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Bigger doesn't imply better. Bigger often is a sign of obesity, of lost control, of overcomplexity, of cancerous cells
There is deep analogy between financial services and intelligence services. Both try to escape from the control of democratic society. Both try to control the society instead of serve it.
Allen Welsh Dulles (//; April 7, 1893 – January 29, 1969) was an American diplomat and lawyer who became the first civilian but third Director of Central Intelligence and its longest-serving director to date. As head of the Central Intelligence Agency during the early Cold War, he oversaw the 1954 Guatemalan coup d'état, Operation Ajax (the overthrow of Iran's elected government), the Lockheed U-2 aircraft program and the Bay of Pigs Invasion.
Following the assassination of John F. Kennedy, Dulles was one of the members of the Warren Commission. Between his stints of government service, Dulles was a corporate lawyer and partner at Sullivan & Cromwell. His older brother, John Foster Dulles, was the Secretary of State during the Eisenhower Administration.
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In 1950, Bedell Smith recruited Dulles to oversee the agency's covert operations as Deputy Director for Plans. The same year Dulles was promoted to Deputy Director of Central Intelligence, second in the intelligence hierarchy.
After the election of Dwight Eisenhower in 1952, Bedell Smith shifted to the Department of State and Dulles became the first civilian Director of Central Intelligence.
Oct 27, 2017 | www.zerohedge.com
Following last night's release of the latest set of JFK Assassination Files, the public has been busy combing through the several thousand documents. Among the more notable discoveries so far are the following: the CIA contemplated mafia hits on Cuban President Fidel Castro, involving the "false flag" staging of bombings in Miami; Someone calling the FBI threatening to kill Lee Harvey Oswald a day before Oswald's murder; the US examined sabotaging airplane parts heading to Cuba. As a reminder, following a deadline 25 years in the making, last night the National Archives released an abridged dump of JFK Assassination files. While president Trump blocked the release of some, arguably the most controversial, documents citing national security concerns, the release still left researchers and conspiracy theorists with 52 previously unreleased full documents and thousands in part to sift through.
Here are the key highlights from the trove so far, courtesy of CBS and AP :
- Sabotaging plane parts
A national security council document from 1962, one year before Kennedy's murder, referenced "Operation Mongoose," a covert attempt to topple communism in Cuba. I n the minutes of a secret meeting on Operation Mongoose from September 14,1962, "General (Marshall) Carter said that the CIA would examine the possibilities of sabotaging airplane parts which are scheduled to be shipped from Canada to Cuba ."
- CIA-mafia plot on Castro
A 1975 document from the Rockefeller Commission detailing the CIA's role in foreign assassinations said plans to assassinate Castro were undertaken in the early days of the Kennedy administration. The report said Attorney General Robert Kennedy, the President's brother, told the FBI he learned the CIA hired an intermediary "to approach Sam Giancana with a proposition of paying $150,000 to hire some gunman to go into Cuba and kill Castro ." The attorney general said that made it hard to prosecute Giancana, a Sicilian American mobster. "Attorney General Kennedy stated that the CIA should never undertake the use of mafia people again without first checking with the Department of Justice because it would be difficult to prosecute such people in the future," the report reads. The report also said the CIA was later interested in using mobsters to deliver a poison pill to Castro in order to kill him.
- CIA plots "False Flags" Terrorist events in Miami
During Operation Mongoose in 1960 , the CIA also considered staging terror events in Miami and blaming it on pro-Castro Cubans.
"We could develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington. We could sink a boatload of Cubans enroute to Florida (real or simulated). We could foster attempts on lives of Cuban refugees in the United States even to the extent of wounding in instances to be widely publicized. Exploding a few plastic bombs in carefully chosen spots, the arrest of a Cuban agent and the release of prepared documents substantiating Cuban involvement also would be helpful in projecting the idea of an irresponsible government."
- UK paper warned of 'big news'
According to a memo from the CIA's deputy director to the head of the FBI, a senior reporter in the Cambridge News in England received an anonymous phone call, saying he should contact the American Embassy in London for "some big news," before abruptly hanging up.
- The FBI gets a death threat on Oswald the day before his murder
A document dated November 24, 1963 , showed FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover addressing the death of Oswald at the hands of Jack Ruby. "There is nothing further on the Oswald case except that he is dead," Hoover begins.Hoover said the FBI's Dallas office received a call "from a man talking in a calm voice," saying he was a member of a committee to kill Oswald. He said they pressed the Dallas chief of police to protect Oswald, but Ruby was nevertheless able to kill the gunman.
"Ruby says no one was associated with him and denies having made the telephone call to our Dallas office last night," Hoover said. Hoover went on to say the FBI had evidence of Oswald's guilt and intercepts of Oswald's communications with Cuba and the Soviet Union. He said he was concerned there would be doubt in the public about Oswald's guilt and that President Lyndon Johnson would appoint a commission to investigate the assassination.
- Passing blame for a coup in South Vietnam
A top secret document from 1975 for the Rockefeller Commission outlines the testimony of former CIA Director Richard Helms. In the transcript, Helms said he thought former President Richard Nixon believed the CIA was responsible for the death of South Vietnamese President Ngo Dinh Diem, who died following a coup linked to the CIA
"There is absolutely no evidence of this in the agency records and the whole thing has been, I mean rather -- what is the word I want -- heated by the fact that President Johnson used to go around saying that the reason President Kennedy was assassinated was that he had assassinated President Diem and this was just justice," Helms said. Helms added: "where he got this from, I don't know."
The deposition continues, with him being asked if there was any way Oswald was in some way a CIA agent or an agent ," before the document cuts off.
- Alleged Cuban intel officer said he knew Oswald
A cable from the FBI in 1967 quoted one man quipping Oswald must have been a good shot. The alleged Cuban officer returned, "oh, he was quite good." Asked why he said that, the officer said, "I knew him."
- Jack Ruby's connections with Dallas police
An informant told the FBI that Oswald's assassin, Jack Ruby, had close links to local police in Dallas. Ruby, whose real name was Jacob Leon Rubenstein, was said to have had a "good in" with the authorities, who were served free drinks at his nightclub. A friend of Ruby's, Lou Lebby, described him in an FBI document as "emotional, unstable and a person who made his living primarily from 'scalping' tickets to sports events."
- Soviets said killing was an 'organized conspiracy'
FBI Director Hoover forwarded a memo to the White House in 1963 , shortly after Kennedy's death. The memo, obtained by the Church Committee and classified top secret, detailed US sources' sense of the reaction in the USSR to Kennedy's death. "According to our source, officials of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union believed there was some well-organized conspiracy on the part of the 'ultraright' in the United States to effect a 'coup,'" the memo said. " They seem convinced that the assassination was not the deed of one man, but that it arose out of a carefully planned campaign in which several people played a part.
The source said the Soviet officials claimed no connection between Oswald and the USSR, and described him as "a neurotic gunman.
- CIA intercepts call from Oswald to KGB
A CIA memo from the day of Kennedy's assassination outlined a CIA intercept of a call from Oswald, then in Mexico City, to the Russian embassy in Mexico . Oswald spoke to the consul, Valeriy Vladimirovich Kostikov, an "identified KGB officer" "in broken Russian." The memo's author said he was told by the FBI's liaison officer that the bureau believed Oswald's visit was to get help with a passport or visa.
The FBI was tracking Oswald before JFK's assassination
Oswald was being tracked by the New Orleans division of the FBI in October 1963 – the month before the assassination took place. An FBI report into the New Orleans division of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee said that, while the committee had been inactive since Oswald left the city, the bureau was planning to stay in contact "with Cuban sources for any indication of additional activity." Copies of the report were sent to FBI divisions in New York and Dallas, the city in which Kennedy was killed.
- Soviets Fear Assassination Would Lead To All Out War
The Soviet Union feared that the assassination of John F. Kennedy would lead to all-out war between it and the United States. A CIA source cited in the documents claimed that officials in the Communist Party believed the killing was part of a conspiracy by the "ultra-right" in the US, and were concerned that "without leadership, some irresponsible general in the US might launch a missile at the Soviet Union." Soviet officials also described assassin Lee Harvey Oswald as "a neurotic maniac who was disloyal to his own country," and played down the significance of his time within the Union.
Mar 10, 2017 | www.zerohedge.comCIA's Creator Came to Regret It ... Said the CIA Was a "Government All Its Own" Which Was Destroying Democracy
Whodathunkit , Mar 9, 2017 7:58 PMblindman , Mar 9, 2017 7:50 PM
Read something by Douglas Valentine. Or listen to him on YouTube. Guy laid it all out in book form in 1990, The Phoenix Program. Guy is a great historian on many subjects but they all lead back to the CeyeA.Consuelo , Mar 9, 2017 5:38 PM
Steve Pieczenik: Vault 7 Is Aimed To Take Down CIA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPaV5tEwZ0gDuneCreature , Mar 9, 2017 5:14 PM
Dreamscape, 1984 (wow, what a coincidence...)
Blair (intelligence/defence agency director) to the President (Eddie Albert):
"You can't touch me John, and you know it..."GRDguy , Mar 9, 2017 3:56 PM
This is getting kind of funny! ... I love it.
George Webb is slicing and dicing all of the CIA dirty tricks the agency has going on US soil. Dyncorpse, JTTF, hacking and cracking, brownstone operations, etc. etc. etc. ...... And now, Gulan is getting undressed in public. (I was warned to stay out of that one myself because it would really piss off the CIA) ..... Next up? .. Chemtrails, I hope. That one has us all in the cross hairs and needs to be addressed. (Listening, Mr President? ... The chems are killing your grandkids too)
Day 137 Part 1 = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AQelhNiEKE Day 137 Part 2 = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-hUclNzcJs
My working theory about George Webb is; He has a big time tap into CeyeA resources and probably CeyeA protection too.
George is the Energizer Terminator Bunny and his target is the CIA
Go George! Go!
Drip, drip, drip, drip, drip. ... Show the CIA what water torture is really all about, George! ... Day 133, Day 134, Day 135, Day 136.... Hahaha!
Live Hard, You Were Warned, You Don't Shit In Your Own Nest, Mr. Langley(s), Die Free
~ DC v5.0cheech_wizard -> GRDguy , Mar 9, 2017 6:09 PM
Truman signing off on the creation of the Israeli state was also a huge mistake.
Too bad his best friend was Jewish. He would have never signed it otherwise.
In fact, quoting from Truman's biography (McCullough):
"If Jesus Christ couldn't make these people happy when He was here on earth,
what the hell do they expect from me?" But he signed it anyway.GRDguy -> cheech_wizard , Mar 9, 2017 8:45 PM
or this from a 1947 diary...
Truman wrote in a July 21 passage, "The Jews, I find are very, very selfish. They care not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as D[isplaced] P[ersons] as long as the Jews get special treatment. Yet when they have power, physical, financial or political neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the under dog."
Standard Disclaimer: Tell me that last line is not the most honest truth you've read today.south40_dreams , Mar 9, 2017 3:42 PM
James Warburg, son of Federal Reserve founder Paul Warbug, gained some notice in a February 17, 1950, appearance before the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations in which he said,
"We shall have world government, whether or not we like it.
The question is only whether world government will be achieved by consent or by conquest."
As much as I respect Truman (I was born and raised in Independence, Missouri),
I think now that he was THEIR patsy. I suspect he never saw it coming.DuneCreature , Mar 9, 2017 3:37 PM
"17 U.S. intelligence agencies determined that Russia was responsible for damaging WikiLeaks disclosures of DNC and Clinton...."
CIA is just one?
We're screwedmtanimal , Mar 9, 2017 2:31 PM
It wouldn't be quite so bad if the CIA didn't have a strangle hold on the media too. ... You can't even get any information about the sumy-bitches in print or on the tube.
~~ ( The CIA News Agency Isn't Going To Cover This News Story )~~
I guess we'll have to tune into Russia Today to find out what's going on in Wash DC.
Pretty soon they will have to encrypt the news feeds, I can just feel it in my spooks.
If the CIA wants us to leave them alone they better get out of news crushing business. .......... In your face lies 24/7 doesn't help their PR any at all.
Live Hard, News With A Spin Doesn't Mean It Has To Be Red-Lined All Of The Time, Just A Leisurely Slow Twist Will Do It, Die Free
~ DC v5.0mtanimal , Mar 9, 2017 2:28 PM
And yet - what did they do after 9/11? The formed an even larger and more convoluted organization, DHS, because they supposedly "needed at that time a central organization that would bring all the various intelligence reports we were getting in those days, and there must have been a dozen of them, maybe more, bring them all into one organization so that the President would get one report on what was going on in various parts of the world" . Instead of a dozen, now there are what ... 17?
The bullshit of history repeats itself.Stef1304 , Mar 9, 2017 1:35 PM
Truman was a complete tool if he couldn't have seen that coming. Kind of like Greenspan trying to claim he didn't know his actions would cause financial bubbles. Bullshit.steelhead23 -> CAPT DRAKE , Mar 9, 2017 2:57 PM
This issue of CIA level of illegal needs definitively to be feed and exposed to the audience, until its dealt with. Same for this BIT FAT conglomerate of 17 Intelligence communities. That many is definitively NOT needed. Not only does it hurt the budget (paid with american people taxes), it also hurt the spirit of the republic itself. Since the killing of JFK and 9/11 (without even mentionning the number of people dying in the middle east and elsewhere), this level of organized criminality is a disgrace and a ongoing shame for the country.rf80412 -> CAPT DRAKE , Mar 9, 2017 2:52 PM
The spider-web of influence in the U.S. Congress may include the Deep State - but, that connection is facilitated by the Deep State's coziness with the intelligence services of other nation states, notably, Israel's Mossad, which supports AIPAC, which funds many members of Congress and scares the shit out of the rest.steelhead23 , Mar 9, 2017 1:15 PM
Congress has simply abdicated most of its responsibilities to the executive branch. They seem to think their only job is pork and pandering, then retiring to become a lobbyist or a sinecure at some corporation they did favors for ... rather than being the sole source of all legislation and - the way the Founding Fathers expected - jealous of their prerogatives and fearful of executive power.
A healthy Congress would act like the executive branch works for them - as in a parliamentary system.Big Hugh -> steelhead23 , Mar 9, 2017 1:44 PM
More recently, ex-president Carter told us that the U.S. is "no longer a democracy", in large measure due to the Citizens United case . The combination of a CIA-dominated deep state and an elitist election process has seriously injured democracy in the U.S.cheech_wizard -> Big Hugh , Mar 9, 2017 5:57 PM
The U.S. never was a democracy, but Jimmuh Carter was always a moron.steelhead23 -> Big Hugh , Mar 9, 2017 2:51 PM
No downvotes from me, but in his defense, he did qualify on subs.
Standard Disclaimer: Got dolphins?runnymede -> steelhead23 , Mar 9, 2017 5:16 PM
He was educated in the public school of Plains, attended Georgia Southwestern College and the Georgia Institute of Technology, and received a B.S. degree from the United States Naval Academy in 1946. In the Navy he became a submariner, serving in both the Atlantic and Pacific fleets and rising to the rank of lieutenant. Chosen by Admiral Hyman Rickover for the nuclear submarine program, he was assigned to Schenectady, New York, where he took graduate work at Union College in reactor technology and nuclear physics, and served as senior officer of the pre-commissioning crew of the Seawolf , the second nuclear submarine.
That's a high level of scholarship for a moron.goober -> steelhead23 , Mar 9, 2017 3:58 PM
Huge difference btw education and training; credentials and competence; government and the State; cleverness and intelligence.
Read chapter 8
Memoirs of a Superfluous Man
By Albert Nock
Then return and report.
If you're disinclined to read a book like 90% of the world, youtube the "Malaise speech" and see what an awesome leader Billy Carter's brother was.
I was embarrassed for him and I was only a young teen at the time.Big Hugh -> steelhead23 , Mar 9, 2017 3:12 PM
Depends entirely on what you think scholarship is and intelligence ? If you think you get them from what we call our higher ed system, you are completely mind fucked just as they are ? Do you see much if any real scholarship taking place anywhere these days or the complete denial of any form of free speech and Orwellian extremes at what we call our higher ed institutions ? Time to rethinhk a bunch of stuff my man -- Most higher ed today is more about sucking the brains out of peoples heads, indoctrination and propaganda, not scholarship or any form of truth. And it is nothing new at all for sure. Really got rolling during Carter's era and been rolling stronger ever since. You are well behind the curve, not up to speed as you seem to think and I do not say this as a negative, just information for you to ponder and rethink. Good luck with it.
Here is a starting point http://www.downtoearththinking.com/cogdis-and-normalcy-bias.htmlInsurrector -> Big Hugh , Mar 9, 2017 4:21 PM
You're right. Highly educated, yet without the common sense to defend himself against swamp rabbits. Jimmy Carter's Afghanistan policy as President is what brought the Taliban to power.
He spent 40 Billion in 1979 dollars to train and equip the Mujahideen, in some misguided attempt to thwart the damn Russki's.
The Carter Administration also tried to seat the Khmer Rouge as the rightful government of Cambodia even though they slaughtered one out of three Cambodians in the 1975-78 genocide.
That's a pretty high level of moronity for an educated man.DonaldWashington , Mar 9, 2017 1:03 PM
Yes Carter inherited a mess - Pakistani nuclear weapons and the oil crisis too. A lot fo bad shit happening back then. It seemed early on tha the was a one term president. Serving only one term is probably why he is still alive today and wasn't stressed to death by a second term.
Unfortunately Reagan doubled down on it and he funded Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda. He went all in with a weak hand.
The Mujahideen have been around for centuries though, but the CIA brought them into the 20th century.Vilfredo Pareto , Mar 9, 2017 12:22 PMKingTut -> East Indian , Mar 9, 2017 2:03 PM
Now as nearly as I can make out, those fellows in the CIA don't just report on wars and the like, they go out and make their own, and there's nobody to keep track of what they're up to. They spend billions of dollars on stirring up trouble so they'll have something to report on. They've become ... it's become a government all of its own and all secret. They don't have to account to anybody.
Harry S TrumanManthong -> DrData02 , Mar 9, 2017 1:04 PM
The CIA doesn't waste it's time with Pot, Heroin & Cocaine are much more profitable.
It really all started with Alan Dulles. When JFK fired him, he never went away and that is why JFK was assassinated.
The Deep Spook State is persistent and vicious. Just ask GHW Bush, who worked for Dulles and was in Dallas when Kennedy was shot.
I hope that Trump and Bannon see that something similar appears to be forming today.
Substitute the name Obama for Dulles.
"Exceptionalism"- the view that the United States has a right to impose its will because it knows more, sees farther, and lives on a higher moral plane than other nations-was to them not a platitude, but the organizing principle of daily life and global politics...
With a glance, a nod, and a few words, without consulting anyone other than the President, the brothers could mobilize the full power of the United States anywhere in the world."
Stephen Kinzer, The Brothers: John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles, and Their Secret World War
www.moonofalabama.orgguest77 | Jan 9, 2016 3:28:12 AM | 55
I just finished listening to the audio book of David Talbot's The Devil's Chessboard. Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of America's Secret Government . It was very good I think.
I'll spare you a full review, but the Dulles era has some very important and interesting similarities with our own (in fact, the ties are most certainly those first formed during the Dulles brothers tenure at State and CIA). Talbot doesn't delve deeply into these more recent aspects, but he does acknowledge them. And the similarities are quite clear. We find Dulles attempting to convince his superiors of the need and advantages of dealing with "moderate Nazis" like Reinhard Gehlen, so today there are personalities in our government following a policy of working with "moderate Islamists" and "moderate ultra-nationalists" to achieve our goals.
Initially I had heard that it was a Allen Dulles biography, and though there is a lot of detail about his personal life, his marriage, and even his kids, I would say it strays from what one might consider a "standard" biography and is more about Dulles and his times. For instance, there are a couple of chapters devoted just to the Kennedy Assassination, another on Oswald, and one on the "Generals' putsch" in France in '61. Perhaps someone looking for more focus on Dulles the man might be disappointed by this, but for someone like myself interested in the history and insights of era Dulles lived in. The era covered is approximately the 1930s through the 1969.
Talbot uses Dulles life as the base to build up the important (and to my mind misunderstood and misconstrued) stories in recent US history. That story is, of course, the following: despite the impression most Americans have of our country fighting the ultimate "good war" against universally despised enemies - that fact is that the ruling elite of the US was deeply split.
A large portion of the US elite was sympathetic to the Nazis. Indeed, the pro-Nazi segment of the US elite had built up ties with Germany during the inter-war period. The bonds were economic, political and even ideological - indeed, these links were so important that likely Germany would not have been able to rearm itself without the help of these "patriotic" Americans (Talbot makes clear that in some cases this kinship was evident even during the war itself!).
And no one represents the fascist sympathizing segment of the US elite like Allen Dulles. And Talbot tracks this key figure's fascist ties as he rises in the US power structure from his early years as an OSS man wheeling and dealing with Nazi generals in Bern, Switzerland and on through Dulles' creation and/or support of fascist governments in Latin America, the Middle East, and Africa during the Cold War. Talbot covers the events surrounding Dulles life excellently. Especially moving was his chapter on Guatemala - the tragedy of the Arbenz family as a mirror of the tragedy of Guatemala is covered through the eyes of the grandson of Arbez.
Talbot covers the horror stories of the results of America working closely with dictators like Trujillo, the Shah, Mobutu Sese Seko, and Batista (he misses Indonesia though, an operation that caused the death of 1,000,000 Indonesians). But of course, as an American, the most important question to Talbot is that of Dulles role in the Kennedy assassination. Talbot covers this topic well and makes a very good case for Dulles involvement - including revealing (from his day calendar) the fact that "fired" and "retired" from the CIA Allen Dulles, spent the weekend - from the time Kennedy was shot and killed Friday through the hours that Oswald was gunned down - at a CIA command facility in Virginia.
guest77 | Jan 9, 2016 4:08:48 AM | 59https://blogs.princeton.edu/mudd/2008/01/allen-dulles-papers-released-by-cia-to-princeton-are-now-online/Allen Dulles papers released by CIA to Princeton are now online
Posted on January 23, 2008 by Dan Linke
The Central Intelligence Agency has released to Princeton University some 7,800 documents covering the career of Allen W. Dulles, the agency's longest-serving director, which now can be viewed online at http://arks.princeton.edu/ark:/88435/st74cq497
Dulles (1893-1969), a Princeton alumnus who headed the CIA from 1953 to 1961, was renowned for his role in shaping U.S. intelligence operations during the Cold War. Last March, the CIA released to Princeton a collection of letters, memoranda, reports and other papers - some still redacted - that the agency had removed from Dulles' papers after his death and before their transfer to the University in 1974.
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