

How convenient these immigrants are when a good smokescreen is needed.
And how about a paedophile UK Prime Minister never investigated ?

"Sir Edward Heath WAS a paedophile, says police chief: Astonishing claim is made that the former PM is guilty of vile crimes 'covered up by the Establishment'"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4238188/Sir-Edward-Heath-paedophile-says-police-chief.html

[Apr 09, 2019] Part of the problem may be that the American oligarchy is now believing its own bullshit, or put another way, has descended into decadence.

Apr 09, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

c1ue , Apr 9, 2019 2:31:57 PM | link

Part of the problem may be that the American oligarchy is now believing its own bullshit, or put another way, has descended into decadence.
The United States has morphed stories many times - from a land of opportunity via theft from Natives/occupying new land, to jobs and growth opportunities via the Industrial Revolution, to economic prosperity through rebuilding other nations torn apart by war.
Under these lenses - particularly the last one - the Ukraine, Libya, Syria and other "freedom and nation building" exercises make sense.
The problem is that it is still unclear that the other major nations are willing to get themselves into another major war with each other - from which the US can sell into, both during and after.
Another way to look at it is the Dr. Michael Hudson model: that any economy which permits interest bearing debt to, by natural law, greatly exceed organic economic capability to repay and is thus doomed to cataclysm - the increase of the FIRE sector (Finance, Insurance and Real Estate) from 12% in the 80s to well over 40%, maybe 50% or 60% today, would be a good indicator.
Under the Dr. Michael Hudson model - the "western" tradition is the abolishing of the debt jubilee, replaced by the Roman looting of foreign lands model.
Note that the debt jubilee model can still work: a 100% or 150% inflation over a 1-3 year period would do it, accompanied and followed by policies which restrain FIRE going forward. However, the unwillingness of the oligarchy to accept/understand/implement is very clear.
Interesting times.

[Mar 31, 2019] All I can see in Russigate is that two faction of the US elite seem to be fighting amongst themselves. With Russigate (IMO) providing cover for this power struggle

Notable quotes:
"... Russiagate became a convenient replacement explanation absolving an incompetent political establishment for its complicity in what happened in 2016, and not just the failure to see it coming. ..."
"... Because of the immediate arrival of the collusion theory, neither Wolf Blitzer nor any politician ever had to look into the camera and say, "I guess people hated us so much they were even willing to vote for Donald Trump ..."
Mar 31, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

psychohistorian , Mar 30, 2019 7:51:28 PM | link

Here is an insightful read on Trump's (s)election and Russiagate that I think is not OT

Taibbi: On Russiagate and Our Refusal to Face Why Trump Won

The take away quote

" Russiagate became a convenient replacement explanation absolving an incompetent political establishment for its complicity in what happened in 2016, and not just the failure to see it coming.

Because of the immediate arrival of the collusion theory, neither Wolf Blitzer nor any politician ever had to look into the camera and say, "I guess people hated us so much they were even willing to vote for Donald Trump ."

As a peedupon all I can see is that the elite seem to be fighting amongst themselves or (IMO) providing cover for ongoing elite power/control efforts. It might not be about private/public finance in a bigger picture but I can't see anything else that makes sense

Zachary Smith , Mar 30, 2019 10:07:37 PM | link
@ psychohistorian #43

Thanks for the Taibbi link. I hadn't seen it, and found him to be in good form. I do think he ought to have spoken more about how bad Trump's Primary opponents were.

Most of those reporters were going to slant their stories the way their bosses wanted. Their jobs are just too nice to do otherwise. Getting Trump as Hillary's opponent had to have been a goal for the majority of them. He was the patsy who would become squished roadkill in the treads of The Most Experienced Presidential Candidate In History. More on that for people with strong stomachs:

What Hillary Clinton's Fans Love About Her 11/03/2016

Sample:

Hillary Clinton is a knowledgeable, well-prepared, reasonable, experienced, even-tempered, hardworking candidate, while her opponent is a stubbornly uninformed demagogue who has been proven again and again to be a liar on matters big and small. There is no objective basis on which to equate Hillary Clinton to her opponent.
The author had it half right. Turns out the voters knew quite a bit about Trump, and still preferred him to the Butcher of Libya.

[Mar 20, 2019] The sex slave scandal that exposed pedophile billionaire Jeffrey Epstein by Maureen Callahan

Notable quotes:
"... Another house manager, Alfredo Rodriguez, told Recarey that very young girls were giving Epstein massages at least twice a day, and in one instance, Epstein had Rodriguez deliver one dozen roses to Mary, at her high school. ..."
"... Palm Beach prosecutors said the evidence was weak, and after presenting the case to a grand jury, Epstein was charged with only one count of felony solicitation of prostitution. In 2008, he pleaded guilty and nominally served 13 months of an 18-month sentence in a county jail: Epstein spent one day a week there, the other six out on "work release." ..."
"... Today, Jeffrey Epstein is a free man, albeit one who routinely settles civil lawsuits against him, brought by young women, out of court. As of 2015, Epstein had settled multiple such cases. ..."
Oct 09, 2016 | nypost.com
Judge gives deadline for arguments relating to unsealing Jeffrey Epstein documents Documents related to pedophile Jeffrey Epstein may be unsealed Pedophile Jeffrey Epstein's deal with feds was illegal: judge Northam has only himself to blame

In 2005, the world was introduced to reclusive billionaire Jeffrey Epstein, friend to princes and an American president, a power broker with the darkest of secrets: He was also a pedophile, accused of recruiting dozens of underage girls into a sex-slave network, buying their silence and moving along, although he has been convicted of only one count of soliciting prostitution from a minor. Visitors to his private Caribbean island, known as "Orgy Island," have included Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew and Stephen Hawking.

According to a 2011 court filing by alleged Epstein victim Virginia Roberts Giuffre, she saw Clinton and Prince Andrew on the island but never saw the former president do anything improper. Giuffre has accused Prince Andrew of having sex with her when she was a minor, a charge Buckingham Palace denies.

"Epstein lives less than one mile away from me in Palm Beach," author James Patterson tells The Post. In the 11 years since Epstein was investigated and charged by the Palm Beach police department, ultimately copping a plea and serving 13 months on one charge of soliciting prostitution from a 14-year-old girl, Patterson has remained obsessed with the case.

"He's a fascinating character to read about," Patterson says. "What is he thinking? Who is he?"

Patterson's new book, "Filthy Rich: A Powerful Billionaire, the Sex Scandal That Undid Him, and All the Justice That Money Can Buy," is an attempt to answer such questions. Co-authored with John Connolly and Tim Malloy, the book contains detailed police interviews with girls who alleged sexual abuse by Epstein and others in his circle. Giuffre alleged that Epstein's ex-girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of the late media tycoon Robert Maxwell, abused her. Ghislaine Maxwell has denied allegations of enabling abuse.

Epstein has spent the bulk of his adult life cultivating relationships with the world's most powerful men. Flight logs show that from 2001 to 2003, Bill Clinton flew on Epstein's private plane, dubbed "The Lolita Express" by the press, 26 times. After Epstein's arrest in July 2006, federal tax records show Epstein donated $25,000 to the Clinton Foundation that year.

Bill Clinton in 1994. AP

Epstein was also a regular visitor to Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago, and the two were friends. According to the Daily Mail, Trump was a frequent dinner guest at Epstein's home, which was often full of barely dressed models. In 2003, New York magazine reported that Trump also attended a dinner party at Epstein's honoring Bill Clinton.

Last year, The Guardian reported that Epstein's "little black book" contained contact numbers for A-listers including Tony Blair, Naomi Campbell, Dustin Hoffman, Michael Bloomberg and Richard Branson.

In a 2006 court filing, Palm Beach police noted that a search of Epstein's home uncovered two hidden cameras. The Mirror reported that in 2015, a 6-year-old civil lawsuit filed by "Jane Doe No. 3," believed to be the now-married Giuffre, alleged that Epstein wired his mansion with hidden cameras, secretly recording orgies involving his prominent friends and underage girls. The ultimate purpose: blackmail, according to court papers.

Britain's Prince Andrew in 2012 AP

"Jane Doe No. 3" also alleged that she had been forced to have sex with "numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, a well-known prime minister, and other world leaders."

"We uncovered a lot of details about the police investigation and a lot about the girls, what happened to them, the effect on their lives," Patterson says.

"The reader has to ask: Was justice done here or not?"

Epstein, now 63, has always been something of an international man of mystery. Born in Brooklyn, he had a middle-class upbringing: His father worked for the Parks Department, and his parents stressed hard work and education.

'We uncovered a lot of details about the police investigation and a lot about the girls, what happened to them, the effect on their lives.'

- James Patterson

Epstein was brilliant, skipping two grades and graduating Lafayette High School in 1969. He attended Cooper Union but dropped out in 1971 and by 1973 was teaching calculus and physics at Dalton, where he tutored the son of a Bear Stearns exec. Soon, Epstein applied his facility with numbers on Wall Street but left Bear Stearns under a cloud in 1981. He formed his own business, J. Epstein & Co.

The bar for entry at the new firm was high. According to a 2002 profile in New York magazine, Epstein only took on clients who turned over $1 billion, at minimum, for him to manage. Clients also had to pay a flat fee and sign power of attorney over to Epstein, allowing him to do whatever he saw fit with their money.

Still, no one knew exactly what Epstein did, or how he was able to amass a personal billion-dollar-plus fortune. In addition to a block-long, nine-story mansion on Manhattan's Upper East Side, Epstein owns the $6.8 million mansion in Palm Beach, an $18 million property in New Mexico, the 70-acre private Caribbean island, a helicopter, a Gulfstream IV and a Boeing 727.

"My belief is that Jeff maintains some sort of money-management firm, though you won't get a straight answer from him," one high-level investor told New York magazine. "He once told me he had 300 people working for him, and I've also heard that he manages Rockefeller money. But one never knows. It's like looking at the Wizard of Oz -- there may be less there than meets the eye."

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"He's very enigmatic," Rosa Monckton told Vanity Fair in 2003. Monckton was the former British CEO of Tiffany & Co. and confidante to the late Princess Diana. She was also a close friend of Epstein's since the 1980s. "He never reveals his hand . . . He's a classic iceberg. What you see is not what you get."

Both profiles intimated that Epstein had a predilection for young women but never went further. In the New York magazine piece, Trump said Epstein's self-professed image as a loner, an egghead and a teetotaler was not wholly accurate.

Donald Trump in 1990 AP

"I've known Jeff for 15 years," Trump said. "Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it -- Jeffrey enjoys his social life."

Three years after that profile ran, Palm Beach Police Officer Michele Pagan got a disturbing message. A woman reported that her 14-year-old stepdaughter confided to a friend that she'd had sex with an older man for money. The man's name was Jeff, and he lived in a mansion on a cul-de-sac.

Pagan persuaded the woman to bring her stepdaughter down to be interviewed. In his book, Patterson calls the girl Mary. And Mary, like so many of the other girls who eventually talked, came from the little-known working-class areas surrounding Palm Beach.

A friend of a friend, Mary said, told her she could make hundreds of dollars in one hour, just for massaging some middle-aged guy's feet. Lots of other girls had been doing it, some three times a week.

Mary claimed she had been driven to the mansion on El Brillo Way, where a female staffer escorted her up a pink-carpeted staircase, then into a room with a massage table, an armoire topped with sex toys and a photo of a little girl pulling her underwear off.

Ghislaine Maxwell Getty Images

Epstein entered the room, wearing only a towel, Mary said.

"He took off the towel," Mary told Pagan. "He was a really built guy. But his wee-wee was very tiny."

Mary said Epstein got on the table and barked orders at her. She told police she was alone in the room with him, terrified.

Pagan wrote the following in her incident report:

"She removed her pants, leaving her thong panties on. She straddled his back, whereby her exposed buttocks were touching Epstein's exposed buttocks. Epstein then turned to his side and started to rub his penis in an up-and-down motion. Epstein pulled out a purple vibrator and began to massage Mary's vaginal area."

Palm Beach assigned six more detectives to the investigation. They conducted a "trash pull" of Epstein's garbage, sifting through paper with phone numbers, used condoms, toothbrushes, worn underwear. In one pull, police found a piece of paper with Mary's phone number on it, along with the number of the person who recruited her.

On Sept. 11, 2005, detectives got another break. Alison, as she's called in the book, told Detective Joe Recarey that she had been going to Epstein's house since she was 16. Alison had been working at the Wellington Green Mall, saving up for a trip to Maine, when a friend told her, "You can get a plane ticket in two hours . . . We can go give this guy a massage and he'll pay $200," according to her statement to the police.

Alison told Recarey that she visited Epstein hundreds of times. She said he had bought her a new 2005 Dodge Neon, plane tickets, and gave her spending money. Alison said he even asked her to emancipate from her parents so she could live with him full-time as his "sex slave."

She said Epstein slowly escalated his sexual requests, and despite Alison's insistence that they never have intercourse, alleged, "This one time . . . he bent me over the table and put himself in me. Without my permission."

Alison then asked if what Epstein had done to her was rape and spoke of her abject fear of him.

An abridged version of her witness statement, as recounted in the book:

Alison : Before I say anything else . . . um, is there a possibility that I'm gonna have to go to court or anything?
Recarey : I mean, what he did to you is a crime. I'm not gonna lie to you.
Alison : Would you consider it rape, what he did?
Recarey : If he put himself inside you without permission . . . That, that is a crime. That is a crime.
Alison : I don't want my family to find out about this . . . 'Cause Jeffrey's gonna get me. You guys realize that, right? . . . I'm not safe now. I'm not safe.
Recarey : Why do you say you're not safe? Has he said he's hurt people before?
Alison : Well, I've heard him make threats to people on the telephone, yeah. Of course.
Recarey : You're gonna die? You're gonna break your legs? Or  --
Alison : All of the above!

Alison also told Recarey that Epstein got so violent with her that he ripped out her hair and threw her around. "I mean," she said, "there's been nights that I walked out of there barely able to walk, um, from him being so rough."

Two months later, Recarey interviewed Epstein's former house manager of 11 years, documented in his probable-cause affidavit as Mr. Alessi. "Alessi stated Epstein receives three massages a day . . . towards the end of his employment, the masseuses . . . appeared to be 16 or 17 years of age at the most . . . [Alessi] would have to wash off a massager/vibrator and a long rubber penis, which were in the sink after the massage."

Another house manager, Alfredo Rodriguez, told Recarey that very young girls were giving Epstein massages at least twice a day, and in one instance, Epstein had Rodriguez deliver one dozen roses to Mary, at her high school.

In May 2006, the Palm Beach Police Department filed a probable-cause affidavit, asking prosecutors to charge Epstein with four counts of unlawful sexual activity with a minor -- a second-degree felony -- and one count of lewd and lascivious molestation of a 14-year-old minor, also a second-degree felony.

Today, Jeffrey Epstein is a free man, albeit one who routinely settles civil lawsuits against him, brought by young women, out of court.

Palm Beach prosecutors said the evidence was weak, and after presenting the case to a grand jury, Epstein was charged with only one count of felony solicitation of prostitution. In 2008, he pleaded guilty and nominally served 13 months of an 18-month sentence in a county jail: Epstein spent one day a week there, the other six out on "work release."

Today, Jeffrey Epstein is a free man, albeit one who routinely settles civil lawsuits against him, brought by young women, out of court. As of 2015, Epstein had settled multiple such cases.

Giuffre has sued Ghislaine Maxwell in Manhattan federal court, charging defamation -- saying Maxwell stated Giuffre lied about Maxwell's recruitment of her and other underage girls. Epstein has been called upon to testify in court this month, on Oct. 20.

The true number of Epstein's victims may never be known.

He will be a registered sex offender for the rest of his life, not that it fazes him. "I'm not a sexual predator, I'm an 'offender,' " Epstein told The Post in 2011. "It's the difference between a murderer and a person who steals a bagel."

[Mar 11, 2019] Major Cracks in the Pedophile Ring

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Former Pope Benedict's sudden resignation is speculated by many to have stemmed from rampant child abuse. These accusations are supported by a number of witnesses and a shocking story that got no air time in the mainstream media -- that the former Pope Benedict's brother abused at least 231 children at a catholic boys choir .

In another major outing of the pedophile culture, Scotland Yard obtained video evidence of a UK Politician "Murdering a Child in a bizarre ritual." A Scotland Yard official said " these accusations are true" - and another 261 prominent people including politicians and TV stars are suspected of partaking in the horrific evil of child abuse/murder. Some have speculated the criminal ritual is used as a form of blackmail to compromise individuals - and that high level people are preventing prosecutions.

The U.K. probe known as Operation Midlands was shut down in March for "insignificant evidence" despite a quote from MP John Mann saying "that the victim total could be in the many tens of thousands." The probe had video evidence, and several victim's testimonies, including Alex Wheatle , Steven George , George Smith , Darren , Thomas , Nick , and several additional witnesses. The claims are backed up by retired Scotland yard detectives . Yet the probe was shut down, and at least 114 documents just vanished.

One document that turned up after 30 years showed that the Thatcher government knew and was told about the Westminster officials' odd sexual behaviors. The CIA and KGB even knew about what was going on and hoped to blackmail the VIP pedophile ring in exchange for information.

Sixteen MP's were named in a 1984 dossier of VIP pedophile abusers documenting the influence that the the Pedophile Information Exchange lobby had on Westminster. A whistle-blower goes further to state that 20 powerful elitists abused children for decades , including a female MP . The ultimate goal of the pedophile lobby was to lower the age of consent and push the pedophilia agenda, which several people tried to do.

Even the High Court judge to the Queen, Lord Justice Fulford, tried to lower the age of consent to four. Absolutely sick and twisted -- four years old.

Another official, Patricia Hewitt, former Labour cabinet minister, was caught trying to push the pedophile's agenda to make incest legal and lower the age of consent to the age of 10 .

The Pedophile inquiries which include investigations into Kincora house , Elm Guest House , Dolphin Square , St. Helena and the Lambeth Town Hall basement were covered up and ignored to protect the establishment from embarrassment, just like other investigations. Investigators were told to back off investigating because a royal was suspected to be involved and several others even warned police, including MP John Mann . Buckingham Palace and Balmoral Castle have even come up in the current investigation as a witness has claimed he was sexually assaulted there at the age of 16.

Put simply this is utterly disgusting.. Children are being put below politics, because psychopaths are in control and believe that they are entitled to abuse people . It's even alleged that they used children's foster homes as a supply to fulfill their sick urge.

Actor and comedian Russell Brand did a very good expose on the UK Pedophilia scandal. So did Australia's 60 minutes and another Australian comedy show called "The Last Leg". Using comedy to shed light on a dark subject is an old practice made well known by comedian's like George Carlin .

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There was a documentary set to be aired called the "Conspiracy of Silence" on the Discovery Channel, but that documentary was canceled at the last minute and all copies bought up until a copy leaked online years later...showing the influence these pedophiles have on the media. Not only that but several people were threatened, murdered or imprisoned to keep this sick secret hushed up.

Conspiracy of Silence BANNED TV Documentary :

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The State Department

DYNCORP was found to have trafficked children, and continued to receive government contracts. Congresswoman Cynthia Mckinney asked then Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld why this corporation continues to receive funding. His answer admitted abuse happened.

Further information on DYNCORP's trafficking of children can be found from a whistle-blower, Kathryn Bolkovac - a human rights investigator who saw UN officials, military and state department officials involved in human trafficking in Bosnia. Her story was then turned into a Hollywood movie called "The Whistleblower."

5,200 Pentagon Employees Bought Child Pornography, Investigation halted after 8 Months :

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Comment: These are only some of the major stories that show just how psychopathic many among the elites are. See also: Psychopaths in power: Woman accuses 3 former Australian PMs of participating in 'VIP Pedophile Ring' North Wales pedophile network: Government officials and high level public figures involved Ex-Army Intelligence officer: MI5 covered up child sex abuse in Belfast, Ireland care home Global Pedophile Network Broken Up By Italian Police The real EU : Powerhouse and protection mechanism for pedophile elite Monsters among us: Ritual child abuse in France Portuguese Pedophile Network: Popular TV host and UN Ambassador among those sentenced for raping children Pedophile prostitution trial implicates Netherlands elite, royalty Italian pedophile scandal goes all the way to the top Pedophile Case Judge Breaks Down in Belgian Court

[Mar 11, 2019] Is There Any Real Evidence of Elite Pedophile Sex Rings Involving Government Pop Culture – Collective Evolution

Mar 11, 2019 | www.collective-evolution.com

Pedophilia has come up in the mainstream a lot lately, as PizzaGate came to light fairly recently and more and more pedophile rings are being exposed, some of which have involved government officials.

If you're unfamiliar with PizzaGate, it refers to a wide range of email correspondence leaked from the DNC that allegedly unearthed a high-level elitist global pedophile ring in which the U.S. government was involved.

It emerged when Wikileaks released tens of thousands of emails from the former White House Chief of Staff under Bill Clinton, John Podesta, who also served as Hillary Clinton's campaign manager. It's because of these emails that many claimed John Podesta was a part of these child trafficking rings as well.

Since then, conspiracy theorists and world renowned journalists alike have been looking into the topic and speculating how big this problem could be and who could be involved within these underground rings.

For example, award winning American journalist Ben Swann explained the Pizzagate controversy in detail on mainstream news:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/-GZFHLAcG8A?start=0&modestbranding=1&showinfo=0&theme=light

Not long after, Swann's entire online personal brand and accounts had all but vanished from the internet. Why?

More recently, there's been some speculation that these pedophile rings could stretch into pop culture, potentially involving more pedophilia scandals and symbolism within the media. The question here is: Is there any tangible evidence of all of this, or is it mere speculation?

Pedophilia Symbolism

I'd like to begin by identifying the symbols that are used by pedophiles to identify themselves and make their requests within underground networks. Here is a link to a declassified FBI document illustrating the symbols and images used by pedophiles to "identify their sexual preferences."

So, how do these images relate to pizza? First of all, before PizzaGate was even suggested, "cheese pizza" was used as a code word to discuss "child porn" (hint: it's the same initials, CP). A quick Google search will reveal that the market for underage sex workers is fairly substantial, and you can even see a 2015 post on Urban Dictionary that explains how "cheese pizza" is used as code for child porn.

As per PizzaGate and the symbolism, it all started when multiple emails involving John Podesta, his brother, and Hillary Clinton simply didn't add up. Strange wording discussing pizza and cheese left readers confused, and because the emails made so little sense, it led many to suspect that they were code for something else.

For example, this email addressed to John Podesta reads: "The realtor found a handkerchief (I think it has a map that seems pizza-related)," and this email sent from John Podesta asks: "Do you think I'll do better playing dominos on cheese than on pasta?" There are many more examples, and I encourage you to go through the Wikileaks vault to explore.

On top of that, the DNC was associated with two pizza places, Comet Ping Pong and Besta Pizza, which use very clear symbols of pedophilia in their advertising and have strange images of children and other ritualistic type images and suspicious videos on their social media accounts – which has since been made private given the controversy over the images and their link to the DNC, but again, a quick Google search will show you what those images looked like. You can read the email correspondence between John Podesta and Comet Ping Pong's owner, James Alefantis, here .

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[Mar 06, 2019] The faces of US elite: The marasmic McCain, marasmic Pelosi, and hysterical Max Boot, the openly lying Clapper and the hate-filled profiteer Brennan

Notable quotes:
"... The next two weeks will show whether Trump is the real deal, or just another schlub. ..."
Jul 27, 2017 | www.unz.com

annamaria > , July 27, 2017 at 8:06 pm GMT

@Seamus Padraig

His greatest accomplishment may well be that he has caused Washington's Swamp Dwellers to rise from the ooze and expose themselves for all the world to see. That's weakened them immeasurably, perhaps fatally. To be sure, that's no small thing, and the next Trump to come along is now on full alert as to who & what to bring with him.
You nailed it. Even if they do eventually succeed in foiling Trump, things will never be the same again. The whole world is watching the circus in Washington, and so Washington's brand ('democracy') is now shot. 2016 was indeed an annus mirabilis! " things will never be the same again. The whole world is watching the circus in Washington.."

It looks and sounds like dementia – as if a sick person behaving inappropriately, showing unprovoked aggression (like some Alzheimer patients), using silly or senseless phrasing, and having the unreasonable demands and uncontrolled fits of rage like a spoiled child. The marasmic McCain, marasmic Pelosi, and hysterical Max Boot, the openly lying Clapper and the hate-filled profiteer Brennan.

What a panopticon.

Here is an outline of the current state of "western values" by Patrick Armstrong: http://turcopolier.typepad.com

Jeff Davis > , July 27, 2017 at 8:54 pm GMT

As I have written here and elsewhere, President Swamp Drainer needs to get control of the DoJ. He got rid of Comey, which was good, but got Rosenstein and Mueller in response. Meanwhile Jeff Sessions is twiddling his thumbs re the Russia witch hunt. Perhaps his recusal was appropriate, but he's not doing anything whatsoever regarding Swamp Draining. So it feels like he's a disingenuous old guard GOPer, who wants to obstruct any real progress, while dragging his feet with do-nothingness obscured behind a facade of law enforcement community boosterism. By this tactic the GOP attempts to stall until 2020, when it can then point at Trump's failures (failures they have enabled by their stalling, wink wink) and then campaign to take "their" party back. In short, Sessions may just be an anti-Trump "mole" planted in the single most important position with regard to swamp draining, in order to ***prevent*** any swamp draining.

Let me be clear: in the last 24 years the DC political class has gone almost entirely criminal, with the last 13 years dedicated to serial war crimes. In this sort of situation the DoJ, AG, and FBI head, becomes corrupted, and turns away from the rule of law to become a shield for the DC criminal despotism.

So watch closely what happens next. Just today rumors have come out -- though I've been speaking of this for several weeks now -- that there is talk in the White House about ***recess appointments*** . We have reached the crucial moment, and I for one am surprised that, as important as this is, it has not been prominent in public discussion until now. The "August" was scheduled to begin at the end of business tomorrow, July 28th. Because of the health care business, McConnell has postponed it for two weeks, so let's call it for close of business Friday, August 11th. That's fifteen days from now.

When Congress goes home fifteen days from now, this country and the world may very well change forever. Go to Wikipedia and look up "recess appointment". Here's what you will find:

" a recess appointment is an appointment by the President of a federal official while the U.S. Senate is in recess.

Recess appointments are authorized by Article II, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution, which states:

The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session .

If Trump is the fighter I think he is, then this is what he has been waiting for, ever so patiently these last six months. Notice that the Congress cannot countermand recess appointments. Recess appointments end by expiration, and then only at the end of the following Congressional session. Other than impeachment, Congress cannot stop Trump from doing this .

So Trump dumps Sessions, purges the anti-Trump prosecutors from previous administrations, and appoints a new FBI head and dozens of fire-breathing swamp-draining prosecutors who immediately start doling out orange jumpsuits. He could -- not saying that he would execute this "nuclear option" -- but he could lock up virtually the entire Congress on war crimes charges; Neocons for conspiracy to commit war crimes; Cheney, Addington, Yoo, and Bybee to the Hague for torture; Hillary and Obama for Libya.

Control of the DoJ is the key.

The next two weeks will show whether Trump is the real deal, or just another schlub.

[Jan 26, 2019] Can the current US neoliberal/neoconservative elite be considered suicidal?

Highly recommended!
Can the elite be afflicted by some mass disease. Is Neoconservatism a deadly infection ?
Theoretically Democracy depends on information freely available and responsibility of the citizenry to make decisions based on that information. The political elites have made certain precious little of reliable, unclouded and relevant information ever gets broadcast even while popularizing, promoting and rewarding every form of misrepresentation, ignorance and irresponsibility. In other words they spearheaded a dangerous disease to stay in power. And eventually got infected themselves.
Notable quotes:
"... "But what if the elites get things wrong? What if the policies they promulgate produce grotesque inequality or lead to permanent war? Who then has the authority to disregard the guardians, if not the people themselves? How else will the elites come to recognize their folly and change course?" ..."
"... That is how they maintain control and manipulate government to facilitate their own interests to the detriment of the rest of society. Bretix and President Trump have upset their apple cart, which they felt certain was invulnerable and immune to challenge. ..."
"... The elites aren't interested in polls showing Americans want out of Syria and Afghanistan, are they? Can't have mere citizens having influencing decisions like that. ..."
"... An excellent piece. I would add only that the so-called elites mentioned by Mr Bacevich are largely the products of the uppermost stratum of colleges and universities, at least in the USA, and that for a generation or more now, those institutions have indoctrinated rather than educated. ..."
"... As their more recent alumni move into government, media and cultural production, the primitiveness of their views and their inability to think - to say nothing of their fundamental ignorance about our civilization other than that it is bad and evil - begin to have real effect. ..."
Jan 20, 2019 | www.theamericanconservative.com

Kent January 18, 2019 at 11:30 am

"But what if the elites get things wrong? What if the policies they promulgate produce grotesque inequality or lead to permanent war? Who then has the authority to disregard the guardians, if not the people themselves? How else will the elites come to recognize their folly and change course?"

What if, on election day, you only have a choice between 2 candidates. Both favoring all the wrong choices, but one tends to talk up Christianity and family and the other talks up diversity.

And both get their funding from the very wealthy and corporations. And any 3rd choices would be "throwing your vote away". How would you ever get to vote for someone who might change course?

Democracy has little to actually do with choice or power.

mlopez, January 18, 2019 at 6:22 pm

GB may not have been any utopia in 1914, but it was certainly geo-politically dominant. It's common people's social, economic and cultural living standards most assuredly was vastly improved over Russian, or European peasants. There can be no serious comparison with third world countries and regions.

As for the US, there can be absolutely no debate about its own dominance, or material standard of living after 1945 as compared to any where else in the world. More importantly, even uneducated and very contemporary observers were capable of recognizing how our elites had sold out their interests in favor of the furtherance of their own.

If we are on about democratic government, then it's been generations since either country and their peoples have had any real democracy. Democracy depends on information freely available and responsibility of the citizenry to make decisions based on that information. The political elites have made certain precious little of reliable, unclouded and relevant information ever gets broadcast even while popularizing, promoting and rewarding every form of misrepresentation, ignorance and irresponsibility.

That is how they maintain control and manipulate government to facilitate their own interests to the detriment of the rest of society. Bretix and President Trump have upset their apple cart, which they felt certain was invulnerable and immune to challenge.

Hello / Goodbye, January 19, 2019 at 11:40 am

The elites aren't interested in polls showing Americans want out of Syria and Afghanistan, are they? Can't have mere citizens having influencing decisions like that.

Patzinak, January 19, 2019 at 5:07 pm

What ineffable flummadiddle!

Prominent Brexiteers include Boris Johnson (dual UK/US citizenship, educated in Brussels and at Eton and Oxford, of mixed ancestry, including a link - by illegitimate descent - to the royal houses of Prussia and the UK); Jacob Rees-Mogg (son of a baron, educated at Eton and Oxford, amassed a solid fortune via hedge fund management); Arron Banks (millionaire, bankroller of UKIP, made to the Brexit campaign the largest ever political donation in UK politics).

So much for "the elite" being against Brexit!

But the main problem with Brexit is this. Having voted by a slim margin in favour of Brexit, the Great British Public then, in the general election, denied a majority to the government that had undertaken to implement it, and elected a Parliament of whom, by a rough estimate, two thirds oppose Brexit.

It ain't that "the elite" got "things wrong". It's that bloody Joe Public can't make his mind what to do - and go through with it.

Rossbach, January 20, 2019 at 2:14 pm

"Whether the imagined utopia of a dominant Great Britain prior to 1914 or a dominant America after 1945 ever actually existed is beside the point."

It wasn't to restore any defunct utopia that led people to vote for Brexit or Donald Trump; it was to check the descent of the Anglosphere into the totalitarian dystopia of forced multi-cultural globalism that caused voters to reject the EU in Britain and Hillary Clinton in the US. It is because they believed that only with the preservation of their national independence was there any chance or hope for a restoration of individual liberty that our people voted as they did.

Ratings System, January 17, 2019 at 1:27 pm

It's why they won't enjoy their privileges much longer. That stale charade can't and won't last.

We don't have a meritocracy. We have a pseudo-meritocracy with an unduly large contingent of aliens, liars, cheats, frauds, and incompetents. They give each other top marks, speak each other's PC language, and hire each other's kids. And they don't understand why things are falling apart, and why they are increasingly hated by real Americans.

A very nasty decade or two is coming our way, but after we've swept out the filth there will be a good chance that Americans will be Americans again.

Paul Reidinger, January 17, 2019 at 2:03 pm

An excellent piece. I would add only that the so-called elites mentioned by Mr Bacevich are largely the products of the uppermost stratum of colleges and universities, at least in the USA, and that for a generation or more now, those institutions have indoctrinated rather than educated.

As their more recent alumni move into government, media and cultural production, the primitiveness of their views and their inability to think - to say nothing of their fundamental ignorance about our civilization other than that it is bad and evil - begin to have real effect. The new dark age is no longer imminent. It is here, and it is them. I see no way to rectify the damage. When minds are ruined young, they remain ruined.

[Jan 20, 2019] Degeneration of the US neoliberal elite can be partially attributed to the conversion of neoliberal universities into indoctrination mechanism, rather then institutions for fostering critical thinking

Notable quotes:
"... An excellent piece. I would add only that the so-called elites mentioned by Mr Bacevich are largely the products of the uppermost stratum of colleges and universities, at least in the USA, and that for a generation or more now, those institutions have indoctrinated rather than educated. ..."
"... As their more recent alumni move into government, media and cultural production, the primitiveness of their views and their inability to think -- to say nothing of their fundamental ignorance about our civilization other than that it is bad and evil -- begin to have real effect. ..."
Jan 20, 2019 | www.theamericanconservative.com

Paul Reidinger, January 17, 2019 at 2:03 pm

An excellent piece. I would add only that the so-called elites mentioned by Mr Bacevich are largely the products of the uppermost stratum of colleges and universities, at least in the USA, and that for a generation or more now, those institutions have indoctrinated rather than educated.

As their more recent alumni move into government, media and cultural production, the primitiveness of their views and their inability to think -- to say nothing of their fundamental ignorance about our civilization other than that it is bad and evil -- begin to have real effect. The new dark age is no longer imminent. It is here, and it is them. I see no way to rectify the damage. When minds are ruined young, they remain ruined.

[Jan 17, 2019] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-10/f-35-program-costs-jump-to-406-billion-in-new-pentagon-estimate

Jan 17, 2019 | www.bloomberg.com

What a bunch of fools. As Tucker Carlson aptly said

Most terrifying of all, the crew has become incompetent. They have no idea how to sail. They're spinning the ship's wheel like they're playing roulette and cackling like mental patients.

The boat is listing, taking on water, about to sink. They're totally unaware that any of this is happening. As waves wash over the deck, they're awarding themselves majestic new titles and raising their own salaries. You look on in horror, helpless and desperate. You have nowhere to go. You're trapped on a ship of fools.

Plato imagined this scene in The Republic. He never mentions what happened to the ship. It would be nice to know. What was written as an allegory is starting to feel like a documentary, as generations of misrule threaten to send our country beneath the waves.

The people who did it don't seem aware of what they've done. They don't want to know, and they don't want you to tell them. Facts threaten their fantasies. And so they continue as if what they're doing is working, making mistakes and reaping consequences that were predictable even to Greek philosophers thousands of years before the Internet.
They're fools. The rest of us are their passengers.

[Jan 12, 2019] Mass Dementia in the Western Establishment by Diana Johnstone

A mind is a terrible thing to lose
Any unbiased observer would suspect that considerable part of US Congress consists of senile gerantocrats...
Notable quotes:
"... You can accuse only the elites of dementia: they forgot that to enjoy the fruits of your thievery you have to be alive. ..."
"... They tricked us the last time, I hope that the people have learned their lesson – not to trust them anymore. ..."
"... Thank you, this is an excellent summary of the situation right now. It's worth noting too just how disconnected the establishment is from the wider public. They have enormous financial resources and access to the entire legacy media ..."
"... Let's stop using the word "elites". That sounds too positive, as though they have some admirable traits acquired by hard work, as in "elite athletes". Instead, let's call them "oligarchs" so that we get the right nuances of wealth and power, and get the correct emotional connotations of our disgust with them. We should label them with labels that they will dislike: oligarchs, mob bosses, etc. ..."
"... This is not irrational. The screaming, the hysteria, this is the utterly rational, breathtakingly brutal reaction of a ruling elite that has the moral sense of a reptile. And it's working. All of Trump's campaign promises to stop wasting trillions on pointless winless foreign wars of choice, and instead spend that on our own country? Gone. And so much else besides. ..."
"... It's dangerous to underestimate an enemy. The useful idiot foot soldiers, screaming in mindless herd instinct, are one thing. The people behind them – the Koch brothers, Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, others – there is nothing at all mindless or demented about them. ..."
Jan 12, 2019 | www.unz.com

Where to begin to analyze the madness of mainstream media in reaction to the Trump-Putin meeting in Helsinki? By focusing on the individual, psychology has neglected the problem of mass insanity, which has now overwhelmed the United States establishment, its mass media and most of its copycat European subsidiaries. The individuals may be sane, but as a herd they are ready to leap off the cliff.

For the past two years, a particular power group has sought to explain away its loss of power – or rather, its loss of the Presidency, as it still holds a predominance of institutional power – by creation of a myth. Mainstream media is known for its herd behavior, and in this case the editors, commentators, journalists have talked themselves into a story that initially they themselves could hardly take seriously.

Donald Trump was elected by Russia ?

On the face of it, this is preposterous. Okay, the United States can manage to rig elections in Honduras, or Serbia, or even Ukraine, but the United States is a bit too big and complex to leave the choice of the Presidency to a barrage of electronic messages totally unread by most voters. If this were so, Russia wouldn't need to try to "undermine our democracy". It would mean that our democracy was already undermined, in tatters, dead. A standing corpse ready to be knocked over by a tweet.

Even if, as is alleged without evidence, an army of Russian bots (even bigger than the notorious Israeli army of bots) was besieging social media with its nefarious slanders against poor innocent Hillary Clinton, this could determine an election only in a vacuum, with no other influences in the field. But there was a lot of other stuff going on in the 2016 election, some for Trump and some for Hillary, and Hillary herself scored a crucial own goal by denigrating millions of Americans as "deplorables" because they didn't fit into her identity politics constituencies.

The Russians could do nothing to build support for Trump, and there is not a hint of evidence that they tried. They might have done something to harm Hillary, because there was so much there: the private server emails, the Clinton foundation, the murder of Moammer Gaddafi, the call for a no-fly zone in Syria they didn't have to invent it. It was there. So was the hanky panky at the Democratic National Committee, on which the Clintonite accusations focus, perhaps to cause everyone to forget much worse things.

When you come to think of it, the DNC scandal focused on Debbie Wasserman Schultz, not on Hillary herself. Screaming about "Russian hacking the DNC" has been a distraction from much more serious accusations against Hillary Clinton. Bernie Sanders supporters didn't need those "revelations" to make them stop loving Hillary or even to discover that the DNC was working against Bernie. It was always perfectly obvious.

So at worst, "the Russians" are accused of revealing some relatively minor facts concerning the Hillary Clinton campaign. Big deal.

But that is enough, after two years of fakery, to send the establishment into a frenzy of accusations of "treason" when Trump does what he said he would do while campaigning, try to normalize relations with Russia.

This screaming comes not only from the US mainstream, but also from that European elite which has been housebroken for seventy years as obedient poodles, dachshunds or corgis in the American menagerie, via intense vetting by US trans-Atlantic "cooperation" associations. They have based their careers on the illusion of sharing the world empire by following U.S. whims in the Middle East and transforming the mission of their armed forces from defense into foreign intervention units of NATO under U.S. command. Having not thought seriously about the implications of this for over half a century, they panic at the suggestion of being left to themselves.

The Western elite is now suffering from self-inflicted dementia.

Donald Trump is not particularly articulate, navigating through the language with a small repetitive vocabulary, but what he said at his Helsinki press conference was honest and even brave. As the hounds bay for his blood, he quite correctly refused to endorse the "findings" of US intelligence agencies, fourteen years after the same agencies "found" that Iraq was bursting with weapons of mass destruction. How in the world could anyone expect anything else?

But for the mainstream media, "the story" at the Helsinki summit, even the only story, was Trump's reaction to the, er, trumped up charges of Russian interference in our democracy. Were you or were you not elected thanks to Russian hackers? All they wanted was a yes or no answer. Which could not possibly be yes. So they could write their reports in advance.

Anyone who has frequented mainstream journalists, especially those who cover the "big stories" on international affairs, is aware of their obligatory conformism, with few exceptions. To get the job, one must have important "sources", meaning government spokesmen who are willing to tell you what "the story" is, often without being identified. Once they know what "the story" is, competition sets in: competition as to how to tell it. That leads to an escalation of rhetoric, variations on the theme: "The President has betrayed our great country to the Russian enemy. Treason!"

This demented chorus on "Russian hacking" prevented mainstream media from even doing their job. Not even mentioning, much less analyzing, any of the real issues at the summit. To find analysis, one must go on line, away from the official fake news to independent reporting. For example, "the Moon of Alabama" site offers an intelligent interpretation of the Trump strategy , which sounds infinitely more plausible than "the story". In short, Trump is trying to woo Russia away from China, in a reverse version of Kissinger's strategy forty years ago to woo China away from Russia, thus avoiding a continental alliance against the United States. This may not work because the United States has proven so untrustworthy that the cautious Russians are highly unlikely to abandon their alliance with China for shadows. But it makes perfect sense as an explanation of Trump's policy, unlike the caterwauling we've been hearing from Senators and talking heads on CNN.

Those people seem to have no idea of what diplomacy is about. They cannot conceive of agreements that would be beneficial to both sides. No, it's got to be a zero sum game, winner take all. If they win, we lose, and vice versa.

They also have no idea of the harm to both sides if they do not agree. They have no project, no strategy. Just hate Trump.

He seems totally isolated, and every morning I look at the news to see if he has been assassinated yet.

It is unimaginable for our Manichean moralists that Putin might also be under fire at home for failing to chide the American president for U.S. violations of human rights in Guantanamo, murderous drone strikes against defenseless citizens throughout the Middle East, the destruction of Libya in violation of the UN mandate, interference in the elections of countless countries by government-financed "non-governmental organizations" (the National Endowment of Democracy), worldwide electronic spying, invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, not to mention the world's greatest prison population and regular massacres of school children. But the diplomatic Russians know how to be polite.

Still, if Trump actually makes a "deal", there may be losers – neither the U.S. nor Russia but third parties. When two great powers reach agreement, it is often at somebody else's expense. The West Europeans are afraid it will be them, but such fears are groundless. All Putin wants is normal relations with the West, which is not much to ask.

Rather, candidate number one for paying the price are the Palestinians, or even Iran, in marginal ways. At the press conference, asked about possible areas of cooperation between the two nuclear powers, Trump suggested that the two could agree on helping Israel:

"We both spoke with Bibi Netanyahu. They would like to do certain things with respect to Syria, having to do with the safety of Israel. In that respect, we absolutely would like to work in order to help Israel. Israel will be working with us. So both countries would work jointly."

In political terms, Trump knows where political power lies, and is counting on the influence of the pro-Israel lobby, which recognizes the defeat in Syria and the rising influence of Russia, to save him from the liberal imperialists – a daring bet, but he does not have much choice.

On another subject, Trump said that "our militaries" get along with the Russians "better than our politicians". This is another daring bet, on military realism that could somehow neutralize military industrial congressional complex lobbying for more and more weapons.

In short, the only chance to end the nuclear war threat may depend on support for Trump from Israel and the Pentagon!

The hysterical neoliberal globalists seem to have ruled out any other possibility – and perhaps this one too.

"Constructive dialogue between the United States and Russia forwards the opportunity to open new pathways toward peace and stability in our world" Trump declared "I would rather take a political risk in pursuit of peace than to risk peace in pursuit of politics."

That is more than his political enemies can claim.

Mass Dementia in the Western Establishment

exiled off mainstreet , says: July 20, 2018 at 7:02 am GMT

This is a frightening, accurate commentary on what we face as a result of an unaccountable power structure resorting to any and all means to retain power which, if this structure continues to exercise it, will lead to our extinction.
Donatella , says: July 21, 2018 at 2:08 pm GMT
Thanks to say things that make me feel not alone.
AnonFromTN , says: July 22, 2018 at 3:30 am GMT
In the establishment, it's not dementia as such, it's just serving the highest bidder. You can accuse only the elites of dementia: they forgot that to enjoy the fruits of your thievery you have to be alive. If only they die, it would be a great service to the humanity. Unfortunately, the way things go, they might take us all with them.
Cyrano , says: July 22, 2018 at 8:42 am GMT
This mass hysteria over a country hostile to both democracy and gay rights (it's hard to tell which one is worse) has been seen in the west before.

It's very reminiscent of the lead-up to Iraq war in 2003. I mean what's next? Are they gonna accuse Russia of having WMD's too?

They are pretty good at providing false evidence of WMD's, I wouldn't be surprised if they stage another presentation of evidence of Russian WMD's at UN, complete with satellite images of mobile trucks equipped with Uranium enrichment technology and all that.

That Nikki Halley can be quite persuasive, you know. I just hope that the world doesn't buy that BS again. Russia having WMD's? That's preposterous. They tricked us the last time, I hope that the people have learned their lesson – not to trust them anymore.

Cagey Beast , says: July 22, 2018 at 11:18 am GMT
Thank you, this is an excellent summary of the situation right now. It's worth noting too just how disconnected the establishment is from the wider public. They have enormous financial resources and access to the entire legacy media but seem to have almost no real base of support. Remember how the Never Trumpers had no one more prominent and well-known than Evan McMullan (!!) to run as their candidate? Note too the tiny number of views the YouTube videos of the Aspen Institute get: https://www.youtube.com/user/AspenInstitute/videos .

On its own, these things aren't conclusive proof but together they add up. The Aspen Institute crowd is an almost entirely self-contained subculture. They seem to have no base of support, beyond their stacks of money, job titles and the power that come with the various offices they hold. That's probably why they can never stop calling their opponents "populists" or why Bill Kristol keeps tweeting about encountering scrappy shoeshine boys who shout "give Trump hell, Mr Kristol!" as he goes about his urban peregrinations.

Anonymous [115] Disclaimer , says: July 22, 2018 at 11:54 am GMT
OT

Diana Johnstone is not alone. Others on the alt-Left are starting to wake up, too. This is Joaquín Flores:

People are seeing through dishonesty, and the old language traps are used up and done for. If reconquista is the goal, then we need to have an honest conversation about that. If there's a Latino nation with self determination in the south-west US, or rights 'back' to the south-west US, then let's speak of it in such terms. Because then we'd be looking at a Euro-American nation also. Now of course there's issues of interpenetrated peoples, and identities we carry in our minds in diverse urban centers. But the point here is that we have to have an honest discourse, and stop hiding reconquista sentiments under the rubric of 'human rights'. Because European-Americans don't have right of return to Europe, so the left is promoting what will ultimately be a race war, full scale, if they don't chill the fuck out and back off this disingenuous approach to policy-wonkism on immigration.

The paradigmatic question today is, how is wealth made, and where does wealth come from? What is the balance of trade and debts, and how is that is no longer manageable? The US empire and NATO is no longer manageable. Trump is unwinding NATO. That can't be a bad thing.

https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/07/explaining-trump-to-socialist-liberals-flores/

Fort Russ News is really turning out to be a leading voice of the Third Way movement.

Tulips , says: July 22, 2018 at 7:31 pm GMT
@AnonFromTN Let's stop using the word "elites". That sounds too positive, as though they have some admirable traits acquired by hard work, as in "elite athletes". Instead, let's call them "oligarchs" so that we get the right nuances of wealth and power, and get the correct emotional connotations of our disgust with them. We should label them with labels that they will dislike: oligarchs, mob bosses, etc.
AnonFromTN , says: July 22, 2018 at 9:44 pm GMT
@Tulips You are right, of course, the word "elites" has too many positive connotations. In fact, they are oligarchs, mega-thieves, or something on those lines. Functionally, in our society they are puppet masters of all the venal puppets (politicians, journos, etc.).
TG , says: July 23, 2018 at 4:56 am GMT
I hear you, and I sympathize, but this is not mass dementia. The oligarchy that runs the United States was worried that Donald Trump might actually (!!) take some consideration for the national interest of the people of the United States of America. That will never do.

This is not irrational. The screaming, the hysteria, this is the utterly rational, breathtakingly brutal reaction of a ruling elite that has the moral sense of a reptile. And it's working. All of Trump's campaign promises to stop wasting trillions on pointless winless foreign wars of choice, and instead spend that on our own country? Gone. And so much else besides.

It's dangerous to underestimate an enemy. The useful idiot foot soldiers, screaming in mindless herd instinct, are one thing. The people behind them – the Koch brothers, Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, others – there is nothing at all mindless or demented about them.

peterAUS , says: July 23, 2018 at 5:48 am GMT
@TG Agree.

Having a title "Mass Dementia in the Western Establishment" and approaching this effort as "mass insanity", "demented chorus" etc. is simply delusional.

They know exactly what they are doing and, it appears, they are doing it well. The are able to create their own reality. What puzzles me a bit isn't "them" or their servants (media etc.). It's people in general. They appear to be buying that manufactured reality with ease. In this era of instant communications it's .sobering. This constant shitting on "them" and their servants is fine and dandy but feels as just a feel good exercise. Perhaps some effort could be spared in trying to analyze and explain common people approach to all this. The buying, hook and sinker, that manufacture.

Anyone with an average intelligence can, in two hours trawling of Internet, get how false all that is. And, yet, here we are.
The same people who can spend hours on social media, shopping and entertainment online can't, for SOME reason, figure all that out.

Easy to blame "them" and media/academia/whatever. Maybe it's time to start passing a bit of blame to people in general.

Not holding my breath.

jilles dykstra , says: July 23, 2018 at 7:31 am GMT
@Tulips I suggest 'ruling class'
Anon [122] Disclaimer , says: July 23, 2018 at 8:07 am GMT
@Daniel Rich The Russians are by nature cautious. They are a conglomerate of individuals, many of whom remember times when they would be sent by communist tyrants to a gulag for Wrongthink. Of course they're cautious.
Daniel Rich , says: July 23, 2018 at 8:13 am GMT
H.E. Mr. Putin clearly knows what the USA/West is about – Link to Youtube [03:42]
nagra , says: July 23, 2018 at 8:34 am GMT
How Hillary Clinton could even run for presidency after the murder of Moammer Gaddafi and Libya destruction, in any decent civilisation and society.
That's planetary shame and the most important question, not DNC hack or anything else, which just trace in wrong direction.

So, Trump should grow some balls and arrest not just her but Barack Obama as well on the same charges, as war criminals as they are, and prove that he really deserves to be trusted. And sacrifice himself in the process if needed as that would do any honest true US president, and he knew what to expect from such position from the start.

It's not TV reality show, as still it is. All he cares about is his ego and popularity, and he is loosing both.

Israel lobby finally see that they put their money in the wrong bank. I intend to believe more that West, namely USA and UK the most, keeps them more hostage in uncertainty for decades than in some Jewish conspiracy. Also, I also believe that only Russia can guaranty Israel security and peace in the region.

Sean , says: July 23, 2018 at 10:12 am GMT

In political terms, Trump knows where political power lies, and is counting on the influence of the pro-Israel lobby, which recognizes the defeat in Syria and the rising influence of Russia, to save him from the liberal imperialists – a daring bet, but he does not have much choice.

Saudi Arabia spent 40 billion dollars helping Saddam's Iraq in its war against Iran, the cost of US efforts in the Syria civil war have largely been met by the Saudis. The coming attack on Iran will be as much to please the Saudis as to lock Israel into West Bank Arab expulsion mode. The Israel Lobby will is not pushing Donald Trump, they are playing catch up with him. Trump has already shown with the Jerusalem recognition that he is encouraging Israel in unilateral courses of action.

Cagey Beast , says: July 23, 2018 at 10:42 am GMT
@TG No, I agree with the assessment in this article and its title: the establishment is dangerously detached from reality right now. Our stagnant and locked-down political culture in the West allowed the "elite" to develop a false sense of security and and certainty. They thought they had things pretty much figured out a few years ago but now they're genuinely panicked.
yurivku , says: July 23, 2018 at 10:43 am GMT
Looking to this circus from Russia, to those insane speaches, insulting caricatures in MSM, I understand the huge amount of rotteness of Western society, mainly its high top part, but not only. Even here in comments (not in this particularly article) the percentage of trolls and brainwashed idiots exceeds all I could've imagined. So I stopped writing here – no sense, I beleive that something can change only after the dramatic changes in US/West society and that is possible only after a big war/revolution.
So, I'm afraid our future is vague

[Jan 11, 2019] That is another surefire sign of degeneracy: when a regime can only produce incompetent, often old, leaders who are completely out of touch with reality and who blame their own failures on everyone but themselves

Jan 11, 2019 | www.unz.com

jacques sheete , says: Next New Comment January 11, 2019 at 1:04 pm GMT

That is another surefire sign of degeneracy: when a regime can only produce incompetent, often old, leaders who are completely out of touch with reality and who blame their own failures on [everyone but themselves].

Another sign of degeneracy is that masses of people put their faith in such human garbage and fantasize that the essentially effortless task of casting ballots every few years will somehow, perhaps magically, improve their situations. Even more telling is the infantilism demonstrated by the attitude that they're special and "da gweatist" and that the world should cater to their every whim just like mommy and daddy did.

Dream on, darlings!

macilrae , says: Next New Comment January 11, 2019 at 3:29 pm GMT

Unlike the Titanic, most collapsed regimes don't fully sink. They remain about half under water, and half above, possibly with an orchestra still playing joyful music. And in the most expensive top deck cabins, a pretty luxurious lifestyle can be maintained by the elites.

A clever metaphor.

incompetent, often old, leaders who are completely out of touch with reality and who blame their own failures on internal ("deplorables") and external ("the Russians") factors.

Just so.

Dmitry Orlov's assessment rings dead true to me. The most terrifying factor is that a doomed and demented US administration may resort to the use of its vast air and missile power to save itself.

[Jan 02, 2019] That madness of the US neocons comes from having no behavioural limits, no references outside of groupthink, and manipulating the language. Simply put, you don't know anymore what's what outside of the narrative your group pushes. The manipulators ends up caught in their lies.

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... Some years ago, I noticed the American media and politicians were sort of going soft (actually mushy) in the brain department, but I was told not to be so judgemental. As the months went by, I saw more and more people saying "they have gone nuts". So, it turns out I am not alone after all. ..."
"... That madness comes from having no behavioural limits, no references outside of your own opinion but groupthink, and manipulating the language to suit your ambitions (the Orwellism of the US media has been repeatedly pointed at). Simply put, you don't know anymore what's what outside of the narrative your group pushes, you go nuts. The manipulators ends up caught in their lies. All the more when they makes money out of it, which would be the case of all those think tanks and media. ..."
"... War or the threat of war is needed to distract attention from rapidly devolving societal bonds and immense economic inequality. ..."
Jan 02, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

Lea , Feb 21, 2018 6:16:53 AM | link

Some years ago, I noticed the American media and politicians were sort of going soft (actually mushy) in the brain department, but I was told not to be so judgemental. As the months went by, I saw more and more people saying "they have gone nuts". So, it turns out I am not alone after all.

That madness comes from having no behavioural limits, no references outside of your own opinion but groupthink, and manipulating the language to suit your ambitions (the Orwellism of the US media has been repeatedly pointed at). Simply put, you don't know anymore what's what outside of the narrative your group pushes, you go nuts. The manipulators ends up caught in their lies. All the more when they makes money out of it, which would be the case of all those think tanks and media.

One could argue that they are not going mad, that they know full well they are lying, but I beg to differ: they don't see anymore how ridiculous or how dumb or smart their arguments are. That would be congruent with a real loss of touch with reality.

One wonders what they see when they look at themselves in a mirror, a garden variety propagandist or a fearless anti-Putin crusader?

Another example of the narrative gone mad: they are sending CNN journos to meet pro-Trump folks who "have been influenced by Russian trolls on social media". https://twitter.com/yashalevine/status/966177091875168256

WJ , Feb 21, 2018 6:38:11 AM | link
War or the threat of war is needed to distract attention from rapidly devolving societal bonds and immense economic inequality.
Ger , Feb 21, 2018 7:52:44 AM | link
Dan @ 4

It is partially tied direct to the economy of the warmongers as trillions of dollars of new cold war slop is laying on the ground awaiting the MICC hogs. American hegemony is primarily about stealing the natural resources of helpless countries. Now in control of all the weak ones, it is time to move to the really big prize: The massive resources of Russia. They (US and their European Lackeys) thought this was a slam dunk when Yeltsin, in his drunken stupors, was literally giving Russia to invading capitalist. Enter Putin, stopped the looting .........connect the dots.

Guy Thornton , Feb 21, 2018 9:10:47 AM | link
Watching the USA these days is like watching a loved one with progressive dementia. I've reached the stage where I think the sooner it's over the better for everyone.

[Dec 15, 2017] The underlying problem of Trump vs. Hillary choice is the problem of the degradation of the US elite, a slide to gerontocracy which reminds me the deterioration of Soviet elite. At this point people do not respect their leaders. Much like was the case in the USSR after 1960

Dec 09, 2017 | www.zerohedge.com

Internet-is-Beast -> Ms No , Dec 9, 2017 3:25 AM

I acknowledge what you are saying. However, I have learned that when one is in the midst of a pessimistic scenario, one tends to develop tunnel vision and assume that the future will be like the present, only worse. Though I despise psychology as a science, this is a very psychological phenomenon. Granting what you say about Trump and the false optimism he generated, I voted for him not because I hated Trump less, but that I hated Hillary more.

Nevertheless, notwithstanding, in spite of all this, I do have a certain optimism about the American people, as a rayon de lumière in a gloomy prospect.

Davidduke2000 -> Internet-is-Beast , Dec 9, 2017 3:05 AM

keep the blinders on, even better yet wear the virtual reality goggles of MAGA while the country is living off a never ending fraud.

Every part of the us government is a fraud, the money is a fraud, wall street is a fraud, 99% of the food you eat is kosher fraud and you pension is fraud as the money is not there to allow you to collect your pension yet most people are paying dearly for their pension and the money goes to either israel or the profiteers of the war machine.

Clock Crasher -> Ms No , Dec 9, 2017 12:57 AM

They are toast. The leaks are not going to stop. Once the baby boom generation dies off completely the next generations will clean up their mess. The baby boom can't see past their own prosperity. But everyone else is ready for reform.

(trying to throw a little optimism into the mix)

Think about it.. when you look at the electoral map by county HRC was thoroughly crushed. Is DJT a SomaSalesMan aka Mega Psyop.. who the fuck knows. The awakening is happen Chinese water torture style.

This is a lot like being a Gold perma Bull. We want to come into the forums every day and write about how hopeless the situation is (a lot like what I do here everyday).

Just remember this.. Even Mao's wife had to stand trial for crimes against the populace. In 20 years the babyboomers will be out of the way and we can get onto bigger and better things.

Davidduke2000 -> Clock Crasher , Dec 9, 2017 2:58 AM

the biggest problems come from the millennial who grew up with bullshit, baby boomers lived threw a lot of american bullshit and they are the ones like PCR are warning the youngs that america's days are numbered . even Deagel.com predict that the us population in 2025 will dwindle from 325 million to only 55 millions, where do you think the 275 million will go? nuclear war will take care of them.

http://www.deagel.com/country/forecast.aspx

the corruption is so great that every single new weapon does not work and all these weapons are built at a great cost. The bulk of the left activists are millennials , the same with the super left, yet on the right the millennials are busy filing their nails, surfing and buying bitcoin for a quick profit.

I am Canadian, I am an outsider and see clearly as I am not part of the system, I see a country where the leaders convinced the population that they are exceptional but the people took it as a compliment, it was meant to fool them into a sense of being above the rest of the world, yet most americans do not know the capital of florida, california, mississippi, alabama yet they are in their own country.

This exceptionalism is preventing them from understanding the danger they are in.

For the first time I see a consensus on zerohedge that PCR is 100% right and the posters are worried what will become of america if israel is left with a huge hold on all us presidents and on the political infrastructure of the us and they agree with PCR on the list of propaganda the us have been telling the citizens to keep them distracted from knowing that their days are numbered when the Russians might attack thinking america wants to annihilate them.

FredFlintstone -> Ms No , Dec 9, 2017 5:55 AM

Damnit! I just wanted to retire quietly to a golf course.

veritas semper ... , Dec 9, 2017 12:27 AM

Pax Britannica<< Pax Americana<< Pax Judaica.

We are in the late stages of Pax Judaica. They, through their money magic,usury,fiat printing,and the bought/paid for/bribed/blackmailed sycophants,rule almost the whole world.The West entirely.

They have push so much,on all aspects of the society,that the recoil is going to be devastating.We started seeing this with the Jerusalem f*ck up.

US can not be saved at this point. It is at the Event Horizon already. I don't know what will be left of it: a few 4th world small countries ,where warlords kill each other? Americans love violence.

I absolutely sure IS...RA...EL is NOT going to survive. Neither Saudi Barbaria. Especially after this last blunder.

Will they go into the dustbin of history gracefully,without destroying the whole world in the process?

I don't think so,they are psychopaths.They do not like to lose or to be exposed for what they really are.

PCR makes a valid point. The Russians are patient ,balanced, intelligent people,but if they sense they are dealing with irrational ones ,they will not take a chance. The Russians have already said that US is not agreement capable, a great insult in their view.

Internet-is-Beast -> veritas semper vinces , Dec 9, 2017 2:46 AM

Referencing your first line, there's also "army intelligence" "Long Island expressway" to cite a couple of other examples of the same wordplay.

HRClinton -> veritas semper vinces , Dec 9, 2017 3:44 AM

Pax Iudaea. Delenda est.

Hostis humani generis. Delenda est.

roddy6667 -> JibjeResearch , Dec 9, 2017 1:06 AM

In America everybody has their labels (businessman, Libertarian, Democrat, Republican) so they can all fight with each other better. The country is so Balkanized that cannot function as a whole any more. I guess that was the plan all along.

IDESofMARCH , Dec 9, 2017 1:07 AM

Peace and truth are not welcome at the Whitehouse which should be painted BLOOD RED. Politicians are a greedy bloodthirsty criminals, That includes Trump. If you want to save the world from WW3 which we are watching incubate. ALL current crop of politicians have to be thrown out of government. YOU NEED A BLOODY REVOLUTION and throw these criminals into maximum security with the killers and molestors to do as they wish with them.

Without public revolt we'll just keep seeing, hearing and swallowing fake news after fake news brain wash and send our children to kill the innocent in WAR after WAR.

Walt , Dec 9, 2017 1:28 AM

Private interests and agendas have control over the US government. As in (((Private interests and agendas))) have control over the US government.

Seasmoke , Dec 9, 2017 1:34 AM

Don't forget the biggest lie. Even bigger than 9/11. That in the mid 2000s millions of deadbeats all decided to buy houses that they could not afford. What a joke of a country. Land of the fee. Home of the Slave.

Moe Howard , Dec 9, 2017 1:46 AM

"What Mueller is doing is so corrupt that he really should be arrested and renditioned to Egypt." Best line of the whole piece. Love it. We are not, however, "Walking Into Armageddon" Rather, we are "Slouching into the Apocolypse"

I am ENTERTAINED.

Ivan de beers , Dec 9, 2017 2:05 AM

Trump handing Jerusalem to israel is just the first step in setting up the rise of Israel and the fall of America. It is a symbolic transfer of power. All is left is world war 3 and the financial system collapse.

GardenWeasel , Dec 9, 2017 2:57 AM

PCR is way off this time. Flynn is acting as bait, and the swamp critters went for it. Trump and Bannon are playing the ol' rope-a-dope rather well. After the Dems and Deep Staters wear themselves out throwing all of these ineffective punches they will take them out.

ProsperD9 -> GardenWeasel , Dec 9, 2017 3:56 AM

You might be on to something...as the Dems and Deep State reveal themselves for what they really are, it makes it easier for Trump to go in for the kill....! They are getting more and more careless and their corruption and stupidity revealed more and more each day. I hope Trump be able to pave the way to cleaning up America and getting it back on its feet....we will see...!

jafo2me , Dec 9, 2017 3:01 AM

As many of you either know or have heard...

"THE" controllers of the puppet politicans, bankers and world leaders "WANT YOU TO LIVE IN FEAR." All the reasons stated by PCR are valid but not one of them is a reason to go out and get drunk tomorrow. Either you believe in your own fate and the actions which control the fate which you harvest "OR YOU DON'T."

Why would I worry about things I have zero control over, especially when I "KNOW" "THEY" live off of that fear? I will live every moment of my life in the joy and happiness which is this blessing to be alive "AND" will live in fear of no one. If you live your life this way they lose and you get to appreciate a gift which is greater then any material object on the planet.

The worse which they can do when you decide to refuse to live in fear of "THEM" is to take your life which they have no power to do either.. Put up your middle finger to all of them, smile and move on and enjoy what time you have here to make it the best you can do.

Choose not to live in fear of them..

We all fear death and question our place in the universe. The artist's job is not to succumb to despair, but to find an antidote for the emptiness of existence. ... Ernest Hemingway

slicktroutman -> jafo2me , Dec 9, 2017 8:40 AM

And then he killed himself.....l...

Conscious Reviver , Dec 9, 2017 3:08 AM

Two interesting pieces of news out of moonofalabama.org

First b says the real buyer of the fake $450M fake DaVinci is MbS, the KSA crown prince. Second, MbS just fired his Zino-friendly, Jared-friendly foreign minister.

jafo2me , Dec 9, 2017 3:23 AM

As for Flynn...

The rumors early on were that Flynn knew who all the pedophiles were in Washington, wanted to go after them "AND" would not back down. Trump's VP was included on that list and played a part in the decision to move him out of the public eye and into the position he currently occupies behind the scenes.

Interestingly enough it was supposedly this stupid explanation of him not telling Pence about his meeting with the Russian Ambassador which was the excuse as to why he had to be removed. On face value, think about how ridiculous this is. A decorated General who answers to the President withheld information on a meeting which is fairly typical military procedure.

"IT'S CALLED THE NEED TO KNOW." HELLO....

Trump could have simply stated that Flynn was not under orders from Pence and was acting under a protocol common to members within the Military but not common to politicians. If Pence wanted to know anything about what people within my Administration are doing he is always welcome to discuss it with me. PERIOD...

THE ENTIRE EXCUSE IS TOTAL BS AND THE WEAKNESS OF THAT EXCUSE GIVES ME SUSPICION TO BELIEVE THAT THE ORIGIONAL RUMORS WERE ACCURATE.

JailBanksters , Dec 9, 2017 3:29 AM

America Isn't "Walking Into Armageddon", America Is "Pushing for Armageddon"

Conscious Reviver -> JailBanksters , Dec 9, 2017 4:46 AM

The Fascist Tom Cotton with his hair on fire leading the charge. Metaphorically leading the charge to our own destruction. He would never get himself involved in any genuine battle charge. Russia is not my enemy or adversary.

JailBanksters -> Conscious Reviver , Dec 9, 2017 5:11 AM

Has Iraq, Libya, Syria, Iran, Russia, China, North Korea ever done any physical harm to the USA ? No ... How about the reverse ? Mmm, it appears the only ones that have attacked the USA are Saudi Arabia and Israel. But America does not attack them, instead it only attacks the countries that have never attacked the USA.

Is that wierd or what ?, it's almost as if there is another agenda at play.

slipreedip , Dec 9, 2017 4:57 AM

US foreign Policy in a nutshell. Its war...one way or another.

Stan Derdissue -> Tellthetruth , Dec 9, 2017 6:25 AM

You mean the Islam that allows grandads to marry and abuse 10 year olds. Husbands to beat up their wives, hang gay teenage boys off cranes in public squares. Whip 12 year old girls in public for wearing western tight jeans ( underneath their hijab may I add). Satan would approve of this sadistic protocol.

free corn , Dec 9, 2017 5:59 AM

it's amazing to see so much naivety here. People seems to believe that America/Russia are bad/good. But people it's not just imperialism anymore it's globalism. Therefore it's not about interests of countries but rather the ones of oligarchs. And oligarchs interests are international, so why would they be interested in Armageddon? Earth belong to them, why would they want to damage their wealth so much? i think we'll see busyness as usual - small wars, removing obstacles for transnationals, concentration of wealth and power and social engineering on global scale.

Conscious Reviver -> free corn , Dec 9, 2017 7:00 AM

The NWO globalism program failed already. Now we are on to something else.

slicktroutman -> Conscious Reviver , Dec 9, 2017 8:30 AM

Can you explain how it failed already? Be specific.

WTFUD -> free corn , Dec 9, 2017 7:23 AM

Naive, ha ha! Take a look at Libya, the War Crimes & Genocide, overseen by the US & Vassals and talk about Good/Bad, NO SON, we're talking Class A EVIL here, and in the other Regime Change Neocon Playbook. How many Foreign Bases/Entanglements are Russia involved in, outside of Russia? In their Only ME base/port in Syria the US tried to fuck them over. Now Russia has half a dozen strategic Bases ( including a meeting of minds with Egypt, Qatar, Libya, Turkey, Sudan ) to eliminate DAESH/al-CIAd'uh (US Constructs).

Lastly, Only through Threat and Intimidation can the US keep these Vassals on board. Have you not noticed how the Geopolitical Landmark is changing with Sovereigns flocking far and wide to Moscow, for an ALTERNATIVE to the Vassal Prisoner Status offered up by Vichy DC.

Naive Son? Z/Hedgers will call out Russia if they deviate from the Path of Righteousness.

No Russia didn't displace, maim, murder, tens of millions of citizens in the ME, VICHY DC did.

Dark star , Dec 9, 2017 6:46 AM

I read somewhere that the Ukrainian Army has changed its rule book to allow soldiers to wear beards. The inference from this is that those ISIS members rescued by the Americans are being shipped to Ukraine to fight with the Nazis against those in the East who object to Kiev's desire to genocide ethnic Russians. It would appear that, not content with arming Nazis and putting them in Ukraine's Government, the US is now putting an armed ISIS into Eastern Europe. Does anybody have more detail?

WTFUD -> Dark star , Dec 9, 2017 6:59 AM

Airlifting them from Der el Zor ( and inevitable destruction at the hands of Syrian/Hezbollah Bravehearts ) onto the demarcation line in the Donbass? Good luck with that Chestnut! What are the Jihadi's wearing, 3 SETS OF THERMALS? Let's put it this way, no matter how many Jihadi proxy scum/Advisers they airlift into Donbass there will be 10 times more FOREIGN FREEDOM-FIGHTERS (ok mainly Russian, but from Everywhere ) ready to join that gig, me included.

Death to ZATO!

WTFUD , Dec 9, 2017 6:47 AM

How convenient that Trump gets to play the Good Guy, supposedly fingers tied at every turn by Deep State, preventing him from reaching out.

There's not a shred of evidence that he's intervened to mend relations with Russia and if there is can someone shed light on this?

First up he has a filthy Neocon POS in Nikki Haley in the UN, the Only one on the Security Council who's a War Hawk (including the Palestinian fiasco ).

Did he intervene in the ILLEGAL eviction of Russian Diplomatic Quarters? Has he worked diligently with China & Russia to resolve DPRK or contributed to the Neocon war-drum beat with more bluster? Has he increased or defused tension in the ME by withdrawing US Troops or has he added to Obama's clandestine proxy jihadi recruitment programme by sending moar ADVISERS?

They say Tillerson's on his way out, to be replaced by a Neocon war-hawk in Mike Pompeo who's current charge of al-CIAd'uh covert operations is a continuation of the Obama failings.

Unlike Obama ( one of his few credits in 8 years ) Trump's Encouraging Netanyahu's Deviancy?

I've read over at the Saker/Other that behind the scenes Vichy DC could step up the supply of WMD's/Advisers to Kiev.

The US Coalition Forces in Syria (minus the US, lol), like their Iraqi counterparts (the Kurds in the main ) are at least talking with Russia/Government to thwart, long-term US Military Bases on Syrian soil. Obviously the US is unhappy about this with their Partition ambitions.

FUCK VICHY DC & EVERYONE IN IT!

Conscious Reviver -> WTFUD , Dec 9, 2017 7:05 AM

When Vicky Nuland's relatives ran Russia. https://youtube.com/watch?v=pRfY8CwjXvY

Able Ape , Dec 9, 2017 8:15 AM

The US suffers from MIC Induced Psychosis - the only cure is stop funding the military!...

"Rebellion to t... , Dec 9, 2017 8:33 AM

Pope John Paul II, Gorbachev, and Reagan, together, ended the Cold War. HW Bush is the architect on how the USA kept its military industrial complex intact. The USA no longer had an existential threat, and no longer a reason to maintain a multiple tens of billions annual defense budget. So HW Bush picked an enemy and started a global war, that continues to this day. The British military map makers, redrew much of the middle east, after WWI.

The state of Israel was already in the works, long before the story of the holocaust, some 20 years later. Anyway, Sadaam Hussein, leader of Iraq, and US ally, spoke to the Bush administration about Kuwait; and taking back for Iraq, what Sadaam believed the British map makers took away in 1917. Saddam was fooled, and the Bush administration had a reason to keep the military industrial complex intact. The globalism/new world order, that US and EU government officials speak of, is simply another way of saying that no one has any civil liberties and everyone is being monitored.

This dangerous game was effective and working for quite a while. A great deal of wealth and power transferred to a select few. The strategy went sideways when Mr Putin said enough is enough, in roughly 2011.

Now, freedom fighters have joined Mr Putin, such as Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, Barrett Brown, Manning, Glenn Greenwald, Sarah Carter,and many other, to restore freedom and honor back to the people of the world by shining light on all of the corruption.

It will take Trump and Sessions some time to restore trust and to root out the corruption.

The bottom line is that there are good people out there, who will never let this criminal behavior and corruption to be hidden from the unwashed masses.

Sudden Debt , Dec 9, 2017 9:01 AM

America is just looking for an excuse to send their young kids to war to get shot to pieces and get mentally fucked up so the drug industry can profit, the war industry can profit, the banks can profit...

in all...

It's clear that it's the patriotic thing to do.

[Feb 26, 2017] T>he code words like "pizza", "cheese", "hotdog", "pasta", etc. are from an FBI list of code words commonly used by pedophiles.

Feb 26, 2017 | kunstler.com
Pucker February 24, 2017 at 9:51 am # Apparently, the code words like "pizza", "cheese", "hotdog", "pasta", etc. are from an FBI list of code words commonly used by pedophiles. These words appear in the Podesta emails. They're not just found in the Podesta emails.

On page 20, it says that the strongest indicator of a pedophile is a person who collects child pornography. John Podesta's brother collected sexually bizarre and sadistic photos of young children.

ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/Digitization/149252NCJRS.pdf

    • hmuller February 24, 2017 at 10:06 am # Good point, Pucker. All the pro-Podesta apologists can't explain away the code language. Especially, disturbing are remarks (I think by owner James Alefantis) about 4 sick pizzas left over from the last session on sale for $1000. Be sure and dispose of them properly."

      Then there's Laura Silsby rescued from a Haitian jail by the Clintons after being caught trafficking in children for prostitution.

      Either JHK can't believe that such blatant evil exists in the world or he's pimping for that well entrenched crowd.

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          • malthuss February 24, 2017 at 5:01 pm # I have pages of Word docs and have listened to too many facts,
            Start with

            You Tube, Titus Frost, especially hhis talk and display of sick 'art' on his PIZZA BRAIN –investigated.

            Why is Katy Perry and the other bimbo, Miley, wearing Pizza Costumes?

            and,

            WHAT IS PIZZAGATE
            CHILD SEX SLAVERY
            PEDOPHILE RING
            BILL CLINTON SEX SCANDAL
            BILL CLINTON PEDOPHILIA
            BILL CLINTON SEX SLAVE ISLAND
            BILL CLINTON ORGY ISLAND
            LAURA SILSBY HAITi CHILD TRAFFICKING
            MONICA PETERSON
            CHILD SEX TRAFFICKING
            CLINTON HAITI
            THE CLINTON FOUNDATION
            JEFFREY EPSTEIN
            LOLITA EXPRESS
            PEDOPHILE ISLAND
            ROGER CLINTON COCAINE
            ROGER CLINTON PRESIDENTIAL PARDON
            DAN LASATER
            DAN LASATER PRESIDENTIAL PARDON
            PIZZAGATE EVIDENCE
            PIZZAGATE PROOF
            PIZZAGATE DOCUMENTARY
            END TIMES NEWS REPORT
            JAKE MORPHONIOS
            JAMES ALEFANTIS
            JOHN PODESTA
            TONY PODESTA
            COMET PING PONG
            etc.

        • Janos Skorenzy February 24, 2017 at 3:26 pm # Most intellectuals hate Conspiracies for two reasons: one good and one bad. On the good side, there is just too much lunacy and crackpottery once conjecture and Freud's "primary process" (fantasy) get going. On the bad side, they hate not having full information or at least a partial store of consensus information from which to analyze. But Life is Conspiracy – and sometimes we have to go with what we have. In this regards, detectives are superior to intellectuals: they do it all the time. Ditto scientists. It's the inductive process. Once you get enough you form a hypothesis. Then you test it. That's all we're asking for in regards to this case. And I think we both agree: what they would find would bring down the System.

          And there are two reasons these people can get away with it: one because of the number of the Elite who are involved. And second because people think a priori that it's not possible that such evil exists or that they could get away with it. Because people think it can't exist and they couldn't get away it enables them to get away with it.

          • Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence
          • Walter B February 24, 2017 at 7:47 pm # The utilization of "Conspiracy theorist" came about after the common man on the street started waking up to the fact that he was being screwed by those in power and lied to consistently. Did you know that during World War II, President Roosevelt, was onboard the battleship USS Iowa in route to North Africa when it was "accidently torpedoed" (the fish detonated in the ship's wake and did not actually impact the ship) by the US destroyer, the William D. Porter? Well it's the first I am hearing of it so I guess that these people are pretty good at keeping things quiet when they go wrong, especially REALLY wrong

            warhistoryonline.com/featured/fdr-torpedo-us-navy-destroyer.html

            I am reading the trilogy of the war by Rick Atkinson, and in the second book in the series, The Day of Battle, the revelation was detailed much to my surprise. If our own people can accidently fire a live torpedo at one of our own battleships, especially the one that happens to be transporting the standing President of the United States on it at the time, well there is no telling what supreme act of incompetence they will pull of next.

            Those who rule lie their asses off every damned day and cover up every damned screw up they create until enough time goes by so that those that are now in the general public don't give a damn anymore. You would have to be retarded or on their payroll to believe otherwise.

[Feb 15, 2017] Proof of sexual misconduct accumulated by the deep state makes it possible to dictate the votes of Congress, decisions of judges and administrators

thesaker.is

Talks-to-Cats on February 14, 2017 , · at 5:51 pm UTC

Never mind their sex lives

@Greg Schofield -

Catastrophic mistake. Proof of sexual misconduct accumulated by the deep state makes it possible to dictate the votes &c. of Congress, decisions of judges and administrators, &c.

Without a one-time blanket amnesty - however morally revolting - deep state control of government will endure. If you want to end its control of the ship of state, you must remove its nuclear option : blackmail (threat of exposure/prosecution/bankruptcy/family impoverishment/dying in prison).

No way around this.

Ann on February 14, 2017 , · at 9:31 pm UTC
the whole Military Intelligence is rife with pedophilia and sodomy – I can't imagine how Flynn avoided it – the whole top ranking guys are involved – watch video interview of Kay Griggs –

Flynn was probably blackmailed

Greg Schofield on February 15, 2017 , · at 12:33 am UTC
Good point, but there are many types of amnesty. The first is the amnesty of tolerance, consenting adult sex mutual or professional, no matter how distasteful or strange, whether adulterous or not, should be considered private and off the table, but never kiddy-fiddling (actual rather than fictitious, in the real that is). Publication of tolerated sexual matters should be slammed, tolerance does not mean condoning, tolerance is what it says tolerating what is not condoned.

That is an amnesty that every civilised nation follows I can't see why the US should not adopt it as it use to be the case. In Australia we tolerate a lot of things, ex prime minister Bob Hawke was a notorious womaniser a faithless husband, and his antics were a national laugh.

I also agree blackmail is one of the main weapons and sexuality is one of its mainstays. Its an puritanical extension of identity politics, I believe toleration is the amnesty. I think your logic and argument is correct.

Look at the other way, a corrupt person, rips off this person and that, they are a public menace. A corrupt judge that cheats on taxes, runs fictions companies, uses legal fictions to launder wealth is defrauding the public as a whole - it is a worse crime. By extension accepting bribes, favours, preferential treatment, corporate support is to provide inequality before the law, negate the whole purpose of the judiciary and again is a worse crime than tax fraud - it is at best a serious conflict of interest (serious enough for removal), but is usually the accepted method of tilting the judicial system which is, with evidence, criminal. and all the evidence has to be is that judge has accepted favours and their judgements demonstrate his gratitude to the social network that provided the favour.

Against this a man whose marriage is happy, but sexually disaster, visits prostitutes or keeps a mistress, or has fathered a child, is as is nothing - if only it was tolerated whilst terrible crimes are tolerated instead. Flint's water poisoning is not a scandal it is a criminal conspiracy that stemmed from a criminal neglect. Banks that seize homes that they purposefully overvalued and over-lent of which we have a mountain of documents to show this was done purposefully - the banks are the ones that should suffer, not those desperate to own a house and were sent to them, by Real Estate agents and developer.

A sea change in attitude, on really simple stuff, has a disproportional effect. And today that is actually easier to achieve than ever before. My advice is to go to the local churches and argue that their fixation on sex is producing untold evils in the world and their moral righteousness is being misdirected. A direct confrontation on theological grounds etc.,

Sorry for the rant your point has been taken on board well and truly.

Talks-to-Cats on February 15, 2017 , · at 2:26 am UTC
The first is the amnesty of tolerance, consenting adult sex mutual or professional, no matter how distasteful or strange, whether adulterous or not, should be considered private and off the table, but never kiddy-fiddling (actual rather than fictitious, in the real that is).

@Greg -

No rant at all. IMO this is the real elephant in the political livingroom. People are coming to understand who the orcs are, how they operate and what their objective is. They can be mentioned now without everything melting down in a storm of terror.

But that they have the whole US government, industry and military (pardon the expression) "by the balls" is not known so well. Nor is it appreciated that no necessary change can be expected to gain political traction so long as this iron control continues.

The trial balloon figure of 30% compromised is probably a gross underestimate. And we are not talking about marital infidelities with secretaries or "escorts" but romping with adolescents (both sexes but apparently boys are their favorites -
http://educate-yourself.org/tg/franklincoverupexcerptwashtimesphoto.shtml
Franklin/Boys Town scandal, Sandusky/Penn State, pizzagate, et al.)

This may not be the place for it but, if not, where ? The "Age of Consent" to sexual relations in the early US varied, but was often put at 9 years of age (this when puberty occurred around age 17-18). I see this as no evidence of moral turpitude, but of hard-nosed realism. It was human nature (as you have the moral decency to note) that people were going to get up to stuff like that, and there was no need to make bigger issue of it than it was. If it stirred popular outrage, the perpetrator could expect to be lynched or, where I grew up, shot "in a tragic accident" during hunting season when he was in the woods. People took care of their own problems. And gravely mistrusted the judicial system where the ability of wealth and connections (business relationships and funny handshakes) all but guaranteed impunity.

We now take it for granted (see Goebbels on the power of simple repetition to create "public opinion") that sex between an adolescent and an adult is the single worst moral outrage imaginable. In reality (I came to understand it inside the criminal justice system during 20+ years of working in it), making this a criminal offense, with the age of consent raised to 18 (completely ridiculous with puberty now happening in elementary school and given the "sexualization" of children by the orc media) was a strategic coup by the prison-industrial complex. By legally re-defining this as RAPE (!) and the perpetrator as a RAPIST (!) - well, repeat this often enough in court with an adolescent well coached by the childrens' services caseworker to see herself as a VICTIM who was GROOMED by him (when the actual dynamics of the situation were often the other way around), and a conviction was a prosecutor's easiest victory in an average month. Not to mention that the threat of sentence piling (pioneered during the Nixon years - prosecuting the same offense as as many separate crimes as possible, with sentences running consecutively) all but guaranteed "plea bargains" without even the expense or inconvenience of a trial.

Prisons love(d) this, as (except for homosexual pederasts) "sex offenders" ( almost 100% White for some strange reason ) are the most easily managed demographic of all. If a state prison (or private one) could house 2,500 of them, it could operate with a staff of, probably,10 guards per 8-hour shift.

Now, with the MSM and academia having turned sex with adolescents into the new "forbidden fruit," the appeal of it to the idle imaginations of the susceptible is multiplied. The whole thing stinks to high heaven of rank hypocrisy, human exploitation and lives ruined by a system that exploits human frailties as profit & control opportunities.

Now I am ranting, so will stop here. Noting that there is a LOT more that needs to be said on this.

[Jan 24, 2017] Precedents for Pizzagate>

Jan 24, 2017 | www.unz.com

In 2006, the DHS's Department of Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) ran an internationally cooperative investigation into the purchase of subscriptions of child pornography online. Code-named Project Flicker, the investigation uncovered the identities of 30,000 child porn subscribers in 132 different nations. Some 250 of these identities belonged to civilian and military employees of the U.S. Defense Department, who gave their real names and purchased the porn with government .mil email addresses-some with the highest security clearances available. In response, the Pentagon's Department of Criminal Investigative Services (DCIS) cross-referenced ICE's list with current employment roles and began a series of prosecutions.

A DCIS report from July 2010 shows that 30 of these individuals were investigated, despite uncovering a new total of 264 Defense employees and contractors who had purchased child pornography online. 13 had Top Secret security clearance. 8 had NATO Secret security clearance. 42 had Secret security clearance. 4 had Interim Secret security clearance. A total of 76 individuals had Secret security clearance or higher.

Yet, the investigations were halted entirely after only some 50 total names were investigated at all, and just 10 were prosecuted . A full 212 of the individuals on ICE's list were never even given the most cursory investigation at all. (Note: The number 5200 keeps popping up in sources covering this-for instance, see here -and I'm not sure what that number is for: American subscribers? Pentagon email addresses that weren't confirmed to have actually been used by Pentagon employees, but still may have been? I'll leave it to anyone interested enough to pursue these individual leads to see if they can figure that out and get back to us.)

In 2011, the story resurfaced when Anderson Cooper covered it with (again) Senator Chuck Grassley on CNN. After this, the story appears to have sunk straight back down into the memory hole yet again. Neither Anderson Cooper nor CNN appear to have given a follow–up in the five years since the story of the failed investigation first aired-why not? And why wasn't the first airing enough to lead to mass outrage and calls for action anyway? See here for another summary of the squashed investigation from 2014.

[Jan 24, 2017] Pizzagate by Aedon Cassiel

Notable quotes:
"... Mehrdad Amanpour ..."
"... The Sunday Times ..."
"... The Rotherham child sexual exploitation scandal first "broke" in the far-right blogosphere. The accusation they made was that these gangs were being allowed to operate undisturbed because everyone was too afraid of "appearing racist" to properly investigate them . . . and nobody listened to the far-right bloggers who were breaking this story because they were afraid of "appearing racist" if they gave any credibility to those far-right sources, too. Never mind that it seemed paranoid to rely on bloggers ..."
"... the far-right blogosphere turned out to be right. ..."
"... those people ..."
"... The Podesta Emails ..."
"... The evidence is of wildly varying levels of quality, ranging from the pareidolia of "Jesus is appearing to me in my toast" to "wait, that's actually pretty damn creepy." The mountain of claims and observations and speculations being compiled in places like Voat and Steemit are too overwhelming for any one person to hope to wade through sorting wheat from chaff, and while I don't intend to try, I will summarize some just a little bit of it here. ..."
"... While many of these claims are wild speculation over coincidences (though by no means all of them are), at some point I think a bunch of weird coincidences involving pedophilia and kids becomes sort of damning in and of itself. In one email , Podesta is among those being invited to a farm and the host says, "Bonnie will be Uber Service to transport Ruby, Emerson, and Maeve Luzzatto (11, 9, and almost 7) so you'll have some further entertainment, and they will be in [the] pool for sure ." ..."
"... Could that have an innocent explanation? Sure, maybe. But inviting a group of adult men to a gathering and calling young children "further entertainment" while listing their ages is ..."
"... All the Children ..."
"... Here are just a few of the more "institutional" coincidences involved in the story: one of the men on the small list of people found "liking" photos like this one on these individuals' Instagram accounts is Arun Rao , the U.S. Attorney Chief, charged with prosecuting cases of child pornography. ..."
"... Besta Pizza, the business whose logo so closely resembled the "little boy lover" logo, is owned by Andrew Kline , who was one of four attorneys in the Human Trafficking Prosecution Unit of the Department of Justice. Isn't it just a little ..."
"... The disturbing bit is that the photo uses the tag "#chickenlovers," and "chicken lover" is in fact ..."
"... Chicken Hawk ..."
"... Furthermore, Tony Podesta's favorite ..."
"... In addition to Jeffrey Epstein, the Podesta brothers are also friends with convicted sex offender Clement Freud as well as convicted serial child molester Dennis Hastert . ..."
"... New York Times ..."
"... And we do know that this has happened before. ..."
"... The Franklin Scandal: A Story of Powerbrokers, Child Abuse & Betrayal ..."
"... how we should respond to the possibility. ..."
Dec 02, 2016 | www.unz.com

Man Motivated by 'Pizzagate' Conspiracy Theory Arrested in Washington Gunfire
Eric Lipton, The New York Times, December 5th, 2016

Beginning in 1997, in an English town of more than 100,000 people, eight Pakistani men stood at the core of a group involving as many as three hundred suspects who abused, gang-raped, pimped and trafficked, by the most conservative estimate, well over a thousand of the town's young girls for years.

The police were eventually accused of not just turning a blind eye, but of participating in the abuse - even supplying the Pakistani gangs with drugs and tipping them off when they heard of colleagues searching for children they knew to be in the gangs' possession.

Others were afraid of investigating the gangs or calling attention to their behavior because it would have been politically incorrect to accuse the town's ethnic community of such a rampant and heinous crime - in the words of one English writer, " Fears of appearing racist trumped fears of more children being abused ."

But when this story first broke, guess where it appeared?

Here's how a blogger writing under the name Mehrdad Amanpour tells the story of how the story first started reaching people:

Some years ago, a friend sent me a shocking article. It said hundreds of British girls were being systematically gang-raped by Muslim gangs. It claimed this was being covered-up.

I've never had time for conspiracy theories, especially when they look as hateful as those in the article. So I checked the links and sources in the piece. I found an American racist-far-right website and from there, saw the original source was a similarly unpleasant website in the UK.

I did a brief search for corroboration from reputable mainstream sources. I found none. So I wrote a curt reply to my friend: "I'd appreciate it if you didn't send me made-up crap from neo–Nazi websites."

Some months later, I read the seminal exposé of the (mainly) ethnic-Pakistani grooming gang phenomenon by Andrew Norfolk in The Sunday Times .

I was stunned and horrified - not just that these vile crimes were indeed happening and endemic, but that they really were being ignored and "covered-up" by public authorities and the mainstream media.

The Rotherham child sexual exploitation scandal first "broke" in the far-right blogosphere. The accusation they made was that these gangs were being allowed to operate undisturbed because everyone was too afraid of "appearing racist" to properly investigate them . . . and nobody listened to the far-right bloggers who were breaking this story because they were afraid of "appearing racist" if they gave any credibility to those far-right sources, too. Never mind that it seemed paranoid to rely on bloggers to report truths like these when the allegations were so wide-reaching, involving a literal conspiracy within the police force.

And yet, years after no one was willing to take them seriously, the far-right blogosphere turned out to be right.

Well over a thousand (mostly) white young girls were being abused by (mostly) Pakistani gangs.

And the authorities were covering it up.

We are now, once again, in the stage of an evolving scandal that Mehrdad Amanpour described his experience with above. Just to be clear, I'm not going to commit myself to the idea that this is going to be as huge as Rotherham was. We should be careful: we don't know what would or wouldn't be confirmed with a proper investigation. The question here is not whether we've gotten to the bottom of this online. The question is whether there is enough here to justify thinking there should be a proper investigation.

And the parallel with Rotherham is that the relatively small number of people asking for that are mostly the loathsome kinds of people who run "racist far-right websites." So, since the claims are inherently conspiratorial, and the mainstream doesn't want to be associated with those people who are talking about it, it is once again all too easy to just dismiss the claims out of hand as paranoia run wild.

Again, the evolution of the Rotherham child sexual exploitation scandal was an extremely painful lesson that the mainstream can be wrong and the "paranoid racist far-right" can be right. And that lesson was far too expensive to simply let go to waste.

The name of this scandal is Pizzagate.

It gets the name for two reasons: first, because at the center of the scandal are high-level Washington insiders who own a handful of businesses in the DC area, including a couple pizzerias (Comet Ping Pong and Besta Pizza), who have fallen under suspicion for involvement in a child sex abuse ring. Second, because the first questions arose in peoples' minds as a result of some very bizarre emails revealed by Wikileaks in The Podesta Emails that, quite simply, just sound strange (and usually involve weird references to pizza). One of the strangest emails involves Joe Podesta being asked this question: "The realtor found a handkerchief (I think it has a map that seems pizza-related). Is it yours?"

The evidence is of wildly varying levels of quality, ranging from the pareidolia of "Jesus is appearing to me in my toast" to "wait, that's actually pretty damn creepy." The mountain of claims and observations and speculations being compiled in places like Voat and Steemit are too overwhelming for any one person to hope to wade through sorting wheat from chaff, and while I don't intend to try, I will summarize some just a little bit of it here.

While many of these claims are wild speculation over coincidences (though by no means all of them are), at some point I think a bunch of weird coincidences involving pedophilia and kids becomes sort of damning in and of itself. In one email , Podesta is among those being invited to a farm and the host says, "Bonnie will be Uber Service to transport Ruby, Emerson, and Maeve Luzzatto (11, 9, and almost 7) so you'll have some further entertainment, and they will be in [the] pool for sure ."

Could that have an innocent explanation? Sure, maybe. But inviting a group of adult men to a gathering and calling young children "further entertainment" while listing their ages is weird , whether it ends up having an explanation or not.

If I was getting messages that listed the ages of young children that would be in a pool

And it turned out that the logo for my business contained a symbol strikingly close to the "little boy lover" logo used by pedophiles to signify that their interest is in young boys rather than girls . . .

And the bands that showed up at my restaurant had albums called All the Children with images on the cover of a child putting phallic-shaped objects into his mouth . . .

. . . and were found making creepy jokes about pedophilia (in reference to Jared Fogle: " we all have our preferences . . . ") . . . and there were instagram photos coming out of kids ("jokingly?") taped to the tables in my restaurant . . .

. . . frankly, I would start asking questions about myself.

Here are just a few of the more "institutional" coincidences involved in the story: one of the men on the small list of people found "liking" photos like this one on these individuals' Instagram accounts is Arun Rao , the U.S. Attorney Chief, charged with prosecuting cases of child pornography.

Besta Pizza, the business whose logo so closely resembled the "little boy lover" logo, is owned by Andrew Kline , who was one of four attorneys in the Human Trafficking Prosecution Unit of the Department of Justice. Isn't it just a little unusual that someone that high up in a human trafficking division would fail to notice the symbolism?

For yet another coincidence, Lauren Silsby-Gayler is the former director of The New Life Children's Refuge in Haiti. It is a matter of public record that she was caught, prosecuted, and sent to jail while in that role for trying to abduct dozens of children, most of whom had homes and families. The main lawyer paid to represent Silsby-Gayler, "President of the Sephardic Jewish community in the Dominican Republic," was himself suspected of involvement in human trafficking.

When the Clintons gained influence in the region, one of their first acts was to work to get Silsby-Gayler off the hook . Among the Podesta Wikileaks are State Department emails discussing their case. Meanwhile, she now works on the executive board of AlertSense . . . which collaborates with IPAWS to send out nation-wide Amber Alerts.

While some of the supposed "codewords" people have claimed to have identified in Pizzagate appear to be made up, there is at least one unambiguous instance: here is an Instagrammed photo posted by James Alefantis, the owner of Comet Ping Pong that appears innocent enough: a man carrying a young child with a beaded necklace draped around both of their necks.

The disturbing bit is that the photo uses the tag "#chickenlovers," and "chicken lover" is in fact an established term to refer to a pedophile - someone who loves "chicken," which is also unambiguously an established term to refer to underage children (you can see this in the gay slang dictionary subset of the Online Dictionary of Playground Slang ).

Complain all you want about the "speculative" and "paranoid" online discussions of Pizzagate, but when you have clearer-cut cases like this one where James Alefantis absolutely, unquestionably did in fact post a photo of a man holding an infant and the one and only hashtag he used for the photo involved a term that unquestionably is a reference to pedophilia, in a context where it is clear that there is nothing else here that "chicken" could possibly have been referring to, the likelihood that more speculative claims might have truth to them is increased.

There is a 1994 documentary expose on NAMBLA (the North American Man/Boy Love Association) called Chicken Hawk . Here is yet another reference from a watchdog group from 2006, proving that this one existed well before Pizzagate surfaced. Another confirmed fact dug up by the paranoid right-wing conspiracy nuts on the Internet?

So here are a few more things we do know. We know that Bill Clinton has taken dozens of international flights on a plane colloquially known as the " Lolita Express " with Jeffrey Epstein, a man who spent 13 months in jail after being convicted of soliciting a 13-year-old prostitute . We know that Hillary Clinton's staff knew that Anthony Weiner was sexting underage girls all the way back in 2011 - and covered it up. Guess whose laptop revealed evidence that Hillary Clinton went on flights on Jeffrey Epstein's " Lolita Express " along with Bill? That's right: Anthony Weiner's.

Now do you understand why the mainstream media was so eager to spin these emails as just a "distraction" during the election?

The staff that ignored Weiner's sexting of young children included John Podesta himself, whose brother Tony is one of the very men at the center of Pizzagate. Tony Podesta has rather warped tastes in art. For instance, he owns a bronze statue of a decapitated man in a contorted position identical to a well-known photograph of one of serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer's victims:

(See here for the disturbing photo of the real victim.)

The same news story that features the image above also mentions the fact that John Podesta's bedroom contains multiple images from a photographer "known for documentary-style pictures of naked teenagers in their parents' suburban homes.")

Furthermore, Tony Podesta's favorite artist is Biljana Djurdjevic, whose art heavily features images of children in BDSM-esque positions in large showers. Here's one with a row of young girls in a shower with their hands behind their backs in a position that suggests bondage:

Here's one with a young boy in a shower tied up in the air with his hands over his head:

In addition to Jeffrey Epstein, the Podesta brothers are also friends with convicted sex offender Clement Freud as well as convicted serial child molester Dennis Hastert .

We do know that the New York Times , which is now dismissing Pizzagate in its entirety as a hoax, is run by Mark Thompson - who was credibly accused a few years back of lying to help cover up a scandal involving another high-profile public figure involved in child sex abuse, Jimmy Savile , during his time as head of the BBC .

And we do know that this has happened before.

Lawrence King , the leader of the Black Republican Caucus, who sang the national anthem at the Republican convention in 1984, was accused by multiple claimed victims of trafficking and abusing boys out of the Boys Town charity for years. You can hear the chilling testimony from three people who claim to have been victimized by King in a documentary produced shortly after the events transpired.

You can hear the FBI, even after they received extensive testimony from victims, explain in their own words that they weren't going to prosecute King because if anything were wrong with him, he would have been prosecuted by a lower authority already. Eventually, King was found "O. J. guilty" of abusing Paul Bonacci - convicted in civil court, acquitted in criminal court.

The best written source for information about the depths of corruption and cover-up involved in this scandal is Nick Bryant's The Franklin Scandal: A Story of Powerbrokers, Child Abuse & Betrayal (if you can't find a free copy on your own, contact me through my website, www.zombiemeditations.com and I tell you where to find it).

Could all of this turn out to be nothing?

Of course it could.

But that's not the question here. The question is how we should respond to the possibility.

Do we take the possibility seriously? History clearly indicates that we should. Even if it did turn out to be nothing at all, I would still be more proud to belong to a community willing to take the possibility seriously and call for investigation than I would to belong to a community that dismissed the possibility far too hastily and luckily turned out to be right - even as it did this and turned out to be wrong in so many cases like Rotherham before.

The real horror here would be to live in a society that responded as Reddit has - by shutting down the whole conversation entirely, banning r/pizzagate even while keeping subreddits like r/pedofriends, "a place for (non-offending) pedophiles and allies to make friends with each other!" alive.

Over on his blog, Scott Adams asks us to keep in mind cases where confirmation bias did lead to false allegations of institutional pedophilia, to caution against excessive confidence. (He hastens to add: "I want to be totally clear here that I'm not saying Pizzagate is false. I see the mountain of evidence too. And collectively it feels totally persuasive to me. It might even be true. I'm not debating the underlying truth of it. That part I don't know.")

But which is worse? If all the evidence coming out of Pizzagate is entirely false, what have we lost by spending time on it? On the other hand, if even five percent of the allegations that have been made surrounding the topic are true, what have we lost by ignoring them? Which is worse: spending too much time pursuing and thoroughly vetting false leads, or looking the other way while any amount of child abuse goes on?

According to the FBI's National Crime Information Center (NCIC) database, nearly 470,000 children disappear in the United States alone each year. This number is dubious for a number of reasons. It looks like some number of runaways end up in the NCIC count, and to make matters worse, repeat offenders can make it into the data multiple times. So that would suggest that the real number must be lower than this tally; but on the other hand, we also know that many missing children are never reported in the first place, so it's possible that that could boost the number back up. The bottom line, however, seems to be that there is no reliable way to determine how many total children are actually missing in the U.S.

Either way, though, even if correcting for these errors took out 90% of the disappearances in the NCIC database, and there were no unreported disappearances to account for at all, I think even the resulting 50,000 per year would still be enough to call the problem systematic and justify suspicion that these disappearances could well involve organized efforts-given that we already know of so many pedophile rings in so many powerful institutions.

In 2013, Canada busted a ring involving more than 300 adults , who had teachers, doctors, and nurses heavily represented among them. A pedophile ring has just been identified in the highest levels of UK football (Americans know the sport as soccer). Norwegian police also just uncovered a ring of 50 organized pedophiles mostly working in the tech sector , once again including elected officials, teachers, and lawyers. The Vatican scandals can practically go without mention - institutional involvement in child sex exploitation is nearly an a priori given.

And the children that are being raped and murdered in the photos passed around by these child porn rings are coming from somewhere . And when figures like politicians, teachers, and lawyers are involved in the rings, it's hardly inconceivable that they could be involved in disappearances.

Have we identified one here?

Only time will tell. But we deserve to be paid attention. We deserve to have the matter taken (Reprinted from Counter-Currents Publishing by permission of author or representative)

[Apr 11, 2015] Judge orders Prince Andrew sex allegations struck from court record

Notable quotes:
"... Virginia Roberts's accusations about Andrew ordered to be struck from the record as judge denied her attempt to join a lawsuit against Jeffrey Epstein Allegations that a 17-year-old was forced to have sex with Britain's Prince Andrew , which prompted a crisis at Buckingham Palace earlier this year, have been removed from a federal court case by a judge in the US. ..."
Apr 07, 2015 | The Guardian
Virginia Roberts's accusations about Andrew ordered to be struck from the record as judge denied her attempt to join a lawsuit against Jeffrey Epstein

Allegations that a 17-year-old was forced to have sex with Britain's Prince Andrew, which prompted a crisis at Buckingham Palace earlier this year, have been removed from a federal court case by a judge in the US.

Judge Kenneth Marra ordered Virginia Roberts's accusations about Andrew, the Duke of York, to be struck from the record and denied her attempt to join a lawsuit against Jeffrey Epstein, a friend of the prince and a convicted sex offender.

"At this juncture in the proceedings, these lurid details are unnecessary," Marra wrote in his order, issued at the US district court in southern Florida on Tuesday morning. "These unnecessary details shall be stricken."

Andrew and Buckingham Palace vehemently deny Roberts's allegations.

Marra made no ruling or statement about the veracity of Roberts's allegations. He said the "factual details regarding with whom and where" she had sex were "immaterial and impertinent" to her argument that she should be allowed to join the lawsuit.

However, Marra noted that Roberts may yet appear as a witness when the long-running case finally goes to trial.

Brad Edwards, an attorney for Roberts, said in a statement that her legal team "absolutely respect" the judge's ruling, which had recognised Roberts's right to take part in the case as a witness. Roberts said: "I'm happy to get to participate in this important case."

A Buckingham Palace official said the Duke had been informed of the Florida court's ruling and was spending this week in private, before resuming his schedule of public engagements next week.
His spokesman declined to comment further but referred back to repeated palace denials of Roberts claims, including a 3 January statement that "it is emphatically denied that the Duke of York had any form of sexual contact or relationship with Virginia Roberts. Any claim to the contrary is false and without foundation."

Five court filings in the Florida case, including a document filed on December 30 last year in which Andrew was first accused, were immediately sealed from the public.

The filing at that time placed Andrew under intense pressure, forcing him to return to his home at Windsor from Verbier in Switzerland where he was on a skiing holiday with a party including his daughter Princess Beatrice.

The duke only resumed public engagements at the World Economic Forum in Davos in late January where he was pursued by reporters and used a short speech "to reiterate and to reaffirm" the existing emphatic Buckingham Palace denials of what courtiers described as "lurid and deeply personal" claims.

Buckingham Palace broke with convention to directly address the sex claims, and Andrew approved a statement which vehemently denied "any form of sexual contact or relationship with Virginia Roberts". It continued: "The allegations made are false and without any foundation."

Roberts, who is referred to in the case only as Jane Doe 3, and a fourth woman were seeking to join two other alleged victims of Epstein in suing the US government over a plea deal that federal prosecutors struck with the hedge fund tycoon in 2008.

Under the plea agreement, Epstein pleaded guilty to soliciting prostitution from an underage girl. He received an 18-month jail sentence and served 13 months before being released. He remains a registered sex offender in Florida and the US Virgin Islands, where he lives on a private island.

The agreement was criticised as being extraordinarily lenient by attorneys for a series of women who allege that Epstein sexually abused them when they were under the age of consent. The FBI, which took over the investigation into Epstein, said it had identified dozens of potential victims.

Roberts has for years alleged that she travelled around the world with Epstein as his "sex slave" and was made to have sex with some of his influential associates, including prominent politicians and royalty.

Marra ruled on Tuesday that the application by Roberts and Jane Doe 4 should be denied, as it was "entirely unnecessary" for the pair to be added as plaintiffs in the lawsuit. The women suing Epstein allege that the government's plea deal violated their rights as victims.

Describing Roberts's allegations as "duplicative" of the existing lawsuit, the judge said the lawsuit already sought to overturn Epstein's plea agreement on behalf of all "other similarly-situated victims".

Marra noted in his order that US law empowers judges to "strike from a pleading an insufficient defense or any redundant, immaterial, impertinent, or scandalous matter."

Allegations that Roberts was also made to have sex with Alan Dershowitz, a Harvard law professor and another friend of Epstein, were also struck from the case by Marra. The judge said a legal attempt by Dershowitz to intervene in the case was now unnecessary.

In recent weeks the duke has carried out more engagements, including opening the Yorkshire Air Ambulance (YAA) Air Response Unit prior to Easter and before that leading a "Pitch@Palace" event, a Dragons Den-style scheme to match investors with entrepreneurs using technology in the creative industries.

[July 30, 2003] Official Culture in America: A Natural State of Psychopathy? by Laura Knight-Jadczyk

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July 30, 2003: KAH - The subject of the extremely narrow point of view of most Americans as opposed to the majority of other peoples in the world came up in a conversation the other day. The people having the conversation were, as it happens, mostly American. One of them commented that Americans had been "programmed" to their point of view by mass media propaganda for a very long time and that it was simply a very normal part of American life and basically, always had been. She concluded, "Whoever denies it is either ignorant or has an agenda."

That may be so. It may be true that the "pied pipers" of denial have an agenda. But what, then, does one say or do about the ignorance of the vast majority of Americans? Why and how is it that the trap of Fascism is closing on them before their very eyes and no matter how many voices - the number is increasing every day - are raised to point out this danger, they simply do not seem to get it?

The conversation continued with a comment from another individual suggesting that one must take into account how effective the "official culture" actually is in the US. It isn't just a question of ignorance, but a question of the long-term thoroughness of the propagandizing that began in the early days of the last century. It was proposed that this propaganda is so complete that not only are most people in the US ignorant of what is taking place on the US political scene, and in the world as a direct result of US policy, they are ignorant of the fact that they are ignorant. They have been inculcated with the view that their view is the only "right" one" and, consequently, they really "don't know any better". In short: "What do you do if you don't know that you don't know something?"

Well, the thing is, at some point in time, no matter how thorough the programming has been, most people will eventually end up coming across some bit or piece of information that isn't going to quite "jibe" with the "official culture;" it isn't going to "fit" in with their view of reality, with what they have been taught, and it is usually just a little bit uncomfortable when this happens. Or it ought to be.

My question is, why is complete denial, even aggressive behavior in some instances, the reaction of some when the objective facts of reality are pointed out to them, while there are others who react with an increased sense of curiosity, an increased desire for additional information?

Why do some shun knowledge and others crave it?

Why do some resist the programming, and others welcome it?

It is as though with some people - those who most avidly embrace the "we are right" view - have minds that are closed from the very get-go, and they are entirely incapable of opening them, even just a crack. There is no curiosity in them. There are no questions in their minds. There are no "what ifs?" or "maybes".

It seems to me that the propaganda of the Official Culture then, while quite effective, may not be the sole reason why so many Americans are apathetic when it comes to what their government is doing, both in the US and abroad. It seems as though there may be some distinct differences in human beings at a very basic level that needs to be considered here.

In my opinion, (KAH), all of us who were raised in the US have been duped via this Official Culture mind control imposed through the educational system and the mass media. But there are some of us who seem to have the ability to question, to wonder, to open our minds to other possibilities - even if they seem far-fetched. And invariably, this opening of the mind to other views has been enriching and rewarding on many levels, not the least of which is a humanitarian view of all peoples and cultures.

Is being able to open your mind and ask questions just a matter of "courage?" Is a closed mind simply evidence of being a coward? Is resistance to the "official culture" a consequence of a fundamental "rebellious nature" and are those who "go along with the crowd" better "team players," even if the team is on the moral low-road?

Is the difference one that exists between people who are willing to face the "terror of the situation" and those who simply cannot live in the state of tension produced by having to make moral decisions themselves?

Or, is there something deeper here? If so, what is it? And whatever it is, why is it so "active" in the present day and time? What is the "fog" that surrounds America and the minds of its people?

In the past, I have encountered many people who I considered to be open-minded, but ultimately discovered that they are not so when they absolutely refuse to even admit the possibility of what is so obvious to so many intelligent and compassionate people. For example, the obvious psychopathy of Bush and other world leaders, certainly reveals to us that the "terror of the situation" is manifesting on quite a grander scale than any of us might have dreamed possible a few years ago. There it is. Clues and signs everywhere. It's as plain as the nose on your face. But most Americans would rather cut off that nose with the result that they spite the face.

It is terrifying enough when one realizes that the Bush Reich and other elite groups around the globe are wreaking havoc on the planet without regard for life in any form, apart from their own, but when we also have to face the fact that there are so many people out there, that - even when faced with the certain facts of this global tinder- box - either cannot see it or WILL not see it, well, that makes this situation just a little bit more terrifying.

Again, we return to the problem: what is WRONG with Americans?

We already know that the "Land of the Free" is gone, but what about the "Home of the Brave?" It never takes courage to support a bully - but it takes a LOT of courage to stand up against one. Has America lost that courage that gave them the intestinal fortitude to stand up to the most mighty military power in the world of the time - England - to declare their independence from bullies and to stand for what was right? What happened to "Give me liberty or give me death?" Because surely America has chosen death in giving up their liberty!

When I was growing up in the West, my brothers and I were subjected to very intense "racist attitudes" from our step-parents. We lived in a small farming-ranching community where that sort of belief system is generally passed on from one generation to the next and nobody ever really questions it.

However, at a very early age, I instinctively rebelled against this view of the world. It seems that I had a sort of natural, intrinsic love, respect and a fascination for other cultures and peoples. Of course, it drove my step-parents CRAZY. There was a lot of tension between us because of this.

My love for and curiosity about other cultures led me to travel extensively as I grew up. I was curious; I wanted to explore; I wanted to KNOW. When I eventually married outside my own culture, well, I had crossed the line and all contact with my family had to be terminated. The price they were willing to pay for their racist beliefs was high - in my opinion - moreso for them than for me, though certainly this rejection was painful.

My point is, I resisted this racist program intensely. It was all around me, in the town, the schools, the church we attended. But I wanted no part of it. It seems that it went against my very nature. But for others, it seemed very "natural" to "fall for" this cultural programming - to be "comfortable" within a milieu that excluded nearly everyone else as human beings.

Is it just "ignorance?" Are Americans just ignorant and ignorant of their own ignorance? Is this ignorance strictly due to "official culture programming" - programming that seems to be designed to encourage ignorance?

Again it seems as though there may be two different types of people and two different ways to deal with the question of one's own ignorance.

Some individuals, when faced with certain facts about their own ignorance, deny vehemently that they ARE ignorant and resort to platitudes and cliches even including that old saw about the difference between "book learning" and "common sense." Others, when confronted with their own ignorance, immediately set about rectifying it no matter how painful it might be.

When I first moved abroad at the age of 21, I quickly realized that I was, like most Americans, abysmally ignorant with regard to politics. I discovered - to my great dismay - that in my host country, most of the average people around me - shopkeepers, hairdressers, taxi-drivers - knew more about what was going on in the USA and the rest of the world than I did; a LOT more! I had no IDEA of the things that were going on that were common knowledge to other peoples in the world. And here, it wasn't simply a matter of having a different opinion than others. It was a matter of an almost complete lack of INFORMATION within the very country that promotes democracy as the rule of an "informed citizenry." I realized with striking clarity exactly how ignorant I was at that point, and I admitted it to myself. Further, I was embarrassed for myself and other Americans who were seen (rightly so) as equally ignorant and "in the dark" politically and culturally speaking. BUT, due to this embarrassment and realization of the extraordinary extent of my ignorance, I determined to do something about it.

But there are so many Americans who - when faced with similar situations, faced with their own ignorance - deny it aggressively. And generally, the "last word" for them is: "Oh, he/she doesn't know what the hell they are talking about! They're 'foreigners'." And that's the key: "foreigners."

"Foreigners" can't possibly know anything because they aren't American. And Americans, by default of having the most bombs on the planet, always "know" what's up. Or, at the very least, their leaders do and we just don't have to think about such things. That's what we elect our leaders for, isn't it? So they will handle all that boring and tedious political stuff and leave us alone to watch "Survivor" and the Super Bowl and wash our new SUV so that the Joneses can be green with envy!

And they leave it at that. It's the preferred way to handle all such questions. Forget the entire issue of an "informed citizenry" and any possible outrage that citizens of the US are not only NOT informed, they are being deliberately DIS-informed!

They don't even realize that "Survivor" is programming them to the very attitudes that are being displayed by their leaders - normalizing it, so to say - and at the present moment these attitude are being manifested in their own lives in a direct and terrifying way. For many in the US, their future is that there won't be any more Super Bowls, and the SUV certainly doesn't get enough gas mileage to get them far enough away from the terror that will confront them when they are "voted off the island" in the global game of "Survivor."

Why does this condition exist? Why are so many people so susceptible to the "official culture" and the mass media propaganda? Why are so many people willing slaves to it? And why do some others - once the questions have been raised - begin to seek the knowledge that reveals the man behind the curtain?

Perhaps it is more than simply a matter of very clever and intense programming. Perhaps it is also a matter of the nature of a person?

LKJ: In recent times, I have considered many ideas in an attempt to answer this question. The members of the Quantum Future School have been engaged in studying psychopathy and pseudo-psychopathy for about two years now. This has certainly prepared most of us to be able to see the man behind the curtain, or, in this case, behind the "mask of sanity." But it still doesn't answer the question as to why psychopathic behavior seems to be so widespread in the US. (That is not to say that it doesn't exist everywhere - that's a given.)

Linda Mealey of the Department of Psychology at the College of St. Benedict in St. Joseph, Minnesota, has recently proposed certain ideas in her paper: The Sociobiology of Sociopathy: An Integrated Evolutionary Model. These ideas address the increase in psychopathy in American culture by suggesting that in a competitive society - capitalism, for example - psychopathy is adaptive and likely to increase. She writes:

I have thus far argued that some individuals seem to have a genotype that disposes them to [psychopathy].

[Psychopathy describes] frequency-dependent, genetically based, individual differences in employment of life strategies. [Psychopaths] always appear in every culture, no matter what the socio-cultural conditions. [...]

Competition increases the use of antisocial and Machiavellian strategies and can counteract pro-social behavior

Some cultures encourage competitiveness more than others and these differences in social values vary both temporally and cross-culturally. [...] Across both dimensions, high levels of competitiveness are associated with high crime rates and Machiavellianism.

High populaton density, an indirect form of competition, is also associated with reduced pro-social behavior and increased anti-social behavior. [...] [Mealey, op. cit.]

The conclusion is that the American way of life has optimized the survival of psychopaths with the consequence that it is an adaptive "life strategy" that is extremely successful in American society, and thus has increased in the population in strictly genetic terms. What is more, as a consequence of a society that is adaptive for psychopathy, many individuals who are NOT genetic psychopaths have similarly adapted, becoming "effective" psychopaths, or "secondary sociopaths."

(Many experts differentiate between primary and secondary sociopaths. The first is a sociopath because they have the "genes" and the second is more or less "created" by their environment of victimization. Other experts refer to these two categories as "psychopaths" for the genetic variety and "sociopaths" for the reactive variety. We prefer this latter distinction.)

Of course, because they are not intellectually handicapped, these individuals [psychopaths] will progress normally in terms of cognitive development and will acquire a theory of mind. Their theories, however, will be formulated purely in instrumental terms [what can claiming this or that GET for me?], without access to the empathic understanding that most of us rely on so much of the time.

They may become excellent predictors of others' behavior, unhandicapped by the "intrusiveness" of emotion, acting, as do professional gamblers, solely on nomothetic laws and actuarial data rather than on hunches and feelings.

In determining how to "play" in the social encounters of everyday life, they will use a pure cost-benefit approach based on immediate personal outcomes, with no "accounting" for the emotional reactions of the others with whom they are dealing.

Without any real love to "commit" them to cooperation, without any anxiety to prevent fear of "defection," without guilt to inspire repentance, they are free to continually play for the short-term benefit.

At the same time, because changes in gene frequencies in the population would not be able to keep pace with the fast-changing parameters of social interactions, an additional fluctuating proportion of sociopathy should result because, in a society of [psychopathy], the environmental circumstances make an antisocial strategy of life more profitable than a pro-social one. [Mealey]

In other words, in a world of psychopaths, those who are not genetic psychopaths, are induced to behave like psychopaths simply to survive. When the rules are set up to make a society "adaptive" to psychopathy, it makes psychopaths of everyone.

Now, do not be fooled by the word "psychopath." Many individuals equate this term with mass murderers or "foaming at the mouth" madmen. By any name, this dangerous personality disorder presents three unsettling realities: Its prevalence seems to be increasing, it is far more common than previously thought, and there is no cure.

What makes the psychopath so frightening and dangerous is that he or she wears a completely convincing "Mask of Sanity". This may at first make such a person utterly persuasive and compellingly healthy, according to psychiatrist Harvey Cleckley. Dr. Cleckey was first to describe the key symptoms of the disorder.

Psychopaths can be very sociable, even though they are antisocial behind their "mask" in the sense that their "emotions" are completely fake. They are masters at manipulating others for their personal gain. Their charm, in fact, is legendary. "As a therapist, you run across this all of the time, where a man is mysteriously controlled by a sociopath," explains psychologist Melvin Sinder, co-author of Smart Men Bad Choices.

Psychopaths are experts at using people. They can ask anything of anyone without embarassment and because of their outgoing seducing friendliness, their use of "poor innocent me! I am such a GOOD person and I have been treated so BADLY!" the victim invariably gets sucked into giving the psychopath what they ask for - no matter how outrageous.

Psychopaths are masters at faking emotions in order to manipulate others. One psychologist reported that if you actually catch them in the act of committing a crime, or telling a lie, "they will immediately justify their actions by self pity and blaming another, by creating a heart-rending scene of faked emotional feelings." These fake emotions are only for effect, as the careful observer will note. The Psychopath considers getting their way or getting out of trouble using faked emotions as a victory over another person.

Psychopaths are incapable of feeling concern or remorse for the consequences of their actions. They can calmly rationalize their insensitive and bizarre behavior all the while attributing malice to everyone but themselves. When caught in a lie, they will manipulate others or stories to their own advantage without any fear of being found out - even if it is obvious to everyone around them that they WILL be found out.

Psychopaths cannot feel fear for themselves, much less empathy for others. Most normal people, when they are about to do something dangerous, illegal, or immoral, feel a rush of worry, nervousness, or fear. Guilt may overwhelm them and prevent them from even committing the deed.

The psychopath feels little or nothing.

As a result, the threat of punishment, even painful punishment is a laughing matter for the psychopath. They can repeat the same destructive acts without skipping a heartbeat, as well as seek thrills and dangers without regard for possible risks. This is called "hypoarousal." That is, very little - if anything - really arouses them; they are more machine-like than human-like.

The psychopath seems to be full of something akin to deep greed. They manifest this inner state in many ways. One of the most common ways is to steal something of value to their victim (valuables), or to hurt/slander the victim or something or someone the victim loves. In the psychopath's mind, this is justified because the victim crossed him, did not give him what he wanted, or rejected him (or her).

Psychopaths lie for the sake of lying. They can convey the deepest hear- felt message without meaning a word of it. They can also tell the most outrageous stories simply in order to be at the center of attention and to get what they want.

An example is told by a researcher in psychopathy: Melissa was a girl that was very attractive and very outgoing. She met with an attorney regarding getting a divorce from her husband and convinced the attorney that her husband was ruining her life.

The attorney felt sorry for her as she carried on about the abuse she had suffered. She was so convincing, that the attorney wanted to help her personally. With her seductive charisma, he became hopelessly infatuated and began to date Melissa. At a certain point, the attorney refused to take illegal and immoral actions against her estranged husband that Melissa requested.

At this point, she filed sexual harassment charges against the attorney to try to force him to do what she wanted. She didn't realize that, by doing this, she had exposed herself for what she was and there was no possibility that the attorney was going to bow to her blackmail pressures. After much pain and heart break all around, Melissa dropped the law suit and moved to another state. The attorney commented that he had never been so emotionally overwhelmed in his entire life.

Indeed, using their "emotional performances," these individuals can be truly overwhelming. Their charisma can be so inspiring - their emotion so deep and sincere-seeming - that people just want to be around them, want to help them, want to give all and support such a noble, suffering being. What is generally not seen by the victim is that they are feeding an endless internal hunger for control, excitement and ego-recognition.

The psychopath is obsessed with control even if they give the impression of being helpless. Their pretense to emotional sensitivity is really part of their control function: The higher the level of belief in the psychopath that can be induced in their victim through their dramas, the more "control" the psychopath believes they have. And in fact, this is true. They DO have control when others believe their lies. Sadly, the degree of belief, the degree of "submission" to this control via false representation, generally produces so much pain when the truth is glimpsed that the victim would prefer to continue in the lie than face the fact that they have been duped. The psychopath counts on this. It is part of their "actuarial calculations." It gives them a feeling of power.

It is all too easy to fall under the spell of the charismatic psychopath. There are many who do the psychopath's bidding without realizing that they have been subtly and cleverly controlled. They can even be manipulated to perform criminal acts, or acts of sabotage against another - innocent - person on behalf of the psychopath. Very often, when this is realized by the victim, that they have caused suffering in innocent people at the behest of a liar, again they prefer to deny this than to face up to the truth of their own perfidy and gullibility.

Psychopathic behavior seems to be on the rise because of the very nature of American capitalistic society. The great hustlers, charmers, and self-promoters in the sales fields are perfect examples of where the psychopath can thrive. The entertainment industry, the sports industry, the corporate world in a Capitalistic system, are all areas where psychopaths naturally rise to the top. Some observers believe that there is a psychological continuum between psychopaths (who tend to be professionally unsuccessful) and narcissistic entrepreneurs (who are successful), because these two groups share the highly developed skill of manipulating others for their own gain. It is now being thought that they are actually the "same" but that the "unsuccessful" psychopath is merely flawed in their calculating abilities. They are unable to recalculate based on new actuarial data. Successful Narcissists might seem to be perfectly able to add to their actuarial database and "recalculate" and shift course and develop new subroutines based on ongoing input.

In general, the successful psychopath "computes" how much they can get away with in a cost-benefit ratio of the alternatives. Among the factors that they consider as most important are money, power, and gratification of negative desires. They are not motivated by such social reinforcment as praise or future benefits. Studies have been done that show locking up a psychopath has absolutely no effect on them in terms of modifying their life strategies. In fact, in is shown to make them worse. Effectively, when locked up, psychopaths just simply learn how to be better psychopaths.

Since the psychopath bases their activities designed to get what they want on their particular "theory of mind," it is instructive to have a look at this issue. Having a "theory of mind" allows an individual to impute mental states (thoughts, perceptions, and feelings) not only to oneself, but also to other individuals. It is, in effect, a tool that helps us predict the behavior of others. The most successful individuals are those who most accurately predict what another person will do given a certain set of circumstances. In the present day, we have Game Theory which is being used to model many social problems including psychopathy.

When two individuals interact with each other, each must decide what to do without knowledge of what the other is doing. Imagine that the two players are the government and the public. In the following model, each of the players faces only a binary choice: to behave ethically either in making laws or in obeying them.

The assumption is that both players are informed about everything except the level of ethical behavior of the other. They know what it means to act ethically, and they know the consequences of being exposed as unethical.

There are three elements to the game. 1) The players, 2) the strategies available to either of them, and 3) the payoff each player receives for each possible combination of strategies.

In a legal regime, one party is obliged to compensate the other for damages under certain conditions but not under others. We are going to imagine a regime wherein the government is never liable for losses suffered by the public because of its unethical behavior - instead, the public has to pay for the damages inflicted by the government due to unethical behavior.

The way the payoffs are represented is generally in terms of money. That is, how much investment does each player have to make in ethical behavior and how much payoff does each player receive for his investment.

In this model, behaving ethically, according to standards of social values that are considered the "norm," costs each player $10.00. When law detrimental to the public is passed, it costs the public $100.00. We take it as a given that such laws will be passed unless both players behave ethically.

Next, we assume that the likelihood of a detrimental law being passed in the event that both the public and the government are behaving ethically is a one-in-ten chance.

In a legal regime in which the government is never held responsible for its unethical behavior, and if neither the government nor the public behave ethically, the government enjoys a payoff of $0. and the public is out $100 when a law detrimental to the public is passed.

If both "invest" in ethical behavior, the government has a payoff of minus $10. (the cost of behaving ethically) and the public is out minus $20. which is the $10. invested in being ethical PLUS the $10. of the one-in-ten chance of a $100. loss incurred if a detrimental law is passed.

If the government behaves ethically and the public does not, resulting in the passing of a law detrimental to the populace, the government is out the $10. invested in being ethical and the public is out $100.

If the government does not behave ethically, and the public does, the government has a payoff of $0. and the public is out $110 which is the "cost of being ethical" added to the losses suffered when the government passes detrimental laws. Modeled in a Game Theory Bi-matrix, it looks like this, with the two numbers representing the "payoff" to the people - the left number in each pair - and government - the right number in each pair.

Government

No Ethics Ethical
No Ethics -100, 0 -100, -10
Society/People
Ethical -110, 0 -20, -10

In short, in this game, the government always does better by not being ethical and we can predict the government's choice of strategy because there is a single strategy - no ethics - that is better for the government no matter what choice the public makes. This is a "strictly dominant strategy," or a strategy that is the best choice for the player no matter what choices are made by the other player.

What is even worse is the fact that the public is PENALIZED for behaving ethically. Since we know that the government, in the above regime, will never behave ethically because it is the dominant strategy, we find that ethical behavior on the part of the public actually costs MORE than unethical behavior.

In short, psychopathic behavior is actually a POSITIVE ADAPTATION in such a regime.

The public, as you see, cannot even minimize their losses by behaving ethically. It costs them $110. to be ethical, and only $100. to not be ethical.

Now, just substitute "psychopath" in the place of the government and non-psychopath in the place of the public, and you begin to understand why the psychopath will always be a psychopath. If the "payoff" is emotional pain of being hurt, or shame for being exposed, in the world of the psychopath, that consequence simply does not exist just as in the legal regime created above, the government is never responsible for unethical behavior. The psychopath lives in a world in which it is like a government that is never held responsible for behavior that is detrimental to others. It's that simple. And the form game above will tell you why psychopaths in the population, as well as in government, are able to induce the public to accept laws that are detrimental. It simply isn't worth it to be ethical. If you go along with the psychopath, you lose. If you resist the psychopath, you lose even more.

The [psychopath] is unfamiliar with the primary facts or data of what might be called personal values and is altogether incapable of understanding such matters. It is impossible for him to take even a slight interest in the tragedy or joy or the striving of humanity as presented in serious literature or art. He is also indifferent to all these matters in life itself. Beauty and ugliness, except in a very superficial sense, goodness, evil, love, horror, and humour have no actual meaning, no power to move him. He is, furthermore, lacking in the ability to see that others are moved. It is as though he were colour-blind, despite his sharp intelligence, to this aspect of human existence. It cannot be explained to him because there is nothing in his orbit of awareness that can bridge the gap with comparison. He can repeat the words and say glibly that he understands, and there is no way for him to realize that he does not understand. [Cleckley, H.M. (1941). The mask of sanity: An attempt to reinterpret the so-called psychopathic personality. St. Louis: The C. V. Mosby Company]

It also means that such a person is free to choose to do things that are potentially self-destructive without giving a single indication to another "player" that his or her choice is based entirely on a delusion. Very often, they "win" because of the sheer boldness of their actions which is unrestricted by conscience which is a construct of emotions.

It's like a poker player who has absolutely nothing in his hand, but because he is so intent on winning, and is so unmoved by the possibility of losing because lying produces absolutely no internal, emotional reaction of fear of being discovered or the potential shame or disaster inherent in such an event, is able to bluff so convincingly that the other players - any of whom might have a winning hand, fold and walk away because they are convinced by the psychopath's confidence that he must have the winning hand of all time.

Only he doesn't.

And this means that the psychopath's strength is also his Achilles heel. Once he has been spotted, identified, understood, he no longer has the power to bluff. Once knowledge enters the game, the psychopath is exposed, and has no more ability to "con" the other players. The sad part is: he also has no ability to learn from this experience anything other than how to make his bluff better and more convincing next time. The psychopath never gets mad because he is caught in a lie; he is only concerned with "damage control" in terms of his ability to continue to con others.

Societies can be considered as "players" in the psychopath's game model.

The past behavior of a society will be used by the psychopath to predict the future behavior of that society. Like an individual player, a society will have a certain probability of detecting deception and a more or less accurate memory of who has cheated on them in the past, as well as a developed or not developed proclivity to retaliate against a liar and cheater. Since the psychopath is using an actuarial approach to assess the costs and benefits of different behaviors (just how much can he get away with), it is the actual past behavior of the society which will go into his calculations rather than any risk assessments based on any "fears or anxieties" of being caught and punished that empathic people would feel in anticipation of doing something illegal.

Thus, in order to reduce psychopathic behavior in society and in government, a society MUST establish and enforce a reputation for high rates of detection of deception and identification of liars, and a willingness to retaliate. In other words, it must establish a successful strategy of deterrence.

Since the psychopath is particularly unable to make decisions based on future consequences, and is able only to focus attention on immediate gratification - short term goals - it is possible that such individuals can be dealt with by establishing a history of dealing out swift social retaliation. That is, identifying and punishing liars and cheaters must be both immediate and predictable that it will be immediate.

And here we come to the issue: concerning the real-world, human social interactions on a large scale, reducing psychopathy in our leaders depends upon expanding society's collective memory of individual players' past behavior.

Any reasonable scan of the news will reveal that lies and cheating are not "covered up" as thoroughly as American apologists would like to think.

Even the less well-informed Americans have some idea that there was certainly something fishy about the investigation into the assassination of JFK. In recent years, the man in charge of the Warren Commission, Gerald Ford, also a former president, admitted to "cheating" on the report.

Then, there was Watergate followed by the Iran-Contra affair, not to mention "Monica-gate." And here we are just hitting some highlights familiar to all Americans.

What consequences did the cheaters of society suffer?

None to speak of. In fact, in nearly every case, they were rewarded handsomely with those things of value to the psychopath: money and material goods. If anyone thinks they were shamed by public exposure, think again!

But what is of CRUCIAL interest here is the fact that the American people have simply NOT responded to the revelations of lies in government with any outrage that could be considered more than token. At the present time, there isn't even "token outrage."

Don't you find that odd?

But we have already noted the reason: the American way of life has optimized the survival of psychopathy and in a world of psychopaths, those who are not genetic psychopaths, are induced to behave like psychopaths simply to survive. When the rules are set up to make a society "adaptive" to psychopathy, it makes psychopaths of everyone. As a consequence, a very large number of Americans are effective sociopaths. (Here we use "sociopath" as a designation of those individuals who are not genetic psychopaths.)

And so, we have George Bush and the Third Reich calculating how much they can get away with by looking at the history of the reactions of the American People to cheating.

There aren't any because the system is adaptive to psychopathy. In other words, Americans support Bush and his agenda because most of them are LIKE him.

But that is not because they are ALL born that way. It is because psychopathy is almost required to survive in Competitive, Capitalistic America.

As a society gets larger and more competitive, individuals become more anonymous and more Machiavellian. Social stratification and segregation leads to feelings of inferiority, pessimism and depression among the have-nots, and this promotes the use of "cheating strategies" in life which then makes the environment more adaptive for psychopathy in general.

Psychopathic behavior among non-genetic psychopaths could be viewed as a functional method of obtaining desirable resources, increasing an individual's status in a local group, and even a means of providing stimulation that socially and financially successful people find in acceptable physical and intellectual challenges. In other words, the psychopath is a bored and frustrated sensation-seeker who "does not have the intellectual capacitiy to amuse and occupy himself" internally. Such individuals may begin their lives in the lower socio-economic levels, but they often rise to the top.

In America, a great many households are affected by the fact that work, divorce, or both, have removed one or both parents from interaction with their children for much of the day. This is a consequence of Capitalistic economics.

When the parents are absent, or even when one is present but not in possession of sufficient knowledge or information, children are left to the mercies of their peers, a culture shaped by the media. Armed with joysticks and TV remotes, children are guided from South Park and Jerry Springer to Mortal Kombat on Nintendo. Normal kids become desensitized to violence. More-susceptible kids - children with a genetic inheritance of psychopathy - are pushed toward a dangerous mental precipice. Meanwhile, the government is regularly passing laws, on the demand of parents and the psychological community, designed to avoid imposing consequences on junior's violent behavior.

As for media violence, few researchers continue to try to dispute that bloodshed on TV and in the movies has an effect on the kids who witness it. Added to the mix now are video games structured around models of hunting and killing. Engaged by graphics, children learn to associate spurts of "blood" with the primal gratification of scoring a "win."

Again, economics controls the reality.

While everyone will readily admit that there is probably too much violence on television and that the ads are probably pure balderdash, very few people have a real conception of the precise nature and extent of the hypnotic influence of the media. Still fewer have any idea of the purposes behind this inducement. Wallace and Wallechinsky write in The People's Almanac:

"After World War II, television flourished... Psychologists and sociologists were brought in to study human nature in relation to selling; in other words, to figure out how to manipulate people without their feeling manipulated. Dr. Ernest Dichter, President of the Institute for Motivational Research made a statement in 1941... 'the successful ad agency manipulates human motivations and desires and develops a need for goods with which the public has at one time been unfamiliar -- perhaps even undesirous of purchasing.
"Discussing the influence of television, Daniel Boorstin wrote:
'Here at last is a supermarket of surrogate experience. Successful programming offers entertainment -- under the guise of instruction; instruction -- under the guise of entertainment; political persuasion -- with the appeal of advertising; and advertising -- with the appeal of drama.'

"Programmed television serves not only to spread acquiescence and conformity, but it represents a deliberate industry approach." [quoted by Wallace, Wallechinsky]

Aside from the fact that television has been conjectured to be extremely detrimental to children and that it is now thought that most of the deteriorating aspects of society can be attributed to the decaying values portrayed on television, there is a deeper and more insidious effect upon the human psyche. As quoted, it is a planned and deliberate manipulation to spread acquiescence and conformity and to hypnotize the masses to submit to the authority of the masters of economics through their false prophet, the television.

Allen Funt, host of a popular show, Candid Camera, was once asked what was the most disturbing thing he had learned about people in his years of dealing with them through the media. His response was chilling in its ramifications:

"The worst thing, and I see it over and over, is how easily people can be led by any kind of authority figure, or even the most minimal kinds of authority. A well dressed man walks up the down escalator and most people will turn around and try desperately to go up also... We put up a sign on the road, 'Delaware Closed Today'. Motorists didn't even question it. Instead they asked: 'Is Jersey open?'" [quoted by Wallace, Wallechinsky]

A picture is forming of a deliberately contrived society of televised conformity, literate and creative inadequacy, and social unrest and decadence. It is apparent that the media is in charge of propagating these conditions, and the media is controlled by what?

Capitalistic, competitive Economics.

It would seem that the motivation masters would, in the interests of their industrial clients, plan programming to bring about beneficial societal conditions - which they could, in fact, do. It is apparent that the final authority on televised programming is in the hands of the advertisers, backed by the industries whose products are being sold. With all the psychological input to which they have access, it would seem that they utilize programming to correct societal conditions which cost them money. Over 25 billion dollars a year is spent to teach workers to read and write, after graduating from the combined effects of a public school system and the television. It is accepted that the burgeoning crime rate, which also costs these industrial giants vast sums of money, is mostly attributable to the frustrations and dissatisfactions engendered by the false view of reality presented over the television.

Why don't they use their financial resources to back the motivation masters to figure out how to present programming which could effect positive changes?

Can it be that the conditions of society, including the programed response to "minimal signs of authority" are planned? Would anyone care to suggest that the figures and studies relating to the detrimental influence of programming is not available to them and that they don't realize that it is costing them money? If that is the case, then they are too stupid to be arbiters of our values and we should disregard them entirely in any event. If it is not the case, then we must assume that there is an object to this manipulation.

There is much evidence to support the idea that this purpose, or the object of this manipulation, is to create psychological and social disunity - social psychopathy - sufficient to permit the instituting of a totalitarian government at the behest of the people. It is further theorized that the "wealthy elite" seek to control the entire world from behind the scenes and it is to this end that they mastermind and fund the various actions which appear to the masses as political and international "accidents".

FDR. said:

"Nothing in politics ever happens by accident; if it happens, you can bet it was planned!"

And he was in a position to know.

There is much evidence to support the notion that wars are fomented and fought to redistribute these balances of financial power behind the scenes and that, though our fathers, brother, grandfathers, uncles, cousins and sons die in these actions, they are merely games of "International Relations" played by those whose money and position give them absolute power to shape our reality to some nefarious end.

The psychic stresses of our world are right in the home. There they can easily act on any kid who believes that "the world has wronged me" - a sentiment spoken from the reality of existence - a reality created by economic pressures instituted via Game Theory.

Is there a solution?

The obvious solution would be a world in which, at the very least, the psychopath - in government or in society - would be forced to be responsible for unethical behavior. But game-theory modeling demonstrates that selfishness is always the most profitable strategy possible for replicating units.

Could it ever be an evolutionarily stable strategy for people to be innately unselfish?

On the whole, a capacity to cheat, to compete and to lie has proven to be a stupendously successful adaptation. Thus the idea that selection pressure could ever cause saintliness to spread in a society looks implausible in practice. It doesn't seem feasible to outcompete genes which promote competitiveness. "Nice guys" get eaten or outbred. Happy people who are unaware get eaten or outbred. Happiness and niceness today is vanishingly rare, and the misery and suffering of those who are able to truly feel, who are empathic toward other human beings, who have a conscience, is all too common. And the psychopathic manipulations are designed to make psychopaths of us all.

Nevertheless, a predisposition to, conscience, ethics, can prevail if and when it is also able to implement the deepest level of altruism: making the object of its empathy the higher ideal of enhancing free will in the abstract sense, for the sake of others, including our descendants.

In short, our "self-interest" ought to be vested in collectively ensuring that all others are happy and well-disposed too; and in ensuring that children we bring into the world have the option of being constitutionally happy and benevolent toward one another.

This means that if psychopathy threatens the well-being of the group future, then it can be only be dealt with by refusing to allow the self to be dominated by it on an individual, personal basis. Preserving free will for the self in the practical sense, ultimately preserves free will for others. Protection of our own rights AS the rights of others, underwrites the free will position and potential for happiness of all. If mutant psychopaths pose a potential danger then true empathy, true ethics, true conscience, dictates using prophylactic therapy against psychopaths.

And so it is that identifying the psychopath, ceasing our interaction with them, cutting them off from our society, making ourselves unavailable to them as "food" or objects to be conned and used, is the single most effective strategy that we can play.

It seems certain from the evidence that a positive transformation of human nature isn't going to come about through a great spiritual awakening, socio-economic reforms, or a spontaneous desire among the peoples of the world to be nice to each other. But it's quite possible that, in the long run, the psychopathic program of suffering will lose out because misery is not a stable strategy. In a state of increasing misery, victims will seek to escape it; and this seeking will ultimately lead them to inquire into the true state of their misery, and that may lead to a society of intelligent people who will have the collective capacity to do so.


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[Jul 29, 2019] American Ron Unz on Pizzagate Published on Jul 29, 2019 | www.unz.com

[Jul 25, 2019] The Epstein Case Is A Rare Opportunity To Focus On The Depraved Nature Of America s Elite Published on Jul 25, 2019 | www.zerohedge.com

[Jul 21, 2019] Breaking: Clinton Just Got Devastating News Published on Aug 12, 2016 | beforeitsnews.com

[Jul 15, 2019] Jeffrey Epstein Is Exhibit A for Capitalism's Moral Bankruptcy Published on Jul 15, 2019 | truthout.org

[Jul 09, 2019] Epstein and the conversion of politicians into "corrupt and vulnerable" brand Published on Jul 09, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

[Jan 26, 2019] Can the current US neoliberal/neoconservative elite be considered suicidal? Published on Jan 20, 2019 | www.theamericanconservative.com

[Jan 02, 2019] That madness of the US neocons comes from having no behavioural limits, no references outside of groupthink, and manipulating the language. Simply put, you don't know anymore what's what outside of the narrative your group pushes. The manipulators ends up caught in their lies. Published on Jan 02, 2019 | www.moonofalabama.org

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Groupthink : Two Party System as Polyarchy : Corruption of Regulators : Bureaucracies : Understanding Micromanagers and Control Freaks : Toxic Managers :   Harvard Mafia : Diplomatic Communication : Surviving a Bad Performance Review : Insufficient Retirement Funds as Immanent Problem of Neoliberal Regime : PseudoScience : Who Rules America : Neoliberalism  : The Iron Law of Oligarchy : Libertarian Philosophy

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War and Peace : Skeptical Finance : John Kenneth Galbraith :Talleyrand : Oscar Wilde : Otto Von Bismarck : Keynes : George Carlin : Skeptics : Propaganda  : SE quotes : Language Design and Programming Quotes : Random IT-related quotesSomerset Maugham : Marcus Aurelius : Kurt Vonnegut : Eric Hoffer : Winston Churchill : Napoleon Bonaparte : Ambrose BierceBernard Shaw : Mark Twain Quotes

Bulletin:

Vol 25, No.12 (December, 2013) Rational Fools vs. Efficient Crooks The efficient markets hypothesis : Political Skeptic Bulletin, 2013 : Unemployment Bulletin, 2010 :  Vol 23, No.10 (October, 2011) An observation about corporate security departments : Slightly Skeptical Euromaydan Chronicles, June 2014 : Greenspan legacy bulletin, 2008 : Vol 25, No.10 (October, 2013) Cryptolocker Trojan (Win32/Crilock.A) : Vol 25, No.08 (August, 2013) Cloud providers as intelligence collection hubs : Financial Humor Bulletin, 2010 : Inequality Bulletin, 2009 : Financial Humor Bulletin, 2008 : Copyleft Problems Bulletin, 2004 : Financial Humor Bulletin, 2011 : Energy Bulletin, 2010 : Malware Protection Bulletin, 2010 : Vol 26, No.1 (January, 2013) Object-Oriented Cult : Political Skeptic Bulletin, 2011 : Vol 23, No.11 (November, 2011) Softpanorama classification of sysadmin horror stories : Vol 25, No.05 (May, 2013) Corporate bullshit as a communication method  : Vol 25, No.06 (June, 2013) A Note on the Relationship of Brooks Law and Conway Law

History:

Fifty glorious years (1950-2000): the triumph of the US computer engineering : Donald Knuth : TAoCP and its Influence of Computer Science : Richard Stallman : Linus Torvalds  : Larry Wall  : John K. Ousterhout : CTSS : Multix OS Unix History : Unix shell history : VI editor : History of pipes concept : Solaris : MS DOSProgramming Languages History : PL/1 : Simula 67 : C : History of GCC developmentScripting Languages : Perl history   : OS History : Mail : DNS : SSH : CPU Instruction Sets : SPARC systems 1987-2006 : Norton Commander : Norton Utilities : Norton Ghost : Frontpage history : Malware Defense History : GNU Screen : OSS early history

Classic books:

The Peter Principle : Parkinson Law : 1984 : The Mythical Man-MonthHow to Solve It by George Polya : The Art of Computer Programming : The Elements of Programming Style : The Unix Hater’s Handbook : The Jargon file : The True Believer : Programming Pearls : The Good Soldier Svejk : The Power Elite

Most popular humor pages:

Manifest of the Softpanorama IT Slacker Society : Ten Commandments of the IT Slackers Society : Computer Humor Collection : BSD Logo Story : The Cuckoo's Egg : IT Slang : C++ Humor : ARE YOU A BBS ADDICT? : The Perl Purity Test : Object oriented programmers of all nations : Financial Humor : Financial Humor Bulletin, 2008 : Financial Humor Bulletin, 2010 : The Most Comprehensive Collection of Editor-related Humor : Programming Language Humor : Goldman Sachs related humor : Greenspan humor : C Humor : Scripting Humor : Real Programmers Humor : Web Humor : GPL-related Humor : OFM Humor : Politically Incorrect Humor : IDS Humor : "Linux Sucks" Humor : Russian Musical Humor : Best Russian Programmer Humor : Microsoft plans to buy Catholic Church : Richard Stallman Related Humor : Admin Humor : Perl-related Humor : Linus Torvalds Related humor : PseudoScience Related Humor : Networking Humor : Shell Humor : Financial Humor Bulletin, 2011 : Financial Humor Bulletin, 2012 : Financial Humor Bulletin, 2013 : Java Humor : Software Engineering Humor : Sun Solaris Related Humor : Education Humor : IBM Humor : Assembler-related Humor : VIM Humor : Computer Viruses Humor : Bright tomorrow is rescheduled to a day after tomorrow : Classic Computer Humor

The Last but not Least Technology is dominated by two types of people: those who understand what they do not manage and those who manage what they do not understand ~Archibald Putt. Ph.D


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