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It looks like healthy people younger then 60 have little to fear but fear itself. But fear is addictive and it looks like panic, including panic buying had spread in the USA, fueled by irresponsible and often evil MSM fearmongering. 

Fauchi and firnds compatly failed us: he was unable or unwilling to provide relevant infomation about the virus. Also highly qurstionble was his role in gain of function experiments, which put him is a very dangerous position of biolagical war criminal.  Please not that infomation about so called "vaping epidemic" was suppressed and genome of the pathogen that couse it, if such exists,  was never sequenced.

CDC attributed it to E-cigatettes, but there were cases when a single time users got the disease. X-ray picture is suspiciously common with COVID-19.[ CDC ] Chinese did some research and published X-ray pictures of waping patients were attributed to COVID-19 my the supercomputer running a spcial program of images recognition and classification.  That does not prove anything, but it increases the plausibility of the hypothesis that waping epidemic in the USA in August 2019 has some relations to COVID the epidemic of 2020 and might be its precursor, with early, less contagious,  mutation of the same virus.

Statistic reported about COVID-19 was distorted by MSM to induce fearmongering and increase profits (MSM provide positive feedback loop in such cases and their role probably is negative not positive as they provoke overreaction). The only reliable statistics about COVID-19 epidemics are so called "excessive deaths" statistics and it shows that 2020 is not that different from 2019. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

ther are higher not not dramatically so and it is unclear how many of excessive death occurred because of panic with people dying at home from heart attacks and similar mass killers of older people. Isolation definitely increases the mortality among old people and may be not less then COVID-19 itself.   Total number for the year probably will be less then 10% above the average. Here’s how many extra deaths over normal numbers have occurred during coronavirus pandemic, according to a statistician - oregonlive.com

The coronavirus killed tens of thousands in the United States during the pandemic’s first months, but it also left a lesser-known toll: thousands more deaths than would have been expected from heart disease and a handful of other medical conditions, according to an analysis of federal data by The Washington Post.

Fr example, reporting deaths from the virus neoliberal MSM do not split it by age groups as this would decrease the level of fear in the population ( and their profits ). Also reporting just the number of death from the virus, not the deviation form the average number of deaths for a week or a month or so artificially increases panic.

Reporting  deaths from the virus neoliberal MSM do not split  it by age groups as this would decrease the level of fear in the population ( and their profits ).   Also reporting just the number of death from the virus, not the deviation form the average number of deaths for a week or a month or so artificially increases panic.

Panic and fear artificially incited by neoliberal MSM and cowardice to face the risks immanent in any epidemics (as well as driving the  car) is doing more damage than the disease itself.  They provoked the wave of panic hoarding in the USA which started in February with  isopropyl alcohol and hand sanitizer (which in early March reached $60 fro 8 ounces bottle on Amazon ;-)  but spread starting from March 10 to many other products categories including paper towels, bathroom tissue, all types of sanitizers and non perishable food.

Sometime media coverage looks like a complete 100% departure from reality.  More people will die in Yemen and Syria each day going forward, and no one cares. Many old people will serious chronic condition who are die from coronavirus induced pneumonia would die from flu induced bakterial pneumonia the same year as they are too weak to resist even flu.  Winter is a very bad season for such people in any case.

Of course, another extreme is fatalism as expressed by Paul Bogdanich in his post at moonofalabama.org (Mar 11 2020 )

I should have clarified, I'm an American living in the United States. That said, it bothers me. The absolute lack of any detectable level of courage or fortitude in the face of diversity (hard times) is just stunning. Old people die. Everyone dies over time. Viruses like the flu or SARS, or COVID-19 accelerate that process from time to time. It's just what viruses do. There is no cure for either death or viruses. If you want, the biblical "Ye shall surely die."

Even in advanced age life has meaning and is exciting when you're solving concrete problems heling your family or community, or humanity as a whole. Many outstanding achievements were made people over 70 year old (Verdi wrote Otello at 74  and Falstaff (1893) being 80) People over 70 now dominate presidential race in the USA ;-) And unlike fatalists thinking, we do not need to apply to our life the moral metrics which are appropriate only to communities who live on a verge of survival. Loosing some part of annual national income to save lives via quarantine is affordable. Mass testing is a sure way to improve cost efficiency of quarantines and similar measures during virus epidemics. Retired people can and should stay home and avoid situation where they can catch the infection. Reckless behaviour during  virus epidemics is a crime and need to be punished appropriately.

But it is true that the panic can do more damage than the virus itself. And that we need an objective perspective to access the level of threat inherent in this virus epidemics. In the USA a reasonable threshold for classifying the treat as serious  are probably events that exceed car fatalities. In 2016  National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) registered 37,461 killed, an average of 102 per day.

In the USA a reasonable threshold for classifying the treat as serious  are probably events that exceed car fatalities. Which means around 40K people killed per year with the average over 100 per day. The society accepts this level of fatalities as normal, so why this virus epidemics should be treated differently ? Nobody stops driving cars because of this level of risk.

We are still in single digits of victims per day with COVID-19. It did proved high infectious. But there is highly infectious and highly deadly pathogens are two distinct group that do not mix. It is as if viruses  need to make choice between high mortality and high transmission: viruses that kill their host, before the host infects others,  die with the host and this can't kill many hosts without eliminating themselves as well.

With this coronavirus, there seems to be a larger then usual window (aka incubation period) during which a person can be infected and transmitting the virus, without having symptoms. In a way this is a rather "clever" virus. But long incubation period does not eliminates biological reason why highly infectious viruses should evolve to become less deadly in order to succeed.

While the US government of Mar 13 declared  the coronavirus a US national emergency and offered $50 billion for support of state and local governments to fight the virus with FEMA,  additional measures will not have an immediate effect.  But they will definitely slow down the spread of virus "flattening" the epidemics curve and this allowing more paciet to survive.

The current dynamic of epidemic in the USA and the world so far is exponential growth of cases with most infections clustered in just  half-dozen countries. Which is typical for an early stage of virus epidemic. Excluding China which now is past its peak and is in decline, the other fastest growing  hotspots are Italy, Iran, Spain and France. As of Mar 10, 2020 in the USA -- only three states  --  Washington State, New York, and  California have over 100 cases: 

Confirmed cases for the past 10 days for countries and U.S. states with >100 new confirmed cases as of March 10:

Country/State   3/1   3/2   3/3   3/4   3/5   3/6   3/7   3/8   3/9  3/10

Italy           566   342   466   587   769   778  1247  1492  1797  1977
Iran            385   523   835   586   591  1234  1076   743   595   881
Spain            39    36    45    57    37   141   100   173   400   622
France           30    61    13    81    92   276   296   177    83   575
Germany          51    29    37    66   220   188   129   241   136   281
US, Washington                                                        267
Norway            4     6     7    24    31    21    39    29    29   195
US, New York                                                          173
Denmark           1     0     2     4     0    13     0    12    55   172
US, California                                                        144
Switzerland       9    15    14    34    24   100    54    69    37   117
Sweden            2     1     6    14    59     7    60    42    45   107

Posted by: S | Mar 11 2020 18:43 utc | 42 

A a typical flu epidemic in the USA infects tens of million people and cause approx 20-50K fatalities per year (somewhere between 0.1% and 1%)  but does not create any headlines in neoliberal MSM.  According to the CDC’s weekly US flu report of February 22, 2020,

“So far this season there have been at least 32 million flu illnesses, 310,000 hospitalizations and 18,000 deaths from flu.”

For comparison the mortality rate in South Korea, where more than 1,100 tests have been administered per million residents, comes out to just 0.6% and concentrated in the old and/or with chronic conditions. In view of USA media hysteria about Coronavirus COVID-19, we need to concentrate on facts, not fears.  Here is Craig Murray comparison with the Hong Kong flu pandemic of 1968/9:

The Hong Kong flu pandemic of 1968/9 was the last really serious flu pandemic to sweep the UK. They do seem extraordinarily regular – 1919, 1969 and 2020. Flu epidemics have much better punctuality than the trains (though I cheated a bit there and left out the 1958 “Asian flu”). Nowadays “Hong Kong flu” is known as H3N2. Estimates for deaths it caused worldwide vary from 1 to 4 million. In the UK it killed an estimated 80,000 people.

If the current coronavirus had appeared in 1968, it would simply have been called “flu”, probably “Wuhan flu”. COVID-19 may not be nowadays classified as such, but in my youth flu is definitely what we would have called it. The Hong Kong flu was very similar to the current outbreak in being extremely contagious but with a fairly low mortality rate. 30% of the UK population is estimated to have been infected in the Hong Kong flu pandemic. The death rate was about 0.5%, mostly elderly or with underlying health conditions.

But there was no massive panic, no second by second media hysteria, over Hong Kong flu. Let me start being unpopular. “Man in his 80’s already not very well from previous conditions, dies of flu” is not and should not be a news headline. The coverage is prurient, intrusive, unbalanced and designed to cause hysteria.

Diamond Princess liner  represents the perfect environment for the spread of the virus.  Thousands of people jammed in a small place serviced by a single ventilation system…..it’s virus heaven. Surely all on board are dead by now? Well no.

The reality is that most of the deceased presented with existing pathologies, for example, chronic lung disease (often due to smoking), impaired immune response, pre-existing age related illness and disability, latent infections (esp. TB), use of pharmaceutical product (whether prescribed or not), other infection types, poor nutrition (never, ever underestimate the deleterious effects of junk food), etc. Not all the patients were tested for the corona virus either - so how do we even begin to think we know what they had going on?

As Trump tweeted ‘So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!’

He made a fair point, but that does not excuse him sleeping for two months and not preparing to the  epidemics. Several factors determined the USA response:

All in all it is clear the that US administration do not have any plan and improvised as infection unfold. Here we can mention a highly negative, unprofessional  role of National Institute of Allergy and Infections Diseases (NIAID) Director Dr. Anthony Fauci. It looks like he is one trick poly, an advocate of vaccinations (does he hold stocks related to vaccination is unknown) . In context of this epidemic after sleeping two months, he started advocating taking drastic measure in order to "flatten the curve" without providing any data that can convince us that such a flattening is needed  (The Last Refuge ):

The concept of “flattening” the virus curve; the presumptive reason for social distancing; is based on a theory to extend the spread of COVID-19 to a lesser incident rate over a longer duration, thereby lessening the burden on the U.S. healthcare system.  Hence, ‘flatten’ the spike in infections.

Put another way: “Flattening” means the same number of people eventually contract the virus, only they do so over a longer period of time, and the healthcare system can treat everyone because the numbers do not rise to level where the system is overloaded.  In theory that seems to make sense.

However, no-one is asking: what is the current stress level on the healthcare system right now?  Where are we in that capacity?… and what is normal capacity level during a high-level flu outbreak?… and Where are we when compared against that baseline?

Again, Dr. Fauci slept like the rest of Trump administration for two months and suddenly in mid March started to give alarmist  interviews, several a day,  provoking overreaction.  Later he admitted that his based on zero facts fearmongering "worst case scenario" about several million victims was wrong and was exaggerated at least ten times, but it was too late. A SHOCKING CORRECTION Dr. Fauci Went from a Possible 1.7 Million US Deaths Due to Coronavirus to a Possible 200,000 US Deaths. In reality, there probably will be less then 60K deaths in the USA. The damage tot he economy was already done. Instead of establishing in January a mission in Korea and studying the disease,  he was caught without pants. 

The reaction of neoliberal MSM seems to be utterly and totally disproportionate to the risk. When  all official information sources march in lock-step you can reasonably assume some sort of mind-fuck is underway.

But how high risk and what kind of risk could COVID-19 represent? I can only speculate but a few possibilities present themselves. (Remember I’m referring to the reaction here, not the virus itself).

For a start the economic impact of the panic will be considerable. Stocks and bonds will crash precipitously. Millions of investors will be ruined. Nobody knows how far the drop can go.

Wealthy investors could end up buying assets for a fraction of their true worth. It’s happened before on multiple occasions. Then there’s Big Pharma which is sitting on a potential gold mine

MSM dirty dance around human mortality is very annoing.  Risk is clearly tolerated less these days, safety measures are everywhere. But life of ordinary people under neoliberalism is not valued. BS jobs, junk food, subprime and expensive healthcare, crude “entertainment”.

Also significant percentage of those who will die from COVID-19 would die from flu too.

  • utu says:Show Comment
    @Anonymous (n)
    60,000 people die every month in Italy. Many of them old. Now we have 1,000 reported dead due to the Covid-19. Most of them old. Many of them would have died anyway from some cold or flu that would further aggravate their poor state of health. This year Covid-19 got there first.

     

  • Monotonous Languor says:Show Comment
  • March 13, 2020 at 7:03 am GMT • 300 Words

    After sober analysis, extensive reading, and careful assessment of each and every fact either directly or indirectly related to COVID19, I am now fully convinced of the following:

    – The virus was deliberately created by aliens from the Betelgeuse solar system, who have been secretly spying on our planet for the last 200 years.
    – The Betelgeusians have developed a supremely accurate quantum computer model (“It’s Quantum!”) of our species, which predicts what various factions of humanity will do given any set of specific circumstances and inputs.
    – The Betelgeusians, in their infinite wisdom, have decided to re-balance various factions of humanity here on earth, depending on their projected threat to other populations and the planet in general.
    – After running various scenarios through their quantum computer (“It’s Quantum!”), the results for advancing an optimal future became obvious.
    – The COVID19 was created specifically to attack Italians, Iranians, and Han Chinese.
    – In their computer simulation (“It’s Quantum!”), those three groups were considered most egregiously able to perpetrate negative effects on the rest of humanity in the future.
    – Therefore, the Betelgeusians made the onerous decision to create and release the virus.
    – Various intended consequences were also the result of the simulation (“It’s Quantum!”); these include vituperation and blowback on the US Deep State embedded for lo! these many years.
    – A popular mass uprising will take effect against the Derp State, and leftism/progressivism will finally be tossed out on its collective ear all over Western Civilization. It will be so thoroughly maligned, that it will finally end up on the ash heap of history, never to return.
    – The Betelgeusians will surreptitiously introduce an antidote into the ecosphere, thereby eradicating all further related susceptibility and deaths.
    – The Betelgeusians will look down on their handiwork with benign satisfaction.
    – Western Civilization will again have a chance to flourish like never before, entering a new Renaissance, and everybody will live happily ever after.

    There… don’t you like my story much better than all the other nonsense you’ve been pummeled with lately? (You can thank me later.)


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    Jan 02, 2021 | off-guardian.org

    he World Health Organization has changed the definition of "herd immunity" on the Covid section of their website, inserting the claim that it is a "concept used in vaccination", and requires a vaccine to be achieved.

    Both of these statements are total falsehoods, which is demonstrated by the WHO's own website back in June, and every dictionary definition of "herd immunity" you can find.

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    Herd immunity is the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or a natural immunity developed through previous infection.

    This definition was posted on the WHO's website on June 9th of this year, and conforms with the general usage of the term for generations .

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    'Herd immunity', also known as 'population immunity', is a concept used for vaccination, in which a population can be protected from a certain virus if a threshold of vaccination is reached.

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    Indeed all the previous versions of the website have been totally wiped from the wayback machine. A telling thing to do, in and of itself.

    We're only aware of the change because screencaps of the original exist:

    The new definition, aside from being inaccurate and off-handedly disposing of decades of epidemiological research, is also contradictory. It includes the phrase:

    Herd immunity is achieved by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it."

    Which is newspeak doublethink nonsense. The entire point of vaccination IS "exposing" people to the virus.

    This revised, inaccurate and contradictory definition of "herd immunity" was first expressed in a speech by WHO Director General Thedros Adhanom on October 12th. Within three days that speech had been added, word for word, to the website. And within a month of the change, the UK had approved the first commercial vaccine for Sars-Cov-2 infection.

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    Jan 01, 2021 | zerohedge.com

    Authored by Jeffrey Tucker via The American Institute for Economic Research,

    The paper of record in 2020 shifted dramatically to the most illiberal stance possible on the virus, pushing for full lockdowns, and ignoring or burying any information that might contradict the case for this unprecedented experiment in social and economic control. This article highlights the exceptions.

    ...

    Even within the blatant and aggressive pro-lockdown bias, and consistent with the way the New York Times does its work, the paper has not been entirely barren of truth about Covid and lockdowns. Below I list five times that the news section of the paper, however inadvertently and however buried deep within the paper, actually told the truth.

    1. Your Coronavirus Test Is Positive. Maybe It Shouldn't Be.

    I'm still stunned that the paper did a study that confirmed what people have suspected, namely that a high cycle threshold used on PCR testing was creating the appearance of a pandemic that might have long receded. The testing mania was generating wild illusions of millions of "asymptomatic" carriers and spreaders. How severe was the problem? Read this and weep:

    In three sets of testing data that include cycle thresholds, compiled by officials in Massachusetts, New York and Nevada, up to 90 percent of people testing positive carried barely any virus, a review by The Times found.

    On Thursday, the United States recorded 45,604 new coronavirus cases, according to a database maintained by The Times . If the rates of contagiousness in Massachusetts and New York were to apply nationwide, then perhaps only 4,500 of those people may actually need to isolate and submit to contact tracing.

    The implications of this revelation are incredible. A major reason for the ongoing lockdowns are due to the pouring in of positive case numbers from massive testing. If 90% of these positive tests are false, we have a major problem. The whole basis of the panic disappears. All credit to the Times for running the article but why no follow up and why no change in its editorial stance?

    2. Scientists See Signs of Lasting Immunity to Covid-19, Even After Mild Infections .

    Byline By Katherine J. Wu

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    Scientists who have been monitoring immune responses to the virus are now starting to see encouraging signs of strong, lasting immunity, even in people who developed only mild symptoms of Covid-19, a flurry of new studies suggests. Disease-fighting antibodies, as well as immune cells called B cells and T cells that are capable of recognizing the virus, appear to persist months after infections have resolved -- an encouraging echo of the body's enduring response to other viruses .

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    Twelve Times The 'Lockdowners' Were Wrong BY TYLER DURDEN SUNDAY, DEC 27, 2020 - 23:35

    Authored by Phillip Magness via The American Institute for Economic Research,

    This has been a year of astonishing policy failure. We are surrounded by devastation conceived and cheered by intellectuals and their political handmaidens...

    The errors number in the thousands, so please consider the following little more than a first draft, a mere guide to what will surely be unearthed in the coming months and years. We trusted these people with our lives and liberties and here is what they did with that trust.

    1. Anthony Fauci says lockdowns are not possible in the United States (January 24):

    When asked about the mass quarantine containment efforts underway in Wuhan, China back in January, Fauci dismissed the prospect of lockdowns ever coming to the United States :

    "That's something that I don't think we could possibly do in the United States, I can't imagine shutting down New York or Los Angeles, but the judgement on the part of the Chinese health authorities is that given the fact that it's spreading throughout the provinces it's their judgement that this is something that in fact is going to help in containing it. Whether or not it does or does not is really open to question because historically when you shut things down it doesn't have a major effect."

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    1. Anthony Fauci 's decimal error in estimating Covid's fatality rates (March 11)

    Fauci testified before Congress in early March where he was asked to estimate the severity of the disease in comparison to influenza. His testimony that Covid was "10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu" stoked widespread alarm and provided a major impetus for the decision to go into lockdown.

    The problem, as Ronald Brown documented in an epidemiology journal article , is that Fauci based his estimates on a conflation of the Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) and Case Fatality Rate (CFR) for influenza, leading him to exaggerate the comparative danger of Covid by an order of magnitude. Fauci's error – which he further compounded in a late February article for the New England Journal of Medicine – helped to convince Congress of the need for drastic lockdown measures, while also spreading panic in the media and general public. As of this writing Fauci has not acknowledged the magnitude of his error, nor has the journal corrected his article.

    1. "Two weeks to flatten the curve" (March 16)

    The lockdowners settled on a catchy slogan in mid-March to justify their unprecedented shuttering of economic and social life around the globe: two weeks to flatten the curve. The White House Covid task force aggressively promoted this line , as did the news media and much of the epidemiology profession. The logic behind the slogan came from the ubiquitous graph showing (1) a steep caseload that would overwhelm our hospital system, or (2) a mitigated alternative that would spread the caseload out over several weeks, making it manageable.

    To get to graph #2, society would need to buckle up for two weeks of shelter-in-place orders until the capacity issue could be managed. Indeed, we were told that if we did not accept this solution the hospital system would enter into catastrophic failure in only 10 days, as former DHS pandemic adviser Tom Bossert claimed in a widely-circulated interview and Washington Post column on March 11.

    Two weeks came and went, then the rationale on which they were sold to the public shifted. Hospitals were no longer on the verge of being overwhelmed – indeed most hospitals nationwide remained well under capacity, with only a tiny number of exceptions in the worst-hit neighborhoods of New York City.

    A US Navy hospital ship sent to relieve New York departed a month later after serving only 182 patients , and a pop-up hospital in the city's Javits Convention Center sat mostly empty . But the lockdowns remained in place, as did the emergency orders justifying them. Two weeks became a month, which became two months, which became almost a year. We were no longer "flattening the curve" – a strategy premised on saving the hospital system from a threat than never manifested – but instead refocused on using lockdowns as a general suppression strategy against the disease itself. In short, the epidemiology profession sold us a bill of goods.

    1. Neil Ferguson predicts a "best case" US scenario of 1.1 million deaths (March 20)

    The name Neil Ferguson, the lead modeler and chief spokesman for Imperial College London's pandemic response team, has become synonymous with lockdown alarmism for good reason. Ferguson has a long track record of making grossly exaggerated predictions of catastrophic death tolls for almost every single disease that comes along, and urging aggressive policy responses to the same including lockdowns.

    Covid was no different, and Ferguson assumed center stage when he released a highly influential model of the virus's death forecasts for the US and UK. Ferguson appeared with UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson on March 16 to announce the shift toward lockdowns (with no small irony, he was coming down with Covid himself at the time and may have been the patient zero of a super-spreader event that ran through Downing Street and infected Johnson himself).

    Across the Atlantic, Anthony Fauci and Deborah Birx cited Ferguson's model as a direct justification for locking down the US. There was a problem though: Ferguson had a bad habit of dramatically hyping his own predictions to political leaders and the press. The Imperial College paper modeled a broad range of scenarios including death tolls that ranged from tens of thousands to over 2 million, but Ferguson's public statements only stressed the latter – even though the paper itself conceded that such an extreme "worst case" scenario was highly unrealistic. A telling example came on March 20th when the New York Times's Nicholas Kristof contacted the Imperial College modeler to ask about the most likely scenario for the United States. As Kristof related to his readers, "I asked Ferguson for his best case. "About 1.1 million deaths," he said."

    1. Researchers in Sweden use the Imperial College model to predict 95,000 deaths (April 10)

    After Neil Ferguson's shocking death toll predictions for the US and UK captivated policymaker attention and drove both governments into lockdown, researchers in other countries began adapting the Imperial College model to their own circumstances. Usually, these models sought to reaffirm the decisions of each country to lock down. The government of Sweden, however, had decided to buck the trend, setting the stage for a natural experiment to test the Imperial model's performance.

    In early April a team of researchers at Uppsala University adapted the Imperial model to Sweden's population and demographics and ran its projections. Their result? If Sweden stayed the course and did not lock down, it could expect a catastrophic 96,000 deaths by early summer. The authors of the study recommended going into immediate lockdown, but since Sweden lagged behind Europe in adopting such measures they also predicted that this "best case" option would reduce deaths to "only" 30,000.

    By early June when the 96,000 prediction was supposed to come true, Sweden had recorded 4,600 deaths. Six months later, Sweden has about 8,000 deaths – a severe pandemic to be sure, but an order of magnitude smaller than what the modelers predicted . Facing embarrassment from these results, Ferguson and Imperial College attempted to distance themselves from the Swedish adaptation of their model in early May. Yet the Uppsala team's projections closely matched Imperial's own UK and US predictions when scaled to reflect their population sizes. In short, the Imperial model catastrophically failed one of the few clear natural experiment tests of its predictive ability.

    1. Scientists suggest that ocean spray spreads Covid (April 2)

    In the second week of the lockdowns several newspapers in California promoted a bizarre theory: Covid could spread by ocean spray (although the paper later walked back the headline-grabbing claim, it is outlined here in the Los Angeles Times ). According to this theory – initially promoted by a group of biologists who study bacterial infection connected to storm runoff – the Covid virus washed down storm gutters and into the ocean, where the ocean breeze would kick it up into the air and infect people on the nearby beaches. As silly as this theory now sounds, it helped to inform California's initially draconian enforcement of lockdowns on its public beaches.

    The same week that this modern-day miasmic drift theory appeared, police in Malibu even arrested a lone paddleboarder for going into the ocean during the lockdown – all while citing the possibility that the ocean breeze carried Covid with it.

    1. Neil Ferguson predicts catastrophic death tolls in US states that reopen (May 24)

    Fresh off of their exaggerated predictions from March, the Imperial College team led by Neil Ferguson doubled down on alarmist modeling. As several US states started to reopen in late April and May, Ferguson and his colleagues published a new model predicting another catastrophic wave of deaths by the mid-summer. Their model focused on 5 states with both moderate and severe outbreaks during the first wave. If they reopened, according to the Imperial team's model, New York could face up to 3,000 deaths per day by July.

    Florida could hit as high as 4,000, and California could hit 5,000 daily deaths. Keeping in mind that these projections were for each state alone, they exceed the daily death toll peaks for the entire country in both the fall and spring. Showing just how bad the Imperial model was, the actual death toll by mid-July in several of the examined states even fell below the lower confidence boundary of its projected count . While Covid remains a threat in all 5 states, the post-reopening explosion of deaths predicted by Imperial College and used to argue for keeping the lockdowns in place never happened.

    1. Anthony Fauci credits lockdowns for beating the virus in Europe (July 31)

    In late July Anthony Fauci offered additional testimony to Congress. His message credited Europe's heavy lockdowns with defeating the virus, whereas he blamed the United States for reopening too early and for insufficient aggressiveness in the initial lockdowns. As Fauci stated at the time, "If you look at what happened in Europe, when they shut down or locked down or went to shelter in place -- however you want to describe it -- they really did it to the tune of about 95% plus of the country did that."

    The message was clear: the United States should have followed Europe, but failed to do so and got a summer wave of Covid instead. Fauci's entire argument however was based on a string of falsehoods and errors.

    Mobility data from the US clearly showed that most Americans were staying home during the spring outbreak, with a recorded decline that matched Germany, the Netherlands, and several other European countries. Contrary to Fauci's claim, the US was actually slower than most of Europe to reopen. Furthermore, his praise of Europe collapsed in the early fall when almost all of the lockdown countries in Europe experienced severe second waves – just like the locked down regions of the United States.

    1. New Zealand and Australia declare themselves Covid-free (August-present)

    New Zealand and Australia have thus far weathered the pandemic with extremely low case counts, leading many epidemiologists and journalists to conflate these results with evidence of their successful and replicable mitigation policies. In reality, New Zealand and Australia opted for the medieval ' Prince Prospero' strategy of attempting to wall themselves from the world until the pandemic passes – an approach that is highly dependent on their unique geographies.

    As island nations with comparatively lower international travel than North America and Europe, both countries shut down their borders before the as-of-yet undetected virus became widespread and have remained closed ever since. It's a costly strategy in terms of its economic impact and personal displacement, but it kept the virus out – mostly.

    The problem with New Zealand and Australia's Prince Prospero strategy is that it's inherently fragile. All it takes to throw it into chaos is for the virus to slip past the border – including by accident or human error. Then heavy-handed lockdowns ensue, imposed with maximum disruption at the spur of the moment in a frantic attempt to contain the breach.

    The most famous example happened on August 9 when New Zealand's Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern declared that New Zealand had reached 100 days of being Covid-free . Then just two days later a breach happened , sending Auckland into heavy lockdown. It's a pattern that has repeated itself every few weeks in both countries.

    In early December, we saw a similar flurry of stories from Australia announcing that the country had beaten Covid . Two weeks later, another breach occurred in the suburbs around Sydney, prompting a regional lockdown . There have been embarrassing missteps as well. In November the entire state of South Australia went into heavy lockdown over a single misreported case of Covid that was mistakenly attributed to a pizza purchase that did not exist. While both countries continue to celebrate their low fatality rates, they've also incurred some of the harshest and most disruptive restrictions in the world – all the result of premature declarations of being "Covid-free" followed by an unexpected breach and another frantic lockdown.

    1. "Renewed lockdowns are just a strawman" (October)

    In early October a group of scientists met at AIER where they drafted and signed the Great Barrington Declaration , a statement calling attention to the severe social and economic harms of lockdowns and urging the world to adopt alternative strategies for ensuring the protection of the most vulnerable. Although the statement quickly gathered tens of thousands of co-signers from health science and medical professionals, it also left the lockdown supporters incensed. They responded not by scientific debate over the merits of their policies, but with a vilification campaign .

    They answered by flooding the petition with hoax signatures and juvenile name-calling, and by peddling wildly false conspiracy theories about AIER's funding (the primary instigator of both tactics, ironically, was a UK blogger known for promoting 9/11 Truther conspiracies ). But the lockdowners also adopted another narrative: they began to deny that lockdowns were even on the table.

    Nobody was considering bringing back the lockdowns from the spring, they insisted. Arguing against the politically unpopular shelter-in-place orders in the fall only served the purpose of undermining public support for narrower and more temperate restrictions. The Great Barrington authors, we were told, were arguing with a "strawman" from the past.

    Over the next several weeks in October a dozen or more prominent epidemiologists, public health experts, and journalists peddled the "lockdowns are a strawman" line . The "strawman" claim saw promotion in top outlets including the New York Times , and in an op-ed by two principle co-signers of the John Snow Memorandum, a competing petition that lockdown supporters drafted as a response to the Great Barrington Declaration.

    The message was clear: the GBD was sounding a false alarm against policies from the past that the lockdowners "reluctantly" supported in the spring as an emergency measure but had no intention of reviving. By early November, the "strawman" of renewed lockdowns became a reality in dozens of countries across the globe – often cheered on by the very same people who used the "strawman" canard in October.

    Several US states followed suit including California, which imposed severe restrictions on private gatherings up to and including meeting your own family for Thanksgiving and Christmas. And a few weeks after that, some of the very same epidemiologists who used the "strawman" line in October revised their own positions after the fact. They started claiming they had supported a second lockdown all along, and began blaming the GBD for impeding their efforts to impose them at an earlier date. In short, the entire "lockdowns are a strawman" narrative was false. And it now appears that more than a few of the scientists who used it were actively lying about their own intentions in October.

    1. Anthony Fauci touts New York as a model for Covid containment (June-December)

    By all indicators, New York state has suffered one of the worst coronavirus outbreaks in the world. Its year-end mortality rate of almost 1,900 deaths per million residents exceeds every single country in the world. The state famously bungled its nursing home response when Governor Andrew Cuomo forced these facilities to readmit Covid-positive patients as a way to relieve strains on hospitals. The policy backfired as most hospitals never reached capacity, but the readmissions introduced the virus into vulnerable nursing home populations resulting in widespread fatalities (to this day New York intentionally undercounts nursing home fatalities by excluding residents who are moved to a hospital from its reported numbers, further obscuring the true toll of Cuomo's order).

    New York has also fared poorly during the fall "second wave" despite reimposing harsh restrictions and regional lockdown measures. By mid-December, its death rate shot far above the mostly-open state of Florida, which has the closest comparable population size to New York. All things considered, New York's weathering of the pandemic is an exemplar of what not to do.

    Cuomo's policies not only failed to contain the virus – they likely made it far more deadly to vulnerable populations. Enter Anthony Fauci, who has been asked multiple times in the press what a model Covid response policy would look like. He gave his first answer on July 20th : "We know that, when you do it properly, you bring down those cases. We have done it. We have done it in New York."

    Fauci was operating under the assumption that New York, despite its bad run in the spring, had successfully brought the pandemic under control through its aggressive lockdowns and slow reopening. One might think that the fall rebound in New York, despite locking down again, would call this conclusion into question. Not so much for Dr. Fauci, who told the Wall Street Journal on December 8 : "New York got hit really badly in the beginning" but they did "a really good job of keeping things down, and still, their level is low compared to the rest of the country."

    [Dec 27, 2020] The New COVID-19 Strain Is A Political Disaster Of Our Own Making - ZeroHedge

    Dec 27, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

    The New COVID-19 Strain Is A Political Disaster Of Our Own Making BY TYLER DURDEN SUNDAY, DEC 27, 2020 - 9:20

    Authored by Rob Sutton via TheCritic.co.uk,

    By seeking answers to scientific questions no-one had asked, we find ourselves assigning importance to discoveries which may have none...

    I n justifying the move to a new national lockdown, the leaders of the UK briefly enjoyed the political fortune of a headline-grabbing finding: a new strain of Covid-19, possibly more virulent than the old.

    This strain, despite the paucity of scientific data, has been described as "up to 70 per cent more transmissible than the old variant," and it is this figure which has gripped the media and policymakers. The tendency towards catastrophism is palpable.

    Yet this new strain, VUI-202012/01, quickly transcended its role within national politics as the justification for introducing Tier 4 lockdowns. The fear of a new, super-transmissible mutant strain has spread to other nations, who are similarly eager to display the sort of knee-jerk reactionary interventions being generously described as "decisive leadership." Over 30 countries have banned entry by UK citizens over fears of the new strain, with chaotic scenes at Dover exacerbating already tetchy Brexit negotiations.

    Never mind that the Department of Health committee whose recommendations regarding the new strain expressed considerable uncertainty about the transmissibility and dangers posed. At present, the precautionary principle completely dominates decision making in Westminster and the devolved assemblies. "Better safe than sorry," we hear, as further lockdowns are announced without the slightest hint of legislative oversight.

    How has this happened so quickly? It seems that hardly had news of a mutant strain of Covid-19 broken that we were promptly shepherded into Tier 4 and became a global pariah. To understand how this panic has developed, we need to understand the nature of diagnostic medicine, its relationship to the scientific method, and how both might be abused for political ends.

    In Britain, we have one of the most advanced scientific, medical and technological infrastructures in the world. This infrastructure was greatly expanded during the early months of the pandemic, with Covid-19 diagnostic testing capacity rapidly increased. The reasons for this increase were largely political. By pushing to achieve 100,000 tests per day, the government hoped it might reassure an anxious public.

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    Under normal circumstances, medical tests are generally not used with such political goals in mind. They form part of a process of hypothesis testing and Bayesian reasoning to guide the rational medical management of patients with diagnostic uncertainty. We begin by forming a question, choosing a test to answer that question, and applying that test, bearing in mind the limits of diagnostic certainty for a given investigation.

    The key here is that a diagnostic test is used to answer a specific question. We do not, as a matter of both economic feasibility and ethical restraint, apply scattergun testing to vast swathes of the population without a good reason. In populations at risk of a disease but otherwise asymptomatic, we might use screening to identify disease in an early stage and to improve treatment outcomes. But never before have we attempted to apply such intensive "screening" for such a poorly understood disease to guide such far reaching policies as the infringements of civil liberties we are currently seeing.

    At present, national testing programmes are being used as political vehicles to justify pre-determined policy prescriptions, instead of as scientific instruments to answer well-formulated diagnostic questions. Those policy makers who saw testing infrastructure as a way to tally-up some quick political points have instead scored something of an own goal, subjecting us to a torrent of data which, instead of reassuring us, only serves to give us more questions. The perversion of the scientific method doesn't get much worse than this.

    As an anxious patient who is subject to a battery of tests will only become more anxious as incidental findings lead to further follow-up questions, so too do our policymakers find themselves with more problems than answers through the indiscriminate application of the full arsenal of testing methods at the disposal of the British state. And these problems have a habit of producing even more problems through a cycle of positive feedback.

    Since the early days of the pandemic, the UK's testing capacity has been aggressively expanded. The original target of 100,000 tests per day was no sooner reached than it was replaced by a new target of 200,000 tests per day. The political thinking here is obvious: a big number ought to reassure the public. But this is extraordinarily myopic.

    More intensive testing leads to new justifications for even more intensive testing. The cycle is as follows: we start with a moderate testing capacity which is primarily used to detect cases among the sickest and most vulnerable patients, in order to guide further treatment. Concerns are raised by those not able to access testing for themselves. The government pledges to expand testing beyond its initial scope, and broadens the eligibility criteria to include doctors, nurses, care home workers and others.

    We start to include more and more asymptomatic carriers for whom a positive case has an essentially negligible risk of serious harm. Yet the number which captures the public's attention is the absolute number of positive cases. With a vastly increased number of tests, we get a vastly increased number of positive cases. And the government, seeing a situation running away from it and desperate to regain control by those limited means available to it, promises to further increase testing capacity. The cycle continues.

    More tests will naturally lead to more cases, particularly if those tests are used indiscriminately and with no real strategy in mind. The problem compounds when we consider the increase in the absolute number of false positives. The growth in false positives is linear with increase in number of tests, but the negative consequences for society spread out as a highly non-linear network, with isolation of contacts of (falsely) positive cases having expansive and synergistic negative consequences for broader society. But even without this, and assuming that all our positive results are true positives, by using testing as a form of mass-surveillance we have set ourselves up for a never-ending cycle of lockdowns.

    The same logic applies to the genetic testing which has unearthed this "new" strain, although we may yet find that it has been in circulation globally for a long time . By testing more, without knowing what we are testing for, we will find things which, from a political perspective, necessitate further intervention.

    The corpus of data which can be poured over to find new justifications for ongoing restrictions continues to grow. With the added dimension of genomic studies, the potential for the noise to smother the signal grows, particularly at a time when there is strong public and political demand for a coherent narrative. There will always exist some metric sufficiently intimidating that it might be used to justify a new lockdown. Yet we keep searching without really knowing what we are searching for or why we are doing it.

    There is essentially no logic upper limit to how intensively we can test and how many different techniques we can apply to elucidate Covid-19 and its various strains. Some strains will inevitably be more virulent, and will, by definition, have a greater tendency to spread. This is not, in itself, a cause for alarm; it is simply Darwinism on a microscopic scale. And whether these findings matter from a policymaking perspective is an altogether different question.

    The scientific method begins with a question and sets out to find an answer. If we decide to seek answers without questions, then we end up with data which must be interpreted and given significance post hoc, regardless of whether that significance really exists. Positive feedback cycles are difficult to escape from. The various governments of the UK and its devolved legislatures urgently need to rationalise the use of testing and clearly justify the introduction of any new investigative methods. Otherwise, we will be trapped by a political crisis of our own making.

    [Dec 27, 2020] New Study Suggests Asymptomatic COVID Patients Aren't -Driver Of Transmission

    Are not so called asymptomatic cases mostly a side effect of excessive amplifications in PcR tests? So they are healthy people who were "false positives" in PcR test. If this is true they present no danger.
    Dec 25, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

    Thanks in part to a massive investment in research by the British government, a lot of interesting data has come out of the UK, including a study which supposedly found evidence that immunity to COVID 'degrades' in the months after infection . Now, other studies have come to seemingly contradictory conclusions . It's just another reminder how fraught and complicated the process of study and research can be during an unprecedented pandemic.

    It should also be a reminder, particularly as all the world's top COVID-vaccine manufacturers reassure the public that their vaccines will work against the more infectious mutated strains allegedly discovered in the UK and South Africa, among other places, that the leading scientific and public health authorities aren't always 100% certain when it comes to - as they like to call it - "the science".

    And in yet another reminder of this principle, the American Medical Association's JAMA Network Open journal has published new research from a government-backed study that appears to offer new evidence that asymptomatic spread of COVID-19 may be significantly lower than previously thought.

    Some members of the public might remember all the way back in February and January when public officials first speculated that mass mask-wearing might not be that helpful unless individuals were actually sick. They famously back-tracked on that, and - for that, and other reasons - decided that we should all wear masks, and that lockdowns were more or less the best solution to the problem, even as millions of Americans continued to flout the new "rules" daily.

    But for those who don't, this paper makes one thing clear: For all the talk in the press about asymptomatic people being infectious, which included a heavy-handed rebuke of a WHO scientist who nonchalantly said a few months back that asymptomatic people don't spread the virus as effectively, there haven't been many large-sample-size longer-term studies that study how "asymptomatic" patients actually spread the virus vs. how "symptomatic" patients do, since most public health agencies don't even collect data on whether people who test positive are asymptomatic, pre-symptomatic, or symptomatic (a specification which, as most people probably know by now, can vary widely).

    Since the pandemic has only been ongoing for less than a year now, researchers have instead tried conducting "meta studies" - that is, comparing data collected in dozens of studies examining some aspect of the virus's functionality. In the paper noted above which examined 54 separate studies with nearly 78K total participants, the authors claim that "The lack of substantial transmission from observed asymptomatic index cases is notable...These findings are consistent with other household studies reporting asymptomatic index cases as having limited role in household transmission."

    This is of course not the first time we have heard this. Aside from the WHO scientist example cited above, two British scientists recently published an editorial in the BMJ imploring scientists to rethink how the virus spreads "asymptomatically".

    They pointed to "the absence of strong evidence that asymptomatic people are a driver of transmission" as a reason to question such practices as "mass testing in schools, universities, and communities."

    That's not to say that asymptomatic people can't spread the virus, it's just to say that maybe there is a significant difference in risk levels in terms of exposure . Of course, public health officials at this point seem to be afraid to acknowledge anything that questions the notion that everybody is potentially a threat. To be clear, the WHO's current guidance on the issue is that "while someone who never develops symptoms can also pass the virus to others, it is still not clear to what extent this occurs, and more research is needed in this area" - but at this point, they have changed their guidance and flip-flopped so many times, who even knows, understands or cares what they say?

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    Anyway, it's just some more food for thought next time somebody tries to lecture you about "the science".


    adr 1 hour ago (Edited) remove link

    Asymptomatic people can not spread a viral infection.

    This was considered fact until 2020.

    valjoux7750 1 hour ago

    Friend of mine passed away from non covid illness and the hospital offered to pay all his medical bills if allowed to record as covid. His wife accepted.

    Robespierre2020 23 minutes ago

    They will never, ever admit that asymptomatic actually means false positive. They must keep the case count up at all costs to keep stoking the fear.

    Itchy and Scratchy 1 hour ago

    The Big Lie is mutating quickly! Hide the women & children!

    Newstarmistagain 1 hour ago

    Anybody else get the feeling that this coronavirus nonsense is really nothing more than a huge Pavlovian experiment being conducted on the entire population? You do realize that Pavlov's dogs ended up catatonic, and in a state of perpetual fear, eh goiyim cattle?

    PanGlossius 1 hour ago

    Right on. This smells like the brute simplicity of Skinner or Pavlov programming. Crude, careless, short time horizon. Like the practitioners are just running out the clock.

    namrider 1 hour ago remove link

    Conflicting reports and information because it = PSYOP

    MrBoompi 33 minutes ago

    What is a "covid patient"? Someone who tested positive? The pcr test doesn't detect live viruses. Why would someone who is not sick, aka asymptomatic, be considered a patient?

    This is the fraud we are enduring.

    jomama 46 minutes ago

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w

    Out of ~10,000,000 people observed, not a single case of asymptomatic transmission.

    This lie has the been premise for healthy people to wear masks.

    Reject the authoritarianism immediately.

    [Dec 24, 2020] Virus mutations are typically less lethal than the earlier form of the virus. Serial mutations are most common when herd immunity is being reached.

    Dec 24, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

    Liberty Blogger , Dec 22 2020 8:08 utc | 47

    Virus mutations are typically less lethal than the earlier form of the virus. Serial mutations are most common when herd immunity is being reached.

    How does this established science fail to disrupt virus lockdown mania?

    Fake science wins again on the panic scale.

    [Dec 10, 2020] Covid epidemic, PCR test abuse, and other calamities

    The fact that Cr (number of amplification cycles) was not reported, creates some bad thoughts. Especially about Fauci and his gang ;-) Can Fauci be sued for criminal negligence?
    Dec 10, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

    wonderman 3 hours ago remove link

    I lost my dad due to a drunk driver. Therefore, we should ban cars and alcohol. Maybe, we should also ban bottles because the drunk driver drank out of a bottle. Oh, and maybe we should ban humans too because ... You see the logic!

    LEEPERMAX 3 hours ago

    It's worth repeating

    A POSITIVE PCR TEST IS NOT A "CASE"

    Lansman 2 hours ago

    They will continue to manipulate the test results to ensure the desired level of fear and panic. It is the only way to get the public to accept their absurd lockdowns and mask requirements.

    Patrick Bateman Jr. 2 hours ago

    99.9992% of the US population has survived.

    ThePub'Lick_Hare 2 hours ago

    Time for every state to follow Florida by class action suit. This farce has gone on too long. Kudos to Florida for taking the initiative. Now at last people can ask relevant questions and insist on proper protocol. The Portuguese High Court saw false COVID testing for what it is, the spark and flame of a reign of terror. Time to douse the flames and the douche-bags inflaming the scam-demic.

    Lucky Guesst 3 hours ago

    The test results weren't supposed to change until after they got Trump out and after the vaccine release so the sheep could bow to the Democrats for "saving" them. The PCR cycle threshold will change to 5 after our 100 days of penance.

    Ajax_USB_Port_Repair_Service_ 2 hours ago (Edited)

    " Whoever wins the presidency " Will get the credit.

    Agree, covid hysteria is being controlled by some group more powerful than our president.

    [Dec 06, 2020] Tested 'Positive' For COVID-19- Be Sure To Ask This Question

    Highly recommended!
    Dec 06, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

    The lockdowns are based on surging "cases" which are based on positive PCR test results.

    However, what exactly is a positive PCR test result? What does it mean? As Dr. Tommy Megremis summarized recently :

    If you are generally aware, the PCR test is used to amplify small amount of genetic material so as to recognize patterns of DNA by "cycling." (Also, for RNA virus, the RNA is converted to DNA in order to be detected, it's just the way the test works) This is how we have been able to recognize the genomes in Egyptian mummies and Wooly Mammoths. It works because if you amplify and cycle enough times to "grow" legitimate DNA fragments, you get something with with a fair amount of specificity. W hat is becoming more and more apparent is that the PCR test was not designed as a diagnostic tool for infection, and really cannot function as one without having a huge amount of false positives, period.

    When it comes to COVID, the presence of viral particles picked up by the PCR technique does not and has not been quantitatively linked to an active "symptomatic" infection. It simply cannot be so, because infection threshold as a result of viral load is different for each patient. It turns out, if you "cycle" over around 25 times, the false positivity of COVID infection starts getting very high.

    I and others have explained in blogs how people can be exposed to virus, and mount a simple innate immune response and never know any differently. When you test these people with very low viral loads, who are not sick, you can find the viral RNA code that is used to "diagnose" if you cycle enough times. The last I read, Labcorp cycles at least 40 times to detect viral genome fragments. The PCR test was never intended for diagnosis of infection but as a qualitative test for presence of parts of a virus genome. I know there has been some confusion circulating the net about what the inventor Kary Mullis had said about that. But we walk daily with people who have any number of parts of killer virus or bacterial genomes which one could pick up with a PCR test if one had the specific test for it. Would we claim that that individual was an infected patient? No!

    So given all that, PeakProsperity's Chris Martenson explains below , in great details, the answer to the most important question you should ask if you or a loved one gets a positive PCR test result .

    "What's the Cycle Threshold (CT) value for that test?"

    Sounds wonky but it's actually really important to understand. A low CT value means someone is loaded with virus. A high value, oppositely, means less of a viral load.

    Beyond a certain level the load is insufficient to either infect someone else or be of any clinical or epidemiological relevance whatsoever.

    The problem? Governments all over the country and world are basing their decisions on CT values that are very high. Too high.

    https://www.youtube.com/embed/eWqNl4UUlH0

    https://lockerdome.com/lad/13084989113709670?pubid=ld-dfp-ad-13084989113709670-0&pubo=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com&rid=www.zerohedge.com&width=890

    * * *

    Links:

    WHO PCR 47 (!) Cycles

    https://www.who.int/diagnostics_laboratory/eul_0489_185_00_path_covid19_ce_ivd_ifu_issue_2.0.pdf?ua=1

    CT over 35 is non-infectious

    https://www.infectiousdiseaseadvisor.com/home/topics/covid19/ct-value-may-inform-when-patients-with-covid-19-can-be-safely-discharged/

    Cycle Thresholds Too Damn High

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html

    Corman Drosten retraction request

    https://cormandrostenreview.com/report/

    Bad Testing Video Sept 1

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    UK PCR positive standards

    https://www.england.nhs.uk/coronavirus/wp-content/uploads/sites/52/2020/03/guidance-and-sop-covid-19-virus-testing-in-nhs-laboratories-v1.pdf

    Kansas CT cutoff of 42

    https://www.coronavirus.kdheks.gov/DocumentCenter/View/1505/SARS-CoV-2-COVID-19-PCR-Ct-Cutoff-Values-PDF -- 10-5-20


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    6 hours ago remove link

    Jon Rappoport (excellent blog) nails it in some of his recent posts.

    .

    "July 16, 2020, podcast, 'This Week in Virology': Tony Fauci makes a point of saying the PCR Covid test is useless and misleading when the test is run at '35 cycles or higher.' A positive result, indicating infection, cannot be accepted or believed.

    "Here, in techno-speak, is an excerpt from Fauci's key quote: ' If you get [perform the test at] a cycle threshold of 35 or more the chances of it being replication-competent [aka accurate] are miniscule you almost never can culture virus [detect a true positive result] from a 37 threshold cycle even 36 '

    "Too many cycles, and the test will turn up all sorts of irrelevant material that will be wrongly interpreted as relevant.

    "That's called a false positive.

    "What Fauci failed to say on the video is: the FDA, which authorizes the test for public use, recommends the test should be run up to 40 cycles. Not 35.

    "Therefore, all labs in the US that follow the FDA guideline are knowingly or unknowingly participating in fraud. Fraud on a monstrous level, because millions of Americans are being told they are infected with the virus on the basis of a false positive result, and

    "The total number of Covid cases in America -- which is based on the test -- is a gross falsity.

    "The lockdowns and other restraining measures are based on these fraudulent case numbers.

    play_arrow
    GenuineAmerican 3 hours ago

    Fauci has lied again the PCR maximum cycle for a accurate test results is 25 NOT 35. PCR is run, or should be run at 21-25 cycles everything else will give a false positive. Had a friend in Scottsdale MAYO. I had to go to this god-forsaken place to get him out. They were running the PCR at 42 cycles to keep him in the hospital because he had very, very good UNION insurance!! The health industries are all crooks, lying to people to get more money being paid to the orgainizations by the feds.

    BaNNeD oN THe RuN 7 hours ago

    IQ tests were always seriously flawed, just like the PCR test

    https://medium.com/incerto/iq-is-largely-a-pseudoscientific-swindle-f131c101ba39

    It does not measure creative or lateral thinking ability at all.

    I had scores that put me in the top 0.5% but I had no illusion that made me anything more than a good test taker.

    NatsarimAmericanoLion 6 hours ago

    Giorgio Palmas 21 hours ago

    U.S TOTAL DEATHS
    2015: 2,602,000
    2016: 2,744,248
    2017: 2,649,000
    2018: 2,839,205
    2019: 2,909,000
    According to usalivestats(dot)com, there are 2,486,700 so far this year. There could be a lag in reports, but I doubt enough to fulfill their doomsday claims. The CDC still admits only 6% of these "COVID" are without 2 or more comorbidities, so that's about 25,000 or so. This is a mild flu season. Here are the recent flu numbers:
    FLU DEATHS 2010's
    2010: 36,656
    2011: 12,447
    2012: 42,570
    2013: 37,930
    2014: 51,376
    2015: 22,705
    2016: 38,230
    2017: 61,099
    2018: 34,157

    choctaw charley 5 hours ago remove link

    so what's the purpose behind the bogus plandemic. In order to institute a one world plantation several things have to happen. Foremost is the sense of "nationhood". a nation can be thought of as modeled on the family unit. We look similar, we share religious beliefs, economic and political views and we have a common history which we take pride in. We trust rely on and help another. If you have half a brain you don't need me to describe how all these are under attack. So how does the plandemic play into this? Yesterday you neighbor was your neighbor. Today he is behind a mask because the government tells you that he is a threat to you and your family and you to his! The plandemic was used to to hugely expand the mail-in ballot fraud further driving in the wedge suspicion. Then there is this: when you get your covid test there will be a permanent file created with your name on it. It will contain your genetic code and the test result. this will become the social register that is all over Europe. Get a traffic ticket; late in making a payment; engage in disapproved political activity as I am doing at this moment? All these will find their way into your file and will in the future determine the rate you pay on your home mortgage whether you can be employed in a government job, what you have to endure to board a commercial aircraft etc. There is also a great likelihood that contained in the vaccine will be a tracking component. Consider also population segment most vulnerable to covid: older retired people drawing on an already bankrupt social security ponzi scheme. Hitler referred to these as "Useless Eaters". He had a system in place to rid society of these. Later these faciliries were expanded to include the Jewish population.

    flyonmywall 9 hours ago

    I've done lots of PCR in my life. If you have to do over 35 cycles to detect or amplify something, you're probably barking up the wrong tree or there is something wrong with your assay.

    Once you ramp up the cycles to past 35-40 cycles, you're just amplifying non-specific competing amplification products, of which there are always some.

    You could have the best designed primers in the world, there is always some random **** that happens to get amplified at high cycle counts.

    Zero-Hegemon 4 hours ago

    False positives are beneficial for obtaining COVID money and creating hysteria.

    KimAsa 9 hours ago (Edited)

    these psychopaths have redesignated the normal course of annual deaths from heart disease, and other common ailments that old people die from, to Covid 19, to create the illusion of a deadly pandemic. they claim to have isolated this virus out of one side of their mouth, out the the other side they claim it has mutated (how many times?) so can't produce proof that this virus even exists. and out of their ******* they claim to have developed a vaccine?

    this is and always has been about the vaccinating the public for free moral agency prevention.

    Ride_the_kali_yuga 9 hours ago

    Covid "tests" are an efficient way to feed the false pandemic narrative with nonsensical numbers of "contaminations". Masks are a mark of submission.

    africoman 9 hours ago

    Re-posting someone's comment from this article Here

    by John Wear, (retired) lawyer, accountant, and author.

    Excellent points, now let's threw a monkey wrench in it to the Operation Warp Speed play_arrow

    Schooey 6 hours ago

    Its all BS

    KimAsa 9 hours ago (Edited)

    these psychopaths have redesignated the normal course of annual deaths from heart disease, and other common ailments that old people die from, to Covid 19, to create the illusion of a deadly pandemic. they claim to have isolated this virus out of one side of their mouth, out the the other side they claim it has mutated (how many times?) so can't produce proof that this virus even exists. and out of their ******* they claim to have developed a vaccine?

    this is and always has been about the vaccinating the public for free moral agency prevention.

    Ms No 8 hours ago

    They actually murdered people with the lockdown too though. Knowingly and premeditated...certainly some of those were also declared covid.

    smacker 8 hours ago

    " this is and always has been about the vaccinating the public "

    Correct.

    That has become clear. What we are only now slowing learning is what the sinister motive is.

    kellys_eye 9 hours ago

    Is the test for Covid or Covid-19. Can it tell the difference? The 'normal' flu and influenza are both corona viruses and this is the 'high season' for such cases in the Northern hemisphere.

    Strangely (or not) the incidence of actual flu and influenza are suspiciously MUCH lower than they should be.

    Ergo - tests that prove 'positive' for Covid are likely either false OR reporting on the flu/influenza.

    The LIES keep mounting and mounting.

    Harry Tools 5 hours ago

    there is no pandemic

    RedNeckMother 3 hours ago

    I will add another: FDA: 40 recommendation for testing

    And let's not forget the comments by Fauci that if they're testing at 35 they're going to get a lot of false positives.

    There's an attorney in Ohio who has filed a FOI to obtain all the ct levels used by the labs testing in Ohio. It will be very interesting once that is revealed - I'm sure our governor already knows the answer. If I recall, the NYT itself did an article on this very topic awhile back and estimated that 90% of the positive results in CT and NY were bogus. And going from 40 to 35 I believe reduces positives by 63%.

    We're being played.

    MoreFreedom 5 hours ago remove link

    Dr. Martenson's videos are very good. He's clear.

    As for "the science" and scientists, we all make mistakes. If we didn't make mistakes, we wouldn't have scientists pointing out other scientist's mistakes. But it's not a question of whose science is correct, it's that science is no excuse for taking away peoples' liberty.

    SRV 7 hours ago

    The inventor of the test (Dr Kary Mullis) was very outspoken that it was NOT developed for human virus confirmation...he died of cancer just weeks before the first Covid cases (hmmmm).
    The test procedure was developed as a screening tool in lab research, and he won a Nobel Prize for it!

    It's in your face proof of the scam we're all being subjected to that almost no one ever questioned (brilliant move really)... ONE cycle above 35 (each cycle doubles the amplification) will explode the the false positives.

    And... if you have no symptoms you DO NOT have the virus (remember how much play the "asymptomatic" BS story got early on... another psyop). Notice how none of the athletes never get sick and are back in two weeks... yet it's never questioned by a soul paid to look the other way!

    smacker 9 hours ago

    " What is becoming more and more apparent is that the PCR test was not designed
    as a diagnostic tool for infection, and really cannot function as one without having
    a huge amount of false positives, period. "

    This is not knew and didn't need to become "more and more apparent".

    The inventor of the PCR test Kary Mullis is on video record stating it. Sadly his expert
    knowledge has been wilfully ignored by the political elites and countless talking heads
    and "experts" because it doesn't suit them and didn't fit their agenda.

    It's time to prepare the gallows and stock up with rope.

    smacker 7 hours ago remove link

    The PCR test is used precisely because it can be manipulated to produce as many "cases" as wanted.

    Just turn the dial up on "amplification cycles" and hey presto, you get as many positives as you want.

    The cases are not genuine cases but simply PCR positive tests, but are reported as "cases" and then
    "infections" by MSM who are "In On It".

    The idea is "FEAR Management" which allows draconian CovID rules like lockdowns and tiers and
    social distancing to be introduced which accustoms people to being managed and controlled.

    It then ramps up demand for vaccines which is the ultimate objective. Initially (or soon after), the
    vaccines will contain nano-technology - dust-chips - which will be used for surveillance and control.
    Some say they will also contain ingredients to render people infertile (ie population control).

    We are seeing in plain sight the biggest coup ever against mankind.

    It must be stopped.

    smacker 7 hours ago remove link

    The PCR test is used precisely because it can be manipulated to produce as many "cases" as wanted.

    Just turn the dial up on "amplification cycles" and hey presto, you get as many positives as you want.

    The cases are not genuine cases but simply PCR positive tests, but are reported as "cases" and then
    "infections" by MSM who are "In On It".

    The idea is "FEAR Management" which allows draconian CovID rules like lockdowns and tiers and
    social distancing to be introduced which accustoms people to being managed and controlled.

    It then ramps up demand for vaccines which is the ultimate objective. Initially (or soon after), the
    vaccines will contain nano-technology - dust-chips - which will be used for surveillance and control.
    Some say they will also contain ingredients to render people infertile (ie population control).

    We are seeing in plain sight the biggest coup ever against mankind.

    It must be stopped.


    4 hours ago

    [Dec 06, 2020] How dare you granny killer to question usefulness of PCR test

    Dec 06, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

    GenuineAmerican 3 hours ago

    Fauci has lied again the PCR maximum cycle for a accurate test results is 25 NOT 35. PCR is run, or should be run at 21-25 cycles everything else will give a false positive. Had a friend in Scottsdale MAYO. I had to go to this god-forsaken place to get him out. They were running the PCR at 42 cycles to keep him in the hospital because he had very, very good UNION insurance!! The health industries are all crooks, lying to people to get more money being paid to the orgainizations by the feds.

    NatsarimAmericanoLion 6 hours ago

    Giorgio Palmas 21 hours ago

    U.S TOTAL DEATHS
    2015: 2,602,000
    2016: 2,744,248
    2017: 2,649,000
    2018: 2,839,205
    2019: 2,909,000
    According to usalivestats(dot)com, there are 2,486,700 so far this year. There could be a lag in reports, but I doubt enough to fulfill their doomsday claims. The CDC still admits only 6% of these "COVID" are without 2 or more comorbidities, so that's about 25,000 or so. This is a mild flu season. Here are the recent flu numbers:
    FLU DEATHS 2010's
    2010: 36,656
    2011: 12,447
    2012: 42,570
    2013: 37,930
    2014: 51,376
    2015: 22,705
    2016: 38,230
    2017: 61,099
    2018: 34,157

    africoman 9 hours ago

    How dare you granny killer /sarc

    Frito 4 hours ago

    The past was erased, the erasure forgotten, the lie became truth.

    George Orwell - 1984

    [Dec 05, 2020] Mask are useful in closed spaces; a mask will catch some virus particles (and some bacteria and fungal spores), therefore it protects your health and that of people around you. The idea that opposing mask-wearing is somehow promoting "Freedom" is ridiculous.

    But in open spaces outside of densely packs crowds wearing of the mask is really ridiculous and opposing mask-wearing is somehow promoting "Freedom"
    Dec 05, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
    foolisholdman , Dec 3 2020 21:38 utc | 53

    EoinW | Dec 3 2020 19:06 utc | 22

    There are no excess deaths. People may be dying with Covid 19(using a faulty test how can anyone know?) but they are not dying of Covid 19.

    So why are the hospitals filling up?

    As to mask use: a mask will catch some virus particles (and some bacteria and fungal spores), therefore it protects your health and that of people around you. If everyone wears a mask there will be less diseases spread. (Less 'flu, fewer colds, less spread of TB.) Mask wearing is not lethal and not for ever. Stop the stupid bitching and wear one for the sake of other people if not for yourself!
    The idea that opposing mask-wearing is somehow promoting "Freedom" is ridiculous. The Chinese with their epidemic under control are vastly more free than we in the UK with our raging disease. E.g. the Chinese are free to not wear a mask if they feel like it.

    [Dec 05, 2020] The shotage of hospital beds capacity is being touted as the driver for lockdown. This is another great example of fear mongering by withholding the context.

    See also https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm Nothing spectacular; this is not a new black death
    Dec 05, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
    Nathan Mulcahy , Dec 3 2020 19:24 utc | 28

    dearth of hospital capacity is being touted as the driver for lockdown. This is another great example of fear mongering by withholding the context. At 6:27 minutes in this interview of Dr. Margaret Flowers by Chris Hedge, Dr. Flower points out that from 1975 to today, the population of USA has increased from 215 million to 331 million. Yet at the same time, the total number of hospital beds has decreased from 1,500,000 t0 925,000!!!
    https://www.rt.com/shows/on-contact/507334-covid19-america-health-crisis/

    When the population increased by 53% the hospital capacity decreased by 38%. Without this contextual information, no wonder that the population is so very afraid of the dangerous corona virus, that they are willing to allow the government to inject them with a concoction made by a new technology, whose long term effects are unknown, and even whose efficacy is questionable at best. It is questionable on multiple fronts. If I understand it correct, Pfizer measures efficacy by quantifying any reduction in symptoms (rather than immunity). Besides, the occurrence of covid-19 is being measured with an ill-defined test method (see here https://cormandrostenreview.com/report/).

    It is so easy to fool people who cannot think critically.

    (Disclaimer: I have nothing against traditional vaccines, which I take. I am also not saying that COvid-19 is harmless. Rather its dangers are being overblown. Especially overblown is the inherent virulence of the virus in comparison to other related parameters that ultimately cause death)


    cirsium , Dec 3 2020 22:09 utc | 60

    Like the flu, the common cold and the other corona viruses, we simply have to manage it, and hope it evolves into something a little less contagious over time.

    well said Blue Dotterel (38, Dec 3)

    @foolisholdman, 54
    Hospitals are always fill up during the winter respiratory virus season. SARS-CoV-2 is not the only respiratory virus in circulation at present.

    ptb , Dec 4 2020 1:22 utc | 101

    COVID

    European mortality data, week 49
    https://ibb.co/rx37PT3

    The yellow band is incomplete data, so still rising somewaht probably. Nevertheless, EU is coming out of it looking like the current flare up is about half as bad as the initial wave in the spring. This is WITH many weeks of reimposed restrictions.

    [Dec 05, 2020] Lockdown lead to atomization of labour

    Dec 05, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

    Jen , Dec 3 2020 22:56 utc | 76

    VK @ 24:

    "... Lockdowns as being inherently against the working class is a capitalist (liberal) falsification: if you pay them while they're kept safe in their homes, you'll have the best of the two worlds for the working class (being paid without working). This option is only an anathema for the middle class and the capitalist class - who can't imagine a world without the proletarians serving them ..."

    We all live in an interconnected world and middle class, capitalist class (whatever that's supposed to mean) and proletarians alike supply goods and services to one another. Money is the medium that facilitates such exchanges. It follows then that proletarians also serve one another and ditto for the other classes.

    If working classes are paid to stay in their homes, who then supplies their needs? In spite of Jeff Bozo's efforts and those of Elon Musk, not all transport is self-automating and robots in Amazon warehouses still need some human inputs to operate quickly and without hitches.

    One could also argue that working fulfils other, non-monetary needs. Karl Marx actually foresaw this when he wrote about anomie in capitalist systems of production, in which workers are denied control over their lives and the work they do by being denied any say in what they produce, how they produce it, the resources and environment needed to produce outputs, and maybe even whether they can be allowed to work at all.

    Lockdowns can be viewed as another method in which to deny people control over their work and work environments. People socialise at work and lockdowns may be a way to deny workers a place or a means to connect with others (and maybe to form unions). Is it any wonder then, that during lockdowns people's mental health has become an issue and public health experts became concerned at the possibility that such phenomena as suicide and domestic violence could increase?


    foolisholdman , Dec 3 2020 22:59 utc | 78

    foolisholdman | Dec 3 2020 22:21 utc | 68


    You can understand this from this quotation. It is the internal contradictions of the wesern capitalist system that is driving the changes we observe, not "pressure applied by China", which I would say is a myth.

    "The fundamental cause of the development of a thing is not external but internal: it lies in the contradictionariness within the thing. This internal contradiction exists in every single thing, hence its motion and development. Contradictionariness within a thing is the fundamental cause of its development, while its interrelations and interactions with other things are secondary causes."

    "It (Materialist dialectics) holds that external causes are the conditions of change and internal causes are the basis of change, and that external causes become operative through internal causes. In a suitable temperature an egg changes into a chicken, but no temperature can change a stone into a chicken, because each has a different basis."
    Mao Zedong. "On Contradiction" August 1937. Selected Works, Vol.1, p.315.

    Mark2 , Dec 3 2020 23:09 utc | 80

    Lockdowns are a medical protection to eradicate a contagious virus.
    The lock downs we have had are fake and we're designed to fail. For political reasons.
    The very people who complained 10 months ago, were responsible for them not working,
    10 months later those people are still complaining. They are the ones who have prolonged the contagion.
    They are to blame. That includes the polatians and duped public.
    It's deliberate !

    [Dec 01, 2020] Putting on a mask to drive in the car alone is like putting on a condom to go to bed alone and fall asleep.

    COVID-19 fears turned the vast majority of Americans into compliant sheep unable to think.
    Dec 01, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

    America's New Normal - Silent, Obedient Consent - Zero Hedge

    As we were driving to the park, I noticed a few bike riders on the side of the road wearing masks while biking. I thought to myself – WTF. That is completely idiotic. Then we began walking along the miles of trails. The park was moderately busy, but you passed someone every few minutes.

    Sadly, I would estimate that 80% of the people we passed on the trails were masked and fearful of us unmasked hooligans. I can only imagine their thoughts as they wondered why we were risking their lives by being so careless.

    I was disgusted by the lack of critical thought exhibited by these people. I might have understood if it was only people over 70 years old wearing the masks, but most of these people were young. They have virtually a zero risk of dying from this flu. They have virtually a zero risk of catching it on a walking trail at a State park. But, they obediently and silently do as they are told by their overlords.

    I am saddened by how easily the totalitarians have been able to use fear, propaganda, lies and misinformation to turn the vast majority of Americans into compliant sheep. It is so clear to me that this engineered flu panic is nothing more than another chapter in the scheme to enslave global populations under the thumb of global elitist billionaires who want to control us and enrich themselves.


    NotMyCircus 5 hours ago

    Everyday I see people alone in their cars wearing masks - there are very few people in the world who can think critically and use reasoning to understand the actual risks for COVID-19.

    99.63% of the people don't get it...

    StubbleJumper 4 hours ago

    Putting on a mask to drive in the car alone is like putting on a condom to go to bed alone and fall asleep.

    DamnSheeple 1 hour ago

    I just stare at them, honk and laugh.

    Omega Point 4 hours ago

    I agree, it really pisses me off seeing kids with masks. It is child abuse. Not only is it physically harming, it is doing psychological damage too. These kids will be afraid of their own shadow.

    Anyway, I'm getting a new t-shirt made that displays two children with masks on and the title "child abuse". I should get some interesting comments.

    diana_in_spain 4 hours ago remove link

    Parents telling their children to wear masks outside , it's beyond belief. We are truly doomed

    trailer park boys 4 hours ago

    Masks don't prevent. Masks don't minimize spread. Masks are unhealthy for the wearer.

    The whitecoat bureaucrats know this. It is not about science or health. It IS all about control.

    "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H.L. Mencken ay_arrow

    JUST THE FACTS 4 hours ago

    I dip my face diaper in cheap Vodka so its all wet looking

    before entering the supermarket.

    People get out of my way without being asked.

    fnfcst 1 hour ago (Edited)

    Right! If social distancing works, stay way the F* far away from me.

    sentido kumon 4 hours ago

    People have always been like this. They can not grasp philosophy, history, science or any other subject beyond eating and f'king. This whole covid hysteria has made that much obvious. Its likely that humans devolve and relinquish their brains since they have no use for it (other than eating and f'cking) and are just content being told.

    Omega Point 4 hours ago

    Perhaps the "elites" have a point. Too many useless eaters, breeders, and breathers.

    [Nov 23, 2020] There is evidence that asymptomatic transmission DOES NOT occur:

    Nov 23, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

    Vasco da Gama , Nov 22 2020 22:51 utc | 58

    There is evidence that asymptomatic transmission DOES NOT occur :

    Post-lockdown SARS-CoV-2 nucleic acid screening in nearly ten million residents of Wuhan, China

    Stringent COVID-19 control measures were imposed in Wuhan between January 23 and April 8, 2020. Estimates of the prevalence of infection following the release of restrictions could inform post-lockdown pandemic management. Here, we describe a city-wide SARS-CoV-2 nucleic acid screening programme between May 14 and June 1, 2020 in Wuhan. All city residents aged six years or older were eligible and 9,899,828 (92.9%) participated. No new symptomatic cases and 300 asymptomatic cases (detection rate 0.303/10,000, 95% CI 0.270–0.339/10,000) were identified. There were no positive tests amongst 1,174 close contacts of asymptomatic cases. 107 of 34,424 previously recovered COVID-19 patients tested positive again (re-positive rate 0.31%, 95% CI 0.423–0.574%). The prevalence of SARS-CoV-2 infection in Wuhan was therefore very low five to eight weeks after the end of lockdown.
    my emphasis

    This study comes supporting early (June 2020) official statements by WHO where:

    We have a number of reports from countries who are doing very detailed contact tracing. They're following asymptomatic cases, they're following contacts and they're not finding secondary transmission onward. It's very rare and much of that is not published in the literature. From the papers that are published there's one that came out from Singapore looking at a long-term care facility. There are some household transmission studies where you follow individuals over time and you look at the proportion of those that transmit onwards.We are constantly looking at this data and we're trying to get more information from countries to truly answer this question. It still appears to be rare that an asymptomatic individual actually transmits onward.
    ( my emphasis ) COVID-19 daily press briefing 08 June 2020 (~33m24) - transcript

    There existing or not "asymptomatic transmission" is a key piece of information because there lies the fundamental justification for isolation measures imposed on asymptomatic individuals with positive rtPCR test results. Further, without asymptomatic transmission, general confinements can not be scientifically justified for the purposes of slowing down/flattening the curve as has been claimed .

    This recenters the pandemic response where it should be all along: properly diagnosed cases.

    It is very curious that no later than 24 hours, WHO, was backtracking on the original statements , letting us know that models [as opposed to actual epidemiological studies] suggest otherwise but since they were models they were not mentioned. I'll chalk that up as excess zeal at best.

    -------------------------------------------------------

    The supplementary material the study published in Nature was also revealing in terms of the rtPCR testing protocol, which employed, following Chinese National Guidelines, Ct values of ~35/34 (ORF and N genes respectively) on average. This arcs back to the question that has been haunting us, why are these tests being threshold at such high Ct values. In the Chinese case there appears to be an explanation. As the very title of the study mentions, these are tests made for screening purposes not diagnostic .

    The following is very enlightening, contrast the following case definitions:

    The European Case definition for coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), as of 29 May 2020

    (...)

    Diagnostic imaging criteria

    Radiological evidence showing lesions compatible with COVID-19

    Laboratory criteria

    Detection of SARS-CoV-2 nucleic acid in a clinical specimen [2] [rtPCR test]

    (...)

    Case classification


    1. Possible case: Any person meeting the clinical criteria
    2. Probable case:
      Any person meeting the clinical criteria with an epidemiological link
      OR
      Any person meeting the diagnostic criteria
    3. Confirmed case: Any person meeting the laboratory criteria [see above]


    my emphasis
    -------------------------------------------------------

    The Chinese Diagnosis and definition of confirmed cases with COVID-19

    Mild case The clinical symptoms are mild and no pneumonia manifestations can be found in imaging .

    Moderate case
    Patients have symptoms such as fever and respiratory tract symptoms etc., and pneumonia manifestations can be seen in imaging .

    Severe case
    Patients who meet any of the following criteria: dyspnea or respiratory rate ≥30 breaths/min; oxygen saturation ≤93% at a rest state; arterial partial pressure of oxygen (PaO2)/oxygen concentration (FiO2) ≤300 mmHg. Patients with >50% lesions progression within 24 to 48 hours in lung imaging should be treated as severe cases.

    Critical case
    Patients who meet any of the following criteria: occurrence of respiratory failure requiring mechanical ventilation; presence of shock; other organ failure that requires monitoring and treatment in the Intensive Care Unit.[at this severity they apparently dispense with imaging]

    Clinically-diagnosed cases
    The clinically-diagnosed cases were only allowed for the cases in the Hubei Province for the period of February 9 to 19 based on the 5th edition of the Scheme released by the National Health Commission of China released on February 8 and abolished on February 19. A presumptive case was defined as meeting the following criteria: (1) recent travel history to Wuhan City or Hubei Province; or close contact with a confirmed or probable case; or cluster transmission; (2) fever and/or respiratory symptoms; (3) laboratory evidence of normal or decreased number of leukocytes and/or lymphopenia. Those presumptive cases with further radiographic evidence showing pneumonia but without a positive RT-PCR test result were defined as clinically-diagnosed cases .


    my emphasis
    -------------------------------------------------------

    The take away: The Chinese rely on radiological imaging to confirm COVID-19 cases NOT on rtPCR tests which they limit for screening purposes, as opposed to the European which use radiological imaging to define a probable case and rtPCR testing to confirm. The Chinese rely on a tried and tested method for confirming diagnostic and the European rely fallible method generaly used for screening to confirm diagnostic .

    This is absolutely absurd!

    [Nov 18, 2020] Everybody Knows the Fight was Fixed OffGuardian

    Nov 18, 2020 | off-guardian.org

    Jodie Nov 16, 2020 11:38 PM

    Wim Hof: "Afraid of corona? Fuck off!

    You are not afraid of the corona virus?

    "Afraid of corona? Fuck off! By the way, I think I've already had it. I am never sick, but last February I had a good few days. My wife too. Not that I was sick in bed or anything, because I'm too busy for that. In nature you don't have time to be sick either. There you rely on your immune system. That's your best friend. If you take good care of it, it will take good care of you. You really don't need a vaccine for that. That's why this is so important. This book, the movie, everything. Everyone should know this! "

    Your method would also work wonders for your immune system. Does it also help against corona?

    "Sure. And they aren't miracles, are they? We already scientifically demonstrated this in 2014. Back then it was about the E. coli bacteria, but the damage it causes to humans is basically the same as that of coronaviruses. It causes chronic inflammation in the lungs. Look, you shouldn't wait until you're on a stretcher on your way to intensive care, then it's too late. A house that is ablaze cannot be saved. But at an earlier stage, the Wim Hof ​​Method is much stronger than the corona virus. In fact, if everyone were to apply the method, such a lockdown would be totally unnecessary. And masks, and five feet away, and all that other nonsense. Stop it anyway. Vaccines, money, power, that's the disease! The answer is just in yourself. "

    https://panorama.nl/artikel/311037/wim-hof-bang-voor-corona-fuck-off

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4oLzgXTyaA

    DENMARK: 9 days of protests over a new law that "would be able to define groups of people who must be vaccinated. People who refuse the above can be coerced through physical detainment, with police allowed to assist."

    https://twitter.com/robinmonotti/status/1328035491887915009

    Covid accounts for less than half of last month's excess deaths

    Covid-19 justifies less than half of last month's excess deaths compared to the average of the last five years, the National Statistics Institute (INE) revealed on 13 November in its latest analysis of mortality in Portugal.

    The preliminary data revealed, indicate that "46.5 percent of the increase in deaths between 5 October and 1 November compared to the average of the last five years was due to deaths by Covid-19": of the 1,132 above-average deaths in that period, 526 were attributed to Covid-19.

    The disease caused by the new coronavirus caused less than a third (29.3 percent) of the 8,686 deaths that are above the average of the last five years, between 2 March and 1 November.

    https://www.theportugalnews.com/news/2020-11-15/covid-accounts-for-less-than-half-of-last-months-excess-deaths/56725 4 0 Reply


    Schmitz Katze , Nov 17, 2020 1:34 AM Reply to Jodie

    Wim Hof: "Afraid of corona? Fuck off!
    STOP CORONA DICTATUUR NU!

    Kalen , Nov 16, 2020 8:20 PM Reply to George Mc

    MRNA technology is untested and its inoculation and immunogenicity model unproven so far. The mechanism of immuno-response to mRNA vaccine itself as well as side effects of cell development largely unknown, possibly facilitating enhanced autoimmune response. And that are general questions about technology not specific to COVID.

    Regarding SC2/COVID vaccine: They published nothing but headlies to blatantly bump the stock prices and dump their own shares. I checked everywhere no details. I will wait for paper in NEJM or BJM about phase 3 results as they published in July about result of phase 2 with 50% of severe to moderate side effects after second inoculation.

    Pfizer and Moderna have already been paid. So they have to hype junk they vomit.

    Moneycircus , Nov 16, 2020 5:37 PM

    UK Column News – 16th November 2020
    PART ONE

    "When good science is suppressed by the medical-political complex, people die."

    THE BRITISH MEDICAL JOURNAL TAKES STAND ON POLITICIZED SCIENCE
    Covid-19: politicisation, "corruption," and suppression of science , BMJ, Nov 13, 2020.

    "Politicisation of science was enthusiastically deployed by some of history's worst autocrats and dictators, and it is now regrettably commonplace in democracies.20 The medical-political complex tends towards suppression of science to aggrandise and enrich those in power. And, as the powerful become more successful, richer, and further intoxicated with power, the inconvenient truths of science are suppressed. When good science is suppressed, people die."

    Read full article here: https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4425

    CENSORSHIP AND THE SECURITY OF THE PEOPLE
    Kier Starmer, Chief Tory Whip on the Labour Bench:
    "The challenge is how we get ready for the vaccine a logistical operation probably larger than we've seen since WW2." He then launches into military language: "The government must be quick, decisive and effective so we can give the British people the security that they need."

    Labour's culture secretary Jo Stevens complains gov does not censor online platforms enough. She says Labour has been warning the gov for years against vaccine skeptics.

    THE RECENT HISTORY OF UK CENSORSHIP
    In reality the "disinformation" strategy does not come from Labour:

    In 2014 David Cameron, then PM, called at UN for regulation of the Internet. In 2017 Amber Rudd, then Home Secretary, interviewed Big Tech about counterterrorism and "hate". Google News Lab, Poynter Inst, and George Soros-backed fact checkers began to delist sites from search, including UKC and 21st Century Wire. 2018 Theresa May, then PM, formed Rapid Response "fake news units" in Cabinet Office, Foreign Office, Culture Dept, "using cutting edge software to work round the clock to monitor online breaking news stories and social media discussion." The Rapid Response Unit's chief, Alex Aiken,in 2018 gave examples of "concern" regarding social media posts on chemical weapons attacks in Syria, and the NHS and crime. 2019 Online Harms White Paper consultation completed by July. No overt action but covert activity has blossomed through 77th Brigade, 13th Signals Reg, etc. Sep 2019 BoJo spoke the the UN, with great foresight choosing to focus on vaccine "disinformation". Center for Countering Digital Hate (UK site, US spelling) identifies anti-vac as a worry.

    HOSPITAL IGNORES GOV ADVICE ON MASK
    Axminster Hospital, Northern Devon Healthcare Trust, makes up rules against 93 y/o man.
    Nephew refused entry with his 93-y/o uncle because he was not wearing mask, for which nephew had an exception. Hospital demanded he wear a lanyard and complete tracing forms. Pressure alarmed his uncle, causing unnecessary risk to health.
    Bus driver had previously refused to let 93 y/o aboard bus because he forgot mask.

    UKC: Beliefs have become law. We don't have laws. We don't have evidence and facts. Instead people are being turned against each other.

    ADVERSE DRUG REACTIONS (ADR) TO COVID-19 VACCINE – MHRA PROCURES ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE SOFTWARE
    Further information: this is not a tender, it's a done deal.
    UKC viewer points out this is a contract award notice, agreed in advance, with the notice published to satisfy public procurement regulations.
    GBP 1.5 million contract awarded to Genpact UK

    Genpact UK slogan: Adapt and rise: building resilience for communities, people and businesses.
    It says its activities include: supply chain, leasing, mortgages and loans, on boarding, property, claims and underwriting, trade shows, credit risk management.
    UKC: looks like an enforcement agency.

    MHRA told UKC that EU tenders are visible in UK, thus not advertised locally. What is meant by expected high volume of adverse reactions to the Covid vaccine? MHRA replied:

    "A number of previous vaccination campaigns have been considered in order to derive estimates of ADR volumes in a forthcoming vaccination campaign Actual numbers of reports will be dependent on the number of doses administered and the use of concurrent treatments (for instance to manage fevers). Our past experience with other new immunization campaigns is that we tend to receive around one yellow card per 1,000 doses. Most ADRs are short term It is important to not that a report of a suspected side effect is not poof that the vaccine cause it, but a suspicion by the reporter that the vaccine may have caused the side effect."

    At the time of its tender award MHRA said its legacy systems could not handle the anticipated volume of Adverse Drug Reactions.

    UKC: MHRA's answer is not consistent with earlier statements.

    Mike Robinson: If as MHRA says the adverse reactions are 1 in 1,000 why would you need artificial intelligence. A simple database would suffice.
    David Scott : the level of adverse reaction must be enormous. The government must be asking how many casualties there will be.

    Brian Gerrish: People should know they can sue the Pharma companies. The government says they are not liable but under common law the people within those companies who knowingly implement mistakes are liable for their actions. The individual carries guilt for the crime.

    BBC Radio Four: "We don't know which vaccine will work. There are at least three vaccines. People may have to take more than one vaccine at different times to build up immunity."

    REMINDER: CHILD VACCINATIONS COULD BECOME COMPULSORY
    Metro: Sep 2019: Children could be forced to have compulsory vaccination under Government plans
    Health Secretary Matt Hancock says children could be forced to have compulsory vaccinations. Speaking at a fringe event at the Conservative Party conference in Manchester, in Sep 2019, he said parents must 'take responsibility' over the issue.

    "We need a massive drive to get these vaccination rates back up I said before that we should be open minded and frank, what I'd say is that when we – the state – provide services to people, then it's a two-way street, you have got to take your responsibilities too.

    So I think there is a very strong argument for having compulsory vaccinations for children when they go to school because otherwise they are putting other children at risk.'

    Now, you have got to make sure the system would work, because some children can't be vaccinated and some may hold very strong religious convictions that you would want to take into account.

    But, frankly, the proportion of people in either of those two categories is tiny compared to the 7 per cent or 8 per cent now who don't get vaccinated.'"

    UKC: Do you see what he is omitting: free will and rational judgement. You can have a religious or medical exception or you have to comply. Or no education for you.

    POLICE SWOOP ON BAPTISM
    Police officers stop evangelical church from holding baptism service attended by 30 worshipers for breaching lockdown restrictions.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8951003/Police-officers-stop-evangelical-church-holding-baptism-service-attended-30-worshippers.html
    – Two police vans and police car parked outside church's Mount Zion Hall building
    – Lead pastor Regan King, 28, said he wanted to hold the baptism in defiance of the restrictions because it 'served a greater good'.

    "Although tyranny may successfully rule over foreign peoples, it can stay in power only if it destroys first of all the national institutions of its own people."
    -- Hannah Arendt

    [Nov 18, 2020] Back in medieval times, the folk believed in Satan and witchcraft. It wouldn't have taken much to start off a panic about a demonic force threatening a community and plenty of people would be willing to vouch for sinister sightings

    The virus continues to evolve. The vaccine needs approval from regulators - and they, supposedly, will only grant that if they're sure that the jab is safe and works well. Meanwhile, concerns have been raised that mutated forms of the virus might hamper the effectiveness of future vaccines.
    It comes after 12 people were found with a mink-related strain of the virus following an outbreak in Denmark.
    Notable quotes:
    "... When someone tests positive we say they tested positive for Covid-19, but that is [different from what is ] the disease, not the virus, which is Sars-CoV-2. That's the first problem. Secondly, it was termed new, when neither the disease nor the virus is new because coronaviruses have been with us forever. ..."
    "... When the number of cases falls below a certain level, you must stop testing . Because if you keep testing people who are not infected, you are going to get more false positives than positives. ..."
    "... Many labs in Germany were creating artifacts in the lab through poor procedures. They created a cluster of 60 people in Bavaria. On retesting it turned out 58 were clear. ..."
    "... The whole idea of an immunity passport is stupid. Even if vaccinated and you have antibodies, you can only be protected if the number of viruses is low. ..."
    "... Vaccines against coronaviruses are unlikely to work and could be dangerous -- especially if you put the gene of the virus into the body , supposedly to make your cells produce the characteristics of the virus against which the antibodies are supposed to act. ..."
    "... These vaccines will create waste products and now the killer lymphocytes may start attacking healthy cells. I cannot prove this has happened but so many vaccines trials have had such serious side effects, pains, swelling, fever, muscle ache. The Astra Zeneca trial had to change its protocols before continuing which is not allowed. ..."
    "... Then transverse myelitis emerged. There are reasons to suspect that the killer lymphocytes may have been triggered into an autoimmune attack. ..."
    "... How are they going to prove a virus is effective? If you are under 70 your chance of dying from this virus is minuscule. If you are losing 5 out of 10,000 lives how are you going to show that a vaccine saves lives? It's not statistically significant. ..."
    "... As for lockdown, they are killing people who are not diagnosed for cancer, heart disease, from depression, from suicide, and economic depression that causes poverty. They are killing far more than they save. ..."
    "... If I was a "Conspiracy Theorist" I would wonder: is the mRNA vaccine is intended to weaken the immunity response? Because that is clearly a risk. ..."
    "... "a country where loneliness is widespread .. Americans prefer myths that induce them to act out of habit so they can lose themselves in the group." ..."
    "... The author here might be breaking the neoliberal convention of not describing people who live alone in terms other than 'Independent', 'Confident' and 'Emotionally Intelligent' ..."
    "... I commute for 3 hrs a day for work, at rush hour in a total of 6 busses full packed with the masked herd. Mine lets my nose uncovered 6 months of this got tested for work last week.. tested NEGATIVE there you go with your highly contagious deadly disease. ..."
    Nov 18, 2020 | off-guardian.org

    Back in medieval times, the folk believed in Satan and witchcraft. It wouldn't have taken much to start off a panic about a demonic force threatening a community and plenty of people would be willing to vouch for sinister sightings.

    All of this could go on till the local priest decided it was alright to return to normal. Since he was in direct communion with God, he was the one with the credentials to determine when things were safe again. Now we have this:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/health-54949799 "Covid-19: Normal life back next winter, says vaccine creator

    The impact of a new Covid vaccine will kick in significantly over summer and life should be back to normal by next winter, one of its creators has said."

    Prof Ugur Sahin, BioNTech co-founder, says,

    "I'm very confident that transmission between people will be reduced by such a highly effective vaccine – maybe not 90% but maybe 50% – but we should not forget that even that could result in a dramatic reduction of the pandemic spread"

    Just tell us when it's safe, Professor. We'll believe you!


    Howard , Nov 16, 2020 10:17 PM Reply to George Mc

    Here's an article from Global Research.ca about COVID vaccines which features BioNTech.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/what-not-said-pfizer-coronavirus-vaccine/5729461

    Moneycircus , Nov 16, 2020 12:41 PM

    "The time has come for homo sapiens to stand up and start becoming human again. This scare has led man to lose reason as he follows the pied piper's call and we are being led to the downfall of civilization.

    Stand up, take those masks off your face, grasp each other's hands again -- no more social distancing, what utter nonsense because of a virus that has been with us since the beginning of mankind -- and start singing. The sound of the human voice is the only thing which is going to halt this pied piper's madness."

    -- Prof. Sucharit Bhakdi

    Are We Being Told the Truth About COVID-19?, Nov, 11, 2020 | Prof. Sucharit Bhakdi is a Thai-German specialist in microbiology and co-author of Corona, False Alarm.

    https://www.youtube.com/embed/ZnpnBYgGARE?version=3&rel=1&fs=1&autohide=2&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&wmode=transparent

    Moneycircus , Nov 16, 2020 1:45 PM Reply to Moneycircus

    Prof. Sucharit Bhakdi (notes from interview Nov 11, 2020)

    When someone tests positive we say they tested positive for Covid-19, but that is [different from what is ] the disease, not the virus, which is Sars-CoV-2. That's the first problem. Secondly, it was termed new, when neither the disease nor the virus is new because coronaviruses have been with us forever.

    These viruses co-exist with us . Every few months they mutate so that my immune system will accept them, otherwise they would be recognized on the second visit and be shut out. So it is completely normal that the most successful viruses in the world, which keep the host alive, which don't want to kill us, change a little all the time.

    When the number of cases falls below a certain level, you must stop testing . Because if you keep testing people who are not infected, you are going to get more false positives than positives.

    Many labs in Germany were creating artifacts in the lab through poor procedures. They created a cluster of 60 people in Bavaria. On retesting it turned out 58 were clear.

    Scenario two is immunity. The science is very fuzzy. One arm is the antibody that catches the virus before it attaches to the cell but this antibody fights one-to-one. It is a matter of numbers. The number of antibodies can become exhausted before more virus comes along.

    The whole idea of an immunity passport is stupid. Even if vaccinated and you have antibodies, you can only be protected if the number of viruses is low.

    Also antibodies peak after you are immunized but with time they decline. Your immune system does not do work unless there is a purpose. After two or three months, even with the passport, you are not immune.

    Our old antibodies are partially effective against new coronaviruses . Once the new virus enters our cells, waste products of the virus sit on the outside of the cell. The immune system's second arm, the killer lymphocytes emerge.

    Lymphocytes spot the similarity of the new virus to the old and attack the cell. One killer lymphocyte can kill many viruses-infected cells.

    This is the body's natural defenses. This is why more than 90% of people who are infected already have background immunity. Several recent reports have suggested people do have these lymphocytes and even those who don't display them may have them 'waiting in the wings' in the lymph nodes.

    Vaccines against coronaviruses are unlikely to work and could be dangerous -- especially if you put the gene of the virus into the body , supposedly to make your cells produce the characteristics of the virus against which the antibodies are supposed to act.

    These vaccines will create waste products and now the killer lymphocytes may start attacking healthy cells. I cannot prove this has happened but so many vaccines trials have had such serious side effects, pains, swelling, fever, muscle ache. The Astra Zeneca trial had to change its protocols before continuing which is not allowed.

    Then transverse myelitis emerged. There are reasons to suspect that the killer lymphocytes may have been triggered into an autoimmune attack.

    Secondly, suppose you have successfully generated antibodies but you have also reawakened those killer lymphocytes , like a boxer, you are stronger and ready for the next fight. Now when the real virus comes along, and overcomes the few antibodies that exist, you have so many killer lymphocytes ready for battle that they overdo it.

    This would be immune response dependent enhancement which ends in an over-strong immune response.

    How are they going to prove a virus is effective? If you are under 70 your chance of dying from this virus is minuscule. If you are losing 5 out of 10,000 lives how are you going to show that a vaccine saves lives? It's not statistically significant.

    As for lockdown, they are killing people who are not diagnosed for cancer, heart disease, from depression, from suicide, and economic depression that causes poverty. They are killing far more than they save.

    Lawyers around the world are going to bring those people to justice. The first cases are currently being filed in Germany. I hope the right ones will be taken to court because what they are doing is criminal. It is not a matter of belief. We know people are dying around the world because of these lockdown measures. Millions of people are starving to death in India and other places.

    We should be taking about why and how has our society allowed these things to happen. How and why and we must get answer so this will never happen again.

    Moneycircus , Nov 16, 2020 1:59 PM Reply to Moneycircus

    If I was a "Conspiracy Theorist" I would wonder: is the mRNA vaccine is intended to weaken the immunity response? Because that is clearly a risk.

    Vaccine trials suggest it affects quite a few people's immune systems negatively. So if another virulent disease were to come along in the near future, those people weakened by the vaccine would be very vulnerable to a different virus . (see Francis Boyle). If Covid were a deadly threat the risk might be worth it. That does not seem to be the case.

    Even if not deliberate conspiracy -- Let's use Bill Gates' own logic: Pandemics are the greatest threat facing humanity , or the second after "climate" -- according to Gates himself.

    Why would you mess with the immune system of hundreds of millions of people?

    The proposal from Bill and Melinda is to give it to healthcare workers and the elderly first. Again, examine the logic. If the vaccine produces casualties, you would have just created a crisis in the state health system -- perhaps bringing it to its knees, while accelerating the cull of elderly.

    Isn't one of the proposals of the Big Tech mafia to end traditional healthcare and replace it with "digital health" via a screen ?

    Myall , Nov 16, 2020 11:49 AM

    "a country where loneliness is widespread .. Americans prefer myths that induce them to act out of habit so they can lose themselves in the group."

    The author here might be breaking the neoliberal convention of not describing people who live alone in terms other than 'Independent', 'Confident' and 'Emotionally Intelligent'

    George Mc , Nov 16, 2020 10:52 AM

    You will be pleased to hear that your commender in chief is providing such excellent guidance on the requisite behaviour:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54956076

    "It doesn't matter that we were all doing social distancing, it doesn't matter that I'm fit as a butcher's dog, feel great. And actually, it doesn't matter that I've had the disease and I'm bursting with antibodies. We've got to interrupt the spread of the disease and one of the ways we can do that now is by self-isolating for 14 days when contacted by Test and Trace."

    So, things that DON'T matter: doing social distancing being as fit as a butcher's dog feeling great having had the desease and bursting with antibodies

    You must still follow the rules for track and trace and you should still be scared shitless!

    wardropper , Nov 16, 2020 2:38 PM Reply to George Mc

    These are people whose brains don't work, and who like having brains that don't work. People to be avoided at all costs – and certainly not allowed to become Prime Ministers.

    I_left_the_left , Nov 18, 2020 1:54 PM Reply to wardropper

    Comrade Carrie appears to control Boris's brain. Greens won 2.7% of the popular vote, but she found a better way to get her fantasy policies adopted than respecting what the stupid plebs want.

    Arsebiscuits , Nov 16, 2020 3:22 PM Reply to George Mc

    Being as fit as a butchers dog doesn't make any sense. He's got the Biden dementia going on

    Theobalt , Nov 16, 2020 7:00 PM Reply to Arsebiscuits

    They have to be fitter than the chocolate maker's dog though

    Theobalt , Nov 16, 2020 6:57 PM Reply to George Mc

    I commute for 3 hrs a day for work, at rush hour in a total of 6 busses full packed with the masked herd. Mine lets my nose uncovered 6 months of this got tested for work last week.. tested NEGATIVE there you go with your highly contagious deadly disease.

    [Nov 18, 2020] This whole coronavirus thingy is becoming ridiculous. I don't think it's a complete fake but what we relly have is a new coronavirus which is slightly more dangerous than the flu, which kills practically only very old people with comorbidities

    Nov 18, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

    Micron , Nov 17 2020 11:47 utc | 102

    This whole coronavirus thingy is becoming ridiculous. I don't think it's a complete fake ; yes, there is coronavirus named COVID-19, yes it is highly contagious, yes it's a health hazard.

    But to sum it up, we have here a new coronavirus which is slightly more dangerous than the flu, which kills practically only very old people with comorbidities, with 99,98% chances (ok, 99,95% if you like) of surviving it. given these odds, I'll pass on the vaccine, thank you.

    From the beginning, the whole treatment of this thing stank to high heaven. I'm sorry, but the only meaningful explanation I can give is this one : big pharma and its various shills (politicians or doctors) recognized the opportunity such a virus would mean ; they then set out to systematically downplay or kill any possibility of cheap and effective treatments, and cleverly directed the firehose of dollars which was poured onto the laboratories developing a vaccine.

    Some facts :
    - in France, we had two large-scale studies, Discovery and Hycovid, which were started (very reluctantly) and were pratically forced to include HCQ+AZ in their panel.
    - In the weekend following publication of the fraudulent Lancet newspaper, our health minister ordered a full stop.
    - Since then, months have gone by; NOT ONE JOURNALIST has either 1) investigated who were the accomplices of the Lancet fraud 2) questioned why all national and international authorities reacted in lockstep 3) and most importantly WHY THE DECISIONS TO STOP THE STUDIES WERE NOT REVERSED following the Lancet's retractation.
    -In October, we learn that the EU Commission gave a cool 1 billion to buy remdesivir. ONE WEEK before the WHO study concluding on the ineffectiviness of remdesivir came out.

    I'm sorry, but this is becoming a little too much. One coincidence OK, but here we are talking about a string of improbable events, with NO ONE analyzing with a cool head what happened or reversing decisions that were taken based on obvious frauds.

    Three weeks ago, our president solemnly declared that our OR would be saturated in mid-November with 9000 people under respiratory assistance, no matter what we do. Well here were are, and the tally is 4.800. Not a good situation, but still only half ; and with nobody pointing out that every winter, our OR are saturated anyway due to the flu and the influenza.

    I think we should all grow up and do a more level-headed analysis of the pros and cons. The most ridiculous thing perhaps is to see all those politicos sanctimoniously declare the sanctity of life ; in a world where you can abort babies at your convenience, practices eugenics, and where euthanasy is aggressively pushed into the mainstream, this is perhaps the most hypocritical bullshit I have ever heard.


    DG , Nov 17 2020 12:15 utc | 104

    Fauci was promoting AZT as a safe cure for AIDS in the 90's. AZT was killing people. I lost many dear friends from AZT.

    Fauci is a fraud.

    Avid Lurker , Nov 17 2020 13:53 utc | 109

    @ dave at 115:

    False Positive Covid Tests Will Extend Unjustified Lockdowns, Fauci Admits 'Miniscule' Accuracy

    gm , Nov 17 2020 14:44 utc | 116

    @Posted by: Avid Lurker | Nov 17 2020 13:53 utc | 117

    Meh...Fauci is a political creature who has talked on both sides of his mouth on many $ubject$, and goes with the (money)flow as long as he can get away with it without reducing his credibility too much.

    I wonder if Fauci is *still* singing the praises of Gilead's remdesivir, that $3K per treatment apparent snake oil, according to critics:

    Dr. Eric Topol, vice president for research at Scripps Research sez:

    https://twitter.com/erictopol/status/1319395937018470400?lang=en

    and this,

    and this:

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/10/remdesivir-and-interferon-fall-flat-who-s-megastudy-covid-19-treatments

    Nevertheless the $3K per shot remdesivir just got *full* FDA approval, no doubt thanks in large part to High Priest Fauci's blessings and hosannas.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/22/fda-approves-remdesivir-coronavirus-431336

    Hausmeister , Nov 17 2020 15:06 utc | 119

    Most likely a game changer:
    Portugiese court rule against PCR-test
    Sorry, guys, this is a link to one of the best real-left Corona blogs, but in German language. In Portugal a court decided that a PCR-test cannot be accepted as a proof of a viral infection. Now think about its consequences!

    [Nov 09, 2020] 100s Of UK Medics And Academics Urge Boris Johnson- COVID Data Is -Exaggerated- And Second Wave Talk Is -Misleading- -

    Nov 09, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

    100s Of UK Medics And Academics Urge Boris Johnson: COVID Data Is "Exaggerated" And Second Wave Talk Is "Misleading"


    by Tyler Durden Mon, 11/09/2020 - 04:15 Twitter Facebook Reddit Email Print

    Almost 500 medics and academics have penned a letter to U.K. prime minister Boris Johnson - just hours after the U.S. election has been "decided" - informing him that official Covid data is being "exaggerated" and that talk of a second wave of Covid is "misleading".

    The letter was critical of the government's handling of the virus and said that the response to the pandemic has been "disproportionate" relative to the risk, according to the Daily Mail .

    The group claims that mass testing has "distorted the risk of the virus" , that the high numbers of tests are likely to be producing false positives, and that the infection and death rates need to be put into the context of normal seasonal rates.

    The group of scientists, medics and academics have also claimed that the U.K.'s second wave "has already peaked":

    Professor Tim Spector, who leads the Covid Symptom Study app aiming to track the spread of Covid-19 in the UK, confirmed that there were 'positive signs' the country has 'passed the peak of the second wave'.

    The letter is titled "First Do No Harm". It comes one day after the U.K. confirmed 24,957 positive tests, up 13.9% from the week prior's total. Immunologist Dr. Charlotte R Bell, pediatrician Dr. Rosamond Jones, and Keith Willison, Professor of Chemical Biology at Imperial College are among those who signed the letter.

    "The management of the crisis has become disproportionate and is now causing more harm than good," it says. "We urge policy-makers to remember that this pandemic, like all pandemics, will eventually pass but the social and psychological damage that it is causing risks becoming permanent."

    "After the initial justifiable response to Covid-19, the evidence base now shows a different picture," it continues.

    https://lockerdome.com/lad/13084989113709670?pubid=ld-dfp-ad-13084989113709670-0&pubo=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com&rid=www.zerohedge.com&width=890

    "The problem of functional false positive rates has still not been addressed and particularly in the context of low prevalence of disease whereby false positives are likely to exceed true positives substantially and moreover correlate poorly with the person being infectious. Alongside this we have the issue that it is normal to see an increase in illness and deaths during the winter months," the letter continues.

    Then, the group points out that the "second wave" may not be any different from a normal U.K. November: "It is notable that [the] UK death rate is currently sitting around average for this time of year. The use of the term 'second wave' is therefore misleading . We have the knowledge to enable a policy that protects the elderly and vulnerable without increasing all other health and economic harms and which is not at the expense our whole way of life and particularly that of the nation's children."

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    "The R rate of the coronavirus dropped in five regions of England this week - except London and the South East, where it did not change - and stayed stable at between 1.1 and 1.3 in England and the UK as a whole. Last week marked a drop from 1.2 to 1.4 the week before," the Daily Mail concluded.

    The letter was organized by a group called UsForThem, which opposes strong coronavirus restrictions.


    philipat , 5 hours ago

    It won't make any difference. They KNOW it is inconsistent with facts and makes no sense, which is precisely why they are doing it. It's part of the intended psychological grooming exercise. And it's simply what they are being instructed to do by the Puppet Masters. This David Icke video explains the process:

    https://davidicke.com/2020/11/06/david-icke-proof-that-covid-laws-are-the-systematic-demolition-of-the-human-psyche-please-share/

    kleptomistic , 1 hour ago

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Brazilian City Ravaged
    by Coronavirus
    Reached Herd Immunity
    in Just Months, Study Finds
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    >Blood donations suggest that up to half of Manaus was infected at the epidemic's peak

    >coronavirus...swept through with little to no measures in place to stop infection

    >No lockdown was implemented and no major steps were taken to limit the spread of the virus.


    Manaus Brazil
    >Population 2,182,763

    Ravaged By Corona-virus?

    >4.5 times as many deaths as expected for that time of year!

    Wow! Ok, how many people died?

    ""The researchers estimate close to 4,000 people died from COVID-19 in Manaus"

    WTH? Are you kidding me!

    4.5X = 4,000
    x = 888
    4,000 – 888 = 3,112


    So an extra 3,112 people, OUT OF 2,182,763, died AND YOU CALL THAT "RAVAGED"?

    HALF of the population infected and 99.86% of population survived....THAT'S RAVAGED!?


    Let me guess, half of the dead were at the end of their lives health wise, 70% were over 65 and the medical care for everyone in the people's Socialist Utopia of Manaus is chit?

    Note the source is freaking Newsweek...do they realize what they're printing. And Science News is big on "Climate Change" killing us all.


    https://www.newsweek.com/herd-immunity-manaus-brazil-coronavirus-1533840
    https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-covid-19-brazil-city-manaus-herd-immunity

    Jerrod , 1 hour ago

    Even the UK MSM has started to realise it's a politicalized issue now, they've screwed up the economy so much that if they unlock, everything will collapse, they have no choice but to continue furlough (UBI) and faux lockdowns until the whole thing implodes, alternatively they could admit it and take responsibility, but when do politicians do that...

    kleptomistic , 38 minutes ago

    Covid-19 in California

    November 8, 2020
    24 people died from Covid-19
    7 of them lived in a care facility.

    74% of California deaths are over age 65
    27% of deaths are in care facilities

    Population of 36,560,000

    ...in other news

    76 people died yesterday, in California, from "medical errors".

    https://covid19.ca.gov/state-dashboard/

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28186008/

    https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/SNFsCOVID_19.aspx

    Aloha_Snackbar , 5 hours ago

    These politicians will just keep locking everything down until there's a vaccine and you can't reason with them about it; it doesn't matter that lockdowns kill more people than the virus and it doesn't matter how effective it is for people to build up active immunity. It doesn't matter that masks cause serious health problems and weaken immunity despite being evidently ineffective at slowing the spread of Covid and influenza.

    The vaccine is coming and for many people it won't be voluntary. In America we have guns and so the task of trying to forcibly inoculate everyone is a bit more daunting.

    BStreetMan , 5 hours ago

    It's an RNA virus. Forget vaccines.

    Aloha_Snackbar , 4 hours ago

    There's gonna be a vaccine regardless even if it's ineffective at providing passive immunity. There's too much money involved for them not to create one for mass distribution.

    strych10 , 4 hours ago

    It's not just money.

    Politicians have a pathogical inability to admit they've ever been wrong. So much so that they'll knowing lie on video and then contradict that lie, again on video, the very next day. When asked about the contradiction they'll deny saying whichever thing is convenient to deny in the moment.

    They do it on the news literally every day.

    Chain Man , 3 hours ago

    The Globalist are out to destroy "Free Speech", not so hard for them to do on line but, the street is another thing. Covid- 19 is just the tool they need. Pubs and restaurants where locals come together has always been a area of cross communication. They want to keep people from organizing.

    I worry about them (Biden and Globalist) trying to use Covid-19 (low Death rate) as a Line of acceptable conditions for a lock down in the name of safety of life. Then they will lock us down for the flue if needed. It's all about keeping people from organizing (Free Speech.)

    [Nov 02, 2020] A significant number of countries (e.g. Austria, Denmark, Germany [partial, Hesse Berlin only], Greece, Hungary, Norway) never had any excess mortality problem.

    Nov 02, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

    ADKC , Nov 2 2020 3:28 utc | 76

    The European Mortality Monitoring Project (EUROMOMO) has been monitoring excess mortality in Europe since 2008 for the purpose of "detecting and measuring, on a real-time basis, excess number of deaths related to influenza and other possible public health threats across participating European Countries."

    EUROMOMO's key metric is called the "z-score". Briefly, z-scores remove differences due to seasons and populations so that they are directly comparable with different countries and different time periods. More details on z-scores:

    What is a z-score?

    The following link shows "z-scores by country":

    Z-scores by country

    The user can adjust the period sliders to examine any length of time between 2015 and 2020. For example, to examine the UK's z-scores for 2020 simply adjust the sliders to the range 2020-01 to end (currently 2020-42). The user will be able to see that while there was a problem with excess mortality for the period from 2020-12 to 2020-22 there has been no real problem since. Also, the user will notice that a significant number of countries (e.g. Austria, Denmark, Germany [partial, Hesse & Berlin only], Greece, Hungary, Norway) never had any excess mortality problem.

    [Oct 30, 2020] There's a clue to the mass psychology of the Covid Death Cult. The rhetoric is very familiar from forecasts of rising climate chaos, but with "Covid19" substituted for "climate".

    Oct 30, 2020 | www.unz.com

    Flying Dutchman , says: Website October 28, 2020 at 10:18 am GMT

    The World Economic Forum:

    "Far from settling into a 'new normal', we should expect a Covid19 domino effect, triggering further disruptions – positive as well as negative – over the decade ahead. "

    There's a clue to the mass psychology of the Covid Death Cult. The rhetoric is very familiar from forecasts of rising climate chaos, but with "Covid19" substituted for "climate".

    In spite of all the rhetoric about a "green economy" and a "Green New Deal", deep down everyone except the most idiotic right-believers in the climate-industrial movement know that the climate crisis cannot be solved within the framework of the economic civilization.

    Since no one wants to face the implications of this, the global technocratic elites waging the terror-lockdown assault which uses Covid as a pretext had the idea to include among their propaganda a substitution of "Covid", which everyone (wrongly) believes can be controlled and suppressed by system institutions (just as they wrongly believe it needs special control), for the uncontrollable Earth.

    In that way they hope to exorcise the demon of mass fear-itself over unsolvable resource limits and uncontrollable ecological blowback and collapse by redirecting this mass-psychological energy into belief in the Covid cult and enthusiastic faith in the governments and globalist entities struggling to preserve their power. It's a call to throw away all uncertainty, doubt, rational thought and immerse oneself in the terminal mass know-nothingism.

    Maskochism and hex spacing are designed to be constant day-to-day rituals reinforcing this brain-dead obedience and propitiatory mindset.

    [Oct 24, 2020] Effects of overhyping the threat are indirect: lifting stay-at-home orders and opening restaurants isn't enough: Until consumers feel safe, they're going to stay away.

    Oct 24, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

    Richard Steven Hack , Oct 22 2020 22:19 utc | 34

    Forget Shutdowns. It's 'Demand Shock' That's Killing Our Economy.

    ... A recent survey by research firm Datassentials, for instance, found that 58% of those surveyed described themselves as "uncomfortable" with dining indoors, and 36% described themselves as "very uncomfortable." Not surprisingly, then, no matter how creative restaurants get, traffic is still down sharply in most places, and 2.5 million restaurant workers who lost their jobs in April remain unemployed. Similarly, gyms have been open in most states for months now. But a recent survey of 5,000 gym-goers by RunRepeat found that 70% haven't returned and 43% said they had no plans to go back. Half a dozen gym chains have filed for bankruptcy in recent months, including 24 Hour Fitness, the owner of New York Sports Club, and Gold's Gym, with many of them permanently shuttering a majority of their locations...

    The point is that lifting stay-at-home orders and opening restaurants isn't enough: Until consumers feel safe, they're going to stay away.

    [Oct 24, 2020] People are dying at a significantly lower rate in 2020 then normal

    Oct 24, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

    Deltaeus , Oct 22 2020 20:22 utc | 20

    What do you make of the latest mortality figures?
    USA http://www.null4.net/usa-mortality.png
    France http://www.null4.net/fr-mortality.png

    Source: https://www.mortality.org/


    ptb , Oct 22 2020 21:11 utc | 23

    @20
    fewer car accidents

    Deltaeus , Oct 22 2020 21:30 utc | 28

    ptb @23
    Thanks for responding. That's a good falsifiable hypothesis - I'll try and investigate the data to see if it explains the fact that people are dying in the US at a significantly lower rate than normal. If I can find the data, I'll report back.

    When I look at the charts, I see an epidemic that's over, but I'm willing to be convinced there is something else going on.

    ptb , Oct 22 2020 22:59 utc | 37

    @Deltaeus 28,29

    Thanks for looking that up, was curious about that actually.

    The 5-10% dip below the baseline is certainly a tantalizing clue to something ... Maybe the extreme precautions taken around hospitals and nursing homes simply mean the elderly are getting other infectious diseases less often.

    As for epidemic being over in the US, the serious-symptomatic hospitalization stats say otherwise. I'd take the baseline mortality level as a sign that treatment has drastically improved, combined with the 70+ age group now being much more isolated and thus protected, if often miserable.

    I.e. mask use is common enough in urban areas that it is working for those at risk of dying who take it super seriously, but not enough to stop the infections for everyone else.

    Deltaeus , Oct 22 2020 21:46 utc | 29

    Traffic fatalities down 2% despite miles travelled being down by 16%. So a 2% reduction in traffic deaths, which itself is only 2% of deaths from all causes.
    There must be something else driving the total mortality down lower than normal.

    Source: https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/813004

    A statistical projection of traffic fatalities for the first half of 2020 shows that an estimated 16,650 people died in motor vehicle traffic crashes. This represents a decrease of 2 percent as compared to the 16,988 fatalities reported to have occurred in the first half of 2019
    Preliminary data reported by the Federal Highway Administration (FHWA) shows that vehicle miles traveled (VMT) in the first 6 months of 2020 decreased by about 264.2 billion miles, or about a 16.6-percent decrease.

    [Oct 20, 2020] Does America Have A COVID Problem Or An Obesity Problem

    Highly recommended!
    Covid-19 essentially revealed the sad truth.
    Oct 20, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

    While we have previously reported - and by now it is common knowledge - that Covid-19 usually kills only the very old with virtually no deaths in the 45 and under category and most deaths in the 75 and over category.

    Indeed, as Deutsche Bank's Jim Reid noted when discussing the average age of fatalities from Covid, "it is remarkably consistent around the 80-82 year old mark."

    Then overnight, Bloomberg's John Authers pointed out how startling this mortality rate varies from country to country, when referencing another chart from Jim Reid:

    As Authers writes, "The U.S. is a remarkable outlier. How can that possibly be?"

    According to Reid, a small part of this might be down to many of the other countries having an older population. For example, Italy's median age is 45 (43 in Europe), whereas it is 38 for the US.

    However, another explanation offered by the Bloomberg commentator, which feeds into the political debate of the moment, "is that all the other developed countries on this chart have some form of universal state-provided healthcare." But rather than get embroiled in that debate, Authers instead looks at the normal average age of people when they die. The following is a chart of life expectancy (in years) at birth for all the members of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development:

    As shown in the chart above, the U.S. - which as we discussed last week is turning into a banana republic with just a 50% share of the population in middle-income households, roughly the same category as Turkey, China and, drumroll, Russia - has lower life expectancy than the Czech Republic or Chile, and is lagged only by countries that are significantly poorer. It trails the other major economies by several years, in many cases roughly equal to the gap in the age at which Covid-19 victims die.

    https://lockerdome.com/lad/13084989113709670?pubid=ld-dfp-ad-13084989113709670-0&pubo=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com&rid=www.zerohedge.com&width=890

    According to Authers, instead of focusing on Covid, "it might make sense for the U.S. healthcare debate to revolve around treating this as a national disgrace and trying to make common cause over fixing it, rather than having an arid political argument, but I digress."

    Which brings us to the topic at hand, namely does America have a covid problem, or is it just an extension of America's far more serious problem of obesity. To wit, tne of its greatest life-shortening effects is diabetes. Here are the most recent OECD numbers on diabetes prevalence:

    As Authers observes, "the U.S. lags behind only the much poorer nations of Turkey and Mexico in this dismal category, and has more than double the diabetes prevalence of the main developed economies of Europe", and summarizes:

    Once the country has finished tearing itself apart over the pandemic, which will probably only happen once the virus has finally gone away, a new debate over diabetes and obesity will be necessary. Let's hope it can be more constructive than the current one.

    The numbers also shed light on why the US has had a relatively difficult time containing the pandemic according to the Bloomberg author, and also suggests that a "Swedish" model of "focused protection" for those most vulnerable could be harder to apply to the US, because a far higher proportion of obese Americans are at risk. In other words,"allowing most of the population to return to life as normal is going to require confining a lot of people to their homes for the duration -- judging by the diabetes numbers, maybe twice as many as in Sweden, as a proportion of the population. As Authers puts it " that isn't feasible. "

    Of course, concerns about the obesity epidemic - and not just in the U.S. - are nothing new, and we have covered them for much of the past decade . Additionally, the attempt by investors to profit from obesity is also not new. Back in 2012, Bank of America published a report on "Globesity" which it described as one of three global mega-trends. As Authers reminds us, "it offered a list of 50 stocks that it thought would benefit from a global fight on obesity, including some counterintuitive names such as Pepsico Inc. and Nestle SA, both of which it thought were better positioned to move toward less fattening products -- but which produce plenty of products, such as sugary drinks, that contribute to obesity."

    One year earlier, Solactive started an obesity index of smaller companies working in drugs and diagnostics connected to the issue -- primarily diabetes. Soon after, Janus Henderson launched an exchange-traded fund to track it, with the appropriate ticker symbol "SLIM." Then, in January of this year, the announcement was made that the ETF would be liquidated, an event that finally took place on March 12. As Authers writes, "that represented a missed opportunity" because this is how the obesity index has performed relative to the S&P 500 since inception

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    And here a remarkable statistic: the SLIMmers have done even better than the FANGs since the market bottom, meaning that bets on America getting fatter are even more profitable than betting on the giga-caps.

    That said, as Authers notes judging by the valuations of the obesity index at present, the short-term opportunity may have passed. It trades at an insane P/E ratio of 94.66x, (which "drops" to 30.4 if one excludes the non-profitable companies). For the longer term, however, the lesson according to Authers that all countries should learn from the dreadful experience of the U.S. over the last eight months is that any given health emergency grows that much worse if you are overweight.

    In summary, " it's too late to help in the battle against Covid-19, and it's too late to profit from the smallest companies working in the fight against diabetes, but the world will have to combat obesity. In due course, capital will flow toward financing that fight. "


    [Oct 20, 2020] The Covidian Cult by C.J. Hopkins

    Oct 20, 2020 | www.unz.com

    One of the hallmarks of totalitarianism is mass conformity to a psychotic official narrative. Not a regular official narrative, like the "Cold War" or the "War on Terror" narratives. A totally delusional official narrative that has little or no connection to reality and that is contradicted by a preponderance of facts.

    Nazism and Stalinism are the classic examples, but the phenomenon is better observed in cults and other sub-cultural societal groups. Numerous examples will spring to mind: the Manson family, Jim Jones' People's Temple, the Church of Scientology, Heavens Gate, etc., each with its own psychotic official narrative: Helter Skelter, Christian Communism, Xenu and the Galactic Confederacy, and so on.

    Looking in from the dominant culture (or back through time in the case of the Nazis), the delusional nature of these official narratives is glaringly obvious to most rational people. What many people fail to understand is that to those who fall prey to them (whether individual cult members or entire totalitarian societies) such narratives do not register as psychotic. On the contrary, they feel entirely normal. Everything in their social "reality" reifies and reaffirms the narrative, and anything that challenges or contradicts it is perceived as an existential threat.

    These narratives are invariably paranoid, portraying the cult as threatened or persecuted by an evil enemy or antagonistic force which only unquestioning conformity to the cult's ideology can save its members from. It makes little difference whether this antagonist is mainstream culture, body thetans, counter-revolutionaries, Jews, or a virus. The point is not the identity of the enemy. The point is the atmosphere of paranoia and hysteria the official narrative generates, which keeps the cult members (or the society) compliant.

    In addition to being paranoid, these narratives are often internally inconsistent, illogical, and well, just completely ridiculous. This does not weaken them, as one might suspect. Actually, it increases their power, as it forces their adherents to attempt to reconcile their inconsistency and irrationality, and in many cases utter absurdity, in order to remain in good standing with the cult. Such reconciliation is of course impossible, and causes the cult members' minds to short circuit and abandon any semblance of critical thinking, which is precisely what the cult leader wants.

    Moreover, cult leaders will often radically change these narratives for no apparent reason, forcing their cult members to abruptly forswear (and often even denounce as "heresy") the beliefs they had previously been forced to profess, and behave as if they had never believed them, which causes their minds to further short circuit, until they eventually give up even trying to think rationally, and just mindlessly parrot whatever nonsensical gibberish the cult leader fills their heads with.

    Also, the cult leader's nonsensical gibberish is not as nonsensical as it may seem at first. Most of us, upon encountering such gibberish, assume that the cult leader is trying to communicate, and that something is very wrong with his brain. The cult leader isn't trying to communicate. He is trying to disorient and control the listener's mind. Listen to Charlie Manson "rapping." Not just to what he says, but how he says it . Note how he sprinkles bits of truth into his stream of free-associated nonsense, and his repetitive use of thought-terminating clichés, described by Robert J. Lifton as follows:

    "The language of the totalist environment is characterized by the thought-terminating cliché. The most far-reaching and complex of human problems are compressed into brief, highly selective, definitive-sounding phrases, easily memorized and easily expressed. They become the start and finish of any ideological analysis." -- Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism: : A Study of "Brainwashing" in China , 1961

    If all this sounds familiar, good. Because the same techniques that most cult leaders use to control the minds of the members of their cults are used by totalitarian systems to control the minds of entire societies: Milieu Control, Loaded Language, Sacred Science, Demand for Purity, and other standard mind-control techniques. It can happen to pretty much any society, just as anyone can fall prey to a cult, given the right set of circumstances.

    It is happening to most of our societies right now. An official narrative is being implemented. A totalitarian official narrative. A totally psychotic official narrative, no less delusional than that of the Nazis, or the Manson family, or any other cult.

    Most people cannot see that it is happening, for the simple reason that it is happening to them. They are literally unable to recognize it. The human mind is extremely resilient and inventive when it is pushed past its limits. Ask anyone who has struggled with psychosis or has taken too much LSD. We do not recognize when we are going insane. When reality falls apart completely, the mind will create a delusional narrative, which appears just as "real" as our normal reality, because even a delusion is better than the stark raving terror of utter chaos.

    This is what totalitarians and cult leaders count on, and exploit to implant their narratives in our minds, and why actual initiation rituals (as opposed to purely symbolic rituals) begin by attacking the subject's mind with terror, pain, physical exhaustion, psychedelic drugs, or some other means of obliterating the subject's perception of reality. Once that is achieved, and the subject's mind starts desperately trying to construct a new narrative to make sense out of the cognitive chaos and psychological trauma it is undergoing, it is relatively easy to "guide" that process and implant whatever narrative you want, assuming you have done your homework.

    And this is why so many people -- people who are able to easily recognize totalitarianism in cults and foreign countries -- cannot perceive the totalitarianism that is taking shape now, right in front of their faces (or, rather, right inside their minds). Nor can they perceive the delusional nature of the official "Covid-19" narrative, no more than those in Nazi Germany were able to perceive how completely delusional their official "master race" narrative was. Such people are neither ignorant nor stupid. They have been successfully initiated into a cult, which is essentially what totalitarianism is, albeit on a societal scale.

    Their initiation into the Covidian Cult began in January, when the medical authorities and corporate media turned on The Fear with projections of hundreds of millions of deaths and fake photos of people dropping dead in the streets . The psychological conditioning has continued for months. The global masses have been subjected to a constant stream of propaganda, manufactured hysteria, wild speculation, conflicting directives, exaggerations, lies, and tawdry theatrical effects. Lockdowns. Emergency field hospitals and morgues. The singing-dancing NHS staff. Death trucks. Overflowing ICUs. Dead Covid babies. Manipulated statistics. Goon squads. Masks. And all the rest of it.

    Eight months later, here we are. The Head of the Health Emergencies Program at the WHO has basically confirmed an IFR of 0.14% , approximately the same as the seasonal flu. And here are the latest survival rate estimates from the Center for Disease Control:

    The "science" argument is officially over. An increasing number of doctors and medical experts are breaking ranks and explaining how the current mass hysteria over "cases" (which now includes perfectly healthy people) is essentially meaningless propaganda, for example, in this segment on ARD , one of the big mainstream German TV channels.

    And then there is the existence of Sweden, and other countries which are not playing ball with the official Covid-19 narrative, which makes a mockery of the ongoing hysteria.

    I'm not going to go on debunking the narrative. The point is, the facts are all available. Not from "conspiracy theorist" websites. From mainstream outlets and medical experts. From the Center for Fucking Disease Control.

    Which does not matter in the least, not to the members of the Covidian Cult. Facts do not matter to totalitarians and cult members. What matters is loyalty to the cult or the party.

    Which means we have a serious problem, those of us to whom facts still matter, and who have been trying to use them to convince the Covidian cultists that they are wrong about the virus for going on eight months at this point.

    While it is crucial to continue reporting the facts and sharing them with as many people as possible -- which is becoming increasingly difficult due to the censorship of alternative and social media -- it is important to accept what we are up against. What we are up against is not a misunderstanding or a rational argument over scientific facts. It is a fanatical ideological movement. A global totalitarian movement the first of its kind in human history.

    It isn't national totalitarianism, because we're living in a global capitalist empire, which isn't ruled by nation-states, but rather, by supranational entities and the global capitalist system itself. And thus, the cult/culture paradigm has been inverted. Instead of the cult existing as an island within the dominant culture, the cult has become the dominant culture , and those of us who have not joined the cult have become the isolated islands within it.

    I wish I could be more optimistic, and maybe offer some sort of plan of action, but the only historical parallel I can think of is how Christianity "converted" the pagan world which doesn't really bode so well for us. While you're sitting at home during the "second wave" lockdowns, you might want to brush up on that history.


    alan kerns , says: October 13, 2020 at 8:34 pm GMT

    Maybe CJ deserves the benefit of the doubt as to whether this piece is intended to be a satirical exposé of "regular official narrative[s], like the "Cold War" or the "War on Terror" narratives" which normal people feel are "entirely normal. Everything in their social "reality" reifies and reaffirms the narrative, and anything that challenges or contradicts it is perceived as an existential threat."
    I smell the coming of Covid Museums any-every-where to "bear witness" to the dangers of pandemics so that "never again" can we allow another catastrophic Pandemic to happen. Glory be to "safe and effective" Vaccines for ever and ever; Amen!
    What a breath of fresh air is that German TV documentary linked to by CJ – a very thorough and rational and honest and succinct summary of the Covid Pandemic.

    Dr. Robert Morgan , says: October 13, 2020 at 10:30 pm GMT

    C.J. Hopkins: " the only historical parallel I can think of is how Christianity "converted" the pagan world which doesn't really bode so well for us."

    Yes, that's it. The death cult known as Christianity enveloped the Western world long ago. We've all been living in it all our lives, particularly Americans. Corpses come back to life? Of course they do. That's what everyone thinks. LOL. Jesus made things appear out of thin air? It must be true. And of course, it's necessary to die to attain eternal life. Jesus himself said so, and it's so plainly true the point hardly needs to be emphasized.

    But rather than attributing all of this to a totalitarian conspiracy, I attribute it to human nature. The truth is, the vast majority of people are unreasoning conformist assholes who enjoy inflicting their petty tyrannies on each other. The more nonsensical they are, the greater their pleasure. As Sartre so aptly put it, "L'enfer c'est les autres" -- Hell is other people. This death cult includes the innovation of mind control, which at the time was unique to Christianity.

    My current theory, admittedly speculative, is that the group mind of the West, as it careens to an apocalypse of world-ending proportions, is still deeply in the thrall of the Christian death cult. It wants to die, and is doing what it can to bring this about, because only when the world dies can the crucified rabbi return. Owing to the culture Christianity has spawned, even the so-called atheists have this expectation buried deep in their subconscious.

    obwandiyag , says: October 13, 2020 at 10:43 pm GMT

    Notice how our genius who is so smart he doesn't have to be a scientist to explain scientific data to us in a condescending manner doesn't mention permanent internal organ damage.

    What the statistics on permanent internal organ damage, guy with initials instead of a name?

    What, can't find the data? How could that be? I thought you were an epidemiological genius.

    [Oct 20, 2020] I've been wearing a hand painted [by me] , in large bright red letters:" COVID -19 IS A SCAM" , black tee-shirt and matching hand-painted mask, on a more or less daily basis for the last 8 weeks.

    Oct 20, 2020 | www.unz.com

    When the narrative is oversold people became cynical. That's the classic "Crying Wolf!" situation, repeated again and again. Excessive deaths stats does not support "COVID-19 as a new Black Death" narrative and that provide some funny situations alike with this shirt.

    While infection was dangerous and some suspect that it was result of "gain of function" experiments, the level of response was disproportional to the threat. It's like they stages "Covid-revolution" -- a drastic social change in the society, which affects the way we work, the way we communicate with each and the way we entertain each other in a very profound fashion.

    onebornfree , says: Website October 13, 2020 at 10:01 pm GMT

    Good news?

    I've been wearing a hand painted [by me] , in large bright red letters:" COVID -19 IS A SCAM" , black tee-shirt and matching hand-painted mask, on a more or less daily basis for the last 8 weeks. [The mask I only wear when I have to enter a store with an idiotic "masks are mandatory" policy.]

    To date, much to my surprise, 38 people have stopped me and said " I agree" or similar, and only 4 have said "you're wrong" or similar, [one large Australian male halfwit has been the only person threatening me with violence to date – he got really mad- I just gave him the finger and didn't argue- eventually he fucked off.

    Of the agreers, perhaps the most notable was a cop who was driving by me on a main road as I waited for a bus. He slowed to a stop and I thought "Oh-oh, what's he going to book me for, no mask?", then he lowered his passenger side window [he wasn't wearing a mask, as required locally], and said "I agree". I said "Huh?". He said "your shirt, I agree with the message". I was shocked and happy at the same time.

    My conclusion: there are many out there , [perhaps a majority?]who know that the whole thing is a scam, they just don't let everyone know. It's the silent majority phenomena all over again, perhaps.

    Regards, onebornfree

    [Oct 19, 2020] When does incompetence turn into a crime -- This is the question we should be asking as government fails again

    Oct 19, 2020 | independent.co.uk

    I was in Baghdad in 1998 during US airstrikes, watching missiles explode in great flashes of light as they hit their targets. There was some ineffectual anti-aircraft fire , the only result of which was pieces of shrapnel falling from the sky and making it dangerous to step outside the building we were in.

    To my surprise I saw a reporter, a friend of mine with long experience of war, crawling into the open to use a satellite phone that would not work inside. When he returned, I said to him that it must have been a very important phone call for him to take such a risk. He laughed bitterly, explaining that the reason for his call was that his paper in the US had demanded that he contact some distinguished "expert" in a think tank in Washington to ask him about the air attacks.

    Despite my friend being a highly informed eyewitness to the events he was describing, his editors insisted that he access the supposed expertise of the think tanker thousands of miles away. A more covert motive was probably to spread the blame if the reporter on the spot expressed criticism of the airstrikes.

    I recalled this story when watching Boris Johnson and his ministers interact with his medical and scientific experts, Chris Whitty and Sir Patrick Vallance, sometimes deferential, sometimes dismissive. Naivety and calculation are at work here. Politicians grappling with crises, be it a war or a pandemic , are frequently over-impressed by experts with the right bedside manner and a command of the technical jargon. They are less good, and the same applies to the media, in knowing if this apparent expertise has real practical value in averting some pressing danger. Often it does not. A doctor or an academic specialist may know a lot about how the virus operates inside the body, but have no idea and no experience of how to stop it spreading from person to person in an epidemic. This is quite a different skill.

    Politicians are feckless in choosing the right experts, in part because they may be out of their depth in a crisis. There is nothing wrong with this, so long as they plug into the expertise of somebody who really does know what to do and how to do it. Governments often pick the wrong expert out of simple ignorance and because he or she is there primarily to beef up the government's credibility and provide a scapegoat in case things go wrong.

    This strategy worked well enough from the government's point of view during the first lockdown in Britain, but it is now crashing in flames as the scientists refuse to provide political cover for failed policies.

    The manifesto of the mutiny is the Sage memo of 23 September, published this week, which recommended a circuit-breaking lockdown to prevent "a very large epidemic with catastrophic consequences". Rejection of this recommendation by the government understandably got all the headlines, but towards the end of the memo there is an extraordinary admission that is surely more important than the row about circuit-breaking measures and the different regional lockdowns. Watch more

    [Oct 19, 2020] COVID Is Not A -Categorically Different Danger- -

    Oct 19, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

    COVID Is Not A "Categorically Different Danger"


    by Tyler Durden Thu, 10/15/2020 - 17:40 Twitter Facebook Reddit Email Print

    Authored by Donald Boudreaux via The American Institute for Economic Research,

    Since March, the coronavirus has been treated as if it is a danger categorically different from other dangers , including other viruses. But this treatment is deeply mistaken. The coronavirus is not a categorically different danger. It occupies a location on the same spectrum that features other viruses. Reasonable people can and do debate just where this location is – that is, how much more dangerous is the coronavirus than are ordinary flu viruses and other 'novel' viruses that plagued us in the past. But the coronavirus is well within the same category as other viruses.

    Yet humanity has reacted – and continues to react – to the coronavirus as if it is a beast that differs from other health risks categorically. The hysterical overreaction by the press, public-health officials, and politicians – an overreaction undoubtedly supercharged by social media – has convinced many people that humanity is today being stalked by a venomous monster wholly unlike anything to which we are accustomed.

    Only by assuming that this virus differs fundamentally from other risks can governments continue to get away with unprecedented and arbitrary restrictions on peaceful human activities – restrictions on activities such as working at the factory or office, on dining out, on attending religious services, on going to school, and even on seeking medical treatments for non-Covid-related ailments. Only by being convinced that the coronavirus poses a threat categorically unique are ordinary men and women led to change their ways of living and interacting as fundamentally as many have done, and to tolerate the categorical change in governments' responses to epidemics.

    Quaking with fear that the angel of death lurks as never before in every stranger's breath, on every person's fingertips, and around every corner, people today treat each other categorically differently from how they treated each other until this past March. They leap frantically away from approaching strangers on sidewalks. They "meet" their co-workers only online. Neighbors no longer visit each other's homes, while those who still dare to chat outside stand far apart, as if each is about to morph any moment from a Dr. Jekyll into a Mr. Hyde. When they stage athletic events, the stands are filled not with human beings but with eerie cardboard cutouts.

    Other human beings are no longer treated as potential partners in productive social cooperation, whether for work or pleasure. Now regarded as meaty and mobile vials of unprecedented poison, other human beings are treated by so many of us in a way that differs categorically from how we treated them for centuries up until just a few months ago. "Social distancing" is undermining social cooperation – which means that it's undermining civilization itself.

    Is there any evidence to justify this categorical change in behavior?

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    My always wise friend and sometime co-author Lyle Albaugh has from the start understood that Covid, while certainly no nothingburger, is not remotely close to being the extraordinary monster that it has become in the popular mind . And so he's having the following information printed on business-card-sized notices:

    COVID-19 INFECTION SURVIVAL RATES (per CDC)

    Seasonal Flu Infection Survival Rate (for population as a whole): 99.90%

    This single slice of information should be sufficient to put Covid-19 in proper perspective. It makes plain that the risk that this disease poses to humanity as a whole does not differ categorically from the risk of seasonal flu – or, for that matter, from any of the many other perils that we humans routinely encounter. And because these figures show the estimated chances of survival of those who are infected with Covid, even for persons 70 years of age or older Covid obviously is not a categorically unique threat.

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    And yet, again, humanity has reacted to Covid in a manner categorically unique. It's as if a hornet rather than a honeybee found its way into our home, and so to protect ourselves from the somewhat-more-threatening invader we commenced to frantically scour every room of our home with a flamethrower.

    But I despair that the information shared by Lyle – or even the more extensive information shared by my courageous colleagues at AIER – will have any noticeable impact. Very many people today seem almost eager to be misled about the danger posed by Covid. Much of humanity today appears to perversely enjoy being duped into the irrational fear that any one of us, regardless of age or health, is at the mercy of a brutal beast categorically more lethal than is any other danger that we've ever confronted. I hope that my despair proves misguided.


    Locker up , 2 hours ago

    Does anybody remember the original plan? "Flatten the curve" so not to overwhelm the care facilities? This should be the only reason to take away people's regular routine and also to "Protect the most vulnerable". Most of the extra lock down crap was to destroy Trump's great economy so the Democratic Party would have one issue to vote for them. Shysters.

    adr , 2 hours ago

    There is no such thing as asymptomatic spread of a virus. A virus can not replicate by itself, since it is just a strand of errant RNA. It requires a host cell to replicate.

    If cells are not being actively infected, there can be no increase in viral load, so there is a complete and total impossibility of becoming infectious.

    If you aren't sick, you can't infect others.

    Eric Post , 2 hours ago

    Yes, you can. Look up Typhoid Mary and see. After her death her autopsy showed she was full of Typhoid but it did not harm her in anyway, yet she was able to spread it.

    zardov , 1 hour ago

    Typhoid is a bacterial infection, not a virus.

    Mtnrunnr , 2 hours ago

    Lockdown made sense for 2 weeks in NYC. This crap we are doing now is insane.

    househonky , 2 hours ago

    Wrong. Thousands died in NYC because doctors destroyed people's lungs with ventilators. It was murderous medical malpractice.

    I Write Code , 1 hour ago

    The original quite reasonable fear was that this was a weaponized or at least gain-of-function experiment that might have mortality far beyond the strength of mortal men. It turns out that, whatever the truth of its origin, in practice, by all the current evidence, it's a nasty bugger but does not kill any unprecedented number of people.

    This is quite an interesting experimental result, actually.

    The problem is Fauci, who actually sponsored this hideously dangerous work, never explained it that way to the public. Instead he repeatedly said, "WE HAVE NO IMMUNITY!", but he's also a moron, hasn't read a biology book in forty years, and had no idea what he was even talking about.

    So now, it sure seems that it's a nasty bugger but no more, but Our Elite Scientific Leaders cannot bring themselves to say it.

    pearlsbeforepigs , 1 hour ago

    The author is not comparing apples to apples. The ignorance is staggering, especially coming from ZeroHedge commentors who are normally pretty smart but regarding covid-19 they have let themselves be unscientifically influenced by politics. In actuality EVERYONE is guessing when it comes to covid-19 because we simply don't know what percentage of people have been infected. If we don't know that number then everything else that we postulate is just guessing based pretty much on nothing. It has turned into a ridiculous political debate instead of a health science discussion.

    Aetherwizard , 2 hours ago

    This article demonstrates a total lack of mathematical skills. Yes, the virus has been kept in check for the most part and the death rate is presently falling. Everyone who has worked on mitigation deserves credit for the success to date.

    Here we are in year number two. Flu season is just starting and the rapid spread of COVID-19 is ramping up. Last year, the virus started from just one person in China; this year the virus will be starting from millions of people all around the planet. The virus is not only being carried by humans, but it is literally spread all over the surface of the globe.

    Despite lockdowns and harsh measures, the virus still managed to infect over 38 million people from a single case, and killed over 1 million. And now this article is making it sound like the virus is benign and nothing to worry about.

    COVID-19 is highly contagious. It spreads even when people do not show symptoms of having the disease. We are going into the time of year when flu viruses easily spread; imagine how much easier it is for COVID-19 to spread. Even if the death rate remains low, the numbers of infected people will reach incredibly high numbers in the next six months. Nothing we can do will stop this disease right now.

    Hopefully, the medicines and equipment needed to treat people have been stocked up. But we also need uninfected health care workers to apply the medicine. Even if there is not a single lockdown anywhere, people will be getting sick in huge numbers and will not be able to pump our gas, sell us groceries, transport goods to stores, harvest the crops, process our food, and on and on. The magnitude of disease spread, deaths, and economic hardships will exceed anything we saw last Spring.

    And here we read Pollyanish articles telling the world that COVID-19 is a hoax and that there is nothing to worry about. The ignorance is staggering.

    dustinwind , 2 hours ago

    In the words of government covid is a "tremendous opportunity" created by a "crisis that shouldn't be wasted".

    Zeusky Babarusky , 28 minutes ago

    Seems as though Governor Chris Christie had a change of thinking relative to Covid-19. He did not get the easy pass Donald Trump got, if Trump did indeed have the virus. Christie says he did not take the proper precautions regarding the virus, and he paid a pretty big price for it. Why is it that those who have not contracted Covid-19 and experienced a bad ordeal with it, are the ones constantly parading out these articles downplaying the virus? My guess is they are idiots. Here's a link. You can read about Christie's change of mind regarding Covid-19.

    Chris Christie's Experience With Covid-19

    [Oct 15, 2020] Three scientists give their best advice on how to protect yourself from COVID-19

    Notable quotes:
    "... COVID-19 spreads mainly among people who are in close contact (within about 6 feet) for a prolonged period. ..."
    "... "Current data do not support long range aerosol transmission of SARS-CoV-2, such as seen with measles or tuberculosis. Short-range inhalation of aerosols is a possibility for COVID-19, as with many respiratory pathogens. However, this cannot easily be distinguished from 'droplet' transmission based on epidemiologic patterns. Short-range transmission is a possibility particularly in crowded medical wards and inadequately ventilated spaces ." ..."
    "... Kimberly A. Prather, PhD, Distinguished Chair in Atmospheric Chemistry, Scripps Institution of Oceanography, UC San Diego. ..."
    "... Linsey C Marr, PhD, Charles P. Lunsford Professor of Civil and Environmental Engineering, Virginia Tech. ..."
    "... Donald K Milton, MD, DrPH, Professor of Environment Health at The University of Maryland School of Public Health. ..."
    Oct 15, 2020 | www.cbsnews.com

    Right now, the CDC website does not acknowledge that aerosols typically spread SARS-CoV-2 beyond 6 feet, instead saying :

    " COVID-19 spreads mainly among people who are in close contact (within about 6 feet) for a prolonged period. Spread happens when an infected person coughs, sneezes or talks, and droplets from their mouth or nose are launched into the air and land in the mouths or noses of people nearby. The droplets can also be inhaled into the lungs."

    The site says that respiratory droplets can land on various surfaces, and people can become infected from touching those surfaces and then touching their eyes, nose or mouth. It goes on to say,

    "Current data do not support long range aerosol transmission of SARS-CoV-2, such as seen with measles or tuberculosis. Short-range inhalation of aerosols is a possibility for COVID-19, as with many respiratory pathogens. However, this cannot easily be distinguished from 'droplet' transmission based on epidemiologic patterns. Short-range transmission is a possibility particularly in crowded medical wards and inadequately ventilated spaces ."

    Confusion has surrounded the use of words like "aerosols" and "droplets" because they have not been consistently defined. And the word "airborne" takes on special meaning for infectious disease experts and public health officials because of the question of whether infection can be readily spread by "airborne transmission." If SARS-CoV-2 is readily spread by airborne transmission, then more stringent infection control measures would need to be adopted, as is done with airborne diseases such as measles and tuberculosis. But the CDC has told CBS News chief medical correspondent Dr. Jonathan LaPook that even if airborne spread is playing a role with SARS-CoV-2, the role does not appear to be nearly as important as with airborne infections like measles and tuberculosis.

    All this may sound like wonky scientific discussion that is deep in the weeds -- and it is -- but it has big implications as people try to figure out how to stay safe during the pandemic. Some pieces of advice are intuitively obvious: wear a mask, wash your hands, avoid crowds, keep your distance from others, outdoors is safer than indoors. But what about that "6 foot" rule for maintaining social distance? If the virus can travel indoors for distances greater than 6 feet, isn't it logical to wear a mask indoors whenever you are with people who are not part of your "pod" or "bubble?"

    Understanding the basic science behind how SARS-CoV-2 travels through the air should help give us strategies for staying safe. Unfortunately, there are still many open questions. For example, even if aerosols produced by an infected person can float across a room, and even if the aerosols contain some viable virus, how do we know how significant a role that possible mode of transmission is playing in the pandemic?


    Aerosols can be thought of as cigarette smoke. While they are most concentrated close to someone who has the infection, they can travel farther than 6 feet, linger, build up in the air and remain infectious for hours. As a consequence, to lessen the chance of inhaling this virus, it is vital to take all of the following steps:

    Indoors:

    Outdoors:

    Whether you are indoors or outdoors, remember that your risk increases with the duration of your exposure to others.

    With the question of transmission, it's not just the public that has been confused. There's also been confusion among scientists, medical professionals and public health officials, in part because they have often used the words "droplets" and "aerosols" differently. To address the confusion, participants in an August workshop on airborne transmission of SARS-CoV-2 at the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine suggested these definitions for respiratory droplets and aerosols::

    All respiratory activities, including breathing, talking and singing, produce far more aerosols than droplets. A person is far more likely to inhale aerosols than to be sprayed by a droplet, even at short range. The exact percentage of transmission by droplets versus aerosols is still to be determined. But we know from epidemiologic and other data, especially superspreading events , that infection does occur through inhalation of aerosols.

    In short, how are we getting infected by SARS-CoV-2? The answer is: In the air. Once we acknowledge this, we can use tools we already have to help end this pandemic.


    Kimberly A. Prather, PhD, Distinguished Chair in Atmospheric Chemistry, Scripps Institution of Oceanography, UC San Diego.

    Linsey C Marr, PhD, Charles P. Lunsford Professor of Civil and Environmental Engineering, Virginia Tech.

    Donald K Milton, MD, DrPH, Professor of Environment Health at The University of Maryland School of Public Health.

    [Oct 11, 2020] Money laundering time? Covid-19 can survive on CASH for 28 days, study claims

    Oct 11, 2020 | www.rt.com

    Coronavirus can survive on certain surfaces, including banknotes and mobile phone screens, for nearly a month in cooler climates, new research by Australian scientists suggests.

    Covid-19 is able to survive in the open for a significantly longer length of time than was previously thought, according to a study by the Australian Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization (CSIRO) published by the Virology Journal.

    "Establishing how long the virus really remains viable on surfaces enables us to more accurately predict and mitigate its spread, and do a better job of protecting our people," said CSIRO's chief executive, Dr. Larry Marshall.

    According to the research, the virus has proven to be "extremely stable" and able to thrive on smooth, non-porous surfaces, including paper and plastic banknotes, glass, and steel. Kept at around room temperature – 20C (68F) – Covid-19 stayed alive for a whopping 28 days, which is some 10 days longer than the survival time of the regular flu virus. It should be noted that the experiment was carried out in the dark, as UV light is very effective in killing the coronavirus.

    Higher temperatures are significantly less comfortable for the virus. At 40C (104F), it was able to survive for less than 24 hours. At 30C (86F) Covid-19 demonstrated quite mixed results, staying alive for some seven days on stainless steel, plastic notes and glass, but only three days on vinyl and cotton cloth. On paper cash, the contagious virus was still detected after 21 days under those conditions.

    [Oct 09, 2020] Your chances of dying from Covid-19- If you're healthy under 65, a 40-mile daily commute by car is more likely to kill you -- RT Op-ed

    Oct 09, 2020 | www.rt.com

    Your chances of dying from Covid-19? If you're healthy & under 65, a 40-mile daily commute by car is more likely to kill you 7 Oct, 2020 12:46 Get short URL Your chances of dying from Covid-19? If you're healthy & under 65, a 40-mile daily commute by car is more likely to kill you FILE PHOTO: A doctor checks the identity of a man before taking swabs. Toulouse. France. April 28th 2020 © Getty Images / Alain Pitton/NurPhoto 424 Follow RT on RT

    By Malcolm Kendrick , doctor and author who works as a GP in the National Health Service in England. His blog can be read here and his book, 'Doctoring Data – How to Sort Out Medical Advice from Medical Nonsense,' is available here . Yes, coronavirus is a serious infection for the elderly and vulnerable. But, for just about everyone else, it's a relatively mild condition with a very low fatality rate. The only thing to fear is our overreaction to it.

    In this piece, I intend to establish a reasonably accurate estimate for the risk of dying of Covid-19 for the average healthy person under the age of sixty-five.

    If we go back to the start of the pandemic, most of the world locked down based on a prediction that the Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) of Covid-19 would be in the region of one per cent.

    In the UK, the pandemic modellers at Imperial College London, the group with the greatest influence on Government policy, estimated the IFR at 0.9 percent. In short, they predicted that approximately one in a hundred people infected with the Sars-Cov2 virus would die.

    Has this estimate proven accurate? If so, within a world population of between seven and eight billion, we would expect to suffer up to 76 million deaths. So far, there have been just over one million .

    Having said this, no-one predicted that everyone could become infected. The Imperial College model suggested that about 80 percent of people would need to be infected before we reached 'herd immunity.' I prefer to call it community-wide immunity. We are not cattle.

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    Which means that we were not going to reach that figure of 76 million. Under this 80 percent model, we might expect to reach 61 million deaths (7.5bn x 0.8 x 0.1). Even with this reduced number, we are a long way short. How long might it take to get to 61 million?

    At present, worldwide deaths are running at around 5,000 per day. At this rate, it would take 33 years to reach sixty million deaths. I am not certain what the time limitation is before a pandemic could be considered to have ended. I would imagine that 33 years might be stretching things a little far.

    Perhaps a more important point to consider is this. Do we know how many people have been infected up to this point? If so, we can make a better guess at the likely IFR, and your risk of dying.

    Dr Mike Ryan, the executive director of the World Health Organization's health emergencies programme, recently stated the WHO has estimated that 750 million people have been infected worldwide .

    If this is the case, calculating the current, rather than the estimated, IFR is pretty straightforward. You simply divide the one million deaths [1,034,068, to be fully accurate], by 750m.

    1,034,068/750,000,000 = 0.138 percent.

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    So, an IFR of 0.138 percent. Which is significantly lower than the initially predicted one per cent. Or, to turn this figure around, according to the WHO figures, if you become infected with Covid-19, there is a one-in-750 chance you will die.

    Of course, figures will vary from country to country. In Kenya, for example, the most recent attempt to estimate the IFR showed an exceptionally low rate. A study was done where antibodies for Sars-Cov2 were taken between April and June 2020. It was found that seroprevalence, the number of people showing antibodies, was 5.2 percent. (This will be an underestimate of true infection numbers, as many people do not create antibodies).

    This represents an 'infected' population of just under three million (2,796,107), and there had been 71 deaths. Which provides an Infection Fatality Ratio of 0.00254 percent. This extremely low rate is, currently, unexplained .

    On the other hand, the country with the highest overall death rate based on mortality per million is Peru. The total population of Peru is 32 million, and there have been just over 32,000 deaths. Which is a population fatality rate of almost exactly 0.1 percent. How many people have been infected in Peru in total? Uncertain. However, their IFR is going to end up in excess of 0.1 percent. Not everybody has yet been infected.

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    Why is there so much variation? This is currently unknown. Some people think that the indigenous population in Peru is at much higher risk than the surrounding 'European' population, due to genetic factors. However, let's leave aside country-to-country and genetic variability for now. Overall, if you get infected, it looks as though the chance of dying currently stands at one in seventy hundred and fifty.

    However, there is another enormously important factor at play here. Which is that, in almost all countries, Covid-19 is far more serious and deadly in the elderly population. Therefore, the average IFR doesn't tell you much about your real risk. You need to factor in age.

    For example, across most of Western Europe, if we look at excess mortality rates since the start of the epidemic, there have been just over two thousand more deaths than normal in those under the age of 45. These figures come from EuroMOMO, which gathers data from 24 European countries, with a combined population of 240 million (The UK is treated as four separate countries).

    EuroMOMO describes its mission thus: 'The overall objective of the original European Mortality Monitoring Project was to design a routine public health mortality monitoring system aimed at detecting and measuring, on a real-time basis, excess number of deaths related to influenza and other possible public health threats across participating European Countries.'

    In those aged over 45, there have been more than 200,000 excess deaths. The figures from EuroMOMO in more detail are:

    1-14 years = -15 deaths (minus 15)

    15-44 years = 2,075

    45 – 64 years = 17,826

    65 – 74 years = 25,674

    75 – 84 years = 65,982

    85 + years = 98.069

    So in all, for people aged 65-plus, there were 190,857 excess deaths.

    RT

    Below is the EuroMOMO graph of all deaths across Europe on a week-by-week basis in 2020. As you can see there is a big rise in excess deaths, that started in late March and was finished by the middle of May. There was a further small blip in early September, which has now gone.

    RT © EuroMOMO

    Essentially, if you are under 45 the risk of death (so far) has been 0.00158 percent or about one in 70,000. Over the age of 65 it is 0.17 percent. What is it for those with no significant underlying medical conditions? Much lower.

    Leaving that issue aside, for those in the lower age range, even in those up to 65, the risk of death remains extremely low. The following statement comes from a paper written by three Stanford University doctors, entitled 'Population-level COVID-19 mortality risk for non-elderly individuals overall and for non-elderly individuals without underlying diseases in pandemic epicenters':

    "People <65 years old have very small risks of COVID-19 death even in pandemic epicenters and deaths for people <65 years without underlying predisposing conditions are remarkably uncommon."

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    As this paper went on to say, looking at Europe, and various US States:

    "The COVID-19 mortality rate in people <65 years old during the period of fatalities from the epidemic was equivalent to the mortality rate from driving between 4 and 82 miles per day for 13 countries and 5 states."

    To put this another way, for healthy individuals under the age of 65, even during the peak weeks of the pandemic, a forty-mile commute was more likely to kill you than Covid-19 in most European countries and several US States.

    Yes, for the elderly and vulnerable, Covid-19 is a serious infection, with an Infection Fatality Ratio significantly higher than most influenza epidemics. With the possible exceptions of 1957 and 1968, and leaving aside the flu pandemic of 1918-19 – which dwarfs everything else.

    However, for the rest of the population, Covid-19 has proven to be a relatively mild condition with a very low fatality rate.

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    The statements, views and opinions expressed in this column are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of RT.

    [Oct 09, 2020] A scientific review of the science behind lockdown concludes the policy was a MISTAKE will have caused MORE deaths from Covid-19 by Rob Lyons

    Oct 07, 2020 | www.rt.com
    23:01 / Updated 3 hours ago Get short URL A scientific review of the science behind lockdown concludes the policy was a MISTAKE & will have caused MORE deaths from Covid-19 Anti-lockdown protest in London, Britain, August 29, 2020 © REUTERS / Henry Nicholls 97 Follow RT on RT The report, analysing the information available to UK policymakers in March, says schools shouldn't have shut, that only vulnerable groups like the old should have been isolated, & that herd immunity may have been a better route.

    A new paper by researchers at Edinburgh University suggests that lockdowns do not help to reduce the death toll from Covid-19, but may simply postpone those deaths. It's another piece of evidence that suggests that a different strategy to combat the pandemic - one that doesn't impose blanket restrictions across society - is needed.

    The research was done by a team from Edinburgh's School of Physics and Astronomy. If that sounds odd, Professor Graeme Ackland, one of the authors, has a good explanation. He told me: "From March, every serious epidemiologist has been seconded to SPI-M (the Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group on Modelling) and SAGE (the main Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies), producing new research on a timescale of days. There simply aren't enough of them to also do replication or even careful peer review. But there were thousands of people who could do data-cleaning, code checking, validation and replication."

    Ackland and his colleagues were, he says, "tasked by SPI-M and SAGE with exploring any 'reservations'. SPI-M understood very well the problem of groupthink in a closed community, and asked us to 'kick the tyres' on everything. Another thing real epidemiologists would do themselves given enough time."

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    Their paper is not really a criticism of the original modelling done before lockdown. In fact, it uses the model used by Imperial College to assess a wider range of scenarios than was done at the time. "My overall opinion" , says Ackland, "is that the government's experts have reliably produced better predictions than the 'newspaper experts'."

    One sentence in the new paper is particularly striking in regards to the original Imperial College work: "Contrary to popular perception, the lockdown, which was then implemented, was not specifically modelled in this work." Given that lockdown carried on for months, and schools remained shut until the autumn, the failure to go back to see what the model says about the effects of lockdown is remarkable.

    The aim of the paper is to "replicate and analyse the information available to UK policymakers when the lockdown decision was taken in March 2020" . The paper concludes that the original model would have provided a good forecast if based on a reproduction number for the virus of 3.5. (The Imperial report on 16 March was based on the 'R' being between 2.2 and 2.4.) The counter-intuitive outcome of the model is that it suggests that "school closures and isolation of younger people would increase the total number of deaths, albeit postponed to a second and subsequent waves" .

    The model suggests that prompt interventions were effective in reducing peak demand for intensive care beds, but would also prolong the epidemic. In some scenarios, this could lead to more deaths in the long term. Why? Because, as the paper notes, "Covid-19 related mortality is highly skewed towards older age groups. In the absence of an effective vaccination programme, none of the proposed mitigation strategies in the UK would reduce the predicted total number of deaths below 200,000."

    It's wise to be cautious about any particular numbers. When researchers applied a similar model to Sweden, for example, the numbers were far in excess of the real outcomes. Nonetheless, the thing that really caused alarm back in March wasn't the much-quoted half a million deaths from a 'do nothing' policy. It was the Imperial team's assertion that the 'most effective mitigation strategy' they examined - case isolation, household quarantine and social distancing of the elderly - would lead to around 250,000 deaths.

    READ MORE UK health secretary claims rise in Covid-19 cases is 'very serious problem' UK health secretary claims rise in Covid-19 cases is 'very serious problem'

    This was the reason, we were told, that nothing short of lockdown would do. If the government had asked Ferguson to model lockdown, and the result was 200,000 deaths - in other words, in the same ballpark - would we have gone into lockdown, given the damage it has done?

    Specifically, for Covid-19, closing schools and universities was a serious mistake, it would seem (contrary to comments in April by Professor Neil Ferguson, who led the original modelling). Keeping them open would have meant lots of younger people getting the virus, with relatively little harm, but would have speeded up the process of achieving 'herd' immunity.

    In conclusion, the authors write: "The optimal strategy for saving lives in a Covid-19 epidemic is different from that anticipated for an influenza epidemic with a different mortality age profile." At the very least, says Ackland, schools could have remained open while doing everything possible to protect the most vulnerable groups. The absolute priority was to keep the disease out of hospitals and care homes.

    Unsurprisingly, this is exactly the message coming from SAGE before the Imperial College modelling results were published on 16 March. For example, Professor Graham Medley - the chair of SPI-M and a member of SAGE, told BBC Newsnight on 13 March: "This virus is going to be with us for a long time, we're going to have an epidemic and then it will become endemic and join in with all the other coronaviruses that we all have all the time, but don't notice. We're going to have to generate what we call herd immunity. So that's a situation where the majority of the population are immune to the infection. And the only way of developing that in the absence of a vaccine is for the majority of the population to become infected."

    The trick is to ensure that the people who are worst affected by the disease are protected from it - which, despite the lockdown, the UK government failed to do.

    READ MORE The NHS needs to stop being hysterical. Taking steps to shield the vulnerable elderly from Covid is NOT 'age-based apartheid' The NHS needs to stop being hysterical. Taking steps to shield the vulnerable elderly from Covid is NOT 'age-based apartheid'

    Postponing an avalanche of cases is not necessarily a bad thing. For example, it has allowed us to find some specific treatments, particularly showing that the steroid dexamethasone can save the lives of some of the most ill patients. We've learned that ventilators, which were such a huge focus at the start of the crisis, are less useful than first thought. On the other hand, we've learned that kidney dialysis machines could be vital. If a vaccine could be rolled out soon, that could be very important, too, but that looks unlikely before next spring.

    However, the fact remains that this epidemic will only end when either enough people have been infected with it to end widespread transmission or until an effective vaccine becomes available. It would be much better, given the modelling, if the people who get it are young and healthy, rather than old or with a pre-existing illness.

    Instead of holding its nerve, as Sweden did, the UK government panicked and imposed unprecedented restrictions on our freedom. This has done enormous damage to the economy, mental health, children's education and much more. Worse, if the modellers are correct, lockdown won't really have much impact on saving lives. And having committed to this course, the government doesn't seem to have double checked if this made sense using the very models they relied on in the first place.

    The fact that cases have been rising across Europe - particularly in countries like France and Spain that imposed the strictest lockdowns - should give us cause for concern, but not alarm. There are indications that the rate of spread has slowed down, possibly reflecting the impact of some population immunity, although case numbers are still rising. However, the numbers dying from it are low, and currently make up only around 2% of all deaths in England and Wales.

    We could end up in the worst of all scenarios: ever more restrictions, more and more older people getting the virus, and heading into winter with the usual seasonal rise in other illnesses like influenza on top of Covid - with all that means for pressure on healthcare.

    There is still time to change course, open up society for younger people, protect and support the vulnerable and allow the epidemic to take its course. There is no scenario where nobody dies and everything is fine and dandy. We have been hit by a deadly new virus. That's no excuse for bad policies that risk turning a crisis into a disaster.

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    [Oct 03, 2020] Looking at excess deaths, it looks like the Covid pandemic is basically over.

    Oct 03, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

    Deltaeus , Oct 2 2020 20:50 utc | 119

    The one statistic that it seems no-one can manipulate is excess mortality .

    https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

    I cannot get around the fact that the number of deaths per month increased to double the normal rate for a couple of months and then went back to normal by June or so. It varies by country. Spain had double the normal death rate for a month or so, now back to normal. USA had one and half times normal for longer. Germany never exceeded 20% above average.

    Some people track "covid deaths" but there are intrinsic difficulties with such statistics (co-morbidity) even if you are striving for objectivity, and every region has different definitions.

    The media seems to be talking a lot about "cases" and not talking about "deaths" - is that because deaths are back to normal?

    Looking at excess deaths, it looks like the Covid pandemic is basically over.

    If anyone can provide some insight into why excess death statistics do not say what I think they are saying, I'd be delighted to learn more.

    [Sep 29, 2020] If the goal of the Bilderburg and Davos groups was to control or reduce world population, they have been startling ineffective in doing so; if COVID was about population control, they could have genetically engineered and release a virus that actually killed more than really unhealthy people, instead of restricting people's freedoms over an overhyped (to be polite) virus.

    Sep 29, 2020 | www.unz.com

    eD , says: September 27, 2020 at 3:19 am GMT

    While Mike Whitney is on the right track, I think he is incorrect when he echoes other internet commentators that the end game of Operation COVID is population reduction.

    Since World War II, global population has increased by 80 million each and every year. Of course, as the world population grew, from just over 2 billion at the end of World War 2 to almost 8 billion today, the annual percentage increase decreased since the annual 80 million was coming off of a bigger base population. Until this year, the annual increase in absolute numbers has always been 80 million.

    Rich people often go to conferences and talk about wanting to control population, but that has never come close to happening. Only the Chinese and Japanese governments implemented effective population control programs. If the goal of the Bilderburg and Davos groups was to control or reduce world population, they have been startling ineffective in doing so. If COVID was about population control, they could have genetically engineered and release a virus that actually killed more than really unhealthy people, instead of restricting people's freedoms over an overhyped (to be polite) virus.

    The obvious conclusion is that this crowd has no interest in population control whatsoever. But they are concerned with reducing industrial activity and greenhouse gas emissions. And that is to be accomplished by keeping up population growth, but reducing the standard of living of everyone but the Davos crowd to medieval peasant levels. They want to keep their slaves, thank you very much. The plan is to get to a global population of 11 billion people but everyone but a few families has a diet of rice and beans.

    The victims of this scheme, which is flat out evil, can enjoy one irony. While the lockdowns may have curbed greenhouse gas emissions, the worldwide temperature drop this year was only o.o1 degree Celsius (0.02 to 0.03 Farenheit). Yeah, it would have been more without the lockdowns, but all thisfor 0.01 degrees.

    One issue is that greenhouse gas emissions are primarily caused by population growth itself, so turning everyone into third world peasants but having lots and lots of them won't work. Poor people in India contribute a lot by just cutting down trees for cooking fires. The bigger issue is that since 2018, methane released from tundra and the Artic Ocean has started overtaking carbon as the main greenhouse gas. Which means the game is already over in terms of controlling greenhouse gasses. Its a matter of adjusting now, though granted a decrease in worldwide population would make the adjustment easier.

    By the way, even with the old fashioned carbon emissions, closing all the mom and pop businesses and churches and forcing everyone to buy everything online and have it shipped to them is counter-productive.

    Dumbo , says: September 27, 2020 at 8:20 am GMT
    @eD t care about diseases. They just care about control. They are evil psychopathic narcissists.

    Sad thing is, most people are dumb as rocks and fall every time for the tales of these snake oil salesmen.

    These days in Montreal there was a protest for "climate action", "protection of migrants" and "BLM" – and of course with all the people wearing masks against "Covid". A March of Zombies if there ever was one.

    https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/montrealers-march-to-send-message-on-climate-inaction

    RoatanBill , says: September 27, 2020 at 1:17 pm GMT

    Here's the latest from the CDC regarding survival rates.

    https://tallahasseereports.com/2020/09/26/cdc-releases-updated-covid-19-fatality-rate-data/
    CDC COVID-19 Survival Rates

    Age 0-19 -- 99.997%
    Age 20-49 -- 99.98%
    Age 50-69 -- 99.5%
    Age 70+ -- 94.6%

    This is one giant political scam.

    Stephen J. Gray , says: Website September 27, 2020 at 10:55 pm GMT

    Excellent article. I believe the treachery of the so-called elites have no boundaries. Evil is their master and control of the populace is their aim. I also believe we need mass arrests of those that are using this virus as a cover for their agenda for the world.

    omegabooks , says: September 28, 2020 at 5:01 am GMT

    So how many times have the criminal psycho elites tried their "time to take over the world" shtick for the past thousands of years and for some strange reason they never could? Because they are criminals. Because they are psychopaths. Because they are elites but only in their own minds as they think they are gods. And speaking of God .ever hear of the Bible? There's a passage in Ecclesiastes that pretty much sums it up: from Ecclesiastes 1:9–"The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun." (KJV) And what is the definition of insanity (for psychopaths are insane, right?)–doing the same thing (nothing new under the sun) over and over (that which is done is that which shall be done) expecting different results . when the result is always the same. And I don't give a crap how wealthy Gates is he and his god Satan are not in control .God controls Satan (see Job Chapter Two) doncha know .and so does Christ (see Matthew Chapter Four). Dystopian future? Only if you want it that way and believe the nonsense that the elites are in control. With freedom comes responsibility which most folks these days couldn't handle with a ten foot pole; hence they'll accept whatever slavery the elites think they'll cajole the people to accept. Have fun with that. Turning oneself into a "wear a mask or else" Karen bully has consequences .do these idiots know how much their hatred will destroy them? When idiots become psychopaths ..

    GMC , says: September 28, 2020 at 7:38 am GMT
    @RoatanBill argill, DuPont, John Deere, and others have either bribed their way into securing certain countries farmland, or have used regime change tactics in order to secure even more farmlands { Ukraine's, Syria's breadbasket etc. }. In Ukraine, Monsanto's gmo corn is called AmeriKanski Kookarooza – and it's easy to see the difference between the gmo vs the locally grown corn. Shall we talk about the takeover, of the world's fresh water aquifers? = Same corporate game. Or the sabotage of the independent farms in all of the Americas. Russia and China has been watching for years, and are developing their plans to be fairly independent – time is running out. Thanks
    Verymuchalive , says: September 28, 2020 at 3:17 pm GMT
    @Justvisiting

    You're probably right about the sociopath tag. Certainly, they're completely deluded. Creating conditions for war when you have so much to lose is incredibly stupid, as Rasputin never said to Tsar Nicholas.

    Alfred , says: September 28, 2020 at 6:38 pm GMT
    @Verymuchalive

    as Rasputin never said to Tsar Nicholas.

    Rasputin worked to bring about peace. He got the Tsar to sack ministers who were pro-British. Rasputin was shot by a British Agent. There was previously another attempt on his life – also by the British.

    Alfred , says: September 28, 2020 at 3:52 pm GMT
    @vot tak "current best estimate" of chances of dying from the virus if you get infected:

    1 out of 34,000 for ages 0 to 19;

    1 out of 5,000 for ages 20 to 49;

    1 out of 200 for ages 50 to 69; and

    1 out of 20 for ages 70 and up.

    Here's another way to look at the same numbers. If you get infected, your chances of surviving are as follows:

    Age Group Probability of Survival

    0-19: 99.997%
    20-49: 99.98%
    50-69: 99.5%
    70+: 94.6%

    anon [842] Disclaimer , says: September 28, 2020 at 3:54 pm GMT

    I'm a conservative who wants non-interventionism, less globalization and less immigration (preferably zero), and I see things very differently.

    For the life of me I can't understand why self-proclaimed conservatives are so keen on getting things back to where they were, which they complained often as a world run by liberals. As far as I'm concern, a lot more good will come from this than bad. The most important is the decentralization of work and with it, the decongestion of cities. Remote work lessens the need for immigration. Less air travel lessens globalization. More parents will begin to embrace homeschooling thus lessening the power of our education establishment. More universities will go bankrupt as they lose students in particular full fee paying foreign students.

    Our cities are bastions of liberalism. As more people move away from them to return closer to their kin in the center of the country, the power of cities will decline. All the protests esp. in (D) run cities in the West coast and NE will only hasten their own demise, which will be good for America.

    Our current economy relies far too much on the service sector. Cities have become centers of excessive drinking, eating, gambling, night-clubbing, drug addiction, prostitution and all sorts of unseemly activities that led to our moral decline. The decline of these establishments and cities will lead to stronger families and a return to moral values.

    Smarby , says: September 29, 2020 at 5:36 am GMT
    @eD

    If the goal of the Bilderburg and Davos groups was to control or reduce world population, they have been startling ineffective in doing so.

    What if their goal wasn't to reduce the entire population, but only certain segments? Replacement Migration isn't a term that conspiracy theorists made up. How close do you suppose the correlation is between the decline in white birth rates and things like"straight white male" and "whiteness" becoming pejoratives in modern context?

    trackit , says: September 29, 2020 at 7:49 am GMT
    @eD

    imho by inserting HIV in Corona by "Gain Of Function" research they were looking just to make a serious bioweapon. And the giveaway is the reaction out of any proportion in lockdowns and hysteria, that is, they are still following the plot even if their bioweapon was a pathetic dud.

    [Sep 29, 2020] Covid is not the Spanish Flu, not the Black Plague and the Genocidal Planetary Killer Virus it was cracked up to be. It kills more people than the annual influenza, but not significantly more.

    Notable quotes:
    "... The second type of Covid-19, is Covid "The Political Contrivance" or, rather, C ODENAME: O peration V irus Id entification 20 19. This iteration of the Covid phenom relates to the manner in which a modestly-lethal respiratory pathogen has been inflated into a perennial public health crisis in order to implement economic and societal changes that would otherwise be impossible. This is the political side of Covid, which is much more difficult to define since it relates to the ambiguous agenda of powerful elites who are using the infection to conceal their real intentions. ..."
    "... hospitals were given a financial incentive to label each and every death as "covid." $13,000 a pop. ..."
    "... Note also that the media claims that rioting and looting doesn't spread covid, funerals for dead negroes do not spread covid, abortion clinics do not spread covid, but going to church DEFINITELY spreads covid and Trump rallies are the most super-spreader events of all... ..."
    "... Since gov't is making hydroxychloroquine and other treatments near impossible to use, gov't is essentially murdering sick people. Does murder count towards the virus death statistics? ..."
    "... The virus is real enough, but the hype surrounding it and the mendacity involved in every report means no one KNOWS what the actual truth is. It should be obvious, however, that it's not the equal to the Spanish Flu or the Black Death. The reaction to the virus is infinitely worse than the virus itself, thanks to the swine in gov't. ..."
    "... The CDC's own figures of several weeks ago make clear that only 6% of the 200 000 US deaths from Covid were actually directly because of Covid. ..."
    "... The other 94% were said to have been either very elderly or to have at least 2 underlying serious medical conditions. ..."
    "... I suspect many people would die when contracting the "ordinary" flu under the same circumstances. ..."
    "... "... Of course people go to the hospital, moving into the autumn flu season but there is no science to suggest a second wave should happen." ..."
    Sep 29, 2020 | www.unz.com

    Originally from: Gates, Kissinger and Our Dystopian Future, by Mike Whitney - The Unz Review

    "The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it." George Orwell

    Can we agree that there are two types of Covid-19?

    The first type, is Covid-19 ,"The Virus", which is a fairly mild infection that most people don't even realize they've contracted. They remain either asymptomatic or have slight flu-like symptoms that go away after a week or so. A tiny sliver of the population– that are mainly-older, vulnerable people with underlying health conditions– can develop complications, become seriously ill and die. But, according to most analysis, the chances of dying from Covid are roughly between 1 in every 200 to 1 in every 1,000 people. (CDC-IFR- 0.26%)

    In other words, Covid is not the Spanish Flu, not the Black Plague and the Genocidal Planetary Killer Virus it was cracked up to be. It kills more people than the annual influenza, but not significantly more.

    The second type of Covid-19, is Covid "The Political Contrivance" or, rather, C ODENAME: O peration V irus Id entification 20 19. This iteration of the Covid phenom relates to the manner in which a modestly-lethal respiratory pathogen has been inflated into a perennial public health crisis in order to implement economic and societal changes that would otherwise be impossible. This is the political side of Covid, which is much more difficult to define since it relates to the ambiguous agenda of powerful elites who are using the infection to conceal their real intentions.


    RoatanBill , says: September 28, 2020 at 11:27 am GMT

    @vot tak

    Please explain the CDC's most recent survival statistics, which are:

    Age 0-19 -- 99.997%
    Age 20-49 -- 99.98%
    Age 50-69 -- 99.5%
    Age 70+ -- 94.6%

    The virus is real enough, it's just not the threat its made out to be.

    Getaclue , says: September 28, 2020 at 9:01 pm GMT
    @animalogic te you and want you, if not dead, impoverished, shut up, and "quarantined" permanently -- it's painful to watch so very many people cheer this on out of Covid Cowardice and/or utter stupidity while dragging the rest of us along with them unfortunately .: https://www.globalresearch.ca/chief-science-officer-pfizer-says-second-wave-faked-false-positive-covid-tests-pandemic-over/5724753
    Robert Dolan , says: September 29, 2020 at 2:31 am GMT
    @Z-man

    hospitals were given a financial incentive to label each and every death as "covid." $13,000 a pop.

    The most revealing number is the number of total deaths year to year has NOT increased this year, which makes it obvious that covid really hasn't had much of a real impact at all.

    Note also that the media claims that rioting and looting doesn't spread covid, funerals for dead negroes do not spread covid, abortion clinics do not spread covid, but going to church DEFINITELY spreads covid and Trump rallies are the most super-spreader events of all...

    RoatanBill , says: September 29, 2020 at 10:29 am GMT
    @vot tak ely inappropriate in the way it's being used according to the man who invented it, so all the positives and negatives are bullshit.

    Since gov't is making hydroxychloroquine and other treatments near impossible to use, gov't is essentially murdering sick people. Does murder count towards the virus death statistics?

    The virus is real enough, but the hype surrounding it and the mendacity involved in every report means no one KNOWS what the actual truth is. It should be obvious, however, that it's not the equal to the Spanish Flu or the Black Death. The reaction to the virus is infinitely worse than the virus itself, thanks to the swine in gov't.

    Rogue , says: September 29, 2020 at 11:45 am GMT
    @vot tak

    The CDC's own figures of several weeks ago make clear that only 6% of the 200 000 US deaths from Covid were actually directly because of Covid.

    The other 94% were said to have been either very elderly or to have at least 2 underlying serious medical conditions.

    I suspect many people would die when contracting the "ordinary" flu under the same circumstances.

    Covid is real enough – but no way has it been serious enough to warrant a worldwide lockdown.

    I'm still undecided whether the lockdown is overreaction, or conspiracy.

    Alfred , says: September 29, 2020 at 12:59 pm GMT
    @Rogue

    "... Of course people go to the hospital, moving into the autumn flu season but there is no science to suggest a second wave should happen."

    Chief Science Officer for Pfizer Says "Second Wave" Faked on False-Positive COVID Tests, "Pandemic is Over"

    [Sep 29, 2020] CDC is settling on an Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) for COVID-19 of about 0.65%.

    Sep 29, 2020 | thenewkremlinstooge.wordpress.com

    MARK CHAPMAN September 24, 2020 at 8:45 pm

    From all I have read, it looks as if the CDC is settling on an Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) for COVID-19 of about 0.65%. That fluctuates a bit, and sometimes is presented as low as 0.1%. But consensus in the field seems to be that the infection rate as a whole is grossly underestimated, and may be 25 times as high – this seems to be supported by the 'new cases' phenomenon, whereby the more they test, the more cases they discover, which in turn seems to suggest more cases await discovery than current testing can keep up with. At the same time, though, even fiddling with the death rate by incorporating all deaths of tested people regardless whether COVID actually killed them cannot conceal that the fatality rate of confirmed cases is quite low. COVID-19 is extremely contagious but chance of recovery for those infected is in the order of 98% even by conservative estimate, and the demographic for whom it is most dangerous is well-established as elderly, perhaps above age 75, and the immune-compromised.

    Against that backdrop, SARS CoV (2003) and MERS (2012) were considerably less contagious, but significantly more dangerous – SARS CoV was 16 times more deadly at 9.6% IFR, and MERS 57 times more deadly at 34.3 %. Both are coronaviruses. In both cases the at-risk group included the elderly, although MERS seemed mostly to affect men, and the immune-compromised. In neither case is a vaccine available to this day. In neither case was a lockdown employed.

    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/how-do-sars-and-mers-compare-with-covid-19#MERS

    What can we deduce from this? I'm going to suggest governments fell hook, line and sinker for the Imperial College model and its grossly-flawed projections of huge numbers of deaths. Lockdowns, in their turn, were desperate efforts to stave off those mass deaths. But entirely the wrong lessons were learned, and governments still seem to believe – or pretend to, for their own purposes – that going back into lockdown is an efficacious way to deal with an apparent 'surge' in cases. But this has already been shown to not prevent such deaths as occur from Coronavirus, and it looks to me like safeguarding facilities for the elderly and weak, such as care homes, would suffice. There is a totally-unsupported linkage of large numbers of infections with large numbers of deaths. And for so long as we commit to wiping out an airborne viral infection by suppressing it, we can never open our international borders until the last case has been eradicated worldwide. Every country will have a large pool of uninfected potential victims with no herd immunity. Astra-Zeneca/Oxford's vaccine trials have been suspended because of unanticipated deleterious effects on test subjects.

    https://nypost.com/2020/09/08/astrazeneca-halts-covid-19-vaccine-trial/

    BLATNOI September 25, 2020 at 3:48 am

    Well, a 1% or .65% death rate is a huge number of deaths if everybody necessary for herd immunity gets infected (~60-80% of all people based on the contagiousness). And apparently it's not familiar to humans so everyone gets infected with it, unlike the flu or cold to which many already have some antibodies. And you're still likely not to notice it that much in your circle, but all of a sudden you end up with 2 million dead in the US where so many are obese, and COVID is known for playing with the heart rate in addition to causing breathing difficulties.

    There is actually a MERS vaccine that finished Phase II. It was made by the same Russian institute responsible for the coronavirus vaccine and they've been testing it for the last few years. This explains why they had such a head start in vaccine development. They basically took their MERS system and replaces it with the COVID specific antibody and felt so certain about it that they injected themselves with it already back in the spring.

    There is an interview there with the developer. I know it's Kevin Rothrock's outfit, but the interview was actually very good and professionally done from a science angle. I'm not sure they translated it from Russian entirely as I read it a while ago.

    https://meduza.io/en/feature/2020/07/23/russia-s-way-out

    MARK CHAPMAN September 25, 2020 at 10:10 am

    That's interesting. According to the source I cited, both SARS CoV and MERS are also zoonotic, meaning they originate in animals and are not familiar to humans – SARS CoV's natural reservoir was horseshoe bats and MERS from contact with Dromedary camels. I have seen suggestions, which seem to be supported by the rapid decline in deaths relative to the rise in infections, that herd immunity for COVID 19 may be a much lower threshold than previous viral infections, possibly as low as 20%.

    BLATNOI September 25, 2020 at 7:24 pm

    Mathematically, it does not make any sense that herd immunity for any disease to which you need to develop immunity would be less than 50%, because until that threshold, each infected person has on average a greater chance of coming in contact with someone who does not have immunity, than with someone who has immunity. Now as you get to 50%, then the reproduction rate of the virus across population starts to matter. If it's low, just above 1, then you might become healthy and non infectious before you can infect someone else so herd immunity can be just above 50%. However if it's really high, like the 20 of measles, then even 99% will not be enough to kill it as it will always find someone who is a good host for it and that's why measles is so hard to wipe out, even though almost everyone has a vaccination.

    MARK CHAPMAN September 25, 2020 at 7:36 pm

    Interesting; I did not think about it from a mathematical point of view. I wonder where the figure of 20% came from? Now I could challenge them and look smart.

    Oh, hey – what do you know? I was just browsing for something interesting to read while I ate my Instant Pot Peach Cobbler (delicious with French Vanilla ice cream, and I used way less sugar than the recipe called for), and I found an article claiming a low (although not quite 20% low) herd immunity is possible because of pre-existing immunity in T-cells, and that a significant number of people worldwide already had some level of resistance to COVID-19 before it even arrived on-scene.

    https://www.anti-empire.com/ex-chief-science-officer-for-pfizer-says-second-wave-conjured-up-by-flawed-test-pandemic-is-over/

    Dr. Michael Yeadon, Chief Science Officer for Pharma giant Pfizer for 16 years, is the source for some of the material, although I have not watched the video and do not know how much of what is claimed he is responsible for. A lot of jaw-dropping inferences that at least half the COVID test results might be false-positives, and maybe many more. If the numbers claimed have any solid backing and are accurate, then the survival rate for COVID-19 is only marginally less than the flu – 99.8% versus 99.9% for flu.

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    BLATNOI September 25, 2020 at 11:09 pm

    I forgot to mention that it's possible for the disease to end before reaching 50% if the transmission rate goes below 1, but this is due to other factors such as quarantines, people taking precautions, it's summer and it doesn't transmit well, etc But that means it ended before herd immunity has been reached. If the transmission rate was always less than 1, then there would have been no big outbreak at all and it would have died out by itself after infecting a few dozen people. If the conditions revert to the original where the transmission rate was more than 1, and the disease is still around and less than 50% of people have immunity, it will start spreading again.

    Herd immunity is ultimately a mathematical concept so it has to be above 50%. If people already have pre-immunity, either from a previous disease that looked similar or from a vaccine, then that counts as well as part of those 50%. But I thought the deal with the coronavirus was that all humans did not have any pre-immunity to it since it was so different and that's why everyone got scared at the beginning. Because if that is the case, then it will infect ~60% of the entire human population in the best case herd immunity scenario.

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    MARK CHAPMAN September 26, 2020 at 3:25 am

    "If the conditions revert to the original where the transmission rate was more than 1, and the disease is still around and less than 50% of people have immunity, it will start spreading again."

    Hence my main point that even if we managed to wrestle it to submission using suppressive techniques such as lockdown and quarantine, we would never be able to allow travelers from or to other countries until it was extinct everywhere. Suppression was always a bad idea.

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    BLATNOI September 28, 2020 at 2:33 pm

    Well the point was that you could slow it down long enough for a to find some better treatment techniques or for vaccine to be ready. I admit that I didn't think it likely, but since a vaccine is coming out in January, it seems like it was quite an achievable goal, even if the economic damage was not worth it. Now that there is no appetite for lockdowns since the mortality rate is too low and it mostly kills people not in 'your' (i.e. most) demographic, it still might not be enough time to prevent a second wave, but it'll take care of a third one I guess. And they did find a cheap steroid that shuts down the overly strong immune response in the bad cases. It's been credited for lower mortality lately in the US and the low mortality in Russia. So that was the reasoning behind fighting it. Everyone being vaccinated is a more palatable herd immunity strategy for politicians and a huge number of other people, as opposed to the alternative. The economic damage and the bravery of citizens in the face of something that kills only 1% of infected (and mostly old people) was underestimated.

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    MARK CHAPMAN September 28, 2020 at 6:50 pm

    Well, some Canadian provinces – the only ones that matter, I guess, Quebec and Ontario – spent much of today's news cycle declaring that the dreaded Second Wave is already upon us. Cases, naturally, not deaths; they cite 'new infections' with the terrified wonder that implies this was not the expected result of accelerated testing, at all. What we's gonna do? I submit it is a shot across the bow of the 20% or so who are not convinced that this is the Great Scourge childhood Bible tales warned us about; wear a fucking mask and start looking like you like it, bucko, or we'll be back in Lockdown City before you can say "droplets'. It looks more and more like no progress against the virus is going to be measured until the entire population is so cowed that it will accept any withdrawal of its freedoms, while congratulating itself for being so noble and community-minded. Hint – stop thinking 'Rights', and start thinking 'Privileges'.

    But I did hear a sort-of rebuttal to my usual charge that we will never be able to open national borders until every single 'case' has been eradicated worldwide – No, they said; as this situation evolves, we will have quicker and more reliable testing, and we can test, test, test everyone who is entering the country until we are satisfied all travelers from other lands are COVID-free. And we'll have a vaccine, as well, the magic potion that will prevent those who have never had it from ever having it.

    Perhaps. But to me, it's a little like death-penalty cases. If you only once send an innocent plaintiff to his death, it's once too often. If only once a COVID test is inaccurate and a single case carrying a live virus is permitted to enter, it will maul a population rich in uninfected victims in less time than it takes to say it. Herd immunity is a far better concept, and there is absolutely no requirement to risk the lives of the elderly to achieve it. Let it rage among the healthy and younger population until it runs out of steam, and it's beaten. But they're too busy trying to suppress it, then wailing and gnashing their teeth and demanding more sacrifice until the unworkable somehow works.

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    PATIENT OBSERVER September 26, 2020 at 4:21 am

    The 20% figure may be from NYC's experience. Covid-19 spread in that city has largely been eliminated yet with only about 20% (IIRC 22%) immunity of the general population. Those numbers were mentioned in a Congressional hearing involving Rand Paul and the good Dr. Faulucci whatever.

    The 50% requirement likely assumes a completely homogeneous population that is randomly interacting. Yet, children apparently have a lower likelihood of catching and transmitting the disease and may not be counted in the 20-22% figure. Moreover, it's the health impact of the spread that matters. A reasonably health adult has little chance of a severe reaction to an infection. Indeed, getting infected seems to be a free and effective form of vaccination contributing to the decline of further spread.

    My suspicion is that masks and social distancing have only a minor contribution toward reducing the spread. Only a complete lock down would guarantee a reduction in the rate of transmission.

    My inexpert but nevertheless fact-based assessment is that the most effective and least damaging strategy is to protect those groups with a high likelihood of an adverse effect from an infection while allowing the 90%+ of the population to go about their business.

    The above strategy may not be PC as young but overweight people would be singled-out thereby countering the body positivity message that fat is beautiful. Often mentioned by non-MSM sources is that the US's poor Covid track record can be partially explained by the very high rates of obesity with its related health problems. Such inconvenient facts to not play well for an exceptional nation populated by heroes.

    JRKRIDEAU September 26, 2020 at 8:53 am

    I just glanced at it but I think that it is an edited, and somewhat shortened, version of the original Russian-language interview https://meduza.io/feature/2020/07/23/sozdatel-rossiyskoy-vaktsiny-ot-koronavirusa-denis-logunov-dal-meduze-pervoe-bolshoe-intervyu-on-rasskazal-stoit-li-zhdat-privivok-k-sentyabryu-2020-goda .

    MARK CHAPMAN September 24, 2020 at 10:59 am

    Yes, it's funny you should say that, because I just got off the phone with my Mom. We were setting up lunch today; she mentioned that Coronavirus has killed almost 200,000 people in the USA, and I told her that was way off, that's the number worldwide and the media routinely confuses it to scare people. So I immediately looked it up after putting down the phone, and indeed it is over 199,000 deaths in the USA. It is indeed deadlier than the flu; but still, it is not the plague and the number of deaths has tapered off dramatically, hence the need to refer to 'cases' now rather than 'deaths', although obviously if you are a 'case' it is still very unlikely you will be a 'death'.

    I would argue over the 'hidden deaths' unless you do not mean that such deaths should be attributed to coronavirus, since there seems to have been a deliberate effort on the part of the western health-care system to attribute any peripherally-related death to coronavirus and if anything, the number is probably lower than stated. But it has certainly taken off more than I thought.

    CORTES September 24, 2020 at 12:11 pm

    The bulk of the information at

    https://heyjackass.com/

    relates to the ongoing mayhem generated by violence using firearms in Chicago.

    Scroll down through the dismal stats on drive-by shooting incidents and the like and there are a couple of sections dealing with Coronavirus demographics and, especially interesting, listed comorbidities for deaths in Cook County cases. The footnotes detail the sources and remind us to distinguish between cases of death WITH Cv19 and FROM Cv19. The blurring of causes of death benefits only the fearmongers, I believe.

    The Scottish death certificates I used to see regularly listed several causes of death, in descending order of importance. The few English ones I saw had far fewer details, and perhaps the US system followed the English example.

    MARK CHAPMAN September 24, 2020 at 3:48 pm

    Gee; humour is to be found in a variety of odd places these days. The comparison between COVID fatalities and being shot offered a Case Fatality Rate (CFR) of 3.68% for the former, while a much higher rate of 17% was attributed to 'Hi-Speed Lead'. And the CFR for COVID is likely exaggerated as well, due to linking of deaths owing to comorbidities as you mentioned. I think the global average COVID CFR is about 2%.

    CORTES September 27, 2020 at 1:28 am

    Yes, they do have a mischievous sense of humour – one of the "spikes" on the CV19 graphic there is shaped like a handgun.

    The shot-in-the-ass &c-ometers are good too.

    CORTES September 24, 2020 at 11:49 am

    John Helmer seems to take great delight in describing the growth of cheesemaking in Russia since the introduction of retaliatory sanctions:

    http://johnhelmer.net/russia-is-now-the-big-cheese/

    Let's hope that the boutique niche specialists can avoid being crushed by the conglomerates. And who knows, perhaps one day one of the western facing foodies will acquire a taste?

    ET AL September 24, 2020 at 12:42 pm

    It reminds me of that famous French song from the 1980s Fromage, Fromage by Desireless:

    https://www.youtube.com/embed/XU53fN16wc8?version=3&rel=1&fs=1&autohide=2&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&wmode=transparent

    Au dessus le camembert,
    Glissent d'ail en le fromage Bleu d'Auvergne

    CORTES September 24, 2020 at 2:38 pm

    Mechant, Et Al!

    As penance you should read "The Cheese and the Worms" about the Holy Inquisition dealing with a nutty Miller in Friuli.

    MARK CHAPMAN September 24, 2020 at 3:56 pm

    Catchy; I like her voice.

    MARK CHAPMAN September 24, 2020 at 3:15 pm

    That was a singularly interesting post; I always enjoy Helmer's work because it is impeccably sourced, but in this instance the pie charts offered persuasive evidence as to why Belarus was almost immediately selected as the underground railroad for European cheeses masquerading as originating within the customs union. Belarus had 25% of the Russian cheese import market in 2013, and its share ballooned to 86% this year. Added to that would be Lukashenko's fence-sitting and flirtation with the EU, said tacit alliance and cooperation having gone into the toilet bowl with the EU's complicity in trying to overthrow and replace him, whipped on by Uncle Sam. Another nice own goal, you failures.

    As an aside, I greatly appreciate Putin's earthy and impromptu sense of humour; in response to cheesemaker Sirota's assurances that in the next two to three years, Russian cheese exports would make established European cheese producers tremble, he inquired "Will it make them tremble because it is delicious, or because of something else?"

    BLATNOI September 24, 2020 at 8:45 pm

    I don't know if I mentioned it here, but I went to my wife's hometown in the summer of 2019 (I was there earlier as well), and one of the free days I went to the supermarket and bought six to eight different cheeses that said "made in Russia" to try. I left the rest of the blocks to her sister after trying. It wasn't bad actually. Not as good as stuff I can get in Germany but close enough to it, but much better than typical American or Canadian made cheeses. I know it's not a high bar, but still.

    I guess I'm comparing it to Russian chesses from 2015. It was edible but not much different than the cheap cheeses I could get at the ubiquitous Russian supermarkets in Israel. There almost all the stuff was imported from Poland or Russia, and there were a few of homemade varieties that had different names from the official Western version, like Tal-Emek instead of Emmental, where it was slightly inferior but really depended on the month. The Russian cheeses were often different in taste and were different kinds, but were nothing extraordinary. They just didn't copy the Western famous types and concentrated on their own thing. Which I guess is not allowed under the EU rules. Now they copy and call it by the original name too and the taste is great.

    I wish I could get more stuff from Europe and Russia here, but I think my current country has some sort of import mafia where they don't want to compete with outside products too much. The problem is that unlike Russia, they often just don't make that type of cheese so the import substitution amounts to: "Just eat something else. Who needs all these stupid cheeses anyways. We survived many centuries without Emmental. Why don't you just eat our traditional food and be happy; there are pseudo-scientific studies showing that it's healthy!"

    MARK CHAPMAN September 24, 2020 at 9:54 pm

    I did not try a great variety of cheese in Russia when I was there, so my palate is quite limited; we had a medium-hard ripened cheese that was whitish-yellow, sort of creamy in colour and mild in flavour that we liked and pretty consistently bought to eat with rulka and bread as a light meal. But that was in, what, 2006 or so. So the Russian cheese market might have really taken off. And that was in the Primorskye region, which is pretty rural compared with the great cities like St Petersburg and Moscow, where I imagine the variety to be quite cosmopolitan, although back then most of it would likely have been international rather than domestic. We did shop at a few supermarkets, but most of our food purchases came from open-air markets with small shops or the ubiquitous stalls made by cutting one side out of an old shipping container.

    Overall I am encouraged by the Russian response to sanctions, because it seems to me very positive to use it as an opportunity to infuse the domestic industry – rather than being bitter and indulging in recriminations, which would only give the enemy satisfaction, Russia reorients its markets and uses gentle mockery, which makes the enemy feel cheated, balked and ineffective.

    MARK CHAPMAN September 24, 2020 at 6:35 pm

    Pop quiz – who said this?

    "95% of the people in Finland or the United States or Germany believe that Russian state poisoned Navalny. The facts don't matter as much as what people believe in."

    Bonus question – if that's true, how can such a reality coincide with this one?

    "But it is far from clear that Ms Merkel is ready to pull the plug on Nord Stream 2. The chancellor's messaging on the pipeline has been remarkably consistent and the Navalny affair has, so far, barely impinged on it. Moreover, she is backed by most of the German political establishment.

    The opposition Greens tabled a motion in the Bundestag last week calling on the government to stop the project, which will bring gas directly from Russia to Germany across the Baltic Sea. Green party leader Annalena Baerbock said Nord Stream 2 was "splitting Europe".

    Yet Ms Baerbock and her party found themselves almost entirely isolated. Erstwhile enemies from across the political spectrum ganged up to savage their motion. It was one of the few occasions on which Ms Merkel's CDU/CSU, the Social Democrats, the hard-left Die Linke and the hard-right Alternative for Germany had ever agreed on anything

    At the same time, Berlin has continued to insist that political issues -- specifically, the Navalny affair and the need for a robust European response -- must be kept apart from economic ones, notably infrastructure projects that are seen as essential for Europe's energy security.

    Ms Merkel was asked in late August, shortly after Mr Navalny had arrived in Berlin for treatment, if Germany should quit Nord Stream 2. Her response was clear: the two issues should, she said, be "decoupled". Nord Stream 2 should be completed, she added, since it would be operated by economic actors in both Russia and Europe. There is no reason to believe her view has changed since then -- novichok or no novichok."

    How sad – the Germans just do not seem to care about Navalny! Unless it is the 95% of Germans who are outside the government (apart from the Greens) and the business community. Ich weiß, welche Seite meines Brotes gebuttert ist.

    https://www.ft.com/content/a26cacdf-7238-4417-b0b7-696eeeeb239c

    CORTES September 25, 2020 at 2:48 am

    Does the name of the person begin with a K?

    MARK CHAPMAN September 25, 2020 at 9:45 am

    Why, yes; yes, it does. Fortune favours the bold.

    TROND September 25, 2020 at 1:21 pm

    Lykken står den kjekke veps.

    Sorry, i just had to say that

    MARK CHAPMAN September 24, 2020 at 7:11 pm

    Hmmmmm

    https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Iran-Opens-Navy-Base-At-Worlds-Most-Crucial-Oil-Chokepoint.html

    MARK CHAPMAN September 24, 2020 at 10:14 pm

    Balconies.

    Where's me doubloon?

    MOSCOWEXILE September 25, 2020 at 1:26 am

    It's in the post.

    [Sep 29, 2020] President Duterte is said to have ordered police and the military to shoot dead anyone who defied or protested COVID-19 lockdown orders on the island of Luzon

    Sep 29, 2020 | thenewkremlinstooge.wordpress.com

    JEN September 27, 2020 at 6:00 pm

    President Duterte is said to have ordered police and the military to shoot dead anyone who defied or protested COVID-19 lockdown orders on the island of Luzon – the largest island and the most populous in the Philippines – back in March / April 2020. The sources for this news are nearly all MSM sources and Amnesty International.

    Duterte is the first Filipino President to have come from outside the political elite based in Manila. This in itself makes him an easy target for Washington who would rather get rid of someone they don't know or can't control instead of try to understand where he is coming from and work with him.

    As mayor of Davao City in Mindanao, in the southern part of the country, Duterte had promoted policies to help disadvantaged women in areas of reproductive rights education and fighting domestic violence. As any fule knows from following the MSM, Duterte is supposedly a misogynist who makes crude fun of women. In addition, Duterte has expressed interest in working with China and establishing better relations with Beijing, and this in itself, coming from a leader of a former US colony, makes him a potential target for regime change tactics.

    I'd be very careful of anything reported about what Duterte says or doesn't say by the mainstream press and groups like Amnesty International: it is very likely that Duterte's utterances are taken out of context and twisted into something that conforms to a stereotype depicting him as crude, violent and Stone Age, and consequently encourages the Western public to accept his forced removal if and when the opportunity presents itself.

    JULIUS SKOOLAFISH September 28, 2020 at 3:47 am

    "I'd be very careful of anything reported about what Duterte says or doesn't say by the mainstream press and groups like Amnesty International "

    I totally concur.

    I have been a long time admirer of President Duterte (as has a niece-in-law of mine).

    I have a great dossier of his speeches and interviews. For example:
    • Interview with Maria Finoshina on RT – a true investigative journalist.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHjlCmdyesY

    But then I started seeing him parading around with his full cabinet in those ridiculous masks and wondered if 'they' had got to him.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F254mUYqLb8&t=591

    And then this.
    https://21stcenturywire.com/2020/08/08/covid-crazy-philippines-to-require-commuters-to-wear-face-shields-and-masks/

    Still hopeful

    MARK CHAPMAN September 27, 2020 at 12:22 pm

    Did he actually say that, in so many words, in instructions to the police? "Shoot anyone you want"?

    JRKRIDEAU September 27, 2020 at 6:49 pm

    Well it is a paraphrase but basically yes.but it was aimed at drug dealers. I had not heard about the Covid-19 orders that Jen mentioned but it sounds a bit like something he would say.

    Apparently a lot of people have been shot but I cannot remember the figures. Possibly in the 1,000s?

    Jen, also, has a good point that he is not from the elite and the MSM media.

    MARK CHAPMAN September 28, 2020 at 4:37 am

    And he has incurred the wrath of the USA by evicting the American military presence. Adding insult to injury by punctuating it with "I can always go to China".

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/rodrigo-duterte-orders-us-forces-out-philippines-cutting-65-years-military-ties-a7353961.html

    I'm sure the USA didn't maintain military facilities there for 65 years because they like the climate.

    [Sep 29, 2020] The Mayor of Nashville was caught red-handed discussing via email how to hush up the relatively-small numbers of cases that were linked to restaurants and bars, because putting restaurants and bars back into lockdown was the decided-upon action that would be taken to show the eejits in the electorate that their elected officials are looking out for public health.

    Sep 29, 2020 | thenewkremlinstooge.wordpress.com

    MARK CHAPMAN September 26, 2020 at 6:33 pm

    Ha, ha, haaaaa!!! Booga-booga!! Coronavirus is gonna getcha!!!

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nashville-mayors-office-and-health-department-hid-coronavirus-data/ar-BB1993V7

    Yes, indeedy, the Mayor of Nashville was caught red-handed discussing via email how to hush up the relatively-small numbers of cases that were linked to restaurants and bars, because putting restaurants and bars back into lockdown was the decided-upon action that would be taken to show the eejits in the electorate that their elected officials are looking out for public health.

    One more time – COVID-19 is real. It's not fabricated, but the way it is being ridden to political Nirvana is unprecedented, and if it does not destroy the global economy altogether, putting us back to the barter system and working for food, it will be a fucking miracle.

    [Sep 26, 2020] The Stockdale Paradox

    Notable quotes:
    "... You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end -- which you can never afford to lose -- with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be. ..."
    Sep 26, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

    grug-cave-head , 2 hours ago

    Let me post something.

    The Stockdale Paradox[ edit ]

    James C. Collins related a conversation he had with Stockdale regarding his coping strategy during his period in the Vietnamese POW camp. [21] [ non-primary source needed ] When Collins asked which prisoners didn't make it out of Vietnam, Stockdale replied:

    Oh, that's easy, the optimists. Oh, they were the ones who said, 'We're going to be out by Christmas.' And Christmas would come, and Christmas would go. Then they'd say, 'We're going to be out by Easter.' And Easter would come, and Easter would go. And then Thanksgiving, and then it would be Christmas again. And they died of a broken heart. This is a very important lesson.

    You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end -- which you can never afford to lose -- with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be. [22]

    Collins called this the Stockdale Paradox. [21]

    [Sep 26, 2020] Cure worse than the disease- Study says UK lockdown linked to thousands of excess deaths

    Highly recommended!
    Sep 26, 2020 | www.rt.com

    Thousands of Britons who suffer heart attacks and strokes are dying at home instead of seeking medical treatment, a new study has found, as new government figures show 75,000 are projected to die as a result of lockdown measures.

    Stay-at-home orders prompted countless people suffering from serious medical conditions to avoid hospitals, according to the study's findings, which were published in the Heart medical journal and first reported by the Daily Mail. The paper noted that deaths from heart disease in private homes surged by 35 percent from March to July, resulting in 2,279 more fatalities on average over the past six years. However, heart and stroke deaths in hospitals dropped by around 1,400 during the same period, suggesting that some who chose to stay home would have died anyway even if they had been hospitalized. The researchers calculated that in total, there were 2,085 excess deaths in England and Wales that could be linked to heart attack and stroke sufferers who refused to seek out medical treatment. This means that between March 2 and June 30, every day 17 people died needlessly from heart attacks.

    ... ... ...

    [Sep 18, 2020] Effects of riots vs effect of Presidential rallies on COVID-19 spread in the USA large cities

    Protests potentially nullified all potential positive effects from lookdown in large cities like NYC, if such exist. So all economic damage was in vain and lockdown was just a capricious and arbitrary move by ambitious and power hungry Dem politicians. And that fact alone make the major on NYC and the governor on NY state look like completely politicized idiots.
    If the crowd is dense, as often is the case in riots at places of confrontation with the police cordon, it does not matter much if people are indoor or outdoor, what matters if the length of the contact. Add to this that looting happens indoors.
    Sep 18, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

    ...On Wednesday, Trump campaign communications director Tim Murtaugh called out CNN's hypocrisy on this matter, noting that "if people can protest in the streets by the tens of thousands, if people can riot, if people can gamble in casinos, then certainly they can gather peaceably under the First Amendment to hear from the president of the United States."

    https://www.mrctv.org/embed/553665

    https://www.mrctv.org/videos/shameless-cnn-says-blm-protests-are-safe-covid-not-trump-rallies

    Butthurt from this exchange, CNN Newsroom drafted in "medical analyst" Leana Wen , who happens to be a former Planned Parenthood president, to explain why science means COVID doesn't affect BLM protests as much as Trump rallies.

    "It does not care why it is that people are gathering but it does care about the conditions under which they're gathering," Wen argued, adding "outdoors much safer than indoors and wearing masks obviously much safer than not wearing masks."

    "I would also in this case would distinguish between the behavior of the participants while at protests versus rallies," she continued, arguing that BLM protesters are more "aware" of the risks than Trump supporters.

    "At protests many people are aware of the risks and doing everything they can to reduce that risk versus at many of the rallies we are seeing people going in defiance," Wen claimed.

    [Sep 15, 2020] Fauci- -I Have To Disagree- With Trump On COVID -Rounding The Corner

    There are very few Fauci enthusiasts among ZeroHedge crowd
    Sep 15, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

    Authored by Michael Nadler via AmericanThinker.com,

    American Thinker has run several articles like this one about Dr. Anthony Fauci's political bias (which is his right). But the Miami Herald published an article that was aimed at undermining President Trump , which actually contains compelling evidence that Fauci's bias or ignorance is affecting what he is telling the American people about Covid-19. In the article, Dr. Fauci: 'I have to disagree' with Trump on coronavirus , the author writes:

    Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious diseases expert, disagreed on Friday with President Donald Trump's assertion that the country is "rounding the corner" on the coronavirus pandemic.

    "I really do believe we're rounding the corner," Trump said during a White House briefing on Thursday. He added that newweekly cases have gone down by 44% since July.

    "I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with that because if you look at the thing that you just mentioned, the statistics, Andrea, they're disturbing," Fauci told MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell on Friday.

    "We're plateauing at around 40,000 cases a day and the deaths are around 1,000.

    From his interview with Andrea Mitchell Friday, the Herald quotes Fauci as stating, "We're plateauing at around 40,000 cases a day and the deaths are around 1,000."

    In fact, he is very wrong : the average daily new cases for the past two weeks have been 31,411, dramatically less than Fauci's 40,000 number; and the average daily deaths for the past two-weeks have been 697, a full 30% less than Fauci's 1,000.

    More significant, do these graphs of weekly average new cases (blue graph) and deaths (red graph) from Bloomberg look like we're "plateauing?"

    Source: Bloomberg

    Fauci has a right and obligation to express his views about the current situation and the future risks, but he should not mislead the public about the facts.

    As a reminder, here are his comments from last week:

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    "We've been through this before," he said. "Don't ever, ever underestimate the potential of the pandemic. And don't try and look at the rosy side of things."

    "I keep looking at that curve, and I get more depressed and more depressed about the fact that we never really get down to the baseline that I'd like," he said.


    EmmittFitzhume , 59 minutes ago

    Deep State Fauci has to go. Perhaps to prison

    GoldenDebt , 58 minutes ago

    Dr FRAUDci is non stop lying and flip-flopping

    SMSpiff , 42 minutes ago

    It's safe to come out of your basement now, Joe.

    Pope Innocent III , 37 minutes ago

    The nature of the Fauci scam is the total intentional destruction of induction and deduction.

    Jerky Miester , 32 minutes ago

    You've been ****ting up this board for 3 years 7 months, you little phaqqot. Time to get out of the basement and earn an honest living....unless you make your bread and beer money being a pro troll. KYS now.

    NotAGenius , 39 minutes ago

    This is the legal argument to indict Fauci on mass murder charges, justified but justice no longer exists in the USA, written by a legal writer. These comments and Fauci's crimes would convict Fauci of mass murder and sentence him to prison for life:

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/08/bad_medicine_on_hcq_faucis_waterloo.html .

    Covidiot Lvr , 7 minutes ago

    Zeroes want Fauci's head on a stick...but decry liberals who interfere with the free speech rights of conservatives on college campuses.

    Free speech or no free speech - which is it, Zeroes?

    knopperz , 55 minutes ago

    The flu vaccination is now 78 years around.
    The flu is still there.

    Next Stop --> 78 Years wearing a diaper in your face.
    Get used to it suckers.

    All those people pushing the Corona Narrative should be hanged by the Balls.

    CheapBastard , 53 minutes ago

    We are obviously rounding the corner with fewer cases and fewer deaths. Most businesses trying to reopen. Fauci is political hack and was from the start. he's also totally incompetent or a liar giving Americans completely wrong advice from the start. The MSM loves him because he's anti-Trump.

    2hangmen , 54 minutes ago

    Fauci has been wrong since day 1 on Covid. He's done multiple 180s on policies, and the fact this is NOT a deadly virus in comparison to all other virus outbreaks. He's still playing politics and he's still making millions from Big Pharma and the Deep State. Fauci, please say good bye, and ride off into the sunset with your ill gotten gains.

    NotAGenius , 44 minutes ago

    Trump can't fire Fauci. He is a career government employee. Trump gave him a platform in the beginning. Trump has been right about Fauci now and mostly about this cold virus too, advocating the best medicine possible for it - hcq - while Fauci prevented Americans from getting this cheap commercial safe and effective medical treatment. Fauci has committed mass murder by withholding a life-saving medicine from Americans. The FDA is criminal too, same reason. FDA has also been paying hospitals $39,000 for every patient they kill with the fatal ventilators, killing more than saving according to records. But the government wants more deaths for bigger numbers. The American medical system is actually a genocidal organization now, trying to kill as many Americans as possible in many different ways, many associated with this medical fraud. Fauci should be imprisoned for life were any justice to exist in America. At best, Trump can minimize and ignore him and arrange for him to have no venue to spout b.s. and lies publicly. That's what we basically need: Fauci minimized if not disappeared.

    blueapples Staff , 33 minutes ago

    Why would he ever fire the fall guy? If he fired him, you'd still have the push for lockdowns, the policies based on flawed statistical models, and all the other nonsense. Except then without a guy like Fauci to place blame on, the administrations role in this becomes much more apparent.

    It makes more sense to have a guy like Fauci on board to deflect to, especially given his career as a government employee, so that it looks like there's some nefarious underlying force that is working against the administration when the reality is that that nefarious underlying force is working in tandem with it.

    JaWS , 49 minutes ago

    Damn the cases. I know about 10 people that have tested positive for covid19. Most cases are not much more than a cold. Some not even that bad. Look at the deaths. That's where the narrative should go. They are significantly down from the peak.

    Samual Vimes , 23 minutes ago

    SAY WHAT! -- FDA is outsourcing Covid-19 testing to 10 Chinese companies

    serotonindumptruck , 38 minutes ago

    "Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious diseases expert ..."

    I have to disagree with this.

    SummerSausage , 36 minutes ago

    If they left off the word "expert" it would be an accurate statement.

    Bollixed , 6 minutes ago

    Fauci is an expert. An 'ex' is a has-been and a 'spert' is a drip under pressure. He fits the bill perfectly.

    curtisw , 9 minutes ago

    "Because I have a vaccine to peddle."

    -- A. Fauci

    scottyji , 19 minutes ago

    FAUCI BELONGS IN PRISON.

    Fauci's narcissisticly obsessed with his "expert image" and his lucrative role as pimp for Big Pharma = total Napoleon Complex, two-faced, stinkin' bureaucrat of the Deep State.

    Ergo I.C. , 28 minutes ago

    Because Fauci and his buddy Bill Gates are trying peddle vaccines worth billions of dollars.

    adr , 39 minutes ago

    Since Fauchi is supposedly an expert, maybe he can tell us why people suffering from hay fever are being told they have Covid.

    Solarstone , 30 minutes ago

    Because you can have both. Try again

    CallingDrFraudschi , 25 minutes ago

    Proof please.

    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

    In our systematic review, we identified 10 RCTs that reported estimates of the effectiveness of face masks in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infections in the community from literature published during 1946–July 27, 2018. In pooled analysis, we found no significant reduction in influenza transmission with the use of face masks (RR 0.78, 95% CI 0.51–1.20; I 2 = 30%, p = 0.25)

    https://swprs.org/who-mask-study-seriously-flawed/

    A. General flaws

    1. Of the 29 studies analyzed by the Lancet meta-study, seven studies are unpublished and non-peer-reviewed observational studies that should not be used to guide clinical practice according to the medRxiv disclaimer (references 3, 4, 31, 36, 37, 40 and 70; see table above).
    2. Of the 29 studies considered by the meta-study, only four are about the SARS-CoV-2 virus ; the other 25 studies are about the SARS-1 virus or the MERS virus, both of which have very different transmission characteristics: they were transmitted almost exclusively by severely ill hospitalized patients and not by community transmission.
    3. Of the four studies relating to the SARS-CoV-2 virus, two were misinterpreted by the Lancet meta-study authors ( refs. 44 and 70 ), one is inconclusive ( ref. 37 ), and one is about N95 (FFP2) respirators and not about medical masks or cloth masks (see detailed analysis below).
    4. The Lancet meta-study is used to guide global facemask policy for the general population. However, of the 29 studies considered by the meta-study, only three are classified as relating to a non-health-care (i.e. community) setting . Of these three studies, one is misclassified ( ref. 50 , relating to a hospital environment), one showed no benefit of facemasks ( ref. 69 ), and one is a poorly designed retrospective study about SARS-1 in Beijing based on telephone interviews ( ref. 74 ). None of these studies refer to SARS-CoV-2.
    5. The authors of the Lancet meta-study acknowledge that the certainty of the evidence regarding facemasks is "low" as all of the studies are observational and none is a randomized controlled trial (RCT). The WHO itself admitted that its updated facemask policy guidelines were based not on new evidence but on "political lobbying" .

    In view of these shortcomings, University of Toronto epidemiology professor Peter Jueni called the WHO study "methodologically flawed" and "essentially useless".

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    1. In the US state of Kansas , the 90 counties without mask mandates had lower coronavirus infection rates than the 15 counties with mask mandates. To hide this fact, the Kansas health department tried to manipulate the official statistics and data presentation.
    Consuelo , 36 minutes ago

    Fauci has been torpedoed here --- even without his lying numbers (of cases & deaths). With the actual non-LYING numbers, he should be stripped of his medical license and prosecuted for gross negligence, even gross-er Incompetence, and for potential Criminal $Gain off his rather cozy relationship with Big Pharma and Bill Gates...

    This whole thing was a $SCAM of the highest order.

    aelfheld , 34 minutes ago

    Fauci's a bureaucrat.

    Bureaucrats have unqualified immunity.

    Everybodys All American , 43 minutes ago

    During the Spanish Flu of 1918 no one as I can tell was advocating for everyone to be vaccinated either for or against their will. That tells you everything about this Dr. Fauci imo. He should be removed from the planet.

    drstrangelove73 , 6 minutes ago

    I've posted about Tony several times this year.I spent an academic quarter as a medical student on his service at the NIH,then saw him again many times in the 80's when I returned as a fellow.He is a lifelong democrat,and card carrying member of the deep state who has played politics with the management of viral infections for 40 years.Let that sink in.He has been the director of the same NIH institute for 40 years.No one else in the history of the institute has been a director for half that long.You think he doesn't know how to play the game? _arrow

    asteroids , 14 minutes ago

    How does Fauci explane Sweden? The number of new cases is very low. Their death rate is almost zero. Sweden now has herd immunity without a vaccine.

    Hyzer , 9 minutes ago

    He pretends it doesn't exist, just like the MSM.

    TannyDanner , 3 minutes ago

    He's trusting the plebs won't do their own research. I'm looking at the data almost daily and am beyond thankful that Sweden had the balls to go about it the way they did and not bow down to the bullies.

    legalize , 18 minutes ago
    Useful_Idiot714 , 35 minutes ago

    700 mostly old people with other diseases are dying from this each day in a country of 325,000,000. Sounds like we need mail in voting so that the frightened commies can vote early and often to save us by electing a senile racist rapist pedophile.

    SummerSausage , 46 minutes ago

    Panic is Fauci's objective.

    Democrats love big government which means more power for Fauci, more taxes and less freedom for you.

    Robert Paulson , 30 minutes ago

    Panic is too unpredictable, and disruptive.

    The "hope" is for respectful, solemn acceptance that Big Brother/Sister can save "us" from ill health, poverty and international "enemies."

    I mean **** was broken across most institutions throughout Western Civilization before the flu was weaponized into a means of control. But the whole theater has become absurd.

    Loser Face , 16 minutes ago

    Everyone should watch this video, which explains the US mortality curve: https://youtu.be/8UvFhIFzaac

    The casedemic is pure and blatant FUD targeted towards Trump and Americans.

    JamcaicanMeAfraid , 27 minutes ago

    I predict on November 4th and if Dementia Joe is elected Fauci and his super ego will stand before any microphone put in fromt of him and say "Joe Biden has put a stop to covid, he has conquered the virus."

    aelfheld , 44 minutes ago

    Fauci sees the statistics as disturbing because they indicate an endpoint to his prominence.

    JaWS , 51 minutes ago

    There are 4 men in my county that were tested positive within about 3 days of each other and they had to quarantine for 14 days. About a week into it they started meeting everyday down at the local fishing hole to fish while no one else was around. One of these men is 80 years old. The other 3 are in their 70s. Does this sound like something to shut the entire country down?

    GoldenDebt , 1 hour ago

    Dont be a moron

    Dr Fraudci is all politics and he's LYING. Dr FRAUDci also never condemned the protests as being potential SUPER-SPREADER events

    He's a criminal

    moneybots , 13 minutes ago

    "I really do believe we're rounding the corner," Trump said during a White House briefing on Thursday. He added that newweekly cases have gone down by 44% since July.

    "I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with that because if you look at the thing that you just mentioned, the statistics, Andrea, they're disturbing," Fauci told Andrea Mitchell on Friday.

    The statistics say Trump is right, according to the chart. Why is Fauci lying to the American people?

    Thalamus , 45 minutes ago

    Fauci's worst case prediction of 1.7 million deaths from Covid-19 kind of came up short at only 10K; but at least he didn't yell fire in a crowded theater .

    Zerogenous_Zone , 48 minutes ago

    which statistics?

    to quote the great Mark Twain (now classified by the leftists as a rassiss)...

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics ."

    the one statistic that is relevant, is the decrease in mortality...

    and I for one, would like to know how they created a Covid-19 specific test...wait...what was that?

    THEY HAVEN'T?! it is an antigen test...that is, if you have any residual from your LAST flu shot (they inject you with lysed virus to build up your antibody count...antigens!) you could test positive...

    and probably a majority of the tests are at issue since the test is highly inaccurate...

    but who cares? the virus is out of the box and here to stay...so you have either already been exposed, or you will soon be exposed...and NO vaccine will be sufficient (since viral strains mutate almost immediately)...especially the comment cold (news flash!! the 'common cold' is a CORONAVIRUS!!)

    [Sep 11, 2020] Out Of The Memory Hole -- The Dystopian Thread From 9-11 To The COVID Hysteria -

    Sep 11, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

    Authored by Edward Curtin via EdwardCurtin.com,

    For anyone old enough to have been alive and aware of the attacks of September 11, 2001 and of so-called COVID-19 in 2020, memory may serve to remind one of an eerie parallel between the two operations.

    However, if memory has been expunged by the work of one's forgettery or deleted by the corporate media's flushing it down the memory hole, or if knowledge is lacking, or maybe fear or cognitive dissonance is blocking awareness , I would like to point out some similarities that might perk one up to consider some parallels and connections between these two operations.

    The fundamental tie that binds them is that both events aroused the human fear of death.

    Underlying all fears is the fear of death. A fear that has both biological and cultural roots. On the biological level, we all react to death threats in a fight or flight manner. Culturally, there are multiple ways that fear can be allayed or exacerbated, purposely or not. Usually, culture serves to ease the fear of death, which can traumatize people, through its symbols and myths. Religion has for a long time served that purpose, but when religion loses its hold on people's imaginations, especially in regard to the belief in immortality, as Orwell pointed out in the mid-1940s, a huge void is left. Without that consolation, fear is usually tranquilized by trivial pursuits.

    In the cases of the attacks of September 11, 2001 and the current corona virus operation, the fear of death has been used by the power elites in order to control populations and institute long-planned agendas. There is a red thread that connects the two events.

    Both events were clearly anticipated and planned.

    In the case of September 11, 2001, as I have argued before , linguistic mind-control was carefully crafted in advance to conjure fear at the deepest levels with the use of such repeated terms as Pearl Harbor, Homeland, Ground Zero, the Unthinkable, and 9/11. Each in its turns served to raise the fear level dramatically. Each drew on past meetings, documents, events, speeches, and deep associations of dread. This language was conjured from the chief sorcerer's playbook, not from that of an apprentice out of control.

    And as David Ray Griffin, the seminal 9/11 researcher (and others), has pointed out in a dozen meticulously argued and documented books , the events of that day had to be carefully planned in advance, and the post hoc official explanations can only be described as scientific miracles, not scientific explanations. These miracles include: massive steel-framed high-rise buildings for the first time in history coming down without explosives or incendiaries in free fall speed; one of them being WTC-7 that was not even hit by a plane; an alleged hijacker pilot, Hani Hanjour, who could barely fly a Piper Cub, flying a massive Boeing 757 in a most difficult maneuver into the Pentagon; airport security at four airports failing at the same moment on the same day; all sixteen U.S. intelligence agencies failing; air traffic control failing, etc. The list goes on and on. And all this controlled by Osama bin Laden. It's a fairy tale.

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    Then we had the crucially important anthrax attacks that are linked to 9/11. Graeme MacQueen, in The 2001 Anthrax Deception , brilliantly shows that these too were a domestic conspiracy.

    These planned events led to the invasion of Afghanistan, the Patriot Act, the U.S. withdrawal from the ABM Treaty, the invasion of Iraq , the ongoing war on terror, etc.

    Let us not forget years of those fraudulent color-coded warnings of the terrorist levels and the government admonition to use duct tape around your windows to protect against a massive chemical and biological attack.

    Jump to 2020 .

    Let me start in reverse while color-coded designs are fresh in our minds. As the COVID-19 lockdowns were under way, a funny thing happened as people were wishing that life could return to normal and they could be let out of their cages. Similar color-coded designs popped up everywhere at the same time. They showed the step-by-step schedule of possible loosening of government controls if things went according to plan. Red to yellow to green. Eye catching. Red orange yellow blue green. As with the terrorist warnings following September 11, 2001. In Massachusetts, a so-called blue state where I live, it's color chart ends in blue, not green, with Phase 4 blue termed "the new normal: Development of vaccines and/or treatments enable the resumption of 'the new normal.'" Interesting wording. A resumption that takes us back to the future.

    As with the duct tape admonitions after 9/11, now everyone is advised to wear a mask. It's interesting to note that the 3 M Company, a major seller of duct tape, is also one of the world's major sellers of face masks. The company was expected to be producing 50 million N95 respirator masks per month by June 2020 and 2 billion globally within the coming year. Then there is 3 M's masking tape but this is a sticky topic.

    After the attacks of September 11, 2001, we were told repeatedly that the world was changed forever. Now we are told that after COVID 19, life will never be the same. This is the "new normal," while the post-9/11-pre-Covid-19 world must have been the old new normal. So everything is different but normal also. So as the Massachusetts government website puts it, in the days to come we may be enabled to enact "the resumption of 'the new normal.'" This new old normal will no doubt be a form of techno-fascist transhumanism enacted for our own good.

    As with 9/11, there is ample evidence that the corona virus outbreak was expected and planned; that people have been the victims of a propaganda campaign to use an invisible virus to scare us into submission and shut down the world's economy for the global elites. It is a clear case, as Peter Koenig tells Michel Chossudovsky in this must-see interview , that is not a conspiracy theory but a blatant factual plan spelled out in the 2010 Rockefeller Report , the October 18, 2019 Event 201 , and Agenda 21 , among other places.

    Like amorphous terrorists and a war against "terrorism," which is a tactic and therefore not something you can fight, a virus is invisible except when the media presents it as a pale, orange-spiked bunch of floating weird balls that are everywhere and nowhere. Watch your back, watch your face, mask up, wash your hands, keep your distance – you never know when those orange spiked balls may get you.

    As with 9/11, whenever anyone questions the official narrative of Covid-19, the official statistics, the validity of the tests, the effectiveness of masks , the powers behind the heralded vaccine to come, and the horrible consequences of the lockdowns that are destroying economies, killing people, forcing people to despair and to commit suicide, creating traumatized children, bankrupting small and middle-sized businesses for the sake of enriching the richest, etc., the corporate media mock the dissidents as conspiracy nuts, aiding the viral enemy.

    This is so even when the dissenters are highly respected doctors, scientists, intellectuals, et al., who are regularly disappeared from the internet. With September 11, there were initially far fewer dissenters than now, and so the censorship of opposing viewpoints didn't need the blatant censorship that is now growing daily.

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    This censorship happens all across the internet now, quickly and stealthily, the same internet that is being forced on everyone as the new normal as presented in the Great Global Reset , the digital lie, where, as Anthony Fauci put it, no one should ever shake hands again.

    A world of abstract images and beings in which, as Arthur Jensen tells Howard Beal in the film, Network , "All necessities [will be] provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused." A digital dystopia that is fast approaching as perhaps the end of that red thread that runs from 9/11 to today.

    Heidi Evens and Thomas Hackett write in the New York Daily News :

    With the nation's illusion of safety and security in ruins, Americans begin the slow and fitful process of healing from a trauma that feels deeply, cruelly personal leaving citizens throughout the country with the frightening knowledge of their vulnerability.

    That was written on September 12, 2001.

    [Sep 10, 2020] Munk Debates- Scientific Community Has Over-Reacted To COVID-19 Threat ( The Data Proves It) -

    Sep 10, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

    Via MunkDebates.com,

    Are we overreacting to COVID-19?

    Be it Resolved, the scientific community has overreacted to the threat of COVID-19 and the data prove it...

    Six months into a global pandemic and 63,000 scientific papers later, scientists and medical researchers continue to be perplexed by COVID-19. There are many unknowns with the virus, and one of the most controversial is how deadly it really is. Since the beginning of the pandemic, leading health institutions such as the World Health Organization and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases have warned that COVID-19 is much more dangerous than the seasonal flu and that, without expansive public health measures, millions of people around the world could die from the virus.

    But there are some in the scientific community who disagree. And they say they have the data to prove it. Antibody testing of large population groups indicates that we could be grossly underestimating the number of people who have been infected by the virus – which means we are dramatically overestimating the death rate. Given these findings, they question whether sweeping public health controls are the way to approach a possible second wave of COVID-19 this autumn.

    GUESTS

    To understand the true prevalence of COVID-19 infections in the United States, Jay Bhattacharya has recently undertaken several seroprevalence studies (the study of antibodies in a population). You can read about his study of Santa Clara County in California here and his study of 5,600 Major League Baseball employees here .

    Sten Vermund has published numerous scholarly studies on infectious diseases, which you can view here .

    During the debate both Jay and Sten speak about COVID-19's "infection fatality rate" (IFR). IFR is one of the most important characteristics of an infectious disease in determining its severity. It is basically the ultimate measure of a disease's ability to cause death. You can learn more about IFR and how it is estimated here . In the debate, both Jay and Sten agree that the current estimates of the COVID-19 infection fatality rates are overestimated and therefore misleading. To learn more, read Jay's Wall Street Journal op ed.

    During the debate, Sten points out that between March and May of 2020 there was a 19 per cent excess death rate in the United States. Excess death rates refer to the difference between the observed numbers of deaths in specific time period and expected number of deaths in the same time period. According to Sten, the excess rates are probably 28 per cent higher than the official deaths tally of COVID-19 because so many cases are not reported. This Nature.com article supports this view.

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    Jay argues that part of the science community's overreaction to COVID-19 has been censorship of unpopular scientific views . Jay refers to an op ed in the New York Times by Michael Eisen that expresses concern about how scientific study pre-prints are being released before they are peer reviewed, and calling for the establishment of a scientific "rapid review" service for pre-prints.

    One of the scientists Jay identifies as having an unorthodox view on COVID-19 is Gabriela Gomez, She speaks about her research on herd immunity occurring when as little as ten percent of the population has been infected with the virus here and you can read her research article here .

    Sten and Jay disagree with each other about the feasibility of isolating the most vulnerable members of society, particularly the elderly, while letting the rest of the population continue to live normally . Sten refers to a New York Times article by David Katz which supports the strategy of "vertical interdiction", where those over 60 are "preferentially protected."

    Jay refers to the recent release of findings from a Public Health England study that found negligible spread among one million students who returned to school in June.

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    During the debate Jay identifies Sweden's approach to COVID-19 as a model for the world, while Sten argues it represents a failed strategy. You can decide for yourself by listening to the Munk Debate, Be it resolved, Sweden is the model for how to fight this pandemic and the next.

    Listen to the full debate below:

    https://www.iheart.com/podcast/962-the-munk-debates-podcast-p-52131924/episode/be-it-resolved-the-scientific-community-71215453/?embed=true


    [Sep 09, 2020] America Has Always Run on Terror -

    Sep 09, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

    America Has Always Run On Terror

    From bomb drills to COVID lockdowns, protective rituals based on irrational fear are a mainstay of American culture. A masked TSA agent at Bradley International Airport, CT. (By Eric K. Warncke/Shutterstock)

    SEPTEMBER 8, 2020

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    PETER VAN BUREN

    With the 19th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks looming like a hangover it is worth asking the price we pay for fear itself. Barack Obama said at his convention you must vote Democrat out of fear for our democracy. Don Jr. said pretty much the same a week later, just reversing the names and the politics. Everyone wants you to be afraid of anarchy, either the white or black version. The message from all sides is fear. It sounds so 2020 but it is as old as the modern era.

    America's fear in my childhood was that we were going to die at school when the Russians nuked America. We hid under our desks during drills, we huddled away from the windows with our coats over our heads and waited to die. For an elementary student raised to believe what he was taught, it was a nightmare. My third grade teacher even identified Ground Zero as the cinder parking lot next to the school, and for some reason told us it would happen in the morning.

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    Americans were taught to be afraid even as we were the apex predator on the planet with the world's only atomic bomb. We dutifully rewarded president after president for maintaining the most massive national security state ever known, but we never felt safe. We spent the best years of the American Century huddled like shelter dogs. We never saw that it was all a trick, like conjuring a pandemic out of a virus which doesn't even cause symptoms in many of its hosts and unlike almost anything else, like cancer or heart attacks, has a fatality rate well below a single percent (so we count cases, not fatalities -- to generate fear). As with terrorism, diabetes and ladder falls harm more American lives than the Russians.

    In the face of COVID, living in daily fear of terrorism seems almost nostalgic. For me, our first family plane trip after 9/11 started at a Japanese airport where security seemed about the same as before. But when we transferred to a U.S. domestic flight the world changed.

    The newly-erect TSA tore into us. After shouting at my lack of preparedness to present various documents quickly enough, they pulled my pre-teen daughter away and impounded a nail clipper and some sort of medieval-looking eyebrow curling device. She started to cry, and when I tried to go to her I was held back. A security incident was underway I was told. The TSA agent said harshly to her "I'm trying to keep you from dying on that airplane!" My little one started to say something, but I shouted to her to be quiet. I'd learned at some eastern European border checkpoint long ago the only answer. Submit and board the plane. Submit and we can see grandma tonight at our destination.

    Later, as a federal whistleblower, I was placed on some sort of list. I could fly, but my trips through the airport would be met with a firm "Sir, I need you to step over here." The protocols created to protect me from terrorists had been twisted to turn me into one. Every time I was told I had been randomly selected, wonderfully Orwellian in how the TSA workers at least seemed to believe it.

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    I of course could refuse to hand over my electronics, but TSA would just confiscate them, so why resist? Of course I could speak to a supervisor, but I'd miss my flight. My old computer took minutes to cold boot and that angered the TSA agents and prolonged my searches. So I bought a fast Chromebook to make my surveillance more convenient.

    In a perfect melding of fears the 9/11 Memorial Museum showed us how much of this is farce. After being closed since March to protect us from COVID they will reopen to the general public on September 12. A symbolic day for sure but one with no science behind it. Why not September 3 or 24? Because it doesn't matter, the danger was never very real. And the museum, with its cavernous interiors (it is built into the basements of the old Twin Towers) is allowed to host only 25 percent of its capacity. Same for every other museum in NYC, 25 percent whether they have state-of-the-art HVAC systems and thousands of square feet or are contained within early 19th century parlors. It doesn't matter because it doesn't matter; there's no science behind it because there is no serious threat behind it.

    In New York we are told it will be the death of us to reopen restaurants for a quick meal, but from day one of the virus we have been welcome to sit in poorly ventilated subway cars. We can't have more than a handful of customers inside a store, but we can spend six hours inside an airplane cabin. Ten people gathered for a party is a death trap but 300 massed for a BLM protest isn't. The less it makes sense the more it makes sense to just submit and go along, because thinking is hard.

    So it is no surprise I wear a mask outside. I alone seem to remember enough from biology class to question how a soggy piece of cloth, or a dust mask with an air escape valve on the side (i.e., your virus-laden exhaled breath goes out) is unlikely to do much, like hanging garlic to ward off vampires. But I am allowed to buy milk at the store with a mask. I am allowed to be part of society. I can avoid being scolded by the self-appointed mask Jugend . I can have a socially distanced conversation with my Democrat neighbor who believes she will literally risk her life to vote in-person, saving democracy itself after Trump supposedly gutted the post office. Like many, she has an Old Testament view of the virus; it is both punishment for electing Trump and the way of delivering us from him.

    Those irrational fears from the Cold War and post-9/11 are nothing compared to today; imagine the McCarthy Red Scare powered by social media. Every week it has been something new that will destroy us -- war with North Korea and Iran, Boogaloo Bois, Trump the Manchurian Candidate, not enough beds, and not enough ventilators. We're worried a fascist government is taking away free speech and we're worried the government isn't doing enough to suppress free speech to stop hate. There are too many guns for us to be safe and not enough guns to protect us.

    After a decade of terrorists everywhere (when they were actually nowhere) we transition to live in terror of the virus. People not only support the restrictions and lockdowns, they want more to feel safer, much like Americans demanded more nukes thinking they'd sleep better during the Cold War. The enemy is those who oppose more retrictions.

    It's not to say people do not die from the virus or there aren't reasons to take prudent action. It's to say what we are doing in response does not keep many more alive for the price we are paying. Same story as with terrorism, the Cold War, whatever noise makes you jump in the dark. The bark outweighed the bite.

    Fear as a policy has yielded a nuclear arms race which nearly destroyed the world, the lost decade of freedoms sacrificed to protection from terrorism, and the hundreds of thousands dead in pointless revenge wars. Now comes the wasted spring, summer, and autumns of COVID overreaction, destroying the economy and breaking the spirit of people. The goal of conditioning through fear is always the same.

    Because submission scales. Decades-long nuclear arms race? OK. Support a war in Afghanistan and Iraq and Syria and Libya and Yemen and Somalia? Patriot Act, torture, prison camps, drone assassinations? Yes is always the easiest way to imagine you can allay fear forever until the next scary thing is revealed. Yale welcomes students back to campus with all sorts of restrictions then warns them they will see death in their dorms. So in 2020, already conditioned to accept being humiliated barefoot before every flight, it is easy to accept losing jobs, or to lock down whole cities, or close off state borders. It was easy for people to accept being denied saying goodbye to a terminally ill loved one, or to be blocked from attending church or their child's birth, by the government.

    Fear is very powerful, and learned helplessness a dangerous thing. So forgive my dry heart when I am not sure I should fear for our democracy even as I fear for our sanity. And don't be surprised at how quickly the virus clears away once the election is over. And don't be surprised when it is replaced by a new thing to fear.

    Peter Van Buren, a 24-year State Department veteran, is the author of We Meant Well: How I Helped Lose the Battle for the Hearts and Minds of the Iraqi People, Hooper's War: A Novel of WWII Japan, and Ghosts of Tom Joad: A Story of the 99 Percent.


    E.J. Smith Mark B. 12 hours ago • edited

    Basic human behavior here in my home state of Michigan is being indelibly modified by fear. I see it in people driving alone wearing a mask in their car. There was the guy yesterday at the outdoor golf range hitting balls - not very well - 50 feet away from everyone else wearing his mask the entire time. It's not required. It's not even suggested.

    There's the look of pure terror in people's eyes when you inadvertently stray within their physical distancing radius while shopping at the local store. The kid in my younger son's Boy Scout troop who flipped out at my son for coming too close to him without a mask while they were on a Scout-sanctioned outdoor hike. Then there's the whole school fiasco.

    I respectfully disagree with Mr. Van Buren on one point. This isn't going away any time soon regardless of the election. The behavior will not be "unlearned." The residual fear will remain. Masks will be a "thing" just as they are in China. Masks are now fashion accessories and you can buy them with your favorite team's logo on them.

    Too much effort has been invested in the narrative and making the "new normal" acceptable. Too many otherwise marginal people like our beloved Governor Whitmer have been empowered for all of this simply to evaporate.

    RisingSunEnglishRose E.J. Smith 6 hours ago

    I'm not in Michigan, but Los Angeles has similar restrictions, and I don't see the irrational fear going away any time soon. It broke 100 degrees yesterday, and people were jogging outdoors in masks. I make a point of not wearing one except when required by law. Every day, I walk to the supermarket, and the number of people who jump into the street (without looking! One man nearly got hit by the bus!) upon seeing a human face is startling. I fear for our future. The mass hysteria boggles my mind.

    AlexanderHistory X 17 hours ago

    Well, it isn't much, but living in nyc I mostly walk wherever I am going. I carry a mask in my pocket and put it on to enter stores because I won't be allowed in without it. But I walk without a mask on.
    Some stores, and it's very clear which, you can go in without a mask. Like my regular bodega. Either way, it's the small acts of defiance that count in such an environment. Or at least that's what I tell myself.

    Feral Finster 15 hours ago

    It goes back well before the Cold War. Remember the First Red Scare, and the fear of anarchists lurking around every corner? Or for that matter, Solid Citizens of the day quaking at the thought that William Jennings Bryan might win the presidency and institute Free Silver, which was practically bomb-throwing anarchy.

    Before that, Southerners shook at the thought of slave uprisings, and Northerners at Indian raids.

    Mr W Feral Finster 14 hours ago • edited

    My ancestors who came to the US around the turn of the last Century had to sign statements that they were not anarchists.

    SatirevFlesti 13 hours ago • edited

    "The less it makes sense the more it makes sense to just submit and go along, because thinking is hard. So it is no surprise I wear a mask outside"

    Precisely the kind of thinking and abject submission that will ensure that this insanity continues indefinitely (or until the election, depending on the outcome). I've never yet worn a mask and will not. If that means that only place I can go outside home is the park, so be it. I'll be leaving this worthless world soon enough. But, I will not wear a useless placebo face muzzle in order to humor others in their irrational fears and paranoia.

    Wallstreet Panic 8 hours ago

    "My third grade teacher even identified Ground Zero as the cinder parking lot next to the school, and for some reason told us it would happen in the morning."
    That was some world-class phycological torture.

    MPC 7 hours ago

    I think Peter is on to something here.

    I reflect back to my own childhood, in a household of Calvinist-like obsessions and guilt. Faith as both identity and torture. Habits that even having left that behind, I can't quite shake.

    "Sinners in the hands of an angry God"

    Secondly, I think some level of fear and neuroticism is inevitable in a super complex system like industrial civilization. There seems to be a pervasive yearning to escape from it that I too have felt. Minimalism, environmentalism, modern readaptations of Buddhism and Stoicism, etc all are facets of this in my view. Perhaps human nature is simply telling us that this 200 year old development needs quite a bit more refining before we're happy with it for the long term. We've lost too much of our freedom and we want it back, but generally not at the cost of much material comfort. A split like that will take
    a long time to reconcile.

    Thomas Storck 4 hours ago

    You wrote, "a virus which doesn't even cause symptoms in many of
    its hosts and unlike almost anything else, like cancer or heart attacks,
    has a fatality rate well below a single percent (so we count cases, not
    fatalities -- to generate fear)."

    By "a single percent" did you mean 1%? In Ohio, where I live, the death rate has been consistently between 3 and 4%. Not the black plague, certainly, but serious enough. Much more than the seasonal flu, where the death rate is less than 1%

    [Sep 06, 2020] Inactive fragments on virus RNA trigger false positives in most common COVID test due to way too many cycles of amplification which amplifies noise along with the signal and efffectly turns noise (inactive fragments on RNA) into signal, new study finds

    Highly recommended!
    From comments: "Article is poorly written by someone who does not know medical science. There are no viral "cells" so the headline is a put off right away. The comment about "sensitivity" is misplaced as PCR tests are too sensitive: ergo false positives. I believe "specificity" is the word the author was searching for. If a test lumps true positives with false positives, then it lacks specificity."
    Sep 05, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

    In the past, our reports raising questions about the accuracy of COVID-19 tests have been met with accusations of 'fearmongering' and spreading 'misinformation'.

    But not today.

    That's because new research from the University of Oxford's Center for Evidence-Based Medicine and the University of the West of England has found that the swab-based technique used for most COVID-19 testing is at risk of returning "false positives" since copies of the virus's RNA detected by the tests might simply be dead, inactive material from a weeks-old infection. Although patients infected with COVID-19 are typically only infectious for a week or less, tests can be triggered by virus genetic material left over from a weeks-old infection.

    The team's research involved analyzing 25 studies on the widely used polymerase chain reaction test. PCR tests use material collected with a swab - the most common type of test around the world, and especially in the US - then utilize a "genetic photocopying" technique that allows scientists to magnify the small sample of genetic material collected, which they can then analyze for signs of viral RNA.

    What the researchers here have effectively found is that these PCR tests just aren't sensitive enough to distinguish if the viral material is active and infectious, or dead and inert.

    For those who desire a more comprehensive understanding of how these tests work, the chart below can be helpful.

    Professor Carl Heneghan, one of the authors of the study, said there was a risk that a surge in testing across the UK was increasing the risk of this sample contamination occurring and it may explain why the number of Covid-19 cases is rising but the number of deaths is static.

    "Evidence is mounting that a good proportion of 'new' mild cases and people re-testing positives after quarantine or discharge from hospital are not infectious, but are simply clearing harmless virus particles which their immune system has efficiently dealt with," he told the Spectator.

    Professor Heneghan added that international scrutiny might be required to avoid "the dangers of isolating non-infectious people or whole communities." ZKnight 14 minutes ago

    Fake science. How about purify the virus first and establish a gold standard for testing first. No, of course not because the CDC has a patent for Covid-19 and nobody is allowed to try find it to see if it exists. play_arrow LogicFusion 27 minutes ago

    Everybody is a Covid-19 / Coronavirus expert now!

    Read about the failed coin dealer and convicted felon's performance. It's hilarious!

    Martin Armstrong becomes Covid-19 Coronavirus Expert overnight play_arrow ducksinarow 59 minutes ago

    Covid -19 has been so politicized that I don't believe a word of any publication for or against testing, existence of the Virus, or anything that provokes testing or issues opinions about locking down communities. Just like the riots, Covid news is just plain boring. play_arrow ominous 3 hours ago

    Link to spectator.co.uk goes to home page, not this story.

    Where is the original story posted? play_arrow play_arrow ominous 3 hours ago (Edited)

    Perhaps this

    https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/infectious-positive-pcr-test-result-covid-19/ y_arrow 1 Rabbi Blitzstein 38 minutes ago

    "Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes the laws" - Mayer Amschel Rothschild. play_arrow play_arrow tangent 4 hours ago remove link

    People who recommend a vaccine for an entirely cured virus should lose their license to practice medicine. 99.9% cure rate applying to people who take it before being hospitalized is one of the biggest success stories in the history of medicine for HCQ. Not only that, but there are multiple other likely cures that simply have not been studied well. You'd think people would appreciate the fact that the common cold has been cured, but instead they just whine that big pharma isn't getting those bucko bucks.

    I honestly expected a ticker tape parade like in the movies when that first cure study came out. But instead they took a massive **** on the study and on the doctor... ****ty world we live in. ay_arrow Pair Of Dimes Shift 2 hours ago

    An exec (55+) at my company is gung ho about the vaccine.

    Unfortunately, I just had to give him a "wait and see" response although I know vaccines for coronaviruses are impossible. play_arrow 2 play_arrow ThanksIwillHaveAnother 4 hours ago (Edited)

    Viruses are not full cells. They are DNA/RNA wrapped with a protein the clings to a cell then the cell imports the DNA/RNA to start making its proteins. So what is inactive? If that person sneezes on another person depending on immune system status that other person could get a bad infection. y_arrow 4 CrabbyR 3 hours ago

    viruses utilizes CELL structures and host DNA to replicate dna or rna according to the viruses genetic code, the protein jacket is the final product to

    disguise the virus from detection and to bind on another cell after the compromised cell RUPTURES, there's more to it but if it cannot copy itself effectively it can become nonviable and unable to infect another cell. It replicates DNA inside a host cell, It is not a complete organism and cannot replicate unless it can inject its DNA into a host cell. Antibodies cling to viruses and destroy this ability to bind to a target cell. A non viable virus has a damaged coat or DNA RNA that has to many Dimers (damage or code breaks) Bacteria is more in line with what you think a virus is y_arrow onewayticket2 4 hours ago (Edited) remove link

    they lost me when they changed the definition of "death" to include "presumed, untested" cases (while bI@#$% ing at me that we needed to "follow the science")....and even got busted for the laughable motorcycle accident being classified as a covid death and the Labs that were sending in 100% positive results. (until they were caught) play_arrow OutaTime43 4 hours ago remove link

    The test detects RNA. Not necessarily viable virus. Also, it will detect RNA presence in an individual who may already have antibodies and may be immune. We are bombarded daily by viruses of which we already have immunity. play_arrow sun tzu 10 hours ago

    Shocking news that the South Koreans already discovered and published back in May. Western big pharma driven medicine is garbage 😂😂😂

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/05/wha-passes-pandemic-probe-resolution-korea-clarifies-reinfection-reports

    play_arrow Roger Casement 10 hours ago

    WTF!!!!

    World Bank exporting COVID-19 Testing Kits in 2018??????

    https: // wits.worldbank.org/trade/comtrade/en/country/ALL/year/2018/tradeflow/Exports/partner/WLD/nomen/h5/product/300215 play_arrow 7 play_arrow sun tzu 10 hours ago

    Interesting play_arrow play_arrow Jack Mehoff 1 more time 9 hours ago

    Business as usual play_arrow play_arrow Argon1 7 hours ago

    Preparation for agenda 2021 in 2017. play_arrow 1 play_arrow CrabbyR 4 hours ago

    WOW.......ties a few strands from other sources together into a real ugly picture play_arrow play_arrow Welsh Bard 10 hours ago

    The professor who won the Nobel prize for work in this field, said that the way this test is being operated with over forty cycles, means that any results are entirely meaningless.

    In Britain, having spent over £15 billion setting up PCR testing systems and a shaky test and trace apparatus on top of that, it appears that 90% of positive results now appear to be false. This is compounded by the fact that when a hot spot develops, more testing is done to show a rapid increase in more false positive results, meaning further new lockdowns and even more testing to prove yet more false positive results ad infinitum.

    Now whether this is by design or ineptitude, people must decide for themselves but the outcome is utter chaos.

    For those countries who have not followed the Swedish model especially countries like Australia and New Zealand who have set up complete isolation, now face a future perpetually cut off from the rest of the world.

    Okay, new techniques will and are coming along to treat the disease like HCQ when used correctly maybe as a prophylactic and a vaccine that will need to be constantly upgraded like the Flu vaccine, means that the whole world has painted itself into a corner unless drastic revision is now made to the whole sorry mess.

    In the meantime, we will now be stuck with digital currency and the introduction of ID Health Cards that will limit people in how they travel where they work and access to a whole heap of things like government services.

    Welcome to the new world order! play_arrow 1 KuriousKat 11 hours ago (Edited) remove link

    Don't tell the Shameless Aussie gov that after arresting hundreds for simply voicing doubt on need to lockdown entire city...Next time it will be thousands and not a damn thing they can do to stop it..These people are trickling us the truth how worthless the tests are when pretty much everyone knows. play_arrow espirit 12 hours ago remove link

    Lessee.

    WHO

    Imperial College

    John Hopkins

    CDC

    Line all those peeps up against the wall, and the first one to rat gets to live.

    I'll provide my own ammo... ay_arrow Sick Monkey 6 hours ago

    Not everyone working in these agencies are dishonest but like you and I we have to work and eat.

    Most of them are trapped in this mess with bills to pay threatened by NDA.


    play_arrow 1 Urban Roman 12 hours ago

    Not particularly new news. Been talked about since April at least -- it's an RNA virus, it has its own polymerase, and it leaves lots of RNA fragments in its wake.

    The Corona family of viruses make 5 or 6 strands with partial copies of their RNA molecule. negative copies are made first, and then copied again into positive copies. Finally the one big RNA is made with the entire genome on it.

    So about a dozen RNA molecules are made for each finished virus particle that is produced. And finally, a variety of different primers are used for the PCR tests, some are matched to the small partial RNA copies and others are matched to various features on the large whole-virus RNA. They can give different results for the same sample.

    So, someone who registers on a PCR test has probably been exposed to the virus, but the test gives no clue as to whether it is an active infection, or the person is contagious, or they are just coming down with it, or they got over it six months ago. play_arrow 4 play_arrow 1

    10 play_arrow gordo 12 hours ago remove link

    Sweden, no masks, no lock downs, ALL SCHOOLS OPEN, herd immunity, no second wave.

    Still think your masks and lock downs are working muppets?


    1 play_arrow The 3rd Dimentia 13 hours ago

    https://youtu.be/sjYvitCeMPc SARS-CoV2 and the Rise of Medical Technocracy. Lee Merritt, M.D. play_arrow 3 play_arrow hugin-o-munin 13 hours ago

    I'm glad to see that many are starting to counter the official narrative.

    We've been asleep for too long and allowed these agendas to fester to the point we're at now where a college dropout software salesman and a former 3rd world communist terrorist (neither of whom have any medical degree) are dictating to the world how everyone needs to get a DNA altering vaccine and a medical ID. It's completely nuts and bonkers yet more or less the entire planet's governments follow in 'lockstep' with ever more draconian laws and regulations incarcerating people in their own homes, making them wear masks causing oxygen deprivation and shutting down the entire world economy.


    lay_arrow Warthog777 , 13 hours ago

    Article is poorly written by someone who does not know medical science. There are no viral "cells" so the headline is a put off right away. The comment about "sensitivity" is misplaced as PCR tests are too sensitive: ergo false positives. I believe "specificity" is the word the author was searching for. If a test lumps true positives with false positives, then it lacks specificity.

    Cabreado , 13 hours ago

    "accusations of 'fearmongering' and spreading 'misinformation'.
    But not today."

    Well, much of the world has known for months now about the testing lies...

    and I'd be remiss to not remind the Tylers that they indeed played a role in the fear mongering along the way; quite intently so.

    Crush the cube , 13 hours ago

    https://play.google.com/store/books/details/Flavio_Bell_Covid_24?id=SxrxDwAAQBAJ

    Busted, published 2018, what a scam.

    Digital-Anarchy , 14 hours ago

    Anyone who would use the term "virus cells", has no clue what they're talking about and should be completely disregarded. Viruses are not cells. PCR tests are searching for something your body produces in response to a virus as well. They are not produced specifically for a singular virus either. The entire concept of PCR testing is garbage. This **** was a scam from the get-go.

    hugin-o-munin , 13 hours ago

    Yes it is evident now that this entire pandemic is false and political. The goal seems to be to vaccinate entire populations and the question people need to ask is - why? what for? Aside from the obvious economic motives there are some more sinister plans that most people will have a hard time accepting but these need to be looked at. Several years ago there were a group of doctors and researchers that died of suspicious suicides who were collaborating and studying vaccines and the link to autism.

    The effort was led by Dr.Jeffrey Bradstreet who was researching the natural substance GcMAF and how this could boost the immune system. What he discovered was that many vaccines had a compound/substance called Nagalase in them that is unnatural and has a detrimental effect on the immune system and function of GcMAF (which is produced by our own bodies) and has no business at all being in vaccines. Just before he was able to blow the whistle on this he also died of a suspicious 'suicide' and today most of the clinics and research groups working on GcMAF have been destroyed and ruined. Draw your own conclusions.

    snblitz , 14 hours ago

    Dr. Kary Mullis invented the PCR test. He said it was ineffective for this purpose.

    Though he was addressing its use in a prior virus hoax unleashed upon the world.

    I bet you didn't know this scam has been used before.

    That is why I was able to call out the scam right from the start. The second I saw them using the PCR again, I knew it was from the same playbook.

    snblitz , 14 hours ago

    So many lies.

    Viruses are not alive. They have no metabolic functions. They cannot move.

    Don't believe me? Get a degree is virology or microbiology or just a read a book on the subject. Or capture a wuhan-virus yourself and watch it under a microscope. It won't move. It won't consume anything. It will just sit there inert.

    The problem is that you are being lied to at a scale you cannot imagine.

    I know, off to the fema re-education camp for me for spreading false information about the wuhan-virus.

    Though I am not the one spreading fear and hysteria.

    aldousd , 13 hours ago

    There article is confused, but the work of the doctor is not. Viruses use your cells to reproduce. When your immune system targets the virus it actually kills your own cell which has become host to the virus. The virus particles and markers, and the DNA of the virus can be detected in these dead cells, but dead cells cannot serve as a factory for more viruses. So it's effectively a dead virus infected cell. Not a dead virus cell.

    So while the transcription of the idea here was done by an idiot, it's not an idiotic idea. The tests cannot tell if the virus came in a living cell that is actively producing more viruses or a dead host cell that has been assassinated by your immune system. That's what they're talking about here.

    mstyle , 11 hours ago

    what about the chromosome 8 stuff that has been mentioned lately?

    (since you appear to be rather intelligent)

    hugin-o-munin , 11 hours ago

    Thanks. Well the chromosome 8 discovery in the PCR test specifications/details is strange and worrying because it makes you wonder why it's part of this at all. Some believe it's to get more false positive results while others believe it is what the mRNA vaccines are intended to target and if that's right then it's really sinister. What exactly is the plan? To make all of us get Downs Syndrome? I don't know but judging by all their other lies and schemes it wouldn't surprise me.

    IRC162 , 14 hours ago

    Fuggin progressives and their pandemic political prop. But really this reaction is the same as their reaction to 'racial injustice'. They focus on feelings before the facts are known in order to achieve their end, and then do their best to bury/ignore the facts when they are gathered later.

    94% COVID deaths with multiple comorbidities.

    10 unarmed blacks killed by police in 2019 (6 were in self-defense).

    adr , 15 hours ago

    Why didn't you mention that nearly all labs are running 35-40 cycles which guarantees a positive test, simply from noise.

    The inventor of the test said if you don't find anything after 15 cycles, it probably isn't there. After 20 cycles the noise starts to be greater than any real information. By 30, the test is mostly noise. More than 35, the test is completely worthless.

    Of course I've been saying this for five months, but most people didn't listen. After the NYT article came out, people I know started saying, "How did you know?"

    I said, "Because I have critical thinking skills. Why didn't you believe me? Name a time I've steered you wrong."

    Antiduck , 14 hours ago

    333 labs in florida had 100% positivity. (stupid word.)

    ZenStick , 12 hours ago

    Exactly correct.
    Nobody will touch this line of reasoning in public or on media.
    Bastages.

    Identify as Ferengi , 15 hours ago

    See above, Born2Bwired.

    The PCR test is not useful for what they are using it for apparently. This has been known since the beginning. Here is quote regarding AIDS:

    "Kary Mullis, who won the Nobel Prize in Science for inventing the PCR, is thoroughly convinced that HIV is not the cause of "AIDS". With regard to the viral load tests, which attempt to use PCR for counting viruses, Mullis has stated: "Quantitative PCR is an oxymoron." PCR is intended to identify substances qualitatively, but by its very nature is unsuited for estimating numbers. Although there is a common misimpression that the viral load tests actually count the number of viruses in the blood, these tests cannot detect free, infectious viruses at all; they can only detect proteins that are believed, in some cases wrongly, to be unique to HIV. The tests can detect genetic sequences of viruses, but not viruses themselves.

    What PCR does is to select a genetic sequence and then amplify it enormously. It can accomplish the equivalent of finding a needle in a haystack; it can amplify that needle into a haystack. Like an electronically amplified antenna, PCR greatly amplifies the signal, but it also greatly amplifies the noise. Since the amplification is exponential, the slightest error in measurement, the slightest contamination, can result in errors of many orders of magnitude."

    http://www.virusmyth.org/aids/hiv/jlprotease.htm

    naro , 15 hours ago

    NYTimes article last week suggested that only 10% of Covid positive PCR tests are clinically significant and infectious.

    [Aug 31, 2020] We might have to wait forever for science to show the Covid threat is over, so let's use our common sense get back to normal -- RT Op-ed

    Highly recommended!
    Notable quotes:
    "... It's time to stop fetishizing scientific methods. We have to accept that there are many elements of Covid-19 that science may never understand and if we wait for it to do so, we will never again be able to live a normal life. ..."
    "... Science, if it is working properly, will not come to a conclusion that is wholly wrong. But not everything that is true can be established by a randomized control trial followed by peer review. Take the theory, popularized by Dr John Lee's work in the Spectator , that Covid has become less deadly as it spreads, and is now basically inert. ..."
    "... People need to accept this about Covid (and hopefully later, much else) and stop fetishizing the scientific method at times when a bit of common sense would do the job. ..."
    "... Consider this article , written by three scientific minds. It is a measured and 'data driven' analysis of whether Covid is becoming less deadly. But is blinkered by an assumption that only official data, no matter how muddled, can be relied upon. All you really need to do is ask doctors whether they are seeing people come in with Covid, or if they are dying of Covid when they do. Instead it focuses on case numbers, which are not worth the paper they are written on. ..."
    "... So many people have been so frightened – understandably – by exaggerated accounts of the threat posed by Covid-19, and it will take a lot to persuade them that they have been sold a pup. But they need to be persuaded, so that can get their old lives back. The present regime will never take on this responsibility because it would center on an admission of massive guilt on their part. ..."
    "... What is needed now from all sensible people is calm but insistent argument, with friends, relations and authorities alike, for the total abolition of all coronavirus-related restrictions. We saw some of that in London and Berlin over the weekend, and it was fantastic to see such well organized and clear minded dissent against the sinister 'new normal'. ..."
    Aug 31, 2020 | www.rt.com

    By Peter Andrews , Irish science journalist and writer based in London. He has a background in the life sciences, and graduated from the University of Glasgow with a degree in genetics

    It's time to stop fetishizing scientific methods. We have to accept that there are many elements of Covid-19 that science may never understand and if we wait for it to do so, we will never again be able to live a normal life.

    The Covid-19 outbreak is largely over, and man's attempts to slow, stop or understand the virus have failed. Science will eventually discover more about the pandemic but it is a slow process.

    Science, if it is working properly, will not come to a conclusion that is wholly wrong. But not everything that is true can be established by a randomized control trial followed by peer review. Take the theory, popularized by Dr John Lee's work in the Spectator , that Covid has become less deadly as it spreads, and is now basically inert.

    This would perfectly explain why so many people died of Covid-19 in a short period of time, and why deaths have basically flat-lined since April. It fits with many Covid studies confirming fast evolution , different strains and reinfection . Furthermore, a change to the virus itself could explain why the same patterns in deaths have been seen everywhere, irrespective of lockdowns, demographics, contact tracing or any other scheme.

    ALSO ON RT.COM Weird science: Covid-19 does NOT cause heart damage, as blockbuster study had basic calculation errors

    In fact, with each passing day it is increasingly probable that the virus has mutated to a milder form. The trouble is it would be nigh on impossible to establish this with the instruments of science, now or any time soon. The vagaries of individual human bodies and microscopic particles are just beyond the scope of exact science.

    People need to accept this about Covid (and hopefully later, much else) and stop fetishizing the scientific method at times when a bit of common sense would do the job. We are paralysed by a need for the World Health Organization or Public Health England to conjure up some peer-reviewed study or other confirming to 99.9 percent likelihood that we can go back to normal now. That will never happen, but we have to get back to normal.

    Consider this article , written by three scientific minds. It is a measured and 'data driven' analysis of whether Covid is becoming less deadly. But is blinkered by an assumption that only official data, no matter how muddled, can be relied upon. All you really need to do is ask doctors whether they are seeing people come in with Covid, or if they are dying of Covid when they do. Instead it focuses on case numbers, which are not worth the paper they are written on.

    Here is another paper , co-authored by the brilliant Professor Carl Heneghan of the University of Oxford's Center for Evidence-Based Medicine. He has been tireless in his questioning of the government's interpretation of coronavirus statistics, although it has taken far too long for him to be given any kind of platform from which to address the public.

    The study, while no doubt accurate and valuable for establishing fine points of detail, seeks to answer whether the infection fatality ratio has been falling in the UK. A comprehensive review of the limited data suggests that it has, but so what? What does that mean to the average Joe, confused as to whether they should send their child to school in the morning, or whether it would be irresponsible to give their elderly parents a hug?

    ALSO ON RT.COM Just wait for a vaccine? First confirmed REINFECTION means there may be no way to eradicate Covid

    So many people have been so frightened – understandably – by exaggerated accounts of the threat posed by Covid-19, and it will take a lot to persuade them that they have been sold a pup. But they need to be persuaded, so that can get their old lives back. The present regime will never take on this responsibility because it would center on an admission of massive guilt on their part.

    What is needed now from all sensible people is calm but insistent argument, with friends, relations and authorities alike, for the total abolition of all coronavirus-related restrictions. We saw some of that in London and Berlin over the weekend, and it was fantastic to see such well organized and clear minded dissent against the sinister 'new normal'.

    Like this story? Share it with a friend!

    The statements, views and opinions expressed in this column are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of RT.

    [Aug 24, 2020] From Lockdown to Police State- The "Great Reset" Rolls Out by Ellen Brown

    Aug 24, 2020 | www.unz.com

    Mayhem in Melbourne

    On August 2, lockdown measures were implemented in Melbourne, Australia, that were so draconian that Australian news commentator Alan Jones said on Sky News : "People are entitled to think there is an 'agenda to destroy western society.'"

    The gist of an August 13 th article on the Melbourne lockdown is captured in the title: " Australian Police Go FULL NAZI , Smashing in Windows of Civilian Cars Just Because Passengers Wouldn't Give Details About Where They Were Going."

    Another article with an arresting title was by Guy Burchell in the August 7 th Australian National Review : " Melbourne Cops May Now Enter Homes Without a Warrant , After 11 People Die of COVID -- Australia, This Is Madness, Not Democracy." Burchell wrote that only 147 people had lost their lives to coronavirus in Victoria (the Australian state of which Melbourne is the capital), a very low death rate compared to other countries. The ramped up lockdown measures were triggered by an uptick in cases due to ramped up testing and 11 additional deaths, all of them in nursing homes (where lockdown measures would actually have little effect). The new rules include a six week curfew from 8 PM to 5 AM, with residents allowed to leave home outside those curfew hours only to shop for food and essential items (one household member only), and for caregiving, work and exercise (limited to one hour).

    "But the piece de resistance ," writes Burchell, "has to be that now police officers can enter homes with neither a warrant nor permission. This is an astonishing violation of civil liberties . Deaths of this kind are not normally cause for government action, let alone the effective house arrest of an entire city." He quoted Victoria Premier Daniel Andrews, who told Victorians, "there is literally no reason for you to leave your home and if you were to leave your home and not be found there, you will have a very difficult time convincing Victoria police that you have a lawful reason." Burchell commented:

    [U]nder this new regime you can't even remain in your house unmolested by the cops, they can just pop 'round anytime to make sure you haven't had Bruce and Sheila from next door round for a couple of drinks. All over a disease that is simply not that fatal .

    Last year more than 310,000 Australians were hospitalised with flu and over 900 died. By all metrics that makes flu a worse threat than COVID-19 but police weren't granted Stasi-like powers during the flu season. Millions of people weren't confined to their homes and threatened with AUS$5,000 fines for not having a good reason for being out of their homes.

    At an August 19 th press conference , Australia's second most senior medical officer said the government would be discussing measures such as banning restaurants, international travel, public transport, and withholding government programs through "No Jab No Pay" in order to coerce vaccine resisters.

    An August 13 article on LifeSiteNews quoted Father Glen Tattersall, a Catholic parish priest in Melbourne, who said the draconian provisions "simply cannot be justified on a scientific basis":

    We have a curfew from 8 pm to 5 am, rigorously enforced including by the use of police helicopters and search lights. Is the virus a vampire that just comes out at night? Or the wearing of masks: they must be worn everywhere outside, even in a park where you are nowhere near any other person. Why? Does the virus leap hundreds of metres through the air? This is all about inducing mass fear, and humiliating the populace by demanding external compliance.

    Why the strict curfew? Curfews have been implemented recently in the US to deter violence during protests, but no violence of that sort was reported in Melbourne. What was reported, at least on social media , were planes landing in the night from ‎the Chinese province of Guandong carrying equipment related to 5G and the Chinese biometric social credit system, which was reportedly being installed under a blanket of secrecy.

    Angelo Codevilla, professor emeritus at Boston University, concluded in an August 13 th article, "We are living through a coup d'état based on the oldest of ploys: declaring emergencies, suspending law and rights, and issuing arbitrary rules of behavior to excuse taking 'full powers'."

    Questioning the Narrative

    Melbourne has gone to extremes with its lockdown measures, but it could portend things to come globally. Lockdowns were originally sold to the public as being necessary just for a couple of weeks to "flatten the curve," to prevent hospital overcrowding from COVID-19 cases. It has now been over five months, with self-appointed vaccine czar Bill Gates intoning that we will not be able to return to "normal" until the entire global population of 7 billion people has been vaccinated. He has since backed off on the numbers, but commentators everywhere are reiterating that lockdowns are the "new normal," which could last for years.

    All this is such a radical curtailment of our civil liberties that we need to look closely at the evidence justifying it; and when we do, that evidence is weak. The isolation policies were triggered by estimates from the Imperial College London of 510,000 UK deaths and 2.2 million US deaths, more than 10 times the actual death rate from COVID-19. A Stanford University antibody study estimated that the fatality rate if infected was only about 0.1 to 0.2 percent; and in an August 4 th blog post , Bill Gates himself acknowledged that the death rate was only 0.14 percent, not much higher than for the flu. But restrictive measures have gotten more onerous rather than less as the mortality figures have been revised downward.

    A July 2020 UK study from Loughborough and Sheffield Universities found that government policy over the lockdown period has actually increased mortality rather than reducing it, after factoring in collateral damage including deaths from cancers and other serious diseases that are being left untreated, a dramatic increase in suicides and drug overdose, and poverty and malnourishment due to unemployment. Globally, according to UNICEF, 1.2 million child deaths are expected as a direct result of the lockdowns. A data analyst in South Africa asserts that the consequences of the country's lockdown will lead to 29 times more deaths than from the coronavirus itself .

    Countries and states that did very little to restrict their populations, including Sweden and South Dakota, have fared as well as or better overall than locked down US states. In an August 12 th article in The UK Telegraph titled " Sweden's Success Shows the True Cost of Our Arrogant, Failed Establishment ," Allister Heath writes:

    Sweden got it largely right, and the British establishment catastrophically wrong. Anders Tegnell, Stockholm's epidemiologist-​king, has pulled off a remarkable triple whammy: far fewer deaths per capita than Britain, a maintenance of basic freedoms and opportunities, including schooling, and, most strikingly, a recession less than half as severe as our own.

    Not restraining the populace has allowed Sweden's curve to taper off naturally through "herd immunity," with daily deaths down to single digits for the last month. (See chart .)

    The Pandemic That Wasn't?

    Also bringing the official narrative into question is the unreliability of the tests on which the lockdowns have been based. In a Wired interview , even Bill Gates acknowledged that most US test results are "garbage." The Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) technology used in the nasal swab test is considered the "gold standard" for COVID-19 detection; yet the PCR test was regarded by its own inventor, Nobel prize winner Kary Mullis, as inappropriate to detect viral infection . In a detailed June 27 th analysis titled " COVID-19 PCR Tests Are Scientifically Meaningless ," Torsten Engelbrecht and Konstantin Demeter conclude:

    Without doubt eventual excess mortality rates are caused by the therapy and by the lockdown measures, while the "COVID-19" death statistics comprise also patients who died of a variety of diseases, redefined as COVID-19 only because of a "positive" test result whose value could not be more doubtful.

    The authors discussed a January 2007 New York Times article titled " Faith in Quick Test Leads to Epidemic That Wasn't ," describing an apparent whooping cough epidemic in a New Hampshire hospital. The epidemic was verified by preliminary PCR tests given to nearly 1,000 healthcare workers, who were subsequently furloughed. Eight months later, the "epidemic" was found to be a false alarm. Not a single case of whooping cough was confirmed by the "gold standard" test – growing pertussis bacteria in the laboratory. All of the cases found through the PCR test were false positives.

    Yet "test, test, test" was the message proclaimed for all countries by WHO Director General Tedros Adhanom at a media briefing on March 16, 2020 , five days after WHO officially declared COVID-19; and the test recommended as the gold standard was the PCR. Why, when it had already been demonstrated to be unreliable, creating false positives that gave the appearance of an epidemic when there was none? Or was that the goal – to create the appearance of a pandemic, one so vast that the global economy had to be brought to a standstill until a vaccine could be found? Recall Prof. Codevilla's conclusion: "We are living through a coup d'état based on the oldest of ploys: declaring emergencies, suspending law and rights, and issuing arbitrary rules of behavior to excuse taking 'full powers'."

    People desperate to get back to work will not only submit to a largely untested vaccine but will agree to surveillance measures that would have been considered a flagrant violation of their civil rights if those rights had not been overridden by a "national emergency" justifying preemption by the police powers of the state. They will agree to get "immunity passports" in order to travel and participate in group activities, and they will submit to quarantines, curfews, contact tracings, social credit scores and informing on the neighbors. The emergency must be kept going to justify these unprecedented violations of their liberties, in which decision-making is removed from elected representatives and handed to unelected bureaucrats and technocrats.

    A national health crisis also a necessary prerequisite for relief from liability for personal injuries from the drugs and other products deployed in response to the crisis. Under the 2005 Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act (PREPA), in the event of a declared public health emergency, manufacturers are shielded from tort liability for injuries both from the vaccines and from invalid or invasive tests. Compensation for personal injuries is a massive expense for drug companies, and the potential profits from a product free of that downside are a gold mine for pharmaceutical companies and investors. The liabilities will be borne by the taxpayers and the victims.

    All this, however, presupposes both an existing public health emergency and no effective treatment to defuse it. That helps explain the otherwise inexplicable war on hydroxychloroquine , a safe drug that has been in use and available over the counter for 65 years and has been shown to be effective in multiple studies when used early in combination with zinc and an antibiotic. A table prepared by the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons ( below ) found that the US has nearly 30 times as many deaths per capita as countries making early and prophylactic use of hydroxychloroquine.

    The latest international testing of hydroxychloroquine treatment of coronavirus shows countries that had early use of the drug had a 79% lower mortality rate than countries that banned the use of the safe malaria drug. Lowering the US mortality rate by 79% could have saved over 100,000 lives. But an effective, inexpensive COVID-19 treatment would mean the end of the alleged pandemic and the vaccine bonanza it purports to justify.

    The need to maintain the appearance of a pandemic also explains the inflated reports of cases and deaths. Hospitals have been rewarded with increased fees for reclassifying cases as COVID-19. As deaths declined in the US, the numbers of cases reported by the Centers for Disease Control were also gamed to make it appear that America was in a "second wave" of a pandemic. The reporting criterion was changed on May 18 from people who tested positive for the virus only to people who tested positive for either the virus or its antibodies. The exploding numbers thus include people who have recovered from COVID-19 as well as false positives. The Loughborough and Sheffield researchers found that when controlling for other factors affecting mortality, actual deaths due to COVID-19 are 54% to 63% lower than implied by the standard excess deaths measure.

    Ushering in "The Great Reset"

    Forcing compliance with global vaccine mandates is one obvious motive for maintaining the appearance of an ongoing pandemic, but what would be the motive for destroying the global economy with forced lockdowns? What is behind the "agenda to destroy Western society" suspected by Australian commentator Alan Jones?

    Evidently it is this: destroying the old is necessary to usher in the new. Global economic destruction paves the way for the "Great Reset" now being promoted by the World Economic Forum, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the International Monetary Fund and other big global players.

    Although cast as arising from the pandemic, the "global economic reset" is a concept that was floated as early as 2014 by Christine Lagarde, then head of the IMF, and is said to be a recharacterization of the "New World Order" discussed long before that. It was promoted as a solution to the ongoing economic crisis triggered in 2008.

    The World Economic Forum – that elite group of businessmen, politicians and academics that meets in Davos, Switzerland, every January – announced in June that the Great Reset would be the theme of its 2021 Summit. Klaus Schwab, founder of the Forum, admonished:

    The world must act jointly and swiftly to revamp all aspects of our societies and economies, from education to social contracts and working conditions. Every country, from the United States to China, must participate, and every industry, from oil and gas to tech, must be transformed.

    No country will be allowed to opt out because it would be endangering the rest, just as no person will be allowed to escape the COVID-19 vaccine for the same reason.

    Who is behind the Great Reset and what it really entails are major questions that need their own article, but suffice it to say here that to escape the trap of the globalist agenda, we need a mass awakening to what is really going on and collective resistance to it while there is still time. There are hopeful signs that this is happening, including massive protests against economic shutdowns and restrictions, particularly in Europe; a rash of lawsuits challenging the constitutionality of the lockdowns and of police power overreach; and a flood of alternative media exposés despite widespread censorship.

    Life as we know it will change. We need to ensure that it changes in ways that serve the people and the productive economy, while preserving our national sovereignty and hard-won personal freedoms.

    Ellen Brown is an attorney, chair of the Public Banking Institute and author of thirteen books, including her latest, Banking on the People: Democratizing Money in the Digital Age . She also co-hosts a radio program on PRN.FM called " It's Our Money ." Her 300+ blog articles are posted at EllenBrown.com.

    [Aug 24, 2020] The virus is not imaginary, but badly exaggerated as well as ineptly treated.

    Aug 24, 2020 | www.unz.com

    RadicalCenter , says: August 23, 2020 at 3:53 am GMT

    @Brás Cubas ite the contrary. What he said is that its severity has been intentionally and systematically exaggerated, and that is clearly correct and provable.

    Here are experienced medical doctors providing well-documented detailed criticism of the covid-19 death stats and the wide ranging dishonesty in their inflation. They note that thus far, more accurate and honest stats suggest that this virus has been not as lethal as recent flu strains in some countries, about the same in some, and slightly worse in some. Not imaginary, but badly exaggerated as well as ineptly treated.

    https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

    RoatanBill , says: August 23, 2020 at 11:48 am GMT
    @mark tapley

    I'm a business owner. There's no point in me opening up because the customer base is stupid enough to believe the lie. All I would be doing is running up my expenses.

    This scam is a stroke of evil genius. What will stop it is economic collapse, nothing else.

    HarvardSqEddy , says: August 23, 2020 at 7:44 pm GMT
    @RoatanBill

    But wouldn't economic collapse mean there'd be nothing left to stop?

    [Aug 24, 2020] What I don't understand is why there hasn't been an investigation into the mysterious upper respiratory virus that broke out at the Greenspring Retirement Community in Fairfax County, Virginia last summer. 63 people became ill and three died

    Aug 24, 2020 | www.unz.com

    Minnesota Mary , says: August 23, 2020 at 9:30 pm GMT

    What I don't understand is why there hasn't been an investigation into the mysterious upper respiratory virus that broke out at the Greenspring Retirement Community in Fairfax County, Virginia last summer. 63 people became ill and three died. Very unusual for something like that to break out in the summer months. Is there a connection to Covid-19? Fort Detrick Lab in Maryland is about an hour away from the breakout.

    Godfree Roberts , says: Website August 23, 2020 at 10:57 pm GMT

    Curb your enthusiasm for the WSJ. Western media and get away with portraying China's government as 'opaque' because so few of their writers read Chinese. In fact, self-criticism is built into Chinese governance as these comments by Shao Yiming, virologist and chief HIV/AIDS expert at the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CCDC), and the head of the CCDC, Dr. George Gao, illustrate.

    Like most such Western 'revelations,' the story appeared in Chinese newspapers last April and in the Japanese news in May:

    [Hide MORE]

    Caixin: Many people compare China's CDC with the U.S. counterpart and call for the agency to have greater authority. What's your thought?

    Dr. George Gao: We must understand the technical nature of the work at CDCs. They use scientific methods to carry out surveillance of infectious diseases, assess risks and send timely alerts. They also carry out intervention based on the nature of the epidemic and set up national standards and guidance to deal with diseases. But it is almost impossible for China's CDC system to complete such tasks with their current resources and coordination capacity. The Covid-19 outbreak proves the problems and the urgent need for CDC reforms. There are about 20,000 people working in the American CDC system, compared with only 2,000 in China, and they cover almost four times the population of the U.S. The U.S. CDC has more than 500 people focusing on research, warning, intervention, public education and emergency response related to flu virus, but the team in China is only 2 0.

    There should be dedicated teams to track and conduct long-term studies of seasonal flu, novel influenza and respiratory infections. They need to carry out massive surveillance, sample collection, testing and analysis to study the virus and response measures. Such tasks can't be completed with only 10 to 20 people.

    China has identified 36 infectious diseases in the Law on the Prevention and Control of Infectious Diseases, but fewer than half of the diseases are under study by dedicated teams. Although the China CDC has strived to hire high-end talent over the past 10 years, it has difficulties retaining them. Institution-building should be enhanced in the disease control system. We should eliminate certain institutional barriers such as limiting CDC's responsibility to human disease control while assigning animal disease surveillance to agricultural departments. In the U.S., the CDC regularly monitors risks from animals. The frequent outbreak of zoonotic diseases (those transmitted from animals) reminds us of the importance of cross-department cooperation.

    On the other hand, the national CDC should not only function in Beijing. In countries like the U.S. and Russia, the national CDC often has branches and dispatches teams to states and cities to collect first-hand information. I think in China, while strengthening the power of the national CDC, it is also important to combine disease control departments at the provincial level with the CDC for better coordination.

    It is a great pity that the direct reporting system to monitor infectious disease set up after the SARS outbreak didn't play its due role during this epidem ic.

    Under the rules, the cases should be submitted to the system whenever there are more than three unknown pneumonia cases. The system is in place with a network covering more than 70,000 reporting points across the country, and doctors can do it with a simple click. The reports will be simultaneously submitted to the national and local level of the Disease Control and Prevention Center (CDC). The idea of the direct reporting system is to reduce administrative intervention and save time in the face of an epidemic.

    But after 15 years of operation of this costly system, all the efforts unbelievably turned out to be in vain, and hierarchical review and administrative intervention were back in place. Why were there such actions, which violate the Law on the Prevention and Control of Infectious Diseases, could happen in government and law enforcement departments? Why didn't local experts fulfill their duty according to the infectious disease reporting rules? And why did the National Health Commission and its experts fail to collect important information in a timely w ay? Whether we can find true and adequate answers to these questions will be important to future work.

    And as to

    An entirely new disease that spreads in silent, asymptomatic fashion can easily escape initial detection, and we should not be surprised that no one in China noticed the Wuhan outbreak when it first began in October or November.

    Obviously, it was spreading in silent, asymptomatic fashion in the USA much earlier, as lab tests and image analyses have shown. The difference between China's and our CDCs was that that they were looking for it and we issued restraining orders to anyone who attempted to test for it.

    _________________________________________________
    Why 'Smart' Covid-19 Virus May Be Here to Stay. By Yang Rui, Denise Jia and Han Wei. Caixin, Mar 19, 2020

    https://www.caixinglobal.com/2020-03-19/exclusive-why-smart-covid-19-virus-may-be-here-to-stay-101530816.html

    https://www.caixinglobal.com/2020-05-27/china-should-remove-red-tape-for-disease-control-agencies-official-says-101559750.html

    https://www.caixinglobal.com/2020-06-12/china-debates-revamp-to-disease-control-system-101566601.html

    [Aug 24, 2020] We will never find out who was behind the Great Coronavirus Reset

    While the virus is perfectly real, its severity has been intentionally and systematically exaggerated, and that is clearly is provable. So the working hypoethisi is that somebody badly needed Coronavirus reset, iether for political or financial purposes or both.
    Aug 24, 2020 | www.unz.com

    onebornfree , says: Website August 23, 2020 at 12:13 am GMT

    "Who is behind the Great Reset "?

    Lawsuits and court cases ain't gonna do it. These motherfuckers own the courts.

    [Aug 23, 2020] COVID hysteria kills.- The Telegraph - Sic Semper Tyrannis

    Aug 23, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

    23 AUGUST 2020 "COVID hysteria kills." The Telegraph

    " ... Research commissioned that July by the firm Kekst CNC showed how far public perceptions about the pandemic had been skewed, finding they were inclined to believe the spread and fatality was more than a hundred times worse than the reality.

    For example, the average Briton was found last month to estimate that the disease had wiped out as much as 7 per cent of the United Kingdom, which would equate to around 4.6 million people, rather than the actual rate in the tens of thousands. They estimate just over 22 per cent of the population have had Covid-19, which at just over 14.6 million people would be well over the current confirmed case tally of 322,000.

    " When people estimate risk, they overestimate it massively ," says King College London's Professor Neil Greenberg, who works with Public Health England as part of the Health Protection Research Unit for Emergency Preparedness and Response. "We are very poor as a public at estimating what risk really means."

    That does not mean the threat posed by Covid-19 can be summarily dismissed, but experts are keen for a sense of proportion.

    Prof Udi Qimron, the incoming head of clinical microbiology and immunology at Tel Aviv University, recently highlighted that 99.9 per cent of the world's population has so far survived the virus, as the total number of coronavirus deaths does not exceed 0.1 per cent of the total population anywhere around the world. (See the table below for the latest data on European deaths)


    ---------------

    Nervousness? Apprehension? Nah! Not in the US. Here it is just plain old gutlessness. We are not the people our ancestors were. pl

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/08/22/hysteria-dangerous-coronavirus-symptom/


    Jack , 23 August 2020 at 01:06 PM

    It's clear now Florida + Sweden mix model for covid was correct strategy.

    Protect elderly and sick from infection, maintain economic activities and secure your pharmaceutical supply chains.

    Economic destruction by doomsday advocates caused job losses across the world.

    https://twitter.com/amlivemon/status/1297532424700796930?s=21

    As this article in the Daily Mail notes Sweden's policy worked as well as the lockdown policy without the economic destruction.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8652523/No-lockdown-no-hysteria-DOMINIC-SANDBROOK-asks-Sweden-proof-got-terribly-wrong.html

    Col. Lang is correct. "We are not the people our ancestors were." We are an afraid people. We wouldn't otherwise trade our liberty for the false security of mass surveillance, government propaganda, and this lockdown that continues. Sad!

    Mike Whitney , 23 August 2020 at 01:36 PM

    I wonder if you would be interested in publishing this excellent short article on the stoic and highly-principled tank commander, Heinz Guderian??

    He may have fought on the wrong side, but he fought bravely and honorably.

    https://www.unz.com/gdurocher/general-heinz-guderian-on-hitler-and-leadership/

    Deap , 23 August 2020 at 04:07 PM

    As Albert Camus wrote in The Plague: potentially deadly events like this give some people their sole reason for living. And the cure, for them, becomes fatal.

    Serge , 23 August 2020 at 06:10 PM

    Hi Colonel, this is totally unrelated but I thought that you would find this Houthi video that I saw off of Al Masdar interesting:
    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/watch-ansarallah-operation-to-eliminate-isis-leader-of-yemen/

    Shows the Houthis wiping out the main IS bastion in Yemen earlier in the week. Prisoners treated well, they wouldn't be treated like this in Syria/Iraq or in any country where franchises exist.

    VietnamVet , 23 August 2020 at 07:14 PM

    The risk is relative. It is nil if you are not exposed to a coronavirus shedding person. If you must work with the public to get paid, live in a multi-generational household, or are over 70 the risks of getting ill and dying are greater. Coronavirus has killed 180,558 Americans to date which is almost five times more than the 36,750 who died in automobile accidents last year. The virus is the third leading cause of death in America after heart disease and cancer. The is no national coordination and funding to test every American daily to see who is ill and who is not. Without universal testing there is absolutely no way to know the risk of going out the door. With testing and agreement by the American public to isolate if the daily antigen test positive and receive government healthcare, the pandemic can be ended without needing a vaccine. This would require healthcare for all and a working government which the ruling elite are absolutely against. Although the costs of the national testing program are less than the amount already lost in economic activity from the Pandemic Depression.

    The basic problem is the US public health system was dismantled so for-profit hospitals and professional managers could extract wealth from the ill. Money is earned by treating the patients not curing them. Employee based health insurance by design does not cover everyone leaving a hodge-podge of government programs; the VA, Medicare, Medicaid and local programs for the left-overs. The current US system is simply incapable of containing the pandemic. Only a functional government like New Zealand or South Korea can.

    The US federal government decided to do nothing and wait for a for-profit vaccine next year. 300,000 Americans are projected to die this year. If there is no vaccine or treatment, the death toll from coronavirus could reach 675,000 - the number who died of the Spanish flu in the USA in 1918 and 1919 (but with a 1/3 fewer people). No big deal for Wall Street who got 4 trillion dollars to keep charging upwards; unless, the unrest continues and expands.

    Escarlata , 23 August 2020 at 07:37 PM

    Peaceful transition of power to this people...

    https://twitter.com/Ruptly/status/1297575577902145536

    Lars , 23 August 2020 at 08:09 PM

    What I read in Swedish media does not correspond well with what I see reported by others, usually from outside of the country. Sweden has done worse than its close neighbors Norway and Finland and they are paying a rather steep economic price for their inaction. Regarding Florida, where I live, the infections are not receding yet and we have yet to see what will happen with opening the schools. I suspect the misinformation has a political purpose. There are more people in Florida wearing masks now, mainly due to local municipalities requiring them and that is positive. Some think that is a political issue, failing to realize it is an IQ test.

    nbsp; turcopolier , 23 August 2020 at 08:23 PM

    lars

    You see what you want to see in the press depending on what you choose to read. Yes, lefties like you always want to talk down to people. You are typical. Why are you darkening my door again?

    nbsp; turcopolier , 23 August 2020 at 08:25 PM

    Escarlata

    You should go out and get a job in which you would work for your own money and stop letting daddy take care of you like a little girl.

    nbsp; turcopolier , 23 August 2020 at 08:30 PM

    vietnamvet

    Judy Miller the journo queen used to tell me that I am a gloomy gus, but I am nothing compared to you. When did you last have a positive thought? Was it painful?

    nbsp; Fred , 23 August 2020 at 08:38 PM

    Lars,

    Your information seems to be out of date or terribly localized. The discontent with the face burka mandate is increasing, though there's nothing stopping you from wearing one 24/7.

    "Florida reported 4,300 new cases Saturday, continuing a downward trend that has seen the number drop from above 10,000 new cases per day a month ago."

    "Hospitalizations due to COVID-19 have also been declining. "

    https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/08/23/florida-health-officials-report-fewer-than-3000-new-coronavirus-cases-51-deaths/

    https://www.businessinsider.com/disney-world-attendance-plummets-80-even-as-florida-cases-decline-2020-8

    nbsp; turcopolier , 23 August 2020 at 08:42 PM

    vietnamvet

    The US national collective death toll is about .05% thus far. Can't handle that, eh?

    [Aug 21, 2020] If You're Reading This, You Might Be A Conspiracy Theorist

    Highly recommended!
    Science now is a highly politicized science and that's a huge problem. Ask USSR scientists about possible consequences. Is Kapitsa noted long ago in his obitiary on Ernest Rutherford death as soon as science become rich it lost its freedom. "
    "The year that Rutherford died (1938) there disappeared forever the happy days of free scientific work which gave us such delight in our youth. Science has lost her freedom. Science has become a productive force. She has become rich but she has become enslaved and part of her is veiled in secrecy. I do not know whether Rutherford would continue to joke and laugh as he used to.
    Lysenkoism in Stalins's USSR was the first robin of this process. Now it became commonplace. That's why we see so many pseudo-scientists -- politicians who pretend to be scientists like Fauci. and so much corruption like among Professors of economics (all those neoclassical economic scoundrels)
    Aug 20, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

    Authored by John Steppling via Off-Guardian.org,

    "...a permanent modern scenario: apocalypse looms and it doesn't occur."

    - Susan Sontag, AIDs and its Metaphors

    "I should not misuse this opportunity to give you a lecture about, say, logic. I call this a misuse, for to explain a scientific matter to you it would need a course of lectures and not an hour's paper. Another alternative would have been to give you what's called a popular scientific lecture, that is a lecture intended to make you believe that you understand a thing which actually you don't understand, and to gratify what I believe to be one of the lowest desires of modern people, namely the superficial curiosity about the latest discoveries of science. I rejected these alternatives."

    - Ludwig Wittgenstein, A Lecture on Ethics

    If you're reading this, then you've probably been called a conspiracy theorist. Also you've been derided and shamed for questioning the "science" of the Covid debacle.

    The idea of science is now a badly corrupted idea. In a nation, today, (the USA) which in educational terms ranks 25th globally in science skills and reading, and well below that in math; all one hears is a clarion call to science. In reading skills the US placed below Malta, Portugal, and right about the same as Kazakhstan.

    But in a nation that no longer reads, and *can* no longer read, it is not surprising that knowledge is absorbed via the new hieroglyphics of gifs (interestingly the creator of gifs wanted it pronounced with a soft g the more to sound like a peanut butter brand) and memes.

    So-called 'response memes' are the new version of conversation, and most register and communicate (sic) confusion. As beer ad marketers know, the state of your brain after consuming a six pack is pretty much the standard target ideal for advertising. And it relays a message that six pack confusion is actually a good and perhaps even sexy state in which to find oneself.

    Education is for those with money, those who can afford the proper foundational skills to get into Harvard, MIT, Cal Tech and the Stanford. For everyone else science is Star Trek.

    But I digress. The point is that most Americans imagine that they revere science, and they ridicule anyone they think of as unscientific. But they think of it in cult terms, really. Its a religion of sorts. The only people who don't are those 'real' religious zealots, Dominionist and Charismatic Christians (like Mike Pompeo, Mike Pence, Rick Perry, Betsy DeVos et al) who hold positions of enormous power in the US government under the least scientific president in history.

    The Christian right doesn't like any science, ANY science. But for most of that target demographic (the educated mostly white 30%), the cry is to "trust the science" even the great Greta says to "trust the science".

    https://lockerdome.com/lad/13084989113709670?pubid=ld-dfp-ad-13084989113709670-0&pubo=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com&rid=www.zerohedge.com&width=890

    The problem is, science is not neutral, its as politicized as media and news and the pronouncements of celebrities.

    In May 2020, The Lancet published an article revisiting the 1957 and 1968 Influenza pandemics.

    The 1957 outbreak was not caused by a coronavirus -- the first human coronavirus would not be discovered until 1965 -- but by an influenza virus. However, in 1957, no one could be sure that the virus that had been isolated in Hong Kong was a new pandemic strain or simply a descendant of the previous 1918–19 pandemic influenza virus.

    The result was that as the UK's weekly death count mounted, peaking at about 600 in the week ending Oct 17, 1957, there were few hysterical tabloid newspaper headlines and no calls for social distancing. Instead, the news cycle was dominated by the Soviet Union's launch of Sputnik and the aftermath of the fire at the Windscale nuclear reactor in the UK.

    By the time this influenza pandemic -- known colloquially at the time as "Asian flu" -- had concluded the following April, an estimated 20 000 people in the UK and 80 000 citizens in the USA were dead. Worldwide, the pandemic, sparked by a new H2N2 influenza subtype, would result in more than 1 million deaths.

    To date, Covid 19 has not reached the million death marker in the US, and yet we are seeing the most draconian lockdowns in modern history, the total suspension of democratic process and a level of hysteria (especially in the U.S. and UK) unprecedented. I wrote about some aspects of this on my blog here , mostly touching on the cultural effects

    Allow me to quote The Lancet again.

    The subsequent 1968 influenza pandemic -- or "Hong Kong flu" or "Mao flu" as some western tabloids dubbed it -- would have an even more dramatic impact, killing more than 30 000 individuals in the UK and 100 000 people in the USA, with half the deaths among individuals younger than 65 years -- the reverse of COVID-19 deaths in the current pandemic.

    Yet, while at the height of the outbreak in December, 1968, The New York Times described the pandemic as "one of the worst in the nation's history", there were few school closures and businesses, for the most, continued to operate as normal.

    I remember the 68 Hong Kong flu. I was in my last year of high school. The summer after was Woodstock, the 'summer of love'. Not a lot of social distancing going on. But we are past numbers and statistics having any real meaning. The Covid narrative is now in the realm of allegory.

    The media perspective is utterly predictable. Liberal outlets that have the inside track to government are seen to be reinforcing the mainstream story (VOX, Slate, Huff Post, The Guardian and Washington Post). In a recent VOX article the message was only a sociopath would NOT wear a mask and that the 'science' was unanimous.

    Of course its no such thing. But the message of sites like VOX, or Daily Beast, or Wa Po or the truly reprehensible Guardian, are always going to be to hammer away 'on message'. The same is true for what passes for moderate news organs like the NY Times, ABC News, The Hill, and BBC. There has been virtually no dissenting opinions expressed in these rags.

    All these news outlets are given clear messages by the spin doctors in government, by the White House, and by contacts within the State Department and Pentagon. And by the advertising firms employed by the state (such as Ruder Finn).

    "Ad agencies are not in the business of doing science."

    - Dr. Arnold S. Relman (Madison Ave. Has Growing Role In the Business of Drug Research, NY Times 2002)

    The WHO, the CDC, and most every other NGO or government agency of any size hires advertising firms. The WHO, which is tied to the United Nations, is a reasonably sinister organization, actually.

    Just picking up a random publication from the WHO, on what they call 'the tobacco epidemic' and you find on page 33 the following chapter heading "Objective: Effective surveillance, monitoring and evaluation systems in place to monitor tobacco use."

    Reading further and all this is really saying is that the populace of any country is best put under surveillance. It's for their own good, you see.

    But back to the science. Here is a small trip down memory lane

    Institutions of medicine, global and national possess no more integrity than your average NGO (Amnesty International, Médecins Sans Frontières, Oxfam et al). And that means not very much.

    To understand the nature of institutional corruption one must understand Imperialism. The institutions of Imperialist nations are going to further Imperialist ideology. (see Antonio Gramsci, ideological hegemony). The US is not in the business of helping Americans .

    Modern monopoly forms better reflect that scientific knowledge, and its advanced application to production, are concentrated, ultimately, not in physical objects but in human beings and human interaction with those objects. It is monopoly of the labour power of the most highly educated workers, by both imperialist states and Multi National Corporations, that forms the ultimate and most stable base of imperialist reproduction.

    – Sam King (Lenin's theory of imperialism: a defence of its relevance in the 21st century, MLR)

    The idea of super-exploitation needs to be conceptually generalised at the necessary level of abstraction and incorporated in the theory of imperialism. Super-exploitation is a specific condition within the capitalist mode of production [ ] the hidden common essence defining imperialism.

    he working class of the oppressed nations/Third World/Global South is systematically paid below the value of labour power of the working class of the oppressor nations/First World/Global North. This is not because the Southern working class produces less value, but because it is more oppressed and more exploited.

    – Andy Higginbottom (Structure and Essence in Capital 1, quoted by John Smith Imperialism in the Twenty-First Century)

    The US jobless rate just hit 2.1 million. Officially. Making the total something over forty million. Its much higher in reality. Nobody has work. There is no work and we are at the start of a period of massive evictions, foreclosures, and delinquencies - and the homeless population will soon reach Biblical proportions (in some cities, such as Los Angeles, its already Biblical). Will be simply of a magnitude never before seen.

    Hence the authoritarian policing of lockdowns in, for example, New Zealand, suggests something like a practice run. The ruling class in western nations knows full well this is coming. And one wonders if it's not, in fact, a part of the plan (oh here is where someone says conspiracy theory probably Louis Proyect).

    Yes it's a fucking conspiracy theory. It is a theory based on evidence, however.

    Why are the US and UK and a host of other countries deliberately ensuring a massive depression? Because they care about your health? They are worried we all might catch the flu? Has the US ever demonstrated a concern with your health and well being before?

    Remember how many discretionary tax dollars go to health care and how much to defense. Conspiracies do occur. The denial of that fact seems to be a hallmark of the pseudo or false left. Does the suspension of democratic process not cause this soft left any problems at all? Look at Sweden, at Belarus no lockdown and no problem.

    It should be noted that there are a great many terrific doctors in the US. Dedicated and brilliant, often. But they are not the system. The system is run for profit.

    With about three-fourths of Americans under lockdown, the unintended consequences will be vast. There has been a notable decrease in the number of heart attack and stroke patients arriving at hospitals, presumably because they are afraid of catching the coronavirus or of not finding a hospital bed.

    As the economy spirals downward, we can also expect an increase in mental health crises, domestic violence and suicides. While lockdown supporters say that to have a functioning economy, we must have good public health, the reverse is also true: To have good public health, we must have a functioning economy.

    – Alex Berezow PhD (Geopolitical Futures, 2020)

    Alfred Willener wrote an interesting book in 1970, analysing May 68 in France. He analyses the answers students gave to various questionnaires they responded to. The section regarding science is worth quoting.

    'The scandalous fact is that, for all the means that science has put at our disposal, most people live not much better than in the Middle Ages'. The system benefits from science in the following way: through the atom bomb, through 'the power of statistical research', through computers, through the chemical industry being 'in the hands of the state', through space research.

    'In the end, you realize', concludes one reasonably logical reply, 'that technological progress, which makes economic growth possible, does not satisfy the fundamental needs of man and is used above all to maintain and strengthen the system'.

    Lastly, I should like to quote one quite unexpected reply, which forms the extreme point of pessimism: ' Everyone is oppressed by science.'

    – Alfred Willener (The Action-Image of Society on Cultural Politicization)

    I doubt seriously one would get such responses today in any European or North American country. The contemporary indoctrination regards science is acute. And the media abounds in junk science. Click bait science. And this is where most people have their opinions formed for them.

    There is a paper put out by one of the founders of the World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab, called The Great Reset. The conclusion of the book reads

    ...at a global level, if viewed in terms of the global population affected, the corona crisis is (so far) one of the least deadly pandemics the world has experienced over the last 2000 years."

    In other words, a mortality of .06% is simply not commensurate with the extreme measures the governments of the world (the West in particular) are taking.

    There is no question, none, that those measures, the lockdown, the masks, the distancing, and the attending *diseases of despair*, will kill more people by a factor of ten than the virus itself.

    This is not even to begin discussing the psychological harm done, in particular to children. And not just harm to children, but severe harm to the most vulnerable .

    What is being internalized by children is three fold. One, there is something inherently sick and contagious about ME. Two, everyone MIGHT be a threat to my health. And three, obey authority, because you don't want to end up like those smelly homeless people were are trying to hard to avoid.

    Children take things personally. They tend to blame themselves. Even in the comparative sanity of Norway, where I reside, children are increasingly anxious about the world. How could they not be? All this for a health risk of .06%.

    But it is more than just the decimation of the economy in the US and UK. It is a dismantling of the culture. One in three museums closed because of Covid will not re-open. Ever. Where does all that art go?

    Just a guess but probably very wealthy collectors will gobble it up at wholesale prices.

    The predictable outcome of these lockdowns, certainly in the US, is a guaranteed minimum income. Very minimum. Restrictions on travel, all freedom of movement in fact, will not soon return to normal. Various forms of surveillance and tracking, as well as health certifications, are the goal of the state.

    Also, if this pandemic succeeded so well, with so little resistance, why not have another? And there is another aspect to the SWAT mask police, and that is that western society is becoming alarmingly hypochondriacal. Children are kept out of school for runny noses. If all kids with snotty noses were kept out of class, nobody would get an education.

    There is a dire future of two or three generations now developing and maturing with very weak immune systems. So that if a natural mutation takes place one day, from a Corona virus or any other, a genuinely serious pandemic could kill tens of millions.

    It is not a speculation that there are people who prosper and even benefit during an economic crisis -- as smaller business owners struggle, large corporations and banks benefit from huge government subsidies, giving them more power to buy failing small businesses, for example. And it is a fact that many of those people have enormous economic power to shape the policies that can benefit themselves.

    It is not a speculation that they would appreciate having strict measures of control against the people by limiting their freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, and freedom to travel, or by installing means of surveillance, check points and official certifications for activities that might give freedom to the people beyond the capitalist framework.

    It is not a speculation that they would benefit from moving our social interactions to the digital realm, which can commodify our activities as marketable data for the advertising industry, insurance industry and any other moneyed social institutions Including education, political institution, legal institution, and financial institution.

    Such matters should be seen within the context of the western history being shaped by unelected capitalists with their enormous networks of social institutions.

    – Hiroyuki Hamada (Wrong Kind of Green, April 2020)

    The collapse of retail is accelerating. This is emerging as a monopolization of retail. Few shops will remain, in fact, except luxury stores in select gated areas. The rest will be online and probably rudimentary. The culture and the economy are being strip-mined and recreated for a select clientele. The collapse of the economy means the collapse of the bottom 90% or so.

    The very richest men and corporations on the planet are making huge profits.

    And yet, there are precious few voices of dissent to the master narrative in the US. In Norway, the lockdown was about five weeks. But its a sparsely populated country and one hardly noticed it save for the kids being home and not in school. But schools reopened and the Prime Minister actually made a speech apologizing, in effect, for an *unnecessary* lockdown. She had been frightened.

    But now, with a mild uptick in positive cases the country is considering stricter limitations on travel. Why?

    There is no uptick in deaths, only in positive test results. The fact remains the virus attacks the aged and the already sick. But this is very telling, I think. The Norwegian government doesn't want to be seen as disobedient. They don't want to not follow the grand plan provided by western agencies and experts. Even if they seemingly don't really believe it.

    (The saddest aspect is the voice of Dr. Mads Gilbert, a known advocate for Palestinian rights, who has weighed in on the side of fear. Why? I have no idea. But it is worth noting his predictions from March 2020 were staggeringly wrong.)

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    But clearly the groupthink pressure is powerful and small nations do not want to be singled out for bucking the *science* . There are economic coercions threatened, tacitly, as well. The pressure to conform is huge and it takes a Herculean effort -- both individually and as a nation, to resist. And *experts* seem to have a hard time admitting they were wrong.

    The science has been consistently wrong from day one.

    As I say, this is now allegory. Or fable. There is nothing reasonable or rational in the lockdown measures of the US and UK and NZ. Or anywhere. And this is not even to touch upon the criminality of the Gates Foundation and Bill Gates buying public influence and visibility. Not trained in any medical discipline, Gates has somehow made himself one of the faces of the pandemic.

    And to deconstruct Gates' language is to find a disturbing quality of authoritarian hubris. Gates utters declarations as if he were God speaking to his flock. All from a man who has done little save steal from his partners and exploit the poor of India and Africa. One of the most striking aspects of this whole last few months has been the enormous and coordinated effort the Gates machine has put into rehabilitating his image.

    If you google "Crimes of the Gates Foundation" for example, you will get ten different fact-checkers officially denying any crimes and another half dozen articles ridiculing those who question Gates motives, his profit from vaccines, or even his alignment with eugenicists (depopulation adherents)– all are derided as, yes, conspiracy theorists.

    If you dare to question the rushing of an untested vaccine you are called an anti-vaxxer.

    My children are vaccinated. I just don't like the idea of a hurried untested vaccine produced for a virus that needs no vaccine. And one promoted by a creepy millionaire.

    But clearly the Gates charm offensive is in overdrive. The pastel cardigan is everywhere. And yet, his favorable rating in recent surveys is around 56%. That is actually not very high given the amount of self-promotion involved. It's better than Mark Zuckerberg and Joe Biden, though. Gates is not likeable. No amount of spin can change that.

    The final factor to note is the Trump effect. Many liberals would literally rather see dead in the street if it meant discrediting Trump. It is no longer quite a zero sum game, though. But overall the hatred of Trump is now at a religious level, too.

    And behold, the opposition is Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. If you want a window in the black heart of Biden, watch and/or listen to his testimony around the Waco inferno. The inherent sadism and lack of humanity is glaringly apparent.

    As for Kamala Harris:

    As a San Francisco social worker, I sat on the school district committee that met with families of chronically truant students. Once, when we asked a student why he didn't go to school, he said there was too much police tape and shootings at his school bus stop.

    Harris, as CA Attorney General, was putting parents/caregivers in jail if their child was chronically truant. Also as Attorney General, she denied a DNA test to Kevin Cooper, a very likely innocent man who came within hours of execution in 2004.

    – Riva Enteen (Counterpunch Aug. 2020)

    These are the servants of capital.

    The left should be emphasising the economic aspect of lockdown because it is the working class who are the principal victims of lockdown."

    - Phil Shannon (Lockdown Skeptics, June 2020)

    A Downing street tweet today:

    We're putting tougher measures in place to target serious breaches of coronavirus restrictions. Fines for not wearing a face-covering will double for repeat offences, up to £3,200."

    This is a class-based assault. The wealthy will not be fined for not wearing a face-covering on their private beaches, or dinner parties at the yacht club.

    [Aug 02, 2020] Dems will keep their knee on the throat of small businesses for as long as they possibly can for the sole purpose of crippling the economy to defeat Trump in November

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    Old White Guy , 3 hours ago

    Democrat politicians will keep their knee on the throat of small businesses for as long as they possibly can for the sole purpose of crippling the economy to defeat Trump in November. They don't care about the damage this causes. Keeping schools closed in the fall will result in single parents staying home from work to care for their kids. At very least it stifles the economy.

    Send kids back to school, the majority wants this.

    Vote in person November 3rd, make your vote count.

    kaiserhoffredux , 3 hours ago

    Exactly. There is no logic, reason, or precedent for quarantining healthy people.

    To stop a virus, of all things? Ridiculous.

    Ignatius , 2 hours ago

    They've perverted the language as regards "cases."

    A person could test positive and it might well be the most healthy situation: his body encountered the virus, fought it off, and now though asymptomatic, retains antibodies from a successful body response. The irony is that what I've described is the very response the vaxx pushers expect from their vaccines.

    Shameless political posturing.

    coletrickle45 , 2 hours ago

    So if you have 99 - 99.8% chance of surviving this faux virus

    But a 100% chance of destroying lives through poverty, bankruptcy, small business collapse, job losses, domestic abuse, depression, anxiety, fear.

    What would you choose? Cost benefit analysis seems pretty obvious.

    Gold Banit , 2 hours ago

    Most people just regurgitate things they hear, they have lost the ability of creative and free thought.They have been deliberately dumbed down. The entire system has created a mutant society which is easy to control and manipulate.

    "The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the minds of the masses." ― Malcolm X ay_arrow

    sensibility , 2 hours ago

    The COVID-19 Hoax has "Nothing" to do with "Real" Science, It's 100% about "Political" Science.

    Therefore, No Matter What, Politicians will Bend and Manipulate this for "Political" Gain.

    Who Stirred and Exposed the Swamp?

    The Swamp Inhabitants Desperately Want & Intend to do Whatever it Takes to Return to the Old Pre Trump Days of Operating Above the Law Without Exposure and Impunity.

    Consequently, Those who Support the COVID-19 Hoax are Swamp Members & Supporters.

    Know your Adversary!

    monty42 , 2 hours ago

    Trump didn't drain, stir, or expose the swamp, sorry that dog don't hunt. He has appointed recycled establishment swamp creatures his entire term. He appointed Fauci to the Covidian Taskforce. He says wearing masks is patriotic.

    The promises he made his followers did not manifest. Another 4 years after being lied to is just the same old routine, nothing new.

    Until you people are honest about the reality of the situation, you'll never stop the cycle of D/R destruction.

    [Aug 02, 2020] Politics, Not Science, Is Keeping Schools Closed -

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    Politics, Not Science, Is Keeping Schools Closed


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    Authored by Yinon Weiss via RealClearPolitics.com,

    Politicians speak about following the science to set COVID-19 policy, but their decisions are more about political objectives than they are about medical efficacy.

    Why else did California Gov. Gavin Newsom shut down retail businesses in March when the state had under 300 cases per day but allow them to be open in July when the state clocked in at over 10,000 cases per day?

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    Why else would Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear allow liquor stores to stay open but close down churches? Why did Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer insist that buying lottery tickets remain legal but made it illegal to buy garden supplies ? And how did New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo use "science" to prohibit outdoor funerals but allow outdoor protests?

    But as badly as our lockdowns have damaged local businesses, a potentially even bigger problem is created by the physical closure of schools. One of the most important functions of a civil society is to protect and educate its children, and the cancellation of in-person education stands to become one of the most detrimental acts of collateral damage during this pandemic.

    California currently expects its 5-year-olds to complete kindergarten exclusively through online distance learning. For this dubious undertaking, the politicians are given passionate political cover. The Los Angeles Teachers Union maintains that "the only people guaranteed to benefit from the premature reopening of schools amidst a rapidly accelerating pandemic are billionaires and the politicians they've purchased" -- as if billionaires typically send their kids to L.A. public schools. The wealthy will send their children to in-person private schools or hire additional tutors, while most American families will suffer from a widening education gap that could set their kids back years. Worst of all, none of this is medically substantiated.

    Children Are Safe

    There is a great deal of fear generated in the media about risk to children, but the truth is that children are incredibly resistant to coronavirus. So much so that children are far more likely to die from the flu , or even just from driving to school, than from COVID-19.

    The CDC has recorded a total of 20 COVID-19 deaths in children ages 5-14 compared to almost 2,000 deaths from non-COVID causes in the same time period for the same age group. It means children have been 100 times more likely to die from non-COVID causes during the pandemic than from COVID. This puts the risk of COVID death for children 5 to 14 in the same ballpark as deaths by lightning .

    Claims of long-term damage or mystery illnesses have not been backed by any definitive evidence and they therefore serve more as a scare and intimidation tactic than as a medical guide. The truth is that children so far have had around a 1 in 20,000 rate of COVID-19 hospitalizations, according to the CDC. While controversial to some, Sweden's policy of keeping primary schools open even at the height of the pandemic serves as an excellent counterpoint. With over 1 million children, Sweden did not have a single death of a school-aged child despite full attendance and no masks.

    Sweden is not alone in sending kids to school. Denmark opened its schools back up in April. Finland kept normal class sizes when it reopened. Parts of Montana opened schools back in May, as did parts of Canada and Germany. The Netherlands announced that Dutch students didn't even need to socially distance anymore as they experienced very low transmission rates. Schools all across Europe have reopened successfully, both with and without masks. The risk to the children themselves therefore cannot be used as a justification for the massive damage created by ceasing in-person education. But what about the teachers?

    Transmission From Children to Adults Is Rare

    Science magazine, a preeminent journal that dates to 1880, recently published a comprehensive analysis studying school reopenings around the world and concluded that " younger children rarely spread the virus to one another or bring it home. "

    A study in Switzerland, including a review of World Health Organization contact tracing, failed to find evidence of a single case of a child passing coronavirus to an adult . A comprehensive study in Iceland isolated SARS-CoV-2 samples from every positive case, sequenced the virus genome, and tracked the mutation patterns. This analysis, along with contact tracing, allowed researchers to identify definitively who passed the virus to whom. The study concluded "[E]ven if children do get infected, they are less likely to transmit the disease to others than adults. We have not found a single instance of a child infecting parents." A study of schools in Ireland found " no evidence of secondary transmission of COVID-19 from children attending school. "

    New Zealand conducted a study across 15 schools in which 18 individuals with COVID-19 were in close contact with 735 other students and 128 staff members, yet no teacher or staff member contacted COVID-19 from any of the initial 18 cases and only two students out of the 735 would later test positive. The New Zealand study concluded: "Our investigation found no evidence of children infecting teachers."

    Cases and close contacts among teachers and students in 10 New Zealand high schools showing one secondary case in a student. Source: "COVID-19 in Schools – the Experience in NSW"

    Denmark, The Netherlands, Finland, Belgium, and Austria all opened schools and " found no evidence of increased spread of the novel coronavirus after schools reopened. " The same was found in scientific studies in France , Sweden , and Germany . A leading British epidemiologist goes even further to claim there is not a single known case of a teacher being infected of coronavirus from a student anywhere in the world.

    Since there could still be a rare school outbreak, such as experienced in Israel, students with high-risk household members should be given a distance education option, and teachers who believe themselves or their households to be at high risk should be allowed to teach remotely, balancing the risk for all parties. This way healthy students can be be educated by healthy teachers. With science overwhelmingly pointing to reopening schools, why do so many schools intend to remain closed?

    The Politics of Teaching

    If children are at minimal risk, transmission to adults is rare, and both can be accommodated with optional distance learning, why are some schools suspending all in-person education? It's certainly not because of the parents, who would be the last people to send their children into a dangerous situation. The vast majority of parents support reopening schools with modifications, perhaps because they best understand the cost-benefit of depriving their children of a full education.

    The reason many schools won't open, just like why so many places originally locked down, comes back to fear and politics. The Los Angeles' teachers union, for example, recently came out with a list of demands before returning to teach in person. These included defunding the police, ending charter schools, "Medicare for All," and a new wealth tax . It was not until the union came out with these demands that Newsom announced closure of nearly all schools in California -- overriding individual school districts that had planned to open.

    In a brazen announcement, the union put in bold words the conclusion of their argument: "Normal wasn't working for us before. We can't go back" – openly conveying that this negotiation was more about changing what they didn't like about American education and society before the pandemic, and certainly not about what is best for children. Despite overwhelming scientific evidence pointing to the safety of school reopenings, union President Cecily Myart-Cruz labeled doing so " anti-science ." Yet, it's also no wonder that so many teachers have concern for their safety now, as media outlets like CNN continue to run sensationalized stories building up school reopenings as dangerous while downplaying the actual science and evidence.

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    Day Care at School Gives the Game Away

    Cities left with little choice due to their political environment are trying to mitigate the situation for parents. New York City will offer day care for 100,000 students attending schools that are only partially reopening, though this largely defeats the point of keeping children from being at school in the first place. If school closing advocates are correct, this would only expose children to a broader cohort of peers and would make teachers, children, and their caretakers less safe.

    Some districts in California are offering day care right on school campus for half and full day programs , at a cost. So parents can pay to send their kids to school to be watched but not to be taught. Ironically, a student might be physically at a school under the watch of paid day care while simultaneously "attending" the very same school online.

    It is clear that science is not the driving principle behind any of these policies, which helps explain why both the CDC and American Academy of Pediatrics have advocated for opening on-campus education .

    Teachers Are Essential Workers

    There are few functions in society more essential than educating our children. "Education of our children is an essential Texas value," Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton recently wrote in a letter directing that health officials cannot completely close schools, and they certainly cannot preemptively close schools with no evidence of local school spread.

    The CDC recently concluded that "in-person schooling is in the best interest of students, particularly in the context of appropriate mitigation measures similar to those implemented at essential workplaces."

    The education of our children is too essential to be used as a political bargaining chip.

    If nurses can come to work every day and treat the sick and infected, then certainly teachers can be expected to come to work and teach the young and healthy. _arrow 3 Macho Latte , 2 hours ago

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    Question_Mark , 47 minutes ago

    "The Virology Journal" - the official publication of Dr. Fauci's National Institutes of Health - published what is now a blockbuster article on August 22, 2005, under the heading - get ready for this - "Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread." Write the researchers, "We report...that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before of after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage."

    This means, of course, that Dr. Fauci has known for 15 years that chloroquine and its even milder derivative hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) will not only treat a current case of coronavirus ("therapeutic") but prevent future cases ("prophylactic"). So HCQ functions as both a cure and a vaccine. In other worlds, it's a wonder drug for coronavirus. Said Dr. Fauci's NIH in 2005, "concentrations of 10 um completely abolished SARS-CoV infection." Fauci's researchers add, "chloroquine can effectively reduce the establishment of infection and spread of SARS-CoV.

    When one thinks of all the destruction brought about by the so-called lockdown, it hurts to know we are being defrauded. Ouch.

    Indelible Scars , 3 hours ago

    Wife taught for 32 years. She is a badass teacher and the kids obviously loved her. I urged her to get out while the getting was good and now she's happy she did. Her district is a complete mess and almost all of the good teachers have retired or moved to another district. She hates what has happened to education.

    hllnwlz , 1 hour ago

    Teacher here. Agree 100%. The sooner this butch is dead, the freeer we all will be.

    The complete and abject failure of public education is is 100% at the Feds door.

    1) The poor academic performers who become ed/liberal arts majors never could've gone to college without the printed loan money.

    2) the system could not support a 9 month work year, insurance, and pensions not to mention support staff and admin pay and bennies without the fed bc schooling doesnt add enough value to the economy; very few kids leave school able to move directly into a role in the economy productive enough to offset the insane cost of their education.

    3) inflation made moms have to go to work. No one to support the kud and hold them accountable table but, MORE IMPORTANTLY, theres no one to call the school to account when Johnny cant read.

    The Fed is the root of all evil.

    (Okay, I'm oversimplifying, but I'm pissed off.)

    Vince Clortho , 3 hours ago

    The longer students are away from the cultural marxist "education" system the better.

    Schools are now Bolshevik programming mills and the teachers are the willing puppets spreading marxism.

    Defund the schools. Defund the universities, Defund the student loan program.

    Local communities with limited dollars can do a far better job of providing real education.

    A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

    Old White Guy , 3 hours ago

    Democrat politicians will keep their knee on the throat of small businesses for as long as they possibly can for the sole purpose of crippling the economy to defeat Trump in November. They don't care about the damage this causes. Keeping schools closed in the fall will result in single parents staying home from work to care for their kids. At very least it stifles the economy.

    Send kids back to school, the majority wants this.

    Vote in person November 3rd, make your vote count.

    [Jul 31, 2020] If this is indeed the "Fort Detrick flu", as many people here (including me) have speculated upon, do you really believe that "western governments might be persuaded to seek and/or spread truthful data."

    Jul 31, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

    Lurk , Jul 30 2020 22:35 utc | 31

    @ John Iacovelli | Jul 30 2020 22:03 utc | 25

    If this is indeed the "Fort Detrick flu", as many people here (including me) have speculated upon, do you really believe that "western governments might be persuaded to seek and/or spread truthful data."

    I would rather expect these governments (and the lackey media) to cover up all traces of the initial outbreak, classify all high level government briefings about the subject and drown any rational and fact-based discourse in a swamp of hysterical projections and divisive diversions.

    John Iacovelli , Jul 30 2020 23:28 utc | 37

    @Lurk

    "persuaded" is more rhetorical than realistic, certainly. But it doesn't hurt to try. In the case of the tobacco industry and cancer, for example, it took decades, but eventually when 90%+ of the general public saw the link, even the industry had to admit it. And governments, corporations and the powerful spend an awful lot of money to keep the truths of many of their horrible actions from the media... yet some of that information seeps through. We must hope and do what we can.

    May your "Fort Detrick Flu" be mild!

    [Jul 30, 2020] U.S. Officials Disseminate Disinformation About 'Virus Disinformation'

    Notable quotes:
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    "... OneWorld.press ..."
    "... Washington Post ..."
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    U.S. Officials Disseminate Disinformation About 'Virus Disinformation' Getald , Jul 29 2020 17:44 utc | 1

    In another round of their anti-Russian disinformation campaign 'U.S. government officials' claim that some websites loosely connected to Russia are spreading 'virus disinformation'.

    However, no 'virus disinformation' can be found on those sites.

    The Associated Press as well as the New York Times were briefed by the 'officials' and provided write ups.

    AP : US officials: Russia behind spread of virus disinformation

    Two Russians who have held senior roles in Moscow's military intelligence service known as the GRU have been identified as responsible for a disinformation effort meant to reach American and Western audiences, U.S. government officials said. They spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly.

    The information had previously been classified, but officials said it had been downgraded so they could more freely discuss it. Officials said they were doing so now to sound the alarm about the particular websites and to expose what they say is a clear link between the sites and Russian intelligence.

    Between late May and early July, one of the officials said, the websites singled out Tuesday published about 150 articles about the pandemic response, including coverage aimed either at propping up Russia or denigrating the U.S.

    Among the headlines that caught the attention of U.S. officials were "Russia's Counter COVID-19 Aid to America Advances Case for Détente," which suggested that Russia had given urgent and substantial aid to the U.S. to fight the pandemic, and "Beijing Believes COVID-19 is a Biological Weapon," which amplified statements by the Chinese.

    The first mentioned piece, Russia's Counter-COVID Aid To America Advances The Case For A New Detente , is by the well known author Andrew Korybko, a U.S. political analyst living in Moscow. It was published at OneWorld.press . The essay discussed the Russian Coronavirus aid flown in early April from Russia to the U.S. The analyst concludes that such aid can be seen as the beginning of a new détente between the U.S. and Russia.

    There is zero 'virus disinformation' in the Korybko piece. The aid flight did happen and was widely reported. In a response to the allegations the proprietors of O neWorld point out that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in a recent Q&A also alluded to a new détente with Russia. Was that also 'virus disinformation'?

    The second piece the 'officials' pointed out, Beijing believes COVID-19 is a biological weapon , was written In March by Lucas Leiroz, a "research fellow in international law at the Federal University of Rio de Janeiro". It is an exaggerating analysis of the comments and questions a spokesperson of the Chinese Foreign Ministry had made about the possible sources of the Coronavirus.

    The original spokesperson quote is in the piece. Referring to additional sources the author's interpretation may go a bit beyond the quote's meaning. But it is certainly not 'virus disinformation' to raise the same speculative question about the potential sources of the virus which at that time many others were also asking.

    The piece was published by InfoBRICS.org, a "BRICS information portal" which publishes in the languages of the BRICS countries (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa). It is presumably financed by some or all of those countries.

    Another website the 'U.S. officials' have pointed out is InfoRos.ru which publishes in Russian and English. The AP notes of it:

    A headline Tuesday on InfoRos.ru about the unrest roiling American cities read "Chaos in the Blue Cities," accompanying a story that lamented how New Yorkers who grew up under the tough-on-crime approach of former Mayors Rudy Giuliani and Michael Bloomberg "and have zero street smarts" must now "adapt to life in high-crime urban areas."

    Another story carried the headline of "Ukrainian Trap for Biden," and claimed that "Ukrainegate" -- a reference to stories surrounding Biden's son Hunter's former ties to a Ukraine gas company -- "keeps unfolding with renewed vigor."

    U.S. officials have identified two of the people believed to be behind the sites' operations. The men, Denis Valeryevich Tyurin and Aleksandr Gennadyevich Starunskiy, have previously held leadership roles at InfoRos but have also served in a GRU unit specializing in military psychological intelligence and maintain deep contacts there, the officials said.

    InfoRos calls itself a 'news agency' and has some rather boring general interest stuff on its site. But how is its writing in FOX News style about unrest in U.S. cities and about Biden's escapades in the Ukraine 'virus disinformation'? I fail to find any on that site.

    In 2018 some "western intelligence agency" told the Washington Post , without providing any evidence, that InfoRos is related to the Russian military intelligence service GU (formerly GRU):

    Unit 54777 has several front organizations that are financed through government grants as public diplomacy organizations but are covertly run by the GRU and aimed at Russian expatriates, the intelligence officer said. Two of the most significant are InfoRos and the Institute of the Russian Diaspora.

    So InfoRos is getting some public grants and was allegedly previously run by two people who before that worked for the GU. What does that say about the current state and the content it provides? Nothing.

    The NYT adds that hardly anyone is reading the websites the 'U.S. officials' pointed out but that their content is at times copied by more prominent aggregator sites:

    "What we have seen from G.R.U. operations is oftentimes the social media component is a flop, but the narrative content that they write is shared more broadly through the niche media ecosystem," said Renee DiResta, a research manager at the Stanford Internet Observatory, who has studied the G.R.U. and InfoRos ties and propaganda work.

    There are plenty of sites who copy content from various outlets and reproduce it under their name. But that does not turn whatever they publish into disinformation.

    All the pieces mentioned by AP and NYT and attributed to the 'Russian' sites are basically factual and carry no 'virus disinformation'. That makes the 'U.S.officials' claims that they do such the real disinformation campaign.

    And the AP and NYT are willingly falling for it.

    People being prepared for Russia having the worlds first covid19 vaccine, the US will of course say it was stolen from them. Infantile politicians create infantile press to feed infantile articles to adult children. Critical thinking skills do not exist in the US population.

    vk , Jul 29 2020 17:44 utc | 2

    There's a corporativist aspect to all of this.

    The development of propagation of information/disinformation through the internet eroded the power of the old newspapers/news agencies. It's not that this or that particular website is getting more views, but that the web of communications - the the imperialistic blunders + decline of capitalism post-2008 -, as a whole, weakened what seemed to be an unshakeable trust on the MSM (the very fact that this term exists already is historical evidence of their loss of power).

    And this process manifests itself not only in loss of power, but also loss of money: this is particularly evident in the social media, where Facebook (Whatsapp + Facebook proper) and Google are beginning to siphon advertisement money from both TV and the traditional newspapers (printed press). When those traditional printed newspapers went digital, they behaved badly, by using paywalls - this marketing blunder only accelerated their decline in readership and thus further advertisement money, generating a vicious cycle for them.

    The loss of influence of public opinion for the MSM also inaugurated another very important societal shift: the middle class' loss of monopoly over opinion and formation of opinion. Historically, it was the role of the middle class to be highly educated, to go to academia (college) and, most importantly, to daily read the newspapers while eating the breakfast. The middle class was the class of the intellectuals by definition, thus served as the clerical class of the capitalist class, the priests of capitalism. With the popularization of the internet, the smartphone and social media, this sanctity was broken or, at least, begun to deteriorate. We can attest this class conflict phenomenon by studying the rise of the term "expert" as a pejorative one. In the West's case, this shift begun through the far-right side of the political spectrum, but the shift is there.

    The popularization of what was once a privilege is nothing new in capitalism. The problem here is that capitalism depends on infinite growth to merely exist (i.e. it can't survive on zero growth, it is mathematically impossible), so it has to "monetize" what still isn't monetize in order to find/create more vital space (Lebensraum - a term coined by the hyper-capitalist Nazis) for its expansion and thus survival. Hence the popularization of college education in the USA (then in Europe). Hence the popularization of daily news through the internet/social media. This process, of course, has its positives and negatives (as is the case with every dialectical process) - the fall of the MSM is one of the positives.

    So, in fact, when the likes of AP, Reuters, NYT, WaPo, Guardian, Fox, CNN spread disinformation against "alt-media", they are really just protecting their market share - the fact that it implies in suppression of freedom of speech and to mass disinformation and, ultimately, to war and destruction, is merely collateral damage of the business they operate in. They are, after all, capitalist enterprises above all.

    bevin , Jul 29 2020 18:16 utc | 3
    Excellent analysis, as always, by b. And vk's points are very pertinent too. One tiny quibble: I doubt that the Nazis coined, though they certainly popularised, the term lebensraum.
    There is an air of desperation about these campaigns against "Russian" "disinformation" massive changes are occurring, and, because they are so vast, they are moving relatively slowly.
    The old media model, now totally outdated, was the first thing to fall. Now capitalism itself is collapsing as a result of the primary contradiction that, left to itself, the marketplace will solve all problems.
    As Washington, where magical thinking is sovereign, is demonstrating, left to itself the hidden hand will bring only misery, famine, death and the Apocalypse. This was once very well understood, as a brief look at the history of the founding of the UN will show, now it is the subject of frantic denial by capitalism's priesthood who have grown to enjoy the glitter and sensuality of life in a brothel. It is a sign of their mental decay that they can do no better than to blame Russians.
    jayc , Jul 29 2020 18:23 utc | 4
    One should presume the anonymous officials responsible for this ground-breaking report (sarc) are close to the various "combatting Russian disinformation" NGOs. They are merely living up to the mission statements of their benefactors. AP and NYTimes are being unprofessional and spreading fake news by failing to reveal their sources. It's mind-numbing - the BS one must wade through.
    donkeytale , Jul 29 2020 18:42 utc | 5
    VK @ 2

    Good point however with one glaring contradiction in your thinking.

    You make valid a very criticism of capitalism yet you tend to applaud Chinese capitalist growth (although you tend to deny Chinese capitalist growth is capitalist, a feat of breathtaking magical thinking).

    The great Chinese wealth is fully 75% invested in bubblicious real estate valuations of non-commercial real estate built on a mountain of construction debt. Sound familiar?

    The irony is Chinese growth since 2008 has been goosed along entirely by the very same financialized hyper capitalist traits as US: great gobs of debt creating supply-side "growth", huge amounts of middle wealth tied to asset inflated bubbles, and of course the resulting income and wealth inequality that rivals US inequality and continues to increase over time.

    I snorted coffee out my nose when Gruff tried to totally excuse Chinese income inequality for being only slightly less than US level....how about the truth? Chinese inequality is heinous, only slightly less than the also heinous US level.

    The diseased working class in China only has an an arm and two legs hacked off while the diseased US working class is fully quadriplegic. Much, much better to be a fucked over by globalization Chinese citizen! Lmao

    psychohistorian , Jul 29 2020 19:19 utc | 6
    @ b who ended his posting with
    "
    And the AP and NYT are willingly falling for it.
    "

    Sorry b, but AP and NYT are active participants in the disinformation campaign of failing empire and are not falling for anything

    The folks that are falling for it are the American public that has lost its ability to discriminate with the fire hose volume of lies told to them on a daily basis.

    Empire is in the process of defeating itself which is the only safe way of ending the tyranny of global private finance. I commend China and Russia for having the patience and fortitude to hold the safe space for the dysfunctional social contract having private control of the lifeblood of human commerce to self destruct.

    JohnH , Jul 29 2020 19:21 utc | 7
    This is SO hilarious! The propagandists are worried about Russian virus dis-information when most dis-information has come from the US government in the person of Trump and from the CDC, which spent months discrediting the effectiveness of face masks!!!

    Theses propagandists need to get real jobs dealing with real world problems.

    JohnH , Jul 29 2020 19:21 utc | 8
    This is SO hilarious! The propagandists are worried about Russian virus dis-information when most dis-information has come from the US government in the person of Trump and from the CDC, which spent months discrediting the effectiveness of face masks!!!

    Theses propagandists need to get real jobs dealing with real world problems.

    jason , Jul 29 2020 19:25 utc | 9
    there has been no national response to coronavirus but there must be a national acceptance that this national non-response is China's fault. and any sources reporting truthfully about the US or disseminating statements easily found elsewhere, as long as they are Russian, Chinese, Venezuelan, Cuban, Iranian, etc., is pure disinformation. How brittle and weak the US is. Where's the Pericles to say to the Spartans, "enter our city and inspect our defenses"? The US is a nation of heavily-armed mice and sheep.

    btw, the China love on display around here is pretty funny. in that the Chinese government has mounted a national response to a very serious threat, China is a nation in a way that the US is not. There is no US or we would not have 50 states doing different things in response to the corona outbreak. the US is already dead. But China is a thoroughly authoritarian capitalist state. they are who they are in a dialectic competition with the US and other capitalist powers, not because of some Maoist-Confucian amalgam that inspires such wisdom in their brilliant leaders, who are just as quick to destroy their environment for capitalist gain as anyone on this planet is. The decline of the US will not make China or Russia or any "emerging" power less authoritarian or violent. au quite the contraire. They are Shylocks who will try to better instruction.

    However, none of this is of concern to people in the US, whose only concern is the Nazi spawn who've been running "the West" for much longer than the last 75 years. but it's time to kill the bitch, not let it keep screwing us and breeding.

    div> Russia's rush to have the first COVID vaccine will be viewed by the propagandists as just another evil attempt by Putin to embarrass the US. Should it prove safe and effective, you can bet that it will be banned in USA, because anything Russian is by definition bad.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-hopes-register-worlds-first-covid-19-vaccine-aug-12

    Posted by: JohnH , Jul 29 2020 19:30 utc | 10

    Russia's rush to have the first COVID vaccine will be viewed by the propagandists as just another evil attempt by Putin to embarrass the US. Should it prove safe and effective, you can bet that it will be banned in USA, because anything Russian is by definition bad.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-hopes-register-worlds-first-covid-19-vaccine-aug-12

    Posted by: JohnH | Jul 29 2020 19:30 utc | 10

    Clueless Joe , Jul 29 2020 19:46 utc | 11
    As others already said, this is a bit rich, considering that virus disinformation comes from Trump himself, both live and on Twitter, quoting genuine hacks and megalomaniac doctors, depending on the week.
    Reality check: Russians will be able to travel across the world way before Americans, for obvious healthcare reasons.
    dh , Jul 29 2020 19:50 utc | 12
    @2 I would think adblocking has a lot to do with it too. I'm always surprised that it has been allowed to continue.
    moon , Jul 29 2020 20:13 utc | 13
    Posted by: bevin | Jul 29 2020 18:16 utc | 3

    Bevin, I agree, I once had a short exchange on Mondoweiss about the term Lebensraum, it had been used in some type of marketing by my favorite Swizz supermarket. Which then, apparently caused an uproar. The term Lebensraum on its own is rather innocent. Leben (life) Raum (space), a noun compound. Context matters. And I am sure I checked it, and Micros definitively did not use it in any type of world conquering settler context. I haven't stumbled yet across a Micros supermarket anywhere outside Switzerland, ;)

    Here is link to the German Wiki entry via Google translate:
    https://tinyurl.com/Wikipedia-Lebensraum

    vk , Jul 29 2020 20:24 utc | 14
    @ Posted by: donkeytale | Jul 29 2020 18:42 utc | 5; Posted by: jason | Jul 29 2020 19:25 utc | 9

    Err... this post is not about China.

    I think you are the rabid ideologues seeing ghosts, not me.

    Perimetr , Jul 29 2020 20:34 utc | 15
    AGREE with psychohistorian @ 6

    The NTT no longer qualifies as "the paper of record". More like toilet paper if nothing better can be found.

    Perimetr , Jul 29 2020 20:35 utc | 16
    apologies, meant NYT, i.e. New York Times
    barovsky , Jul 29 2020 20:38 utc | 17
    I'm under the impression that Info Ros is a Russian government-funded, supported, backed, site, it certainly looks like it and its reportage is decidedly 'neutral'.
    donkeytale , Jul 29 2020 20:40 utc | 18
    VK @ 14

    Actually my comment illustrated the inconsistency of your critique of capitalism post-2008 but nice slide away. Two thumbs up. Way up.

    blum , Jul 29 2020 20:41 utc | 19
    This is SO hilarious! The propagandists are worried about Russian virus dis-information when most dis-information has come from the US government in the person of Trump and from the CDC, which spent months discrediting ...
    Posted by: JohnH | Jul 29 2020 19:21 utc | 8

    This is close to my overall take on matters. But I wouldn't put so much emphasis on face masks but on something along the lines of Covid is notthing but a flu. Face masks were initially discussed quite controversially everywhere.

    For Georgio Agamben too, strictly a favorite of mine, it was simply another State of Exception too. Suppressive biopolitics:
    https://www.journal-psychoanalysis.eu/coronavirus-and-philosophers/

    ************

    Were it gets interesting is here:
    A report published last month by a second, nongovernmental organization, Brussels-based EU DisinfoLab, examined links between InfoRos and One World to Russian military intelligence. The researchers identified technical clues tying their websites to Russia and identified some financial connections between InfoRos and the government.

    Gotta add that institution to my link list collection on matters.
    EU disinfo Lab
    https://www.disinfo.eu/publications/how-two-information-portals-hide-their-ties-to-the-russian-news-agency-inforos

    They have a competitor which seems Bruxelles based too, Patrick Armstrong alerted me to a while ago:
    https://euvsdisinfo.eu/
    EUvsDisinfo is the flagship project of the European External Action Service's East StratCom Task Force

    ************

    But yes, on first sight InfoRos seems to be neatly aligned with US alt-Right-Media in basic outlook. More than with the US MSM.

    And now I first have to read what has been on Andrew Korybko's mind lately. ;)

    blum , Jul 29 2020 20:42 utc | 20

    sorry didn't close html tag.
    uncle tungsten , Jul 29 2020 21:20 utc | 21
    Integrity Initiative strikes again. AP and NYT rush faithfully to print. Journalist gets an extra dime.
    Rutherford82 , Jul 29 2020 22:13 utc | 22
    Many Americans of all walks of life do not trust their own government, yet most people here seem to have faith that their media outlets are telling the truth. How do you break through to the public that has utter faith in whatever newspaper or television channel they prefer and highlight the lies in a way which gains real traction?

    I believe it takes leadership, which, for Americans, mean celebrities have to endorse the idea or it likely won't be taken seriously. This cult of celebrity is mirrored on social media platforms, where millions flock to be a part of some beautiful person's beautiful photograph or some known personalities acceptable opinion du jour.

    There is a great bond gripping the minds of American media consumers. They have trained their entire lives to worship at the cult of celebrity and this is the key to breaking the entire media landscape down for them.

    This also is the key to unlocking the voices of those who know better with regards to media lies, but keep silent out of fear.

    Will a Joe Rogan or Tucker Carlson be able to break the spell? I think it will never happen based on how Hollywood gatekeeps celebrity and based on how hopelessly apathetic most are to Julian Assange.

    Ben Barbour , Jul 29 2020 22:36 utc | 23
    Lol I write for One World. I'm an American who has never had a piece edited or been told what to write. I was allowed to write a piece about Russia where I was critical of their policy of backing the STC in Yemen (I thought it was bad to divide Yemen). No one makes anybody tow any specific line. I decided not to publish my piece on Russia and the STC in Yemen because I didn't find the topic interesting enough, but I was 100% allowed to be critical of Russia.

    If it's a GRU outfit then it's a bad one.

    Hoarsewhisperer , Jul 29 2020 23:14 utc | 24
    Lol I write for One World. I'm an American who has never had a piece edited or been told what to write.
    ...
    Posted by: Ben Barbour | Jul 29 2020 22:36 utc | 23

    Is it possible that you're just the in-house joke at OW?
    If they don't care that you'd write "tow" instead of "toe" or that you're too lazy/thoughtless to reproduce the full name of the entity for which STC is an acronym, before using the acronym, then it suggests that One World's Editorial Standards are as lax as your own :-)

    Jen , Jul 29 2020 23:29 utc | 25
    "... Two Russians who have held senior roles in Moscow's military intelligence service known as the GRU have been identified as responsible for a disinformation effort meant to reach American and Western audiences, U.S. government officials said. They spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly ..."

    Of course GRU agents always work in pairs, guided only by the mysterious telepathic powers of the Russian President and no-one or nothing else, as Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov did in Salisbury in March 2018 when they supposedly tried to assassinate or send a warning to Sergei Skripal, and as Dmitri Kovtun and Andrei Lugovoy did in London in November 2006 when they apparently put polonium in a pot of tea served to Alexander Litvinenko in full view of patrons and staff at a hotel restaurant. It's as if each agent carries only half a brain and each half is connected to its complement by the corpus callosum that is Lord Vlademort Putin's thoughts beaming oing-yoing-yoing-like through the atmosphere until they find their targets.

    And of course US government officials always speak on condition of anonymity.

    As Agence Presse News puts it:

    "... The information had previously been classified, but officials said it had been downgraded so they could more freely discuss it. Officials said they were doing so now to sound the alarm about the particular websites and to expose what they say is a clear link between the sites and Russian intelligence ..."

    So if US government officials can now freely discuss declassified news, why do they insist on being anonymous? This would be the sort of news announced at a US national press club meeting with Matt Lee in the front row asking awkward and discomfiting questions.

    norecovery , Jul 29 2020 23:35 utc | 26
    The malicious cultivation (including Gain of Function research) and implantation of this biowarfare agent (and other ones such as Swine Fever) by the U.S. Intelligence services in various places around the world (especially in China and Iran), the intentional faulty responses and deceptive statistics administered by the monopoly-controlled medical establishment, the feigned inability to provide adequate testing, care, and treatment, along with planned economic destruction as a means of restoring investor losses and control of populations through stifling of dissent, are at the heart of the deflection and projection of blame. That broadly-based subject is barely discussed in alternative media and is totally obfuscated in MSM, because the "denier-debunkers" dispute the possibility of such extreme malice existing in our institutions, in spite of previous experience with events such as 9/11 and the '08 financial crisis.
    Hoarsewhisperer , Jul 29 2020 23:48 utc | 27
    ...
    So if US government officials can now freely discuss declassified news, why do they insist on being anonymous?
    ...
    Posted by: Jen | Jul 29 2020 23:29 utc | 25

    Precisely.
    My guess is that they don't know when to quit.
    and/or
    They embrace the Mythbusters motto...
    "If a thing's worth doing, it's worth overdoing."

    Benson Barbour , Jul 29 2020 23:54 utc | 28
    "Is it possible that you're just the in-house joke at OW?
    If they don't care that you'd write "tow" instead of "toe" or that you're too lazy/thoughtless to reproduce the full name of the entity for which STC is an acronym, before using the acronym, then it suggests that One World's Editorial Standards are as lax as your own :-)"

    Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 29 2020 23:14 utc | 24

    Fair point on tow vs toe. That's why editing exists when writing articles. As for the STC part, that is common knowledge if you follow basic geopolitics. When making a post in a comment thread, should I write out "Islamic State of Iraq and Syria" before using the acronym ISIS? If I am posting in a comment thread about Iran, do I need to write out "Mujahedin-e Khalq" instead of just using MEK?

    It just displays a massive level of ignorance on your part. Nice try though.

    Hoarsewhisperer , Jul 30 2020 0:29 utc | 29
    ...
    It just displays a massive level of ignorance on your part. Nice try though.
    Posted by: Benson Barbour | Jul 29 2020 23:54 utc | 28

    Thanks. Do you realise that you've just wasted 50+ words explaining why BB didn't bother writing the 3 words that STC stands for?

    VietnamVet , Jul 30 2020 0:59 utc | 30
    Global media moguls are blaming the 1,000 American deaths per day from the Wuhan coronavirus on Donald Trump to finally get him out of the way. But they are silent on their and the Democrats complicity in the death toll due to the lack of a national public health system or the funding to pay for it.

    The USA is going to hell. A scapegoat is needed. For the media and Democrats, Russia is to blame. Anybody else rather than themselves, the true culprits. Donald Trump blames China for the pandemic if he acknowledges it at all but that is where all of Tim Cook's iPhones are made. Blaming China is globalist heresy.

    Jackrabbit , Jul 30 2020 1:03 utc | 31
    norecovery @Jul29 23:35 #26

    I think there's a reasonable case to be made that this is what has occurred.

    And, if true, it is covered up by sly suggestions that nCov-19 was man-made with hints or a smug attitude that convey the message that China created the virus. As well as a virtual black-out in Western media of Chinese suggestions that the virus may have started in USA or been planted in Wuhan.

    But then, I already stand accused of attributing magical powers of self-interested foresight and boldness to US Deep-State due to my belief that Trump was their choice to lead USA in 2016. And so I expect you're theory will receive the same derision. Yet Empires have not been shy about killing millions when it was in their interest to do so.

    In any case, I've written many times that USA/West's unwillingness to fight the virus has been dressed up as innocent mistakes. Even if the West wasn't the source of the virus they have much to answer for. Yet very few have taken note of the way that USA/West have played the pandemic to advance their interests - from lining the pockets of Big Pharma to blaming China for their own "incompetence" (a misnomer: the power-elite are very competent at advancing their interests!).

    Inconvenient Truths:


    !!
    Kay Fabe , Jul 30 2020 1:29 utc | 32
    It seems disinformation has been redefined to mean information that counters someone else's (yours) belief. We pretend to be in an Age of Reason but really, we have just replaced religious beliefs with secular beliefs. Science has been taken over by pseudoscientists that have replaced priests. The conflict of interest by the science/priests who profit from their deceptions is beyond criminal.

    To know what is the truth you just have to look at whats being censored. Nobody being censored for supporting mask mandates, claiming vaccines are safe, and not questioning the blatant data manipulation of COVID cases that anyone with an open mind and IQ of 100 , and who reads the data, definitions and studies can see through.

    It seems people on both sides of the fence have replaced their brains with their chosen ideology. Its like watching a Christian, Jew and Muslim arguing which is the best or true religion. No point in it.

    james , Jul 30 2020 1:33 utc | 33
    thanks b!

    so, lets say GRU agents are feeding russian propaganda sites... how does that compare to all the CIA-FBI agents and has been hacks working for the western msm?? seems a bit rich for the pot to be calling a kettle black, even if they are lying thru their teeth! i am sure if someone did a story on how many CIA - m16 people are presently working with the western msm, they would have a story with some legs... this shite from anonymous usa gov't officials is just that - shite..

    @ Ben, or Benson Barbour .. thanks for your comments!

    Prof K , Jul 30 2020 1:50 utc | 34
    Anyone notice that the Democrats still haven't presented any plan whatsoever to flatten the curve in the US? They are just as bad as Trump.
    Seer , Jul 30 2020 1:55 utc | 35
    Ben Barbou @ 23
    Lol I write for One World. I'm an American who has never had a piece edited or been told what to write. I was allowed to write a piece about Russia where I was critical of their policy of backing the STC in Yemen (I thought it was bad to divide Yemen). No one makes anybody tow any specific line. I decided not to publish my piece on Russia and the STC in Yemen because I didn't find the topic interesting enough, but I was 100% allowed to be critical of Russia.

    There's such a thing as self-censorship. Mainstream US news has effectively brought up folks to be this way: stay in line or become unemployed- doesn't need to be stated. Not aimed at you, but it needs to be said (und understood).

    Ben Barbour , Jul 30 2020 3:14 utc | 36
    @35 That's a very good point. I completely agree. Self-censorship and group think are two of the biggest problems in modern journalism/analysis. One World consistently publishes pro-Pakistan and pro-China articles. When I was first sending them submissions, I did a piece on US vs China in Sudan and South Sudan. I considered omitting China's culpability in escalating the conflicts, and instead focus on laying the blame squarely at the feet of the US. In the end I told the truth about both countries' imperialist escalations (to the best of my ability).

    There is a lot of incentive to self-censor at just about any outlet. It's more comfortable to fit in with a site's brand.

    In the case of the Russia-STC article, I really just found the subject matter to be thin. Russia's support of the STC is mostly just diplomatic. Not a lot to write about.

    AntiSpin , Jul 30 2020 3:55 utc | 37
    Think you can't possibly be more outraged than you already are?

    Try this --
    The Government's Weapon Against Reality Winner: COVID-19
    By John Kiriakou, Reader Supported News
    27 July 20
    https://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/64239-the-governments-weapon-against-reality-winner-covid-19

    One Too Many , Jul 30 2020 4:09 utc | 38
    Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 30 2020 0:29 utc | 29

    Google or duckduckgo "STC in Yemen". First hit, it's not that hard.

    J W , Jul 30 2020 5:39 utc | 39
    Posted by: james | Jul 30 2020 1:33 utc | 33

    Small wonder that food from Anglozionists is so bad, they love being in the kitchen but they can't stand the heat.

    ak74 , Jul 30 2020 5:40 utc | 40
    The Americans are increasingly unhinged in their spittle-flecked accusations against not only Russia, but also China, Iran, Venezuela, etc.

    It's so pathetic as to be humorous.

    Underlying the USA's Two Minutes of Hate campaigns, however, is a deeper disease that defines Americans as a nation and as a people.

    Namely, Americans have an inbred fundamentalist belief in their own Moral Superiority as the Beacon of Liberty, Land of the Free, blah, blah, blah--no matter how many nations they have bombed back to the Stone Age, invaded, colonized, regime changed, sanctioned, or economically raped in the name of Freedom and Democracy™.

    Donald Trump is half correct.

    The United States of America is truly a great nation alright--but great only in terms of its deceit, great in terms of its delusions, and great in terms of the horrors that it has inflicted on much of the world.

    Comparing America to the Nazis would be a high insult ... to Nazi Germany, as the Third Reich only lasted about 12 years, while the American Reich has unfortunately lasted well over 200 years and gotten away with its crimes against humanity by possessing what are likely the greatest propaganda machine and political deception in human history: the American Free Press and the world historic lie called "American Freedom."

    Harold Pinter in his 2005 Nobel Literature Prize speech briefly but powerfully exposes this heart of American darkness:

    "The crimes of the United States have been systematic, constant, vicious, remorseless, but very few people have actually talked about them. You have to hand it to America. It has exercised a quite clinical manipulation of power worldwide while masquerading as a force for universal good. It's a brilliant, even witty, highly successful act of hypnosis.

    I put to you that the United States is without doubt the greatest show on the road. Brutal, indifferent, scornful and ruthless it may be but it is also very clever. As a salesman it is out on its own and its most saleable commodity is self love. It's a winner."

    https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/literature/2005/pinter/25621-harold-pinter-nobel-lecture-2005/

    Blue Dotterel , Jul 30 2020 6:23 utc | 41
    And the disinformation in the USA continues.
    https://www.rt.com/usa/496578-fauci-coronavirus-eye-protection/

    "Top US immunologist Dr Anthony Fauci is now saying citizens are not "complete" in protecting themselves from the Covid-19 pandemic unless they go beyond wearing a mask and add in eye protection like goggles, too."

    More provocation from the oligarchy. Now, that masks are becoming less controversial, time to step up the provocation, division and control.

    Fauci is also behind the anti-hydroxychloroquine propaganda, as well, that even b has swallowed. This, despite it being used effectively in other countries. All of this simply because Trump supports it (ergo, it must be bad) and Big Pharma (who control Fauci,
    CDC abd WHO) can't profit significantly from its use.

    Of course vacines are still an issue:
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/kennedy-jr-warns-parents-about-danger-using-largely-untested-covid-vaccines-kids/5719566

    "During the course of the debate, Kennedy also talked about the regular vaccines most people take, from Hepatitis B to the flu shot, emphasizing that no proper testing had ever been done, which is mandatory for any other medication. Vaccines "are the only medical product that does not have to be safety-tested against a placebo," he explained."

    Kennedy said

    "it's not hypothetical that vaccines cause injury, and that injuries are not rare. The vaccine courts have paid out four billion dollars" over the past three decades, "and the threshold for getting back into a vaccine court and getting a judgment – [the Department of Health and Human Services] admits that fewer than one percent of people who are injured ever even get to court."

    So, how well has the Russian vaccine been tested? Does anyone know?


    Blue Dotterel , Jul 30 2020 6:40 utc | 42
    It is interesting how USAians are being played by the oligarchy.

    On foreign policy, the dems and reps are in basic agreement and the propaganda is to bring the masses together to hate Russia, Chaina and anyone else who the Western (US) oligarchy has targeted.

    Domestically, unity is the enemy of the oligarchy. The masses must be controlled through division and diversion, so the dems and reps play good cop, bad cop (bad and good being relative to the supporter) to ensure the masses are diverted from important oligarch issues to issues of irrelevance to the oligarchs, but easily manipulated emotionnally by the oligarchs for the beast.

    It seems so obvious, and yet, works so well.

    vato , Jul 30 2020 7:31 utc | 43
    Posted by: VietnamVet | Jul 30 2020 0:59 utc | 30

    "[...]Donald Trump blames China for the pandemic if he acknowledges it at all but that is where all of Tim Cook's iPhones are made. Blaming China is globalist heresy."


    Then why do you phrase it the "Wuhan coronavius" yourself?

    Jams O'Donnell , Jul 30 2020 7:59 utc | 44
    Posted by: ak74 | Jul 30 2020 5:40 utc | 40

    Thanks for that link.

    Mark2 , Jul 30 2020 9:32 utc | 45
    For those interested in corona virus truth,
    I am interested in the question -- - was it spread by negligence or deliberately?
    That question must be relivant to this debate on MOA.
    I ask this now becouse -- --
    Tonight on bbc 'panorama' there investigating the spread of the virus from Hospital to care homes !! I'm told there is some pretty shocking information exposed.
    Some may wish to catch that prog. Heads up.

    I just add an obversation. -- western psychopathic disinformation and projection has led to a confused public. A public deciding to disengage with politics. To the gain of the psychopaths.

    H.Schmatz , Jul 30 2020 10:41 utc | 46
    A new candidate to the demonization and disinfo operations has been added...Germany...which has been labeled "delinquent" by the POTUS...in a clear exercise of projection...

    https://www.rt.com/news/496584-germany-withdrawl-troops-gas/

    Of course, to not be insulted or labeled delinquent, you must act as these other countries enumerated by Southcom commander, to work for the US ( not your country...) and moreover pay for it....Typical mafia extortion, isn´t it?

    https://twitter.com/kopamaros/status/1285292016885215237

    uncle tungsten , Jul 30 2020 10:49 utc | 47
    norecovery #26
    That broadly-based subject is barely discussed in alternative media and is totally obfuscated in MSM, because the "denier-debunkers" dispute the possibility of such extreme malice existing in our institutions, in spite of previous experience with events such as 9/11 and the '08 financial crisis.

    YES to that and thank you for that post. That the institutions of state and private sectors are the incubators and propagators of extreme malice is axiomatic in the UKUSAI and its five eyed running dogs is beyond doubt. They attack and scorn any critic or unbeliever. They assault and pillory truth speakers and those who might question 'their narrative'.

    Then if all that fails the hunt them down and make preposterous claims about them being anti semitic of anti religion or anti their nation.

    Mendacity is the currency of the permanent state and its minions and they need to be outed and shamed and challenged at every opportunity.

    uncle tungsten , Jul 30 2020 11:00 utc | 48
    VietnamVet #30

    Wuhan coronavirus you say?

    Fort Detrick coronavirus would be on the mark and as you most likely know, you cannot trust the USA lying eyes once you have served them in their killing fields.

    Even that right wing ex special forces advocate Steve Pieczenic testifies to the fact of a deadly virus in USA in November/December plus his beloved bloggers say way earlier than that around Maryland etc. Then there is the small problem of the 'vaping' illness that generated lots of pneumonia like fatalities in June/July. And then the instant closure of Fort Detrick due to its leaking all over the place through a totally inadequate waste water treatment plant that couldn't scrub a turd let alone a virus.

    Fort Detrick Virus is closer to the reality imo.

    William Gruff , Jul 30 2020 11:00 utc | 49
    The problem with presstitutes, possibly including Ben Barbour , (disclaimer: I've never read any media products that particular individual generated) goes beyond the point made by Seer @35 . To be sure, there is no chance that a presstitute would bite the hand that feeds it, but there is more depth to the problem of why they all suck so badly, at least the ones in the US. While journalism degrees are the university equivalent of Special Education (nowadays referred to as "Exceptional Student Education" , which is very fitting for students from such an "exceptional" nation), they still prepare the future presstitute to understand that their capitalist employers have interests beyond their immediately apparent ones. That is, more important to a capitalist employer than tomorrow's sales and profits is the preservation of capitalism itself.

    But the problem is deeper still. The presstitute that is successfully employed by a capitalist enterprise will invariably be one that knows not to criticize the employer's business, the capitalist system it depends upon, and the empire that improves that employer's profitability. More importantly, that successful hireling will additionally have been brainwashed from infancy that all of these things are good and necessary aspects of the modern world that need to be ideologically defended. The prospective presstitute will be one that not only voluntarily, but eagerly serves its capitalist masters varied interests. After all, when there are plenty of whores to choose from, would you hire one that requires explicit instructions on every last thing you expect from them and just follows those instructions mechanically or the the one that puts effort into figuring out what would please you and delivers that with enthusiasm? Keeping this dynamic in mind will allow one to better understand the capitalist mass media's products.

    Steve , Jul 30 2020 11:24 utc | 50
    The contempt at which the American ruling class hold their citizens is galling. The US corporate media operates as if their targeted audience are all morons.
    moon , Jul 30 2020 11:37 utc | 51
    you cannot trust the USA lying eyes once you have served them in their killing fields. ...
    Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 30 2020 11:00 utc | 48

    that's not a good argument, uncle t. But yes I wondered to to what extent VV or good old VietnamVet has been won over to the Trump diction.

    blum , Jul 30 2020 11:39 utc | 52
    I wondered to to
    I wondered too to what extent VV seemingly has been ...
    William Gruff , Jul 30 2020 12:00 utc | 53
    Mark2 @45: "...was it [ novel coronavirus] spread by negligence or deliberately?"

    Most likely both.

    There is evidence to suggest that the virus was circulating in the US prior to it being discovered in China. While it is possible this could have been the results of testing the transmissibility of the virus, it seems more probable that it was an accidental release from Fort Detrick. This would explain the facility being shut down last year. Military facilities are never shut down simply for breaking a few rules but because those rule violations led to something unpleasant.

    An accidental release, coupled with the fact that the synthetic origin of the virus would become apparent to scientists worldwide, resulted in a need to quickly establish an alternate explanation for the virus. Since the US was losing its trade war with China, and use of a bioweapon to turn the tide was already gamed out and on the table anyway, the virus (or possibly a very similar strain that had been pre-selected for the attack) was deliberately sprayed around a market in Wuhan.

    The CDC and CIA probably thought that the virus was contained in the West and that since it was a surprise to the Chinese it would run rampant there and result in their economy shutting down and their borders being closed, decoupling China from the world. With the Chinese treating the virus as a bio attack and defeating its spread, followed by the virus rampaging through the West, the dynamic changed. Now in order for the virus to decouple China it must become endemic in the West. The Chinese must be made to close their borders in fear of becoming infected from the rest of the world. To make this backup plan a reality, and to get the economies moving again as fast as possible, some western leaders have decided to accelerate the spread in the hopes of quickly developing "herd immunity" . Taking out some retirees whom the capitalists view as a burden on the economy is just some nice icing on the cake.

    Mark2 , Jul 30 2020 12:04 utc | 54
    @ 51 & @ 52
    I'd say not ! I'm confided Vietnam Vet is doing 'balenced' Reporting ! The subject of this post. Take another look at both this post and his comment. A lesson in how to be unbiased but truthfull.
    Soooo any one got a definition of fake news.
    Mine would be Truth before personal agenda.
    oldhippie , Jul 30 2020 12:18 utc | 55
    Self censorship works well.

    Straight cash payoffs work well too.

    CIA has had total control of media for 70 years now. It was a priority when they set up shop.

    Mark2 , Jul 30 2020 12:19 utc | 56
    William Gruff @ 53
    I think yours is just about the most clear and concise summary of this whole virus catastrophe that I have seen so far. And that's a hell of a statement !
    Unrelated I wonder what would have happened if the Chinese whistle blower had not blown the whistle ? Now that's one to ponder ? As bad as this all is world wide, where would be right now ? Dose not bare thinking about.
    vig , Jul 30 2020 12:21 utc | 57
    Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 30 2020 12:04 utc | 54

    What are you trying to tell me? Anyone that does not acknowledge the virus originated in China and that China didn't respond as fast as it could have? And more polemically: there is some kind of African Marxist heading WHO who obfuscated China's late information to the WHO?

    There is a dot of truth in everything. There is also a dot of truth in the fact that Trump or his relevant admin was informed early enough.

    Mark2 , Jul 30 2020 12:27 utc | 58
    Big @ 57
    What ?
    jadan , Jul 30 2020 12:35 utc | 59
    We've been acquainted with this virus about 7 months or so and it is difficult to separate reliable information from disinformation. We know very little about it, eg, we don't know whether those who recover can be reinfected. Is it like the common cold, against which there is no immunity? We just have to assume that the Trump virus has infected every level of the administration so that there is ignorance and unadulterated stupidity from the lowest level in the ministry of propaganda to the secretary of state and, of course, the president himself currently celebrating the wisdom of an animist/Christian hybrid doctor from Africa spewing the foulest disinformation one can imagine.
    vig , Jul 30 2020 12:46 utc | 60
    Big @ 57
    What ?
    Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 30 2020 12:27 utc | 58

    babbling: look if this is the good old VV from SST, I wouldn't want to nail him on the usage of Wuhan virus. But on the larger content of his comment, I am wondering.

    Full discovery: I entered the US conspiracy universe shortly after 9/11. I'll probably never forget there was this one commenter that completely out of then current preoccupations within the diverse theories, you recall?, suggested that the Chinese were approaching via the Southern borders.

    There surely should be a way how the US and Russia

    vig , Jul 30 2020 12:48 utc | 61
    There surely should be a way how the US and Russia

    There surely should be a way how the US and Russia repartition their claims. After all historically the Russian had some type of partly real Yellow threat too ... :)

    Mark2 , Jul 30 2020 12:54 utc | 62
    Vig @ 60
    Thanks for clearing that up. Cheers
    Hannibal , Jul 30 2020 12:56 utc | 63
    Can probably trace this back to the "integrity initiative" and/ or the Atlantic Council. That's a web worth untangling with transparency.

    Spot on James @ 33

    One Too Many , Jul 30 2020 13:05 utc | 64
    Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 30 2020 12:19 utc | 56

    Except the "whistle blower" was not a whistle blower since local, provincial, and nations institutions were already advised or in the process of being advised. Dr Wenliang posted his information in a private chatroom with other medical professionals on December 30th. Timeline of events:

    Dec 27 -- Dr. Zhang Jixian, director of the respiratory and critical care medicine department of Hubei Provincial Hospital, files a report to the hospital stating that an unknown pneumonia has developed in three patients and they are not responding to influenza treatment.

    Dec 29 -- Hubei Provincial Hospital convened a panel of 10 experts to discuss the now seven cases. Their conclusion that the situation was extraordinary, plus information of two similar cases in other hospitals, prompted the hospital to report directly to the municipal and provincial health authorities.

    Dec 30 -- The Wuhan Municipal Health Commission issued an urgent notification to medical institutions under its jurisdiction, ordering efforts to appropriately treat patients with pneumonia of unknown cause.

    Dec 31 -- The National Health Commission (NHC) made arrangements in the wee hours, sending a working group and an expert team to Wuhan to guide epidemic response and conduct on-site investigations. The Wuhan Municipal Health Commission released a briefing on its website about the pneumonia outbreak in the city, confirming 27 cases and telling the public not to go to enclosed public places or gather. It suggested wearing face masks when going out. The Wuhan Municipal Health Commission released briefings on the pneumonia outbreak in accordance with the law. WHO's Country Office in the PRC relayed the information to the WHO Western Pacific Regional Office, then to the international level headquarters.

    Jan 1 -- The NHC set up a leading group to determine the emergency response to the epidemic. The group convened meetings on a daily basis since then.

    Jan 2 -- The Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention (China CDC) and the Chinese Academy of Medical Sciences (CAMS) received the first batch of samples of four patients from Hubei Province and began pathogen identification. The NHC came up with a set of guidelines on early discovery, early diagnosis and early quarantine for the prevention and control of the viral pneumonia of unknown cause.

    Jan 3 -- Dr. Wenliang signs a statement not to post unsubstantiated rumors.

    There's no "whistle blowing" as the information of the cases were already going up the chain of command. These are facts that can be sourced by multiple media outlets. I can't believe this fallacy keeps floating and doesn't flush.

    Lurk , Jul 30 2020 13:52 utc | 65
    In retrospective analyses, SARS-COV-2 was found in routinely collected samples of European sewage water dating back to at least december 2019. A french doctor reviewed archived medical samples and imagery from patients who had fallen mysteriously ill in the latter half of 2019 and also found that some had been early cases of COVID-19.

    The real coronavirus whistle-blower is a doctor in Washington state USA who tested for the virus in Januari 2020 and was silenced by USA medical and federal authorities.

    I am afraid that there will never be a sincere investigation into the real cause of the "vaping disease" that caused many deaths from sudden respiratory failure in the USA in the summer of 2019. Tell me again when Ft. Detrick labs was shut down exactly?

    Lurk , Jul 30 2020 13:59 utc | 66
    @ Hannibal | Jul 30 2020 12:56 utc | 63

    Don't forget to mention Mark2's employer, the 77th brigade . We're in an information war , after all.

    Piotr Berman , Jul 30 2020 14:00 utc | 67
    What are you trying to tell me? Anyone that does not acknowledge the virus originated in China and that China didn't respond as fast as it could have? And more polemically: there is some kind of African Marxist heading WHO who obfuscated China's late information to the WHO?

    There is a dot of truth in everything. There is also a dot of truth in the fact that Trump or his relevant admin was informed early enough.

    Posted by: vig | Jul 30 2020 12:21 utc | 57

    vig repeats widely spread arguments, basically, the "official propaganda" from offices related to an orange-American (excessive time spend on golf courses changes skin color, perhaps in combination with sunscreen, without sunscreen you would get a "redneck look").

    1. Origin: somewhat debatable, but any virus has to originate somewhere. Every country was on receiving end of pathogens from other countries.

    2. China did not respond as fast as it could have. Now, how fast and effective was USA? One has to note that clusters of fatal lung infections happen regularly, but this is because of mutations that increase impact on health, while separate mutations increase (or decrease) the transmission. Draconian measures are necessary if you get both, but you do not lock cities, provinces, introduce massive quarantine programs until you know that they are necessary. For the same reasons, the response in Western Europe and USA was not as fast as it could have.

    3. "African Marxist heading WHO mislead poor naive Americans". What is the budget of American intelligence, and American disease control? Do they collect information, do they have experts? In particular, American authorities knew pretty much what Chinese authorities knew, and they had benefit of several weeks of extra time to devise wise strategy. Giving this benefit to people with limited mental capacities has a limited value. Perhaps China is at fault here too, Pompeo reported about pernicious impact of Chinese Communist Party on PPT meeting in USA, that could have deleterious impact on education and thus on mental capacities.

    Pompeo himself may be a victim. He excelled as a West Point student, but if the content of education was crappy, diligence impacted his brain deeper and not for the better. But nobody attempts to blame CCP for that.

    vk , Jul 30 2020 14:17 utc | 68
    @ Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 30 2020 12:19 utc | 56

    It would've changed nothing.

    For starters, the "whistleblower" wasn't a whistleblower at all: he thought he had found a resurgence of SARS, not a new pandemic. Secondly, the head of respiratory diseases at the region already was investigating some cases of a "mysterious pneumonia" since end of November or mid-December - so the investigation already was well under way.

    Discovering a new disease is not magic: a doctor cannot simply go the market, see a random person, and claim he/she discovered a new virus. Doctors are not gods: they can only diagnose the patients under their care.

    The point of discord that the Western MSM capitalized upon was the fact that some random officer from the local police intercepted his private social media and made him sign a letter of reprimand. No Law is ever perfect, and these episodes of false triggers do happen even in Western Democracies.

    Little known fact (one which the Western MSM censored) is that the so-called "whistleblower" was a member of the CCP. After knowing the details of the situation (including that the disease was already being investigated), he quickly realized the state-of-the-art and went to the frontlines to fight the pandemic - as any member of the CCP would've done. Revolutionary communist parties have this tradition that comes since the Bolshevik Party, where the leadership always leads by example. The Bolsheviks themselves lost the vast majority of their elite in the Civil War, as they always led in the front (vanguard). Fidel Castro himself led his army in the front when the invasion of the Bay of Pigs begun. So, it is not surprising this doctor, once having the facts on the field, quickly shut up and went to the frontline as a vanguard soldier.

    After the whole truth came to the forefront, the Western MSM quickly begun to meltdown over the fake story they fantasized, and the Taiwanese MSM invented a story of some another whistleblower who had discovered the virus "at the end of November". That one never truly gained traction, and silently died out.

    But all of this is moot point for the West, because Trump and the other European liberal powers refused to believe either that the virus was real or that it could reach them until February the next year.

    But all of this

    Den lille abe , Jul 30 2020 14:17 utc | 69
    I think it is OK that b nails the US makes yet another display of stupidity.... on the other hand I presume that b also has other things to care about, I mean exposing the US as a "fake" nation is a full time job!
    Americans have at least the last 50 years been known for fails, even Churchill commented something like "the Americans will fail numerous times, but eventually they will get it right" well that was back then! Today it is fail upon fail. I know that there must be bright people over there, but it is my sincere impression, that they are a very small minority. Maybe their schooling system has all gone bonkers ?
    "3% of all Americans believe the Earth is flat! WTF!!!
    America is on a steep slope downward.
    Den lille abe , Jul 30 2020 14:31 utc | 70
    I am personally not worried much about Covid 19, although I am 63 and live in Sweden, the "black Sheep" in Europe because of our rather lax restrictions, the Swedes themselves are rather good at keeping distance and using common sense.
    I am much more worried that the American culture of ignorance, brain farts, stupidity and low IQ media will infest my country further and maybe completely ruin it.
    Especially by the junk that comes out of Hollywood, pure Sh*t served nice and hot!
    I am happy I know, I have not got to endure further 30 years of this.
    Prof K , Jul 30 2020 14:52 utc | 71
    A few months ago, b posted a link to a Canadian vlogger who lives in Nanning, China. The vlogger took us on a tour of a so called Wet Market. Here, the vlogger takes us to another Wet Market tour. He does a good job dispelling racist stereotypes and showing real life in China.

    https://youtu.be/ppIbzX8JfEw

    Mark2 , Jul 30 2020 14:56 utc | 72
    One to many @ 64
    Thanks ! So there was a group of whistle blowers then. It's down to definitions again. Perhaps mine is a little more loose. But it's of no concern.
    For the sake of this excellent thread, perhaps we could all be a little less pedantic. VK ?
    cirsium , Jul 30 2020 15:19 utc | 73
    @uncle tungsten, 11:00 Jul 30

    Also relevant - Crimson Contagion - the pandemic simulation run by the US government from January to August 2019 and was based on an infectious coronavirus coming from a food market in China

    PleaseBeleafMe , Jul 30 2020 15:23 utc | 74
    @Dla 69,70

    Everywhere u go in this world you'll find some version or an "murican" in every country. Even a country like modern first world Switzerland has its "mountain folk".
    In my personal experience with Americans I'm most often pleasantly surprised at their levels of sophistication and introspection over their American experiences. An enjoyable and as pleasant a people as anywhere. This may be clouded by mostly meeting these people outside of the US where unless tourists are well educated and travelled and by default more aware of a negative view of their homeland that exists outside of the US. For some reason most of these Americans I've met abroad are decidedly non republican in nature and are mostly
    from California and North and North Eastern States. Fellow future Canadians I would call them.
    The other side of the coin is when I've travelled to the states. Texas, Florida, Arizona. Whew! What a difference. I've learned that talking politics is impossible and the natives are almost entirely ignorant of anything outside their bubble. Outside of talking points there is no information behind their arguments. Their knowledge of the outside world is incredibly lacking and the view of the US in it is overwhelmingly positive.
    It isn't Americans its America and its leadership, its influences, systems and all the other shit that make the US the salad it is. The people r redeemable.

    William Gruff , Jul 30 2020 15:34 utc | 75
    Calling the professionals doing their jobs in China "whistleblowers" is inaccurate. "Whistleblower" implies revealing information that others are trying to hide. In this case the suggestion is that the Chinese government was trying to hide the outbreak. This is nonsense as the Chinese government was unaware of an outbreak until after the relevant professionals had determined that there was an outbreak. There is no way the Chinese government could have known about an outbreak before the outbreak was identified by the professionals tasked with identifying outbreaks. The only ones who knew about the outbreak before the outbreak occurred were the US "intelligence community" .

    [Jul 30, 2020] What Will Happen to Neoliberalism after the COVID-19 Crisis -- Will It Survive by Prof. Joseph H. Chung

    Notable quotes:
    "... Some of the neoliberal countries may be at the stage of the collusion; some of them may find themselves at the stage of oligarchy; some of them may be at the stage of corruption culture. ..."
    "... In Japan, since 1957, there were twenty-one prime ministers of whom 75% were one-year or two-year prime ministers despite the four-year term of prime ministers. The short life span of Japanese prime ministers is essentially due to the short term interest pursued by the corrupted golden triangle composed of big business, bureaucrats and politicians. Unless, Japan uproots the corruption culture, it will be difficult to save the Japanese economy from perpetual stagnation. ..."
    "... In the U.S. the big companies are spending a year no less than $2.6 billion lobbying money for the promotion of their interests, while the Congress spends $ 2.9 billion and the Senate, $860 million for their respective annual operation. Some of the big companies deploy as many as 100 lobbyists. ..."
    "... It is unbelievable that the amount of lobbying is as much as 70% of the annual budget of the whole legislative of the U.S. ..."
    "... Under such lobbying system, each group should deploy lobbyists to promote their interests. The immigrants, the native Indians, the Afro Americans, the alienated white people and other marginal groups cannot afford lobbyists and they are often excluded from fair treatment in the process of making laws and policies ..."
    "... In the case of the U.S. its rank increased from 18 in 2016 to 22 in 2019. Thus in three years, the degree of corruption increase by 22.2% ..."
    "... The U.S. is the richest country in the world, but it is also a country where income inequality is the most pronounced. I will come back to this issue in the next section. In relation to the corona virus crisis, income inequality means an army of those who are most likely to be infected and who are unable to follow CDC guidelines of testing, self quarantine and social distancing. Finally, the privatization of public health services has made the whole country unprepared for the onslaught of the virus. ..."
    "... The experience of Japan shows how this can happen. The economic depression after the bubble burst of 1989, Japan had to endure 30-year deflation. The government of Japan has flooded the country with money to restore the economy, but the money was used for the bail-out of big corporations neglecting the healthy development of the SMEs and impoverishing the ordinary Japanese people. South Korea could have experienced the Japanese-type economic stagnation, if the conservative government ruled the country ten more years. ..."
    "... The neoliberal pro-big company policy of Washington has greatly depleted consumer demand and SMEs even before the onslaught of the coronavirus. ..."
    "... Fourth, the U.S. economy is shaken up so much that the neoliberal regime will not able to recover the economy. Thus, the survival of neo-liberalism looks uncertain. But, if the coronavirus crisis continues and destroys SMEs and if only the big corporations survive owing to bailout money, neo-liberalism may survive and we may end up with authoritarian governance ruled by the business-politics oligarchy. ..."
    Jul 27, 2020 | www.globalresearch.ca

    For the last forty years, neo-liberalism has dominated economic thinking and the formulation of economic policies Worldwide.

    But the corona virus crisis has exposed, in a dramatic way, its internal contradictions, its incapacity to deal with the corona crisis and its incompetence to restore the real economy ruined by the crisis.

    In this article, we will focus on the relationship between Neoliberalism and the Corona Crisis:

    To save democracy and the global economy, We need a new economic model which supports the future of humanity, which sustains human livelihood Worldwide.

    1. Neoliberalism and the initial Outbreak of the Corona Virus

    The most important part of neoliberalism is the relation -often of a corrupt nature- between the government and large corporations. By corruption, we mean illegal or immoral human activities designed to maximize profit at the expense of people's welfare. In this relation, the government may not be able to control and govern the large corporations. In fact, in the present context, the corporations govern and oversee national governments.

    Hence, when the corona virus broke out, it was difficult for the government to take immediate actions to control the virus break-out to save human lives; It was quite possible that the price of stocks and large corporations' profit had the priority.

    The theory known as neoliberalism distinguishes itself from the old liberalism prevailing before the Great Depression.

    It became widely accepted mainly because of its adoption, in the 1970s and 1980s, by Ronald Reagan , president of the U.S. and Margaret Thatcher , prime minister of Great Britain as an economic policy agenda applied nationally and internationally.

    The justification of neoliberalism is the belief that the best way to ensure economic growth is to encourage "supply activities" of private sector enterprises.

    Now, the proponents of neoliberalism argue that public goods (including health and education) can be produced with greater efficiency by private companies than by the State. Therefore, "it is better" to let the private enterprises produce public goods.

    In other words, the production of public goods should be "privatized". Neoliberals put profit as the best measure of efficiency and success. And profit can be sustained with government support. In turn, the private companies' policy is that of reducing the labour costs of production.

    Government assistance includes reduction of corporate taxes, subsidies and anti-labour policies such as the prohibition of labour unionization and the abolition of the minimum wage.

    Reduction of labour cost can be obtained by the automation of the production of goods

    Under such circumstances, close cooperation between the government and the private corporations is inevitable; even it may be necessary.

    But, such cooperation is bound to lead to government-business collusion in which the business receives legal and illegal government support in exchange of illicit money such as kick-backs and bribes given to influential politicians and the people close to the power.

    As the collusion becomes wider and deeper, an oligarchy is formed; it is composed of corporations, politicians and civil servants. This oligarchy's raison d'être is to make money even at the expense of the interests of the people.

    Now, in order to protect its vested interests, the oligarchy expands its network and creates tight-knit political community which shares the wealth and privileges obtained.

    In this way, the government-business cooperation can be evolved by stage to give birth to the corruption culture.

    Some of the neoliberal countries may be at the stage of the collusion; some of them may find themselves at the stage of oligarchy; some of them may be at the stage of corruption culture.

    South Korea

    When the progressive government of Moon Jae-in took over power in 2017, South Korea under the 60-year neo-liberal rule by the conservatives was at the stage of corruption culture.

    The progressive government of Moon Jae-in has declared a total war against the corruption culture, but it is a very long way to go before eliminating corruption.

    In South Korea, of six presidents of the conservative government, four presidents were or are in prison for corruption and abuse of power. This shows how deeply the corruption has penetrated into the fabrics of the Korea society

    In Japan, since 1957, there were twenty-one prime ministers of whom 75% were one-year or two-year prime ministers despite the four-year term of prime ministers. The short life span of Japanese prime ministers is essentially due to the short term interest pursued by the corrupted golden triangle composed of big business, bureaucrats and politicians. Unless, Japan uproots the corruption culture, it will be difficult to save the Japanese economy from perpetual stagnation.

    Lobbying and "Corruption Culture"

    Many of the developed countries in the West are also the victims of corruption culture. In the U.K. the City (London's Wall Street) is the global center of money laundry.

    In the U.S. the big companies are spending a year no less than $2.6 billion lobbying money for the promotion of their interests, while the Congress spends $ 2.9 billion and the Senate, $860 million for their respective annual operation. Some of the big companies deploy as many as 100 lobbyists.

    It is unbelievable that the amount of lobbying is as much as 70% of the annual budget of the whole legislative of the U.S.

    True, in the U.S., lobbying is not illegal, but it may not be morally justified. It is a system where the law makers give privileges to those who spend more money, which can be considered as bribes

    Under such lobbying system, each group should deploy lobbyists to promote their interests. The immigrants, the native Indians, the Afro Americans, the alienated white people and other marginal groups cannot afford lobbyists and they are often excluded from fair treatment in the process of making laws and policies

    Some of the developed European countries are also very corrupted. The international Transparency Index rank, in 2019, was 23 for France, 30 for Spain and 51 for Italy.

    In the case of the U.S. its rank increased from 18 in 2016 to 22 in 2019. Thus in three years, the degree of corruption increase by 22.2%

    What is alarming is that, in the corruption culture, national policies are liable to be dictated by big businesses.

    In South Korea, under the conservative government, it was suspected that the national policies were determined by the Chaebols (large industrial conglomerates), not by the government.

    As matter of fact, during the MERS crisis in 2015, the anti-virus policy was dictated by the Samsung Group. In order to save its profit, Samsung Hospital in Seoul hid the infected so that the number of non-MERS patients would not decrease.

    In Japan, the Abe government made the declaration of public health emergency as late as April 6, 2020 despite the fact that the infections were detected as early as January, 2020.

    This decision was, most likely, dictated by Keiretsu members (grouping of large enterprises) in order to save investments in the July Olympics. Nobody knows how many Japanese had been infected for more than three months.

    Similarly, Trump was well aware of the sure propagation of the virus right form January, but he waited until March 13, 2020 before he declared the state of effective public health emergency. The obvious reason was the possible fear of free fall of stock price and the possible loss of big companies' profits.

    The interesting question is: "The delayed declaration of public health emergency, was it Trump's decision or that of his corporate friends?" It doesn't matter whose decision it was, because the government under neoliberal system is controlled the big businesses.

    So, as in Japan, Italy, Spain, France and especially, the U.K, Trump lost the golden time to save human lives to keep profit of enterprises.

    God knows how many American lives were sacrificed to save stock price and company profit!

    Thus, the neoliberal governments have lost the golden chance to prevent the initial outbreak of the dreadful virus.

    2. Neo-liberalism and the Propagation of Corona-Virus

    We saw that the initial outbreak of the virus was not properly controlled leading to the loss to golden time of saving human lives, most likely because of the priority given to business and political interests.

    The initial outbreak of the virus was transformed into never-ending propagation and, even now, in many states in the U.S. the wave of the virus is getting higher and wider.

    This tragic reality can be explained by four factors:

    1. people's mistrust in the government,
    2. unbounded competition,
    3. inequitable income distribution,
    4. the absence of public health system.

    These four factors (above) are all the legacies of neoliberalism.

    The people know well that the corrupted neoliberal government's concern is not the welfare of the people but the interest of a few powerful and the rich. The inevitable outcome is the loss of people's trust in the unreliable government.

    This is demonstrated by Trump's indecision, his efforts of ignoring the warning of the professionals, his fabricates stories and above all, his perception of who should be given the right to receive life-saving medical care at the hospital.

    Under such circumstances, Americans do not trust the government directives and guidelines, allegedly implemented to protect people from the virus.

    The guideline of the CDC (Centers for Disease Control) for self quarantine, social distancing and wearing face masks has little effect. There is another product of neoliberalism which is troublesome. I mean its credo of unbounded competition.

    It is true that competition promotes efficiency and better quality of products. However, as competition continues, the number of winners decreases, while that of losers rises. The economy ends up being ruled by a handful of powerful winners. This leads to the segregation of losers and leads to the discrimination of people by income level, religion, race and colour of skin.

    In the present context, largely as a result of government policy, there is little to no social solidarity; each individual has to solve his or her own problems. I was sad when I saw on TV a young lady in California saying:

    "To be killed by the COVID-19 or starve to death is the same to me. I open my shop to eat!"

    This shows how American citizens are left alone to fight the coronavirus. Furthermore, neoliberalism has another unhappy legacy; it is the widening and deepening income inequality.

    The U.S. is the richest country in the world, but it is also a country where income inequality is the most pronounced. I will come back to this issue in the next section. In relation to the corona virus crisis, income inequality means an army of those who are most likely to be infected and who are unable to follow CDC guidelines of testing, self quarantine and social distancing. Finally, the privatization of public health services has made the whole country unprepared for the onslaught of the virus.

    In fact, in the U.S. there is no public health system. For three months after the first breakout of the virus, the country lacked everything needed to fight the virus.

    Thus, neoliberalism has made the U.S not only to lose the golden time to prevent the initial breakout but also it has let the wave of virus to continue. Nobody knows when it will calm down. As a matter of fact, on July 4, there were 2.9 million infected and 132,000 deaths; this gives a death rate of 4.6%. Given U.S. population of 328 million, we have 402.44 deaths per million inhabitants which is one of highest among the developed countries. The trouble is that the wave of virus is still going higher and wider. On July 4, the confirmed cases increased by 50% in two weeks in 12 states and increased 10% to 50% in 22 states.

    3. Neo-liberalism and the very Foundation of the U.S. Economy

    The message of this section is this. The foundation of the American economy is the purchasing power of the consumers and the job creation by small-and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs). The consumer demand is 70% of the GDP, the SMEs create 66% of jobs. Unfortunately, because of neoliberalism, the consumers have become very poorer and the SMEs have been neglected in the pro-big-company government policies. The COVID-19 has destroyed the SMEs and impoverished the consumers. Nobody would deny the contribution of neo-liberalism to globalization of finance, the creation of the global value chain and, especially the free trade agreement.

    All these activities have allowed GDP to grow in developed countries and some of new industrial countries. However, the wealth created by the growth of GDP has gone to countries already developed, some developing countries and a small number of multinational enterprises (MNE). The rich produced by GDP growth has led to the concentration of wealth in the hands of a few privileged. What is more serious is this. If the skewed income distribution in favour of a decreasing number of people continues for long, the GDP will stop growing and decades-long deflation is quite possible, as it has happened in Japan.

    According to the OECD data, in the period, 1975-2011, the GDP share of labour income in OECD countries fell by 13.8% from 65% to 56%. In the case of the U.S., in the same period, 1970-2014, it fell by 11%. The falling labour-income share is necessarily translated into unequal household income distribution. There are two popular ways of measuring income distribution: the decile ratio and the Gini coefficient.

    The decile ratio is obtained by dividing the income earned by the top 10% income earners by the income earned by the bottom 10% income earners . The decile ratio in 2019 was 18.5 in the U.S. as compared to 5.6 in Finland. The decile ratio of the U.S. was the highest among the developed countries. Thus, in the U.S. the top 10 % has an income 19 times more than the bottom 10%, while, in Finland, the corresponding ratio is only 6 times. This shows how serious the income gap is in the country of Uncle Sam.

    The Gini coefficient varies from zero to 100. As the value of the Gini increases, the income distribution becomes favourable to the high-income households. Conversely, as the value of the Gini decreases, the income distribution becomes favourable to low-income households. There are two types of Gini: the gross Gini and the net Gini. The former refers to Gini before taxes and transfer payment, while the latter refers to Gini after taxes and transfer payment. The difference between the gross and the net Gini shows the government efforts to improve the equality and fairness of income distribution The gross U.S.- Gini coefficient in 2019 was 48.6, one of the highest among the developed countries.

    Its net Gini was 38.0 so that the difference between the gross and the net Gini was 12.3%. In other words, the U.S. income distribution improved only by 12.3% by government efforts as against, for example, an improvement of 42.9% in the case of Germany, where the gross Gini was 49.9 while the net Gini was 28.5 The net Gini of the U.S. was the highest among the developed countries. The implication is clear. The income distribution in the U.S. was the most unequal. To make the matter worse, the government's effort to improve the unequal income distribution was the poorest among the developed countries. There are countless signs of unfortunate impacts of the inequitable income distribution in the country called the U.S. which Koreans used to admire describing it as "mi-gook- 美國미국 – Beautiful Country". Now, one wonders if it is still a "mi-gook".

    The following data indicates the seriousness of poverty in the U.S. (data below prior to the Coronavirus crisis).

    These data give us an idea on how so many people have to suffer from poverty in a country where per capita GDP is $65,000 (2019 estimate), the richest country in the world. Most of the Americans work for small- and medium-sized companies (SMEs). In the U.S., there are 30 million SMEs. They create 66% of jobs in the private sector. The SMEs are more severely hit than big companies by the coronavirus.

    In fact, 66% of SMEs are adversely affected by the virus against 40% for big firms. As much as 20% of SMEs may be shut down for good within three months, because of the virus. Under the forty years of neoliberal pro-big corporation policies, available financial resources and the best human resources have been allocated to big firms at the expense of the development of SMEs.

    The most damaging by-product of neoliberalism is no doubt the widening and deepening unequal income distribution for the benefit of the big corporations and the uprooting of SMEs. This trend means the shrinking domestic demand and the disappearance of jobs for ordinary people.

    The destruction of the domestic market caused by the shrinking consumer demand and the disappearance of SMEs can mean the uprooting of the very foundation of the economy.

    The experience of Japan shows how this can happen. The economic depression after the bubble burst of 1989, Japan had to endure 30-year deflation. The government of Japan has flooded the country with money to restore the economy, but the money was used for the bail-out of big corporations neglecting the healthy development of the SMEs and impoverishing the ordinary Japanese people. South Korea could have experienced the Japanese-type economic stagnation, if the conservative government ruled the country ten more years.

    The neoliberal pro-big company policy of Washington has greatly depleted consumer demand and SMEs even before the onslaught of the coronavirus. But, the COVID-19 has given a coup de grâce to consumer demand and SMEs To better understand the issue, let us go back to the ABC of economics. Looking at the national economy from the demand side, the economy consists of private consumer demand (C), the private investment demand (I), the government demand (G) and Foreign demand represented by exports of domestic products (X) minus domestic demand for imported foreign products (M).

    GDP=C + I + G + (X-M)

    In 2019, the consumer expenditure (C) in the U.S. was 70% of GDP, whereas the government's spending (G) was 17%. The investments demand (I) was 18%. The net exports demand (X-M) was -5%.

    In 2019 the composition of Canadian GDP was: C=57%; I=23 %; G=21 %; X-M=-1%.

    Thus, we see that the U.S. economy heavily depends on the private domestic consumption, which represents as much as 70% of GDP compared to 57% in Canada. The government's contribution to the national demand is 17% as against 21% in Canada. In the U.S. a small government is a virtue according to neoliberals. In the U.S. the private investments account for only 18% of GDP as compared to as much as 23% in Canada. In the U.S., off-shoring of manufacturing jobs and the global value chain under neo-liberalism have decreased the need for business investments at home. It is obvious then that to save the American economy, we have to boost the consumers' income. But, the consumer income comes mainly from SMEs. We must remember that the SMEs create 66% of all jobs in the U.S. Therefore, if consumer demand falls and if SMEs do not create jobs, the US economy may have to face the same destiny as the Japanese economy. This is happening in the U.S. The corona virus crisis is destroying SMEs and taking away the income of the people.

    The coronavirus crisis is about to demolish the very foundation of the American economy.

    4. Corona Virus Crisis and the Survival of Neoliberalism

    The interesting question is this. Will neo-liberalism as economic system survive the corona virus crisis in the U.S.?

    There are at least four indications suggesting that it will not survive.

    1. First, to overcome major crisis such as the corona virus invasion, we need strong central government and people-loving leader. One of the reasons for the successful anti-virus policy in South Korea, Taiwan and Singapore was the strong central government's role of determining and coordinating the anti-virus policies. As we saw, the gospel of neo-liberalism is the minimization of the central government's role. Having little role in economic policies, the U.S. federal government has proved itself as the most incompetent entity to fight the crisis. It is more than possible that the U.S. and all the neoliberal countries will try to get away from the traditional neoliberal governance in which the government is almost a simple errand boy of big business.
    2. Second, the people's trust in the neoliberal leaders has fallen on the ground. It will be difficult for the neoliberal leaders to be able to lead the country in the post-corona virus era.
    3. Third, the corona virus crisis has made the people aware of the abuse of power by the big companies; the people now know that these companies are interested only in making money. So, it may be more difficult for them to exploit the people in the era of post-COVID-19.
    4. Fourth, the U.S. economy is shaken up so much that the neoliberal regime will not able to recover the economy. Thus, the survival of neo-liberalism looks uncertain. But, if the coronavirus crisis continues and destroys SMEs and if only the big corporations survive owing to bailout money, neo-liberalism may survive and we may end up with authoritarian governance ruled by the business-politics oligarchy.

    5. Search for a New Economic Regime: Just-Liberalism

    One thing which the corona-virus crisis has demonstrated is the fact that the American neo-liberalism has failed as sustainable regime capable of stopping the virus crisis, restore the economy and save the democracy. Hence, we have to look for a new regime capable of saving the U.S. economy and democracy. We would call this new regime as "Just-liberalism " mission of which is the sustainable economic development and, at the same time, the just distribution of the benefits of economic development. Before we get into the discussion of the main feature of the new regime, there is one thing we should discuss. It is the popular perception of large corporation. Many believe that they make GDP grow and create jobs. It is also the popular view that the success of these large corporations is due to the innovative managing skills of their founders or their CEOs. Therefore, they deserve annual salary of millions of dollars. This is the popular perception of Chaebols in South Korea.

    But, a great part of Chaebols income is attributable to the public goods such as national defence, police protection, social infrastructures, the education system, enormous sacrifice of workers and, especially tax allowances, subsidies and privileges. In other words, a great part of the Chaebols' income belongs to the society, not the Chaebols. Many believe that the Chaebols create jobs, but, in reality, they crate less than 10% of jobs in Korea. We may say the same thing about large corporations in the U.S. In other words, much of the company's income is due to public goods. Hence, the company should equitably share its income with the rest of the society. But do they?

    The high ranking managers get astronomical salaries; some of them are hiding billions of dollars in tax haven islands.

    We ask. Are large corporations sharing equitably their income with the society? Are the corporate tax allowances they get too much? Is the wage they pay too low? Is CEO's income is too high?

    It is difficult to answer these questions.

    But we should throw away the mysticism surrounding the merits of large corporations; we should closely watch them so that they do not misuse their power and wealth to dictate national policies for their own benefit at the expense of the welfare of the people. The new regime, just-liberalism, should have the following eight features.

    First, we need a strong government which is autonomous from big businesses; there should be no business-politics collusion; there should be no self-interest oligarchy of corruption.

    Second, it is the time we should reconsider the notion of human right violation. There are several types of human right violation in developed countries including the U.S. For example, the racial discrimination, the inequality before the law, the violation of the right of social security and the violation of the right of social service are some cases of violation of human rights defined by the U.N. The Western media have been criticizing human right violation in "non-democratic countries", but, in the future, they should pay more attention to human right violation in "democratic countries."

    Third, the criterion of successful economy should not be limited to the GDP growth; the equitable distribution of the benefits of GDP growth should also be a criterion; proper balance between the growth and the distribution of growth fruits should be maintained.

    Fourth, market should not be governed by "efficiency" alone; it must be also "equitable". Efficiency may lead to the concentration of resources and power in the hands of the few at the expense of social benefit; it must be also equitable. As an example, we may refer to the Chaebols (big Korean industrial conglomerates) which kill the traditional village markets which provide livelihood to a great number of poor people. The Chaebols may make the market efficient but not equitable. The Korean government has limited Chaebols' penetration into these markets to make them more equitable.

    Fifth, we need a partial direct democracy. The legislative translates people's wish into laws and the executive makes policies on the basis of laws. But, in reality, the legislative and the executive may pass laws and policies for the benefit of big companies or specific group of individuals and institutions close to the power. Therefore, it is important to provide a mechanism through which the people – the real master of the country – should be allowed to intervene all times. In South Korea, if more than 200,000 people send a request to the Blue house (Korean White House) to intervene in matters judged unfair or unjust, the government must intervene.

    Sixth, those goods and services which are essential for every citizen must be nationalized. For example, social infrastructure such as parks, roads, railways, harbours, supply of electricity should not be privatized. Education including higher education should be made public goods so that low income people should get higher education as do high income group.

    This is the best way to maximize the mass of innovative minds and creative energy to develop the society. Above all, the health service should be nationalized. It is just unbelievable to see that, in a country where the per capita GDP is $63,000, more than 30 million citizens have no medical insurance, just because it is too expensive. Politicians know quite well that big companies related to insurance, pharmaceutical products and medical professions are preventing the nationalization of medical service in the U.S. But, the politicians don't seem to dare go over these vested interests groups and nationalize the public health system. Remember this. There are countries which are much poorer than the U.S. But, they have accessible universal health care insurance system.

    Seventh, the economy should allow the system of multi- generational technologies in which not only high-level technologies but also mid-level technologies should be promoted in such a way that both high- tech large corporations and middle-tech SMEs can grow. This is perhaps only way to insure GDP growth and create jobs.

    Eighth, in the area of international relations, it is about the time to stop wasteful ideological conflict. The difference among ideologies is narrowing; the number of countries which have abandoned the U.S. imposed democracy has been rising; the ideological basis of socialism is weakening. According to the Economist Intelligence Unit, 48% of countries are democratic, while 52% are not. According to Freedom House, in 2005, 83 countries had net gain in democracy, while 52 countries had net loss in democracy.

    But in 2019, only 37 countries had net gain while 64 countries had net loss. Between 2005 and 2018, the number of countries which were not free increased by 26%, while those which were free fell by 44%. On the other hand, it is becoming more and more difficult to find authentic socialism. For example, Chinese regime has lost its pure socialism long time ago. Thus, the world is becoming non-ideological; the world is embracing ideology-neutral pragmatism.

    To conclude, the corona virus pandemic has given us the opportunity to look at ourselves; it has given us the opportunity to realize how vulnerable we are in front of the corona virus attack.

    Many more pandemics will come and challenge us. We need a world better prepared to fight the coming pandemics. It is high time that we slow down our greedy pursuit for GDP growth; it is about the time to stop a wasteful international ideological conflict in support of multibillion dollar interests behind Big Money and the Military industrial complex.

    It is therefore timely to find a system where we care for each other and where we share what we have .

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    Professor Joseph H. Chung is professor of economics and co- director of the Observatoire de l'Asie de l'Est (ODAE) of the Centre d'Études de l'Intégration et la Mondialisation (CEIM), Université du Québec à Montréal (UQAM). He is Research Associate of the Center of Research on Globalization (CRG). Growing Social and Wealth Inequality in America

    [Jul 21, 2020] Prof. Balloux's: SARS-CoV-2 behaves in most ways like a pandemic influenza strain

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    Anonymous , Jul 20 2020 1:50 utc | 55

    Reading Prof. Balloux's thread and I have to say:

    What? "Complications: Any life-threatening infection requires time to fully recover from and can lead to long-term sequelae. This is true for influenza and #COVID19, which have both been linked to a wide spectrum of long-term adverse consequences." The flu has long-term adverse consequences??

    What? What? "Vaccines: Vaccination against influenza began in the 1930s. The efficacy of flu vaccines is generally good." Is he talking about these flu vaccines that are frequently extremely ineffective, and prone to greater adverse reactions than other vaccines? Do they get some other flu vaccine at UCL?

    Wha... "Summary: #SARSCoV2 behaves in most ways like a pandemic influenza strain. The only major epidemiological difference between #COVID19 and flu pandemics is the age risk distribution, with influenza being highly dangerous to young children in addition to the elderly." This UCL that he's part of, is that some UCL that's located elsewhere in the galaxy other than the UCL in London?

    And he works at the Genetics Institute. Just to reassure everyone.

    [Jul 20, 2020] Are asymptomatic cases just false positives or they are a short stage of the disease (and it is unlear if at this stage person cantranmit the virus to others) after which it became regular, symptomatic case ?

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    m , Jul 20 2020 7:09 utc | 83

    Is the high share of 70% asymptomatic cases really confirmed?? The last time I heard something about that isue it whas claimed to be 15-20% with no evidence for high numbers of undiscovered asymtomatic cases. The extensive testing with a low percantege of positives seems to confirm this.

    If the asymptomatic cases were really around 2/3 then this would mean the number of real cases is much higher the the number of officially counted cases, by the factor of 3 roughly.

    [Jul 20, 2020] Ron Paul Exposes Big Holes In The COVID 'Spike' Narrative -

    Jul 20, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

    Ron Paul Exposes Big Holes In The COVID 'Spike' Narrative 07/20/2020

    Authored by Ron Paul via The Ron Paul Institute for Peace & Prosperity,

    Motorcycle accidents ruled Covid deaths? In the rush to paint Florida as the epicenter of the "second wave" of the coronavirus outbreak, government officials and their allies in the mainstream media have stooped to ridiculous depths to maximize the death count. A television station this weekend looked into two highly unusual Covid deaths among victims in their 20s, and when they asked about co-morbidities they were told one victim had none, because his Covid death came in the form of a fatal motorcycle accident.

    Sadly, this is not an isolated incident. In fact the "spike" that has dominated the mainstream for the last couple of weeks is full of examples of such trickery.

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    Washington state last week revised its Covid death numbers downward when it was revealed that anyone who passed away for any reason whatsoever who also had coronavirus was listed as a "Covid-19 death" even if the cause of death had nothing to do with Covid-19.

    In South Carolina, the state health agency admitted that the "spike" in Covid deaths was only the result of delayed reporting of suspected Covid deaths.

    An analysis of reported daily Covid deaths last week compared to actual day-of-death in Houston revealed that the recent "spike" consisted largely of deaths that occurred in April through June. Why delay reporting until now?

    We do know that based on this "spike" the Democrat mayor of Houston cancelled the convention of the Texas Republican Party. Mission accomplished?

    Doesn't it seem suspicious that so many states have experienced "delayed" reporting of deaths until Fauci and his gang of "experts" announced that we are in a new nightmare scenario?

    Last week in Florida – which is perhaps not coincidentally the location of the Republican Party's national convention – another scandal emerged when hundreds of Covid test centers reported 100 percent positive results. Obviously this would paint a far grimmer picture of the resurgence of the virus. Orlando Health, for example, reported a positivity rate of 98 percent – a shocking level – but a further investigation revealed a true positivity rate of only 9.4 percent. Those "anomalies" were repeated throughout the state.

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    "Cases" once meant individuals who displayed sufficient symptoms to be treated in medical facilities. But when the scaremongers needed a "second wave" they began reporting any positive test result as a "Covid case." No wonder we have a "spike."

    Politics demands that politicians be seen doing "something" rather than nothing, even if that something is more harmful than doing nothing at all. That is why Washington is so addicted to sanctions.

    The same has been true especially in Republican-controlled states in the US in response to the coronavirus. Faced with a virus that has killed about one-third as many people as the normal, seasonal flu virus in 2018, Texas Governor Greg Abbott has endorsed a partial shutdown of the economy resulting in millions tossed into the despair of unemployment. Then he arbitrarily shut down bars because massively increased testing showed more people have been exposed to the virus. And he mandated that people wear face masks. Neither shutting down bars (instead of restaurants or Walmarts) nor forcing people to wear masks will have any effect on the progression of the virus through society. But at least he looks like he's doing "something."

    We are facing the greatest assault on our civil liberties in our lifetimes. The virus is real, but the government reaction is political and totalitarian. As it falls apart, will more Americans start fighting for their liberty?

    [Jul 20, 2020] Goering though had a good understanding of the modern western world and the dymanics of COVID-19 epidemics

    High numbers of asymptomatic are a feel good propaganda thing. Most have no symptoms when they first become contagious, but the numbers that never develop symptoms are relatively low.
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    Plenty of genuine people here that have developed their thoughts away from herd mentality. And most are different in some aspects.
    My thought is all free thinkers begin with a baseline or foundation and then expand from there in relation to their experiences. Baseline starting points differ, as does life experiences.
    For me, I guess being able to raise a family and see them able to go out in the world and start their own family is my baseline. This is overlapped with the historical saying - 'a good leader brings peace and prosperity to his people'.

    Goering though had a good understanding of the modern western world ...
    Göring: Why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.

    For most here, democracy is still the sacred cow, but even that is something I no longer worship. Democracy is controlled by whoever controls the media.
    For me, the baseline is family, as in father mother and children, and, a leadership capable of, or who's main interest is bringing peace and prosperity for the people..

    [Jul 20, 2020] Economists' superiority is a sociological construct that economists desire to maintain

    Jul 20, 2020 | crookedtimber.org

    This Paul Krugman column helped crystallize the weirdness of the ongoing economists versus epidemiologists spat, perhaps more accurately described as the 'some economists, especially those with libertarian politics, versus epidemiologists spat.' Different theories, in turn below the fold.

    steven t johnson 07.20.20 at 2:37 pm

    "1) The theory that economists actually are superior Certainly, epidemiologists' workhorse models have had mixed predictive success " The predictive power of the economists' models, or their guidance of government policies that have ended business cycles (for an example) by contrast has had presumably unmixed success? I believe it is misleading to phrase the point this way: The theory is that the laws of economics as expounded in the academy are laws of nature, a description of the anatomy of the final society, the endpoint of human history, if not human evolution. Thus, any unwelcome conclusions from epidemiological models must be rejected.

    "(2) The theory that economists' superiority is a sociological construct that economists desire to maintain." The word "sociological" may be written here, but the discussion seems to indicate that it actually means, psychological trait. In plain terms, it means the vanity of economists. Insofar as it is a sociological construct, it refers to things like the status ascribed to economists by those who employ them, who fund their institutions, who make sure the right kind of economic education is started in elementary schools and beyond, etc. In this view, critiquing the competence of epidemiologists is merely a tactic in servicing the constitutency that desires a different policy.

    The OP has vehemently asserted however such a view of the academy is criminal. And that it is the first priority of all decent people to fight such imitations of thought. The OP is as one with Jason Brennan on this, despite a trifling disagreement over manners or the lack of. Nonetheless I suggest the variation in economists in their distaste for epidemiologists roughly coincides with the variation in what kind of service they're selling and in the constituency they sell too. A Hanson who sells a radical critique of humanity will tack a different tack than another economist.

    "(3) The theory that economists and epidemiologists have different motivations or values both disciplines have likely systematic biases towards one notion of the broader welfare rather than another." This says that the economists are driven solely by disinterested commitments to independently chosen values and that particular interests have no role whatsoever. This says it is not even conceivable some aggressive economists are attacking epidemologists' competence to help sell the pre-determined policy -- predetermined by those who will benefit monetarily by it and who have the power to rule not formally guaranteed (and strenuously denied) to make policy independent from mere elections -- of reopening the economy no matter what.

    "(4) The theory that epidemiology challenges the basic ideological presuppositions of (some) economists The externalities of people's actions during coronavirus are extremely high, and the prospect of decentralized solutions for those externalities extremely low." This is a plea for the golden mean, maybe? The assumption that sophisticated von Hayek should be taken seriously strikes me as doubtful. (And, no, I'm not too sure about Coase either.)

    So it seems to me the problem of why some economists and fellow travelers like Brennan are aggressively impugning the competence of epidemiologists is because it helps promote favored policies of inaction. That is, that it's not much of a problem. The problem is why such transparent nonsense isn't dismissed for what it is. The OP's herculean diplomacy seems to me to deny this is a problem at all.

    [Jul 20, 2020] Media Mask-Mania, Or COVID-19 Groupthink -

    Jul 20, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

    Media Mask-Mania, Or COVID-19 Groupthink by Tyler Durden Sun, 07/19/2020 - 23:30 Twitter Facebook Reddit Email Print

    Authored by Michael Lesher via Off-Guardian.org,

    I never thought I'd see the day when publicly wearing a muzzle would constitute a proof of virtue in the same country whose government, less than twenty years ago, rationalized the bloody invasion of Afghanistan as a way of saving women from veiling their faces .

    But then, I never thought I'd hear American liberals proudly denounce supporters of the US Constitution as a "death cult," nor that I'd actually start to find Donald Trump sounding almost reasonable.

    But at least there's one thing we can all be sure about: "mainstream" news media, busily cheerleading for the death of freedom, will continue to gush with absurdities, self-contradictions and victim-shaming memes in their propaganda war to Keep America Gagged. The Bill of Rights (in case you haven't noticed) is history; today, we demonstrate our patriotism by creeping around hiding our faces. Dissenters need not apply.

    If you think I'm exaggerating, I suspect you haven't been paying attention. Recently I had the poor judgment to turn on National Public Radio for about an hour, under the impression that I was going to learn something about the day's news.

    I could have saved myself the trouble. During the hour in question, I learned nothing at all about the presidential election campaign (now in its final months), nothing about the tens of millions of my fellow citizens whose jobs have been snatched away by government fiat, nothing about climate change, nuclear arms buildups, international refugees or growing worldwide poverty – nothing even about the intensification of air and water pollution authorized by recent federal regulation, although pollution kills an estimated 100,000 Americans every year .

    No – for a solid hour, I heard the following: that COVID19 – in reality, at most, a moderately serious flu virus – is the worst medical threat the United States has ever faced; that this "deadly" virus (the word "deadly" was repeated obsessively, even though the disease is fatal in a tiny percentage of cases) has been empowered by a conspiracy of Republican politicians serving the arch-demon Donald Trump; that recent data showing the rapid decline in deaths attributable to the virus may have been faked, because the numbers aren't what the "experts" want them to be; and that a massive increase in COVID19 tests – primarily among people between 20 and 40 years of age who are subjected to swabbing because their employers demand it, not because they're in any danger – cannot possibly have anything to do with a rise in the number of reported infections, and that anyone who dares to suggest otherwise is "putting lives at risk."

    But the real theme of the hour was masks, masks, masks: how to make them, how to wear them, their different types, who doesn't seem to have enough of them, and why muffling our faces (even though no such thing was ever demanded of us during dozens of past viral outbreaks) is absolutely, positively good for us all.

    I waited in vain for some mention of the fact that every single order requiring the wearing of muzzles in the US is probably unconstitutional , a matter that National Public Radio – which once prided itself on its legal affairs reporting – might have been expected to care about.

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    Nor did anyone mention that just a few months ago, the Center for Disease Control and Prevention was explicitly advising against a general mask-wearing regime , as was Anthony Fauci, the High Priest of COVID19.

    No, facts would only have complicated matters. After all, we already knew what good little boys and girls were expected to do with those muzzles. At the close of each weather forecast, just in case anyone had missed the point, the reporter said cheerily, "And when you go out – put on a mask." "And drink milk with every meal," I half expected him to add, but I guess self-conscious condescension would have spoiled the effect.

    Put on a mask.

    In well over half a century, I cannot remember a weather report that ended with a brisk piece of non-meteorological advice, let alone a patently silly one – after all, if these magical masks were to make any difference, their greatest usefulness would have been at the beginning of the outbreak, not on its heels.

    Yet throughout March, while police-state fever prompted the suspension of democracy in some 40 states and most of the US population was being hustled into virtual house arrest, the pro-incarceration crowd's loudest voices unanimously insisted that masks were of no practical value.

    For anyone who has forgotten, Fauci told 60 Minutes that :

    [t]here's no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you're in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little better and it might even block a droplet, but it's not providing the perfect protection that people think it is. And often there are unintended consequences – people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face."

    That was how things stood when the epidemic was new and all stops were out. And now? Contemplating the lockdown-lovers' belated fetish for surgical gear, one can only imagine the US Navy ceremoniously issuing an air-raid warning at Pearl Harbor a hundred days or so after the Japanese attack had wiped out much of the fleet.

    But you've got to hand it to the mask-maniacs. No matter how many of their excuses for muzzling the population go the way of the Great Auk, they keep the new ones tumbling out so fast you can hardly keep track.

    Here's one peddled on July 14 in the Los Angeles Times : even though the masks won't really prevent infection, they may reduce the amount of the virus you breathe in – that is, just in case you happen to come across an infected person who somehow manages to breathe into your (masked) face from a very short distance and for an extended period. (No one cited in the article bothers to discuss how often such a scenario is likely to occur.) According to a Dr. Monica Gandhi:

    [t]here is this theory that facial masking reduces disease severity."

    In other words, you'll get COVID19 with or without a mask, but the effects will probably be milder if you muffle your face.

    But wait a minute – even if "this theory" is correct (note that it contradicts everything the propagandists have been telling us about masks for the last three months), wasn't it always the case that the overwhelming majority of those who catch COVID19 have very mild symptoms, or no symptoms at all?

    So what's the big advantage of the mask? The article is silent on that point – and Dr. Gandhi herself ultimately admits that her "theory" remains unproven. But that doesn't stop the Times from lambasting a few local California officials who have raised inconvenient questions about mandatory muzzling.

    "This anti-mask rhetoric is mind-blowing, dangerous, deadly and polarizing," the article quotes Dr. Peter Chin-Hong as responding. Why? Because masks prevent infection? No. Because they save lives? No. Criticizing the muzzle mandate is "deadly" because – wait for it – because:

    [t]here is no evidence that [wearing a mask] is dangerous."

    Well, actually, there is such evidence; Anthony Fauci admitted as much to 60 Minutes in March.

    But the main problem with this retort is that it misses the point: people are being forced to mask their faces in public without any evidence that it's dangerous not to.

    Dr. Chin-Hong's implicit confession that this is so knocks the stuffing out of the mandate – and the Times' rationale. But to say so openly is "dangerous, deadly [there's that favorite adjective again] and polarizing." It's no accident that the symbol of submission currently in vogue is one that covers the mouth. The real message of the mask-maniacs is that we have no right to say what we think.

    And speaking of "polarizing," what about the personal viciousness to which mask-mania so frequently descends? I have lost track of the number of videos circulated by so-called news outlets that depict frustrated shoppers losing their cool over being forced to dress like mummies.

    Apparently this is supposed to be cute – as in, "Get a load of that stupid, Trump-supporting bitch having a public meltdown." Myself, I feel sorry for these people; I share their exasperation, and I empathize with them over the invasion of their privacy.

    As for the propagandists who peddle Schadenfreude in support of governors-turned-dictators – I indict them as heartless hypocrites, who claim to value our collective welfare and prove it by publicly humiliating their victims. Would they take similar pleasure, I wonder, in mocking the reaction of a black shopper who'd just been called "nigger"?

    And it gets worse. In the upside-down world of COVID19 media values, even death is no protection from victim-shaming. Recently, American news organizations "reported" the death of an Ohio man who had the misfortune to die on July 4 of what they gleefully called "complications of COVID-19."

    More than two months earlier, the victim had posted a comment on social media saying he wasn't going to "buy a mask." The articles – which even named the deceased (a combat veteran) – practically salivated over the fact that he had had the audacity to go to a swimming pool in mid-June, where he may have contracted the virus. You see? screamed the reporters' moralizing subtext. The maskless, self-indulgent right-wing bastard got what he deserved!

    Just for the record, let me note that there are a number of things we don't know. We don't know whether the poor man actually wore a mask or not. (He wrote in late April that he didn't intend to buy one, but that's really not the same thing.) We don't know how he actually caught the virus. We don't know whether he could have been saved with better treatment; it's even possible he waited too long to seek medical help.

    Given his youth and the apparently lightning pace of his descent into serious illness, his death from COVID19 is so highly unusual that its medical significance amounts to another thing we don't know.

    Most important, we don't know whether wearing or not wearing a mask had anything at all to do with his death. (If he was infected while at a swimming pool, I doubt even the mask-maniacs would insist that he should have worn it in the water.)

    What we do know is that he was targeted for savage personal attacks after he died, first on social media and now in the press.

    "[P]eople have come out of the woodworks, posting nasty, hateful comments about a man they knew nothing about," one of his friends has said. "Most of it crossed the line into harassment. When reported to Facebook, nothing was taken down nor was there ANY action taken," he added, while "[t]hose that defended [him] faced consequences from Facebook in way of bans."

    Well, at least the pattern of the propaganda makes sense, in a way: slander the nonconformist and you can get away with murder; defend him, you're silenced.

    Even the New York Times' resident faux progressive, Michelle Goldberg, has taken up the cry. Another "Trump fan," she sniffed on July 14 , has become a "macabre cliché" by dying of a disease she blames him for contracting.

    I wonder whether Ms. Goldberg would be smirking about a woman who was raped some two months after posting a comment to the effect that "I'll go wherever I want and dress however I like." My guess is that the analogy hasn't occurred to her; she knows her job, and it's about propaganda, not consistency.

    And the propaganda's bottom line is as clear as it is grim. Forget about your personal liberties. Forget about the democracy you thought you were living in. The mask – the symbol of fear, of arbitrary rule, of the abolition of normal social life, of voiceless submission – isn't going away any time soon.

    Nor is the police state that sponsors it.

    "There's going to be no summertime lull with a big wave in the fall," says Eric Toner , one of the boffins of the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, a partner of the neoliberal American Enterprise Institute that has been instrumental in promoting lockdowns from the start.

    It's clear that we are having a significant resurgence of cases in the summer, and they'll get bigger. And it'll keep going until we lock things down again. "

    And how long before the cycle of incarceration really ends? "[S]everal years," Toner says blandly, adding the sinister afterthought that people who resist being muzzled "will get over it. It's just a question of how many people get sick and die before they get over it."

    Makes you feel kind of warm and protected, doesn't it? Thank heaven people like Toner know our needs so much better than we do.

    The media ubiquity of the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security is another ominous feature of the current wave of propaganda.

    Last October, the Center ran a coronavirus pandemic "simulation" in New York City – cosponsored by the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation – for an assembly of powerful people in business and government, after which its members openly speculated about the possible need for "censoring social media content" on the theory that "[m]isinformation and disinformation are likely to be serious threats during a public health emergency."

    These facts obviously bear on the organization's motives and credibility, at the very least. But you won't hear them mentioned when the Center's data are repeated as fact in mainstream media, nor when its members assure us that if we don't wear masks for the next two years we'll all drop dead.

    Is it unreasonable to hope that reporters might want to explore why "health security" is presumed to entail censorship? Or whether the huge investment of the Gates Foundation in vaccine development has any influence on its partner organization's bleak predictions for escaping the coronavirus without a new vaccine? Or whether, having insisted first on devastating lockdowns and now on worthless face masks, the Center will use its political leverage to demand mandatory vaccination when the time comes?

    Professor Lawrence Gostin is another worrisome presence in the media, including Michelle Goldberg's recent sanctimonious outburst in the New York Times – where, pretending to describe the consequences of the virus, she catalogs the devastation of the lockdowns instead:

    [A] record 5.4 million people lost their health insurance between February and May. A generation of American kids will have their educations derailed, and many parents who don't lose their jobs due to the economic crisis will see their careers ruined by the demands of child care

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    The psychological consequences alone will be incalculable. Even before the coronavirus, researchers spoke of loneliness as its own epidemic in America. A March article in the medical journal JAMA Psychiatry attributed 162,000 deaths a year to the fallout of social isolation. Now people are being told that they can socialize only under the most stringent conditions. Much of what makes life sweet is lost to us, not for days or weeks, but months or years.

    As I said, this is a chillingly accurate summary of the consequences of the mass incarceration foisted on us by more than 40 state governors, most of them Democrats, beginning in early March – when each one, with a unilateral declaration of a "health emergency," seized quasi-dictatorial powers, shunted aside the Constitution and bankrupted the citizenry. Those "emergency" powers have not been relinquished to this day.

    But neither Goldberg nor her hero, Professor Gostin, offers a single word of criticism for any of those governors, and certainly not for the Democratic Party leadership that has backed this democracy-destroying, economy-wrecking madness at every step. For them, everything is the exclusive fault of one man: Donald Trump.

    Coming from Goldberg, that might be just another election-year screed against an incumbent the Times dislikes. But what about Gostin? Well, although Goldberg never mentions it, Professor Gostin just happens to be the author of the model version of the Emergency Health Powers Act , the adoption of which in all fifty states (if in somewhat different versions) made possible the coup the governors pulled off by claiming "emergencies" several months ago.

    It's worth remembering that Gostin's proposed bill was sharply criticized by the American Civil Liberties Union back in 2001 as "replete with civil liberties problems" and "a throwback to a time before the legal system recognized basic protections for fairness."

    In fact, some of its specific objections to the EHPA deserve quoting at length, in light of where the Act's reckless application has brought us today:

    1. It fails to include basic checks and balances. The Act would grant extraordinary emergency powers, but that kind of authority should never go unchecked. Public health authorities make mistakes, and politicians abuse their powers The lack of checks and balances could have serious consequences for individuals' freedom, privacy, and equality. The Act lets a governor declare a state of emergency unilaterally and without judicial oversight, fails to provide modern due process procedures for quarantine and other emergency powers and contains no checks on the power to order forced treatment and vaccination.

    2. It goes well beyond bioterrorism. The act includes an overbroad definition of "public health emergency" that clearly do[es] not justify quarantine, forced treatment, or any of the other broad emergency authorities that would be granted under the Act.

    3. It lacks privacy protections. The Act requires the disclosure of massive amounts of personally identifiable health information to public health authorities, without requiring basic privacy protections and fair information practices . That not only threatens to violate individuals' medical privacy but undermines public trust in government activities.

    It's not hard to see why Ms. Goldberg is reluctant to give us the accurate back story for her star witness. The ACLU's list of warnings about the potential abuses of the law Gostin drafted is a near-perfect précis of what has actually happened: unilateral declarations of an "emergency," state by state, where none really existed; the seizure by each governor of almost unlimited power to order quarantines and forced vaccinations; the elimination of "due process" restrictions on mass confinement; the dismantling of privacy protections along with basic rights.

    I don't intend to sing the praises of the ACLU, which – like so many other liberal institutions in the US – has been missing in action since the actual coup began last March. But no one can deny the prescience of its critique. And Goldberg knows her readers aren't stupid: once they are aware of the role Gostin played in orchestrating the overthrow of their freedoms, they're not likely to grant him the pied piper status Goldberg wants him to have.

    Why does she cite Gostin? First, to "prove" – like Eric Toner in another context – that the COVID19 outbreak, the current excuse for the denial of our liberties, will last another two years; amazingly, Goldberg claims this while insisting simultaneously that the same outbreak is practically over in New Zealand, Taiwan and Italy after just a few months.

    But she also needs him to explain, albeit in somewhat indirect language, why democracy isn't good for us.

    According to Gostin, the coronavirus has proved that "health system capacity alone is almost useless unless you have a government that can unleash that capacity promptly and consistently." Obviously, we can't do that if we have to bother with pesky constraints like representative government or the public will. And from Gostin's perspective, we've been dabbling in the utopianism of democracy for too long as it is: "It's going to take several years for us to be able to come out of all of the trauma that we've had," he warns.

    And I think that suggests the real message Goldberg and the other propagandists are keen on peddling. They didn't do this to us. It's not that we've been lied to and illegally confined. It's not that our state executives have defied their oaths of office. It's not that their media mouthpieces have offered us one swindle after another: lockdowns, business closings, job losses, muzzling, scare-mongering, the destruction (as Goldberg herself admits) of "much of what makes life sweet" – theater, cinema, public discussion, time shared with friends.

    The problem is us. We've been clinging to dreams of freedom – and that will cost us. The lockdown-lovers are going to punish us for our wrongheaded attachment to notions of individual rights, and they will punish us still more for continuing recalcitrance. But note this: they can only get away with it by selling us one more lie – namely, that what they're doing to us is really the work of a disease beyond anyone's control.

    "The coronavirus is a natural disaster," Goldberg writes.

    No, it isn't.

    The coronavirus is just another flu. The real disaster has been the work of human beings. Resisting it must be, too.

    [Jul 20, 2020] Some politically incorrect thought about the origin of the virus

    Jul 20, 2020 | thenewkremlinstooge.wordpress.com

    MARK CHAPMAN July 18, 2020 at 9:58 am

    I once thought the whole thing was a Big-Pharma scam to grab a shitload of cash. But Big Pharma – I don't think – would have engineered it to start in China, and it's not made-up;

    [Jul 15, 2020] Fauci has been wrong about everything...- Navarro

    Jul 15, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

    "And when Fauci was telling the White House Coronavirus Task Force that there was only anecdotal evidence in support of hydroxychloroquine to fight the virus, I confronted him with scientific studies providing evidence of safety and efficacy. A recent Detroit hospital study showed a 50% reduction in the mortality rate when the medicine is used in early treatment.

    Now Fauci says a falling mortality rate doesn't matter when it is the single most important statistic to help guide the pace of our economic reopening. The lower the mortality rate, the faster and more we can open." Navarro in USA Today

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    "Laputa's population consists mainly of an educated elite, who are fond of mathematics, astronomy , music and technology, but fail to make practical use of their knowledge. Servants make up the rest of the population.

    The Laputans have mastered magnetic levitation. They also are very fond of astronomy, and discovered two moons of Mars. (This is 151 years earlier than the recognized discovery of the two moons of Mars by Asaph Hall in 1877.) However, they are unable to construct well-designed clothing or buildings, as they despise practical geometry as "vulgar and mechanick". The houses are ill-built, lacking any right angles, [6] and the clothes of Laputans, which are decorated with astrological symbols and musical figures, do not fit, as they take measurements with instruments such as quadrants and a compass rather than with tape measures . [7] They spend their time listening to the music of the spheres. They believe in astrology and worry constantly that the sun will go out." wiki on Gullivers Travels.

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    Ah, I see it now! Dr. Fauci is a Laputan seer! He is devoid of any real comprehension or respect for the ordinary humans trying to deal with actual pandemic problems rather than "the music of the spheres."

    Is he a Democratic Party operative? I doubt it. He is simply "out of it." pl

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/todaysdebate/2020/07/14/anthony-fauci-wrong-with-me-peter-navarro-editorials-debates/5439374002/


    J , 15 July 2020 at 10:46 AM

    The first thing that should popped up like a red flag that Fauci was a few bricks of a shy load upstairs, was his 'luv' for Hillary.


    From 2013:

    https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2020/03/sketchy-fauci-2.jpg

    nbsp; Mike46 , 15 July 2020 at 12:40 PM

    Fauci doesn't matter. Over the weekend the WH tried to strongarm parents to get on board with school reopening. They are fucking with the wrong interest group.

    Mark K Logan , 15 July 2020 at 12:47 PM

    There is a better, albeit a more difficult way to undermine Fauci. Educate the people that this issue has vast economic consequences and we must factor in those consequences when crafting an over-all policy. Fauci, I expect, will openly admit he is approaching the topic from a purely medical perspective...which is exactly what he's supposed to be doing.

    As is, Trump is leaves himself wide open to the obvious counter: Neither he nor his economic adviser have any medical expertise.

    Trump may be trapped in a zero-sum game mindset.

    Terence Gore , 15 July 2020 at 02:07 PM

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/bobby-kennedy-jr-claims-dr-fauci-gates-foundation-will-make-billions-coronavirus-vaccine/

    "Tony Fauci has many, many vaccine patents and there's one vaccine patent that he has that is a way of packaging a coronavirus with some other vaccine in a protein sheet and then delivering it through a vaccine he somehow ended up owning that patent Tony Fauci will be able to cash in . So Fauci's agency will collect half the royalties for that vaccine [related to the coronavirus]."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4-DMKNT7xI

    The founding of moderna on mrna medicine. At end of video talks about analogy of climbing Mt Everest and needed to have 1 big investor

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/14/early-moderna-backer-on-core-investing-lesson-from-big-covid-19-bet.html

    "Sunderland co-founded the VC firm, known for making ambitious investments, after having led program-related investments for the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, which provided financial support to Moderna while she was there. Since 2010, Moderna has been working on developing messenger RNA (mRNA) that allows the body's cells to act like reprogrammed biological factories, producing antibodies needed to battle diseases, including viruses.

    "The nice thing about big bets is that they play out over time. ... We made an investment five years ago in Moderna, and mRNA was a big bet, and you see it playing out in terms of their ability to get a rapid vaccine for Covid. ... You have to take those big bets," Sunderland said."


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8211291/U-S-government-gave-3-7million-grant-Wuhan-lab-experimented-coronavirus-source-bats.html


    https://www.ajmc.com/interviews/fauci-countless-lives-have-been-saved-but-a-vaccine-and-cure-remain-elusive

    Fauci interview

    "The other thing that is amazing in its evolution is the amount that we've learned about HIV pathogenesis, the reservoir, the potential for controlling the virus, either in the absence of antiretroviral [treatment] or in a modified regimen that takes away the need to have a single pill or multiple pills every single day. The thing that remains the holy grail of unaccomplished goals is the development of a highly effective, safe vaccine. And that is something that's not surprising because of the very special situation with HIV, that the body -- as much as we study pathogenesis and understand it so incredibly well -- the body does not make an adequate immune response against HIV, which is the reason why no one has yet spontaneously cleared the virus by their immune system. And so what we need to do, and where we're combination putting a lot of effort into, but also struggling with, is the issue of the development of a vaccine that would be effective enough to be able to be deployed.

    We have one situation that took place, well after that meeting in San Francisco, where a trial of a candidate vaccine -- in a trial named RV 144 that took place in Thailand -- showed a 31% efficacy, which gave us some great hints of correlates of immunity and are the basis for a number of subsequent trials, but still was not good enough to deploy. So we have a number of very large vaccine trials, going on now throughout the world, including a heavy concentration in southern Africa. But we also are pursuing another line of vaccine research, which is the attempt to present to the body, in the proper conformation with sequential immunizations, the capability of making broadly neutralizing antibodies. And if we're successful in that, then I think we have a really good chance of developing a vaccine that would have an efficacy and safety profile good enough to actually deploy it."

    I think over time mrna "vaccines" will change medicine. Are we opening Pandora's box? Possibly.

    [Jul 15, 2020] Errors in Florida virus positivity report- ... actual rate much lower- Wash Examiner

    Jul 15, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

    "errors in Florida virus positivity report: ... actual rate much lower" Wash Examiner

    "The investigation into data from the Florida Department of Health, conducted by Fox 35 News , showed labs reporting a 100% positivity rate in testing, meaning that every single person who was tested was positive for the coronavirus. Several other labs had high positivity rates upward of 80%.

    One hospital, Orlando Health, responded to the investigation and confirmed that the report is inaccurate, saying that its positivity rate was 9.4% and not 98% as the report stated.

    Another hospital, Orlando Veteran's Medical Center, is listed in the report with a positivity rate of 76%, but the hospital says the actual number was 6%." Washington Examiner

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    Evidently there are over 300 facilities in Florida that have been reporting wildly exaggerated positivity rates on COVID-19 testing. This seems to have occurred because of guidance given by the state medical department that was just blindly, madly ignorant as to how to do arithmetic, not calculus - arithmetic. Hey, Florida medical bureaucrats, how about the idea of having a few other people check your work product for accuracy before you issue guidance?

    The Democrats, devoid of conscience when power is at stake, are having a wonderful time using worthless numbers from all over the country in their propaganda. In fact the only numbers that matter are the death and the hospitalization rates. Even these must be looked at carefully to know if deaths are falsely being attributed to COVID-19 and if people are being hospitalized with mild illnesses. pl

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/investigation-shows-errors-in-florida-virus-positivity-report-hospitals-say-actual-rate-much-lower


    nbsp; akaPatience , 15 July 2020 at 11:49 AM

    The elderly account for the majority of COVID-19 deaths. It was reported in USA Today a few months ago that Medicare reimbursement for pneumonia, a major cause of death, is $5,000. IF COVID-19 is claimed as the cause of death, Medicare reimburses $13,000. I wonder how many hospital administrators are opting for more than 2.5X the Medicare reimbursement by stating the official causes of death are the virus, especially when a positive COVID test result apparently isn't required and/or if COVID isn't the primary cause of death?

    BillWade , 15 July 2020 at 11:49 AM

    If these medical math idiots keep this up here in Florida I hope they are ready to cook their own meals 24/7 cause they are wrecking havoc on our restaurants, not to mention the lost incomes these hard working restaurant folks are experiencing.

    At least our county, Charlotte, voted yesterday to no mandatory mask wearing.

    nbsp; Fred , 15 July 2020 at 12:23 PM

    This is woke war, just like with little miss SJW who sabatagued Florida's Covid-19 dashboard. Some folks should go to jail for fraud, but we only fine and jail people for going to the beach now.

    Lesly , 15 July 2020 at 12:26 PM

    I don't think this is a DNC conspiracy. This is a S. Florida thing.

    Medical fraud is crazy high there. Scammers have used the cover of Florida's older demographic to bill state/federal authorities for services/products neither requested nor rendered for years, perhaps decades. My mother received a call from someone to confirm she would be receiving a medical machine in the 90s. Recently my father told me about two friends who waited over two hours to get tested. They got fed up and left, but not before they signed a form with their information. They received a call about a week later informing them they tested positive. Apparently testers are getting a nice government refund for their services.

    I don't think Japan shut down their economy and they have had minimal cases/deaths due to their habit of wearing masks. The Colorado governor is right if you don't have a medical reason to not wear a mask.

    BABAK MAKKINEJAD , 15 July 2020 at 12:50 PM

    From BBC 2018: it was sent to me by another friend and is interesting. Most probably, that epidemic completely passed you by. And yet: There were around 50,100 excess winter deaths in England and Wales in 2017-18 -- the highest since the winter of 1975-76, figures from the Office for National Statistics show.

    Where was the panic then?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-46399090

    nbsp; Fred , 15 July 2020 at 12:55 PM

    Lesly,

    Thank goodness NY,NJ,MI and all the other states are fraud free. The Japanese did not start wearing masks because of corona viruses. Try tuberculous and its history in the islands.

    Eric Newhill , 15 July 2020 at 01:01 PM

    AkaPatience has it right. There are financial incentives to hospitals to include even a presumed diagnosis of CV-19. There are also financial incentives to cities and states to maximize case and death counts. CDC guidelines are wide open for a loose "interpretation" of what constitutes a CV-19 death. Those of us who actually look at the real data with the mission of understanding big insurance bottom lines (vents, ICU, etc. are very expensive encounters) see that a substantial proportion of CV-19 attributed hospitalizations and deaths are actually due to other causes and the CV-19 was either "presumed" or was present, but not the primary cause (e.g heart attack in a person with a history of cardiac issues).

    When we look at the so called "excess deaths" across the country we are not seeing a CV-19 driven phenomenon. Looking at CV-19 in isolated geographies, such as New York City, there was a small effect, but that has stopped. More importantly, when we look at years of life lost, we are not seeing anything of note, even in NYC; meaning that the deceased are people that were expected to be deceased within 12 months CV-19 or no CV-19 - though, admittedly, that picture won't be 100% clear until a retrospective assessment next year.

    BABAK MAKKINEJAD , 15 July 2020 at 01:28 PM

    An iconoclastic take on the pandemic, and the measures taken to contain it

    Some of the statements may be disputed today (this article was published about 4 weeks ago: see below), but many of the points made still stand. The author is scathing about the data and the science, and their misuse. He makes a number of obvious points about the use of [faulty] masks, among other things. Regarding children, I am not sure it is as clear-cut as he presents the facts to be.

    No doubt this will be debated for many years to come, as it takes 10 to 15 years -- perhaps longer -- to get over the economic shock suffered since March 2020!

    Out of curiosity, I have compiled a few figures, below, with countries that did not take drastic lockdown measures (eg: Sweden), and those that did, but a bit late (eg: France), and finally those that took them early on (eg: Vietnam). If you look at Sweden, the ratio with France is about 1 to 6, which mirrors the population figures (10m Swedes Vs 67m French people, and 5,500 dead in Sweden Vs 30,000 dead in France). In other words, the French had a complete lockdown and the Swedes did not, but the figures are comparable: on that basis, the Swedes were right and the French were wrong. But if you look at Vietnam -- an extreme case (of success) -- you have close to 100m people and zero deaths.

    My conclusion would be that draconian measures early on work, but they may not be a complete and general lockdown of the entire population (as done in the UK for 4 months or so); it may be the quarantine of sick people (or suspected cases) with systematic contact tracing. But what is for sure is that a complete lockdown introduced too late (eg: UK and to a lesser extent France, Italy and Spain) is of little benefit.

    The UK, thus, had the worst outcome: a complete lockdown that was introduced 10 to 20 days too late at least, and a huge shock to the economy, with 50,000 dead, which is a sad record in Europe.

    Germany is a mixed model up to a point, and has done far better than France or the UK, maybe because measures were taken earlier, and also the health-care system is better resourced and more resilient (c.9,000 dead out of >80 m people).

    ___________________________


    Sweden
    Coronavirus Cases:
    75,826
    Deaths:
    5,536
    Population 10.25 m

    Israel
    Coronavirus Cases:
    41,235
    Deaths:
    368
    Recovered:
    19,474
    Pop.: 8.9 m

    Germany
    Coronavirus Cases:
    200,436
    Deaths:
    9,139
    Recovered:
    185,100
    Pop.: 83 m

    France
    Coronavirus Cases:
    172,377
    Deaths:
    30,029
    Recovered:
    78,59
    Pop.: 67 m

    Vietnam
    >95 m population
    372 confirmed cases
    No deaths (zero)

    NZ
    Confirmed cases 1,545
    Recovered
    1,498
    Deaths
    22
    Population: 4.9 m

    South Korea
    Population: 62 m
    Coronavirus Cases:
    13,512
    Deaths:
    289
    Recovered:
    12,282
    _____________

    https://thewallwillfall.org/2020/06/05/lockdown-lunacy-the-thinking-persons-guide/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

    nbsp; turcopolier , 15 July 2020 at 02:07 PM

    Babak

    You assume that all these countries are not lying about the numbers. Do you have some way to prove that they are not?

    BABAK MAKKINEJAD , 15 July 2020 at 02:11 PM

    Col. Lang:

    I cannot prove a negative.

    I am more trusting of the numbers of New Zealand and Sweden and Michigan.

    nbsp; turcopolier , 15 July 2020 at 02:13 PM

    Babak

    It is an issue whether or not you can prove a negative. Why Michigan?

    BABAK MAKKINEJAD , 15 July 2020 at 02:18 PM

    The numbers from Michigan, Sweden, and France are internally consistent among one another - the ratios are close.

    BABAK MAKKINEJAD , 15 July 2020 at 02:37 PM

    There was a report of COVID-19 in Barcelona back in March of 2019.

    This would mean the number of infected people is far, far higher, hence the relative death rate must be far, far lower.

    Furthermore, we could be encountering different variants of the virus at different time periods and places.

    It could be that the variant in Vietnam was different than the one in Wuhan or in Italy.

    Furthermore, different races could have, collectively, different responses to the same pathogen; measles is not as deadly among Near Eastern children as among the Nordic children - for example.

    Eric Newhill , 15 July 2020 at 02:43 PM

    Lesly,
    You are absolutely correct. Florida is a fraud outlier. There was so much fraud on ACA insurance that at least one major insurance company will no longer offer ACA products in some of the more populous zip codes. A lot of the fraud was involving narcotics prescriptions and drug rehab centers (massive), but there was a wide variety of other forms of fraud as well. I hear the same from the Medicare Advantage teams.

    [Jul 14, 2020] C has it correct. Everything besides death rates is meaningless. Unfortunately, the deaths need to be genuine Covid deaths not just any death.

    Jul 14, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

    Bull Gator , Jul 14 2020 5:11 utc | 73

    I am a Biomedical Scientist with expertise in this area. Made antibodies and PCR tests for a living for 35 years, I did other stuff to but I did make some World Class Antibodies and other discoveries. My gut feeling is that all of these tests are tremendously flawed and not reliable in any way to make any kind of decision for either the patient or society. It is almost impossible to create a truly specific test and and it would take a considerable amount of time and effort to get one that could be performed on large numbers of samples. At least a year or more even with a Herculean effort. So the bottom line is it is all Bull Shit at best. Garbage in Garbage out is what you have. Would you base anything in your life on information that you know is inaccurate? You would have to be intoxicated, greedy or needing sex badly to go to that place. The Scum of humanity has pushed a large number of people to that state. I think the outcome is going to be very unpleasant for many.

    [Jul 10, 2020] Losing around forty thousand men killed and wounded in a single day, many of whom would succumb to their wounds or freeze to death shortly was not uncommon during WWI or WWII.

    Jul 10, 2020 | crookedtimber.org

    likbez 07.10.20 at 9:08 pm

    Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    Losing around forty thousand men killed and wounded in a single day, many of whom would succumb to their wounds or freeze to death shortly was not uncommon during WWI or WWII.

    They tried to defend their country, the economy, etc.

    There too many despicable cowards now. Especially among jingoistic US politicians.

    Operation Bagration - Wikipedia

    Between 22 June and 4 July 1944, Army Group Centre lost 25 divisions and 300,000 men

    Russian probably lost twice as much.

    [Jun 26, 2020] Dr. Karl Friston, made waves when he published his study mapping the real susceptibility of contracting Coronavirus. His suggests that 80% are not susceptible and challenge the rationale for a lockdown

    Jun 26, 2020 | www.unz.com

    Agent76 , says: Show Comment June 23, 2020 at 2:27 pm GMT

    Jun 22, 2020 CELEBRATED SCIENTIST: '80% NOT SUSCEPTIBLE TO COVID"

    Named the "most influential" brain scientist of our time, Dr. Karl Friston, made waves when he published his study mapping the real susceptibility of contracting Coronavirus. His results are staggering and challenge the rationale for a lockdown like no other.

    https://www.youtube.com/embed/3jKGD7XnbRc?feature=oembed

    Jun 15, 2020 The Collapse of the COVID-1984 Narrative

    Now that the major institutions pushing the COVID panic are now admitting that the virus is not an existential threat and the lockdowns were not necessary, what does this mean for the future of the COVID-1984 police state and the ushering in of the new "biosecurity" paradigm?

    https://www.youtube.com/embed/M3OOBXwtojo?feature=oembed

    [Jun 25, 2020] A summary on COVID-19 from Deap

    Notable quotes:
    "... Several nurses, e.g. in New York City, described an oftentimes fatal medical mismanagement of Covid patients due to questionable financial incentives or inappropriate medical protocols. ..."
    Jun 22, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com
    22 June 2020 A summary on COVID-19 from "Deap"

    "From an alleged media research and review organization: Trust, but verify. COVID-19 - what we now know today Overview According to the latest immunological and serological studies, the overall lethality of Covid-19 (IFR) is about 0.1% and thus in the range of a strong seasonal influenza (flu). In countries like the US, the UK, and also Sweden (without a lockdown), overall mortality since the beginning of the year is in the range of a strong influenza season; in countries like Germany, Austria and Switzerland, overall mortality is in the range of a mild influenza season. Even in global "hotspots", the risk of death for the general population of school and working age is typically in the range of a daily car ride to work. The risk was initially overestimated because many people with only mild or no symptoms were not taken into account. Up to 80% of all test-positive persons remain symptom-free.

    Even among 70-79 year olds, about 60% remain symptom-free. Over 95% of all persons develop at most moderate symptoms. Up to 60% of all persons may already have a certain cellular background immunity to Covid19 due to contact with previous coronaviruses (i.e. common cold viruses).

    The median or average age of the deceased in most countries (including Italy) is over 80 years and only about 4% of the deceased had no serious preconditions. The age and risk profile of deaths thus essentially corresponds to normal mortality. In many countries, up to two thirds of all extra deaths occurred in nursing homes, which do not benefit from a general lockdown. Moreover, in many cases it is not clear whether these people really died from Covid19 or from weeks of extreme stress and isolation. Up to 30% of all additional deaths may have been caused not by Covid19, but by the effects of the lockdown, panic and fear. For example, the treatment of heart attacks and strokes decreased by up to 60% because many patients no longer dared to go to hospital. Even in so-called "Covid19 deaths" it is often not clear whether they died from or with coronavirus (i.e. from underlying diseases) or if they were counted as "presumed cases" and not tested at all. However, official figures usually do not reflect this distinction. Many media reports of young and healthy people dying from Covid19 turned out to be false: many of these young people either did not die from Covid19, they had already been seriously ill (e.g. from undiagnosed leukaemia), or they were in fact 109 instead of 9 years old. T

    he claimed increase in Kawasaki disease in children also turned out to be false. Strong increases in regional mortality can occur if there is a collapse in the care of the elderly and sick as a result of infection or panic, or if there are additional risk factors such as severe air pollution. Questionable regulations for dealing with the deceased sometimes led to additional bottlenecks in funeral or cremation services. In countries such as Italy and Spain, and to some extent the UK and the US, hospital overloads due to strong flu waves are not unusual.

    Moreover, this year up to 15% of health care workers were put into quarantine, even if they developed no symptoms. The often shown exponential curves of "corona cases" are misleading, as the number of tests also increased exponentially. In most countries, the ratio of positive tests to tests overall (i.e. the positive rate) remained constant at 5% to 25% or increased only slightly. In many countries, the peak of the spread was already reached well before the lockdown.

    Countries without curfews and contact bans, such as Japan, South Korea, Belarus or Sweden, have not experienced a more negative course of events than other countries. Sweden was even praised by the WHO and now benefits from higher immunity compared to lockdown countries.

    The fear of a shortage of ventilators was unjustified. According to lung specialists, the invasive ventilation (intubation) of Covid19 patients, which is partly done out of fear of spreading the virus, is in fact often counterproductive and damaging to the lungs.

    Contrary to original assumptions, various studies have shown that there is no evidence of the virus spreading through aerosols (i.e. tiny particles floating in the air) or through smear infections (e.g. on door handles or smartphones). The main modes of transmission are direct contact and droplets produced when coughing or sneezing.

    There is also no scientific evidence for the effectiveness of face masks in healthy or asymptomatic individuals. On the contrary, experts warn that such masks interfere with normal breathing and may become "germ carriers". Leading doctors called them a "media hype" and "ridiculous". Many clinics in Europe and the US remained strongly underutilized or almost empty during the Covid19 peak and in some cases had to send staff home.

    Millions of surgeries and therapies were cancelled, including many cancer screenings and organ transplants. Several media were caught trying to dramatize the situation in hospitals, sometimes even with manipulative images and videos. In general, the unprofessional reporting of many media maximized fear and panic in the population. The virus test kits used internationally are prone to errors and can produce false positive and false negative results. Moreover, the official virus test was not clinically validated due to time pressure and may sometimes react positive to other coronaviruses.

    Numerous internationally renowned experts in the fields of virology, immunology and epidemiology consider the measures taken to be counterproductive and recommend rapid natural immunisation of the general population and protection of risk groups. At no time was there a medical reason for the closure of schools, as the risk of disease and transmission in children is extremely low.

    There is also no medical reason for small classes, masks or 'social distancing' rules in schools. The claim that only (severe) Covid-19 but not influenza may cause venous thrombosis and pulmonary (lung) embolism is not true, as it has been known for 50 years that severe influenza greatly increases the risk of thrombosis and embolism, too. Several medical experts described express coronavirus vaccines as unnecessary or even dangerous. Indeed, the vaccine against the so-called swine flu of 2009, for example, led to sometimes severe neurological damage and lawsuits in the millions. In the testing of new coronavirus vaccines, too, serious complications and failures have already occurred.

    A global influenza or corona pandemic can indeed extend over several seasons, but many studies of a "second wave" are based on very unrealistic assumptions, such as a constant risk of illness and death across all age groups. Several nurses, e.g. in New York City, described an oftentimes fatal medical mismanagement of Covid patients due to questionable financial incentives or inappropriate medical protocols.

    The number of people suffering from unemployment, depressions and domestic violence as a result of the measures has reached historic record values. Several experts predict that the measures will claim far more lives than the virus itself. According to the UN 1.6 billion people around the world are at immediate risk of losing their livelihood.

    NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden warned that the "corona crisis" will be used for the permanent expansion of global surveillance. Renowned virologist Pablo Goldschmidt spoke of a "global media terror" and "totalitarian measures".

    Leading British virologist Professor John Oxford spoke of a "media epidemic". More than 600 scientists have warned of an "unprecedented surveillance of society" through problematic apps for "contact tracing". In some countries, such "contact tracing" is already carried out directly by the secret service. In several parts of the world, the population is already being monitored by drones and facing serious police overreach. A 2019 WHO study on public health measures against pandemic influenza found that from a medical perspective, "contact tracing" is "not recommended in any circumstances". Nevertheless, contact tracing apps have already become partially mandatory in several countries." Deap


    turcopolier , 22 June 2020 at 03:54 PM

    Deap

    "an alleged media research and review organization" Who? I have been doing fatality % for Virginia and Alexandria on a daily basis, the number is consistently .02% on a developing cumulative basis. Hey, folks, suck it up! Move on!

    jerseycityjoan , 22 June 2020 at 04:57 PM
    If this is "alleged" then why should I trust it? Anybody can write anything on the Internet and make it sound official.

    This item sounds suspect, for example:

    "Several medical experts described express coronavirus vaccines as unnecessary or even dangerous. Indeed, the vaccine against the so-called swine flu of 2009, for example, led to sometimes severe neurological damage and lawsuits in the millions. In the testing of new coronavirus vaccines, too, serious complications and failures have already occurred."

    I thought we were eagerly awaiting a good vaccine. Just because developing and using a vaccine is not without risk and disappointment is no reason to jump to the conclusion that we should stop attempting to get an effective vaccine. If the swine flu vaccine of 2009 had been that prolematic the damage suits would have amounted in the multi-billions, not the millions.

    walrus , 22 June 2020 at 05:36 PM
    Deap,

    Professor John Oxford, whom you quote about a "media epidemic" certainly doesn't agree with your position.

    https://pandemic.internationalsos.com/2019-ncov/executive-summary

    As for your post, it completely misses the main point, even if you are correct about the mildness of the infection; that is the logistical consequences of millions of sick people : (a) not turning up for work, and (b) swamping and breaking the medical infrastructure.

    You need to understand that we have only 8.5 million cases and 400,000 deaths according to WHO. World population is over 5 billion. You fail to understand the potential scale of this thing.

    To put it another way; we are dealing with a small grassfire at present. The forest is as yet unbutton and unprotected.

    Terence Gore , 22 June 2020 at 05:45 PM
    https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

    contains links to the claims

    voislav , 22 June 2020 at 07:05 PM
    There is a lot wrong with this article. A lot of vague, unsupported, and false statements, no links or anything. "Experts", "Leading doctors", etc., again, who are the people saying these things and what are their credentials? I won't go into all of it since that would be too long, but I'll address one thing.

    Regarding mortality rate, the statement "latest immunological and serological studies, the overall lethality of Covid-19 (IFR) is about 0.1%" is utter nonsense. Immunological and serological studies are not used to determine lethality, they look at antibody formation and corresponding viral load.

    0.1% number is just made up, current US death rate is 0.035% vs. overall population (so 120,000 deaths over 340 million people), Europe is slightly higher at 0.045%. For comparison, typical flu season is much less severe, it's 0.01% vs. overall population, bad flu season is 0.02%. So, this is already twice as bad as the worst flu seasons, and it still has ways to go.

    And yes, there is a discussion to be had on how deaths are attributed (COVID-caused vs. COVID-incidental), but that cuts both ways. Many people likely died before they were tested, especially amongst the older population.

    Upstater , 22 June 2020 at 07:33 PM
    There is considerable information presented, much of which I have not seen before. Key statements should have footnotes directing us to source material. Without references this is mostly hearsay.
    walrus , 22 June 2020 at 08:23 PM
    The content of this article is a cut and paste from a disreputable "swiss policy research institute" that has no credentials. While the original article has links, they lead to more hearsay.
    Randy , 22 June 2020 at 08:27 PM
    Article is a total load of crap, unfounded statements. I read some good stuff on SST but also some garbage which this article is, pure garbage.
    Jim , 22 June 2020 at 09:24 PM

    What is different now: cause of death as COVID-19 are affixed to death certificates when there is no actual medical confirmation.

    The CDC sent out a letter to the "medical community" months ago, to record deaths with COVID-19 when it might be, or could be, or someone feels it was, etc., along with when it is actually verified as the primary cause, and of course when it was present but not necessarily a cause of the cause of death.

    It will take a while to sort this out, if it ever is sorted out. Until then, death rates are inaccurate for this disease, period.

    The CDC's action/recommendation was and is very controversial, yet media hyenas rarely discuss it as their agenda is what it is.

    -30-

    J , 22 June 2020 at 10:30 PM
    Deap,

    ALL phones (android and apple) have contact tracing software embedded in the phone's core software tied to the bluetooth.

    drb , 22 June 2020 at 10:42 PM
    For those wo are interested, the IFR (the mortality rate for those who have antibodies) has been measured or calculated in 60+ papers. They are listed here below with links to the original papers

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zC3kW1sMu0sjnT_vP1sh4zL0tF6fIHbA6fcG5RQdqSc/edit#gid=0

    a mortality of 0.3% is a very strong flu, like 1957 or 1968. However, we will never know the "true" mortality since so many states forced nursing homes to take in covid patients, creating artificially high mortality compared to other years.

    Also please see Ref. 25 in the following link, a letter sent to Merkel by two german doctors. No one with good vitamin D dies.

    https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/06/08/cnn-coronavirus-vitamin-d.aspx

    doug , 22 June 2020 at 11:06 PM
    Deap,
    Ioannidis, who has long been the most skeptical of Covid-19's seriousness, just published an analysis of IFR from a large number of countries.

    However, it's already killed .16% of all the residents of New York State. So the IFR there is at least .16% and that would require all of NY had been infected. Serologic studies show less than 20% have been infected. Most in the City with much fewer in outlying areas.

    IFR varies considerably between countries and regions. For instance it's lower in Calif (0.2% ish). than New York (> .6% ish). Ioannidis lists the median (not mean which is higher) IFR as .26%.

    This is indeed evidence that something, aside from the well known age and co-morbidities, strongly affects the lethality of Covid-19. It may be vitamin D deficiency, or partial cross-immunity from corona virus that cause a portion of common colds. And that likely means places like NY have higher IFRs than most other places.

    On the other hand lots of places like Fla. are opening up. Young people are crowding the bars and the positive test numbers are spiking to record levels. Since they are young they are very unlikely to die or even get seriously ill. And deaths are not increasing. At least for now. And I don't expect deaths in Fla. to be anywhere near NY.

    Yeah, Right , 23 June 2020 at 12:21 AM
    And yet.. and yet.. and yet..

    I keep having this nagging thought at the back of my mind, and it is elegent in its simplicity: those nations which insisted in taking this seriously from the very beginning have done very well, with few deaths, and are now resuming "normal services" while keeping the rest of the world at arms length.

    While those countries that essentially shrugged their shoulders and took half-measures are still struggling with no end in sight.

    How odd, hey?

    Yet I read this article and it reads for all the world like Deap has concluded that the latter group erred by being too harsh, not in being too slack.

    I live in a country with roughly 1/10th of the USA's population, and it has had less than 1/100th the number of deaths. And it is coming out of lockdown with nary an uptick in new infections.

    There would be very, very few people here who would conclude that Deap has the faintest idea what he is talking about.

    Mike46 , 23 June 2020 at 12:28 AM
    "The Case Fatality Rate (CFR) is the ratio between confirmed deaths and confirmed cases.
    During an outbreak of a pandemic the CFR is a poor measure of the mortality risk of the disease. We explain this in detail at OurWorldInData.org/Coronavirus." *

    Link to Chart: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/coronavirus-cfr?country=ITA~KOR~OWID_WRL~DEU~ISL~USA

    CFR for the US on June 22nd was 5.26%. The global CFR on June 22nd was 5.25%

    *Case fatality rate of COVID-19 (%) (Only observations with ≥100 cases)
    Variable time span Jan 19, 2020 – Jun 22, 2020
    Data published by European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC)
    Link https://github.com/owid/covid-19-data/tree/master/public/data

    Raw data on confirmed cases and deaths for all countries is sourced from the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC).

    Our complete COVID-19 dataset is a collection of the COVID-19 data maintained by Our World in Data. It is updated daily and includes data on confirmed cases, deaths, and testing.

    We have created a new description of all our data sources. You find it at our GitHub repository here. There you can download all of our data.


    Rod

    Terence Gore , 23 June 2020 at 01:02 AM
    https://swprs.org/studies-on-covid-19-lethality/

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.29.20083485v1

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.03.20089854v3

    https://pressroom.usc.edu/preliminary-results-of-usc-la-county-covid-19-study-released/

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.04.20090076v2

    just following random links

    https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(20)30610-3

    https://ltccovid.org/2020/04/12/mortality-associated-with-covid-19-outbreaks-in-care-homes-early-international-evidence/

    Some of the information seems to be well sourced to me. Whether or not I can make heads or tails of it is a different story

    Deap , 23 June 2020 at 01:08 AM
    The Mercury News: NB: non-peer reviewed study at time of publication

    ".....The risk study by Dr. Rajiv Bhatia, clinical assistant professor of primary care and population health at Stanford, and Dr. Jeffrey Klauser, adjunct professor of epidemiology at UCLA, looked at publicly available case incidence data for the week ending May 30 in the 100 largest U.S. counties as states began to reopen.

    "The thing we are looking for is to start a discussion of risk," Bhatia said. "We're bombarded with data on death and cases."

    The study found a person in a typical medium to large U.S. county who has a single random contact with another person has, on average, a 1 in 3,836 chance of being infected without social distancing, hand-washing or mask-wearing.

    If that sounds like a tolerable risk, consider the odds of being hospitalized. The study found a 50-to-64-year-old person who has a single random contact has, on average, a 1 in 852,000 chance of being hospitalized or a 1 in 19.1 million chance of dying based on rates as of the last week of May.


    "We were surprised how low the relative risk was," Klausner said....."

    Mike46 , 23 June 2020 at 01:12 AM
    There is an old saying I heard many years ago - I think it was from Bob Frodle, my first boss. Don't recall the actual context of the conversation. Here it is: "Figures don't lie but liars can figure". It is even more relevant today.

    I was curious about the origin of this quotation. It's been around since at least 1854. I particularly enjoyed this one from a little later in an 1888 article on free trade from a Sacramento newspaper:

    "It was a highly protective measure. The cry of free trade was a false one, and was maliciously put forth by "the uncrowned king" and other Republican leaders. Figures would not lie, but liars will figure, and were doing so in this campaign. She said that not a mill would shut down or a hammer stop from the passage of the Mills bill. Too much money was being made by them."

    The Mills bill never became law, BTW.

    Mike46 , 23 June 2020 at 02:16 AM
    drb:

    Mercola has been called a charlatan.

    Wikipedia (I know it's easily manipulated) but you can verify this for yourself:

    "Mercola's medical claims have been criticized by the medical, scientific, regulatory and business communities. A 2006 BusinessWeek editorial stated his marketing practices relied on "slick promotion, clever use of information, and scare tactics."[4] In 2005, 2006, and 2011, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration warned Mercola and his company that they were making illegal claims of their products' ability to detect, prevent, and treat disease.[8] The medical watchdog site Quackwatch has criticized Mercola for making "unsubstantiated claims [that] clash with those of leading medical and public health organizations and many unsubstantiated recommendations for dietary supplements."[9] Of Mercola's marketing techniques, oncology surgeon David Gorski says it "mixes the boring, sensible health advice with pseudoscientific advice in such a way that it's hard for someone without a medical background to figure out which is which."[10]

    Sorry.

    DC , 23 June 2020 at 02:17 AM
    The article appears to be designed to get things back to normal so the stock market doesn't crash and portfolios of debt assets don't need to be written down from coming defaults.

    I think it should be considered that we won't get the economy back unless people feel safe.

    For anyone who says it's not real and you don't need to wear a mask, I say; "you go first, I'll hold your beer"!

    Eric Newhill , 23 June 2020 at 07:10 AM
    Dear,
    I agree with a lot of what the article says.

    Regarding the increases in new cases in some states;
    1. Primarily due to more testing. Most of the new cases are asymptomatic and are in people under 40 years old. Very little threat.
    2. The increase in hospitalizations in some states is a small number and is due to people who are in the hospital for elective surgeries (big backlog after three months of no elective surgeries permitted) and for labor and delivery. They are tested now upon being admitted. Yes, they are in the hospital and, yes, they tested positive, but they are in the hospital for reasons unrelated to C-19 and are asymptomatic.

    The people pushing this latter statistic as evidence of a "second wave" are real scum. IMO, they want to have the people too scared to go to the ballots so there can be vote tampering with mail-in ballots. I have no evidence for this particular claim. It's just my sense. Points 1 and 2 are from data.

    Eric Newhill , 23 June 2020 at 07:11 AM
    "Dear" should = "DEAP".

    I always forget that this computer has a hyperactive autocorrect

    mcohen , 23 June 2020 at 07:13 AM
    I dunno man.i dunno.this whole thing is off.what if a second new virus,not covid 19,but uses covid 19 antibodies as a pathway to do serious damage.a 1-2 knockout blow
    Weigh that up against over population.Yes,I do believe we are all living it right now.It has been spoken about and now 2020 it has started.
    Just imagine.Todays teens living in a future world where all the whales are dead.Just bones left in a museum.Too many people.
    The Chinese and Indians went hand to hand.That will become future combat.MAD is bad.unsustainable.Bring all the troops home,scrap the weapons.Change the rules of engagement.knives and hand to hand combat only
    English Outsider , 23 June 2020 at 07:48 AM
    Deap - I also am disappointed in the way the pandemic's been handled by most Western countries. Walrus tells us that by late last year virologists knew something nasty was brewing. Yet as late as mid-February of this year the responsible authority in Europe was assuring us that there was "low risk" to the general population. I assume the Health Authorities were asleep at the wheel in the US as well, because apart from Trump's limited ban on China travel - and that decision, I believe, taken in defiance of the then general consensus - the US also seems to have been late responding.

    The stats tell us little when it comes to national comparisons. Sweden's sometimes compared to other Scandinavian countries with lower death rates and this is instanced as showing failure of the Swedish approach. But this ignores the fact that Swedish care homes are larger than in the neighbouring countries and poorly run, so they were due for higher death rates in any case.

    In the UK there seems to be a policy of reporting cause of death as Covid when, say, that patient was due to die of an unrelated comorbidity. I think this is correct reporting because if I were due to die of cancer in a couple of years it'd still be Covid that killed me today, but it means that countries that don't report deaths in the same way seem to be doing better when they're not.

    Also in the UK we worsened the death rate by sending infected patients back to care homes. So UK comparisons don't help much in that respect either when it comes to looking at what the best policy is.

    For what they're worth the stats so far show the US not doing too badly when it comes to deaths per million. You ought to be doing a lot worse, given the high level of international travel and given that the conditions in the inner cities are ideal conditions for transmission. Perhaps, therefore, there's worse to come. My uninformed guess is that there probably is. In any case the US national stats tell us very little when it comes to making comparisons between this or that national policy. One cannot lump an entire continent together like that.

    But the stats are going to be argued about for ever. Away from all that there are two aspects I think are not sufficiently considered.

    1. I don't accept the "let it rip because they're due to die anyway" approach. That goes against normal principles of public health, particularly so in this case because we still know little about the virus.

    2. I don't think we've got our heads around the economic effects if no vaccine or effective treatment turns up.

    Whatever governments do the vulnerable are going to isolate anyway. I met a young woman recently who has a condition that means if she gets Covid she dies, no question. Of course she's going to take what precautions she can, and does.

    Millions of the vulnerable are in the same boat. The UK Prime Minister is in his fifties and nearly died of Covid. You can be quite sure that there are now plenty of the economically active of that age and older who saw that and who will now tend to keep away from gatherings where they might catch the disease too. The resultant changes in our patterns of consumption and our patterns of work will be profoundly disruptive to the already tottering economies of many Western countries.

    For those two reasons I believe there's a strong argument for going all out to eradicate the disease or to severely limit its spread. I think your view is that the crude national or State-wide lockdowns aren't the best way to tackle the problem and that I agree with wholeheartedly. But we should still be looking to be doing much more than we are to tackle it and, if possible, to prevent the disease entirely

    Poul , 23 June 2020 at 08:29 AM
    A feature of Sweden is that the politicians have very little to say in how a pandemic is handled.

    According to Swedish constitutional tradition since ca 1632 political leaders cannot interfere with the decisions of government agencies.

    So no matter what urges/fears a Swedish politician may have (in order to curry favour with the voters). It's a technocratic decision by experts on how the situation is to be handled.

    Such a practice could very well lead to better decisions than what we have seen in many other European countries.

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