|Home||Switchboard||Unix Administration||Red Hat||TCP/IP Networks||Neoliberalism||Toxic Managers|
|May the source be with you, but remember the KISS principle ;-)|
HP's Solaris to Linux Migration whitepaper served as a source of additional inspiration in version 0.4. IBM's "Migrating to Linux or AIX from Solaris OS" CD ROM helped to put Power5 family in proper perspective relative to UltraSparc and Opteron in version 0.89.
Wiley Sanders (Yipes Enterprise Services) provided his valuable feedback about quality of X2100 as well as difficulties of switching from Solaris on Sparc to Solaris on Opteron.
Many readers provided valuable feedback on early versions of the paper and that sustains this volunteer project on its path for more then a year. Positive feedback was a great stimulus to expand further topics covered in the paper as each feedback provide different unique insights into the situation and the author would like to thank all reader who send such feedback no matter positive or negative for encouragement. Also I think that for some readers the arguments were convincing enough to try Solaris. In such cases I think the paper despite all its deficiencies achieved it mission. Here is one example of this genre:
Dr. Nikolai Bezroukov,
Thank you for this article. It is one of the most informative on the subject that I have ever seen. I have used Linux for about 11 years, and used it at ISP's before the dot com bust. Linux has come a long way for sure, and I will continue to use it where appropriate. For a while, I've been watching Solaris and wondering if it would really make for a "better Linux than Linux".
I have been thinking of installing it more at my customers sites and using Linux less. This article has given me the inspiration to push forward and invest more time and resources into Solaris. In the long run, I think my customers will benefit ! Although Solaris X86 has been around since version 8, (if I remember correctly), I was afraid to really use it in a production environment, and attaining a high end Sparc system was out of the question at the time. With Sun solidly behind Opteron, I am excited about the prospects !
As an interesting sidenote.... I once had a Sun 4/110. The external hard drive sounded like an airplane taking off. The proc ran at something like 13mhz. It had a manufacture date of 1989 and the monitor was 21 inches, had red/green/blue cables and weighed about 100 lbs... would had made a great boat anchor. I GAVE IT AWAY because i couldn't stop playing with it and was loosing time on other projects ! I wish I still had it ! Things have come a long way haven't they ! Anyway, good luck and thanks so much for the article.
Among letters sent to the author there was also a large, almost daily stream of letters from Linux enthusiasts who criticized almost everything the article stated and thus provided important stimulus for the author to review and sharpen focus of some statements. For some people it is difficult to believe that their beloved OS does not invoke excitement of specialists who get used to other systems :-). For example one permanent stream of mails, while sometimes contains interesting observations, completely mixes enterprise distributions and large enterprise environment with experimental distributions and university environment (note, for example, claims about stack protection with PaX protection in the letter reproduced below). Here is one typical letter belonging to this genre nicely favored with an appropriate doze of misplaced indignation (from Samy Al Bahra (gwu.edu), received Mar 3, 2007):
I am a major Solaris fan, and a major FreeBSD fan. As someone extremely interested in operating system design and implementation both platforms definitely provide better examples of sober engineering and elegant hackery.
However, your article titled "Solaris vs Linux" is absolute cruft backed by unsubstantiated claims. There are many benchmarks that speak against Solaris when compared to Linux for small-to-large (not huge) machines. Yes, Solaris scales well on HUGE machines (16 processors, etc...) but even scalability comes at a cost (fine grained locks, component based design, etc...). Solaris is also more reliable. But Zones was an innovation based on the FreeBSD jails concept phk@FreeBSD pioneered (which is similar to the OS/2 sandbox idea).
Even though Linux is not a complete engineering success, it does run on many critical networks and as an open popular platform did attract the proper target audience to innovate in security. Get it right, through the PaX patch, Linux was the first system to truly provide non-executable stack and *comprehensive* buffer overflow protection even on x86 processors lacking nx.
Regarding file-system performance, it was not until ZFS that Solaris actually performed well here :-) Before that, countless benchmarks will completely nark on it. Benchmarks published so far, are sketchy (independent benchmarks, BTW) for ZFS. ZFS is by far a superior architecture in terms of scalability/management/reliability (which implies integrity). However, there are file-system options for Linux much more diverse which you fail to look at (XFS?! Lustre?!)Also, Opteron as an architecture is not 'superior' to the Intel Core 2 Duo Extreme architecture in any light, whatsoever. As a concept, yes, ccNUMA is the future. But the performance gold cup still goes to Intel (it was only in a small time frame with Intel Core 2 Duo's shared cache architecture that Opteron out-performed Intel's multi-core offerings). UltraSparc is good for through-put computing, but is completely pathetic when compared to Itanium (and the EPIC architecture). Computational abilities of UltraSparc are also limited. If anything, UltraSparc has always been a good winner in I/O (and the T1 release was definitely a big win for UltraSparc viability).
Anyways, I could go on and on about your article. All that time you spent typing and bashing on Linux could've been spent doing real research and *truly* highlighting the areas Solaris deserves credit for (for example, not listing VFS, a CORE concept in UNIX now, as a SUN innovation...or looking at dtrace) and in the mean time, you could've also truly highlighted areas Linux has innovated (things like kexec, LSM, PaX, vm86, ALSA, etc...). Such ranting is not a contribution of any sort really.
Good job writing a lot though! Contact the SUN marketing team some day (though they're even more honest).
There is another category of readers who accept validity of some critique (although often forget that this article is about enterprise environment and only about enterprise environment) but think that my claims that BSD flavors of Unix are more true to the spirit of open source then linux simply untrue. To be perfectly clear -- I'm not a Linux basher, but I think that linux proponents often try to rewrite the history and/or miss several important facts (sometimes just due to ignorance: in general few people pay due attention to studying the history of software engineering in general and OS development in particular ) :
Here is one example of this genre that contain an interesting allusion between linux-way and Microsoft-way "We know that Linux neither is the best or was the first in anything and that is part of the Linux way: Linux is an all-rounder, like the human being. " (letter from Tim Tassonis, Switzerland received June 24, 2007):
I thought your articles very quite an interesting read. However, I fear you are disqualifying your work as serious by your constant rants against Linux and Linus Torvalds and your hailings of the wonderful BSD.
Contrary to what you constantly claim, we Linux users are not as blind and daft as you think. We know Linus Torvalds did not invent UNIX (he knows it too...), we have heard of BSD and don't think it's worse than Linux.
We know that Linux neither is the best or was the first in anything and that is part of the Linux way: Linux is an all-rounder, like the human being. That is one reason of its success and why I love it. The other reason for its success is that it quickly ran on more crap hardware than any other system apart from Windows, so we mere mortals were actually able to use it on our crap PC's.
And we all always knew that Eric Raymond is a self-centered idiot and gun fanatic, no news there as well.
But go on and tell the world about divine BSD/Solaris/OSX and how we're all fooled by the big Linus Torvalds conspiracy.
He IS an Illuminati, after all.
Groupthink : Two Party System as Polyarchy : Corruption of Regulators : Bureaucracies : Understanding Micromanagers and Control Freaks : Toxic Managers : Harvard Mafia : Diplomatic Communication : Surviving a Bad Performance Review : Insufficient Retirement Funds as Immanent Problem of Neoliberal Regime : PseudoScience : Who Rules America : Neoliberalism : The Iron Law of Oligarchy : Libertarian Philosophy
War and Peace : Skeptical Finance : John Kenneth Galbraith :Talleyrand : Oscar Wilde : Otto Von Bismarck : Keynes : George Carlin : Skeptics : Propaganda : SE quotes : Language Design and Programming Quotes : Random IT-related quotes : Somerset Maugham : Marcus Aurelius : Kurt Vonnegut : Eric Hoffer : Winston Churchill : Napoleon Bonaparte : Ambrose Bierce : Bernard Shaw : Mark Twain Quotes
Vol 25, No.12 (December, 2013) Rational Fools vs. Efficient Crooks The efficient markets hypothesis : Political Skeptic Bulletin, 2013 : Unemployment Bulletin, 2010 : Vol 23, No.10 (October, 2011) An observation about corporate security departments : Slightly Skeptical Euromaydan Chronicles, June 2014 : Greenspan legacy bulletin, 2008 : Vol 25, No.10 (October, 2013) Cryptolocker Trojan (Win32/Crilock.A) : Vol 25, No.08 (August, 2013) Cloud providers as intelligence collection hubs : Financial Humor Bulletin, 2010 : Inequality Bulletin, 2009 : Financial Humor Bulletin, 2008 : Copyleft Problems Bulletin, 2004 : Financial Humor Bulletin, 2011 : Energy Bulletin, 2010 : Malware Protection Bulletin, 2010 : Vol 26, No.1 (January, 2013) Object-Oriented Cult : Political Skeptic Bulletin, 2011 : Vol 23, No.11 (November, 2011) Softpanorama classification of sysadmin horror stories : Vol 25, No.05 (May, 2013) Corporate bullshit as a communication method : Vol 25, No.06 (June, 2013) A Note on the Relationship of Brooks Law and Conway Law
Fifty glorious years (1950-2000): the triumph of the US computer engineering : Donald Knuth : TAoCP and its Influence of Computer Science : Richard Stallman : Linus Torvalds : Larry Wall : John K. Ousterhout : CTSS : Multix OS Unix History : Unix shell history : VI editor : History of pipes concept : Solaris : MS DOS : Programming Languages History : PL/1 : Simula 67 : C : History of GCC development : Scripting Languages : Perl history : OS History : Mail : DNS : SSH : CPU Instruction Sets : SPARC systems 1987-2006 : Norton Commander : Norton Utilities : Norton Ghost : Frontpage history : Malware Defense History : GNU Screen : OSS early history
The Peter Principle : Parkinson Law : 1984 : The Mythical Man-Month : How to Solve It by George Polya : The Art of Computer Programming : The Elements of Programming Style : The Unix Haterís Handbook : The Jargon file : The True Believer : Programming Pearls : The Good Soldier Svejk : The Power Elite
Most popular humor pages:
Manifest of the Softpanorama IT Slacker Society : Ten Commandments of the IT Slackers Society : Computer Humor Collection : BSD Logo Story : The Cuckoo's Egg : IT Slang : C++ Humor : ARE YOU A BBS ADDICT? : The Perl Purity Test : Object oriented programmers of all nations : Financial Humor : Financial Humor Bulletin, 2008 : Financial Humor Bulletin, 2010 : The Most Comprehensive Collection of Editor-related Humor : Programming Language Humor : Goldman Sachs related humor : Greenspan humor : C Humor : Scripting Humor : Real Programmers Humor : Web Humor : GPL-related Humor : OFM Humor : Politically Incorrect Humor : IDS Humor : "Linux Sucks" Humor : Russian Musical Humor : Best Russian Programmer Humor : Microsoft plans to buy Catholic Church : Richard Stallman Related Humor : Admin Humor : Perl-related Humor : Linus Torvalds Related humor : PseudoScience Related Humor : Networking Humor : Shell Humor : Financial Humor Bulletin, 2011 : Financial Humor Bulletin, 2012 : Financial Humor Bulletin, 2013 : Java Humor : Software Engineering Humor : Sun Solaris Related Humor : Education Humor : IBM Humor : Assembler-related Humor : VIM Humor : Computer Viruses Humor : Bright tomorrow is rescheduled to a day after tomorrow : Classic Computer Humor
The Last but not Least
Copyright © 1996-2016 by Dr. Nikolai Bezroukov. www.softpanorama.org was initially created as a service to the (now defunct) UN Sustainable Development Networking Programme (SDNP) in the author free time and without any remuneration. This document is an industrial compilation designed and created exclusively for educational use and is distributed under the Softpanorama Content License.
Original materials copyright belong to respective owners. Quotes are made for educational purposes only in compliance with the fair use doctrine.
FAIR USE NOTICE This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available to advance understanding of computer science, IT technology, economic, scientific, and social issues. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided by section 107 of the US Copyright Law according to which such material can be distributed without profit exclusively for research and educational purposes.
This is a Spartan WHYFF (We Help You For Free) site written by people for whom English is not a native language. Grammar and spelling errors should be expected. The site contain some broken links as it develops like a living tree...
|You can use PayPal to make a contribution, supporting development of this site and speed up access. In case softpanorama.org is down you can use the at softpanorama.info|
The statements, views and opinions presented on this web page are those of the author (or referenced source) and are not endorsed by, nor do they necessarily reflect, the opinions of the author present and former employers, SDNP or any other organization the author may be associated with. We do not warrant the correctness of the information provided or its fitness for any purpose.
Created Jan 2, 2005. Last modified: September 12, 2017