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The leaders of smaller and less industrialized nations are not madmen (whatever the media claims). They also are generally better informed than their citizens. In a war an attacker does not need equal forces compared to the enemy. The attacker needs a 5-fold local superiority, or better. No one begins wars without very definite objectives and a quick victory in sight. If a war with more even military balance erupts, someone has been mislead and walked into a trap (usually arranged by third party).

After the American war of Independence (1776-1779), and an English challenge to that independence (1812-1814) no single nation has planned an offensive war against the USA. It is probable that a strong coalition of Anglo-French-led European nations planned to split the USA into two states through diplomatic recognition of the Confederate states possibly followed up by naval blockade embargoing the Union. At that time the British Empire was the strongest naval power, and the French the second strongest. The events led, however, into the Civil War (1860-1865) and due to the Russian intervention 1863 (1863) on the Union's side, those European plans were quietly abandoned.

Mexican wars 1819, 1846-48: Long series of operations, commencing with the annexion of Florida (1819) and followed by a declaration of independence of Texas from Mexico (1836). Provocative troop movements near the U.S. southern border caused an incident which led to war. (It is said the US built a fortification 150 km inside the Mexican border.) The annexation of Texas by the USA and the conquest of California, New Mexico, and nearby territories followed. Mexico had a weak government at that time, because after Napoleon conquered Spain (1809) their former colonies soon revolted. Mexico had been a colony of the Spanish kingdom but now they revolted and formed a republic. There were a series of revolts, not just one.

Spanish-American war, 1898: The surprise explosion of the battleship Maine at Havana, Cuba. 255 of the crew died. The Hearst press accused the Spanish, claiming that the explosion was caused by a remote-controlled mine. The USA declared war on Spain, and conquered Philippines, Guam and Cuba. Subsequent investigations revealed that the explosion originated inside the Maine and that it was either an accident, such as a coal explosion, or some type of time bomb inside the battleship. Divers investigating the shipwreck found that the armour plates of the ship were blown bending outwards, not inwards.

World War I, 1914-1918: A U-boat torpedo hit ocean liner Lusitania near Britain and some 1200 people, including 128 Americans, on board lost their lives. Subsequent investigations revealed that the major explosions were inside the Lusitania, as it was secretly transporting 6 million pounds of artillery shells and rifle ammunition, as well as other explosives on behalf of Morgan banking corporation to help their clients, the Britain and the France. It was against US laws to transport war materials and passengers in the same ship.

World War 2, 1939-1945: A U-boat torpedo hit the ocean liner Athenia near Britain with some 1100 passengers, of which 311 were Americans. The sea was calm and only 118 people on board lost their lives. The ship was sunk because it behaved like a military transport, blackened out and zigzagging. This incident wasn't enough to precipitate war, and the Germans also refused to be provoked by several American acts of war. Americans confiscated German merchant ships, and Americans started to support the British with various lend-lease items, US volunteer pilots joined the RAF and some RAF pilots were trained in the US, US gave the British 50 old but usable WW1 destroyers and 20 modern torpedo boats, tanks, light bombers, fighter aircraft like P-40s and so on. American destroyers also escorted the convoys bound to Britain, and attacked German U-boats even far away from those convoys. The US did not maintain a neutral stance attitude towards the warring nations.

The US naval intelligence, chief of Japan desk planned and suggested "8 insults", which should bring Japan into war with the US. President Roosevelt executed this plan immediately and also added some other insults, enraging the Japan. The most serious one was a total blockade of Japanese oil imports, as agreed between the Americans, British and the Dutch. FDR also declared an all-out embargo against the Japan and forbade them the use of Panama canal, impeding Japan's access to Venezuelan oil.

The Flying Tigers volunteer air group successfully fighting the Japanese in China with some 90 fairly modern P-40Bs was another effective provocation that is not generally acknowledged by historical accounts of World War 2, most of which fail to mention any air combat action prior to 7th December 1941. But at that time the Japanese had already had lost about 100 military aircraft, mostly bombers, to the Tigers. After Pearl Harbor these squadrons were some of the the hardest-hitting ones in the US service.

The attack on Pearl Harbour followed some 6 months later. Having broken the Japanese encryption codes, the Americans knew what was going to happen, when and where, but the president did not dispatch this information to Pearl Harbor. Americans even gave their friends the British 3 Magic decrypting machines which automatically opened encrypted Japanese military traffic. But this same information was not available to the commanders of Hawaii. The movement of the fleet was also visible in the very effective radio direction finding network. Japan had an alliance with Germany, and the Germans upheld their promises by declaring the war against the USA right after the Japanese declaration.

Two scapegoats, the navy commander Admiral Husband Kimmel, and the army commander Lt. General Walter Short were found incompetent and demoted as they were allowed to retire. Short died 1949 and Kimmel 1958. In 1995, the US Congress re-examined this decision and endorsed it. Then in 2000 some archive information came to light and the US Senate passed a resolution stating that both had served in Hawaii "competently and professionally". In 1941 they were denied vital information, and even on presidential orders purposefully mislead into believing that the Japanese feet could be expected from the southwest. These commanders have yet to be rehabilited by the Pentagon.

Korean War, 1950-1953: South Korean incursions (the Tiger regiment etc.) into North Korea (1949) led to contrary claims and into war. The cause of this war propably was covert action involving leaders of Taiwan, South Korea and the US military-industrial complex (John Foster Dulles has been mentioned as an organizer of the hostilities.) After the unpublished hostilities in 1949, the communist powers were strongly backing North Korea.

Chiang Kai Sek was being abandoned, isolated and falling prey to the powerful communist Chinese operations. The right-wing South Korean ruler was expected to loose the soon-to-be-elections. The American military-industrial complex went into high gear again, and huge government orders for equipment were flowing in.

The American-led UN forces had difficult times early in the war, but after sufficient forces arrived they advanced victoriously and penetrated deep into the North Korea. The strong Chino-Russian intervention into the war once again turned the tides, the Chinese with vast armies on ground, and the Soviets less visibly with large numbers of aircraft, nearly costing the UN forces the war.

Finally the front stabilised along the original 38th parallel armistice line. The war resulted in the death of 3 million Korean Chinese and the destruction of virtually all of the Korean cities, and left Taiwan in strong American protection and South Korea firmly in the hands of the right-wing president Syngman Rhee. Some 55,000 Americans lost their lives.

Vietnam War: "The Tonkin incident", where American destroyer Maddox was supposedly attacked twice by three North Vietnamese torpedo boats in 1964 in the Gulf of Tonkin never happened. What was happening at the time were aggressive South Vietnamese raids against the North in the same general area. Huge American presence wasn't decisive and President Nixon negotiated a "peace with honour" in 1973. This war was lost, when North Vietnam finally conquered South Vietnam in 1975.

Grenada invasion: The Grenadian leader, Maurice Bishop, favouring the left and having invited Cubans to help build the infrastructure including by extending the airport to accomodate long range Soviet aircraft, was deposed and executed in October 19, 1983. Six days later the US invaded, with the proffered reason that the American medical students studying in the Grenada were in danger due the Cuban presence. The new leader supported by the US favoured more traditional values and the right.

War on Drugs: The war was launched by Richard M Nixon sometime around June 17,1971. The drug problem was found bad within the army in Viet Nam around 1968 prompting action was required towards the end of the war. Nowadays it is estimated that the military will never win the War on Drugs. The street prices of illicit drugs did not change significantly in the USA despite the military action in foreign drug-producing countries. The Colombian experience, with local military supported by the US, has shown that peace is more important than war against drugs. The Colombians have successfully negotiated some 1000s of guerrilla fighters back into the society and out of jungle.

This "war" actually seems to be a pretext for military invasions into less developed countries, where covert "bad" drug lords on behalf of western intelligence services are producing drugs into US and first world markets. This operation produces huge incomes, generating black budget money for those intelligence services managing the global drug operations.

Panama invasion: The incident between American and Panamanian troops led to invasion. The leader Noriega was changed and the earlier Carter administration plan to hand control of the canal over to Panama was cancelled. The strategic importance of the canal has surpassed any more just thinking in the US global domination policy.

US-Israeli sponsored war between Iraq and Iran, 1980-1988: The US has built power bases in the Middle East in Iran starting with the CIA-organised coup 1953, where Iranian prime minister Mossadeq was replaced with the Shah of Iran Reza Pahlavi and he by his son Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. Iran was equipped with the best western military equipment, including the American F-14 fighters with Phoenix missiles and the British Chieftain MBTs. Unfortunately there was in 1979 a coup of ayatollah Khomeini replacing the Shah and founding an Islamite nation.

After this, the US warmed up relations with their good Iraqi friend Saddam Hussein, and started to build a nation capable of challenging the Iran. Iraq acquired large numbers of effective weapons including factories able to produce older versions of gas warfare agents. These would later be called WMDs, which of course they were not, being the WW1-vintage weapons.

The war broke out and was fought to exhaustion because third-party powers, especially Israel, were carefully monitoring the power balance supplying more weapons to the side which seemed to be loosing. "Too bad they both cannot loose" is how Kissinger evaluated this situation.

Desert Storm (First Gulf war), 1991): Hussein asked for permission from the US (via their ambassador April Gillespie) and got an answer that the US does not care Arab quarrels. That was a trap, and after Saddam occupied Kuwait, George Bush Sr. mobilised a coalition of some 40 nations to "liberate Kuwait" and to smash the recently-built Iraqi military power base. This also involved a media hoax, where the daughter of Kuwaiti US ambassador played nurse on TV and testified to "witnessing" Iraqi soldiers throwing babies out of incubators in Kuwait.

War on Terror: The war was launched by Bush administration October 2001. The war was claimed to be the response on terrorism, especially the 9-11 incidents. Most of the people in the world today know that these reasons are false and that those events were based on MIH type (make it happen) inside job.

Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan invasion), 7.10.2001-: Without any evidence, the former CIA-asset, a Saudi-Arabian Osama bin Laden was claimed to be the mastermind behind the 9/11 strikes at the WTC and the Pentagon. Such a complex operation, if actually executed which it was not, in this case would be much beyond the capabilities of anything in Afghanistan. Only some top ten intelligence services in the world could hope to be successful in such an operation involving forgery, infiltration, living "underground" in a foreign non-Muslim country, coordination of moves, illegal arms, hi-quality flight training, accurate aircraft navigation in no-visibility conditions and so on. Perhaps even less, because the friends of the US (at that time, still most of the world) would also have been interested in stopping the attack.

Enduring Justice (Second Gulf war), 20.3.2003-: later known with less irony as Operation Iraqi Freedom The claimed reason of the attack was that Iraq was a clear and present danger to the US with wmd's available within less than an hour after the decision to assemble them has been made. Since no wmd's were found, and after the Iraqi also scrapped some 800 long range Scud style missiles before the US coalition attack, the reason for the invasion was changed into "bringing the democracy into Iraq".


 

References

Why the Pearl Harbor took place

Robert B. Stinnett: Day of Deceit: the Truth about FDR and Pearl Harbor, 2000
Mark Emerson Wiley: Pearl Harbour - mother of all conspiracies
http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6315/pearl.html

Cordell Hull's Ultimatum to Japan

http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6315/hullno26.html

What the US usually knew in advance (books)

Fredrick W. Winterbotham: The Ultra secret, 1974
Bradley F. Smith: The Ultra-Magic Deals, 1992
F.H.Hinsley: British Intelligence in the WW2 (4 large volumes), 1988

How to create innocent-looking wars

http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/wars/

How wars are made

http://tacklingthetoughtopics.net/default.htm
Especially these items: World War 1, World War 2, Korean War, The Vietnam War

How to create distant future wars

The Best Enemy Money Can Buy by Antony C. Sutton
Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution by Antony C. Sutton
Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler by Antony C. Sutton
The out-of-print book: From Major Jordan's Diaries (Google this item)


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[Feb 14, 2018] BuzzFeed Suing DNC For Proof They Were Hacked Zero Hedge

Notable quotes:
"... As part of their defense, BuzzFeed issued a subpoena to the DNC for information which might help them defend against Gubarev's lawsuit by verifying claims in the dossier - including "digital remnants left by the Russian state operatives," as well as a full version of the hacking report prepared by cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike. ..."
"... Since the DNC wouldn't let the FBI look at the server and instead relied on the report prepared by CrowdStrike (founded by Russian expat Dimitri Alperovitch - who sits on the very Anti-Russian Atlantic Council along with Evelyn " oops! " Farkas. The AC is funded by the US State Department, NATO, Latvia, Lithuania, and Ukranian Oligarch Victor Pinchuk, who apparently owns the Ukrainian gas company Joe Biden's son is on the board of). ..."
"... If the DNC is compelled to turn over the full CrowdStrike report and "digital remnants," perhaps Gubarev would then present a counter-analysis by researcher Forensicator which CrowdStrike apparently "missed" - revealing that the DNC files were copied at 22.6 MB/s - all but confirming that the files had to have been copied locally by an inside source. Many have speculated that DNC IT staffer Seth Rich, whose murder is still unsolved, was the source of the emails provided to WikiLeaks. ..."
"... Word of BuzzFeed's suit against the DNC comes on the heels of a Monday revelation that the news outlet hired a former top FBI and White House cybersecurity official to fly around the globe on a secret mission to corroborate various claims in the dossier. ..."
"... The probe is being conducted by Anthony Ferrante - formerly the FBI's top official in charge of "cyber incident response" at the U.S. National Security Council under the Obama administration. Ferrante is leading the investigation from his new employer, D.C.-based business advisory firm, Forensic Technologies International (FTI) consulting reports Foreign Policy ..."
"... Wouldn't it be funny if BuzzFeed proves the DNC wasn't hacked? ..."
Feb 14, 2018 | www.zerohedge.com

BuzzFeed is suing the cash-strapped Democratic National Committee (DNC) to force them to hand over information related to the "Steele Dossier" that might help the news outlet defend itself against a lawsuit lodged by a Russian businessman who was named in the document. Three separate lawsuits have been launched against BuzzFeed in connection to the January 11, 2017 publication of the dossier, which states that Russian tech executive Aleksej Gubarev used his web hosting companies to hack into the DNC's computer systems.

The dossier, without substantiation, said Gubarev's U.S.-based global web-hosting companies, XBT and Webzilla, planted digital bugs, transmitted viruses and conducted altering operations against the Democratic Party leadership.

While one key name in the dossier was blackened out by BuzzFeed, Gubarev's was not. He alleges that he was never contacted for comment, suffering reputational harm in the process. - Foreign Policy

As part of their defense, BuzzFeed issued a subpoena to the DNC for information which might help them defend against Gubarev's lawsuit by verifying claims in the dossier - including "digital remnants left by the Russian state operatives," as well as a full version of the hacking report prepared by cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike.

Since the DNC wouldn't let the FBI look at the server and instead relied on the report prepared by CrowdStrike (founded by Russian expat Dimitri Alperovitch - who sits on the very Anti-Russian Atlantic Council along with Evelyn " oops! " Farkas. The AC is funded by the US State Department, NATO, Latvia, Lithuania, and Ukranian Oligarch Victor Pinchuk, who apparently owns the Ukrainian gas company Joe Biden's son is on the board of).

"As part of the discovery process, BuzzFeed is attempting to verify claims in the dossier that relate to the hacking of the DNC," said BuzzFeed spokesman Matt Mittenhal in a statement. "We're asking a federal court to force the DNC to follow the law and allow BuzzFeed to fully defend its First Amendment rights."

Last month, the DNC claimed that providing the requested information would expose the DNC's internal operations and harm the party politically (it's always someone else's fault, no?).

"If these documents were disclosed, the DNC's internal operations, as well as its ability to effectively achieve its political goals, would be harmed ," said DNC lawyers.

If the DNC is compelled to turn over the full CrowdStrike report and "digital remnants," perhaps Gubarev would then present a counter-analysis by researcher Forensicator which CrowdStrike apparently "missed" - revealing that the DNC files were copied at 22.6 MB/s - all but confirming that the files had to have been copied locally by an inside source. Many have speculated that DNC IT staffer Seth Rich, whose murder is still unsolved, was the source of the emails provided to WikiLeaks.

Word of BuzzFeed's suit against the DNC comes on the heels of a Monday revelation that the news outlet hired a former top FBI and White House cybersecurity official to fly around the globe on a secret mission to corroborate various claims in the dossier.

The probe is being conducted by Anthony Ferrante - formerly the FBI's top official in charge of "cyber incident response" at the U.S. National Security Council under the Obama administration. Ferrante is leading the investigation from his new employer, D.C.-based business advisory firm, Forensic Technologies International (FTI) consulting reports Foreign Policy .

At FTI, Ferrante launched what's now been a months-long stealth effort chasing down documents and conducting interviews on the ground in various countries around the world. His team directed BuzzFeed lawyers to subpoena specific data and testimony from dozens of agencies or companies across the country and assembled a cyber ops war room to analyze that dat a, according to sources familiar with the work.

Considering that much of the Steele dossier came from a collaboration with high level Kremlin officials (a collusion if you will), one has to wonder exactly what channels Ferrante and FTI have tapped in order to access such information.

Wouldn't it be funny if BuzzFeed proves the DNC wasn't hacked?

[Feb 09, 2018] Sic Semper Tyrannis Syria Notes - 5 February 2018

Notable quotes:
"... Amazing how no on in the echelons of U.S. leadership ever questions why Assad always launches his WMD attacks as soon as his forces have Syria's Al Qaeda affiliate on the run. ..."
"... I am hearing that Russia has temporarily banned Turkish aircraft from flying in Syrian airspace, including Afrin. Plus there are reports that the Syrian Armed Forces are stationing AAA and SAM systems in the north. Erdogan may have outlived his usefulness to Putin. ..."
"... My SWAG is that Haley knows she is lying and does not care. Right now the Deep State wants its war on Syria as a prelude to a war on Iran, so Haley is for war as long as that will advance her career. ..."
"... If tomorrow the Deep State were to declare for the Khmer Rouge, she would scream for the death of Lon Nol Imperialists and Enemies of the People(R) with the most touching sincerity. ..."
"... 'Between May and June, 2016, Sheldon Adelson contributed $250,000 to Haley's 527 political organization, A Great Day, funds that she used to target four Republican state senate rivals in primaries. Adelson was the largest contributor to her group, which raised a total of $915,000.' ..."
"... I don't understand why we think Nikki Haley shouldn't be who she is, and should pursue policies other than what she does. IMO, she is no different than Samantha Power. They both are/were equally anti-Russia, anti-Iran, anti-Syria, and pro-Israel pro KSA, and have same position with regard to NK or China, so what is the difference, what has changed. ..."
"... It would have been either the "F* Europe" Tonia Nuland or the rapporteur social worker to Israel Wendy Sherman who is stilllearning all the dirty tricks from Madeleine. ..."
"... I agree with the good Colonel's assessment, except on one point. I don't think Mattis is being biased; to put it in less kinder terms, I think he's being a willing political hack. ..."
Feb 09, 2018 | turcopolier.typepad.com

1. Nikki Haley is either completely gullible or is in thrall to some collection of Borgists at State. Someone remarked of a previous US Secretary of State that "if only he were still alive this would not happen." Unfortunately he was still alive and in office. Much the same could be said of Rex Tillerson. Haley is now tub thumping for US air attacks on Syria. This a reprise of several previous US assertions of Syrian Arab Government (SAG) use of chemical weapons including the East Ghouta and Khan Sheikhoun fiascos. After Khan Sheikhoun the SAG invited US and UN investigations of the air base but somehow this was not accepted. Now James Mattis is asserting that the SAG is manufacturing chemical munitions although the US has no evidence of this as yet. I believe this is called "confirmation bias?"

2. As shown above , the SAA is committed to elimination of the East Idlib pocket. The jihadis are without re-supply and will progressively be running out of the means of resistance. This should not take too long and is actually a good idea before proceeding further into Idlib Province to the west. I believe I expressed an opinion as to the wisdom of such a move.

3. The SAA has begun shelling the Turkish strong point (observation post) at Al-Eis. The Turks have been attempting tricky cleverness by claiming that they are occupying the hill at Al--Eis un accord with a Russian/Iranian/Turkish de-escalation igreement. In fact IMO they are seeking to position themselves so as to impede SAG liberation of Idlib Province. pl


Christian Chuba,

Amazing how no on in the echelons of U.S. leadership ever questions why Assad always launches his WMD attacks as soon as his forces have Syria's Al Qaeda affiliate on the run.
kooshy,
Colonel Lang, did you see this news on AMN, "Syrian Army allows massive YPG convoy to travel to Afrin from their lines' God only knows what is going on in Syria? it's a mess, was that to stop the Turks going to Al Eis.
james said in reply to kooshy... ,
and further to that - this also from AMN -

"BEIRUT, LEBANON (7:53 P.M.) – The Syrian Arab Army or allied paramilitary groups or both have reportedly started shelling the freshly established positions of Turkish forces in the southern countryside of Aleppo province according to both opposition and pro-government sources.

Opposition sources says that Syrian Army and allied Iranian-linked paramilitary groups have unleashed artillery fire onto recently established positions of the Turkish Army in the strategic Al-Eis area of southern Aleppo province."

confusedponderer , 06 February 2018 at 01:43 AM
Re Haley & in thrall of Borgists.

It seems she is attracted by John Bolton, her destructive, cunning and IMO rather malicious hard core neocon predecessor. She twittered this insight in July 2017:

"Great to see @AmbJohnBolton back @USUN. Thanks to his years of public service to our country, he continues to share great advice & wisdom."

His great advice and great wisdom? Ah yes ...

I had the pleasure that an indian senior (20+ years of service) UN guy back then did explain me what he did when US ambassador at the UN, and how and why it was cunning what he did, and how and why it was destructive and what he was after. It turned my stomach to get it explained to clearly.

So, unlike Haley, I always thought Bolton was a ruthless, destructive, nutty, if cunning, nasty man. I never seen his "wisdom". Rather I saw an arsonist who likes to play with fire.

For Haley he, with all his "wisdom", is an inspiration. He was also inspirational for Trump, but not inspirational enough.

Bolton didn't make it to Secretary of State ... because of his moustache. See? How very maverick-ish to make a difficult decision on so simple grounds.

Ah well, perhaps Trump is daily being too savaged by his hair thing on his head. I assume that having to face mirrors likely can be a terror.

Whatever about that moustache, and assuming that the story is correct - I for my part don't see the problem in what is over Bolton's mouth but that what comes out of it.

Donald Trump passed over a potential candidate for Secretary of State because of bushy moustache, according to insiders close to the incoming US President.

Several of Mr Trump's associates said they thought that John Bolton's brush-like moustache was one of the factors that handicapped the bombastic former United Nations ambassador in the sweepstakes for the role.

"Donald was not going to like that moustache," said one, who spoke on condition of anonymity. "I can't think of anyone that's really close to Donald that has a beard that he likes."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-secretary-of-state-reject-john-bolton-moustache-transition-president-elect-cabinet-a7489576.html

JW said in reply to kooshy... , 06 February 2018 at 06:36 AM
Whats going on ? Iran wants influence and bases as far as the sea, to enable it to convince the Israelis to emigrate en masse. The West want to stop them now, everyone except Hezbollah will want to stop them when the last FSA / AQ /etc have almost died off, and Erdogan want to continue mugging people as a form of foreign policy.

Run those actions simultaneously and you have the current outcome.

A. Pols , 06 February 2018 at 08:14 AM
"1. Nikki Haley is either completely gullible or is in thrall to some collection of Borgists at State."

Both

JPB , 06 February 2018 at 10:18 AM
I am hearing that Russia has temporarily banned Turkish aircraft from flying in Syrian airspace, including Afrin. Plus there are reports that the Syrian Armed Forces are stationing AAA and SAM systems in the north. Erdogan may have outlived his usefulness to Putin.
JPB said in reply to Stonevendor ... , 06 February 2018 at 10:43 AM
Stonevendor -

A small number of US and troops from other coalition countries have been in the Manbij area since August 2016 when it was liberated from the headchoppers. More were sent in 2017 when TFSA from the Euphrates Shield enclave started threatening Manbij. No secret there, it has been previously announced publicly.

Barbara Ann -> ToivoS... , 06 February 2018 at 10:46 AM
I have happily discovered an analyst who has consistently been right on many aspects of the way the Syrian conflict has played out, despite its manifold complexities. If you find one that claims to be able to "see" ahead, I'd suggest he/she may better be described as a clairvoyant.

As to things being "fixed" - I guess an expectation that such a state is attainable, or indeed desirable - betrays something of one's ontological preferences. In any case, Syria appears to me to be an object lesson in the futility of such expectations.

Balint Somkuti, PhD , 06 February 2018 at 11:02 AM
Even though I have my own reservations about US benevolence about Syria, what happens if primus enter pares goes running amok?
Sid Finster , 06 February 2018 at 12:00 PM
My SWAG is that Haley knows she is lying and does not care. Right now the Deep State wants its war on Syria as a prelude to a war on Iran, so Haley is for war as long as that will advance her career.

If tomorrow the Deep State were to declare for the Khmer Rouge, she would scream for the death of Lon Nol Imperialists and Enemies of the People(R) with the most touching sincerity.

In fact, most of our elected and unelected career politicians exhibit similar levels of mendacity, on a level that is indistinguishable from sociopathy. Just that in Haley it's more shameless and obvious. Maybe she is not as good an actress as some, I don't know.

John_Frank , 06 February 2018 at 01:37 PM
With respect to the allegations surrounding the usage of chemical weapons, yesterday the UN Security Council had an open meeting to discuss the situation in Syria.

The meeting was held to consider a letter submitted by the Secretary General to the Council on February 1 concerning the latest report from the Director General of the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons.

http://undocs.org/S/2018/84

At the beginning of the meeting Izumi Nakamitsu, High Representative for Disarmament Affairs presented her briefing.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/unoda-web/documents/Remarks+of+the+High+Representative+to+Security+Council+on+Syria+-+5+Feb+2018.pdf

In turn, after the meeting the UN press office published the following news release

Proof of chemical weapons use in Syria should be met with 'meaningful response,' UN disarmament chief http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=58533#.WnnRx65Kupo

During the meeting Ambassador Haley spoke. Her remarks have been posted on the US mission to the UN website:

Ambassador Haley Delivers Remarks at a UN Security Council Meeting on Chemical Weapons Use in Syria https://usun.state.gov/highlights/8286

The UN has posted a video of the entire meeting:

The Situation in the Middle East (Syria) - Security Council, 8174th meeting
http://webtv.un.org/watch/the-situation-in-the-middle-east-syria-security-council-8174th-meeting/5726590308001/

The member states were seeking to have the Security Council President issue a statement condemning the recent reports of the usage of chemical weapons in Syria, but they were unable to achieve the needed consensus.

Russia submitted a resolution that would replace the OPCW-United Nations Joint Investigative Mechanism which had been shut down. However the proposal is not acceptable to the United States in its current form for the reasons stated.

Follows is a summary of the meeting as prepared by the UN secretariat:

Amid New Reports of Chemical Weapons Use in Syria, United Nations Top Disarmament Official Says International Community Obliged to Enact Meaningful Response
http://www.un.org/press/en/2018/sc13196.doc.htm

Although not posted yet, ultimately people will be able to read the entire meeting record at https://www.un.org/en/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=S/PV.8174

Ambassador Haley may be pushing for US military action in response to the most recent claims of chemical weapons usage in other forums, but she did not call for such action during the UN Security Council meeting.

As to Defense Secretary Mattis, he spoke to the Press on February 2 at which time he issued a warning and expressed concerns about the usage of Sarin gas.

Media Availability by Secretary Mattis at the Pentagon
https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript-View/Article/1431844/media-availability-by-secretary-mattis-at-the-pentagon/

Q: Can you talk a little bit about the chemical weapons that were -- the State Department was talking about just a little bit yesterday, that mentioned chlorine gas? Is this something you're seeing that's been weaponized or – just give us a sense.

SEC. MATTIS: It has.

Q: It has. Okay.

SEC. MATTIS: It has. We are more -- even more concerned about the possibility of sarin use, the likelihood of sarin use, and we're looking for the evidence. And so that's about all the more I can say about it right now, but we are on the record, and you all have seen how we reacted to that, so they'd be ill-advised to go back to violating the chemical convention.

Then later on during the same press briefing:

"Q: Can I ask a quick follow up, just a clarification on what you'd said earlier about Syria and sarin gas?

SEC. MATTIS: Yeah.

Q: Just make sure I heard you correctly, you're saying you think it's likely they have used it and you're looking for the evidence? Is that what you said?

SEC. MATTIS: That's -- we think that they did not carry out what they said they would do back when -- in the previous administration, when they were caught using it. Obviously they didn't, cause they used it again during our administration.

And that gives us a lot of reason to suspect them. And now we have other reports from the battlefield from people who claim it's been used.

We do not have evidence of it. But we're not refuting them; we're looking for evidence of it. Since clearly we are using -- we are dealing with the Assad regime that has used denial and deceit to hide their outlaw actions, okay?

Q: So the likelihood was not what your -- you're not characterizing it as a likelihood? I thought I used -- you used that word; I guess I misunderstood you.

SEC. MATTIS: Well, there's certainly groups that say they've used it. And so they think there's a likelihood, so we're looking for the evidence.

Q: Is there evidence of chlorine gas weapons used -- evidence of chlorine gas weapons?

SEC. MATTIS: I think that's, yes --

Q: No, I know, I heard you.

SEC. MATTIS: I think it's been used repeatedly. And that's, as you know, a somewhat separate category, which is why I broke out the sarin as another -- yeah.

Q: So there's credible evidence out there that both sarin and chlorine --

SEC. MATTIS: No, I have not got the evidence, not specifically. I don't have the evidence.

What I'm saying is that other -- that groups on the ground, NGOs, fighters on the ground have said that sarin has been used. So we are looking for evidence. I don't have evidence, credible or uncredible."

In that regard three reports from Reuters:

January 30 Exclusive: Tests link Syrian government stockpile to largest sarin attack - sources
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-crisis-chemicalweapons-exclusiv/exclusive-tests-link-syrian-government-stockpile-to-largest-sarin-attack-sources-idUSKBN1FJ0MG

"The Syrian government's chemical weapons stockpile has been linked for the first time by laboratory tests to the largest sarin nerve agent attack of the civil war, diplomats and scientists told Reuters, supporting Western claims that government forces under President Bashar al-Assad were behind the atrocity."

February 1 - U.S. says Syria may be developing new types of chemical weapons https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-mideast-crisis-syria-usa/u-s-says-syria-may-be-developing-new-types-of-chemical-weapons-idUSKBN1FL65L

"The Syrian government may be developing new types of chemical weapons, and U.S. President Donald Trump is prepared to consider further military action if necessary to deter chemical attacks, senior U.S. officials said on Thursday."

As to the Friday media briefing by Secretary Mattis on February 2, Reuters reported:

U.S.' Mattis says concerned about Syria's potential use of sarin gas
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-usa/u-s-mattis-says-concerned-about-syrias-potential-use-of-sarin-gas-idUSKBN1FM1VJ

On Monday, February 5, the Bild, a German outlet published a report alleging that Iran was supplying Syria with missiles to deliver chemical weapons and that some of the materials in the weapons came from Germany. The report analyses missiles with gas canisters allegedly used in a chemical weapons attack in Douma, Damascus on January 22, 2018.

Deutsche Bauteile in Assads Giftgas-Raketen
https://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/headlines/gas-deutsche-teile-54697308.bild.html

The Bild article relies on work carried out by an entity known as Syrians for Truth and Justice and the online investigative journalist website Bellingcat operated by Eliot Higgins.

Also read the following reports posted on the Bellingcat website:

January 23 - Despite Trump's Threats, Chemical Attacks Continue in Syria
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena/2018/01/23/despite-trumps-threats-chemical-attacks-continue-syria/

February 1 - For the Third Time This Year, Chlorine is Used as a Chemical Weapon in Douma, Damascus https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena/2018/02/01/third-time-year-chlorine-used-chemical-weapon-douma-damascus/

February 5 - Images from the January 22nd 2018 Chlorine Attack in Douma, Damascus
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena/2018/02/05/images-january-22nd-2018-chlorine-attack-douma-damascus/

February 5 - More Details of the January 22nd 2018 Chlorine Attack in Douma, Damascus https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena/2018/02/05/details-january-22nd-2018-chlorine-attack-douma-damascus/

Also read the following reports posted by Syrians for Truth and Justice:

August 21, 2017 - Non-Stop Using Chlorine Gas as a Weapon in Syrian Conflict https://stj-sy.com/en/view/185

December 2, 2017 - New Attack by Toxic Gases on a Battlefront in Harasta- Damascus Countryside "Testimonies Confirm Using "Organophosphorus Compounds" https://www.stj-sy.com/en/view/344

January 21, 2018 - Exposure of Six Civilians to Poisonous Substances in Eastern Ghouta- Damascus Countryside https://www.stj-sy.com/en/view/391

February 5, 2018 - Syrian Forces Use Chemical Weapons in Duma for a Second Time in a Month. Joint Report: Bellingcat & Syrians for Truth and Justice https://www.stj-sy.com/en/view/413

(Do not shoot the messenger. As to the Bild report, the summary relies on Google translate, the original article being in German. Since the Bild report relies on work done by Bellingcat and Syrians For Truth and Justice, I have linked to various reports providing details of alleged chemical weapons attacks in Syria since July, 2017 produced by these entities for your reference.)

catherine , 06 February 2018 at 02:43 PM

Re: Nikki Haley

This is all you need to know about Haley and why Trump (or rather Adelson) appointed her to the UN.

'Between May and June, 2016, Sheldon Adelson contributed $250,000 to Haley's 527 political organization, A Great Day, funds that she used to target four Republican state senate rivals in primaries. Adelson was the largest contributor to her group, which raised a total of $915,000.'

(Not coincidentally, however, Sheldon Adelson was the GOP's and Trump's single biggest donor)

"Perhaps Adelson gained an unusual interest in South Carolina's state senate, but it seems more likely the investment was a show of support for Haley's hawkish pro-Israel positions. Adelson, who is also the largest donor to the extreme right-wing Zionist Organization of America (ZOA), has long pushed stridently anti-Iran positions, suggesting in late 2013 that Washington detonate a nuclear weapon in Iran's territory unless Tehran complied with demands that it completely abandon its nuclear program.
And, as Weiss wrote, Haley had come through for Adelson already in 2015, when she signed without any reservation the first law against boycotts of Israel -- about the same time as Adelson convened an anti-BDS summit in Las Vegas.''
https://lobelog.com/nikki-haley-neocon-heartthrob/

DianaLC , 06 February 2018 at 03:00 PM
Thank you. I hear "chemical attack" now and know I need to get away from the Tee Vee and come here instead.
The Beaver , 06 February 2018 at 03:23 PM
Colonel,
Today at House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing :
Former Ambassador Ford:
-If purpose to deter Iran from attacking Israel, perhaps we should have troops in Israel instead of eastern Syria.
-US forces in eastern Syria. Iranians in western Syria. Our forces about 350 miles from Iranians. Not likely Iranians going to leave Syria. Mistake to think Russians will push them out. Hi-level consultations btw us, Israel Jordan to develop menu of options about how to deter.
-when I was US ambassador in Syria in 2007, Iranians were there. Iranians long been there. They don't need a road/land bridge. They fly things into Damascus airport.

Thought he has learnt his lessons, but I must be hoping for too much !

Richardstevenhack , 06 February 2018 at 04:25 PM
Two points:

That the reports of SAA shelling of the Turks comes from "opposition resources" needs no caveat.

That there is also a report claiming that the shelling of the Turks comes from Iranian militia also needs no caveat. Clearly someone wants to blame both the SAA and Iran, which dovetails neatly with the US/Israel desire to "roll back Iran" out of Syria as well as get a full-scale US/NATO/Israel war on Syria started, which has been the goal from Day One of the Syria crisis.

The new rise of "chemical WMD" charges against Syria clearly also feed into the now-confirmed continued desire of the US/Israel for a full-scale air campaign against Syria.

As I believe I've mentioned before, it ain't over until it's over. The US clearly has not given up a desire to go to war with Syria as a precursor to Israel and the US taking out Hizballah (to the degree that is possible) which is also a precursor to starting a war with Iran.

Also, read a report the other day that John Bolton is still considered a candidate for Secretary of State should Tillerson be forced out at some point, which I still think is quite likely. Such an appointment would signal the absolute end of any notion of Trump being interested in rapprochement with Russia and would also guarantee war with Iran.

Because John Bolton is a raving neocon lunatic - which is what the moustache tells you.

kooshy said in reply to catherine... , 06 February 2018 at 05:36 PM
I don't understand why we think Nikki Haley shouldn't be who she is, and should pursue policies other than what she does. IMO, she is no different than Samantha Power. They both are/were equally anti-Russia, anti-Iran, anti-Syria, and pro-Israel pro KSA, and have same position with regard to NK or China, so what is the difference, what has changed.

IMO, they are not selected to pursue US foreign policy, they are only there as Israel'gate keepers, they are just there to make sure nothing against the interests of Israel passes, just like, what just happened in UNSC on Jerusalem. IMO, US for her own policies, doesn't give a damn about UN or UNSC, she does what she wants, and when she wants, and are not shy saying it like it is.

She is there as the Israel' veto power over the rest of the word, in case something not kosher comes up to UNSC. IMO, US' UN ambassadors only job is to protect Israel at UN, they are a retribution from the elected president of US (of either political party0 to Israel lobby for helping them getting elected. If Nikki is a gift for Adelson' money, whoever Hillary would have appointed to UN, would have been a gift to Haim Saban or another billionaire Israeli first SOB. This country' sovereignty has been successfully hijacked in almost 50 years.

Nevertheless, I believe WE the People are the sole responsible party for loss of control, as well as what Nikki does and who she does it for.

John_Frank , 06 February 2018 at 07:00 PM
Earlier today, jihadists backed by Turkey in the Afrin conflict claimed the YPG had used chemical weapons.

https://t.co/vDos2chHTr

In response to these claims, the YPG has issued a statement denying the claim, saying the Turkish military fired artillery shells containing a chemical weapon, which harmed their forces, so they moved to the high ground, while the jihadists remained in the low lying areas, so suffering the consequences.

http://bit.ly/2GQkIgl

Have the Turkish military and the Turkish backed jihadists used chemical weapons in the past in Syria?

Three tweets by @EndiZentarmi

https://twitter.com/EndiZentarmi/status/961005969336688640

Also

https://twitter.com/EndiZentarmi/status/961012542645600256

As well as

https://twitter.com/EndiZentarmi/status/850651337733943297

Along with one tweet by @AzadiRojava:

https://twitter.com/AzadiRojava/status/960962329448976384

In addition, as to the current claim:

https://twitter.com/4rj1n/status/960962657020010497

(The writer is unable to verify the competing claims and is simply posting them for information purposes.)

james said in reply to John_Frank ... , 06 February 2018 at 07:40 PM
john - with respect.. do you understand what a false flag operation is and how often they have been used in the war on syria?
JamesT -> JW... , 06 February 2018 at 11:43 PM
JW

You wrote "everyone except Hezbollah will want to stop [Iran from spreading its influence and bases] ...".

You sir, are wrong. There are a lot of people in the world, and certainly in the Arab world (including Sunnis) who see Iran's influence as a welcome counterweight to the US/UK/Israel. They remember what happened in 1953 and don't buy into what CNN is pushing. I say this based on face to face discussions I have had with Arabs.

John_Frank -> james... , 07 February 2018 at 12:21 PM
Yes and earlier today the OPCW issued the following statement:

OPCW Fact-Finding Mission in Syria Continues Investigations into Allegations of Chemical Weapons Use https://www.opcw.org/news/article/opcw-fact-finding-mission-in-syria-continues-investigations-into-allegations-of-chemical-weapons-use/

The portion relevant for our purposes reads:

"THE HAGUE, Netherlands – 7 February 2018 – Recent allegations about the use of chemical weapons in the Syrian Aran Republic continue to be of grave concern to the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW).

The OPCW Fact-Finding Mission (FFM), whose mandate is "to establish facts surrounding allegations of the use of toxic chemicals for hostile purposes in the Syrian Arab Republic", is investigating all credible allegations and provides regular reports for consideration by States Parties to the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC). A rigorous methodology is employed for conducting an investigation of alleged use of chemical weapons. The FFM report will take into account corroboration between interviewee testimonies; open-source research; medical reports and other relevant documentation as well as the characteristics of any samples obtained by the FFM. The FFM works closely with States Parties including the Government of the Syrian Arab Republic.

The FFM's mandate is to determine whether chemical weapons or toxic chemicals as weapons have been used in Syria; it does not include identifying who is responsible for alleged attacks.

OPCW Director General, Ambassador Ahmet Üzümcü reiterated: "Any use of chemical weapons is a violation of the Chemical Weapons Convention and the hard won international norm prohibiting these weapons. Those responsible for their use must be held accountable. These abhorrent weapons have no place in the world today."

In turn, in my view, the UN Security Council needs to reach an understanding on the re-establishment of a OPCW-United Nations Joint Investigative Mechanism so that those responsible for the use of chemical weapons are brought to account.

The Beaver said in reply to kooshy... , 07 February 2018 at 01:35 PM
whoever Hillary would have appointed to UN, would have been a gift to Haim Saban or another billionaire Israeli first SOB.

It would have been either the "F* Europe" Tonia Nuland or the rapporteur social worker to Israel Wendy Sherman who is stilllearning all the dirty tricks from Madeleine.

james said in reply to John_Frank ... , 07 February 2018 at 01:36 PM
sure... but tell me john, how does the opcw offer any credibility to itself, if it is relying on eyewitnesses in the jihadi held area of Khan Shaykhun???
it is fine for the same countries that have been pushing for regime change in syria to say ''they believe''' syria is responsible, but that is not proof and it really sullies there reputation and the opcw's further as i see it.. al nusra were in control of the area at the time... these are the friendly headchopper crew that turkey seems to have in their backpocket at present and who they are using to further there exercise in afrin.. now, maybe al nusra has had a name change again, so forgive me if i don't have the up to date name for them... for all i know, they are now called the 'syrian democratic forces' or turkish free syrian army - 2 other names that sound straight out of a hollywood script.. if i sound cynical - you are reading me correctly.. the western gov'ts - usa, uk, or even israel, saudi arabia, turkey and france need to stop using international organizations for there own political ends and start being honest brokers in finding peace, as opposed to dividing up sovereign countries like syria.. thanks..
james said in reply to John_Frank ... , 07 February 2018 at 02:00 PM
john - for another example of the blame game that the usa has gotten so in the habit of doing with regard to these chemical weapon attacks - i call them false flags, as that is just what they are to me, take a look at the stupidity coming via the daily press briefing from yesterday... all bluster and bullshit with nothing to substantiate any of it.. is this all the usa is capable of nowadays? see down towards the bottom of the link for the relevant comments on this topic..
https://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2018/02/278014.htm
Greco said in reply to JW... , 07 February 2018 at 02:00 PM
JW, that sounds about right.

I agree with the good Colonel's assessment, except on one point. I don't think Mattis is being biased; to put it in less kinder terms, I think he's being a willing political hack.

[Feb 08, 2018] The Ever-Growing List of ADMITTED False Flag Attacks

Mar 07, 2017 | www.zerohedge.com

In the following instances, officials in the government which carried out the attack (or seriously proposed an attack) admit to it, either orally, in writing, or through photographs or videos:

(1) Japanese troops set off a small explosion on a train track in 1931, and falsely blamed it on China in order to justify an invasion of Manchuria. This is known as the "Mukden Incident" or the "Manchurian Incident". The Tokyo International Military Tribunal found : "Several of the participators in the plan, including Hashimoto [a high-ranking Japanese army officer], have on various occasions admitted their part in the plot and have stated that the object of the 'Incident' was to afford an excuse for the occupation of Manchuria by the Kwantung Army ." And see this , this and this.

(2) A major with the Nazi SS admitted at the Nuremberg trials that – under orders from the chief of the Gestapo – he and some other Nazi operatives faked attacks on their own people and resources which they blamed on the Poles, to justify the invasion of Poland.

(3) The minutes of the high command of the Italian government – subsequently approved by Mussolini himself – admitted that violence on the Greek-Albanian border was carried out by Italians and falsely blamed on the Greeks, as an excuse for Italy's 1940 invasion of Greece.

(4) Nazi general Franz Halder also testified at the Nuremberg trials that Nazi leader Hermann Goering admitted to setting fire to the German parliament building in 1933, and then falsely blaming the communists for the arson.

(5) Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev admitted in writing that the Soviet Union's Red Army shelled the Russian village of Mainila in 1939 – while blaming the attack on Finland – as a basis for launching the "Winter War" against Finland. Russian president Boris Yeltsin agreed that Russia had been the aggressor in the Winter War.

(6) The Russian Parliament, current Russian president Putin and former Soviet leader Gorbachev all admit that Soviet leader Joseph Stalin ordered his secret police to execute 22,000 Polish army officers and civilians in 1940, and then falsely blamed it on the Nazis.

(7) The British government admits that – between 1946 and 1948 – it bombed 5 ships carrying Jews attempting to flee the Holocaust to seek safety in Palestine, set up a fake group called "Defenders of Arab Palestine", and then had the psuedo-group falsely claim responsibility for the bombings (and see this , this and this ).

(8) Israel admits that in 1954, an Israeli terrorist cell operating in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings, including U.S. diplomatic facilities, then left behind "evidence" implicating the Arabs as the culprits (one of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing the Egyptians to identify the bombers, and several of the Israelis later confessed) (and see this and this ).

The U.S. Army does not believe this is an isolated incident. For example, the U.S. Army's School of Advanced Military Studies said of Mossad (Israel's intelligence service):

"Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target U.S. forces and make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act ."

(9) The CIA admits that it hired Iranians in the 1950′s to pose as Communists and stage bombings in Iran in order to turn the country against its democratically-elected prime minister.

(10) The Turkish Prime Minister admitted that the Turkish government carried out the 1955 bombing on a Turkish consulate in Greece – also damaging the nearby birthplace of the founder of modern Turkey – and blamed it on Greece, for the purpose of inciting and justifying anti-Greek violence.

(11) The British Prime Minister admitted to his defense secretary that he and American president Dwight Eisenhower approved a plan in 1957 to carry out attacks in Syria and blame it on the Syrian government as a way to effect regime change.

(12) The former Italian Prime Minister, an Italian judge, and the former head of Italian counterintelligence admit that NATO, with the help of the Pentagon and CIA, carried out terror bombings in Italy and other European countries in the 1950s through the 1980s and blamed the communists, in order to rally people's support for their governments in Europe in their fight against communism .

As one participant in this formerly-secret program stated: "You had to attack civilians, people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple. They were supposed to force these people, the Italian public, to turn to the state to ask for greater security" so that "a state of emergency could be declared, so people would willingly trade part of their freedom for the security" (and see this ) (Italy and other European countries subject to the terror campaign had joined NATO before the bombings occurred). And watch this BBC special . They also allegedly carried out terror attacks in France, Belgium, Denmark, Germany, Greece, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, the UK , and other countries.

The CIA also stressed to the head of the Italian program that Italy needed to use the program to control internal uprisings .

False flag attacks carried out pursuant to this program include – by way of example only:

(13) In 1960, American Senator George Smathers suggested that the U.S. launch "a false attack made on Guantanamo Bay which would give us the excuse of actually fomenting a fight which would then give us the excuse to go in and [overthrow Castro]".

(14) Official State Department documents show that, in 1961, the head of the Joint Chiefs and other high-level officials discussed blowing up a consulate in the Dominican Republic in order to justify an invasion of that country. The plans were not carried out, but they were all discussed as serious proposals.

(15) As admitted by the U.S. government, recently declassified documents show that in 1962, the American Joint Chiefs of Staff signed off on a plan to blow up AMERICAN airplanes (using an elaborate plan involving the switching of airplanes), and also to commit terrorist acts on American soil , and then to blame it on the Cubans in order to justify an invasion of Cuba. See the following ABC news report ; the official documents ; and watch this interview with the former Washington Investigative Producer for ABC's World News Tonight with Peter Jennings.

(16) In 1963, the U.S. Department of Defense wrote a paper promoting attacks on nations within the Organization of American States – such as Trinidad-Tobago or Jamaica – and then falsely blaming them on Cuba.

(17) The U.S. Department of Defense also suggested covertly paying a person in the Castro government to attack the United States: "The only area remaining for consideration then would be to bribe one of Castro's subordinate commanders to initiate an attack on Guantanamo."

(18) A U.S. Congressional committee admitted that – as part of its "Cointelpro" campaign – the FBI had used many provocateurs in the 1950s through 1970s to carry out violent acts and falsely blame them on political activists.

(19) A top Turkish general admitted that Turkish forces burned down a mosque on Cyprus in the 1970s and blamed it on their enemy. He explained : "In Special War, certain acts of sabotage are staged and blamed on the enemy to increase public resistance. We did this on Cyprus; we even burnt down a mosque." In response to the surprised correspondent's incredulous look the general said, "I am giving an example".

(20) A declassified 1973 CIA document reveals a program to train foreign police and troops on how to make booby traps, pretending that they were training them on how to investigate terrorist acts:

The Agency maintains liaison in varying degrees with foreign police/security organizations through its field stations .

[CIA provides training sessions as follows:]

a. Providing trainees with basic knowledge in the uses of commercial and military demolitions and incendiaries as they may be applied in terrorism and industrial sabotage operations.

b. Introducing the trainees to commercially available materials and home laboratory techniques , likely to he used in the manufacture of explosives and incendiaries by terrorists or saboteurs.

c. Familiarizing the trainees with the concept of target analysis and operational planning that a saboteur or terrorist must employ.

d. Introducing the trainees to booby trapping devices and techniques giving practical experience with both manufactured and improvised devices through actual fabrication .

***

The program provides the trainees with ample opportunity to develop basic familiarity and use proficiently through handling, preparing and applying the various explosive charges, incendiary agents, terrorist devices and sabotage techniques .

(21) The German government admitted (and see this ) that, in 1978, the German secret service detonated a bomb in the outer wall of a prison and planted "escape tools" on a prisoner – a member of the Red Army Faction – which the secret service wished to frame the bombing on.

(22) A Mossad agent admits that, in 1984, Mossad planted a radio transmitter in Gaddaffi's compound in Tripoli, Libya which broadcast fake terrorist transmissions recorded by Mossad, in order to frame Gaddaffi as a terrorist supporter. Ronald Reagan bombed Libya immediately thereafter.

(23) The South African Truth and Reconciliation Council found that, in 1989, the Civil Cooperation Bureau (a covert branch of the South African Defense Force) approached an explosives expert and asked him "to participate in an operation aimed at discrediting the ANC [the African National Congress] by bombing the police vehicle of the investigating officer into the murder incident", thus framing the ANC for the bombing.

(24) An Algerian diplomat and several officers in the Algerian army admit that, in the 1990s, the Algerian army frequently massacred Algerian civilians and then blamed Islamic militants for the killings (and see this video ; and Agence France-Presse, 9/27/2002, French Court Dismisses Algerian Defamation Suit Against Author).

(25) In 1993, a bomb in Northern Ireland killed 9 civilians. Official documents from the Royal Ulster Constabulary (i.e. the British government) show that the mastermind of the bombing was a British agent, and that the bombing was designed to inflame sectarian tensions. And see this and this .

(26) The United States Army's 1994 publication Special Forces Foreign Internal Defense Tactics Techniques and Procedures for Special Forces – updated in 2004 – recommends employing terrorists and using false flag operations to destabilize leftist regimes in Latin America. False flag terrorist attacks were carried out in Latin America and other regions as part of the CIA's " Dirty Wars ". And see this .

(27) Similarly, a CIA "psychological operations" manual prepared by a CIA contractor for the Nicaraguan Contra rebels noted the value of assassinating someone on your own side to create a "martyr" for the cause. The manual was authenticated by the U.S. government. The manual received so much publicity from Associated Press, Washington Post and other news coverage that – during the 1984 presidential debate – President Reagan was confronted with the following question on national television:

At this moment, we are confronted with the extraordinary story of a CIA guerrilla manual for the anti-Sandinista contras whom we are backing, which advocates not only assassinations of Sandinistas but the hiring of criminals to assassinate the guerrillas we are supporting in order to create martyrs.

(28) A Rwandan government inquiry admitted that the 1994 shootdown and murder of the Rwandan president, who was from the Hutu tribe – a murder blamed by the Hutus on the rival Tutsi tribe, and which led to the massacre of more than 800,000 Tutsis by Hutus – was committed by Hutu soldiers and falsely blamed on the Tutis.

(29) An Indonesian government fact-finding team investigated violent riots which occurred in 1998, and determined that " elements of the military had been involved in the riots, some of which were deliberately provoked ".

(30) Senior Russian Senior military and intelligence officers admit that the KGB blew up Russian apartment buildings in 1999 and falsely blamed it on Chechens, in order to justify an invasion of Chechnya (and see this report and this discussion ).

(31) As reported by the New York Times , BBC and Associated Press , Macedonian officials admit that in 2001, the government murdered 7 innocent immigrants in cold blood and pretended that they were Al Qaeda soldiers attempting to assassinate Macedonian police, in order to join the "war on terror". luring foreign migrants into the country, executing them in a staged gun battle, and then claiming they were a unit backed by Al Qaeda intent on attacking Western embassies". Macedonian authorities had lured the immigrants into the country, and then – after killing them – posed the victims with planted evidence – "bags of uniforms and semiautomatic weapons at their side" – to show Western diplomats.

(32) At the July 2001 G8 Summit in Genoa, Italy, black-clad thugs were videotaped getting out of police cars, and were seen by an Italian MP carrying "iron bars inside the police station". Subsequently, senior police officials in Genoa subsequently admitted that police planted two Molotov cocktails and faked the stabbing of a police officer at the G8 Summit, in order to justify a violent crackdown against protesters.

(33) The U.S. falsely blamed Iraq for playing a role in the 9/11 attacks – as shown by a memo from the defense secretary – as one of the main justifications for launching the Iraq war.

Even after the 9/11 Commission admitted that there was no connection, Dick Cheney said that the evidence is "overwhelming" that al Qaeda had a relationship with Saddam Hussein's regime, that Cheney "probably" had information unavailable to the Commission, and that the media was not 'doing their homework' in reporting such ties. Top U.S. government officials now admit that the Iraq war was really launched for oil not 9/11 or weapons of mass destruction.

Despite previous "lone wolf" claims, many U.S. government officials now say that 9/11 was state-sponsored terror; but Iraq was not the state which backed the hijackers. (Many U.S. officials have alleged that 9/11 was a false flag operation by rogue elements of the U.S. government; but such a claim is beyond the scope of this discussion. The key point is that the U.S. falsely blamed it on Iraq, when it knew Iraq had nothing to do with it.).

(Additionally, the same judge who has shielded the Saudis for any liability for funding 9/11 has awarded a default judgment against Iran for $10.5 billion for carrying out 9/11 even though no one seriously believes that Iran had any part in 9/11.)

(34) Although the FBI now admits that the 2001 anthrax attacks were carried out by one or more U.S. government scientists, a senior FBI official says that the FBI was actually told to blame the Anthrax attacks on Al Qaeda by White House officials (remember what the anthrax letters looked like ). Government officials also confirm that the white House tried to link the anthrax to Iraq as a justification for regime change in that country. And see this .

(35) According to the Washington Post , Indonesian police admit that the Indonesian military killed American teachers in Papua in 2002 and blamed the murders on a Papuan separatist group in order to get that group listed as a terrorist organization.

(36) The well-respected former Indonesian president also admits that the government probably had a role in the Bali bombings.

(37) Police outside of a 2003 European Union summit in Greece were filmed planting Molotov cocktails on a peaceful protester .

(38) In 2003, the U.S. Secretary of Defense admitted that interrogators were authorized to use the following method: "False Flag: Convincing the detainee that individuals from a country other than the United States are interrogating him." While not a traditional false flag attack , this deception could lead to former detainees attacking the country falsely blamed for the interrogation.

(39) Former Department of Justice lawyer John Yoo suggested in 2005 that the US should go on the offensive against al-Qaeda, having "our intelligence agencies create a false terrorist organization . It could have its own websites, recruitment centers, training camps, and fundraising operations. It could launch fake terrorist operations and claim credit for real terrorist strikes, helping to sow confusion within al-Qaeda's ranks, causing operatives to doubt others' identities and to question the validity of communications."

(40) Similarly, in 2005, Professor John Arquilla of the Naval Postgraduate School – a renowned US defense analyst credited with developing the concept of 'netwar' – called for western intelligence services to create new "pseudo gang" terrorist groups , as a way of undermining "real" terror networks. According to Pulitzer-Prize winning journalist Seymour Hersh, Arquilla's 'pseudo-gang' strategy was, Hersh reported, already being implemented by the Pentagon:

"Under Rumsfeld's new approach, I was told, US military operatives would be permitted to pose abroad as corrupt foreign businessmen seeking to buy contraband items that could be used in nuclear-weapons systems. In some cases, according to the Pentagon advisers, local citizens could be recruited and asked to join up with guerrillas or terrorists

The new rules will enable the Special Forces community to set up what it calls 'action teams' in the target countries overseas which can be used to find and eliminate terrorist organizations. 'Do you remember the right-wing execution squads in El Salvador?' the former high-level intelligence official asked me, referring to the military-led gangs that committed atrocities in the early nineteen-eighties. 'We founded them and we financed them,' he said. 'The objective now is to recruit locals in any area we want. And we aren't going to tell Congress about it.' A former military officer, who has knowledge of the Pentagon's commando capabilities, said, 'We're going to be riding with the bad boys.'"

(41) United Press International reported in June 2005:

U.S. intelligence officers are reporting that some of the insurgents in Iraq are using recent-model Beretta 92 pistols, but the pistols seem to have had their serial numbers erased. The numbers do not appear to have been physically removed; the pistols seem to have come off a production line without any serial numbers. Analysts suggest the lack of serial numbers indicates that the weapons were intended for intelligence operations or terrorist cells with substantial government backing. Analysts speculate that these guns are probably from either Mossad or the CIA. Analysts speculate that agent provocateurs may be using the untraceable weapons even as U.S. authorities use insurgent attacks against civilians as evidence of the illegitimacy of the resistance.

(42) In 2005, British soldiers dressed as Arabs were caught by Iraqi police after a shootout against the police. The soldiers apparently possessed explosives , and were accused of attempting to set off bombs . While none of the soldiers admitted that they were carrying out attacks, British soldiers and a column of British tanks stormed the jail they were held in, broke down a wall of the jail, and busted them out . The extreme measures used to free the soldiers – rather than have them face questions and potentially stand trial – could be considered an admission.

(43) Undercover Israeli soldiers admitted in 2005 to throwing stones at other Israeli soldiers so they could blame it on Palestinians, as an excuse to crack down on peaceful protests by the Palestinians.

(44) Quebec police admitted that, in 2007, thugs carrying rocks to a peaceful protest were actually undercover Quebec police officers (and see this ).

(45) A 2008 US Army special operations field manual recommends that the U.S. military use surrogate non-state groups such as "paramilitary forces, individuals, businesses, foreign political organizations, resistant or insurgent organizations, expatriates, transnational terrorism adversaries, disillusioned transnational terrorism members , black marketers, and other social or political 'undesirables.'" The manual specifically acknowledged that U.S. special operations can involve both counterterrorism and "Terrorism" (as well as "transnational criminal activities, including narco-trafficking, illicit arms-dealing, and illegal financial transactions.")

(46) The former Italian Prime Minister, President, and head of Secret Services (Francesco Cossiga) advised the 2008 minister in charge of the police, on how to deal with protests from teachers and students:

He should do what I did when I was Minister of the Interior infiltrate the movement with agents provocateurs inclined to do anything . And after that, with the strength of the gained population consent, beat them for blood and beat for blood also those teachers that incite them. Especially the teachers. Not the elderly, of course, but the girl teachers yes.

(47) An undercover officer admitted that he infiltrated environmental, leftwing and anti-fascist groups in 22 countries. Germany's federal police chief admitted that – while the undercover officer worked for the German police – he acted illegally during a G8 protest in Germany in 2007 and committed arson by setting fire during a subsequent demonstration in Berlin. The undercover officer spent many years living with violent "Black Bloc" anarchists.

(48) Denver police admitted that uniformed officers deployed in 2008 to an area where alleged "anarchists" had planned to wreak havoc outside the Democratic National Convention ended up getting into a melee with two undercover policemen. The uniformed officers didn't know the undercover officers were cops.

(49) At the G20 protests in London in 2009, a British member of parliament saw plain clothes police officers attempting to incite the crowd to violence.

(50) The oversight agency for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police admitted that – at the G20 protests in Toronto in 2010 – undercover police officers were arrested with a group of protesters. Videos and photos (see this and this , for example) show that violent protesters wore very similar boots and other gear as the police, and carried police batons. The Globe and Mail reports that the undercover officers planned the targets for violent attack, and the police failed to stop the attacks.

(51) Egyptian politicians admitted (and see this ) that government employees looted priceless museum artifacts 2011 to try to discredit the protesters.

(52) Austin police admit that 3 officers infiltrated the Occupy protests in that city. Prosecutors admit that one of the undercover officers purchased and constructed illegal "lock boxes" which ended up getting many protesters arrested.

(53) In 2011, a Colombian colonel admitted that he and his soldiers had lured 57 innocent civilians and killed them – after dressing many of them in uniforms – as part of a scheme to claim that Columbia was eradicating left-wing terrorists. And see this .

(54) Rioters who discredited the peaceful protests against the swearing in of the Mexican president in 2012 admitted that they were paid 300 pesos each to destroy everything in their path. According to Wikipedia, photos also show the vandals waiting in groups behind police lines prior to the violence.

(55) A Colombian army colonel has admitted that his unit murdered 57 civilians, then dressed them in uniforms and claimed they were rebels killed in combat.

(56) On November 20, 2014, Mexican agent provocateurs were transported by army vehicles to participate in the 2014 Iguala mass kidnapping protests, as was shown by videos and pictures distributed via social networks.

(57) The highly-respected writer for the Telegraph Ambrose Evans-Pritchard says that the head of Saudi intelligence – Prince Bandar – recently admitted that the Saudi government controls "Chechen" terrorists.

(58) Two members of the Turkish parliament , high-level American sources and others admitted that the Turkish government – a NATO country – carried out the chemical weapons attacks in Syria and falsely blamed them on the Syrian government; and high-ranking Turkish government admitted on tape plans to carry out attacks and blame it on the Syrian government.

(59) The Ukrainian security chief admits that the sniper attacks which started the Ukrainian coup were carried out in order to frame others. Ukrainian officials admit that the Ukrainian snipers fired on both sides, to create maximum chaos.

(60) Burmese government officials admitted that Burma (renamed Myanmar) used false flag attacks against Muslim and Buddhist groups within the country to stir up hatred between the two groups, to prevent democracy from spreading.

(61) Israeli police were again filmed in 2015 dressing up as Arabs and throwing stones, then turning over Palestinian protesters to Israeli soldiers.

(62) Britain's spy agency has admitted (and see this ) that it carries out "digital false flag" attacks on targets, framing people by writing offensive or unlawful material and blaming it on the target.

(63) The CIA has admitted that it uses viruses and malware from Russia and other countries to carry out cyberattacks and blame other countries.

(64) U.S. soldiers have admitted that if they kill innocent Iraqis and Afghanis, they then "drop" automatic weapons near their body so they can pretend they were militants.

(65) Similarly, police frame innocent people for crimes they didn't commit. The practice is so well-known that the New York Times noted in 1981:

In police jargon, a throwdown is a weapon planted on a victim.

Newsweek reported in 1999:

Perez, himself a former [Los Angeles Police Department] cop, was caught stealing eight pounds of cocaine from police evidence lockers. After pleading guilty in September, he bargained for a lighter sentence by telling an appalling story of attempted murder and a "throwdown"–police slang for a weapon planted by cops to make a shooting legally justifiable . Perez said he and his partner, Officer Nino Durden, shot an unarmed 18th Street Gang member named Javier Ovando, then planted a semiautomatic rifle on the unconscious suspect and claimed that Ovando had tried to shoot them during a stakeout.

Wikipedia notes :

As part of his plea bargain, Pérez implicated scores of officers from the Rampart Division's anti-gang unit, describing routinely beating gang members, planting evidence on suspects, falsifying reports and covering up unprovoked shootings .

(As a side note – and while not technically false flag attacks – police have been busted framing innocent people in many other ways , as well.)

(66) A former U.S. intelligence officer recently alleged :

Most terrorists are false flag terrorists or are created by our own security services.

(67) The head and special agent in charge of the FBI's Los Angeles office said that most terror attacks are committed by the CIA and FBI as false flags. Similarly, the director of the National Security Agency under Ronald Reagan – Lt. General William Odom said :

By any measure the US has long used terrorism. In '78-79 the Senate was trying to pass a law against international terrorism – in every version they produced, the lawyers said the US would be in violation.

(audio here ).

(68) The Director of Analytics at the interagency Global Engagement Center housed at the U.S. Department of State, also an adjunct professor at George Mason University, where he teaches the graduate course National Security Challenges in the Department of Information Sciences and Technology, a former branch chief in the CIA's Counterterrorism Center, and an intelligence advisor to the Secretary of Homeland Security (J.D. Maddox) notes :

Provocation is one of the most basic, but confounding, aspects of warfare. Despite its sometimes obvious use, it has succeeded consistently against audiences around the world, for millennia, to compel war . A well-constructed provocation narrative mutes even the most vocal opposition.

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The culmination of a strategic provocation operation invariably reflects a narrative of victimhood: we are the
victims of the enemy's unforgivable atrocities .

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In the case of strategic provocation the deaths of an aggressor's own personnel are a core tactic of the provocation.

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The persistent use of strategic provocation over centuries – and its apparent importance to war planners – begs the question of its likely use by the US and other states in the near term.

(69) Leaders throughout history have acknowledged the "benefits" of of false flags to justify their political agenda:

" Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death".
– Adolph Hitler

"Why of course the people don't want war But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked , and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
– Hermann Goering, Nazi leader.

"The easiest way to gain control of a population is to carry out acts of terror. [The public] will clamor for such laws if their personal security is threatened".
– Josef Stalin

Postscript: The media plays along as well . For example, in 2012, NBC News' chief foreign correspondent, Richard Engel, was kidnapped in Syria. NBC News said that Engel and his reporting team had been abducted by forces affiliated with the Syrian government. He reported that they only escaped when some anti-Syrian government rebels killed some of the pro-government kidnappers.

However, NBC subsequently admitted that this was false. It turns out that they were really kidnapped by people associated with the U.S. backed rebels fighting the Syrian government who wore the clothes of, faked the accent of, scrawled the slogans of, and otherwise falsely impersonated the mannerisms of people associated with the Syrian government. In reality, the group that kidnapped Engel and his crew were affiliated with the U.S.-supported Free Syrian Army , and NBC should have known that it was blaming the wrong party . See the New York Times and the Nation's reporting.

Of course, sometimes atrocities or warmongering are falsely blamed on the enemy as a justification for war when no such event ever occurred . This is sort of like false flag terror without the terror.

For example:

had been checked out -- and debunked -- by U.S. intelligence a year before the President repeated it.

[Jan 28, 2018] Trump, Russia and Israel The Wolff allegations

Jan 28, 2018 | www.defenddemocracy.press

A foreign naval vessel is lumbering in international waters. It is flying a brand new 8'x5' flag, which unmistakably identifies it as a major ally of the country whose coastline is nearest the ship. The ship's markings are ten feet high on both sides. It is not a warship. It is an intelligence-gathering ship. For all intents and purposes, it is defenseless against any warship or attack aircraft, having but four .50-calibre Browning machine guns without shrapnel shields as its only offensive weapons. On board are 286 souls.

Suddenly, and without provocation, the supposed "ally" nation attacks the ship with both warplanes (which were unmarked) and torpedo boats. For over an hour, the helpless ship is riddled with machine-gun fire, rockets, and torpedoes. Within moments, the ship is completely disabled. As it seems certain that the ship will sink, lifeboats are lowered, but the attacking torpedo boats immediately strafe the lifeboats with gunfire. Helicopters from the aggressive country carrying Special Forces troops hover over the ship, which is now listing at nine degrees. Clearly, the attacking country intends that no one survive.

The ship has no engines, no rudder, and no power. As the Special Forces soldiers from the attacking country are being positioned to launch their final assault, the ship's Captain barks, "Standby to repel boarders." One sailor yells, "They've come to finish us off."

The only thing that saves that ship and those survivors that day is eight warplanes from a nearby aircraft carrier that had heard the initial "Mayday" cry from the ship. This caused the attacking country to withdraw. As it was, 34 of the ship's officers and crew are killed and only a divine miracle and superhuman Herculean effort from the sailors in the bowels of that steel graveyard keeps that ship afloat. When the attack first began, one general from the attacking country protested to his commanding officer, saying, "This is pure murder."

But what the country whose ship was attacked and whose men were killed did is most curious. It did NOTHING. In fact, the government of that country immediately declared that the attack had been a "mistake" and then proceeded to completely cover up what had happened. And to this day, the citizens of that country know almost nothing about what took place on that fateful day.

The attacking country in the above case was Israel. The country attacked was the United States. The date was June 8, 1967. And the name of the ship was the USS Liberty.

... ... ...

To tune in and watch the livestream service this Sunday at Liberty Fellowship, including the live first-hand testimony of USS Liberty survivor Ron Kukal, go here: Liberty Fellowship Livestream

Also, I am proud to begin distributing the tell-all book about Israel's attack on the USS Liberty. The book is called "Remember The Liberty!" by Phillip F. Nelson and co-authored by USS Liberty survivors Ernest A. Gallo, Ronald G. Kukal, and Phillip F. Tourney. The foreword is written by ex-CIA analyst Ray McGovern. This book tells the true story of what happened to the USS Liberty and exposes the massive government and media cover-up that followed the attack.

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[Jan 16, 2018] The Russia Explainer

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... Historians will come to view Aug. 8, 2008, as a turning point no less significant than Nov. 9, 1989, when the Berlin Wall fell. Russia's attack on sovereign Georgian territory marked the official return of history, indeed to an almost 19th-century style of great-power competition , complete with virulent nationalisms, battles for resources, struggles over spheres of influence and territory, and even -- though it shocks our 21st-century sensibilities -- the use of military power to obtain geopolitical objectives. ..."
"... Administration officials said Mr. Putin had miscalculated and would pay a cost regardless of what the United States did, pointing to the impact on Russia's currency and markets. "What we see here are distinctly 19th- and 20th-century decisions made by President Putin to address problems," one of the officials said. "What he needs to understand is that in terms of his economy, he lives in the 21st-century world, an interdependent world." ..."
"... The dossier's claim that Putin talked about the "ideals-based international order" also rings false. Putin only ever refers to Western ideals when saying that Western countries' leaders are hypocrites for not adhering to them. ..."
"... The more straightforward explanation is that, knowing that this is opposition research, Steele and his sources provided information that rang true with what the client already believed and would want to hear. This is the first report in the series–in effect, a teaser trailer–and no consultant working on a monthly retainer is going to tell you in the first memo that his services aren't needed. If Steele had indicated that there was no dirt to investigate, the $15,000/mo. (as estimated by Vanity Fair ) contract wouldn't have lasted longer than a month or two. ..."
"... The dossier's use of the phraseology "Trump and his team" and "Trump team" and the like is confusing in reference to the pre-2016 campaign period. Other than his lawyer Michael Cohen, there's nothing I've seen to indicate that the other Trump campaign people mentioned by name in the dossier (Paul Manafort and Carter Page) knew Trump before 2016. By all appearances, the key members of Trump's team before 2016 were his children, and maybe his talent agent. ..."
"... It also seems out of character for Trump to have the foresight and planning that it would take to seek out intelligence on Hillary Clinton several years back. Several years ago, Trump and the Clintons were friends , and the Clintons attended Trump's wedding and Bill and Donald played golf together. ..."
"... Russians are very cautious about what they talk about, even amongst each other. Therefore, with the story about [sexual acts] in the Moscow Ritz Carlton, the idea you have managed to triple source it via an employee at the hotel, a serving FSB [Russian security service] officer, and the security officer at the hotel, who inevitably will be at least a former FSB or GRU [Russian intelligence agency] officer It just doesn't make sense. If such a thing had taken place, it would be a Russian state secret. ..."
"... Seems more likely that it's just a piece of "scuttlebutt" that Steele's sources, pressed to find anything juicy on Trump, saw in the newspaper or in a news search on Google or on Russian search engine Yandex . ..."
"... Whatever the truth of the matter, Page is clearly someone who was very keen to network with powerful Russians in 2016 and was not shy about leveraging his affiliation with the Trump campaign to do it. ..."
"... But at the same time, this would also mean Page was a loose cannon and a huge potential liability to the Trump campaign. Igor Sechin is, and was in July 2016, on the Specially Designated Nationals list of Treasury's Office of Foreign Assets Control. This means that it's a crime for any US citizen to do any business with Sechin personally (though not with Rosneft as a corporate entity). ..."
"... Page, by all appearances, is reckless and kind of an idiot . He had to have known that his activities (even if they were limited to just non-treasonous networking with Russians) carried a huge risk of blowback for Trump. He didn't care. Carter Page's willingness to toe the Russian line on foreign policy, publicly and on the record, goes beyond even what the most Russophile Western expats in Moscow say in private conversations. I think it's a perfectly valid question to ask why and how Carter Page came to be affiliated with the Trump campaign, why he visited Russia alone at least twice in 2016, and what contacts he's had with Russian officials (he definitely met with some of them, at least at the New Economic School graduation reception on Jul. 8, at which there were several senior Russian officials present and Carter Page was commencement speaker and an honored foreign guest). ..."
"... And why send him to give a public university commencement speech in which he rails against US foreign policy, ensuring wide media coverage? ..."
"... A meeting with a Trump adviser on the sidelines of such a noisy, high-profile trip–with both the Russian and foreign press speculating in real-time what the hell Page was doing in Moscow–seems like an extremely incautious setting for a meeting to discuss the most scandalous quid pro quo since the secret protocols to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. ..."
"... To sum up, I have serious doubts that a meeting took place as described. But I also think that Carter Page was–at the very least–trying to leverage his connection to Trump in Russia for personal gain at the very earliest opportunity he got. ..."
"... *This report doesn't have a date. However, the July 19 report is numbered "2016/94" and the July 26 report is numbered "2016/097" so it seems like this is where the report should go. ..."
"... This is the central allegation against the Trump campaign – that there was collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government to take actions aimed at defeating Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election. The one thing that I'd add (or, rather, remind) is that by late July, the story of allegations of Russian meddling in the 2016 election was in full swing . Manafort's history in the former Soviet Union was being widely reported . Carter Page, as mentioned above, had traveled to Moscow for unknown purposes a few weeks before, a trip that was covered in the Russian and US media. ..."
"... What I'd like to point out here -- in terms of the timing of the information in this report -- is that the DNC hacked e-mail dumps on WikiLeaks that led to Debbie Wassermann Schultz resigning as head of the DNC happened on July 22, 2016 , and even before the WikiLeaks dumps the DNC had been attributing the hack to Russia. ..."
"... Since this report refers to the WikiLeaks dump of DNC e-mails that happened on July 22, even though it's undated we know that the report must have been made after that, as well as after the Republican National Convention that happened on July 18, as well as after reports had emerged that the Trump team had been behind a change in the Republican Party platform to remove a reference to providing lethal arms to Ukraine. The allegation made here closely tracks what was being reported in the media at the time. ..."
"... FBI director James Comey made a point of saying that US intelligence services were struck by how unusually noisy the Russians had been in their election interference, as if they wanted to be discovered. ..."
"... *The actual date on the report is "26 July 201 5 " (in the British style), but since it refers to events that happened as recently as June 2016, and based on the news reports that said that Steele was hired in June 2016, I assume this is just a typo. ..."
"... This strains credulity. So there's a single Russian emigre who not only knows the internal mood of the Trump team, but also knows what the Russian leadership is thinking (about a matter that, remember, according to the dossier is top-top secret)? And I know what you're thinking – well, if they were in collusion, of course there's such a person. But who is it? You'd think that there couldn't be too many people who fit this description – being a Russian emigre, close to the Trump campaign, and also with top-level Kremlin access. ..."
"... This is described as someone's opinion so it's hard to argue against or fact-check. I will note that the e-mails from John Podesta's Gmail account started being published by WikiLeaks in October 2016, and since the e-mails run only through March 2016, and given that WikiLeaks usually takes time to prepare for a dump, whoever broke into Podesta's Gmail account was likely very active at the time when this report was dated. If you believe that it was the Russians who broke into Podesta's Gmail account, then this intelligence report is precisely wrong. Eleven days after this report, on August 10, Guccifer 2.0 published the personal contact info of 200 prominent Democrats, so if you believe that Guccifer 2.0 was the alter ego of the Russian government, this intelligence report was precisely wrong. ..."
"... This report is dated precisely one week before Sergei Ivanov was dismissed from his post and moved to a less political role as Putin's special envoy for the environment. If you want to be charitable to the dossier, you could say that this report foreshadows Ivanov's dismissal (later reports say that the dismissal was unexpected). But on the other hand, clearly Ivanov's move to his new position was already in the works on Aug. 5 – it was reported that rumors of the move had been circulating since spring. Why hadn't Steele's "well-placed and established" sources heard those rumors? ..."
"... Peskov is widely considered not to be an independent political player in the Kremlin. He is seen as being a sort of assistant to Putin in addition to his role as spokesman, but someone who likes the spotlight, celebrity and glamour a bit too much. ..."
"... About Turkey: Peskov started his career in the Russian diplomatic corps as a Turkey specialist and worked as the third secretary of the Russian embassy in Ankara in the early '90s. He speaks Turkish. So hearing him mentioned in connection with Turkey makes some sense. ..."
"... Russia was reported to have given advance warning to Erdogan, based on intelligence intercepts, that a coup was being planned. Peskov denied these reports. Just a few weeks earlier, Turkish president Erdogan had apologized to Putin for shooting down a Russian fighter jet on the Turkey-Syria border and Medvedev had announced that Russia would begin lifting the sanctions it had imposed on Turkey in connection with the incident. ..."
"... So in early August 2016 it seemed like Russia-Turkey relations had turned a corner and were being handled quite well – as a matter of fact, over the course of 2016, Turkey went from being the US's partner on Syria to being in a de facto alliance with Russia . The turnaround is stunning – in January 2016 , the US and Turkey were conducting joint operations in Syria, and in January 2017 , Turkey and Russia were conducting joint operations in Syria. Whoever was handling Russia's relationship with Turkey, they did a good job by any objective measure – hard to see how this can be considered "botched." ..."
"... Around this time , there was a lot of speculation in the media about whether Trump would drop out of the race. It's remarkable how the "intelligence" in the dossier follows what was being reported in the news at the time. ..."
"... Ivanov was leading the operation to "hack the US election" literally days before he was fired? That doesn't make sense. ..."
"... This ethnic Russian associate of Trump – who is it? Is it Sergei Millian ? He's supposed to be Source D , a "close associate" of Trump, but he might also be the ethnic Russian (even though Millian is technically from Belarus) associate referred to here and elsewhere. ..."
"... Here we have Carter Page telling the maybe-Millian about his collusion with Russian intelligence on the DNC leaks. Do people really go around confessing crimes willy-nilly? According to this dossier, they do. ..."
"... The big Trump campaign news of August 2016, of course, was that on Aug. 17, Steve Bannon replaced Paul Manafort as head of Trump's campaign. This news was absolutely huge. If Steele's source would have said on Aug. 9 that Bannon would be replacing Manafort, or even that a change of campaign management was being discussed, then in retrospect, you would have to admit that this source was well-informed. But if on Aug. 9, this source was talking about "a rethink and a likely change of tactics," s/he either was not very close to the campaign or was holding back on Steele. ..."
"... So this associate was so close to the campaign that he was privy to all of the team's discussions about collusion with the Russians, but he didn't know that Steve Bannon was about to be named as the new campaign head? ..."
"... But my main beef with this paragraph involves the phrase "kick-back payments to MANAFORT as alleged." Manafort wasn't accused of receiving kickbacks (as I'll explain in a moment, that doesn't make any sense) – he was accused of being paid cash by Yanukovich's political party in an off-the-books scheme, and this was widely covered in the press after the story broke in The New York Times on Aug. 14. ..."
"... That's not a kickback. A kickback is when a government or other organization is offering a contract to an outside contractor, typically in a competitive bid situation, and then when the winner is selected the winner kicks back some of the contract proceeds to the person who manipulated the contract selection process. ..."
"... So if there were kickbacks involved in Manafort's work for Yanukovich, it would've been Manafort kicking back money to Yanukovich, not the other way around. ..."
"... However, what Manafort was actually accused of in the press -- receiving money not properly accounted for under Ukrainian law -- is a crime under American law only if he received income that he didn't report to the IRS, or engaged in money laundering, even if an indisputable "documentary trail" emerges. ..."
"... It is difficult to imagine Putin and his inner circle being fearful of political vulnerability and embarrassment in connection with Manafort. As even Julia Ioffe–a journalist opposed to both Trump and Putin–conceded i n a recent article i n The Atlantic , the political consulting work that Manafort did for Yanukovich and others in the former Soviet Union was hardly unusual. ..."
"... Just to point out – there's a certain implication in the dossier's description of Manafort's work for Yanukovich that this work was "exposed" during the 2016 US election campaign. That's not the case. Manafort just wasn't a household name before 2016, so no one cared. He was just another American political consultant who was more than happy to offer his services to unsavory foreign politicians, like Sandra Bullock's character in "Our Brand is Crisis." ..."
"... Manafort's work for Yanukovich was public knowledge in Ukraine as early as 2005, and was reported actively in the Ukrainian press. By 2016 it was part of Manafort's resume. ..."
"... The report on the Alfa Group (yes, Steele spelled it wrong) is actually the only place in the whole dossier where the dossier was ahead of the mainstream news cycle. The report doesn't give any context for why a special report on the relationship between Putin and Alfa was requested. But on Halloween 2016, the story broke that in Spring and Summer 2016, white-hat hackers had been tracking electronic communications between Trump's e-mail server and an Alfa-Bank (part of Alfa Group) computer in Russia, posting their findings on Reddit – so it was in the public domain but you really had to be paying attention (as apparently a few New York Times journalists and probably the FBI were). I doubt that Steele or his sources were following hacker forums on Reddit. ..."
"... So here's what I think happened: by September, Steele's ultimate client was the Democrats. Someone tipped off the Hillary Clinton campaign (and/or the Clinton-aligned group that was paying Fusion GPS / Orbis) about the electronic link to Alfa, and then Orbis (Steele) got a call asking for an intelligence report on Alfa Group's connections to Putin, without saying why. However, since it was on the phone, the Orbis person heard it as "Alpha Group," and their Russian sources didn't correct the error. ..."
"... Vladimir Putin was deputy mayor of St. Petersburg from 1992 to 1996 . In August 1996 Putin moved from St. Petersburg to Moscow to be Deputy Chief of the Presidential Property Management Directorate (Yeltsin was president at the time, of course). He needed a new job because his boss, St. Petersburg mayor Anatoly Sobchak , lost his re-election bid. ..."
"... Alfa-Bank was a direct competitor to Khodorkovsky's Bank Menatep (a subsidiary of Rosprom) at the time. So there's no way Fridman and Aven used Govorun to deliver cash to Putin when Putin was deputy mayor of St. Petersburg. The dates don't line up. There was an 8-month gap after Putin left St. Petersburg and before Govorun started working at Alfa. ..."
"... How could Steele's sources have made this mistake? Because Govorun's Wikipedia page omits his time at Rosprom, and makes it look like Govorun worked at Alfa-Bank from 1993 to 2000. This is why you don't prepare your report based on Wikipedia, kids! ..."
"... Or if Steele was feeling particularly lazy, he could've gone to Trump's Twitter feed, where Trump proudly told his millions of followers that he'd just spent the weekend with Aras Agalarov and that he wanted to do more business with him. Maybe in Steele's world, being "well-placed" to hear intel about Trump's connections with Russian businesspeople means reading Donald Trump's tweets? ..."
"... There's no other word but "fraud" to describe an "intelligence report" that tries to make it look like the connection between Trump and the Agalarov family is some kind of inside information that you'd need "well-placed sources" to obtain. It took some serious balls for Steele to present it that way, since all anyone would have to do is Google the names mentioned in the report and it would be instantly clear that the intelligence was worthless. ..."
"... Hmm. This is the intelligence that Hillary's people were getting less than one month from Election Day. Intelligence that they paid for. Makes you feel sorry for her; I strongly suspect she was being conned with these reports. ..."
"... In December 2016, Rosneft did indeed sell 19.5% of its shares to two investors using a complicated financing structure. Some have pointed to this as an example where the dossier correctly predicted something would happen. However, the sale of 19.5% of Rosneft to an investor was part of Russia's privatization plan for 2016, which the Russian government announced in December 2015 , and the timeline for the privatization (referring to the 19.5% figure) was updated throughout the year . Anyone who was following Russian business news in 2016 knew that Rosneft was planning to sell 19.5% to an investor that year. ..."
"... Sucks to be Michael Cohen! Unless the dossier is true, he should sue for libel. ..."
"... Sechin is a very big deal in Russia, and a total badass that you don't want to mess with. He is an intimidating guy who is as serious as a heart attack. Carter Page is a dumbass. But the account of this conversation makes it sound like Page was running the meeting like a seasoned pro, leaving Sechin hanging, keeping things vague and noncommittal. I, on the other hand, think that Sechin would never bother meeting with a nobody like Carter Page to discuss something as consequential as billion-dollar oil deals and international relations unless Page had made his bona fides abundantly clear. ..."
"... "Unexpectedly." This looks suspiciously like ass-covering as to why Steele's earlier reports dated mere days before Ivanov's dismissal, containing statements attributed directly to Ivanov, made no mention that these were his last days on the job. ..."
"... Most political observers believed at the time that it was Bernie Sanders, not Russia, who pushed Hillary Clinton away from supporting TPP. This is because Bernie Sanders said openly that he was pressuring Hillary to drop support for TPP. Strangely, the only place where the "veterans' pensions ruse" was ever reported was in the Steele dossier, and the media haven't been tipped off to it to this day. Dodged a bullet! Remember, this is after Putin had supposedly directly ordered all Kremlin insiders, all of whom are tried-and-true Putin loyalists, not to talk about these matters even in private. ..."
"... Steele's team has made the bold decision to misspell Paul Manafort's name as MANNAFORT (Mannafort from heaven?) throughout this report. ..."
"... Gubarev sued BuzzFeed and its editor-in-chief for libel and slander and, lacking any basis other than the dossier itself for these allegations, BuzzFeed blacked out the identifying information. ..."
"... This is quite a cinematic portrayal of hacking. The implication seems to be that there were teams of hackers in a room somewhere and they were ordered to "stand down." Is that how hacking works? Especially in this case, where the hacking that resulted in the 2016 DNC and Podesta leaks had taken place several months before this alleged meeting? This also seems to contradict the declassified US intelligence community findings that said that the hacks were done by Russian government hacker teams called "Cozy Bear" and "Fancy Bear" that were working for the GRU, a Russian intelligence agency that isn't mentioned once in the dossier. The Romanian angle apparently refers t o Guccifer 2.0, who claimed to be Romanian but was also believed to be a Russian intelligence agency alter ego only pretending to be Romanian. If these were Russian government hackers, why would they be ordered to cross international borders and "lay low" in Bulgaria, a member of NATO? ..."
"... Also, given that Russia allegedly had huge wins in their 2016 election meddling, why would they be so stingy as to demand that Trump pay his share for the hacking? Especially if they were so concerned about covering their tracks? This only would implicate the Trump campaign and create a paper trail leading directly to Trump transition team members in the United States, plus they would be involving themselves in a criminal conspiracy to violate US money laundering laws, RICO and the like. ..."
Apr 04, 2017 | russiaexplainer.com

THE DOSSIER

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[Jan 02, 2018] False flag attacks using sharpshooters as a standard instrument of color revolutions

Notable quotes:
"... Andrew Bacevich needs to study more deeply about Syrian history and politics, since his description of Syrian president Bashar Assad as a brutal dictator fits as a description of Bashar's father Hafez Assad but is inaccurate in relation to Bashar Assad, who seems to have a rather gentle personality and is actually one of the more benign leaders in the Middle East. ..."
"... Under that new constitution, in 2014 he ran in a free election observed by international observers against two other politicians and was reelected president. He has promised that if he loses the next election he will step down. ..."
"... Nevertheless Assad has been systematically demonized by the governments and MSM of the US, UK, and France, as well as by Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar. Demonization is a technique that is often used to prepare the way for regime change, and it is not based on objective analysis. ..."
"... Similar tactics were used in Ukraine in February 2014 by ultranationalist Right Sector sharpshooters, who were seen shooting Maidan demonstrators. The deaths of the demonstrators were then blamed on the police. ..."
"... "'From the start the protest movements were not purely peaceful. From the start I saw armed demonstrators marching along in the protests, who began to shoot at the police first. Very often the violence of the security forces has been a reaction to the brutal violence of the armed rebels.' ..."
"... opposition is armed and frequently employs brutality and violence, only in order then to blame the government. ..."
"... For an objective overview of the context of the events of 2011 in Syria that led to the international war against the elected Syrian government, see Stephen Gowans, "The Revolutionary Distemper in Syria That Wasn't." ..."
"... Also see Gowans' well-researched 2016 book 'Washington's Long War on Syria.' The US has been demonizing and trying to overthrow the Syrian government for several decades now, above all because it is the only remaining semi-socialist nation in the Middle East and has single-payer national health insurance, support for the elderly, and free college education for all. Assad is no saint, but he is one of the more democratic and forward-looking leaders in the Middle East today. ..."
Jan 02, 2018 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

Gen Dau , , May 8, 2017 at 7:55 pm

Andrew Bacevich needs to study more deeply about Syrian history and politics, since his description of Syrian president Bashar Assad as a brutal dictator fits as a description of Bashar's father Hafez Assad but is inaccurate in relation to Bashar Assad, who seems to have a rather gentle personality and is actually one of the more benign leaders in the Middle East.

Bashar Assad had planned to be a doctor, and he studied medicine for two years in the UK before being ordered to return to Syria by his father after his elder brother died in an accident. Although there were some excesses by the police in 2011, Bashar Assad quickly relaxed some old security laws and pushed for a new democratic constitution, which was promulgated in 2012. Under that new constitution, in 2014 he ran in a free election observed by international observers against two other politicians and was reelected president. He has promised that if he loses the next election he will step down.

Nevertheless Assad has been systematically demonized by the governments and MSM of the US, UK, and France, as well as by Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar. Demonization is a technique that is often used to prepare the way for regime change, and it is not based on objective analysis. Although Assad is often called a butcher who gasses his own people, experts such as Theodore Postol of MIT and others have shown that not a single allegation of gassing by the Syrian government under Assad has ever been proven. In addition, many of the excesses by the Syrian police against demonstrators in 2011 seem to have been initiated by armed members of the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda in Syria, who quickly infiltrated the demonstrations.

There have even been allegations that jihadi sharpshooters on rooftops shot demonstrators in false-flag attacks.

Similar tactics were used in Ukraine in February 2014 by ultranationalist Right Sector sharpshooters, who were seen shooting Maidan demonstrators. The deaths of the demonstrators were then blamed on the police. In the case of Syria:

"Syrian-based Father Frans van der Lugt was the Dutch priest murdered by a gunman in Homs . His involvement in reconciliation and peace activities never stopped him from lobbing criticisms at both sides in this conflict. But in the first year of the crisis, he penned some remarkable observations about the violence – this one in January 2012:

"'From the start the protest movements were not purely peaceful. From the start I saw armed demonstrators marching along in the protests, who began to shoot at the police first. Very often the violence of the security forces has been a reaction to the brutal violence of the armed rebels.'

"In September 2011 he wrote: 'From the start there has been the problem of the armed groups, which are also part of the opposition The opposition of the street is much stronger than any other opposition. And this opposition is armed and frequently employs brutality and violence, only in order then to blame the government. '"

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/157412-syria-hidden-massacre-2011/

For an objective overview of the context of the events of 2011 in Syria that led to the international war against the elected Syrian government, see Stephen Gowans, "The Revolutionary Distemper in Syria That Wasn't."

https://gowans.wordpress.com/2016/10/22/the-revolutionary-distemper-in-syria-that-wasnt/

Also see Gowans' well-researched 2016 book 'Washington's Long War on Syria.' The US has been demonizing and trying to overthrow the Syrian government for several decades now, above all because it is the only remaining semi-socialist nation in the Middle East and has single-payer national health insurance, support for the elderly, and free college education for all. Assad is no saint, but he is one of the more democratic and forward-looking leaders in the Middle East today.

[Dec 28, 2017] How CrowdStrike placed malware in DNC hacked servers by Alex Christoforou

Highly recommended!
If this is true, then this is definitely a sophisticated false flag operation. Was malware Alperovich people injected specifically designed to implicate Russians? In other words Crowdstrike=Fancy Bear
Images removed. For full content please thee the original source
One interesting corollary of this analysis is that installing Crowdstrike software is like inviting a wolf to guard your chicken. If they are so dishonest you take enormous risks. That might be true for some other heavily advertized "intrusion prevention" toolkits. So those criminals who use mistyped popular addresses or buy Google searches to drive lemmings to their site and then flash the screen that they detected a virus on your computer a, please call provided number and for a small amount of money your virus will be removed get a new more sinister life.
I suspected many of such firms (for example ISS which was bought by IBM in 2006) to be scams long ago.
Notable quotes:
"... They found that generally, in a lot of cases, malware developers didn't care to hide the compile times and that while implausible timestamps are used, it's rare that these use dates in the future. It's possible, but unlikely that one sample would have a postdated timestamp to coincide with their visit by mere chance but seems extremely unlikely to happen with two or more samples. Considering the dates of CrowdStrike's activities at the DNC coincide with the compile dates of two out of the three pieces of malware discovered and attributed to APT-28 (the other compiled approximately 2 weeks prior to their visit), the big question is: Did CrowdStrike plant some (or all) of the APT-28 malware? ..."
"... The IP address, according to those articles, was disabled in June 2015, eleven months before the DNC emails were acquired – meaning those IP addresses, in reality, had no involvement in the alleged hacking of the DNC. ..."
"... The fact that two out of three of the Fancy Bear malware samples identified were compiled on dates within the apparent five day period CrowdStrike were apparently at the DNC seems incredibly unlikely to have occurred by mere chance. ..."
"... That all three malware samples were compiled within ten days either side of their visit – makes it clear just how questionable the Fancy Bear malware discoveries were. ..."
Dec 28, 2017 | theduran.com

Of course the DNC did not want to the FBI to investigate its "hacked servers". The plan was well underway to excuse Hillary's pathetic election defeat to Trump, and CrowdStrike would help out by planting evidence to pin on those evil "Russian hackers." Some would call this entire DNC server hack an "insurance policy."

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[Dec 10, 2017] When Washington Cheered the Jihadists Consortiumnews

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... William Roebuck, the American embassy's chargé d'affaires in Damascus, thus urged Washington in 2006 to coordinate with Egypt and Saudi Arabia to encourage Sunni Syrian fears of Shi'ite Iranian proselytizing even though such concerns are "often exaggerated." It was akin to playing up fears of Jewish dominance in the 1930s in coordination with Nazi Germany. ..."
"... A year later, former NATO commander Wesley Clark learned of a classified Defense Department memo stating that U.S. policy was now to "attack and destroy the governments in seven countries in five years," first Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran. (Quote starts at 2:07 .) ..."
"... So the answer was not to oppose the Islamists, but to use them. Even though "the Islamist surge will not be a picnic for the Syrian people," Gambill said, "it has two important silver linings for US interests." One is that the jihadis "are simply more effective fighters than their secular counterparts" thanks to their skill with "suicide bombings and roadside bombs." ..."
"... The other is that a Sunni Islamist victory in Syria will result in "a full-blown strategic defeat" for Iran, thereby putting Washington at least part way toward fulfilling the seven-country demolition job discussed by Wesley Clark. ..."
"... The U.S. would settle with the jihadis only after the jihadis had settled with Assad. The good would ultimately outweigh the bad. This kind of self-centered moral calculus would not have mattered had Gambill only spoken for himself. But he didn't. Rather, he was expressing the viewpoint of Official Washington in general, which is why the ultra-respectable FP ran his piece in the first place. ..."
"... The parallels with the DIA are striking. "The west, gulf countries, and Turkey support the opposition," the intelligence report declared, even though "the Salafist[s], the Muslim Brotherhood, and AQI [i.e. Al Qaeda in Iraq] are the major forces driving the insurgency." ..."
"... ancien régime, ..."
"... With the Saudis footing the bill, the U.S. would exercise untrammeled sway. ..."
"... Has a forecast that ever gone more spectacularly wrong? Syria's Baathist government is hardly blameless in this affair. But thanks largely to the U.S.-backed sectarian offensive, 400,000 Syrians or more have died since Gambill's article appeared, with another 6.1 million displaced and an estimated 4.8 million fleeing abroad. ..."
"... So instead of advancing U.S. policy goals, Gambill helped do the opposite. The Middle East is more explosive than ever while U.S. influence has fallen to sub-basement levels. Iranian influence now extends from the Arabian Sea to the Mediterranean, while the country that now seems to be wobbling out of control is Saudi Arabia where Crown Prince Muhammad bin Salman is lurching from one self-induced crisis to another. The country that Gambill counted on to shore up the status quo turns out to be undermining it. ..."
"... It's not easy to screw things up so badly, but somehow Washington's bloated foreign-policy establishment has done it. Since helping to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, Gambill has moved on to a post at the rightwing Middle East Forum where Daniel Pipes, the group's founder and chief, now inveighs against the same Sunni ethnic cleansing that his employee defended or at least apologized for. ..."
"... The Frozen Republic: How the Constitution Is Paralyzing Democracy ..."
"... I do not believe than anyone in the civil or military command ever believed that arming the jihadists would bring any sort of stability or peace to the region. I do not believe that peace was ever an interest of the US until it has once again gained hegemonic control of central Asia. This is a fight to retain US global domination – causalities do not matter. The US and its partners or co-rulers of the Empire the Saud family and the Zionist oligarchy will slaughter with impunity until someone stops them or their own corruption defeats them. ..."
"... The Empire can not exist without relentless ongoing slaughter it has been at it every day now for 73 years. It worked for them all that time but that time has run out. China has already set the date for when its currency will become fully freely exchanged, less than 5 years. ..."
"... Even the most stupid person on earth couldn't think that the US was using murdering, butchering head choppers in a bid to bring peace and stability to the middle East. The Neocons and the other criminals that infest Washington don't want peace at any price because its bad for business. ..."
"... It's the same GROTESQUE caricature of these wars that the mainstream media always presents: that the U.S. is on the side of good, and fights for good, even though every war INVARIABLY ends up in a bloodbath, with no one caring how many civilians have died, what state the country is left in, that civilian infrastructure and civilians were targeted, let alone whether war could have been prevented. For example, in 1991, shortly after the first Gulf War, Iraqis rose up against their regime, but George H. Bush allowed Saddam to fly his military helicopters (permission was needed due to the no-fly zones), and quell the rebellion in blood – tens of thousands were butchered! Bush said that when he told Iraqis to rebel, he meant the military generals, NOT the Iraqi people themselves. In other words, the U.S. wanted Saddam gone, but the same regime in place. The U.S. never cared about the people! ..."
"... The military-industrial-complex sicced Mueller on Trump because they despise his overtures towards rapprochement with the Kremlin. The military-industrial-complex MUST have a villain to justify the gigantic defense [sic] spending which permeates the entire U.S. politico-economic system. Putin and Russia were always the preferred demon because they easily fit the bill in the minds of an easily brainwashed American public. Of course saber rattling towards Moscow puts the world on the brink of nuclear war, but no matter, the careerism and fat contracts are all that matter to the MIC. Trump's rhetoric about making peace with the Kremlin has always mortified the MIC. ..."
"... This is a rare instance of our elites battling it out behind the scenes, both groups being reprehensible power hungry greed heads and sociopaths, it's hard to tell how this will end. ..."
"... Lets be clear: The military-industrial-complex wants plenty of low intensity conflict to fuel ever more fabulous weapons sales, not a really hot war where all those pretty expensive toys are falling out of the sky in droves. ..."
"... On 24 October 2017, the Intercept released an NSA document unearthed from leaked intelligence files provided by Edward Snowden which reveals that terrorist militants in Syria were under the direct command of foreign governments from the early years of the war which has now claimed half a million lives. ..."
"... The US intelligence memo is evidence of internal US government confirmation of the direct role that both the Saudi and US governments played in fueling attacks on civilians and civilian infrastructure, as well as military targets in pursuit of "regime change" in Syria. ..."
"... Israel's support for terrorist forces in Syria is well established. The Israelis and Saudis coordinate their activities. ..."
"... An August 2012 DIA report (written when the U.S. was monitoring weapons flows from Libya to Syria), said that the opposition in Syria was driven by al Qaeda and other extremist groups: "the Salafist, the Muslim Brotherhood, and AQI are the major forces driving the insurgency in Syria." The "deterioration of the situation" was predicted to have "dire consequences" for Iraq, which included the "grave danger" of a terrorist "Islamic state". Some of the "dire consequences" are blacked out but the DIA warned one such consequence would be the "renewing facilitation of terrorist elements from all over the Arab world entering into Iraqi Arena." ..."
"... The heavily redacted DIA memo specifically mentions "the possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist principality in eastern Syria (Hasaka and Der Zor), and this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime, which is considered the strategic depth of the Shia expansion (Iraq and Iran)." ..."
"... To clarify just who these "supporting powers" were, mentioned in the document who sought the creation of a "Salafist principality," the DIA memo explained: "The West, Gulf countries, and Turkey support the opposition; while Russia, China, and Iran support the regime." ..."
"... The DIA memo clearly indicates when it was decided to transform US, Saudi, and Turkish-backed Al Qaeda affiliates into ISIS: the "Salafist" (Islamic) "principality" (State). NATO member state Turkey has been directly supporting terrorism in Syria, and specifically, supporting ISIS. In 2014, Germany's international broadcaster Deutsche Welle's reported "'IS' supply channels through Turkey." DW exposed fleets of hundreds of trucks a day, passing unchallenged through Turkey's border crossings with Syria, clearly bound for the defacto ISIS capital of Raqqa. Starting in September 2015, Russian airpower in Syria successfully interdicted ISIS supply lines. ..."
"... The usual suspects in Western media launched a relentless propaganda campaign against Russian support for Syria. The Atlantic Council's Bellingcat disinformation operation started working overtime. ..."
"... The propaganda effort culminated in the 4 April 2017 Khan Shaykhun false flag chemical incident in Idlib. Bellingcat's Eliot Higgins and Dan Kaszeta have been paraded by "First Draft" coalition media "partners" in a vigorous effort to somehow implicate the Russians. ..."
"... In a January 2016 interview on Al Jazeera, former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency Michael Flynn admitted that he "paid very close attention" to the August 2012 DIA report predicting the rise of a "declared or undeclared Salafist Principality" in Syria. Flynn even asserts that the White House's sponsoring of terrorists (that would emerge as Al Nusra and ISIS) against the Syrian regime was "a willful decision." ..."
"... Flynn was interviewed by British journalist Mehdi Hasan for Al Jazeera's Head to Head program. Flynn made it clear that the policies that led to the "the rise of the Islamic State, the rise of terrorism" were not merely the result of ignorance or looking the other way, but the result of conscious decision making ..."
"... General Flynn explained to Hersh that 'If the American public saw the intelligence we were producing daily, at the most sensitive level, they would go ballistic.' Hersh's investigative report exposed a kind of intelligence schism between the Pentagon and CIA concerning the covert program in Syria. ..."
"... The article raises a very serious charge. Up till now it appeared that supplying weapons to Al Qaeda affiliates in Syria was just another example of Pentagon incompetence but the suggestion here is that it was a concerted policy and it's hard to believe that there was no one in the Pentagon that was privy to that policy who wouldn't raise an objection. ..."
"... That it conformed with Israeli, Saudi and CIA designs is not surprising, but that there was no dissension within the Pentagon is appalling (or that Obama didn't raise objections). Clark's comment should put him on the hot seat for a congressional investigation but, of course, there is no one in congress to run with it. The policy is so manifestly evil that it seems to dwarf even the reckless ignorance of preceding "interventions". ..."
"... The DIA report released by Gen. Flynn in 2012 predicted the Islamic State with alarm. That is why Flynn was fired as Director of DIA. He objected to the insane policy of supporting the CIA/Saudi madness and saw it as not only counter-productive but disastrous. His comments to AlJazeera in 2016 reinforced this position. Gen Flynn's faction of the American military has been consistent in its opposition to CIA support of terrorist forces. ..."
"... I see Gen. Flynn as a whistleblower. The 2012 report he circulated saw the rise of the Salafist Islamic state with alarm ..."
"... Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, director of the DIA between 2012 and 2014, confirmed that his agency had sent a constant stream of classified warnings to the civilian leadership about the dire consequences of toppling Assad. ..."
"... Thank you. Gen Flynn also urged coordination with Russia against ISIS, so it doesn't take much to see why he was targeted. ..."
"... The use of Islamist proxy warriors to help achieve American geo-political ends goes back to at least 1979, including Afghanistan, Bosnia, Libya, and Syria. One of the better books on 9/11 is Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed's "The War On Truth: 9/11, Disinformation, and the Anatomy of Terrorism". The first section of that book – "The Geopolitics of Terrorism" – covers, across 150 well-sourced pages, the history and background of this involvement. It is highly recommended for anyone who wishes to be better informed on this topic. ..."
"... Jaycee, actually you have to go back much further than that to WW2. Hitler used the marginalized Turkic people in Russia and turned them into effective fighters to create internal factions within the Soviet Union. After Hitler lost and the Cold War began, the US, who had no understanding of the Soviets at the time radicalized and empowered Islamist including the Muslim Brotherhood to weaponize Islam against the Soviet Union. ..."
"... All these western imperial geostrategic planners are certifiably insane and have no business anywhere near the levers of government policy. They are the number one enemy of humanity. If we don't find a way to remove them from power, they may actually succeed in destroying life on Earth. ..."
"... There is a volume of evidence that the war criminals in our midst were arming and training "jihadists." See link below. http://graysinfo.blogspot.ca/2016/10/the-evidence-of-planning-of-wars.html ..."
"... Incompetence and stupidity are their only defense because if anyone acknowledged that trillions of dollars have been made by the usual suspects committing these crimes, the industrialists of war would face a justice symbolized by Nuremberg. ..."
"... The American groupthink rarely allows propaganda and disinformation disturb: endless wars and endless lies and criminality, have not disturbed this mindset. It is clever to manipulate people to think in a way opposite of truth so consistently. All the atrocities by the US have been surrounded by media propaganda and mastery of groupthink techniques go down well. Mention something unusual or real news and you might get heavily criticized for daring to think outside the box and doubt what are (supposedly) "religious truths". Tell a lie long enough and it becomes the truth. ..."
"... The CIA was a key force behind the creation of both al Qaeda and ISIS. Most major incidents of "Islamic Terrorism" have some kind of CIA backing behind them. See this large collection of links for compiled evidence: http://www.pearltrees.com/joshstern/government-supporting/id18814292 ..."
"... This journalist and other journalists writing on some of my favorite Russian propaganda news websites, have reported the US empire routinely makes "deals with the devil", the enemy of my enemy is my friend, if doing so furthers their goal of perpetual war and global hegemony. Yet, inexplicably, these journalists buy the US empire's 911 story without question, in the face of many unanswered questions ..."
"... Bin Laden (CIA staffer) and a handful of his men, all from close allied countries to the US, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt, delivered the 2nd Pearl Harbor on 911. What a timely coincidence! We accept the US Empire provides weapons and military support to the same enemy, and worse, who attacked us on 911, but one is labeled a "conspiracy nut" if they believe that same US Empire would orchestrate 911 to justify their long planned global war. One thing about being a "conspiracy nut", if you live long enough, often you will see your beliefs vindicated ..."
"... So many questions, and so much left unanswered, but don't worry America may run out of money for domestic vital needs but the U.S. always has the money to go fight another war. It's a culture thing, and if you ain't into it then you just don't pay no attention to it. In fact if your life is better off from all of these U.S. led invasions, then your probably not posting any comments here, either. ..."
"... From the October 1973 Yom Kippur War onward, the United States had no foreign policy in the Middle East other than Israel's. Daniel Lazare should read "A clean break: a new strategy for the Realm". ..."
"... For the majority of amoral opportunists of the US, money=power=virtue and they will attack all who disagree. ..."
"... I am stunned that anyone could be so foolish as to think that the US military machine, US imperialism, does things "naively", bumbling like a helpless giant into wars that destroy entire nations with no end in sight. One need not be a "conspiracy theorist" to understand that the Pentagon does not control the world with an ever-expanding war budget equal to the next 10 countries combined, that it does this just because it is stuck on the wrong path. No! US imperialism develops these "big guns" to use them, to overpower, take over and dominate the world for the sake of profits and protection of the right to exploit for private profit. ..."
"... Daniel Pipes, from what I've read of him, is among those who counsel the U.S. government to use its military power to support the losing side in any civil wars fought within Israel's enemy states, so that the wars will continue, sparing Israel the threat of unified enemy states. What normal human beings consider a humanitarian disaster, repeated in Iraq, Syria and Libya, would be reckoned a success according to this way of thinking. The thinking would appear to lead to similar treatment of Iran, with even more catastrophic consequences. ..."
"... I think this pattern of using Salafists for regime change started already in Afghanistan, with Brzezinski plotting with Saudi-Arabia and Pakistan to pay and train Osama bin Laden to attack the pro Russia regime and trying to get the USSR involved in it, also trying to blame the USSR for its agression, like they did in Syri"r? ..."
"... Yes, the Brzezinski/Reagan support of fanatic insurgencies began in AfPak and was revived for the zionists. Russia happened to be on the side more or less tending to progress in both cases, so it had to be opposed. The warmongers are always the US MIC/intel, allied with the anti-American zionist fascists for Mideast wars. ..."
"... Sheldon Adelson, Soros, Saban all wanted carving up of Arabic states into small sectarian pieces (No Nasseric pan-Arabic states, a threat to Israël). And protracted wars of total destruction. Easy. ..."
"... Of course, they were told (by whom?) that the jihadists were 'democratic rebels' and 'freedom fighters' who just wanted to 'bring democracy' to Syria, and get rid of the 'tyrant Assad.' 5 years later, so much of the nonsense about "local councils" and "white helmets" has been exposed for what it was. Yet many 'free thinking' people bought the propaganda. Just like they do on Russiagate. Who needs an "alt-right" when America's "left" is a total disgrace? ..."
Dec 10, 2017 | consortiumnews.com

When a Department of Defense intelligence report about the Syrian rebel movement became public in May 2015, lots of people didn't know what to make of it. After all, what the report said was unthinkable – not only that Al Qaeda had dominated the so-called democratic revolt against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad for years, but that the West continued to support the jihadis regardless, even to the point of backing their goal of creating a Sunni Salafist principality in the eastern deserts.

Journalist James Foley shortly before he was executed by an Islamic State operative in August 2014.

The United States lining up behind Sunni terrorism – how could this be? How could a nice liberal like Barack Obama team up with the same people who had brought down the World Trade Center?

It was impossible, which perhaps explains why the report remained a non-story long after it was released courtesy of a Judicial Watch freedom-of-information lawsuit . The New York Times didn't mention it until six months later while the Washington Post waited more than a year before dismissing it as "loopy" and "relatively unimportant." With ISIS rampaging across much of Syria and Iraq, no one wanted to admit that U.S. attitudes were ever anything other than hostile.

But three years earlier, when the Defense Intelligence Agency was compiling the report, attitudes were different. Jihadis were heroes rather than terrorists, and all the experts agreed that they were a low-risk, high-yield way of removing Assad from office.

After spending five days with a Syrian rebel unit, for instance, New York Times reporter C.J. Chivers wrote that the group "mixes paramilitary discipline, civilian policing, Islamic law, and the harsh demands of necessity with battlefield coldness and outright cunning."

Paul Salem, director of the Carnegie Middle East Center in Beirut, assured the Washington Post that "al Qaeda is a fringe element" among the rebels, while, not to be outdone, the gossip site Buzzfeed published a pin-up of a "ridiculously photogenic" jihadi toting an RPG.

"Hey girl," said the subhead. "Nothing sexier than fighting the oppression of tyranny."

And then there was Foreign Policy, the magazine founded by neocon guru Samuel P. Huntington, which was most enthusiastic of all. Gary Gambill's " Two Cheers for Syrian Islamists ," which ran on the FP web site just a couple of weeks after the DIA report was completed, didn't distort the facts or make stuff up in any obvious way. Nonetheless, it is a classic of U.S. propaganda. Its subhead glibly observed: "So the rebels aren't secular Jeffersonians. As far as America is concerned, it doesn't much matter."

Assessing the Damage

Five years later, it's worth a second look to see how Washington uses self-serving logic to reduce an entire nation to rubble.

First a bit of background. After displacing France and Britain as the region's prime imperial overlord during the 1956 Suez Crisis and then breaking with Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser a few years later, the United States committed itself to the goal of defeating Arab nationalism and Soviet Communism, two sides of the same coin as far as Washington was concerned. Over the next half-century, this would mean steering Egypt to the right with assistance from the Saudis, isolating Libyan strong man Muammar Gaddafi, and doing what it could to undermine the Syrian Baathist regime as well.

William Roebuck, the American embassy's chargé d'affaires in Damascus, thus urged Washington in 2006 to coordinate with Egypt and Saudi Arabia to encourage Sunni Syrian fears of Shi'ite Iranian proselytizing even though such concerns are "often exaggerated." It was akin to playing up fears of Jewish dominance in the 1930s in coordination with Nazi Germany.

A year later, former NATO commander Wesley Clark learned of a classified Defense Department memo stating that U.S. policy was now to "attack and destroy the governments in seven countries in five years," first Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran. (Quote starts at 2:07 .)

Since the United States didn't like what such governments were doing, the solution was to install more pliable ones in their place. Hence Washington's joy when the Arab Spring struck Syria in March 2011 and it appeared that protesters would soon topple the Baathists on their own.

Even when lofty democratic rhetoric gave way to ominous sectarian chants of "Christians to Beirut, Alawites to the coffin," U.S. enthusiasm remained strong. With Sunnis accounting for perhaps 60 percent of the population, strategists figured that there was no way Assad could hold out against religious outrage welling up from below.

Enter Gambill and the FP. The big news, his article began, is that secularists are no longer in command of the burgeoning Syrian rebel movement and that Sunni Islamists are taking the lead instead. As unfortunate as this might seem, he argued that such a development was both unavoidable and far from entirely negative.

"Islamist political ascendancy is inevitable in a majority Sunni Muslim country brutalized for more than four decades by a secular minoritarian dictatorship," he wrote in reference to the Baathists. "Moreover, enormous financial resources are pouring in from the Arab-Islamic world to promote explicitly Islamist resistance to Assad's Alawite-dominated, Iranian-backed regime."

So the answer was not to oppose the Islamists, but to use them. Even though "the Islamist surge will not be a picnic for the Syrian people," Gambill said, "it has two important silver linings for US interests." One is that the jihadis "are simply more effective fighters than their secular counterparts" thanks to their skill with "suicide bombings and roadside bombs."

The other is that a Sunni Islamist victory in Syria will result in "a full-blown strategic defeat" for Iran, thereby putting Washington at least part way toward fulfilling the seven-country demolition job discussed by Wesley Clark.

"So long as Syrian jihadis are committed to fighting Iran and its Arab proxies," the article concluded, "we should quietly root for them – while keeping our distance from a conflict that is going to get very ugly before the smoke clears. There will be plenty of time to tame the beast after Iran's regional hegemonic ambitions have gone down in flames."

Deals with the Devil

The U.S. would settle with the jihadis only after the jihadis had settled with Assad. The good would ultimately outweigh the bad. This kind of self-centered moral calculus would not have mattered had Gambill only spoken for himself. But he didn't. Rather, he was expressing the viewpoint of Official Washington in general, which is why the ultra-respectable FP ran his piece in the first place.The Islamists were something America could employ to their advantage and then throw away like a squeezed lemon. A few Syrians would suffer, but America would win, and that's all that counts.

The parallels with the DIA are striking. "The west, gulf countries, and Turkey support the opposition," the intelligence report declared, even though "the Salafist[s], the Muslim Brotherhood, and AQI [i.e. Al Qaeda in Iraq] are the major forces driving the insurgency."

Where Gambill predicted that "Assad and his minions will likely retreat to northwestern Syria," the DIA speculated that the jihadis might establish "a declared or undeclared Salafist principality" at the other end of the country near cities like Hasaka and Der Zor (also known as Deir ez-Zor).

Where the FP said that the ultimate aim was to roll back Iranian influence and undermine Shi'ite rule, the DIA said that a Salafist principality "is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want in order to isolate the Syrian regime, which is considered the strategic depth of Shia expansion (Iraq and Iran)."

Bottle up the Shi'ites in northwestern Syria, in other words, while encouraging Sunni extremists to establish a base in the east so as to put pressure on Shi'ite-influenced Iraq and Shi'ite-ruled Iran.

As Gambill put it: "Whatever misfortunes Sunni Islamists may visit upon the Syrian people, any government they form will be strategically preferable to the Assad regime, for three reasons: A new government in Damascus will find continuing the alliance with Tehran unthinkable, it won't have to distract Syrians from its minority status with foreign policy adventurism like the ancien régime, and it will be flush with petrodollars from Arab Gulf states (relatively) friendly to Washington."

With the Saudis footing the bill, the U.S. would exercise untrammeled sway.

Disastrous Thinking

Has a forecast that ever gone more spectacularly wrong? Syria's Baathist government is hardly blameless in this affair. But thanks largely to the U.S.-backed sectarian offensive, 400,000 Syrians or more have died since Gambill's article appeared, with another 6.1 million displaced and an estimated 4.8 million fleeing abroad.

U.S.-backed Syrian "moderate" rebels smile as they prepare to behead a 12-year-old boy (left), whose severed head is held aloft triumphantly in a later part of the video. [Screenshot from the YouTube video] War-time destruction totals around $250 billion , according to U.N. estimates, a staggering sum for a country of 18.8 million people where per-capita income prior to the outbreak of violence was under $3,000. From Syria, the specter of sectarian violence has spread across Asia and Africa and into Europe and North America as well. Political leaders throughout the advanced industrial world are still struggling to contain the populist fury that the Middle East refugee crisis, the result of U.S.-instituted regime change, helped set off.

So instead of advancing U.S. policy goals, Gambill helped do the opposite. The Middle East is more explosive than ever while U.S. influence has fallen to sub-basement levels. Iranian influence now extends from the Arabian Sea to the Mediterranean, while the country that now seems to be wobbling out of control is Saudi Arabia where Crown Prince Muhammad bin Salman is lurching from one self-induced crisis to another. The country that Gambill counted on to shore up the status quo turns out to be undermining it.

It's not easy to screw things up so badly, but somehow Washington's bloated foreign-policy establishment has done it. Since helping to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, Gambill has moved on to a post at the rightwing Middle East Forum where Daniel Pipes, the group's founder and chief, now inveighs against the same Sunni ethnic cleansing that his employee defended or at least apologized for.

The forum is particularly well known for its Campus Watch program, which targets academic critics of Israel, Islamists, and – despite Gambill's kind words about "suicide bombings and roadside bombs" – anyone it considers the least bit apologetic about Islamic terrorism.

Double your standard, double the fun. Terrorism, it seems, is only terrorism when others do it to the U.S., not when the U.S. does it to others.

Daniel Lazare is the author of several books including The Frozen Republic: How the Constitution Is Paralyzing Democracy (Harcourt Brace).

Babyl-on , December 8, 2017 at 5:26 pm

I do not believe than anyone in the civil or military command ever believed that arming the jihadists would bring any sort of stability or peace to the region. I do not believe that peace was ever an interest of the US until it has once again gained hegemonic control of central Asia. This is a fight to retain US global domination – causalities do not matter. The US and its partners or co-rulers of the Empire the Saud family and the Zionist oligarchy will slaughter with impunity until someone stops them or their own corruption defeats them.

The Empire can not exist without relentless ongoing slaughter it has been at it every day now for 73 years. It worked for them all that time but that time has run out. China has already set the date for when its currency will become fully freely exchanged, less than 5 years. When that happens the world will return to the gold standard + Bitcoin possibly and US dollar hegemony will end. After that the trillion dollar a year military and the 20 trillion debt take on a different meaning. Before that slaughter non-stop will continue.

john wilson , December 9, 2017 at 6:31 am

Really, Baby-lon, your first short paragraph sums this piece by Lazare perfectly and makes the rest of his blog seem rather pointless. Even the most stupid person on earth couldn't think that the US was using murdering, butchering head choppers in a bid to bring peace and stability to the middle East. The Neocons and the other criminals that infest Washington don't want peace at any price because its bad for business.

Jerald Davidson , December 9, 2017 at 11:53 am

Babyl-on and John Wilson: you have nailed it. The last thing the US (gov't.) wants is peace. War is big business; casualties are of no concern (3 million Koreans died in the Korean War; 3 million Vietnamese in that war; 100's of thousands in Iraq [including Clinton's sanctions] and Afghanistan). The US has used jihadi proxies since the mujahedeen in 1980's Afghanistan and Contras in Nicaragua. To the US (gov't.), a Salafist dictatorship (such as Saudi Arabia) is highly preferable to a secular, nationalist ruler (such as Egypt's Nasser, Libya's Gaddafi, Syria's Assad).
So the cover story of the jjihadi's has changed – first they are freedom fighters, then terrorists. What does not change is that in either case they are pawns of the US (gov't.) goal of hegemony.
(Incidentally, Drew Hunkins must be responding to a different article.)

BannanaBoat , December 9, 2017 at 4:31 pm

Exactly Baby right on, Either USA strategists are extremely ignorant or they are attempting to create chaos, probably both. Perhaps not continuously but surely frequently the USA has promoted war prior to the last 73 years. Native Genocide , Mexican Wars, Spanish War, WWI ( USA banker repayment war)

Richard , December 9, 2017 at 5:24 pm

Exactly Babylon! Looks like consortiumnews is turning into another propaganda rag. Assad was allied with Russia and Iran – that's why the U.S. wanted him removed. Israel said that they would preferred ISIS in power over Assad. The U.S. would have happily wiped out 90% of the population using its terrorist proxies if it thought it could have got what it wanted.

Sam F , December 10, 2017 at 8:50 am

CN tends to make moderate statements so as to communicate with those most in need of them. One must start with the understandings of the audience and show them that the evidence leads further.

Richard , December 10, 2017 at 10:27 am

Sam F, no, it's a DELIBERATE lie in support of U.S. foreign policy. The guy wrote: "the NAIVE belief that jihadist proxies could be used to TRANSFORM THE REGION FOR THE BETTER." It could have been written as: "the stated justification by the president that he wanted to transform the region for the better, even though there are often ulterior motives."

It's the same GROTESQUE caricature of these wars that the mainstream media always presents: that the U.S. is on the side of good, and fights for good, even though every war INVARIABLY ends up in a bloodbath, with no one caring how many civilians have died, what state the country is left in, that civilian infrastructure and civilians were targeted, let alone whether war could have been prevented. For example, in 1991, shortly after the first Gulf War, Iraqis rose up against their regime, but George H. Bush allowed Saddam to fly his military helicopters (permission was needed due to the no-fly zones), and quell the rebellion in blood – tens of thousands were butchered! Bush said that when he told Iraqis to rebel, he meant the military generals, NOT the Iraqi people themselves. In other words, the U.S. wanted Saddam gone, but the same regime in place. The U.S. never cared about the people!

Either Robert Parry or the author wrote that introduction. I suspect Mr Parry – he always portrays the president as having a heart of gold, but, always, sadly, misinformed; being a professional journalist, he knows full well that people often only read the start and end of an article.

Drew Hunkins , December 8, 2017 at 5:31 pm

What we have occurring right now in the United States is a rare divergence of interests within our ruling class. The elites are currently made up of Zionist-militarists. What we're now witnessing is a rare conflict between the two factions. This particular internecine battle has reared its head in the past, the Dubai armaments deal comes to mind off the top of my head.

Trump started the Jerusalem imbroglio because he's concerned about Mueller's witch hunt.

The military-industrial-complex sicced Mueller on Trump because they despise his overtures towards rapprochement with the Kremlin. The military-industrial-complex MUST have a villain to justify the gigantic defense [sic] spending which permeates the entire U.S. politico-economic system. Putin and Russia were always the preferred demon because they easily fit the bill in the minds of an easily brainwashed American public. Of course saber rattling towards Moscow puts the world on the brink of nuclear war, but no matter, the careerism and fat contracts are all that matter to the MIC. Trump's rhetoric about making peace with the Kremlin has always mortified the MIC.

Since Trump's concerned about 1.) Mueller's witch hunt (he definitely should be deeply concerned, this is an out of control prosecutor on mission creep), and 2.) the almost total negative coverage the press has given him over the last two years, he's made a deal with the Zionist Power Configuration; Trump, effectively saying to them: "I'll give you Jerusalem, you use your immense influence in the American mass media to tamp down the relentlessly hostile coverage toward me, and perhaps smear Mueller's witch hunt a bit ".

This is a rare instance of our elites battling it out behind the scenes, both groups being reprehensible power hungry greed heads and sociopaths, it's hard to tell how this will end.

How this all eventually plays out is anyone's guess indeed. Let's just make sure it doesn't end with mushroom clouds over Tehran, Saint Petersburg, Paris, Chicago, London, NYC, Washington and Berlin.

Abe , December 8, 2017 at 7:57 pm

Trump's purported deviation from foreign policy orthodoxy regarding both Russia and Israel was a propaganda scam engineered by the pro-Israel Lobby from the very beginning. As Russia-gate fiction is progressively deconstructed, the Israel-gate reality becomes ever more despicably obvious.

The shamelessly Israel-pandering Trump received the "Liberty Award" for his contributions to US-Israel relations at a 3 February 2015 gala hosted by The Algemeiner Journal, a New York-based newspaper, covering American and international Jewish and Israel-related news.

"We love Israel. We will fight for Israel 100 percent, 1000 percent." VIDEO minutes 2:15-8:06 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiwBwBw7R-U

After the event, Trump did not renew his television contract for The Apprentice, which raised speculation about a Trump bid for the presidency. Trump announced his candidacy in June 2015.

Trump's purported break with GOP orthodoxy, questioning of Israel's commitment to peace, calls for even treatment in Israeli-Palestinian deal-making, and refusal to call for Jerusalem to be Israel's undivided capital, were all stage-managed for the campaign.

Cheap theatrics notwithstanding, the Netanyahu regime in Israel has "1000 percent" support from the Trump regime.

Drew Hunkins , December 8, 2017 at 8:10 pm

If Trump were totally and completely subservient to Netanyahu he would have bombed Damascus to remove Assad and would have bombed Tehran to obliterate Iran. Of course thus far he has done neither. Don't get me wrong, Trump is essentially part and parcel of the Zionist cabal, but I don't quite think he's 1,000% under their thumb (not yet?).

I don't think the Zionist Power Configuration concocted Trump's policy of relative peace with the Kremlin. Yes, the ZPC is extremely powerful in America, but Trump's position of detente with Moscow seemed to be genuine. He caught way too much heat from the mass media for it to be a stunt, it's almost torpedoed his presidency, and may eventually do just that. It was actually one of the very few things Trump got right; peace with Russia, cordial relations with the Kremlin are a no-brainer. A no-brainer to everyone but the military-industrial-complex.

Abe , December 8, 2017 at 10:59 pm

Russian. Missiles. Lets be clear: The military-industrial-complex wants plenty of low intensity conflict to fuel ever more fabulous weapons sales, not a really hot war where all those pretty expensive toys are falling out of the sky in droves.

Whether it was "bird strike" or something more technological that recently grounded the "mighty" Israeli F-35I, it's clear that America isn't eager to have those "Inherent Resolve" jets, so busily not bombing ISIS, painted with Russian SAM radar.

Russia made it clear that Trump's Tomahawk Tweet in April 2017 was not only under totally false pretenses. It had posed a threat to Russian troops and Moscow took extra measures to protect them.

Russian deployment of the advanced S-400 system on the Syrian coast in Latakia also impacts Israel's regional air superiority. The S-400 can track and shoot down targets some 400 kilometers (250 miles) away. That range encompasses half of Israel's airspace, including Ben Gurion International Airport. In addition to surface-to-air missiles installations, Russian aircraft in Syria are equipped with air-to-air missiles. Those weapons are part of an calculus of Israeli aggression in the region.

Of course, there's much more to say about this subject.

WC , December 9, 2017 at 3:44 pm

Here's a good one from Hedges (for what little good it will do). https://www.truthdig.com/articles/zero-hour-palestine/

john wilson , December 9, 2017 at 6:34 am

Surely, Drew, even the brain washed sheep otherwise known as the American public can't seriously believe that their government armed head choppers in a bid to bring peace to the region, can they?

Drew Hunkins , December 9, 2017 at 1:34 pm

Yup Mr. Wilson. It's too much cognitive dissonance for them to process. After all, we're the exceptional nation, the beacon on the hill, the country that ONLY intervenes abroad when there is a 'right to protect!' or it's a 'humanitarian intervention.' As Ken Burns would say: Washington only acts "with good intentions. They're just sometimes misplaced." That's all. The biggest global empire the world has ever seen is completely out of the picture.

mike k , December 8, 2017 at 5:34 pm

When evil people with evil intentions set out to do something in the world, the result is evil. Like Libya, or Iraq, or Syria. Why do I call these people who killed millions for their own selfish greed for power evil? If you have to ask that, then you just don't understand what evil is – and you have a lot of company, because many people believe that evil does not even exist! Such sheeple become the perfect victims of the evil ones, who are destroying our world.

john wilson , December 9, 2017 at 6:36 am

Correction, Mike. The public do believe that evil exists but they sincerely think that Putin and Russia are the evil ones'

mike k , December 9, 2017 at 5:41 pm

One of the ways to avoid recognizing evil is to ascribe it to inappropriate, incorrect sources usually as a result of believing misleading propaganda. Another common maneuver is to deny evil's presence in oneself, and believe it is always "out there". Or one can feel that "evil" is an outmoded religious concept that is only used to hit at those one does not like.

Mild - ly Facetious , December 8, 2017 at 6:22 pm

Oh Jerusalem: Requiem for the two-state solution (Gas masks required)

https://electronicintifada.net/content/oh-jerusalem-requiem-two-state-solution/22521

Abe , December 8, 2017 at 6:24 pm

On 24 October 2017, the Intercept released an NSA document unearthed from leaked intelligence files provided by Edward Snowden which reveals that terrorist militants in Syria were under the direct command of foreign governments from the early years of the war which has now claimed half a million lives.

https://theintercept.com/2017/10/24/syria-rebels-nsa-saudi-prince-assad/

Marked "Top Secret" the NSA memo focuses on events that unfolded outside Damascus in March of 2013.

The US intelligence memo is evidence of internal US government confirmation of the direct role that both the Saudi and US governments played in fueling attacks on civilians and civilian infrastructure, as well as military targets in pursuit of "regime change" in Syria.

Israel's support for terrorist forces in Syria is well established. The Israelis and Saudis coordinate their activities.

Abe , December 8, 2017 at 6:27 pm

An August 2012 DIA report (written when the U.S. was monitoring weapons flows from Libya to Syria), said that the opposition in Syria was driven by al Qaeda and other extremist groups: "the Salafist, the Muslim Brotherhood, and AQI are the major forces driving the insurgency in Syria." The "deterioration of the situation" was predicted to have "dire consequences" for Iraq, which included the "grave danger" of a terrorist "Islamic state". Some of the "dire consequences" are blacked out but the DIA warned one such consequence would be the "renewing facilitation of terrorist elements from all over the Arab world entering into Iraqi Arena."

The heavily redacted DIA memo specifically mentions "the possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist principality in eastern Syria (Hasaka and Der Zor), and this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime, which is considered the strategic depth of the Shia expansion (Iraq and Iran)."

http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Pg.-291-Pgs.-287-293-JW-v-DOD-and-State-14-812-DOD-Release-2015-04-10-final-version11.pdf

To clarify just who these "supporting powers" were, mentioned in the document who sought the creation of a "Salafist principality," the DIA memo explained: "The West, Gulf countries, and Turkey support the opposition; while Russia, China, and Iran support the regime."

The DIA memo clearly indicates when it was decided to transform US, Saudi, and Turkish-backed Al Qaeda affiliates into ISIS: the "Salafist" (Islamic) "principality" (State). NATO member state Turkey has been directly supporting terrorism in Syria, and specifically, supporting ISIS. In 2014, Germany's international broadcaster Deutsche Welle's reported "'IS' supply channels through Turkey." DW exposed fleets of hundreds of trucks a day, passing unchallenged through Turkey's border crossings with Syria, clearly bound for the defacto ISIS capital of Raqqa. Starting in September 2015, Russian airpower in Syria successfully interdicted ISIS supply lines.

The usual suspects in Western media launched a relentless propaganda campaign against Russian support for Syria. The Atlantic Council's Bellingcat disinformation operation started working overtime.

The propaganda effort culminated in the 4 April 2017 Khan Shaykhun false flag chemical incident in Idlib. Bellingcat's Eliot Higgins and Dan Kaszeta have been paraded by "First Draft" coalition media "partners" in a vigorous effort to somehow implicate the Russians.

Abe , December 9, 2017 at 12:26 pm

In a January 2016 interview on Al Jazeera, former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency Michael Flynn admitted that he "paid very close attention" to the August 2012 DIA report predicting the rise of a "declared or undeclared Salafist Principality" in Syria. Flynn even asserts that the White House's sponsoring of terrorists (that would emerge as Al Nusra and ISIS) against the Syrian regime was "a willful decision."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Y274U7QIs

Flynn was interviewed by British journalist Mehdi Hasan for Al Jazeera's Head to Head program. Flynn made it clear that the policies that led to the "the rise of the Islamic State, the rise of terrorism" were not merely the result of ignorance or looking the other way, but the result of conscious decision making:

Hasan: "You are basically saying that even in government at the time you knew these groups were around, you saw this analysis, and you were arguing against it, but who wasn't listening?"

Flynn: "I think the administration."

Hasan: "So the administration turned a blind eye to your analysis?"

Flynn: "I don't know that they turned a blind eye, I think it was a decision. I think it was a willful decision."

Hasan: "A willful decision to support an insurgency that had Salafists, Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood?"

Flynn: "It was a willful decision to do what they're doing."

Holding up a paper copy of the 2012 DIA report declassified through FOIA, Hasan read aloud key passages such as, "there is the possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist principality in Eastern Syria, and this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime."

Rather than downplay the importance of the document and these startling passages, as did the State Department soon after its release, Flynn did the opposite: he confirmed that while acting DIA chief he "paid very close attention" to this report in particular and later added that "the intelligence was very clear."

Lt. Gen. Flynn, speaking safely from retirement, is the highest ranking intelligence official to go on record saying the United States and other state sponsors of rebels in Syria knowingly gave political backing and shipped weapons to Al-Qaeda in order to put pressure on the Syrian regime:

Hasan: "In 2012 the U.S. was helping coordinate arms transfers to those same groups [Salafists, Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qaeda in Iraq], why did you not stop that if you're worried about the rise of quote-unquote Islamic extremists?"

Flynn: "I hate to say it's not my job but that my job was to was to to ensure that the accuracy of our intelligence that was being presented was as good as it could be."

Flynn unambiguously confirmed that the 2012 DIA document served as source material in his own discussions over Syria policy with the White House. Flynn served as Director of Intelligence for Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) during a time when its prime global mission was dismantling Al-Qaeda.

Flynn's admission that the White House was in fact arming and bolstering Al-Qaeda linked groups in Syria is especially shocking given his stature. The Pentagon's former highest ranking intelligence officer in charge of the hunt for Osama bin Laden confessed that the United States directly aided the Al Qaeda terrorist legions of Ayman al-Zawahiri beginning in at least 2012 in Syria.

Abe , December 9, 2017 at 12:44 pm

Mehdi Hasan goes Head to Head with Michael Flynn, former head of the US Defense Intelligence Agency

Full Transcript: http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/headtohead/2016/01/transcript-michael-flynn-160104174144334.html

Abe , December 9, 2017 at 2:11 pm

"Flynn would later tell the New York Times that this 2012 intelligence report in particular was seen at the White House where it was 'disregarded' because it 'didn't meet the narrative' on the war in Syria. He would further confirm to investigative journalist Seymour Hersh that Defense Department (DoD) officials and DIA intelligence in particular, were loudly warning the administration that jihadists were leading the opposition in Syria -- warnings which were met with 'enormous pushback.' Instead of walking back his Al Jazeera comments, General Flynn explained to Hersh that 'If the American public saw the intelligence we were producing daily, at the most sensitive level, they would go ballistic.' Hersh's investigative report exposed a kind of intelligence schism between the Pentagon and CIA concerning the covert program in Syria.

"In a personal exchange on his blog Sic Semper Tyrannis, legendary DoD intelligence officer and former presidential briefer Pat Lang explained [ ] that the DIA memo was used as a 'warning shot across the [administration's] bow.' Lang has elsewhere stated that DIA Director Flynn had 'tried to persuade people in the Obama Administration not to provide assistance to the Nusra group.' It must be remembered that in 2012 what would eventually emerge as distinct 'ISIS' and 'Nusra' (AQ in Syria) groups was at that time a singular entity desiring a unified 'Islamic State.' The nascent ISIS organization (referenced in the memo as 'ISI' or Islamic State in Iraq) was still one among many insurgent groups fighting to topple Assad.

"In fact, only one year after the DIA memo was produced (dated August 12, 2012) a coalition of rebels fighting under the US-backed Revolutionary Military Council of Aleppo were busy celebrating their most strategic victory to date, which served to open an opposition corridor in Northern Syria. The seizure of the Syrian government's Menagh Airbase in August 2013 was only accomplished with the military prowess of fighters identifying themselves in front of cameras and to reporters on the ground as the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham.

"Public embarrassment came for Ambassador to Syria Robert Ford who reluctantly confirmed that in fact, yes, the US-funded and supplied FSA commander on the ground had personally led ISIS and Nusra fighters in the attack (Ford himself was previously filmed alongside the commander). This after the New York Times publicized unambiguous video proof of the fact. Even the future high commander of Islamic State's military operations, Omar al-Shishani, himself played a leading role in the US sponsored FSA operation."

Obama and the DIA 'Islamic State' Memo: What Trump Gets Right
By Brad Hoff
https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2016/07/01/obama-and-the-dia-islamic-state-memo-what-trump-gets-right/

Abe , December 9, 2017 at 3:08 pm

"one first needs to understand what has happened in Syria and other Middle Eastern countries in recent years. The original plan of the US and Saudi Arabia (behind whom stood an invisible Israel) was the overthrow of Bashar al-Assad and his replacement with Islamic fundamentalists or takfiris (Daesh, al-Qaeda, Jabhat al-Nusra).

"The plan involved the following steps:

"It was an ambitious plan, and the Israelis were completely convinced that the United States would provide all the necessary resources to see it through. But the Syrian government has survived thanks to military intervention by Russia, Iran and Hezbollah. Daesh is almost defeated and Iran and Hezbollah are so firmly entrenched in Syria that it has driven the Israelis into a state of fear bordering on panic. Lebanon remains stable, and even the recent attempt by the Saudis to abduct Prime Minister Saad Hariri failed.

"As a result, Saudi Arabia and Israel have developed a new plan: force the US to attack Iran. To this end, the 'axis of good"' (USA-Israel-Saudi Arabia) was created, although this is nothing new. Saudi Arabia and the other Arab States in the Persian Gulf have in the past spoken in favor of intervention in Syria. It is well known that the Saudis invaded Bahrain, are occupying it de facto, and are now at war in Yemen.

"The Israelis will participate in any plan that will finally split the Sunnis and Shiites, turning the region into rubble. It was not by chance that, having failed in Lebanon, they are now trying to do the same in Yemen after the murder of Ali Abdullah Saleh.

"For the Saudis and Israelis, the problem lies in the fact that they have rather weak armed forces; expensive and high-tech, but when it comes to full-scale hostilities, especially against a really strong opponent such as the Iranians or Hezbollah, the 'Israel/Wahhabis' have no chance and they know it, even if they do not admit it. So, one simply needs to think up some kind of plan to force the Shiites to pay a high price.

"So they developed a new plan. Firstly, the goal is now not the defeat of Hezbollah or Iran. For all their rhetoric, the Israelis know that neither they nor especially the Saudis are able to seriously threaten Iran or even Hezbollah. Their plan is much more basic: initiate a serious conflict and then force the US to intervene. Only today, the armed forces of the United States have no way of winning a war with Iran, and this may be a problem. The US military knows this and they are doing everything to tell the neo-cons 'sorry, we just can't.' This is the only reason why a US attack on Iran has not already taken place. From the Israeli point of view this is totally unacceptable and the solution is simple: just force the US to participate in a war they do not really need. As for the Iranians, the Israeli goal of provoking an attack on Iran by the US is not to defeat Iran, but just to bring about destruction – a lot of destruction [ ]

"You would need to be crazy to attack Iran. The problem, however, is that the Saudis and the Israelis are close to this state. And they have proved it many times. So it just remains to hope that Israel and the KSA are 'crazy', but 'not that crazy'."

The Likelihood of War with Iran By Petr Lvov https://journal-neo.org/2017/12/09/the-likelihood-of-war-with-iran/

BobH, December 8, 2017 at 7:13 pm

The article raises a very serious charge. Up till now it appeared that supplying weapons to Al Qaeda affiliates in Syria was just another example of Pentagon incompetence but the suggestion here is that it was a concerted policy and it's hard to believe that there was no one in the Pentagon that was privy to that policy who wouldn't raise an objection.

That it conformed with Israeli, Saudi and CIA designs is not surprising, but that there was no dissension within the Pentagon is appalling (or that Obama didn't raise objections). Clark's comment should put him on the hot seat for a congressional investigation but, of course, there is no one in congress to run with it. The policy is so manifestly evil that it seems to dwarf even the reckless ignorance of preceding "interventions".

Linda Wood , December 8, 2017 at 10:24 pm

There WAS dissension within the Pentagon, not only about being in a coalition with the Gulf States and Turkey in support of terrorist forces, but about allowing ISIS to invade Ramadi, which CENTCOM exposed by making public that US forces watched it happen and did nothing. In addition, CENTCOM and SOCOM publicly opposed switching sides in Yemen.

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/4/17/us-generals-think-saudi-strikes-in-yemen-a-bad-idea.html

A senior commander at Central Command (CENTCOM), speaking on condition of anonymity, scoffed at that argument. "The reason the Saudis didn't inform us of their plans," he said, "is because they knew we would have told them exactly what we think -- that it was a bad idea.

Military sources said that a number of regional special forces officers and officers at U.S. Special Operations Command (SOCOM) argued strenuously against supporting the Saudi-led intervention because the target of the intervention, the Shia Houthi movement -- which has taken over much of Yemen and which Riyadh accuses of being a proxy for Tehran -- has been an effective counter to Al-Qaeda.

The DIA report released by Gen. Flynn in 2012 predicted the Islamic State with alarm. That is why Flynn was fired as Director of DIA. He objected to the insane policy of supporting the CIA/Saudi madness and saw it as not only counter-productive but disastrous. His comments to AlJazeera in 2016 reinforced this position. Gen Flynn's faction of the American military has been consistent in its opposition to CIA support of terrorist forces.

BobH , December 8, 2017 at 10:55 pm

Thanks, I never read anything about it in the MSM (perhaps Aljazeera was an exception?). However, this doesn't explain Gen. Flynn's tight relationship with Turkey's Erdogan who clearly backed the Al Qaeda affiliated rebels to the point of shooting down a Russian jet over Syria.

Sam F , December 10, 2017 at 8:57 am

The fighter shoot-down incident was before Erdogan's reversals in Syria policy.

Linda Wood , December 8, 2017 at 10:28 pm

I see Gen. Flynn as a whistleblower. The 2012 report he circulated saw the rise of the Salafist Islamic state with alarm.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Pg.-291-Pgs.-287-293-JW-v-DOD-and-State-14-812-DOD-Release-2015-04-10-final-version11.pdf

B. THE SALAFIST, THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD, AND AQI ARE THE MAJOR FORCES DRIVING THE INSURGENCY IN SYRIA.

C. THE WEST, GULF COUNTRIES, AND TURKEY SUPPORT THE OPPOSITION; WHILE RUSSIA, CHINA, AND IRAN SUPPORT THE REGIME.

C. IF THE SITUATION UNRAVELS THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF ESTABLISHING A DECLARED OR UNDECLARED SALAFIST PRINCIPALITY IN EASTERN SYRIA (HASAKA AND DER ZOR), AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE SUPPORTING POWERS TO THE OPPOSITION WANT, IN ORDER TO ISOLATE THE SYRIAN REGIME, WHICH IS CONSIDERED THE STRATEGIC DEPTH OF THE SHIA EXPANSION (IRAQ AND IRAN).

D. THE DETERIORATION OF THE SITUATION HAS DIRE CONSEQUENCES ON THE IRAQI SITUATION AND ARE AS FOLLOWS:

–1. THIS CREATES THE IDEAL ATMOSPHERE FOR AQI TO RETURN TO ITS OLD POCKETS IN MOSUL AND RAMADI, AND WILL PROVIDE A RENEWED MOMENTUM UNDER THE PRESUMPTION OF UNIFYING THE JIHAD AMONG SUNNI IRAQ AND SYRIA ISI COULD ALSO DECLARE AN ISLAMIC STATE THROUGH ITS UNION WITH OTHER TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS IN IRAQ AND SYRIA, WHICH WILL CREATE GRAVE DANGER IN REGARDS TO UNIFYING IRAQ AND THE PROTECTION OF ITS TERRITORY

https://geopolitics.co/2015/12/22/dempseys-pentagon-aided-assad-with-military-intelligence-hersh/
London Review of Books Vol. 38 No. 1 · 7 January 2016
Military to Military: US intelligence sharing in the Syrian war
Seymour M. Hersh

Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, director of the DIA between 2012 and 2014, confirmed that his agency had sent a constant stream of classified warnings to the civilian leadership about the dire consequences of toppling Assad. The jihadists, he said, were in control of the opposition. Turkey wasn't doing enough to stop the smuggling of foreign fighters and weapons across the border. 'If the American public saw the intelligence we were producing daily, at the most sensitive level, they would go ballistic,' Flynn told me. 'We understood Isis's long-term strategy and its campaign plans, and we also discussed the fact that Turkey was looking the other way when it came to the growth of the Islamic State inside Syria.' The DIA's reporting, he said, 'got enormous pushback' from the Obama administration. 'I felt that they did not want to hear the truth.'

j. D. D. , December 9, 2017 at 8:33 am

Thank you. Gen Flynn also urged coordination with Russia against ISIS, so it doesn't take much to see why he was targeted. Ironically, the MSM is now going bananas over his support for nuclear power in the region, which he had tied to desalination of sea water, toward alleviating that crucial source of conflict in the area.

Abbybwood , December 9, 2017 at 11:24 pm

I believe Wesley Clark told Amy Goodman that he was handed the classified memo regarding the U.S. overthrowing seven countries in five years starting with Iraq and ending with Iran, in 2001, not 2006. He said it was right after 9/11 when he visited the Pentagon and Joint Chief of Staff's office and was handed the memo.

jaycee , December 8, 2017 at 7:19 pm

The use of Islamist proxy warriors to help achieve American geo-political ends goes back to at least 1979, including Afghanistan, Bosnia, Libya, and Syria. One of the better books on 9/11 is Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed's "The War On Truth: 9/11, Disinformation, and the Anatomy of Terrorism". The first section of that book – "The Geopolitics of Terrorism" – covers, across 150 well-sourced pages, the history and background of this involvement. It is highly recommended for anyone who wishes to be better informed on this topic.

One disturbing common feature across the years have been US sponsored airlifts of Islamist fighters facing defeat, as seen in Afghanistan in late 2001 and just recently in eastern Syria. In 2001, some of those fighters were relocated to North Africa, specifically Mali – the roots of the Islamist insurgency which has destabilized that country over the past few years. Where exactly the ISIS rebels assisted some weeks ago were relocated is yet unknown.

turk151 , December 9, 2017 at 10:03 pm

Jaycee, actually you have to go back much further than that to WW2. Hitler used the marginalized Turkic people in Russia and turned them into effective fighters to create internal factions within the Soviet Union. After Hitler lost and the Cold War began, the US, who had no understanding of the Soviets at the time radicalized and empowered Islamist including the Muslim Brotherhood to weaponize Islam against the Soviet Union.

Hence the birth of the Mujaheddin and Bin Laden, the rest is history.

j. D. D. , December 8, 2017 at 7:57 pm

The article does not support the sub-headline. There is no evidence provided, nor is there any evidence to be found, that Washington's policy in the region was motivated by anything other than geopolitical objectives.

David G , December 9, 2017 at 7:25 am

I think that phrasing may point to the hand of editor Robert Parry. The incredible value of CN notwithstanding, Parry in his own pieces (erroneously in my eyes) maintains a belief that Obama somehow meant well. Hence the imputation of some "naïve" but ultimately benevolent motive on the part of the U.S. genocidaires, as the whole Syria catastrophe got going on Obama's watch.

Anon , December 9, 2017 at 9:14 am

The imputation of naivete works to avoid accusation of a specific strategy without sufficient evidence.

Skip Scott , December 9, 2017 at 9:45 am

Although I am no fan of Obama, and most especially the continuation of the warmongering for his 8 years, he did balk at the "Red line" when he found out he was being set up, and it wasn't Assad who used chemical weapons. I don't think he "meant well" so much as he knew the exact length of his leash. His bragging about going against "The Washington playbook" was of course laughable; just as his whole hopey/changey thing was laughable with Citigroup picking his cabinet.

Stephen , December 9, 2017 at 2:49 pm

Off topic but you can listen to some of Obama's banking handiwork here: https://sputniknews.com/radio_loud_and_clear/201712091059844562-looming-government-shutdown-will-democrats-fight-trumps-pro-rich-plan/ It starts at about minute 28:14. It explains the whole reaction by Obama and Holder to the banking fiasco in my mind. Sorry but I had to get it from the evil Rooski radio program.

Lois Gagnon , December 8, 2017 at 8:41 pm

All these western imperial geostrategic planners are certifiably insane and have no business anywhere near the levers of government policy. They are the number one enemy of humanity. If we don't find a way to remove them from power, they may actually succeed in destroying life on Earth.

Stephen J. , December 8, 2017 at 8:42 pm

There is a volume of evidence that the war criminals in our midst were arming and training "jihadists." See link below. http://graysinfo.blogspot.ca/2016/10/the-evidence-of-planning-of-wars.html

MarkU , December 8, 2017 at 10:00 pm

"Official Washington helped unleash hell on Syria and across the Mideast behind the naïve belief that jihadist proxies could be used to transform the region for the better, explains Daniel Lazare." What a load of old rubbish, naïve belief indeed. it is difficult to believe that anyone could write this stuff with a straight face.

Linda Wood , December 8, 2017 at 10:37 pm

Incompetence and stupidity are their only defense because if anyone acknowledged that trillions of dollars have been made by the usual suspects committing these crimes, the industrialists of war would face a justice symbolized by Nuremberg.

Zachary Smith , December 8, 2017 at 11:37 pm

That Gary Gambill character "outed" himself as a Zionist on September 4 of this year. He appears to have mastered the propaganda associated with the breed. At the link see if you can find any mention of the murders, thefts, ethnic cleansing, or apartheid of his adopted nation. Blaming the victim may be this fellow's specialty. Sample:

The well-intentioned flocked in droves to the belief that Israeli- Palestinian peace was achievable provided Israel made the requisite concessions, and that this would liberate the Arab-Islamic world from a host of other problems allegedly arising from it: bloated military budgets, intolerance of dissent, Islamic extremism, you name it.

Why tackle each of these problems head on when they can be alleviated all at once when Israel is brought to heel? Twenty years later, the Middle East is suffering the consequences of this conspiracy of silence.

Zachary Smith , December 8, 2017 at 11:37 pm

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/The-accidental-Zionist-504221

Gerry , December 9, 2017 at 4:51 am

The American groupthink rarely allows propaganda and disinformation disturb: endless wars and endless lies and criminality, have not disturbed this mindset. It is clever to manipulate people to think in a way opposite of truth so consistently. All the atrocities by the US have been surrounded by media propaganda and mastery of groupthink techniques go down well. Mention something unusual or real news and you might get heavily criticized for daring to think outside the box and doubt what are (supposedly) "religious truths". Tell a lie long enough and it becomes the truth.

It takes courage to go against the flow of course and one can only hope that the Americans are what they think they are: courageous and strong enough to hear their cherished truths smashed, allow the scales before their eyes to fall and practise free speech and free thought.

Theo , December 9, 2017 at 6:35 am

Thanks for this article and many others on this site.In Europe and in Germany you hardly hear,read or see any of these facts and their connections.It seems to be only of marginal interest.

Josh Stern , December 9, 2017 at 6:49 am

The CIA was a key force behind the creation of both al Qaeda and ISIS. Most major incidents of "Islamic Terrorism" have some kind of CIA backing behind them. See this large collection of links for compiled evidence: http://www.pearltrees.com/joshstern/government-supporting/id18814292

triekc , December 9, 2017 at 8:27 am

This journalist and other journalists writing on some of my favorite Russian propaganda news websites, have reported the US empire routinely makes "deals with the devil", the enemy of my enemy is my friend, if doing so furthers their goal of perpetual war and global hegemony. Yet, inexplicably, these journalists buy the US empire's 911 story without question, in the face of many unanswered questions.

Beginning in the 1990's, neocons who would become W's cabinet, wrote detailed plans of military regime change in Middle East, but stating they needed a "strong external shock to the United States -- a latter-day 'Pearl Harbor", to get US sheeple to support increased militarism and global war. Few months after W took office, and had appointed those war mongering neocons to positions of power, Bin Laden (CIA staffer) and a handful of his men, all from close allied countries to the US, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt, delivered the 2nd Pearl Harbor on 911. What a timely coincidence! We accept the US Empire provides weapons and military support to the same enemy, and worse, who attacked us on 911, but one is labeled a "conspiracy nut" if they believe that same US Empire would orchestrate 911 to justify their long planned global war. One thing about being a "conspiracy nut", if you live long enough, often you will see your beliefs vindicated

Joe Tedesky , December 9, 2017 at 11:27 am

You commented on what I was thinking, and that was, 'remember when al Queda was our enemy on 911'? So now that bin Laden is dead, and his al Queda now fights on our side, shouldn't the war be over? And, just for the record who did attack us on 911?

So many questions, and so much left unanswered, but don't worry America may run out of money for domestic vital needs but the U.S. always has the money to go fight another war. It's a culture thing, and if you ain't into it then you just don't pay no attention to it. In fact if your life is better off from all of these U.S. led invasions, then your probably not posting any comments here, either.

Knowing the Pentagon mentality they probably have an 'al Queda combat medal' to pin on the terrorists chest. Sarcasm I know, but seriously is anything not within the realm of believable when it comes to this MIC establishment?

Christene Bartels , December 9, 2017 at 8:53 am

Great article and spot on as far as the author takes it. But the world is hurtling towards Armageddon so I'd like to back things up about one hundred years and get down to brass tacks.

The fact of the matter is, the M.E. has never been at total peace but it has been nothing but one colossal FUBAR since the Ottoman Empire was defeated after WWI and the Allied Forces got their grubby, greedy mitts on its M.E. territories and all of that luscious black gold. First up was the British Empire and France and then it really went nuclear (literally) in 1946 when Truman and the U.S. joined in the fun and decided to figure out how we could carve out that ancient prime piece of real estate and resurrect Israel. By 1948 ..violà ..there she was.

So now here we sit as the hundred year delusion that we knew what the hell we were doing comes crashing down around us. Seriously, whoever the people have been who thought that a country with the historical perspective of a toddler was going to be able to successfully manage and manipulate a region filled with people who are still tribal in perspective and are still holding grudges and settling scores from five thousand years ago were complete and total arrogant morons. Every single one of them. Up to the present moment.

Which gets me down to those brass tacks I alluded to at the beginning of my comment. Delusional crusades lead by arrogant morons always, always, always end up as ash heaps. So, I would suggest we all prepare for that rapidly approaching conclusion accordingly. For me, that means hitting my knees.

Gregory Herr , December 9, 2017 at 1:00 pm

Middle Eastern people are no more "tribal" or prone to holding grudges than any other people. Middle Eastern people have exhibited and practiced peaceful and tolerant living arrangements within several different contexts over the centuries. Iraq had a fairly thriving middle class and the Syrians are a cultured and educated people.

Gregory Herr , December 9, 2017 at 10:07 pm

Syrian society is constructed very much within the construct of close family ties and a sense of a Syrian homeland. It is solely the business of the Syrian people to decide whether the socialist Ba'ath government functions according to their own sense of realities and standards. Some of those realities may include aspects of a necessitated national security state (necessitated by CIA and Israeli subterfuge) that prompts shills to immediately characterize the Assad government as "an authoritarian regime" and of course that's all you need to know. Part of what pisses the West off about the Syrians is that they are so competent, and that includes their intelligence and security services. One of the other parts is the socialist example of government functioning in interests of the general population, not selling out to vultures.

It bothers me that Mr. Lazare wrote: "Syria's Baathist government is hardly blameless in this affair." Really? Well the Syrian government can hardly be blamed for the vile strategy of using terrorist mercenaries to take or destroy a people's homeland–killing horrific numbers of fathers, mothers, and children on the way to establish some kind of Wild West control over Damascus that can then be manipulated for the typical elite deviances. What was purposely planned and visited upon the Syrian people has had human consequences that were known and disregarded by the planners. It has been and continues to be a grave crime against our common humanity that should be raised to the roof of objection! People like Gambill should be excoriated for their crass appraisal of human costs .and for their contrived and twisted rationalizations and deceits. President Assad recently gave an interview to teleSUR that is worth a listen. He talks about human costs with understanding for what he is talking about. Gambill doesn't give a damn.

BASLE , December 9, 2017 at 10:46 am

From the October 1973 Yom Kippur War onward, the United States had no foreign policy in the Middle East other than Israel's. Daniel Lazare should read "A clean break: a new strategy for the Realm".

Sam F , December 10, 2017 at 9:08 am

Yes, Israel is the cut-out or fence for US politicians stealing campaign money from the federal budget. US policy is that of the bribery sources and nothing else. And it believes that to be professional competence. For the majority of amoral opportunists of the US, money=power=virtue and they will attack all who disagree.

Herman , December 9, 2017 at 10:47 am

"Official Washington helped unleash hell on Syria and across the Mideast behind the naïve belief that jihadist proxies could be used to transform the region for the better, explains Daniel Lazare."

Lazare makes the case very well about our amoral foreign policy but I think he errs in saying our aim was to "transform the region for the better." Recent history, going back to Afghanistan shows a very different goal, to defeat our enemies and the enemies of our allies with little concern for the aftermath. Just observing what has happened to the people where we supported extremists is evidence enough.

Peace on Earth, Goodwill toward men. We hope the conscience of our nation is bothered by our behavior but we know that is not true, and we sleep very well, thank you.

Marilyn Vogt-Downey , December 9, 2017 at 11:18 am

I am stunned that anyone could be so foolish as to think that the US military machine, US imperialism, does things "naively", bumbling like a helpless giant into wars that destroy entire nations with no end in sight. One need not be a "conspiracy theorist" to understand that the Pentagon does not control the world with an ever-expanding war budget equal to the next 10 countries combined, that it does this just because it is stuck on the wrong path. No! US imperialism develops these "big guns" to use them, to overpower, take over and dominate the world for the sake of profits and protection of the right to exploit for private profit.

There is ample evidence–see the Brookings Institute study among many others–that the Gulf monarchies–flunkies of US imperialism–who "host" dozens of US military bases in the region, some of them central to US war strategy–initiated and nourished and armed and financed the "jihadi armies" in Syria AND Libya AND elsewhere; they did not do this on their own. The US government–the executive committee of the US ruling class–does not naively support the Gulf monarchies because it doesn't know any better! Washington (following British imperialism) organized, established and backed these flunky regimes. They are autocratic, antediluvian regimes, allowing virtually civil rights, with no local proletariat to speak of, no popular base. They are no more than sheriffs for imperialism in that region of the world, along with the Zionist state of Israel, helping imperialism do the really dirty work.

I research this and gathered the evidence to support what I just asserted in a long study printed back in Dec. 2015 in Truthout. Here is the link: http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/34151-what-is-the-war-on-terror-and-how-to-fight-it

Look at the evidence. Stop the totally foolish assessment that the US government spends all this money on a war machine just to "naively" blunder into wars that level entire nations–and is not taking on destruction of the entire continent of Africa to eliminate any obstacles to its domination.

No! That is foolish and destructive. Unless we look in the face what is going on–the US government since its "secret" intervention in Afghanistan in the 1970s and 1980s, has recruited, trained, armed, funded and relied on jihadi armies to unseat regimes and destabilize and destroy populations and regimes the US government wants to overthrow, and destroy, any that could potentially develop into an alternative model of nationalist, bourgeois industrial development on any level.

Wake up!!! The evidence is there. There is no reason to bumble and bungle along as if we are in the dark.

Randal Marlin , December 9, 2017 at 11:26 am

Daniel Pipes, from what I've read of him, is among those who counsel the U.S. government to use its military power to support the losing side in any civil wars fought within Israel's enemy states, so that the wars will continue, sparing Israel the threat of unified enemy states. What normal human beings consider a humanitarian disaster, repeated in Iraq, Syria and Libya, would be reckoned a success according to this way of thinking.
The thinking would appear to lead to similar treatment of Iran, with even more catastrophic consequences.

Behind all this is the thinking that the survival of Israel outweighs anything else in any global ethical calculus. Those who don't accept this moral premise but who believe in supporting the survival of Israel have their work cut out for them. This work would be made easier if the U.S. population saw clearly what was going on, instead of being preoccupied with salacious sexual misconduct stories or other distractions.

Zachary Smith , December 9, 2017 at 2:43 pm

A Russian interceptor has been scrambled to stop a rogue US fighter jet from actively interfering with an anti-terrorist operation, the Russian Defense Ministry said. It also accused the US of provoking close encounters with the Russian jets in Syria.

A US F-22 fighter was preventing two Russian Su-25 strike aircraft from bombing an Islamic State (IS, former ISIS) base to the west of the Euphrates November 23, according to the ministry. The ministry's spokesman, Major General Igor Konashenkov described the episode as yet another example of US aircraft attempts to prevent Russian forces from carrying out strikes against Islamic State.

"The F-22 launched decoy flares and used airbrakes while constantly maneuvering [near the Russian strike jets], imitating an air fight," Konashenkov said. He added that the US jet ceased its dangerous maneuvers only after a Russian Su-35S fighter jet joined the two strike planes.

If this story is true, then it illustrates a number of things. First, the US is still providing ISIS air cover. Second, either the F-22 pilot or his commander is dumber than dirt. The F-22 may be a fine airplane, but getting into a contest with an equally fine non-stealth airplane at eyeball distances means throwing away every advantage of the super-expensive stealth.

Zachary Smith , December 9, 2017 at 2:43 pm

https://www.rt.com/news/412590-russia-us-syria-air-force/

Pablo Diablo , December 9, 2017 at 2:53 pm

Gotta keep the War Machine well fed and insure Corporate control of markets and taking of resources.

Abe , December 9, 2017 at 2:54 pm

In October 1973, a nuclear armed rogue state almost triggered a global thermonuclear war.

Yom Kippur: Israel's 1973 nuclear alert
By Richard Sale
https://www.upi.com/Yom-Kippur-Israels-1973-nuclear-alert/64941032228992/

Israel obtained operational nuclear weapons capability by 1967, with the mass production of nuclear warheads occurring immediately after the Six-Day War. In addition to the Israeli nuclear arsenal, Israel has offensive chemical and biological warfare stockpiles.

Israel, the Middle East's sole nuclear power, is not a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

In 2015, the US-based Institute for Science and International Security estimated that Israel had 115 nuclear warheads. Outside estimates of Israel's nuclear arsenal range up to 400 nuclear weapons.

Israeli nuclear weapons delivery mechanisms include Jericho 3 missiles, with a range of 4,800 km to 6,500 km (though a 2004 source estimated its range at up to 11,500 km), as well as regional coverage from road mobile Jericho 2 IRBMs.

Additionally, Israel is believed to have an offshore nuclear capability using submarine-launched nuclear-capable cruise missiles, which can be launched from the Israeli Navy's Dolphin-class submarines.

The Israeli Air Force has F-15I and F-16I Sufa fighter aircraft are capable of delivering tactical and strategic nuclear weapons at long distances using conformal fuel tanks and supported by their aerial refueling fleet of modified Boeing 707's.

In 1986, Mordechai Vanunu, a former technician at Dimona, fled to the United Kingdom and revealed to the media some evidence of Israel's nuclear program and explained the purposes of each building, also revealing a top-secret underground facility directly below the installation.

The Mossad, Israel's secret service, sent a female agent who lured Vanunu to Italy, where he was kidnapped by Mossad agents and smuggled to Israel aboard a freighter. An Israeli court then tried him in secret on charges of treason and espionage, and sentenced him to eighteen years imprisonment.

At the time of Vanunu's kidnapping, The Times reported that Israel had material for approximately 20 hydrogen bombs and 200 fission bombs by 1986. In the spring of 2004, Vanunu was released from prison, and placed under several strict restrictions, such as the denial of a passport, freedom of movement limitations and restrictions on communications with the press. Since his release, he has been rearrested and charged multiple times for violations of the terms of his release.

Safety concerns about this 40-year-old reactor have been reported. In 2004, as a preventive measure, Israeli authorities distributed potassium iodide anti-radiation tablets to thousands of residents living nearby. Local residents have raised concerns regarding serious threats to health from living near the reactor.

According to a lawsuit filed in Be'er Sheva Labor Tribunal, workers at the center were subjected to human experimentation in 1998. According to Julius Malick, the worker who submitted the lawsuit, they were given drinks containing uranium without medical supervision and without obtaining written consent or warning them about risks of side effects.

In April 2016 the U.S. National Security Archive declassified dozens of documents from 1960 to 1970, which detail what American intelligence viewed as Israel's attempts to obfuscate the purpose and details of its nuclear program. The Americans involved in discussions with Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion and other Israelis believed the country was providing "untruthful cover" about intentions to build nuclear weapons.

mike k , December 9, 2017 at 6:38 pm

The machinations of those seeking to gain advantages for themselves by hurting others, are truly appalling. If we fail to name evil for what it is, then we fail as human beings.Those who look the other way as their country engages in an organized reign of terror, are complicit in that enormous crime.

Den Lille Abe , December 9, 2017 at 8:54 pm

The path the US has chosen since the end of WWII has been over dead bodies. In the name of "security", bringing "Freedom" and "Democracy" and complete unconstrained greed it has trampled countless nations into piles of rubble. To say it is despised or loathed is an overwhelming understatement. It is almost universally hated in the third world. Rightly. Bringing this monstrosity to a halt is a difficult task, and probably cannot be done militarily without a nuclear war, economically could in the end have the same outcome, then how?

Easy! Ruin its population. This process has started, long ago. The decline in the US of health, general wealth, nutrition, production, education, equality, ethics and morals is already showing as cracks in the fabrics of the US.

A population of incarcerated, obese, low iQ zealot junkies, armed to teeth with guns, in a country with a crumbling infrastructure, full of environmental disasters is 21 st century for most Americans. In all the areas I mentioned the US is going backwards compared to most other countries. So the monster will come down.

turk151 , December 9, 2017 at 10:20 pm

I think you are being a little hard on the incarcerated, obese, low iQ zealot junkies, armed to teeth with guns

I am not sure who is more loathsome the evangelicals who were supporting the Bush / Cheney cabal murderous wars until the bitter end or the liberal intelligentsia careerist cheerleaders for Obama and Hilary's Wars in Iraq and Syria, who also dont give a damn about another Arab country being destroyed and sold into slavery as long as Hillary gets elected. At least with the former group, you can chalk it up to a lack of education.

Linda Wood , December 10, 2017 at 1:52 am

This is possibly the most intelligent and hopeful discussion I have read since 9/11. It says that at least some Americans do see that we have a fascist cell in our government. That is the first step in finding a way to unplug it. Best wishes to all of you who have written here. We will find a way to put war out of business.

Barbara van der Wal-Kylstra , December 10, 2017 at 2:46 am

I think this pattern of using Salafists for regime change started already in Afghanistan, with Brzezinski plotting with Saudi-Arabia and Pakistan to pay and train Osama bin Laden to attack the pro Russia regime and trying to get the USSR involved in it, also trying to blame the USSR for its agression, like they did in Syri"r?

Sam F , December 10, 2017 at 9:18 am

Yes, the Brzezinski/Reagan support of fanatic insurgencies began in AfPak and was revived for the zionists. Russia happened to be on the side more or less tending to progress in both cases, so it had to be opposed. The warmongers are always the US MIC/intel, allied with the anti-American zionist fascists for Mideast wars.

Luutzen , December 10, 2017 at 9:15 am

Sheldon Adelson, Soros, Saban all wanted carving up of Arabic states into small sectarian pieces (No Nasseric pan-Arabic states, a threat to Israël). And protracted wars of total destruction. Easy.

mike k , December 10, 2017 at 11:05 am

The US Military is part of the largest terrorist organization on Earth. For the super rich and powerful rulers of that US Mafia, the ignorant religious fanatics and other tools of Empire are just pawns in their game of world domination and universal slavery for all but themselves. These monsters of evil delight in profiting from the destruction of others; but their insatiable greed for more power will never be satisfied, and will become the cause of the annihilation of every living thing – including themselves. But like other sold out human addicts, at this point they don't really care, and will blindly pursue their nightmare quest to the very end – and perhaps they secretly hope that that final end of everything will at last quench their burning appetite for blood and gold.

Joe Tedesky , December 10, 2017 at 11:12 am

I'm leaving a link to a very long David Swanson article, where Mr Swanson goes into quite a lot of detail to how the U.S. wages war.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2017/12/76-years-pearl-harbor-lies.html

Brendan , December 10, 2017 at 12:09 pm

What's interesting of course is how not just Washington, but much of the 'left' also cheered on the jihadists.

Of course, they were told (by whom?) that the jihadists were 'democratic rebels' and 'freedom fighters' who just wanted to 'bring democracy' to Syria, and get rid of the 'tyrant Assad.' 5 years later, so much of the nonsense about "local councils" and "white helmets" has been exposed for what it was. Yet many 'free thinking' people bought the propaganda. Just like they do on Russiagate. Who needs an "alt-right" when America's "left" is a total disgrace?

[Nov 16, 2017] For Those Who Don't 'Believe' In 'Conspiracies' Here Are 58 Admitted False Flag Attacks

Notable quotes:
"... Washington's Blog ..."
"... have on various occasions ..."
"... blow up AMERICAN airplanes ..."
"... commit terrorist acts on American soil ..."
"... acts of sabotage are staged and blamed on the enemy ..."
"... Special Forces Foreign Internal Defense Tactics Techniques and Procedures for Special Forces ..."
Nov 16, 2017 | educateinspirechange.org

I understand why Facebook removed this link. the list contains entries that are not very convincing, and might well be false.

"False flag terrorism" occurs when elements within a government stage a secret operation whereby government forces pretend to be a targeted enemy while attacking their own forces or people. The attack is then falsely blamed on the enemy in order to justify going to war against that enemy.

Yes, it's true: There really are conspiracies. As the popular TV show "The X-Files" notes, all you have to do is look because "the truth is out there."

But unfortunately many in our society have been conditioned by the old media and politicos not to take any mention of conspiracies seriously, and this despite the fact that conspiracies have been real and have occurred much more frequently than many people realize.

In fact, one websiteWashington's Blog – has documented 58 of them in recent days, and many are quite shocking:

In the following instances, officials in the government which carried out the attack (or seriously proposed an attack) admit to it, either orally, in writing, or through photographs or videos:

(1) Japanese troops set off a small explosion on a train track in 1931, and falsely blamed it on China in order to justify an invasion of Manchuria. This is known as the "Mukden Incident" or the "Manchurian Incident". The Tokyo International Military Tribunal found : "Several of the participators in the plan, including Hashimoto [a high-ranking Japanese army officer], have on various occasions admitted their part in the plot and have stated that the object of the 'Incident' was to afford an excuse for the occupation of Manchuria by the Kwantung Army ." And see this .

(2) A major with the Nazi SS admitted at the Nuremberg trials that – under orders from the chief of the Gestapo – he and some other Nazi operatives faked attacks on their own people and resources which they blamed on the Poles, to justify the invasion of Poland.

(3) Nazi general Franz Halder also testified at the Nuremberg trials that Nazi leader Hermann Goering admitted to setting fire to the German parliament building in 1933, and then falsely blaming the communists for the arson.

(4) Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev admitted in writing that the Soviet Union's Red Army shelled the Russian village of Mainila in 1939 – while blaming the attack on Finland – as a basis for launching the "Winter War" against Finland. Russian president Boris Yeltsin agreed that Russia had been the aggressor in the Winter War.

(5) The Russian Parliament, current Russian president Putin and former Soviet leader Gorbachev all admit that Soviet leader Joseph Stalin ordered his secret police to execute sh army officers and civilians in 1940, and then falsely blamed it on the Nazis.

(6) The British government admits that – between 1946 and 1948 – it bombed 5 ships carrying Jews attempting to flee the Holocaust to seek safety in Palestine, set up a fake group called "Defenders of Arab Palestine", and then had the psuedo-group falsely claim responsibility for the bombings (and see this , this and this ).

(7) Israel admits that in 1954, an Israeli terrorist cell operating in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings, including U.S. diplomatic facilities, then left behind "evidence" implicating the Arabs as the culprits (one of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing the Egyptians to identify the bombers, and several of the Israelis later confessed) (and see this and this ).

(8) The CIA admits that it hired Iranians in the 1950′s to pose as Communists and stage bombings in Iran in order to turn the country against its democratically-elected prime minister.

(9) The Turkish Prime Minister admitted that the Turkish government carried out the 1955 bombing on a Turkish consulate in Greece – also damaging the nearby birthplace of the founder of modern Turkey – and blamed it on Greece, for the purpose of inciting and justifying anti-Greek violence.

(10) The British Prime Minister admitted to his defense secretary that he and American president Dwight Eisenhower approved a plan in 1957 to carry out attacks in Syria and blame it on the Syrian government as a way to effect regime change.

(11) The former Italian Prime Minister, an Italian judge, and the former head of Italian counterintelligence admit that NATO, with the help of the Pentagon and CIA, carried out terror bombings in Italy and other European countries in the 1950s through the 1980s and blamed the communists, in order to rally people's support for their governments in Europe in their fight against communism .

As one participant in this formerly-secret program stated: "You had to attack civilians, people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple. They were supposed to force these people, the Italian public, to turn to the state to ask for greater security" so that "a state of emergency could be declared, so people would willingly trade part of their freedom for the security" (and see this ) (Italy and other European countries subject to the terror campaign had joined NATO before the bombings occurred). And watch this BBC special . They also allegedly carried out terror attacks in France, Belgium, Denmark, Germany, Greece, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, the UK , and other countries.

False flag attacks carried out pursuant to this program include – by way of example only:

(12) In 1960, American Senator George Smathers suggested that the U.S. launch "a false attack made on Guantanamo Bay which would give us the excuse of actually fomenting a fight which would then give us the excuse to go in and [overthrow Castro]".

(13) Official State Department documents show that, in 1961, the head of the Joint Chiefs and other high-level officials discussed blowing up a consulate in the Dominican Republic in order to justify an invasion of that country. The plans were not carried out, but they were all discussed as serious proposals.

(14) As admitted by the U.S. government, recently declassified documents show that in 1962, the American Joint Chiefs of Staff signed off on a plan to blow up AMERICAN airplanes (using an elaborate plan involving the switching of airplanes), and also to commit terrorist acts on American soil , and then to blame it on the Cubans in order to justify an invasion of Cuba. See the following ABC news report ; the official documents ; and watch this interview with the former Washington Investigative Producer for ABC's World News Tonight with Peter Jennings.

(15) In 1963, the U.S. Department of Defense wrote a paper promoting attacks on nations within the Organization of American States – such as Trinidad-Tobago or Jamaica – and then falsely blaming them on Cuba.

(16) The U.S. Department of Defense even suggested covertly paying a person in the Castro government to attack the United States: "The only area remaining for consideration then would be to bribe one of Castro's subordinate commanders to initiate an attack on Guantanamo."

(17) The NSA admits that it lied about what really happened in the Gulf of Tonkin incident in 1964 manipulating data to make it look like North Vietnamese boats fired on a U.S. ship so as to create a false justification for the Vietnam war.

(18) A U.S. Congressional committee admitted that – as part of its "Cointelpro" campaign – the FBI had used many provocateurs in the 1950s through 1970s to carry out violent acts and falsely blame them on political activists.

(19) A top Turkish general admitted that Turkish forces burned down a mosque on Cyprus in the 1970s and blamed it on their enemy. He explained : "In Special War, certain acts of sabotage are staged and blamed on the enemy to increase public resistance. We did this on Cyprus; we even burnt down a mosque." In response to the surprised correspondent's incredulous look the general said, "I am giving an example".

(20) A declassified 1973 CIA document reveals a program to train foreign police and troops on how to make booby traps, pretending that they were training them on how to investigate terrorist acts:

The Agency maintains liaison in varying degrees with foreign police/security organizations through its field stations .

[CIA provides training sessions as follows:]

a. Providing trainees with basic knowledge in the uses of commercial and military demolitions and incendiaries as they may be applied in terrorism and industrial sabotage operations.

b. Introducing the trainees to commercially available materials and home laboratory techniques , likely to he used in the manufacture of explosives and incendiaries by terrorists or saboteurs.

c. Familiarizing the trainees with the concept of target analysis and operational planning that a saboteur or terrorist must employ.

d. Introducing the trainees to booby trapping devices and techniques giving practical experience with both manufactured and improvised devices through actual fabrication

***

The program provides the trainees with ample opportunity to develop basic familiarity and use proficiently through handling, preparing and applying the various explosive charges, incendiary agents, terrorist devices and sabotage techniques

(21) The German government admitted (and see this ) that, in 1978, the German secret service detonated a bomb in the outer wall of a prison and planted "escape tools" on a prisoner – a member of the Red Army Faction – which the secret service wished to frame the bombing on.

(22) A Mossad agent admits that, in 1984, Mossad planted a radio transmitter in Gaddaffi's compound in Tripoli, Libya which broadcast fake terrorist trasmissions recorded by Mossad, in order to frame Gaddaffi as a terrorist supporter. Ronald Reagan bombed Libya immediately thereafter.

(23) The South African Truth and Reconciliation Council found that, in 1989, the Civil Cooperation Bureau (a covert branch of the South African Defense Force) approached an explosives expert and asked him "to participate in an operation aimed at discrediting the ANC [the African National Congress] by bombing the police vehicle of the investigating officer into the murder incident", thus framing the ANC for the bombing.

(24) An Algerian diplomat and several officers in the Algerian army admit that, in the 1990s, the Algerian army frequently massacred Algerian civilians and then blamed Islamic militants for the killings (and see this video ; and Agence France-Presse, 9/27/2002, French Court Dismisses Algerian Defamation Suit Against Author).

(25) In 1993, a bomb in Northern Ireland killed 9 civilians. Official documents from the Royal Ulster Constabulary (i.e. the British government) show that the mastermind of the bombing was a British agent, and that the bombing was designed to inflame sectarian tensions. And see this .

(26) The United States Army's 1994 publication Special Forces Foreign Internal Defense Tactics Techniques and Procedures for Special Forces – updated in 2004 – recommends employing terrorists and using false flag operations to destabilize leftist regimes in Latin America. False flag terrorist attacks were carried out in Latin America and other regions as part of the CIA's " Dirty Wars ". And see this .

(27) Similarly, a CIA "psychological operations" manual prepared by a CIA contractor for the Nicaraguan Contra rebels noted the value of assassinating someone on your own side to create a "martyr" for the cause. The manual was authenticated by the U.S. government. The manual received so much publicity from Associated Press, Washington Post and other news coverage that – during the 1984 presidential debate – President Reagan was confronted with the following question on national television:

At this moment, we are confronted with the extraordinary story of a CIA guerrilla manual for the anti-Sandinista contras whom we are backing, which advocates not only assassinations of Sandinistas but the hiring of criminals to assassinate the guerrillas we are supporting in order to create martyrs.

(28) An Indonesian fact-finding team investigated violent riots which occurred in 1998, and determined that " elements of the military had been involved in the riots, some of which were deliberately provoked ".

(29) Senior Russian Senior military and intelligence officers admit that the KGB blew up Russian apartment buildings in 1999 and falsely blamed it on Chechens, in order to justify an invasion of Chechnya (and see this report and this discussion ).

(30) As reported by BBC , the New York Times , and Associated Press , Macedonian officials admit that the government murdered 7 innocent immigrants in cold blood and pretended that they were Al Qaeda soldiers attempting to assassinate Macedonian police, in order to join the "war on terror".

(31) At the July 2001 G8 Summit in Genoa, Italy, black-clad thugs were videotaped getting out of police cars, and were seen by an Italian MP carrying "iron bars inside the police station". Subsequently, senior police officials in Genoa subsequently admitted that police planted two Molotov cocktails and faked the stabbing of a police officer at the G8 Summit, in order to justify a violent crackdown against protesters.

(32) The U.S. falsely blamed Iraq for playing a role in the 9/11 attacks – as shown by a memo from the defense secretary – as one of the main justifications for launching the Iraq war. Even after the 9/11 Commission admitted that there was no connection, Dick Cheney said that the evidence is "overwhelming" that al Qaeda had a relationship with Saddam Hussein's regime, that Cheney "probably" had information unavailable to the Commission, and that the media was not 'doing their homework' in reporting such ties. Top U.S. government officials now admit that the Iraq war was really launched for oil not 9/11 or weapons of mass destruction. Despite previous "lone wolf" claims, many U.S. government officials now say that 9/11 was state-sponsored terror; but Iraq was not the state which backed the hijackers. (Many U.S. officials have alleged that 9/11 was a false flag operation by rogue elements of the U.S. government; but such a claim is beyond the scope of this discussion. The key point is that the U.S. falsely blamed it on Iraq, when it knew Iraq had nothing to do with it.).

(33) Although the FBI now admits that the 2001 anthrax attacks were carried out by one or more U.S. government scientists, a senior FBI official says that the FBI was actually told to blame the Anthrax attacks on Al Qaeda by White House officials (remember what the anthrax letters looked like ). Government officials also confirm that the white House tried to link the anthrax to Iraq as a justification for regime change in that country.

(34) 2 months after 9/11, high-level government officials in Macedonia decided to "justify" their entry into the "war on terror" by catching and killing "terrorists". According to the New York Times, Macedonian police investigators admit that the officials launched a plan which included "luring foreign migrants into the country, executing them in a staged gun battle, and then claiming they were a unit backed by Al Qaeda intent on attacking Western embassies". The plan was carried out shortly afterwards, with seven immigrants killed in 2002. Photos of the dead immigrants, posed with planted evidence – "bags of uniforms and semiautomatic weapons at their side" – were released to Western diplomats.

(35) According to the Washington Post , Indonesian police admit that the Indonesian military killed American teachers in Papua in 2002 and blamed the murders on a Papuan separatist group in order to get that group listed as a terrorist organization.

(36) The well-respected former Indonesian president also admits that the government probably had a role in the Bali bombings.

(37) Police outside of a 2003 European Union summit in Greece were filmed planting Molotov cocktails on a peaceful protester .

(38) Former Department of Justice lawyer John Yoo suggested in 2005 that the US should go on the offensive against al-Qaeda, having "our intelligence agencies create a false terrorist organization . It could have its own websites, recruitment centers, training camps, and fundraising operations. It could launch fake terrorist operations and claim credit for real terrorist strikes, helping to sow confusion within al-Qaeda's ranks, causing operatives to doubt others' identities and to question the validity of communications."

(39) Similarly, in 2005, Professor John Arquilla of the Naval Postgraduate School – a renowned US defense analyst credited with developing the concept of 'netwar' – called for western intelligence services to create new "pseudo gang" terrorist groups , as a way of undermining "real" terror networks. According to Pulitzer-Prize winning journalist Seymour Hersh, Arquilla's 'pseudo-gang' strategy was, Hersh reported, already being implemented by the Pentagon:

"Under Rumsfeld's new approach, I was told, US military operatives would be permitted to pose abroad as corrupt foreign businessmen seeking to buy contraband items that could be used in nuclear-weapons systems. In some cases, according to the Pentagon advisers, local citizens could be recruited and asked to join up with guerrillas or terrorists

The new rules will enable the Special Forces community to set up what it calls 'action teams' in the target countries overseas which can be used to find and eliminate terrorist organizations. 'Do you remember the right-wing execution squads in El Salvador?' the former high-level intelligence official asked me, referring to the military-led gangs that committed atrocities in the early nineteen-eighties. 'We founded them and we financed them,' he said. 'The objective now is to recruit locals in any area we want. And we aren't going to tell Congress about it.' A former military officer, who has knowledge of the Pentagon's commando capabilities, said, 'We're going to be riding with the bad boys.'"

(40) United Press International reported in June 2005:

U.S. intelligence officers are reporting that some of the insurgents in Iraq are using recent-model Beretta 92 pistols, but the pistols seem to have had their serial numbers erased. The numbers do not appear to have been physically removed; the pistols seem to have come off a production line without any serial numbers. Analysts suggest the lack of serial numbers indicates that the weapons were intended for intelligence operations or terrorist cells with substantial government backing. Analysts speculate that these guns are probably from either Mossad or the CIA Analysts speculate that agent provocateurs may be using the untraceable weapons even as U.S. authorities use insurgent attacks against civilians as evidence of the illegitimacy of the resistance.

(41) Undercover Israeli soldiers admitted in 2005 to throwing stones at other Israeli soldiers so they could blame it on Palestinians, as an excuse to crack down on peaceful protests by the Palestinians.

(42) Quebec police admitted that, in 2007, thugs carrying rocks to a peaceful protest were actually undercover Quebec police officers (and see this ).

(43) A 2008 US Army special operations field manual recommends that the U.S. military use surrogate non-state groups such as "paramilitary forces, individuals, businesses, foreign political organizations, resistant or insurgent organizations, expatriates, transnational terrorism adversaries, disillusioned transnational terrorism members , black marketers, and other social or political 'undesirables.'" The manual specifically acknowledged that U.S. special operations can involve both counterterrorism and "Terrorism" (as well as "transnational criminal activities, including narco-trafficking, illicit arms-dealing, and illegal financial transactions.")

(44) The former Italian Prime Minister, President, and head of Secret Services (Francesco Cossiga) advised the 2008 minister in charge of the police, on how to deal with protests from teachers and students:

He should do what I did when I was Minister of the Interior infiltrate the movement with agents provocateurs inclined to do anything . And after that, with the strength of the gained population consent, beat them for blood and beat for blood also those teachers that incite them. Especially the teachers. Not the elderly, of course, but the girl teachers yes.

(45) At the G20 protests in London in 2009, a British member of parliament saw plain clothes police officers attempting to incite the crowd to violence.

(46) Egyptian politicians admitted (and see this ) that government employees looted priceless museum artifacts 2011 to try to discredit the protesters.

(47) In 2011, a Colombian colonel admitted that he and his soldiers had lured 57 innocent civilians and killed them – after dressing many of them in uniforms – as part of a scheme to claim that Columbia was eradicating left-wing terrorists. And see this .

(48) Rioters who discredited the peaceful protests against the swearing in of the Mexican president in 2012 admitted that they were paid 300 pesos each to destroy everything in their path. According to Wikipedia, photos also show the vandals waiting in groups behind police lines prior to the violence.

(49) A Colombian army colonel has admitted that his unit murdered 57 civilians, then dressed them in uniforms and claimed they were rebels killed in combat.

(50) On November 20, 2014, Mexican agent provocateurs were transported by army vehicles to participate in the 2014 Iguala mass kidnapping protests, as was shown by videos and pictures distributed via social networks.

(51) The highly-respected writer for the Telegraph Ambrose Evans-Pritchard says that the head of Saudi intelligence – Prince Bandar – recently admitted that the Saudi government controls "Chechen" terrorists.

(52) High-level American sources admitted that the Turkish government – a fellow NATO country – carried out the chemical weapons attacks blamed on the Syrian government; and high-ranking Turkish government admitted on tape plans to carry out attacks and blame it on the Syrian government.

(53) The Ukrainian security chief admits that the sniper attacks which started the Ukrainian coup were carried out in order to frame others. Ukrainian officials admit that the Ukrainian snipers fired on both sides, to create maximum chaos.

(54) Burmese government officials admitted that Burma (renamed Myanmar) used false flag attacks against Muslim and Buddhist groups within the country to stir up hatred between the two groups, to prevent democracy from spreading.

(55) Britain's spy agency has admitted (and see this ) that it carries out "digital false flag" attacks on targets, framing people by writing offensive or unlawful material and blaming it on the target.

(56) U.S. soldiers have admitted that if they kill innocent Iraqis and Afghanis, they then "drop" automatic weapons near their body so they can pretend they were militants

(57) Similarly, police frame innocent people for crimes they didn't commit. The practice is so well-known that the New York Times noted in 1981:

In police jargon, a throwdown is a weapon planted on a victim.

Newsweek reported in 1999:

Perez, himself a former [Los Angeles Police Department] cop, was caught stealing eight pounds of cocaine from police evidence lockers. After pleading guilty in September, he bargained for a lighter sentence by telling an appalling story of attempted murder and a "throwdown"–police slang for a weapon planted by cops to make a shooting legally justifiable . Perez said he and his partner, Officer Nino Durden, shot an unarmed 18th Street Gang member named Javier Ovando, then planted a semiautomatic rifle on the unconscious suspect and claimed that Ovando had tried to shoot them during a stakeout.

Wikipedia notes :

As part of his plea bargain, Pérez implicated scores of officers from the Rampart Division's anti-gang unit, describing routinely beating gang members, planting evidence on suspects, falsifying reports and covering up unprovoked shootings

This is not limited to the United States, or to police forces.

(As a side note – and while not technically false flag attacks – police have been busted framing innocent people in many other ways , as well.)

(58) A former U.S. intelligence officer recently alleged :

Most terrorists are false flag terrorists or are created by our own security services.

(59) The head and special agent in charge of the FBI's Los Angeles office said that most terror attacks are committed by the CIA and FBI as false flags. Similarly, the director of the National Security Agency under Ronald Reagan – Lt. General William Odom said :

By any measure the US has long used terrorism. In '78-79 the Senate was trying to pass a law against international terrorism – in every version they produced, the lawyers said the US would be in violation.

(audio here ).

(60) Leaders throughout history have acknowledged the "benefits" of of false flags to justify their political agenda:

" Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death".
– Adolph Hitler

"Why of course the people don't want war But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked , and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
– Hermann Goering, Nazi leader.

"The easiest way to gain control of a population is to carry out acts of terror. [The public] will clamor for such laws if their personal security is threatened".
– Josef Stalin

Postscript: Unmarked Israeli fighter jets and unmarked torpedo boats attacked – and did everything they could to sink – a U.S. ship off the coast of Egypt in 1967 called the USS Liberty.

The attack started by targeting communications on the ship so that the Americans couldn't radio for help. The Israelis then jammed the ship's emergency distress channel, and shot at escaping life rafts in an attempt to prevent survivors from escaping.

Transcripts of conversations between the Israeli pilots and Israeli military show that Israel knew it was an American ship.

Numerous top-level American military and intelligence officials – including Admiral Thomas H. Moorer, former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff – believe that this was a failed false flag attack, and that Israel would have attempted to blame Egypt if the Israeli military had succeeded in sinking the ship. Indeed, President Lyndon Johnson dispatched nuclear-armed fighter jets to drop nuclear bombs on Cairo, Egypt. They were only recalled at the last minute, when Johnson realized that it was the Israelis – and not the Egyptians – who had fired on the Liberty.

The following actions are arguably an admission that Israel intended to frame Egypt for the attack, and didn't want the Liberty's crew to be able to tell the world what really happened: (1) using unmarked jets and boats, (2) destroying the Liberty's communication equipment and jamming the Liberty's emergency distress channel, and (3) trying to sink the ship and destroy all liferafts.

See this , this , this and this . I want to thank TheWashingtonsBlog.com for putting in all the hours of research that went into gathering all the information.

[Nov 16, 2017] I've Been Banned From Facebook For Sharing An Article About False Flags

Nov 16, 2017 | www.zerohedge.com

My page hasn't been blocked yet, but we'll see; I shared the article there, too.

The reason given for this ban by the little pop-up boxes when I logged on just now was that a couple months ago I had shared an article about admitted false flag operations perpetrated by governments around the world

I don't know what happened that made Facebook's system decide to crack down on me now all of a sudden, but I do know I've been a bit naughtier than usual in my last couple of articles .

The article I got the ban hammer for sharing is titled For Those Who Don't 'Believe' In 'Conspiracies' Here Are 58 Admitted False Flag Attacks .

According to the site's ticker it has 50,667 shares as of this writing. It's laden with hyperlinks for further reading, and lists only instances of false flag operations that insiders are on the record as having admitted to themselves. It's a good compilation of important information. People should be allowed to share it.

The notifications say I can be permanently banned if I continue posting that sort of material. I've had that account since 2007.

So. Who wants to see my Barbra Streisand impression?

[Oct 30, 2017] Could Papadopoulos case be an entrapment ? This "Russian professor" looks exactly like the heroes of Nigerian spam letters

Entrapment is as old as civilization. "In criminal law, entrapment is a practice whereby a law enforcement agent induces a person to commit a criminal offence that the person would have otherwise been unlikely or unwilling to commit. [1] It "is the conception and planning of an offence by an officer, and his procurement of its commission by one who would not have perpetrated it except for the trickery, persuasion or fraud of the officer." [2] "
Previously I thought that members of Hillary entourage were complete idiots both as for computer security and generally security wise. Now it looks like Trump entourage have has the same problem: many of they were idiots.
In "After Snowden" world anybody who wants to communicate with a unknown foreign person via Facebook of Twitter on issues of any political significance is an idiot. Because chances of hoax, provocation of in case of Trump team "false flag operation" are nearly 100%. This way you can implicate anybody in Russian ties: hire a hoaxer and ask him to pretend that he is Russian. To simp0lify the matter ask him to use Skype to communicate with the target. Send a couple of incriminating emails. Any of Nigerian spammers can be used for this purpose. They are already trained. Rinse and repeat.
So how we can be sure that this idiot Papadopoulos was not set up? BTW he ws born in 1987 -- so he just out of the college (graduated in 2009). What does he know about foreign policy?He never has been an ambassador to an important country, words in State Depertment, or servers as a senior fellow in some research institution which study those issues. (he was "unpaid intern" in Hudson institute" in 2011) What foreign policy advisor role for such a guy ? He looks like a huckster to me.
Of cause Kieren McCarth in her joy over the development is unable to contemplate this question.
Notable quotes:
"... Papadopoulos has been assisting Mueller's special inquiry for several months, but word of this cooperation only emerged today when his guilty plea to making false statements to the FBI was unsealed. ..."
"... he used Facebook Messenger and Skype to communicate with a Russian government agent, called "the Professor," who promised to provide damaging information on the Clinton campaign. Emails, no less. ..."
"... the Professor showed interest in defendant PAPADOPOULOS only after learning of his role." ..."
"... And then there is extensive evidence -- confirmed by Papadopoulos -- that he acted as a go-between for the Trump campaign and the Russian government, including being supplied with damaging information on the Clinton campaign. ..."
"... There are also emails from other Trump campaign staff -- so far unnamed -- that show explicit efforts to work with Russians in gathering damaging information on the real-estate tycoon's political rival. In other words, efforts to engage a foreign power to swing a US presidential election. ..."
"... For one, using Facebook to carry out highly dubious and potentially illegal activity is not a good idea. This is a social network that periodically changes account settings to keep up the pretense that it's not gathering and selling every snippet of information it can get out of you. Anything you say on Facebook may go straight down a pipe to the NSA and a database searchable by the FBI. It's called Section 702 . ..."
Oct 30, 2017 | www.theregister.co.uk
Originally from: Manafort, Stone, Trump, Papadopoulos, Kushner, Mueller, Russia All the tech angles in one place • The Register By Kieren McCarthy

Former Trump foreign policy advisor George Papadopoulos -- no, not that one -- has been turned by ex-FBI director Robert Mueller as part of the latter's investigation into Trump campaign team members. Mueller is probing allegations of obstruction of justice, money laundering and other financial crimes, and collusion with Russian government agents seeking to meddle with last year's US presidential election.

Papadopoulos has been assisting Mueller's special inquiry for several months, but word of this cooperation only emerged today when his guilty plea to making false statements to the FBI was unsealed.

Coincidentally, Trump's former campaign manager Paul Manafort surrendered himself this morning to Mueller at his nearest FBI office, as requested, to answer allegations ranging from making false statements to acting as a foreign agent.

Ex-Trump campaign official Rick Gates, also accused of conspiracy and money laundering, handed himself in today, too. The indictment against the pair is here , and both deny any wrongdoing.

Among the wealth of details in Papadopoulos' 14-page statement [PDF] is the fact that he used Facebook Messenger and Skype to communicate with a Russian government agent, called "the Professor," who promised to provide damaging information on the Clinton campaign. Emails, no less.

"This isn't like he [the Professor]'s messaging me while I'm in April with Trump," Papadopoulos told the FBI. "I wasn't even on the Trump team." Except he was on the team in April 2016. The Feds noted in their court paperwork: "Defendant PAPADOPOULOS met the Professor for the first time on or about March 14, 2016, after defendant PAPADOPOULOS had already learned he would be a foreign policy advisor for the Campaign; the Professor showed interest in defendant PAPADOPOULOS only after learning of his role."

And then there is extensive evidence -- confirmed by Papadopoulos -- that he acted as a go-between for the Trump campaign and the Russian government, including being supplied with damaging information on the Clinton campaign.

There are also emails from other Trump campaign staff -- so far unnamed -- that show explicit efforts to work with Russians in gathering damaging information on the real-estate tycoon's political rival. In other words, efforts to engage a foreign power to swing a US presidential election.

But let's take a quick look at Facebook.

For one, using Facebook to carry out highly dubious and potentially illegal activity is not a good idea. This is a social network that periodically changes account settings to keep up the pretense that it's not gathering and selling every snippet of information it can get out of you. Anything you say on Facebook may go straight down a pipe to the NSA and a database searchable by the FBI. It's called Section 702 .

Papadopoulos is obviously not a man well versed in spy craft. Something that becomes more apparent when it's revealed the day after he was pulled in for questioning, he deleted his entire Facebook account and started a new one. He also tried changing his phone number to sidestep the Feds.

You can just imagine Mueller's team at their morning meeting: so how did the Papadopoulos interview go yesterday? Well, this morning he deleted his Facebook account. Great, now we know where to look.
... ... ...

[Oct 27, 2017] False Flag Bombings, Murder Plots, Bizarre Phone Calls The Stunning Revelations In The JFK Assassination Files Zero Hedge

Oct 27, 2017 | www.zerohedge.com

Following last night's release of the latest set of JFK Assassination Files, the public has been busy combing through the several thousand documents. Among the more notable discoveries so far are the following: the CIA contemplated mafia hits on Cuban President Fidel Castro, involving the "false flag" staging of bombings in Miami; Someone calling the FBI threatening to kill Lee Harvey Oswald a day before Oswald's murder; the US examined sabotaging airplane parts heading to Cuba. As a reminder, following a deadline 25 years in the making, last night the National Archives released an abridged dump of JFK Assassination files. While president Trump blocked the release of some, arguably the most controversial, documents citing national security concerns, the release still left researchers and conspiracy theorists with 52 previously unreleased full documents and thousands in part to sift through.

Here are the key highlights from the trove so far, courtesy of CBS and AP :

[Sep 17, 2017] The So-called Russian Hack of the DNC Does Not Make Sense by Publius Tacitus

Highly recommended!
All signs of sophisticated false flag operation, which probably involved putting malware into DNC servers and then detecting and analyzing them
Notable quotes:
"... 6 May 2016 when CrowdStrike first detected what it assessed to be a Russian presence inside the DNC server. Follow me here. One week after realizing there had been a penetration, the DNC learns, courtesy of the computer security firm it hired, that the Russians are doing it. Okay. Does CrowdStrike shut down the penetration. Nope. The hacking apparently continues unabated. ..."
"... The Smoking Gun ..."
"... I introduce Seth Rich at this point because he represents an alternative hypothesis. Rich, who reportedly was a Bernie Sanders supporter, was in a position at the DNC that gave him access to the emails in question and the opportunity to download the emails and take them from the DNC headquarters. Worth noting that Julian Assange offered $20,000 for information leading to the arrest of Rich's killer or killers. 8. 22 July 2016. Wikileaks published the DNC emails starting on 22 July 2016. Bill Binney, a former senior official at NSA, insists that if such a hack and electronic transfer over the internet had occurred then the NSA has in it possession the intelligence data to prove that such activity had occurred. ..."
"... Notwithstanding the claim by CrowdStrike not a single piece of evidence has been provided to the public to support the conclusion that the emails were hacked and physically transferred to a server under the control of a Russian intelligence operative. ..."
"... Please do not try to post a comment stating that the "Intelligence Community" concluded as well that Russia was responsible. That claim is totally without one shred of actual forensic evidence. Also, Julian Assange insists that the emails did not come from a Russian source. ..."
"... Wikileaks, the protector of the accountability of the top, has announced a reward for finding the murderers of Seth Rich. In comparison, the DNC has not offered any reward to help the investigation of the murder of the DNC staffer, but the DNC found a well-connected lawyer to protect Imran Awan who is guilty (along with Debbie Wasserman-Schultz) in the greatest breach of national cybersecurity: http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/29/wasserman-schultz-seemingly-planned-to-pay-suspect-even-while-he-lived-in-pakistan/ ..."
"... I'm afraid you're behind the times. Wheeler is no longer relevant now that Sy Hersh has revealed an FBI report that explicitly says Rich was in contact with Wikileaks offering to sell them DNC documents. ..."
"... It's unfortunate for the Rich family, but now that the connection is pretty much confirmed, they're going to have to allow the truth to come out ..."
"... Mr. Dmitri Alperovitch, of Jewish descent (and an emigre from Russia), has been an "expert" at the Atlantic Council, the same organization that cherishes and provides for Mr. Eliot Higgins. These two gentlemen - and the directorate of Atlantic Council - are exhibit one of opportunism and intellectual dishonesty (though it is hard to think about Mr. Higgins in terms of "intellect"). ..."
"... Alperovitch is not just an incompetent "expert" in cybersecurity - he is a willing liar and war-mongering, for money. ..."
"... One could of course start earlier. What is the exact timeline of the larger cyberwar post 9/11, or at least the bits and pieces that surfaced for the nitwits among us, like: Stuxnet? ..."
"... Scott Ritter's article referenced in PT's post is terrific, covering a ton of issues related to CrowdStrike and the DNC hack. You need to read it, not just PT's timeline. In case you missed the link in PT's post: ..."
"... His article echoes and reinforces what Carr and others have said about the difficulty of attribution of infosec breaches. Namely that the basic problem of both intelligence and infosec operations is that there is too much obfuscation, manipulation, and misdirection involved to be sure of who or what is going on. ..."
"... The Seth Rich connection is pretty much a done deal, now that Sy Hersh has been caught on tape stating that he knows of an FBI report based on a forensic analysis of Rich's laptop that shows Rich was in direct contact with Wikileaks with an attempt to sell them DNC documents and that Wikileaks had access to Rich's DropBox account. Despite Hersh's subsequent denials - which everyone knows are his usual impatient deflections prior to putting out a sourced and organized article - it's pretty clear that Rich was at least one of the sources of the Wikileaks email dump and that there is zero connection to Russia. ..."
"... None of this proves that Russian intelligence - or Russians of some stripe - or for that matter hackers from literally anywhere - couldn't or didn't ALSO do a hack of the DNC. But it does prove that the iron-clad attribution of the source of Wikileaks email release to Russia is at best flawed, and at worst a deliberate cover up of a leak. ..."
Sep 05, 2017 | turcopolier.typepad.com

Notwithstanding the conventional wisdom that Russia hacked into the DNC computers, downloaded emails and a passed the stolen missives to Julian Assange's crew at Wikileaks, a careful examination of the timeline of events from 2016 shows that this story is simply not plausible.

Let me take you through the known facts:

1. 29 April 2016 , when the DNC became aware its servers had been penetrated (https://medium.com/homefront-rising/dumbstruck-how-crowdstrike-conned-america-on-the-hack-of-the-dnc-ecfa522ff44f). Note. They apparently did not know who was doing it. 2, 6 May 2016 when CrowdStrike first detected what it assessed to be a Russian presence inside the DNC server. Follow me here. One week after realizing there had been a penetration, the DNC learns, courtesy of the computer security firm it hired, that the Russians are doing it. Okay. Does CrowdStrike shut down the penetration. Nope. The hacking apparently continues unabated. 3. 25 May 2016. The messages published on Wikileaks from the DNC show that 26 May 2016 was the last date that emails were sent and received at the DNC. There are no emails in the public domain after that date. In other words, if the DNC emails were taken via a hacking operation, we can conclude from the fact that the last messages posted to Wikileaks show a date time group of 25 May 2016. Wikileaks has not reported nor posted any emails from the DNC after the 25th of May. I think it is reasonable to assume that was the day the dirty deed was done. 4. 12 June 2016, CrowdStrike purged the DNC server of all malware. Are you kidding me? 45 days after the DNC discovers that its serve has been penetrated the decision to purge the DNC server is finally made. What in the hell were they waiting for? But this also tells us that 18 days after the last email "taken" from the DNC, no additional emails were taken by this nasty malware. Here is what does not make sense to me. If the DNC emails were truly hacked and the malware was still in place on 11 June 2016 (it was not purged until the 12th) then why are there no emails from the DNC after 26 May 2016? an excellent analysis of Guccifer's role : Almost immediately after the one-two punch of the Washington Post article/CrowdStrike technical report went public, however, something totally unexpected happened -- someone came forward and took full responsibility for the DNC cyber attack. Moreover, this entity -- operating under the persona Guccifer 2.0 (ostensibly named after the original Guccifer , a Romanian hacker who stole the emails of a number of high-profile celebrities and who was arrested in 2014 and sentenced to 4 ½ years of prison in May 2016) -- did something no state actor has ever done before, publishing documents stolen from the DNC server as proof of his claims.
Hi. This is Guccifer 2.0 and this is me who hacked Democratic National Committee.

With that simple email, sent to the on-line news magazine, The Smoking Gun , Guccifer 2.0 stole the limelight away from Alperovitch. Over the course of the next few days, through a series of emails, online posts and interviews , Guccifer 2.0 openly mocked CrowdStrike and its Russian attribution. Guccifer 2.0 released a number of documents, including a massive 200-plus-missive containing opposition research on Donald Trump.

Guccifer 2.0 also directly contradicted the efforts on the part of the DNC to minimize the extent of the hacking, releasing the very donor lists the DNC specifically stated had not been stolen. More chilling, Guccifer 2.0 claimed to be in possession of "about 100 Gb of data" which had been passed on to the online publisher, Wikileaks, who "will publish them soon." 7. Seth Rich died on 10 July 2016. I introduce Seth Rich at this point because he represents an alternative hypothesis. Rich, who reportedly was a Bernie Sanders supporter, was in a position at the DNC that gave him access to the emails in question and the opportunity to download the emails and take them from the DNC headquarters. Worth noting that Julian Assange offered $20,000 for information leading to the arrest of Rich's killer or killers. 8. 22 July 2016. Wikileaks published the DNC emails starting on 22 July 2016. Bill Binney, a former senior official at NSA, insists that if such a hack and electronic transfer over the internet had occurred then the NSA has in it possession the intelligence data to prove that such activity had occurred. Notwithstanding the claim by CrowdStrike not a single piece of evidence has been provided to the public to support the conclusion that the emails were hacked and physically transferred to a server under the control of a Russian intelligence operative. Please do not try to post a comment stating that the "Intelligence Community" concluded as well that Russia was responsible. That claim is totally without one shred of actual forensic evidence. Also, Julian Assange insists that the emails did not come from a Russian source.

Fool , 05 September 2017 at 09:01 AM

Where was it reported that Rich was a Sanders supporter?
Publius Tacitus -> Fool... , 05 September 2017 at 09:15 AM
This is one of the reports, http://heavy.com/news/2016/08/seth-rich-julian-assange-source-wikileaks-wiki-dnc-emails-death-murder-reward-video-interview-hillary-clinton-shawn-lucas/.
Anna -> Publius Tacitus ... , 05 September 2017 at 10:56 AM
Wikileaks, the protector of the accountability of the top, has announced a reward for finding the murderers of Seth Rich. In comparison, the DNC has not offered any reward to help the investigation of the murder of the DNC staffer, but the DNC found a well-connected lawyer to protect Imran Awan who is guilty (along with Debbie Wasserman-Schultz) in the greatest breach of national cybersecurity: http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/29/wasserman-schultz-seemingly-planned-to-pay-suspect-even-while-he-lived-in-pakistan/
Stephanie -> Publius Tacitus ... , 06 September 2017 at 12:12 PM
Seth Rich's family have pleaded, and continue to plead, that the conspiracy theorists leave the death of their son alone and have said that those who continue to flog this nonsense around the internet are only serving to increase their pain. I suggest respectfully that some here may wish to consider their feelings. (Also, this stuff is nuts, you know.)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/were-seth-richs-parents-stop-politicizing-our-sons-murder/2017/05/23/164cf4dc-3fee-11e7-9869-bac8b446820a_story.html?utm_term=.b20208de48d3

"We also know that many people are angry at our government and want to see justice done in some way, somehow. We are asking you to please consider our feelings and words. There are people who are using our beloved Seth's memory and legacy for their own political goals, and they are using your outrage to perpetuate our nightmare."

http://www.businessinsider.com/seth-rich-family-response-lawsuit-rod-wheeler-2017-8

"Wheeler, a former Metropolitan Police Department officer, was a key figure in a series of debunked stories claiming that Rich had been in contact with Wikileaks before his death. Fox News, which reported the story online and on television, retracted it in June."

Richardstevenhack -> Stephanie... , 07 September 2017 at 07:43 PM
I'm afraid you're behind the times. Wheeler is no longer relevant now that Sy Hersh has revealed an FBI report that explicitly says Rich was in contact with Wikileaks offering to sell them DNC documents.

It's unfortunate for the Rich family, but now that the connection is pretty much confirmed, they're going to have to allow the truth to come out.

Anna , 05 September 2017 at 09:20 AM
Mr. Dmitri Alperovitch, of Jewish descent (and an emigre from Russia), has been an "expert" at the Atlantic Council, the same organization that cherishes and provides for Mr. Eliot Higgins. These two gentlemen - and the directorate of Atlantic Council - are exhibit one of opportunism and intellectual dishonesty (though it is hard to think about Mr. Higgins in terms of "intellect").

Here is an article by Alperovitch: http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/russian-cyber-attacks-in-the-united-states-will-intensify

Take note how Alperovitch coded the names of the supposed hackers: "Russian intelligence services hacked the Democratic National Committee's computer network and accessed opposition research on Donald Trump, according to the Atlantic Council's Dmitri Alperovitch.

Two Russian groups ! codenamed FancyBear and CozyBear ! have been identified as spearheading the DNC breach." Alperovitch is not just an incompetent "expert" in cybersecurity - he is a willing liar and war-mongering, for money.

The DNC hacking story has never been about national security; Alperovitch (and his handlers) have no loyalty to the US.

LeaNder , 05 September 2017 at 09:59 AM
PT, I make a short exception. Actually decided to stop babbling for a while. But: Just finished something successfully.

And since I usually need distraction by something far more interesting then matters at hand. I was close to your line of thought yesters.

But really: Shouldn't the timeline start in 2015, since that's supposedly the time someone got into the DNC's system?

One could of course start earlier. What is the exact timeline of the larger cyberwar post 9/11, or at least the bits and pieces that surfaced for the nitwits among us, like: Stuxnet?

But nevermind. Don't forget developments and recent events around Eugene or Jewgeni Walentinowitsch Kasperski?

LondonBob , 05 September 2017 at 03:27 PM
The Russia thing certainly seems to have gone quiet.

Bannon's chum says the issue with pursuing the Clinton email thing is that you would end up having to indict almost all of the last administration, including Obama, unseemly certainly. Still there might be a fall guy, maybe Comey, and obviously it serves Trump's purposes to keep this a live issue through the good work of Grassley and the occasional tweet.

Would be amusing if Trump pardoned Obama. Still think Brennan should pay a price though, can't really be allowed to get away with it

Richardstevenhack , 05 September 2017 at 06:23 PM
Scott Ritter's article referenced in PT's post is terrific, covering a ton of issues related to CrowdStrike and the DNC hack. You need to read it, not just PT's timeline. In case you missed the link in PT's post:

Dumbstruck: How CrowdStrike Conned America on the Hack of the DNC https://medium.com/homefront-rising/dumbstruck-how-crowdstrike-conned-america-on-the-hack-of-the-dnc-ecfa522ff44f

The article by Jeffrey Carr on CrowdStrike referenced from back in 2012 is also worth reading: Where's the "Strike" in CrowdStrike? https://jeffreycarr.blogspot.com/2012/09/wheres-strike-in-crowdstrike.html

Also, the article Carr references is very important for understanding the limits of malware analysis and "attribution". Written by Michael Tanji, whose credentials appear impressive: "spent nearly 20 years in the US intelligence community. Trained in both SIGINT and HUMINT disciplines he has worked at the Defense Intelligence Agency, the National Security Agency, and the National Reconnaissance Office. At various points in his career he served as an expert in information warfare, computer network operations, computer forensics, and indications and warning. A veteran of the US Army, Michael has served in both strategic and tactical assignments in the Pacific Theater, the Balkans, and the Middle East."

Malware Analysis: The Danger of Connecting the Dots: https://www.oodaloop.com/technology/2012/09/11/malware-analysis-the-danger-of-connecting-the-dots/

His article echoes and reinforces what Carr and others have said about the difficulty of attribution of infosec breaches. Namely that the basic problem of both intelligence and infosec operations is that there is too much obfuscation, manipulation, and misdirection involved to be sure of who or what is going on.

The Seth Rich connection is pretty much a done deal, now that Sy Hersh has been caught on tape stating that he knows of an FBI report based on a forensic analysis of Rich's laptop that shows Rich was in direct contact with Wikileaks with an attempt to sell them DNC documents and that Wikileaks had access to Rich's DropBox account. Despite Hersh's subsequent denials - which everyone knows are his usual impatient deflections prior to putting out a sourced and organized article - it's pretty clear that Rich was at least one of the sources of the Wikileaks email dump and that there is zero connection to Russia.

None of this proves that Russian intelligence - or Russians of some stripe - or for that matter hackers from literally anywhere - couldn't or didn't ALSO do a hack of the DNC. But it does prove that the iron-clad attribution of the source of Wikileaks email release to Russia is at best flawed, and at worst a deliberate cover up of a leak.

And Russiagate depends primarily on BOTH alleged "facts" being true: 1) that Russia hacked the DNC, and 2) that Russia was the source of Wikileaks release. And if the latter is not true, then one has to question why Russia hacked the DNC in the first place, other than for "normal" espionage operations. "Influencing the election" then becomes a far less plausible theory.

The general takeaway from an infosec point of view is that attribution by means of target identification, tools used, and "indicators of compromise" is a fatally flawed means of identifying, and thus being able to counter, the adversaries encountered in today's Internet world, as Tanji proves. Only HUMINT offers a way around this, just as it is really the only valid option in countering terrorism.

[Sep 17, 2017] Empire Idiots by Linh Dinh

Highly recommended!
There are probably two factors here: The first is the real anger of Arab population against aggression by the USA and European states (mainly GB and Frnace). That what produces radicalized Muslims who can commit terrorist attacks.
The second factor is the desire of intelligence agencies to exploit those attacks for thier own purposes. For example, it is quite possible, that they are standing idle to the most stupid of them and disrupt others, more dangerous.
Notable quotes:
"... How many Muslims are needed to drive one suicide car? Five, of course. What's the best, most lethal vehicle for the purpose? The compact Audi A3, naturally. ..."
"... From 9/11, Charlie Hebdo, Paris' Bataclan Concert Hall, Berlin's Christmas Market to Barcelona, etc., Muslim mass murderers seem expert at leaving behind their identity papers. ..."
"... Classic examples of this type of "lost and found id" were Oswald's lost wallet and James Earl Ray's dropped bundle of documents (ML King) ..."
"... Arab folks are brimming with anger that is now being met by the anger of the natives. ..."
"... I think the author misses the role of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States, who appear to be the main financiers of the work performed by the above American Israel Empire. ..."
"... Perhaps the term Petrodollar Empire would be more accurate? As a bonus, it also complies better to the rules of political correctness. ..."
"... I am always deeply skeptical of these false flag claims. We bomb and kill arabs daily, yet create magnificent conspiracy theories to explain how it is someone else blowing crap up in vengeance. ..."
"... Why would Israel need to frame Muslim bombers when so many are so willing to do the job themselves and avenge their dead? Israel certainly pulls our strings to conduct the bombardment and they control American politics – why would they need to fabricate murders of random faceless Spaniards? How does that keep American taxpayers footing the bill for Zionism? ..."
"... It's really pretty simple isn't it? Before we decided to throw in with England and help genocide the Palestinians we had few problems with arabs. Now we've expanded our mission to include Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya, etc and our blowback is serious. The arabs are doing what I'd do if a foreign power bombed my family. I could not care less what happens to Israelis or arabs. We need to either nuke the entire Arab world or leave it the hell alone – none of them are worth a single American life. ..."
Sep 09, 2017 | www.unz.com

How many Muslims are needed to drive one suicide car? Five, of course. What's the best, most lethal vehicle for the purpose? The compact Audi A3, naturally. What's the best time to stage such an attack? 1:15AM, grasshopper, when there are almost nobody on the Paseo Maritimo. Finally, what should you wear for such a momentous and self-defining occasion? Fake suicide vests, stupid, because they serve no purpose besides giving cops an excuse to perforate you immediately.

... .. ...

Astonishingly moronic, the five Muslims in Cambrils made all the worst choices possible, but the rest of their "terrorist cell" weren't any smarter, it is said.

Eight hours earlier, a van had killed 14 people and injured 130+ more in Barcelona, and the purported driver of that van, 22-year-old Younes Aboyaaqoub, had rented the vehicle with his own credit card. Very stupid. He also left his IDs in a second van, meant as a get-away car.

From 9/11, Charlie Hebdo, Paris' Bataclan Concert Hall, Berlin's Christmas Market to Barcelona, etc., Muslim mass murderers seem expert at leaving behind their identity papers. Otherwise, the official narrative can't be broadcast immediately. Wait a week or a month for a proper investigation, and the public won't have any idea what you're talking about, fixated as they are on a Kardashian pumped up buttocks or Messi goal.

Brabantian, Website September 9, 2017 at 9:03 am GMT

List of Passport / ID documents found at terrorism attack scenes – at least 8, including those Linh Dinh mentions above

(1) – 11 Sep 2001 passport found in NYC towers rubble tho aeroplane had 'turned to vapour'
(2) – 7 Jul 2005 London bomboings – ID of '4th bomber' allegedly 'found by UK police'
(3) – 7 Jan 2015 Charlie Hebdo, passport in car in front of Paris Jewish deli where Mossad meets
(4) – 13 Nov 2015 Bataclan Paris passport flew from body 'after killer exploded his suicide vest'
(5) – 14 Jul 2016 Nice France lorry attack 'passport found'
(6) – 19 Dec 2016 Berlin Christmas market lorry attack 'ID found', after 24 hours of searching lorry cab
(7) – 22 May 2017 Manchester UK 'suicide bomber leaves ID' at scene amidst another 'terror on 22nd'
(8) – 17 Aug 2017 Barcelona deadly terror attack by white van, 'Spanish passport found in van'

Also related & of interest
'Mossad did the Barcelona attack' – Israel heavily involved with Barcelona police – from Aangirfan on her site

republic, September 9, 2017 at 11:43 am GMT

@Brabantian List of Passport / ID documents found at terrorism attack scenes - at least 8, including those Linh Dinh mentions above

(1) - 11 Sep 2001 passport found in NYC towers rubble tho aeroplane had 'turned to vapour'
(2) - 7 Jul 2005 London bomboings - ID of '4th bomber' allegedly 'found by UK police'
(3) - 7 Jan 2015 Charlie Hebdo, passport in car in front of Paris Jewish deli where Mossad meets
(4) - 13 Nov 2015 Bataclan Paris passport flew from body 'after killer exploded his suicide vest'
(5) - 14 Jul 2016 Nice France lorry attack 'passport found'
(6) - 19 Dec 2016 Berlin Christmas market lorry attack 'ID found', after 24 hours of searching lorry cab
(7) - 22 May 2017 Manchester UK 'suicide bomber leaves ID' at scene amidst another 'terror on 22nd'
(8) - 17 Aug 2017 Barcelona deadly terror attack by white van, 'Spanish passport found in van'

Also related & of interest
'Mossad did the Barcelona attack' - Israel heavily involved with Barcelona police - from Aangirfan on her site
http://aanirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2017/09/mossad-did-barcelona-attack.html
http://aanirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2017/09/barcelona-false-flag-part-3.html https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Lost_and_Found_ID

Classic examples of this type of "lost and found id" were Oswald's lost wallet and James Earl Ray's dropped bundle of documents (ML King)

Cranky, September 9, 2017 at 2:35 pm GMT

Dinh, you are a fool. The Spanish police until the last two decades were always a bit trigger happy. And then you forget the Guardia Civil. They were the people in charge of keeping Franco's Spain quiet, and it was quiet like the grave. The really funny part is the Arab folks are brimming with anger that is now being met by the anger of the natives. Read the Blood of Spain, and see the complicated relationship between Franco's Moros and how they ravaged parts of Spain during the Civil War. The really ironic part is these "radicalized" kids are simply fodder for the papers back home, and an excuse to begin the round ups and mass deportations.

Fascism is now returning to Europe because of the liberal insanity of open borders and mass immigration.

Go see this in Spain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valle_de_los_Ca%C3%ADdos

Built by the prisoners of France, and then ponder what it means when a people get tired of too much change.

Simpleguest, September 9, 2017 at 4:34 pm GMT

Nice read, indeed. Regarding the main idea of the article, that the:

" .. American Israel Empire is working nonstop to deform the Middle East, North Africa, Europe and, frankly, the rest of the world."

I think the author misses the role of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States, who appear to be the main financiers of the work performed by the above American Israel Empire.

Perhaps the term Petrodollar Empire would be more accurate? As a bonus, it also complies better to the rules of political correctness.

DFH, September 9, 2017 at 8:34 pm GMT

Which seems more likely prima facie , Muslim terrorism or that the whole thing was faked? The whole premise of this article seems to be that it's simply ludicrous that a Muslim would ever do something like ram a car into a crowd of people.

jacques sheete, September 9, 2017 at 11:36 pm GMT

You're being played, in short.

For sure. Deja vu all over again and again. Another fine one, LD!

Dumbo, September 10, 2017 at 3:47 am GMT

It's like in the great movie by Kurosawa, Yojimbo, one guy playing both sides one against the other. Except Sanjuro was a good guy trying to kill a bunch of thugs and bring peace to the town, while our globo-masters prefer to see innocent people being murdered and the world in chaos.

Anon, Disclaimer September 10, 2017 at 6:11 pm GMT

@Linh Dinh "Barcelona Massacre, the testimony of Bruno Gulotta's father," delivered a day after his son's death:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbvhAwlYgfA

Linh, the Orlando video seems obviously fake. For those who look for those things, there are plenty of give-aways. But what's your point with the Barcelona video? I don't speak Spanish or Catalan, as the case may be, but he seems to be fairly dispassionate and therefore not bullshitting. I do hope there was a point you were making. There is enough in what you say, so that your linguistic showing off is a pointless irritation. I would like to make my point with a pointless Hindi quip, but my phone doesn't support the script.

Dumbo, September 10, 2017 at 8:32 pm GMT

@fish

What Merkel has done in Germany is incredible. She took in a million, a million and a half refugees, and there has been no major problem. It has been a great success, a miracle."
Yeah....good luck with that! By the time this all sorts out historically Merkel will rate lower than ol Schickelgruber.

Mutti.....Europes greatest "Crazy Cat Lady"!

"and there has been no major problem"

Except for a few stabbings, shootings and bombings as well as general malaise and waste of taxpayer's money, but what is that compared to the glory of diversity?
Well, I guess Germany had too few kebab shops

"By the time this all sorts out historically Merkel will rate lower than ol Schickelgruber."

The problem of politics and especially democracy is that politicians act for short term gains, but their decisions affect everybody else in the long term. By the time the Scheiße hits the fan Merkel and her friends will be happily retired in Switzerland or Monaco.

Andrew Nichos, September 11, 2017 at 3:30 am GMT

You'd have to be blind and stupid not have noticed this convenient habit of Muslim terrorists. I wonder why the IRA/ Baader Meinhof/Brigata Rossi or the westher,men didn't have the same habit?

NoseytheDuke, September 11, 2017 at 4:26 am GMT

You'd have to be blind and stupid not have noticed this convenient habit of pseudo moslem terrorists. I wonder why the IRA/ Baader Meinhof/Brigata Rossi or the Weathermen didn't have the same habit?

I fixed that for you, mate. The frequency of this seemingly ritual habit is amazing I agree. It is certainly one for the Coincidence Theorists out there.

Erebus, September 11, 2017 at 5:39 am GMT

@Intelligent Dasein From the banner of this website:

A Collection of Interesting, Important, and Controversial Perspectives Largely Excluded from the American Mainstream Media
I am here reminded of Jerry Seinfeld's wise observation that "Sometimes the road less traveled is less traveled for a reason."

I would advise Ron Unz to take this saying to heart and to spike the execrable Linh Dinh from these pages, and his butt-buddy Revusky, too.

I am here reminded of Jerry Seinfeld's wise observation that "Sometimes the road less traveled is less traveled for a reason."

Seinfeld would have been wiser if he had said that it's always less travelled for a reason. That reason is invariably along the lines of it being less convenient, more arduous, and more challenging. It often takes you to uncomfortable places, and you have to leave your beloved baggage behind.
Most people naturally choose to walk the broad level path that's been thoughtfully laid out for them. It doesn't go anywhere at all, except maybe in a giant circle, so that it doesn't matter where they start or where they stop, but they get to keep and even accumulate baggage along the way and that's what travelling is all about, isn't it?

NoseytheDuke, September 11, 2017 at 11:42 am GMT

@utu Looks like Linh Dinh was turned by Revusky. Everything must be a hoax. This is their starting position: It is a hoax until proven otherwise.

And Revusky comes up with his cheap schtick about the "emotional register." As if he ever seen true reactions of real people who lost relatives? All his life like all the hoax mongering youtube yahoos he was exposed to movies with the overacted emotional displays by actors and this formed the baseline for the youtube yahoos and Revusky. So when he sees more measure reactions of real people he thinks it must be bad acting. Yes, if you haven't noticed, the real life is full of bad acting, you fool.

More interesting would be to read about how is the bromance evolving? Actually real life is usually quite authentic which is the 'real' part and since several big "terror"events have had some inexplicable aspects to them suggesting the involvement of trickery it would be wise to suspect that of other events too. If you've been mugged while walking in the street a couple of times it would be completely rational and indeed prudent if you crossed the street to avoid a stranger, or clutched a hidden weapon as a stranger approached. This is natural and the survival instinct at work.

As to the emotional register, most people have not studied acting yet they can spot poor acting on TV or in a movie very quickly because they have experienced human behaviour their entire lives. When the behaviour or physical action doesn't match the dialogue or situation it appears very odd to us. Some people are more observant than others, this is why professional actors like to study the traits and quirks of people.

Linh Dinh has written some really excellent articles as many commenters have approved and stated as much but if you don't like them why bother reading or commenting? Jonathan Revusky too has written some very worthwhile articles in my opinion but he doesn't seem to take criticism well and has made a few enemies here but again, if you don't like them why not spend your time reading the work of other people?

bb., September 11, 2017 at 12:36 pm GMT

i agree that the passports left behind all the time are a little bit weird. when some shit goes down, among friends, we jokingly ask if they found the passports yet? but it could also be that they want to leave them behind, as a martyr signature or something maybe. like now they recruited irma for their cause..saying god is on their side.
but then again..i am susceptible to consider weird shit. like the boston bombings for example. I saw a very strange video of a simulation of a bombing attack which looked very real, like tv footage, but maybe that's the point of a good simulation.
we live in weird times. information flow is corrupted and not to be trusted. stanislaw lem wrote about it 40years ago and I always think about it reading news.

escobar, September 11, 2017 at 1:05 pm GMT

Linh Dinh's and others' dark dreams:

The American Israel Empire, the Anglo Zionist Conspiracy, the Jew Bolshevik plot

How do the Jews have time for all that and make so much money, run their dentistry, legal, media, entertainment empires and lust after blond shiksa cheerleaders as well?
Maybe it's from those gefilte fish they eat, or from the chopped liver they do even better than this sample produced by Linh Dinh.

Joe Hide, September 11, 2017 at 1:16 pm GMT

Millions of us have been aware of the "Empire" for years now Linh. We just don't have access to the media expression as you do. We tend to be quiet about it until we sense a person or group is open to this Truth. Most people think inside the box because it's safe, comforting, and lacks unpleasant reactions. We who want the Truth value your articles, because we really do believe that "The Truth will set you free."

Santoculto, September 11, 2017 at 1:50 pm GMT

Francisco, a typical teacher of philosophy and never a real philosopher. Most of this "refugees" are permanent immigrants, that's why this "refugee crisis" is just a way to accelerate the capitulation of Europe. Real refugees came back to their countries when they have opportunity. In the end the most effective way to stop middle east conflicts must be done via exposition of real (((criminals))), the direct responsible for all this shit. Only the truth can solve any problem and (((problem))).

Teacher of history's philosophy, what most of this "philosophers" are. Real philosophers learn/or invent and teach real or valid philosophical methods of thinking/analytical-critical thinking and of course subsequent action/application.

anonymous, Disclaimer September 11, 2017 at 2:34 pm GMT

The author is claiming it's all fake because the participants were inept and stupid. They possibly were being monitored and followed all along. That doesn't make it a staged fake event. "Kosher Nostra"? What's that supposed to mean? Jews are scapegoated for what Muslims do and have been doing for close to fourteen hundred years? It took the Spanish hundreds of years of struggle to free themselves from Muslim overlordship and now they're just supposed to wash their brains of any historical memory? Those third worlders written about so lovingly add nothing to Spain besides just some food joints. The author doesn't live there anyway so why is he telling them how to live?"Drugged and inflamed" is not necessarily true of all of America. The author is probably an alcoholic and needs to stop hanging around craphole taverns with all those dysfunctional boozers.

Hairway To Steven, September 11, 2017 at 8:30 pm GMT

Conspiracy theories like those expressed in this article and in many of the comments are for those either lacking the good sense to appreciate that the world is complex or the intellectual patience to sort through that complexity.

In the absence of these qualities, conspiracy nuts come up with unified theories that "explain everything" (e.g., the Jews control the world).

Actually moving out of the basement of their mom's house, or even losing their virginity, might help, but most of these sweaty little pamphleteers are lost causes whose lives rarely extend beyond a circle of like-minded friends and the insular concerns expressed in their over-heated and under-read blogs.

Stan d Mute, September 11, 2017 at 10:34 pm GMT

@DFH Which seems more likely prima facie , Muslim terrorism or that the whole thing was faked?
The whole premise of this article seems to be that it's simply ludicrous that a Muslim would ever do something like ram a car into a crowd of people.

Which seems more likely prima facie, Muslim terrorism or that the whole thing was faked?
The whole premise of this article seems to be that it's simply ludicrous that a Muslim would ever do something like ram a car into a crowd of people.

I am always deeply skeptical of these false flag claims. We bomb and kill arabs daily, yet create magnificent conspiracy theories to explain how it is someone else blowing crap up in vengeance.

Why would Israel need to frame Muslim bombers when so many are so willing to do the job themselves and avenge their dead? Israel certainly pulls our strings to conduct the bombardment and they control American politics – why would they need to fabricate murders of random faceless Spaniards? How does that keep American taxpayers footing the bill for Zionism?

It's really pretty simple isn't it? Before we decided to throw in with England and help genocide the Palestinians we had few problems with arabs. Now we've expanded our mission to include Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya, etc and our blowback is serious. The arabs are doing what I'd do if a foreign power bombed my family. I could not care less what happens to Israelis or arabs. We need to either nuke the entire Arab world or leave it the hell alone – none of them are worth a single American life.

Art, September 12, 2017 at 2:30 am GMT

How stupid must you be to not see that the American Israel Empire has rigged every aspect of your reality?

...The pattern of human nature that they use is called the Stockholm syndrome.

It has been documented that a group of people can be turned against themselves when they are captured and terrorized, and in the process, they are propagandized to believe that the terrorizers themselves are the true victims. The terrorists tell the those they captured, that they are doing this because they themselves are the real victims.

The syndrome is that the captured group begin to sympathize with their terrorists. They take to heart that the terrorists are indeed victims, and that they should be supported. .

... ... ...

Think Peace -- Art

Stan d Mute, September 12, 2017 at 2:50 am GMT

@ChuckOrloski "... none of them are worth an American life."

Stan d Mute,

The dangerous thing about your rather common conclusion (above) is the stinky fact that, for the sake of creating Greater Israel, Neoconservatives are in your "Amen Corner" and also would green light the "nuking" of Iran.

Thank you.

Neoconservatives are in your "Amen Corner" and also would green light the "nuking" of Iran.

Don't paint me with your misrepresentation. I wrote " nuke the entire Arab world " Your Iran reply is a strawman.

Few neocons would endorse my suggestion to either obliterate the Middle East (drill for oil through the glass) or abandon their first loyalty of Zionism and all resulting meddling and murdering in the region.

Tell it like it is, September 12, 2017 at 10:05 pm GMT

Cry me a river. No sympathy from me. This article is completely one sided. What kind of investigative reporting is this when the author didn't even interview the police and review the evidence, but simply hurl out accusations through hearsay from the average guys on the street.

... ... ...

denk, September 13, 2017 at 3:32 pm GMT

The terror factory

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article34322.htm

It has already been exposed that 95% of domestic 'terror attacks' were FBI/CIA
false flags.

[Aug 24, 2017] Vault 7 release includes revelation of CIA capability to allow it to misdirect the attribution of cyber attacks leaving behind the fingerprints of the very groups that the attack techniques were stolen from

Aug 24, 2017 | www.moonofalabama.org

Robert Beal | Aug 24, 2017 12:47:02 PM | 17

"Only recently did the "collusion with Russia" nonsense suddenly die down."

My short letter to the editor of The New Yorker (see last sentence):

Raffi Katchadourian ("Julian Assange, a man without a country," Aug. 21, 2017) didn't mention Wikileak's Vault 7 release includes revelation of CIA capability to allow it to misdirect the attribution of cyber attacks. According to Wikileaks, the U.S. false-flag technology consists of "leaving behind the 'fingerprints' of the very groups that the attack techniques were stolen from."

Karchadourian's omission belies his assertion: "Whatever one thinks of Assange's election disclosures, accepting his contention that they shared no ties with the two Russian fronts requires willful blindness."

His article, of near-record length for the magazine, exhaustively attempts to resuscitate speculation about a Russian cyber connection to the Clinton meltdown.

[Jul 30, 2017] Mainstream News Manipulation of US Public

McGovern thinks that it was Brennan boys who hacked into DNC as a part of conspiracy to implicate Russia and to secure Hillary win. One of the resons was probably that DNC servers were not well protected and there were other hacks, about whihc NSA know. So the sad state of DNC internet security needed to be swiped under the carpet and that's why CrowdStike was hired.
NSA created 7 million lines of code for penetration and that includes those that were pablished by Wikileaks and designed to imitate that attackers are coming (and using the language) from: China, North Korea, Iran and Russia.
Also NSA probably intercepts and keeps all Internet communications for a month or two so if it was a hack NSA knows who did it and what was stolen
But the most unexplainable part was that fact that FBI was denied accessing the evidence. I always think that thye can dictate that they need to see in such cases, but obviously this was not the case.
Notable quotes:
"... She couldn't pack a school gymnasium while Trumps rallies were packed with 10's of thousands. ..."
Jul 30, 2017 | www.youtube.com

Anna C 1 month ago

LEGAL, WIKIMEDIA V. NSA Discussing fake news and the NSA lawsuit at Yale | https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/06/16/fake-news-nsa-lawsuit-yale/

Tracy Spose 1 month ago

Love the rest of the talk, but no way did Hillary win. No way did she get the popular vote.

The woman was calling for war and reinstating the draft on men and women. She couldn't pack a school gymnasium while Trumps rallies were packed with 10's of thousands.

[Jul 26, 2017] So, what about 9-11, Mr. Giraldi?

Notable quotes:
"... This same point was also made by veteran CIA agent Milt Bearden. Speaking disparagingly of "the myth of Osama bin Laden" on CBS News the day after 9/11, Bearden said: "I was there [in Afghanistan] at the same time bin Laden was there. He was not the great warrior." With regard to the widespread view that bin Laden was behind the attacks, he said: "This was a tremendously sophisticated operation against the United States-more sophisticated than anybody would have ascribed to Osama bin Laden." Pointing out that a group capable of such a sophisticated attack would have had a way to cover their tracks, he added: "This group who was responsible for that, if they didn't have an Osama bin Laden out there, they'd invent one, because he's a terrific diversion."[110] ..."
Jul 26, 2017 | www.unz.com

L.K , June 6, 2017 at 6:25 pm GMT

So, what about 9-11, Mr. Giraldi?

Are you guys going to allow it to become another USS Liberty?

The official story is clearly bunk & zionist fingerprints are all over it.

Regarding the matter of whether or not bin Laden and 'al-Qaeda' were even capable of orchestrating the 9-11 Attacks, author and professor David Ray Griffin, wrote:

For prosecutors to prove that defendants committed a crime, they must show that they had the ability (as well as the motive and opportunity) to do so.
But several political and military leaders from other countries have stated that bin Laden and al-Qaeda simply could not have carried out the attacks.
General Leonid Ivashov, who in 2001 was the chief of staff for the Russian armed forces, wrote:

"Only secret services and their current chiefs-or those retired but still having influence inside the state organizations-have the ability to plan, organize and conduct an operation of such magnitude Osama bin Laden and "Al Qaeda" cannot be the organizers nor the performers of the September 11 attacks. They do not have the necessary organization, resources or leaders."

Similar statements have been made by Andreas von Bülow, the former state secretary of West Germany's ministry of defense, by General Mirza Aslam Beg, former chief of staff of Pakistan's army, and even General Musharraf, the president of Pakistan until recently.[109]

This same point was also made by veteran CIA agent Milt Bearden. Speaking disparagingly of "the myth of Osama bin Laden" on CBS News the day after 9/11, Bearden said: "I was there [in Afghanistan] at the same time bin Laden was there. He was not the great warrior." With regard to the widespread view that bin Laden was behind the attacks, he said: "This was a tremendously sophisticated operation against the United States-more sophisticated than anybody would have ascribed to Osama bin Laden." Pointing out that a group capable of such a sophisticated attack would have had a way to cover their tracks, he added: "This group who was responsible for that, if they didn't have an Osama bin Laden out there, they'd invent one, because he's a terrific diversion."[110]

L.K June 6, 2017 at 6:36 pm GMT

I wonder; the USS Liberty was attacked many years before I was even born

2017 now, and the Israeli attack remains largely unknown to zamericans quite amazing and a testament to something hardly ever discussed; Jewish power the Zionist Power Configuration

Before the USS Liberty, there was the Lavon Affair probably even less zamericans heard of that one:

Eight years after the bombing of the King David Hotel, the State of Israel carried out a series of false-flag terror bombings against U.S. and British libraries, theatres, and other government institutions in Egypt in a terror campaign designed to be blamed on Egyptian groups. This Israeli terror campaign of July 1954 is often referred to as the "Lavon Affair" after Pinhas Lavon, the Israeli defense minister at the time.

In 2001, we had 9-11, instantly, and without any real investigation or proof, conveniently blamed on Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda. The new Pearl Harbor has zionist fingerprints all over it.

The "investigation" was a complete farce, 100% a cover-up. Evidence quickly destroyed, lies planted by the zio controlled media framing "muslim terrorism", and then the totally fraudulent and ongoing war on "Terror" was launched.

Given that after so many decades there is still no clarity re the treacherous israeli attack on the USS Liberty and little talk of the Lavon 'affair', the zionist rats are probably confident 9-11 will be a repeat of previous zionist ops against ZUSA, their responsibility never revealed.
"Solving 9-11: The Deception that Changed the World":
http://bollyn.com/solving-9-11-the-book

Chapter III – America the Target: 9-11 and Israel's History of False Flag Terrorism
http://bollyn.com/solving-9-11-the-book#article_11279

The Israeli Origin of 9/11 and the War on Terror May 8, 2017 http://bollyn.com/#article_15904

jilles dykstra June 6, 2017 at 7:54 pm GMT

@L.K Sept 11 sophisticated ?
It was a mess.
The explosives in the Twin Towers went off too quickly after one another.
Too much thermite was used, three weeks after sept 11 there still was molten iron in the basements.
The 47 stories building was blown up with explosives on the ground floor.
The four 'hijacked' planes could not be used.
The first plane flying into a tower had a bubble under the plane that passenger planes do not have.
The second plane had no windows.
No plane crashed in Pennsylvania, just a rocket was fired from a jet.
No passenger plane flew into the Pentagon, probably a remote controlled fighter with a missile underneath.

The Sept 11 miracle was that despite the mess in general the public could be fooled. The public even believed that NORAD could not see planes with transponders switched off, did not see that Cheney 'happened' to be there to destroy the tapes on which the flights of the four 'hijacked' planes were recorded, and the other flights: the planes that did fly into the towers, the jet over Pennsylvania, and the jet that flew into the Pentagon.
Where these planes came from, probably some secret CIA base.

L.K June 7, 2017 at 6:25 pm GMT

I mentioned several specialists in a previous post, who stated that the official Bin Laden/Al-Qaeda narrative was an impossible one. C. Bollyn talked to 2 other such Intel specialists;

In Germany, I had the opportunity to interview Andreas von Bülow near Köln. Von Bülow, an author and former member of the Bundestag (the German parliament) served on the parliamentary commission which oversees the three branches of the German secret service. Von Bülow said he thought Israel's intelligence service, Mossad, was behind the 9-11 attacks. These attacks, he said, were carried out to turn public opinion against the Arabs and boost military and security spending.

"You don't get the higher echelons," von Bülow said, referring to the "architectural structure" which masterminds such terror attacks. At this level, he said, the organization doing the planning, such as Mossad, is primarily interested in affecting public opinion. The terrorists who actually commit the crimes are what von Bülow calls "the working level," such as the nineteen Arabs who allegedly hijacked the planes on September 11. "The working level is part of the deception," he said.

"Ninety-five percent of the work of the intelligence agencies around the world is deception and disinformation," he said, which is widely propagated in the mainstream media creating an accepted version of events. "Journalists don't even raise the simplest questions," he said. "Those who differ are labeled as crazy."

Eckehardt Werthebach, the former president of the Verfassungsschutz (a branch of German intelligence), told me that "the deathly precision" and "the magnitude of planning" behind the attacks would have needed "years of planning." Such a sophisticated operation, Werthebach said, required the "fixed frame" of a state intelligence organization, something not found in a "loose group" of terrorists. Both Werthebach and von Bülow said the lack of a complete "blue ribbon" investigation, with congressional hearings, into the events of September 11 was incomprehensible. These men made more sense to me than anyone in the U.S. government or media.

Rurik June 7, 2017 at 10:03 pm GMT

@L.K I mentioned several specialists in a previous post, who stated that the official Bin Laden/Al-Qaeda narrative was an impossible one. C. Bollyn talked to 2 other such Intel specialists;


In Germany, I had the opportunity to interview Andreas von Bülow near Köln. Von Bülow, an author and former member of the Bundestag (the German parliament) served on the parliamentary commission which oversees the three branches of the German secret service. Von Bülow said he thought Israel's intelligence service, Mossad, was behind the 9-11 attacks. These attacks, he said, were carried out to turn public opinion against the Arabs and boost military and security spending.

"You don't get the higher echelons," von Bülow said, referring to the "architectural structure" which masterminds such terror attacks. At this level, he said, the organization doing the planning, such as Mossad, is primarily interested in affecting public opinion. The terrorists who actually commit the crimes are what von Bülow calls "the working level," such as the nineteen Arabs who allegedly hijacked the planes on September 11. "The working level is part of the deception," he said.

"Ninety-five percent of the work of the intelligence agencies around the world is deception and disinformation," he said, which is widely propagated in the mainstream media creating an accepted version of events. "Journalists don't even raise the simplest questions," he said. "Those who differ are labeled as crazy."

Eckehardt Werthebach, the former president of the Verfassungsschutz (a branch of German intelligence), told me that "the deathly precision" and "the magnitude of planning" behind the attacks would have needed "years of planning." Such a sophisticated operation, Werthebach said, required the "fixed frame" of a state intelligence organization, something not found in a "loose group" of terrorists. Both Werthebach and von Bülow said the lack of a complete "blue ribbon" investigation, with congressional hearings, into the events of September 11 was incomprehensible. These men made more sense to me than anyone in the U.S. government or media.

.. Israel's intelligence service, Mossad, was behind the 9-11 attacks. These attacks, he said, were carried out to turn public opinion against the Arabs and boost military and security spending.

not only that LK, but also to turn the American people into Palestinians, with check points and treating us at the airports as if we're all terrorists. Not to mention total surveillance of our every email or phone conversation, every text and every thing our 'smart' phone cameras see.

Just as Ehud Barak predicted on 9/11, 'nothing will be the same'

these psychopathic fiends are so far beyond the Pale, that it boggles the mind.

they slaughter our citizens in horrific balls of fire, then they tell the people in the other tower to return to their work stations and cubicles knowing the second plane is on its way, hoping for maximum casualties.

"it's very good" after all

and then they set about systematically dismantling our hard-won Constitutional rights as they send off our young people as cannon fodder to die in illegal wars on innocent nations. Earning the well-deserved hatred of the entire Islamic world.

charming people these zio-scum, eh?

but far, far worse are the American politicians and media whores who enable them

Bollyn as you point out is an true American patriot. Thanks for the links

[Jul 02, 2017] Warning! The USA preparing a new chemical attack in Syria

Jul 02, 2017 | marknesop.wordpress.com

Moscow Exile ,

June 30, 2017 at 10:37 pm

https://www.youtube.com/embed/109ERbPA4Qs?version=3&rel=1&fs=1&autohide=2&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&wmode=transparent


What a patronising, smirking piece of shit that spokesthing for the US government is!
marknesop , June 30, 2017 at 10:51 pm
She's just what they're looking for. They keep changing the spokesholes for the State Department pressers because they're looking for a way to defend the indefensible. If the rest of the people in the room actually are reporters who eat, sleep and breathe news, they know very well that there is – at the very least – doubt that Assad actually carried out any chemical attacks on 'his own people'. They know 'rebel' groups in Syria do possess chemical weapons, and there is considerable evidence of their staging events to pluck western heartstrings and initiate a western intervention to overthrow Assad. So when she just talks over him and repeats government talking points, they all know what she's doing. They all also know that the United States government continually claims to have irrefutable evidence of this thing and that war crime which it will not disclose. None of it, except for the shite they get from social media. You're just supposed to take their word for it.

That would be fine if they had never been caught in a lie. Or even not very often. As the situation is, well

Moscow Exile , July 1, 2017 at 12:05 am
Compare the performance of the US blonde spokeswoman with that of the Russian blonde spokeswoman.

Zakharova [09:57]:

" There are experts and they should be working. If we make conclusions that are based on politically charged motivations, then this is what we are witnessing now and shall continue to do so ".

The US journalist, in response to Zakharova's detailed criticism of the US policy of shooting first and not asking questions, namely of not using appointed specialists on the ground to check claims of who was/is responsible for chemical weapons attacks but instead just acting on what Washington thinks was/is the "reality" of the situation (and remember, there are some in Washington who claim that "reality" is their creation!), says that it is too dangerous for appointed investigators into chemical weapon usage to enter terrorist occupied zones in order to check on the facts [10:08]:

" But experts can't [get there] "

Zakharova responds [10:15]:

" But why can't they get there? Why exactly can't they get there? Is it Damascus saying that they can't go in? "

The US journalist states that Idlib is a "different situation" [10:27]

Zakharova [10:35], who now appears to be somewhat amused by the journalist's line of thought:

" So what, then, is the logic? If there is no security there, then we can make binding resolutions that are based on absolutely nothing at all? Is that correct? But that's well, that's well that's some kind of madness! "

The journalist then repeats that it still is very difficult, very dangerous, to enter the combat zones.

Zakharova replies [10:55]"

" So let's go to plan B - Colin Powell with a test-tube! Do I understand you correctly? If it's too dangerous to go there, then let's make decisions based on absolutely falsified grounds. But from our point of view, they have no basis upon which an objective opinion can be decided ".

Zakhorova then goes on to rip the US journalist's contentions apart in a manner vastly different to the way in which the US spokeswoman, Nauert, dealt with the journalist in Washington, who posed questions that she openly sneered and smirked at, as can be seen at the beginning of the clip.

Nauert , by the way, who is a former member of the Council on Foreign Relations , is married to Scott Norby, an investment banker who works at Goldman Sachs.

She is also employed by Fox News, FFS!

[Jun 14, 2017] Strange Oversight by Comey tells us a lot by Ray McGovern

Notable quotes:
"... Given the stakes involved in the Russia-gate investigation – now including a possible impeachment battle over removing the President of the United States – wouldn't it seem logical for the FBI to insist on its own forensics for this fundamental predicate of the case? Or could Comey's hesitancy to demand access to the DNC's computers be explained by a fear that FBI technicians not fully briefed on CIA/NSA/FBI Deep State programs might uncover a lot more than he wanted? ..."
"... "In the case of the DNC, and, I believe, the DCCC, but I'm sure the DNC, we did not have access to the devices themselves. We got relevant forensic information from a private party, a high-class entity, that had done the work. But we didn't get direct access." ..."
"... "Isn't content an important part of the forensics from a counterintelligence standpoint?" ..."
"... "It is, although what was briefed to me by my folks – the people who were my folks at the time is that they had gotten the information from the private party that they needed to understand the intrusion by the spring of 2016." ..."
"... Burr demurred on asking Comey to explain what amounts to gross misfeasance, if not worse. Perhaps, NBC could arrange for Megyn Kelly to interview Burr to ask if he has a clue as to what Putin might have been referring to when he noted, "There may be hackers, by the way, in the United States who very craftily and professionally passed the buck to Russia." ..."
"... Given the congressional intelligence "oversight" committees' obsequiousness and repeated "high esteem" for the "intelligence community," there seems an even chance that – no doubt because of an oversight – the CIA/FBI/NSA deep-stage troika failed to brief the Senate "oversight committee" chairman on WikiLeaks "Vault 7" disclosures – even when WikiLeaks publishes original CIA documents. ..."
Jun 13, 2017 | original.antiwar.com

Given the stakes involved in the Russia-gate investigation – now including a possible impeachment battle over removing the President of the United States – wouldn't it seem logical for the FBI to insist on its own forensics for this fundamental predicate of the case? Or could Comey's hesitancy to demand access to the DNC's computers be explained by a fear that FBI technicians not fully briefed on CIA/NSA/FBI Deep State programs might uncover a lot more than he wanted?

Comey was asked again about this curious oversight on June 8 by Senate Intelligence Committee Chair Richard Burr:

BURR: "And the FBI, in this case, unlike other cases that you might investigate – did you ever have access to the actual hardware that was hacked? Or did you have to rely on a third party to provide you the data that they had collected?"

COMEY: "In the case of the DNC, and, I believe, the DCCC, but I'm sure the DNC, we did not have access to the devices themselves. We got relevant forensic information from a private party, a high-class entity, that had done the work. But we didn't get direct access."

BURR: "But no content?"

COMEY: "Correct."

BURR: "Isn't content an important part of the forensics from a counterintelligence standpoint?"

COMEY: "It is, although what was briefed to me by my folks – the people who were my folks at the time is that they had gotten the information from the private party that they needed to understand the intrusion by the spring of 2016."

Burr demurred on asking Comey to explain what amounts to gross misfeasance, if not worse. Perhaps, NBC could arrange for Megyn Kelly to interview Burr to ask if he has a clue as to what Putin might have been referring to when he noted, "There may be hackers, by the way, in the United States who very craftily and professionally passed the buck to Russia."

Given the congressional intelligence "oversight" committees' obsequiousness and repeated "high esteem" for the "intelligence community," there seems an even chance that – no doubt because of an oversight – the CIA/FBI/NSA deep-stage troika failed to brief the Senate "oversight committee" chairman on WikiLeaks "Vault 7" disclosures – even when WikiLeaks publishes original CIA documents.

Ray McGovern works with Tell the Word, a publishing arm of the ecumenical Church of the Saviour in inner-city Washington. He was an Army Infantry/Intelligence officer and CIA analyst for a total of 30 years and now servers on the Steering Group of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS). Reprinted with permission from Consortium News .

[Jun 14, 2017] The Saudi War Against Qatar by Justin Raimondo

Notable quotes:
"... Which leads us to a larger question: who benefits? Clearly both the Saudis and the Israelis – whose semi-clandestine alliance has been documented in this space – had everything to gain from this intra-Arab spat. United by fear and hatred of Iran, Riyadh and Tel Aviv have been quietly cooperating to unite the Sunni Arabs against Iran – and draw the United States into open conflict with Tehran. Both abhorred and denounced the Iran deal, and are seeking to actively undermine it: that's another item at the top of the FDD/UAE meet up. ..."
"... Another factor is the relationship between Mr. Al-Taiba and Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law and a powerful figure in the administration: the ambassador has been described as Kushner's " mentor " when it comes to schooling him on all matters Middle Eastern. Kushner, for his part, is a strong advocate for Israel. ..."
"... There are no innocents, no "good guys" in this part of the world: the reality is that all of these Middle Eastern actors have been subsidizing terrorist outfits, in Syria and elsewhere. The Saudis are perhaps the worst offenders : their worldwide network of radical Wahabist mosques and "educational" outfits has been pushing a terrorist agenda for decades. ..."
"... The UAE has also been a lucrative source of funding for radical Islamic terrorism, notably in Afghanistan and Pakistan . And while Qatar has not been stingy in this regard, its stance has been notably non-sectarian: while they've given support to the Muslim Brotherhood – perhaps the least radical Sunni organization – they are also capable of sending official congratulations to recently re-elected Iranian President Hassan Rouhani. ..."
"... This is their great "sin" in the eyes of the Saudi-led Sunni Axis: they have tried to mediate the Sunni-Shi'ite religious war, which threatens the entire region with the kind of bloody turmoil that occasioned Europe's Thirty Years' War between Catholics and Protestants. ..."
"... The crazy notion that Iran is the world's leading exporter of terrorism is a page right out of the Israeli-Saudi playbook ..."
"... The Saudi-Qatari conflict has all the hallmarks of a joint Saudi-Israeli operation, complete with cyber-hacking, a full-scale propaganda war, and a clueless Uncle Sam stupidly falling for a brazen deception. What's amazing is that, despite the plethora of evidence that the whole thing is a pretty transparent put up job, the usual suspects continue to get away with it. ..."
www.moonofalabama.org

Despite the Qataris' claim – since verified by the FBI, according to Qatar's foreign minister – that the Qatar News Agency site had been hacked, and that the Emir had given no such speech, both the Saudis and the UAkE, through their official media outlets, launched a campaign targeting Qatar. Overflight rights were revoked: diplomatic contacts ended: Qatar citizens were forbidden to enter Saudi/UAE territory even to change planes. And in a public statement delivered in the rose garden of the White House President Trump clearly sided with the Saudi/UAE consortium, complementing a series of remarkably stupid tweets that basically said the same thing.

The US news media managed to get a Russian angle on all this, claiming that "Russian hackers" were behind the targeting of the Qatar News Agency: as usual they offered no evidence for this assertion. Yet just who was behind this hacking incident seems crucial to understanding the real genesis of – and motive behind – the Qatar controversy, which could augur a new regional crisis possibly dragging in Iran.

So let's look at the timeline in the context of yet another hacking incident, this one involving the hotmail account of Yousef Al-Otaiba, the UAE's well-connected ambassador to the US. The Saudi-Qatari conflict has all the hallmarks of a joint Saudi-Israeli operation, complete with cyber-hacking, a full-scale propaganda war, and a clueless Uncle Sam stupidly falling for a brazen deception. What's amazing is that, despite the plethora of evidence that the whole thing is a pretty transparent put up job, the usual suspects continue to get away with it. he hackers, who call themselves "GlobalLeaks," released a tranche of emails between Al-Taiba and individuals connected to the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies (FDD). The Foundation is a pro-Israel thinktank originally called "Emet: An Educational Initiative, Inc.," founded in 2001 by a group of pro-Israel billionaires and designed to blunt growing American sympathy for the Palestinians. FDD has since expanded its mission, under chief honcho Clifford May, to encompass a full-scale projection of Israeli propaganda in the US. The Otaiba-FDD emails reveal extensive cooperation between the ostensibly ultra-Islamic UAE – which, like its Saudi allies and much of the Arab world, has never recognized the state of Israel - and the staunchly Zionist FDD. (See some of the emails here, here, here, and here.) A great deal of the back and forth is between FDD general counsel and former Bush era National Security Advisor John Hannah and Mr. Al-Otaiba.

The emails detail FDD's efforts to show Al-Otaiba that UAE companies doing business with Iran need to be sanctioned: a "target list" is included. The correspondence also details plans for a June 11-14 meeting with FDD personnel and UAE political and military officials, including the ambassador, FDD CEO Mark Dubowitz, and former US defense secretary Robert Gates. And most significantly, on the agenda was "discussion of possible U.S./UAE policies to positively impact Iranian internal situation" including "political, economic, military, intelligence, and cyber tools" designed to "contain and defeat Iranian aggression."

Hmmmm "cyber tools," eh?

Now add to the timeline this reporting by the New York Times:

"[T]hree days after the Trump meeting in Riyadh, the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies held a conference in Washington dedicated to criticism of Qatar, titled 'Qatar and the Muslim Brotherhood's Global Affiliates.'

"Robert M. Gates, the former defense secretary and a friend of Mr. Otaiba, gave the keynote. Attendees included many of the authors of the critical op-ed articles and senior Obama administration officials. Organizers encouraged Mr. Otaiba to attend, and his staff sent Abu Dhabi, the Emirati capital, a detailed report.

"No representative of Qatar was invited. The hack of the Qatari news agency took place after midnight that night."

What a coincidence!

As this piece in the Washington Post puts it, the speculation that "Russian hackers" under Russian state control are behind the Qatar hack is "unlikely." Emails from the hackers bearing Russian "(.ru) addresses seem designed to put detectives off the trail. The Post piece avers that hackers-for-hire were the responsible parties, but the question is: who were they working for?

Which leads us to a larger question: who benefits? Clearly both the Saudis and the Israelis – whose semi-clandestine alliance has been documented in this space – had everything to gain from this intra-Arab spat. United by fear and hatred of Iran, Riyadh and Tel Aviv have been quietly cooperating to unite the Sunni Arabs against Iran – and draw the United States into open conflict with Tehran. Both abhorred and denounced the Iran deal, and are seeking to actively undermine it: that's another item at the top of the FDD/UAE meet up.

Another factor is the relationship between Mr. Al-Taiba and Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law and a powerful figure in the administration: the ambassador has been described as Kushner's "mentor" when it comes to schooling him on all matters Middle Eastern. Kushner, for his part, is a strong advocate for Israel.

There are no innocents, no "good guys" in this part of the world: the reality is that all of these Middle Eastern actors have been subsidizing terrorist outfits, in Syria and elsewhere. The Saudis are perhaps the worst offenders: their worldwide network of radical Wahabist mosques and "educational" outfits has been pushing a terrorist agenda for decades.

The UAE has also been a lucrative source of funding for radical Islamic terrorism, notably in Afghanistan and Pakistan. And while Qatar has not been stingy in this regard, its stance has been notably non-sectarian: while they've given support to the Muslim Brotherhood – perhaps the least radical Sunni organization – they are also capable of sending official congratulations to recently re-elected Iranian President Hassan Rouhani.

This is their great "sin" in the eyes of the Saudi-led Sunni Axis: they have tried to mediate the Sunni-Shi'ite religious war, which threatens the entire region with the kind of bloody turmoil that occasioned Europe's Thirty Years' War between Catholics and Protestants.

The idea that Qatar is solely responsible for the growth and development of Middle Eastern terrorism is laughable on its face: that narrative simply won't stand even the most careless scrutiny. And the proposition that Saudi Arabia is any kind of anti-terrorist bulwark is a cruel joke. That the Trump administration is taking this line is absolutely criminal: it amounts to appeasing and succoring the epicenter of radical Islamic terrorism.

The crazy notion that Iran is the world's leading exporter of terrorism is a page right out of the Israeli-Saudi playbook: for the Trump administration to echo this nonsense contradicts the facts and contravenes American interests in the region. For it is the Saudis who have been funding and arming ISIS, and al-Qaeda, in Syria. And the Israelis have openly proclaimed their preference for ISIS over Syrian strongman Bashar al-Assad. It is radical Sunni fundamentalists, not pro-Iranian Shi'ites, who have been conducting a global jihad against American and European targets. Iran is fighting ISIS in Syria – while the US in bombing Syrian government troops, the main obstacle to the ISIS/al-Qaeda forces.

The Saudi-Qatari conflict has all the hallmarks of a joint Saudi-Israeli operation, complete with cyber-hacking, a full-scale propaganda war, and a clueless Uncle Sam stupidly falling for a brazen deception. What's amazing is that, despite the plethora of evidence that the whole thing is a pretty transparent put up job, the usual suspects continue to get away with it.

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[Jun 10, 2017] Comey and Mueller Russiagates Mythical Heroes

Notable quotes:
"... Mueller was even okay with the CIA conducting torture programs after his own agents warned against participation. Agents were simply instructed not to document such torture, and any "war crimes files" were made to disappear. Not only did "collect it all" surveillance and torture programs continue, but Mueller's (and then Comey's) FBI later worked to prosecute NSA and CIA whistleblowers who revealed these illegalities. ..."
"... Mueller didn't speak the truth about a war he knew to be unjustified. He didn't speak out against torture. He didn't speak out against unconstitutional surveillance. And he didn't tell the truth about 9/11. He is just "their man." ..."
"... Since Mueller was apparently appointed at least in part as a result of Comey's leak, and no evidence has been shown of the phony Russia charges despite months of possibly extra-legal digging, Mueller's appointment should be cancelled and his office liquidated if that can be done in some fashion. If not, may be he should show more integrity than has heretofore been the case and liquidate the office himself. ..."
"... My old San Fran days memory recalls that "liberal" Democrat Diane Feinstein nominated neo-nazi Republican Mueller to US Attorney for N. California. I recall some thought because her husband was under investigation for a corrupt arms deal. That's just my memory ..."
"... So Clinton's odd lesbian Attorney General helped boost a Republican to greater powers. ..."
"... He was referring specifically to a widely publicized Sept. 14 statement in which he offered assurances - later proved to be false - that the bureau had no warning that terrorists might be training in American flight schools. On Sept. 17, Mr. Mueller went further, saying he knew of "no warning signs" of any sort of attack. ..."
"... Senator Charles E. Grassley, an Iowa Republican who is on the Judiciary Committee, said his staff investigators would explore the accusations made by the Minneapolis agent, Coleen Rowley, that Mr. Mueller and other senior F.B.I. officials had intentionally shaded the truth about the investigation last summer of Zacarias Moussaoui." ..."
"... To summarize, we have a "Republican" from Northern California nominated by a "liberal" Democrat to become part of the Clinton "Justice" department who played a key role as FBI Director to cover 9-11. He now reappears from the grave with great praise from Democrats openly plotting to overthrow President Trump to investigate absurdly silly things like speaking to Russian diplomats. Let us recall Trump openly expressed doubts about the 9-11 twin towers ruse on 9-11! ..."
"... The 911 cover up team is now about to take President Trump down over yet another false flag, and this team would include the leadership of both parties. How convenient that the Democrats are doing the dirty work so that Fox News and the rest can now engage in covering up the Republicans' behind-the-scenes role in all this. ..."
"... March 07, 2017 CIA Leak: "Russian Election Hackers" May Work In Langley ..."
"... Attribution of cyber-intrusions and attacks is nearly impossible. A well executed attack can not be traced back to its culprit. If there are some trails that seem attributable one should be very cautions following them. They are likely faked. ..."
"... Although many details are still hazy because of secrecy – and further befogged by politics – it appears House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes was informed last week about invasive electronic surveillance of senior U.S. government officials and, in turn, passed that information onto President Trump. ..."
"... The 9/11 myth is a multi-layered deception. Those within the kosher parameters of the 9/11 cult include the following: ..."
Jun 10, 2017 | www.unz.com

Mainstream commentators display amnesia when they describe former FBI Directors Robert Mueller and James Comey as stellar and credible law enforcement figures. Perhaps if they included J. Edgar Hoover, such fulsome praise could be put into proper perspective.

Although these Hoover successors, now occupying center stage in the investigation of President Trump, have been hailed for their impeccable character by much of Official Washington, the truth is, as top law enforcement officials of the George W. Bush Administration (Mueller as FBI Director and James Comey as Deputy Attorney General), both presided over post-9/11 cover-ups and secret abuses of the Constitution, enabled Bush-Cheney fabrications used to launch wrongful wars, and exhibited plain vanilla incompetence.

TIME Magazine would probably have not called my own disclosures a " bombshell memo " to the Joint Intelligence Committee Inquiry in May 2002 if it had not been for Mueller's having so misled everyone after 9/11. Although he bore no personal responsibility for intelligence failures before the attack, since he only became FBI Director a week before, Mueller denied or downplayed the significance of warnings that had poured in yet were all ignored or mishandled during the Spring and Summer of 2001.

Bush Administration officials had circled the wagons and refused to publicly own up to what the 9/11 Commission eventually concluded, "that the system had been blinking red ." Failures to read, share or act upon important intelligence, which a FBI agent witness termed " criminal negligence " in later trial testimony, were therefore not fixed in a timely manner. (Some failures were never fixed at all.)

Worse, Bush and Cheney used that post 9/11 period of obfuscation to "roll out" their misbegotten "war on terror," which only served to exponentially increase worldwide terrorism .

Unfulfilled Promise

I wanted to believe Director Mueller when he expressed some regret in our personal meeting the night before we both testified to the Senate Judiciary Committee. He told me he was seeking improvements and that I should not hesitate to contact him if I ever witnessed a similar situation to what was behind the FBI's pre 9/11 failures.

A few months later, when it appeared he was acceding to Bush-Cheney's ginning up intelligence to launch the unjustified, counterproductive and illegal war on Iraq, I took Mueller up on his offer, emailing him my concerns in late February 2003. Mueller knew, for instance, that Vice President Dick Cheney's claims connecting 9/11 to Iraq were bogus yet he remained quiet. He also never responded to my email.

Beyond ignoring politicized intelligence, Mueller bent to other political pressures. In the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, Mueller directed the " post 9/11 round-up " of about 1,000 immigrants who mostly happened to be in the wrong place (the New York City area) at the wrong time. FBI Headquarters encouraged more and more detentions for what seemed to be essentially P.R. purposes. Field offices were required to report daily the number of detentions in order to supply grist for FBI press releases about FBI "progress" in fighting terrorism. Consequently, some of the detainees were brutalized and jailed for up to a year despite the fact that none turned out to be terrorists .

A History of Failure

Long before he became FBI Director, serious questions existed about Mueller's role as Acting U.S. Attorney in Boston in effectively enabling decades of corruption and covering up of the FBI's illicit deals with mobster Whitey Bulger and other "top echelon" informants who committed numerous murders and crimes. When the truth was finally uncovered through intrepid investigative reporting and persistent, honest judges, U.S. taxpayers footed a $100 million court award to the four men framed for murders committed by (the FBI-operated) Bulger gang.

Current media applause omits the fact that former FBI Director Mueller was the top official in charge of the Anthrax terror fiasco investigation into those 2001 murders , which targeted an innocent man (Steven Hatfill) whose lawsuit eventually forced the FBI to pay $5 million in compensation. Mueller's FBI was also severely criticized by Department of Justice Inspector Generals finding the FBI overstepped the law improperly serving hundreds of thousands of "national security letters" to obtain private (and irrelevant) metadata on citizens, and for infiltrating nonviolent anti-war groups under the guise of investigating "terrorism."

For his part, Deputy Attorney General James Comey , too, went along with the abuses of Bush and Cheney after 9/11 and signed off on a number of highly illegal programs including warrantless surveillance of Americans and torture of captives . Comey also defended the Bush Administration's three-year-long detention of an American citizen without charges or right to counsel.

Up to the March 2004 night in Attorney General John Ashcroft's hospital room, both Comey and Mueller were complicit with implementing a form of martial law, perpetrated via secret Office of Legal Counsel memos mainly written by John Yoo and predicated upon Yoo's singular theories of absolute "imperial" or "war presidency" powers, and requiring Ashcroft every 90 days to renew certification of a "state of emergency."

The Comey/Mueller Myth

What's not well understood is that Comey's and Mueller's joint intervention to stop Bush's men from forcing the sick Attorney General to sign the certification that night was a short-lived moment. A few days later, they all simply went back to the drawing board to draft new legal loopholes to continue the same (unconstitutional) surveillance of Americans.

The mythology of this episode, repeated endlessly throughout the press, is that Comey and Mueller did something significant and lasting in that hospital room. They didn't. Only the legal rationale for their unconstitutional actions was tweaked.

Mueller was even okay with the CIA conducting torture programs after his own agents warned against participation. Agents were simply instructed not to document such torture, and any "war crimes files" were made to disappear. Not only did "collect it all" surveillance and torture programs continue, but Mueller's (and then Comey's) FBI later worked to prosecute NSA and CIA whistleblowers who revealed these illegalities.

ORDER IT NOW

Neither Comey nor Mueller - who are reported to be " joined at the hip " - deserve their current lionization among politicians and mainstream media. Instead of Jimmy Stewart-like "G-men" with reputations for principled integrity, the two close confidants and collaborators merely proved themselves, along with former CIA Director George "Slam Dunk" Tenet, reliably politicized sycophants, enmeshing themselves in a series of wrongful abuses of power along with official incompetence.

It seems clear that based on his history and close "partnership" with Comey, called "one of the closest working relationships the top ranks of the Justice Department have ever seen," Mueller was chosen as Special Counsel not because he has integrity but because he will do what the powerful want him to do.

Mueller didn't speak the truth about a war he knew to be unjustified. He didn't speak out against torture. He didn't speak out against unconstitutional surveillance. And he didn't tell the truth about 9/11. He is just "their man."

Coleen Rowley , a retired FBI special agent and division legal counsel whose May 2002 memo to then-FBI Director Robert Mueller exposed some of the FBI's pre-9/11 failures, was named one of TIME magazine's "Persons of the Year" in 2002. Her 2003 letter to Robert Mueller in opposition to launching the Iraq War is archived in full text on the NYT and her 2013 op-ed entitled " Questions for the FBI Nominee " was published on the day of James Comey's confirmation hearing. This piece will also be cross-posted on Rowley's Huffington Post page.

Dan Hayes June 9, 2017 at 3:46 am GMT

As Colleen Rowley has so thoroughly and unequivocally demonstrated here, both Comey and Mueller are living examples of the Peter Principle (that managers rise to the level of their incompetence).

exiled off mainstreet Show Comment Next New Comment June 9, 2017 at 4:24 am GMT

According to Jonathan Turley, one of the best and most respected legal experts, Comey may have violated the law using his professor friend to leak what he thought was an incriminating memorandum documenting Trump's "hope" that he would lay off Flynn because Flynn was a "good guy." Even torture advocate Dershowitz, who, for his obvious faults, is a talented lawyer, indicates that it is preposterous to call this "obstruction of justice" when Trump had the power to pardon anybody. Meanwhile, the fact that Comey didn't find it necessary to document his interrogation of the harpy on the "matter" of her email server reveals that he seemed totally willing for justice to be obstructed in a more obvious fashion if he was on board with those doing the obstructing. It also came out that some of his testimony today appears to contradict statements he made under oath to Senator Grassley in a hearing dated May 3.

Since Mueller was apparently appointed at least in part as a result of Comey's leak, and no evidence has been shown of the phony Russia charges despite months of possibly extra-legal digging, Mueller's appointment should be cancelled and his office liquidated if that can be done in some fashion. If not, may be he should show more integrity than has heretofore been the case and liquidate the office himself.

Bill Jones Show Comment Next New Comment June 9, 2017 at 5:18 am GMT

Excellent piece. Not a dam word I can find fault with.

Carlton Meyer Website Show Comment Next New Comment June 9, 2017 at 5:31 am GMT

My old San Fran days memory recalls that "liberal" Democrat Diane Feinstein nominated neo-nazi Republican Mueller to US Attorney for N. California. I recall some thought because her husband was under investigation for a corrupt arms deal. That's just my memory

There are now lots of current news stories of Feinstein and open coup plotter Schumer excited about Muller's appointment to convict Trump for something. This from her own website:

https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?id=FEA7C76A-E029-49AF-98F2-5446AABFAD22

May 17 2017

Washington-Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) today released the following statement on the appointment of former FBI Director Robert Mueller as special counsel: "The appointment of Bob Mueller as special counsel for the Russia investigation is a good first step to get to the bottom of the many questions we have about Russian interference in our election and possible ties to the president.

"Bob was a fine U.S. attorney, a great FBI director and there's no better person who could be asked to perform this function. He is respected, he is talented and he has the knowledge and ability to do the right thing."

I did find this from 1998:

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/U-S-Attorney-Yamaguchi-Announces-Resignation-3000301.php

"In announcing his resignation, Yamaguchi said Attorney General Janet Reno will appoint Robert Mueller, a former federal prosecutor in San Francisco, as interim U.S. attorney. He is currently chief of the homicide division at the U.S. attorney's office in Washington, D.C. Mueller has spent almost his entire career as a federal prosecutor, doing both civil and criminal work in the San Francisco district and then moving to the U.S. attorney's office in Boston. He eventually joined the Justice Department, where he was an assistant attorney general in charge of the criminal division."

So Clinton's odd lesbian Attorney General helped boost a Republican to greater powers.

Mueller went on to play key roles in the PanAm Lockerbie coverup and the 9-11 ruse, despite this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/692291/posts

"Mr. Mueller's credibility was harshly attacked in a letter made public last weekend in which a Minneapolis agent said the F.B.I. director was engaged in a public relations campaign "to protect the F.B.I. at all costs" after Sept. 11. But they said a review of his public remarks about the Sept. 11 investigation had raised uncomfortable questions about the F.B.I. director's credibility and about his ability to gather accurate information from his deputies."

In a news conference on Wednesday that amounted to a painful mea culpa for the bureau and for his performance in the nine months since he took over the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Mr. Mueller said, "I have made mistakes occasionally in my public comments based on information or a lack of information that I subsequently got."

He was referring specifically to a widely publicized Sept. 14 statement in which he offered assurances - later proved to be false - that the bureau had no warning that terrorists might be training in American flight schools. On Sept. 17, Mr. Mueller went further, saying he knew of "no warning signs" of any sort of attack.

Senator Charles E. Grassley, an Iowa Republican who is on the Judiciary Committee, said his staff investigators would explore the accusations made by the Minneapolis agent, Coleen Rowley, that Mr. Mueller and other senior F.B.I. officials had intentionally shaded the truth about the investigation last summer of Zacarias Moussaoui."

To summarize, we have a "Republican" from Northern California nominated by a "liberal" Democrat to become part of the Clinton "Justice" department who played a key role as FBI Director to cover 9-11. He now reappears from the grave with great praise from Democrats openly plotting to overthrow President Trump to investigate absurdly silly things like speaking to Russian diplomats. Let us recall Trump openly expressed doubts about the 9-11 twin towers ruse on 9-11!

Yes, all corruption in DC eventually becomes a 9-11 thread.

DanCT Show Comment Next New Comment June 9, 2017 at 12:13 pm GMT

The 911 cover up team is now about to take President Trump down over yet another false flag, and this team would include the leadership of both parties. How convenient that the Democrats are doing the dirty work so that Fox News and the rest can now engage in covering up the Republicans' behind-the-scenes role in all this.

Also, Colleen Rowley mentions that Meuller ignored his FBI agents' warnings about not going along with CIA torture overseas, yet there is reason to believe that FBI agents were in fact sent overseas to coordinate this activity with the CIA and Mossad.

Agent76 Show Comment Next New Comment June 9, 2017 at 12:51 pm GMT

March 07, 2017 CIA Leak: "Russian Election Hackers" May Work In Langley

Attribution of cyber-intrusions and attacks is nearly impossible. A well executed attack can not be traced back to its culprit. If there are some trails that seem attributable one should be very cautions following them. They are likely faked.

http://www.4thmedia.org/2017/03/cia-leak-russian-election-hackers-may-work-in-langley/

Agent76 Show Comment Next New Comment June 9, 2017 at 12:55 pm GMT

Aug 8, 2016 "I want to scare Assad" Mike Morell on Charlie Rose

Mike Morell, former deputy director of the CIA, discusses the need to put pressure on Syria and Russia. The full conversation airs on PBS on August 8th, 2016.

MarkinLA Show Comment Next New Comment June 9, 2017 at 2:02 pm GMT

I need to leak a memo (actually my own interpretation of what happened after the fact) to counter any possible lies Trump might say just in case Trump produces a tape of the meeting.

What is wrong with this sentence?

Che Guava Show Comment Next New Comment June 9, 2017 at 3:37 pm GMT

This was an interesting article.

Counterpunch does publish many interesting articles, once upon a time, I was to considering subscription to the print edition, but no credit card, and the 80 to 90% idiocy on the site, The article at the link below is not unrepresentative, though it is at the bottom end of the scale.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/06/09/lessons-from-portlands-clashes-with-fascists

Agent76 Show Comment Next New Comment June 9, 2017 at 5:54 pm GMT

March 31, 2017 The Surveillance State Behind Russia-Gate

Although many details are still hazy because of secrecy – and further befogged by politics – it appears House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes was informed last week about invasive electronic surveillance of senior U.S. government officials and, in turn, passed that information onto President Trump.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-surveillance-state-behind-russia-gate/5582211

Jan 2, 2017 CNN Caught Using Video Game Image In Fake Russian Hacking Story

It looks like CNN Has tried to pull the wool over our eyes once again. This time, they used a screenshot from the Fallout 4 Video game to paint the picture of Russian Hacking. To bad that's not what a real hacking screen looks like. And an image you will only find in the video game! Nice Try Clinton News Network!

Agent76 Show Comment Next New Comment June 9, 2017 at 6:10 pm GMT

@Che Guava This is another good read Che Guava. November 07, 2016 FBI Director James Comey: Hillary Should Not Face Criminal Charges

But Who Conducted the Investigation? FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe Whose Wife Received $467,500. FBI Director James Comey (image left) decided to issue a report two days before the November election confirming that there is no evidence of wrongdoing on the part of Hillary in relation to the recent release of 650,000 Emails on October 28th.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/fbi-director-james-comey-no-evidence-of-hillary-wrong-doing-but-who-conducted-the-investigation-fbi-deputy-director-andrew-mccabe-bribed-whose-wife-received-467000/5555398

Agent76 Show Comment Next New Comment June 9, 2017 at 6:13 pm GMT

@Carlton Meyer This a very good read on the 9/11 event. September 07, 2016 September 11, 2001: The 15th Anniversary of the Crime and Cover-up of the Century "What Really Happened"?

New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani to be trucked away and shipped to China – an order that constitutes disturbing a crime scene – which is a federal crime.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/september-11-2001-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-crime-and-cover-up-of-the-century/5544414

Julius Evola Show Comment Next New Comment June 9, 2017 at 6:14 pm GMT

Get a life!

Anonymous Show Comment Next New Comment June 9, 2017 at 11:15 pm GMT

@MarkinLA I need to leak a memo (actually my own interpretation of what happened after the fact) to counter any possible lies Trump might say just in case Trump produces a tape of the meeting.

What is wrong with this sentence? Actually what is right about your post ia that it draws attention to the likelihood that the President would have recordings of all such conversations (not ones when he says "come for a walk with me while I stretch my legs in the garden") and that, anyway, a canny fellow like Comey would assume so and, accordingly, make notes immediately afterwards to ensure that he was right on all the key points. Which all leads to the conclusion that recordings would bear out Comey.

Priss Factor Show Comment Next New Comment June 9, 2017 at 11:18 pm GMT

Deep State messes up and sheeple run wild.

Anonymous Show Comment Next New Comment June 9, 2017 at 11:34 pm GMT

@Agent76 As a big factor in Comey's thinking just before the election when new material possibly pertinent to Clinton's irregullarities came to FBI attention would have been his own self interest it seems reasonable to suppose that both his embarrassment of Clinton by his communication to Congress and his exoneration of her were part of a process which began with "how bad could it be for me if Clinton wins [as I sulppose she will] and something really bad turns up from the investigation of the emails?". Then, given it was true, the exonerating statement is a no brainer (he restores his position as well as he can with Clinton in case she wins and he inly diminishes his credit with Trump slightly if Trumo wins).

Mulegino1 Show Comment Next New Comment June 10, 2017 at 1:24 am GMT

The 9/11 myth is a multi-layered deception. Those within the kosher parameters of the 9/11 cult include the following:

Robert Muller's role has nothing to do with being an impartial prosecutor but about being a "fixer" in proper Washingtonian parlance. He was probably brought into the FBI to insure a foreordained "slam dunk" verdict that 19 Arab amateur pilots hijacked 4 airliners led by a deathly ill man living in a cave, performed miraculous feats of aviation which would have made Waldo Pepper envious and violated the laws of physics all in one day. Now he is serving another purpose for his string pullers in the deep state by torpedoing Trump.

As Conan-Doyle wrote, "Whenever you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

Office fires, nor jet fuel, nor building collapses or aircraft impacts will not cause hundreds of thousands of tons of structural steel and concrete to undergo molecular dissociation and turn into dust clouds. They generally do not cause the metal components of vehicles in the vicinity to be destroyed while their non-metallic components remain intact. Neither will conventional explosives or even nano-thermite. The destruction of WTC 1, WTC 2 and the core of WTC 6 was not caused by any of these things alone. WTC 7 may have been a case of conventional controlled demolition, but the idea that it experienced universal failure and collapsed into its footprint because of "raging fires" is too stupid for words.

It is O'Brien holding up the three fingers and torturing Winston into seeing two – except that a good part of our public accepts their masters' voice willingly and enthusiastically, even today in 2017.

geokat62 Show Comment Next New Comment June 10, 2017 at 2:20 am GMT

@Mulegino1

The 9/11 myth is a multi-layered deception. Those within the kosher parameters of the 9/11 cult include the following:

Not sure anyone would accuse Philip Giraldi (former counter-terrorism specialist and military intelligence officer of the CIA) of someone who is "within the kosher parameters of the 9/11 cult":

If there had been such a gathering, I would imagine that the Washington Post would have found out about it on the next day as intelligence officers are gregarious and like to talk. This has been my principal problem with the debate in some quarters about the 9/11 Commission. Their report did indeed miss many important angles in order to protect certain governmental interests, but if there had been a genuine conspiracy involving what must have been hundreds of people to demolish the Twin Towers with explosives, it surely would have leaked long ago .

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/do-high-level-leaks-suggest-a-conspiracy/

[Jun 08, 2017] Remembering the U.S.S. Liberty by Philip Giraldi

Notable quotes:
"... There has been a lot of media coverage mostly written by Israelis or American Jews regarding Israel's "victory" fifty years ago during the so-called Six Days War directed against its Arab neighbors but I have yet to see an account that mentions the fate of the U.S.S. Liberty . ..."
"... The Liberty survivors who will be present in Arlington on Thursday will be fewer than usual because the crew is having its own 50 th anniversary commemoration in Norfolk, Virginia, home of the U.S. Atlantic fleet. In truth the attack on the U.S.S. Liberty by Israeli warplanes and torpedo boats on June 8, 1967, has almost faded from memory, with a younger generation completely unaware that a United States naval vessel was once deliberately targeted and nearly sunk by America's "greatest friend and ally" Israel. The attack was followed by a cover-up that demonstrated clearly that at least one president of the United States even back nearly fifty years ago valued his relationship with the state of Israel above his loyalty to his own country. ..."
"... The entire 6-day war was a particularly brutal and unprovoked attack by Israel against Egypt and other Arab states. Just as the Israeli government lied about the attack on the Liberty, they lied about being attacked by Egypt. When are the US populatation going to say enough and force the US government to stop supporting this mendacious, duplicious and brutal apartheid artificial Zionist colony in the Middle East? Today, 6/5 the Senate passed a unanimous resolution to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem immediately. Trunp is still delaying. But for how long? ..."
"... A few years ago, the Israeli pilot who led the attack on the USS Liberty was interviewed by the Jerusalem post. He said the sailers were lucky he didn't have bombs on board, otherwise he would have sunk it. ..."
"... That always seemed an odd aspect of the story to me. If it were a deliberate attack, why leave survivors? Why not sink it? This wasn't the Yamamoto, for heaven's sake. It probably wouldn't have taken more than one direct it from a 2000 pound bomb to sink it. there is no shortage of hocus pocus amongst the great powers of the day.british officers sending Australian troops to there death at Gallipoli is another example ..."
"... It was a failed false flag; the purpose of which: to incriminate Egypt. The entire plot relied on the total destruction of the Liberty and it's crew: no ship, no crew, no evidence. (The failed false flag hypothesis at least makes some sense of Israeli motives. ..."
"... Which leads to the 2nd point ( harder to demonstrate ) that the highest level of the US Admin KNEW about this or "a" pending false flag attack by the Israelis. The speed - confidence - with which Macnamara calls off the jets, the well oiled cover up later, all, at least, suggest US foreknowledge. US complicity would also help explain why the Israelis weren't that worried about radio traffic ID'ing their fighters. ..."
"... The whole "false flag" thing should be obviously wrong to you all. There is no way Israel ever could have framed Egypt for an attack on a US ship because, like Israel, like every other country then and now, nobody has any incentive to deliberately attack a US ship. Moreover, by the time of the attack, Israel had already won the war, and the USA was already quietly supporting Israel. ..."
"... And as Dave Pinsen pointed out, if Israel had intended to sink the Liberty, it would have done so quite easily. ..."
"... The difference between Pres Eisenhower 1956 and LBJ 1967 is that Eisenhower was independent of Jewish power. LBJ was totally owned by Jews in both foreign policy and domestic policy( 1965 immigration act, 1968 affirmative action act, EEOC, funding all sorts of black militant war on poverty programs, on and on). ..."
"... War unleashed is rarely rational. The '67 War was an audacious gamble for nascent Israel. Raw memories of Ike's humbling restraint in Suez '56 may have been fresh. Why tolerate loose ends that risk defeat? Trust no one. Better to eliminate all unknowns, anything that imperils success. The universal war code: do all that's necessary to win. Eliminate all unknowns. The rest will sort itself out. And so they did (my uneducated guess). ..."
"... Why is there an urgent NEED for a "special prosecutor" to investigate the influence of a foreign power on our political system ,when it 's RUSSIA, ......but No NEED whatsoever , when its King BIBI and Israel? ..."
Jun 08, 2017 | www.unz.com
The 50 year cover-up of a mass murder of U.S. servicemen orchestrated by Israel and its friends Philip Giraldi June 6, 2017 1,600 Words 204 Comments Reply

There has been a lot of media coverage mostly written by Israelis or American Jews regarding Israel's "victory" fifty years ago during the so-called Six Days War directed against its Arab neighbors but I have yet to see an account that mentions the fate of the U.S.S. Liberty .

Nevertheless, the Liberty is not forgotten. This Thursday at noon at Arlington National Cemetery there will be a small gathering for the annual coming together with the survivors and friends of the most decorated ship in the history of the U.S. Navy, a victim of a particularly brutal and unprovoked attack by Israel that has been covered up for half a century by the powers that be in Washington. The moving service will include reminiscences by surviving crew members plus the ringing of a ship's bell for each one of the thirty-four American sailors, Marines and civilians that were killed in the deliberate Israeli air and sea onslaught that sought to sink the intelligence gathering ship and kill all its crew. Present will be a number of veterans like myself and other Americans who are committed to ensuring that the story of the Liberty will not die in hopes that someday the United States government will have the courage to acknowledge what actually happened on that fateful day.

The Liberty survivors who will be present in Arlington on Thursday will be fewer than usual because the crew is having its own 50 th anniversary commemoration in Norfolk, Virginia, home of the U.S. Atlantic fleet. In truth the attack on the U.S.S. Liberty by Israeli warplanes and torpedo boats on June 8, 1967, has almost faded from memory, with a younger generation completely unaware that a United States naval vessel was once deliberately targeted and nearly sunk by America's "greatest friend and ally" Israel. The attack was followed by a cover-up that demonstrated clearly that at least one president of the United States even back nearly fifty years ago valued his relationship with the state of Israel above his loyalty to his own country.

It was in truth the worst attack ever carried out on a U.S. Naval vessel in peace time. In addition to the death toll, 171 more of the crew were wounded in the two-hour assault, which was clearly intended to destroy the intelligence gathering vessel operating in international waters collecting information on the ongoing fighting between Israel and its Arab neighbors. The Israelis, whose planes had their Star of David markings covered up so Egypt could be blamed, attacked the ship repeatedly from the air and with gunboats from the sea. When one Israeli pilot hesitated, refusing to attack what was clearly an American ship, he was instructed to proceed anyway.

The most disgusting part of the tale relates to how U.S. warplanes sent to the Liberty 's aid from an aircraft carrier in the Mediterranean were called back by Defense Secretary Robert McNamara acting under orders from President Lyndon Baines Johnson, who declared that he would rather see the ship go to the bottom of the sea than embarrass his good friend Israel. Ironically, the first ship to reach the Liberty and offer assistance was from the Soviet Union, an offer that was declined.

Johnson reportedly feared Jewish influence over Congress and in the media, which might work together to block his "Great Society" legislative initiatives, not to mention his expected reelection bid in 1968. It was an early manifestation of the power of the Jewish lobby in American politics and foreign relations. One has to hope that both LBJ and McNamara are currently burning in hell.

The incredible courage and determination of the surviving crew was the only thing that kept the Liberty from sinking. The ship's commanding officer Captain William McGonagle was awarded a Congressional Medal of Honor for his heroic role in keeping the ship afloat, though President Lyndon Baines Johnson broke with tradition and refused to hold the medal ceremony in the White House, also declining to award it personally, delegating that task to the Secretary of the Navy in a closed to the public presentation made at the Washington Navy Yard. The additional medals given to other crew members in the aftermath of the attack made the U.S.S. Liberty the most decorated ship based on a single engagement with hostile forces in the history of the United States Navy.

The cover-up of the attack began immediately. The Liberty crew was sworn to secrecy over the incident, as were the Naval dockyard workers in Malta, and even the men of the U.S.S. Davis , which had assisted the badly damaged Liberty to port were ordered to be silent. A hastily convened and conducted court of inquiry headed by Admiral John McCain acted under orders from Washington to declare the attack a case of mistaken identity. The inquiry's senior legal counsel Captain Ward Boston, who subsequently declared the attack to be a "deliberate effort to sink an American ship and murder its entire crew," also described how "President Lyndon Johnson and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara ordered him to conclude that the attack was a case of 'mistaken identity' despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary." The court's findings were rewritten and sections relating to Israeli war crimes, to include the machine gunning of life rafts, were excised. Following in his father's footsteps, Senator John McCain of Arizona has used his position on the Senate Armed Services Committee to effectively block any reconvening of a board of inquiry to reexamine the evidence. Most of the documents relating to the Liberty incident have never been released to the public in spite of the 50 years that have passed since the attack took place.

ORDER IT NOW

The faux court of inquiry and the medals awarded in secret were only the first steps in the cover-up, which has persisted to this day, orchestrated by politicians and a media that seem to place Israel's interests ahead of those of the United States. Liberty survivors have been finding it difficult even to make their case in public. In April 2016 a billboard that read "Help the USS Liberty Survivors – Attacked by Israel" was taken down in New Bedford Massachusetts. The billboard had been placed by the Honor Liberty Vets Organization and, as is normal practice, was paid for through a contractual arrangement that would require the billboard company to post the image for a fixed length of time. It was one of a number of billboards placed in different states. Inevitably, Israel's well connected friends began to complain. One Jewish businessman threatened to take his business elsewhere, so the advertising company obligingly removed the billboard two weeks early.

After fifty years, the dwindling number of survivors of the Liberty are not looking for punishment or revenge. When asked, they will tell you that they only ask for accountability, that an impartial inquiry into the attack be convened and that the true story of what took place finally be revealed to the public.

That Congress is deaf to the pleas of the Liberty crew should surprise no one as the nation's legislative body has been for years, as Pat Buchanan once put it, "Israeli occupied territory." The Lobby's ability to force Congress and even the presidency to submit to its will has been spelled out in some detail by critics, first by Paul Findley in They Dare to Speak Out , later by John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt in The Israel Lobby , in Alison Weir's Against Our Better Judgment , and most recently in Kirk Beattie's excellent Congress and the Shaping of the Middle East .

Government willingness at all levels to protect Israel even when it is killing Americans is remarkable, but it is symptom of the deep corruption that has generated a tendency to go to bat for Israel reflexively, even when it is damaging to U.S. interests and to the rights that American citizens are supposed to enjoy. I note particularly legislation currently working its way through Congress and numerous statehouses make it illegal for any federal or state funding to go to any entity that supports the Boycott, Divest and Sanction movement, better known as BDS. BDS is a way to put pressure on the Israeli government over its human rights abuses that is both non-violent and potentially effective. Israel's supporters have labeled BDS as anti-Semitic and have had some success in making any criticism of Israel labeled a "hate crime."

So the treatment of the U.S.S. Liberty should surprise no one in a country whose governing class has been for decades doing the bidding of the powerful lobby of a tiny client state that has been nothing but trouble and expense for the United States of America. Will it ever end? As the Israel Lobby currently controls the relevant parts of the federal government and much of the media, change is not likely to happen overnight, but there are some positive signs. The BDS movement is growing in spite of the pressure it is experiencing and will not go away. And opinion polls suggest that the American people are finally waking up to realize that they are sick and tired of the entire farce playing out in the Middle East under Israeli direction. Israel, which aggressively spies on us, kills our citizens and takes billions of dollars of our tax money which could be better spent here, is no friend of the United States and never has been. Just ask anyone who served on the U.S.S. Liberty .

Joe Franklin June 6, 2017 at 5:46 am GMT

Here's the official USS Liberty survivors website, authored by the Navy servicemen that survived the Israeli attack:

http://www.gtr5.com/

On June 8, 1967, US Navy intelligence ship USS Liberty was suddenly and brutally attacked on the high seas in international waters by the air and naval forces of Israel. The Israeli forces attacked with full knowledge that this was an American ship and lied about it. Survivors have been forbidden for 40 years to tell their story under oath to the American public. The USS Liberty Memorial web site tells their story and is dedicated to the memory of the 34 brave men who died.

The Attack

After surveilling USS Liberty for more than nine hours with almost hourly aircraft overflights and radar tracking, the air and naval forces of Israel attacked our ship in international waters without warning. USS Liberty was identified as a US naval ship by Israeli reconnaissance aircraft nine hours before the attack and continuously tracked by Israeli radar and aircraft thereafter. Sailing in international waters at less than five knots, with no offensive armament, our ship was not a military threat to anyone.

The Israeli forces attacked without warning and without attempting to contact us. Thirty four Americans were killed in the attack and another 174 were wounded. The ship, a $40-million dollar state-of-the-art signals intelligence platform, was later declared unsalvageable and sold for scrap.

The Cover Up

Despite a near-universal consensus that the Israeli attack was made with full knowledge that USS Liberty was a US Navy ship, the Johnson administration began an immediate cover-up of this fact. Though administration officers continued individually to characterize the attack as deliberate, the Johnson administration never sought the prosecution of the guilty parties or otherwise attempted to seek justice for the victims. They concealed and altered evidence in their effort to downplay the attack. Though they never formally accepted the Israeli explanation that it was an accident, they never pressed for a full investigation either. They simply allowed those responsible literally to get away with murder.

In an ongoing effort to reveal the truth about the attack, the USS Liberty Veterans Association has filed with the Secretary of the Army in the manner prescribed by law a detailed, fully documented Report of War Crimes describing the circumstances of the attack on our ship and evidence that it was a crime under international law. In accordance with international law and treaties, the United States is obligated to investigate the allegations. So far, the United States has declined even to acknowledge that the report has been filed. The full text of the report can be found at http://www.gtr5.com/evidence/warcrimes.pdf

RobinG June 6, 2017 at 6:17 am GMT

Yes, the Israelis intentionally attacked the USS Liberty. Whose idea was it?

"That should tell you WE, the USA were expecting an attack and most likely Lyndon Johnson was in on the nefarious plot. So it looks like LBJ told the Israelis go ahead and sink the USS Liberty (miraculously it did not sink) and that will give us a pretext to enter the Six Day War on Israel's side, launch an invasion of Egypt and depose Nassar who the USA did not like and who was too cozy with the USSR. In other words, LBJ was cooking up a Gulf of Tonkin type incident to justify a criminal Middle East war, based on a US sponsored false flag attack."

https://www.amazon.com/Operation-Cyanide-Bombing-Liberty-Nearly/dp/1904132197

Operation Cyanide: How the Bombing of the USS Liberty Nearly Caused World War Three

animalogic June 6, 2017 at 6:22 am GMT

The further I learn about this grotesque, criminal incident the further I strongly suspect two things:
1. It was a failed false flag; the purpose of which: to incriminate Egypt. The entire plot relied on the total destruction of the Liberty and it's crew: no ship, no crew, no evidence. (The failed false flag hypothesis at least makes some sense of Israeli motives. Against this view: the Israelis failed, which may be interpreted as evidence that complete destruction was NOT the goal. Also, it might be thought how could the Israelis be SO stupid as to think, given the length of time from observation to concluded attack, that they could "get away with it"? But again, no ship, no crew, no evidence. The rest is denial and bullshit.)
2. Which leads to the 2nd point ( harder to demonstrate ) that the highest level of the US Admin KNEW about this or "a" pending false flag attack by the Israelis. The speed – confidence – with which Macnamara calls off the jets, the well oiled cover up later, all, at least, suggest US foreknowledge. US complicity would also help explain why the Israelis weren't that worried about radio traffic ID'ing their fighters.
On even the bare facts the Liberty incident represented that even 50 years ago, the US government was in (treasonous ) thrall to a foreign power.

JA139 June 6, 2017 at 6:27 am GMT

a victim of a particularly brutal and unprovoked attack by Israel that has been covered up for half a century by the powers that be in Washington.

The entire 6-day war was a particularly brutal and unprovoked attack by Israel against Egypt and other Arab states. Just as the Israeli government lied about the attack on the Liberty, they lied about being attacked by Egypt. When are the US populatation going to say enough and force the US government to stop supporting this mendacious, duplicious and brutal apartheid artificial Zionist colony in the Middle East?

chris June 6, 2017 at 7:41 am GMT

@mcohen phil .why waste your time.the USS liberty was intercepted by soviet forces spying on communications between Russia and Egypt.it was attacked by aircraft piloted by Russian pilots,
there is no way the USA would directly attack Russian forces in retaliation.it is all about proxy armies doing there bidding. What an ass.

If this is true, why did the Israelis belatedly pay some reparations to the crew? When McNamara ordered a stop to the rescue effort and said he didn't want to shame our ally, was he talking about the Soviet Union? Why, after the fall of the Soviet Union, were the US archives not unsealed in order to exonerate our greatest ally?

BTW, does anyone else on your ward believe your theory?

Ben_C June 6, 2017 at 10:12 am GMT

Phil,

You're missing the big picture here What about Israel's "remarkable restraint" we've been told so much about?

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/381726/tragedy-israel-rand-paul

Greg Bacon Website June 6, 2017 at 10:35 am GMT

After this savage and brutal attack by Israel against an American ship and nothing happened to Israel, they realized that they could now openly attack the USA, while having their MSM blame Muslims, so that Israel could bend and twist our foreign policy to do their bidding.

Which led straight to the 9/11 False Flag, masterminded by Israel, with help from traitors in the WH, the Pentagon, CIA, FBI and NSA. With generous help from the Lying MSM.

http://www.911history.de/aaannxyz_ch11_en.html

America isn't a free nation, we are living under the boot heel of Israeli tyranny.

Lot June 6, 2017 at 10:42 am GMT

Kind of obsessed, huh?

For more Unz.com coverage:

Anonymous June 6, 2017 at 10:46 am GMT

@JA139

a victim of a particularly brutal and unprovoked attack by Israel that has been covered up for half a century by the powers that be in Washington.
The entire 6-day war was a particularly brutal and unprovoked attack by Israel against Egypt and other Arab states. Just as the Israeli government lied about the attack on the Liberty, they lied about being attacked by Egypt. When are the US populatation going to say enough and force the US government to stop supporting this mendacious, duplicious and brutal apartheid artificial Zionist colony in the Middle East? Today, 6/5 the Senate passed a unanimous resolution to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem immediately. Trunp is still delaying. But for how long?
mcohen June 6, 2017 at 11:13 am GMT

@Dave Pinsen Now that's a new conspiracy theory.

A few years ago, the Israeli pilot who led the attack on the USS Liberty was interviewed by the Jerusalem post. He said the sailers were lucky he didn't have bombs on board, otherwise he would have sunk it.

That always seemed an odd aspect of the story to me. If it were a deliberate attack, why leave survivors? Why not sink it? This wasn't the Yamamoto, for heaven's sake. It probably wouldn't have taken more than one direct it from a 2000 pound bomb to sink it. there is no shortage of hocus pocus amongst the great powers of the day.british officers sending Australian troops to there death at Gallipoli is another example

snickity snick
daisy has a dick
standing on the corner
turning a trick

stand in line take your pick
pearls for swine
some are skinny some are thick
bought by the dime

what you see you never get
where fools tread
a slow horse dead bet
on a path easily misled

take out the trash
gather wood for fire
burn the lot to ash
no truth from a liar.

RealAmerican June 6, 2017 at 11:31 am GMT

Once again, Mr. Giraldi demonstrates his profound patriotism, and his stunning courage to speak the truth.

LondonBob June 6, 2017 at 11:52 am GMT

LBJ's links to Israel were very deep and begin much earlier. That connection also explains how he became President.

http://5tjt.com/our-first-jewish-president-lyndon-johnson-an-update/

Interestingly Devin Nunes is tied in with the USS Liberty.

In the award ceremony at the Visalia (California) office of Rep. Devin Nunes, the Republican congressman pinned the Silver Star next to the Purple Heart that Halbardier found in his home mailbox three years ago. Nunes said, "The government has kept this quiet I think for too long, and I felt as my constituent he [Halbardier] needed to get recognized for the services he made to his country."

https://consortiumnews.com/2014/08/17/a-uss-libertys-heros-passing/

n230099 June 6, 2017 at 12:15 pm GMT

Someone sure has a bug-up-their-butt about this. "War" is always a mess. Deal with it we used to throw VC out the huey doors till the last one gave up what we wanted to hear. Now we buy our shirts and shoes from there. The time spent re-living the "Liberty" is time you will "never get back".

Che Guava June 6, 2017 at 12:22 pm GMT

@Dave Pinsen The ship you are thinking of is the Yamato.

Yamamoto was the admiral who reluctantly but to the best of his ability led the attack on Pearl Harbour (very effective and brilliant, except for the mysteriously missing carriers) and various other actions until his later assassination by US presidential order.

A military genius, and he knew what the absence of carriers meant.

Using torpedo boats is equivalent to such a bomb as your pilot described, but the Liberty did not sink before the situation changed enough to make the Israelis back off.

Your pilot sounds like a very poisonous person.

Agent76 June 6, 2017 at 12:44 pm GMT

Jun 8, 2016 USS Liberty - the Real Story - as told by the survivors

Thirdeye June 6, 2017 at 3:12 pm GMT

@Che Guava The ship you are thinking of is the Yamato.

Yamamoto was the admiral who reluctantly but to the best of his ability led the attack on Pearl Harbour (very effective and brilliant, except for the mysteriously missing carriers) and various other actions until his later assassination by US presidential order.

A military genius, and he knew what the absence of carriers meant.

Using torpedo boats is equivalent to such a bomb as your pilot described, but the Liberty did not sink before the situation changed enough to make the Israelis back off.

Your pilot sounds like a very poisonous person. Not that effective or brilliant. The fixation on battleship row was sophomoric. According to Admiral Nimitz, taking out the shore support facilities would have had a much greater impact on the US ability to wage war in the Pacific, forcing the US fleet to base its operations out of San Diego. That would have made it virtually impossible to project US power into the western Pacific during the crucial time in which the battles of the Coral Sea, Midway, and Guadalcanal took place.
The Japanese also had an unrealized opportunity to seize Oahu because the land forces defending it were weak. As it was, most of the damaged ships were salvaged after sitting in the mud and they were facing obsolescence as first line assets with the battleship and carrier building program then underway.

Eagle Eye June 6, 2017 at 3:15 pm GMT

@Joe Franklin Here's the official USS Liberty survivors website, authored by the Navy servicemen that survived the Israeli attack:

http://www.gtr5.com/

On June 8, 1967, US Navy intelligence ship USS Liberty was suddenly and brutally attacked on the high seas in international waters by the air and naval forces of Israel. The Israeli forces attacked with full knowledge that this was an American ship and lied about it. Survivors have been forbidden for 40 years to tell their story under oath to the American public. The USS Liberty Memorial web site tells their story and is dedicated to the memory of the 34 brave men who died.

The Attack

After surveilling USS Liberty for more than nine hours with almost hourly aircraft overflights and radar tracking, the air and naval forces of Israel attacked our ship in international waters without warning. USS Liberty was identified as a US naval ship by Israeli reconnaissance aircraft nine hours before the attack and continuously tracked by Israeli radar and aircraft thereafter. Sailing in international waters at less than five knots, with no offensive armament, our ship was not a military threat to anyone.

The Israeli forces attacked without warning and without attempting to contact us. Thirty four Americans were killed in the attack and another 174 were wounded. The ship, a $40-million dollar state-of-the-art signals intelligence platform, was later declared unsalvageable and sold for scrap.

The Cover Up

Despite a near-universal consensus that the Israeli attack was made with full knowledge that USS Liberty was a US Navy ship, the Johnson administration began an immediate cover-up of this fact. Though administration officers continued individually to characterize the attack as deliberate, the Johnson administration never sought the prosecution of the guilty parties or otherwise attempted to seek justice for the victims. They concealed and altered evidence in their effort to downplay the attack. Though they never formally accepted the Israeli explanation that it was an accident, they never pressed for a full investigation either. They simply allowed those responsible literally to get away with murder.

In an ongoing effort to reveal the truth about the attack, the USS Liberty Veterans Association has filed with the Secretary of the Army in the manner prescribed by law a detailed, fully documented Report of War Crimes describing the circumstances of the attack on our ship and evidence that it was a crime under international law. In accordance with international law and treaties, the United States is obligated to investigate the allegations. So far, the United States has declined even to acknowledge that the report has been filed. The full text of the report can be found at http://www.gtr5.com/evidence/warcrimes.pdf

In an ongoing effort to reveal the truth about the attack, the USS Liberty Veterans Association has filed with the Secretary of the Army in the manner prescribed by law a detailed, fully documented Report of War Crimes describing the circumstances of the attack on our ship and evidence that it was a crime under international law.

With all due respect to the heroic sailors and civilian staff of the USS Liberty – they were sacrificed by the U.S. military to justify a war against Egypt. LBJ wanted war FOR HIS OWN PURPOSES, but apparently later pulled back. So much for the idea of LBJ being an Israeli puppet.

Let's look at a timeline:

October 1956 – March 1957 Great Britain, France and Israel join to retake control of the Suez Canal. Eisenhower administration takes vigorous steps to force all three to retreat from Egypt.

November 24, 1963 – Former (?) CIA agent Lee Harvey Oswald is murdered in LBJ's home state of Texas. Oswald had earlier served as radio operator keeping in touch with Gary Powers during Powers' overflights of the Soviet Union. Powers himself later confirmed this in a book. Powers later died when his helicopter crashed.

Two days earlier, JFK had also been murdered in Texas, clearing the way for LBJ to become president.

August 1964 – LBJ stages the "Gulf of Tonkin" incident to justify all-out U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War.

June 1967 – LBJ and McNamara are kept informed in real time as the U.S. intelligence vessel USS Liberty is attacked and sunk by a combined air/sea attack. U.S. aircraft are scrambled but are recalled on personal orders from McNamara, almost certainly at LBJ's instructions.

The U.S. military command was throughout following the USS Liberty incident in real time through radar, radio, visual surveillance and intelligence sources in Israel and Egypt.

January 1968 – Still not satisfied in his blood lust, LBJ stages yet another incident sacrificing a U.S. intelligence vessel, the USS Pueblo. This time, the aim is to provoke yet another confrontation with North Korea in the middle of the Vietnam war.

CONCLUSION: Johnson wanted war, the more the better. War presents great opportunities for profiteering, and just as importantly, allows an administration to push through policies that would never be tolerated in peacetime.

Fellow Democrats Woodrow Wilson (WW I), FDR (WW II) and Harry Truman (Korea) had shown how it's done.

Z-man

June 6, 2017 at 3:20 pm GMT @n230099

Someone sure has a bug-up-their-butt about this. "War" is always a mess. Deal with it...we used to throw VC out the huey doors till the last one gave up what we wanted to hear. Now we buy our shirts and shoes from there. The time spent re-living the "Liberty" is time you will "never get back". No, the Liberty affair is one of the few 'unadulterated' examples that clearly shows that the Zionists are not our friends! So it must be kept 'alive'!

Greg Maybury

June 6, 2017 at 3:22 pm GMT 200 Words Attention: All UNZ Readers and Commenters

SUBJECT: The Six-Day War and the attempted sinking of the USS Liberty by Israeli Defence Forces

"What did the President Know, and When Did he Know It?"

Feature Article: Of Treachery, Treason, Terror, Truth, and Liberty Forsaken (An American Tale) Part One (Part Two in 2 Days)

http://poxamerikana.com/2017/05/08/of-treachery-treason-terror-truth-and-liberty-forsaken-an-american-tale-part-1/

For those who've not seen my latest article above - the first instalment of a two parter, with the second part due June 8 - I trust you can all find time to read* and if you like what you read, then repost on your respective Facebook TLs, and otherwise circulate, republish, and/or Tweet as you see fit.

Taking my cue from Phil Nelson's new book, Remember the Liberty: Almost Sunk by Treason on the High Seas but incorporating numerous other sources, my comprehensive analysis and commentary on the Liberty tragedy and the Six-Day War in which it took place is I believe one of the most important topics I've attempted to cover. The real backstory behind both of these events is one that has rarely if ever been explored - much less exposed - in such depth. As a heads up, there is one especially shocking revelation (to be revealed in Part 2), that will test most folks ability to cope with cognitive dissonance. It changes the narrative completely.

SolontoCroesus June 6, 2017 at 3:22 pm GMT

@Quartermaster The Liberty incident was not covered up. It was investigated and the problem was that 6th Fleet HQ had informed the Israelis we did not have any ships in the region. Flying a false flag is not illegal under international law, as long as the ship is not engaged in hostilities.

Israel admitted their mistake and paid reparations. Giraldi is simply promulgating a conspiracy theory. yes yes indeed, it was all a tragic mistake.

we know this because once the mistake was recognized (and the Israeli pilots had changed out of their orgasm-soaked panties), Israel rushed to aid the survivors of the Liberty. Riiiight.

Among the dozen-and-a-half stupid and mendacious things Finkelstein says in the second part of the interview with the painfully p-a-t-i-e-n-t Aaron Mate (make that, Mat – ay, kinda like Benjamin Ni-tay / Netanyahu/Milikovsky) is that "Israel became an asset to USA." http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/remembering-the-u-s-s-liberty-2/#comment-1896678

He got it ass backward: LBJ was an asset of the Israelis

(see Jeff Gates's explication of how the "transgenerational criminal syndicate" aka zionists use assets https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlbN2GEYW9w&t=48s @5 min:
"An Asset is Someone who has been profiled in sufficient depth, that if you put them in a time, place and circumstance you know within an acceptable range of probabilities that they will perform consistent with their personality profile ."

What's 'er name Krim was in the White House to ensure that LBJ stayed on script; one imagines she had in her overnight bag photos of Jackie's bloody pink suit, in the event LBJ was tempted to stray.

Regarding Mat é combined with the gush- rush of three aging Jewish scribblers to "set the record straight" - I'm not buying. English Outsider, A commenter on Pat Lang's blog, analyzed a New York Times article that purported to "fairly" report on the situation in Aleppo. English Outsider, who appears to be a PR professional, argued that the NYTimes piece was a "narrative adjustment exercise" -

"That's a polite way of saying that the press start out by giving us one story but later, when it becomes apparent that the story they were selling is nonsense, they have to try to move to the new story without us noticing the change. . . . you don't have to be an expert to see that that NYT piece cited isn't honest journalism."

And you don't have to be an aromachologist to detect the bullshit in Finkelstein's tall tales in the second Maté interview.

As for Mat é, he deserves an Emmy for his semi-penitent demeanor in the Finkelstein interviews. He's had plenty of practice, having done reporting for Democracy Now and for The Intercept. MoonofAlabama posted this important take-down of the Intercept - Do Not Trust The Intercept or How To Burn A Source.

Nor is mcohen's claim that Finkelstein is Mossad (#32) persuasive: In Der Judenstaat, Theodor Herzl complained/warned:

"We continue to produce an abundance of mediocre intellects who find no outlet, and this endangers our social position as much as does our increasing wealth. Educated Jews without means are now rapidly becoming Socialists. Hence we are certain to suffer very severely in the struggle between classes, because we stand in the most exposed position in the camps of both Socialists and capitalists. "

This describes NF to a T, and also serves to explain the proliferation of think-tanks, set up to provide a paycheck for that legion of over-credentialed under-aware faux-intellects seeking relevance - and a pension.

Agent76 June 6, 2017 at 3:28 pm GMT

@jilles dykstra You must be a book reader and internet researcher. Good post Jilles Dykstra.

Sep 5, 2016 9/11 Suspects: Rudy Giuliani

Mayor Giuliani oversaw the illegal destruction of the 9/11 crime scene and is criminally liable for the deaths of hundreds of emergency workers for not passing on prior warnings about the collapses of the Twin Towers. It is no wonder, then, that the Fire Department of New York so passionately detest Giuliani for his actions in disgracing their fallen brothers and covering up the 9/11 crime.

https://youtu.be/Cl85JSvDmsA

September 07, 2016 September 11, 2001: The 15th Anniversary of the Crime and Cover-up of the Century "What Really Happened"?

The arrow points to a "squib" of exploding gas which is commonly seen with controlled demolitions. Some of the "splinters" seen (the only solid objects that did not pulverize into dust) are actually chunks of steel beams that were being exploded upward and laterally. The nicely-sectioned steel beams and girders were soon ordered by New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani to be trucked away and shipped to China – an order that constitutes disturbing a crime scene – which is a federal crime.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/september-11-2001-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-crime-and-cover-up-of-the-century/5544414

jilles dykstra June 6, 2017 at 3:33 pm GMT

@Quartermaster As if conspiracies do not exist --
Few of them are well documented, but the 1956 GB, France Israel one against Egypt was.
Ben Gurion wanted the conspiracy in writing, the French document was never destroyed.
Helms, former CIA director, in a documentary on the Liberty, BBCW, confirmed the McNamara Israel conspiracy.

Rurik June 6, 2017 at 3:48 pm GMT

@Jake

The WASP Elites will always, ALWAYS, sacrifice the majority of white Christians they rule in order to help Jews.

IDK Jake

it seems to me that the founders of this nation were wholly WASPs, yet had little to do with Jews per se. Benjamin Franklin, a WASP's WASP, purportedly had this to say:

"There is a great danger for the United State of America. This great danger is the Jew. Gentlemen, in every land the Jews have settled, they have depressed the moral level and lowered the degree of commercial honesty. They have remained apart and unassimilated; oppressed, they attempt to strangle the nation financially, as in the case of Portugal and Spain.

For more than seventeen hundred years they have lamented their sorrowful fate - namely, that they have been driven out of their mother land; but, gentlemen, if the civilized world today should give them back Palestine and their property, they would immediately find pressing reason for not returning there. Why? Because they are vampires and vampires cannot live on other vampires –they cannot live among themselves. They must live among Christians and others who do not belong to their race.

If they are not expelled from the United States by the Constitution within less than one hundred years, they will stream into this country in such numbers that they will rule and destroy us and change our form of Government for which we Americans shed our blood and sacrificed our life, property and personal freedom. If the Jews are not excluded within two hundred years, our children will be working in the field to feed Jews while they remain in the counting houses, gleefully rubbing their hands.

I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude the Jews forever, your children and your children's children will curse you in their graves. Their ideas are not those of Americans, even when they lived among us for ten generations. The leopard cannot change his spots. The Jews are a danger to this land, and if they are allowed to enter, they will imperil our institutions. They should be excluded by the Constitution."

if you 'Bing' "benjamin franklin on Jews"

every single page will start with the same Wiki page 'debunking' the speech

every single page

what other issue does Bing consider so important that they will start every page with the same article?

anyways, it seems to me that the early days of this republic had little to do with Jews, other than as slave ship owners and money lenders. I remember how well the local WASPs treated Leo Frank, and it wasn't with kid gloves.

I suspect that the fealty to all things Jewish began with the charter of the Federal Reserve Bank, fully owed by international Jewish bankster$, and that was when all nations either bowed to all things Jewish, or were eventually forced to by relentless wars until they did. Germany being a prime example.

I grew up in a WASP household of sorts, and there was no anti-Semitism for sure, but then there wasn't any Judeophilia either. (no rapture bunnies in my WASPy childhood home, just Easter bunnies ; )

[curious, I 'Binged' the 'protocols of zion'. The first page starts with a Wiki page 'debunking' the Protocols- as you'd expect. But by the second page it's gone. Not so the Franklin speech. Every Bing page on the Franklin speech starts with the Wiki page 'debunking' it]

Eagle Eye June 6, 2017 at 4:25 pm GMT

@Rurik

The WASP Elites will always, ALWAYS, sacrifice the majority of white Christians they rule in order to help Jews.
IDK Jake

it seems to me that the founders of this nation were wholly WASPs, yet had little to do with Jews per se. Benjamin Franklin, a WASP's WASP, purportedly had this to say:

"There is a great danger for the United State of America. This great danger is the Jew. Gentlemen, in every land the Jews have settled, they have depressed the moral level and lowered the degree of commercial honesty. They have remained apart and unassimilated; oppressed, they attempt to strangle the nation financially, as in the case of Portugal and Spain.

For more than seventeen hundred years they have lamented their sorrowful fate - namely, that they have been driven out of their mother land; but, gentlemen, if the civilized world today should give them back Palestine and their property, they would immediately find pressing reason for not returning there. Why? Because they are vampires and vampires cannot live on other vampires --they cannot live among themselves. They must live among Christians and others who do not belong to their race.

If they are not expelled from the United States by the Constitution within less than one hundred years, they will stream into this country in such numbers that they will rule and destroy us and change our form of Government for which we Americans shed our blood and sacrificed our life, property and personal freedom. If the Jews are not excluded within two hundred years, our children will be working in the field to feed Jews while they remain in the counting houses, gleefully rubbing their hands.

I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude the Jews forever, your children and your children's children will curse you in their graves. Their ideas are not those of Americans, even when they lived among us for ten generations. The leopard cannot change his spots. The Jews are a danger to this land, and if they are allowed to enter, they will imperil our institutions. They should be excluded by the Constitution."

if you 'Bing' "benjamin franklin on Jews" every single page will start with the same Wiki page 'debunking' the speech every single page

what other issue does Bing consider so important that they will start every page with the same article? anyways, it seems to me that the early days of this republic had little to do with Jews, other than as slave ship owners and money lenders. I remember how well the local WASPs treated Leo Frank, and it wasn't with kid gloves.

I suspect that the fealty to all things Jewish began with the charter of the Federal Reserve Bank, fully owed by international Jewish bankster$, and that was when all nations either bowed to all things Jewish, or were eventually forced to by relentless wars until they did. Germany being a prime example.

I grew up in a WASP household of sorts, and there was no anti-Semitism for sure, but then there wasn't any Judeophilia either. (no rapture bunnies in my WASPy childhood home, just Easter bunnies ; )

[curious, I 'Binged' the 'protocols of zion'. The first page starts with a Wiki page 'debunking' the Protocols- as you'd expect. But by the second page it's gone. Not so the Franklin speech. Every Bing page on the Franklin speech starts with the Wiki page 'debunking' it]

Benjamin Franklin, a WASP's WASP, purportedly had this to say:

The entire quoted passage is bunk as will be obvious to anyone who has ACTUALLY read political documents from the 18th and 19th century. Real Americans are familiar, for instance, with the Federalist Letters, and with some private correspondence both during the 18th century Revolutionary War and the 19th century Civil War.

In the quoted passage, the reference to "Palestine" is anachronistic – the area was a non-descript Ottoman territory during Franklin's life, part of the Beirut Villayet.

Equally, the word "vampire" is a blatant anachronism. The whole vampire craze only started in the 19th century.

The whole focus on Jews is also bizarre – there were very few Jews in the American colonies during Franklin's lifetime.

Lastly, the diction of the quoted passage is fake 19th century written in the 20th century . Ben Franklin died in 1790.

Styles change. Nobody would mistake a Hank Williams song for a 1980s hit. The quoted passage sounds completely "off" in the same way, only more so.

JoaoAlfaiate June 6, 2017 at 5:54 pm GMT

How did the Zionist enterprise get away with the USS Liberty attack? How did they get away with the burning of the USIS library in Alexandria? And how did their supporters in the media (Ex. Judith Miller, Michael Gordon, etc.) and gov't (Perle, Wolfowitz, Feith, etc.) escape entirely free of blame for ginning up a bunch of bogus info on Saddam's WMD? And now these folks are doing their best to get Uncle Sam to destroy the Assad gov't and take on the Iranians while risking war with Russia.

If you have enough money (Edelson, Saban) to buy Congress and enough control of the MSM, it doesn't matter whether you tell the truth or not. The Israelis could bomb Ceder Rapids, Iowa and half of Congress and most of the MSM would find reasons to justify the attack.

The pen maybe mightier than the sword but the dollar is stronger than both.

truthtellerAryan June 6, 2017 at 8:01 pm GMT

Hi PG, we're "crying crocodile tears", that's what the hasbara claim and are assured by our low lives cuck politicians, even prostitutes sometimes wake up to the pimp's abuse and will do something. We have a museum and a memorial built in our soil to commemorate the hollowfuax that never happened here or doubtfully there. There are hundreds of channels on the idiot box these days, full of all garbage you can think of. On a daily basis there is at least ten shows on different channel that will have something about this hollow-fiction..
Few years ago I read a book by Richard Burton, written in the 19th century. Part of the book talked about Jews in Europe, mainly eastern. He actually warned of "their practices towards the Magyar and Slavs concerning money lending (usury)" that dispossessed a lot of poor farmers of their property and everything that had been accumulated over generations. He went on to say , if these people can find any excuse or support from authority, they will not hesitate to finish off these "jews". His prediction came very close at the beginning of last century.
When USS Liberty was bombed, there was all kinds of excuses (same as the ones we hear to this day, concerning any crime committed by the tribe), but the whore(s) can never go against her pimp master. Have you ever seen any resolution at the United Colonial Nations being voted by U.S. of Israel that condemned actual and real crimes by that " shitty " country?
If we are not gonna get justice committed against us (9/11 included), you think our slave cuckticians will care what happens to others?
We are now fully trained (like robots) to serve the master pimp .. The pimp says attack that country, we do it, kill one of fellow prostitute, we do it. Forced slaves never obeyed like this. Quite phenomenal

Eagle Eye June 6, 2017 at 10:45 pm GMT

@American Shniper Can you imagine the atrocities Israel had our service men and women committing against black and brown people let alone our white brothers and sisters if they can force our government to turn it's back on WHITE service MEN, not white women, WHITE service men?

The men who made this country what it is was murdered by Israeli's with no consequences nor acknowledgement for over 50 years....WOW! And you want to make blacks your enemy? You really don't get it, do you?

Let me spell it out to you: Lyndon B. Johnson wanted a war – any war – for fun and profit.

It is absurd to imagine that the president of the most powerful nation on earth in 1967 would take orders from a barely half-developed country in the Eastern Mediterranean.

Most likely, LBJ expressly ordered Israel to attack the USS Liberty to give himself an excuse to bomb Cairo. Quite possibly, his orders to bomb Cairo were defied by senior military or civilian leaders afraid of provoking WW III, thus necessitating an impromptu cover-up.

Put yourself in the shoes of the Israeli leadership in 1967 – why would they risk massively antagonizing the U.S. in the middle of a risky war? The only reasonable explanations are:

(1) Israel had been ordered by LBJ to sink the USS Liberty (see above). This kind of order would have to have come from LBJ personally, not McNamara, for the Israelis to take on the risk. (Remember the U.S. betrayal of irregular forces at the Bay of Pigs was a recent memory.)

(2) The USS Liberty itself was a major problem for Israel, e.g. because it was passing key intelligence to Egypt and the Arabs.

Given the extensive hush-up operations in the U.S. after the fact, (1) seems much more likely. This would also explain why senior U.S. brass went into overdrive concocting bizarre but coordinated stories to deflect attention from their own shameful involvement in the murder of Americans.

Eagle Eye June 6, 2017 at 10:56 pm GMT

@animalogic The further I learn about this grotesque, criminal incident the further I strongly suspect two things:

1. It was a failed false flag; the purpose of which: to incriminate Egypt. The entire plot relied on the total destruction of the Liberty and it's crew: no ship, no crew, no evidence. (The failed false flag hypothesis at least makes some sense of Israeli motives. Against this view: the Israelis failed, which may be interpreted as evidence that complete destruction was NOT the goal. Also, it might be thought how could the Israelis be SO stupid as to think, given the length of time from observation to concluded attack, that they could "get away with it"? But again, no ship, no crew, no evidence. The rest is denial and bullshit.)

2. Which leads to the 2nd point ( harder to demonstrate ) that the highest level of the US Admin KNEW about this or "a" pending false flag attack by the Israelis. The speed - confidence - with which Macnamara calls off the jets, the well oiled cover up later, all, at least, suggest US foreknowledge. US complicity would also help explain why the Israelis weren't that worried about radio traffic ID'ing their fighters.

On even the bare facts the Liberty incident represented that even 50 years ago, the US government was in (treasonous ) thrall to a foreign power.

On even the bare facts the Liberty incident represented that even 50 years ago, the US government was in (treasonous ) thrall to a foreign power.

With respect, this does not follow at all. The entire world (U.S., UK, France, Israel) treated the Suez Canal as a key geostrategic area. In the 1956/1957 Suez Canal Crisis, the U.S. intervened forcefully against the UK/French/Israeli alliance which had no option but to back down in the face of U.S. opposition.

The U.S. was and is pursuing its own aims. That these aims are often contrary to the interests of 95% of the U.S. population does not change the fact that the power elite are vigorously furthering their own interests.

"Cultural Marxists" love to say that "oppressed" groups have no "agency," i.e. shit just happens to them, they are tossed helplessly in a roiling sea of events.

Is it really a reasonable explanation of observed facts to assume that everything the U.S. does is dictated by a few people in a small, far-away country?

Anonymous June 7, 2017 at 12:44 am GMT

You're right about the wrong use of the word Palestine. In the 18th century Christians called it the Holy Land. Turk pirates and slave traders still roamed the Atlantic and the Mediterranean at the time so the Christian pilgrimages were few and far between till 1830s when France conquered Algeria. The Holy Land was pretty much ignored in Franklins time.

This is just another example of Rurik's "research " by Wikepedia instead of the nearest university library. Even middle school children are told to not rely on wikepedia

Anonymous June 7, 2017 at 3:13 am GMT

@Eagle Eye

On even the bare facts the Liberty incident represented that even 50 years ago, the US government was in (treasonous ) thrall to a foreign power.
With respect, this does not follow at all. The entire world (U.S., UK, France, Israel) treated the Suez Canal as a key geostrategic area. In the 1956/1957 Suez Canal Crisis, the U.S. intervened forcefully against the UK/French/Israeli alliance which had no option but to back down in the face of U.S. opposition.

The U.S. was and is pursuing its own aims. That these aims are often contrary to the interests of 95% of the U.S. population does not change the fact that the power elite are vigorously furthering their own interests.

"Cultural Marxists" love to say that "oppressed" groups have no "agency," i.e. shit just happens to them, they are tossed helplessly in a roiling sea of events.

Is it really a reasonable explanation of observed facts to assume that everything the U.S. does is dictated by a few people in a small, far-away country? The difference between Pres Eisenhower 1956 and LBJ 1967 is that Eisenhower was independent of Jewish power. LBJ was totally owned by Jews in both foreign policy and domestic policy( 1965 immigration act, 1968 affirmative action act, EEOC, funding all sorts of black militant war on poverty programs, on and on).

I don't believe in any of the who killed JFK conspiracy theories, but in terms of who benefits, LBJs anti White domestic policies fulfilled the dreams of every NAACP Jew since 1910.

L.K June 7, 2017 at 4:40 am GMT

@anon

Syria has killed more people in the past 3 years than Israel has in the past 100 years. In fact in October of 1982 alone , Syria killed more people than Israel has in the past 100 years. Talk about a license to kill ........ No, zionist shill, what is taking place in Syria is also a war for Israel;
Zionist agents have been planning this proxy war, going back at least to 2006, according to Assange.

ZUSA and its coalition of rogue states have been fighting a proxy war against Syria through the use of Salafist-Wahhabi extremists from all over the world, posing as Syrian "rebels".

Veteran CIA Ray McGovern, during a cross talk interview on Syria, at 1:14; The Elephant in the room re the reason for ZUSA's regime change policies toward Syria: Israel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd5fuAUM2BM

Former US marine Ken O'Keefe on RT about al-ciada und isis in Syria, etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-sOnmsWivs

Lot June 7, 2017 at 6:04 am GMT

@Anon

The whole "false flag" thing should be obviously wrong to you all. There is no way Israel ever could have framed Egypt for an attack on a US ship because, like Israel, like every other country then and now, nobody has any incentive to deliberately attack a US ship. Moreover, by the time of the attack, Israel had already won the war, and the USA was already quietly supporting Israel.

And as Dave Pinsen pointed out, if Israel had intended to sink the Liberty, it would have done so quite easily.

LondonBob June 7, 2017 at 9:32 am GMT

@Anonymous

The difference between Pres Eisenhower 1956 and LBJ 1967 is that Eisenhower was independent of Jewish power. LBJ was totally owned by Jews in both foreign policy and domestic policy( 1965 immigration act, 1968 affirmative action act, EEOC, funding all sorts of black militant war on poverty programs, on and on).

I don't believe in any of the who killed JFK conspiracy theories, but in terms of who benefits, LBJs anti White domestic policies fulfilled the dreams of every NAACP Jew since 1910. I think LBJ was more than owned given his ancestry and his very early support and actions going back to Leo Frank and going into the 30s with his support for Jewish immigration. According to historian James M. Smallwood, Congressman Johnson used legal and sometimes illegal methods to smuggle 'hundreds of Jews into Texas, using Galveston as the entry port. Enough money could buy false passports and fake visas in Cuba, Mexico and other Latin American countries . . . Johnson smuggled boatloads and planeloads of Jews into Texas. He hid them in the Texas National Youth Administration . . . Johnson saved at least four or five hundred Jews, possibly more.'

During World War II Johnson attended a small Austin gathering to sell $65,000 in war bonds. According to Gomolak, Johnson and a Jewish friend called Novy then raised a very 'substantial sum for arms for Jewish underground fighters in Palestine.' One source cited by the historian reports that 'Novy and Johnson had been secretly shipping heavy crates labeled 'Texas Grapefruit' – but containing arms – to Jewish underground 'freedom fighters' in Palestine.'

For a description of LBJ's backing for Israel, see Neff's, 'LBJ Was First to Align US with Israel's Policies', in the Washington Report on Middle East, Nov-Dec 1996 p. 96. His affinity for Israel is movingly described by the Senior Editor of the Jewish Press in his article 'LBJ and Israel', 7 Sept 2002.

LBJ's early backing for Israel can be found in the Senate Records, 1957-58, the Eisenhower Library and LBJ's own Presidential Library. After the 1956 Suez debacle, Israel clung on to Gaza and Aquaba, despite demands from both the US and UN to quit. By the spring of 1957, UN Secretary General Dag Hammarskjöld was actively promoting UN sanctions against Israel as an aggressor nation and in defiance of UN Resolutions.

The Israeli plan was scuppered in the US mainly by Senate Leader LBJ, who urged the State Dept. not to support sanctions 'against a small country like Israel' and rallied support in the Senate to block any legislation. (See New York Times of 20 February 1957 and, perhaps significantly, Louis Bloomfield's monograph, 'Egypt, Israel and the Gulf of Aquaba'.)

Like JFK, his predecessor President Eisenhower was no advocate of 'Israel, Right or Wrong'. LBJ and Eisenhower locked horns over Israel when Ike became heavily involved with the crisis over Israeli attempts to annex a Palestinian area around Banat Ya'qub in 1953 in order to divert water from the River Jordan. America stepped in to broker a deal. When the UN observers realised that the Israelis were ignoring their part of the agreement, Ike moved swiftly to revoke tax-deductible status of Jewish-Americans to Zionist organisations in order to force Israel to honour its obligations.

Despite enormous pressure from US Jewish lobby groups, LBJ himself and claims that his policies were 'anti-Semitic', Eisenhower stood firm. When the Israeli government realised that their money supply really was going to dry up, they backed down and Ike restored aid. Full accounts are in the LBJ Library Archive and – from a more objective viewpoint – in the 'jfk montreal' site.

Just one month after succeeding Kennedy, LBJ attended the December 1963 dedication of the Agudas Achim Synagogue in Austin. Novy opened the ceremony by saying Johnson, 'We can't thank him enough for all those Jews he got out of Germany during the days of Hitler.'

NoseytheDuke June 7, 2017 at 9:50 am GMT

@Eagle Eye You really don't get it, do you?

Let me spell it out to you: Lyndon B. Johnson wanted a war - any war - for fun and profit.

It is absurd to imagine that the president of the most powerful nation on earth in 1967 would take orders from a barely half-developed country in the Eastern Mediterranean.

Most likely, LBJ expressly ordered Israel to attack the USS Liberty to give himself an excuse to bomb Cairo. Quite possibly, his orders to bomb Cairo were defied by senior military or civilian leaders afraid of provoking WW III, thus necessitating an impromptu cover-up.

Put yourself in the shoes of the Israeli leadership in 1967 - why would they risk massively antagonizing the U.S. in the middle of a risky war? The only reasonable explanations are:

(1) Israel had been ordered by LBJ to sink the USS Liberty (see above). This kind of order would have to have come from LBJ personally, not McNamara, for the Israelis to take on the risk. (Remember the U.S. betrayal of irregular forces at the Bay of Pigs was a recent memory.)

(2) The USS Liberty itself was a major problem for Israel, e.g. because it was passing key intelligence to Egypt and the Arabs.

Given the extensive hush-up operations in the U.S. after the fact, (1) seems much more likely. This would also explain why senior U.S. brass went into overdrive concocting bizarre but coordinated stories to deflect attention from their own shameful involvement in the murder of Americans. It is absurd to imagine that the president of the most powerful nation on earth in 1967 would take orders from a barely half-developed country in the Eastern Mediterranean.

"Were going to be screening the Zapruder film for you after tonight dinner again Mr President".

anonHUN June 7, 2017 at 11:02 am GMT

@Bragadocious I looked at the casualty list and found a Toth and a Mendle, both of which can be Jewish names....or not. I wonder how the Jews on board felt about this attack. Given the actions of LBJ, it seems the Jew card has definite credit limits -- when you're going against the "Jewish State." Toth is a very common Hungarian surname, it actually means "Slovak". Of course can be a jewish person, but not a typical jewish surname.

Miro23 June 7, 2017 at 10:19 pm GMT

For 2 hours on June 8th 1967 the USA was at war with Israel and the USA won!!

With great skill and courage the crew of the USS Liberty kept their ship afloat and managed to send out a distress signal while under intense attack by Jewish jets and torpedo boats aiming to sink them without a trace.

The Israelis were finally obliged to pull back, and traitor* Johnson had to recall his "retaliation" attack on Egypt and also ensure that the USS Liberty story fast disappeared from circulation, the same as the surviving sailors.

To draw some parallels:

In London on the 5th of November 1605 conspirator Guy Fawkes was arrested guarding explosives placed under the House of Lords with which he and his fellow plotters planned to assassinate King James I.

In thanksgiving for the arrest, Londoners lit bonfires around the city, and the following January just before the plotter's execution , the 5th of November was made a public holiday and came to be known as "Guy Fawkes Night" ("Bonfire Night"), the point being that more than 400 years later the day is still celebrated (barbeques, drinks, bonfires and fireworks) and everyone learns again of the treason of Guy Fawkes.

So, kudos to Americans who light bonfires on "Lyndon Baines Johnson Night" (8th June) to remember his treason and commemorate the heroism of the USS Liberty crew.

* Traitor: Whether Johnson was blackmailed through Israeli knowledge of his part in the Kennedy assassination (Nelson 2011) or because he was their co-conspirator (Collins-Piper 1995) is irrelevant. The fact is that he knew of Operation Cyanide and the coming attack on the ship and collaborated.

RobinG June 7, 2017 at 10:34 pm GMT

@anon

The killings in Syria are being carried out by the minority alawite dictatorship (alawites are 10% of the Syrian poplulation) that siezed power in a coup and has never relinquished it. In one month in 1982 the Syrians killed more people than Israel has in the past 100 years. The killing done by Syria in the past 3 years is 20 X what Israel has done in 100 years. Israel is 100% more responsible than Alawites for casualties in Syria. The shrill and desperate hasbara lies from Tel Aviv's troll army are getting more ugly and more absurd while Israel becomes weaker and more reviled.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/who-is-destroying-syria/
Who Is Destroying Syria?
The Arab Gulf States, Israel, and Turkey all prefer anarchy to Assad
.
By Philip Giraldi • May 3, 2017

Rurik June 7, 2017 at 10:36 pm GMT

@Lot So Israel, able to defeat multiple Arab armies and airforces in a matter of days, was only able to kill about 1/5 of the people on an unarmed ship?

This degree of paranoid retardation is kind of fascinating.

So Israel, able to defeat multiple Arab armies and airforces in a matter of days, was only able to kill about 1/5 of the people on an unarmed ship?

the only way Israel could ever survive even one day is with American weapons and expertise, and of course their well documented treachery.

they are notorious cowards and inept soldiers. Why else would they do all they could to get others to do their fighting for them?

why else would Ariel Sharon use Lebanese Phalange militias to slaughter the women and children of Sabra and Shatila? There was the possibility that one of the women or children might have picked up a sharp object or table leg and throttled one of the little Zio-boyz with it. Better to hide from a distance and get others to fight for you, huh?

Hell, even the Israeli government was so appalled at Sharon's brazen cowardice that they charged him with a war crime for that little incident.

Just look at how a few ragtag Hezbollah troops can defeat the entire IDF with a fraction of the weaponry and nearly infinite toys the IDF has courtesy the ZUSA tax payer, but it's all for nothing when the weapons are in the hands of cowards and incompetents.

look at em all huddled down on their bellies with a sniper rifle to shoot children from the roof top

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De8g_LAHh_0

and then if that isn't stomach turning enough, the brave IDF soldier even congratulates his colleague for shooting a child! Wow, what gallantry! What valor!

I'm surprised the IDF got as far as they did with the USS Liberty, since it did have a machine gun on deck and a few of the officers had side arms. And who know if they were able to call for help. In fact, as I understand it, the reason the IDF called off the attack is because they heard that jets were scrambled to assist the Liberty, and they wanted no part of a fair fight. So sure, they tried to sink her with all hands, but endemic cowardice and notorious incompetence saved the day.

Eagle Eye

June 7, 2017 at 11:27 pm GMT 400 Words @Incitatus Anon,

Not necessarily sane or analytical, but here goes:

"...I am not...convinced that it [attack on the Liberty] was an Israeli...decision at the highest level..."

"None of the motives suggested are so compelling...to be accepted..."

Agreed. Conspiracies seem far fetched. Nuking Cairo? False flags? Israeli soldiers sworn to secrecy? LBJ or Macnamara planning involvement? Utter nonsense (my opinion).

That said, this isn't my first USS Liberty rodeo: http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/aipac-is-back-in-town/#new_comments
post #225, #250, #268, #292, #316 (31 Mar - 4 Apr 2017)

As stated there, 'Attack on the Liberty' and James Bamford's 'The Cover-Up' (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/aug/08/israel) differ significantly from the official US and Israeli accounts. Some of Bamford's points:

IDF motive: To attack and sink an Egyptian destroyer steaming at 30 knots after it shelled El Arish.
Bamford: Liberty was easily distinguished from a warship, lacked heavy guns and sprouted spy antenna masts. It was clearly marked (Latin markings, ensigns - sailors hoisted a second large ensign during the attack). It was steaming at 5 knots (top speed well below 30 knots). IDF surveilled Liberty regularly for over six hours prior to the attack, at one point with friendly acknowledgment. Crewman Larry Weaver: "I was actually able to wave to the co-pilot. He waved back and actually smiled at me - I could see him that well. There's no question about it. They had seen the ship's markings and the American flag."

IDF explanation: mistaken identity.
Bamford: IDF prolonged close surveillance (including friendly acknowledgment), followed by communication jamming, cannon fire, machine guns, rockets, napalm, 1000-lb bombs, torpedoes, and strafing life rafts. An attack thus varied and sustained seems unlikely mistaken or authored by mistaken judgment on behalf of the Israeli commanders on site (let alone further up the chain).

Was Israel truly regretful? Let Bamford tell it:

"In the days following the attack, the Israeli government gave the US government a classified report that attempted to justify the claim that the attack was a mistake. On the basis of that same report, an Israeli court of inquiry completely exonerated the government and all those involved. No one was ever court-martialled, reduced in rank or even reprimanded. On the contrary, Israel chose instead to honour motor torpedo boat 203, which fired the deadly torpedo at the Liberty. The ship's wheel and bell were placed on prominent display at the naval museum, among the maritime artefacts of which the Israeli navy was most proud."

War unleashed is rarely rational. The '67 War was an audacious gamble for nascent Israel. Raw memories of Ike's humbling restraint in Suez '56 may have been fresh. Why tolerate loose ends that risk defeat? Trust no one. Better to eliminate all unknowns, anything that imperils success. The universal war code: do all that's necessary to win. Eliminate all unknowns. The rest will sort itself out. And so they did (my uneducated guess).

"surely [it's] time to declassify everything."

Couldn't agree more.

[Anon] " I am not convinced that it [attack on the Liberty] was an Israeli decision at the highest level "

We're all guessing. Hard to believe the coordination of air force and navy wouldn't rise to the highest IDF level, if not higher.

With respect, I suspect the question was meant in a different sense.

Everyone here seems to agree that the Israeli government intentionally ordered the coordinated air-sea attack on the USS Liberty – the attack does not seem to have been an instance of erroneous "friendly fire."

I read the question as asking whether the decision to attack was an Israeli decision in the sense that the idea originated with the Israeli government.

The alternative, of course, would be that LBJ and McNamara ordered Israel to attack and sink the USS Liberty as a pretext to enable the U.S. to launch an attack – possibly nuclear – against Egypt. Under this scenario, the Israeli government would have received the U.S. order and "decided" to implement the U.S. order by issuing instructions to the respective IDF units that carried out the attack.

Remember that we are talking about the same LBJ/McNamara who are KNOWN to have staged the Gulf of Tonkin spectacle (against North Vietnam) in 1964 and the USS Pueblo incident (against North Korea) in 1968.

Two points need to be addressed by any theory seeking to explain what happened:

(1) As I have pointed out many times, radar and radio surveillance technology in 1967 easily enabled the U.S. to identify the source of the coordinated attacks in real time. In addition, U.S. intelligence assets in Egypt and Israel would quickly have advised the U.S. of what actually happened.

This means that the U.S. could not have been hoodwinked, nor would the Israeli government have thought for even a second that they would be able to hoodwink the U.S. leadership. Public statements from both sides may deny this, but the state of technology in 1967 makes any claim of U.S. ignorance laughable.

(2) What did the Israeli government THINK the attack on an intelligence asset operated by their most important de facto ally would achieve?

Again, whatever may have been said in public, the idea that the U.S. leadership would think for even a second that Egypt had attacked the USS Liberty is risible, so this could not have been the intention of the Israeli government unless one posits a sudden outbreak of collective insanity.

RobinG June 8, 2017 at 1:46 am GMT

@alexander You raise a very profound point, Geo.

Why is there an urgent NEED for a "special prosecutor" to investigate the influence of a foreign power on our political system ,when it 's RUSSIA, ......but No NEED whatsoever , when its King BIBI and Israel?

Have any of our MSM outlets ever even broached this subject ?


Is the issue of "influence peddling" only germane when "some countries" are influential...but not OTHERS ?


Who made THIS the law of the land?..Who says it's "just" ?.....and why ? The investigation we need now is the murder of SETH RICH.

The whole "Impeach Trump" campaign is focused on Russian connections and alleged Russian hacking of DNC emails. Whatever anyone thinks of our legally elected President Trump, it is the office of the Presidency that is being fraudulently attacked. The Trump-haters are suppressing any information about the murder of Seth Rich, who may have leaked the DNC emails in question. That would be a leak, not a hack, and it would throw the Dems' corruption case into the toilet.

Demand an investigation.

Appoint a Special Prosecutor to investigate the murder of Seth Rich, the alleged Wikileaks email leaker.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/appoint-special-prosecutor-investigate-murder-seth-rich-alleged-wikileaks-email-leaker

On July 10, 2016, Seth Rich was shot twice in the early morning as he walked back to his house in Washington D.C. Immediately after the crime, the death was called an armed robbery but none of Seth Rich's belongings were taken from him.

Rod Wheeler, a private investigator hired by the family, said that there was evidence Seth Rich had contacted WikiLeaks and that law enforcement were covering this up. MSM is not covering this murder, instead pushing it to the side, so it is now up to us.

The facts do not add up, law enforcement stopped covering the crime, and now it is time for us to fight for justice. Seth Rich deserves this.

anon June 8, 2017 at 1:50 am GMT

@Rurik


Israel controls the world while at the same time being inept cowards.
they don't control the world, but they do control our fecal congress and our media, and the only way they were able to pull that off is because Woodrow Wilson gave them the keys to our Treasury. Trust me "anon", if I had access to trillions of dollars of wealth, that I could lend out to my buddies and force the American tax slave to pay me interest on the money I lent out, and could give my buddies interest free loans and tell them when to short certain markets and have the fecal gov bail me and my buddies out when our casino bets went bad, well then "anon", I can promise you that there'd be some serious changes in the way business was conducted around here.

All the war criminals would find themselves at the Hague but pronto.

all the banksters would be in pound-arse prison for a combined thousands + years

the American people would finally be able to vote on genuine patriots that serve their interests, and not the interests of a criminal foreign rogue state.

so many things would change, if only I owned the Federal Reserve Bank instead of international Jewish supremacists.

I'd return them to the 1948 borders and force them to compensate every single Palestinian for any and all property that the Jews have stolen from the Arabs. I'd force them to pay massive reparations for the myriad and heinous crimes they've committed over the decades.

I'd do so many things "anon". Every single deepstate agent responsible for the USS Liberty would be brought to justice, and hanged by the neck until they stopped dancing. Ditto 9/11.

the media would return to informing the public honestly and entertaining them with art that exalts the human spirit, rather than squalid potty culture.

there's just so many things that would change if only our congress would coin our currency as the Constitution demands, rather than handing that privilege over to the world's greediest banksters and notorious cowards.

yea, when it comes to financial treachery and chicanery, my hat is off to the Jews. They're second to none, and none come close. But in combat, something tells me I'd rather have a German or a Russian at me back. I'd prefer Max or Vlad if I'm going to be in a fight, and not Irving or Moshe so much.

they don't control the world, but they do control our fecal congress and our media,

What about the European governments and media ? They must be controlled by Jews as well.
Surely they are only flooding their own countries with Muslims and provoking the native population not to procreate because of the hand of the Jew ?? And what about Turki and Libya? . Surely they are controlled by Jews as well , as they are the mechanism of flooding Europe with Muslims . Surely the good Muslims of Turki and Libya are not flooding Europe and impending white genocide on their own volition . Surely the Jew must be in control of that evil as well ?? Could inept cowards really pull all of this off so smoothly ??

I'd return them to the 1948 borders and force them to compensate every single Palestinian for any and all property that the Jews have stolen from the Arabs. I'd force them to pay massive reparations for the myriad and heinous crimes they've committed over the decades

Jordan is occupying 78% of Palestine. what would your plans be for them ?
Tell me about the compensation package you would offer to the following countries that all receive US aid :
Sudan -Occupation of Darfur -700,000 killed ; Indonesia – Occupation of Papua -500,000 killed.
Turki-occupation of Kurdistan and Cyprus – 80,000 killed ; Morocco = Occupation of Western Sahara – 40,000 killed ; Entirety of Israel – Palestinian conflict – 23,000 killed

geokat62 June 8, 2017 at 2:30 am GMT

@anon


Because – unlike YOU – he loves America FIRST.
Then he should be most upset with Syria , who was complicit in the marine barracks bombing in Beirut in 1982 . You see that had American casualties of 241 killed. USS Liberty only had casualties of 35 killed. Furthermore the barracks bombing was deliberate murder whereas USS Liberty was a mistake . Also USS Liberty was a very long time ago and nothing of the sort ever happened again from the Israelis. Conversely the Beirut bombing of US marines was more recent.So by every metric , Syria is far worse .

p.s. Your comments screech JEW
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That is superiour to your comments that screech : Loser , social outcast , mentally deranged , dim witted , friendless , mentally sick , obsessed with Jews and totally unhappy .

Then he should be most upset with Syria , who was complicit in the marine barracks bombing in Beirut in 1982 .

Some background info on the incident that resulted in the deaths of hundreds of American troops:

"American Marines, who had been dispatched to Lebanon as peacekeepers to oversee the PLO evacuation but then had departed, hastily returned after the Sabra and Shatila massacres. They were housed in a large warehouse complex near Beirut's airport.

Over the next year, American forces found themselves drawn into the worsening Lebanese civil war. A key moment occurred on Sept. 18, 1983, when Reagan's national security adviser Robert McFarlane*, who was considered a staunch supporter of Israel , ordered U.S. warships to bombard Muslim targets inside Lebanon.

As Gen. Colin Powell, then a top aide to Defense Secretary Weinberger, wrote in his memoir, "When the shells started falling on the Shiites, they assumed the American 'referee' had taken sides." [See Powell's My American Journey.]

Muslim attacks on the Marines in Beirut soon escalated. On Oct. 23, 1983, two Shiite Muslims drove explosives-laden trucks into two buildings in Beirut, one housing French forces and the other the Marines. The blasts killed 241 Americans and 58 French."

https://consortiumnews.com/2016/05/19/how-israel-out-foxed-us-presidents-5/

* Just to underscore how pro-Israel Robert McFarlane is, he was among those who were calling for the release of Jonathan Pollard (in a Feb. 9 letter to President Obama).

[Jun 07, 2017] Jihad 2.0 the Making of the Next Nightmare by Pepe Escobar

Notable quotes:
"... Jihad 2.0 may be directed against Slavs in Macedonia, against Iran and against Turkey. Not to mention against the Russian underbelly. The invisible angle is that they can always be deployed to jeopardize China's drive to integrate southeast Europe as a key node of the New Silk Roads. ..."
Jun 07, 2017 | www.counterpunch.org
Let's start with 28 EU leaders discussing the Western Balkans at a recent summit and blaming – what else – "Russian aggression" in the EU's backyard.

Cue to a Montenegro prosecutor raging that "Russian state bodies" staged a coup attempt during the October 2016 elections to stop the country from joining NATO.

And cue to President of the European Commission Jean-Claude Juncker warning that Donald Trump's anti-EU rhetoric could lead to war in the Balkans. Juncker, condescending as ever, maintains that, "If we leave them to themselves - Bosnia and Herzegovina, Republika Srpska, Macedonia, Albania, all of these countries - we will have a war again."

The Balkans may be about to explode – all over again. Yet with a twist; unlike 1999, NATO won't get away with bombing a defenseless Belgrade for 78 days. A new generation of Russian missiles would easily prevent it.

The 1999 tragedy in the Balkans was essentially stirred up by fake massacres in Kosovo set up by the BND – German intelligence - using local Albanians and BND agent provocateurs, who shot both sides to stir up a war and break up Yugoslavia.

All Eyes on Albania

What's evolving at the current geopolitical juncture is even murkier.

The usual suspects do what they usually do; blame Russia, and damn any evidence.

So let a knowledgeable insider, Dr. Olsi Jazexhi, director of the Free Media Institute in Tirana, Albania, be our guide.

In December 2016, the CIA's John Brennan went to Albania and issued a fatwa for "war against Russia" – especially in Macedonia.

As Dr. Jazexhi explains , "after Brennan left Edi Rama, Prime Minister of Albania, a close friend of George Soros, gathered all Albanian political parties in Macedonia and ordered them to support Zoran Zaev against Nikola Gruevski. Gruevski is seen as filo-Russian and anti-NATO, while Zaev is a lapdog of Soros. As a result, Gruevski was boycotted by Albanians and Zaev had their support to form a government. The promise of Zaev to Albanians is that Macedonia will adapt Albanian as an official language and create a third (half) Albanian state in the Balkans. Macedonians are resisting, but Tirana and Edi Rama are orchestrating Albanian political parties against Gruevski. The end game is to make Macedonia a NATO member."

Meanwhile, in Kosovo – essentially a nasty narco-Mafioso scam posing as a state and housing Camp Bondsteel, the largest overseas US military base on the planet - Hashim Thaci, the president and former Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) goon, is "building an army for Kosovo. The final aim is to integrate Kosovo into NATO even though Serbia rejects this for its former autonomous province."

Jazexhi also details how, "in Albania, we have two major terrorist organizations being protected by the Americans and the Europeans."

The first is what Ankara describes as the Fetullah Gulen Terror organization (FETO), allegedly instrumentalized by German intelligence; "Turkey is protesting why Albania hosts the FETO group but the Americans host them against Erdogan."

The second is Mojahedin-e Khalq (MKO), which fights against Tehran; "Albania is being turned into the center of MKO. John Bolton was recently in Tirana, with other international supporters of MKO, and they are attacking Iran and calling for regime change."

The MKO's wacky Marjam Rajavi has also visited Tirana, developing plans to "topple the Ayatollahs" in Iran.

The key issue, as Jazexhi emphasizes, is that "after turning the Balkans into a recruiting center for ISIS/Daesh during the Syria war, now the Americans are turning Albania into a jihad 2.0 state."

So what is developing is "the same historical mistake as made by the Albanians of Kosovo, who have 100% linked their future with Camp Bondsteel and would will be instantly re-invaded by Serbia in case NATO or the US leave (which they will, sooner or later, inevitably).

Meanwhile, the European Union and the Americans, who want to de-radicalize the Wahhabi Muslims of Europe, keep mum about the Iranian jihadis."

The "Invisible" Enemy

So the key piece of the puzzle is the configuration of Albania as the center of Jihad 2.0 - against the Slavs in Macedonia, against Tehran, and also against Ankara. No wonder the chief adviser of the Albanian government, until a few months ago, was a certain Tony Blair.

But then there is the "invisible" enemy that really matters.

In late March, Serbian President Tomislav Nikolic went to Beijing in his last official visit before the April 2 elections. Chinese President Xi Jinping stressed that economic cooperation with Serbia – and the Balkans at large – is a priority for China.

No question. In 2014, Beijing created a fund that will invest 10 billion euros in Central and Eastern Europe. Last year, China Everbright bought Tirana's airport in Albania. China Exim Bank is financing highway construction in both Macedonia and Montenegro.

In Serbia, China Road and Bridge Corporation built the 170 million euro Pupin bridge over the Danube in Belgrade – a.k.a. the "Sino-Serbian Friendship Bridge", inaugurated in 2014 and 85% financed by a China Exim Bank loan.

And the cherry in the (infrastructure development) cake is the 350 km, $2.89 billion high-speed rail line between Athens and Budapest, via Macedonia and Belgrade.

The EU has set off alarm bells on the flagship $1.8 billion Budapest-Belgrade stretch, investigating whether the Hungarian section violated strict EU laws according to which public tenders are a must for large transportation projects.

Inbuilt is the proverbial Western haughtiness, ruling that the Chinese could not possibly be capable of building high-speed rail infrastructure as well if not better – and for a lower cost – than in Europe.

Budapest-Belgrade happens to be the crucial stretch of the Land Sea Express Route that Beijing pledged to build, way back in 2014, with Hungary, Serbia and Macedonia. That's the crux of the Southeastern Europe node of the New Silk Roads, now Belt and Road Initiative (BRI); a trade corridor between the container port of Pireus, in the Mediterranean – co-owned by China Ocean Shipping Company since 2010 – all the way to Central Europe.

NATO's official spin is that it must be planted in the Balkans to fight the "threat of terrorism." According to NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, "I recently visited Bosnia Herzegovina and Kosovo, and I'm encouraged to see how focused they are on countering the threat of foreign fighters."

Well, the "foreign fighters" happen to be right at home, not only in Kosovo but soon in Albania, the capital of Jihad 2.0. NATO after all excels in creating emerging "threats" that are essential to justify its existence.

Jihad 2.0 may be directed against Slavs in Macedonia, against Iran and against Turkey. Not to mention against the Russian underbelly. The invisible angle is that they can always be deployed to jeopardize China's drive to integrate southeast Europe as a key node of the New Silk Roads.

Pepe Escobar is the author of Globalistan: How the Globalized World is Dissolving into Liquid War (Nimble Books, 2007), Red Zone Blues: a snapshot of Baghdad during the surge and Obama does Globalistan (Nimble Books, 2009). His latest book is Empire of Chaos . He may be reached at pepeasia@yahoo.com .

[Jun 04, 2017] US Liberty incident

Notable quotes:
"... But a lot of people have speculated that the USS Liberty was sent by the Johnson regime to get sunk by Israel and be used as a false flag to take America into war against Egypt. ..."
"... We already know for a fact that jets were scrambled to assist the USS Liberty and were called back and ordered not to assist by Johnson through Secretary of State McNamara. And not once, but twice. ..."
"... So obviously Johnson wanted her sunk. Whether or not the ship was sent there for that purpose, or whether Johnson simply decided to let the Israelis sink her once he heard about it, we'll likely never know. ..."
"... Tourney says Johnson told Tully: "I don't give a [expletive] if that ship goes to the bottom and every sailor is lost. We will not embarrass our ally, Israel." ..."
Jun 04, 2017 | www.unz.com

Eagle Eye , May 24, 2017 at 12:07 am GMT

@Rurik if you (and Annamaria) don't mind, I'll address this..

What was the U.S. Liberty doing in the Red Sea in 1967?
there was a war going on between a US ally and a nation of strategic importance to the US- Israel and Egypt. The USS Liberty was a NSA intelligence ship. It was there to monitor what was going on. Duh.

explain how exactly the USS Liberty's presence was supposed to assist the "sovereignty" of Cis-Jordan (i.e. the current sovereign state of Israel).

unless you an admiral in the US Navy at the time, no one knows for sure. But a lot of people have speculated that the USS Liberty was sent by the Johnson regime to get sunk by Israel and be used as a false flag to take America into war against Egypt.

We already know for a fact that jets were scrambled to assist the USS Liberty and were called back and ordered not to assist by Johnson through Secretary of State McNamara. And not once, but twice.

So obviously Johnson wanted her sunk. Whether or not the ship was sent there for that purpose, or whether Johnson simply decided to let the Israelis sink her once he heard about it, we'll likely never know.

Hope that helps eagle

So obviously Johnson wanted her sunk. Whether or not the ship was sent there for that purpose, or whether Johnson simply decided to let the Israelis sink her once he heard about it, we'll likely never know.

This interpretation is at least internally consistent. It is also consistent with my earlier observation that nobody could seriously claim that the U.S. was ACTUALLY DECEIVED for even a split second about who launched the attack.

Putting the known factors together, we are left with two viable hypotheses as to the Israelis' reason for sinking the USS Liberty:

(1) To eliminate a mortal threat to Israel's national security in a time of war, e.g. because the USS Liberty was feeding intelligence information to Egypt and the Arabs.

(2) As an intentional false flag operation, with express (or at least hinted) support from the Pentagon for the purpose of publicly "justifying" a U.S. war against Egypt. This would necessarily mean that the sailors and staff on the USS Liberty were intentionally betrayed and sacrificed by Johnson and McNamara.

In either case, the Israeli leadership would have been painfully aware that it could NOT mislead the U.S. as to its authorship of the attack, whatever the Pentagon or Israel might later say in public later.

CanSpeccy , Website May 24, 2017 at 12:39 am GMT

@Rurik if you (and Annamaria) don't mind, I'll address this..

Hope that helps eagle A graphic account here by US naval veteran and survivor, Phil Tourney :

"Jet aircrafts came in firing and strafing our ship," he said. "Within minutes they took out hundreds of antennae and all of our .450-caliber machine guns. We were defenseless."

But all those aboard were not without hope. Utilizing true American ingenuity and never giving up their fighting spirit, Tourney described a miraculous effort.

"About half-an-hour into the attack," he said, "one of our men stretched a long wire so that we could transmit a message to the Sixth Fleet: 'Under Attack by Unmarked Fighters. Send Help.' A number of ships received this SOS, and soon Capt. Joseph Tully of the USS Saratoga ordered planes to rescue us."

However, in an act that goes well beyond betrayal into the realm of full-fledged treason, Tourney laid out how Liberty became a ship without a country.

"Defense Secretary Robert McNamara contacted the Saratoga and recalled the fighters, telling them not to aid our ship," he said. "But, showing true courage, Tully re-launched the jets, without authorization . . . After the second set of fighter jets were dispatched, the president of the United States-Lyndon Johnson-personally recalled them," said Tourney.

Tourney says Johnson told Tully: "I don't give a [expletive] if that ship goes to the bottom and every sailor is lost. We will not embarrass our ally, Israel."

A day or two later as Liberty limped toward a port in Malta, Adm. Isaac Kidd assembled the survivors in small groups and, after removing his stars, demanded to know what occurred.

After learning the truth, a red-faced Kidd pinned his stars back on his uniform and said, "If any of you ever repeat a word, I'll make sure you end up in the penitentiary, or worse," Tourney said.

[May 23, 2017] The speed of explanation might well be a useful False Flag indicator. For a False Flag to work, it cant have alternative perpetrators or confusion as to who did what. The story has to be presented fully formed and at high volume right from the start

Notable quotes:
"... nowadays my default position is to assume it's a false flag/hoax and wait for the Grassy Knollers to arrive and dismantle the narrative. ..."
"... I've also come to the understanding that the most salient point of these events is the exploitation that now inevitably follows. The manner, method, and speed with which the soon-to-follow attempt at exploitation propagates is more interesting than the actual event. ..."
May 23, 2017 | www.unz.com

Miro23 , May 23, 2017 at 6:25 am GMT

@Erebus WND has a good update on developments, even though it is "according to a WND source close to the situation."...
http://www.wnd.com/2017/05/bar-manager-cops-never-talked-with-staff-about-night-seth-rich-died/

The frustration in trying to figure out what is going on is that the world is now full of "sound and fury" signifying, not nothing but the frantic efforts by competing factions to control narratives. The noise is everywhere, all the time, and reading 30k words of crap to glean 1k words of plausibility requires an ongoing investment that's difficult to maintain. So, I've taken a different tack...

Take the Manchester bomb last night. Too early, and too little info for me to come to any sort of conclusion, but nowadays my default position is to assume it's a false flag/hoax and wait for the Grassy Knollers to arrive and dismantle the narrative. Right or wrong, they provide an invaluable yeoman's service in ferreting out what really happened.

I've also come to the understanding that the most salient point of these events is the exploitation that now inevitably follows. The manner, method, and speed with which the soon-to-follow attempt at exploitation propagates is more interesting than the actual event. It's the "Why?" behind the "How?". So, I'll wait to see whether the West should "Bomb Iran/Syria/Yemen!", or if "The Russians did it!" after all. Maybe it was the "Brexit" supporters, or the "Bremains". I don't know at this point, but it will clear up soon. 19-20 dead, so this is big enough to set the stage for somebody's meme.

Apropos the Seth Rich/email saga...

I was excitedly directed to a poster who appeared on 4Chan recently, claiming to be the ER surgeon on duty when Rich was brought in. The poster says the wounds were not life threatening, gives some details of his/her treatment of Rich's routine abdominal gunshot wounds, and weaves a coherent, professional sounding narrative about hospital routines and their disruption by Law Enforcement. All quite plausible, except for the fact that his/her timeline makes no sense, and contradicts what is officially known. Also, (s)he'd be trivial to identify, so why bother with anonymity? IOW, probably a provocation, so I wasted half an hour finding and reading it.

[Apr 22, 2017] This is one of the best articles I have read about Septemeber 11 attack. No hysterics, just facts. the classic controlled demolition style of WTC7's collapse is one of them

Apr 22, 2017 | www.unz.com

Timur The Lame , April 9, 2017 at 11:36 am GMT \n

100 Words @ Carlton Meyer,

I was peripherally displayed on 60 minutes some 20 years ago. I spent an hour chatting with Mike Wallace. I liked him. He obviously had an marching orders but seemed apologetic in demeanor. In hindsight I realized that he knew that he was a whore when pursuing political or historical issues. My comportment and wit was brilliant ( sorry for the self praise) but of the hour that was filmed they cropped out a 5 second segment that fit their agenda. I was shocked when the segment aired but I was also relatively naive at the time. In other words they were already neutered then.

As an aside, when referencing the issues with respect to WTC 7 I always referred to it as a 47 story building. Mr. Dinh now reveals that it was a 52 story building. I feel foolish.

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Vires , April 9, 2017 at 11:53 am GMT \n
400 Words Spot on Mr. Lihn, we have to distinguish between the majority of Jews, the decent and intellectually honest ones, most of them manipulated, afraid to lose their jobs and used like the rest of us, and the intellectually dishonest, sociopathic Jew supremacist shill ones (and their non-Jewish stooges, accomplices and enforcers), the Chomskies, Rumsfelds, Rotschilds, Warburgs, Rockefellers, Wilsons, Roosevelts, Churchills, Cheneys, Rubios, Clintons, Bushes, Kagans, Kristols, Wolfowitzs, Foxmans, Shermans, Incitatuses, Dissidents, Corvinuses, Iffies and the Sam the Shams of the world.

We love the decent, intellectually honest and loyal to the countries they live in ones, David Coles, Gilad Atzmons, Arno J. Mayers, Marcus Alethias and Ron Unzs of the world, we are in the same boat with them and we need them to speak up and join us.

And if some of us do not, we are just playing in the hands of the Zionists, being distrustful of all Jews and becoming Jew haters we also become their useful idiots, because the more we hate them, the likelier they are to migrate to Israel, and that is and always has been the central goal of Zionism, and that is the reason why they expect and applaud when some of us go full anti-semite, and also the reason that explains the trolling here in the comments by the Zionist shills, trying to frame bloggers and commenters as anti-semites, so the casual reader who is still on the fence on the Jewish Lobby issue dismisses the whole publication as "Jew-hater" and"Anti-semitic"

That is also the main reason Jewish movers and shakers are pushing for more immigration, the closer to Mexico the US becomes and the closer to Pakistan and Algeria Europe becomes, the more European and American Jews will go back to Israel, that is the central goal of Zionism.

The gathering of the exiles in the land of Israel, became the core idea of the Zionist Movement[1] and the core idea of Israel's Scroll of Independence[2] (Megilat Ha'atzmaut[3]), embodied by the idea of going up, Aliyah, since the Holy Land is considered to be spiritually higher than all other land.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gathering_of_Israel

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Santoculto , April 9, 2017 at 12:02 pm GMT \n
Hbd liars in only one twitt

https://mobile.twitter.com/hbdchick/status/851005493392941056?p=v

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Sherman , April 9, 2017 at 12:46 pm GMT \n
Here's another article about Christopher Bollyn and Rudy Dent and the losers and misfits they appeal to:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/10/jew-hater-christopher-bollyn-brings-9-11-false-flag-act-to-the-brooklyn-commons.html Read More

jacques sheete , April 9, 2017 at 1:06 pm GMT \n
200 Words This is one of the best articles I've read on UR, and that's saying a lot. No hysterics, just facts.

The question of the century.:

So who are you going to believe? Are you going to believe a bunch of government bureaucrats, or my fellow brothers

Warning of ages.:

Foolish Credulity

Why is it that, though deceived again and again by the same things and persons, we are unable to abandon our blind folly?

For this particular kind of fraud has often been committed before now, and by many. That other men should allow themselves to be taken in is perhaps not astonishing; but it is [astonishing]that those should do so who are the authors and origin of the same kind of malpractice.

But I suppose the cause is the absence of that rule so happily expressed by Epicharmus:

"Cool head and wise mistrust are wisdom's sinews. " . . .

- Polybius, Histories.18.40 Composed ~200BC, Translated by Evelyn S. Shuckburgh. translator. London, New York. Macmillan. 1889. Reprint Bloomington 1962.

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.01.0234:book=18:chapter=40&highlight=epicharmus

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Renoman , April 9, 2017 at 2:02 pm GMT \n
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Anonymouse , April 9, 2017 at 2:23 pm GMT \n
100 Words Doesn't the mysterious collapse of Building 7 suggest no conspiracy. As the building was empty undergoing a rebuild, what would be the point of destroying it?

From the Zionists making Pearl Harbor happen to their race being the maleficient agent directing all of human history is not that much of a leap. In sober historical fact, Zionists in 1941 in Palestine under the English mandate were not remotely in a position of power. Had they the power, they might have saved their compatriots in Europe by orchestrating massive emigration, which in fact was not permitted by the sovereign nations that might have accepted them. Of course, you can always factor in that inconvenient fact into the conspiracy theory. Read More

jacques sheete , April 9, 2017 at 2:23 pm GMT \n
@Sherman Here's another article about Christopher Bollyn and Rudy Dent and the losers and misfits they appeal to:


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/10/jew-hater-christopher-bollyn-brings-9-11-false-flag-act-to-the-brooklyn-commons.html

Here's another article

You call that credible?

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dninmore , April 9, 2017 at 2:24 pm GMT \n
Typical response from a Hasbara. No supporting evidence to refute the facts, so you go to ad hominem. Read More
dninmore , April 9, 2017 at 2:26 pm GMT \n
@Shouting Thomas You're using Louis Farrakhan as a go to source?

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dninmore , April 9, 2017 at 3:38 pm GMT \n
@Anonymouse Doesn't the mysterious collapse of Building 7 suggest no conspiracy. As the building was empty undergoing a rebuild, what would be the point of destroying it?

From the Zionists making Pearl Harbor happen to their race being the maleficient agent directing all of human history is not that much of a leap. In sober historical fact, Zionists in 1941 in Palestine under the English mandate were not remotely in a position of power. Had they the power, they might have saved their compatriots in Europe by orchestrating massive emigration, which in fact was not permitted by the sovereign nations that might have accepted them. Of course, you can always factor in that inconvenient fact into the conspiracy theory. Interesting that you state, "Had they the power, they might have saved their compatriots in Europe by orchestrating massive emigration", and ignore the truth which is that was exactly what they did. You need to do more research, unless you prefer to spout the Zio-propaganda. Read More

Agent76 , April 9, 2017 at 4:10 pm GMT \n
100 Words May 25, 2014 FDNY 9/11 Survivor Witness and Whistleblower Speaks on WTC 7

Listen very carefully starting at the '20′ second mark! As a firefighter on 9/11, he was at Ground Zero and was there when Building 7 came down.

September 11, 2016 Al Qaeda: The Data Base

Shortly before his untimely death, former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook told the House of Commons that "Al Qaeda" is not really a terrorist group but a database of international mujaheddin and arms smugglers used by the CIA and Saudis to funnel guerrillas, arms, and money into Soviet-occupied Afghanistan.

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Vires , April 9, 2017 at 4:13 pm GMT \n
100 Words @Sherman Here's another article about Christopher Bollyn and Rudy Dent and the losers and misfits they appeal to:


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/10/jew-hater-christopher-bollyn-brings-9-11-false-flag-act-to-the-brooklyn-commons.html And here you are, Goy-hater Zionist shill, right on time to disqualify the sources and the blogger by association as "Jew-haters" for publishing the story.

Sociopathic Jews like you are the ones we hate, always ready to troll, agitate and favour the Zionist agenda with obvious Jewish names so we end up distrusting all Jews, disqualify bloggers and commenters as "Jew-haters" "anti-semites" and do whatever necessary to achieve the Zionist goals without giving a damn about us Europeans and Americans.

Try something else shill your usual PR garbage ain't working no more. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

Agent76 , April 9, 2017 at 4:19 pm GMT \n
100 Words Sep 5, 2016 9/11 Suspects: Rudy Giuliani

Mayor Giuliani oversaw the illegal destruction of the 9/11 crime scene and is criminally liable for the deaths of hundreds of emergency workers for not passing on prior warnings about the collapses of the Twin Towers. It is no wonder, then, that the Fire Department of New York so passionately detest Giuliani for his actions in disgracing their fallen brothers and covering up the 9/11 crime.

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jacques sheete , April 9, 2017 at 4:25 pm GMT \n
100 Words @dninmore Interesting that you state, "Had they the power, they might have saved their compatriots in Europe by orchestrating massive emigration", and ignore the truth which is that was exactly what they did. You need to do more research, unless you prefer to spout the Zio-propaganda. Every one of the claims is likewise easily refutable. Pretty lame, all of it.

E.g., this.:

As the building was empty undergoing a rebuild, what would be the point of destroying it?

Who said it was undergoing a rebuild? Maybe it was undergoing a demolition wiring instead. Besides, even if it were initially undergoing a true rebuild, so what? Plans change. Could it be a convenient cover, diversion, perhaps? Collect insurance payouts?

Furthermore, if I were in the name-calling mode like Sherm, (but I'm not ), I'd say the true believers of the "official" narrative are saps and gulls. Read More

Wolfred , April 9, 2017 at 4:30 pm GMT \n
I used to have respect for you Linh Dinh, but no more.

You have just outed yourself as just another wacko nutjob. Read More

unit472 , April 9, 2017 at 4:38 pm GMT \n
200 Words I tend to believe my lying eyes and not deranged fanatics. Highrise buildings have not collapsed due to fire because they are not struck by fuel laden projectiles moving at 500 mph and weighing 250 tons. They also have firemen who are still alive and working fire suppression systems trying to put the fire out. All of that fire fighting capability disappeared on 9/11. The structural damage alone from the aircraft impact likely doomed both towers even in the absence of fires. NYPD helicopter pilots reported the top of towers were leaning long before they collapsed owing to the exterior steel walls being the main structural steel support in modern skyscrapers unlike the internal steel boxes used in older skyscrapers that required more steel to be used and limited floor space.

Building 7 is harder to explain but it had been hit with multiton steel beams moving at high speed from the collapse of the twin towers. These would have ripped apart electrical systems and caused fires. As building 7 was the site of the NYC Emergency operations center thousands of gallons of diesel fuel was stored in the building to operate generators and once fire personel were withdrawn nothing was left to prevent fire from reaching those generators and fuel supplies. Read More

Amanda , April 9, 2017 at 4:39 pm GMT \n
100 Words Article mentioned Rothschilds instigating, orchestrating, and profiting from WW2 and I also wanted to add what loyal American Jew, Benjamin Freedman had to say about WW1 and WW2 (he ought to know b/c he was the right hand man of Bernard Baruch, Rothschild front-man, basically the Soros of yesterday.

Benjamin Freedman's 1961 Speech at the Willard Hotel (Complete)

Benjamin H. Freedman's excellent speech on how World War One (and Two) really started and why the U.S. was eventually drawn in. Read More

dninmore , April 9, 2017 at 5:02 pm GMT \n
@jacques sheete Every one of the claims is likewise easily refutable. Pretty lame, all of it.

E.g., this.:


As the building was empty undergoing a rebuild, what would be the point of destroying it?
Who said it was undergoing a rebuild? Maybe it was undergoing a demolition wiring instead. Besides, even if it were initially undergoing a true rebuild, so what? Plans change. Could it be a convenient cover, diversion, perhaps? Collect insurance payouts?

Furthermore, if I were in the name-calling mode like Sherm, (but I'm not...), I'd say the true believers of the "official" narrative are saps and gulls. In 12 years of research, I've never heard of a whole building renovation. More disinformation. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

dninmore , April 9, 2017 at 5:03 pm GMT \n
@Wolfred I used to have respect for you Linh Dinh, but no more.

You have just outed yourself as just another wacko nutjob. Spoken like a true Hasbara. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

jacques sheete , April 9, 2017 at 5:10 pm GMT \n
@unit472 I tend to believe my lying eyes and not deranged fanatics. Highrise buildings have not collapsed due to fire because they are not struck by fuel laden projectiles moving at 500 mph and weighing 250 tons. They also have firemen who are still alive and working fire suppression systems trying to put the fire out. All of that fire fighting capability disappeared on 9/11. The structural damage alone from the aircraft impact likely doomed both towers even in the absence of fires. NYPD helicopter pilots reported the top of towers were leaning long before they collapsed owing to the exterior steel walls being the main structural steel support in modern skyscrapers unlike the internal steel boxes used in older skyscrapers that required more steel to be used and limited floor space.

Building 7 is harder to explain but it had been hit with multiton steel beams moving at high speed from the collapse of the twin towers. These would have ripped apart electrical systems and caused fires. As building 7 was the site of the NYC Emergency operations center thousands of gallons of diesel fuel was stored in the building to operate generators and once fire personel were withdrawn nothing was left to prevent fire from reaching those generators and fuel supplies.

Building 7 is harder to explain

As in harder to lie about?

Does the command, "Pull it" mean anything to the true believers? Or how about the idea that it was reported collapsing even before it did?

'Splain that. (Yeah, yeah, I know, it's a "myth.") Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

dninmore , April 9, 2017 at 5:16 pm GMT \n
@unit472 I tend to believe my lying eyes and not deranged fanatics. Highrise buildings have not collapsed due to fire because they are not struck by fuel laden projectiles moving at 500 mph and weighing 250 tons. They also have firemen who are still alive and working fire suppression systems trying to put the fire out. All of that fire fighting capability disappeared on 9/11. The structural damage alone from the aircraft impact likely doomed both towers even in the absence of fires. NYPD helicopter pilots reported the top of towers were leaning long before they collapsed owing to the exterior steel walls being the main structural steel support in modern skyscrapers unlike the internal steel boxes used in older skyscrapers that required more steel to be used and limited floor space.

Building 7 is harder to explain but it had been hit with multiton steel beams moving at high speed from the collapse of the twin towers. These would have ripped apart electrical systems and caused fires. As building 7 was the site of the NYC Emergency operations center thousands of gallons of diesel fuel was stored in the building to operate generators and once fire personel were withdrawn nothing was left to prevent fire from reaching those generators and fuel supplies. Fires can't bring down steel superstructures. It's physically impossible. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

Amanda , April 9, 2017 at 5:48 pm GMT \n
300 Words Also, fwiw, I first learned about Benjamin Freedman from the site http://www.iamthewitness.com , which was basically a site dedicated to researching Zionism. The site was run by an American living in France, and he unfortunately had to shut the site down due to concerns about French laws against free speech. Anyway, for now, there is a mirror site here https://archive.is/UNAqf (not sure how long the mirror will be up, but it would be a shame to lose the info at that site)

Anyone interested in hidden history might want to go through the archives on that site, especially the books. Daryl was able to find some interesting books on hidden/suppressed history, and was able to get them converted so they could be read online. IMO, there are tons of books there worth downloading and reading. A few that stood out to me included the books by Archibald Maule Ramsey, George Armstrong, Executive Intelligence Review (The Ugly Truth about the ADL), Nesta Webster, and Jack Bernstein. Also, fwiw, in one of the books by Bernstein (not sure when it was written but I think decades before 911), he wrote about how at some point the Zionists would drag the US into a huge war in the Middle East and then the Zionist bankers would collapse the economy.

The audios also have good info, but there aren't any summaries of the topics discussed. I recall the audios w/David Pidcock being especially informative (especially the early ones from '06). Pidcock also liked to dig into the history and found some interesting info. I remember one book he talked about was called Propaganda in the Next War, and I guess it was written by British Establishment types, and it was all about how to drag the US into war. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments

nsa , April 9, 2017 at 6:00 pm GMT \n
Anyone see the hilarious picture of General (((Kushner))) in Iraq with his pencil neck sticking out of a bulky flak jacket looking like a tortoise walking erect. Even the jooies must want to disown this vile embarrassment ..only thing missing was a dukakis tank helmet and a BB gun. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
Dave337 , April 9, 2017 at 6:13 pm GMT \n
@unit472 I tend to believe my lying eyes and not deranged fanatics. Highrise buildings have not collapsed due to fire because they are not struck by fuel laden projectiles moving at 500 mph and weighing 250 tons. They also have firemen who are still alive and working fire suppression systems trying to put the fire out. All of that fire fighting capability disappeared on 9/11. The structural damage alone from the aircraft impact likely doomed both towers even in the absence of fires. NYPD helicopter pilots reported the top of towers were leaning long before they collapsed owing to the exterior steel walls being the main structural steel support in modern skyscrapers unlike the internal steel boxes used in older skyscrapers that required more steel to be used and limited floor space.

Building 7 is harder to explain but it had been hit with multiton steel beams moving at high speed from the collapse of the twin towers. These would have ripped apart electrical systems and caused fires. As building 7 was the site of the NYC Emergency operations center thousands of gallons of diesel fuel was stored in the building to operate generators and once fire personel were withdrawn nothing was left to prevent fire from reaching those generators and fuel supplies. I'd agree with that but I still don't quite get the lack of plane wreckage at the Pentagon. Of course conspiracy theorists always have an explanation, which may be part of the conspiracy too. Read More

Anonymouse , April 9, 2017 at 6:44 pm GMT \n
300 Words @dninmore Interesting that you state, "Had they the power, they might have saved their compatriots in Europe by orchestrating massive emigration", and ignore the truth which is that was exactly what they did. You need to do more research, unless you prefer to spout the Zio-propaganda. In 1945 I was eleven. The newspapers printed pics of the concentration survivors of the extermination camps liberated by USArmy troups. This was Brooklyn. No Zionist compatriots arrived during the war. After the war, there was a flood of camp survivors who made it to the US. Humble anecdote to establish my claim. I looked up our last name in the Brooklyn phone book back then. There were 3 of that name, my father, my uncle and a third unknown to me. Now were you to look at the Brooklyn phone book as of the last time it was printed and distributed, an enormous number of that last name appears. Proving my claim that there was NO sizeable Jewish immigrants during WW II because the allied sovereign nations wouldn't let them in. Fast forward to 2017 and above and below this comment, one may read the comments of well-meaning folks who know better. Am I part of the conspiracy? I just go on what I know by observation and the perusal of more or less mainstream news sources, US, English, French, Israeli, German. I've done that for a very long time and it seems reasonable to me to believe that I have as a good a sense of recent world history as is practically possible. If the truth is that the Zionists saved their compatriots from Hitler by having their puppets, the US and GB, let them in, then why didn't they show up in Brooklyn during the war where you might expect them to go, and did show up in sizeable numbers AFTER the war was over? Read More
Truth , April 9, 2017 at 7:02 pm GMT \n
@NoseytheDuke Linh Dinh, this is surely your best piece in ages, if not ever. Well done. Rudy Dent truly loves America and America should love him for that. I second Dinh! And in honor of your hosts for this landmarking event; "Youze an O.G N-!" Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
Truth , April 9, 2017 at 7:06 pm GMT \n
@Dave337 I'd agree with that but I still don't quite get the lack of plane wreckage at the Pentagon. Of course conspiracy theorists always have an explanation, which may be part of the conspiracy too. I'd agree with that but I still don't quite get the lack of plane wreckage at the Pentagon.

LOL; what is there not to get; IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

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Anonymous33 , April 9, 2017 at 7:24 pm GMT \n
200 Words The real debate of the moment is whether Assad "did or didn'". The news is tellin' us he did, the alter-news says well maybe he didn'. Back n' forth it goes, like a little gerbil wheel for your mind. Maybe melting steel caused the gas release? What's for dinner?

The media works as one, developing your rodent like response to ignore the forest for the trees and focus on your next food pellet. So it is with the great sporting event of the 9/11, back n' forth, easy to digest, processed just for you.

Dinh might be a nice guy and believe in what he does, but he's just another narcotics courier, delivering thoughts and ideas that so many of his kind are trained to do, that serve to disable people more effectively than any overt real weapon. Getting any reaction is valuable, the best artists are widely hated, and they love that hate, but I'd say your real enemies (readers) are the ones you least suspect.

They'll call you terrorists, as Chris Hedges is increasingly doing to the people that read his output! Sound familiar? Linh Dinh's "violence" comes from his pen. He openly mocks his own neighbors, you love that hate, and even when he mocks you you'll still believe he offers the "truth" and hang on to every word. Ignore the forest for the trees at your own perile, but the bad guys are the ones you trust. Read More Troll: utu

dninmore , April 9, 2017 at 7:33 pm GMT \n
300 Words @Anonymouse In 1945 I was eleven. The newspapers printed pics of the concentration survivors of the extermination camps liberated by USArmy troups. This was Brooklyn. No Zionist compatriots arrived during the war. After the war, there was a flood of camp survivors who made it to the US. Humble anecdote to establish my claim. I looked up our last name in the Brooklyn phone book back then. There were 3 of that name, my father, my uncle and a third unknown to me. Now were you to look at the Brooklyn phone book as of the last time it was printed and distributed, an enormous number of that last name appears. Proving my claim that there was NO sizeable Jewish immigrants during WW II because the allied sovereign nations wouldn't let them in. Fast forward to 2017 and above and below this comment, one may read the comments of well-meaning folks who know better. Am I part of the conspiracy? I just go on what I know by observation and the perusal of more or less mainstream news sources, US, English, French, Israeli, German. I've done that for a very long time and it seems reasonable to me to believe that I have as a good a sense of recent world history as is practically possible. If the truth is that the Zionists saved their compatriots from Hitler by having their puppets, the US and GB, let them in, then why didn't they show up in Brooklyn during the war where you might expect them to go, and did show up in sizeable numbers AFTER the war was over? This answer is simple. The Zionists were sending their "compatriots" – by force – to Palestine to populate their new illegitimate state – which is now a rogue, Apartheid one. The whole point of Zionism was to take over the world (their words, not mine), create a Jewish state in Palestine (not their first or second choice, btw), by butchering the native population – ethnic cleansing – to create the center for their NWO. They were even happy to blow up about 2,000 of their "compatriots" in a false flag on the ship Patria docked in port at Haifa to blame on the Brits – typical, yes? I'm sure you've heard of their policy to strip Jewish orphans from their European homes – at gun-point – to bring them to Palestine for the soon-to-be IDF model of violent indoctrination of their youth against Palestinians.

It's true Americans, and most of the world, wanted nothing to do with the parasitic Zionists. The fact that they were able to create both WWI and II, the UN, get their resolution passed and invade Palestine is a testament to how high they had infiltrated the US and GB governments. Of course, it helps when you have Chief SC Justice Brandeis and Franfurter, legislating from the court on behalf of the Zionists and all of the resources of the Rothchild gangsters.

Currently, 90% of the most powerful individuals in the US government, media and banks are Ashkenazy Jews – yet are only 2% of the US population and Ashkenazy are only 4% of that. Think about it.

As far as "extermination camps" go, the only ones I'm aware of (WWII) were created after the war by Eisenhower to finish what the Allies had begun. The only true "Holocaust" (destruction or slaughter on a mass scale, especially caused by fire or nuclear war), was caused by the Allies on the German people in the horrific, unstoppable bombardments of phosphorous all over that country. These facts are never shown in the media, history education or Hollywood. I wonder why that is? Read More

Agent76 , April 9, 2017 at 7:49 pm GMT \n
100 Words Sep 11, 2013 9/11 In A Nutshell as James Corbett presents this 5 minute parody of the official conspiracy theory of 9/11

https://youtu.be/vrJiKbK0tVM

Oct 8, 2016 Afghanistan: 15 Years of Invasion and Occupation

15 years after NATO's invasion and occupation of Afghanistan, the 9/11 and Al Qaeda lies that were used to justify the war have disappeared. Now the truth about oil and gas, mineral wealth, opium and naked imperial ambition are all that remain.

https://youtu.be/UBOdbkqVGAY Read More

jacques sheete , April 9, 2017 at 8:02 pm GMT \n
@dninmore This answer is simple. The Zionists were sending their "compatriots" - by force - to Palestine to populate their new illegitimate state - which is now a rogue, Apartheid one. The whole point of Zionism was to take over the world (their words, not mine), create a Jewish state in Palestine (not their first or second choice, btw), by butchering the native population - ethnic cleansing - to create the center for their NWO. They were even happy to blow up about 2,000 of their "compatriots" in a false flag on the ship Patria docked in port at Haifa to blame on the Brits - typical, yes? I'm sure you've heard of their policy to strip Jewish orphans from their European homes - at gun-point - to bring them to Palestine for the soon-to-be IDF model of violent indoctrination of their youth against Palestinians.

It's true Americans, and most of the world, wanted nothing to do with the parasitic Zionists. The fact that they were able to create both WWI and II, the UN, get their resolution passed and invade Palestine is a testament to how high they had infiltrated the US and GB governments. Of course, it helps when you have Chief SC Justice Brandeis and Franfurter, legislating from the court on behalf of the Zionists and all of the resources of the Rothchild gangsters.

Currently, 90% of the most powerful individuals in the US government, media and banks are Ashkenazy Jews - yet are only 2% of the US population and Ashkenazy are only 4% of that. Think about it.

As far as "extermination camps" go, the only ones I'm aware of (WWII) were created after the war by Eisenhower to finish what the Allies had begun. The only true "Holocaust" (destruction or slaughter on a mass scale, especially caused by fire or nuclear war), was caused by the Allies on the German people in the horrific, unstoppable bombardments of phosphorous all over that country. These facts are never shown in the media, history education or Hollywood. I wonder why that is?

This answer is simple.

Yes it is, and I wonder why the obvious escapes so many. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

jacques sheete , April 9, 2017 at 8:37 pm GMT \n
@Wolfred I used to have respect for you Linh Dinh, but no more.

You have just outed yourself as just another wacko nutjob.

You have just outed yourself as just another wacko nutjob.

I bet that just crushes the poor dude. Probably won't sleep for nights over it.

Lame stuff there, Tiger! Is that the best you got? Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

daniel le mouche , April 9, 2017 at 8:40 pm GMT \n
@wayfarer "War on Terror!"

The Caucasoid race of Aryan, Semitic, and Hamitic have their disparate ideologies, which offer few spiritual crumbs in the way of practical wisdom or useful esoteric knowledge. If the deeper mysteries/truths of creation were genuinely revealed and shared openly within these disparate ideologies, self-serving warfare would not be such a common practice.

Contemplate the spiritual truth that a warrior's odyssey is futile, for it's absolutely impossible to destroy the eternal life/soul of one's enemy.

Peace. forget 'caucasoid race', etc., all races fall for the manipulators' b.s.
tell me (forget about 'immortal souls'), does living a complete lie–completely clueless–constitute living?
'we will know we have won when everything the public believes is false.'–william casey, ex-cia director Read More

dcite , April 9, 2017 at 9:16 pm GMT \n
200 Words @Anonymouse Doesn't the mysterious collapse of Building 7 suggest no conspiracy. As the building was empty undergoing a rebuild, what would be the point of destroying it?

From the Zionists making Pearl Harbor happen to their race being the maleficient agent directing all of human history is not that much of a leap. In sober historical fact, Zionists in 1941 in Palestine under the English mandate were not remotely in a position of power. Had they the power, they might have saved their compatriots in Europe by orchestrating massive emigration, which in fact was not permitted by the sovereign nations that might have accepted them. Of course, you can always factor in that inconvenient fact into the conspiracy theory.

Doesn't the mysterious collapse of Building 7 suggest no conspiracy. As the building was empty undergoing a rebuild, what would be the point of destroying it?

I'm sure Larry Silverstein has the answer to that one. Snopes and "urban myths" assures us that it is, indeed, an urban myth, that Silverstein took out more insurance on Bldg 7 before 9/11/ and his decision to "pull it" (which meant it had to already be ready to pull.) But I don't trust them. Do you? I've also heard there were records being stored in Bldg 7 that "they" would prefer destroyed. Killing two birds with one stone so to speak.
Here's c&p partial table of contents for Bldg 7: offices of the FBI, Department of Defense, IRS (which contained prodigious amounts of corporate tax fraud, including Enron's), US Secret Service, Securities & Exchange Commission (with more stock fraud records), and Citibank's Salomon Smith Barney, the Mayor's Office of Emergency Management and many other financial institutions.
The well known Kissinger quote about soldiers just leaves one dropped jaw. How is it that we have allowed that creature such power. There he always was, at the top of some invisible pyramid. Could anyone see the trajectory of his rise? What allowed him to conduct human sacrifice on citizens of his own country and others. Read More

daniel le mouche , April 9, 2017 at 9:27 pm GMT \n
100 Words Haven't read the article yet, but love the woman's sign in the picture–'Our oppression is NOT up for debate'.
And boy does she look oppressed, along with her co-religionists/racists on the top of every profession that manipulates everyone else–hollywood, network tv, radio, newspapers, magazines, the music industry, universities, government, banks.
Nice try, prick. (Not that a single Unz reader was fooled.) Read More
Amanda , April 9, 2017 at 9:46 pm GMT \n
@Agent76 Sep 11, 2013 9/11 In A Nutshell as James Corbett presents this 5 minute parody of the official conspiracy theory of 9/11

https://youtu.be/vrJiKbK0tVM

Oct 8, 2016 Afghanistan: 15 Years of Invasion and Occupation

15 years after NATO's invasion and occupation of Afghanistan, the 9/11 and Al Qaeda lies that were used to justify the war have disappeared. Now the truth about oil and gas, mineral wealth, opium and naked imperial ambition are all that remain.

https://youtu.be/UBOdbkqVGAY Thanks for linking to James Corbett's video on 9/11–unfortunately, it should have many more views Read More

iffen , April 9, 2017 at 9:55 pm GMT \n
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windship , April 9, 2017 at 10:01 pm GMT \n
200 Words My father was a career fireman who had tackled V2 rocket fires in WW2, and both airplane and high rise fires later, and was truly shocked by what happened on 9/11. It ate away at him and his belief in conservative politics. When he died a few years later he left me a large book collection on 9/11, which was quite an education – all of David Ray Griffin's efforts to wake people up, and a lot of photographic evidence he had collected. Since then, I've pursued the truth about those events in due respect for my father. I can see when politicians are lying, and when eye witnesses are telling the truth, and when people I know don't want to hear what I'm saying.

There really cannot be peace in this world when so much international policy is now built on such a rotten and blood-soaked foundation of deceit. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments

Amanda , April 9, 2017 at 10:11 pm GMT \n
100 Words @dcite

Doesn't the mysterious collapse of Building 7 suggest no conspiracy. As the building was empty undergoing a rebuild, what would be the point of destroying it?
I'm sure Larry Silverstein has the answer to that one. Snopes and "urban myths" assures us that it is, indeed, an urban myth, that Silverstein took out more insurance on Bldg 7 before 9/11/ and his decision to "pull it" (which meant it had to already be ready to pull.) But I don't trust them. Do you? I've also heard there were records being stored in Bldg 7 that "they" would prefer destroyed. Killing two birds with one stone so to speak.
Here's c&p partial table of contents for Bldg 7: offices of the FBI, Department of Defense, IRS (which contained prodigious amounts of corporate tax fraud, including Enron's), US Secret Service, Securities & Exchange Commission (with more stock fraud records), and Citibank's Salomon Smith Barney, the Mayor's Office of Emergency Management and many other financial institutions.
The well known Kissinger quote about soldiers just leaves one dropped jaw. How is it that we have allowed that creature such power. There he always was, at the top of some invisible pyramid. Could anyone see the trajectory of his rise? What allowed him to conduct human sacrifice on citizens of his own country and others. Yes, they always kill lots of birds with one stone. I also read about important documents being destroyed in Building 7 (pretty sure this was the case w/OKC bombing, apparently documents on Waco were destroyed)

Also, Max Keiser (years ago, can't recall which episode) talked about major financial fraud being run out of Cantor Fitzgerald (can't remember the details, but the idea was they were counterfeiting treasuries in extreme amounts, so all that evidence was also conveniently destroyed). And, of course there was also the targeting of the auditing offices at the pentagon that were looking into the missing $2.3 trillion (more on this here https://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2014/10/13/counterfeiting-trillions-of-dollars-in-us-treasury-bonds-and-other-crimes/ )

Yes, Kissinger is a monster, probably protected b/c he works for the Oligarchy. It seems like all of our war criminals are a protected class. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

vinteuil , April 9, 2017 at 11:00 pm GMT \n
So, LD, it was you.

And all because I made the obvious point that you couldn't tell a flying squirrel from a hole in the ground – that you were a fantasist, & not a reporter. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments

Agent76 , April 10, 2017 at 1:11 am GMT \n
100 Words @unit472 I tend to believe my lying eyes and not deranged fanatics. Highrise buildings have not collapsed due to fire because they are not struck by fuel laden projectiles moving at 500 mph and weighing 250 tons. They also have firemen who are still alive and working fire suppression systems trying to put the fire out. All of that fire fighting capability disappeared on 9/11. The structural damage alone from the aircraft impact likely doomed both towers even in the absence of fires. NYPD helicopter pilots reported the top of towers were leaning long before they collapsed owing to the exterior steel walls being the main structural steel support in modern skyscrapers unlike the internal steel boxes used in older skyscrapers that required more steel to be used and limited floor space.

Building 7 is harder to explain but it had been hit with multiton steel beams moving at high speed from the collapse of the twin towers. These would have ripped apart electrical systems and caused fires. As building 7 was the site of the NYC Emergency operations center thousands of gallons of diesel fuel was stored in the building to operate generators and once fire personel were withdrawn nothing was left to prevent fire from reaching those generators and fuel supplies. It is really not hard if you read the right quality and quantity of books. September 07, 2016 September 11, 2001: The 15th Anniversary of the Crime and Cover-up of the Century "What Really Happened"?

WTC Building exploding into fine dust (it is not burning down) by pre-planted explosives in an obvious controlled demolition.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/september-11-2001-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-crime-and-cover-up-of-the-century/5544414 Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

wayfarer , April 10, 2017 at 1:54 am GMT \n
100 Words @daniel le mouche forget 'caucasoid race', etc., all races fall for the manipulators' b.s.
tell me (forget about 'immortal souls'), does living a complete lie--completely clueless--constitute living?
'we will know we have won when everything the public believes is false.'--william casey, ex-cia director I refer to disparate ideologies of the Caucasoid race, as divergent western religions (Islam, Christianity, and Judaism). These are the individual factions waging a "War on Terror" (WoT).

It is infighting within the Caucasoid race, caused by conflicting dogma that originates from "sacred texts" that are not too dissimilar from legacy software, which hasn't been updated for several thousand years.

IMO, the concept of an infinite intelligence/creative force within our universe, is so far beyond the antiquated teachings of the Torah, Bible, and Quran.

In this sense, I believe western civilization is spending its life living a lie, engulfed within ignorance. Read More

dninmore , April 10, 2017 at 1:58 am GMT \n
@Anonymous33 The real debate of the moment is whether Assad "did or didn'". The news is tellin' us he did, the alter-news says well maybe he didn'. Back n' forth it goes, like a little gerbil wheel for your mind. Maybe melting steel caused the gas release? What's for dinner?

The media works as one, developing your rodent like response to ignore the forest for the trees and focus on your next food pellet. So it is with the great sporting event of the 9/11, back n' forth, easy to digest, processed just for you.

Dinh might be a nice guy and believe in what he does, but he's just another narcotics courier, delivering thoughts and ideas that so many of his kind are trained to do, that serve to disable people more effectively than any overt real weapon. Getting any reaction is valuable, the best artists are widely hated, and they love that hate, but I'd say your real enemies (readers) are the ones you least suspect.

They'll call you terrorists, as Chris Hedges is increasingly doing to the people that read his output! Sound familiar? Linh Dinh's "violence" comes from his pen. He openly mocks his own neighbors, you love that hate, and even when he mocks you you'll still believe he offers the "truth" and hang on to every word. Ignore the forest for the trees at your own perile, but the bad guys are the ones you trust. WWII B-52 slams into the Empire State in a fog. No collapse. The twin towers were BUILT to withstand TWO airplane collisions. No complete collapse of a steel superstructure has ever happened before or since 9/11. How stupid, or how connected to Zio-trash are you? Read More

Falsehood , April 10, 2017 at 2:08 am GMT \n
100 Words @Truth I'd agree with that but I still don't quite get the lack of plane wreckage at the Pentagon.

LOL; what is there not to get; IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

I'm still waiting to see ONE photo of airplane wreckage on the pentagon lawn. The FBI just released pictures from the Pentagon crash site showing pieces of aircraft. Unfortunately this threatens years of efforts online to get people to focus, discuss and be monitored as they obsess over an elaborate connivance. A smaller effort in the war on terror programming aimed at the American mind.

What do you think the purpose of spreading nonsense like "a rocket hit the Pentagon" really is? Another fake point of opposition to the "evil Goverment's story" right? The more effective Government designs the attacks, designs the conspiracy chatter, and creates it's own opposition. Read More

Sam J. , April 10, 2017 at 2:37 am GMT \n
500 Words Most of the people here already know the story but to make sure others understand. There is no way possible that building #7 could have fallen the way it did without some type of demolition. I will explain. On 9-11 Building #7 fell the same speed as a rock dropped beside it in free air for roughly 108 feet. This means the building had no resistance to falling except air. Impossible without explosives.

All materials fall the same speed in a gravity field disregarding air friction which I don't thing we need to worry about for a building falling. So the speed of our imaginary rock falling next to the building is just gravity related. The speed of the buildings falling, the exact same as the rock, is just gravity also. This means that there was NOTHING to slow the fall of the building. The density of the material under the imaginary rock falling was air. The building fell the same therefore the density of the material under the building was also air. We know this is not true. Building #7 was not hovering in the air. The lower portions of the building were demoed out from under it.

It's makes NO difference how big the fires were. The buildings density never reached the same value as air! The fires did not boil away the building structure where it was light as air! All the talk about damage, fires, this, that, all bullshit because the building fell with all four corners almost level the same speed as a rock in AIR. If a building falls as fast as a rock and the rock is falling through JUST AIR then the building is falling through JUST AIR also. Simple equivalence. 1=1, 2=2, big rock falling in air=small rock falling in air=building falling in air. One problem is people sometimes believe that a really heavy thing will fall faster than a lighter thing. Not true. Look at this video of the Apollo astronaut dropping a feather and a hammer on the Moon. They land at the same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C5_dOEyAfk

This is one of the best videos I've seen on the building #1 and #2. It's by a Mechanical Engineer. It's very interesting by itself even if you don't believe in any conspiracy, it's shows the towers, how they're designed and there's no hold your breath type speculation stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABuCO5ifeIE

The was a person in the building when some explosions happened. Barry Jennings a Emergency Management Worker who was in the building by accident and testified on tape the day it happened and later to a separate film crew. My guess is building 7 was supposed to come down at the same time the North tower fell and it's fall would covered by the dust plum or just in the general confusion but it didn't. Somebody screwed up. Building 7′s fall is the single best piece of information on 9-11 being a false flag and they know it. There's no way possible to twist the fall of this building into any reality without there being some demo or whatever to destroy the bottom out from under it. Read More

NoseytheDuke , April 10, 2017 at 3:52 am GMT \n
@Wolfred I used to have respect for you Linh Dinh, but no more.

You have just outed yourself as just another wacko nutjob. Any sound of dripping you may hear would more likely be that of a dripping tap than of Linh Dinh weeping at the thought of losing the respect of a nimrod such as the one who wrote the post I'm responding to. Seriously. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

Truth , April 10, 2017 at 3:57 am GMT \n
@Falsehood The FBI just released pictures from the Pentagon crash site showing pieces of aircraft. Unfortunately this threatens years of efforts online to get people to focus, discuss and be monitored as they obsess over an elaborate connivance. A smaller effort in the war on terror programming aimed at the American mind.

What do you think the purpose of spreading nonsense like "a rocket hit the Pentagon" really is? Another fake point of opposition to the "evil Goverment's story" right? The more effective Government designs the attacks, designs the conspiracy chatter, and creates it's own opposition. Please post away, my friend, I'd love to see one. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

2stateshmoostate , April 10, 2017 at 4:01 am GMT \n
200 Words Excellent article.
I think there are only two way we might end control of the US government by the traitors who perpetrated 911.
One is to expose them at their most vulnerable point and that is 911. That attack doesn't hold up to reason. There's an endless of inconsistencies and contradictions that I won't go into here. How to get the attention of the American people? I don't know. I don't understand why the leaders adversarial states don't bring up the obvious fact that 911 was a false flag operation. This in order to DE-legitimize or create suspicion towards the US government. This is the kind of story I would think RT news would publish, and maybe they will if hostilities escalate between Russia and the US.
The other way we might get rid of these traitors is how Argentina got rid of the Generals; A massive military defeat that causes even the mindless lumps that are most of Americans to set up and take notice.
Ultimately these traitors will go, it's only a question of when and how much damage they do in the mean time.
Also I want to congratulate Mr. Dinh on his accurate prediction in a previous article that Trump was just another neocon puppet. I always agreed with that, because the scum that did 911 were not about to let anyone they don't control, get elected president of the US. Read More
2stateshmoostate , April 10, 2017 at 4:06 am GMT \n
@Shouting Thomas You're using Louis Farrakhan as a go to source?

You just trashed yourself. If you want to hear the truth about the US don't listen to Americas friends, listen to what our enemies and critics have to say. This is just plain common sense. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

NoseytheDuke , April 10, 2017 at 4:08 am GMT \n
100 Words @Falsehood The FBI just released pictures from the Pentagon crash site showing pieces of aircraft. Unfortunately this threatens years of efforts online to get people to focus, discuss and be monitored as they obsess over an elaborate connivance. A smaller effort in the war on terror programming aimed at the American mind.

What do you think the purpose of spreading nonsense like "a rocket hit the Pentagon" really is? Another fake point of opposition to the "evil Goverment's story" right? The more effective Government designs the attacks, designs the conspiracy chatter, and creates it's own opposition. How does a commercial passenger plane crash into a building and leave a hole about one third the size of the area of itself? How does a large, hollow, thin-skinned, alloy fuselage manage to penetrate several very thick walls all the way through to the third ring of the Pentagon?

A simple answer to both questions is, they don't. Both explanations are impossible. Pictures taken immediately afterwards are available on the web so you can see for yourself, and why has it taken you so long to look into this? Don't you care at all about the USA or are you just trolling? Read More

2stateshmoostate , April 10, 2017 at 4:27 am GMT \n
@Anonymous33 The real debate of the moment is whether Assad "did or didn'". The news is tellin' us he did, the alter-news says well maybe he didn'. Back n' forth it goes, like a little gerbil wheel for your mind. Maybe melting steel caused the gas release? What's for dinner?

The media works as one, developing your rodent like response to ignore the forest for the trees and focus on your next food pellet. So it is with the great sporting event of the 9/11, back n' forth, easy to digest, processed just for you.

Dinh might be a nice guy and believe in what he does, but he's just another narcotics courier, delivering thoughts and ideas that so many of his kind are trained to do, that serve to disable people more effectively than any overt real weapon. Getting any reaction is valuable, the best artists are widely hated, and they love that hate, but I'd say your real enemies (readers) are the ones you least suspect.

They'll call you terrorists, as Chris Hedges is increasingly doing to the people that read his output! Sound familiar? Linh Dinh's "violence" comes from his pen. He openly mocks his own neighbors, you love that hate, and even when he mocks you you'll still believe he offers the "truth" and hang on to every word. Ignore the forest for the trees at your own perile, but the bad guys are the ones you trust. You are either computer-bot writing this drivel or a paid troll. Either way your just wasting time. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

Truth , April 10, 2017 at 4:35 am GMT \n
@NoseytheDuke How does a commercial passenger plane crash into a building and leave a hole about one third the size of the area of itself? How does a large, hollow, thin-skinned, alloy fuselage manage to penetrate several very thick walls all the way through to the third ring of the Pentagon?

A simple answer to both questions is, they don't. Both explanations are impossible. Pictures taken immediately afterwards are available on the web so you can see for yourself, and why has it taken you so long to look into this? Don't you care at all about the USA or are you just trolling? He's a Government-sanctioned cointelpro shill. If this is false, the truth is even worse. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

animalogic , April 10, 2017 at 5:05 am GMT \n
@dninmore This answer is simple. The Zionists were sending their "compatriots" - by force - to Palestine to populate their new illegitimate state - which is now a rogue, Apartheid one. The whole point of Zionism was to take over the world (their words, not mine), create a Jewish state in Palestine (not their first or second choice, btw), by butchering the native population - ethnic cleansing - to create the center for their NWO. They were even happy to blow up about 2,000 of their "compatriots" in a false flag on the ship Patria docked in port at Haifa to blame on the Brits - typical, yes? I'm sure you've heard of their policy to strip Jewish orphans from their European homes - at gun-point - to bring them to Palestine for the soon-to-be IDF model of violent indoctrination of their youth against Palestinians.

It's true Americans, and most of the world, wanted nothing to do with the parasitic Zionists. The fact that they were able to create both WWI and II, the UN, get their resolution passed and invade Palestine is a testament to how high they had infiltrated the US and GB governments. Of course, it helps when you have Chief SC Justice Brandeis and Franfurter, legislating from the court on behalf of the Zionists and all of the resources of the Rothchild gangsters.

Currently, 90% of the most powerful individuals in the US government, media and banks are Ashkenazy Jews - yet are only 2% of the US population and Ashkenazy are only 4% of that. Think about it.

As far as "extermination camps" go, the only ones I'm aware of (WWII) were created after the war by Eisenhower to finish what the Allies had begun. The only true "Holocaust" (destruction or slaughter on a mass scale, especially caused by fire or nuclear war), was caused by the Allies on the German people in the horrific, unstoppable bombardments of phosphorous all over that country. These facts are never shown in the media, history education or Hollywood. I wonder why that is? Just a question: my understanding is that many 100,000′s Jew's were shot in Russia, Ukraine etc in 41-42′ (einstazgruppen [sp ?]) Is this still historically accurate or not ? Read More

animalogic , April 10, 2017 at 5:18 am GMT \n
100 Words @dninmore WWII B-52 slams into the Empire State in a fog. No collapse. The twin towers were BUILT to withstand TWO airplane collisions. No complete collapse of a steel superstructure has ever happened before or since 9/11. How stupid, or how connected to Zio-trash are you? Excuse me for being pedantic (b/c your point is good) but I think it was a B 25 Mitchel bomber that flew into the Empire State. B 52′s were at least a decade later. (Although there is some size difference btwn WW II bombers & modern jetliners: not sure whether any size difference is relevant tho). Read More
Redpill , April 10, 2017 at 6:43 am GMT \n
@Anonymouse Doesn't the mysterious collapse of Building 7 suggest no conspiracy. As the building was empty undergoing a rebuild, what would be the point of destroying it?

From the Zionists making Pearl Harbor happen to their race being the maleficient agent directing all of human history is not that much of a leap. In sober historical fact, Zionists in 1941 in Palestine under the English mandate were not remotely in a position of power. Had they the power, they might have saved their compatriots in Europe by orchestrating massive emigration, which in fact was not permitted by the sovereign nations that might have accepted them. Of course, you can always factor in that inconvenient fact into the conspiracy theory. No, the classic controlled demolition style of WTC7′s collapse suggests exactly the opposite. Only explosives canmake a building fall that way, and only insiders could have had the time and access necessary to rig the building. Don't be obtuse. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

utu , April 10, 2017 at 6:51 am GMT \n
100 Words @2stateshmoostate Excellent article.
I think there are only two way we might end control of the US government by the traitors who perpetrated 911.
One is to expose them at their most vulnerable point and that is 911. That attack doesn't hold up to reason. There's an endless of inconsistencies and contradictions that I won't go into here. How to get the attention of the American people? I don't know. I don't understand why the leaders adversarial states don't bring up the obvious fact that 911 was a false flag operation. This in order to DE-legitimize or create suspicion towards the US government. This is the kind of story I would think RT news would publish, and maybe they will if hostilities escalate between Russia and the US.
The other way we might get rid of these traitors is how Argentina got rid of the Generals; A massive military defeat that causes even the mindless lumps that are most of Americans to set up and take notice.
Ultimately these traitors will go, it's only a question of when and how much damage they do in the mean time.
Also I want to congratulate Mr. Dinh on his accurate prediction in a previous article that Trump was just another neocon puppet. I always agreed with that, because the scum that did 911 were not about to let anyone they don't control, get elected president of the US.

"I don't understand why the leaders adversarial states don't bring up the obvious fact that 911 was a false flag operation. "

Putin's FSB did false flag bombings of apartment buildings in Russia to start the 2nd war in Chechnya in 1999.

It is possible that the secret agencies that do such things exchange notes among themselves and can be even subcontracted. Read More

Greg Bacon , Website April 10, 2017 at 10:25 am GMT \n
200 Words I too am a retired career Fire Lieutenant/EMT that fought structure fires as a firefighter, acting Lieutenant, Lieutenant and twice, as Incident Commander, overseeing the entire op. I also have over 400 hours of college level firefighting credit from our State university's Fire School.

I've fought fires in a variety of buildings, including hi-rises and have seen building collapses, mostly due to the tremendous amount of water applied to the building, which increased the weight beyond the architects limits.
When buildings fall, they drop down in a random, haphazard manner, they don't explode and send a plume of heated smoke, gases and debris 500′ into the air and rumbling down NYC streets for blocks and blocks.

To those who still cling to the lies, tell me this: What kind of building 'collapse' makes nearly 1,000 WTC victims bodies explode into bits so small, they had to use DNA testing on bone fragments the size of a fingernail?
And what kind of building collapse causes generates enough force to lob a 20 ton steel beam over 350′ and still have enough force left over to have the beam impale itself in the Deutsche Bank building?

9/11 was an Israeli masterminded False Flag with help from traitors in the WH, the Pentagon, CIA, FBA and NSA. With generous help from the Lying MSM.

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it

Until we realize that, these endless 'Wars for Wall Street and Israel' will go on until the USA collapses from financial, physical and moral exhaustion. Read More Agree: Rurik

dninmore , April 10, 2017 at 12:01 pm GMT \n
100 Words @animalogic Excuse me for being pedantic (b/c your point is good) but I think it was a B 25 Mitchel bomber that flew into the Empire State. B 52's were at least a decade later. (Although there is some size difference btwn WW II bombers & modern jetliners: not sure whether any size difference is relevant tho). Thank you. Lol. Dyslexia. Yes, you are correct. B25 carried about 1,000 gallons of fuel, but could use an auxiliary tank to carry almost 1,500 gallons.

My point is that, regardless of the amount of fuel, we know most of it burns off in the initial explosion and the rest burns off in a few minutes.

The firefighters who arrived and witnessed the impact floors said they could knock down the fires with 2 or 3 lines – and they had lots of experience fighting fires in the towers.

To the idea that the fires were burning so hot to melt steel – a physical impossibility – why were so many people seen 40 minutes after, clinging to the structure at the windows? They should have been incinerated, but weren't. Read More

dninmore , April 10, 2017 at 12:12 pm GMT \n
@animalogic Just a question: my understanding is that many 100,000's Jew's were shot in Russia, Ukraine etc in 41-42' (einstazgruppen [sp ?]) Is this still historically accurate or not ? Russian side of things is not where my focus has been. I'm talking towards the 6million, extermination policy, gas chamber lies. It's a multi-billion dollar industry that needs to go away. The world doesn't need to be "educated" by Jews about suffering or man's inhumanity. Read More Agree: anarchyst
Agent76 , April 10, 2017 at 12:54 pm GMT \n
@Amanda Thanks for linking to James Corbett's video on 9/11--unfortunately, it should have many more views View my other post's on this topic especially the one Rudy Giuliani and be prepared to have your socks blown off. Read More
animalogic , April 10, 2017 at 1:07 pm GMT \n
@dninmore Russian side of things is not where my focus has been. I'm talking towards the 6million, extermination policy, gas chamber lies. It's a multi-billion dollar industry that needs to go away. The world doesn't need to be "educated" by Jews about suffering or man's inhumanity. I understand that. I am open minded. But, I have been lead to believe that the shooting of Jew's was a considerable % of the 6 MIL. Further, the "camps" we're a response to the expense & general messiness of mass shooting. Read More
dninmore , April 10, 2017 at 2:38 pm GMT \n
100 Words Nope. I won't go there. Any Jews shot in Russia have NOTHING to do with the 6 million lie I have been told all of my life. It has only been "6 million Jews gassed to death in Nazi death camps". It never was "most of them were shot in Russia". Well, until after the Ernst Zundel trial of 1985 in Toronto, which prompted Auschwitz to drop their "official" numbers down by 3 million – and yet, we still hear about 6 million. Then we begin to hear about shootings, mobile van gassings and mass grave pit burning, which is all absurd and mathematically impossible. Two questions for you: Where are the 6 million bodies that were gassed in Nazi camps?, and How did the Nazi's dispose of the bodies without putting themselves in grave jeopardy – due to the extremely toxic effects of Zyklon-B? Read More Agree: anarchyst Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
dninmore , April 10, 2017 at 2:44 pm GMT \n
@Sam J. Most of the people here already know the story but to make sure others understand. There is no way possible that building #7 could have fallen the way it did without some type of demolition. I will explain. On 9-11 Building #7 fell the same speed as a rock dropped beside it in free air for roughly 108 feet. This means the building had no resistance to falling except air. Impossible without explosives.

All materials fall the same speed in a gravity field disregarding air friction which I don't thing we need to worry about for a building falling. So the speed of our imaginary rock falling next to the building is just gravity related. The speed of the buildings falling, the exact same as the rock, is just gravity also. This means that there was NOTHING to slow the fall of the building. The density of the material under the imaginary rock falling was air. The building fell the same therefore the density of the material under the building was also air. We know this is not true. Building #7 was not hovering in the air. The lower portions of the building were demoed out from under it.

It's makes NO difference how big the fires were. The buildings density never reached the same value as air! The fires did not boil away the building structure where it was light as air! All the talk about damage, fires, this, that, all bullshit because the building fell with all four corners almost level the same speed as a rock in AIR. If a building falls as fast as a rock and the rock is falling through JUST AIR then the building is falling through JUST AIR also. Simple equivalence. 1=1, 2=2, big rock falling in air=small rock falling in air=building falling in air. One problem is people sometimes believe that a really heavy thing will fall faster than a lighter thing. Not true. Look at this video of the Apollo astronaut dropping a feather and a hammer on the Moon. They land at the same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C5_dOEyAfk

This is one of the best videos I've seen on the building #1 and #2. It's by a Mechanical Engineer. It's very interesting by itself even if you don't believe in any conspiracy, it's shows the towers, how they're designed and there's no hold your breath type speculation stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABuCO5ifeIE

The was a person in the building when some explosions happened. Barry Jennings a Emergency Management Worker who was in the building by accident and testified on tape the day it happened and later to a separate film crew. My guess is building 7 was supposed to come down at the same time the North tower fell and it's fall would covered by the dust plum or just in the general confusion but it didn't. Somebody screwed up. Building 7's fall is the single best piece of information on 9-11 being a false flag and they know it. There's no way possible to twist the fall of this building into any reality without there being some demo or whatever to destroy the bottom out from under it. I always thought UA Flight 93 was supposed to hit Bldg 7. No evidence, just a hunch. Read More

2stateshmoostate , April 10, 2017 at 2:50 pm GMT \n
100 Words @utu

"I don't understand why the leaders adversarial states don't bring up the obvious fact that 911 was a false flag operation. "
Putin's FSB did false flag bombings of apartment buildings in Russia to start the 2nd war in Chechnya in 1999.

It is possible that the secret agencies that do such things exchange notes among themselves and can be even subcontracted. I remember that and I came to the same conclusion. We're definitely in a pretty screwed up world.
I do remember Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran was the only government leader who had the guts to speak the truth about 911. I'm sure that's one of the reasons he was so hated by the Israeli controlled MSM Read More Agree: Amanda Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

Amanda , April 10, 2017 at 3:40 pm GMT \n
I think most on this thread have probably researched 9/11 a great deal, but in case some are new here, I'll post a couple of things I found especially helpful:

Missing Links documentary- explores the Zionist role in 9/11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qFa9_JjlYc

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments

Amanda , April 10, 2017 at 3:50 pm GMT \n
100 Words @Agent76 View my other post's on this topic especially the one Rudy Giuliani and be prepared to have your socks blown off. I'll be sure to do so. I've actually started delving back into 911 again, as I noticed that Corbett report has some videos up that I missed (especially one on the missing trillions, and one on missing gold). I think he also has some videos on individual 9/11 criminals, including Rudy Giuliani Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
Talha , April 10, 2017 at 4:15 pm GMT \n
@Greg Bacon I too am a retired career Fire Lieutenant/EMT that fought structure fires as a firefighter, acting Lieutenant, Lieutenant and twice, as Incident Commander, overseeing the entire op. I also have over 400 hours of college level firefighting credit from our State university's Fire School.

I've fought fires in a variety of buildings, including hi-rises and have seen building collapses, mostly due to the tremendous amount of water applied to the building, which increased the weight beyond the architects limits.
When buildings fall, they drop down in a random, haphazard manner, they don't explode and send a plume of heated smoke, gases and debris 500' into the air and rumbling down NYC streets for blocks and blocks.

To those who still cling to the lies, tell me this: What kind of building 'collapse' makes nearly 1,000 WTC victims bodies explode into bits so small, they had to use DNA testing on bone fragments the size of a fingernail?
And what kind of building collapse causes generates enough force to lob a 20 ton steel beam over 350' and still have enough force left over to have the beam impale itself in the Deutsche Bank building?

9/11 was an Israeli masterminded False Flag with help from traitors in the WH, the Pentagon, CIA, FBA and NSA. With generous help from the Lying MSM.

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it

Until we realize that, these endless 'Wars for Wall Street and Israel' will go on until the USA collapses from financial, physical and moral exhaustion. Hey GB,

Wow! Great post – I love it when commentators add some real value to the discussion based on their individual expertise or background. Much appreciated!

I had no clue about that beam nor the condition of the bodies.

Peace. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

Anonymouse , April 10, 2017 at 4:17 pm GMT \n
200 Words @dninmore This answer is simple. The Zionists were sending their "compatriots" - by force - to Palestine to populate their new illegitimate state - which is now a rogue, Apartheid one. The whole point of Zionism was to take over the world (their words, not mine), create a Jewish state in Palestine (not their first or second choice, btw), by butchering the native population - ethnic cleansing - to create the center for their NWO. They were even happy to blow up about 2,000 of their "compatriots" in a false flag on the ship Patria docked in port at Haifa to blame on the Brits - typical, yes? I'm sure you've heard of their policy to strip Jewish orphans from their European homes - at gun-point - to bring them to Palestine for the soon-to-be IDF model of violent indoctrination of their youth against Palestinians.

It's true Americans, and most of the world, wanted nothing to do with the parasitic Zionists. The fact that they were able to create both WWI and II, the UN, get their resolution passed and invade Palestine is a testament to how high they had infiltrated the US and GB governments. Of course, it helps when you have Chief SC Justice Brandeis and Franfurter, legislating from the court on behalf of the Zionists and all of the resources of the Rothchild gangsters.

Currently, 90% of the most powerful individuals in the US government, media and banks are Ashkenazy Jews - yet are only 2% of the US population and Ashkenazy are only 4% of that. Think about it.

As far as "extermination camps" go, the only ones I'm aware of (WWII) were created after the war by Eisenhower to finish what the Allies had begun. The only true "Holocaust" (destruction or slaughter on a mass scale, especially caused by fire or nuclear war), was caused by the Allies on the German people in the horrific, unstoppable bombardments of phosphorous all over that country. These facts are never shown in the media, history education or Hollywood. I wonder why that is? The jewish population throughout Europe before WW II was ~11 million according to the censuses of such countries as England, France, Germany, Scandinavia, Belgium, Netherlands, Italy, Soviet Union, etc conducted in those years. In 1948 the jewish population of Palestine was ~500,000 according to the census of the Brits who ruled that country. All of these figures may be confirmed without great research efforts.

On another related subject, the jews in Israel after the instauration of their polity in 1948 waxed mightily. The lowly jews and court jews of recent history were replaced by human beings with agency, still I would aver without possessing great geopolitical might. And have elicited world-wide envious hate. With their top-notch military + hundreds of nuclear weapons + 5 state-of-the art submarines, they are in a better position to withstand their enemies. The implacable hatred of the Moslems, so far impotent, is also a given. Stay tuned and gai gesunt! Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

Obscured American: Rudy Dent a 9-11 First Responder -[Because suing US for 9-11 is still the key to justice & liberty!] | The Paradise Post - REAL World News From Taiwan , April 10, 2017 at 4:30 pm GMT \n
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Carlton Meyer , Website April 10, 2017 at 5:30 pm GMT \n
300 Words Over the years, I've read debates and seen videos with hundreds of convincing reasons why the official 9-11 story is false. Most Americans are too lazy or spineless to read though any of these arguments. Here is the simplest one for simpletons.

The Pentagon is one of the most secure buildings in the USA, with dozens of security cameras covering every angle. There are also many private businesses nearby with security cameras, and tourists with camcorders and cameras. Crime is high in Washington DC so security cameras are common. If the Pentagon attack story is true, why can't the government provide a single clear videotape or picture of the American airliner approaching or hitting the Pentagon? They reluctantly released a couple of edited tapes of a fuzzy flash explosion and smoke, but no visual proof of an American Airlines airliner in flight.

Does anyone want to play devil's advocate and post a possible excuse for this?

Recall the four security cameras pointing at the 1995 OKC bombing stopped working shortly before the bombing and resumed after the explosion, according to the FBI, which refused to release them for years. For those who like video, the testimony of Secretary Mineta about 9-11 is disturbing yet little discussed. He was sitting with Cheney as a military officer provided updates on the airplane heading toward the Pentagon, and there was some "standing order" that had been made. Nevertheless, none of the Pentagon's air defense systems fired at the airliner and again, no one took pictures or videotaped the incoming aircraft! Did all the security cameras "stop working" too?

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dninmore , April 10, 2017 at 5:40 pm GMT \n
300 Words http://israelipalestinian.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000636#graph3

Yes, Jews population increased during WWII in Europe, N. America and the World. Where, exactly, does the "6 million" come from – other than the cabala?

They did have "great geopolitical might". Look what they were able to accomplish, albeit by deceit and terrorism.

The "envious hate" you refer to is laughable – there's no envy for what the Jews have done and continue to do.

"With their top-notch military + hundreds of nuclear weapons + 5 state-of-the art submarines, they are in a better position to withstand their enemies."

I'd love to see this "top-notch military" (who runs away from rock-throwing children or shoots them) take on a real enemy in a real ground war – not a terrorist action, or one where they just drop bombs. All of America's wars have been fought overseas. I'd like to see the Jews try that – just once.

The nuclear arsenal (technology/uranium, etc.) was stolen from the US and has never been inspected – but they bitch and moan about Iran and N. Korea. (Couldn't be that those two countries have refused the Rothschild banking "system", could it?)

"The implacable hatred of the Moslems, so far impotent, is also a given."

If it wasn't for the Jews, and what they have done in Palestine and the Middle East (now the world), there wouldn't be a problem. Jews, Christians and Muslims lived in relative peace for a century before that.

The Jews have no tolerance for any race beyond their self-proclaimed "master" race and any Jew who supports the illegitimate Apartheid rogue state, is more the problem than the Nutty-Yahoos. It is illegal to do business with any Apartheid state. This needs to be enforced, instead of running around the world passing legislation to make it a crime – along with any criticism of the hollow cost. Read More Agree: anarchyst

anarchyst , April 10, 2017 at 6:04 pm GMT \n
100 Words @dninmore http://israelipalestinian.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000636#graph3

Yes, Jews population increased during WWII in Europe, N. America and the World. Where, exactly, does the "6 million" come from - other than the cabala?

They did have "great geopolitical might". Look what they were able to accomplish, albeit by deceit and terrorism.

The "envious hate" you refer to is laughable - there's no envy for what the Jews have done and continue to do.

"With their top-notch military + hundreds of nuclear weapons + 5 state-of-the art submarines, they are in a better position to withstand their enemies."

I'd love to see this "top-notch military" (who runs away from rock-throwing children or shoots them) take on a real enemy in a real ground war - not a terrorist action, or one where they just drop bombs. All of America's wars have been fought overseas. I'd like to see the Jews try that - just once.

The nuclear arsenal (technology/uranium, etc.) was stolen from the US and has never been inspected - but they bitch and moan about Iran and N. Korea. (Couldn't be that those two countries have refused the Rothschild banking "system", could it?)

"The implacable hatred of the Moslems, so far impotent, is also a given."

If it wasn't for the Jews, and what they have done in Palestine and the Middle East (now the world), there wouldn't be a problem. Jews, Christians and Muslims lived in relative peace for a century before that.

The Jews have no tolerance for any race beyond their self-proclaimed "master" race and any Jew who supports the illegitimate Apartheid rogue state, is more the problem than the Nutty-Yahoos. It is illegal to do business with any Apartheid state. This needs to be enforced, instead of running around the world passing legislation to make it a crime - along with any criticism of the hollow cost. Israel has always refused inspection of its nuclear arsenal because it would not be able to account for all of them. You see, Israel's "Samson Option" requires it to have its nukes pre-positioned all around the world, ready for use. According to the Samson option, Israel promises to nuke a European or American city if it is "attacked". Since Israel has no "delivery system" (until recently) what better way to be "prepared" than to have them already in place? As Israel's spy system (Mossad) is second to none, it would be relatively easy to smuggle them into the various countries (with hasbara help).
THIS is the major reason why Israel refuses international inspection of its nukes Read More

dninmore , April 10, 2017 at 6:19 pm GMT \n
@anarchyst Israel has always refused inspection of its nuclear arsenal because it would not be able to account for all of them. You see, Israel's "Samson Option" requires it to have its nukes pre-positioned all around the world, ready for use. According to the Samson option, Israel promises to nuke a European or American city if it is "attacked". Since Israel has no "delivery system" (until recently) what better way to be "prepared" than to have them already in place? As Israel's spy system (Mossad) is second to none, it would be relatively easy to smuggle them into the various countries (with hasbara help).
THIS is the major reason why Israel refuses international inspection of its nukes... Thank you for that. That is news to me and I will research the topic. I must say, I never understood from day one why 9/11 was referred to as "ground zero" – unless it was truth flaunted out in the open. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
anarchyst , April 10, 2017 at 6:37 pm GMT \n
@Carlton Meyer Over the years, I've read debates and seen videos with hundreds of convincing reasons why the official 9-11 story is false. Most Americans are too lazy or spineless to read though any of these arguments. Here is the simplest one for simpletons.

The Pentagon is one of the most secure buildings in the USA, with dozens of security cameras covering every angle. There are also many private businesses nearby with security cameras, and tourists with camcorders and cameras. Crime is high in Washington DC so security cameras are common. If the Pentagon attack story is true, why can't the government provide a single clear videotape or picture of the American airliner approaching or hitting the Pentagon? They reluctantly released a couple of edited tapes of a fuzzy flash explosion and smoke, but no visual proof of an American Airlines airliner in flight.

Does anyone want to play devil's advocate and post a possible excuse for this?

Recall the four security cameras pointing at the 1995 OKC bombing stopped working shortly before the bombing and resumed after the explosion, according to the FBI, which refused to release them for years. For those who like video, the testimony of Secretary Mineta about 9-11 is disturbing yet little discussed. He was sitting with Cheney as a military officer provided updates on the airplane heading toward the Pentagon, and there was some "standing order" that had been made. Nevertheless, none of the Pentagon's air defense systems fired at the airliner and again, no one took pictures or videotaped the incoming aircraft! Did all the security cameras "stop working" too?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y Not only that, but the ATF and FBI agents were told to stay home that day there was an article in the Chicago Tribune on the Sunday following the blast that stated as such Read More

Si1ver1ock , April 10, 2017 at 6:47 pm GMT \n
When you see something obviously wrong and the media won't cover it, you start to wonder what else they are lying about.

Rudy Dent is a true hero.

I support a real forensic/criminal investigation of 911. Read More

Coddingtons Corner: Obscured American – Rudy Dent a 9-11 First Responder | R3publicans , April 10, 2017 at 7:36 pm GMT \n
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Bill Jones , April 10, 2017 at 11:32 pm GMT \n
@dninmore Typical response from a Hasbara. No supporting evidence to refute the facts, so you go to ad hominem. The bint on the BBC world service TV announcing the collapse of WTC7 twenty minutes before it happened is usually classified as a clue by the non-insane. Read More
dninmore , April 11, 2017 at 12:19 am GMT \n
100 Words @Bill Jones The bint on the BBC world service TV announcing the collapse of WTC7 twenty minutes before it happened is usually classified as a clue by the non-insane. Right. Thank you. Dan Rather's live comment that "it looks like one of those demolitions you see" never is mentioned, again, despite all of the witness testimony to "multiple explosions". Nothing to see here. Not one day spent in a court of law over the greatest crime on American soil. Read More
daniel le mouche , April 11, 2017 at 12:23 am GMT \n
300 Words @wayfarer I refer to disparate ideologies of the Caucasoid race, as divergent western religions (Islam, Christianity, and Judaism). These are the individual factions waging a "War on Terror" (WoT).

It is infighting within the Caucasoid race, caused by conflicting dogma that originates from "sacred texts" that are not too dissimilar from legacy software, which hasn't been updated for several thousand years.

IMO, the concept of an infinite intelligence/creative force within our universe, is so far beyond the antiquated teachings of the Torah, Bible, and Quran.

In this sense, I believe western civilization is spending its life living a lie, engulfed within ignorance. 'It is infighting within the Caucasoid race, caused by conflicting dogma that originates from "sacred texts" that are not too dissimilar from legacy software, which hasn't been updated for several thousand years.'

As I said above, the Caucasoid race isn't the world's great problem. You put Muslims in this Caucasoid race of yours. This would include Pakistanis, Indonesians, Filipinos, Malaysians, many African nations, and other scattered peoples from eastern Europe to Russia to China to the United States.
Let's move on to Christians. They would include the oldest sects of Copts in Egypt, as well as newcomers like Koreans, as well as large populations in North and South America.
As for legacy software, I don't know what that is.

But your comment reminds me of a video I watched recently with some very angry, hate-filled black American going on about the 'caucasoid ape man'. Check it out, if you didn't make it yourself.

'IMO, the concept of an infinite intelligence/creative force within our universe, is so far beyond the antiquated teachings of the Torah, Bible, and Quran.'

Agreed, and I don't subscribe to any of the above. Nor do I subscribe to much else, e.g. Buddhism, Shinto, Hinduism, African tribal religions, American Indian religions. There may be infinite wisdom and intelligence, there may not be. Some religions appear to be gentler and nicer and better than others–Jainism comes to mind. People are certainly wacky, certainly interesting too. The depths as well as strangeness of human religion is staggering. Catholicism alone probably takes the cake in both those categories.
As for living a lie, I'm not sure. People strive for the truth, at least a certain percentage do–and no where more than in the west, it seems to me. We're fed nothing but lies by our rulers, but again, this goes for all countries and peoples, at least in the modern world. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

daniel le mouche , April 11, 2017 at 12:31 am GMT \n
100 Words @Falsehood The FBI just released pictures from the Pentagon crash site showing pieces of aircraft. Unfortunately this threatens years of efforts online to get people to focus, discuss and be monitored as they obsess over an elaborate connivance. A smaller effort in the war on terror programming aimed at the American mind.

What do you think the purpose of spreading nonsense like "a rocket hit the Pentagon" really is? Another fake point of opposition to the "evil Goverment's story" right? The more effective Government designs the attacks, designs the conspiracy chatter, and creates it's own opposition. 'The more effective Government designs the attacks, designs the conspiracy chatter, and creates it's own opposition.'

Yes, and it does of course do that. It leaves no stone unturned. And yet

'What do you think the purpose of spreading nonsense like "a rocket hit the Pentagon" really is?'

You seems to be a bit too clever to believe the incredibly b.s. govt. story. Downright Chomskyesque. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

NoseytheDuke , April 11, 2017 at 12:33 am GMT \n
100 Words @2stateshmoostate Excellent article.
I think there are only two way we might end control of the US government by the traitors who perpetrated 911.
One is to expose them at their most vulnerable point and that is 911. That attack doesn't hold up to reason. There's an endless of inconsistencies and contradictions that I won't go into here. How to get the attention of the American people? I don't know. I don't understand why the leaders adversarial states don't bring up the obvious fact that 911 was a false flag operation. This in order to DE-legitimize or create suspicion towards the US government. This is the kind of story I would think RT news would publish, and maybe they will if hostilities escalate between Russia and the US.
The other way we might get rid of these traitors is how Argentina got rid of the Generals; A massive military defeat that causes even the mindless lumps that are most of Americans to set up and take notice.
Ultimately these traitors will go, it's only a question of when and how much damage they do in the mean time.
Also I want to congratulate Mr. Dinh on his accurate prediction in a previous article that Trump was just another neocon puppet. I always agreed with that, because the scum that did 911 were not about to let anyone they don't control, get elected president of the US. Back to basics, handbills and posters pasted at stations, train and bus windows, at busy intersections, college notice boards, shopping centres etc. Stencils with succinct slogans can be distributed via websites and blogs then sprayed on to sidewalks especially busy intersections. Hard-to-remove bumper stickers can be affixed to buses, taxis and commercial vehicles. It won't happen overnight but as the awareness grows so the tipping point becomes ever closer. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
dninmore , April 11, 2017 at 12:39 am GMT \n
@anarchyst Not only that, but the ATF and FBI agents were told to stay home that day...there was an article in the Chicago Tribune on the Sunday following the blast that stated as such... Don't forget about Odigo and who else didn't show up that day Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
NoseytheDuke , April 11, 2017 at 12:39 am GMT \n
@dninmore Thank you. Lol. Dyslexia. Yes, you are correct. B25 carried about 1,000 gallons of fuel, but could use an auxiliary tank to carry almost 1,500 gallons.

My point is that, regardless of the amount of fuel, we know most of it burns off in the initial explosion and the rest burns off in a few minutes.

The firefighters who arrived and witnessed the impact floors said they could knock down the fires with 2 or 3 lines - and they had lots of experience fighting fires in the towers.

To the idea that the fires were burning so hot to melt steel - a physical impossibility - why were so many people seen 40 minutes after, clinging to the structure at the windows? They should have been incinerated, but weren't. B25 burned petrol (gasoline) whilst the jets that struck the towers burned a far less flammable jet fuel (refined kerosine). Read More

daniel le mouche , April 11, 2017 at 12:39 am GMT \n
100 Words @Sam J. Most of the people here already know the story but to make sure others understand. There is no way possible that building #7 could have fallen the way it did without some type of demolition. I will explain. On 9-11 Building #7 fell the same speed as a rock dropped beside it in free air for roughly 108 feet. This means the building had no resistance to falling except air. Impossible without explosives.

All materials fall the same speed in a gravity field disregarding air friction which I don't thing we need to worry about for a building falling. So the speed of our imaginary rock falling next to the building is just gravity related. The speed of the buildings falling, the exact same as the rock, is just gravity also. This means that there was NOTHING to slow the fall of the building. The density of the material under the imaginary rock falling was air. The building fell the same therefore the density of the material under the building was also air. We know this is not true. Building #7 was not hovering in the air. The lower portions of the building were demoed out from under it.

It's makes NO difference how big the fires were. The buildings density never reached the same value as air! The fires did not boil away the building structure where it was light as air! All the talk about damage, fires, this, that, all bullshit because the building fell with all four corners almost level the same speed as a rock in AIR. If a building falls as fast as a rock and the rock is falling through JUST AIR then the building is falling through JUST AIR also. Simple equivalence. 1=1, 2=2, big rock falling in air=small rock falling in air=building falling in air. One problem is people sometimes believe that a really heavy thing will fall faster than a lighter thing. Not true. Look at this video of the Apollo astronaut dropping a feather and a hammer on the Moon. They land at the same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C5_dOEyAfk

This is one of the best videos I've seen on the building #1 and #2. It's by a Mechanical Engineer. It's very interesting by itself even if you don't believe in any conspiracy, it's shows the towers, how they're designed and there's no hold your breath type speculation stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABuCO5ifeIE

The was a person in the building when some explosions happened. Barry Jennings a Emergency Management Worker who was in the building by accident and testified on tape the day it happened and later to a separate film crew. My guess is building 7 was supposed to come down at the same time the North tower fell and it's fall would covered by the dust plum or just in the general confusion but it didn't. Somebody screwed up. Building 7's fall is the single best piece of information on 9-11 being a false flag and they know it. There's no way possible to twist the fall of this building into any reality without there being some demo or whatever to destroy the bottom out from under it. Yes, and the Twin Towers came down at freefall speed too–all I needed, having knowledge of this basic principle of physics, to say, 'That's impossible.' It was and is, of course.
But there's no piece in their idiotic puzzle that makes any more sense. Building 7, the Pentagon where no plane was to be seen, Shanksville's crater, and debris scattered for miles, etc. etc. etc. etc.
Still, all the moles and trolls keep the petal to the metal, repeat, repeat–'Konspearissy Kkoooockss, HaHaHaHaHA'. Read More Agree: Amanda

daniel le mouche , April 11, 2017 at 12:59 am GMT \n
Also Wayfarer,
'infighting within the Caucasoid race, caused by conflicting dogma that originates from "sacred texts".
This is a load of crap. There is only deep cynicism in the rarified air and dizzying heights of Master. George Bush is a devout born again–crap. Tony Blair has converted to Catholicism–crap. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
Bill Jones , April 11, 2017 at 1:14 am GMT \n
@dninmore Right. Thank you. Dan Rather's live comment that "it looks like one of those demolitions you see" never is mentioned, again, despite all of the witness testimony to "multiple explosions". Nothing to see here. Not one day spent in a court of law over the greatest crime on American soil. The greatest crime on American soil was Truman's approval of the State of Israel. Read More
utu , April 11, 2017 at 1:35 am GMT \n
@Bill Jones The greatest crime on American soil was Truman's approval of the State of Israel. First Truman was getting hints that he might be assassinated

Israel's Stern Gang Mailed Letter Bomb to White House, President Truman
https://www.richardsilverstein.com/2016/10/11/israels-stern-gang-mailed-letter-bomb-white-house-president-truman/

and then Truman accepted a suitcase with $2 million during presidential campaign (per Gore Vidal)
https://unvis.it/realjewnews.com/?p=217

The well tried Plomo o Plata offer you can't refuse. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

dninmore , April 11, 2017 at 1:38 am GMT \n
@NoseytheDuke B25 burned petrol (gasoline) whilst the jets that struck the towers burned a far less flammable jet fuel (refined kerosine). I was unaware. Thank you for that. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
dninmore , April 11, 2017 at 1:41 am GMT \n
@Bill Jones The greatest crime on American soil was Truman's approval of the State of Israel. Noted, but that doesn't override the law, which is that the resolution was made and voted on in the General Assembly. It needed to be ratified or adopted by the Security Council. It never was, hence its illegitimacy. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
Bill Jones , April 11, 2017 at 2:06 am GMT \n
500 Words @Amanda Thanks for linking to James Corbett's video on 9/11--unfortunately, it should have many more views The Official Version of 9/11 goes something like this

Directed by a beardy-guy from a cave in Afghanistan, ( This well appointed Suite http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/nether_fictoid3.htm according to the London Times): nineteen hard-drinking, coke-snorting, devout Muslims enjoy lap dances before their mission to meet Allah

Using nothing more than craft knifes, they overpower cabin crew, passengers and pilots on four planes

And hangover or not, they manage to give the world's most sophisticated air defense system the slip

Unfazed by leaving their "How to Fly a Passenger Jet" guide in the car at the airport, they master the controls in no-time and score direct hits on two towers, causing THREE to collapse completely

Our masterminds even manage to overpower the odd law of physics or two and the world watches in awe as steel-framed buildings fall symmetrically – through their own mass – at free-fall speed, for the first time in history.

Despite all their dastardly cunning, they stupidly give their identity away by using explosion-proof passports, which survive the fireball undamaged and fall to the ground only to be discovered by the incredible crime-fighting sleuths at the FBI

Meanwhile down in Washington

Hani Hanjour, having previously flunked 2-man Cessna flying school, gets carried away with all the success of the day and suddenly finds incredible abilities behind the controls of a Boeing

Instead of flying straight down into the large roof area of the Pentagon, he decides to show off a little

Executing an incredible 270 degree downward spiral, he levels off to hit the low facade of the world's most heavily defended building

all without a single shot being fired . or ruining the nicely mowed lawn and all at a speed just too fast to capture on video

Later, in the skies above Pennsylvania

So desperate to talk to loved ones before their death, some passengers use sheer willpower to connect mobile calls that otherwise would not be possible until several years later

And following a heroic attempt by some to retake control of Flight 93, it crashes into a Shankesville field leaving no trace of engines, fuselage or occupants except for the standard issue Muslim terrorists bandana

Further south in Florida

President Bush, our brave Commander-in-Chief continues to read "My Pet Goat" to a class full of primary school children shrugging off the obvious possibility that his life could be in imminent danger

In New York

World Trade Center leaseholder Larry Silverstein blesses his own foresight in insuring the buildings against terrorist attack only six weeks previously

While back in Washington, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz shake their heads in disbelief at their own luck in getting the 'New Pearl Harbor' catalyzing event they so desired to pursue their agenda of world domination

And finally, not to be disturbed too much by reports of their own deaths, at least seven of our nineteen suicide hijackers turn up alive and kicking in mainstream media reports

And If you don't believe this, you are a conspiracy theorist. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

Paul C. , April 11, 2017 at 3:32 am GMT \n
100 Words @Si1ver1ock When you see something obviously wrong and the media won't cover it, you start to wonder what else they are lying about.

Rudy Dent is a true hero.

I support a real forensic/criminal investigation of 911. Well said. Unfortunately a real investigation will never occur. As you alluded to, the media is controlled. Controlled by the same cabal that's printing monopoly money and running our finance system, foreign affairs and government. The same evil chemtrailing our skies everyday, pushing vaccines and re-writing history.

Rudy Dent gets it and is a hero for speaking out. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

Rob Green , April 11, 2017 at 9:57 am GMT \n
Rudy Dent is a disgraced FDNY ex-fireman who is shunned and hated by his former colleagues for desecrating the memory of those fallen on 9/11. He should rot in hell for the fabrications he is spewing about the deaths of his former brothers. Read More
daniel le mouche , April 11, 2017 at 11:13 am GMT \n
@daniel le mouche Haven't read the article yet, but love the woman's sign in the picture--'Our oppression is NOT up for debate'.
And boy does she look oppressed, along with her co-religionists/racists on the top of every profession that manipulates everyone else--hollywood, network tv, radio, newspapers, magazines, the music industry, universities, government, banks.
Nice try, prick. (Not that a single Unz reader was fooled.) my comment 42 was in response to 'sherm's' link to a daily beast 'article' titled 'jew-hater christopher bollyn etc.' which i'm sure conclusively debunks rudy dent just as 'sherm' says. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
daniel le mouche , April 11, 2017 at 11:43 am GMT \n
100 Words @Amanda Article mentioned Rothschilds instigating, orchestrating, and profiting from WW2 and I also wanted to add what loyal American Jew, Benjamin Freedman had to say about WW1 and WW2 (he ought to know b/c he was the right hand man of Bernard Baruch, Rothschild front-man, basically the Soros of yesterday.

Benjamin Freedman's 1961 Speech at the Willard Hotel (Complete)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhFRGDyX48c

Benjamin H. Freedman's excellent speech on how World War One (and Two) really started and why the U.S. was eventually drawn in. I am only 7 minutes into the video link you provide to Benjamin Freedman's WWI speech, but it has already turned anything I might have thought I knew about that war (admittedly very little) on its head. Thank you for just beginning to shine some light on the (likely) truth! It is just the tip of the iceberg, but people are starting to put the pieces together to who's behind our horrific modern dystopia. A century of most costly slumber by European and American masses. One's rage wells up
(What heartbreaking old footage of maimed soldiers, and to think of all the carnage ever since, ever ongoing.) Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

Timur The Lame , April 11, 2017 at 12:09 pm GMT \n
400 Words @ Bill Jones,

Good summary. Added to which was the air defense stand down ( subsequently revealed to be anti- terror exercises) which was the situation that immediatley set bells off for me before all the other facts came in. I had an amateur interest in military aircraft and defense procedures and thought wtf?

While most people, myself included, were in a state of shock during the first day, they already were filling the airwaves with stories about how the terrorists "turned the transponders off" and therefore the huge passenger jets were supposedly invisible.

Think about this for a second. This technologically irrelevant lie was already in the news feed and worked its magic with the hoi polloi. I went to get a haircut that day in a sleepy town and of course there was only one topic discussed while the TV was on in the waiting area. One soccer mom responded to my more skeptical commentary on how the attack could be possible by putting her hands on her hips, school marm' like and yelling "they turned off the transopnders [stupid implied]!" I responded by asking would Chinese or Russian bombers have transponders beeping away in some sort of a fair play gesture when attacking? In other words would the multi-trillion dollar east coast defense structure not have thought of this? Daggers.

Most importantly when discussing 911 now with a Koolaider, bringing up WTC7, which used to be a knockout punch is not as effective because the odd one who prefers the Popular Mechanics dialogue will come back with the debris and diesel crap. The most effective knockout punch now I find is bringing up the immediate anthrax mailings. Most will have either forgotten about it or not known of it in the first place. Play with it. Ask how in the world the Disco Dervishes got their hands on military grade anthrax that was traced back to a US laboratory etc

None are so blind as they who WILL not see and that unfortunately is always the vast majority who cannot allow for their mental structure and the world as they understand it to be blasted into fragments. JFK and 911 will be but two major contemporary events that will not be solved in our lifetimes.

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dninmore , April 11, 2017 at 12:57 pm GMT \n
@Rob Green Rudy Dent is a disgraced FDNY ex-fireman who is shunned and hated by his former colleagues for desecrating the memory of those fallen on 9/11. He should rot in hell for the fabrications he is spewing about the deaths of his former brothers. I think Rudy's a wonderful human being and enjoyed getting to meet and talk with him in Detroit. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
anarchyst , April 11, 2017 at 2:03 pm GMT \n
200 Words @animalogic I understand that. I am open minded. But, I have been lead to believe that the shooting of Jew's was a considerable % of the 6 MIL. Further, the "camps" we're a response to the expense & general messiness of mass shooting. Let's see the "camps" had libraries, theaters, medical facilities, dining, and other facilities for the "comforts" of the occupants. Doctors, dentists were also available to see to the inmates' medical needs. In fact, many times specialists were brought in for unusual, difficult medical cases. There were also strict rules for the guards that severely punished any misbehavior against the inmates.
If these camps were "killing facilities", why all the amenities?
In addition, the logistics of transferring people from camp to camp had to be enormous.
Germany did not have the fuel to waste on transferring inmates from facility to facility, the idea that the "camps" were "killing facilities" is preposterous. What holocaust ™ promoters never show is the interviews of the (honest) camp occupants who report that there were no "gas chambers" and that they were treated well. These interviews, although available, are never shown. Why?
The truth is, most people survived the camps, and went on to live the rest of their long lives without incident. It is only in the 1960s where "the powers that be" CREATED the holocaust ™ as a "cash cow" that "keeps on giving" to this very day. Read More
republic , April 11, 2017 at 6:08 pm GMT \n
11,600 Words @Amanda Article mentioned Rothschilds instigating, orchestrating, and profiting from WW2 and I also wanted to add what loyal American Jew, Benjamin Freedman had to say about WW1 and WW2 (he ought to know b/c he was the right hand man of Bernard Baruch, Rothschild front-man, basically the Soros of yesterday.

Benjamin Freedman's 1961 Speech at the Willard Hotel (Complete)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhFRGDyX48c

Benjamin H. Freedman's excellent speech on how World War One (and Two) really started and why the U.S. was eventually drawn in. A Jewish Defector Warns America:

Benjamin Freedman Speaks on Zionism

This should do it! For the second and last time we are updating the transcript of Ben Freedman's 1961 speech at the Willard Hotel.

The piece has been posted for over a year now. A few months ago, a person challenged the authenticity of the transcript, because his version stated that Samuel Untermeyer had used the Columbia Broadcasting studios when he declared a worldwide boycott against Germany - in his words: 'A Holy War'. We could not debate the issue, having never heard the actual recording of Mr. Freedman's speech. Today, I discovered that we have a cassette tape of the speech, so I listened to the entire tape while reading the posted transcript. According to Mr. Freedman the radio station used by Untermeyer was, in fact, ABC.

There had also been some simple rearrangements of sentence structure in that transcript, and a line or two omitted in places. For the sake of authenticity, the corrections have been made. The transcript is now word for word from Mr. Freedman's speech.

The original transcriber had 'tidied up' Mr. Freedman's responses during the Q&A period, omitting superfluous and repetitious words. For the most part, we've left the tidied up version as it was, since it didn't change the response, and actually helped to clarify Mr. Freedman's answers. If the names were changed, he could have been making that speech yesterday. - Jackie - April 8, 2003

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Here is our first update notice, about a year ago:

The original posting of this speech was taken from an existing web site. In going through our files we recently discovered a full transcript of the speech and realized the original posting was not complete. Here is the transcript from our files, with additional text at the beginning – some within the body of the speech – and a question and answer section at the end that had not been included in the original posting. There will be further postings from other writers and quotes that will confirm much of what Mr. Freedman said here. Many of you will see the truth of it, as it stands. - Jackie –

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The Truth will stand on its own merit

A Jewish Defector Warns America:

Benjamin Freedman Speaks

by Benjamin H. Freedman

Introductory Note - Benjamin H. Freedman was one of the most intriguing and amazing individuals of the 20th century.

Mr. Freedman, born in 1890, was a successful Jewish businessman of New York City who was at one time the principal owner of the Woodbury Soap Company. He broke with organized Jewry after the Judeo-Communist victory of 1945, and spent the remainder of his life and the great preponderance of his considerable fortune, at least 2.5 million dollars, exposing the Jewish tyranny which has enveloped the United States.

Mr. Freedman knew what he was talking about because he had been an insider at the highest levels of Jewish organizations and Jewish machinations to gain power over our nation. Mr. Freedman was personally acquainted with Bernard Baruch, Samuel Untermyer, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Joseph Kennedy, and John F. Kennedy, and many more movers and shakers of our times.

This speech was given before a patriotic audience in 1961 at the Willard Hotel in Washington, D.C., on behalf of Conde McGinley's patriotic newspaper of that time, Common Sense. Though in some minor ways this wide-ranging and extemporaneous speech has become dated, Mr. Freedman's essential message to us - his warning to the West - is more urgent than ever before. - K.A.S. -

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A CHRISTIAN VIEW OF THE HOLOCAUST

Ladies and gentlemen, you are about to hear a very frightening speech. This speech is an explanation of the plans now being laid to throw the United States into a third world war. It was made a short time ago before a large group in the Congressional `Room of the Willard Hotel in Washington, D.C. Both the speech and the question and answer period later so electrified the audience that a group of patriots has transferred it to two long-playing records which you may buy to play for friends, clubs, and your church group in your community. The speaker is Mr. Benjamin Freedman, noted authority on Zionism and all of its schemes. Mr. Freedman is a former Jew, and I mean a FORMER Jew. He has fought the Communist world conspiracy tooth and nail, and stands today as a leading American patriot. We now take you to the speaker's platform to present Benjamin Freedman.

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[Freedman's speech]

What I intend to tell you tonight is something that you have never been able to learn from any other source, and what I tell you now concerns not only you, but your children and the survival of this country and Christianity. I'm not here just to dish up a few facts to send up your blood pressure, but I'm here to tell you things that will help you preserve what you consider the most sacred things in the world: the liberty, and the freedom, and the right to live as Christians, where you have a little dignity, and a little right to pursue the things that your conscience tells you are the right things, as Christians.

Now, first of all, I'd like to tell you that on August 25th 1960 - that was shortly before elections - Senator Kennedy, who is now the President of the United States, went to New York, and delivered an address to the Zionist Organization of America. In that address, to reduce it to its briefest form, he stated that he would use the armed forces of the United States to preserve the existence of the regime set up in Palestine by the Zionists who are now in occupation of that area.

In other words, Christian boys are going to be yanked out of their homes, away from their families, and sent abroad to fight in Palestine against the Christian and Moslem Arabs who merely want to return to their homes. And these Christian boys are going to be asked to shoot to kill these innocent [Arab Palestinians] people who only want to follow out fifteen resolutions passed by the United Nations in the last twelve years calling upon the Zionists to allow these people to return to their homes.

Now, when United States troops appear in the Middle East to fight with the Zionists as their allies to prevent the return of these people who were evicted from their homes in the 1948 armed insurrection by the Zionists who were transplanted there from Eastern Europe when that happens, the United States will trigger World War III.

You say, when will that take place? The answer is, as soon as the difficulty between France and Algeria has been settled, that will take place. As soon as France and Algeria have been settled, that will take place. As soon as France and Algeria have settled their difficulty, and the Arab world, or the Moslem world, has no more war on their hands with France, they are going to move these people back into their homes, and when they do that and President kennedy sends your sons to fight over there to help the crooks hold on to what they stole from innocent men, women and children, we will trigger World War III; and when that starts you can be sure we cannot emerge from that war a victor. We are going to lose that war because there is not one nation in the world that will let one of their sons fight with us for such a cause.

I know and speak to these ambassadors in Washington and the United Nations - and of the ninety-nine nations there, I've consulted with maybe seventy of them - and when we go to war in Palestine to help the thieves retain possession of what they have stolen from these innocent people we're not going to have a man there to fight with us as our ally.

And who will these people have supporting them, you ask. Well, four days after President Kennedy - or he was then Senator Kennedy - made that statement on August 28, 1960, the Arab nations called a meeting in Lebanon and there they decided to resurrect, or reactivate, the government of Palestine, which has been dormant more or less, since the 1948 armed insurrection by the Zionists.

Not only that they ordered the creation of the Palestine Army, and they are now drilling maybe a half a million soldiers in that area of the world to lead these people back to their homeland. With them, they have as their allies all the nations of what is termed the Bandung Conference Group. That includes the Soviet Union and every Soviet Union satellite. It includes Red China; it includes every independent country in Asia and Africa; or eighty percent of the world's total population. Eighty percent of the world's population. Four out of five human beings on the face of the earth will be our enemies at war with us. And not alone are they four out of five human beings now on the face of this earth, but they are the non-Christian population of the world and they are the non-Caucasians the non-white nations of the world, and that's what we face.

And what is the reason? The reason is that here in the United States, the Zionists and their co-religionists have complete control of our government. For many reasons too many and too complex to go into here at this - time I'll be glad to answer questions, however, to support that statement - the Zionists and their co-religionists rule this United States as though they were the absolute monarchs of this country.

Now, you say, 'well, that's a very broad statement to make', but let me show what happened while you were - I don't want to wear that out - let me show what happened while WE were all asleep. I'm including myself with you. We were all asleep. What happened?

World War I broke out in the summer of 1914. Nineteen-hundred and fourteen was the year in which World War One broke out. There are few people here my age who remember that. Now that war was waged on one side by Great Britain, France, and Russia; and on the other side by Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey. What happened?

Within two years Germany had won that war: not alone won it nominally, but won it actually. The German submarines, which were a surprise to the world, had swept all the convoys from the Atlantic Ocean, and Great Britain stood there without ammunition for her soldiers, stood there with one week's food supply facing her - and after that, starvation.

At that time, the French army had mutinied. They lost 600,000 of the flower of French youth in the defense of Verdun on the Somme. The Russian army was defecting. They were picking up their toys and going home, they didn't want to play war anymore, they didn't like the Czar. And the Italian army had collapsed.

Now Germany - not a shot had been fired on the German soil. Not an enemy soldier had crossed the border into Germany. And yet, here was Germany offering England peace terms. They offered England a negotiated peace on what the lawyers call a status quo ante basis. That means: "Let's call the war off, and let everything be as it was before the war started."

Well, England, in the summer of 1916 was considering that. Seriously! They had no choice. It was either accepting this negotiated peace that Germany was magnanimously offering them, or going on with the war and being totally defeated.

While that was going on, the Zionists in Germany, who represented the Zionists from Eastern Europe, went to the British War Cabinet and - I am going to be brief because this is a long story, but I have all the documents to prove any statement that I make if anyone here is curious, or doesn't believe what I'm saying is at all possible - the Zionists in London went to the British war cabinet and they said: "Look here. You can yet win this war. You don't have to give up. You don't have to accept the negotiated peace offered to you now by Germany. You can win this war if the United States will come in as your ally."

The United States was not in the war at that time. We were fresh; we were young; we were rich; we were powerful. They [Zionists] told England: "We will guarantee to bring the United States into the war as your ally, to fight with you on your side, if you will promise us Palestine after you win the war."

In other words, they made this deal: "We will get the United States into this war as your ally. The price you must pay us is Palestine after you have won the war and defeated Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey."

Now England had as much right to promise Palestine to anybody, as the United States would have to promise Japan to Ireland for any reason whatsoever. It's absolutely absurd that Great Britain - that never had any connection or any interest or any right in what is known as Palestine - should offer it as coin of the realm to pay the Zionists for bringing the United States into the war.

However, they made that promise, in October of 1916. October, nineteen hundred and sixteen. And shortly after that - I don't know how many here remember it - the United States, which was almost totally pro-German - totally pro-German - because the newspapers here were controlled by Jews, the bankers were Jews, all the media of mass communications in this country were controlled by Jews, and they were pro-German because their people, in the majority of cases came from Germany, and they wanted to see Germany lick the Czar.

The Jews didn't like the Czar, and they didn't want Russia to win this war. So the German bankers - the German-Jews - Kuhn Loeb and the other big banking firms in the United States refused to finance France or England to the extent of one dollar. They stood aside and they said: "As long as France and England are tied up with Russia, not one cent!" But they poured money into Germany, they fought with Germany against Russia, trying to lick the Czarist regime.

Now those same Jews, when they saw the possibility of getting Palestine, they went to England and they made this deal. At that time, everything changed, like the traffic light that changes from red to green. Where the newspapers had been all pro-German, where they'd been telling the people of the difficulties that Germany was having fighting Great Britain commercially and in other respects, all of a sudden the Germans were no good. They were villains. They were Huns. They were shooting Red Cross nurses. They were cutting off babies' hands. And they were no good.

Well, shortly after that, Mr. Wilson declared war on Germany.

The Zionists in London sent these cables to the United States, to Justice Brandeis: "Go to work on President Wilson. We're getting from England what we want. Now you go to work, and you go to work on President Wilson and get the United States into the war." And that did happen. That's how the United States got into the war. We had no more interest in it; we had no more right to be in it than we have to be on the moon tonight instead of in this room.

Now the war - World War One - in which the United States participated had absolutely no reason to be our war. We went in there - we were railroaded into it - if I can be vulgar, we were suckered into - that war merely so that the Zionists of the world could obtain Palestine. Now, that is something that the people in the United States have never been told. They never knew why we went into World War One. Now, what happened?

After we got into the war, the Zionists went to Great Britain and they said: "Well, we performed our part of the agreement. Let's have something in writing that shows that you are going to keep your bargain and give us Palestine after you win the war." Because they didn't know whether the war would last another year or another ten years. So they started to work out a receipt. The receipt took the form of a letter, and it was worded in very cryptic language so that the world at large wouldn't know what it was all about. And that was called the Balfour Declaration.

The Balfour Declaration was merely Great Britain's promise to pay the Zionists what they had agreed upon as a consideration for getting the United States into the war. So this great Balfour Declaration, that you hear so much about, is just as phony as a three dollar bill. And I don't think I could make it more emphatic than that.

Now, that is where all the trouble started. The United States went in the war. The United States crushed Germany. We went in there, and it's history. You know what happened. Now, when the war was ended, and the Germans went to Paris, to the Paris Peace Conference in 1919, there were 117 Jews there, as a delegation representing the Jews, headed by Bernard Baruch. I was there: I ought to know. Now what happened?

The Jews at that peace conference, when they were cutting up Germany and parceling out Europe to all these nations that claimed a right to a certain part of European territory, the Jews said, "How about Palestine for us?" And they produced, for the first time to the knowledge of the Germans, this Balfour Declaration. So the Germans, for the first time realized, "Oh, that was the game! That's why the United States came into the war." And the Germans for the first time realized that they were defeated, they suffered this terrific reparation that was slapped onto them, because the Zionists wanted Palestine and they were determined to get it at any cost.

Now, that brings us to another very interesting point. When the Germans realized this, they naturally resented it. Up to that time, the Jews had never been better off in any country in the world than they had been in Germany.

You had Mr. Rathenau there, who was maybe 100 times as important in industry and finance as is Bernard Baruch in this country. You had Mr. Balin, who owned the two big steamship lines, the North German Lloyd's and the Hamburg-American Lines. You had Mr. Bleichroder, who was the banker for the Hohenzollern family. You had the Warburgs in Hamburg, who were the big merchant bankers - the biggest in the world. The Jews were doing very well in Germany. No question about that. Now, the Germans felt: "Well, that was quite a sellout."

It was a sellout that I can best compare - suppose the United States was at war today with the Soviet Union. And we were winning. And we told the Soviet Union: "Well, let's quit. We offer you peace terms. Let's forget the whole thing." And all of a sudden Red China came into the war as an ally of the Soviet Union. And throwing them into the war brought about our defeat. A crushing defeat, with reparations the likes of which man's imagination cannot encompass.

Imagine, then, after that defeat, if we found out that it was the Chinese in this country, our Chinese citizens, who all the time we thought they were loyal citizens working with us, were selling us out to the Soviet Union and that it was through them that Red China was brought into the war against us. How would we feel, in the United States against Chinese? I don't think that one of them would dare show his face on any street. There wouldn't be lampposts enough, convenient, to take care of them. Imagine how we would feel.

Well, that's how the Germans felt towards these Jews. "We've been so nice to them"; and from 1905 on, when the first Communist revolution in Russia failed, and the Jews had to scramble out of Russia, they all went to Germany. And Germany gave them refuge. And they were treated very nicely. And here they sold Germany down the river for no reason at all other than they wanted Palestine as a so-called "Jewish commonwealth."

Now, Nahum Sokolow - all the great leaders, the big names that you read about in connection with Zionism today - they, in 1919, 1920, '21, '22, and '23, they wrote in all their papers - and the press was filled with their statements - that "the feeling against the Jews in Germany is due to the fact that they realized that this great defeat was brought about by our intercession and bringing the United States into the war against them."

The Jews themselves admitted that. It wasn't that the Germans in 1919 discovered that a glass of Jewish blood tasted better than Coca-Cola or Muenschner Beer. There was no religious feeling. There was no sentiment against those people merely on account of their religious belief. It was all political. It was economic. It was anything but religious.

Nobody cared in Germany whether a Jew went home and pulled down the shades and said "Shema' Yisrael" or "Our Father." No one cared in Germany any more than they do in the United States. Now this feeling that developed later in Germany was due to one thing: that the Germans held the Jews responsible for their crushing defeat, for no reason at all, because World War One was started against Germany for no reason for which they [Germans] were responsible. They were guilty of nothing. Only of being successful. They built up a big navy. They built up world trade.

You must remember, Germany, at the time of Napoleon, at the time of the French Revolution, what was the German Reich consisted of 300 - three hundred! - small city-states, principalities, dukedoms, and so forth. Three hundred little separate political entities. And